[WISPA] Netflix

2007-09-28 Thread George Rogato
Anyone else having a problem viewing the images at netflix.com? All the images are coming up broken links ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - Oct

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-09-28 Thread Sam Tetherow
http://www.netflix.com/Register looks fine to me. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless George Rogato wrote: Anyone else having a problem viewing the images at netflix.com? All the images are coming up broken links ---

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-09-28 Thread George Rogato
Are the pictures coming up for you? http://www.netflix.com/BrowseSelection?sgid=2190 Sam Tetherow wrote: http://www.netflix.com/Register looks fine to me. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless George Rogato wrote: Anyone else having a problem viewing the images at netflix.com? All the imag

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-09-28 Thread Ryan Langseth
Yup. On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 19:58 -0700, George Rogato wrote: > Are the pictures coming up for you? > http://www.netflix.com/BrowseSelection?sgid=2190 > > > > Sam Tetherow wrote: > > http://www.netflix.com/Register looks fine to me. > > > >Sam Tetherow > >Sandhills Wireless > > > > Ge

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-09-28 Thread Mark Nash
day, September 28, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Are the pictures coming up for you? http://www.netflix.com/BrowseSelection?sgid=2190 Sam Tetherow wrote: http://www.netflix.com/Register looks fine to me. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless George Rogato wrote: Anyone else having

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-09-30 Thread mliotta
> Anyone else having a problem viewing the images at netflix.com? > > All the images are coming up broken links > The images on netflix.com are hosted by a CDN, which is why your connectivity to netflix.com itself has nothing to do with the images. By chance does your company or one of your upstrea

RE: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-09-30 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix > Anyone else having a problem viewing the images at netflix.com? > > All the images are coming up broken links > The images on netflix.com are hosted by a CDN, which is why your connectivity to netflix.com itself has nothing to do with the

RE: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-09-30 Thread Brad Belton
t: Re: [WISPA] Netflix > Anyone else having a problem viewing the images at netflix.com? > > All the images are coming up broken links > The images on netflix.com are hosted by a CDN, which is why your connectivity to netflix.com itself has nothing to do with the images. By chance doe

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-09-30 Thread Matt Liotta
Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: What's the deal with cogent de-peering lately? Not sure what you are looking for outside of the depeers I already mentioned. -Matt ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-09-30 Thread Matt Liotta
Brad Belton wrote: Curious as to why Cogent would de-peer with anyone? Politics, money, etc. You're peered with LimeLight and WV Fiber? Yes, as well as a host of other content providers. -Matt ** Join us at

RE: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-09-30 Thread Zak Wolfinger
Zak Wolfinger IT Director Cyberlink International 888-293-3693 Ext 4357 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix > Anyone else having a problem viewing the images at netflix.com? >

RE: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-09-30 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 1:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: > What's the deal with cogent de-peering lately? > Not sure what you are looking for outside of

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-10-01 Thread Matt Liotta
Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: I was just curious why cogent is depeering other carriers. Wasn't there something with Level3 awhile ago, now these two and I've hear some rumors of other too. The Cogent/Level3 depeer was a big deal and hurt a lot of companies. The problem with Cogent is they use these

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-10-01 Thread Mike Hammett
ot; Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: I was just curious why cogent is depeering other carriers. Wasn't there something with Level3 awhile ago, now these two and I've hear some rumors of other too. The Cogent/Level3 dep

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-10-01 Thread Matt Liotta
Mike Hammett wrote: The Level3 depeer was caused by Level3, not Cogent. It has the same effect, but a different cause. Whoever caused it; Cogent is the one that made it painful for the entire internet. They could have rerouted traffic instead of blackholing all of Level3. The fact that they

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-10-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
neral List" Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix Mike Hammett wrote: The Level3 depeer was caused by Level3, not Cogent. It has the same effect, but a different cause. Whoever caused it; Cogent is the one that made it painful for the entire internet. Th

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-10-02 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: And what message would that send? Did you expect Cogent to jsut take it in the chin, and accept the fate LEvel3 dictated? I disagree. This was a peering contract dispute. I imagine Level3 was within their rights to cancel the contract otherwise we would have seen a lawsuit.

