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2014-03-30 Thread Axil Axil
It doesn't matter about the detailed reaction that gets us there. The tale is told in the ash product found in this *Mizuno experiment *and the proof of a reverse of the PP fusion reaction is clear. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Axil Axil

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2014-03-30 Thread Alain Sepeda
one possibility is that the increase of the number of molecule and the isotopic change 4->3->2 are not the same phenomenon... imagine a transmutation from a diatomic gas to a mono-atomic gas... other possibility discussed here is , since it is low pressure, some dissociation dunno if H+ D+ can sta

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2014-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Axil Axil wrote: There is no indication that any atom larger in mass than deuterium had been > generated. > See the yellow arrow for species of mass 3 on pp. 38, 39, 41 and 42 of the slides (according to Chrome): http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/YoshinoHreplicable.p

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2014-03-29 Thread Axil Axil
The decay of the neutron must be instansious because no indications of neutron absorption into a deuterium nucleus to produce tritium. There is no indication that any atom larger in mass than deuterium had been generated. You must assume instansious completion of the reaction exclusive of any sid

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2014-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: The claim I will egregiously ignore for the moment as either being artifact > or something that is different from what we currently understand it to be > is the idea that there were twice as many gas molecules after the > experiment had run than at the time it had started. > I think I fo

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2014-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Eric Walker wrote: I just discovered that you wrote concerning the OP angle back in 2010 (and > Abd Lomax replied): > > https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com > That second link above, where Jones and Abd Lomax discuss the Oppenheimer-Phillips process

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2014-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Jones Beene wrote: I wrote "p+Ni", but I meant "d+Ni". > > The d+Ni reaction would have to be the Oppenheimer-Phillips version, to be > statistically relevant. Here is a blip on Passell’s O-P theroy. I have not > found it as a separate file. > > ht

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2014-03-29 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker The p+Ni lead appears to align with the thoughts of the experimenters themselves, who included graphs of the neutron capture cross sections for nickel in their slides. I wrote "p+Ni", but I meant "d+Ni". The d+Ni

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2014-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: > >- The p+Ni lead appears to align with the thoughts of the >experimenters themselves, who included graphs of the neutron capture cross >sections for nickel in their slides. > > I wrote "p+Ni", but I meant "d+Ni". Eric

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2014-03-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Jones Beene wrote: There would be a net decrease in gas quantity under any scenario in which > D2 reacts with nickel – never wound an increase be expected, even small - > much less a ~2:1 increase in gas quantity. Amazing. > I think the lead that you and Axil are

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
For D, certainly He4 is detected, correlated with heat. For H, it's a harder issue, so we cannot know if its is fusion which is happening, that is, with correlation with heat. 2014-03-29 2:47 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > You said > > Certainly, the only proof for fusion is the generation of He4 > > W

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
You said Certainly, the only proof for fusion is the generation of He4 Will you accept this since the is no He4 detected, then there is no fusion taking place. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > I have no idea of what you are saying. Certainly, the only proof for > fusion

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
I have no idea of what you are saying. Certainly, the only proof for fusion is the generation of He4. Perhaps, traces of T. Anything else is not certain, that is, not independently tested and related to the generated heat. The quantity of fused H is too small, so, the ration (V(T)/V(H)) will mono

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
you said *What you may have is 4H+4E ->H + T. * this reaction would mark a decrease in volume/cm3 which never happened. therefore T and/or 3He was never generated. There was no fusion to heavier elements taking place, only fission to lighter atoms (H). On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Daniel R

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
What are you talking about? It's just what I wrote. 2014-03-29 2:20 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > If T was produced in any quantity , Volume/cm3 would have dropped but it > never did, it increased monotonically. It never decreased not even > temporally. > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Daniel

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
If T was produced in any quantity , Volume/cm3 would have dropped but it never did, it increased monotonically. It never decreased not even temporally. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > The D does not become H. What you may have is 4H+4E ->H + T. > > > 2014-03-28 22:59 GMT

