[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maitreya and other well-known figures > This page sheds some light into the relationship between Maitreya and > some well-known figures such as Sai Baba, the Buddha, Krishna and > Krishnamurti. This information is excerpted from the books by > Benjamin Creme. > > > > Maitreya & Sai Baba > Sai Baba is a teacher or guru in south India with an enormous > following. Hundreds of thousands, perhaps one or two million people > from all over the world would claim to be his devotees. These > Followers see him as God, the creator of the universe. He is a cosmic > avatar. Sai Baba and Maitreya both embody the same energy--what we > call the Christ principle, the energy of Love --- Sai Baba at the > cosmic level, Maitreya at the planetary level. > > The relation of Sai Baba to the Christ: The Christ is a planetary > avatar, Sai Baba is a cosmic avatar. He is a Spiritual Regent, sent > into the world by the Lord of the World, Sanat Kumara, on Shamballa. > A regent "stands in" for the king. Similarly, a Spiritual > Regent "stands in" for God, for the Logos, Whose reflection Sanat > Kumara is. Sai Baba embodies the energy of Love at a cosmic level > (the Christ embodies this energy at the planetary level) and his > work, in part, is to prepare humanity for the work of the Christ. By > awakening the love principle in humanity, Sai Baba will prepare > people for the Initiatory work of the Christ. As the Hierophant, the > Initiator, at the first two planetary initiations, the Christ will > lead humanity gradually out of the strictly human kingdom into the > Hierarchy, the Kingdom of Souls, or the Kingdom of God. That is his > major work in the coming age of Aquarius. These two Great Ones work > together in daily contact, complete harmony and shared purpose in the > evolution of mankind. > > - Benjamin Creme > > http://www.shareintl.org > I don't understand what molesting boys has to do with divine work. It seems cruel and very un-God like.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How do you know for sure ? In my opinion this is just wild > speculation, possible fed by rampant corruption in indian politics. Prompted by the discussion here, I read some stuff that Conny Larsson wrote, who was a highly placed member of Sigh Baba's organization, and I must admit his accounts read very very credibly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba
The Pseudo-Secular indian Politicians and Left-wing Politicians have done immense damage to India and Vedic Culture. The Right-wing Statesmen are trying their best to Protect Hinduism, Vedism, Buddhism and Indian Culture. There is No Black Lodge in India, But Vote-bank Politics and unfair Caste-reservations and Massive Corruption in Politics and beaurocracy keeps india weak. To attract small children, one has to give out Sweets. Sai's tricks are just to attract people to the Spiritual Path. Sai himself has admited to Enlightened devotees that it's just a trick. nablusos108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:26:19 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba How do you know for sure ? In my opinion this is just wild speculation, possible fed by rampant corruption in indian politics. They have even arrested Swami Premananda and kept him in prison for many years to try to get money from his western disciples. In India there is no justice. Question. In 2004, Shankaracharya of Kanchi (South India) was arrested and charged with murder. To protest against his arrest, Muslims and Hindus were united in marching. Some Hindu monks say there is fear of `trial by media'. (1) Behind the case of Shankaracharya' s arrest, are there any politicians' conspiracies to get their own benefits using police force, as with the case of Swami Premananda? (2) And furthermore, behind this sequence of plots against spiritual persons is there the force of the so-called Black Lodge? (3) Are the targets mainly Hindu spiritual leaders, because Maitreya is now teaching in Hindu temples in London? Benjamin Creme. (1) Yes. (2) No. (3) No. The attacks on spiritual leaders in India come from secular, right-wing groups who believe they are creating a `modern' India no longer being influenced by `superstition and religious corruption', which, they believe, has held India back in the past. (The following questions and answers were transcribed from a lecture by Benjamin Creme at Friends House, London, in November 2005.) Q. A criticism I have heard of Sai Baba is that he does cheap magic tricks. I have met a lot of his followers who have these really cheap looking rings. He says he takes gifts from the elemental fields. A. The higher you are the more people want to bring you down. You can't get higher than Sai Baba. Those who are against Him want to bring Him down. He has no need to buy cheap rings, He can make them without effort. For Him it is not a miracle. The person getting it is breathless, because they have a cheap little ring made by Sai Baba. Audience member: My criticism is He is taking gifts from the elemental field. But you don't know if He is not putting it back! Q - TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Peter > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:10 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba > > > > And the pedophilia? Whom is that meant to trick to the > > spiritual path? > > Haven't you ever heard of hookers for Christ? > > But these guys will never believe it, unless Sai puts the > moves on them personally. Because they're not seekers. > Seekers don't hide in feel-good conceptual boxes. They > want to break out of those and see what's really > what. Well said. Those who are convinced that they know the Absolute Truth are no longer seekers. They are convinced that they've "found." What they rarely consider is that this implies is duality -- there is someone who has "found," and something else *to* be found.