@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:"A competent observer's assessment of
Defkalion" - Revisited
2012/1/4 Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint :
> Mary Yugo stated, for the millionth time,
>
> “A much better theory is that, as Rossi says, they have nothing to show.”
>
>
01:35 PM, Mary Yugo wrote:
2012/1/4 Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Mary Yugo stated, for the millionth time,
“A much better theory is that, as Rossi says, they have nothing to show.”
Same old tired repetition, despite numerous requests that you avoid it. You
just never learn…
Is there really a brain
the Nickel
Nanoattenas paper seem to be in much the same area as the ideas in the Cold
Fusion chapter.
Nigel Dyer
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From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
More evidence that we are dealing with oscillations and need to look at
whether there are any harmonic relationships within the H-lo
Akira,
Thanks again for keeping the Collective informed with new info!!
Best Wishes in 2012!
-Mark
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From: Akira Shirakawa [mailto:shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 4:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Celani to announce a possible marke
Hi Jones!
You've been a bit too scarce the last 6 months... but I have a feeling it's
for a good reason! ;-)
I remember that discussion, and in it you wrote:
>"If Rossi knows this, he is pulling a clever deception. If not, if means
that
>what everyone already suspects is true: the guy just got ext
The clues are coming out on a weekly basis. this today on PhysOrg.com:
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-atomic-core-shaken.html
"When struck just right, protons and neutrons ring. The sub-atomic particles
don't jingle like when a hammer hits a bell. But they do jiggle in an odd
dance wh
Jones:
Pages 1 and 2 (Project Summary) are missing from that PDF...
-Mark
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:46 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Hank Mills Weighs in on Defkalion?
Apparently -
And it would become unbearably humid inside, so why hassle with it?
From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 1:05 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jed Ro
I'll be first in line when it opens.
Supersoldier ants created in the lab by reactivating ancestral genes
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-supersoldier-ants-lab-reactivating-ances
tral.html
It isn't too far a stretch to go the next step.
-Mark
She's an insignificant troll. nothing more.
-m
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 7:27 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Simple, even simple-minded tests can be a great help in
understanding these things
Mary Yugo wrote:
Hold o
Scrambled Rocha-eggs for breakfast!
Yummy!
-Mark
From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 6:04 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Welcome to Jurassic Park...
I cannot wait for some old genes of mine be reactivated so that I will lay
my o
[mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 11:00 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Simple, even simple-minded tests can be a great help in
understanding these things
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
wrote:
Shes an insignificant troll
nothing more
Vorl,
RE: frenzied chicken counting...
I suggest you go back in the Vortex-l archive to ~Feb 2011, and start
reading. This is long *before* MY showed up, and you will find plenty of
skepticism from the usual contributors here, including myself. There were
postings about Petroldragon, the non-perf
That was hilarious Alan, and oh so descriptive of what we do here.. or most of
us try to do here! Excellent and amusing analogy...
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Alan Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:43 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sim
Jones:
Thanks for your diplomatic comments on my late night posting... I will
reread and think about them.
Trying to up the SNR a notch or two...
RE: Cooper pairs...
This is one of my pet peeves about the old, simplistic atomic models. We
were taught the following in school/college:
- opposite c
ndependent of how they've been raised.
All the best,
Eric
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eric.wal...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
wrote:
That was hilarious Alan, and oh so descriptive of what we do here.. or most of
us try to do here! Excellent and amus
great help in
understanding these things
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the welcome. Replies inline.
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
wrote:
Welcome Eric,
Thx for the feedback… this seems to be your first post. A few questions if I
may…
1) How long have you been
How much Ni is used in a AA size NiCad battery In the battery recycling
Wikipedia page, it has a table which shows that a NiCad is 22% Ni, and NiMH
is 35% (I assume by mass?). What's an AA weigh, a few tens of grams? 100g?
-m
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Satur
Global Ni use/production was discussed many months ago here, but I think
it's a little over a million pounds/year.. no, I think it was a million+
tons/year! Someone also calc'd that it would take about 25% of that to
supply domestic e-cats globally... obviously a LOT of wiggle-room on those
number
Numbness/tingling in the fingers and toes could also be a sign of peripheral
neuropathy, often caused by diabetes.
