Terry mentioned..
Chinese village of Huangyangtan.
Hwdy Terry,
Tongue in cheek.. pronounce that chinese word .. orangutang.. make a
monkey outa Amelikan..hehe
Richard
Thomas wrote...
The Rabbis believe that some Germans are of the lineage of Edom, their
arch enemy.
Howdy Thomas..
My thought in posting on the" more than 10 years after" thread was to make
mention that predictions canpull bothfrom the ancient past into the
distant future such as the Purim
Howdy Vorts,
After reading this article I think I will get my bike tires aired.
http://www.politicalusa.com/schlussel17.html
Richard
Harry Veeder wrote..
Tiny Airborne Particles are a Major Cause of Climate
Change-July
18, 2006http://www.physorg.com/news72463917.html
Howdy Harry,
Lets see if I have this straight in my mind. Bush administration and their
Chris Zell wrote..
You might not agree with the answer!!
Howdy Vorts,
Truth alwys being stranger than fiction and more certainly harder to
believe..
Joseph Kingsbury -Smith, the only American reporter witnessing the
execution of the 10 Nazi officials convicted at the Nurenburg trials
you writeof?
Please.
I do not watch TV or read papers or listen to much radio.
JH
On 7/18/06, RC
Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Howdy Vorts,
Seldom do I get so disgusted with government bureaucracy as when I
watched the TV news
Jones wrote..
What "real" purpose is served in such a case by letting the public know
the whole truth ? - that - apparently, is the neocon sentiment on proceeding
with any inquiry on this type of thing. They are probably correct - in a
strange sort of way.Howdy Jones...
I gave up wondering
Howdy Vorts,
Seldom do I get so disgusted with government bureaucracy as when I watched
the TV news storyreporting the indictment of nurses and Dr.Anna Pou for
2nd degree murder. The attorney General of Louisana Chas Foti announced the
charges.
The accused supposedly killed elderly
Thomas wrote...
Thanks for pointing that out Terry. Does anyone understand how this
cellworks?. and patent numbers?
He has a patent pending, application number 20060075683.
You can view it at:
http://tinyurl.com/zrlkf
As far as how it works, review the Joe Cell discussions since there is
Thomas wrote..
With a URL like this, I couldn't resist visiting his website. I read his
writings and they made no sense to me. Am I uneducated, do his ideas on
information processing make sense? http://www.historianofthefuture.com/ubiquit.html
Howdy Thomas..
Don't know about his future but
Anthony wrote..
New to the group. I just became interested and aware, of the
HilschVortex tube. Glad to see an active group, dedicated to
discussion ofthis and other energy devices.Regarding the Vortex
tube, does anyone here have a working model of one?Did you buy it or did you
make it? And
Howdy Vorts,
Access to the internet is perhaps the last vestige of freedom of total
freedom of _expression_ we have in the world. As this freedom is eroded the risk
of pseudo-news increases. The report states China is 2nd to the US in access to
the web..
Not to be discouraged, the hackers
john wrote..
NB: Many general questions I have posed have not even been
respondedto much less answered, hummm?
My understanding is Quantum Physics, Quantum Electro Dynamics andother
areas of Quantum Behavior are THEORY. Often based onMathmatical
Theory. Has this changed? Are there
some
Fred wrote..
According to a recent study, "there is an
ocean of
oil under Texas, but, there is a
moratorium on pumping it
for fear that the Loon Star State will
sink, and everyone in it
will drown in an ocean of
Bullshit."
Howdy Fred...
As usual, us Texans are being misquoted. That is
At 06:06 pm 30/06/2006 -0500, Richard wrote:..
"everything is held together by the power of His Word".
RichardOr in technical terms, by Itereative Hierarchical
Strain. 8-)Frank
Howdy Frank,
Not only is "everything held together by the power of His Word", the
world's most technically
Steven Krivit wrote..
Folks: I have learnt that Purdue's review panel found no evidence of
scientific wrong doing on Taleyarkhan's part, and are expected to issue
an appropriate announcement in due course.I just got off the phone with
Jeanne Norberg, spokesperson for Purdue. She tells me
Terry quoted..
