Hmm. How is this? It is a single longer sentence, but essentially a string of 
simple ones.

If you want help or have a feature idea, please ask on the mailing list or IRC 
channel before submitting a Jira issue.

wunder
Walter Underwood
wun...@wunderwood.org
http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)

> On Sep 22, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Greg, I understand and agree with the intent, but I also would like to keep 
> this as short as possible since the screen to create a new issue in JIRA is 
> already quite intimidating with all its text boxes, and the current version 
> is already taking two lines even though it's short. Maybe this is the sort of 
> thing that we could try to better emphasize in our project's README?
> 
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:07 PM Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org 
> <mailto:wun...@wunderwood.org>> wrote:
> Two excellent points. So it could be:
> 
> Are you looking for support for Lucene? Have you seen unexpected behavior? 
> Have an idea for a new feature or improvement? Please ask for help on the 
> Lucene user mailing list or the IRC channel. If it is a new problem or idea, 
> then you can submit a Jira issue.
> 
> wunder
> Walter Underwood
> wun...@wunderwood.org <mailto:wun...@wunderwood.org>
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/>  (my blog)
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 6:38 AM, Greg Miller <gsmil...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:gsmil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Love this idea!
>> 
>> I wonder if there's a way to make the messaging clear that ideas for
>> new features/improvements are also always welcome? When I read the
>> current language, I interpret it as bug reporting. Maybe adding a
>> leading sentence would help?
>> 
>> ```
>> Bug reports, improvements and new feature ideas are always welcome!
>> Please note, this project has a user mailing list and an IRC channel
>> for support. If you are looking for support, or if you are not sure
>> whether the behavior that you are observing is expected or not, please
>> discuss it there first.
>> ```
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> -Greg
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 5:35 AM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jpou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Walter,
>>> 
>>> Though it doesn't invalidate your comment, I was considering changing the 
>>> message only for the Lucene JIRA, at least for now.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 5:08 PM Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org 
>>> <mailto:wun...@wunderwood.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Here is one with shorter, less complex sentences and clear calls to action.
>>>> 
>>>> Are you looking for support for Solr? Have you seen unexpected behavior? 
>>>> Please ask for help on the Solr user mailing list or the IRC channel. If 
>>>> it is a new problem, then you can submit a Jira issue.
>>>> 
>>>> wunder
>>>> Walter Underwood
>>>> wun...@wunderwood.org <mailto:wun...@wunderwood.org>
>>>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ <http://observer.wunderwood.org/>  (my 
>>>> blog)
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 21, 2021, at 12:23 AM, Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:jpou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think you made a good point, Alexandre. Would something like this read 
>>>> better:
>>>> 
>>>> ```
>>>> This project has a user mailing list and an IRC channel for support. If 
>>>> you are looking for support, or if you are not sure whether the behavior 
>>>> that you are observing is expected or not, please discuss it there first.
>>>> ```
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 2:22 PM Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafa...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:arafa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1.
>>>>> Ideally, the final version could still be several shorter sentences. To 
>>>>> avoid needing to be a programmer to parse the deeply nested, if totally 
>>>>> logical, structure.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon., Sep. 20, 2021, 4:33 a.m. Adrien Grand, <jpou...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:jpou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jira gives the following note when opening an issue:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ```
>>>>>> This project has a user mailing list and an IRC channel for support. 
>>>>>> Please ensure that you have discussed your problem using one of those 
>>>>>> resources BEFORE creating this ticket.
>>>>>> ```
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This can be quite intimidating for someone who has never worked with us 
>>>>>> before, and we don't apply this logic for ourselves, for instance I feel 
>>>>>> free to open JIRAs without discussing them first on IRC or dev@l.a.o. 
>>>>>> Given that we are not seeing much irrelevant traffic on JIRA, I'd like 
>>>>>> to soften the message to something like below:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ```
>>>>>> If you are looking for support, or if you are not sure whether the 
>>>>>> behavior that you are observing is expected or not, please discuss your 
>>>>>> problem on the user mailing-list instead before creating a ticket.
>>>>>> ```
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Adrien
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Adrien
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Adrien
>> 
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