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Peter > > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:10 PM > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba > > > > > > And the pedophilia? Whom is that meant to trick to the > > > spiritual path? > > > > Haven't you ever heard of hookers for Christ? > > > > But these guys will never believe it, unless Sai puts the > > moves on them personally. Because they're not seekers. > > Seekers don't hide in feel-good conceptual boxes. They > > want to break out of those and see what's really > > what. > > Well said. Those who are convinced that they know > the Absolute Truth are no longer seekers. They > are convinced that they've "found." Yes, this can be described as getting increasingly lost in the ego- dream. This is sometimes a prerequisite to the dark night of the soul of the seeker continues the practice beyond this point. > What they rarely consider is that this implies > is duality -- there is someone who has "found," > and something else *to* be found. >
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How do you know for sure ? In my opinion this is just wild > speculation, possible fed by rampant corruption in indian politics. > They have even arrested Swami Premananda and kept him in prison for > many years to try to get money from his western disciples. In India > there is no justice. There is no justice in SaiBaba's region of India because he's a multi-millionaire who has long since bought off the local politicos. One reason the multiple-murders that took place in his office years ago were never investigated properly. The rich like SB tend to do well in India's justice system due to payoffs. Plus the allegations are not coming from indian politicos, the most damaging are coming from westerners who were once high up in his org, like regional coordinators in the US, whose own children have been seen by US doctors and sexual abuse verified. These parents did not want to believe the rumours for years due to their belief systems around SB, but finally had to accept the truth. SB's mistake was starting to molest western kids - he got away with molesting the indian orphans for yrs because they had no power whatsoever. > Question. In 2004, Shankaracharya of Kanchi (South India) was > arrested and charged with murder. To protest against his arrest, > Muslims and Hindus were united in marching. Some Hindu monks say > there is fear of `trial by media'. (1) Behind the case of > Shankaracharya's arrest, are there any politicians' conspiracies to > get their own benefits using police force, as with the case of Swami > Premananda? (2) And furthermore, behind this sequence of plots > against spiritual persons is there the force of the so-called Black > Lodge? (3) Are the targets mainly Hindu spiritual leaders, because > Maitreya is now teaching in Hindu temples in London? > > Benjamin Creme. (1) Yes. (2) No. (3) No. The attacks on spiritual > leaders in India come from secular, right-wing groups who believe > they are creating a `modern' India no longer being influenced > by `superstition and religious corruption', which, they believe, has > held India back in the past. Who cares what some astral being is telling Creme, esp since he's been wrong on all his predictions since the 70s.
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> > Question. In 2004, Shankaracharya of Kanchi (South India) was > > arrested and charged with murder. To protest against his arrest, > > Muslims and Hindus were united in marching. Some Hindu monks say > > there is fear of `trial by media'. (1) Behind the case of > > Shankaracharya's arrest, are there any politicians' conspiracies to > > get their own benefits using police force, as with the case of Swami > > Premananda? (2) And furthermore, behind this sequence of plots > > against spiritual persons is there the force of the so-called Black > > Lodge? (3) Are the targets mainly Hindu spiritual leaders, because > > Maitreya is now teaching in Hindu temples in London? > > > > Benjamin Creme. (1) Yes. (2) No. (3) No. The attacks on spiritual > > leaders in India come from secular, right-wing groups who believe > > they are creating a `modern' India no longer being influenced > > by `superstition and religious corruption', which, they believe, has > > held India back in the past. > > Who cares what some astral being is telling Creme, esp since he's been > wrong on all his predictions since the 70s. Examples ?
