Hi Walter,

Though it doesn't invalidate your comment, I was considering changing the
message only for the Lucene JIRA, at least for now.

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 5:08 PM Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>
wrote:

> Here is one with shorter, less complex sentences and clear calls to action.
>
> Are you looking for support for Solr? Have you seen unexpected behavior?
> Please ask for help on the Solr user mailing list or the IRC channel. If it
> is a new problem, then you can submit a Jira issue.
>
> wunder
> Walter Underwood
> wun...@wunderwood.org
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)
>
> On Sep 21, 2021, at 12:23 AM, Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think you made a good point, Alexandre. Would something like this read
> better:
>
> ```
> This project has a user mailing list and an IRC channel for support. If
> you are looking for support, or if you are not sure whether the behavior
> that you are observing is expected or not, please discuss it there first.
> ```
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:22 PM Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> +1.
>> Ideally, the final version could still be several shorter sentences. To
>> avoid needing to be a programmer to parse the deeply nested, if totally
>> logical, structure.
>>
>> On Mon., Sep. 20, 2021, 4:33 a.m. Adrien Grand, <jpou...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Jira gives the following note when opening an issue:
>>>
>>> ```
>>> This project has a user mailing list and an IRC channel for support.
>>> Please ensure that you have discussed your problem using one of those
>>> resources BEFORE creating this ticket.
>>> ```
>>>
>>> This can be quite intimidating for someone who has never worked with us
>>> before, and we don't apply this logic for ourselves, for instance I feel
>>> free to open JIRAs without discussing them first on IRC or dev@l.a.o.
>>> Given that we are not seeing much irrelevant traffic on JIRA, I'd like to
>>> soften the message to something like below:
>>>
>>> ```
>>> If you are looking for support, or if you are not sure whether the
>>> behavior that you are observing is expected or not, please discuss your
>>> problem on the user mailing-list instead before creating a ticket.
>>> ```
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Adrien
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Adrien
>
>
>

-- 
Adrien

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