Re: newbie question with wildcard in sitemap

[Joerg Heinicke]

You have a  surrounding not only this . This 
 makes it necessary to use {../1}:



Regards,

Joerg

Sliman Bouchareb wrote:
hi cocooners,

i have the following directory structrue:

cocoon:|
 |protected-
|-docs -
  |-home
  |-fr
  |.
|-stylsheets
|-descriptors
|-css
and the followinf sitemap:




  
  
  
  



  



  
* after a successfull login i call the uri 	home/home.section

and then i have the following match:




  
  
  
  
  


  
  
  


  
  
  
  
  





  
* well this works fine, nut i want to substitute  with 
because i have many ressources, but this dont work :-(, why that ?
thanx
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newbie question with wildcard in sitemap

[Sliman Bouchareb]

hi cocooners,

i have the following directory structrue:

cocoon:|
 |protected-
|-docs -
  |-home
  |-fr
  |.
|-stylsheets
|-descriptors
|-css

and the followinf sitemap:




  
  
  
  



  



  


* after a successfull login i call the uri  home/home.section

and then i have the following match:





  
  
  
  
  




  
  
  



  
  
  
  
  





  

* well this works fine, nut i want to substitute  with 
because i have many ressources, but this dont work :-(, why that ?


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Re: Suggestion for a Cocoon newbie

[Joerg Heinicke]

Hello Alberto,

I hope my comments can be at least a bit of help:

XSP is a similar approach to JSP. It's more about scripting and not real 
"SoC" or let's better say, it can be simply misused and so break the "SoC".

The better approach seems to be an XForms framework. Cocoon has XMLForms 
with more or less much documentation (e.g. 
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/howto/xmlform-wizard/howto-xmlform-wizard.html, 
 http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Search.jsp?query=xmlform&Search=Find). But 
at the moment nobody works at this stuff. It seems to be more or less 
stable (other people can help here more), but it could take some time 
until patches are applied and bugs are fixed. The reason is the 
separation of XMLForms out of Cocoon. The new homepage is 
http://www.xmlform.org.

Another one is Woody. It's new and I don't know much about the status. 
You can also find documentation on the Cocoon Wiki about it 
(http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Search.jsp?query=woody&Search=Find).

The problem is there is no "right way to use Cocoon". There are many 
different ways. The best is to build on other people's experiences. So 
ask more specific questions and you will surely get answers.

Joerg

Alberto Zanon wrote:
Hello!

I'm a Java developer and I'm looking for a solid system to construct my
sites.
I have already realized an e-commerce site, but without rules.
My jsp pages contain both logic and presentation layer.
Only the data layer is encapsulated into java classes called from jsp.
Now I have to construct an intranet at my company where employees
will register their activity during the day.
The site involves form validation, business logic, and the use of a
database.
Before becoming aware of Cocoon, I thought I would build the site this way:
- a layer of java classes that interface with the database;
- a layer of java classes for business logic;
- a layer of jsp for presentation;
Now I have downloaded the latest version of Cocoon and read many pages of
documentation.
But I'm very confused! I read about XSP but I read also about XMLForm ...
and where I put
my business logic? For example, I downloaded a tutorial from IBM about
Cocoon and databases
but it shows only the XSP pages to dialog with the database and format the
data ... no business
logic in it.
I'm interested about Cocoon because one goal of it is the "MVC" or "SoC"
approach
when a site is developed.
Please, can anyone suggest me the right way to use Cocoon?

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Suggestion for a Cocoon newbie

[Alberto Zanon]

Hello!

I'm a Java developer and I'm looking for a solid system to construct my
sites.
I have already realized an e-commerce site, but without rules.
My jsp pages contain both logic and presentation layer.
Only the data layer is encapsulated into java classes called from jsp.
Now I have to construct an intranet at my company where employees
will register their activity during the day.
The site involves form validation, business logic, and the use of a
database.
Before becoming aware of Cocoon, I thought I would build the site this way:
- a layer of java classes that interface with the database;
- a layer of java classes for business logic;
- a layer of jsp for presentation;

Now I have downloaded the latest version of Cocoon and read many pages of
documentation.
But I'm very confused! I read about XSP but I read also about XMLForm ...
and where I put
my business logic? For example, I downloaded a tutorial from IBM about
Cocoon and databases
but it shows only the XSP pages to dialog with the database and format the
data ... no business
logic in it.
I'm interested about Cocoon because one goal of it is the "MVC" or "SoC"
approach
when a site is developed.

Please, can anyone suggest me the right way to use Cocoon?

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RE: Newbie user

[Geoff Howard]

The book you're reading is for the previous 2.0.x release of cocoon - you're
using the 2.1 branch so some details like that are going to be out of whack.
There is a status document, and an upgrading guide that might give you some
overview of major changes.  The core concepts of the book should be mostly
still valid with a few exceptions.

Further, the light version of Jetty (bundled now with cocoon for
convenience of "test driving") that you are starting by doing cocoon.sh by
default launches cocoon at the root context.  Where you see /cocoon/ in urls
in examples or demos, they are assuming you've installed cocoon into a
servlet container under a named context - as you would if you dropped
cocoon.war
into the webapps folder of Tomcat.

The existing documentation for the 2.1 branch is a little out of date in
parts
and we could use your help discovering problem areas.  In fact, new
documentation
is happening over at the cocoon wiki (http://wiki.cocoondev.org).

Have fun and write back with anything you have trouble with.

Geoff

> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Doust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 1:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Newbie user
>
>
> Hi.
> I've just downloaded (from CVS) the latest code for cocoon (for the first
> time) and built it according to some (somewhat) conflicting/confusing
> instructions (naming build target webapp). I'm running 'cocoon servlet'
> after doing the build. I can open my browser on localhost:
> and I see the
> 'Welcome to Cocoon!' page that says I've successfully installed
> Cocoon with
> the button that will take me to cocoon.apache.org. According to the book
> 'Cocoon: Building XML Applications' I should see a whole bunch of links to
> example pages if I go to localhost:/cocoon.
> I get this:
>
> Cocoon 2 - Resource not found
> type resource-not-found
> message Resource not found
> description The requested URI "/cocoon" was not found
> sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet
> source Cocoon servlet
> cause
> No pipeline matched request: cocoon
> request-uri
> /cocoon
> path-info
> cocoon
>
> If I go to localhost:/cocoon/ I get this:
>
> Cocoon 2 - Resource not found
> type resource-not-found
> message Resource not found
> description The requested URI "/cocoon/" was not found
> sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet
> source Cocoon servlet
> cause
> Resource not found
> file:/C:/Projects/apache/xml-cocoon2/build/webapp/cocoon/sitemap.xmap
> request-uri
> /cocoon/
> path-info
> cocoon/
>
> I find the fact that it's looking for the sitemap.xmap file in
> .../build/webapp/cocoon somewhat surprising when it hasn't been put there.
> It's in the .../build/webapp directory.
>
> What have I done wrong? Anyone?
> Thanks in advance.
> Rich
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Newbie user

[Richard Doust]

Hi.
I've just downloaded (from CVS) the latest code for cocoon (for the first
time) and built it according to some (somewhat) conflicting/confusing
instructions (naming build target webapp). I'm running 'cocoon servlet'
after doing the build. I can open my browser on localhost: and I see the
'Welcome to Cocoon!' page that says I've successfully installed Cocoon with
the button that will take me to cocoon.apache.org. According to the book
'Cocoon: Building XML Applications' I should see a whole bunch of links to
example pages if I go to localhost:/cocoon.
I get this:

Cocoon 2 - Resource not found
type resource-not-found
message Resource not found
description The requested URI "/cocoon" was not found
sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet
source Cocoon servlet
cause
No pipeline matched request: cocoon
request-uri
/cocoon
path-info
cocoon

If I go to localhost:/cocoon/ I get this:

Cocoon 2 - Resource not found
type resource-not-found
message Resource not found
description The requested URI "/cocoon/" was not found
sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet
source Cocoon servlet
cause
Resource not found
file:/C:/Projects/apache/xml-cocoon2/build/webapp/cocoon/sitemap.xmap
request-uri
/cocoon/
path-info
cocoon/

I find the fact that it's looking for the sitemap.xmap file in
.../build/webapp/cocoon somewhat surprising when it hasn't been put there.
It's in the .../build/webapp directory.

What have I done wrong? Anyone?
Thanks in advance.
Rich


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RE: Newbie: writing XML files with Cocoon

[Oleg Lyebyedyev]

http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/software/linotype/

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Subject: Re: Newbie: writing XML files with Cocoon

> Apologies if this is a basic question.
 
> I'm just starting with Cocoon really and am trying to produce a
> content management system using it to see whether it really is
> suitable for my needs.
> 
> As part of this I need to edit xml files via the browser but it occurs
> to me this must be something that loads of people have done already.
> My question is therefore what content management projects exist or
> failing that what browser based XML editing tools exist.
> 
> I'm using:
> Win98
> Tomcat 4.1.24
> JDK 1.3.1
> Cocoon 2.1

If you're using 2.1, you should try Stefano's Linotype. I haven't yet
tried it (but will 
soon). It looks really cool. Unfortunately the download link is broken,
so I can't tell you 
where to get it, and Stefano is apparently hiking up an inca trail
towards Machu 
Picchu, which doesn't help! But it is well worth waiting for. It uses
client side wysiwyg 
editing on IE6 and Moz6, and flow behind the scenes.

Hope that helps (and doesn't cause too much 'I can't find it'
frustration).

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Re: Newbie: writing XML files with Cocoon

[Andreas Kuckartz]

> I'm just starting with Cocoon really and am trying to produce a content
> management system using it to see whether it really is suitable for my
> needs.

First of all I would recommend that you participate in developing Apache
Lenya (see http://lenya.org/ or http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/) which is a
CMS based on Cocoon.

> As part of this I need to edit xml files via the browser but it occurs to
me
> this must be something that loads of people have done already. My question
> is therefore what content management projects exist or failing that what
> browser based XML editing tools exist.

You will find answers to this question on the Lenya website.

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Re: Newbie: writing XML files with Cocoon

[Upayavira]

> Apologies if this is a basic question.
 
> I'm just starting with Cocoon really and am trying to produce a
> content management system using it to see whether it really is
> suitable for my needs.
> 
> As part of this I need to edit xml files via the browser but it occurs
> to me this must be something that loads of people have done already.
> My question is therefore what content management projects exist or
> failing that what browser based XML editing tools exist.
> 
> I'm using:
> Win98
> Tomcat 4.1.24
> JDK 1.3.1
> Cocoon 2.1

If you're using 2.1, you should try Stefano's Linotype. I haven't yet tried it (but 
will 
soon). It looks really cool. Unfortunately the download link is broken, so I can't 
tell you 
where to get it, and Stefano is apparently hiking up an inca trail towards Machu 
Picchu, which doesn't help! But it is well worth waiting for. It uses client side 
wysiwyg 
editing on IE6 and Moz6, and flow behind the scenes.

Hope that helps (and doesn't cause too much 'I can't find it' frustration).

Regards, Upayavira



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Newbie: writing XML files with Cocoon

[Phil Coultard]

Hi,

Apologies if this is a basic question.

I'm just starting with Cocoon really and am trying to produce a content
management system using it to see whether it really is suitable for my
needs.

As part of this I need to edit xml files via the browser but it occurs to me
this must be something that loads of people have done already. My question
is therefore what content management projects exist or failing that what
browser based XML editing tools exist.

I'm using:
Win98
Tomcat 4.1.24
JDK 1.3.1
Cocoon 2.1

Thanks in advance

Phil Coultard
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Re: Newbie Question: Where do I add to sitemap?

[Ross Bleakney]

Nevermind, I found the answer: put the  element inside

Thanks,
Ross

On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 17:35, Ross Bleakney wrote:
> Cocooners,
> I have created an action, but I need to modify my sitemap.xmap like so:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Where do I put this? I've tried putting it before the components, after
> the components, etc. I've looked at a bunch of examples, but they don't
> show the entire file (only snippets).
> 
> Thanks,
> Ross
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Newbie Question: Where do I add to sitemap?

[Steven Cummings]

Actions go *inside* components (actions are a type of component, like generator, 
serializer, transformer, etc.):


  
...
 etc. etc.

HTH

/S

Ross Bleakney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Cocooners,
>I have created an action, but I need to modify my sitemap.xmap like so:
>
>
>
>
>
>Where do I put this? I've tried putting it before the components, after
>the components, etc. I've looked at a bunch of examples, but they don't
>show the entire file (only snippets).
>
>Thanks,
>Ross
>
>
>
>
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Newbie Question: Where do I add to sitemap?

[Ross Bleakney]

Cocooners,
I have created an action, but I need to modify my sitemap.xmap like so:





Where do I put this? I've tried putting it before the components, after
the components, etc. I've looked at a bunch of examples, but they don't
show the entire file (only snippets).

Thanks,
Ross





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Re: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Perry Molendijk]

Try "com.mysql.jdbc.Driver" instead of "org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver".
I have had a similar error message like that before and the above seem to fix 
it.
 
Perry

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Phil 
  Coultard 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 1:52 
  AM
  Subject: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db 
  access (NoValidConnectionException)
  Geoff: Thanks for all your help, you are a star.Big 
  apologies from a newbie struggling with the basics of Cocoon...I have 
  run into yet another problem which I don't seem to be able to 
  getover...This time I am trying to connect èz}ü
Øx}Øx} MySQL db 
  but get the message:ERROR   (2003-04-04) 
  16:18.09:150   
  [sitemap.generator.serverpages](/ltd_coultard/mount/com_coultard/tickets) 
  Thread-10/tickets_xsp: Could notget the 
  datasourceorg.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.NoValidConnectionException: 
  No validJdbcConnection class availablein the error log 
  file(tomcat/webapps/applicationname/WEB-INF/logs/error.log) when I run my 
  xsp(enclosed below)I am also new to MySQL but am familiar with 
  MSSQL so...I have:-made the dØx}ü
Èv}Èv}alled coultard) and made 
  sure MySQL is running (it works finesolo)-put the MySQL db jar file 
  (mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stable-bin.jar) inC:\tomcat\common\lib-put 
  the init-param for preloading the driver in web.xml as below.-defined the 
  connection pool as below-attempted to run the xsp belowI just 
  spits out the title of the page and the session user value (which Ihave 
  set via a login script) which would be consistent with their being 
  noresults except the same sql statement returns rÈv}ü
¸t}¸t}ts if run 
  directly inMySQL and the error message suggests to me it's not even 
  getting that far.I am using:Win 98JDK 1.3.1Tomcat 
  4.1.24Cocoon 2.0.4MySQL 4.0.12Winjar file from: 
  mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stableWhat confuses me is that my book 
  (Cocoon developers handbook) assures methat any errors preloading the 
  driver or defining the connection pool willbe thrown up when they are 
  attempted (when the application starts) and shownin access.log and 
  core.log respectfully. My ent¸t}ü
¨r}¨r} in these two logs 
  lookfine:DEBUG   
  (2003-04-04) 16:14.22:850   [access] 
  (Unknown-URI)Unknown-thread/CocoonServlet: Trying to load class: 
  org.gjt.mm.mysql.DriverDEBUG   
  (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:010   [core.manager] 
  (Unknown-URI)Unknown-thread/De¨r}ü
˜p}˜p}tComponentFactory: logger 
  attribute iscore.datasources.coultardDEBUG   (2003-04-04) 
  16:14.24:390   [core.manager] 
  (Unknown-URI)Unknown-thread/ThreadSafeComponentHandler: ComponentHandler 
  initialized 
  for:org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.ResourceLimitingJdbcDataSourceDEBUG   
  (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:390   [core.manager] 
  (Unknown-URI)Unknown-thread/ExcaliburComponentSelector: 
  Addingorg.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.ResourceLimitingJdbcDataSource 
  forhint [coultard]DEBUG   
  (2003-04-˜p}ü
ˆn}ˆn}16:14.24:390   [core.manager] 
  (Unknown-URI)Unknown-thread/ThreadSafeComponentHandler: ComponentHandler 
  initialized 
  for:org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.ExcaliburComponentSelectorAnd 
  yet the error thrown when I try to load the page rather suggests to methat 
  it can't find, or hasn't 'installed' the jar file properly...On the 
  assumption that the preload and connection pool substantiations areworking 
  I hˆn}ü
xl}xl}two theories (which I'm sure are probably wrong!)1. That 
  the org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver is incorrect. I got 
  thisvalue from my book  but it is sadly for an older MySQL driver. I 
  notice thefirst line of the README which comes with the jar file reads 
  "MySQLConnector/J 3.0.6 Stable (formerly MM.MySQL)" and was wondering if 
  thischange in naming convention is mirrored somehow in it. I have been 
  unable tofind a reference for the correct string for this value (MySQL 
  referring to"read youxl}ü
hj}hj}rvlet engine or application server 
  vendor's documentation";Cocoon seemingly not making a reference to what 
  these strings should beexcept for the commented WebSphere, Oracle and 
  IBMWebshpere). Furtherattempts to substantiate this theory and attempts at 
  guessing its value havebeen unfruitful.2. That my reference to the 
  dburl is incorrect. My db is physically locatedin C:\mysql\data\ and not 
  under the tomcat/webapps dir so I was wondering ifthis had any influence 
  on the 
  matter.Thankfuhj}ü
Xh}Xh}Phil-

RE: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Andrew Savory]

Hi Phil,

On Sun, 6 Apr 2003, Phil Coultard wrote:

> Nope. That didn't work either... still getting the same message:
>
> "ERROR   (2003-04-06) 00:50.36:940   [sitemap.generator.serverpages]
> (/ltd_coultard/tickets.xsp) Thread-11/tickets_xsp: Could not get the
> datasource
> org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.NoValidConnectionException: No valid
> JdbcConnection class available"

Presumably all the other steps (eg connecting with command-line mysql
client) worked?