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-10-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
;t have good peering is a totally different topic. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:52 AM Subj

[WISPA] Netflix and TiVo

2008-10-29 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Netflix and TiVo are getting together.. more bandwidth anybody? Labor and postage gone, and we deliver it (nearly free) at the customer expense ! http://tinyurl.com/6286v8 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://s

[WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Whats the IP's to block so my customers can't use Netflix and Hulu. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ ---

[WISPA] Netflix and Akamai

2010-10-31 Thread Matt
How does Akamai determine which server/IP to stream a netflix movie from? Suppose you peer with a couple providers and you want it to go over the cheapest or biggest pipe? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.

Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo

2008-10-30 Thread Mike Hammett
it already has. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "CHUCK PROFITO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:19 AM To: "'WISPA General List'" Subject: [WISP

Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo

2008-10-30 Thread Brad Belton
move to a consumption model no different than the aforementioned. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:20 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo Netflix

Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo

2008-10-30 Thread Travis Johnson
dustry as a whole to increase prices > and/or move to a consumption model no different than the aforementioned. > > Best, > > > Brad > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO > Sent: Thursday, Octob

Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo

2008-10-30 Thread Matt
> I think the problem is until the "big boys" change, us little guys can't > change to a metered system. Right now cable, DSL, licensed WiMax, etc. > are all unlimited usage. There is no way I could change to a "pay per > byte" model without losing a ton of customers. Exactly. For those imposing

Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo

2008-10-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo > If I'm a water company the more water I sell the better. If I'm an > electric > company th

Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo

2008-10-30 Thread Scottie Arnett
"postage gone, and we deliver it (nearly free) at the customer expense !" ... make that at our expense. Usage based billing keeps looking better and better to me. Frontier, Comcast, and Time Warner are already on the bandwagon. I hear AT&T is experimenting with it too. Scottie -- Origi

Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo

2008-10-30 Thread John Buwa
Yup. We are as well. John Buwa -Original Message- From: Scottie Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo "postage gone, and we deliver it (nearly free) at the customer expense !"

Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo

2008-10-30 Thread Scottie Arnett
Who is to blame for this all you can eat fiasco? My guess would be AOL back in the dialup days. I just can't seem to believe that the telco's followed suit, of course back then, the FCC rules were a little different. I guess the buffet has spread over to the broadband times. Not much you could

Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo

2008-10-31 Thread Mike Hammett
D]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:37 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo > Who is to blame for this all you can eat fiasco? My guess would be AOL > back in the dialup days. I just can't seem to believe that the telco's > followed suit

[WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up to provide video on-demand services to all of the XBox 360 users. Not only can you start one of 12,000 videos in a matter of seconds on your computer, but you can also do this right on your Xbox 360, bringing it mainstream for

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:07, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix and Hulu. > > > It would be just about impossible to do. Netflix uses Akamai, and Hulu uses a mixture of Akamai and Limelight for "content delivery" services. These are the same con

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 12:07 -0400, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix > and Hulu. Blocking netflix by IP will block a LOT more than just netflix because their content is not coming from just their servers. Hulu uses a Macromedia Flash port (TCP po

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:07, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Whats the IP's to block so my customers can't use Netflix and Hulu. It would be just about impossible to do. Netf

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:47, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP’s just for the customers > that are abusing the service. > If you mean that they're abusing your service, you'll have to clarify what that means - the customer pays for bits to be delivered, and

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Michael Baird
st 30, 2010 12:27 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:07, Kurt Fankhauser <mailto:k...@wavelinc.com>> wrote: Whats the IP's to block so my customers can't use Netflix and Hulu. It would be just about impossible to

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any amount of bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free), so you can serve much of the Akamai content locally. Regards Michael Baird Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP'

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
You need it if you have your own IP space, for BGP. If you don't "own" your OWN public IPs, then you don't have one. - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:15 AM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Justin Wilson
: WISPA General List Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:15:45 -0400 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Interesting, whats an AS# ? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun..

