Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake latest interesting features

2002-09-06 Thread David Walser

--- Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 21mdk
 - search in files in removal mode
 - right-click on packagelist window brings a very
 useful (IMHO)
   menu for expert users:
   - reset selection
   - reload lists
   - update sources
 
 22mdk
 - --changelog-first will make the maximum
 information mode
   shows the changelog before the filelist
 - --merge-all-rpmnew option will allow you to have
 the dialog to
   merge .rpmnew/.rpmsave run on all the packages of
 your system

Awesome.  Post-9.0 it'd be nice to have tabs in the
right pane for basic info, files, and changelog.

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[Cooker] allowshutdown for only root not working (+ solution)

2002-09-06 Thread David Walser

If you set in kcontrol allowshutdown to only root for
console, it doesn't take.  The reason is, is there was
a line:
AllowShutdown=All
in the [X-:0-Core] section of kdmrc that needed to be
taken out.  I'm not sure what put it there.

Some weird lines in the default kdmrc:
in [X-*-Greeter]:
DefaultUser=adm

in [X-:0-Core]:
AutoLoginUser=dadou

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[Cooker] Re: logrotate broken?

2002-09-06 Thread David Walser

--- Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  My messages file is *huge* (because of the screwed
 up
  autofs...) and there is no messages.1 or anything
 else.
 
 Do you have a /var/log/message entry in
 /etc/logrotate.d/syslog?

Yes.

 Is your cron correctly running?

Yes.

 Have you a logrotate entry in your cron.daily?

Yes.

Götz Waschk told me to try:
/usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
which exited immediately, and reported no errors to
the console or /var/log/messages, which is currently
2.2MB in size.

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Re: [Cooker] AutoInstall: no keyboard, no mouse in X

2002-09-06 Thread David Walser

--- Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Norman Cleesattel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Am Fre, 2002-09-06 um 18.27 schrieb Pixel:
   Nora Etukudo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
First, I thought my hardware is broken, but
 today I could check with
several boxes: If there is a PS/2 keyboard and
 a serial mouse at ttyS0
connected, then the generated
 'auto_inst.cfg.pl' contains
   
   :-(
   
   a PS/2 mouse is detected even if not present.
   
   workarounding this: 
 during install, don't probe PS/2 mice when a
 serial mouse is already found.
 (otherwise if a PS/2 keyboard is present, a
 PS/2 is found even if absent, and
 configuring an auxmouse PS/2 causes the PS/2
 keyboard to freeze)
   
 
  This also happens of course with a combination of
 USB mouse and PS/2
  keyboard.
 
 i can't reproduce this. It works fine here

I'm not doing autoinstall, but the combination of USB
mouse and PS/2 keyboard is fatally broken here.  It
looks like the mouse has finally been fixed (that was
just a general usb problem, I saw it in one of the
changelogs), but the PS/2 keyboard locks up when an X
server takes control of the screen.  Running toppler
or clanbomber as the owner of the X server (root
during KDM, someone logged in otherwise) unlocks it
(until you logout, or switch to a VC).

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] initscripts-6.91-3mdk

2002-09-06 Thread David Walser

--- Lonnie Borntreger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 16:48, J.A. Magallon wrote:
  Uh, I have realized a couple things...
  
  - Isn't something like breaking 'standards' that
 dm is not controlled by
init, but by chkconfig ??

Yes, but sometimes innovating is at odds with
following standards.

 Well... yes, but no.  Most Linux distros have always
 started ?dm using
 init, but Solaris uses an rc script.  So it's not a
 standard, just a
 Linux has always done that.

Yep, an init script that starts after everything, so
it serves no useful purpose.  I guess Sun was too lazy
to configure two runlevels :o)

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Re: [Cooker] [Fwd: Typo in license agreement]

2002-09-06 Thread David Walser

--- Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Adam Williamson wrote on Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at
 11:03:32PM +0100 :
  
  glass is nearly full up and no-one will bat an
 eyelid. (Is *that* a UK
  phrase too? :)
 
 bat an eye is common in the US.

Yes, but doesn't it mean expressing interest?  I think
here he would say raising an eyebrow.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] initscripts-6.91-3mdk

2002-09-06 Thread David Walser

--- Teemu Torma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 07 September 2002 02:02, David Walser
 wrote:
   Well... yes, but no.  Most Linux distros have
 always
 
   started ?dm using
   init, but Solaris uses an rc script.  So it's
 not a
   standard, just a
   Linux has always done that.
 
  Yep, an init script that starts after everything,
 so
  it serves no useful purpose.  I guess Sun was too
 lazy
  to configure two runlevels :o)
 
 No, Solaris uses init.d script, and thus is
 configurable by runlevel, 
 just like cooker.

I know.  Have fun setting up runlevel 5.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] initscripts-6.91-3mdk

2002-09-06 Thread David Walser

--- Lonnie Borntreger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 19:20, David Walser wrote:
   No, Solaris uses init.d script, and thus is
   configurable by runlevel, 
   just like cooker.
  
  I know.  Have fun setting up runlevel 5.
 
 Well, considering that 3 and 5 are the same, except
 for X, it makes
 perfect sense to just add the dm startup to run
 level 3 - especially if
 you don't use a font server.

I meant on Solaris.

 OTOH, since Solaris steps through the run levels
 to the target run
 level, adding a higher run level is easy... all you
 have to add is the
 new service to start in that run level.

Oh yeah, that's right.  /me shuts up now :o)

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Re: [Cooker] [RC1]

2002-09-06 Thread David Walser

--- Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Le sam 07/09/2002 à 00:15, Tom Whiting a écrit :
 
  As far as the fix, I noticed that myself, and,
 thought I tried that (maybe I 
  didn't restart apache or somethin, either way).
 I'll go back through and try 
  to re-upgrade. I'm assuming the php rpms in cooker
 have this fix in them 
  then?
 
 Yes, the rpms in cooker have this fix.
 
 The only problem is that we use %config(noreplace),
 so upgrading will
 not fix the problem, unless you remove the package
 completely and
 reinstall it.

Or upgrade it with rpmdrake!  I did that this morning
and got the rpmsave viewer for php.ini

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Re: [Cooker] ispell

2002-09-09 Thread David Walser

--- Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Valéry Raulet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  shouldn't
 
  ispell-br-0.2.1-7mdk.i586.rpm
 
  be
 
  ispell-br-0.2.1-7mdk.noarch.rpm
 
 ispell files're indeed arch independant but aspell
 ones are not.
 as both ispell-br and aspell-br come from the same
 package, they've to
 be arch specific.

It won't let you use a BuildArch line in a specific
package's section in the spec file?

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[Cooker] keyboard still dead

2002-09-09 Thread David Walser

I'm on current Cooker now (new kernel and XFree86 and
all).

One other bit of info. I don't think I've given
before, when I ssh in and run toppler to unfreeze the
keyboard, stuff I had typed before then gets spit out.

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Re: [Cooker] To restore Mandrake Menu

2002-09-10 Thread David Walser

Have you tried logging out and logging back in?  Does
that fix it?

Are you waiting until update-menus finishes after you
install a package before looking at the menu??  ps axf
is your friend.

--- Austin Acton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah, something has happened with the menu system.
 It used to be flawless.  Add or remove rpm, and the
 menu was almost
 instantly updated.  Now when I install an rpm,
 sometimes is lose half
 the entries, sometimes I just lose the icons, and
 sometimes the new icon
 just doesn't show up until I run update-menus.
 Weird.
 
 Austin
 
 
 On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 00:51, David Walluck wrote:
  'update-menus -n' as root should fix it, but, that
 is true, every 
  package using the menu system seems to break the
 menus.
  
  crazy mand wrote:
  
  It seems to me that Install Software breaks
 Mandrake
  Menu b/c I just installed ssh using Install
 Software
  again, and that broke the Menu. 
  
  --- crazy mand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  I posted that the menu went crazy after
 installing
  mozilla packet. I restored it using menudrake. I
  started menudrake thru run command (luckily it
  remained on the menu), and saved. The menu
 restored
  as
  It was before
  
 
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Re: [Cooker] Tuxkart Not Working Properly

2002-09-10 Thread David Walser

It happened in 2mdk too.  I hoped rebuilding it would
fix it, but it didn't.  It works fine if you rebuild
it on Mandrake 8.x

Later today I'll try building it with the new version
of plib and see if that fixes it.

--- Crispin Boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
 
 on my tuxkart (0.1.0-4mdk) when you start the game
 Tux and his kart just 
 plummet downwards through the track - why is this?
 
 nVIDIA (29.60) drivers loaded and working, XFree86
 4.2.1, Mesa 4.0.3-6mdk
 
 Cheers
 cris.
 
 

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[Cooker] update-menus completely broken

2002-09-10 Thread David Walser

113-mdk

It deletes /dev/null (!!)
and I think it gets killed when you exit rpmdrake.

Also, after running it by hand (as root of course) and
doing cd /dev;MAKEDEV null to get /dev/null back, my
KDE menu (which was gone) came back, but it's not
showing the most frequently launched items above the
menu anymore.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: bad string in DrakX.po for OSS

2002-09-10 Thread David Walser

Fixing the acronym shouldn't break translations.

--- Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is also a typo availlable in this file.
 
 But since the deadline for translations is very
 close, maybe the english 
 string for OSS should not be changed, but only the
 translations. (to 
 avoid setting every translation to fuzzy when
 changing the english string)
 
 
 
 Christophe Combelles wrote:
  In Drakx.po :
  
  The string
  OSS (Open Source Sound)...
  should be replaced by
  OSS (Open Sound System)...
  
  (see http://www.opensound.com)
  
  
  regards
  Christophe
  
 
 

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Re: [Cooker] Tuxkart Not Working Properly

2002-09-10 Thread David Walser

--- Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:19:15 +0100
 Crispin Boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  on my tuxkart (0.1.0-4mdk) when you start the game
 Tux and his kart
  just plummet downwards through the track - why is
 this?
 
 Do you have the Neutronium texture installed, but
 not Penguin Black? Perhaps 
 he became too heavy for the snow/ice/rock beneath
 him to support because his 
 texture defaulted to Neutronium in the absence of
 Penguin Black.
 
 /kidding

Hmm, then I want to know what texture the Gown's Bow
track (which works) is using, and I wanna get me some
of that stuff!  :D

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Re: [Cooker] Tuxkart Not Working Properly

2002-09-10 Thread David Walser

--- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:19:15 +0100
 Crispin Boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  on my tuxkart (0.1.0-4mdk) when you start the game
 Tux and his kart
  just plummet downwards through the track - why is
 this?
  
  nVIDIA (29.60) drivers loaded and working, XFree86
 4.2.1, Mesa
  4.0.3-6mdk
 
 I have the same behavior but only with only with Tux
 Tollway.
 No problem with the other courses.