Can you just confirm for us which version of Cocoon and which mysql jar
you're using?

Cocoon: http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/dist/cocoon-2.0.4-bin.zip for
JDK1.3.1

Mysql: from http://www.mysql.com/downloads/api-jdbc-stable.html

Copy mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stable-bin.jar from the zip/tar file into
cocoon/WEB-INF/lib/

- Restart tomcat

> This is one mild mannered Englishman who is off out to buy a baseball bat
> soon ;-)

I have a few lying around if you want to buy one second hand (in generally
good condition, a few bits of keyboard still attached).

If none of the above works, it may be worth trying to compile your own
copy of Cocoon. If you do this, drop the mysql jar into lib/local/ and
then follow the rest of the instructions for building.


Andrew.

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RE: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Phil Coultard]

> From: Faron Dutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 April 2003 02:52

> I was having the same problem with Phoenix. It turns out that the
> excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar is missing
> org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.JdbcConnection. Must have been a
> build problem :( After adding it everything works fine.

Nope - afraid that idea wasn't valid either I appear to have
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.JdbcConnection in my jar:
META-INF/
META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
org/
org/apache/
org/apache/avalon/
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/AbstractJdbcConnection.class
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/DataSourceComponent$1.class
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/DataSourceComponent.class
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/InformixDataSource.class
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/J2eeDataSource.class
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/JdbcConnection.class
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/JdbcConnectionFactory.class
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/JdbcConnectionPool.class
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/JdbcDataSource.class
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/NoAvailableConnectionException.class
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/NoValidConnectionException.class
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/ResourceLimitingJdbcConnectionPool.cl
ass
org/apache/avalon/excalibur/datasource/ResourceLimitingJdbcDataSource.class
META-INF/LICENSE.txt

> > From: Andrew Savory
> > Sent: 05 April 2003 22:29
>
> > On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, Geoff Howard wrote:
> >
> > > But if clearing up the jdk dependency doesn't work, try explicitly
> > > giving root access to the database you're using for the wildcard host:
> > > %.
> >
> > Also, try explicitly adding localhost - MySQL regards localhost as
> > different to the wildcard "every host", for goodness knows what reason.
> > (Although that will throw a connection error with the
> command-line client
> > as well as Cocoon.)
>
> Nope. That didn't work either... still getting the same message:
>
> "ERROR   (2003-04-06) 00:50.36:940   [sitemap.generator.serverpages]
> (/ltd_coultard/tickets.xsp) Thread-11/tickets_xsp: Could not get the
> datasource
> org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.NoValidConnectionException:
>  No valid
> JdbcConnection class available"
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RE: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Faron Dutton]

Hi All,

I was having the same problem with Phoenix. It turns out that the
excalibur-datasource-1.0.jar is missing
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.JdbcConnection. Must have been a
build problem :( After adding it everything works fine.

Faron

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(NoValidConnectionException)


> From: Andrew Savory
> Sent: 05 April 2003 22:29

> On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, Geoff Howard wrote:
>
> > But if clearing up the jdk dependency doesn't work, try explicitly
> > giving root access to the database you're using for the wildcard host:
> > %.
>
> Also, try explicitly adding localhost - MySQL regards localhost as
> different to the wildcard "every host", for goodness knows what reason.
> (Although that will throw a connection error with the command-line client
> as well as Cocoon.)

Nope. That didn't work either... still getting the same message:

"ERROR   (2003-04-06) 00:50.36:940   [sitemap.generator.serverpages]
(/ltd_coultard/tickets.xsp) Thread-11/tickets_xsp: Could not get the
datasource
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.NoValidConnectionException: No valid
JdbcConnection class available"

This is one mild mannered Englishman who is off out to buy a baseball bat
soon ;-)

Phil
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RE: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Phil Coultard]

> From: Andrew Savory
> Sent: 05 April 2003 22:29

> On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, Geoff Howard wrote:
>
> > But if clearing up the jdk dependency doesn't work, try explicitly
> > giving root access to the database you're using for the wildcard host:
> > %.
>
> Also, try explicitly adding localhost - MySQL regards localhost as
> different to the wildcard "every host", for goodness knows what reason.
> (Although that will throw a connection error with the command-line client
> as well as Cocoon.)

Nope. That didn't work either... still getting the same message:

"ERROR   (2003-04-06) 00:50.36:940   [sitemap.generator.serverpages]
(/ltd_coultard/tickets.xsp) Thread-11/tickets_xsp: Could not get the
datasource
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.NoValidConnectionException: No valid
JdbcConnection class available"

This is one mild mannered Englishman who is off out to buy a baseball bat
soon ;-)

Phil
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RE: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Andrew Savory]

On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, Geoff Howard wrote:

> But if clearing up the jdk dependency doesn't work, try explicitly
> giving root access to the database you're using for the wildcard host:
> %.

Also, try explicitly adding localhost - MySQL regards localhost as
different to the wildcard "every host", for goodness knows what reason.
(Although that will throw a connection error with the command-line client
as well as Cocoon.)

Andrew.

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Newbie, clarification: Development environment question

[Joe Williams]

>I'm not sure I understand what you want to achieve. To have two cocoons on
tomcat, you can simply put two war files with different names.

Yes. I did that, and it works fine when accessing either installation using
localhost:8080/cocoon or localhost:8080/cocoon-dev

However, when accessing localhost/cocoon you get the index page created by
Cocoon that shows you the directories and files in the Cocoon root
directory. I have read that this is the way to make sure your installation
doesn't have any problems that will bite you later.

When I access localhost/cocoon, I do indeed get the index page that lists
the files and directories within the Cocoon root directory.

But, when I access localhost/cocoon-dev (without the port number) I get the
404 error.

Does this indicate a problem, or no?

Joe



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RE: Newbie: Suggestions for development environment

[Upayavira]

> >What is the best practice for this that allows the most hassle-free
> deployment with the
> >least opportunity for breaking the webapp in moving it from local
> >machine
> to host machine?

I use the main Cocoon sitemap as a kind of 'switchboard', without having any of 
my site code within it. I then have a sub-sitemap for a site which contains all of the 
code specific to that site. That sitemap does not need to be within the 
tomcat/webapps/cocoon folder, it can be anywhere. I then keep all of my XML, 
XSL, etc in the same folder (or in xml, xsl, etc subfolders of..) as the sub-sitemap. 
That means, when I want to deploy a site, all I have to do is copy that folder with 
its sitemap and sub-folders, and update the root sitemap to mount the sub-
sitemap. Works well for me.

As to minimal build, there has been a lot of work going into this recently, but all of 
this work has gone into the latest (not-yet-released) Cocoon 2.1. You can edit a 
file excluding the bits you don't want, and then run the build process which can 
prepare you a war file ready for deployment with just the features you want.

For 2.0.4 you need to use the methods described on the wiki.

Regards, Upayavira


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RE: Newbie: Suggestions for development environment

[Phil Coultard]

I am also a Newbie but, having the same outlook as yourself I think I
understand what you want...



>I have created multiple Cocoon instances, but am not sure this is the best
way to do it. The
>reason I say this, is that when I access localhost/cocoon I see the
directory page; but when I
>access localhost/cocoon_dev (the second instance, set up with intentions of
creating a Cocoon
>instance with minimal overhead for my webapp) I get a 404 error. This tells
me that something is
>amiss (I think).

I think you are looking for a so called "minimal" install. This includes the
requirements of Cocoon but does not include all the other stuff. See the
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/ (thanks to Geoff Howard) site for more info. I
found the page rather hidden away being a link under "Main, For Beginners,
Set up cocoon in 15 minutes, [scroll down] MinimalCocoonConfiguration" so
here's a direct link:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=MinimalCocoonConfiguration. However,
as an ignorant novice I noted that this tutorial didn't go quite far enough:
having deleted all the pipelines you have to put at least one back and a
corresponding file (of course) to test whether it works or you'll just get
an error!

>Another method I have read says that the way to do it is to create a webapp
directory within
>the cocoon/mount directory and use a subsitemap.



>What is the best practice for this that allows the most hassle-free
deployment with the
>least opportunity for breaking the webapp in moving it from local machine
to host machine?

Don't know myself yet sorry! With my limited experience it seems that sub
apps are nice and portable but may have app specific (rather than cocoon
specific) requirements (e.g. db connection pools, logicsheets) that are set
in the main app so it kinda depends what you are doing I guess.

HTH(!)

Phil Coultard
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RE: Newbie: Suggestions for development environment

[Argyn]

I'm not sure I 
understand what you want to achieve. To have two cocoons on tomcat, you can 
simply put two war files with different names. For example, put cocoon.war and 
its copy under name cocoon-dev.war in webapps directory. So, you'll have two 
cocoons: http://localhost:8080/cocoon/ and http://localhost:8080/cocoon-dev/. When 
I play with settings, sometimes, I simply copy extracted cocoon directory in 
Tomcat's webapps folder into a different name, like 
/webapps/cocoon1.
 
There was also a 
thread on "minimal" cocoon deployment, maybe that's what you need to search for 
in this mailing list.

  -Original Message-From: Joe Williams 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, April 05, 
  2003 11:02 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  Newbie: Suggestions for development environment
   
  I have created multiple Cocoon instances, but am 
  not sure this is the best way to do it. The reason I say this, is that when I 
  access localhost/cocoon I see the directory page; but when I access 
  localhost/cocoon_dev (the second instance, set up with intentions of creating 
  a Cocoon instance with minimal overhead for my webapp) I get a 404 error. This 
  tells me that something is amiss (I think).
   

Newbie: Suggestions for development environment

[Joe Williams]

I am a technical writer learning to use Cocoon. I 
have read the FAQs and done Google searches for an answer to this question 
(which doesn't mean that it is not out there somewhere, of course).
 
I have installed Cocoon and experimented with it 
somewhat successfully and would like to begin building and deploying a webapp 
that will create dynamic documentation.
 
I am creating my project on a Linux box on a home 
network, and will deploy to a Web server on the Internet.
 
I would like to keep the full Cocoon installation 
(2.0.3 on Tomcat 4.1.18) on my home box, but don't particularly want to burden 
my hosting provider with all of the samples, documentation, and other overhead 
of the full install.
 
I am confused after reading about setting up a 
development environment and deploying webapps. 
 
I have created multiple Cocoon instances, but am 
not sure this is the best way to do it. The reason I say this, is that when I 
access localhost/cocoon I see the directory page; but when I access 
localhost/cocoon_dev (the second instance, set up with intentions of creating a 
Cocoon instance with minimal overhead for my webapp) I get a 404 error. This 
tells me that something is amiss (I think).
 
Another method I have read says that the way to do 
it is to create a webapp directory within the cocoon/mount directory and use a 
subsitemap.
 
OK. But when I deploy from my local (home network) 
machine to my provider's machine (on the Internet) I will have to create a new 
sitemap that references whatever components the webapp requires. Maybe this is 
no big deal to experienced Cocoon developers/users but it seems like an 
opportunity for a lot of confusion and extra work.
 
What is the best practice for this that allows the 
most hassle-free deployment with the least opportunity for breaking the webapp 
in moving it from local machine to host machine?
 
You may reply off-list if you like and I will post 
whatever works for other newbies.
 
As always, let me know if I have left out 
information that would be helpful in understanding the question, and I will 
provide it. Or, if there is a link that explains this, that would be fine, as 
well.
 
Thanks.
 
Joe

RE: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Geoff Howard]

Definitely go carefully through Andrew's list of checks first
but I don't think that's your problem.

Change your port back to 3306 or get rid of it from your connect
string.  8080 is the tomcat port, but not the mysql port (by
default at least - if you overrode that in configuring mysql
and set it to 8080 then you'll need to fix that!)

How did you get your version of cocoon?  I assume you downloaded
a distribution like cocoon-2.0.4-vm14-bin.zip.  If you still have
this around, or can reconstruct/remember which one you chose
make sure you did _NOT_ get the one above but instead got
cocoon-2.0.4-bin.zip.  The excalibur project classes that
handle the datasource pool had a version dependency on java
version.  Since you're using JDK 1.3, if you are trying to
use the cocoon release for JDK 1.4 you'll get this exception.

You should also be able to go to lib\ and look for the excalibur
datasource jar (don't remember if all excalibur classes were
bundled together or separate in 2.0.4 release) - it should have
some kind of version info on it, including the target JDK it was
compiled for.  If there is a conflict you have a couple of choices:
- Switch to JDK 1.4 OR
- Download the correct cocoon dist. OR
- Replace the excalibur datasource jar with the version from the other
distribution.  This may not work, but if you're on a slow dialup and
can find someone to send you the right version of just that jar, it's
worth a shot first.

For some reason I seem to remember this also being thrown with
a permissions problem in mysql.  I thought that root usually
got full access from all hosts and can't find any messages in
the archives along these lines so perhaps I'm wrong. But if
clearing up the jdk dependency doesn't work, try explicitly
giving root access to the database you're using for the wildcard
host: %.  I seem to remember that mysql does not think you're
coming from localhost when you connect via jdbc.  You'll need to
consult the mysql manual for the grant command.

I noticed your jar was in a tomcat lib directory.  You may want to
follow Andrew's advice and move it to the WEB-INF\lib\ directory.
Should work either place, but there are some classloader subtleties
that could be throwing things off.

Geoff

> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Coultard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
> (NoValidConnectionException)
>
>
> Hi HTH,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion but that didn't work - I'm still
> getting the same
> message (even after re-starting the server and deleting the work
> directory).
>
> I have read the readme enclosed with the jar but to my uneducated eye it
> does not seem to enclose a ref to what I should call the class.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Phil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 April 2003 19:20
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: AW: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
> (NoValidConnectionException)
>
>
> hi phil,
>
> please try com.mysql.jdbc.Driver as the driver class. that should
> work. your
> dburl seems to be correct.
>
> otherwise have a look into your mysql-connector jar. there should be a
> README inside.
>
> HTH
>
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Auftrag von Phil Coultard
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 4. April 2003 19:53
> > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Betreff: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
> > (NoValidConnectionException)
> >
> >
> > Geoff: Thanks for all your help, you are a star.
> >
> > Big apologies from a newbie struggling with the basics of Cocoon...
> >
> > I have run into yet another problem which I don't seem to be able to get
> > over...
> >
> > This time I am trying to connect to a MySQL db but get the message:
> >
> > ERROR   (2003-04-04) 16:18.09:150   [sitemap.generator.serverpages]
> > (/ltd_coultard/mount/com_coultard/tickets) Thread-10/tickets_xsp:
> > Could not
> > get the datasource
> > org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.NoValidConnectionException:
> >  No valid
> > JdbcConnection class available
> >
> > in the error log file
> > (tomcat/webapps/applicationname/WEB-INF/logs/error.log) when I
> run my xsp
> > (enclosed below)
> >
> > I am also new to MySQL but am familiar with MSSQL so...
> >
> > I have:
> > -made the db (called coultard) and made sure MySQL is running (it
> > works fine
> > solo)
> > -put the MySQL db jar file
> (mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stable-

RE: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Andrew Savory]

Hi Phil,

On Sat, 5 Apr 2003, Phil Coultard wrote:

> Frustrated and feeling rather thick,

Don't worry, I've spent many hours on db connection problems, it's always
a sticking point and a nightmare to get sorted out.

Here's some step-by-step checks (worth repeating, as typos are often the
problem!):

1) Is the mysql server running and accepting connections?

- Test this using the mysql command-line client:

  mysql -D your_db_name -h localhost -P 3306 -pyour_password -u your_user

  Make sure you can select the information you want to use in the XSP (to
  ensure the user you're connecting as has rights to the db and the
  table):

  SELECT foo FROM bar;

- Test connections with telnet:

  telnet localhost 3306
  (you should see something like "3.23.56-log$8,u+r}>" which shows you
  can at least connect to localhost)

2) Is the (right) mysql jar available?

- Check that you downloaded the correct jar for your JDK, as jdbc
connectors are java version-specific.

- Check in $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/cocoon/WEB-INF/lib/ for the presence of
mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-bin.jar or similar.

- Check that it is correctly referenced in WEB-INF/web.xml:


  load-class
  

com.mysql.jdbc.Driver
  


3) Is the Cocoon database connection pool configured?

- Check that it's correctly configured in WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf:

  

  
  jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/your_db_name
  your_user
  your_password

  

4) Is the XSP written correctly?

- Try the simplest possible XSP that could work, first:



http://apache.org/xsp"; 
xmlns:esql="http://apache.org/cocoon/SQL/v2";>

  


  your_db_name
  
SELECT foo FROM bar

  

  

  


  



That said, from looking at what you've done so far, you've got everything
correct :-/


Andrew.

