Re: [Vo]:S.Korea Fusion

2013-01-24 Thread Edmund Storms
This type of hot fusion has three problems that have not been solved or even widely acknowledged. 1. The fusion is between D+T. The tritium must be created because it is not a natural isotope. The plan is to convert the neutron flux into tritium which is fed back into the reactor.

Re: [Vo]:S.Korea Fusion

2013-01-24 Thread Edmund Storms
nuclear plant at Rongcheng. Yes, China is on the front of many technologies now because the West is captured by various self-interests that have no relationship to general benefit. Ed —Jouni Sent from my iPad On Jan 25, 2013, at 1:54 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote

Re: [Vo]:S.Korea Fusion

2013-01-24 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Jan 24, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: Indeed, However plasma physics is by itself interesting, so it is nice to have some big science experiments

Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions

2013-01-25 Thread Edmund Storms
. He tries to explain Rossi's reactor. See p. 18, table II. This context shows he's trying to explain CF and Rossi's reactor. 2013/1/23 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com This paper and many others like it describe how HOT fusion is enhanced when it occurs in a chemical lattice. This study

Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions

2013-01-25 Thread Edmund Storms
. The only difference it is that there are many, more than 2, incoming nuclei to fuse. You cannot do that in experiments using colliders, it is too unlikely. So, you cannot say that cold fusion is any different than hot fusion that easily. 2013/1/25 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Yes

Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions

2013-01-25 Thread Edmund Storms
by considering an arbitrarily high quantity of particles, like quarks and gluons and whatever particle of the SM you want. So, there is no rule restricting the number of bodies taking part in the problem. 2013/1/25 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com In any case, several basic rules MUST

Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions

2013-01-25 Thread Edmund Storms
and break the isotropy. Regards Fran From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:38 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions The human mind is able to imagine endless possibilities. In order to make any

Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions

2013-01-25 Thread Edmund Storms
Instead, I suggest you consult any physics text about the law of conservation of momentum. Ed On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: No, we are certainly not. I let this Sisyphean task to Abd. 2013/1/25 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Daniel, we are not communicating

Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions

2013-01-25 Thread Edmund Storms
these laws are seen by any one observer, then they are true for all of the others. Do you see a hole in this argument? How are the laws true for others but not for the one ideally located? Dave -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com

Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions

2013-01-25 Thread Edmund Storms
, everyone should read every message before replying. Ed Proof of this assertion will be from this point forth since most of those engaged in the current discussion will now understand the issue of energy and momentum requirements. Dave -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms stor

Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions

2013-01-25 Thread Edmund Storms
! I greatly honor your contributions to and knowledge of this important field and I look forward to receiving additional guidance from your inputs to vortex. We all appreciate the opportunity to converse with you when you join us. Dave -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms stor

Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions

2013-01-25 Thread Edmund Storms
- From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Sent: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 12:12 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions The problem with such exchanges is that the messages to different people cross so that I have

Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions

2013-01-25 Thread Edmund Storms
, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Jan 25, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Axil Axil wrote: Quantum mechanics lives in the realm of the wave. The electron will exert it influence on the positive charge nucleus in bits and pieces. Alex, you are using the wave model and I'm using the particle model

Re: [Vo]:Chemonuclear Transitions

2013-01-25 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 25, 2013, at 3:49 PM, torulf.gr...@bredband.net torulf.gr...@bredband.net wrote: Excuse my grammar. English is not my native language. I will try to answer your questions as simply as possible. Can energy and momentum be transferred from the new He4 to another nucleus at some

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-26 Thread Edmund Storms
A truly scary prospect, I would say. Humans now have three ways they could make themselves extinct - atomic weapons, biological weapons, and smart computers. The list seems to be growing. What happens when the smart computer is run by cold fusion so that it can never be turned off? Ed

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-26 Thread Edmund Storms
Well Steven, as usual you cleverly identified another way humans will become extinct. These activities will cause excessive sex from boredom, which will require the computer to thin the population, perhaps by an excessive amount using the other tools I mentioned. Ed On Jan 26, 2013, at

