[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11  wrote:
> > 
> > > what is funny now is the absolute contortions the
> > > TM bashers are working themselves into, to refute
> > > and negate this massive concert that will be held
> > > by some of the world's most famous musicians.
> 
> > > i think this concert is so beneficial to reinvigorating
> > > the message of TM, and introducing a new generation to
> > > it. it is something nobody expected, least of all those
> > > who run the TMO. just shows the silent power of the
> > > Maharishi, Guru Dev and all of those who practice this
> > > technique. compared to all of that, these few hysterical
> > > TM critics come across as less and less effective every
> > > day.
> > 
> > I have been puzzling over the concert and certainly see how
> > it has reinvigorated hard core TM'ers.
> 
> Much more interesting is, as ed11 says, how it has
> "reinvogorated" the TM critics. They haven't been so
> distraught in a long while.

Ahem.

You will have "posted out" before Monday.
So, at their current rate, will Nabby and
sparaig and the other compulsive TM 
apologists. Whereas we critics will still 
be here discussing more important things,
like music and appreciating life. 

Which strikes you as more "distraught?"  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the 
> teraining of hte kids and the teachers.  

PLEASE stop saying this.

It isn't true and you know it. The TMO is not
putting a PENNY of its own money on the line.
Not only that, it's MAKING money on every
student instructed.

Same as it ever was. The TMO strategy is to
get OTHER PEOPLE to pay IT for "saving
the world."

Stop perpetuating something that even YOU 
know is a lie, Lawson.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality

[Sal Sunshine]

On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:38 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


THAT is conservatism. The artificial preservation
of the status quo, with the people at the top
*staying* at the top, enforced by "rules" that
ensure that they stay there, regardless of merit.


Those rules more often than not being backed up
by guns of one sort or another, in order to ensure
that whether or not people see through the sham,
they still pay lip service to it.

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[Sal Sunshine]

On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Personally, I think it's fascinating that the
SAME people who were claiming that me asking
enlightened_dawn11 to provide a little proof
that she had ever learned TM or the siddhis
are now "piling on" to Raunchydog's demand
for Vaj to do the same thing.  :-)  :-)  :-)

It's only "invasive" and "an attack" and
"harrassment" if an anti-TMer does it.


Another hallmark of rabid conservatism: hypocrisy.
Do as I say, not as I do.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Sharp pencil? :D

[cardemaister]

One of the best speakers of the 20th century?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KgJQUXr2Ws

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11  
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > what is funny now is the absolute contortions the
> > > > TM bashers are working themselves into, to refute
> > > > and negate this massive concert that will be held
> > > > by some of the world's most famous musicians.
> > 
> > > > i think this concert is so beneficial to reinvigorating
> > > > the message of TM, and introducing a new generation to
> > > > it. it is something nobody expected, least of all those
> > > > who run the TMO. just shows the silent power of the
> > > > Maharishi, Guru Dev and all of those who practice this
> > > > technique. compared to all of that, these few hysterical
> > > > TM critics come across as less and less effective every
> > > > day.
> > > 
> > > I have been puzzling over the concert and certainly see how
> > > it has reinvigorated hard core TM'ers.
> > 
> > Much more interesting is, as ed11 says, how it has
> > "reinvogorated" the TM critics. They haven't been so
> > distraught in a long while.
> >
> 
> Meltdown alert! Hysterics can be vicious as they flail about just before 
> their final fizzle. It never ends well.
> http://tinyurl.com/3sbc66 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfV_ENR5IZE

HeHe, very funny :-)

[FairfieldLife] N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert

[mainstream20016]

Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' support 
for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert :

http://tiny.cc/LNCXC

[FairfieldLife] Re: N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert

[mainstream20016]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
wrote:
>
> Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' 
> support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert :
> 
> http://tiny.cc/LNCXC
>


and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself:

http://tiny.cc/AAMZe

[FairfieldLife] Re: N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert

[mainstream20016]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' 
> > support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert :
> > 
> > http://tiny.cc/LNCXC
> >
> 
> 
> and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself:
> 
> http://tiny.cc/AAMZe


...and Reuter's - " McCartney and Starr reunite in NYC for meditation " 

http://tiny.cc/SDn9Z

[FairfieldLife] Re: N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
wrote:
>
> Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the 
> remaining Beatles' support for TM in the schools. 
> Here's the Times report on the concert :
> 
> http://tiny.cc/LNCXC

Sounds as if it was a great concert.

However ( you knew that was coming, 
right? :-), the elitist in me who 
considers the word "songwriter" to 
be a title that applies to people 
like Leonard Cohen, Bruce Cockburn, 
Jackson Browne, Joni Mitchell, Dylan
and writers who actually deserve to 
be called writers is rather appalled 
at Paul's effort from Rishikesh, 
"Cosmically Conscious" -- 

C'mon, Be Cosmically Conscious,
Cosmically Conscious With Me.
C'mon, Be Cosmically Conscious,
Cosmically Conscious With Me.
Such A Joy, Joy.
Such A Joy, Joy.
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.

I guess you have to be rounding ( and, 
actually, Rishikesh was "pre-rounding," 
so they were just meditating for 6-8 
hours straight, with no asanas or 
breaks ) to appreciate the literary 
and intellectual delights of such a 
song. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMibPI55Ack

Betcha Jim loves it. 

No big words. No concepts to deal
with. Dare I say it, "effortless."
To paraphrase a better Beatles song, 
"Turn off your mind, relax, and float
downstream...it is not mindmush...it
is not mindmush..."

Something good is happening. I guess.

:-)

That said, Sheryl Crow is hot. *And*,
unlike Paul, a decent songwriter. Now
that she's dumped Lance Armstrong, she 
can warm my bicycle seat any day.

[FairfieldLife] TM Concert in NYC

[Rick Archer]

>From a friend:

What a magical night. Sheryl Crowe sang My Sweet Lord, Paul  
McCartney played about 12 songs & Ringo about 4. It was a  
sensational evening. Jerry Seinfeld did stand up & Howard Stern  
told the story of his mother learning to do TM.

Kenny Ross was her teacher. Fred & Shelley Gratzon, Ron Bovard,  
Sheila, Ken. Dennis Ramondi, Susan, Burt ... and a legion of others  
convened at the Marriott they ware staying in for our party.

Ben Harper, Moby & Paul Horn were all amazing.

Jerry Jarvis was there, Paul Faureso, Steve Collins Jane Allon. It  
was an experience of a lifetime. All the performers told stories  
about Maharishi if they had personal contact with him. Liz's  
daughter, Claire Howard, was there reporting for Rolling Stone.

I wanted to get this all down before the excitement wore off. David  
Lynch & Laura Dern MC'd the whole show. The film clips were flawless

We're back in the vanguard. I think there's a new wave of  
meditators coming.
Gotta rest. Paul McCartney is a master.

Love,
Kath

[FairfieldLife] Re: N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' 
> > support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert :
> > 
> > http://tiny.cc/LNCXC
> >
> 
> 
> and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself:
> 
> http://tiny.cc/AAMZe
>

Both news reports emphasized the line-up for the performance and said very 
little about TM or teaching kids to meditate. It is not true and pure snark 
that "this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself." The 
concert sounded like a lot of fun and they raised $3 million for DLF. It was a 
huge success. Sour grapes, much? 

[FairfieldLife] Re: N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' 
> > > support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert :
> > > 
> > > http://tiny.cc/LNCXC
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself:
> > 
> > http://tiny.cc/AAMZe
> >
> 
> Both news reports emphasized the line-up for the performance and said very 
> little about TM or teaching kids to meditate. It is not true and pure snark 
> that "this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself." The 
> concert sounded like a lot of fun and they raised $3 million for DLF. It was 
> a huge success. Sour grapes, much?
>

Sorry, mainstream, my bad. I thought you were a troll. Thanks for the reports.

[FairfieldLife] Re: N Y Times' glowing review of DLF Concert

[mainstream20016]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' 
> > > support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert :
> > > 
> > > http://tiny.cc/LNCXC
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself:
> > 
> > http://tiny.cc/AAMZe
> >
> 
> Both news reports emphasized the line-up for the performance and said very 
> little about TM or teaching kids to meditate. It is not true and pure snark 
> that "this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself." The 
> concert sounded like a lot of fun and they raised $3 million for DLF. It was 
> a huge success. Sour grapes, much?
>

Stop picking a fight, raunchy.  "...could have been written by B. Roth himself 
" is a compliment to Bobby Roth and the DLF.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wind turbines could .. and the Planet Niroba

[uns_tressor]

> grate.swan  wrote:
> 
> This is an interesting and entertaining book -- from first
> glance. But my impression of such books is that they were 
>written by a group from the last Star Trek convention.
>
As for Chapter 15, I think you may be right. It does seem
a bit far fetched.

As for the rest, its a bit like TM. There is no need to believe
anything. Do it and you will see. Build a Bedini SG. Build a
Charles Flynn.

As for VC firms, they are as narrow minded as it is possible to 
get. They will never get involved. They are brain dead.

Yes, Grate Swan, why don't YOU build one?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wind turbines could .. and the Planet Niroba

[uns_tressor]

>"Nelson"  wrote:
> There are a number of off grid electrical systems 
> operating here in Fairfield.
> It is nice to notice the announcement of an increase in electrical 
> rates in the paper and realize it is irrelevant.
>
Irrelevant? Oh, no. As their rates go up, so too do the rates
at which you sell your surplus back to them. You increase your
feed-in tarriff.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Woman Arrived at the Gates of Heaven.....

[Arhata Osho]

A woman arrived at
the Gates of Heaven. While she was waiting for Saint Peter to greet
her, she peeked through the gates. She saw a beautiful banquet table.
Sitting all around were her parents and all the other people she had
loved and who had died before her. They saw her and began calling
greetings to her, "Hello - How are you! We've been waiting for you!
Good to see you."

When Saint Peter came by, the woman said to him, "This is such a wonderful 
place! How do I get in?"
"You have to spell a word," Saint Peter told her.

"Which word?" the woman asked.

"Love."

The woman correctly spelled "Love" and Saint Peter welcomed her into Heaven..

About
a year later, Saint Peter came to the woman and asked her to watch the
Gates of Heaven for him that day. While the woman was guarding the
Gates of Heaven, her husband arrived.

"I'm surprised to see you," the woman said. "How have you been?"

"Oh,
I've been doing pretty well since you died," her husband told her. "I
married the beautiful young nurse who took care of you while you were
ill. And then I won the multi-state lottery. I sold the little house
you and I lived in and bought a huge mansion. And my wife and I
travelled all around the world. We were on vacation in Cancun and I
went water skiing today. I fell and hit my head, and here I am. What a
bummer! How do I get in?"

"You have to spell a word," the woman told him.

"Which word?" her husband asked.

"Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis" , she replied.  :):):):)


Moral of the story: Never make a woman angry . . . there will be Hell to pay!


NB:
The longest word currently listed in the Oxford dictionary is the
supposed lung-disease pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanokoniosis (45
letters). 


http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/




  


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: BEATLES RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL 4/4/09

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> 1- DRIVE MY CAR
> 2- LADY MADONNA
> 3- LET IT BE
> 4-BLACKBIRD
> 5- CAN'T BUY ME LOVE
> 6-LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS
> 7-I SAW HER STANDING THERE
> 8-JET
> 9-BAND ON THE RUN
> 10-JOHN LENNON DEDICATION SONG
> 11- YELLOW SUBMARINE
> 12-BOYS
> 13-IT DON'T COME EASY
>  
> IMG_0150
[snip]

The pics don't show up on the website. Here's a PDF of the emailed post with 
the pictures included:

http://is.gd/qQk5

[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:38 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > THAT is conservatism. The artificial preservation
> > of the status quo, with the people at the top
> > *staying* at the top, enforced by "rules" that
> > ensure that they stay there, regardless of merit.
> 
> Those rules more often than not being backed up
> by guns of one sort or another, in order to ensure
> that whether or not people see through the sham,
> they still pay lip service to it.
> 
> Sal
>
  People are starting to see and, lip service is fading.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wind turbines could .. and the Planet Niroba

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor"  wrote:
>
> >"Nelson"  wrote:
> > There are a number of off grid electrical systems 
> > operating here in Fairfield.
> > It is nice to notice the announcement of an increase in electrical 
> > rates in the paper and realize it is irrelevant.
> >
> Irrelevant? Oh, no. As their rates go up, so too do the rates
> at which you sell your surplus back to them. You increase your
> feed-in tarriff.
>
  Not being connected to the grid, I don't have that problem.

[FairfieldLife] Duplicity

[TurquoiseB]

No, not the Rajas dressing up as straight people
for the cameras, the movie. :-)

I just watched it, and I don't understand why it
didn't do better. There is great chemistry here
onscreen, between two of the great masters of
chemistry, Julia Roberts and Clive Owen. Good
plot and backup performances from Paul Giamatti
and Tom Wilkinson to boot. Snappy dialog, corp-
orate espionage, players who are totally unemo-
tional professionals...except when jealousy and 
emotion gets in the way, the whole tamale. 

It's a caper flick, a "quadruple game," a classic
of the genre, the original "Thomas Crown Affair"-
like, with twists and turns and tension out the 
wazoo. And funny and sexy to boot. 

But it flopped at the box office. As if Julia 
Roberts were too old to lust after or something. 
Maybe it's the Taos vibe (she lives there, and I 
used to live in Santa Fe), but I still think she's 
hotter than yer average babe. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] What's so special about Sarah?

[raunchydog]

"Remember when liberals and progressives said that the sex lives of politicians 
were nobody's business?  Now they want to know about the intimate details of 
the sex life of Sarah Palin's  daughter!  Talk about hypocrisy."

read more:
http://tinyurl.com/c2dx6g
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/04/04/whats-so-special-about-sarah/

UPDATE:

"My post yesterday "What's so special about Sarah" brought out the trolls like 
bailout money brings out the CEO's.  I was struck by the fact that all their 
criticism of her is based on lies.  This comment is typical:

lauren, on April 4th, 2009 at 11:27 pm Said:

I hate her because she's murdering wolves from airplanes, and encouraging 
that behavior…because she's rabidly anti-choice, and loss of our freedom is 
terrifying to me."

Read more:
Un-Enlightened Obots
http://tinyurl.com/c8246h
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/un-enlightened-obots/
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[shukra69]

to talk of it isn't true and you know- who can be said to be making money? a 
non-profit org? A non-profit does not destroy itself to fund its current 
programs.Bevan's salary is known through public disclosure -it a very small 
amount. I have seen the salaries of other head of non-profits- its nothing by 
comparison.
Its a complete falsehood to speak of "making money" .
 The result of the David Lynch Foundation can be seen in 100,000 students 
currently meditating in GROUPS in the program.
So to YOU 
"PLEASE stop saying this."

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the 
> > teraining of hte kids and the teachers.  
> 
> PLEASE stop saying this.
> 
> It isn't true and you know it. The TMO is not
> putting a PENNY of its own money on the line.
> Not only that, it's MAKING money on every
> student instructed.
> 
> Same as it ever was. The TMO strategy is to
> get OTHER PEOPLE to pay IT for "saving
> the world."
> 
> Stop perpetuating something that even YOU 
> know is a lie, Lawson.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:

> Personally, I think it's fascinating that the
> SAME people who were claiming that me asking
> enlightened_dawn11 to provide a little proof
> that she had ever learned TM or the siddhis
> are now "piling on" to Raunchydog's demand
> for Vaj to do the same thing.  :-)  :-)  :-)

Notice that Barry is having a little trouble
with his sentence structure here. What exactly
were these people claiming before they piled on?
That part of the sentence seems to have gotten
detached and put in the next sentence.

Oopsie.

> It's only "invasive" and "an attack" and
> "harrassment" if an anti-TMer does it.

No, it's only "invasive" and "an attack" and
"hartassment" [sic] if there's no good reason
for it.