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RE: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Phil Coultard]

Hi Marco,

Thanks for your help in pointing me to the right section of the README

I have replaced the driver ref with the right string but I'm still getting
the same error message when I try to run the xsp.

Jens,

Thanks for your suggestion too of including the port number in the .xconf
dburl in the form jdbc:mysql://localhost:8080/dbname but that just
makes the server startup procedure hang half way through. I don't really
understand why this is.

Frustrated and feeling rather thick,

Phil

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Sent: 04 April 2003 23:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AW: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
(NoValidConnectionException)


first, HTH = Hope That Helps ;-), my first name is marco,

my mysql driver jar's name is 'mysql-connector-java-2.0.14-bin.jar' (which
is in WEB-INF/lib).

within the jar I have a file README. a snip from the section 'USAGE AND
INSTALLATION':

...
If you are going to use the driver with the JDBC DriverManager, you would
use
"com.mysql.jdbc.Driver" as the class that implements java.sql.Driver.

You might use this name in a Class.forName() call to load the driver:

Class.forName("com.mysql.jdbc.Driver").newInstance();

To connect to the database, you need to use a JDBC url with the following
format ([xxx] denotes optional url components):


jdbc:mysql://[hostname][:port]/[dbname][?param1=value1][¶m2=value2].

URL Parameters (can be passed as properties in
DriverManager.getConnection() as well):
...

so the driver class to load at startup in my case is com.mysql.jdbc.Driver.

the README also lists URL parameters that can be supplied in the driver url.

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Auftrag von Phil Coultard
> Gesendet: Freitag, 4. April 2003 22:40
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: RE: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
> (NoValidConnectionException)
>
>
> Hi HTH,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion but that didn't work - I'm still
> getting the same
> message (even after re-starting the server and deleting the work
> directory).
>
> I have read the readme enclosed with the jar but to my uneducated eye it
> does not seem to enclose a ref to what I should call the class.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Phil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 April 2003 19:20
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: AW: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
> (NoValidConnectionException)
>
>
> hi phil,
>
> please try com.mysql.jdbc.Driver as the driver class. that should
> work. your
> dburl seems to be correct.
>
> otherwise have a look into your mysql-connector jar. there should be a
> README inside.
>
> HTH
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Auftrag von Phil Coultard
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 4. April 2003 19:53
> > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Betreff: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
> > (NoValidConnectionException)
> >
> >
> > Geoff: Thanks for all your help, you are a star.
> >
> > Big apologies from a newbie struggling with the basics of Cocoon...
> >
> > I have run into yet another problem which I don't seem to be able to get
> > over...
> >
> > This time I am trying to connect to a MySQL db but get the message:
> >
> > ERROR   (2003-04-04) 16:18.09:150   [sitemap.generator.serverpages]
> > (/ltd_coultard/mount/com_coultard/tickets) Thread-10/tickets_xsp:
> > Could not
> > get the datasource
> > org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.NoValidConnectionException:
> >  No valid
> > JdbcConnection class available
> >
> > in the error log file
> > (tomcat/webapps/applicationname/WEB-INF/logs/error.log) when I
> run my xsp
> > (enclosed below)
> >
> > I am also new to MySQL but am familiar with MSSQL so...
> >
> > I have:
> > -made the db (called coultard) and made sure MySQL is running (it
> > works fine
> > solo)
> > -put the MySQL db jar file
> (mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stable-bin.jar) in
> > C:\tomcat\common\lib
> > -put the init-param for preloading the driver in web.xml as below.
> > -defined the connection pool as below
> > -attempted to run the xsp below
> >
> > I just spits out the title of the page and the session user
> value (which I
> > have set via a login script) which would be consistent with
> their being no
> > results except the same sql statement returns results if run directly in
> > MySQL and the erro

AW: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Marco Rolappe]

first, HTH = Hope That Helps ;-), my first name is marco,

my mysql driver jar's name is 'mysql-connector-java-2.0.14-bin.jar' (which
is in WEB-INF/lib).

within the jar I have a file README. a snip from the section 'USAGE AND
INSTALLATION':

...
If you are going to use the driver with the JDBC DriverManager, you would
use
"com.mysql.jdbc.Driver" as the class that implements java.sql.Driver.

You might use this name in a Class.forName() call to load the driver:

Class.forName("com.mysql.jdbc.Driver").newInstance();

To connect to the database, you need to use a JDBC url with the following
format ([xxx] denotes optional url components):


jdbc:mysql://[hostname][:port]/[dbname][?param1=value1][¶m2=value2].

URL Parameters (can be passed as properties in
DriverManager.getConnection() as well):
...

so the driver class to load at startup in my case is com.mysql.jdbc.Driver.

the README also lists URL parameters that can be supplied in the driver url.

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Auftrag von Phil Coultard
> Gesendet: Freitag, 4. April 2003 22:40
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: RE: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
> (NoValidConnectionException)
>
>
> Hi HTH,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion but that didn't work - I'm still
> getting the same
> message (even after re-starting the server and deleting the work
> directory).
>
> I have read the readme enclosed with the jar but to my uneducated eye it
> does not seem to enclose a ref to what I should call the class.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Phil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 April 2003 19:20
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: AW: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
> (NoValidConnectionException)
>
>
> hi phil,
>
> please try com.mysql.jdbc.Driver as the driver class. that should
> work. your
> dburl seems to be correct.
>
> otherwise have a look into your mysql-connector jar. there should be a
> README inside.
>
> HTH
>
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Auftrag von Phil Coultard
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 4. April 2003 19:53
> > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Betreff: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
> > (NoValidConnectionException)
> >
> >
> > Geoff: Thanks for all your help, you are a star.
> >
> > Big apologies from a newbie struggling with the basics of Cocoon...
> >
> > I have run into yet another problem which I don't seem to be able to get
> > over...
> >
> > This time I am trying to connect to a MySQL db but get the message:
> >
> > ERROR   (2003-04-04) 16:18.09:150   [sitemap.generator.serverpages]
> > (/ltd_coultard/mount/com_coultard/tickets) Thread-10/tickets_xsp:
> > Could not
> > get the datasource
> > org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.NoValidConnectionException:
> >  No valid
> > JdbcConnection class available
> >
> > in the error log file
> > (tomcat/webapps/applicationname/WEB-INF/logs/error.log) when I
> run my xsp
> > (enclosed below)
> >
> > I am also new to MySQL but am familiar with MSSQL so...
> >
> > I have:
> > -made the db (called coultard) and made sure MySQL is running (it
> > works fine
> > solo)
> > -put the MySQL db jar file
> (mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stable-bin.jar) in
> > C:\tomcat\common\lib
> > -put the init-param for preloading the driver in web.xml as below.
> > -defined the connection pool as below
> > -attempted to run the xsp below
> >
> > I just spits out the title of the page and the session user
> value (which I
> > have set via a login script) which would be consistent with
> their being no
> > results except the same sql statement returns results if run directly in
> > MySQL and the error message suggests to me it's not even
> getting that far.
> >
> > I am using:
> > Win 98
> > JDK 1.3.1
> > Tomcat 4.1.24
> > Cocoon 2.0.4
> >
> > MySQL 4.0.12Win
> > jar file from: mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stable
> >
> > What confuses me is that my book (Cocoon developers handbook) assures me
> > that any errors preloading the driver or defining the
> connection pool will
> > be thrown up when they are attempted (when the application
> > starts) and shown
> > in access.log and core.log respectfully. My entries in these
> two logs look
> > fine:
> >
> > -

Re[2]: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Jens Maukisch]

Hi,

maybe you should include the port in your dburl
jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/coultard

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RE: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Phil Coultard]

Hi HTH,

Thanks for your suggestion but that didn't work - I'm still getting the same
message (even after re-starting the server and deleting the work directory).

I have read the readme enclosed with the jar but to my uneducated eye it
does not seem to enclose a ref to what I should call the class.

Kind Regards

Phil

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: AW: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
(NoValidConnectionException)


hi phil,

please try com.mysql.jdbc.Driver as the driver class. that should work. your
dburl seems to be correct.

otherwise have a look into your mysql-connector jar. there should be a
README inside.

HTH

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Auftrag von Phil Coultard
> Gesendet: Freitag, 4. April 2003 19:53
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
> (NoValidConnectionException)
>
>
> Geoff: Thanks for all your help, you are a star.
>
> Big apologies from a newbie struggling with the basics of Cocoon...
>
> I have run into yet another problem which I don't seem to be able to get
> over...
>
> This time I am trying to connect to a MySQL db but get the message:
>
> ERROR   (2003-04-04) 16:18.09:150   [sitemap.generator.serverpages]
> (/ltd_coultard/mount/com_coultard/tickets) Thread-10/tickets_xsp:
> Could not
> get the datasource
> org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.NoValidConnectionException:
>  No valid
> JdbcConnection class available
>
> in the error log file
> (tomcat/webapps/applicationname/WEB-INF/logs/error.log) when I run my xsp
> (enclosed below)
>
> I am also new to MySQL but am familiar with MSSQL so...
>
> I have:
> -made the db (called coultard) and made sure MySQL is running (it
> works fine
> solo)
> -put the MySQL db jar file (mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stable-bin.jar) in
> C:\tomcat\common\lib
> -put the init-param for preloading the driver in web.xml as below.
> -defined the connection pool as below
> -attempted to run the xsp below
>
> I just spits out the title of the page and the session user value (which I
> have set via a login script) which would be consistent with their being no
> results except the same sql statement returns results if run directly in
> MySQL and the error message suggests to me it's not even getting that far.
>
> I am using:
> Win 98
> JDK 1.3.1
> Tomcat 4.1.24
> Cocoon 2.0.4
>
> MySQL 4.0.12Win
> jar file from: mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stable
>
> What confuses me is that my book (Cocoon developers handbook) assures me
> that any errors preloading the driver or defining the connection pool will
> be thrown up when they are attempted (when the application
> starts) and shown
> in access.log and core.log respectfully. My entries in these two logs look
> fine:
>
> --
> --
> 
> DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.22:850   [access] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/CocoonServlet: Trying to load class:
> org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver
> --
> --
> 
>
> --
> --
> 
> DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:010   [core.manager] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/DefaultComponentFactory: logger attribute is
> core.datasources.coultard
> DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:390   [core.manager] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/ThreadSafeComponentHandler: ComponentHandler
> initialized for:
> org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.ResourceLimitingJdbcDataSource
> DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:390   [core.manager] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/ExcaliburComponentSelector: Adding
> org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.ResourceLimitingJdbcDataSource for
> hint [coultard]
> DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:390   [core.manager] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/ThreadSafeComponentHandler: ComponentHandler
> initialized for:
> org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.ExcaliburComponentSelector
> --
> --
> 
>
> And yet the error thrown when I try to load the page rather suggests to me
> that it can't find, or hasn't 'installed' the jar file properly...
>
> On the assumption that the preload and connection pool substantiations are
> working I have two theories (which I'm sure are probably wrong!)
> 1. That the org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver is incorrect. I got this
> value from my book  but it is sadly for an older MySQL driver. I
> notice the
>

AW: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Marco Rolappe]

hi phil,

please try com.mysql.jdbc.Driver as the driver class. that should work. your
dburl seems to be correct.

otherwise have a look into your mysql-connector jar. there should be a
README inside.

HTH

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Auftrag von Phil Coultard
> Gesendet: Freitag, 4. April 2003 19:53
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access
> (NoValidConnectionException)
>
>
> Geoff: Thanks for all your help, you are a star.
>
> Big apologies from a newbie struggling with the basics of Cocoon...
>
> I have run into yet another problem which I don't seem to be able to get
> over...
>
> This time I am trying to connect to a MySQL db but get the message:
>
> ERROR   (2003-04-04) 16:18.09:150   [sitemap.generator.serverpages]
> (/ltd_coultard/mount/com_coultard/tickets) Thread-10/tickets_xsp:
> Could not
> get the datasource
> org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.NoValidConnectionException:
>  No valid
> JdbcConnection class available
>
> in the error log file
> (tomcat/webapps/applicationname/WEB-INF/logs/error.log) when I run my xsp
> (enclosed below)
>
> I am also new to MySQL but am familiar with MSSQL so...
>
> I have:
> -made the db (called coultard) and made sure MySQL is running (it
> works fine
> solo)
> -put the MySQL db jar file (mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stable-bin.jar) in
> C:\tomcat\common\lib
> -put the init-param for preloading the driver in web.xml as below.
> -defined the connection pool as below
> -attempted to run the xsp below
>
> I just spits out the title of the page and the session user value (which I
> have set via a login script) which would be consistent with their being no
> results except the same sql statement returns results if run directly in
> MySQL and the error message suggests to me it's not even getting that far.
>
> I am using:
> Win 98
> JDK 1.3.1
> Tomcat 4.1.24
> Cocoon 2.0.4
>
> MySQL 4.0.12Win
> jar file from: mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stable
>
> What confuses me is that my book (Cocoon developers handbook) assures me
> that any errors preloading the driver or defining the connection pool will
> be thrown up when they are attempted (when the application
> starts) and shown
> in access.log and core.log respectfully. My entries in these two logs look
> fine:
>
> --
> --
> 
> DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.22:850   [access] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/CocoonServlet: Trying to load class:
> org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver
> --
> --
> 
>
> --
> --
> 
> DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:010   [core.manager] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/DefaultComponentFactory: logger attribute is
> core.datasources.coultard
> DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:390   [core.manager] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/ThreadSafeComponentHandler: ComponentHandler
> initialized for:
> org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.ResourceLimitingJdbcDataSource
> DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:390   [core.manager] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/ExcaliburComponentSelector: Adding
> org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.ResourceLimitingJdbcDataSource for
> hint [coultard]
> DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:390   [core.manager] (Unknown-URI)
> Unknown-thread/ThreadSafeComponentHandler: ComponentHandler
> initialized for:
> org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.ExcaliburComponentSelector
> --
> --
> 
>
> And yet the error thrown when I try to load the page rather suggests to me
> that it can't find, or hasn't 'installed' the jar file properly...
>
> On the assumption that the preload and connection pool substantiations are
> working I have two theories (which I'm sure are probably wrong!)
> 1. That the org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver is incorrect. I got this
> value from my book  but it is sadly for an older MySQL driver. I
> notice the
> first line of the README which comes with the jar file reads "MySQL
> Connector/J 3.0.6 Stable (formerly MM.MySQL)" and was wondering if this
> change in naming convention is mirrored somehow in it. I have
> been unable to
> find a reference for the correct string for this value (MySQL referring to
> "read your servlet engine or application server vendor's documentation";
> Cocoon seemingly not making a reference to what these strings should be
> ex

Newbie: yet ANOTHER problem: db access (NoValidConnectionException)

[Phil Coultard]

Geoff: Thanks for all your help, you are a star.

Big apologies from a newbie struggling with the basics of Cocoon...

I have run into yet another problem which I don't seem to be able to get
over...

This time I am trying to connect to a MySQL db but get the message:

ERROR   (2003-04-04) 16:18.09:150   [sitemap.generator.serverpages]
(/ltd_coultard/mount/com_coultard/tickets) Thread-10/tickets_xsp: Could not
get the datasource
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.NoValidConnectionException: No valid
JdbcConnection class available

in the error log file
(tomcat/webapps/applicationname/WEB-INF/logs/error.log) when I run my xsp
(enclosed below)

I am also new to MySQL but am familiar with MSSQL so...

I have:
-made the db (called coultard) and made sure MySQL is running (it works fine
solo)
-put the MySQL db jar file (mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stable-bin.jar) in
C:\tomcat\common\lib
-put the init-param for preloading the driver in web.xml as below.
-defined the connection pool as below
-attempted to run the xsp below

I just spits out the title of the page and the session user value (which I
have set via a login script) which would be consistent with their being no
results except the same sql statement returns results if run directly in
MySQL and the error message suggests to me it's not even getting that far.

I am using:
Win 98
JDK 1.3.1
Tomcat 4.1.24
Cocoon 2.0.4

MySQL 4.0.12Win
jar file from: mysql-connector-java-3.0.6-stable

What confuses me is that my book (Cocoon developers handbook) assures me
that any errors preloading the driver or defining the connection pool will
be thrown up when they are attempted (when the application starts) and shown
in access.log and core.log respectfully. My entries in these two logs look
fine:



DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.22:850   [access] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/CocoonServlet: Trying to load class: org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver





DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:010   [core.manager] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/DefaultComponentFactory: logger attribute is
core.datasources.coultard
DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:390   [core.manager] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/ThreadSafeComponentHandler: ComponentHandler initialized for:
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.ResourceLimitingJdbcDataSource
DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:390   [core.manager] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/ExcaliburComponentSelector: Adding
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.datasource.ResourceLimitingJdbcDataSource for
hint [coultard]
DEBUG   (2003-04-04) 16:14.24:390   [core.manager] (Unknown-URI)
Unknown-thread/ThreadSafeComponentHandler: ComponentHandler initialized for:
org.apache.avalon.excalibur.component.ExcaliburComponentSelector



And yet the error thrown when I try to load the page rather suggests to me
that it can't find, or hasn't 'installed' the jar file properly...