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
l List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any amount of bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free), so you can serve much of the Akamai content locally. Regards Michael Baird Whats your thoughts on blockin

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Baird *Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2010 12:59 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Just contact Akamai, and give them

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2010 10:15 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Interesting, whats an AS# ? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Nick Olsen
most bandwidth intensive things around Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: "Justin Wilson" Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 1:22 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's AS #

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
quot; *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who use a good deal of bandwidth to their network. http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_program.html Basically you give them your AS (you have to be multi homed) and

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Nick Olsen
To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Does that 75 megabits also apply when you are looking to connect via a public peering point? Some CDN type networks waive or minimize those requirements if you connect via a public exchange. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Blake Covarrubias
I heard it here, Might have been on NANOG. > > Nick Olsen > Network Operations > (321) 205-1100 x106 > > > > > From: "Mike Hammett" > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 2:52 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Jon Auer
On Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM, "Blake Covarrubias" wrote: I contacted Akamai a while back about this program, and yes I believe they also told me 75mbps was the magic number. -- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:43, "Nick Olsen" wrote: > No clue, Just going f...

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Glenn Kelley
they will give it to you with much less than 75mbps best just to ask them :-) On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Jon Auer wrote: > >> On Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM, "Blake Covarrubias" wrote: >> >> I contacted Akamai a while back about this program, and yes I believe they >> also told me 75mbps was th

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Glenn Kelley
I have helped a wisp get this with 700 customers and about 30mbps I have helped another get one with about 500 customers and about 50mbps So - just ask Truth is - they want to put these in - they crave new locations like you would not believe. On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Michael Baird
Well, more like 10. The inquiry cost nothing, they will look it up and tell you if they see enough traffic from your AS to justify it or not. Regards Michael Baird On Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM, "Blake Covarrubias" > wrote: I contacted Akamai a while back about this prog

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Chuck Hogg
I've got 300+Mbps and we don't have "thousands" of customers...but we do have 1500+. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Jon Auer wrote: > On Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM, "Blake Covarrubias" wrote: > > I contacted Akamai a while back about this program, and yes I believe they > also tol

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Chuck Hogg
We have asked, and were told that they don't see enough traffic coming from our ASN. Is there someone else we can contact? Regards, Chuck On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote: > I have helped a wisp get this with 700 customers and about 30mbps > I have helped another get one w

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Hammett
How much are you passing to them? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/31/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > We have asked, and were told that they don't see enough traffic coming > from our ASN. Is there someone else we can contact? > > Regards, > > C

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 30 August 2010 12:07, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix and Hulu. > So you are no longer going to be an Internet provider, and instead just be a Hotmail and CNN.com provider? --

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Chuck Hogg
I really don't know...we haven't tracked it. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > How much are you passing to them? > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 8/31/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > > We have a

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Emailed Akamai last night. Got a response back today saying we're pulling an average of 19mbps from them, and do not meet the minimum requirement of 75mbps required to qualify for the Accelerated Network Partner program. -- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:27 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I r

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Nick Olsen
Emailed them this morning, I figure we will get a similar response. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: "Blake Covarrubias" Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:57 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISP

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Is this just to have their servers on your network or to BGP peer with them? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/31/2010 9:56 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote: > Emailed Akamai last night. Got a response back today saying we're pulling an > average of 19

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Blake Covarrubias
To place their caching servers on our network. http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_program.html -- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 31, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Is this just to have their servers on your network or to BGP peer with > them? > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligen

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Tom DeReggi
opposite coast. For example, bypassing 70ms latency required to get from East to West Coast. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, Augus