That's correct.

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Re: [Cooker] Tuxkart Not Working Properly

2002-09-10 Thread David Walser

Has anybody reported this to Steve Baker?

--- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:49:22 +0100
 Crispin Boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  it appears that tuckart-0.20 has been released  
 
 
 Tux Tollway still exhibits the same behaviour in
 0.2.0
 
 
 Charles
 
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Re: [Cooker] Still a problem with urpmi and athlon built packages.

2002-09-11 Thread David Walser

--- François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François Pons)
 writes:
 
  Kenton Groombridge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
   main::(-e:1):   1
 DB1 x $a = new URPM
   0  URPM=HASH(0x831bef8)
  'depslist' = ARRAY(0x831bf4c)
   empty array
  'provides' = HASH(0x831bd84)
   empty hash
 DB2 x
 $a-parse_rpm(libjs-1.1-8mdk.athlon.rpm);
   0  0
   1  0
 DB3 x $a-{depslist}[0]-is_arch_compat;
   0  0
  Ok this means arch is unknown for rpm itself, I
 look more precisely for that.
 
 Yes, it is badly declared in /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc
 where you have :
 buildarchtranslate: athlon: i586
 instead of i686, can you test it should work if you
 edit it to i686.

Could we have this fixed in the rpm package?  As has
been pointed out in the past, anyone creating packages
for Mandrake or for distribution would have their own
.rpmrc to translate to i586, for the system one it
should compile for the system.

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Re: [Cooker] RC2: Emu10k1 4 speaker support?

2002-09-11 Thread David Walser

--- Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 alsa driver. has
 anybody tested with emu10k1 sound card recently ?

I will once the keyboard freezing in X problem is fixed.

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[Cooker] Xnest partially broken (indirect queries)

2002-09-11 Thread David Walser

If you try to use Xnest to do an indirect xdmcp
connection to another machine, it just flashes at you
and sometimes you get errors in the terminal like
this:
AUDIT: Wed Sep 11 16:45:56 2002: 11296 Xnest: client 2
rejected from IP 131.118.50.239 port 36779

All the while just using X instead of Xnest works.

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Re: [Cooker] Strange mouse icons persistant using kdemenu RC2

2002-09-11 Thread David Walser

--- Tulear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When you launch mozilla or galeon from kdemenu,
 after mozilla/galeon 
 start you still have :
 - the small icon attach to mouse running
 - 2 mozilla/galeon icons in the taks bar
 
 After about 30' it stops ... (same with eroaster,
 xcdraost)

Same with a *lot* of programs.  I am seeing this quite frequently.

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[Cooker] one more kdm thing (allowshutdown)

2002-09-12 Thread David Walser

AllowShutdown=Root still doesn't work because
AllowShutdown=All still appears in the [X-:0-Core] section.

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Re: [Cooker] autofs tries to mount /home/lmontel on startup

2002-09-12 Thread David Walser

Now this has changed to trying to mount /home/lmontel.
 Interesting...maybe the problem has something to do
with KDE?

--- David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 and it keeps trying over and over and spams
 /var/log/messages:
 Sep  1 17:58:05 dijkstra automount[3605]: attempting
 to mount entry /home/baudens
 Sep  1 17:58:05 dijkstra automount[5373]:  mount:
 claude:/export/home/baudens failed, reason given by
 server: No such file or directory
 Sep  1 17:58:05 dijkstra automount[5373]:
 mount(nfs):
 nfs: mount failure claude:/export/home/baudens on
 /home/baudens/
 
 This was repeated many times (156 at one count),
 later
 interspersed with:
 Sep  1 17:57:41 dijkstra kernel: lockd: cannot
 monitor
 131.118.50.239
 Sep  1 17:57:41 dijkstra kernel: lockd: failed to
 monitor 131.118.50.239
 
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[Cooker] ypbind fails on boot

2002-09-12 Thread David Walser

Fresh installation.
You get green OKs during the boot, but then it's not
working, and service ypbind status shows:
ypbind dead but pid file exists
but if you just do service ypbind start
it works from then on out.

The only thing I can think is maybe it's trying to
start too early in the boot, before something it needs.

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Re: [Cooker] keyboard still dead

2002-09-12 Thread David Walser

Fresh installation.  So far, keyboard is
working...I'll let you know if this changes.

--- David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm on current Cooker now (new kernel and XFree86
 and
 all).
 
 One other bit of info. I don't think I've given
 before, when I ssh in and run toppler to unfreeze
 the
 keyboard, stuff I had typed before then gets spit
 out.
 
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Re: [Cooker] Alan

2002-09-12 Thread David Walser

--- Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Todd Lyons wrote:
  Daouda LO wrote on Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 12:21:49PM
 +0200 :
 Could you repost in english please ?
   
Daouda, that's the way it appears in the
 MandrakeExpert
site.  Alan just copied and pasted it into the
 Cooker
ML.
  
   I know, but cooker is in english and i think
 Alan should
   not forward non-english messages. Otherwise it
 won't be
   read.
 
  Good point.  We'll remember that from now on. 
 Alan, before
  pasting those messages, take a look and if it's
 not
  English, I guess don't post it.
 
  Blue skies...   todd
 
 I don't think that it's a good point at all.  There
 are many 
 people on this list who read and write in more than
 just 
 English (I'm however, not one of them).  
 
 I don't make any value judgements concerning the
 reports that 
 I forward.  I simply pass all of them that show up
 on 
 mandrakeexpert on, so that the material in them is
 where it 
 is supposed to be (here, the cooker list) for the
 developers 
 to have access to it.  The developers can then make
 their own 
 value judgements about the material.  
 
 I will continue to do just that.

aka, waste people's time and bandwidth

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[Cooker] GTK Theme Switch problem

2002-09-12 Thread David Walser

I pick Marble3D and I get in .gtkrc:
include (null)/Marble3D/gtk/gtkrc

which doesn't work, instead of:
include /usr/share/themes/Marble3D/gtk/gtkrc

which does.

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[Cooker] New tuxkart and plib up

2002-09-12 Thread David Walser

I've finally uploaded the new tuxkart and plib to
ftp.linux-mandrake.com/incoming

Sorry it took so long, it's been a busy week.

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[Cooker] Wrong Control Center in Kicker

2002-09-12 Thread David Walser

Users used to get a KDE Control Center link by
default, now they get a drakconf one.  It is useless
and confusing to all users that aren't the sysadmin
(everything from home environments, to large networked
environments).  They can at least do something with
the KDE Control Center.

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Re: [Cooker] snd-emu10k1 still problematic

2002-09-13 Thread David Walser

I agree with grousse actually (I've also asked for
this before), that the sound thing in summary be
clickable.

It looks your code does that, and runs draksound if
you click it.  I'm not sure what the isa_sound_card
stuff does.  Just running draksound is really cool
there though.

What'd be even cooler is the ability to Test (this is
probably post-9.0 fodder).  Some way you could see you
have OSS and ALSA choices, and you can click here and
it'll load the OSS module, play some sound, unload the
module, then click here and load the 100 ALSA modules,
play some sound, unload them, and pick which one you
like.  Shouldn't be too hard, I guess the biggest
issue would be getting sound playing ability into
DrakX.

--- Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Installer should support both oss and alsa drivers
 when possible.
 
 something like this ?
  Index: install_steps_interactive.pm

===
 RCS file:

/cooker/gi/perl-install/install_steps_interactive.pm,v
 retrieving revision 1.678
 diff -u -3 -p -r1.678 install_steps_interactive.pm
 --- install_steps_interactive.pm  2002/09/12 22:48:25
 1.678
 +++ install_steps_interactive.pm  2002/09/13 09:37:10
 @@ -1025,7 +1025,10 @@ sub summary {
  { label = _(ISDN card), val =
 $_-{description}, clicked = sub {
 $o-configureNetwork } }
   } grep { $_-{driver} eq 'hisax' }
 detect_devices::probeall()),
  (map { 
 -{ label = _(Sound card), val =
 $_-{description} } 
 +{ label = _(Sound card), val =
 $_-{description}, clicked = sub {
 +require harddrake::sound; 
 +harddrake::sound::config($o, $_)
 +} }
   } @sound_cards),
  if_($isa_sound_card, { label = _(Sound
 card), clicked = $isa_sound_card }), 
  (map {
 

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Re: [Cooker] snd-emu10k1 still problematic

2002-09-13 Thread David Walser

--- Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just had opposite returns from a 8.2 user: oss
 driver was awful, while alsa 
 driver was a bit more correct.

Interesting.  The emu10k1 in Cooker is a good bit
newer though.  Have you tried OSS/ALSA in Cooker for
emu10k1?

 Installer should support both oss and alsa drivers
 when possible.

I've asked for this before, forgot to this time.  See
my other message.

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Re: [Cooker] RC2: gabber overwrites archive files, not appends

2002-09-13 Thread David Walser

Unless Mandrake patched Gabber to cause this behavior,
it's a Gabber bug and should be reported to its
author(s).

--- Damon Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Gabber should be appending to it's archive, not
 overwriting what ever is
 there.  RC2 Gabber keeps only the archive of the
 most recent chat,
 instead of accumulating them by adding to the file
 as in 8.2 and 8.1
 etc.
 
 thanks!
 Damon
 
 
 

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Re: [Cooker] Weird rpmdrake problems

2002-09-17 Thread David Walser

Alas, the new urpmi/grpmi/gurpmi/rpmdrake didn't fix
it :o(  What can I do to force urpmi to download newer
hdlists?

--- David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ok, so /var/cache/urpmi's subdirs are empty.  I go
 to
 update sources, and see (I added hyphens):
 
 examining synthesis file
 [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD
 (http1).cz]
 examining synthesis file
 [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Contrib CD
 (http2).cz]
 retrieving description file of Installation CD
 (http1)...
 retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of
 Installation CD (http1)...
 --10:28:16-- 

http://luigiwalser.homeip.net//contrib/cooker/cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz
= `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.cz'
 Resolving claude... done.
 Connecting to claude[131.118.50.239]:3128...
 connected.
 Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
 Length: 14,953,031 [text/plain]
 Server file no newer than local file
 `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.cz' -- not
 retrieving.
 
 ...retrieving done
 examining synthesis file
 [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD
 (http1).cz]
 retrieving description file of Contrib CD
 (http2)...
 retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of Contrib
 CD
 (http2)...
 --10:28:16-- 

http://luigiwalser.homeip.net//contrib/cooker/cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
= `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist2.cz'
 Resolving claude... done.
 Connecting to claude[131.118.50.239]:3128...
 connected.
 Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
 Length: 6,307,081 [text/plain]
 Server file no newer than local file
 `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist2.cz' -- not
 retrieving.
 
