On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Werner Punz <werner.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Actually We probably can provide a non facelets based solution
>> under the myfaces umbrella, tomahawk, extensions or impl I don´t care
>> but I am definitely sure we will be unable to provide it under
>> the standard f: tags...
>
> yeah. I know. I am really wondering why the "support all views" ship
> sailed away.
> Again, I understand that some solutions may only fly in Facelets land...

Thinking a bit about this, ...yeah, JSP is dead :-)
simple migration (just updating the JARs) to JSF 2.0 will work.
Using new features => have to use Facelets

> That said, but wasn't the promised goal of the formal/current EG that
> a flexible ViewLayer was
> the KEY ? ==> Swing-based RenderKit etc ? Or is this (JSF) just another
> web-framework ?

Doing an f:ajax for JSP shouldn't be hard. An extension could do that.
So, yeah, we were always saying JSP is dead. Now it is almost official :-)

Not sure if that is really communicated that way.

>
>>
>> +1 for a non facelet based solution...
>>
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>>
>> Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Ganesh <gan...@j4fry.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Matthias, Simon (K.) and Werner,
>>>
>>> no need to name only a few folks.
>>> Choosing the right subject will bring attention
>>> to folks that are interested ;-)
>>>
>>>> Sorry I need to come back on this again. We had agreed on putting the
>>>> extension attributes within f:attribute tags nested in f:ajax to avoid
>>>> compatibility issues with other implementations. In the meantime I
>>>> realized
>>>> that f:ajax is a facelets-only tag, so additional tag attributes aren't
>>>
>>> :-) it is funny that the core statement was every view needs to be
>>> supported.
>>> I can see that some features may only work with Facelets, but a Tag should
>>> be present for both, JSP(X) and Facelets. Or am I wrong ?
>>>
>>>> declared in a taglib, would be ignored by other implementations and
>>>> cannot
>>>> be detected by the TCK. So, I changed my mind and now would prefer
>>>>
>>>> <f:ajax myfaces="pps:true, queuesize:1"/>
>>>
>>> I like that.
>>>
>>>> over
>>>>
>>>> <f:ajax>
>>>>  <f:attribute name="myfaces_pps" value="true"/>
>>>>  <f:attribute name="myfaces_queuesize" value="1"/>
>>>> </f:ajax>
>>>>
>>>> because the former is less verbose and better readable.
>>>
>>> +1 I am with you
>>>
>>> -M
>>>
>>>> Can you agree with these new arguments?
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Ganesh
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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