On the assumption that the preload and connection pool substantiations are
working I have two theories (which I'm sure are probably wrong!)
1. That the org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver is incorrect. I got this
value from my book  but it is sadly for an older MySQL driver. I notice the
first line of the README which comes with the jar file reads "MySQL
Connector/J 3.0.6 Stable (formerly MM.MySQL)" and was wondering if this
change in naming convention is mirrored somehow in it. I have been unable to
find a reference for the correct string for this value (MySQL referring to
"read your servlet engine or application server vendor's documentation";
Cocoon seemingly not making a reference to what these strings should be
except for the commented WebSphere, Oracle and IBMWebshpere). Further
attempts to substantiate this theory and attempts at guessing its value have
been unfruitful.

2. That my reference to the dburl is incorrect. My db is physically located
in C:\mysql\data\ and not under the tomcat/webapps dir so I was wondering if
this had any influence on the matter.


Thankfully

Phil




extract from tomcat/webapps/applicationname/WEB-INF/web.xml



  load-class
  
org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver
  




extract from tomcat/webapps/applicationname/WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf


  
  

  
  false
  jdbc:mysql://localhost/coultard
  root
  

  

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Re: Question from a newbie

[Sean McCormick]

Jeff,

You've made my day - thank you so much! I've just ordered both Cocoon
books that are available from New Riders.

Sean
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Free desktop wallpaper for download.

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From: "Jeff Sallade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: Question from a newbie


: Sean,
:
: This is exaclty the type of application that is demonstrated in
: the book, "Cocoon:  Building XML Applications" by Matthew Langham
: and Carsten Ziegeler, published by New Riders.  There are 3 versions
: of a news portal that increase in complexity.  I have found the
: book to be a great resource for Cocoon in general and it should
: have exactly what you need.  I'm sure the book is widely available.
:
: Jeff Sallade


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RE: Question from a newbie

[Jeff Sallade]

Sean,

This is exaclty the type of application that is demonstrated in
the book, "Cocoon:  Building XML Applications" by Matthew Langham
and Carsten Ziegeler, published by New Riders.  There are 3 versions
of a news portal that increase in complexity.  I have found the
book to be a great resource for Cocoon in general and it should
have exactly what you need.  I'm sure the book is widely available.

Jeff Sallade

-Original Message-
From: Sean McCormick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Question from a newbie


Hi folks,

I apologize in advance if this mailing list is not the appropriate
place for this question, but I think I've nearly worn out Google
trying to find the solution to my problem. I have been asked to locate
software that can dynamically create a newsletter from numerous RSS
feeds according to individual user preferences and then pass it along
to a message transfer agent.  Here is the process my boss envisions:

  1.. Readers subscribe to a newsletter, and specify the content areas
and sub-domains they would like to receive information on.

  2.. Each newsletter is dynamically generated with the content
specified by the individual subscriber.

  3.. The newsletter is emailed to the subscriber.

All of my research indicates that Apache Cocoon is practically manna
from heaven in this area, except that I can't find any examples of it
being used for e-mail applications - just Web applications. Is anyone
here aware of whether or not Cocoon can be put to work with dynamic
e-mail applications? If so, are there any examples I can show my boss?

Any information/advice is appreciated.

Regards,

Sean McCormick
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Question from a newbie

[Sean McCormick]

Hi folks,

I apologize in advance if this mailing list is not the appropriate
place for this question, but I think I've nearly worn out Google
trying to find the solution to my problem. I have been asked to locate
software that can dynamically create a newsletter from numerous RSS
feeds according to individual user preferences and then pass it along
to a message transfer agent.  Here is the process my boss envisions:

  1.. Readers subscribe to a newsletter, and specify the content areas
and sub-domains they would like to receive information on.

  2.. Each newsletter is dynamically generated with the content
specified by the individual subscriber.

  3.. The newsletter is emailed to the subscriber.

All of my research indicates that Apache Cocoon is practically manna
from heaven in this area, except that I can't find any examples of it
being used for e-mail applications - just Web applications. Is anyone
here aware of whether or not Cocoon can be put to work with dynamic
e-mail applications? If so, are there any examples I can show my boss?

Any information/advice is appreciated.

Regards,

Sean McCormick
---
Digiteyesed Photography
http://www.digiteyesed.com/
Free desktop wallpaper for download.


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Re: Tomcat problem (newbie)

[Joe Williams]

Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, but you can disregard the previous
message.

Joe


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Tomcat problem (newbie)

[Joe Williams]

After changing a parameter in my main sitemap, and then restoring the
original config, my Tomcat will not start.

Looking at the catalina.out log, I find the error pasted below. Clues,
please?

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError
 at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
 at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:115)
 at org.apache.jk.server.JkMain.newHandler(JkMain.java:556)
 at org.apache.jk.server.JkMain.processProperty(JkMain.java:537)
 at org.apache.jk.server.JkMain.processProperties(JkMain.java:505)
 at org.apache.jk.server.JkMain.start(JkMain.java:346)
 at org.apache.jk.server.JkCoyoteHandler.start(JkCoyoteHandler.java:169)
 at
org.apache.coyote.tomcat4.CoyoteConnector.start(CoyoteConnector.java:1056)
 at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService.java:506)
 at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.java:2189)
 at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:512)
 at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.execute(Catalina.java:400)
 at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.process(Catalina.java:180)
 at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
 at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:203)
[ERROR] JkMain - -Can't create channelSocket



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RE: Newbie: Ok I've got it installed but can't get a new stand alone application to run

[Geoff Howard]

> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Coultard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 7:04 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Newbie: Ok I've got it installed but can't get a new stand
> alone application to run
>



> Following Geoff's advice I have read the enclosed documentation and looked
> on http://wiki.cocoondev.org. However both sources seem to concentrate on
> the concepts and skip the more basic set-up procedures... Using these two
> sources I have set up "work" as a sub-dir of mount and put in it
> two files:
> sitemap.xmap and home.html, the source for which is shown below. When I
> browse to http://localhost:8080/cocoon/mount/work/ I receive the following
> message:

Ok, good way to get started playing around.

>
> Cocoon 2 - Resource not found
> --
> type resource-not-found
> message Resource not found
> description The requested URI "/cocoon/mount/work/home.html" was
> not found.
> sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet
> source Cocoon servlet
> request-uri
> /cocoon/mount/work/home.html
> path-info
> mount/work/home.html
>
> I can see that it clearly is getting as far as looking for the file
> home.html in the root folder of the app but I don't understand why it
> doesn't find it: it is there! Clearly I'm missing a point somewhere...

Yes, see below.

> --
> sitemap.xmap
> --
> 
> http://apache.org/cocoon/sitemap/1.0";>
>
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
>
>   
>   
>
>  
>



 
 

 




 
  
  

 



 
  
  

 


>
> 
>
>   
> 

Hope that helps,

Geoff

>
> --
> home.html
> --
> 
>
> 
> 
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Newbie: Ok I've got it installed but can't get a new stand alone application to run

[Phil Coultard]

Hi All,

Big thanks to Geoff Howard for his swift and fruitful reply to my last post.

I am just starting with Cocoon and I'm sorry to ask yet more what I'm sure
are stupid questions but...

Following Geoff's advice I have read the enclosed documentation and looked
on http://wiki.cocoondev.org. However both sources seem to concentrate on
the concepts and skip the more basic set-up procedures... Using these two
sources I have set up "work" as a sub-dir of mount and put in it two files:
sitemap.xmap and home.html, the source for which is shown below. When I
browse to http://localhost:8080/cocoon/mount/work/ I receive the following
message:

Cocoon 2 - Resource not found


type resource-not-found
message Resource not found
description The requested URI "/cocoon/mount/work/home.html" was not found.
sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet
source Cocoon servlet
request-uri
/cocoon/mount/work/home.html
path-info
mount/work/home.html

I can see that it clearly is getting as far as looking for the file
home.html in the root folder of the app but I don't understand why it
doesn't find it: it is there! Clearly I'm missing a point somewhere...

I am running:
Win 98
JDK 1.3.1
Tomcat 4.1.24
Cocoon 2.0.4

Cocoon runs ok: the examples work just fine.

Thanks in advance,

Kind Regards,

Phil Coultard





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RE: Cocoon installation error: Wrapper cannot find servlet class org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon from an ignorant newbie convert from Microsoft:-)

[Geoff Howard]

You may find some people still able to help you with cocoon 1.x, but I would
_highly_ suggest ignoring that now outdated chapter, and using the current
release version 2.0.4 which is significantly changed and improved from
the 1.8.x version.  You'll find good up to date installation instructions,
and
a lot more people here that will be able to help you if something goes
wrong.

There are several good books now available for Cocoon 2 if you want to go
that route, but you should also be able to make good headway using the
provided
documentation and samples, as well as the breeding ground for new
documentation,
http://wiki.cocoondev.org.

Hope that helps,
Geoff

> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Coultard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:51 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cocoon installation error: Wrapper cannot find servlet class
> org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon from an ignorant newbie convert from
> Microsoft:-)
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am a recent convert (only two weeks old) to Java, Tomcat et al from the
> world of Microsoft ASP and .Net. As such please forgive me for asking what
> I'm sure is a very basic question. However, I have checked the
> Cocoon FAQ's,
> read my books (Java, JavaServer Pages, Java and XML, O'Reilly)
> and searched
> the mail archive still drawing a blank.
>
> Basically I have installed Cocoon according to the instructions
> on the site
> (http://xml.apache.org/cocoon1/install.html) and also those in
> 'Java and XML
> Ch10 P.248 and I get the message:
> "Wrapper cannot find servlet class org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon or a class it
> depends on"
> (I include the complete error message below for your reference)
>
> I am Using:
> Win98 (boo hoo)
> Java 1.3.1
> Tomcat 4.1.24
> Cocoon 1.8.2
> I also have Personal Web Server installed but I have made no attempt to
> connect the two.
>
> Tomcat works fine: I have run several example scripts without fail.
>
> I have checked over my Cocoon installation several times and over several
> days (to allow for the "I DID do it right I'm SURE factor").
> I have noticed that I need to set up the files [TOMCAT
> HOME]/conf/server.xml
> slightly differently from the instructions which tell me to use the value:
>  I find this returns a 404 and only if I set it to
>  or remove it completely does it work. I assume this is down to my Tomcat
> being 4.1.24 rather than Brett McLaughlin's (Java and XML,
> O'Reilly) Tomcat
> 3.2.1 the comments preceding the section in the document supporting this:
>  "Define properties for each web application.  This is only
> needed
>  if you want to set non-default properties, or have web
> application
>  document roots in places other than the virtual
> host's appBase
>  directory"
>
> I have concluded (rightly or wrongly) the problem is that it
> can't find the
> cocoon.properties file which is referenced by the [TOMCAT
> HOME]/webapps/cocoon/WEB-INF/web.xml. The instructions tell me to set this
> to WEB-INF/cocoon.properties which I have tried but I have also played
> around with this value as cocoon/WEB-INF/cocoon.properties and
> cocoon.properties without success. I know it's a relative path so
> I haven't
> tried any absolute paths.
>
> It currently looks like this:
>  
>   org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon
>   org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon
>   
>properties
>WEB-INF/cocoon.properties
>   
>  
>
> Any help would be gratefully appreciated: I don't have much hair left to
> pull out!!
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Phil Coultard
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.coultard.com
>
> --
> --
> 
> Complete Error returned:
> --
> --
> 
> HTTP Status 503 - Servlet org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon is currently
> unavailable
>
> type Exception report
>
> message
>
> description The server encountered an internal error () that prevented it
> from fulfilling this request.
>
> exception
>
> javax.servlet.ServletException: Wrapper cannot find servlet class
> org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon or a class it depends on
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.loadServlet(StandardWrapp
> er.java:89
> 1)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.allocate(StandardWrapper.
> java:668)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapp
> erValve.ja
> va:210)
>   at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineVal

Cocoon installation error: Wrapper cannot find servlet class org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon from an ignorant newbie convert from Microsoft:-)

[Phil Coultard]

Hi,

I am a recent convert (only two weeks old) to Java, Tomcat et al from the
world of Microsoft ASP and .Net. As such please forgive me for asking what
I'm sure is a very basic question. However, I have checked the Cocoon FAQ's,
read my books (Java, JavaServer Pages, Java and XML, O'Reilly) and searched
the mail archive still drawing a blank.

Basically I have installed Cocoon according to the instructions on the site
(http://xml.apache.org/cocoon1/install.html) and also those in 'Java and XML
Ch10 P.248 and I get the message:
"Wrapper cannot find servlet class org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon or a class it
depends on"
(I include the complete error message below for your reference)

I am Using:
Win98 (boo hoo)
Java 1.3.1
Tomcat 4.1.24
Cocoon 1.8.2
I also have Personal Web Server installed but I have made no attempt to
connect the two.

Tomcat works fine: I have run several example scripts without fail.

I have checked over my Cocoon installation several times and over several
days (to allow for the "I DID do it right I'm SURE factor").
I have noticed that I need to set up the files [TOMCAT HOME]/conf/server.xml
slightly differently from the instructions which tell me to use the value:

  org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon
  org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon
  
   properties
   WEB-INF/cocoon.properties
  
 

Any help would be gratefully appreciated: I don't have much hair left to
pull out!!

Thanks in advance

Kind Regards,

Phil Coultard
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www.coultard.com



Complete Error returned:


HTTP Status 503 - Servlet org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon is currently unavailable

type Exception report

message

description The server encountered an internal error () that prevented it
from fulfilling this request.

exception

javax.servlet.ServletException: Wrapper cannot find servlet class
org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon or a class it depends on
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.loadServlet(StandardWrapper.java:89
1)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.allocate(StandardWrapper.java:668)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.ja
va:210)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:643)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:480)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:995)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.ja
va:191)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:643)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:480)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:995)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.invoke(StandardContext.java:2415)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:180
)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:643)
at
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorDispatcherValve.invoke(ErrorDispatcherValve.
java:171)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:641)
at
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:172
)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:641)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:480)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:995)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java
:174)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline$StandardPipelineValveContext.invok
eNext(StandardPipeline.java:643)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:480)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:995)
at org.apache.coyote.tomcat4.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:223)
at
org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:594)
at
org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.processConne
ction(Http11Protocol.java:392)
at
org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:565)
at
org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.jav
a:619)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)


root cause

java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon
at
org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader.loadClass(WebappClassLoader.jav
a:1443)
at
org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader.loadClass(WebappClassLoade

RE: Newbie question about CSS display

[Geoff Howard]

>From this line in the logs:
DEBUG (2003-03-28) 16:41:55.909 [sitemap] (/cocoon/book/book.css)
Thread-7/sitemap_xmap: Matched wildcard pattern book/*

it appears you have a match that you didn't refer to here:













are you sure there is no book/* pattern in your sitemap?
Move the *.css pattern to the beginning of that pipeline and
I bet you'll be in business.

> There is a *.css in the main sitemap. Would that conflict with this one in
> this sub-sitemap (cocoon/book/sitemap.xmap)?
>

No - **.css would, if it came _before_ the map:mount.  Don't forget that
pipeline
matches are tried in order and the first match is used.  A * wildcard
matches
any text except a file separator / which is why book/book.css wouldn't get
matched.
A ** though includes the separator and would match book/book.css unless
another
match gets there first.

HTH,
Geoff Howard

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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Newbie question about CSS display
>
>
> > Ah, interesting ;-) As I expected it ...
> >
> > Please have a look into the log files. You should get more information
> > there, e.g. something like a stacktrace. It seems, that the
> book.css can't
> be
> > found on the disk, where it should be to found (as you
> specified it in the
> > sitemap). But the pipeline matching on *.css you sent already in this
> thread looked
> > ok. Maybe another pipeline matches already earlier on *.css in the
> sitemap?
> >
> There is a *.css in the main sitemap. Would that conflict with this one in
> this sub-sitemap (cocoon/book/sitemap.xmap)?
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Re: Newbie question about CSS display--CORRECTION

[Joe Williams]

There is no *.css in main sitemap, but I have not looked through all the
files.
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Subject: Re: Newbie question about CSS display


> > Ah, interesting ;-) As I expected it ...
> >
> > Please have a look into the log files. You should get more information
> > there, e.g. something like a stacktrace. It seems, that the book.css
can't
> be
> > found on the disk, where it should be to found (as you specified it in
the
> > sitemap). But the pipeline matching on *.css you sent already in this
> thread looked
> > ok. Maybe another pipeline matches already earlier on *.css in the
> sitemap?
> >
> There is a *.css in the main sitemap. Would that conflict with this one in
> this sub-sitemap (cocoon/book/sitemap.xmap)?
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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joe Williams]

> Ah, interesting ;-) As I expected it ...
>
> Please have a look into the log files. You should get more information
> there, e.g. something like a stacktrace. It seems, that the book.css can't
be
> found on the disk, where it should be to found (as you specified it in the
> sitemap). But the pipeline matching on *.css you sent already in this
thread looked
> ok. Maybe another pipeline matches already earlier on *.css in the
sitemap?
>
There is a *.css in the main sitemap. Would that conflict with this one in
this sub-sitemap (cocoon/book/sitemap.xmap)?