 ...retrieving done
 examining synthesis file
 [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Contrib CD
 (http2).cz]
 examining synthesis file
 [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD
 (http1).cz]
 examining synthesis file
 [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Contrib CD
 (http2).cz]
 
 
 so it thinks the ones on the server aren't newer,
 but
 that's not true, they are newer.  So I delete the
 files except for compssUsers.flat in /var/lib/urpmi
 and try to update sources but get:
 
 unable to inspect list file for Installation CD
 (http1), medium ignored
 unable to inspect list file for Contrib CD
 (http2),
 medium ignored
 retrieving description file of Installation CD
 (http1)...
 retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of
 Installation CD (http1)...
 ...retrieving failed: 
 retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
 no hdlist file found for medium Installation CD
 (http1)
 examining synthesis file
 [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD
 (http1).cz]
 problem reading synthesis file of medium
 Installation
 CD (http1)
 retrieving description file of Contrib CD
 (http2)...
 retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of Contrib
 CD
 (http2)...
 ...retrieving failed: 
 retrieve of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed
 no hdlist file found for medium Contrib CD (http2)
 examining synthesis file
 [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Contrib CD
 (http2).cz]
 problem reading synthesis file of medium Contrib CD
 (http2)
 unable to inspect list file for Installation CD
 (http1), medium ignored
 unable to inspect list file for Contrib CD
 (http2),
 medium ignored
 --
 
 the source is on a webserver on my machine elsewhere
 on the network, and I can reach it just fine with a
 web browser, so that's not the problem.  I can't
 tell
 exactly what's going on here, and I can't update my
 sources :o(
 
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Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.19.11mdk-1-1mdk with problems

2002-09-17 Thread David Walser

Fixed in 12mdk

--- Luis Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 kernel-2.4.19.11mdk-1-1mdk
 
 After installing kernel-2.4.19.11mdk-1-1mdk
 my network connection adsl connection didn't work
 any more
 
 and when executing
 depmod -a
 I get depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in ide-scsi
 module
 
 To fix all these problems I switch back to
 kernel-2.4.19.9mdk-1-1mdk
 and everything was ok again.
 
 -- 

-
 Luis Alves
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 YM: lafa_home ICQ:5061305 AOL:lalvesnet
 Imici:lafa_work
 other:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 other:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 DB2Everyplace:
 http://www.ibm.com/software/data/db2/everyplace/
 
 
 

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Re: [Cooker] ypbind fails on boot

2002-09-17 Thread David Walser

Has anyone looked into this?  I did a bit...looking at
messages after booting, I see:

Sep 17 08:45:15 mccarthy ypbind: ypbind startup
succeeded
Sep 17 08:45:15 mccarthy ypbind[977]: Unable to
register (YPBINDPROG, YPBINDVERS
, udp).

then later:

Sep 17 08:45:07 mccarthy network: Setting network
parameters:  succeeded 
Sep 17 08:45:07 mccarthy network: Bringing up loopback
interface:  succeeded 
Sep 17 08:45:07 mccarthy ifup: Determining IP
information for eth0... 

and:

Sep 17 08:45:13 mccarthy dhcpcd[890]: dhcpConfig:
ioctl SIOCADDRT: File exists  
Sep 17 08:45:13 mccarthy ifup:  done. 
Sep 17 08:45:14 mccarthy network: Bringing up
interface eth0:  succeeded 

I think you get the idea.  rc5.d shows an S10network,
and an S17ypbind, but from the log, it looks like
ypbind is getting started before network.  Possible
initscripts problem?

Looking into it further, it *appears* that running
concurrently with rc.sysinit are some of the startup
scripts in rc5.d, like usb, gpm, and ypbind, but
network is going later than all of these.

--- David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fresh installation.
 You get green OKs during the boot, but then it's not
 working, and service ypbind status shows:
 ypbind dead but pid file exists
 but if you just do service ypbind start
 it works from then on out.
 
 The only thing I can think is maybe it's trying to
 start too early in the boot, before something it
 needs.
 
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Re: [Cooker] ypbind fails on boot w/out portmap (portmap description problem)

2002-09-17 Thread David Walser

--- Quel Qun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I answered your message asking a question:
 Do you have portmap service enabled?
 # chkconfig --list portmap should show it on.

Nope, that fixed it.  Thanks Quel!!!

Now...!  Could the description in /etc/init.d/portmap
that says The portmap server must be running on
machines which act as servers for protocols which make
use of the RPC mechanism be fixed?  If you're an NIS
client, you're not an NFS or NIS server, so that
description leads you to believe you don't need
portmap.

 If you look at the time tags, you will see that the
 network is
 started at 08:45:14, and ypbind one second later.
 The fact that they show up in a different order in
 the syslog is
 a minor issue (buffering I would guess), but is not
 the cause of
 your problem.

BOO!  Stupid me :o(

 ypbind works fine here.
 One more thing I remember, check that NISDOMAIN is
 set in
 /etc/sysconfig/network. It is surely set since you
 can start the
 service later on.

Yeah it is.  Thanks again!

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Re: [Cooker] autofs + NIS problem

2002-09-17 Thread David Walser

--- Bryan Whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Walser wrote:
  Problem:
  Even if you don't have nis in the automount: line
 in
  /etc/nsswitch.conf, automount uses NIS.
 
 This is standard behavior. (NIS on Solaris and other
 Unix's do this)

They don't differentiate between NIS and NIS+?  Well
luckily NIS+ is going away then.

 This way one can have a nis server export an
 auto.master file so one 
 doesn't have to modify every client machine on the
 network when a change 
 to the auto.master file happens.

Yeah I know how that works.

 If your nis server does not export an auto.master
 file then you won't 
 have a problem. If it does, but you need a different
 auto.master file 
 for your autofs on linux, then remove nis and
 nisplus from 
 nsswitch.conf. Autofs will still work with
 nis/nisplus/yp maps but it 
 will not autoload the auto.master from your nis
 server.

Know that too.  I'm just saying one shouldn't have to
remove nisplus when all you have is nis.  In case
you're interested in the reason I need different maps
on the Linux machines, it's because the NIS maps say
to use cachefs for /home, which only works on the
Solaris workstations.  The Linux kernel people have
considered implementing it in the past, but never did
:o(

 This should not be changed, then nis on linux would
 be further different 
 from other unix's.

Unix has a bug, so Linux should have it to.  Linus
doesn't buy that, and I don't either.

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Re: [Cooker] Any chance Apache RPM dist could be built with support for FTP upload?

2002-09-17 Thread David Walser

What about mod_dav ???

--- Jerome Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To the builders of the Apache RPMs - is there any
 chance you could build it in such a manner that the
 FTP upload capability could be suported by enabling
 a module, instead of having to recompile the entire
 kit from source?
 
 Thanks - 
 Jerry
 

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Re: [Cooker] mozilla updown

2002-09-18 Thread David Walser

--- Alastair Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 13:30, Damon Lynch wrote:
 
  Oh no!  We should have reported it earlier :( 
 What are your font
  settings?  Mine are standard.
 
 Standard, although the problem is not severe (it
 takes quite a bit of
 effort, and big expanses of text, to catch the
 problem)
 
 Again, this weak video card made me assume it was an
 artefact :(

What's your weak video card?  I've seen Mozilla do
this on my Riva TNT, I don't think it's a video card
dependent bug though.

It's also not serious, just annoying.  I'm sure it'll
get fixed eventually.

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[Cooker] Tons of printerdrake problems

2002-09-18 Thread David Walser

First, without asking, it installs:
libijs0, printer-filters, nc, foomatic, scli,
gimpprint, printer-utils, and xpp, whether you need
them or not.  Also it does this in 3 (!) steps.  It
should wait until you've configured a printer, and
only install the ones you need for it to work.

Then, if you turn all the auto-detection off, and go
to add a printer, it assumes it's a local printer, and
doesn't give you the choice of it being a remote lpd
printer or anything else.

Finally, after adding a printer, going back and
changing it to remote network printer, and trying the
test page, I got lots of garbage.  It's an HP LaserJet
4, which I selected.  I probably should have just
selected PostScript, but I remember older
printerdrakes selecting postscript for you if you
select a PS-capable printer.

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[Cooker] one more printerdrake thing

2002-09-18 Thread David Walser

it leaves little empty windows all over the place

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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] DrakX-9.0-1mdk

2002-09-18 Thread David Walser

--- Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Name: DrakX   
 Summary : Wonderfull source of wonderfull DrakX

You probably don't care, but it's spelled wonderful. 
And yes it is wonderful :o)  Putting it into a package
was a wonderful idea also.

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Re: [Cooker] Graphical corruption?

2002-09-18 Thread David Walser

--- Sitsofe Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What's your weak video card?  I've seen Mozilla do
  this on my Riva TNT, I don't think it's a video
 card
  dependent bug though.
 I think you might be talking about mozilla bug
 120280. I have been seeing 
 some sort of courrution for sometime on this bug
 both Linux and Windows.
 
 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120280
 
 Is this the sort of corruption other people are
 seeing?

No.

It's using the arrow keys to scroll up and down and
seeing the text get messed up.  Pageup/down fixes it.

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Re: [Cooker] Butt-ugly emacs...Xresources problems

2002-09-19 Thread David Walser

in 2.4.4-62mdk some Xresources that were screwing up
Tk were taken out, recently some have been added that
are screwing up Tk again, differently this time
though.  I've looked at the Xresources files, but it's
not obvious this time what's causing it.

Maybe Flepied will know offhand, ::shrug::

If you want any more info/descrption or screenshots,
lemme know.

--- Tobias Ringstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Tobias Ringstrom wrote:
 
  Hello!
  
  Please get rid of the default emacs color scheme
 in Mandrake 9.0rc2.  
  It's hideous, does not resemble any other
 application, and it's hard to
  get rid of since it's both in the files
 /etc/X11/Xresources and
  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Emacs (from
 emacs-X11-21.2-12mdk). RedHat
  had the same color scheme a long time ago, but
 they have dropped it.
 
 Argh.  It's in /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources as well. 
 Does it never end?
 
 /Tobias
 
 

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Re: [Cooker] /usr/X11R6/bin/DrakConf screwed with todays sync

2002-09-20 Thread David Walser

--- Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  The file contains 
  #\!/bin/sh\nexec /usr/bin/mcc
 
  And is also now executable
 
 thanks, fixed (sh needs passing -e to echo unlike
 full bash)

?