"What makes this approach so interesting is that the behavior of
condensed matter is collective. The details of individual molecules
hardly matter; the system's properties emerge from the act of
aggregation. When water freezes, the molecules do not change, but the
collective
Howdy Vorts,
The herd mentality requires everyone hold the same view regardless. Vorts
are a strange mix that seem to believe there should be at least three biased
views plusa correct balanced view..theirs!! The joy of Vorts is
the ability of it's members to "cut each other some slack"
Grimer wrote..
What happens if hydrogen nuclei are spat out from a
high-pressure region into a low pressure region, like orange pips at a
school dinner table. Would it be analogous to a temperature drop? Would
the hydrogen nuclei condense?
Nick Palmer wrote..
Right from when it was first thought about it was realised that
conventionally growing crops, such ascorn, as biomass would have problems
with the energy balance,top soil impoverishment etc. On the other hand, growing one's own tractor fuel on an integrated
organic farm
Howdy Fred,
Thanks for the insight. Working with large ozone generator control systems
for water treating can be a challenge considering the games O3 can play while
one has his head turned. Trying to troubleshoot these systems can ruin your
sense of humor..Nitric acid or laughing gas..what
Richard wrote..
Give us a suggestion on how you imagine creating interference..
Interesting thought!If
you had two synchronous sources of energy you could have them interfere
constructively (combine) by adjusting the distance between them.
However, I know of no way to synchronize
Howdy Harry and Colin,
Here is a link to the smoke gun blaster fun. Watch carefully as one smoke
ring intercepts another, Some of the rings destruct ,some bounce and some
encircle and enhance by encircling the first torus ring and accelerate.
Jones wrote..
...of course, one wonders if Richard isn't thinking about trying to do
something similar in liquid, intead of a gas perhaps by rapdily moving
his vortex stirrer up and down in the orthogonal vector. Methings the tank
could not take that kind of stress however. Howdy
Terry mentioned " focus" the two
magetrons.No, not
exactly focus; but, create interference patterns between the two
sources. Unfortunately this doesn't work unless the two sources are in
sync. :-(Terry
Howdy Terry,
Magnetrons.. oops my spelling... Give us a suggestion on how you
imagine
Grimer wrote..
You want an exciting theory? What could be more exciting than a theory
which stands conventional physics on its head and claims that materials are
held together by external compressions, not by internal tensions - which
claims that internal tensions, bonds and the like, are
Colin wrote..
Richard, to what "strange" events do ye speak of at the antipodes?
Howdy Colin,
A tried to find my file on a corresponding article to the link below but !
alas! couldn't locate. Iy had to do with some earth related phenomena observed
on the opposite side of the earth to the
For the inquisitive,
Richard. :-)
http://www.iupac.org/publications/pac/1999/71_10_pdf/7110bonizzoni_1879.pdf
Fred
Howdy Fred,
Thanks for the link. Percentage destruction
looks great. Wonder if they are able to sustain the efficency under extended
load application. Plasma arc is pure
john herman wrote...
I hope others in and of votrtex will ask this and similar terms to
be understood some how
OR:
How will we know what vortexians are trying
to talk about??
Howdy John,
You may become aware as others that the English language is evolving into a
"hunchbabe"
Russell postulated several lighter atoms than hydrogen. Someone has
posted his spiral periodic table on line.
Having devised a minimalist sub-atomic periodic table myself,
I am quite interested in this subject. I found images of a
lot of periodic tables including Stowe, Benfey,
Howdy Frank,
Thanks for the posts. You saw Beta at its finest, I saw vortex at its basic.
Spirals , cones, both looking at the same thing. Hmmm!
Richard
- Original Message -
From: Grimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:11 AM
Subject: [Vo]:
At 05:59 pm 14/06/2006 -0700, Steven wrote:I knew there had
to be someway to connect CF to sex!sOf course there
is. 8-)In Britain there is a apparel retailer
called French Connection UK
(FCUK)and if you render this is the language of love it
becomes: Connexion Français UK
(CFUK) What
Grimer wrote..
recently contacted someone who had gone to thetrouble of
obtaining Stan Meyer's autopsy report.The following was his interesting
reply.
===
The autopsy report makes no mention of the often
rumored "food poisoning" and the
Grimer wrote..
Indeed, the LLNL team measures water flow
rates up to 10,000 times faster than would
be predicted by classical equations, which
suggest that flow rates through a pore will
slow to a crawl as the diameter drops.