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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joe Williams]

> 1. the file is not in the same directory as the xml (according to the
> earlier sent match patterns and pipelines),
> 2. the pipeline for the CSS does not look like the sent one
> 3. or there is another pipeline matching on *.css before the sent one. And
> this one searches for the CSS file on another place on the disk.
>
> A look into the log file, especially for stacktraces, will help I think.
> Maybe one can see a FileNotFoundException (or Resource...) with the
specified
> path, where the file was searched for.
>
In access.log:

WARN (2003--3-28) 16:41.55.945 [access] (/cocoon/book/book.css)
Thread-7/CocoonServlet: The resource was not found
org.apache.cocoon.ResourceNotFoundException: No pipeline matched request:
book/book.css

In sitemap.log:

DEBUG (2003-03-28) 16:41:55.909 [sitemap] (/cocoon/book/book.css)
Thread-7/sitemap_xmap: Matched wildcard pattern book/*
DEBUG (2003-03-28) 16:41:55.909 [sitemap] (/cocoon/book/book.css)
Thread-7/AbstractSitemap:
Current Sitemap Parameters:
PARAM: VALUE: 'book.css'
PARAM: '0' VALUE: 'book'/book.css'


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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Jörg Heinicke]

> > This only for clarification. Test the stylesheet independent of the
> DocBook
> > HTML with "http://myserver:8080/cocoon/book/book.css";. If you get it,
> hmm,
> I
> > don't know. If not, what do you get?
> >
> When I follow the suggestion to access the CSS alone, I get this error:
> 
> type resource-not-found
> 
> message Resource not found
> 
> description The requested URI "/cocoon/book/book.css" was not found.
> 
> sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet
> 
> source Cocoon servlet
> 
> request-uri
> 
> /cocoon/book/book.css
> 
> path-info
> 
> book/book.css

Stupid mail client, simply ignores the reply-to header ...

I wrote, that the above error message is probably caused by the not found
CSS file on a place, where it should be to found, because it's specified in the
sitemap. There can not be many reasons:
1. the file is not in the same directory as the xml (according to the
earlier sent match patterns and pipelines),
2. the pipeline for the CSS does not look like the sent one
3. or there is another pipeline matching on *.css before the sent one. And
this one searches for the CSS file on another place on the disk.

A look into the log file, especially for stacktraces, will help I think.
Maybe one can see a FileNotFoundException (or Resource...) with the specified
path, where the file was searched for.

Regards,

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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joe Williams]

When I try to reach the CSS directly, I get a Cocoon error (see below).

> What do you want to reach with
>
> 
>
> ?? Do you have a global  in your
book.xsl?

No, I do not. I commented that line out, and the link to the CSS still
appears in the HTML result, so it obviously doesn't do anything useful here.
Not sure why I put that in there, except for my newbieness...just hacking
around to see if I could get it to work.

> This only for clarification. Test the stylesheet independent of the
DocBook
> HTML with "http://myserver:8080/cocoon/book/book.css";. If you get it, hmm,
I
> don't know. If not, what do you get?
>
When I follow the suggestion to access the CSS alone, I get this error:

type resource-not-found

message Resource not found

description The requested URI "/cocoon/book/book.css" was not found.

sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet

source Cocoon servlet

request-uri

/cocoon/book/book.css

path-info

book/book.css



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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joerg Heinicke]

Hello Joe,

Joe Williams wrote:
Thanks for the response, let me see if this makes things clearer.

I'm not getting an error message, but the formatting changes to the DocBook
XSL (by means of my CSS) do not appear in the browser.
The URL:

http://myserver:8080/cocoon/book/book

This succeeds in calling the document. When I view the source of the
displayed HTML, the link to the CSS stylesheet appears:

so far everything seems to be clear and ok. Try to access

http://myserver:8080/cocoon/book/book.css

in your browser to see if you get the CSS.

Therefore, I expect the changes to appear, but they do not. The CSS is in
the same directory ("book") as the XML source ("book.xml") the XSL
stylesheet ("book.xsl") and the CSS ("book.css")
This is more or less not interesting for the browser. Important is only the 
mapping in the sitemap. You wrote already you have the following two pipelines:


  


  


  
  

  

Only here (= for the sitemap) the directories are interesting. As you wrote 
the pipeline it's correct to have both files in the same directory.

What do you want to reach with



?? Do you have a global  in your book.xsl? 
Otherwise the  is useless. You already configured your 
DocBook with



and that's correct.

This only for clarification. Test the stylesheet independent of the DocBook 
HTML with "http://myserver:8080/cocoon/book/book.css";. If you get it, hmm, I 
don't know. If not, what do you get?

I have not tried Lionel's suggestions yet, but will do so.
Sorry, but this won't help you much. You don't want to include the CSS in 
the DocBook HTML, but a  element refering to the CSS. So you only must 
pass the CSS's name and not the CSS itself to the XSLT stylesheet.

Using document('host:8080/book.css') won't work either, because you can't 
read text with it, only XML.

And the third suggestion using a  can break the 
DocBook transformation completely. Use the parameterization as suggested by 
Norman Walsh and as you already did it.

Regards,

Joerg

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From: "Joerg Heinicke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello Joe,

you don't give very exact error description, only "it does not work". So
it's only possible to guess. Or you give us more information.
I guess the error is a missing or a wrong match for the CSS.

The information you can provide:

1. Which URL do you type in the browser for the Cocoon delivered HTML.

2. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the docbook
transformation look like.
3. How does the  tag for the CSS in the generated HTML look like?

4. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the CSS look
like?

The transformation offline or in Cocoon may be different (but I don't
really

think so), but has nothing to do with the loading of the CSS.

Regards,

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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joe Williams]

Thanks for the response, let me see if this makes things clearer.

I'm not getting an error message, but the formatting changes to the DocBook
XSL (by means of my CSS) do not appear in the browser.

The URL:

http://myserver:8080/cocoon/book/book

This succeeds in calling the document. When I view the source of the
displayed HTML, the link to the CSS stylesheet appears:



Therefore, I expect the changes to appear, but they do not. The CSS is in
the same directory ("book") as the XML source ("book.xml") the XSL
stylesheet ("book.xsl") and the CSS ("book.css")

I have not tried Lionel's suggestions yet, but will do so.


- Original Message -
From: "Joerg Heinicke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: Newbie question about CSS display


> Hello Joe,
>
> you don't give very exact error description, only "it does not work". So
> it's only possible to guess. Or you give us more information.
>
> I guess the error is a missing or a wrong match for the CSS.
>
> The information you can provide:
>
> 1. Which URL do you type in the browser for the Cocoon delivered HTML.
>
> 2. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the docbook
> transformation look like.
>
> 3. How does the  tag for the CSS in the generated HTML look like?
>
> 4. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the CSS look
like?
>
> The transformation offline or in Cocoon may be different (but I don't
really
> think so), but has nothing to do with the loading of the CSS.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joerg
>
> Joe Williams wrote:
> > Forgive the elementary nature of this question, but I am new to Cocoon,
my
> > background is documentation and not development, and I have read and
> > searched for an explanation for this weirdness without success.
> >
> > Using DocBook XML and the DocBook XSL with a customization layer, I want
to
> > change the styles using a CSS.
> >
> > My formatting changes are displayed when I run the transformation from
the
> > command line, but not when I use Cocoon.
> >
> > Is this to be expected, or what? Does the transformation occur
differently
> > when using Cocoon than when using Xalan alone?
> >
> > A helpful link or answer would be appreciated.
>
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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Lionel Crine]

It's a little bit confused but if you want to do it.

You should declare do :





then :





  --> I'm 
not really sure value attribute can get a cocoon protocol, but why not.





In the xsl document :

 --> I'm not sure this 
is working because if you want to call an URL, you  should use the 
document() fonction like this.  document('host:8080/book.css").
text/css



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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joe Williams]

The link to the stylesheet appears in the HTML output.

I am using a sub-sitemap with the pipeline:














And I am adding the parameters to my DocBook customization layer, per Norm
and Bob's documentation:


text/css

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Subject: Re: Newbie question about CSS display


Check your sitemap ... You probably don't have the correct pipeline/match
for
it.

> Forgive the elementary nature of this question, but I am new to Cocoon, my
> background is documentation and not development, and I have read and
> searched for an explanation for this weirdness without success.
>
> Using DocBook XML and the DocBook XSL with a customization layer, I want
to
> change the styles using a CSS.
>
> My formatting changes are displayed when I run the transformation from the
> command line, but not when I use Cocoon.
>
> Is this to be expected, or what? Does the transformation occur differently
> when using Cocoon than when using Xalan alone?
>
> A helpful link or answer would be appreciated.
>
>
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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Lionel Crine]

Joe,

you're question is so wide.

Here is how I use a CSS in an XSL file.

load the CSS.


  

  

load the file :


  
  
  

In the XSL file :


  
   
   --> link 
to the style.
   
   

   
  




hope this help.
At 17:19 28/03/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Hello Joe,

you don't give very exact error description, only "it does not work". So 
it's only possible to guess. Or you give us more information.

I guess the error is a missing or a wrong match for the CSS.

The information you can provide:

1. Which URL do you type in the browser for the Cocoon delivered HTML.

2. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the docbook 
transformation look like.

3. How does the  tag for the CSS in the generated HTML look like?

4. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the CSS look like?

The transformation offline or in Cocoon may be different (but I don't 
really think so), but has nothing to do with the loading of the CSS.

Regards,

Joerg

Joe Williams wrote:
Forgive the elementary nature of this question, but I am new to Cocoon, my
background is documentation and not development, and I have read and
searched for an explanation for this weirdness without success.
Using DocBook XML and the DocBook XSL with a customization layer, I want to
change the styles using a CSS.
My formatting changes are displayed when I run the transformation from the
command line, but not when I use Cocoon.
Is this to be expected, or what? Does the transformation occur differently
when using Cocoon than when using Xalan alone?
A helpful link or answer would be appreciated.
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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Joerg Heinicke]

Hello Joe,

you don't give very exact error description, only "it does not work". So 
it's only possible to guess. Or you give us more information.

I guess the error is a missing or a wrong match for the CSS.

The information you can provide:

1. Which URL do you type in the browser for the Cocoon delivered HTML.

2. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the docbook 
transformation look like.

3. How does the  tag for the CSS in the generated HTML look like?

4. How does the according match pattern in the sitemap for the CSS look like?

The transformation offline or in Cocoon may be different (but I don't really 
think so), but has nothing to do with the loading of the CSS.

Regards,

Joerg

Joe Williams wrote:
Forgive the elementary nature of this question, but I am new to Cocoon, my
background is documentation and not development, and I have read and
searched for an explanation for this weirdness without success.
Using DocBook XML and the DocBook XSL with a customization layer, I want to
change the styles using a CSS.
My formatting changes are displayed when I run the transformation from the
command line, but not when I use Cocoon.
Is this to be expected, or what? Does the transformation occur differently
when using Cocoon than when using Xalan alone?
A helpful link or answer would be appreciated.
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Re: Newbie question about CSS display

[Yves Vindevogel]

Check your sitemap ... You probably don't have the correct pipeline/match for 
it.

> Forgive the elementary nature of this question, but I am new to Cocoon, my
> background is documentation and not development, and I have read and
> searched for an explanation for this weirdness without success.
>
> Using DocBook XML and the DocBook XSL with a customization layer, I want to
> change the styles using a CSS.
>
> My formatting changes are displayed when I run the transformation from the
> command line, but not when I use Cocoon.
>
> Is this to be expected, or what? Does the transformation occur differently
> when using Cocoon than when using Xalan alone?
>
> A helpful link or answer would be appreciated.
>
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Newbie question about CSS display

[Joe Williams]

Forgive the elementary nature of this question, but I am new to Cocoon, my
background is documentation and not development, and I have read and
searched for an explanation for this weirdness without success.

Using DocBook XML and the DocBook XSL with a customization layer, I want to
change the styles using a CSS.

My formatting changes are displayed when I run the transformation from the
command line, but not when I use Cocoon.

Is this to be expected, or what? Does the transformation occur differently
when using Cocoon than when using Xalan alone?

A helpful link or answer would be appreciated.


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RE: Newbie: DocBook XSL success

[Joe Williams]

Thanks, Joerg.

I replaced the old xalan with Xalan-J 2.4.1 and the transformation works,
except for a problem with CSS.

For subsequent newbies looking for a setup that works, here's what I am
using.

Cocoon 2.0.3 with jre 1.3.1_06
DocBook XML DTD 4.2
DocBook XSL 1.5

The following .jar files are in the cocoon/WEB-INF/lib
xalan-2.4.1.jar

xalan2.jar (docbook extensions from Norm)

xercesImpl-2.0.0.jar

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Re: Newbie: Best practices for DocBook XSL on Cocoon

[Joerg Heinicke]

Hello Joe,

I used DocBook without any problems in Cocoon. It's a few months ago and 
I don't know what versions of Cocoon and Xalan I used. I guess it was 
Cocoon 2.0.3, Xalan 2.3.1 and DocBook 1.51. So try to test it with a 
more current version of DocBook (I don't have a file 
docbook/html/common/common.xsl, only docbook/common/common.xsl, but no 
line 1576). Furthermore it's possible, that it is a bug in Xalan 2.3.1, 
so try 2.4.1.

Regards,

Joerg

Joe Williams wrote:
I have a question about using DocBook XSL with Cocoon, for anyone who 
has been successful in doing so. In hopes of getting some help and maybe 
helping others, I offer the following background.
 
After reading numerous posts to the archives for this list, and other 
resources, I am aware that not everyone is in favor of using the DocBook 
XSL stylesheets with Cocoon. However, I have also found that some people 
have done so successfully, and would like to do so myself.
 
I have been successful in serving DocBook XML content with a homegrown 
XSL stylesheet and CSS, but when I attempted to use the DocBook XSL to 
produce html, I get a blank page. (The transform runs fine from the 
command line.)
 
Looking at cocoon/WEB-INF/logs/error.log I see a fatal exception in 
"docbook/html/common/common.xsl; Line 1576; Column 35", 
"javax.xml.transform.TransformerException: 13 >= 1" and farther down in 
the log, I see "java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 13 >= 1"
 
Going to "docbook/html/common/common.xsl; Line 1576; Column 35", I see 
the following:
 

 
OK, so xalan doesn't like this line, I guess?
 
Here's my setup:
 
Cocoon 2.0.3
 
Using these classes in /usr/tomcat/webapps/cocoon/WEB-INF/lib:
 
xalan-2.3.1.jar
 
xalan2.jar (docbook extensions from Norm)
 
xercesImpl-2.0.0.jar
 
xml-apis.jar
 
Using jre 1.3.1_06
 
DocBook XML DTD 4.2
 
DocBook XSL 1.5
 
I would like to keep using xalan, but if I have to add saxon, please 
point me to a good procedure for doing so. Ditto for any other suggestions.
 
When I get the setup working, I will post the info to the list.
 
Thanks.
 
Joe


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Newbie: Best practices for DocBook XSL on Cocoon

[Joe Williams]

I have a question about using DocBook XSL with 
Cocoon, for anyone who has been successful in doing so. In hopes of getting some 
help and maybe helping others, I offer the following background.
 
After reading numerous posts to the archives for 
this list, and other resources, I am aware that not everyone is in favor of 
using the DocBook XSL stylesheets with Cocoon. However, I have also found that 
some people have done so successfully, and would like to do so 
myself.
 
I have been successful in serving DocBook XML 
content with a homegrown XSL stylesheet and CSS, but when I attempted to use the 
DocBook XSL to produce html, I get a blank page. (The transform runs fine from 
the command line.)
 
Looking at cocoon/WEB-INF/logs/error.log I see a 
fatal exception in "docbook/html/common/common.xsl; Line 1576; Column 35", 
"javax.xml.transform.TransformerException: 13 >= 1" and farther down in the 
log, I see "java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 13 >= 
1"
 
Going to "docbook/html/common/common.xsl; Line 
1576; Column 35", I see the following:
 

 
OK, so xalan doesn't like this line, I 
guess?
 
Here's my setup:
 
Cocoon 2.0.3
 
Using these classes in 
/usr/tomcat/webapps/cocoon/WEB-INF/lib:
 
xalan-2.3.1.jar
 
xalan2.jar (docbook extensions from 
Norm)
 
xercesImpl-2.0.0.jar
 
xml-apis.jar
 
Using jre 1.3.1_06
 
DocBook XML DTD 4.2
 
DocBook XSL 1.5
 
I would like to keep using xalan, but if I have to 
add saxon, please point me to a good procedure for doing so. Ditto for any other 
suggestions.
 
When I get the setup working, I will post the info 
to the list.
 
Thanks.
 
Joe

Re: Newbie Sitemap Help

[Upayavira]

> 
> ^M
> 
>   ^M
> 
> ^M
> 
What is happening is that Cocoon converts your sitemap into java and
compiles it. The error you got says that there is a problem compiling the
java version of your sitemap.

Not sure if it is as simple as this, but try removing the ^M at the end
of the lines above.

That could get the sitemap to compile.

Regards, Upayavira

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Newbie Sitemap Help

[amsmith]

Hello All,

I am really new to working with Cocoon platform, and was trying to 
read and understand all that I could before posting for help.  have 
been having trouble setting up a sitemap for a test application that 
I am currently developing. 

First off, I am just trying to get a working prototype. I hoping to 
accomplish a way for a user to request a foo.html document have the 
HTML Generator with a jtidy.properties file convert it to xml/xhtml 
and the use a xsl sheet to convert the it to wml and serailze it with 
wap/wml.

