AHJ meaning some gov't official. 'It falls to the AHJ to enforce the 12' storage height.' True
'Can an AHJ reject a plan that meets stated maximum storage height criteria because he thinks someone might exceed that?' Absolutely not, just as the police can't give you a ticket because you drive a Mustang that is capable of (far) exceeding the speed limit. 'he can ask that they remove the top shelf', absolutely not, the shelf is not an apparent violation. 'Many large box stores have lines painted on the walls to indicate maximum storage height.' True, but that's a communication tool between owner and employees, an AHJ cannot require or enforce the presence of the line. Chris Cahill, PE* Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation & Facilities Group Burns & McDonnell 8201 Norman Center Drive Bloomington, MN 55437 Phone: 952.656.3652 Fax: 952.229.2923 [email protected] www.burnsmcd.com Proud to be one of FORTUNE's 100 Best Companies to Work For *Registered in: MN -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hill Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: solid shelves in auto parts stores My first thought on seeing this was mercantile space (OH2) with miscellaneous storage of higher commodities. Depending on height and storage method this could also be OH2. Of course a lot more research needs to be done on materials and method of storage to determine if the miscellaneous storage section could be applied. IMO if it is designed for 12' storage and 12' maximum storage height is clearly called for on the drawings it is the owner/tenant responsibility to maintain 12' storage height. It falls to the AHJ to enforce the 12' storage height. Many large box stores have lines painted on the walls to indicate maximum storage height. Can an AHJ reject a plan that meets stated maximum storage height criteria because he thinks someone might exceed that? He can make it clear that 12' is the maximum storage height, he can ask that they remove the top shelf and he can let the owner/tenant know the penalty for exceeding the maximum height. The penalty, I guess, could include the closing of the store until the violation is corrected. Mike Hill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: solid shelves in auto parts stores Hello, 1) There is a PE involved 2) This is not my job, but I am trying to be a friend to the AHJ' 3) I can't readily put my hands on this due to other issues A local AHJ has called me to inquire about the requirement for protecting a major chain Auto Parts Store. The PE has stated OH2 throughout the store. AHJ is asking questions because there are 12' tall racks with a solid top making him think they will store over 12'. Questions, Are solid shelves allowed in racks aver 30" deep in this scenario without protection in the racks? Is OH@ appropriate for these "typical" Auto Parts Stores with the storage as it is? Thanks for your help if you have time, if not please ignore and have a great day! -- Greg McGahan Living Water Fire Protection, LLC <http://www.livingwaterfp.com> 1160 McKenzie Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 fax 850-937-1852 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachment s/20120816/ec9499ea/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