"It's something that is quite counter-intuitive,"
says
Grimer wrote..
.the water in the nanotubes is in a high state of tension, at a high
pF to use the scientific term. Therefore in putting water into the tubes
the viscosity will seem to be negative since the water will be falling down
a pressure gradient and be "sucked in" to the material.
Michel
wrote..
Like Voltaire I defend your right to reply Frank but there
must be better places to do so, I doubt Parks is subscribed
here.
Grimer wrote..
And incidently, you might be interested to know thatthe quote often
attributed to Voltaire is a myth - 8-)though to be fair, he
Grimer wrote,,
I think it's about time to set about raising Polly Water from the dead, a
tad more difficult than Saving Private Ryan but one more suited to my
temperament and capacities. 8-)Before someone parrots Martha and saith,
"by this time she stinketh, for she is now of four decades" I
Grimer wrote..
Fascinating - "Holy Crap!" indeed - and not at all off topic in view of
the thread on Polywater and Waterfuel.
Howdy Frank...
Fascinating indeed. One step closer to the ability to closer study ball
lightning phenomena. As mentioned in the past, I never met another person that
Is the enhanced engine performance on rainy-misty days due
to cooling of the compression stoke air by vaporization of the
added water or is there something in the water mist-droplets giving
some free energy? Not noticeable on dry winter days,
but it is when driving on snowy ones.
Jones wrote,
99 of that hundred myths are mostly BS but is the 'original' true - or
just one of A.C. Greene's "Chance Encounters: True Stories of Unforeseen
Meetings, With Unanticipated Results"
Howdy Jones,
You do Texas an injustice 'cause 'round here it's 100% BS. If you don't
believe it
Howdy Kyle,
Gosh! Golly! Gee! Kyle.. sometimes important discussion takes place when
Vorts congregate.. sometimes very serious stuff is mentioned.. a little of Parks
helps to remind us we are all human and in need.
Some humor permeates the discussion.. perhaps as a way to keep from crying
Howdy Vorts,
It is a well known fact that adding a mist to the intake can enhance the
performance and increase fuel mileageof an auto.
Elementary example is when I travel to Houston ( 100 miles) during a
streamy hot rainy day I average 24 mpg at 55 mph, stay the night and travel home
ona
Howdy Vorts..
Great insight spoken here. Meanwhile back at the ranch..
This nation has a nightmare staring us in the face with the the continued
increase in electric power consumption. The summer hasn't started in earnest and
we are receiving reports of motor failures of our submersible
hohlraum wrote..
I'm sorry for this rant which is really off topic; but, we're facing a
real problem in many of our contracts. In our industry, we often must
budget five years in advance. In the past five years we have seen
tremendous rise in commodity prices. Today Cu is trading at the
Howdy Vorts..
Reviewing the various battery ideas mentioned I see no mention of the
importance of the shape, culture and environment of this amazing device.
In it's its most elementary form the watermelon is the ideal of all
batteries. It is not only a battery it is contains an onboard
Mike Carroll wrote..
jonfli wrote:Er, what other measurement would you
prefer? RMS, Peak...? I prefer lots and lots of instantaneous
power measurements.Average measurements are
equivalent to DC if the relative phase angles are taken into account
and therefore are the most accurate means .
Standing Bear wrote..
Tis not energy that the Indonesians would seek, but food!
After reading the width of the text I had to re-check to verify it was
Australia and not Texas as the focus.
And then I remembered Texas has already been invaded and captured by the
latinos. About all thatcan
Jones wrote..
There is a marvelous pop-sci book out now by Rudy Rucker, entitled "The
Lifebox, the Seashell, and the Soul". It explores a scientific basis for
spirituality - devoid of dogma and myth. You might think of it as quirky at
first, but by next week , if you stick with it, you might
Grimer wrote..
On the subject of O2 enrichment, has anyone ever analysed the
output of the Ranque-Hilsch Vortex tube to see if the oxygen/nitrogen ratio
is the same for the cold stream as for the hot stream?
Howdy Frank..
Excellent question. Good thought. We just happen to be playing with
Jones wrote...
Although there are copious reports of suspected transmutation with
carbon, there is also the curious fact that carbon apparently can become
ferromagnetic while remaining carbon:http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/17/11/7This possibly
has to do with the formation of 'excitons'
Walter wrote..