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-26 Thread Edmund Storms
. Ed On Jan 26, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: A truly scary prospect, I would say. Humans now have three ways they could make themselves extinct - atomic weapons, biological weapons, and smart computers. I do not see it that way. Nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-26 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 26, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I agree Jed, you are correct if humans were rational. They are, at times. If we were not rational, civilization and technology would not exist. Unfortunately, a significant fraction

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-26 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:45 AM, a.ashfield wrote: Interesting discussion. I have been writing about this for years but it is good to see the main media is starting to pick it up. The referenced article was rather unimaginative in places but noted the basic question: “who is going buy all

Re: [Vo]:S.Korea Fusion

2013-01-26 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Some LENR systems produce tritium and this decays into He3. Could a LENR system be engineered to supply enough He3 to make this sort of hot fusion practical

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-26 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:45 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: From Ashfield: ... The referenced article was rather unimaginative in places but noted the basic question: “who is going buy all these nice goodies if they are unemployed?” Precisely. personal rant IMHO, too many

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-26 Thread Edmund Storms
Yes, Mark, this would be the best place to start. But jobs will be lost, the only issue is which jobs. Congress does not want to cut any jobs because these are voters. They only want to cut things that will piss off the fewest number of people who vote. The poor do not vote so they are

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-26 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: No Steven, what you say is not the issue. The issue is that money has been lent to the US in various forms and by various people and they want their money back

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-26 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Pollution is gradually being reduced. Except in China and India, which is most of the world. Pollution per dollar of GDP is down in both. China is making rapid strides, adding nuclear and wind

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-26 Thread Edmund Storms
amount of money, which people resist. Also, the debt is much larger now. We have passed the point of no return according to most analysts. Ed On Jan 26, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Debt is good within limits, Eric. The problem comes when

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-27 Thread Edmund Storms
away and came back with a report. The first real royal commission that we have had in a long time Nigel On 26/01/2013 23:54, Edmund Storms wrote: Sorry Jed, but your analysis conflicts with every economist that I have read and I read many. Raising taxes back to Clayton is not possible

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-27 Thread Edmund Storms
Hi Frank, Thanks for a copy of your book. I'm part way through and find it very interesting. As to your question, a financial collapse always affects different people different ways depending where they live and their personal financial situation. Generally, a skilled person who uses

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-29 Thread Edmund Storms
Not just sad but scary because such an apparent lack of education is revealed in the comments. We all agree that standards have been lowered for both high-school and college degrees. As a result, many graduates are qualified only for low skilled jobs. Consequently, a big push is now

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-29 Thread Edmund Storms
for this consultant was declined but I was offered all the H-1b visas from India I wanted. Literally. Guess what ethnicity was of the guy in charge of that project? The Fortune 500 is now taken over by India. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Not just sad

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-29 Thread Edmund Storms
of being a US citizen. My request for this consultant was declined but I was offered all the H-1b visas from India I wanted. Literally. Guess what ethnicity was of the guy in charge of that project? The Fortune 500 is now taken over by India. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Edmund Storms stor

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-29 Thread Edmund Storms
From: Edmund Storms [stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:07 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:57 AM, James Bowery wrote

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-29 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 29, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Ed Storms wrote: Thanks Mark. Their view of reality differs significantly from what the people I read describe. I tend to believe my people because they predicted the 2008 collapse while Krugman did not. . . . Krugman did predict it, and

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-29 Thread Edmund Storms
I'm always amazed, no matter what the conclusion, someone can always find evidence for the opposite. Here are some contrary opinions. I expect the economic class has an influence and some fraction of any population will always be well educated and some fraction will be poorly educated.