At this point I am really stuck on why I keep getting a fatal 
language error.  I am not sure if it is a sitemap error or something 
in the pipeline causing the error. 

I tried placing the documents into a separate folder under 
$COCOON_HOME/mount/foo/

I wrote a sub-sitemap in the foo directory.  Each time I try 
requesting the foo.html I get a couple fatal language errors.  I am 
rather lost at this point and if anybody has an idea for me to try 
please let me know. Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Andrew Smith

I have included a short message error and my sub-sitemap.

Message: Langeuage Exception

Description:

org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Language Exception: 
org.apache.cocoon.components.language.LanguageException: Error 
compiling sitemap_xmap: Line 213, column 54: '}' expected Line 63, 
column 11: class org.apache.cocoon.www.mount.html.sitemap_xmap should 
be declared abstract; it does not define method process
(org.apache.cocoon.environment.Environment, 
org.apache.cocoon.components.pipeline.StreamPipeline, 
org.apache.cocoon.components.pipeline.EventPipeline) in class 
org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.AbstractSitemap Line 0, column 0: 2 errors" 

Current Setup
Linux Redhat 8.0
Tomcat 4.1.18/Cocoon 2.0.4
JDK 1.4.1_01 


http://apache.org/cocoon/sitemap/1.0";>^



 
   jtidy.properties  


 
   false
 

 
-//WAPFORUM//DTD WML 1.1//EN
http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/wml_1.1.xml
ACII
yes
   

   








  


^M

  ^M

^M


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AW: Newbie

[Marco Rolappe]

hi richard (again ;-),

you may have a stylesheet for it, but from the sitemap.xmap attached I don't
see it applied to your xml.

another thing; you're not getting any images displayed, are you? just asking
because I see your matches on *.gif and *.jpg not being defined within
pipelines. the paths in the @src attributes of the readers are most probably
wrong (I think the one starting with 'cocoon/' is definitely wrong.

let's sort things out a bit; I assume when installing you put the cocoon war
in tomcat's webapps directory ($TOMCAT_HOME/webapps). afterwards tomcat
unpacked this war and you then had (and now have) cocoon in
$TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/cocoon. let's call the latter $COCOON_HOME. in this
directory you have a sitemap.xmap file which represents the _root sitemap_.
I infer you created a subdirectory 'soundpool' within $COCOON_HOME and
inserted a mount for this in your _root sitemap_. something like the
following:





what you need to understand here is _contexts_. each sitemap represents a
different context. and all relative paths within sitemaps are evaluated
against the context.

examples (assuming a normal cocoon installation, i.e. reachable via
http://localhost:8080/cocoon/):

1. localhost:8080/cocoon/foo.xml
the 'cocoon' part maps to cocoon's servlet, thus cocoon gets a request for
'foo.xml'. since all the request processing starts from the root sitemap,
it would have to be handled here.

2. localhost:8080/cocoon/soundpool/foo.xml
assuming the mount of your 'soundpool' sitemap mentioned above. this time
cocoon gets a request for   'soundpool/foo.xml'. since you have a matcher in
your sitemap for anything starting with 'soundpool'
() this request is handed to your
'soundpool' sitemap/context (via the ).
note here that before being processed by your sub-sitemap/context the
prefix 'soundpool' is removed from the request  uri (because of the
@uri-prefix="soundpool"); 'soundpool/foo.xml' becomes 'foo.xml' and is now
handed to your sub- sitemap for processing.

3. localhost:8080/cocoon/soundpool/foo/bar/baz.xml
same assumptions as in 2. 'foo/bar/baz.xml' is handed to your sub-sitemap.


another important point for you to know here is the context's directory
(which is the directory the sitemap.xmap for your sub-sitemap/context
lives). when you have relative references in your sitemap (e.g. ) these are resolved against the
subsitemap's/context's directory.

so, taking your attached sitemap (which I assume lives in
$COCOON_HOME/soundpool):

>
>
>
>
>
>
>

1. localhost:8080/cocoon/soundpool/foo.gif
same assumptions as in examples above. 'foo.gif' is handed to your
sub-sitemap/context. your first matcher matches.then the reader tries to
read from 'cocoon/soundpool/images/foo.gif' (the {1} was replaced with the
text the '*'matched). this finally resolves (against your context's dir)
to $COCOON_HOME/soundpool/cocoon/soundpool/images/foo.gif.
so this file would have to exist for things to work. but I assume that you
have an 'images' directory in your soundpool
folder. thus, your relative references to the image files must be relative
to your context's dir. for the .jpgs this is
right already. but as mentioned at the beginning, the sitemap snippet above
must go into a  element.


one last point regarding the matching; the single '*' only matches 'flat'
file names, e.g. foo.gif, bar.gif, but not paths like foo/bar.gif or
foo/bar/baz.gif. though I just tell you before you run into problems.

> -Ursprungliche Nachricht-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Auftrag von Richard Cunliffe
> Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Marz 2003 09:42
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: RE: Newbie
>
>
>
> Dave and Joerg,
>
> I am also having problems with going onto the 3rd web page. When the
> link is clicked only the XML displays, despite there being a style sheet
> for it. I have a attached my sitemap so you can check my pipelines.
>
> Theis the third page
> deep.
>
> Richard.


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RE: Newbie

[Richard Cunliffe]

Dave and Joerg,

I am also having problems with going onto the 3rd web page. When the
link is clicked only the XML displays, despite there being a style sheet
for it. I have a attached my sitemap so you can check my pipelines.

The  is the third page
deep.

Richard.









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From: Joerg Heinicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 March 2003 23:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie

Hallo Dave,

without further information it's only "happy guessing" ;-)

How does the pipelines in the sitemap look like?

Did you test the transformation independent from Cocoon/offline?

Regards,

Joerg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Im not sure if this is the right place to ask this question?
> 
> I have set cocoon up and everything is up and running. My problem is
that
> when i click on the 2nd link from the root, the xml file doesnt pick
up
> its
> stylesheet.
> 
> eg.
> 
> www.website.com
>|- link to books
>|-link to chapters
> 
> It is this chapters link that is causing my trouble. When i click the
link
> it goes to the webpage, but only dispalys the xml (i looked at the
source
> in IE6), this means its not using a stylesheet.
> 
> Either I am forgetting to do something, or do I need to inform cocoon
of
> the depth
> of the site?
> 
> I have added the pipeline to the sitemap (obviously because its
displaying
> the xml).
> 
> Any feedback would be great.
> 
> Dave.


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RE: Newbie

[Richard Cunliffe]

Dave and Joerg,

I am also having problems with going onto the 3rd web page. When the
link is clicked only the XML displays, despite there being a style sheet
for it. I have a attached my sitemap so you can check my pipelines.

The  is the third page
deep.

Richard.

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Sent: 13 March 2003 23:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie

Hallo Dave,

without further information it's only "happy guessing" ;-)

How does the pipelines in the sitemap look like?

Did you test the transformation independent from Cocoon/offline?

Regards,

Joerg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Im not sure if this is the right place to ask this question?
> 
> I have set cocoon up and everything is up and running. My problem is
that
> when i click on the 2nd link from the root, the xml file doesnt pick
up
> its
> stylesheet.
> 
> eg.
> 
> www.website.com
>|- link to books
>|-link to chapters
> 
> It is this chapters link that is causing my trouble. When i click the
link
> it goes to the webpage, but only dispalys the xml (i looked at the
source
> in IE6), this means its not using a stylesheet.
> 
> Either I am forgetting to do something, or do I need to inform cocoon
of
> the depth
> of the site?
> 
> I have added the pipeline to the sitemap (obviously because its
displaying
> the xml).
> 
> Any feedback would be great.
> 
> Dave.


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Re: Newbie

[Joerg Heinicke]

Hallo Dave,

without further information it's only "happy guessing" ;-)

How does the pipelines in the sitemap look like?

Did you test the transformation independent from Cocoon/offline?

Regards,

Joerg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,

Im not sure if this is the right place to ask this question?

I have set cocoon up and everything is up and running. My problem is that
when i click on the 2nd link from the root, the xml file doesnt pick up
its
stylesheet.
eg.

www.website.com
   |- link to books
   |-link to chapters
It is this chapters link that is causing my trouble. When i click the link
it goes to the webpage, but only dispalys the xml (i looked at the source
in IE6), this means its not using a stylesheet.
Either I am forgetting to do something, or do I need to inform cocoon of
the depth
of the site?
I have added the pipeline to the sitemap (obviously because its displaying
the xml).
Any feedback would be great.

Dave.


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Newbie

[davewedd]

Hi,

Im not sure if this is the right place to ask this question?

I have set cocoon up and everything is up and running. My problem is that
when i click on the 2nd link from the root, the xml file doesnt pick up
its
stylesheet.

eg.

www.website.com
   |- link to books
   |-link to chapters

It is this chapters link that is causing my trouble. When i click the link
it goes to the webpage, but only dispalys the xml (i looked at the source
in IE6), this means its not using a stylesheet.

Either I am forgetting to do something, or do I need to inform cocoon of
the depth
of the site?

I have added the pipeline to the sitemap (obviously because its displaying
the xml).

Any feedback would be great.

Dave.


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Newbie

[davewedd]

Hi,

Im not sure if this is the right place to ask this question?

I have set cocoon up and everything is up and running. My problem is that
when i click on the 2 link from the root, the xml file doesnt pick up its
stylesheet.

eg.

www.website.com
   |- link to books
   |-link to chapters

It is this chapters link that is causing my trouble. When i click the link
it goes to the webpage, but only dispalys the xml (i looked at the source
in IE6), this means its not using a stylesheet.

Either what am i forgetting to do, or do need to inform cocoon of the depth
of the site?

I have add the pipeline to the sitemap (obviously because its displaying
the xml).

Any feedback would be great.

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Re: Newbie Use of Request Params with DB Action

[Samuel Bruce]

Thanks. Solved with your help.

Take care, be well, God bless.

--- Christian Haul
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 04.Mar.2003 -- 06:26 AM, Samuel Bruce wrote:
> > I don't know what I did the first time, but
> whatever I
> > did wrong I must not have had enough patience to
> look
> > at it closer.
> > The request parameters ARE displayed with the
> request
> > generator after the db action. Thank you again for
> > your help!
> 
> Good to hear your problem is solved!
> Take care.
> 
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Re: Newbie Use of Request Params with DB Action

[Christian Haul]

On 04.Mar.2003 -- 06:26 AM, Samuel Bruce wrote:
> I don't know what I did the first time, but whatever I
> did wrong I must not have had enough patience to look
> at it closer.
> The request parameters ARE displayed with the request
> generator after the db action. Thank you again for
> your help!

Good to hear your problem is solved!
Take care.

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Re: Newbie Use of Request Params with DB Action

[Samuel Bruce]

I don't know what I did the first time, but whatever I
did wrong I must not have had enough patience to look
at it closer.
The request parameters ARE displayed with the request
generator after the db action. Thank you again for
your help!

--- Samuel Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you once again.
> 
> Before I created this post to cocoon-users, I tried
> using the request generator after the mod-db action
> and all of the request parameters were gone (weren't
> displayed with xml serializer). Before the mod-db
> action they were all there (using the request
> generator). That's why I created this thread.
> Maybe I did something wrong. I'll try again - work
> on
> it some more. If I'm successful, I'll let you know.
> If
> not, I'll send my pipeline and xsl. 
> 
> Thanks so much for your assistance and patience with
> a
> newbie!
> 
> --- Christian Haul
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 03.Mar.2003 -- 06:43 PM, Samuel Bruce wrote:
> > > Thanks for responding and sorry for the
> ambiguity
> > of
> > > my post. Your reply was helpful.
> > > 
> > > The parameters that I am referring to are
> request
> > > parameters sent from a post in an HTML form to a
> > > pipeline in my sitemap. That pipeline has a
> mod-db
> > > action. 
> > > I'd like to capture one of the input parameters
> > from
> > > the form to be available as a parameter in an
> XSLT
> > 
> > > transformer after that input parameter has been
> > used
> > > by the mod-db action.
> > > Is it possible? My interpretation of your
> response
> > > along with the behavior that I see is that the
> > request
> > > parameter is consumed by the mod-db action.
> > 
> > This is absolutely possible! Request parameter are
> > read-only and are
> > not removed after reading them. BTW none of the
> > input modules removes
> > a value. Conceptually, they are only for reading
> > values, not modifying
> > state. Although this is not enforced, all current
> > ones obey this
> > principle.
> > 
> > You can verify that the parameter is still there
> for
> > example by using
> > the request generator in the same pipeline as you
> > have the action.
> > 
> > If you can't make it work, include the pipeline
> and
> > your xsl file
> > (head and template that uses the parameter).
> > 
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Re: Newbie Use of Request Params with DB Action

[Samuel Bruce]

Thank you once again.

Before I created this post to cocoon-users, I tried
using the request generator after the mod-db action
and all of the request parameters were gone (weren't
displayed with xml serializer). Before the mod-db
action they were all there (using the request
generator). That's why I created this thread.
Maybe I did something wrong. I'll try again - work on
it some more. If I'm successful, I'll let you know. If
not, I'll send my pipeline and xsl. 

Thanks so much for your assistance and patience with a
newbie!

--- Christian Haul
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 03.Mar.2003 -- 06:43 PM, Samuel Bruce wrote:
> > Thanks for responding and sorry for the ambiguity
> of
> > my post. Your reply was helpful.
> > 
> > The parameters that I am referring to are request
> > parameters sent from a post in an HTML form to a
> > pipeline in my sitemap. That pipeline has a mod-db
> > action. 
> > I'd like to capture one of the input parameters
> from
> > the form to be available as a parameter in an XSLT
> 
> > transformer after that input parameter has been
> used
> > by the mod-db action.
> > Is it possible? My interpretation of your response
> > along with the behavior that I see is that the
> request
> > parameter is consumed by the mod-db action.
> 
> This is absolutely possible! Request parameter are
> read-only and are
> not removed after reading them. BTW none of the
> input modules removes
> a value. Conceptually, they are only for reading
> values, not modifying
> state. Although this is not enforced, all current
> ones obey this
> principle.
> 
> You can verify that the parameter is still there for
> example by using
> the request generator in the same pipeline as you
> have the action.
> 
> If you can't make it work, include the pipeline and
> your xsl file
> (head and template that uses the parameter).
> 
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Re: Newbie Use of Request Params with DB Action

[Christian Haul]

On 03.Mar.2003 -- 06:43 PM, Samuel Bruce wrote:
> Thanks for responding and sorry for the ambiguity of
> my post. Your reply was helpful.
> 
> The parameters that I am referring to are request
> parameters sent from a post in an HTML form to a
> pipeline in my sitemap. That pipeline has a mod-db
> action. 
> I'd like to capture one of the input parameters from
> the form to be available as a parameter in an XSLT 
> transformer after that input parameter has been used
> by the mod-db action.
> Is it possible? My interpretation of your response
> along with the behavior that I see is that the request
> parameter is consumed by the mod-db action.

This is absolutely possible! Request parameter are read-only and are
not removed after reading them. BTW none of the input modules removes
a value. Conceptually, they are only for reading values, not modifying
state. Although this is not enforced, all current ones obey this
principle.

You can verify that the parameter is still there for example by using
the request generator in the same pipeline as you have the action.

If you can't make it work, include the pipeline and your xsl file
(head and template that uses the parameter).

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Re: Newbie Use of Request Params with DB Action

[Samuel Bruce]

Thanks for responding and sorry for the ambiguity of
my post. Your reply was helpful.

The parameters that I am referring to are request
parameters sent from a post in an HTML form to a
pipeline in my sitemap. That pipeline has a mod-db
action. 
I'd like to capture one of the input parameters from
the form to be available as a parameter in an XSLT 
transformer after that input parameter has been used
by the mod-db action.
Is it possible? My interpretation of your response
along with the behavior that I see is that the request
parameter is consumed by the mod-db action.

--- Christian Haul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Samuel Bruce wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm using a version of cocoon that I built from
> CVS
> > back in October of 2002, running with tomcat
> 4.1.12 on
> > WIN XP.
> > 
> > I have a pipeline that generates an HTML form and
> > passes  parameters to a mod-db action which
> inserts DB
> > records successfully.
> > 
> > Can any of those parameters passed to the action
> be
> > passed to another pipeline after the mod-db action
> or
> > are those parameters gone?
> 
> Mmmh, if by parameters you mean sitemap parameters,
> e.g.
> , they are per component.
> 
> Request parameters OTOH are per request. Redirects
> cause
> new requests.
> 
> Everything else. please be more specific.
> 
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Re: DirectoryGenerator depth attrib (newbie)

[Joerg Heinicke]

hi Mark,

Mark Anquoe wrote:
ok I've started pulling my hair out. I am really having problems getting 
the DirectoryGenerator to display anything more than the contents of the 
current directory. I can't seem to get the depth attribute to do anything.
we never had any problem with it.

I modified my just installed sitemap directory matching to look like this:

  

   
 
   

now shouldn't I be seeing 3 levels deep into the directory tree?
does directory2html.xsl not allow for more than one level?
how can I see the sax events being served to the xsl page to know where 
the problem is?
Simply remove the transformer and change the type of the serializer to xml.