(And I wasn't "piling on" to Raunchy's demand;
I was explaining to Curtis why it was reasonable
to wonder if Vaj had ever been a TM teacher, and
how he could provide some evidence without
revealing his name if he wanted to ensure vicious
TMers wouldn't be able to hunt him down.)

And BTW, if Barry is so sure ed11 is Jim, why
is he asking for proof of her TMer credentials?
He never asked Jim.

Double-oopsie.

Oh, my, and the other day Barry made it crystal
clear the term "anti-TMer" was a deadly insult--
and here he's using it to describe himself!

Triple-oopsie.

Could Barry be a little...distraught?

Maybe the success of the concert and Barry's
interest in McCartney's songwriting prowess has
reminded him of this song:


Dear Sir or Madam, will you read my book?
It took me years to write, will you take a look?
It's based on a novel by a man named Lear
And I need a job, so I want to be a paperback writer
Paperback writer

It's the dirty story of a dirty man
And his clinging wife doesn't understand
His son is working for the Daily Mail
It's a steady job but he wants to be a paperback writer
Paperback writer

Paperback writer

It's a thousand pages, give or take a few
I'll be writing more in a week or two
I can make it longer if you like the style
I can change it round and I want to be a paperback writer
Paperback writer

If you really like it, you can have the rights
It could make a million for you overnight
If you must return it, you can send it here
But I need a break and I want to be a paperback writer
Paperback writer

Paperback writer

Paperback writer, paperback writer
Paperback writer, paperback writer
Paperback writer, paperback writer
...

© 
SONY/ATV TUNES LLC© SONY BEATLES LTD
Lyrics provided by Gracenote

[FairfieldLife] McCartney:"rule the world,"

[shukra69]

"It started for us when we met the Maharishi in India and it's going to get 
bigger and bigger and rule the world," McCartney said 

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN05371050

Re: [FairfieldLife] BEATLES RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL 4/4/09

[Sal Sunshine]

Cosmic.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] The Palin Family Soap Opera - Continuing Adventures

[do.rflex]

TODAY'S EPISODE ~ 

-Levi Johnston says ex-fiance Bristol Palin, daughter of Alaska Gov. Sarah 
Palin, allows him to visit their 3-month-old son but won't let him take the 
baby out.

In an interview to air Monday with talk show host Tyra Banks, Johnston, 19, 
said he and 18-year-old Bristol don't always get along.

"Some days we can have regular conversations without fighting," Johnston said. 
"Most of the times, I don't know what's wrong with her. She's in a pretty bad 
mood, she's short, she doesn't want me around, I don't think. She says that I 
can come see the baby and that kind of thing, but won't let me take him 
anywhere."

The two are the parents of an infant son, Tripp, born on Dec. 27.

Palin family spokeswoman Meghan Stapleton said Bristol Palin was unaware 
Johnston would be appearing on "The Tyra Banks Show," along with his mother, 
Sherry, and sister, Mercede.

"We're disappointed that Levi and his family, in a quest for fame, attention 
and fortune, are engaging in flat-out lies, gross exaggeration, and even 
distortion of their relationship," Stapleton said in a statement Friday.
==


Whew. That spokeswoman told them! I mean, working for Sarah Palin, I'll bet she 
knows whereof she speaks.


==
In the interview with Banks, Johnston said the Alaska governor probably knew he 
and Bristol were having sex. "Moms are pretty smart," he said.
=


Well, Levi's mom wasn't smart enough to avoid getting busted for (allegedly) 
selling "hillbilly heroin" to an undercover cop in the Target parking lot.


=
In other news, Todd Palin's sister—Tripp Palin's great aunt—was busted on 
Thursday for burglary:
=


Todd Palin's half-sister was arrested Thursday after police say she broke into 
a Wasilla home to steal money for the second time this week but ended up 
getting caught by the armed homeowner with her 4-year-old daughter nearby. […]

Police arrested 35-year-old Diana Palin at a house on West Mill Site Circle 
near Wasilla's Multi-Use Sports Complex.

Homeowner Theodore Turcott told police an unfamiliar gray 1993 Toyota Camry 
pulled into his driveway Thursday morning, according to a affidavit filed 
Friday at Palmer courthouse. Turcott told police he'd been burglarized twice in 
the last week: Someone stole $2,200 on March 26, leaving $400 behind; after 
another apparent break-in Tuesday all but $9 was gone.

So, Turcott told police, when he didn't recognize the woman getting out of the 
Camry, he grabbed a gun and hid in the bathroom to see what happened, said 
Wasilla police Deputy Chief Greg Wood.

Palin made straight for the bedroom cabinet where Turcott kept his cash, Wood 
said. Turcott confronted her, detaining her until police arrived, he said.

But before officers got there, Palin's 4-year-old daughter came in the house, 
the prosecutor handling the case said during a Palmer District Court hearing 
Friday afternoon.

"There was a significant safety issue regarding this 4-year-old child," 
prosecutor Mike Walsh told Judge John Wolfe.

The girl told police she'd been to the house a couple of days earlier, the 
affidavit stated. Palin, however, said she had never been there before, and 
mistakenly thought it was a friend's house.

How Palin chose Turcott's house to enter remains unclear. Palin and her 
husband, Scott McLean, live in a completely different neighborhood on the other 
side of Wasilla.

McLean was not at the Friday hearing. Earlier in the day, he said he learned of 
his wife's arrest when police called him Thursday morning to come pick up their 
daughter. He'd assumed Palin was arrested for driving on a suspended license 
due to a series of traffic offenses including speeding and expired registration.

==
Remember, Sarah Palin is a family values candidate.

~~All links here:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/3/716349/-The-Palin-Crime-Family

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Woman Arrived at the Gates of Heaven.....

[Duveyoung]

Arhata,

Your post, below, is a "hate joke."  It makes fun of women for what is 
essentially their best quality -- the ability to know their emotional field 
with a clarity men know not of.

I'm probably going to get in trouble with women in this essay, but here I go.

A man can remember thoughts he had years ago, but only a few -- out of the 
millions he had, but a woman can remember emotions she had like a history 
professor, like an idiot savant, like men remembering a sports score.

And woe unto civilization if women were built differently.  They constantly 
remind men that the tender feeling level is the place to reconnoiter in order 
to find out if something's amiss.  If that level is uneasy, something must be 
fixed, and if it's not fixed, LOOK THE FUCK OUT.

How do you spell DOOM -- living only in the desert of conceptuality.  Women are 
the oasis that calls to the minds of men and reminds them that all they think 
comes to naught if this heart value is not satisfied.

Ask any of the millionaire men who get divorced what all their power and logic 
did that mattered in this regard. If one doesn't take care of the tender 
feeling level, one is on a pogo stick in a race against a Lamborghini.  

Women know the tender feeling level, and most of them cannot abide any 
"largish" disturbances in THE FORCE.  They have an "emotional cop" inside them 
that HAS TO note the infractions as they get created by the marauding 
conceptualists. 

Ask any man if he wants to come home to a wife who's chewing on a burped up bit 
from twenty years ago.  Ask him if that bit is still a raw nerve in her being 
twanged like Arjuna's Gandiva.  Ask a man if such a woman is a force to be 
reckoned with.

To me, if anything, women should be made fun of for NOT tending to the tender 
feeling level.  When a woman does something she knows isn't jiggy with her 
heart, that's like a man putting false data into a computerboth know that 
sooner or later things are going to crunch to a jarring halt.

So, women of the world -- police yourselves better -- get women to recognize 
the almost absolute life-supporting dynamic for which they are resonating 
experts.  Take up your power with the confidence that men show when they park 
their brand new $60,000 truck in the driveway.  Strut yer stuff ladies -- make 
it so obvious that you ladies are no longer going to be putting up with the men 
who will pooh pooh any woman's intuitions.  Stop holding things in.  Make it 
known that the tender feeling level must be satisfied -- and that means the 
woman's feelings change for the better, and they may not be able to predict 
what will make that happen -- but they'll know it when it arrives.  

Men: don't try to force a woman to explain her emotions.  Women: don't let the 
men divert your holy cause with conceptual baubles -- "Oh, Honey, here's a two 
caret diamond party ring. Now doesn't that make up for my affair?"  Tell the 
clod, "Nope!" but take the ring just to ram it home that he's not paying 
attention to the real problems.

Not that a man cannot conceptually augment a woman's understanding about some 
situation and thereby have her say, "Oh, never mind." And the emotion will drop 
off her radar. 

Yes, that can happen.  For instance:  "No, Honey, I didn't take the job, 
because they wanted someone to come in and kick ass and fuck over folks right 
and left, so don't worry about how I'll be coming home to you.  Instead, I'm 
going to take that job where there's true hearts concerned for all the 
employees welfare."

Now that example is an extreme, right?  It shocked the men here, right?  But, 
FUCKING A -- that's what this world needs: women calling their men on the kind 
of shit they're willing to put up with and heap upon others for a buck -- women 
who know how it roils the lives of a man's loved ones when he brings the 
negativity of the office home to the hearth.

If you've ever worked in a large corporation, you know many times you heard 
someone say, "He's on the warpath today, so don't get in his way."  (Yes, we 
know how unfair it is that a woman is a bitch if she's like this.)  And those 
folks who abide by a man's semi-controlled rage in the workplace are as if 
saying, "Fuck all you families out there -- it ain't good business if the 
employees aren't whipped to their max outputs, and we just don't care how that 
man of yours feels when he gets home to you.  This angry boss gets to shit on 
anyone today."

Women feel that about a man when he enters the house.  They feel his fatigue, 
the crosses he was forced to bear, the heap of emotional sinning he piled up 
that day -- his shame -- a shame that he doesn't even know well enough to put a 
finger on it conceptually.  

When a man comes home like that, he's needing triage bigtime, and that's cuts 
into the woman's ability to do all the other family activities with the light 
heartedness that family activities require.

The Veda speaks about the purity of women being the found

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:

> > It's only "invasive" and "an attack" and
> > "harrassment" if an anti-TMer does it.
> 
> No, it's only "invasive" and "an attack" and
> "hartassment" [sic] if there's no good reason
> for it.

My oopsie: "hartassment" isn't [sic], "harrassment"
is [sic].

[FairfieldLife] Re: McCartney:"rule the world,"

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"  wrote:
>
> "It started for us when we met the Maharishi in India and it's going to get 
> bigger and bigger and rule the world," McCartney said 

Wow, I wish I could remember why the Beatles left India in the first place.  It 
must have been to write a bunch of songs about how great Maharishi was!  
Anyho with the continuous efforts of the Beatles touring with Maharishi (at 
Maharishi's request which was turned down) I'm sure Paul is right.

One more thing Sir Paul, exactly how many times did you meditate in the last 
year yourself?  And what is that smell coming out of your dressing room?

Another Thanksgiving with the dysfunctional family. 


> 
> http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN05371050
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > Personally, I think it's fascinating that the
> > SAME people who were claiming that me asking
> > enlightened_dawn11 to provide a little proof
> > that she had ever learned TM or the siddhis
> > are now "piling on" to Raunchydog's demand
> > for Vaj to do the same thing.  :-)  :-)  :-)
> >
> > It's only "invasive" and "an attack" and
> > "harrassment" if an anti-TMer does it.
> 
> Another hallmark of rabid conservatism: hypocrisy.
> Do as I say, not as I do.

Good grief, Sal, don't you ever tire of getting caught
on the wrong end of Barry's little scams?

You aren't smart enough to see 'em coming, so you're a
lot better off not chiming in and making yourself look
gullible.

[FairfieldLife] Four Questions Of Value Under The Stars

[TurquoiseB]

One of the benefits of being a renter is being the 
renter of a quiet, secret 10 X 15-meter garden in
the heart of a gardenless city center, and having
the owner of the property be responsible for its 
upkeep.

As a result, the last few days have seen two Argen-
tine gardeners slaving away to clear a year's worth
of overgrowth and pine needles ( 43 large garbage 
bags' worth ) from my garden, while I got to work
at my job and get paid for working. These two nice
guys just cleared away the last of the debris today, 
and I am sitting in my garden now appreciating their 
efforts over a cold beer, just as Spring arrives in 
full force here in Sitges.

Now that it's cleaned up, one of the next things 
on my agenda is to go out and take advantage of the
recession to buy one of those now-underpriced 
digital projectors so that this Spring and Summer
I can have "movie nights" out in the garden.

It's a joy I remember from Morocco, where on the
Air Force base I grew up on, we had a weird kind 
of "walk-in drive-in theater." This theater, and
making out in it under the stars with my girlfriends 
at ages 15 and 16, formed an indelible impression in 
my young mind, one that I've been hoping to recreate 
ever since.

This year I finally get the chance. HD projectors
are now cheap enough to make it feasible. So start-
ing ( hopefully ) next week, I get to share my 2000+
entry film library with my friends here in Sitges,
under the stars. 

The "rules" are simple -- I provide the food and
the movies, they provide the drinks. ( Although, 
to be honest, I always have to supply some of the
drinks because they never bring enough to any of
my gatherings. ) And then ( theoretically ) we just 
sit out under the stars and enjoy a movie, and then 
kick back and talk about it, and talk about the 
stars, both cinematic and astronomical. 

The first film in this summer's Uncle Tantra Film 
Festival is going to be one of my all-time favorites. 
I've told my friends about it many times, but being
( on the whole ) younger than I am and caught up in 
the pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-cynical milieu of 
modern-day Spain, many of them have never been able 
to kick back and enjoy the delights of a nice romantic 
fable, in a nice romantic setting. I hope to rectify 
that by showing them Jeremy Leven's wonderful "Don 
Juan De Marco."

In other parts of the world, people are getting 
all excited because their religion ( which they
would fight to the death to deny is a religion )
is in the News, and they feel a sense of renewed
inspiration that others are soon going to be 
converted to believe as they do, and dedicate
their lives to the pursuit of the Ultimate 
Ineffable Goal, enlightenment. 

Me, I have lesser goals. I'm just hoping to share
this cool garden space and a really sweet film 
with a few friends, and to watch them smile as
some of its great scenes act themselves out under
the stars for their amusement.

To each his or her own goals, I guess...

"There are only four questions of value 
in life, Don Octavio. What is sacred? 
Of what is the spirit made? What is worth 
living for, and what is worth dying for? 
The answer to each is the same: only love."

[FairfieldLife] Jesus! Jerry Seinfeld a Practicing Hindu?!

[grate . swan]

I had no idea! Much less Sheryl Crow, Howard Stern, Eddie Vedder, Laura Dern, 
Moby and all.  All practicing Hindus! (Not that there is anything wrong with 
that.) Who knew!

[FairfieldLife] What happened to Woolworth's?

[shempmcgurk]

Believe it or not, Woolworth's became...










Footlocker!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > 
> >  I wish I had started at
> > > the start of my senior year in HS instead of a
> > > few months after the end.
> > 
> > And I wish I had never started and my friends never
> > started.  I wish my friends had never become parusha
> > or siddhas and lived lives sucking resources from
> > others. I wish that they didn't take enemas and weird
> > supplements to cure chronic disease.  
> > 
> > School is  not for spiritual development.  Meditate
> > after school.  Sit in silence after school.  Pray after
> > school.
> 
> You sound like maybe you're a candidate for John Knapp's
> counseling services, Ruth. I'm serious; that's not snark.
> You seem genuinely distraught.
> 
> He apparently does counseling over the phone, BTW.

I'm getting a very disingenuous vibe here Judy.  None of the issues Ruth 
mentioned as concerns have anything to do with John's practice.

She mentions she wishes she had never started and doesn't tell us why.  Wishes 
her friends hadn't become unable to support themselves and ended up begging 
money from their friends causing the conflicted feelings when you care about 
someone who is shaking you down instead of working.  She is upset that some of 
her friends took pseudo scientific advice for chronic diseases and I'm guessing 
that this is because they didn't work.  Then she states basically our society's 
consensus belief that specific religions not be taught in schools.