[djw9202@mccarthy djw9202]$ sh
[djw9202@mccarthy djw9202]$ echo \n
\n
[djw9202@mccarthy djw9202]$ echo -e \n


[djw9202@mccarthy djw9202]$ exit
[djw9202@mccarthy djw9202]$ bash
[djw9202@mccarthy djw9202]$ echo \n
\n
[djw9202@mccarthy djw9202]$ echo -e \n


[djw9202@mccarthy djw9202]$ exit

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Re: [Cooker] drakgw

2002-09-20 Thread David Walser

--- Florin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 for some compatibility reasons with the dhcp wizzard
 ... the default
 configuration is now to set the internal LAN to
 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0
 and not to 192.168.0.0/255.255.255., as before.
 
 Ths internal IP address is now 192.168.1.1 and not
 192.168.0.1 as before
 :o)

BOO!!!  :o(

Can you explain?  What's wrong with the DHCP wizard? 
Can't it just be fixed.

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Re: [Cooker] RC3 Bugs (second try)

2002-09-20 Thread David Walser

Run draksound.  I think RC3 still uses the problematic
ALSA module by default, this still hasn't been fixed
AFAIK.

--- Alan Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Yep, the new initscripts worked. Now just have to
 get my SOundBlaster Live
 working (correct module, worked in 8.2, not in RC3).

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Re: [Cooker] cardbus support problems

2002-09-21 Thread David Walser

I have a friend running RC2 with a DFE-670TXD, and
it's not locking up, but we can't get the network
working either.  We found out that the xircom_cb
module loads (tulip doesn't, it's non-pcmcia, and
xircom_tulip_cb doesn't), and we put that in
modules.conf, and set up
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 by hand
since none of the drakey tools would do it, and
service network start shows eth0 OK, but it still
doesn't work, there's no route for it and stuff.

--- J. Greenlees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 get minor error loading window manager sessions,
 insmod error.
 figured out the cause is a lack of support for the
 cardbus pcmcia nic.
 
 D-Link DFE-680TX
 the specs from the card:
 
 *   Network Interface Specification*
 
 * IEEE 802.3 10BASE-T standard 10BASE-T CSMA/CD
 LAN.
 * IEEE 802.3u 100BASE-TX standard 100BASE-TX
 CSMA/CD LAN.
 * 20/200Mbps full duplex support.
 * Auto-Negotiation between all four-operation
 modes.
 
   *Host Interface and
   Physical Specifications*
 
 * CardBus PC Card Standard complaint.
 * Type II PC Card form factor.
 * 3.37 x 2.128 x .197 (86mm x 54mm x5.0mm)
 * 40gw in weight
 
 
 it literally causes a complete lock-up when either
 rebooting or shutting 
 down. every boot has unclean unmount with a
 significant number of disk 
 errors.
 
 the card runs under the tulip module, for network /
 internet access, but 
 it is only half working. I literally switched to a
 3com pcmcia nic to 
 clean up the problem.
 
 I know, won't make it in time for release date. (
 going to take a stab 
 at figuring out a driver for it over the next while,
 maybe for 10 I can 
 have it ready )
 
 

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Re: [Cooker] RC3 Bugs (second try)

2002-09-21 Thread David Walser

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 21 Sep 2002, Alan Hughes wrote:
 
  Sorted it out last night, although I use HardDrake
 to set the OSS driver. I
  think that ALSA just does not support SoundBlaster
 Live properly (along with
 I disagree, because it works fine for some other
 people.
 David may say it doesn't work but that is only
 because he gets artifacts 
 on his specific systems.
 ALSA drivers work fine on most SBLives. But there

What about all of the many other people on this list
reporting problems completely different from my own?

 are a few different 
 kinds, and YMMV. Some people like ALSA better,
 because it supports more
 features and is the best maintained. I hope David
 will report the 
 artifacts to alsa-devel, so they are fixed in the
 next version.

To this point you haven't asked me, or the numerous
other people reporting problems to report something to
alsa-devel.  I'm 100% willing to do so, what info. can
I give them to be the most helpful to them?

Unfortunately a lot of the other people who reported
problems probably aren't still watching this list.

 Alan, it would be better to figure out why it was
 not working on your 
 setup, because you did not really explain. If it was
 that you did not
 hear sone on your rear channel than it is a mixer
 configuration issue, 
 which I hoped would be fixed, but you can always
 manually set your mixer 
 correct.

A simple fix, that applies to some of the other people
who've had problems too.  Don't you think we should a)
fix the default ALSA mixer values so they're not
screwed up out of the box, or b) use OSS by default
until we can manage to do a)?

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hot-babe-0.1.0-1mdk

2002-09-21 Thread David Walser

see bottom

--- Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 21 Sep 2002, Adam Williamson wrote:
 
  On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 04:41, Digital Wokan wrote:
   I just remembered after sending this that they
 don't officially support
   contribs anyway, so why be worried about what
 shows up there, as long as it
   isn't under an incompatible license.
 
  Because of appearances. It's in some sense linked
 to MandrakeSoft - it's
  hosted on their servers, for a start. Not
 supported isn't exactly
  relevant.
 
 
 And they ship it on CDs and DVDs.

I thought Mandrake wasn't shipping Contrib anymore

:o( to that BTW

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[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] apc-gui-1.0.3-1mdk

2002-09-21 Thread David Walser

Maybe you should say somewhere in the description here
which APC it's referring to.  Aka, Alternative PHP
Cache, and not American Power Conversion Corp. (ala
apcupsd).

--- Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [Contrib-RPM]
 
 --=-=-=
 Name: apc-gui 
 Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 1.0.3
 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 1mdk  Build
 Date: Sat Sep 21 20:50:58 2002
 Install date: (not installed)   Build
 Host: klama.mandrake.org
 Group   : System/ServersSource
 RPM: (none)
 Size: 56135   
 License: GPL
 Packager: Oden Eriksson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL : http://apc.neuropeans.com/
 Summary : View the APC cache over the web.
 Description :
 APC GUI is an add on for APC to provide a
 comprehensive, easy to
 use and of course good looking web-based GUI. APC
 GUI not only
 gives access to statistical parameters of APC, it
 also makes it
 easier to administer web-servers running apc by
 providing
 comfortable features for restarting the cache and
 deleting scripts
 from the cache.
 
 --=-=-=
 
 * Sun Sep 22 2002 Oden Eriksson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.0.3-1mdk
 
 - initial cooker contrib
 - install in common and relocatable %{webadminroot}/
 directory
 
 -- 
 http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3
 

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 Codename

2002-09-21 Thread David Walser

--- Jure Repinc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the codename for 9.0 release?
 8.1 was vitamin
 8.2 was bluebird
 9.0 will be ?

gcsayseverybodysux?  :o)

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Re: [Cooker] New Apache 2 Questions/Issues

2002-09-21 Thread David Walser

--- Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Le sam 21/09/2002 à 00:30, Yura Gusev a écrit :
   Or you could come to Montreal ;-)
  Are you planing to make party after 9.0 release?
 Maybe we can go and play
  paintball?
 
 Forget about paintball ;-) Last year, Mandrake was
 beaten up by Syspark
 at paintball, and it took me like two months for the
 marks to
 disapear...
 
 But beer doesn't leave marks though ;-)

But what you do under its influence may... :o)

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 final when ?

2002-09-21 Thread David Walser

--- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Start paying attention.  9.0 was supposed to be
 released last week.  It
 got pushed back a week to fix an issue.  But you're
 arguing that we
 should delay it so we can fix some guys error where
 the kernel doesn't
 think he has a PS/2 mouse port and nobody else has
 seen this issue.  For
 all we know fixing his issue will break something
 for a huge group of
 people.  
 
 Sometimes fixing things for one thing will break
 things for other
 people.  Take for instance the machines that don't
 turn themselves off.
 Apparently this has something to do with the
 Mandrake kernel not having
 ACPI support in it.  But if we enable ACPI support

I don't think that's the reason, in fact I'm pretty
sure it's not.  I think it was an update to some
package like maybe util-linux or modutils or
something.  I had thought it was the kernel, but
2.4.18/19 (no ACPI support) work fine on the mostly
8.1 machines of my parents and sister, but doesn't on
mine with slightly more Cooker.

Anyway, I'm gonna try to figure it out sometime. 
Probably December.

 then other people
 will have even worse problems.
 
 Face it.  There will be bugs and there will be
 tradeoffs.  Mandrake does
 the best that they can.

I agree with everything else you say.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 final when ?

2002-09-21 Thread David Walser

--- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 07:59:21PM -0700, David
 Walser wrote:
  I don't think that's the reason, in fact I'm
 pretty
  sure it's not.  I think it was an update to some
  package like maybe util-linux or modutils or
  something.  I had thought it was the kernel, but
  2.4.18/19 (no ACPI support) work fine on the
 mostly
  8.1 machines of my parents and sister, but doesn't
 on
  mine with slightly more Cooker.
  
  Anyway, I'm gonna try to figure it out sometime. 
  Probably December.
 
 Well people with those machines have reported that
 enabling ACPI in
 their kernel's usually fixes their problems.  But I

yeah, that might work if you have a machine that
actually supports ACPI

 personally haven't
 tried it.  I don't really care I'm not so lazy that
 I can't press the
 power button.

hehe

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 final when ?

2002-09-21 Thread David Walser

--- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 11:03:09AM +0800, Leon
 Brooks wrote:
  Perhaps we can do a `9.0Q Download Edition' which
 is Cooker from a week or 
  fortnight after release? (-: Q as in Quiet or
 Quiescent :-)
 
 Isn't that what mandrakefreq and updates are for?

Well 8.2 really stabilized in Cooker a few weeks after
release, but you couldn't have gotten to that just
from updates.

And AFAIK you should have referred to mandrakefreq in
the past tense.  It was a good idea though, maybe it
will come back.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 final when ?

2002-09-22 Thread David Walser

--- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 08:35:27PM -0700, David
 Walser wrote:
  Well 8.2 really stabilized in Cooker a few weeks
 after
  release, but you couldn't have gotten to that just
  from updates.
  
  And AFAIK you should have referred to mandrakefreq
 in
  the past tense.  It was a good idea though, maybe
 it
  will come back.
 
 Okay isn't that what the club RPMS are for? :P

Is it?  I thought that was for commercial apps.

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Re: [Cooker] drakgw

2002-09-22 Thread David Walser

--- Florin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Walser) writes:
 
  --- Florin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   for some compatibility reasons with the dhcp
 wizzard
   ... the default
   configuration is now to set the internal LAN to
   192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0
   and not to 192.168.0.0/255.255.255., as before.
   