Joerg

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Re: Newbie Use of Request Params with DB Action

[Christian Haul]

Samuel Bruce wrote:
Hello,

I'm using a version of cocoon that I built from CVS
back in October of 2002, running with tomcat 4.1.12 on
WIN XP.
I have a pipeline that generates an HTML form and
passes  parameters to a mod-db action which inserts DB
records successfully.
Can any of those parameters passed to the action be
passed to another pipeline after the mod-db action or
are those parameters gone?
Mmmh, if by parameters you mean sitemap parameters, e.g.
, they are per component.
Request parameters OTOH are per request. Redirects cause
new requests.
Everything else. please be more specific.

	Chris.

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Newbie Use of Request Params with DB Action

[Samuel Bruce]

Hello,

I'm using a version of cocoon that I built from CVS
back in October of 2002, running with tomcat 4.1.12 on
WIN XP.

I have a pipeline that generates an HTML form and
passes  parameters to a mod-db action which inserts DB
records successfully.

Can any of those parameters passed to the action be
passed to another pipeline after the mod-db action or
are those parameters gone?

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AW: Newbie: where is the error?

[Marco Rolappe]

hi 
nesto,
 
that 
IllegalStateException is a current cocoon bug (should by now be resolved in 
cocoon-2.0.5-dev and 2.1). cocoon is trying to notify an error, i.e. the one you 
are searching for. please have a look at your logs to see what the actual error 
is. if the cocoon logs don't reveal anything try the tomcat logs 
also.

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  where is the error?
  Hi!
   
  I use some JSP for the xml-data 
  generation.
  These JSPs import some java classes for query a 
  database, and so on...
  These classes are used ONLY in the 
  JSPs.
   
  Where I have to put these java classes on the 
  cocoon context??
  In the folder cocoon/WEB-INF?
  Or somewhere inside the cocoon/myApp 
  folder??
  Do I have to configure the file cocoon.xconf for 
  using of my custom classes?
   
  Sorry for my newbie question, 
  but I can't find where the error is!
  In the sub-sitemap I 
  wrote:
  
   
     
     
      -->
     
    
  >
   
   
  But, when I request http://myHost:8080/cocoon/myApp/userdata.jsp 
  (of course with the parameters passed through an xhtml form) I can only obtain 
  this:
   
  HTTP Status 500 - 
  
  type Exception report
  message 
  description The server encountered an internal 
  error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request.
  
  exception java.lang.IllegalStateException
	at org.apache.coyote.tomcat4.CoyoteResponseFacade.reset(CoyoteResponseFacade.java:251)
	at org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet.service(CocoonServlet.java:1115)
	at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
	at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:247)
	at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:193)
	at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:260)... Thank you for the help!Nesto

Newbie: where is the error?

[Nesto]

Hi!
 
I use some JSP for the xml-data 
generation.
These JSPs import some java classes for query a 
database, and so on...
These classes are used ONLY in the 
JSPs.
 
Where I have to put these java classes on the 
cocoon context??
In the folder cocoon/WEB-INF?
Or somewhere inside the cocoon/myApp 
folder??
Do I have to configure the file cocoon.xconf for 
using of my custom classes?
 
Sorry for my newbie question, but I 
can't find where the error is!
In the sub-sitemap I 
wrote:

 
   
   
    -->
   
  
>
 
 
But, 
when I request http://myHost:8080/cocoon/myApp/userdata.jsp 
(of course with the parameters passed through an xhtml form) I can only obtain 
this:
 
HTTP Status 500 - 

type Exception report
message 
description The server encountered an internal error 
() that prevented it from fulfilling this request.

exception java.lang.IllegalStateException
	at org.apache.coyote.tomcat4.CoyoteResponseFacade.reset(CoyoteResponseFacade.java:251)
	at org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet.service(CocoonServlet.java:1115)
	at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
	at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:247)
	at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:193)
	at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:260)... Thank you for the help!Nesto

DirectoryGenerator depth attrib (newbie)

[Mark Anquoe]

ok I've started pulling my hair out. I am really having problems getting 
the DirectoryGenerator to display anything more than the contents of the 
current directory. I can't seem to get the depth attribute to do anything.

I modified my just installed sitemap directory matching to look like this:

  


   
  
   
 
  

now shouldn't I be seeing 3 levels deep into the directory tree?
does directory2html.xsl not allow for more than one level?
how can I see the sax events being served to the xsl page to know where 
the problem is?

thanks everyone
mark


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Re: Newbie

[SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous]

You may look at the following place to get the portal running.

http://www.saxess.com/JSPWiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Install

in fact this page doesnt tell explicitly how the portal is comnpiled, this
jaust happens under the hood. so just follow the cookbook and
your done (im speeking for cocoon-2.0.4 only, no idea about the HEAD version)

hussayn

Sean McKaharay wrote:

> I just started looking at Cocoon and I find the portal piece really nice. I
> tried building the src with the correct option but I don't know how to build
> and deploy the portal piece. When you run the option and then build it comes
> up with 2 jar files. Are they independent files or do they get dropped in the
> web-apps directory and explode by themselves?
>
> Any help would be great
>
> Sean

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Newbie

[Sean McKaharay]

I just started looking at Cocoon and I find the portal piece really nice. I
tried building the src with the correct option but I don't know how to build
and deploy the portal piece. When you run the option and then build it comes
up with 2 jar files. Are they independent files or do they get dropped in the
web-apps directory and explode by themselves?
 
Any help would be great
 
Sean

Re: newbie xsp question

[Jim Bearce]

I don't know why the simple.xsp was done the way it was but I believe 
you should also be able to write it this way:


 for (int i=0; i < 3; i++) {
   Item i
 }


I think wrapping it in CDATA sections is just to make it possible to use 
the < in the for statement

I-Lin Kuo wrote:

In the sample xsp provided with cocoon, on the page

docs/samples/xsp/simple.xsp

There's a section of code that looks like this:


  

  Item i

  


I understand that the CDATA sections are needed to escape the "<" in 
the for loop declaration, but it seems to me that only one such is 
needed. To test this, I made up another page with the following:



{
Item j
}



This worked, and confirmed my suspicions. So my question is, why were 
there so many CDATA sections in the original, and when am I supposed 
to use them?

Also, I'd appreciate it if someone could explain what xsp:content is 
supposed to do, or refer me to some place in the documentation where 
all the tags are listed (I couldn't find any).

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[I-Lin Kuo]

In the sample xsp provided with cocoon, on the page

docs/samples/xsp/simple.xsp

There's a section of code that looks like this:


  

  Item i

  


I understand that the CDATA sections are needed to escape the "<" in the for 
loop declaration, but it seems to me that only one such is needed. To test 
this, I made up another page with the following:



{
		Item j
	}



This worked, and confirmed my suspicions. So my question is, why were there 
so many CDATA sections in the original, and when am I supposed to use them?

Also, I'd appreciate it if someone could explain what xsp:content is 
supposed to do, or refer me to some place in the documentation where all the 
tags are listed (I couldn't find any).

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Re: newbie question

[Tellis George]

Hi Derek, Hussayn,

Thanks for the replies. Now that I know it is very much in the realms of 
possibility, I will
read up a bit more on cocoon and understand how it works.  Once I read up a 
bit more I should
be able to ask more specific questions  

Thanks a lot for all your support 

Regards
Tellis



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Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:55:07 +0200

Tellis

Also have a look at:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=IntegrateAServlet

As you can see, it assumes some knowledge of Cocoon
wrt to  and other jargon - but you may be able
to get the essence of it

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 01:25:39 >>>
Thanks for the excellent information. One of my main concern was how to

integrate cocoon with existing services and servlets without
necessarily
making them part of cocoon ...

>From: "Derek Hohls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: newbie question
>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:36:06 +0200
>
>Tellis
>
>You ask "is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for
>highly interactive dynamic pages?"
>
>Very short version answer is:
>Yes, Cocoon can be used for both.
>
>Slightly longer:
>Cocoon essentially *is* a servlet, designed to enable the creation of
>XML (from static files, databases, web services or other sources) and
>provide an efficient and effective framework for manipluating that
XML
>into a variety of output formats (including all the ones you list).
>Cocoon
>works whether you have a single file or a whole multitude with any
>combination of static or dynamic.
>
>Even longer (from the Cocoon Home Page at:
>http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/)
>Designed for performance and scalability around pipelined SAX
>processing,
>  Cocoon offers a flexible environment based on a separation of
concerns
>
>between content, logic, and style. Cocoon's centralized configuration
>system
>helps you to create, deploy, and maintain rock-solid XML server
>applications.
>Cocoon interacts with most data sources, including filesystems,
RDBMS,
>
>LDAP, native XML databases, and network-based data sources.
>It adapts content delivery to the capabilities of different devices
>like
>HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, and RTF, to name just a few.
>You can run Cocoon as a Servlet as well as through a powerful,
>commandline interface.
>The deliberate design of its abstract environment gives you the
freedom
>
>to extend its functionality to meet your special needs in a highly
>modular fashion.
>
>
>By now this should have answered your question (but you probably have
>others!) -
>look through the Overview ( http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/overview.html

>) and
>browse from there - also look at the
>http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Main
>Wiki site; mostly maintained by folk who also asking questions and
>trying to explain
>what they find to others...
>
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 12:16:04 >>>
>Hi,
>
>I am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks
for
>my
>company.
>Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am not entiely sure because
the
>
>pages in my
>web application are not static. All of them are dynamically generated
>on the
>fly. The backend services
>although still under design may be developed using JINI, object
>databases,
>LDAP etc
>
>The main reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its multichanel
>capabilities.
>We may want to target
>the pages to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc My
>original
>(very simplistic) design was
>to simply have servlets generate XML and then transform these using
>XSLT.
>This is where I thought cocoon would help.
>
>My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used
for
>
>highly interactive dynamic pages?
>
>
>Regards
>Tellis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: newbie question

[Derek Hohls]

Tellis
 
Also have a look at:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=IntegrateAServlet
 
As you can see, it assumes some knowledge of Cocoon
wrt to  and other jargon - but you may be able
to get the essence of it>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
27/01/2003 01:25:39 >>>Thanks for the excellent information. One of 
my main concern was how to integrate cocoon with existing services and 
servlets without necessarily making them part of cocoon ...>From: 
"Derek Hohls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Subject: Re: newbie 
question>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:36:06 
+0200>>Tellis>>You ask "is cocoon good for static 
pages or can it be used for>highly interactive dynamic 
pages?">>Very short version answer is:>Yes, Cocoon can be 
used for both.>>Slightly longer:>Cocoon essentially *is* a 
servlet, designed to enable the creation of>XML (from static files, 
databases, web services or other sources) and>provide an efficient and 
effective framework for manipluating that XML>into a variety of output 
formats (including all the ones you list).>Cocoon>works whether 
you have a single file or a whole multitude with any>combination of 
static or dynamic.>>Even longer (from the Cocoon Home Page 
at:>http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/)>Designed 
for performance and scalability around pipelined 
SAX>processing,>  Cocoon offers a flexible environment based 
on a separation of concerns>>between content, logic, and style. 
Cocoon's centralized configuration>system>helps you to create, 
deploy, and maintain rock-solid XML server>applications.>Cocoon 
interacts with most data sources, including filesystems, 
RDBMS,>>LDAP, native XML databases, and network-based data 
sources.>It adapts content delivery to the capabilities of different 
devices>like>HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, and RTF, to name just a 
few.>You can run Cocoon as a Servlet as well as through a 
powerful,>commandline interface.>The deliberate design of its 
abstract environment gives you the freedom>>to extend its 
functionality to meet your special needs in a highly>modular 
fashion.>>>By now this should have answered your question 
(but you probably have>others!) ->look through the Overview ( http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/overview.html>) 
and>browse from there - also look at the>http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Main>Wiki 
site; mostly maintained by folk who also asking questions and>trying to 
explain>what they find to others...>>> >>> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 12:16:04 >>>>Hi,>>I 
am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks 
for>my>company.>Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am 
not entiely sure because the>>pages in my>web application 
are not static. All of them are dynamically generated>on the>fly. 
The backend services>although still under design may be developed using 
JINI, object>databases,>LDAP etc>>The main 
reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its 
multichanel>capabilities.>We may want to target>the pages 
to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc 
My>original>(very simplistic) design was>to simply have 
servlets generate XML and then transform these using>XSLT.>This is 
where I thought cocoon would help.>>My question is - is cocoon 
good for static pages or can it be used for>>highly interactive 
dynamic 
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Re: newbie question

[Derek Hohls]

Tellis
 
OK; this is getting into deeper waters  again, it is 
certainly possible (and is often discussed on this mailing
list) but some of the explanations of 'how" are probably
best left until you understand a little of why/how Cocoon
operates.  A lot will also depend on which services and
servlets you are working with and how *they* are configured
and what their capabilities/limitations are.
 
Derek>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 01:25:39 
>>>Thanks for the excellent information. One of my main concern was 
how to integrate cocoon with existing services and servlets without 
necessarily making them part of cocoon ...>From: "Derek Hohls" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Subject: Re: newbie 
question>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:36:06 
+0200>>Tellis>>You ask "is cocoon good for static 
pages or can it be used for>highly interactive dynamic 
pages?">>Very short version answer is:>Yes, Cocoon can be 
used for both.>>Slightly longer:>Cocoon essentially *is* a 
servlet, designed to enable the creation of>XML (from static files, 
databases, web services or other sources) and>provide an efficient and 
effective framework for manipluating that XML>into a variety of output 
formats (including all the ones you list).>Cocoon>works whether 
you have a single file or a whole multitude with any>combination of 
static or dynamic.>>Even longer (from the Cocoon Home Page 
at:>http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/)>Designed 
for performance and scalability around pipelined 
SAX>processing,>  Cocoon offers a flexible environment based 
on a separation of concerns>>between content, logic, and style. 
Cocoon's centralized configuration>system>helps you to create, 
deploy, and maintain rock-solid XML server>applications.>Cocoon 
interacts with most data sources, including filesystems, 
RDBMS,>>LDAP, native XML databases, and network-based data 
sources.>It adapts content delivery to the capabilities of different 
devices>like>HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, and RTF, to name just a 
few.>You can run Cocoon as a Servlet as well as through a 
powerful,>commandline interface.>The deliberate design of its 
abstract environment gives you the freedom>>to extend its 
functionality to meet your special needs in a highly>modular 
fashion.>>>By now this should have answered your question 
(but you probably have>others!) ->look through the Overview ( http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/overview.html>) 
and>browse from there - also look at the>http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Main>Wiki 
site; mostly maintained by folk who also asking questions and>trying to 
explain>what they find to others...>>> >>> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 12:16:04 >>>>Hi,>>I 
am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks 
for>my>company.>Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am 
not entiely sure because the>>pages in my>web application 
are not static. All of them are dynamically generated>on the>fly. 
The backend services>although still under design may be developed using 
JINI, object>databases,>LDAP etc>>The main 
reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its 
multichanel>capabilities.>We may want to target>the pages 
to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc 
My>original>(very simplistic) design was>to simply have 
servlets generate XML and then transform these using>XSLT.>This is 
where I thought cocoon would help.>>My question is - is cocoon 
good for static pages or can it be used for>>highly interactive 
dynamic 
pages?>>>Regards>Tellis>>>>>>>>>>_>Stay 
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Re: newbie question

[SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous]

hy, Tellis

im just working on a project, where:

1.) an existing webapp can't be merged with the cocoon-webapp
due to incompatible jar versions

2.) the existing webapp may not be modified, except the creation
of an additional XML-layer for read/write access.

I am working on howto get a cocoon-based presentation layer in the 
middle between the legacyapp and the browser frontend. Things start
working and i make quick progress at the moment. If you are
interested, i can tell more about this...

regards, hussayn

Tellis George wrote:
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integrate cocoon with existing services and servlets without necessarily 
making them part of cocoon ...



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Re: newbie question

[Tellis George]

Thanks for the excellent information. One of my main concern was how to 
integrate cocoon with existing services and servlets without necessarily 
making them part of cocoon ...

From: "Derek Hohls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:36:06 +0200

Tellis

You ask "is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for
highly interactive dynamic pages?"

Very short version answer is:
Yes, Cocoon can be used for both.

Slightly longer:
Cocoon essentially *is* a servlet, designed to enable the creation of
XML (from static files, databases, web services or other sources) and
provide an efficient and effective framework for manipluating that XML
into a variety of output formats (including all the ones you list).
Cocoon
works whether you have a single file or a whole multitude with any
combination of static or dynamic.

Even longer (from the Cocoon Home Page at:
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/)
Designed for performance and scalability around pipelined SAX
processing,
 Cocoon offers a flexible environment based on a separation of concerns

between content, logic, and style. Cocoon's centralized configuration
system
helps you to create, deploy, and maintain rock-solid XML server
applications.
Cocoon interacts with most data sources, including filesystems, RDBMS,

LDAP, native XML databases, and network-based data sources.
It adapts content delivery to the capabilities of different devices
like
HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, and RTF, to name just a few.
You can run Cocoon as a Servlet as well as through a powerful,
commandline interface.
The deliberate design of its abstract environment gives you the freedom

to extend its functionality to meet your special needs in a highly
modular fashion.


By now this should have answered your question (but you probably have
others!) -
look through the Overview ( http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/overview.html
) and
browse from there - also look at the
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Main
Wiki site; mostly maintained by folk who also asking questions and
trying to explain
what they find to others...