These are all legitimate reasons to be as you spin it "distraught" and I would 
term it, normally pissed off for good reason.

The physiological demonetization of people who challenge this teaching is a bit 
of a trend with you lately.  When I expressed my experience that Maharishi 
ignored his followers, you claimed I have "repressed resentment" coloring my 
thinking.  Ruth makes a list of things how the movement involvement has hurt 
her friendships and you "kindly" advise her to get a check up from the neck up.

Do you really need to resort to this tactic?  You have plenty of legitimate 
challenges to both of our POVs here.  How about knocking off the sophist's 
trick of making is seem as if the person who has issues with the teaching are 
caused by a physiological condition instead of dealing with the issues brought 
up.

You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions here.  Neither of 
us are summing up your objections as stemming from a psychological problem you 
have.  Is it too much to ask for this courtesy in return?




>

[FairfieldLife] Smedley Butler, War is a racket

[I am the eternal]

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that
period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business,
for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for
capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American
oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the
National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of
half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I
helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown
Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the
American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the
American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that
Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have
given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket
in three districts. I operated on three continents."

- Maj.Gen.Smedley Butler, 1935, awarded twice the Congressional Medal of
Honor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the 
> > teraining of hte kids and the teachers.  
> 
> PLEASE stop saying this.

Funny, I don't recall Lawson having said anything
before that could be interpreted to mean he thinks
TM is paying.

In fact, in a recent post, he said, "The entire
thing is funded by the DLF."

Perhaps Barry meant to write "Please DON'T say this"?
I mean, we know he's having quite a struggle today
to express himself clearly.

> It isn't true and you know it. The TMO is not
> putting a PENNY of its own money on the line.

Reasonable people who weren't looking for an excuse
to put down a TMer would assume, given the givens,
that Lawson didn't intend to suggest the TMO was
funding it, that he meant something else entirely.

I'm not sure exactly what he *did* mean, but one
could always ask before activating one's peashooter
(not to mention falsely suggesting Lawson had 
previously said what one is shooting at when he
hadn't).
 
> Stop perpetuating something that even YOU 
> know is a lie, Lawson.

Oh, my, I guess Barry didn't mean "DON'T say this."
He *did* mean to suggest (knowingly falsely) that
Lawson had been saying it all along.

So much for giving Barry the benefit of the doubt.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Palin Family Soap Opera - Continuing Adventures

[Sal Sunshine]

It's unbelievable, isn't it?
Ah, those "family values" Repugs...
You gotta give em credit--
nobody does hypocrisy like they do.

Sal

Keep these comin, flex!
They make my day. :)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the 
> > > teraining of hte kids and the teachers.  
> > 
> > PLEASE stop saying this.
> 
> Funny, I don't recall Lawson having said anything
> before that could be interpreted to mean he thinks
> TM is paying.
> 
> In fact, in a recent post, he said, "The entire
> thing is funded by the DLF."

This was all based on his misunderstanding of my statement that our schools are 
underfunded. I didn't know why he went off on this tangent in the first place.



> 
> Perhaps Barry meant to write "Please DON'T say this"?
> I mean, we know he's having quite a struggle today
> to express himself clearly.
> 
> > It isn't true and you know it. The TMO is not
> > putting a PENNY of its own money on the line.
> 
> Reasonable people who weren't looking for an excuse
> to put down a TMer would assume, given the givens,
> that Lawson didn't intend to suggest the TMO was
> funding it, that he meant something else entirely.
> 
> I'm not sure exactly what he *did* mean, but one
> could always ask before activating one's peashooter
> (not to mention falsely suggesting Lawson had 
> previously said what one is shooting at when he
> hadn't).
>  
> > Stop perpetuating something that even YOU 
> > know is a lie, Lawson.
> 
> Oh, my, I guess Barry didn't mean "DON'T say this."
> He *did* mean to suggest (knowingly falsely) that
> Lawson had been saying it all along.
> 
> So much for giving Barry the benefit of the doubt.
>

[FairfieldLife] After the Beatles

[Hugo]

Let's face it, after they split three of the beatles did nothing
but demonstrate that they were so much more than the sum of their
parts.

Wings were dead tedious, not a memorable tune ever. 
"Imagine"? pass the sick bag. The plastic ono band? Not for me 
thanks. Can't even remember what George did, a bit of chanting maybe.

But Ringo, now he had the right idea. Marry a Bond girl, get
outrageously drunk for ten years and then narrate Thomas the tank
engine stories...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6eihw_thomas-train_shortfilms

Talk about emerging with integrity intact!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[Sal Sunshine]

On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions here.   
Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming from a  
psychological problem you have.  Is it too much to ask for this  
courtesy in return?


In Judy's case, yes.  That's apparently the only
way she wants to deal with legitimate objections--
villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation
and fake "concern" instead of responding rationally. And then
she accuses others of being "distraught."  Which is
why I don't deal with her any more...there's no honor
amongst thieves, or, it would seem, manipulators and phonies.

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] After the Beatles

[Sal Sunshine]

On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Hugo wrote:


Let's face it, after they split three of the beatles did nothing
but demonstrate that they were so much more than the sum of their
parts.

Wings were dead tedious, not a memorable tune ever.
"Imagine"? pass the sick bag. The plastic ono band? Not for me
thanks. Can't even remember what George did, a bit of chanting maybe.


He got hung up on the Savoy Truffle.


But Ringo, now he had the right idea. Marry a Bond girl, get
outrageously drunk for ten years and then narrate Thomas the tank
engine stories...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6eihw_thomas-train_shortfilms

Talk about emerging with integrity intact!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > 
> > >  I wish I had started at
> > > > the start of my senior year in HS instead of a
> > > > few months after the end.
> > > 
> > > And I wish I had never started and my friends never
> > > started.  I wish my friends had never become parusha
> > > or siddhas and lived lives sucking resources from
> > > others. I wish that they didn't take enemas and weird
> > > supplements to cure chronic disease.  
> > > 
> > > School is  not for spiritual development.  Meditate
> > > after school.  Sit in silence after school.  Pray after
> > > school.
> > 
> > You sound like maybe you're a candidate for John Knapp's
> > counseling services, Ruth. I'm serious; that's not snark.
> > You seem genuinely distraught.
> > 
> > He apparently does counseling over the phone, BTW.
> 
> I'm getting a very disingenuous vibe here Judy.  None of 
> the issues Ruth mentioned as concerns have anything to 
> do with John's practice.
> 
> She mentions she wishes she had never started and doesn't 
> tell us why.  Wishes her friends hadn't become unable to 
> support themselves and ended up begging money from their 
> friends causing the conflicted feelings when you care about 
> someone who is shaking you down instead of working.  She 
> is upset that some of her friends took pseudo scientific 
> advice for chronic diseases and I'm guessing that this is 
> because they didn't work.  Then she states basically our 
> society's consensus belief that specific religions not be 
> taught in schools.
> 
> These are all legitimate reasons to be as you spin it 
> "distraught" and I would term it, normally pissed off 
> for good reason.
> 
> The physiological demonetization of people who challenge 
> this teaching is a bit of a trend with you lately.  When 
> I expressed my experience that Maharishi ignored his 
> followers, you claimed I have "repressed resentment" 
> coloring my thinking.  Ruth makes a list of things how 
> the movement involvement has hurt her friendships and 
> you "kindly" advise her to get a check up from the 
> neck up.
> 
> Do you really need to resort to this tactic?  You have 
> plenty of legitimate challenges to both of our POVs here.  
> How about knocking off the sophist's trick of making is 
> seem as if the person who has issues with the teaching 
> are caused by a physiological condition instead of 
> dealing with the issues brought up.
> 
> You have plenty of emotion that you express in your 
> positions here.  Neither of us are summing up your 
> objections as stemming from a psychological problem 
> you have.  Is it too much to ask for this courtesy 
> in return?

While, as always, I bow to Curtis' ability 
to "see the best in people," and speak to 
them or about them as if they were rational
human beings and not pre-programmed automatons,
I will respond *as I see it*, to Judy, as one
of the premiere examples on this forum of a 
pre-programmed automaton.

Judy's ENTIRE position can be summed up in 
her own words below:

> Trusting your experience is fine. Having an aha
> moment in which you know you don't believe is fine.
> 
> What's *not* fine, IMHO, is including in that aha
> moment of knowledge about your own lack of belief
> the "knowledge" that other people are "feeding off 
> of each other's hysteria."
> 
> That's just a way to make yourself feel better 
> about your inability to have good results.

There is a phrase to describe this position. 
It is called "Blame the victim."

Ruth's "problem" -- her "failure" -- is that 
she was "incapable of having good results."

Whereas Judy was. And as all of the TBs she 
so egomaniacally seeks to represent supposedly
were capable of having.

The issue here is ELITISM, pure and simple.
Judy and those who believe as she does are
the "elite." They were "evolved" enough to
appreciate the great gifts that Maharishi
sold them and "capable" of "having good 
results." Ruth, ignoramus and "incapable" 
as she is, was not.

THAT is the message that Judy is trying to
convey. Curtis is being easy on the bitch.
I have no such reservations.

Judy's ENTIRE position is that anyone who does
not agree with her as to 1) what Maharishi
"really meant" when he said things, 2) what 
his "message" really was, 3) what the "benefit"
of that message was, and 4) pretty much anything
else she has an opinion on is a LOSER. They are
somehow LESS than she is, "incapable" of seeing
how profound the things she believes are pro-
found "really" are.

Curtis is being *kind* to Judy here, treating
her as if there is still a human being "in there
somewhere" that could possibly respond to being
treated like one. I see no such human being. I
see only an automaton, one who repeats ( almost
verbatim, like the uncreative parrot she is )
The T

[FairfieldLife] Re: Four Questions Of Value Under The Stars

[grate . swan]

Sounds like a good time for one and all. Why not make it international? Post 
the film sufficiently in advance so global cinematic voyeurs can bring NetFlix 
tetering to its knees with the sudden global demand for a particular flick 
(though its on "instant" -- it will only clobber their servers. You could Skype 
your patio so participants from afar could converse. With some 2-way video to 
make it a bit more intimate. And of course real time chat. The time difference 
might be a bummer. But then that gives you an excuse to cinematically party at 
all hours. And global participants could be encouraged to wire you a case of 
fine wines from the local region. 
The UT International Film Festival, Revival and Continuous Party. 
And get the stars, writers and directors involved. Invite Liv when you show 
Stealing Beauty. And Eva Greene -- well just invite her always.

"The sun never sets on a good flick."

Can we start with Godard? :)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> 
> Now that it's cleaned up, one of the next things 
> on my agenda is to go out and take advantage of the
> recession to buy one of those now-underpriced 
> digital projectors so that this Spring and Summer
> I can have "movie nights" out in the garden.
> 
> It's a joy I remember from Morocco, where on the
> Air Force base I grew up on, we had a weird kind 
> of "walk-in drive-in theater." This theater, and
> making out in it under the stars with my girlfriends 
> at ages 15 and 16, formed an indelible impression in 
> my young mind, one that I've been hoping to recreate 
> ever since.
> 
> This year I finally get the chance. HD projectors
> are now cheap enough to make it feasible. So start-
> ing ( hopefully ) next week, I get to share my 2000+
> entry film library with my friends here in Sitges,
> under the stars. 
> 
> The "rules" are simple -- I provide the food and
> the movies, they provide the drinks. ( Although, 
> to be honest, I always have to supply some of the
> drinks because they never bring enough to any of
> my gatherings. ) And then ( theoretically ) we just 
> sit out under the stars and enjoy a movie, and then 
> kick back and talk about it, and talk about the 
> stars, both cinematic and astronomical. 
> 
> The first film in this summer's Uncle Tantra Film 
> Festival is going to be one of my all-time favorites. 
> I've told my friends about it many times, but being
> ( on the whole ) younger than I am and caught up in 
> the pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-cynical milieu of 
> modern-day Spain, many of them have never been able 
> to kick back and enjoy the delights of a nice romantic 
> fable, in a nice romantic setting. I hope to rectify 
> that by showing them Jeremy Leven's wonderful "Don 
> Juan De Marco."
> 
> In other parts of the world, people are getting 
> all excited because their religion ( which they
> would fight to the death to deny is a religion )
> is in the News, and they feel a sense of renewed
> inspiration that others are soon going to be 
> converted to believe as they do, and dedicate
> their lives to the pursuit of the Ultimate 
> Ineffable Goal, enlightenment. 
> 
> Me, I have lesser goals. I'm just hoping to share
> this cool garden space and a really sweet film 
> with a few friends, and to watch them smile as
> some of its great scenes act themselves out under
> the stars for their amusement.
> 
> To each his or her own goals, I guess...
> 
> "There are only four questions of value 
> in life, Don Octavio. What is sacred? 
> Of what is the spirit made? What is worth 
> living for, and what is worth dying for? 
> The answer to each is the same: only love."
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] McCartney:"rule the world,"

[Bhairitu]

shukra69 wrote:
> "It started for us when we met the Maharishi in India and it's going to get 
> bigger and bigger and rule the world," McCartney said 
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN05371050
>
>
>   
We don't need no stinkin' theocracies.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Duplicity

[Bhairitu]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> No, not the Rajas dressing up as straight people
> for the cameras, the movie. :-)
>
> I just watched it, and I don't understand why it
> didn't do better. There is great chemistry here
> onscreen, between two of the great masters of
> chemistry, Julia Roberts and Clive Owen. Good
> plot and backup performances from Paul Giamatti
> and Tom Wilkinson to boot. Snappy dialog, corp-
> orate espionage, players who are totally unemo-
> tional professionals...except when jealousy and 
> emotion gets in the way, the whole tamale. 
>
> It's a caper flick, a "quadruple game," a classic
> of the genre, the original "Thomas Crown Affair"-
> like, with twists and turns and tension out the 
> wazoo. And funny and sexy to boot. 
>
> But it flopped at the box office. As if Julia 
> Roberts were too old to lust after or something. 
> Maybe it's the Taos vibe (she lives there, and I 
> used to live in Santa Fe), but I still think she's 
> hotter than yer average babe. Go figure.
If she could only act.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[Vaj]

On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:


On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions  
here.  Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming  
from a psychological problem you have.  Is it too much to ask for  
this courtesy in return?


In Judy's case, yes.  That's apparently the only
way she wants to deal with legitimate objections--
villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation
and fake "concern" instead of responding rationally. And then
she accuses others of being "distraught."  Which is
why I don't deal with her any more...there's no honor
amongst thieves, or, it would seem, manipulators and phonies.



Yes, you're right, these have been common tactics in the past--all  
part and parcel of her overall dishonest approach. Another fave, and  
if I'm grokking tidbits in others clippings correctly, is when nailed  
on something or particularly when some TM dogmatic point she's VERY  
attached to is rent asunder, rather than addressing the actual  
intellectual or factual elements of the argument, she'll switch to  
some unrelated element in the person: they don't understand stand TM  
(as when they no longer use TM speak), their counseling practice,  
faulty TM practice, etc. The varieties seem endless, but the pattern  
is observable and repeated. It's interesting the person who seems so  
fond of telling people they are guilty of non sequiturs is actually  
the one who tries to craftily use them herself. Apparently  
misdirection must be the only way she can respond when arguments stray  
outside of TB/SCI/TM milieu. Sometimes it's better to just shuddup.