   Ths internal IP address is now 192.168.1.1 and
 not
   192.168.0.1 as before
   :o)
  
  BOO!!!  :o(
  
  Can you explain?  What's wrong with the DHCP
 wizard? 
  Can't it just be fixed.
 
 I don't see where is the problem ?
 You can use the advanced option and choose
 192.168.0.1 ...

Ok, that's good.  Didn't want to have to redo my whole
DNS and DHCP configs.

 I don't understand your rude BOO thing ...

Not trying to be rude.

Really though, could the DHCP wizard possibly be fixed
to not necessitate that change?  Do you know?

 have a nice day,

You too Florin.  You've done a great job.

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 final when ?

2002-09-22 Thread David Walser

--- tom447 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I agree completely. I just volunteered my entire
 Summer
 introducing Mandrake 8.2 to our local school system.

Awesome!  I might do that in a few years.

 I have stuck my neck out for Mandrake... as have
 other people
 in the school system here. PLEASE don't ship 9.0
 unless it's
 STABLE.

I agree with this sentiment.

 And please stop making massive changes to
 basic admin
 tools like RPMDrake. It worked wonderfully well for
 us in 8.2.
 Now, as far as I'm concerned, it's sadly broken.

You have got to be kidding.  rpmdrake was completely
broken and unusable in 8.x, and if it worked for you
at all you were quite lucky.  The old one needed to be
run through the shredder and burnt.  The new one is
great (it actually works!), and GC (the author) has
been very responsive to interface gripes/suggestions. 
I don't remember hearing you talk about tree views
before, there was plenty of opportunity to get your
suggestions in.  If you explain yourself better, maybe
post-9.0 rpmdrake can get it (which you could still
use on 9.0), but don't yell at us because it's too
late for 9.0.

I do lament changes to things like printerdrake and
connection sharing that seem to have worked better in
8.x though.

PS - take the Reply-To: out of your mail client, I
almost sent the response to just you, in fact the list
has probably already missed a couple replies because
of that.

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Re: [Cooker] GNOME theme not showing when gnome apps in KDE are used

2002-09-22 Thread David Walser

--- Brian Craft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Themes settings done in GNOME using Themes dialog
 are restricted to GNOME
  environment. They are not propagated when GNOME
 applications are started
  in other environments..
 
 Is this new in Mandrake 9?  In 8.2 the GNOME theme
 would show in the 
 application (PAN, Galeon,gftp, ect..) while being
 run in KDE.

Interesting, I'm not sure I believe fcrozat's answer
either :o)

Check and see what files with names starting with
.gtkrc you have in your home directory.  I'm not 100%
this is what it's for, but I've seen a .gtkrc-kde
before, and maybe it uses that (if it exists) when
running under KDE and .gtkrc otherwise?  If so, maybe
deleting that would do the trick.

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Re: [Cooker] Just installed 9.0 RC 3 and found some problems

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

--- jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LICQ (KDE) does not load (but the plain licq does)
 when clicked it sits in the task bar like its
 loading, but then disappears.
 The other loads fine.

Works for me.  What if you start it from a terminal,
what does it say?

licq -p kde-gui

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.0 RC3 installation adventure part 2

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

On my 8.x box I have it partitioned similarly to his
(/boot is seperate too though), and between / and
/boot, only 71-72MB is used.  I did make / 703M, but
that was definately way more than needed.

--- Richard Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Don't forget /lib, /opt, /tmp, /root, and /boot too!
 
 You also have the damger of accidentally writing to
 a non-mounted
 directory and getting some garbage in /mnt.  I know
 for /boot alone, I
 often use 35MB just for different situations
 (openmosix kernel, acpi
 kernel, stock kernel, upgraded kernel, cooker
 kernel, etc)
 
 | forgot /bin and /sbin  :-) think that will reach
 your 94 meg limit very
 | quick and break all kind of things.
 |
 | - Original Message -
 | From: Rob Halff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 7:25 AM
 | Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.0 RC3
 installation adventure part 2
 |
 |
 |
 |Are u sure 94 meg for / is enough !?
 |this means the contains of /etc /lib have to be
 smaller then 94 meg.
 |
 |I think you should be a little more generous with 
 your space overthere.
 |
 |greetings,
 |
 |Rob
 |
 |- Original Message -
 |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 4:38 AM
 |Subject: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.0 RC3 installation
 adventure part 2
 |
 |
 |
 |Same system as my last message:
 |My system is a home-built EPOX 8KHA/1.4
 Athlon/768 Meg ram/100gig
 |
 | WD1000BB
 |
 |My partition table looks like this:
 |94 meg /
 |94 meg (future)
 |94 meg (future)
 |94 meg (future)
 |200 meg /boot
 |380 meg /swap
 |Remaining is LVM
 |LVM:
 |4 gig /usr
 |4 gig /var
 |4 gig /home
 |
 |
 |Preface:  Since my previous installs didn't work,
 I decided to try a new
 |tack.  I installed a fresh 8.2 installation,
 working from the first CD
 |alone.  I then tried an Upgrade, and ended up
 with another 5 installs
 |
 |(0. - I have a usbmouse and using an auto config
 floppy, doesn't
 |
 | configure
 |
 |the mouse properly again.  Even in 8.2.  This
 seems to be reproducible,
 |unlike everything else)
 |
 |The first three were tried with the
 Expert/Upgrade option.
 |1. - Hung during the find partitions step on
 /dev/hdb6.  So I reboot
 |2. - This time it makes it past all the
 partitions, and I select the
 |/dev/hda1 partition to upgrade.  As it is reading
 the RPMs from the 8.2
 |install, I get this message on the console tty.
 |rpmdb: damaged header instace #202 retrieval,
 skipping
 |It doesn't really skip it, it just loops over and
 over again. Reboot
 |again.
 |3. - Makes it farther.  Kernel panic on checking 
 /usr partition (in the
 |LVM)
 |
 |The Fourth install was expert/upgrade packages
 option
 |4. - This time it upgrades, and I finish the
 installation.  I reboot.
 |
 | Then
 |
 |the fun begins.
 |a.  during startup init.d/usb gives a message
 about expr not found.
 |b.  X doesn't start, and it starts up at a
 console a la Runlevel 3
 |c.  I try startx to manually bring up X.  No
 luck.
 |libglx.a is unresolved.
 |d.  That is in XFree86-server, and I try a verify
 that works, but the
 |
 | file
 |
 |is definetly not there.
 |e.  I remove XFree86 and XFree86-server, and then
 reinstall them.
 |f.  my usb mouse is not activated, which makes X
 not so much fun.  I try
 |
 | a
 |
 |reboot, still nothing.
 |g.  I bring up X and use mousedrake.  I'm able to
 select the wheel
 |
 | mouse,
 |
 |and restart X.  Now the mouse works again.
 |h.  I notice that rpmdrake and MandrakeUpdate
 don't work because URPM.so
 |is having a problem loading librpm-4.0.4 (that's
 close to the name, I
 |didn't write it down.  oops).  I figure out that
 the upgrade didn't
 |
 | update
 |
 |rpm.
 |i.  I try to manually install rpm.  It has a long
 list of dependencies,
 |but I get them all and the install starts.
 |j.  Bad.  Not all of the rpms fail, but enough
 do: rpm,
 |
 | libstdc++5-devel,
 |
 |kernelheaders, libbinutils2, binutils, gcc,
 gcc-c++.  These complain
 |
 | that
 |
 |there are MD5 sun mismatch with cpio.
 |k.  not rpm doesn't even recognize -qilp as an
 option.  Ugh.  It's
 |
 | hosed.
 |
 |Now I can't do anything.
 |l.  In exasperation, I shutdown.  The shutdown
 fails during umount.
 |m.  I hit the reset button.
 |
 |Overall, I'm really glad I decided to not mess
 with my existing year old
 |8.2 installation.
 |
 |Scott Carlson
 |
 |PS.  I don't subscribe to the list. No time at
 this point. :(
 | I am willing to try and answer questions if
 I can help
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 
 
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Re: [Cooker] Athlon XP still recognized as i586 !

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

There's two issues here.

1) RPM still can't recognize athlon, so you have to
buildarchtranslate i686 to athlon.

2) Mandrake still has incorrect buildarchtranslate
lines in /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc and i686 is being
translated to i586 instead of i686.

--- Stéphane Teletchéa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did some recompilation of src rpm (nvidia), and
 they are still compiled for 
 i586 ...
 
 Stef
 

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Re: [Cooker] /usr/X11R6/bin/DrakConf screwed with todays sync

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

--- Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 tv@vador ~ $ /bin/sh -c echo -e 'A\nB'
 A
 B
 tv@vador ~ $ /bin/sh -c echo 'A\nB' 
 A\nB

[walser@mario walser]$ sh -c echo 'A\nB'
A\nB
[walser@mario walser]$ sh -c echo -e 'A\nB'
A
B
[walser@mario walser]$ bash -c echo 'A\nB'
A\nB
[walser@mario walser]$ bash -c echo -e 'A\nB'
A
B

I'm still not seeing a difference between sh and bash.

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Re: [Cooker] CRITICAL: 9.0rc3 shutdown fails

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

Do you really need *all* of those services?  Certainly
you don't need both amd and autofs.

Anyway, I see lots of errors, but nothing critical.

I'm using autofs in my lab, and I get lots of
similarly, and it works mostly fine (except a
bajillion attempts by the system to access
non-existent /home/lmontel...)