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-29 Thread Edmund Storms
to work there with an wage bellow what people with the same high skill would get. People come to the US for many reasons. But, I agree, a tendency exists to pay them less than US citizens. Ed 2013/1/29 Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com We all agree that standards have been lowered

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-29 Thread Edmund Storms
is that this age of pessimism is going to end soon even without LENR. - Original Message - From: Edmund Storms To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment On Jan 29, 2013, at 1

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-29 Thread Edmund Storms
to the viability of Social Security. Automation is eliminating jobs at such a rate that the payroll tax funding source may be in peril. From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:30 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:Another article about

Re: [Vo]:Another article about the impact of automation on employment

2013-01-29 Thread Edmund Storms
, but this effort also has basic limitations. Nanotechnology will open new markets and, ironically, provide the solution to making CF work. We just need to understand how to apply it, which I'm trying to do. Ed - Original Message - From: Edmund Storms To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc

Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

2013-01-30 Thread Edmund Storms
Dave, I hate to get involved in another debate war, but the climate change issue is too important to ignore. The ice is melting world-wide and the average temperature is increasing. The glaciers are melting and the Arctic regon is losing ice. This fact is acknowledged by all sides in the

Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

2013-01-30 Thread Edmund Storms
start thinking in these terms soon. I thought ahead and now live at 8500 feet. :-) Ed On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I believe, like many other people, that if the main caused is CO2 production, we are too late to stop

Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

2013-01-30 Thread Edmund Storms
, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Jed, it is too late because no practical way exists to stop burning fossil fuels. I am sorry but this is nonsense. The Chinese are presently building 30 nuclear power reactors, and they are installing roughly that much wind

Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

2013-01-30 Thread Edmund Storms
homeowners think they are entitled to govt aid when they were too stupid to just move. -Mark From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100 Dave, I

Re: [Vo]:Political will to act often appears quickly, and decisively

2013-01-30 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: As you can see, the political will does not exist to do anything heroic. The will is not even present to develop cold fusion, which in any case would require years before it had any impact at all

Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

2013-01-30 Thread Edmund Storms
-Original Message- From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Sent: Wed, Jan 30, 2013 4:30 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100 You don't. You build dikes and pump out the water, aka Holland. But you

Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

2013-01-30 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: No, Jed, it is not nonsense. It is simply a difference of opinion. Yes, the Chinese are working hard to get energy. Meanwhile the Japanese are burning more fossil fuel because they are afraid

Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

2013-01-30 Thread Edmund Storms
the investment in the field will more than likely be like a tsunami and advances will very likely occur at breakneck speeds. That in my opinion is the way revolutions occur. They seldom sneak up on anyone. More often they just sweep the landscape. - Original Message - From: Edmund Storms

Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

2013-01-31 Thread Edmund Storms
You are right, Chris, mankind is being confronted by a growing list of basic problems. Deciding which one is the most important is hard. All of them have the potential to cause massive pain and suffering. What is worse, the nature of the problem is too technical and complex for most

Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

2013-01-31 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: What is worse, the nature of the problem is too technical and complex for most people to understand. In the past, all problems were too complex for anyone to understand. In 1700 people did

Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

2013-01-31 Thread Edmund Storms
On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:54, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Take the mortgage melt down in 2008 and following, do you think any intelligence was used by the financial industry. Yet these people almost collapsed the financial system

Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

2013-01-31 Thread Edmund Storms
Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Some of the world's smartest minds worked together to produce the financial collapse. . . . Does what you describe not represent stupid behavior? Yes! It is both smart and stupid, at the same time. Most wars are like that. People who

Re: [Vo]:OT - Global Warming

2013-02-02 Thread Edmund Storms
Nice analysis, Craig. However, I think the wrong issues are being discussed. I think we can agree and a wide range of date show that the average temperature of the earth is going up, the ocean levels are rising, and the pH the ocean is shifting in a more acid direction. All of these

Re: [Vo]:a very relevant resignation!