Of course she could have some strange vitamin deficiency related to  
shoe leather. ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[Sal Sunshine]

On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Vaj wrote:

Of course she could have some strange vitamin deficiency related to  
shoe leather. ;-)


LOL

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality

[Bhairitu]

I am the eternal wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Alex Stanley
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Where the hell were all these right wing Constitutionalists when BushCo was
>> wiping its collective ass with the Constitution for eight fucking years?
>>
>> 
>
> Alex, I've been wondering the very same thing for months now.  These very
> same people who had no problem when Bush was trampling the Constitution and
> the Bill of Rights suddenly are His Majesty's loyal minority in every
> congressional vote, there to try to save the US Constitution from the
> Democrats and Obama.
>
> Add to that the governor of my state who will not relent on accepting
> stimulus money and actually has a fellow Republican senator shouting him
> down.  Hopefuly our legislature will be able to bypass Perry.  And what is
> Perry's stance on why he refuses to sign on to the Stimulus Bill?  Because
> he wants to defend the US Constitution and states rights.  States rights?
> Wasn't that a George Wallace thing?
>
> I wonder if Barry Goldwater is not hiding somewhere in the midst of these
> Republicans?
Now which "Conservatives" are we talking about?  I'm been watching 
"conservatives" fighting "conservatives" for several years now.  We have 
the Rush Limbaugh "conservatives" which really probably aren't 
conservatives at all but just sheep that follow the Pied Piper of New 
York radio (though Rush started out in Sacramento).   Then we have the 
"Constitutional Conservatives" who are mainly the Ron Paul crowd and 
listen to the Pied Piper of Austin Radio: Alex Jones.  Funny thing about 
the "Constitutional Conservatives" is they often sound very liberal get 
calls come in from "conservatives" on the radio show accusing them of 
being liberal.  Well the Constitution is rather a liberal document so if 
that is your foundation then you are faily liberal but that idea makes 
those Christian survivalist cum-libertarian "types", who are fans, heads 
spin like Linda Blair in "The Exorcist." :-D

Now the main concern of many sides is "big government" which is owned 
and operated by "big business."  But tell the libertarians that "big 
business" is the problem and we need to seize and redistribute the 
wealth of the "global elite" and their heads spin like Linda Blair in 
"The Exorcist" too.   Seems they don't want the opportunity taken away 
from them to become filthy rich people and become "global elite" 
assholes themselves.

Sometimes if you hold the earth at arms length you get a good idea of 
what a fucked up place it is.  If you've ever seen weevil infested grain 
or flour then think of the Earth as the flour and the weevils as human 
beings.  Then you have a super real vision of the problem. ;-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[shukra69]

Here is the person who has no truth in him, when caught in lies tells many more 
lies,  accusing someone of having a dishonest approach.
Likewise Vaj who accuses others of ad-hominen arguements and never hesitates to 
make them. 
Shameless liar.Liar and shameless.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> 
> > On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >
> >> You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions  
> >> here.  Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming  
> >> from a psychological problem you have.  Is it too much to ask for  
> >> this courtesy in return?
> >
> > In Judy's case, yes.  That's apparently the only
> > way she wants to deal with legitimate objections--
> > villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation
> > and fake "concern" instead of responding rationally. And then
> > she accuses others of being "distraught."  Which is
> > why I don't deal with her any more...there's no honor
> > amongst thieves, or, it would seem, manipulators and phonies.
> 
> 
> Yes, you're right, these have been common tactics in the past--all  
> part and parcel of her overall dishonest approach. Another fave, and  
> if I'm grokking tidbits in others clippings correctly, is when nailed  
> on something or particularly when some TM dogmatic point she's VERY  
> attached to is rent asunder, rather than addressing the actual  
> intellectual or factual elements of the argument, she'll switch to  
> some unrelated element in the person: they don't understand stand TM  
> (as when they no longer use TM speak), their counseling practice,  
> faulty TM practice, etc. The varieties seem endless, but the pattern  
> is observable and repeated. It's interesting the person who seems so  
> fond of telling people they are guilty of non sequiturs is actually  
> the one who tries to craftily use them herself. Apparently  
> misdirection must be the only way she can respond when arguments stray  
> outside of TB/SCI/TM milieu. Sometimes it's better to just shuddup.
> 
> Of course she could have some strange vitamin deficiency related to  
> shoe leather. ;-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Four Questions Of Value Under The Stars

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan  wrote:
>
> Sounds like a good time for one and all. 

I hope so. What is the point of still
being able to make a decent living during
a recession if you are not able to share
it with others?

> Why not make it international? Post the film 
> sufficiently in advance so global cinematic 
> voyeurs can bring NetFlix tetering to its knees 
> with the sudden global demand for a particular 
> flick (though its on "instant" -- it will only 
> clobber their servers. 

It's an interesting idea. When I am able
to get into Barcelona and buy the projector,
I will let you know when "Don Juan De Marco"
makes its Sitges debut.

It's really a lovely film, a thing of beauty.

It falls into the category ( for me ) of 
Writer/Directors' First Films. There is a 
certain magic there. 

It's their One Shot At Fame. Given the vaga-
ries of fame and Hollywood, anyone who gets
a shot at bringing their first strong vision
to the screen *knows going into it* that it
may be their *last* shot. 

So they tend to "shoot their wad." Some of
them, sadly, never do anything again as good
as that "first shot." Jeremy Leven, sadly,
falls into that category. But with "Don Juan,"
he can die easy, knowing that he created a 
fable for the ages, something that he will
be "remembered for." 

There are more good lines per square inch in
"Don Juan De Marco" than in any twenty films
since. Jeremy ( who I got to meet in Paris
because we shared the same barber ) poured
his heart and soul into this film, and it
shows. It is arguably the most romantic
film ever made.

> You could Skype your patio so participants from 
> afar could converse. With some 2-way video to make 
> it a bit more intimate. And of course real time chat. 

I shall actually look into this. Curtis has
been bugging me to get a videocam so that we
can Skype real-time, and I've been lazy and
have never gotten around to it. But maybe this
is a good excuse to Go For It.  :-)

> The time difference might be a bummer. 

Not from my side. In Summer, I have to wait
until 10:00 PM to start to show any outdoor
film here. That would still be during "viewing
time" for you guys in the U.S. Europeans could
tune in as they saw fit. Saner people could
ignore the whole exercise.  :-)

> But then that gives you an excuse to cinematically 
> party at all hours. And global participants could 
> be encouraged to wire you a case of fine wines from 
> the local region. 

Always appreciated.  :-)

> The UT International Film Festival, Revival and 
> Continuous Party. 

Now THAT is a legacy I could live with. :-)
Forget all this "enlightenment" stuff. 

> And get the stars, writers and directors involved. 
> Invite Liv when you show Stealing Beauty. And Eva 
> Greene -- well just invite her always.

If I were to invite a Liv, it would probably
be Liv Ullmann. 

Eva Green, on the other hand...  :-)

> "The sun never sets on a good flick."
> 
> Can we start with Godard? :)

I could probably endure "Alphaville."  :-)

Wait'll I get into the Robert Rodriguez Film
Festival. That's where I really shine as a 
reviewer and a rapper.  :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Smooth Jazz 94.7 LA -The Wave

[Bhairitu]

"Smooth Jazz" is like Valium.  The term of course is the opposite of 
"hard jazz" which many jazz musicians played.  One of the "kings" of 
"Smooth Jazz" is Kenny G who back in the '70's used to sneak into the 
DoubleTree Inn in Renton (near Seattle) as a high school kid to listen 
to the jazz trio I played in.

Much of this style of music started out as "fusion jazz" back in the 
70's with Creed Taylor, Deodato, etc. who did a commercialized version 
of jazz with some R&B influence.  Prior to that if you had sprung the 
13th, 11th and sharp 9th chords sprinkled throughout the "smooth jazz" 
of today you would have been accused of playing "dischords" to which the 
witty musician would usually reply "which chord?  Dis chord or dat chord?"

BTW, Valium is based on the chemical structure of valerian root or 
jatamansi (the Indian variety). 

Arhata Osho wrote:
>   
>   
> I listen to my favorite radio station in Los Angeles on my computer while I 
> work - 
> try it - less the commercials, it's great! Reduces any stress!
> Arhata
> Smooth Jazz, 94.7 The WAVE, KTWV-FM, Los Angeles - HomepageSmooth Jazz, 94.7 
> The WAVE, the Original Smooth Jazz radio station based  in Los Angeles, CA 
> and streaming Smooth Jazz worldwide.
> http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/
>
>
>   
>
>
>   
>   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity  wrote:

> > > And I wish I had never started and my friends never
> > > started.  I wish my friends had never become parusha
> > > or siddhas and lived lives sucking resources from
> > > others. I wish that they didn't take enemas and weird
> > > supplements to cure chronic disease.  
> > > 
> > > School is  not for spiritual development.  Meditate
> > > after school.  Sit in silence after school.  Pray after
> > > school.
> > 
> > You sound like maybe you're a candidate for John Knapp's
> > counseling services, Ruth. I'm serious; that's not snark.
> > You seem genuinely distraught.
> > 
> > He apparently does counseling over the phone, BTW.
> 
> I'm getting a very disingenuous vibe here Judy.  None
> of the issues Ruth mentioned as concerns have anything
> to do with John's practice.

Oh, they certainly do, all the ones you mention, in
fact. I have the impression he more often deals with
people who've been deeply involved with the TMO, but
I'd be very surprised if he doesn't also have clients
who have been deeply involved with people who were
deeply involved, even if they themselves weren't
directly involved with the TMO.

> She mentions she wishes she had never started and
> doesn't tell us why.  Wishes her friends hadn't become
> unable to support themselves and ended up begging money
> from their friends causing the conflicted feelings when
> you care about someone who is shaking you down instead
> of working.  She is upset that some of her friends took
> pseudo scientific advice for chronic diseases and I'm
> guessing that this is because they didn't work.  Then
> she states basically our society's consensus belief
> that specific religions not be taught in schools.
> 
> These are all legitimate reasons to be as you spin
> it "distraught" and I would term it, normally pissed
> off for good reason.

Except for the last, I agree. Did I suggest anywhere
that they weren't legitimate reasons to be distraught?

> The physiological demonetization of people who
> challenge this teaching is a bit of a trend with
> you lately.

Ruth is clearly hurting. How is it "physiological
demonetization" (did you mean "psychological
demonization"?) to make that observation and to
suggest appropriate counseling?

Given what Ruth has been through with her husband
and her friends, it wouldn't be normal for her *not*
to be hurting.

I don't know whether Ruth is having trouble dealing
with her pain. If she isn't, more power to her. But
if she is, counseling would be a very positive,
healthy step.

I'm a veteran of counseling myself. It was pre-TM,
but I know how life can grind you down to the point
where it becomes overwhelming.

Ruth likes John. John has had a lot of experience
with people who are experiencing anger and sadness
that they attribute to their involvement with TM.
Seems to me he'd be the perfect person to counsel
her if she needs it.

Hanging around FFL seems to be exacerbating her
sadness and especially her anger. At any rate,
she's expressing it more and more openly. That's
probably a good thing up to a point, as long as
it doesn't become a matter of further inflaming
a wound instead of allowing it to heal. She isn't
going to get 100% support for her general 
criticisms of TM here, and that has seemed to
make her more angry.

> When I expressed my experience that Maharishi
> ignored his followers, you claimed I have "repressed
> resentment" coloring my thinking.

I said I *thought* you *might* have some *residual*
resentment coloring your thinking (and not just
based on that one comment by any means). But if that's
the case, it would be *perfectly normal*. We've all
got residual emotions floating around coloring our
thinking. The intellect and the emotions often don't
communicate very well.

  Ruth makes a list
> of things how the movement involvement has hurt her
> friendships and you "kindly" advise her to get a check
> up from the neck up.

If she's in serious pain, yes. I certainly could be
wrong, but it sounds to me as though she is. (But
it wouldn't be from the neck up, it would be from the
heart up.)

> Do you really need to resort to this tactic?  You
> have plenty of legitimate challenges to both of our
> POVs here.  How about knocking off the sophist's
> trick of making is seem as if the person who has
> issues with the teaching are caused by a physiological
> condition instead of dealing with the issues brought up.

Issues with the teaching are one thing. As you note,
I don't shy away from discussing issues. But negative
emotions resulting from loss are very real; it doesn't
*matter* how valid the person's issues with the teaching
are.

I don't know about you, but I don't have to agree with
Ruth (or you) on the intellectual issues to empathize
with your negative emotions.

> You have plenty of emotion that you exp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the 
> > > > teraining of hte kids and the teachers.  
> > > 
> > > PLEASE stop saying this.
> > 
> > Funny, I don't recall Lawson having said anything
> > before that could be interpreted to mean he thinks
> > TM is paying.
> > 
> > In fact, in a recent post, he said, "The entire
> > thing is funded by the DLF."
> 
> This was all based on his misunderstanding of my
> statement that our schools are underfunded. I didn't
> know why he went off on this tangent in the first
> place.

I'd guess he meant the program isn't underfunded, 
that the schools aren't going to have to pay
anything, so it isn't going to take anything away
from the schools' own funding. He thought you were
saying the schools were already underfunded so they
couldn't afford to fund TM.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus! Jerry Seinfeld a Practicing Hindu?!

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , grate.swan 
wrote:
>
> I had no idea! Much less Sheryl Crow, Howard Stern, Eddie Vedder,
Laura Dern, Moby and all.  All practicing Hindus! (Not that there is
anything wrong with that.) Who knew!
>


lol...good one.

OffWorld

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[Vaj]

On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:43 PM, shukra69 wrote:

Here is the person who has no truth in him, when caught in lies  
tells many more lies,  accusing someone of having a dishonest  
approach.
Likewise Vaj who accuses others of ad-hominen arguements and never  
hesitates to make them.

Shameless liar.Liar and shameless.



TB Shukra who still doesn't know the difference from being accused of  
lies by dishonest people, the ignorant or the personality disordered  
and actual lies. It's a distinction of convenience we see a lot here.  
Thanks for the demonstration. ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Smooth Jazz 94.7 LA -The Wave

[Arhata Osho]

Interesting!
Love Kenny G
Musical Starstreams is good 'valium' too I alternate between the two...and 
a little 
of this and that including some rap













"Smooth Jazz" is like Valium.  The term of course is the opposite 
of 

"hard jazz" which many jazz musicians played.  One of the "kings" of 

"Smooth Jazz" is Kenny G who back in the '70's used to sneak into the 

DoubleTree Inn in Renton (near Seattle) as a high school kid to listen 

to the jazz trio I played in.



Much of this style of music started out as "fusion jazz" back in the 

70's with Creed Taylor, Deodato, etc. who did a commercialized version 

of jazz with some R&B influence.  Prior to that if you had sprung the 

13th, 11th and sharp 9th chords sprinkled throughout the "smooth jazz" 

of today you would have been accused of playing "dischords" to which the 

witty musician would usually reply "which chord?  Dis chord or dat chord?"



BTW, Valium is based on the chemical structure of valerian root or 

jatamansi (the Indian variety). 



Arhata Osho wrote:

>   

>   

> I listen to my favorite radio station in Los Angeles on my computer while I 
> work - 

> try it - less the commercials, it's great! Reduces any stress!

> Arhata

> Smooth Jazz, 94.7 The WAVE, KTWV-FM, Los Angeles - HomepageSmooth Jazz, 94.7 
> The WAVE, the Original Smooth Jazz radio station based  in Los Angeles, CA 
> and streaming Smooth Jazz worldwide.

> http://www.freedomo fspeech.netfirms .com/

>

>

>   

>

>

>   

>   




 

  




 

















  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Smedley Butler, War is a racket

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , I am the eternal
 wrote:
>
> http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

>
> "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and
during that
> period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big
Business,
> for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a
gangster for
> capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for
American
> oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for
the
> National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping
of
> half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall
Street. I
> helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown
> Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for
the
> American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the
> American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it
that
> Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might
have
> given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his
racket
> in three districts. I operated on three continents."
>
> - Maj.Gen.Smedley Butler, 1935, awarded twice the Congressional Medal
of
> Honor>


Maj.Gen.Smedley Butler - like some indeciferable kôan - was known as
"The Fighting Quaker".

The Peace Testimony of the Quakers: "We utterly deny all outward wars
and strife and fightings with outward weapons, for any end or under any
pretence whatsoever. And this is our testimony to the whole world."