--- Sergei Zuyev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The same was present in rc2 but not in beta4 (I
 didn't try rc1):
 Machine does not shut down hanging on the following
 message:
 
 /etc/rc6.d/K75netfs: line 154 /sbin/fuser -k -m $sig
 $remaining /dev/null
 umount: can't get address for oka
 umount2: Device or resource busy
 umount: /net device is busy
 
 Here are two extracts from /ver/log/messages:
 When booting:
 
 Sep 20 14:44:27 oka mount.smbfs[1164]: [2002/09/20
 14:44:27, 0] 
 client/smbmount.c:send_fs_socket(383) 
 Sep 20 14:44:27 oka mount.smbfs[1164]:  
 mount.smbfs: entering daemon mode for 
 service \\kalitka\public, pid=1164 
 Sep 20 14:44:27 oka netfs: Mounting file system SMB:
  succeeded
 Sep 20 14:44:27 oka netfs: Mounting other file
 systems:  succeeded
 .
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1741]: Map support for:
 root, passwd, ldap, union, 
 nisplus, nis, ndbm, file, error.
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1741]: AMFS: nfs, link,
 nfsx, nfsl, host, linkx, 
 program, union, inherit, ufs, 
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1741]:   lofs, cdfs,
 auto, direct, toplvl, autofs, 
 error.
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1741]: FS: autofs, iso9660,
 lofs, nfs, nfs3, tmpfs, 
 ext2.
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1741]: Network:
 wire=192.168.0.0 
 (netnumber=192.168).
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1741]: My ip addr is
 192.168.0.3
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: released controlling
 tty using setsid()
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: file server
 localhost, type local, state starts 
 up
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hda5 restarted
 fstype link on /
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: none restarted fstype
 link on /proc
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: none restarted fstype
 link on /dev
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: none restarted fstype
 link on /dev/pts
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hda9 restarted
 fstype link on /home
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: none restarted fstype
 link on /mnt/cdrom
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: none restarted fstype
 link on /mnt/cdrom1
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: none restarted fstype
 link on /mnt/floppy
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hdb13 restarted
 fstype link on 
 /mnt/old_home
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hdb8 restarted
 fstype link on 
 /mnt/old_root
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hdb9 restarted
 fstype link on /mnt/old_usr
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hdb11 restarted
 fstype link on 
 /mnt/old_usr_local
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hdb1 restarted
 fstype link on /mnt/win_d
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hdb5 restarted
 fstype link on /mnt/win_e
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hdb6 restarted
 fstype link on /mnt/win_f
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hdb7 restarted
 fstype link on /mnt/win_g
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hda1 restarted
 fstype link on /mnt/windows
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: none restarted fstype
 link on /mnt/zip
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hda6 restarted
 fstype link on /usr
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /dev/hda8 restarted
 fstype link on /usr/local
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: //kalitka/public
 restarted fstype link on 
 /mnt/smb
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd: using configuration file
 /etc/amd.conf
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: initializing amd.conf
 map /etc/amd.net of type 
 file
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: first time load of
 map /etc/amd.net succeeded
 Sep 20 14:44:50 oka amd[1742]: /etc/amd.net mounted
 fstype toplvl on /net
 Ñåí 20 14:44:50 oka amd: amd starting succeeded
 Sep 20 14:44:51 oka automount[1820]: starting
 automounter version 4.0.0, path 
 = /misc, maptype = file, mapname = /etc/auto.misc
 Sep 20 14:44:51 oka automount[1820]: using kernel
 protocol version 4
 Sep 20 14:44:51 oka automount[1820]: using timeout
 60 seconds; freq 15 secs
 Sep 20 14:44:52 oka automount[1844]: starting
 automounter version 4.0.0, path 
 = /net, maptype = program, mapname = /etc/auto.net
 Sep 20 14:44:52 oka autofs: automount starting
 succeeded
 
 When shutting down:
 
 Sep 21 01:23:13 oka amd[1742]: reload of map
 /etc/amd.net is not needed (in 
 sync)
 Sep 21 01:23:13 oka amd[1742]: amq says flush cache
 Sep 21 01:23:13 oka amd[1742]: reload #2 of map
 /etc/amd.net succeeded
 Sep 21 01:23:13 oka amd[1742]: amq says flush cache
 Sep 21 01:23:13 oka amd[1742]: reload #3 of map
 /etc/amd.net succeeded
 Sep 21 01:23:13 oka amd[1742]: ignoring timeout
 request for active node /net
 Sep 21 01:23:13 oka amd[1742]: amq says flush cache
 Sep 21 01:23:13 oka amd[1742]: reload #4 of map
 /etc/amd.net succeeded
 Sep 21 01:23:13 oka amd[1742]: amq says flush cache
 Sep 21 01:23:13 oka amd[1742]: reload #5 of map
 /etc/amd.net succeeded
 Sep 21 01:23:13 oka amd[1742]: ignoring timeout
 request 

Re: [Cooker] Athlon XP still recognized as i586 !

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

--- Stéphane Teletchéa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  because you aren't really compiling the driver,
 the driver is in binary
  form, you only compile the code which glues the
 driver to the kernel..

Correct, the GLX is already compiled, just being
repackaged, and the kernel module ignores your
RPM_OPT_FLAGS anyway.

 I agree that, but wonder why the rpm is written is
 /usr/src/RPMS/RPM/i586 
 instead of /usr/src/RPMS/RPM/i686 or
 /usr/src/RPMS/RPM/athlon ?

If the e-mail I sent an hour ago ever shows up, it
explains it.

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Re: [Cooker] /usr/X11R6/bin/DrakConf screwed with todays sync

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

--- Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I'm still not seeing a difference between sh and
 bash.
 
 well, i'm right in theory whereas you're right in
 practive :
 sysv sh does expand backslash-escaped characters by
 default (aka
 without -e) which simplified bash (aka /bin/sh)
 should have follow.

Ahh yes, you're absolutely right.  On Solaris, the
/usr/bin/echo binary also doesn't need -e (maybe sysv
sh doesn't have echo builtin and uses that?).  bash's
echo annoys me.  No wonder I use /usr/bin/echo in all
my scripts on Solaris :o)

 but i used zsh for too long that i forgot we didn't
 --enable-xpg-echo-default by default as i did in the
 old days.

ahh

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Re: [Cooker] Athlon XP still recognized as i586 !

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

Seems my first e-mail fell down a well.

--- Stéphane Teletchéa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  rpm -ba -buildarch athlon --sign nvidia.spec
 
 
 Funny 
 
 I wonder why it is not DEFAULT ???

There's two issues here:

1) RPM can't recognize Athlon, it recognizes it as
i686, so if you have an Athlon you have to
buildarchtranslate i686 to Athlon, which you can do in
/usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc

2) Mandrake still has incorrect buildarchtranslate
lines in the system /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc, translating
everything to i586.

So unless someone fixes the RPM arch detection code
itself, you have to deal with issue #1 yourself by
editing rpmrc.  Issue #2 someone at Mandrake needs to
fix at some point.

 As i previously said, it is may be normal, since
 every package is for i586.

Yes, but those are compiled by packagers in their home
directories with their own .rpmrc

 I was just wondering whether this is a normal
 behavior or not.

Halfway, but not totally.

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Re: [Cooker] Athlon XP still recognized as i586 !

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

--- Gregory K. Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 23 September 2002 10:11, David Walluck
 wrote:
  It's definitely wrong. Just because Mandrake is
 built for i586 doesn't
  mean we want to force every arch to i586 (or
 i686). In the case of
  Athlon, it may actually be a downgrade.
 Personally, I force mine to
  build for athon in my ~/.rpmrc, but it'd be nice
 to see a fix system-wide.
 
 I think for the system wide rpmrc, it is on purpose
 in Mandrake.  For 
 stability sake, wouldn't they want anybody
 rebuilding source rpm's to use the 
 same compiler optimizations used to build the main
 distro.  That is, unless, 
 those people new what they were doing and made a
 /etc/rpmrc for or ~/.rpmrc 
 with the desired overrides.

It was actually changed by mistake, but that's been
one of the excuses to defend it.  If someone's gonna
rebuild an SRPM, more than likely optimization one of
the top reasons.  Anyway, /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc is the
*system* rpmrc, and so should build for the *system.* 
The only ones that should be building i586 are
Mandrake's packagers, and anybody else distributing
binaries, and those people are supposed to be building
in their home directory with their own .rpmrc

One possible solution I've thought of is maybe
distribute our RPM package with a script that
automates setting up a user RPM build environment, and
when it creates the .rpmrc, has it change the
buildarchtranslate lines to i586 like they are now
(but shouldn't be for the system one).

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Re: [Cooker] problem with xircom_tulip_cb

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

This sounds exactly like what one of my friends is
having happen to him.  How did you get it to work? 
What's /etc/modules.conf look like now?

--- pop pivot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a strange behaviour with a xircom PCMCIA
 card.
 thanks to lspcidrake -v it is:
 xircom_tulip_cb : Xircom|Cardbus Ethernet 10/100
 [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:115d device:0003
 subv:115d
 subd:1181)
 xircom_cb   : Xircom|Cardbus Ethernet + 56k
 Modem
 [COMMUNICATION_SERIAL] 
 So the module loaded should be xircom_tulip_cb, but
 in
 lsmod I have only this:
 Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
 isofs  25652   1  (autoclean)
 inflate_fs 17892   0  (autoclean)
 [isofs]
 udf85472   0  (autoclean)
 sg 31276   0  (autoclean)
 (unused)
 st 26740   0  (autoclean)
 (unused)
 sr_mod 15096   0  (autoclean)
 (unused)
 sd_mod 11788   0  (autoclean)
 (unused)
 scsi_mod   90372   4  (autoclean) [sg st
 sr_mod sd_mod]
 ide-cd 28712   1  (autoclean)
 cdrom  26848   0  (autoclean)
 [sr_mod
 ide-cd]
 floppy 49340   0  (autoclean)
 snd24804   0 
 soundcore   3780   0  [snd]
 xircom_cb   5544   1 
 ds  6828   2 
 yenta_socket9728   2 
 pcmcia_core42272   0  [ds yenta_socket]
 af_packet  13000   0  (autoclean)
 nls_cp850   3580   2  (autoclean)
 vfat9588   2  (autoclean)
 fat31864   0  (autoclean) [vfat]
 nls_iso8859-15  3356   5  (autoclean)
  ntfs   72908   1  (autoclean)
 supermount 15076   2  (autoclean)
 usb-uhci   21676   0  (unused)
 usbcore58304   1  [usb-uhci]
 rtc 6560   0  (autoclean)
 ext3   74004   2 
 jbd38452   2  [ext3]
 
 But I am sure that my network card is up and working
 as I am able to send this e-mail. ifconfig gives me:
 eth0  Lien encap:Ethernet  HWaddr
 00:10:A4:93:7A:29  
   inet adr:XBcast: 
 Masque:XXX
   UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST 
 MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:33424 errors:0 dropped:0
 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:12617 errors:0 dropped:0
 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 lg file transmission:100 
   RX bytes:22482209 (21.4 Mb)  TX
 bytes:1015178 (991.3 Kb)
   Interruption:11 Adresse de base:0x4000 
 
 Finally modeprobe xircom_tulip_cb gives me this:
 
 modprobe xircom_tulip_cb

/lib/modules/2.4.19-13mdk/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia/xircom_tulip_cb.o.gz:
 init_module: No such device
 Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect
 module
 parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
   You may find more information in syslog or the
 output from dmesg
 modprobe: insmod

/lib/modules/2.4.19-13mdk/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia/xircom_tulip_cb.o.gz
 failed
 modprobe: insmod xircom_tulip_cb failed
 
 I do not know where the problem comes from but
 drakconnect sometimes fails due to this weird
 behaviour.
 