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>Who cares what some astral being is telling Creme, esp since he's been > wrong on all his predictions since the 70s. > Yea, but he's accurately predicted 11 of the last 4 bear markets. Lurk
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Please email me the name of your dealer. Seriously dude, I have been getting ripped off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sai Baba's miracle > > The next day I left for Madrid to stay with some old friends for a > few days. I took with me a videotape of the documentary on Maitreya > and Sai Baba broadcast on Nippon TV (Japan TV) in Japan on 15 June > this year. On Sunday, 16 October, the day after my friends (CMP and > her husband R) had seen it, as we rose from the dining table in the > company of her six-year-old daughter and her nanny, my friend CMP, > who was upset because the nanny was leaving but had not yet found > another place of work, mentally addressed God and asked for help for > this woman, whose name is Lydia. > > CMP was thinking, as she told me later, of the documentary we had > seen the night before, and she also asked Sai Baba for help. At that > moment she recalled how Sai Baba extends His hand and with small > circular motions produces vibhuti (holy ash) from His hands. I saw > her looking up rather theatrically (my friend is an actress and a > singer) and, as she later explained, she thought rather defiantly at > that moment: "Well, why not?" and extended her hand. Perhaps because > she is an actress, the small, circular motions of her hand exactly > imitated Sai Baba's motions and I was amused, thinking: "How she > loves to act!" Suddenly, a white powder with a silver sheen issued > from her hand. She sprinkled it into Lydia's cupped hands. R was > dazed and seemed not to believe his eyes. I was shocked and kept > thinking that this must be a trick. CMP's little daughter kept asking > what this was. There was some consternation and confusion. I felt > people should not be alarmed by this, so I said in a casual > voice: "Oh, this is a powder I brought back from India." (At that > moment, still trying to find a different explanation, I thought there > was a chance I had given CMP some vibhuti when I returned from India > after having visited Sai Baba's ashram in January this year. Then I > realized that I had not done so.) > > CMP added humorously: "Yes! Magic Powder!" but she was trembling. Her > daughter immediately asked for some, and her mother gave her most of > the rest of it. But a lot of it still clung to her palm and fingers > and she thrust her upturned palm near my face saying: "Smell this!" > The delicate, flowery scent of the vibhuti was unmistakable. It was > certainly not white like ordinary talcum powder, because it had that > silvery sheen that is visible when Sai Baba produces vibhuti from His > own hand. Lydia, unsure of what was happening, but sensing this must > be something very special, accepted this miracle humbly although she > did not know its origin. She smoothed the vibhuti over her neck and > forehead in a very natural manner. CMP, meanwhile, started to shake > visibly, and not wanting to make a spectacle of herself she retired > to her bedroom. I followed her. She lay on her bed with a drink, and > the ice cubes shook in the glass. CMP simply could not get over it. > When she had recovered somewhat she looked up again and said > aloud: "Sai Baba, don't do this to me again! I can't absorb things > like this!" Then she said: "Goodness, look at this!" There was still > some vibhuti underneath her ring. > > http://www.shareintl.org >
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" > wrote: > > > > > > How do you know for sure ? In my opinion this is just wild > > speculation, possible fed by rampant corruption in indian politics. > > Prompted by the discussion here, I read some stuff that Conny Larsson > wrote, who was a highly placed member of Sigh Baba's organization, and > I must admit his accounts read very very credibly. Connie did not understand Maharishi. Why do you give him the credit to understand Sai Baba ?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" > wrote: > > > > > > How do you know for sure ? In my opinion this is just wild > > speculation, possible fed by rampant corruption in indian politics. > > Prompted by the discussion here, I read some stuff that Conny Larsson > wrote, who was a highly placed member of Sigh Baba's organization, and > I must admit his accounts read very very credibly. > Almost any sane person's narrative will sound credible without cross-examination.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba Dead?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > Rumor has it he is, but it's being covered up in the hospital while attempts > are made to get hold of the funds that the Sai org has hidden. Miracles of a 'God-Man'? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9QqaPbFE78&feature=related Tricks as old as the hills below: (Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney; say, say, say) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqBgn_sN94Y&feature=related
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Any word on whether the death was long and painful? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > Rumor has it he is, but it's being covered up in the hospital while attempts > are made to get hold of the funds that the Sai org has hidden. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba Dead?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > Any word on whether the death was long and painful? He was a planetary Avatar and beyond pain.