>From "A Declaration to Charles II," 1661. Full text at:
http://www.quaker.org/peaceweb/pdecla07.html



OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:

> Judy's ENTIRE position can be summed up in 
> her own words below:
> 
> > Trusting your experience is fine. Having an aha
> > moment in which you know you don't believe is fine.
> > 
> > What's *not* fine, IMHO, is including in that aha
> > moment of knowledge about your own lack of belief
> > the "knowledge" that other people are "feeding off 
> > of each other's hysteria."
> > 
> > That's just a way to make yourself feel better 
> > about your inability to have good results.

Actually, if it summed up my ENTIRE position, I
wouldn't have gone on to write what Barry carefully
snipped (because if he hadn't snipped it, what he
went on to say wouldn't have made any sense).

Here's the rest of what I said:

-
We don't know why some people get results and some
don't. But that some people don't get results does
*not* automatically mean that all the others aren't
really getting results either.

Sometimes life just ain't fair. Sometimes it's really,
really complicated and ambiguous and contradictory,
and we can't sort it out into neat little piles.
Sometimes it's more like quantum mechanics than
Newtonian mechanics. (That's an *analogy*, not an
equivalence.) And we're stuck with it.

Unlike you, BTW, I grew up without faith. Sometimes
I think it would be nice to have faith, but it doesn't
seem to be anything I'm able to cultivate. So I go by
my own experience and by what makes sense to my
intellect.

Despite my lack of experience of faith, though, I
don't look at those who do have it and assume they're
just hysterical. Rather, I assume they are capable of
having an experience for which, for whatever reason,
I'm not wired. There are enough other things in my
life that give me satisfaction that I don't miss it.
-

The interesting thing is that in any other context,
Barry would have been dumping on the person who
claimed that because they weren't having a
particular set of experiences, therefore nobody
else was either.

I mean, just *imagine* his righteous wrath if someone
had claimed that because they didn't see Rama
levitating, it meant that those who did were only 
"feeding off each other's hysteria."

Barry's got nuthin' on the right-wingers as far as
hypocrisy is concerned.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality

[I am the eternal]

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> I am the eternal wrote:
>

I am lumping all of the Republican together because by and large suddenly
they are a single congressional voting block, all voting to save our
Constitution from "big government" and Governor Perry, from Federalism.
Where the Hell were all of these folks while GWBush enlarged the government
with the Patriot Act, torture, extraordinary extradition and spend, spend,
spend?  Indeed where was Governor Perry's voice when GWBush was doing this?
How come he suddenly found his voice and his soap box (well, it has to do
with upcoming elections where of all things, he hopes to sell himself to the
people of Texas as a conservative savior of our federal constitution and the
soverign Republic ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H State of Texas).  Suddenly the Republicans
have found their voice.  It is to save the Republic from federalism or
worse, socialism.

I don't listen to the talk shows.  I watch Rachel Maddow on TV half because
she's cute and half because she's funny.  Outside of that, I only watch
snippets of CSPAN and I read the bills, see who votes for and against them,
then carefully read the laws.   What I see on CSPAN is very, very funny.
The Republicans are born again with, I suspect, a self-defeating agenda.  I
don't think down the road that saying they voted against this or that
stimulus or budget is going to get them anywhere.  Already real estate on
the west coast is starting to show signs of life, with houses at fire sales
of 41% off.  Real Estate agents on the west coast are busy as they've ever
been.  Investors are going back into real estate and they're looking at
either big bargains or prices of the new reality in housing.  I don't see
once we're out of this mess that saying you voted against this is going to
get you points.

OTOH, if the Federal Reserve doesn't quickly suck liquidity out of the
economy around the end of the year, we could face hyperinflation of the
scale of Germany or Italy before WWII and have a double dip recession as we
saw in the 1980s.  Now if the Federal Reserve could manage to control the
period of hyperinflation, we'd have it made:  we could minimize our national
debt by inflating the dollar as we have several times before.

[FairfieldLife] Twenty things I still do that I did as a True Believer

[Duveyoung]

Things I still do that I did as a True Believer:

(in no particular order)

1.  I still honor sleep as a spiritual technique.  I am very hesitant to wake 
someone up, and thus, by my figuring, artificially end their "healing."  
Maharishi told us at TTC to stay in bed "until driven from it."

2.  Next to my bed, I have a book of Ramana that has his photo on the cover.  
If anything lands on top of the photo, it must be removed lest I be dishonoring 
(weakening the value of) this symbol of the knowledge set he taught me.  I 
treat the photo as if he's alive, ya see?  Sigh

3.  I say, "Jai Guru Dev" whenever I kill a bug.  I care about their "souls."  
I still think of animals as having humans trapped inside of them.

4.  I think all religious rites are or were once truly spiritual activities in 
that they deal with the emotions of worship -- which are subtle, and thereby, 
one practices living life at that level.

5.  I still do not honor the psychological professions, and I see them as 
mostly bullshit in that the world has never been served by them teaching us how 
to raise kids that are not chauvenists, war mongers, bullies, etc.  Where's 
their united voice decrying today's cruel and abusive educational practices?  
If they can't stand up for child rearing standards and be in the face of 
educational leaders about their disconnects, forgeddaboutdit.

6.  I still have fond memories of Maharishi.  I still love the fucker's giggle.

7.  I still long for a one-method-cures-all panacea for the ills of the world.

8.  I still haven't stopped talking about enlightenment and still think it is a 
possibility for many folks. (But now, not for me in this life.)

9.  I still think ALL CHRISTIANS are dim-witted twerps who'd willingly ruin a 
life of another -- natch, for Christ, donchaknow.

10.  I still think it's worthwhile for some folks (mostly the young and/or the 
nearly enlightened) to do a spiritual practice.

11.  I believe a life that doesn't consider the impact of diet, rest, and 
morals is a life heading over a cliff.

12.  I still believe in the Absolute as the only reality.  Silence is golden.

13.  I think the tender feeling level must be in the foreground of any 
lifestyle.  The golden rule is truly the goldiest of the rules.

14.  I still close my eyes to do my deepest thinking.

15.  I'm still comfortable using Hindu concepts to grasp human psychology.  The 
pantheon of gods are metaphors for our psyche's dynamics.

16.  I still believe that our leaders can only fuck up as much as we 
individuals are fucked up, and that the world will not change if we do not 
change.

17.  I still believe that being a true believer is not necessarily a blinkered 
life, and if I meet a true believer, I honor that commitment in them even if 
they are otherwise wrong headed. I'm kind to Mormons and LDSers when they 
knock. I love to pick their brains to see if they are on top of their minds and 
have clarity about the normal human foibles of denial, spin, rationalization, 
glittering generalities, etc.  Love to see what they think is a fair way to 
debate about spiritual notions.  I bow slightly when I make eye contact with 
priests, nuns, etc.

18.  I still think 2012 might possibly be a significant milestone of history.

19.  I still distrust media to "get it" about anything spiritual.  (In the Merv 
era, Newsweek wrote about meditators shouting their mantras aloud to quell the 
stresses of the world.)

20.  I still think atheists are folks who dismiss religious issues way too 
off-handedly.  I think atheists are as spiritual as anyone in that they're 
heading towards a clarity about silence by their "disbelieving ways" as much as 
any religious person is doing so via prayer, hymns, etc.

And so much more . . .

Edg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
> > You have plenty of emotion that you express in your
> > positions here. Neither of us are summing up your
> > objections as stemming from a psychological problem
> > you have.  Is it too much to ask for this courtesy
> > in return?
> 
> In Judy's case, yes.  That's apparently the only
> way she wants to deal with legitimate objections--
> villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation
> and fake "concern" instead of responding rationally.

Note how carefully Sal snipped what Curtis had said
just above what she quoted:

"You have plenty of legitimate challenges to both of our
POVs here."

Amazing.

And of course she bought Curtis's misunderstanding--
that I was "summing up [their] objections as stemming
from a psychological problem [they] have"--hook, line,
and sinker. Never suggested that about either of them.

> Which is why I don't deal with her any more...there's
> no honor amongst thieves, or, it would seem,
> manipulators and phonies.

The reason Sal doesn't deal with me any more is that
she isn't up to it. If I were her, I wouldn't be
accusing others of lacking honor and being
manipulators and phonies.

[FairfieldLife] http://data.gov/ launches in late May

[I am the eternal]

Coming to a PC near your, http://data.gov/ , the feed of government
documents Our Savior promised us.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the 
> > > teraining of hte kids and the teachers.  
> > 
> > PLEASE stop saying this.
> 
> Funny, I don't recall Lawson having said anything
> before that could be interpreted to mean he thinks
> TM is paying.

Eh, the TMO is a non-profit. So is the DLF.  The TMO gets
funds from the DLF to teach kids under the TM-quiet time thing.

One no-profit supporting another non-profit in a venture that is
at the core of both of their charters.

Seems hardly worth responding to if I confuse one with the other
in casual conversation.

"the DLF pays for the TMO to do the action." "The TMO pays for the 
action." No diff at this level, at least to me.

L

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Except its not underfunded. The TMO takes care of the 
> > > > teraining of hte kids and the teachers.  
> > > 
> > > PLEASE stop saying this.
> > 
> > Funny, I don't recall Lawson having said anything
> > before that could be interpreted to mean he thinks
> > TM is paying.
> > 
> > In fact, in a recent post, he said, "The entire
> > thing is funded by the DLF."
> 
> This was all based on his misunderstanding of my statement that our schools 
> are underfunded. I didn't know why he went off on this tangent in the first 
> place.
> 
>


Shrug. Underfunding in one program doesn't preculde getting funding to
do something else. My point was that the schools are NOT underfunded 
concernign the TM-quiet time program.


L.

[FairfieldLife] The Agamas

[Vaj]

AGAMAS

H.H. Shri Kumarswamiji

The Agamas are of three kinds. The Shivagamas, the Shaktyagamas and  
the Vaishnavagamas according as they treat of the deity Shiva, Shakti  
and Vishnu as the object of worship. The Agamas are also called  
Tantras and there is practically no difference between the two names  
specially between the Agamas of the Shiva and Shakti schools, both of  
them are believed to have been delivered by Shiva to his consort- 
Parvati. Generally the Shaivagamas are called Agamas and Shaktyagamas  
are called Tantras. Yet Shaivagamas have an independent status and  
their origin is as old as three thousand years. The Shivagamas are 28  
in number. But all of them are not available, few of them are  
available. Besides 28 principal Shivagamas there are many secondary  
Agamas which intend to explain the subject matter of the principal  
Agamas.


In connection with the Agamas two important questions arise - the age  
of the Agamas and the contents of the Agamas. As regards the first  
question, the age of the Agamas can well be determined from the  
reference made to them in various works. Harita, a writer of Smriti  
and Kalidas the world famous sanskrit poet refer to the Shivagamas and  
both of them lived in the first century of the Christian era. Various  
Puranas namely Skanda Purana, Sutasamhita, Brahmagita and Shiva Purana  
mention the Agamas. In Kurma Purana a reference is made to the fact  
that Shri Krishna was taught Agamic Philosophy by Upamanyu. In the  
Shanti Parva and Drona Parva of Mahabharata, reference has been made  
to the Shivagamas. In Maitrayana Upanishad Agamic literature is  
referred to twice. The Swetashwetopanishad is certainly an Agamic  
Upanishad later followed by other Agamic Upanishads like Atharva  
Shiras and Kaivalya. From all this foregoing account it can well be  
concluded that the Agamas have their origin in times almost coeval  
with the Aranyakas.


The Aranyakas which form part and parcel of the Vedas and the Agamas  
confront each other as two independent modes of thought. This fact is  
brought into bold belief, when we take into consideration the contents  
of the Vedic religion and the contents of the Agamic religion.


1. The Vedic religion consists in the performance of sacrifices with  
all rites and rituals, while the Agamic religion consists in the  
worship of the deity - Shiva, Shakti and Vishnu.


2. The Vedic deities were the forms of nature and the Vedic religion  
was a system of propitiation of those nature powers. Powers by means  
of sacrifice offered into fire regarded as the mouth of the deities;  
while Agamic deity was personal deity that controlled the forces of  
nature.


3. The oblations in the case of Vedic worship were consumed by the  
deities through their mouth, the fire; while the Agamic deities took  
only the subtle portion of the offerings exhibited to them as Prasad  
or consecrated food.


4. The Vedic religion was polytheistic and the different deities were  
invoked for different purposes because each Vedic deity has a  
different function in the scheme of the universe; while the Agamic  
religion being monotheistic only one deity was worshipped, that had  
all the functions of the universe in his or her hands.


5. The Vedas consist of the Mantras addressed to the different deities  
and recited during the performance of the sacrifices in honour of  
those deities; while the Agamas contain prayers consisting of various  
names of the deity and salutations addressed to the deity.


6. The Vedic Worship consisted of the offering made to Gods, while the  
Agamic worship was personal service rendered to the God, like washing,  
decking and feeding them.


7. The Vedic Gods being the forces of the nature had no physical  
representation, while the Agamic deities were represented by means of  
a visible emblem or image.


8. There is no trace in the hymns of the temple worship, while the  
worship of the idols in temples is purely Agamic. The Vedic religion  
is the fire cult while Agamic religion is the deitic cult.


9. The Vedas kept the door of religion restricted to some people while  
the Agamas kept the door of religion open to all without any  
distinction.


10. The Agamas treat the Yoga Philosophy and Yogic practices which are  
all together absent in the Samhitas or Vedic hymns.


The contents of the Shivagamas are divided into four parts namely  
Charya, Kriya, Yoga and Jnana. The Charya and Kriya parts describe the  
names of worship of Shiva with love and adoration but as the  
discipline of love or Shakti has to be supplemented by some  
psychological discipline in the form of yoga practice, the third part  
of every Agama deals with yoga. The fourth part of the Agama deals  
with jnana but jnana in the sense of exposition of the philosophical  
principles underlying the Agama teaching. The Charyapada represents a  
Marga, the path of the servant following the master. The servantship  
is the dis

[FairfieldLife] The imminent appearance of Maitreya

[nablusoss1008]

Question and answers by Benjamin Creme



Question: How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world?
A. Very imminent indeed.
Q. Will most people feel their own soul on Declaration Day when Maitreya
is speaking?
A. Most people will experience their own souls, even if it is the first
time in their lives. It will be an extraordinary experience for
humanity. They will feel like a child; pure, listening from the heart to
these wonderful words and experiencing a quality of life that they have
forgotten – that goes way back to their childhood when they were
simple, trusting, full of love and happiness.


Q. (1) It was stated in Share International News Release No.88 that in
the very near future a large, bright star, "a star-like luminary of
brilliant power", will appear in the sky visible throughout the
world, night and day. "Around a week later Maitreya will give his
first interview on major US television." I find this statement
somewhat puzzling because the star has now been appearing around the
world for over two months. (1) Does this mean that Maitreya already gave
his first interview around a week after the star first began appearing
around the world? (2) Or does it mean Maitreya will give his first
interview around a week after the appearances of the star have reached
their peak and been seen by enough people?
A. (1) No. (2) Yes, precisely. It would be of little use to mount this
huge project (which it is) if humanity had no time to evaluate and
respond.


Q. Will sightings of the star eventually become numerous enough that it
becomes a top headline in the news worldwide and publicly investigated
by scientists?
A. I do not know what level of response is required but it is obvious
that some public recognition is essential.


Q. First off, I have to say thank you for making this information
available. I'm truly grateful. I'm writing because I think that I saw
the miracle star your Master has described. It was Saturday night and I
was working late. The location was Toluca Lake, California, USA. After I
left the office to go to my car I saw a star that was brighter than any
other that I've seen. It had an orb shape around it. While I was driving
home on the freeway I was following it with my eyes. It seemed to change
its position. Sometimes it was to the left of me and sometimes it was to
the right. Maybe this is because the freeway changed position; I don't
know. It did seem to shift to rather dramatic variables in distance. It
seemed to vanish as soon as I got off the freeway near my neighborhood.
My father thought that it might be Venus. It was exceptionally bright.
Whatever the case may be, that was the brightest heavenly body I've
noticed to date.
A. My Master has confirmed that it was indeed the Star that you followed
along the freeway. It does move about which, of course, Venus does not
except slowly along its own trajectory. Venus is very bright and is
often confused for the Star but Venus is becoming lower and lower on the
horizon and, by 28 March or so, will no longer be visible to us. The
Star is even brighter than Venus, and changes position and colour.