Other signs of diabetes include excessive thirst and frequent urination
(probably from drinking so much water).
-Mark
From: David Jonsson [mailto:davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com]
S
-Mark
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 3:20 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Defkalion posts useful information about nickel
Global Ni use/production was discussed many months ago here, but I think
it's a little
A little off topic, but perhaps interesting for some rookies in the
Collective.
For some first-hand experience with how rock fracturing affects it's
magnetic properties, and how that manifests in anomalous geomagnetic
activity (for EQ prediction), see this post:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vo
. Did he happen to mention anything about the frequency response of the
device? I can imagine that it has a very low cutoff frequency, maybe a couple
of hertz.
Dave
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From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint < <mailto:zeropo...@charter.net>
zeropo...@charter.net>
Steven:
I believe he means 'units' and 'unit-less'... as in volts/meter for
electrostatic field strength. He doesn’t mean dimensions as in x,y,z,t
dimensions.
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From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson [mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:01 P
Typically, when you have a ratio of two things whose units are the same, the
answer (ratio) has no units since they cancel, and you're left with a
dimensionless (unitless) number.
In this case, you have:
mp+ / me-,
mass / mass
-mark
-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks - Steven V
I would concur with Steven on the show, especially his description of the
segment with Pooley as the most 'entertaining'... I would call it comical.
Pooley kept on saying, "If you can't explain it, it isn't fusion." Meaning, if
you can't explain it according to known theory, then it doesn't ex
reasonable
hypotheses.
-Original Message-
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Storms on the "Space Show"
I would concur with Steven on the show, especially his descript
I know this has been discussed in the past years, but I'd like to put this
thought out there for the Vorts who joined in the last 12 months...
What is electric 'charge'?
Yes, yes, I know what it is according to fizzix books, but the Vort
Collective tries to probe down past the 'practical' definit
First, a few excerpts from the article found here:
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-quick-cooking-nanomaterials-microwave-to
morrow-air.html
"It's really amazing as to how nanostructures seasoned with just a few atoms
of sulfur can lead to such superior thermoelectric properties of the bulk
gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 8:20 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:What is the aggregate electrical charge of our sun?
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
wrote:
> I know this has been discussed in the past years, but I'd like to put
> this
I have a colleague who was developing an organic photovoltaic cell and at
one time we looked into what it would cost to set up solar panel
manufacturing facility. A single assembly line, highly automated, would
cost about $12M, and would run 24/7 and assemble ~20MW of panels per month.
There are a
Jed wrote:
"when I offered copies of papers by McKubre to Robert Park, he refused to
touch them. He stepped back and let them fall to the floor."
I've experienced the same thing. there is a MIT PhD physicist consultant who
works at a former employer. We have had several conversations about L
Jones wrote:
"At the risk of becoming overly repetitious, at a time where repetition is
not in favor here,"
Jones:
If by some very remote chance :-), you are referring to my posts RE: a
certain other person's voluminous postings on mostly the same ol' thing...
personalities, then I would like to c
:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:"The Space Show" revisited: A Carpet Bombing approach to
debating
Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
We met one day for sushi, and I brought two or three peer-reviewed papers to
gi
Now that's funny! Good one Mary!
-m
From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Capture Drone Downed by Iranian Saucer
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
Capture Drone Downed by Ira
Axil,
Much appreciate your focusing on purely technical material. it's a welcome
diversion to engage in the discussions.
A mistake that many scientists make is assuming that a theory applies for
all possible magnitudes and/or combinations of physical variables which
affect the material under t
*real* discovery.
-Mark
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:44 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:"The Space Show" revisited: A Carpet Bombing approach to
debating
Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
I said I lost respec
MaryYugo wrote:
"What do you think that video clip says of a technical or scientific nature,
if anything? It's just wishful thinking without data, isn't it?"
What you fail to acknowledge is that NASA would not put out a video like
that if they didn't have the data to back it up!
Did a quick read of entire paper...