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Could he be both a pedophile fraud AND a "planetary Avatar" Nabby? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > Any word on whether the death was long and painful? > > > He was a planetary Avatar and beyond pain. >
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > Could he be both a pedophile fraud AND a "planetary Avatar" Nabby? Ofcourse not. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > Any word on whether the death was long and painful? > > > > > > He was a planetary Avatar and beyond pain. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba Dead?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > Could he be both a pedophile fraud AND a "planetary Avatar" Nabby? > > Ofcourse not. A miracle. Joe and Nabby are finally agreed. Since there is abundant evidence that Sai Baba was a pedophile fraud, and zero evidence that he was a "planetary Avatar," and since no less a source than Nabby says he couldn't be both, we can safely assume that Sai Baba was NOT an avatar. Glad that's settled. :-)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > Could he be both a pedophile fraud AND a "planetary Avatar" Nabby? > > > > Ofcourse not. > > A miracle. Joe and Nabby are finally agreed. > > Since there is abundant evidence that Sai Baba was > a pedophile fraud, snip Is that so ? Where is that "abundant evidence" ? Some films have been produced to try to disgrace Sai Baba, a campaign to try to blackmail Him for money. A very common tactic in one of the most corrupt countries on earth. But on FFL noone cares about facts as long as Great Beings are portrayed in a bad ligh. Just ask Rick.
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> > Since there is abundant evidence that Sai Baba > > was a pedophile fraud... > > nablusoss1008: > Is that so? Where is that "abundant evidence"? > There is no evidence and there are no charges in Indian courts against Sai Baba. And, since Baba is probably dead, there's no chance for a cross-examination, so there's no case, just rumors, just like Joe posted about MMY. So, maybe Joe would like to post some evidence, or keep his big pie hole shut about other people's private sex life, or lack thereof.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > Is that so ? Where is that "abundant evidence" ? > Some films have been produced to try to disgrace Sai Baba, a campaign to try > to blackmail Him for money. > A very common tactic in one of the most corrupt countries on earth. > > But on FFL noone cares about facts as long as Great Beings are portrayed in a > bad ligh. > Just ask Rick. > I can't speak to the pedo stuff but I can state as a fact that I have seen videos of him doing stage magic and passing it off as miracles. If you are trained in stage magic you actually see him doing the moves. That doesn't make any case for him being a deviant but it sure makes him a disreputable, dishonest person. I don't know how anyone can counter argue that it really IS a miracle once this has been exposed. Since this information is commonly available I am amazed that people have the ability to keep up the pretense that he was a special guy. I do understand the mindset a bit. There is no amount of evidence that will change some people's mind. I was stuck there about Maharishi. I believe that people can function in different interesting ways and of course we don't have much information at all about variations of the human mind. But I have come to the conclusion that the least likely place to find an extraordinary mind will be among the self described spiritual people. Now I am working backwards from people doing extraordinary things as evidence of them being special. Not the fanciful miracles but exceptional abilities that I share the ordinary range of. And guys like Sai Baba understood this way of looking at the evidence of specialness first before listening to them telling you how special they are. The problem was that his evidence was fraudulent. Simple as that. But he was playing on a human tendency to want proof. Or more likely the human tendency to want to believe that proof had been given without doing the humbling heavy lifting to really test the idea. Crack a 10 year old kid's magic book. Watch the films. Realize that your search for a special person must go on and you have more work to do to find someone unique. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > > > Could he be both a pedophile fraud AND a "planetary Avatar" Nabby? > > > > > > Ofcourse not. > > > > A miracle. Joe and Nabby are finally agreed. > > > > Since there is abundant evidence that Sai Baba was > > a pedophile fraud, > snip > > > Is that so ? Where is that "abundant evidence" ? > Some films have been produced to try to disgrace Sai Baba, a campaign to try > to blackmail Him for money. > A very common tactic in one of the most corrupt countries on earth. > > But on FFL noone cares about facts as long as Great Beings are portrayed in a > bad ligh. > Just ask Rick. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba Dead?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > Since there is abundant evidence that Sai Baba > > > was a pedophile fraud... > > > > nablusoss1008: > > Is that so? Where is that "abundant evidence"? > > > There is no evidence and there are no charges in > Indian courts against Sai Baba. And, since Baba > is probably dead, there's no chance for a > cross-examination, so there's no case, just rumors, > just like Joe posted about MMY. > > So, maybe Joe would like to post some evidence, or > keep his big pie hole shut about other people's > private sex life, or lack thereof. Good advice but he can´t. For him, Rick, Curtis, Barry et al. it´s in their blood. Their fear of someone actually having achieved enlightenment, not to mention the status of an Avatar is total. It´s probably their biggest paranoia in life to one day wake up to be confronted with the simple fact that they wasted their time while others became free.