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
The D does not become H. What you may have is 4H+4E ->H + T. 2014-03-28 22:59 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > Yes, this is not happening in this system. ergo, the Akito Takahashi > theory does not apply to the experimental data. > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> You just wr

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
Yes, this is not happening in this system. ergo, the Akito Takahashi theory does not apply to the experimental data. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > You just wrote 2 heliums from Be8 decay > > > 2014-03-28 22:04 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > > >> No Helium is seen in this s

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding: many particles convering into a nuclear fusion Explain the details of this fusion reaction with emphasis on how D becomes 2 H. exclusive of any other nuclear reactions apparent. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > An incoming and focused compression wave comes and

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
You just wrote 2 heliums from Be8 decay 2014-03-28 22:04 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > > No Helium is seen in this system. Start with that. > > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
An incoming and focused compression wave comes and compresses the H(D) into polyhedral shape, when the compressive achieves around 10eV per atom, Akito's mechanism kicks in. It shrinks the polyhedra until compton wavelength. Less than that and the relativistic effects become dominant. Then, there a

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
FYI Summary of Theory Akito Takahashi proposes a nonlinear Langevin equation that depicts a tetrahedral symmetric condensate with four deuterons and four electrons. Takahashi proposes this as a seed of four-deuterium fusion with helium-4 products in condensed matter. TSC condenses in about 1.4fs

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
Ok, explain how these theories produce the results observed in this system, I don't see how. but I am open to a change of mind. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > I just pointed out to you Akito Takashi (including those we did together) > and Andrew Meulemberg's papers. > >

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
I just pointed out to you Akito Takashi (including those we did together) and Andrew Meulemberg's papers. 2014-03-28 21:43 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > Remember Jones Beene said: > > "Neutron decay is exothermic, but the stripping reaction itself - where > the neutron is separated from deuterium invo

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
*Takahashi 2014-03-28 21:50 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha : > I just pointed out to you Akito Takashi (including those we did together) > and Andrew Meulemberg's papers. > > > 2014-03-28 21:43 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > > Remember Jones Beene said: >> >> "Neutron decay is exothermic, but the stripping rea

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
Remember Jones Beene said: "Neutron decay is exothermic, but the stripping reaction itself - where the neutron is separated from deuterium involves kinetic energy depletion - *so yes, the net reaction is not necessarily gainful unless the kinetic energy of the deuteron is supplied in a gainful way

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
You forgot the deuteron. 2014-03-28 21:24 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > Take note: > The neutron is about 0.2% more massive than a proton, which translates to > an energy difference of 1.29 MeV. > > When a heavy particle becomes a lighter one, the mass difference (.2%) is > converted to energy via E=M

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
Take note: The neutron is about 0.2% more massive than a proton, which translates to an energy difference of 1.29 MeV. When a heavy particle becomes a lighter one, the mass difference (.2%) is converted to energy via E=MC^2. You have your signs confused. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Daniel R

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
That doesn't make sense. The total energy is negative, it's endodermic, so this is not an explanation for cold fusion. 2014-03-28 20:36 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > The decay of the neutron is associated with a quark > transformation

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
The decay of the neutron is associated with a quark transformationin which a down quark is converted to an up by the weak interaction . The average lifetime of 10.3 min/0.693 = 14.9 minutes is surprisingly long for a particle deca

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
If it were endothermic, it would never happen. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > That's not quite correct, you should do like this > > D -> P + N -> 2P + e > > It's endothermic > > > 2014-03-28 16:57 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > > A neutron becomes a proton with a gain of .75 Me

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
That's not quite correct, you should do like this D -> P + N -> 2P + e It's endothermic 2014-03-28 16:57 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > A neutron becomes a proton with a gain of .75 MeV, > > P + N = 2P > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> What neutron decay? Weren't you tal

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
A neutron becomes a proton with a gain of .75 MeV, P + N = 2P On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > What neutron decay? Weren't you talking about deuteron yielding 2 hydrogen? > > > 2014-03-28 15:37 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > > Jones Beene said: >> >> "Neutron decay is exothermic