 
 
 

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Re: [Cooker] Athlon XP still recognized as i586 !

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

--- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The problem you run into is some people building
 RPMs aren't going to
 know this and will end up distributing i686 or
 Athlon or whatever
 archs...  

From the package names you get, it's obvious which
arch the build is for.  If you were to distribute
something with .i686.rpm, you would know it was i686,
and if that's ok, that's great.  If not, you rebuild
it for the arch you want to distribute for.  Most
people are going to be building for the local (or
other identical) machine however.

 But yeah for the few people that rebuild stuff

You're assuming it's few.

 locally for their arch
 it's probably inconvient.  But I tend to think of
 those people as power
 users and they can handle make a few directories and
 a couple files with
 their specific configs in there.

Then you're thinking wrong.  It's not hard for even
semi-newbies (basically those who get to the stage
that they can read a manpage) to figure out how to
rebuild packages.  It's definately not a gurus only thing.

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Re: [Cooker] Athlon XP still recognized as i586 !

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

--- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The problem you run into is some people building
 RPMs aren't going to
 know this and will end up distributing i686 or
 Athlon or whatever
 archs...  

Oh, one more thing I wanted to add.  *If* that script
I mentioned that creates an RPM build environment in
your home directory actually existed, this would be
much less of a problem even still, because people that
intended to distribute RPMs would just have to run it
once, then build their RPMs as user.

I'll start a seperate thread later on what a script
like this would entail.

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Re: [Cooker] Athlon XP still recognized as i586 !

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

--- Todd Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Walser wrote on Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at
 05:44:09AM -0700 :
  
  2) Mandrake still has incorrect buildarchtranslate
  lines in the system /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc,
 translating
  everything to i586.
 
 It's a
 standard.  You as the

FOR MANDRAKE'S DEVELOPERS

 sysadmin are free to change the default to anything
 that you want or to
 override the default in your ~/.rpmrc or to override
 the default at the
 commandline.

You as Mandrake packagers are *already* building in
your home directory with a .rpmrc, you should be
changing things there.  The *system* version of rpmrc
should be building for the *system*

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Re: [Cooker] warning: gcc3.2 ignores -fomit-frame-pointer, silently

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

Are you 100% sure?  The patch from kernel 2.4.18 to
2.4.19 has this:

 CFLAGS := $(CPPFLAGS) -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes
-Wno-trigraphs -O2 \
- -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing
-fno-common
+ -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common
+ifndef CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER
+CFLAGS += -fomit-frame-pointer
+endif

--- Guido Draheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It seems the gcc3.2 ignores -fomit-frame-pointer,
 without
 giving any diagnostics about it. I had noticed it
 with
 some of my software *breaking* because of that as
 some
 assembler parts were trying to access %ebp then.
 
 This may affect the mdk9 *kernel* itself - usally
 the
 linux kernel should be compiled with
 -fomit-frame-pointer,
 and a quick dissassemble-check on some
 modules/drivers
 showed a standard stackframe now. Perhaps some other
 option
 enforced a standard stackframe but traditionally it
 means
 that the kernel is *slowed* down in this mode.
 
 Are no-omit-frame-pointer/use-standard-stackframe
 intentional? It is atleast beyond my expections, so
 I'm issuing it as a warning-flashlight - I haven't
 found notice of it in general gcc docs, so is that
 only a behaviour of the mdk gcc3?
 
 $ gcc --version
 gcc (GCC) 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.0 3.2-1mdk)
 
 -- cheers, guido  (not subscribed to
 cooker ML)
 
 

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Re: [Cooker] RC3 crashes at Freeing unused kernel memory / 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Installation

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

Um...we (the subscribers to the Cooker list) already
got GC's message...

--- Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 forwarded to originator of report.
 
 when replying, please cc this email address:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 --  Forwarded Message  --
 
 Subject: Re: [Cooker] RC3 crashes at Freeing unused
 kernel 
 memory / 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Installation
 Date: 23 Sep 2002 15:26:10 +0200
 From: Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [Cooker] RC3 crashes at Freeing unused kernel memory / 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Installation

2002-09-23 Thread David Walser

--- Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yes but the subscribers to the Cooker list did not
 yet have 
 the originator of the report's email address (and he
 is not a 
 yet a subscriber).  

Ahh, sorry, I missed that.  Thanks then.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] apache2-2.0.42-1mdk

2002-09-25 Thread David Walser

--- Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On onsdagen den 25 september 2002 14.49 Lonnie
 Borntreger wrote:
  On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 04:42, Oden Eriksson wrote:
I'm confused.  Who's maintaining apache2?  I
 thought someone else was
now.
  
   ASF the source, me and J-M Dault these apache2
 rpm packages for now,
   unless MandrakeSoft explicit forbids me to.
 
  Ummm, I meant the rpms not the source.  I was just
 checking to make sure
  that you and J-M weren't sending conflicting
 packages.  If it's a team
  effort then I'll be quiet and let you be on your
 merry way.
 
 As we live in different timezones it's a little
 tough to be totally in sync. I 
 guess I'm ahead in time and J-M just woke up or
 something like that. One 
 should at least allways rsync to get the latest
 stuff before doing anything.
 
 As it is now I made a small mistake with the latest
 apache2 package that I'm 
 correcting right now.

I'm guessing that'll be followed by apache2-mod_php
:o)  rpmdrake is telling me I need a new one

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 and next

2002-09-25 Thread David Walser

Sounds like something more useful for Shoemaker to do.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's an idea you might like.
 A lot of inexperienced users throw some pretty
 crappy bug reports onto the
 cooker list.  We don't have enough info to figure it
 out, and Mandrake people
 probably don't have enough time to answer them all. 
 If none of us (volunteers)
 try to help these people out, they just get ignored.
  I see a LOT of I got
 ignored or this is the third time I've reported
 this bug posts.  Maybe you
 (Mandrake people) could make up a form-letter type
 response, and make a policy
 that all bugreports get answered, even if the answer
 is just a form-letter
 saying something like:
 -we got your report
 -we want your report
 -we can't figure out what is happening to you
 -please read the cooker faq
 -please send us a more detailed report (hardware,
 example case, logs... etc)
 That way, newbies to the list won't feel ignored and
 they can learn.  Then they
 can join us.  Then we will be indestructable and we
 will take over the world...
 Austin
 

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Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread David Walser

--- Eric Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually the contrib CD has never been downloadable
 as an iso, but as 

Actually there were contribs on CD3 in 8.1 and 8.2 at
least, stuff like tuxkart and squirrelmail.  It'd be a
shame if no ISO with contrib stuff (at least contrib
stuff that's been in previous versions' ISOs) wasn't
released, because now people are upgrading with those
packages installed, and they're either breaking or
removing them in the process, and they have no ability
to upgrade them.

 separate packages in a contrib sub-directory in the
 distribution 
 directory (there was one in the 8.2 directory) The
 question is if it 
 will be available in the 9.0 directory ?

A 9.0 needs to be cut obviously, because Cooker
Contrib is compiled for Cooker, and eventually that
won't work for 9.0.

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Re: [Cooker] LM9.0 Download Edition (Contrib ISO?)

2002-09-26 Thread David Walser

--- Lenny Cartier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 12:04:07PM +0200, Buchan
 Milne wrote:
  I presume the contrib tree will be copied across
 to stable later, but 
  when? Is it worthwhile making small fixes to
 packages in contribs now? 
  Will new packages (just got cdbakeoven compiling,
 thus it just went in 
  last night) make it into 9.0 contrib?
  
  Lenny?
 
 Contribs have been forked to make an extra cd for
 powerpacks. So maybe
 we can put this content under the 9.0 tree; but it's
 not the whole
 contribs repository, just some subjective choices...

That'd be a shame, there's some good stuff in contribs
that never made the CDs, it'd be too bad if people
could have all that good stuff to add to 9.0.  And
actually, if they can't, what's the point of contrib? 
Just something for us few Cookers?

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[Cooker] interesting bash function idea

2002-09-26 Thread David Walser

I know we have scripts that set up stuff in people's
environments by default, maybe something like this is
worth adding:
showconf() { egrep -v ^# $1 | egrep -v ^$ ;}

a lot of times (say on this list) Mandrake people want
to know what someone has in a certain config file, and
of course they don't need to see the blank and
commented lines, so they could just ask the user to
run: showconf filename

Just a thought.

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Re: [Cooker] old autoconf? why?

2002-09-27 Thread David Walser

It shipped with both, which is clear if you look at
the package list, the reason has been discussed
several times on this list, check the archives.

--- Kim Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi 
 Why is Mandrake 9.0 shipped with the old Autoconf
 2.13 and not one of
 the newer 2.5x versions? 
 
 
 
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 will go through a
 Email  : kim @ schulz.dk   | period of
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 install - no hdlist2.cz- Do these disks work or not?

2002-09-27 Thread David Walser

--- Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you look at the structure of the mirrors you will
 see that there is 
 no such thing as cooker contribs - just contribs

au contrare (yes I spelled that wrong), from a mirror
that has Mandrake-old, we see 8.2 contrib
http://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-old/8.2/

and Cooker Contrib is under Mandrake-devel

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Re: [Cooker] courier-imap and squirrel-mail configurations...

2002-09-29 Thread David Walser

Generally there's nothing to configure for the imap
server, it should just work.  The users are the Unix
users on the machine.

SquirrelMail is configured to work with imap-2001a out
of the box because that works the best (courier is
kinda flaky, as you see).  It does have presets for
other imap servers that you can switch to in one fell
swoop.

cd /var/www/squirrelmail/config
perl conf.pl

look through there, you should see a place in server
settings or something to work with courier imap.  If
you have no luck, try imap-2001a.

--- Gary Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 could some one talk me through the config of these
 two packages off list? I'm 
 getting stumped with incorrect passwd responses from
 the login.
 
 Thanks for the help before hand,
 
 -- 
 Gary Greene 
 
 
 
 Sent from seele.gvsu.edu
  11:50pm  up 22:04,  5 users,  load average: 0.48,
 0.22, 0.12
 
 

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 --changing the code of the Virtual Human Brain FS
 Driver for the Human OS
 Mounting /dev/brain0 is still causing problems...   
 
 
 
 Here's the error:   
 
 
 
 #mounting local
 filesystems[
 OK ]
 #Virtual Human Brain Driver v0.0.5 (EXPERIMENTAL)
 R/W fs module  
 #Virtual Nerve Node Driver v0.4.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) R/W
 FS module   
 #Insmod Adaptive Technology Device
 module..[ OK ]
 #Writing Sync state to Journalled
 VHBFS[ OK ]
 #Stating

emotiond..[
 FRUSTRATED ]
 Segmentation Fault:sending signal 11 SegEV  
 

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Re: [Cooker] MORE INFO: Re: [expert] Mdk 9.0: nspluginscan crashed, DCOPserver not running

2002-09-29 Thread David Walser

Sounds like a PATH problem.  Are you using KDM?  Do
you have these lines in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc?