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Hey Pete, how did you know I am a member of sloppy sleight-of-hand.com? Oh wait, sorry, that was sloppy seconds.com that I am a member of,nevermind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > --- On Tue, 4/19/11, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > From: curtisdeltablues > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba Dead? > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 10:44 AM > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > Is that so ? Where is that "abundant evidence" ? > > > Some films have been produced to try to disgrace Sai > > Baba, a campaign to try to blackmail Him for money. > > > A very common tactic in one of the most corrupt > > countries on earth. > > > > > > But on FFL noone cares about facts as long as Great > > Beings are portrayed in a bad ligh. > > > Just ask Rick. > > > > > > > I can't speak to the pedo stuff but I can state as a fact > > that I have seen videos of him doing stage magic and passing > > it off as miracles. If you are trained in stage magic you > > actually see him doing the moves. That doesn't make > > any case for him being a deviant but it sure makes him a > > disreputable, dishonest person. I don't know how anyone can > > counter argue that it really IS a miracle once this has been > > exposed. > > > > Since this information is commonly available I am amazed > > that people have the ability to keep up the pretense that he > > was a special guy. I do understand the mindset a > > bit. There is no amount of evidence that will change > > some people's mind. I was stuck there about > > Maharishi. > > > > I believe that people can function in different interesting > > ways and of course we don't have much information at all > > about variations of the human mind. But I have come to > > the conclusion that the least likely place to find an > > extraordinary mind will be among the self described > > spiritual people. Now I am working backwards from > > people doing extraordinary things as evidence of them being > > special. Not the fanciful miracles but exceptional > > abilities that I share the ordinary range of. > > > > And guys like Sai Baba understood this way of looking at > > the evidence of specialness first before listening to them > > telling you how special they are. The problem was that his > > evidence was fraudulent. Simple as that. But he > > was playing on a human tendency to want proof. Or more > > likely the human tendency to want to believe that proof had > > been given without doing the humbling heavy lifting to > > really test the idea. Crack a 10 year old kid's magic > > book. Watch the films. Realize that your search > > for a special person must go on and you have more work to do > > to find someone unique. > > You don't even have to be a trained magician to see the really sloppy > sleight-of-hand. Look at the Youtube videos. Really ridiculous stuff. Also > the pedo stuff is pretty well known and even acknowledged by his organization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Could he be both a pedophile fraud AND > > a "planetary Avatar" Nabby? > > > > > > > > > > Ofcourse not. > > > > > > > > A miracle. Joe and Nabby are finally agreed. > > > > > > > > Since there is abundant evidence that Sai Baba > > was > > > > a pedophile fraud, > > > snip > > > > > > > > > Is that so ? Where is that "abundant evidence" ? > > > Some films have been produced to try to disgrace Sai > > Baba, a campaign to try to blackmail Him for money. > > > A very common tactic in one of the most corrupt > > countries on earth. > > > > > > But on FFL noone cares about facts as long as Great > > Beings are portrayed in a bad ligh. > > > Just ask Rick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > >
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-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > Good advice but he can´t. > For him, Rick, Curtis, Barry et al. it´s in their blood. Their fear of > someone actually having achieved enlightenment, not to mention the status of > an Avatar is total. > > It´s probably their biggest paranoia in life to one day wake up to be > confronted with the simple fact that they wasted their time while others > became free. > I was surprised to see you include Rick in that list Nabby. I mean the guy created a massive project devoted to giving a voice to people who claim to have achieved a higher state. I can't think of anybody less afraid of the idea that someone achieved "enlightenment". Maybe your beef is that Rick has also presented information that may lead a person to conclude that with or without any higher states, guys like Maharishi can do disreputable things. Is it the tarnishing of any aspect of the perfection persona that you object to? As far as I go (I'll bet Barry will speak for himself) I don't see any evidence that anyone is becoming "free". Quite the