Steven, I believe you are indulging in wishful thinking. People
LOVEridicule; it's fun! The skeptics will continue to use it
successfullyuntil something they can't ignore proves they're wrong.
Something like ademonstration that the press has to pay attention to, such
as
Howdy Vorts..
The healthy discussions in this thread make me smile. Perhaps the science
world is emerging from a fraternity mentality to an open and candid community
for all that pursue knowledge.
Cold Fusion needs no defense. Observing the forces unleashed by hurricane
Katrina is ample
Howdy Hohlhoss,
While the US scientific community pursues the US Gov't research grants tied
to the US University good old boy fraternity system, the rest of the world
translates the cumulative research knowledge base into action.
Conclusion: Defense research grants have been totally
Jed wrote..
The US has a tremendous federal budget shortage and a trade deficit,
but these are a matter of choice. They are the result of policies set by
leaders who feel that deficits are not a serious problem. The U.S. has
plenty of money in other parts of the economy. The GDP is
Howdy Vorts..
Interesting artists conceptual view and animation of a pulsar " eating " a
meal. Perhaps ESA has a better grasp of vortex phenomena than NASA.
hmmm
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMWSAA5QCE_index_0.html
Richard
Stephen wrote..
In case nobody's noticed, things are hotting up in South America too.
Morale's nationalization of Bolivia's oil fields is surely just the
opening gambit. I dare say the rulers of Central and
South America are quite familiar with the notion of Peak
Oil...Howdy Stephen,
Grimer wrote..
The big hint is givenby the fact that they turn up in the
context ofsurface tension.Surfaces involve a square law. So two
surfacesinvolve a fourth power law.But what are these two
surfaces?They are the Solid Phase and the Fluid Phase.One is
expanding (negative strain
Howdy Jones,
Mass can only be measured differentially, meaning it must be measured
against a mass. Since we do not know how to identiify the second mass we
remain in guess mode. Consider the exact meter length. There are several of
these exact samples each considered to be a perfect meter
Howdy Robin and Wesley,
Australia has the interesting opportunity to perform in the world. For
sure, we will return to a simplier way of life if for no other reason than we
can't afford the luxury of any more advances in civilization grin.
The advances in battery technology can provide the
Walter Faxon wrote..
Clearly the editors of general sciencejournals do not
themselves have the expertise to directly criticize themethodology of most
CF papers. It's much simpler to rely on theirprevious
conclusions.
Howdy Walter..
Oh! Were it that simple. I mentioned to Steven Krivit that
Howdy Steven V.J.,
Interesting views presented. You must have been stimulated by the book. The
analogies you use are thought provoking.
It gave me pause for thought. We actually exist in "ordered
chaos".Creation as we seek to understand it screams out that it is
hopelessly flawed. What is
Howdy Fred..
An example of the effect can be seen by rubbing a piece of amber over wool.
Or, in Odessa Texas where it is dry, dry, one can walk across a wool carpet in
leather shoes and touch a metal doorknob.
Richard
Howdy Vorts,
One of the realities of marketing is that you can build almost anything you
can sell but you cannot always sell what you can build.
Story of the " world's best dog food manufacturer". They held a convention
for their entire worldwide organization. The leader addressed the
Yum!!
Richard
- Original Message -
From:
Philip Winestone
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Marketing realities
That folks , is the real problem hindering the advance
of CF.. sell some and somebody will build some.Well... Not
Howdy Pteranondon,
Shucks, telling the difference between a line transformer and a line
capacitor is easy. Just disconnect them and touch your tongue to the one you
suspect is a capacitor. You will become enlightened.
England, Merry ole England! They get the blame for upgrading the Greek
Jones wrote...
Spin Doctors, PACs and Ambulance-chasers alike, are keeping a
close watch on unfolding events in Houston this week, as the final
results of that lying-contest may be the key to many things
relating to morality in the USA ..
Howdy Jones..
Welcome to Houston where politics
Howdy John,
Pour yourself a cup of coffee, have a seat and welcome to the conversation.
GRC is glass reinforced concrete but Grimer can explain the idea sorta crumbled.
Pappajo engines evolved from the time when kids were searching for
something better than rubber bands. Hydrinos are sorta
Howdy Vorts,
After reading Steven's May issue I sense a season of common sense present
in the cold fusion community. Tell it like it is, hold nothing back and lets
facts be submitted to a candid world.