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
Our TOS is written in such that we can regulate them if they are interfering with other customers. Our problem isn't upstream bandwidth, but the wireless network (in places). We need to use Trango 900s in places, hard to educate people that their using netflix ruins the internet for X number of

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
WAIT... Is it even legal to block IP addresses??? If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias??? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Paul Gerstenberger wrote: > Our TOS is written in such that we can regulate them if they are interfering > with other customers. Our problem isn't up

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Josh Luthman
>Is it even legal to block IP addresses??? I don't think there are any laws on it at this point. It's like ESPN's service - the default policy is to block but there is an accept policy for those that pay. >If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias??? Lots of overhead, lots of DN

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:51, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor < evdo.hs...@gmail.com> wrote: > WAIT... > > Is it even legal to block IP addresses??? > Your network, your rules. Legally, you can probably block whatever you want. Doing so without informing your users (customers, for ISPs) is

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 8/31/2010 01:51 PM, Robert Kim wrote: >WAIT... > >Is it even legal to block IP addresses??? >If it is.. why dont you just block the whole domain alias??? Thankfully, there is no "net neutrality" rule preventing this. ISPs always block IP addresses. Spammers' address blocks, and ISPs who tole

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's On 30 August 2010 12:07, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Whats the IP's to block so my customers can't use Netflix and Hulu. So you are no longer going to be an Internet provider, and instead just be a Hotmail and C

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
half Of Jeremy Parr > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:46 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's > > On 30 August 2010 12:07, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix and Hulu. > > So you are no

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Tom DeReggi
you to host::-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's >Is it even legal

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeromie Reeves
to pay for content. > >  If the video content providers complain, tell them you'll give them a > revenue share if they send you a caching server for you to host::-) > > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jerry Richardson
> honeset and fair. Its already established that Consumers have been > willing > to pay for content. > > If the video content providers complain, tell them you'll give them a > revenue share if they send you a caching server for you to host::-) > > > Tom DeReggi >

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeremie Chism
established that Consumers have been willing >> to pay for content. >> >> If the video content providers complain, tell them you'll give them a >> revenue share if they send you a caching server for you to host::-) >> >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDS

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jason Bailey
My customers that run 1Mb down use it and have no trouble?Excessive bursting,then throttling will cause rebuffering after initial burst i have found. --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Jeremie Chism wrote: From: Jeremie Chism Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's To: "WISPA General List"

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeremie Chism
gt; found. > > --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Jeremie Chism wrote: > > From: Jeremie Chism > Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's > To: "WISPA General List" > Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 7:09 PM > > Under 3mb causes alot of complaints due to repeated buffeting. >

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread j2840fl
Agreed on hulu,its hungry! Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Jeremie Chism Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:30:22 To: WISPA General List Reply-To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP&#

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeromie Reeves
10 18:30:22 > To: WISPA General List > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's > > > >

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Nick Olsen
PA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Emailed Akamai last night. Got a response back today saying we're pulling an average of 19mbps from them, and do not meet the minimum requirement of 75mbps required to qualify for the Accelerated Network Partner program. -- Blake Co

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Nick Olsen
eves" Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:29 PM To: j284...@yahoo.com, "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Yea hulu is hungry. Netflix has a much better codec. I would love it if WISPA could work some kind of deal with netflix so that we could offer netfl

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeromie Reeves
*From*: "Jeromie Reeves" > *Sent*: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:29 PM > *To*: j284...@yahoo.com, "WISPA General List" > > *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's > > > Yea hulu is hungry. Netflix has a much better codec. I would love it > if WISPA cou

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Nick Olsen
) 205-1100 x106 From: "Jeromie Reeves" Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:51 PM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Yup I bet it could. Ive seen 2 of them at the same time max out a 15mbit pipe. Th

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-31 Thread Jeromie Reeves
etwork Operations > (321) 205-1100 x106 > > > > -- > *From*: "Jeromie Reeves" > *Sent*: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:51 PM > *To*: n...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" > > *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's > > > Yup I bet it c