2013-02-03 Thread Edmund Storms
Lawry, I agree such a statement is required and I have created many variations. Such a statement is only effective when it is targeted to a particular audience. Obviously, a Congressman requires a different approach compared to an educated scientist. Consequently, a variety of statements

Re: [Vo]: MFMP Null Result

2013-02-07 Thread Edmund Storms
David, I have not been following your evaluation closely, but I have done a lot of calorimetry in my life. The ONLY way a calorimeter can be tested is to use it without any source of excess energy being present. That means you need to run the calorimeter in the planned way with the

Re: [Vo]: MFMP Null Result

2013-02-07 Thread Edmund Storms
. This is my result so far. Tomorrow, I am hoping that things will change toward the other direction. I am confident that you are aware that I am seeking confirmation of LENR activity. It is unusual for me to behave as a skeptic. Dave -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms stor

Re: [Vo]: MFMP Null Result

2013-02-07 Thread Edmund Storms
firmly established by now that virtually everyone with any degree of credibility agrees? On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: David, I have not been following your evaluation closely, but I have done a lot of calorimetry in my life. The ONLY way

Re: [Vo]:George Miley up for ARPA-E funding

2013-02-08 Thread Edmund Storms
Well said James. We have three other companies claiming to have commercial generators of power. Each of these claims is based on dubious demonstrations. What is the Miley claim based on? Can we expect his claim to be debated and examined in the way the Rossi claim has experienced? Just

Re: [Vo]:George Miley up for ARPA-E funding

2013-02-08 Thread Edmund Storms
regardless of its demonstrated lack of reality? Ed On Feb 8, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: We have three other companies claiming to have commercial generators of power. Each of these claims is based on dubious demonstrations. What is the Miley

Re: [Vo]:George Miley up for ARPA-E funding

2013-02-08 Thread Edmund Storms
, this will not reflect well on our objectivity. Ed On Feb 8, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: The sarcasm is appreciated, Jed. I am glad someone recognizes it as such. But seriously, are we in the field free to propose money be spent on any claim

Re: [Vo]:George Miley up for ARPA-E funding

2013-02-08 Thread Edmund Storms
not pitch your proposed research program so we can vote with a clear conscience? https://ultralight.wufoo.com/forms/future-energy-application-form/ On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Yes, by all means give George a chance to be heard. Nevertheless, I

Re: [Vo]:George Miley up for ARPA-E funding

2013-02-08 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 8, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Rob Dingemans wrote: Hi, On 8-2-2013 22:38, Edmund Storms wrote: Yes, by all means give George a chance to be heard. Nevertheless, I think that all proposals need to be treated with the same level of skepticism. Rossi, for example, is required to PROVE his

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
Chuck, consider these issues. First, the BEC between atoms has not been shown to occur except near absolute zero. The claim for such a structure between hypothetical particles based on a form of concentrated energy within a structure really does not apply. Second. once a BEC forms, why

Re: [Vo]:George Miley up for ARPA-E funding

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 9, 2013, at 3:58 AM, Rob Dingemans wrote: Hi, On 9-2-2013 1:19, Edmund Storms wrote: On Feb 8, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Rob Dingemans wrote: I disagree, I think Andrea already did prove his claims. The problem is only that almost nobody seems to understand what is going on. So Rob

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
The problem Eric is that once the math is solved, the expected nuclear reaction is hot fusion, not cold fusion. Consequently, this effort is a waste of time. This is something the hot fusion field needs to understand to explain the effect of bombarding materials with energetic deuterons.

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
Lou, Any theory that proposes to use tunneling based on electrons being concentrated must at the same time show how the resulting energy is dissipated. Such energy is dissipated normally by the fusion product breaking into two parts, which go off with high energy in directions required

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
as gamma rays. I have no idea what you are describing by the above comment. Ed Cheers: Axil On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Lou, Any theory that proposes to use tunneling based on electrons being concentrated must at the same time show how

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-10 Thread Edmund Storms
the process works. Ed On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com via eskimo.com 11:45 AM (15 hours ago) to vortex-l Edmund Storms writes: Yes, but all of these processes you describe are done near absolute zero while using complex apparatus

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-10 Thread Edmund Storms
http://repository.ias.ac.in/64627/1/10-pub.pdf works better 2013/2/10 Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com via eskimo.com 11:45 AM (15 hours ago) to vortex-l Edmund Storms writes: Yes, but all of these processes you describe are done near absolute zero while