opposite. It seems to me that your lack of ability to even acknowledge obvious facts about these guys, (like Sai's Mr. Magic Show right out of the box) leads me to believe that your ability to separate fact from fantasy is highly impaired. You are on equal footing with Christians who claim that they are saved and you and me are not. Now the wasting time aspect is interesting. I can't say that you are wasting you time pursuing ideas and beliefs that obviously give you a lot of happiness. I sincerely believe you are misguided, but hell, we all make our choices of what to pay attention to and what to ignore in life. But I am no more afraid of making a mistake not following your bread crumbs than you are about rejecting the Christians who believe as sincerely as you do that you are dammed to an eternity in hell. My freedom, and what I had been pursuing under the umbrella name of "enlightenment", came when I dropped the beliefs you hold so dear. It allowed me to find my self in the world, what I used to call dharma. And the joy it has given me is complete. It was exactly what I had been looking for all along. So I can be happy for you that you found what makes you happy. Can you do the same for me? None of us got an owner's manual for this life. We are all pilgrims finding our way. If I met you in person and clocked your beliefs you would probably never know that I am skeptical about those beliefs. Interacting on a board like this makes the usual barriers of respect between people harder. That is a plus and a minus. In fact in person in a social setting I would love to wind you up and get you talking about your beliefs. They fascinate me. And then you would tool off believing that you had made another convert, and I could go on interviewing another cellmate in the human zoo. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Since there is abundant evidence that Sai Baba > > > > was a pedophile fraud... > > > > > > nablusoss1008: > > > Is that so? Where is that "abundant evidence"? > > > > > There is no evidence and there are no charges in > > Indian courts against Sai Baba. And, since Baba > > is probably dead, there's no chance for a > > cross-examination, so there's no case, just rumors, > > just like Joe posted about MMY. > > > > So, maybe Joe would like to post some evidence, or > > keep his big pie hole shut about other people's > > private sex life, or lack thereof. > > > Good advice but he can´t. > For him, Rick, Curtis, Barry et al. it´s in their blood. Their fear of > someone actually having achieved enlightenment, not to mention the status of > an Avatar is total. > > It´s probably their biggest paranoia in life to one day wake up to be > confronted with the simple fact that they wasted their time while others > became free. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba Dead?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > Good advice but he can´t. > > For him, Rick, Curtis, Barry et al. it´s in their blood. > > Their fear of someone actually having achieved enlightenment, > > not to mention the status of an Avatar is total. > > > > It´s probably their biggest paranoia in life to one day wake > > up to be confronted with the simple fact that they wasted > > their time while others became free. > > I was surprised to see you include Rick in that list Nabby. > I mean the guy created a massive project devoted to giving > a voice to people who claim to have achieved a higher state. "Claim" being the operative word. :-) > As far as I go (I'll bet Barry will speak for himself) I > don't see any evidence that anyone is becoming "free". I wasn't going to bother to comment because, after all, it's Nabby. Who cares what someone who believes that Sri Sri Con Man Sai Baba is an avatar because of what Sri Sri Even Bigger Con Man Benjamin Creme told him says? :-) But for the fun of it, I still believe that a state that fits *some* of the classic descriptions of enlightenment exists, and consider it possible that some in history have "achieved" it. Big whoop. If either Maharishi or Rama were enlightened, I don't want it. Far from being "free," I consider both of them among the most bound and attached human beings I've ever met. I've met cabbies and bellhops and hookers who were more free. And more honest. The thing is, I don't confer the supposedly enlight- ened with any special qualities, even though they often confer specialnessitude upon themselves. Who- ever they are, past or present, I hold them to the same standards I would hold anyone else. And these are *objective* standards. Do they lie? Do they break the law and commit fraud? Do they abuse the trust of students by sleeping with them? All of these things were done by both Maharishi and Rama. Knowing what I know about them, I wouldn't willingly be *friends* with either of them, much less consider them what most people think of "the enlightened." That said, I consider enlightenment very possible, but again the Big Whoop Factor wins out for me. I don't seek it myself, and don't recommend that others seek it unless they get off on the idea.