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
g, at the expense of honorable businessmen access providers. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:45 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:20, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Who's gonna pay for that? Should I have to give up my profits this year, so > that it can be re-invested into my network once again, so Hulu and NetFlix > can continue to get rich? > If you want to keep residential customers in a competitive mar

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread Blake Covarrubias
On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Also, hosting their servers is not necessarilyl free. For example, the most > logicial place to put it might be at one's NOC. That NOC might reside at a > Colo. At $50 per U of space, that is a residual cost that you will pay. Obviously depends

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread Matt
> Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any amount of > bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free), so you can serve > much of the Akamai content locally. Do Akamai cache boxes actually cache Netflix video? I presume they cache things like PS3 updates and

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
and FIOS come. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: David E. Smith To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:2

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
han a full Rack Cabnet in Colo. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Blake Covarrubias" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread Jeremie Chism
T > yet upgraded. It means lost customers. I wish I could upgrade everything over > night, but I cant, not without money. But the more I charge today, the bigger > chance I have to earn more money to re-invest, so I'm in a stronger position > to compete when Docsis3 and FIOS come. > &

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-02 Thread Matt
> Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any amount of > bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free), so you can serve > much of the Akamai content locally. What would be nice is if you could just drop your own Squid box in on your network with a wide file si

Re: [WISPA] Netflix and Akamai

2010-10-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Probably anycast like opendns? On Oct 31, 2010 12:38 PM, "Matt" wrote: > How does Akamai determine which server/IP to stream a netflix movie > from? Suppose you peer with a couple providers and you want it to go > over the cheapest or biggest pipe? > > > ---

Re: [WISPA] Netflix and Akamai

2010-10-31 Thread Jon Auer
Here is a paper that looks into how Akamai directs traffic: http://www.aqualab.cs.northwestern.edu/publications/Ajsu06DBA.pdf When selecting providers, you could look at http://www.akamai.com/peering/ and http://bgp.he.net/AS20940#_peers to try to select someone that is close to Akamai. Beyond tha

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-11-02 Thread Matt
>    AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who use a > good deal of bandwidth to their network. > http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_program.html > > Basically you give them your AS (you have to be multi homed) and they > see if you meet the minimum bandwidth to

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-11-02 Thread Marco Coelho
Between your border router and a properly configured squid server, you can replace entire domains using wccp. It's a pain to manage, but doable. Marco On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Matt wrote: > >AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who use > a > > good deal of b

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-11-02 Thread support
has anyone been able to get squid to ease the pain of netflix /hulu /youtube ??? if yes can you give some pointers? Thanks On 11/2/2010 11:05 AM, Marco Coelho wrote: Between your border router and a properly configured squid server, you can replace entire domains using wccp. It's a pain to m

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-11-02 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:09, support wrote: > has anyone been able to get squid to ease the pain of netflix /hulu > /youtube ??? > I've played with it in the past, but never could get much out of it. I think there are two reasons for this. First, in my network, the pain is actually last-mile

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Michael Baird
I've been using the Netflix service since June, with the Roku box. It has 4 different qualities, plus 2 additional for HD which are supported only on XBox360 until the next few weeks. 500k/1100/1600/2200 for SD 2600/3600 for HD. Regards Michael Baird > In case you did not know, recently NetFlix

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Did I interpret your data correctly to mean that if you had a sustained 256Kbps it would work? - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:42 PM Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Strea

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
Yes, the HD quality is surprising good! Heck, at 1600 or 2200 the shows are real close to DVD. I watch most of it on a 40inch LCD and don't have any issues with quality! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik &

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:42 PM > Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information > > > >> In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up to >> provide video on

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Michael Baird
List" > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:42 PM > Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information > > > >> In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up to >> provide video on-demand services to all of the XBox 360 users. Not only >

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dennis Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:42 PM >> Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information >> >> >> &

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