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-10 Thread Edmund Storms
the basis of my naive understanding the BEC concepts for LERN. No doubt there is much more to learn and discover. Best Regards, Chuck - On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Chuck, consider these issues. First, the BEC between atoms has not been

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-10 Thread Edmund Storms
if millions or billions of fusions took place. So yes, it's hot fusion; and yes, it's cold fusion. It's nanofusion. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Chuck, we have three separate and independent questions here. First, can a BEC based

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-10 Thread Edmund Storms
Please remember, we are discussing two entirely different reactions. Hot fusion does not care about the temperature or nature of the general environment. Only the energy of individual deuterons matters. The result are fragments of helium. This reaction was initiated in plasma produced by

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-10 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 10, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: NO!!! That is not the issue Cold fusion produces He4 without radiation. ***There have been some observances of radiation. Not very much, but some. Yes, I

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-11 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 10, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Feb 10, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Storms

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-11 Thread Edmund Storms
, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Feb 10, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Storms: NO!!! That is not the issue Cold fusion produces He4 without radiation. KevinO:***There have been some

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-11 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: In the case of cold fusion, the process does not produce energetic products and the final product is an intact helium nucleus. Nevertheless, the nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-11 Thread Edmund Storms
Eric, there seems to be confusion about how energy is measured and how it is applied. Let's say that the electron identified as a k shell is removed by adding 20 keV. The source of this energy is not important. I assumed it resulted from electron bombardment and you assume it comes from

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Eric Walker wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: In either case, the deuteron does not move. The energy goes into the electron that is ejected well away from the atom. When it returns, a 20 keV photon is emitted

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Chuck, we have three separate and independent questions here. First, can a BEC based on atoms form in a lattice at room temperature. In spite of Kim, theory says this is not possible. Second, can such a cluster lead

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
The papers were posted to vortex and to an e-mail by Jed just a few minutes ago. Ed On Feb 12, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: As for my theory, I find that most people do not understand what I'm

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
many times and it simply adds energy to the process. Energy can be added by increased temperature and application of applied current, which also increases the power. This changes nothing basic about the process nor reveals how the process works. Ed On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Edmund

Fwd: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
this, the D nuclei must form a relationship within a structure (cluster) that is unique. Perhaps the BEC has the required properties, but this is not obvious based on the arguments made so far. Begin forwarded message: From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Date: February 12, 2013 3:29:09

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-12 Thread Edmund Storms
So, you accept reality as Sinha describes it. That simplifies out discussion because now we only need to learn from Sinha. Ed On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: I know how lasers can be used to cool. That is not how lasers are used when they are applied to cold fusion.

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-13 Thread Edmund Storms
: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: There is no alpha. The helium CAN NOT MOVE spontaneously. The helium contains extra energy as mass. This mass must be converted to energy before it can appear as reaction energy. The He is fixed in space

[Vo]:explaining CF

2013-02-13 Thread Edmund Storms
I would like to provide some advice to people attempting to explain LENR. This advice comes from someone who has studied the subject for the 23 years, who has an extensive background in chemistry and physics, and who has read almost every paper about the subject. I believe new ideas in

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-14 Thread Edmund Storms
will occur. I think maybe a hybrid of Chubbs' and Kim's theory could be very compelling. Specifically with the Nano scale BECs or 100 atom Bose- band states. Best Regards, Chuck On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Eric, the details do not matter. The basic

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-14 Thread Edmund Storms
. arxiv.org/pdf/1210.7086 I have posted on this elsewhere.Cheers: Axil On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Feb 14, 2013, at 12:19 AM, Chuck Sites wrote: I think you are being very dismissive of the way quantum mechanics works with in the nuclear

Re: [Vo]:Science Set Free

2013-02-14 Thread Edmund Storms
Unfortunately, he has no idea were the energy resulting from cold fusion comes from. He puts this phenomenon in the category of perpetual motion. What else has he misinterpreted? Ed On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: Rupert Sheldrake is sometimes annoying to conventional