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > Good advice but he can´t. > > > For him, Rick, Curtis, Barry et al. it´s in their blood. > > > Their fear of someone actually having achieved enlightenment, > > > not to mention the status of an Avatar is total. > > > > > > It´s probably their biggest paranoia in life to one day wake > > > up to be confronted with the simple fact that they wasted > > > their time while others became free. > > I wasn't going to bother to comment because, after > all, it's Nabby. Who cares what someone who believes > that Sri Sri Con Man Sai Baba is an avatar because > of what Sri Sri Even Bigger Con Man Benjamin Creme > told him says? :-) Yes, con men everywhere. First trying to study the teaching of Maharishi, then Rama. Nothing, no results, must be con men. Later, wherever he turns; anyone claiming enlightenment; con man; con men everywhere ! His own lack of talent and preserverence in gaining the fruit of knowledge is obviously because the teacher is a con man. Who´s to blame for a miserable life wasted in front of a computer ? You guessed it; it´s the con men, who else?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > Good advice but he can´t. > > > > For him, Rick, Curtis, Barry et al. it´s in their blood. > > > > Their fear of someone actually having achieved enlightenment, > > > > not to mention the status of an Avatar is total. > > > > > > > > It´s probably their biggest paranoia in life to one day wake > > > > up to be confronted with the simple fact that they wasted > > > > their time while others became free. > > > > > I wasn't going to bother to comment because, after > > all, it's Nabby. Who cares what someone who believes > > that Sri Sri Con Man Sai Baba is an avatar because > > of what Sri Sri Even Bigger Con Man Benjamin Creme > > told him says? :-) > > > Yes, con men everywhere. First trying to study the teaching of Maharishi, then Rama. Nothing, no results, must be con men. > > Later, wherever he turns; anyone claiming enlightenment; con man; con men everywhere ! > > His own lack of talent and preserverence in gaining the fruit of knowledge is obviously because the teacher is a con man. > > Who´s to blame for a miserable life wasted in front of a computer ? > You guessed it; it´s the con men, who else? > This kind of behavior is nothing new, whether you call it the plain old sour grapes or the fancy cognitive dissonance. Of course with some it seems to cross normal behavior to pathology. No one is asking anyone to believe in enlightenment, there are millions who don't care and happy to spend their lives in so called normal worldly materialistic indulgences. But for some it seems to disrupt their normal lives, they spend time obsessing and indulging in paranoid behavior, spending most of their time mocking, harassing and haranguing believers - what a shame.
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And the pedophilia? Whom is that meant to trick to the spiritual path? --- Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Pseudo-Secular indian Politicians and > Left-wing Politicians have done immense damage to > India and Vedic Culture. > > The Right-wing Statesmen are trying their best > to Protect Hinduism, Vedism, Buddhism and Indian > Culture. > > There is No Black Lodge in India, But > Vote-bank Politics and unfair Caste-reservations and > Massive Corruption in Politics and beaurocracy keeps > india weak. > >To attract small children, one has to give > out Sweets. Sai's tricks are just to attract people > to the Spiritual Path. Sai himself has admited to > Enlightened devotees that it's just a trick. > > nablusos108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:26:19 - > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba > > > How do you know for sure ? In my opinion this is > just wild > speculation, possible fed by rampant corruption in > indian politics. > They have even arrested Swami Premananda and kept > him in prison for > many years to try to get money from his western > disciples. In India > there is no justice. > > Question. In 2004, Shankaracharya of Kanchi (South > India) was > arrested and charged with murder. To protest against > his arrest, > Muslims and Hindus were united in marching. Some > Hindu monks say > there is fear of `trial by media'. (1) Behind the > case of > Shankaracharya' s arrest, are there any politicians' > conspiracies to > get their own benefits using police force, as with > the case of Swami > Premananda? (2) And furthermore, behind this > sequence of plots > against spiritual persons is there the force of the > so-called Black > Lodge? (3) Are the targets mainly Hindu spiritual > leaders, because > Maitreya is now teaching in Hindu temples in London? > > Benjamin Creme. (1) Yes. (2) No. (3) No. The