Santilli has been around quite awhile, and is a Ph.D. physicist; check out
the Wikipedia page on him. The paper is describing his recent tests with
his 'hadronic reactor', which is based on his own theories. Apparently, two
independent labs were used to analyz
Jed can answer that, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was the guy who
threatened Jed with a lawsuit when Jed wanted to include his papers on
lenr.org... he is definitely a rogue researcher, and a bit course, but some
of that probably comes from the way his work has been treated by mainstream
journ
s claims?
harry
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
wrote:
> Did a quick read of entire paper...
>
> Santilli has been around quite awhile, and is a Ph.D. physicist; check
> out the Wikipedia page on him. The paper is describing his recent
> tests with his
you thought times couldn't get any more interesting...
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:01 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mock paper
Well, at least Santilli is a degreed physicist wit
Hi Peter,
Sorry to dig up old, unpleasant memories, however, *IF* he has a better
model for hadrons, should he not get credit?
His side of the issue with scientific journals is explained here:
http://www.scientificethics.org
particularly with World Scientific, this page:
http://www.sc
the label fringe
scientist for years.
The link to his complaint against Infinite Energy is dead.
Harry
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Sorry to dig up old, unpleasant memories, however, *IF* he has a
> better model for hadrons, sh
I'd prefer to use a line from the album, 'Hotel California' by The Eagles...
"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!"
-mark
-Original Message-
From: Vorl Bek [mailto:vorl@antichef.com]
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 1:19 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:
Here is one tidbit that seems to indicate it might be...
-m
==
Santilli writes:
In 1996 I submitted to International Journal of Modern Physics D paper
[35] presenting the FIRST EXACT-NUMERICAL REPRESENTATION OF ALL TOTAL
NUCLEAR MAGNETIC MOMENTS.
The r
AussieGuy wrote:
"Transmutation of elements via the FPE may replace mining."
It'll do more than that. it'll kill the entire precious metals business
which has been a foundation for countries' *monetary systems*. What affect
that will have on economic systems, and countries, is probably not go
of heavier elements proves to
be difficult or impossible.
Eric
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
wrote:
AussieGuy wrote:
“Transmutation of elements via the FPE may replace mining.”
It’ll do more than that… it’ll kill the entire precious metals business which
h
Robin wrote:
"There have been gas turbine powered race cars, so the response can't have
been too bad."
And Jay Leno builds turbine powered motorcycles... I WANT ONE
It uses the small Allison 250 jet turbine engine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvIi17by5W0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP-
Aussie Guy summarizing Rossi's interview...
"512 keV 180 deg Gammas have been detected"
180 degs relative to what?
-Mark
i/Electron%E2%80%93positron_annihilation
AG
On 1/16/2012 6:08 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
> Aussie Guy summarizing Rossi's interview...
> "512 keV 180 deg Gammas have been detected"
>
> 180 degs relative to what?
>
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
For those not following LENR for more than about the last year, the name
Bockris might be new. He did a considerable amount of excellent LENR
research in the 90s, and eventually faced several 'official' inquiries at
the insistence of colleagues. none of which found any wrong-doing or bad
science.
Hi Steven,
Many moons ago I did have a lengthy phone conversation with SteveK on that
very issue. I summarized it in this vortex posting:
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg60298.html
I'll copy it below to save people time looking up the article.
===
SVJ wrote:
ChemE:
This forum really frowns on people who don't use their real names.
-mark
ght be possible to
order up as much uranium-235 as you want.
So for the sake of widespread, unencumbered adoption of LENR, let's hope
that energy production becomes easy and transmutation of heavier elements
proves to be difficult or impossible.
Eric
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Mark
topic needs the focus.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
wrote:
ChemE:
This forum really frowns on people who don't use their real names.
-mark
hemical Engineer wrote:
Mark,
Thanks, I did not know that. Do you really think Mary's last name is Yugo?
I really do appreciate all of the great ideas exchanged in this forum. The
topic needs the focus.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
wrote:
ChemE:
This forum really frowns on people who don't use their real names.
-mark
Welcome Bruno!
Hey, Vorts, has the Collective ever had the contributions from an economist
before?
Anyway, Bruno, thanks for your comments, and I would encourage you to
analyze this from the perspective that it is *real*, that it is an entirely
new type of nuclear/chemical reaction, and will r
Jones,
You missed your calling...