SystemPath=/usr//bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
UserPath=/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin

--- gonfer gas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well i've tried some things that i found on the
 internet. I'm sending the files that have the
 messages
 that i've recieved when i used dcopserver --nosid
 (file: log.txt) and startkde (logs2.txt). About
 the
 nspluginscan, i modified the /usr/bin/startkde ,
 commenting the line that has the nspluginscan call.
 well that should be all for now, i'll wait your
 answers.
 Thanks
 
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 [gonzalo@maxwell gonzalo]$ dcopserver --nosid
 _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should
 be set to root
 sh: line 1: iceauth: command not found
 DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed
 Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the
 authentication protocols specified are supported and
 host-based authentication failed
 ICE Connection rejected!
 
 DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed
 Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the
 authentication protocols specified are supported and
 host-based authentication failed
 DCOPServer self-test failed.
 ICE Connection rejected!
 
 sh: line 1: iceauth: command not found
 [gonzalo@maxwell gonzalo]$
 
  
 [gonzalo@maxwell gonzalo]$ startkde
 /usr/bin/test-windows-key: line 5: xmodmap: command
 not found
 /usr/bin/test-windows-key: line 6: xmodmap: command
 not found
 /usr/bin/startkde: line 150: mkfontdir: command not
 found
 /usr/bin/startkde: line 150: xset: command not found
 /usr/bin/startkde: line 152: mkfontdir: command not
 found
 /usr/bin/startkde: line 152: xset: command not found
 /usr/bin/startkde: line 169: xset: command not found
 ksplash: cannot connect to X server
 kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set.
 Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or
 directory
 ksmserver: cannot connect to X server
 /usr/bin/startkde: line 213: xmessage: command not
 found
 Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or
 directory
 Error: Can't contact kdeinit!
 [gonzalo@maxwell gonzalo]$
 
 

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 - graphic mode non privilegied users

2002-10-02 Thread David Walser

I have authentication with NIS and home directories
with autofs + NFS working just fine (the only problem
is a KDE trying to access /home/lmontel thing that
Laurent has remained silent about).

Neither of the files you attached are helpful, look at
.xsession-errors in the homedir of the user trying to
log in.

--- Sebastien Paolacci [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hello everybody,
 
 I made a full 9.0 install from a clean system with
 authentification via NIS 
 and home directories are mounted from a NFS server. 
 
 All seems great (even more than that), but my only
 problem is that I can't 
 reach any graphical mode with a non root user. X
 start well (it seems for 
 me), but after the blue wallpaper ... nothing (even
 not the KDE 
 splashscreen).
 
 The mousse is still ok, everything work, but the
 graphic session will stay 
 like this until I kill it.
 
 I use a similar (if not identical) config that the
 which for 8.2 where I 
 didn't have this problem.
 
 Does anyone has the same problem, or an idea in
 order to help me to make it 
 work ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sebastien
 
 The two attached files are the XFree86.log and the
 list of process running 
 when the system freeze after launching X server
 and KDE.
 

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Re: [Cooker] MenuDrake

2002-10-02 Thread David Walser

/usr/lib/menu

--- crazy mand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm using 9.0 final; I' m having a problem with
 menudrake in Mandrake Control Center. I added a new
 item in system menu and unchecked run in terminal,
 but whenever the app ran, a terminal was brought up.
 Anyone knows the location of global location for
 system menu so that I can manualy remove run in
 terminal.
 
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Re: [Cooker] kdemultimedia and TtMmidity++ conflict.

2002-10-02 Thread David Walser

--- Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 9.0 kdemultimedia and TiMidity++ conflict.
 I notice that kdemultimedia installs
 /usr/bin/timidity, a 275.7 KB 
 executable, and nothing in /usr/share.
 TiMidity++ tries to install /usr/bin/timidity and in
/usr/share 
 timidity, the man for timidity, and timidity.cfg

Annoying isn't it?  The fixes that need to be made
are:
kdemultimedia needs to not conflict with TiMidity++
kdemultimedia needs to not provide /usr/bin/timidity
kdemultimedia's
/usr/share/apps/kmidi/config/timidity.cfg needs to
source /usr/share/timidity/midia.cfg and not those
stupid piano/guitar ones
TiMidity++'s /usr/share/timidity/timidity.cfg needs to
have source midia.cfg uncommented at the bottom like
it used to

those things need to be done, then everything works. 
Other additional possibilities are:
kdemultimedia requires TiMidity++
TiMidity++ requires timidity-instruments

for everything in those packages to work, those things
are required, but some people don't like putting
Requires: on packages, so that's a tossup.

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Re: [Cooker] kdemultimedia and TtMmidity++ conflict.

2002-10-03 Thread David Walser

--- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I grant that, but during installation every pkg that
 is selected will be
 installed irregardless of any conflict which may
 exist.

And thank goodness for that!  It's bad enough all the
stupid conflicts Laurent put on his packages, but at
least it doesn't keep me from doing an install the way
I want to, just makes updating with rpmdrake a bit of
a pain sometimes.

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Re: [Cooker] Missing package in mandrake 9.0 breaks printing.

2002-10-03 Thread David Walser

--- Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On torsdagen den 3 oktober 2002 18.27 Warly wrote:
 
  some trouble in CJK l10n.
 
 What's CJK l10n ???

Chinese-Japanese-Korean localization

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Re: [Cooker] synthesis.hdlist2.cz not updated in contrib/cooker

2002-10-03 Thread David Walser

--- Phil Lavigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 On Thursday 03 October 2002 03:16 am, Eric Fernandez
 wrote:
  The synthesis file in the contrib of 9.0 has been
 correctly updated to
  the current version, but the contrib of cooker has
 still the 21st Sep
  version and is not updated. This is not a big
 problem, but I just wanted
  to warn !
 
   I can confirm that 9.0 Contribs can now be
 successfully added to the 
 Software Manager; this is what worked for me:
 
 URL:

ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/contrib/RPMS
 
 Path: synthesis.hdlist2.cz

Yes, for 9.0 it works, but for Cooker the hdlist2
files are not being updated, even though the packages
in contrib are.  Whatever your thing that
automatically regenerated those files when packages
changed is now broken and needs to be fixed.

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Re: [Cooker] Root and /

2002-10-03 Thread David Walser

Single user mode uses / as root's home directory, so
that can't be it.

--- Richard Tango-Lowy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would think it's because, when things get really
 mangled and you have
 to log in to single-user to recover, at least you
 can get to root's home
 directory.
 
 Rich
 
 On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 21:43, Dave Seff wrote:
 Why must /root be on the same file system as / ?
 
 I keep mine separate as not to wipe out ssh keys
 and other things. I can
 change it after the initial install  and all is
 fine, but the installer
 complains. 
 
 
 Just wondering.
 -Dave
 
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   -
   President
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Cooker] First Time Wizard won't use BB as default

2002-10-06 Thread David Walser

Did it create a file called .desktop in your home
directory?  Does it contain:
DESKTOP=blackbox

?  If not, that's what it was supposed to do.  You can
do it manually.

--- Forest C. Adcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The First time Wizard will not set BlackBox as the
 default Window Manager on 
 my machine.  Is this a problem more than I myself
 have seen, or is it just a 
 problem with my install?  Any ideas as to how to fix
 that problem and set 
 BlackBox as my default?
 

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Re: [Cooker] test

2002-10-06 Thread David Walser

I have been getting messages from you on the Cooker
list during the past two days.  Maybe they're just not
coming back to you?

--- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 *grumble* my messages haven't been getting to the
 list for the last 2
 days.  Now I'm wondering why...
 
 -- 
 Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://ben.reser.org
 
 Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't
 authorized to say yes.
 

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Re: [Cooker] urpm.pm on /

2002-10-06 Thread David Walser

Do you really have that file under /?  Did you rebuild
the package?  I have the same version and I get:
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/urpm.pm

--- Philippe Coulonges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [root@betti perl]# rpm -q urpmi  
 urpmi-4.0-20mdk
 [root@betti perl]# rpm -ql urpmi |grep urpm.pm
 /urpm.pm
 
 Is it really the right place ?

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Re: [Cooker] RFC: Can we eliminate all forms of modifying /usr for 9.*/10.0?

2002-10-07 Thread David Walser

--- Philippe Coulonges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What about /usr/src. I personally moved it to
 /usr/local/src and keep only a 
 link.

Hey so did I!  Hmm...

 And there is /usr/share/apps/kscd/cddb/ that belongs
 to /var/lib also.

That's probably the most well known one.  Anybody else
have examples?

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[Cooker] authconfig/drakauth

2002-10-07 Thread David Walser

One of my friends just noticed something interesting. 
He missed the drop-down box for authentication during
DrakX, so he needed to configure it in the installed
system, but appears there's no equivalent Drak tool to
do this.  We should probably have that thing from
DrakX available as drakauth with authconfig as a
symlink to it (as RH users expect that, and we
symlinked other such ones).

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[Cooker] New procps uploaded

2002-10-07 Thread David Walser

Hi, I upgraded the procps package to 2.0.9, and
procps-2.0.9-1mdk.src.rpm is sitting in
ftp.linux-mandrake.com/incoming

I know Cooker is frozen, but I figured I'd make it
available so other people can use it, as it's now
needed for the 2.5 kernel, and so Mandrakesoft people
don't have to duplicate the work I did.  I guess you
can either just hang onto it, or maybe someone could
upload it to contrib as hackprocps or something. 
Whatever :o)

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Re: [Cooker] New procps uploaded

2002-10-08 Thread David Walser

--- Marcel Pol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:30:39 -0700 (PDT)
 David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi, I upgraded the procps package to 2.0.9, and
  procps-2.0.9-1mdk.src.rpm is sitting in
  ftp.linux-mandrake.com/incoming
  
  I know Cooker is frozen, but I figured I'd make it
  available so other people can use it, as it's now
  needed for the 2.5 kernel
 
 Does it still work with the 2.4 kernel, or only with
 2.5?

Still works with 2.4

 Also, could you make it available somewhere?
  /incoming is write-only, so no one can download
 from there.

Can you access the following URL:
http://luigiwalser.homeip.net:8080/contrib/RPM/SRPMS/

?  If so, it's in there.  If not, is anybody has a
place I can upload this, lemme know.

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