The sooner the CF phase of new energy focus responds to the " cleansing
action of the
Jed wrote..
On the other hand, I must admit, it does look like they are scamming ,
and that makes the field look disreputable, doesn't it?
Howdy Jed,
The CF community enjoys the benefits of critique. Like a tidal action within
an estuary has a cleansing action. It's hard and difficult work
It's a bet, a gamble as is all stock. Somebody will put up 2 mil to learn if
a prototype can be built. If it is built, some more mney will be needed to
learn if it works. Then some more money will be needed to see it it will
hold up in service, then more money needed to sell liscenses and
Fred wrote..
Kerosene or JP-4 will work at
higher vane temperatures.
OTOH. If you heat the pool with a
radioisotope "stove"to 1000 K or more
usingmercury, potassium, or
lithium, as a working fluid you can zip right up into
theserious shaftpower range
with only one moving part. :-)
Howdy
Howdy Steven,
Ah! Stanford,
Yes ! It is housed in the huge building the size of the domed stadium.
Seems they were actually working on a death ray gun and /or super rail gun
rather than for the pure love of science.Funny thing is that 4 grad students
duplicated the process using a series of
Steven wrote..
Can someone please tell me what benefits society has received from collider
research?
Howdy Steven,
Central Texas was to be the location of the super collider. Near
Waxahachie, the 25 mile dia underground ring was to be the answer to
everything how to get a Texan elected
Howdy Steven,
You obviously asked the magic question to provoke such a response. Took me
a while to wrap my brain completely around those responses.. from pin
headed angels to theoretical particle welfare physics where the speed of the
growth of the handout is indirectly proportional to the
Jones wrote..
OT: Political commentary on the remainder of the year2006 "The Year
of Living Dangerously" or the NeoConsequel, Subtitled: will Director Goss
bring down theShip-of-State ?
Back to Y.O.L.D. : Indonesia was/is under-appreciatedas a soon-to-be
rich country, now and
Patrick Vessey/Tom Kramer wrote..
Now it is also important to understand the SHAPE of water and its
relatedhydrogen bonding. Under normal conditions the two hydrogen
atoms are atabout a 105o angle to each other (not 90o) due to the fact that
similarcharges oppose each other. This angle,
No ! Terry, Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, The great and
terrible wizard of oz can solve any problem.
You just shot down a sure fire IPO.
Or as the wicked witch of the west said... you destroyed my beautiful
wickedness.. I hate you and your dog toto too!!.
Richard
Fred wrote..
The predominant factor as seen in
most OU effects is the
transient exposure of atoms-molecules to
low pressure "soft vacuum".
Vortices, Orgone, MAHG, Cavitation
Bubbles, Exploding Lightbulbs,
and so on.
Or conversely, the electron clouds expand
outwardly from the
nuclei by
Jones wrote...
WIMPs may be transitory and on "decay" leave an implosion
effect.As to the large estimated mass, compared to standard particles -
the WIMP may not even be a single particle but a collective remnant
of many real particles.Consider it as a "shadow" or as a "relic of
Fred wrote..
Reminiscent of the WPA-built outhouse
we had on a farm
my dad bought right after WW II started.
The corrugated tin roof spaces between it
and the frame
allowed escape of "essence".
Newsprint and the old Sears catalog
served as "Charmin".
The "accumulator" was a hole in the
Michel wrote..
Ah OK Fred, I thought you were talking about conventional
chemistry/physics for once (should have known better ;)Howdy
Michel..
Conventional physics/ chemistry ?? There ain't no such thingas
we are beginning to discover!!
Once had the best welder worked in our shop. You
Fred wrote..
A prime example of ZPE Extraction at High Energy Densities?
"[This is academic parlance for (do I dare say it?) "over
unity".]"
Howdy Fred,
The experiments are an example of the lack of understanding of what science
describes as " electricity". We have been strapped for years
Once saw an old calculus texrbook printed around 1875.. only about 25
pages. Turn the cover to first page to read.
Calculus is made easy by those that know how to teach calculus and
difficult by those that don't.
Turn next page to read..
Considering how many fools on earth can calculate,
Mike Carroll wote..