Q. In late February 2009, I was in a city in the Brazilian state of
Minas Gerais. There, I saw a really bright star in the sky. It was
bigger than the other stars. It was a little similar to Venus, but the
colour was completely different. Venus normally is blue and the star was
yellow or golden. Was that the star of Maitreya?
A. Yes, it was the Star.


Q. A thought about the appearance of the star occurred to me: the first
news release regarding the star starts: "Look now for the biggest
miracle of all" It sounds to me that we are told to regularly
look for it, of course on evenings when there are few clouds in the west
(in the case of New Zealand), and by looking for it we are inviting its
appearance. And the more who look the stronger the invitation. Would
this be correct?
A. No, it is not really like that. The Star exists whether we look for
it or not but if people do not look for it they will not necessarily see
it and report it. It is necessary that it receives open public attention
as a miracle – a sign of Maitreya's appearance on US television.
If it does not receive public attention of a certain amount it will not
have served its purpose.


Q. On the evening of 3 March 2009, for at least 30 minutes before the
clouds came, I saw a bright star-like object on the western sky in
Belgium. Could this have been the star?
A. Yes, it was the Star.



http://shareintl.org 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
 
> The reason Sal doesn't deal with me any more is that
> she isn't up to it. If I were her, I wouldn't be
> accusing others of lacking honor and being
> manipulators and phonies.


Sal is a bitter old fool angrily trying to bash everything related to the TMO 
because she intuitively understands that she made her life  mistake stopping 
TM. 

What did you expect, anything honorable from from such a deprived and angry 
soul ?

Re: [FairfieldLife] The imminent appearance of Maitreya

[I am the eternal]

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:57 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:

>  Question and answers by Benjamin Creme
>
>
>
> Question: How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world?
> A. Very imminent indeed.
>

Nabby, how long are you going to carry on this cargo cult?  We were
expecting Maitreya to arrive by Christmas.  I wasn't sure I if I should buy
Christmas presents because Maitreya's arrival was imminent.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The imminent appearance of Maitreya

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> Question and answers by Benjamin Creme
> 
> Question: How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world?
> A. Very imminent indeed.

"In 1982 Creme placed advertisements in newspapers 
around the world saying, 'The Christ is now here.' 
According to Creme the 'Christ,' whom he also called 
'Maitreya,' would announce his existence on world wide 
television broadcasts, and that he would do that within 
several months of the initial newspaper advertisement. 
This created a sensation within some New Age groups, 
and even among some Evangelical Christians; but, when 
the promised television broadcasts of the Maitreya/
Christ failed to occur, most of Creme's followers 
lost interest."

But Nabby hangs in there.

This may help to explain his stance with
regard to Maharishi's "heaven on earth" 
as well.  :-)

It may also offer some comfort to those of 
us whom Nabby has said are going straight
to Hell, do not pass Go, do not collect
$200. Creme has been saying that Maitreya
was going to appear "any day now" since
1972, and he hasn't shown yet.

So, based on that accuracy of prediction 
record, those of us whom Nabby has con-
demned to Hell for our evil ways probably 
have at least 37 more years of good living 
left ahead of us before we have to deal
with the fiery pit.  :-)

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Smedley Butler, War is a racket

[Rick Archer]

>From a friend:
 
Hi Rick
 
For much more on the truly heroic Gen. Butler, I've got a lot more on his
life and revelatory political teachings at
http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/General_Butler_Revelations.html.
Every American should know about this true American hero and his deep
concerns for this country.
 
--timothy
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Smedley Butler, War is a racket

[I am the eternal]

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Rick Archer  wrote:

>  From a friend:
>
>
>
> Hi Rick
>
>
>
> For much more on the truly heroic Gen. Butler, I've got a lot more on his
> life and revelatory political teachings at
> http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/General_Butler_Revelations.html.
> Every American should know about this true American hero and his deep
> concerns for this country.
>
>
>
> --timothy
>
>
>
"In an incident whose history is suppressed today, Gen. Butler was
approached by representatives of the Morgan Bank who wanted him to lead a
fascist military coup d'état against the Roosevelt government in 1932.
Butler refused and went to the press. A Congressional investigation was
eventually suppressed."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Smedley Butler, War is a racket

[Bhairitu]

Rick Archer wrote:
> >From a friend:
>  
> Hi Rick
>  
> For much more on the truly heroic Gen. Butler, I've got a lot more on his
> life and revelatory political teachings at
> http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/General_Butler_Revelations.html.
> Every American should know about this true American hero and his deep
> concerns for this country.
>  
> --timothy
And of course nothing has changed since Butler blew the whistle on the 
corporatists.  They still run the show.  Someday the people will wake 
and take the country back.  Probably unlikely though.

"The corporations should be more afraid of the people than the people 
afraid of the corporations."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality

[Bhairitu]

I am the eternal wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
>   
>> I am the eternal wrote:
>>
>> 
>
> I am lumping all of the Republican together because by and large suddenly
> they are a single congressional voting block, all voting to save our
> Constitution from "big government" and Governor Perry, from Federalism.
> Where the Hell were all of these folks while GWBush enlarged the government
> with the Patriot Act, torture, extraordinary extradition and spend, spend,
> spend?  Indeed where was Governor Perry's voice when GWBush was doing this?
> How come he suddenly found his voice and his soap box (well, it has to do
> with upcoming elections where of all things, he hopes to sell himself to the
> people of Texas as a conservative savior of our federal constitution and the
> soverign Republic ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H State of Texas).  Suddenly the Republicans
> have found their voice.  It is to save the Republic from federalism or
> worse, socialism.
>
>   
The Republicans ARE "big government."  They just put on a different mask 
now that a "Democrat" is President.  They're still fooling the small 
business people into thinking they represent them.  Take that 
constituency away and they'd be about as big as the Green Party.  They 
are the descendants of the people who wanted the Brits to win back in 
1776.  They are trying get the country back for the Royal Family.  They 
are ignorant asses.  Don't let them fool you.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> I am the eternal wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> I am the eternal wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >
> > I am lumping all of the Republican together because by and large suddenly
> > they are a single congressional voting block, all voting to save our
> > Constitution from "big government" and Governor Perry, from Federalism.
> > Where the Hell were all of these folks while GWBush enlarged the government
> > with the Patriot Act, torture, extraordinary extradition and spend, spend,
> > spend?  Indeed where was Governor Perry's voice when GWBush was doing this?
> > How come he suddenly found his voice and his soap box (well, it has to do
> > with upcoming elections where of all things, he hopes to sell himself to the
> > people of Texas as a conservative savior of our federal constitution and the
> > soverign Republic ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H State of Texas).  Suddenly the Republicans
> > have found their voice.  It is to save the Republic from federalism or
> > worse, socialism.
> >
> >   
> The Republicans ARE "big government."  They just put on a different mask 
> now that a "Democrat" is President.  They're still fooling the small 
> business people into thinking they represent them.  Take that 
> constituency away and they'd be about as big as the Green Party.  They 
> are the descendants of the people who wanted the Brits to win back in 
> 1776.  They are trying get the country back for the Royal Family.  They 
> are ignorant asses.  Don't let them fool you.
>
  Do you think the "wingnuts" will reach critical mass like they did in the 
seventeen hundreds or, with their late start, will it be too late?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:43 PM, shukra69 wrote:
> 
> > Here is the person who has no truth in him, when caught
> > in lies tells many more lies,  accusing someone of having
> > a dishonest approach. Likewise Vaj who accuses others of
> > ad-hominen arguements and never hesitates to make them.
> > Shameless liar.Liar and shameless.
> 
> TB Shukra who still doesn't know the difference from
> being accused of lies by dishonest people, the ignorant
> or the personality disordered and actual lies. It's a
> distinction of convenience we see a lot here.

Actually there's a very easy way to tell the difference.

Actual liars are exposed when their lies are documented
(such as emptybill and I and several others here do with
Vaj's lies).

Dishonest people who accuse others of lying simply make
vague, nonspecific general accusations that they cannot
document, as Vaj as done above.

I suspect Shukra has no problem making this distinction.

Re: [FairfieldLife] What happened to Woolworth's?

[Kirk]

Is that true? They should still sell ice cream though cause it was the 
cheapest.

- Original Message - 
From: "shempmcgurk" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:22 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] What happened to Woolworth's?


> Believe it or not, Woolworth's became...
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> 
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> 
> > On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> >
> >> You have plenty of emotion that you express in your
> >> positions here.  Neither of us are summing up your
> >> objections as stemming from a psychological problem
> >> you have.  Is it too much to ask for this courtesy
> >> in return?
> >
> > In Judy's case, yes.  That's apparently the only
> > way she wants to deal with legitimate objections--
> > villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation
> > and fake "concern" instead of responding rationally. And then
> > she accuses others of being "distraught."  Which is
> > why I don't deal with her any more...there's no honor
> > amongst thieves, or, it would seem, manipulators and phonies.

Another way you can tell a real liar is that they eagerly
agree with lies told by others, as Vaj does here with Sal,
and expand on them, as Vaj does below.

They are especially good at snipping inconvenient context,
as Sal did with Curtis's post when she carefully deleted
what he had said to me just before what she quotes:

"You have plenty of legitimate challenges to both of
our POVs here."

Note in Vaj's compendium of lies below, he uses the
tactic I just mentioned, the vague, nonspecific charge
with no documentation:

> Yes, you're right, these have been common tactics in
> the past--all part and parcel of her overall dishonest
> approach. Another fave, and if I'm grokking tidbits in
> others clippings correctly, is when nailed on something
> or particularly when some TM dogmatic point she's VERY  
> attached to is rent asunder, rather than addressing the
> actual intellectual or factual elements of the argument,
> she'll switch to some unrelated element in the person:
> they don't understand stand TM (as when they no longer
> use TM speak), their counseling practice, faulty TM
> practice, etc.

Vaj is well aware that this isn't true. The *fact* is that
while I do make some personal comments, I don't make them
*instead* of legitimate challenges (as Curtis observed).
Vaj thinks it's to his advantage to focus on the personal
comments and pretend I substitute them for substantive
ones. Goodness knows he's been on the receiving end of
many, many substantive challenges from me. Typically he
can't respond to them, of course.

> The varieties seem endless, but the pattern is observable
> and repeated. It's interesting the person who seems so  
> fond of telling people they are guilty of non sequiturs is 
> actually the one who tries to craftily use them herself. 
> Apparently misdirection must be the only way she can
> respond when arguments stray outside of TB/SCI/TM milieu.

More of the same. Just flatly untrue. Again, Vaj's attempt
at misdirection here is obvious.

It's the hypocrisy, stupid.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
 
> In Judy's case, yes.  That's apparently the only
> way she wants to deal with legitimate objections--
> villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation
> and fake "concern" instead of responding rationally. And then
> she accuses others of being "distraught."  Which is
> why I don't deal with her any more...there's no honor
> amongst thieves, or, it would seem, manipulators and phonies.

One more example of the hypocrisy of Sal's
statement: She accuses me of mind-reading
while happily doing it herself.

And of course she'd never accuse *Barry* of
mind-reading when he's attacking me. Just the
latest of innumerable examples:

"Judy and those who believe as she does are
the 'elite.' They were 'evolved' enough to
appreciate the great gifts that Maharishi
sold them and 'capable' of 'having good
results.' Ruth, ignoramus and 'incapable'
as she is, was not.

"THAT is the message that Judy is trying to
convey. Curtis is being easy on the bitch.
I have no such reservations.

"Judy's ENTIRE position is that anyone who does
not agree with her as to 1) what Maharishi
'really meant' when he said things, 2) what
his 'message' really was, 3) what the 'benefit'
of that message was, and 4) pretty much anything
else she has an opinion on is a LOSER. They are
somehow LESS than she is, 'incapable' of seeing
how profound the things she believes are pro-
found 'really' are."

The difference, incidentally, between my "mind-
reading" and Barry's is that mine is done in
accord with what people actually *say*, whereas
Barry simply makes up stuff that he likes the
sound of. None of his "readings" above have
anything to do with what I've said and are very
largely, in fact, *contrary* to what I've said.

Re: [FairfieldLife] What happened to Woolworth's?

[I am the eternal]

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Kirk  wrote:

> Is that true? They should still sell ice cream though cause it was the
> cheapest.
>

Yum.  Woolworth and W.T. Grant.  Use to love to take the bus with Mom from
our country home into the county seat to shop.  Mom used excellent
ingredients but except for certain ethnic dishes she seemed to cook from the
POW cookbook.   So a burger, fries and a Coke from Woolworth's or W.T. Grant
was a real treat.  Then there was a place known as the Crystal which served
Coney Island hot dogs.  Yum.  I'm being taken out to lunch today so I picked
http://www.fondasanmiguel.com/ .  I've never had $20 mole before.  I hope
they have bars on the windows so it's authentic Mexican food.  I can't wait.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The imminent appearance of Maitreya

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > Question and answers by Benjamin Creme
> > 
> > Question: How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world?
> > A. Very imminent indeed.
> 
> "In 1982 Creme placed advertisements in newspapers 
> around the world saying, 'The Christ is now here.' 

Creme was correct, Maitreya arrived in London in 1977.

> According to Creme the 'Christ,' whom he also called 
> 'Maitreya,' would announce his existence on world wide 
> television broadcasts, and that he would do that within 
> several months of the initial newspaper advertisement. 
> This created a sensation within some New Age groups, 
> and even among some Evangelical Christians; but, when 
> the promised television broadcasts of the Maitreya/
> Christ failed to occur, most of Creme's followers 
> lost interest."

1982 for sure not, I joined Purusha that year and would have known about this 
happening. I believe it was 1985 or 1986. Anyway it was a very interesting 
occourance, because who did the first world-wide broadcast via sattelite in 
July 1985, when, according to Benjamin Creme the Crist Himself was to be 
broadcasted to the world ? 
Of course; Maharishi did it; His first Global Conference via satelite.

When this happened, and Benjamin Creme was 100% wrong about the timing of his 
information, it was when I first discovered the junctionpoints of Maharishi and 
Maitreya. 

Maharishi inaugurated the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment in 1975, 2 years 
later Maitreya appeared in London. This explains a lot about the relationship 
of Maitreya and Maharishi. 
The appearance of this great Yogi in the West since 1958 was absolutely 
necessary for Maitreya to be able to, or even wanting to, create a Mahavirupta 
body and settle in London. 

Without Maharishi no Maitreya. 

> But Nabby hangs in there.

Yes indeed :-)

> This may help to explain his stance with
> regard to Maharishi's "heaven on earth" 
> as well.  :-)

You are right. Maharishi created the cirumstances in which "Heaven on Earth" 
was possible to manifest in this age. The historical connotations are numerous. 
John the Baptist comes to mind, one of several.
 
> It may also offer some comfort to those of 
> us whom Nabby has said are going straight
> to Hell

I never said that. I'm afraid your lying-genes are playing a trick on your slow 
mind once again. See below.

, do not pass Go, do not collect
> $200. Creme has been saying that Maitreya
> was going to appear "any day now" since
> 1972, and he hasn't shown yet.

Yes He has. Maitreya is much closer to us now than you can imagine. Many are 
seeing Him every day. On the 28'th of April 2009 Venus will no longer be seen 
from Earth. But the Star will still be seen continously, day and night even 
after this date. Be prepared for this grand event.