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
What neutron decay? Weren't you talking about deuteron yielding 2 hydrogen? 2014-03-28 15:37 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > Jones Beene said: > > "Neutron decay is exothermic, but the stripping reaction itself - where > the neutron is separated from deuterium involves kinetic energy depletion - > so ye

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
Jones Beene said: "Neutron decay is exothermic, but the stripping reaction itself - where the neutron is separated from deuterium involves kinetic energy depletion - so yes, the net reaction is not necessarily gainful unless the kinetic energy of the deuteron is supplied in a gainful way, or unles

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
That's an endothermic reaction. And I don't see where it would fit anywhere in any scheme. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
The fission or deuterium into protium, On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > What kind of fission? > > > > 2014-03-28 15:19 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > > Give me the hints that deal with fission. >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: >> >>> I cannot explain

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
What kind of fission? 2014-03-28 15:19 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > Give me the hints that deal with fission. > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> I cannot explain everything. I'm sorry. But I can give you hints. >> >> >> 2014-03-28 15:12 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : >> >> https:

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
Give me the hints that deal with fission. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > I cannot explain everything. I'm sorry. But I can give you hints. > > > 2014-03-28 15:12 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcTSUJUCRHE >> >> The composite model does not fit

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
I cannot explain everything. I'm sorry. But I can give you hints. 2014-03-28 15:12 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcTSUJUCRHE > > The composite model does not fit what is going on in this system. If it > does in your opinion, then explain how it does. > > > On Fri, Mar 2

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcTSUJUCRHE The composite model does not fit what is going on in this system. If it does in your opinion, then explain how it does. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > To the mechanisms I pointed out to you. > > > 2014-03-28 15:06 GMT-03:00 Ax

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
To the mechanisms I pointed out to you. 2014-03-28 15:06 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > objection to what? > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> Well, and you can see that this is a different type of fusion/fission. I >> don't get your objection. >> >> >> 2014-03-28 15:02 GMT-

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
objection to what? On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Well, and you can see that this is a different type of fusion/fission. I > don't get your objection. > > > 2014-03-28 15:02 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > > I understand fission to be a process where in all cases a external >> s

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
Well, and you can see that this is a different type of fusion/fission. I don't get your objection. 2014-03-28 15:02 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > I understand fission to be a process where in all cases a external > stimuli affects the disruption of the atomic nucleus. > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:5

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
I understand fission to be a process where in all cases a external stimuli affects the disruption of the atomic nucleus. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > How can you be sure that no compression is involved? > > > 2014-03-28 14:55 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > > The reaction in t

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
How can you be sure that no compression is involved? 2014-03-28 14:55 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > The reaction in this system is fission without any compression involved. > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> But Nickel does absorb. And why can't EMF projection of force be

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2014-03-28 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker I would have thought that the protons would migrate out and recombine to form H2. But I don't think that would account for a twofold increase. There would be a net decrease in gas quantity under any scenario in which D2 reacts with nickel – never wound an increase be

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
The reaction in this system is fission without any compression involved. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > But Nickel does absorb. And why can't EMF projection of force be more > easily done inside a lattice? Not that the lattice is fundamental here. But > confinement for c

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
But Nickel does absorb. And why can't EMF projection of force be more easily done inside a lattice? Not that the lattice is fundamental here. But confinement for compression is. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

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2014-03-28 Thread David Roberson
reasons. Rossi and DGT appear to have strong positive results and of course the cost of D is far in excess to that of 1H. Let's allow the dust to settle a bit. Dave -Original Message- From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 11:06 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:M

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
The theories that you recommend are predicated on the absorption of hydrogen into a metal lattice. This lattice confinement defines the positions of the nuclei that are to undergo fusion. In all cases these theories revolve around a positional CONFINEMENT involved of atoms to be proximate to the lo

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2014-03-28 Thread James Bowery
Funny, that was the first thing I noticed when scanning the slides and it seemed to me such an obvious dataum that I assumed they must have based the imputations that followed on it. However, I haven't looked closely at those imputations because until someone else actually replicates this "replica