:-)
-m
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:13 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Rossi selling Licenses?
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
> Like,
My understanding concurs with Robin's, that they need to be in-phase.
However, as Axil pointed out in his reference to a PhysOrg article which
states:
"These polaritons overwhelmingly prefer to march in step with each other,
entangling themselves quantum mechanically."
Not sure if that experiment
I didn't quite finish the analogy...
"Imagine the wheel of a car being an electron, which is perfectly balanced
and rotates perfectly. Now add a lead weight (a quantum of heat), and the
wheel now is wobbling all around since it is 'out of balance'. That in turn
causes the entire car (atom) to sh
World's best metronome enables slow-motion pictures of atoms and molecules
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-world-metronome-enables-slow-motion-pict
ures.html
Well, science is getting close to being able to do the definitive experiment
which I asked for earlier in the year.
They just hav
Gee, my serendipitous 'webbing' this eve has been quite interesting and
fruitful. here's one more.
I promise I'll go to bed after this one!
Seeing the "Quantum" in Quantum Zero-Point Fluctuations
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v5/8
PDF for actual article being described:
http://ph
But what is the likelihood that Peter would get permission to use a beam
line for that debunked/junk science called cold fusion? Probability is very
low. and if the hot fusion group has any say, the probability is zero.
-mi
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, Janu
1) so they are wearing jackets in the warehouse; in many tilt-up industrial
parks like this, a small (front) section is walled off and made into offices
and *is* heated, whereas the large warehouse section is not heated to save on
heating costs.
2) Geez, I think there is more than one large shi
I found his statement quite accurate, and reveals his thinking:
"This is a revolution... and for a revolution to be successful, it needs to be
popular."
He very much understands that the power-centers in the world are going to be
*very* resistant to change, and that the only hope for success wit
If you know anything about engineers... good engineers... they are real anal
about details, and the fact that all the labels on things all being in the
same orientation is not strong evidence of the same container.
This certainly is an interesting set of pictures, and raises questions in my
mind,
This is comical! Ya gotta laugh.
So, did Rossi confirm what the Collective seems to be converging to???
Y Thnk!!!
BTW, Thanks go to Patrick Ellul for taking the direct route, and just asking
the horse!
Good job Patrick!
-Mark
From: Robert Leguillon [mailto:robert.leguil...@hot
No Mary, go read the barrage of postings to catch up. after all, that is
what you expect us to do with your barrage of repetitious postings!
Frankly, your recent lack of postings has been a much welcome reprieve.
-mark
From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2
Have to agree with Mary on this one.
The only NI statement's that I've seen were of a general nature. NI has a
lot of customers in the high energy physics world, and other hi-tech
environments. I've used they data acquisition modules a number of times
(love the LAN-based high resolution DAQ
The dog probably ate his thumb-drive…
Bad Einstein! Bad!
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Goodbye Greg
From: Eff Wivakeef
Ø Please note that service of the Bankruptcy Notice and Judgment
Over at the forum at PeakOil.com is a posting by 'SeaGypsy' trying to start
a Class Action suit against Rossi... (see below)
http://peakoil.com/forums/class-action-vs-rossi-ecat-et-al-t64094-30.html
But he clearly admits as to not having invested or 'lost' anything to Rossi.
I don't know what t
"Another concern was waste-water being poured down the drain -- if a nuclear
reaction was occurring that water would be highly radioactive", Mr. Bryce
said.
It's pretty clear that Mr. Bryce didn't do his homework... at all! Woefully
ignorant of anything about LENR/CF and the E-Cat demos. That's
y Greg is a jerk who just happened to back into
this technology as a vehicle for his own scam, not a contributor to the
technology in any way.
Jones
-Original Message-
From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Over at the forum at PeakOil.com is a posting by 'SeaGypsy' trying to start
a Clas
Dam you Jones!!
We have company coming over in 30 mins and I can't read this yet
:-)
BTW, the fact that, your posting earlier that two protons can attract each
other under rare and specific conditions would be *expected* under my
qualitative model expressed this past year.
Man, I ho
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