> So, based on that accuracy of prediction 
> record, those of us whom Nabby has con-
> demned to Hell for our evil ways

I never condemn anyone. I simply suggest that intense Tamas is a clear 
alternative when dropping the body for the haters of Knowledge.  

Nature has Her ways, and you are a fool to pretend you do not know this.


"Heaven will walk on Earth in this generation"
- Maharishi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality

[Bhairitu]

Nelson wrote:
>   Do you think the "wingnuts" will reach critical mass like they did in the 
> seventeen hundreds or, with their late start, will it be too late?
Thomas Jefferson said we should probably have a revolutions every so 
once in a while to reboot the country.   We are in serious need of 
"rebooting" or wiping the "hard drive" clean and starting over again.  
Maybe installing a different OS this time.  Something a little more up 
to date.

Of course that would disturb the "sheep's" grazing patterns and we can't 
have that.  The "sheep" are afraid they'll lose their jobs if they take 
to the streets.  We need to tell them they'll lose their jobs if they 
don't (and that is actually happening).

[FairfieldLife] Re: The imminent appearance of Maitreya

[Duveyoung]

Nab,

Just to nail this down, are you saying that after Venus goes behind the Sun 
that THEN the whole world -- anyone on Earth with eyes -- will be able to see 
this star in the daytime?

Or, are you saying, as I strongly suspect is the case, that only the 
spiritually privileged -- The Creme of the crop so to speak -- will be able to 
see this star?

Will someone who "can" see the star be able to grab anyone and say, "See, there 
it is!" and the other person will see it too?

If everyone cannot see the star, then that would mean to me that only those 
able to hallucinate will become TBs for this Creme stuff.

And how in the hell did you wrap your mind around "doing Creme" when your 
Purusha program strictly naysays such beliefs and would have kicked you off the 
program if they knew you were giving your loyalty to Creme instead of 100% to 
Maharishi?  

Edg


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > Question and answers by Benjamin Creme
> > > 
> > > Question: How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world?
> > > A. Very imminent indeed.
> > 
> > "In 1982 Creme placed advertisements in newspapers 
> > around the world saying, 'The Christ is now here.' 
> 
> Creme was correct, Maitreya arrived in London in 1977.
> 
> > According to Creme the 'Christ,' whom he also called 
> > 'Maitreya,' would announce his existence on world wide 
> > television broadcasts, and that he would do that within 
> > several months of the initial newspaper advertisement. 
> > This created a sensation within some New Age groups, 
> > and even among some Evangelical Christians; but, when 
> > the promised television broadcasts of the Maitreya/
> > Christ failed to occur, most of Creme's followers 
> > lost interest."
> 
> 1982 for sure not, I joined Purusha that year and would have known about this 
> happening. I believe it was 1985 or 1986. Anyway it was a very interesting 
> occourance, because who did the first world-wide broadcast via sattelite in 
> July 1985, when, according to Benjamin Creme the Crist Himself was to be 
> broadcasted to the world ? 
> Of course; Maharishi did it; His first Global Conference via satelite.
> 
> When this happened, and Benjamin Creme was 100% wrong about the timing of his 
> information, it was when I first discovered the junctionpoints of Maharishi 
> and Maitreya. 
> 
> Maharishi inaugurated the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment in 1975, 2 years 
> later Maitreya appeared in London. This explains a lot about the relationship 
> of Maitreya and Maharishi. 
> The appearance of this great Yogi in the West since 1958 was absolutely 
> necessary for Maitreya to be able to, or even wanting to, create a 
> Mahavirupta body and settle in London. 
> 
> Without Maharishi no Maitreya. 
> 
> > But Nabby hangs in there.
> 
> Yes indeed :-)
> 
> > This may help to explain his stance with
> > regard to Maharishi's "heaven on earth" 
> > as well.  :-)
> 
> You are right. Maharishi created the cirumstances in which "Heaven on Earth" 
> was possible to manifest in this age. The historical connotations are 
> numerous. John the Baptist comes to mind, one of several.
>  
> > It may also offer some comfort to those of 
> > us whom Nabby has said are going straight
> > to Hell
> 
> I never said that. I'm afraid your lying-genes are playing a trick on your 
> slow mind once again. See below.
> 
> , do not pass Go, do not collect
> > $200. Creme has been saying that Maitreya
> > was going to appear "any day now" since
> > 1972, and he hasn't shown yet.
> 
> Yes He has. Maitreya is much closer to us now than you can imagine. Many are 
> seeing Him every day. On the 28'th of April 2009 Venus will no longer be seen 
> from Earth. But the Star will still be seen continously, day and night even 
> after this date. Be prepared for this grand event.
> 
> > So, based on that accuracy of prediction 
> > record, those of us whom Nabby has con-
> > demned to Hell for our evil ways
> 
> I never condemn anyone. I simply suggest that intense Tamas is a clear 
> alternative when dropping the body for the haters of Knowledge.  
> 
> Nature has Her ways, and you are a fool to pretend you do not know this.
> 
> 
> "Heaven will walk on Earth in this generation"
> - Maharishi
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[authfriend]

Just for fun, I'm going to "fisk" this post of Barry's.

I'm going to start with something from the end of his
post, because it's so hilarious:

> Believe something other than what Judy believes,
> and there is something WRONG with you.

Here's a question to ponder: If I thought there
was something WRONG with Ruth because she believes
something other than what I believe, would I
recommend that in order to "fix" it, she seek
counseling from *JOHN KNAPP*??

Barry gets so totally caught up in his elaborate
fantasies that he's incapable of taking a step back
to determine whether what he's saying makes the
tiniest bit of sense.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:

> Judy's ENTIRE position can be summed up in 
> her own words below:

> > Trusting your experience is fine. Having an aha
> > moment in which you know you don't believe is fine.
> > 
> > What's *not* fine, IMHO, is including in that aha
> > moment of knowledge about your own lack of belief
> > the "knowledge" that other people are "feeding off 
> > of each other's hysteria."
> > 
> > That's just a way to make yourself feel better 
> > about your inability to have good results.
> 
> There is a phrase to describe this position. 
> It is called "Blame the victim."

As the rest of my post made clear (which Barry
carefully did not quote because it made nonsense of
his accusations), what I was "blaming" Ruth for is
taking the position (which in any other context Barry
would find an outrage) that if *she* wasn't having
experiences, it must mean that others weren't either
and were just "feeding off of each other's hysteria."
(That's a direct quote from Ruth's post, BTW.)

I explicitly said in the rest of my post that we
*don't know* why some people have good results from
TM and some don't. But here's Barry, making stuff up
out of whole cloth:

> Ruth's "problem" -- her "failure" -- is that 
> she was "incapable of having good results."

I did not say that her *inability* to have good
results was either a "problem" or a "failure." Barry
made that up.

> Whereas Judy was. And as all of the TBs she 
> so egomaniacally seeks to represent supposedly
> were capable of having.

I don't "seek to represent" anybody. And I'm speaking
of only those who have *reported* having good results.

> The issue here is ELITISM, pure and simple.
> Judy and those who believe as she does are
> the "elite." They were "evolved" enough to
> appreciate the great gifts that Maharishi
> sold them and "capable" of "having good 
> results." Ruth, ignoramus and "incapable" 
> as she is, was not.

Made up out of whole cloth. Again, as I said,
we *don't know* why some have good results and
others don't.

(But I always get a chuckle when Barry rants
about "elitism," given that his positions here
are by far the most elitist of anyone on FFL.)

> THAT is the message that Judy is trying to
> convey. Curtis is being easy on the bitch.
> I have no such reservations.
> 
> Judy's ENTIRE position is that anyone who does
> not agree with her as to 1) what Maharishi
> "really meant" when he said things, 2) what 
> his "message" really was, 3) what the "benefit"
> of that message was, and 4) pretty much anything
> else she has an opinion on is a LOSER. They are
> somehow LESS than she is, "incapable" of seeing
> how profound the things she believes are pro-
> found "really" are.

Made up out of whole cloth. I have never, *ever*
taken this position, nor do I believe it.

> Curtis is being *kind* to Judy here, treating
> her as if there is still a human being "in there
> somewhere" that could possibly respond to being
> treated like one. I see no such human being. I
> see only an automaton, one who repeats ( almost
> verbatim, like the uncreative parrot she is )
> The Things She's Been Told Are Truth.

Also made up out of whole cloth. I do sometimes use
TM-speak when it seems to me to clearly express
what I want to get across, but much more often I
use my own words. Barry knows this. He also knows
I have no inhibitions about disagreeing with Things
I've Been Told Are Truth.

> In Judy's defense, I think she really DOES 
> believe that these things ARE Truth. But that's
> because she tends to "settle" for the first ( in
> her mind ) reasonable explanation given to her.

A wonderful example of Barry's incompetent mind-
reading. It took a long time for me to get
comfortable with MMY's explanations, and that only
after considerable experience of TM, a lot of
"outside" reading, and much intellectual reflection.
I thought it was all total nonsense at first.

> The next step, unfortunately, is to attempt to
> put down anyone who DIDN'T settle for the first
> explanation given to them as somehow "defective,"

As noted, this is false. I did not settle for the
first explanation given to me.

Nor do I attempt to put anybody down as "defective."

Just made up out of whole cloth.

> "incapable" of understanding the Great Truths
> that Judy has understood ( because she can parrot
> them verbatim ).

[FairfieldLife] Photos and another review from benefit

[Rick Archer]

  Change
Begins Within 
 
Photos:
<

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/music/ny-concert-photos,0,5874579.photo
gallery>
 

[FairfieldLife] was: Times' glowing review; now: DLF Concert highlights

[mainstream20016]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' 
> > > support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert :
> > > 
> > > http://tiny.cc/LNCXC
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself:
> > 
> > http://tiny.cc/AAMZe
> 
> 
> ...and Reuter's - " McCartney and Starr reunite in NYC for meditation " 
> 
> http://tiny.cc/SDn9Z
>


Thanks to  'Music Fan ', here are songs from last night,  via the NY Times -
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhRWfMfN5U0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXVSbIVZrYM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr87zHjBeKM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08AQY_0cAcc 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ziLU-PPDR8 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wd57k-HqCU

[FairfieldLife] The restoration of thew world

[nablusoss1008]

The Master's article for
Share International magazine, April 2009
The restoration of the world
by the Master –, through Benjamin Creme, 16 March 2009

>From almost every point of view the situation facing men everywhere
grows daily more painful. The economic chaos resulting from years of
unlicensed greed and heartless competition lays waste the honest toil
and aspiration of countless millions. On the whole, the men of money go
blithely on, their treasure intact, while men and women in every country
face joblessness, poverty and fear. More accurate readings of climatic
changes show men how close this planet is to irreversible calamity, and
alarm bells sound loudly on many political fronts, raising to new levels
the factor of stress.

How much more of this tension can humanity bear? For how long will men
accept, mildly, their fate? Desperate men do desperate deeds and already
in their minds, if not yet in their actions, many contemplate
revolution.

Happenings

Behind the scenes, Maitreya watches carefully these happenings, and
gives succour wherever the Law allows. He waits, patiently, for the
build-up of response to the sign of His Emergence, the "star-like
luminary of brilliant power" on which many now gaze in wonder and
even love.

What is desired is some measure of public debate about the significance
or meaning of the Star, thus signifying the emergence of Maitreya, the
World Teacher. The greater and more public the discussion, the greater
does it prepare the way for Maitreya's entry. Soon there will be no
gainsaying. Very soon, Venus will move beyond the sight of men and so
leave the platform of the heavens open to the Star. Then there will be
no doubt that the Star is there for all to see.
If sufficient discussion can be fostered on the various media and
internet it will not be long until men see and hear Maitreya speak. He
will not be so called, that men can judge His ideas rather than His
status.

Crisis

As the economic crisis deepens, a singular reaction is appearing in many
countries: alongside the fear, bravado and growing despair is a new
understanding of the reasons for the crash -- the greed and competitive
spirit at the centre of our systems and, therefore, the need for
sharing. Of themselves, many are awakening to this basic truth and see
sharing as the answer to injustice and war. Thus are many ready for
Maitreya's Call. This realization will grow as the crisis bites
deeper and deeper into the shaky fabric of the outworn forms and
structures that no longer work, can never be made to work for long.

When Maitreya speaks, He will show that this is so, that the world is
ready for the adoption of new and better forms, based on the true needs
of the peoples everywhere. His is the task to focus and strengthen this
growing realization of the oneness and unity of men, of their mutual
dependence and awakening divinity. Thus will Maitreya and humanity work
together for the restoration of this world.

[FairfieldLife] Re: was: Times' glowing review; now: DLF Concert highlights

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
wrote:

> Thanks to  'Music Fan ', here are songs from last night,
> via the NY Times -

Oh, man, super, thank you!

I found one more, Paul singing "Baby You Can Drive My Car":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UduqOkbVB8g



>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhRWfMfN5U0
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXVSbIVZrYM 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr87zHjBeKM 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08AQY_0cAcc 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ziLU-PPDR8 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wd57k-HqCU
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: was: Times' glowing review; now: DLF Concert highlights

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Congrats to all for great publicity surrounding the remaining Beatles' 
> > > > support for TM in the schools. Here's the Times report on the concert :
> > > > 
> > > > http://tiny.cc/LNCXC
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > and this glowing review could have been written by Bobby Roth himself:
> > > 
> > > http://tiny.cc/AAMZe
> > 
> > 
> > ...and Reuter's - " McCartney and Starr reunite in NYC for meditation " 
> > 
> > http://tiny.cc/SDn9Z
> >
> 
> 
> Thanks to  'Music Fan ', here are songs from last night,  via the NY Times -
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhRWfMfN5U0
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXVSbIVZrYM 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr87zHjBeKM 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08AQY_0cAcc 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ziLU-PPDR8 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wd57k-HqCU


Wonderful ! That Paul chose to sing those songs from "HELP" was very 
interesting.

Thank you for posting this !

[FairfieldLife] Re: The restoration of thew world

[do.rflex]

Bananas.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> The Master's article for
> Share International magazine, April 2009
> The restoration of the world
> by the Master –, through Benjamin Creme, 16 March 2009
> 
> From almost every point of view the situation facing men everywhere
> grows daily more painful. The economic chaos resulting from years of
> unlicensed greed and heartless competition lays waste the honest toil
> and aspiration of countless millions. On the whole, the men of money go
> blithely on, their treasure intact, while men and women in every country
> face joblessness, poverty and fear. More accurate readings of climatic
> changes show men how close this planet is to irreversible calamity, and
> alarm bells sound loudly on many political fronts, raising to new levels
> the factor of stress.
> 
> How much more of this tension can humanity bear? For how long will men
> accept, mildly, their fate? Desperate men do desperate deeds and already
> in their minds, if not yet in their actions, many contemplate
> revolution.
> 
> Happenings
> 
> Behind the scenes, Maitreya watches carefully these happenings, and
> gives succour wherever the Law allows. He waits, patiently, for the
> build-up of response to the sign of His Emergence, the "star-like
> luminary of brilliant power" on which many now gaze in wonder and
> even love.
> 
> What is desired is some measure of public debate about the significance
> or meaning of the Star, thus signifying the emergence of Maitreya, the
> World Teacher. The greater and more public the discussion, the greater
> does it prepare the way for Maitreya's entry. Soon there will be no
> gainsaying. Very soon, Venus will move beyond the sight of men and so
> leave the platform of the heavens open to the Star. Then there will be
> no doubt that the Star is there for all to see.
> If sufficient discussion can be fostered on the various media and
> internet it will not be long until men see and hear Maitreya speak. He
> will not be so called, that men can judge His ideas rather than His
> status.
> 
> Crisis
> 
> As the economic crisis deepens, a singular reaction is appearing in many
> countries: alongside the fear, bravado and growing despair is a new
> understanding of the reasons for the crash -- the greed and competitive
> spirit at the centre of our systems and, therefore, the need for
> sharing. Of themselves, many are awakening to this basic truth and see
> sharing as the answer to injustice and war. Thus are many ready for
> Maitreya's Call. This realization will grow as the crisis bites
> deeper and deeper into the shaky fabric of the outworn forms and
> structures that no longer work, can never be made to work for long.
> 
> When Maitreya speaks, He will show that this is so, that the world is
> ready for the adoption of new and better forms, based on the true needs
> of the peoples everywhere. His is the task to focus and strengthen this
> growing realization of the oneness and unity of men, of their mutual
> dependence and awakening divinity. Thus will Maitreya and humanity work
> together for the restoration of this world.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: was: Times' glowing review; now: DLF Concert highlights

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"  
> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks to  'Music Fan ', here are songs from last night,
> > via the NY Times -
> 
> Oh, man, super, thank you!
> 
> I found one more, Paul singing "Baby You Can Drive My Car":
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UduqOkbVB8g

The filming is by mobile-phone and rather deranged, but the sound is 
surprisingly good ! Like Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney is getting better and better 
the older he becomes. Wonderful clip !