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2014-03-28 Thread Jones Beene
From: David Roberson The main problem I see with this line of reasoning is that Rossi and DGT are getting positive results. Why would that happen unless the normal hydrogen reacts with nickel directly? Protium does react directly ! This goes bac

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
Heh, just look for Akito and Andrew Meulember on Jed's library. 2014-03-28 13:57 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > To be specific, please locate this information you recommend for me. > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> Axil, why don't you try to take things from the side of A

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
To be specific, please locate this information you recommend for me. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Axil, why don't you try to take things from the side of Akito? Also, try > to look for solutions of femto atoms. You'd be much closer to the truth. > > -- > Daniel Rocha -

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2014-03-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
Axil, why don't you try to take things from the side of Akito? Also, try to look for solutions of femto atoms. You'd be much closer to the truth. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
The particularities of this reaction could be simply caused by the proximity of nuclei to each other, that is, the distances between atoms as a result of chemical bonds. If no nano particles are formed by deuterium, from a chemical standpoint the positions of their nuclei are not in close proximit

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2014-03-28 Thread Carl High
the cost of D is far in excess to > that of 1H. Let's allow the dust to settle a bit. > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jones Beene > To: vortex-l > Sent: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 11:06 am > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming > > *From

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2014-03-28 Thread Axil Axil
e cost of D is far in excess to >> that of 1H. Let's allow the dust to settle a bit. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jones Beene >> To: vortex-l >> Sent: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 11:06 am >> Subject: RE: [Vo]:

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2014-03-28 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
” which I don’t know anything about. Arnaud _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: vendredi 28 mars 2014 05:15 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming Guys

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2014-03-28 Thread Alain Sepeda
all that affair look like a miracle inside the miracle... I suspect all is the same animal, but this animal is joking with us. time for more experiments. Labs seeking fund ! Any other angel here? 2014-03-28 5:22 GMT+01:00 Eric Walker : > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Jones Beene wrote: >

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2014-03-27 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Jones Beene wrote: You may have missed one huge detail. Did not the gas quantity in the reactor > actually increase significantly after 30 days compared to initial > conditions > ? > Yes. Interesting detail. I hope they give out more information. > If D2 gas

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2014-03-27 Thread Jones Beene
Guys, You may have missed one huge detail. Did not the gas quantity in the reactor actually increase significantly after 30 days compared to initial conditions ? Maybe I am the one to have misinterpreted that detail, which would be extremely important and would seem to negate the possibility of

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2014-03-27 Thread H Veeder
Listen to Hagelstein answer a question about fission at the 47:50 min mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUHYf8WZ8w4&list=UUH78efhknLR-cuL9w2hVcUQ To explain transmutation from lower to higher mass nuclei he proposes an inverse fractionation process to liberate a neutron from one nucleus coupl

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2014-03-27 Thread Jones Beene
No Way. That kind of radiation would stand out like a sore thumb. With 150 watts of energy from average 7 MeV protons for 30 days, the Mizuno lab would be a small Fukushima… From: torulf.gr...@bredband.net I see you was quicker with neutron capture. But the should look for He4 in the

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2014-03-27 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: What is interesting in the above scenario is that we are looking at the > possibility not of proton capture but of neutron capture. > The Oppenheimer-Phillips process (mentioned by Jones) becomes quite interesting in the context of a d+Ni reaction. Given the very strong repulsion of the

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2014-03-27 Thread H Veeder
Eric, I was referring to Jones post where he was taking about stripping the neutron from a deuterium to make hydrogen, but the fusion reactions you listed below are worth considering too. Harry On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:55 AM, H Veeder w

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2014-03-27 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:20 PM, wrote: > I se you was quicker with neutron capture. > > But the should look for He4 in the Ni metall. > Good idea. 4He does not migrate in palladium, so it may not migrate in nickel either. Eric

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2014-03-27 Thread torulf.greek
I se you was quicker with neutron capture. But the should look for He4 in the Ni metall. On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 20:06:03 -0700, Eric Walker wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:55 AM, H Veeder wrote: Going from D to H should be endothermic. Exciting slides. I do not have the wherewithal t

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2014-03-27 Thread torulf.greek
You only have to compare the mass difference before and after the reaction. No QM can change it. The reaction D to 2p is endothermic! There must be better ideas of watt happened in the experiment. The He4 from CF of Deuterium was find in Pd systems. Maybe the use of Ni changes something.