[Vo]:Re: CMNS: explaining CF

2013-02-15 Thread Edmund Storms
described, a new idea in physics. Much of Ed's full theory is still circumstantial as to the problematic part, the assertion of a mechanism to explain the draining process. However, Ed does not do this in this paper, so I will set that issue aside, at least at first. At 08:38 PM 2/13/2013, Edmund

Re: [Vo]:Science Set Free

2013-02-15 Thread Edmund Storms
I have always been interested in how people describe a Creator. Are you claiming that the universe resulted from some super intelligent life-form getting the idea that a new universe would be an interesting project and then set about creating it? Or is the idea of a creator an abstract

Re: [Vo]:Science Set Free

2013-02-15 Thread Edmund Storms
: The laws of physics derive from a slight alteration of the perfect symmetry of nothing. Symmetry is the most fundamental principle of natural law. No much space for patchwork universe there. Giovanni On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I have always

Re: [Vo]:Science Set Free

2013-02-15 Thread Edmund Storms
Yes, but more exactly a trial-and-errorist. On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: In other words your God is an experimentalist., or what you call Nature. Harry On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I agree, but as has been noted many

Re: [Vo]:Science Set Free

2013-02-15 Thread Edmund Storms
in a defensible, scientific way. Of course, this kind of sensibility and rationality please no one - the evangelicals hate it more so than the atheists... which probably means it is as correct as human mentality can imagine. From: Edmund Storms I have always

Re: [Vo]:Science Set Free

2013-02-15 Thread Edmund Storms
Here you and I agree. I just is!! But what is it? The universe is not designed for us. We are temporary inhabants just like the dinosaurs and millions of other life-forms. What is the universe designed to do? I believe it is designed to acquire awareness. The awareness starts in the

Re: [Vo]:ANS Nuclear Cafe: Short interview with Zawodny

2013-02-15 Thread Edmund Storms
I added the following comment: The experimental approach and the intention for applying LENR in space should be be admired. The problem is with the theory being explored. This theory is flawed in so many ways, all of which have been well explained in published papers, that I’m amazed that

Re: [Vo]:ANS Nuclear Cafe: Short interview with Zawodny

2013-02-15 Thread Edmund Storms
be able to set them straight, but that will not happen if they give up too soon. Encourage them in any way that you can for now. Dave -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Sent: Fri, Feb

Re: [Vo]:ANS Nuclear Cafe: Short interview with Zawodny

2013-02-16 Thread Edmund Storms
But Eric, this is not how experimental studies work. Generally people see what they look for. For example, Swartz has a model he uses to explain what he see and he explains the behavior only in this way. Fleischmann had a model based on Preparata that provided his guidance, which lead to

Re: [Vo]:ANS Nuclear Cafe: Short interview with Zawodny

2013-02-16 Thread Edmund Storms
fingers crossed that at least one of the many cells that they are testing will not match our expectations. Dave -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Sent: Sat, Feb 16, 2013 9:25 am Subject: Re

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-17 Thread Edmund Storms
What is so unusual about this video? The meteor exploded, which sent fragments in all directions, including straight ahead as the video shows. As for shooting down an object slowing from 17000 mph in the atmosphere, where is the common sense? Ed On Feb 17, 2013, at 7:17 AM, Jones Beene

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-17 Thread Edmund Storms
it is hard for such a large shockwave to go unreported if the meteor enters over land, and by taking into account the fraction of Earth's surface that is land we can increase the expected frequency only a few fold at best. On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Edmund Storms stor

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-17 Thread Edmund Storms
Please apply some common sense. The object was too small to detect and was totally unexpected. Even if it was detected with enough time to launch a missile, why do this? Ed On Feb 17, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 3:16 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT experimental data available to selected members of the LENR research community

2013-02-17 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree, no theory will cause a Western government to provide funds for LENR research for the reasons John states in the article. However, a useful theory would allow the active conditions to be described and created. This ability would allow the effect to be replicated at will. This

Re: [Vo]:Russian meteor causes blast; hundreds injured

2013-02-17 Thread Edmund Storms
This speculation would be fun if some people were not serious. On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: Like Tunguska, it was an alien sacrifice: http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/6868/56

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