Thank you for posting this !


  
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhRWfMfN5U0
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXVSbIVZrYM 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr87zHjBeKM 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08AQY_0cAcc 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ziLU-PPDR8 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wd57k-HqCU
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The restoration of thew world

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> Bananas.

Like the americans say; "whatever floats your boat"
It's nevertheless a reality based on the neverending work of Maharishi.
:-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > The Master's article for
> > Share International magazine, April 2009
> > The restoration of the world
> > by the Master –, through Benjamin Creme, 16 March 2009
> > 
> > From almost every point of view the situation facing men everywhere
> > grows daily more painful. The economic chaos resulting from years of
> > unlicensed greed and heartless competition lays waste the honest toil
> > and aspiration of countless millions. On the whole, the men of money go
> > blithely on, their treasure intact, while men and women in every country
> > face joblessness, poverty and fear. More accurate readings of climatic
> > changes show men how close this planet is to irreversible calamity, and
> > alarm bells sound loudly on many political fronts, raising to new levels
> > the factor of stress.
> > 
> > How much more of this tension can humanity bear? For how long will men
> > accept, mildly, their fate? Desperate men do desperate deeds and already
> > in their minds, if not yet in their actions, many contemplate
> > revolution.
> > 
> > Happenings
> > 
> > Behind the scenes, Maitreya watches carefully these happenings, and
> > gives succour wherever the Law allows. He waits, patiently, for the
> > build-up of response to the sign of His Emergence, the "star-like
> > luminary of brilliant power" on which many now gaze in wonder and
> > even love.
> > 
> > What is desired is some measure of public debate about the significance
> > or meaning of the Star, thus signifying the emergence of Maitreya, the
> > World Teacher. The greater and more public the discussion, the greater
> > does it prepare the way for Maitreya's entry. Soon there will be no
> > gainsaying. Very soon, Venus will move beyond the sight of men and so
> > leave the platform of the heavens open to the Star. Then there will be
> > no doubt that the Star is there for all to see.
> > If sufficient discussion can be fostered on the various media and
> > internet it will not be long until men see and hear Maitreya speak. He
> > will not be so called, that men can judge His ideas rather than His
> > status.
> > 
> > Crisis
> > 
> > As the economic crisis deepens, a singular reaction is appearing in many
> > countries: alongside the fear, bravado and growing despair is a new
> > understanding of the reasons for the crash -- the greed and competitive
> > spirit at the centre of our systems and, therefore, the need for
> > sharing. Of themselves, many are awakening to this basic truth and see
> > sharing as the answer to injustice and war. Thus are many ready for
> > Maitreya's Call. This realization will grow as the crisis bites
> > deeper and deeper into the shaky fabric of the outworn forms and
> > structures that no longer work, can never be made to work for long.
> > 
> > When Maitreya speaks, He will show that this is so, that the world is
> > ready for the adoption of new and better forms, based on the true needs
> > of the peoples everywhere. His is the task to focus and strengthen this
> > growing realization of the oneness and unity of men, of their mutual
> > dependence and awakening divinity. Thus will Maitreya and humanity work
> > together for the restoration of this world.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> Actually, if it summed up my ENTIRE position, I
> wouldn't have gone on to write what Barry carefully
> snipped (because if he hadn't snipped it, what he
> went on to say wouldn't have made any sense).
> 
> Here's the rest of what I said:
> 
> -
> We don't know why some people get results and some
> don't. But that some people don't get results does
> *not* automatically mean that all the others aren't
> really getting results either.
> 
> Sometimes life just ain't fair. Sometimes it's really,
> really complicated and ambiguous and contradictory,
> and we can't sort it out into neat little piles.
> Sometimes it's more like quantum mechanics than
> Newtonian mechanics. (That's an *analogy*, not an
> equivalence.) And we're stuck with it.
> 
> Unlike you, BTW, I grew up without faith. Sometimes
> I think it would be nice to have faith, but it doesn't
> seem to be anything I'm able to cultivate. So I go by
> my own experience and by what makes sense to my
> intellect.
> 
> Despite my lack of experience of faith, though, I
> don't look at those who do have it and assume they're
> just hysterical. Rather, I assume they are capable of
> having an experience for which, for whatever reason,
> I'm not wired. There are enough other things in my
> life that give me satisfaction that I don't miss it.

Judy, When I read your post to Ruth I immediately recognized your intention to 
reach out to her out as one human being to another in the spirit of compassion. 
You even shared something personal about yourself, about not being wired to 
have "faith" and having made peace with your inability to cultivate it. It's 
amazing how tone deaf Curtis, Barry and Sal were to the genuine concern you had 
for Ruth. Their collective knee-jerk response was unwarranted. One would hope 
they know it is possible to disagree with someone, like them and still have 
empathy for them.

I had a similar experience with Ruth. She expressed her hurt and anger about TM 
and the difficulty she has with friends and family because of TM. I responded 
with empathy. I believe it's natural for human beings, unless they are busy 
fighting by their own demons, to respond to someone's pain with empathy. 
Everyone has emotional trials to work through and ultimately, we're all in it 
together. This was my interaction with Ruth a few months ago. 

Message #203622
Re: Hey, Rick, you might not like this post

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity  wrote:
> >
> > Yes! That is what I have said from day one. TM has nothing to do
> > with love and kindness. And apparently even perverts can be
> > enlightened.
> >
> > I harbor resentment to the TMO. Family and friends who became part of
> > the cult treat me like shit and they don't even know that they do.
> > And I walk on eggshells.
>
> Ruth, I don't judge anyone for stopping TM. It's a personal decision.
> TM "works for me" may not mean anything to you and you can challenge
> me intellectually about it all you want. Regardless, I will continue
> to like you because I respect your honesty. I don't agree that TM has
> nothing to do with love and kindness. I know many loving people who
> practice TM. I have no idea if they were that way before they started
> TM and I don't think it matters. Sorry about the eggshells.
>
Thanks Raunchy. I appreciate that you can say TM working for you
might not mean anything to me.

The eggshells are more like broken glass.

Wax Wings and Eggshells

Tightrope taut
Toe trip slight
Falter not
Fear take flight

Icaris tested
Blistering sun
Wax wings bested
By too much fun

Falling to sea
Shattered by love
Fearless was he
White wingèd dove

Freedom bound
Storm about
Courage sound
Without a doubt

Fair-weather friends
Eggshells hollow
Worship ends
And dreams lay fallow

Harvest now
Unsung deeds
Unearthed by plow
And God's kind seeds

raunchydog

Re: [FairfieldLife] The imminent appearance of Maitreya

[Peter]

Oh, please!! Its been imminent for the past 26 years! Mr. Creme needs a new 
timepiece. 

--- On Sun, 4/5/09, nablusoss1008  wrote:
From: nablusoss1008 
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The imminent appearance of Maitreya
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 1:57 PM














Question and answers by Benjamin Creme
 
Question: How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world?
A. Very imminent indeed.
Q. Will most people feel their own soul on Declaration Day when Maitreya is 
speaking?
A. Most people will experience their own souls, even if it is the first time in 
their lives. It will be an extraordinary experience for humanity. They will 
feel like a child; pure, listening from the heart to these wonderful words and 
experiencing a quality of life that they have forgotten – that goes way back to 
their childhood when they were simple, trusting, full of love and happiness.

Q. (1) It was stated in Share International News Release No.88 that in the very 
near future a large, bright star, "a star-like luminary of brilliant power", 
will appear in the sky visible throughout the world, night and day. "Around a 
week later Maitreya will give his first interview on major US television." I 
find this statement somewhat puzzling because the star has now been appearing 
around the world for over two months. (1) Does this mean that Maitreya already 
gave his first interview around a week after the star first began appearing 
around the world? (2) Or does it mean Maitreya will give his first interview 
around a week after the appearances of the star have reached their peak and 
been seen by enough people? 
A. (1) No. (2) Yes, precisely. It would be of little use to mount this huge 
project (which it is) if humanity had no time to evaluate and respond.

Q. Will sightings of the star eventually become numerous enough that it becomes 
a top headline in the news worldwide and publicly investigated by scientists? 
A. I do not know what level of response is required but it is obvious that some 
public recognition is essential.

Q. First off, I have to say thank you for making this information available. 
I'm truly grateful. I'm writing because I think that I saw the miracle star 
your Master has described. It was Saturday night and I was working late. The 
location was Toluca Lake, California, USA. After I left the office to go to my 
car I saw a star that was brighter than any other that I've seen. It had an orb 
shape around it. While I was driving home on the freeway I was following it 
with my eyes. It seemed to change its position. Sometimes it was to the left of 
me and sometimes it was to the right. Maybe this is because the freeway changed 
position; I don't know. It did seem to shift to rather dramatic variables in 
distance. It seemed to vanish as soon as I got off the freeway near my 
neighborhood. My father thought that it might be Venus. It was exceptionally 
bright. Whatever the case may be, that was the brightest heavenly body I've 
noticed to date. 
A. My Master has confirmed that it was indeed the Star that you followed along 
the freeway. It does move about which, of course, Venus does not except slowly 
along its own trajectory. Venus is very bright and is often confused for the 
Star but Venus is becoming lower and lower on the horizon and, by 28 March or 
so, will no longer be visible to us. The Star is even brighter than Venus, and 
changes position and colour.

Q. In late February 2009, I was in a city in the Brazilian state of Minas 
Gerais. There, I saw a really bright star in the sky. It was bigger than the 
other stars. It was a little similar to Venus, but the colour was completely 
different. Venus normally is blue and the star was yellow or golden. Was that 
the star of Maitreya? 
A. Yes, it was the Star.

Q. A thought about the appearance of the star occurred to me: the first news 
release regarding the star starts: "Look now for the biggest miracle of 
all" It sounds to me that we are told to regularly look for it, of course 
on evenings when there are few clouds in the west (in the case of New Zealand), 
and by looking for it we are inviting its appearance. And the more who look the 
stronger the invitation. Would this be correct?
A. No, it is not really like that. The Star exists whether we look for it or 
not but if people do not look for it they will not necessarily see it and 
report it. It is necessary that it receives open public attention as a miracle 
– a sign of Maitreya's appearance on US television. If it does not receive 
public attention of a certain amount it will not have served its purpose.

Q. On the evening of 3 March 2009, for at least 30 minutes before the clouds 
came, I saw a bright star-like object on the western sky in Belgium. Could this 
have been the star? 
A. Yes, it was the Star.
 
http://shareintl.org

















 




  

[FairfieldLife] Re: The imminent appearance of Maitreya

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
>
> Nab,
> 
> Just to nail this down, are you saying that after Venus goes behind the Sun 
> that THEN the whole world -- anyone on Earth with eyes -- will be able to see 
> this star in the daytime?

Yes.

> Or, are you saying, as I strongly suspect is the case, that only the 
> spiritually privileged -- The Creme of the crop so to speak -- will be able 
> to see this star?

No, everyone, absolutely everyone, will see the star.
 
Already the astro-physics community are on their tip-toes as they have 
witnessed this "miracle" for several months already. But noone wants to be the 
first to break this news, probably out of fear.


> 
> Will someone who "can" see the star be able to grab anyone and say, "See, 
> there it is!" and the other person will see it too?

Yes, certainly.

 
> If everyone cannot see the star, then that would mean to me that only those 
> able to hallucinate will become TBs for this Creme stuff.

This is not "Creme stuff". This is the fruitation of many thousands of years of 
grooming the world consciousness into being able to enjoy this golden age of 
Enlightenment. Maharishi, Guru Dev and countless other Masters, along with the 
growth of consciousness of the world population, maid this happen. 

Because Maharishi did what He did for this generation, Maitreya is able to step 
forward. The Star is simply a sign that Maitreya is here, now.

> 
> And how in the hell did you wrap your mind around "doing Creme" when your 
> Purusha program strictly naysays such beliefs and would have kicked you off 
> the program if they knew you were giving your loyalty to Creme instead of 
> 100% to Maharishi?  

You do not really know the Movement outside of the US very well do you ? 

There are no contradictions between Theosophy, Mr. Creme and Maharishi 
whatsoever.

When I first arrived in Vlodrop one Dutch fellow had put two pages of "Share 
International News" on the message board. When I asked him what this was all 
about he said; "It's what Maharishi already said".
Noone minded and the SI article stayed on that board for several weeks.

Sweet fellow by the way, he is a painter with an interest in flowers enjoying a 
huge success in Holland these days.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Warning! Vaj has played you to the hilt in an intellectual scam

[pranamoocher]

I have it on good source that Sal is really a college guy posing as a
bitter woman.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:
>
> > The reason Sal doesn't deal with me any more is that
> > she isn't up to it. If I were her, I wouldn't be
> > accusing others of lacking honor and being
> > manipulators and phonies.
>
>
> Sal is a bitter old fool angrily trying to bash everything related to
the TMO because she intuitively understands that she made her life 
mistake stopping TM.
>
> What did you expect, anything honorable from from such a deprived and
angry soul ?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: was: Times' glowing review; now: DLF Concert highlights

[sparaig]

A whole slew of articles and youtube videos on about 10 pages:

http://www.examiner.com/x-2082-Beatles-Examiner~y2009m4d3-Paul-Ringo-Donovan-and-Mike-Love-promote-TM-at-press-conference

http://tinyurl.com/dlwcy2

[FairfieldLife] Re: The imminent appearance of Maitreya

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  wrote:
>
> Oh, please!! Its been imminent for the past 26 years! Mr. Creme needs a new 
> timepiece. 

And you my friend needs a checking.

http://shareintl.org

[FairfieldLife] Re: was: Times' glowing review; now: DLF Concert highlights

[authfriend]

Gee, that's quite a resource, Lawson.

Here's an AP video with some professionally filmed
short clips from the concert, much easier on the eyes
than the cellphone videos:

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/ynews;_ylt=AtytUP0of15I3Zx_g7b79.UnHL8C;_ylu=X3oDMTFhN2I1NmMzBHBvcwMzBHNlYwN5bl9yXzNzbG90X3ZpZGVvBHNsawN2aWQtZWQtbGluaw--?ch=4226715&cl=12830781&lang=en

http://tinyurl.com/dakdk5



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> A whole slew of articles and youtube videos on about 10 pages:
> 
> http://www.examiner.com/x-2082-Beatles-Examiner~y2009m4d3-Paul-Ringo-Donovan-and-Mike-Love-promote-TM-at-press-conference
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/dlwcy2
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The imminent appearance of Maitreya

[Peter]

--- On Sun, 4/5/09, nablusoss1008  wrote:

> From: nablusoss1008 
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The imminent appearance of Maitreya
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 6:45 PM
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
>  wrote:
> >
> > Oh, please!! Its been imminent for the past 26 years!
> Mr. Creme needs a new timepiece. 
> 
> And you my friend needs a checking.
> 
> http://shareintl.org


Ha ha! Nabs, I would love it if a master such as Maitreya is described made a 
global appearance. But, but, but. off to my checking! It is easy? Hmmm?



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