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2014-03-27 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:55 AM, H Veeder wrote: Going from D to H should be endothermic. > Exciting slides. I do not have the wherewithal to assess their calorimetry, so I will assume it is accurate. Here are some exothermic reactions involving generation of H from D: - d + 60Ni → 61Ni +

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2014-03-27 Thread Jones Beene
From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com >what about the electrons in that stripping, and the neutrino... Alain - I started a new thread to address some of the problems. "The DD-BOP reaction in the context of Mizuno's new paper" Yes there are problems with this hypothesis - but Mizuno's amazing

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2014-03-27 Thread Alain Sepeda
what about the electrons in that stripping, and the neutrino... does it stay positives? what is the equation? naively I imagine np+np -> 4p + 2e +2!v is it still positive? electrons cost 511kev to create, about the gain... I don't master enough to be sure of anything 2014-03-27 18:58 GMT+01

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2014-03-27 Thread Axil Axil
Like piantelli's approach, this technology is a low gain approach because the SPP pumping is very weak. Both DGT and Rossi have very high levels of polariton pumping including additional nanoparticle generation. They both have the Cat and Mouse architecture where the Mouse pumps SPP and the Cat is

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2014-03-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: Attention water-heads (“Mizuno” literally means 'From Water') > It means water field (水野) The second character is "field" or "plain." Iwamura (岩村) means rock + village. Dr. Rockville. Most Japanese personal names are descriptions of places. Many English names describe an occ

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2014-03-27 Thread Jones Beene
Attention water-heads ("Mizuno" literally means 'From Water') Here is another weird and wonderful implication of the recent Mizuno paper which would explain how two deuterons react in such a way as to provide more energy than chemical but with few gamma rays and few neutrons - and with lots of

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2014-03-27 Thread Axil Axil
Transmutation of neutrons into protons is consistent with the posit that p-mesons are catalyzed out of a degenerate vacuum forced by the application of extreme magnetic fields. for reference: *The **P **and **A **mesons in strong abelian magnetic field in SU(2) lattice gauge theory.* http://

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2014-03-27 Thread Jones Beene
Neutron decay is exothermic, but the stripping reaction itself - where the neutron is separated from deuterium involves kinetic energy depletion - so yes, the net reaction is not necessarily gainful unless the kinetic energy of the deuteron is supplied in a gainful way, or unless the bond energy is

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2014-03-27 Thread H Veeder
Going from D to H should be endothermic. Harry On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > From: Jed Rothwell > > I will upload this version this morning and then go back to > yesterday's version and replace the Japanese text in some of the graphs > l

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2014-03-27 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell I will upload this version this morning and then go back to yesterday's version and replace the Japanese text in some of the graphs later on. Thanks to Jed from all of us ! This is most informative, and possibly it is the most important single d

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2014-03-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Okay, I started from scratch with a new version of the PowerPoint slides. The PDF file shrank from 40,060 KB down to 4,591 KB. Acrobat is unpredictable. It is "the format where documents go to die." I will upload this version this morning and then go back to yesterday's version and replace the Jap

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2014-03-26 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Stop the teasin already :) On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Okay, I now have revised revised and revised expanded slides. Some from > Mizuno and some from Yoshino. I may not be able to upload them until > tomorrow. But you'll like 'em. > > I translated most of the text int

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Okay, I now have revised revised and revised expanded slides. Some from Mizuno and some from Yoshino. I may not be able to upload them until tomorrow. But you'll like 'em. I translated most of the text into English. Most of the photos of equipment are same ones I used in the ICCF18 poster. The ph

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming

2014-03-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Oops. I meant Mr. Yoshino (吉野). - Jed