Will can be applied when there is a tangible body of technology or
structure to apply the 'will' to...
Howdy Mike and Philip.
An additional factor in science research has emerged in today's society.
Research reconceptualized asa business with a revenue stream. In
Howdy Vorts,
Today's Houston Chronicle announced the selection of Dr. Mauro
Ferrari as President od the Alliance.
The Allianceis the result ofthe $144 mil National Cancer
Instituteinitiative...
bionanotechnology, if you will., the Alliance roster includes .. Rice
U, U of Houston, Baylor,
Philip wrote..
"The indication for a steady increase in research funding is apparent
across all science, except CF"And at this critical point
in time, one wonders why (without, of course, delving into conspiracy
theories)...
Howdy Philip,
The article goes on the describe Dr. Ferrari as
Grimer wrote..
The problem with Gravity is that most laymen think of it as a Force.
And the problem with the layman's notion of Force is that it is a static
concept which does not involve time.
It is reminiscent of the way that an electron jumps from one level to
another. Where is the
Grimer wrote,
There are certain advantages is being a quasi modo in the cathedral
of EM.
I suppose being a heretic would be more fun if I had ever beenbaptised in
the EM church - but then perhaps I would have neverseen the looniness of
loops.
Howdy Frank,
Not so loony loops ifyou follow the
Krivit wrote...
Anybody ever think about British Petroleum's name change to BP?Howdy
Steven,
BP is one of the world's morally corrupt enterprises with absolutely no
redeeming values. After the explosion at the BP Amoco plant in Texas City Texas
last year, and the public record of their
Howdy Jones,.
I like it... Jones has enough elastic in his brain to wrap around most any
concept and peer within, plus describe his pros and cons. This one is a mind
bender ,the stuff Jones loves. You must be one self amusing person. rare
breed indeed.
Richard
- Original Message -
- Original Message -
At 03:20 pm 20/03/2006 +1100, you wrote:
In reply to Grimer's message of Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:46:28 +:
Hi,
[snip]
Or even one come to that - a string of ones and zeros.
One doesn't have to use the three Cartesian coordinates
to define space. one could use
- Original Message -
From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Efimov state - key to multi-nuclear LENR?
In reply to RC Macaulay's message of Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:38:17
-0600:
Hi Richard,
[snip]
Howdy
Howdy Robin,
Simple explanations of physics are never as simple as viewed. The rings,
like the favorite magic trick using loops, may actually each be shaped in
the figure 8 .. plus in mobus form. Cutting one would provide the optical
illusion of separating the remaining two, or even trickier,
Howdy Frank,
Which is also an excellent theoretical description of the principle of the
Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube.
Richard
- Original Message -
From: Grimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: Efimov state - key to
Howdy Vorts,
Man's insatiable quest for achievement and stature can convolute science
and technology already shot with genius and quackery. Taleyarkhan can be likened
to Shakespeare's writing " loved not wisely, but well."
Back in WW2, the GI GMC 6x6 2 1/2 ton truck was credited by Patton
Winestone wrote..
Like I tell people all the time; the ONLY way to prove that any of the
Low Energy Nuclear Reactions actually work in a practical sense, is to quickly
incorporate each into a simple prototype working device. Scientists -
especially the closed-minded (non-intuitive) ones -
Howdy Steven,
Notice HP is helping build the Chinagrid. This will change the internet in
ways difficult to foresee.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=181501317
Richard
- Original Message -
From: Steve Krivit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Fred wote..
Are you are puffing on that Havana Tampa and blowing
WHO R U? Toroids, while Frank is sniffing the volatile vapors
from a can of Beta Ether? Hmmm. :-)
Let me say that the disk/flat-washer particleis merely a section
of a torus, or a torus flattened out by the enormous beta
Fred wrote..
OTOH, I am somewhat disturbed by Richard Macaulay's description of what
hesaw.during his intrusion of a Houston "Cantina" on Ladies
Night
Richard wrote
Them spittoons look sorta weird spinning and perambulating acroos the
room, wad with stuf and snuff coming outa the top and
Grimer wrote..
The Aspden effect is so mysterious cos it is the inverse of a very
familiar effect. It's like the Shroud. It's not until one sees the
negative image that one realises that's precisely what the Shroudis, a
negative image.You will realise what that familiar effect is when I
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