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 12:16:04 >>>
Hi,

I am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks for
my
company.
Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am not entiely sure because the

pages in my
web application are not static. All of them are dynamically generated
on the
fly. The backend services
although still under design may be developed using JINI, object
databases,
LDAP etc

The main reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its multichanel
capabilities.
We may want to target
the pages to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc My
original
(very simplistic) design was
to simply have servlets generate XML and then transform these using
XSLT.
This is where I thought cocoon would help.

My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for

highly interactive dynamic pages?


Regards
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Re: newbie question

[Niclas Hedhman]

On Monday 27 January 2003 18:16, Tellis George wrote:
> My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for
> highly interactive dynamic pages?

Consensus here is; WEYWY
What Ever You Want You Get

or so it seems...

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Re: newbie question

[SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous]

from my experience i can say, cocoon can be used for
highly dynamic pages.
You have to individually check on performance issues,
but in general until today i have been quite satisfied with
what i can gain from using it.
I must admit, that i currently "only" use the basics. never tried
the esql thing, and more sophisticated onse, but so far im
very shure, it can be used especially in a multi channel
environment.

hussayn


Tellis George wrote:

Hi,

I am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks for 
my company.
Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am not entiely sure because the 
pages in my
web application are not static. All of them are dynamically generated on 
the fly. The backend services
although still under design may be developed using JINI, object 
databases, LDAP etc

The main reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its multichanel 
capabilities. We may want to target
the pages to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc My 
original (very simplistic) design was
to simply have servlets generate XML and then transform these using 
XSLT. This is where I thought cocoon would help.

My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for 
highly interactive dynamic pages?


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Re: newbie question

[Derek Hohls]

Tellis
 
You ask "is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for 
highly interactive dynamic pages?"
 
Very short version answer is:
Yes, Cocoon can be used for both.
 
Slightly longer:
Cocoon essentially *is* a servlet, designed to enable the creation of
XML (from static files, databases, web services or other sources) and
provide an efficient and effective framework for manipluating that XML
into a variety of output formats (including all the ones you list). 
Cocoon
works whether you have a single file or a whole multitude with any 
combination of static or dynamic.
 
Even longer (from the Cocoon Home Page at:
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/)
Designed for performance and scalability around pipelined SAX
processing,
 Cocoon offers a flexible environment based on a separation of concerns

between content, logic, and style. Cocoon's centralized configuration
system
helps you to create, deploy, and maintain rock-solid XML server
applications. 
Cocoon interacts with most data sources, including filesystems, RDBMS,

LDAP, native XML databases, and network-based data sources. 
It adapts content delivery to the capabilities of different devices
like 
HTML, WML, PDF, SVG, and RTF, to name just a few. 
You can run Cocoon as a Servlet as well as through a powerful,
commandline interface. 
The deliberate design of its abstract environment gives you the freedom

to extend its functionality to meet your special needs in a highly
modular fashion. 


By now this should have answered your question (but you probably have
others!) -
look through the Overview ( http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/overview.html
) and 
browse from there - also look at the
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Main
Wiki site; mostly maintained by folk who also asking questions and
trying to explain
what they find to others...


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/01/2003 12:16:04 >>>
Hi,

I am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks for
my 
company.
Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am not entiely sure because the

pages in my
web application are not static. All of them are dynamically generated
on the 
fly. The backend services
although still under design may be developed using JINI, object
databases, 
LDAP etc

The main reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its multichanel
capabilities. 
We may want to target
the pages to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc My
original 
(very simplistic) design was
to simply have servlets generate XML and then transform these using
XSLT. 
This is where I thought cocoon would help.

My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for

highly interactive dynamic pages?


Regards
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RE: newbie question

[Luca Morandini]

Tellis,

Cocoon is aimed at generating dynamic content, first and foremost.

Anyway, you can, as the Cocoon-based Forrest does, generate static content out of XMLs 
in "batch" mode and then drop them in a
web-serves, to improve performance.

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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: newbie question
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks for my
> company.
> Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am not entiely sure because the
> pages in my
> web application are not static. All of them are dynamically generated on the
> fly. The backend services
> although still under design may be developed using JINI, object databases,
> LDAP etc
>
> The main reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its multichanel capabilities.
> We may want to target
> the pages to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc My original
> (very simplistic) design was
> to simply have servlets generate XML and then transform these using XSLT.
> This is where I thought cocoon would help.
>
> My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for
> highly interactive dynamic pages?
>
>
> Regards
> Tellis
>
>
>
>
>
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newbie question

[Tellis George]

Hi,

I am quite new to cocoon. I am evaulating web publishing frameworks for my 
company.
Although Cocoon sounds very promising I am not entiely sure because the 
pages in my
web application are not static. All of them are dynamically generated on the 
fly. The backend services
although still under design may be developed using JINI, object databases, 
LDAP etc

The main reason why I was drawn to cocoon was its multichanel capabilities. 
We may want to target
the pages to a number of devices - mobiles, PDAs, PCs etc My original 
(very simplistic) design was
to simply have servlets generate XML and then transform these using XSLT. 
This is where I thought cocoon would help.

My question is - is cocoon good for static pages or can it be used for 
highly interactive dynamic pages?


Regards
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Re: AW: newbie: creating a cocoon action and Sleep Deprivation

[Julian Klein]

Hi,

  Thanks for the help yesterday, but after getting
some sleep I found my problem.  It is at its basic
level attributed to my stupidity, but it was that I
had the class in the wrong package when I placed it
into the cocoon jar.  Thanks for the help guys, sorry
for wasting your time.

all apologies,
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Re: AW: newbie: creating a cocoon action using AbstractMultiAction

[Julian Klein]

Thanks, but the class is in the cocoon-2.1-dev.jar
under $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/cocoon/WEB-INF/lib.  I
tried moving it into $TOMCAT_HOME/common/lib, but
after that Cocoon would not even start...so based on
that result I did not put it on the machine's
CLASSPATH and just let TOMCAT load the classes from
the jar.

Thanks,
Julian

--- Marco Rolappe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the stacktrace says that the AbstractMultiAction
> can't be found.
> 
> make sure that this class is in the classpath (it
> should be in the cocoon
> JAR, but you better check that out).
> 
> -Ursprungliche Nachricht-
> Von:
>
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>
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> Auftrag von Julian Klein
> Gesendet: Montag, 20. Januar 2003 22:27
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: newbie: creating a cocoon action using
> AbstractMultiAction
> 
> 
> Hey Marcus,
>  Yeah I'm sorry, but I had fixed that (I jsut sent
> the
> old sitemap DUH).  You see I tried it in the
> original
> package of com.ethidium, but then thought my class
> should be in the cocoon dev jar so I moved it to
> org.apache.cocoon.acting and changed the sitemap.
> Unfortunately neither worked eventhough the sitemap
> matched the location of the class.  I know it is
> accessing the class since it is looking for the
> AbstractMultiAction class (it's superclass).  I am
> running also the slide sample from the scratchpad
> which has actions that use the AbstractMultiAction
> class as well...but they works fine.  I am boggled
> about this...could it have something to do with
> Thread
> safety from the Avalon framework or some funny
> classloading issue?
> 
> Thanks Again,
> Julian
> 
> 
> --- Marcus Crafter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Julian,
> >
> > Not sure what the problem is exactly, but your
> > source file has
> > your action in the package
> > 'org.apache.cocoon.acting', whereas your
> > sitemap.xmap file says that is under
> > 'com.ethidium.cocoon.action'.
> >
> > Perhaps that's causing things to go a bit pear
> > shaped. Hope that
> > helps.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:06:09PM -0800, Julian
> > Klein wrote:
> > >
> > > *ACTION JAVA
> > CODE**
> > > /*
> > >  * TaskAction.java
> > >  *
> > >  * Created on January 14, 2003, 12:16 PM
> > >  */
> > > package org.apache.cocoon.acting;
> >
> > ..
> >
> > >
> >
>
***SITEMAP**
> **
> >
> > ..
> >
> > >   
> > > > src="com.ethidium.cocoon.action.TaskAction"/>
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AW: newbie: creating a cocoon action using AbstractMultiAction

[Marco Rolappe]

the stacktrace says that the AbstractMultiAction can't be found.

make sure that this class is in the classpath (it should be in the cocoon
JAR, but you better check that out).

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Hey Marcus,
 Yeah I'm sorry, but I had fixed that (I jsut sent the
old sitemap DUH).  You see I tried it in the original
package of com.ethidium, but then thought my class
should be in the cocoon dev jar so I moved it to
org.apache.cocoon.acting and changed the sitemap.
Unfortunately neither worked eventhough the sitemap
matched the location of the class.  I know it is
accessing the class since it is looking for the
AbstractMultiAction class (it's superclass).  I am
running also the slide sample from the scratchpad
which has actions that use the AbstractMultiAction
class as well...but they works fine.  I am boggled
about this...could it have something to do with Thread
safety from the Avalon framework or some funny
classloading issue?

Thanks Again,
Julian


--- Marcus Crafter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Julian,
>
>   Not sure what the problem is exactly, but your
> source file has
>   your action in the package
> 'org.apache.cocoon.acting', whereas your
>   sitemap.xmap file says that is under
> 'com.ethidium.cocoon.action'.
>
>   Perhaps that's causing things to go a bit pear
> shaped. Hope that
>   helps.
>
>   Cheers,
>
>   Marcus
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:06:09PM -0800, Julian
> Klein wrote:
> >
> > *ACTION JAVA
> CODE**
> > /*
> >  * TaskAction.java
> >  *
> >  * Created on January 14, 2003, 12:16 PM
> >  */
> > package org.apache.cocoon.acting;
>
> ..
>
> >
>
***SITEMAP**
**
>
> ..
>
> >   
> > src="com.ethidium.cocoon.action.TaskAction"/>
>
> --
> .
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Re: newbie: creating a cocoon action using AbstractMultiAction

[Julian Klein]

Hey Marcus,
 Yeah I'm sorry, but I had fixed that (I jsut sent the
old sitemap DUH).  You see I tried it in the original
package of com.ethidium, but then thought my class
should be in the cocoon dev jar so I moved it to
org.apache.cocoon.acting and changed the sitemap.
Unfortunately neither worked eventhough the sitemap
matched the location of the class.  I know it is
accessing the class since it is looking for the
AbstractMultiAction class (it's superclass).  I am
running also the slide sample from the scratchpad
which has actions that use the AbstractMultiAction
class as well...but they works fine.  I am boggled
about this...could it have something to do with Thread
safety from the Avalon framework or some funny
classloading issue?

Thanks Again,
Julian


--- Marcus Crafter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Julian,
> 
>   Not sure what the problem is exactly, but your
> source file has
>   your action in the package
> 'org.apache.cocoon.acting', whereas your
>   sitemap.xmap file says that is under
> 'com.ethidium.cocoon.action'.
>   
>   Perhaps that's causing things to go a bit pear
> shaped. Hope that
>   helps.
>   
>   Cheers,
>   
>   Marcus
>   
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:06:09PM -0800, Julian
> Klein wrote:
> > 
> > *ACTION JAVA
> CODE**
> > /*
> >  * TaskAction.java
> >  *
> >  * Created on January 14, 2003, 12:16 PM
> >  */
> > package org.apache.cocoon.acting;
> 
> ..
> 
> >
>
***SITEMAP
> 
> ..
> 
> >   
> > src="com.ethidium.cocoon.action.TaskAction"/>
> 
> -- 
> .
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Re: newbie: creating a cocoon action using AbstractMultiAction

[Marcus Crafter]

Hi Julian,

Not sure what the problem is exactly, but your source file has
your action in the package 'org.apache.cocoon.acting', whereas your
sitemap.xmap file says that is under 'com.ethidium.cocoon.action'.

Perhaps that's causing things to go a bit pear shaped. Hope that
helps.

Cheers,

Marcus

On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:06:09PM -0800, Julian Klein wrote:
> 
> *ACTION JAVA CODE**
> /*
>  * TaskAction.java
>  *
>  * Created on January 14, 2003, 12:16 PM
>  */
> package org.apache.cocoon.acting;

..

> ***SITEMAP

..

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newbie: creating a cocoon action using AbstractMultiAction

[Julian Klein]

Hi all,

I am currently trying to create my own action for
cocoon 2.  Moreover, I am trying to use the
AbstractMultiAction class so I can call methods on the
action via a http post form field.  Unfortunately I
have been able to compile it, but get a Class Not
Found Exception when I try access the URL that points
to the sitemap with the mounted action.  I am not
trying to use the action, I just have the action
mounted.  Below is my java action code and I have
attached my stack trace/sitemap as one text file.  Any
help would be appreciated.  I am using red hat 8.0,
j2sdk 1.4, and a cocoon 2.x build from about a month
ago.

Thanks in Advance


*ACTION JAVA CODE**
/*
 * TaskAction.java
 *
 * Created on January 14, 2003, 12:16 PM
 */
package org.apache.cocoon.acting;
/**
 *
 * @author  Julian
 */ 

import org.apache.avalon.framework.context.Context;
import
org.apache.avalon.framework.context.ContextException;
import
org.apache.avalon.framework.context.Contextualizable;
import
org.apache.avalon.framework.parameters.ParameterException;
import
org.apache.avalon.framework.parameters.Parameters;
import org.apache.avalon.framework.thread.ThreadSafe;

import org.apache.cocoon.Constants;
import org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException;
import org.apache.cocoon.acting.AbstractMultiAction;
import
org.apache.cocoon.environment.ObjectModelHelper;
import org.apache.cocoon.environment.Redirector;
import org.apache.cocoon.environment.Request;
import org.apache.cocoon.environment.SourceResolver;

import java.util.Map;

import com.ethidium.wEMR.classes.Task;
import com.ethidium.wEMR.classes.TaskManager;
import com.ethidium.wEMR.classes.TaskGroup;

public class TaskAction extends AbstractMultiAction
implements ThreadSafe {

  public static final String TASK_ACTION =
"task-action";
  public static final String SUBJECT_NODE =
"task-subject-node";
  public static final String CATEGORY =
"task-category";
  public static final String DEST_CATEGORY =
"task-dest-category";
  public static final String DEST_SUBJECT_NODE =
"task-dest-subject-node";
  public static final String TASK_TITLE =
"task-title";
  public static final String TASK_DESCRIPTION =
"task-description";
  public static final String TASK_DUE_DATE =
"task-due-date";
  public static final String TASK_PRIORITY =
"task-priority";
  public static final String TASK_STATUS =
"task-status";
  public static final String TASK_URI = "task-uri";
  public static final String TASK_OWNER =
"task-owner";
  
  /*public Map act (Redirector redirector, 
  SourceResolver resolver, 
  Map objectModel, 
  String source, 
  Parameters params) {
Map sitemapParams = new HashMap();
sitemapParams.put("world", "hello");

Request request =
ObjectModelHelper.getRequest(objectModel);

action = request.getAttribute("action");

return sitemapParams;
  }*/
  
  public Map doCreateTask(Redirector redirector,
   SourceResolver resolver,
   Map objectModel,
   String src,
   Parameters parameters) throws
Exception {
   
Request request =
ObjectModelHelper.getRequest(objectModel);

//determine dest of task to be created
String subjectNode =
parameters.getParameter(SUBJECT_NODE,
 
request.getParameter(SUBJECT_NODE));
String category =
parameters.getParameter(CATEGORY,
 
request.getParameter(CATEGORY));
//get task values
String taskTitle =
parameters.getParameter(TASK_TITLE,
 
request.getParameter(TASK_TITLE));
String taskDescription =
parameters.getParameter(TASK_DESCRIPTION,
 
request.getParameter(TASK_DESCRIPTION));
String taskDueDate =
parameters.getParameter(TASK_DUE_DATE,
 
request.getParameter(TASK_DUE_DATE));
String taskPriority =
parameters.getParameter(TASK_PRIORITY,
 
request.getParameter(TASK_PRIORITY));
String taskStatus =
parameters.getParameter(TASK_STATUS,
 
request.getParameter(TASK_STATUS));
String taskURI =
parameters.getParameter(TASK_URI,
 
request.getParameter(TASK_URI));
String taskOwner =
parameters.getParameter(TASK_OWNER,
 
request.getParameter(TASK_OWNER));

getLogger().info("create task "+taskTitle+" at
"+subjectNode+"/"+category);

TaskManager taskManager = new TaskManager();
Task task = new Task(taskOwner, taskTitle,
taskDescription, taskURI, taskDueDate, taskPriority,
taskStatus);
taskManager.storeTask(subjectNode, category,
task);

return EMPTY_MAP;
  }
}

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AW: Newbie questions about Actions

[Marco Rolappe]

hi lenya,

you compile the java Action code like any other java code, i.e. via javac,
IDE, etc.

if you package the resulting classes as JAR this has to be in WEB-INF/lib of
your cocoon. otherwise the classes go to WEB-INF/classes of you cocoon.

note that the package structure has to be reflected in the directory
hierarchy, i.e. if your class 'bar' is in package 'foo', the class would
have to be in WEB-INF/classes/foo/bar.class.

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Hello,

I've read through userdocs/concepts/actions.html, but still I dont't get
the following (and the docs do not explain this):
I've got Java code of an action. HOW do I compile this and WHERE should I
put the resulting .class file after this.

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Hello,

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