attacks > on spiritual > leaders in India come from secular, right-wing > groups who believe > they are creating a `modern' India no longer being > influenced > by `superstition and religious corruption', which, > they believe, has > held India back in the past. > > (The following questions and answers were > transcribed from a lecture > by Benjamin Creme at Friends House, London, in > November 2005.) > > Q. A criticism I have heard of Sai Baba is that he > does cheap magic > tricks. I have met a lot of his followers who have > these really cheap > looking rings. He says he takes gifts from the > elemental fields. > A. The higher you are the more people want to bring > you down. You > can't get higher than Sai Baba. Those who are > against Him want to > bring Him down. He has no need to buy cheap rings, > He can make them > without effort. For Him it is not a miracle. The > person getting it is > breathless, because they have a cheap little ring > made by Sai Baba. > Audience member: My criticism is He is taking gifts > from the > elemental field. > But you don't know if He is not putting it back! > > Q > > > > - > TV dinner still cooling? > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:10 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba And the pedophilia? Whom is that meant to trick to the spiritual path? Haven't you ever heard of hookers for Christ? But these guys will never believe it, unless Sai puts the moves on them personally. Because they're not seekers. Seekers don't hide in feel-good conceptual boxes. They want to break out of those and see what's really what.
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--- nablusos108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Question. In 2004, Shankaracharya of Kanchi > (South India) was > > > arrested and charged with murder. To protest > against his arrest, > > > Muslims and Hindus were united in marching. Some > Hindu monks say > > > there is fear of `trial by media'. (1) Behind > the case of > > > Shankaracharya's arrest, are there any > politicians' conspiracies > to > > > get their own benefits using police force, as > with the case of > Swami > > > Premananda? (2) And furthermore, behind this > sequence of plots > > > against spiritual persons is there the force of > the so-called > Black > > > Lodge? (3) Are the targets mainly Hindu > spiritual leaders, > because > > > Maitreya is now teaching in Hindu temples in > London? > > > > > > Benjamin Creme. (1) Yes. (2) No. (3) No. The > attacks on spiritual > > > leaders in India come from secular, right-wing > groups who believe > > > they are creating a `modern' India no longer > being influenced > > > by `superstition and religious corruption', > which, they believe, > has > > > held India back in the past. > > > > Who cares what some astral being is telling Creme, > esp since he's > been > > wrong on all his predictions since the 70s. > > Examples ? You're kidding, right? > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
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How do I know. There is report, after report, after report of people who have spent time with Sai Baba who have seen this and those who have been abused by him. It has gotten so bad that his organization does not even deny it now, but tries to spin it into some sort of cosmic darshan or blessing. It is disgusting and absurd. He also very, very clearly uses sleight-of-hand (and not very good sleight-of-hand at that) to "manifest" watches and trinkets. He is completely full of shit. He obviously has some sort of charismatic power or charm that seduces people. He is such a fraud and a disgusting pedophile on top of it all. --- nablusos108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do you know for sure ? In my opinion this is > just wild > speculation, possible fed by rampant corruption in > indian politics. > They have even arrested Swami Premananda and kept > him in prison for > many years to try to get money from his western > disciples. In India > there is no justice. > > Question. In 2004, Shankaracharya of Kanchi (South > India) was > arrested and charged with murder. To protest against > his arrest, > Muslims and Hindus were united in marching. Some > Hindu monks say > there is fear of `trial by media'. (1) Behind the > case of > Shankaracharya's arrest, are there any politicians' > conspiracies to > get their own benefits using police force, as with > the case of Swami > Premananda? (2) And furthermore, behind this > sequence of plots > against spiritual persons is there the force of the > so-called Black > Lodge? (3) Are the targets mainly Hindu spiritual > leaders, because > Maitreya is now teaching in Hindu temples in London? > > Benjamin Creme. (1) Yes. (2) No. (3) No. The attacks > on spiritual > leaders in India come from secular, right-wing > groups who believe > they are creating a `modern' India no longer being > influenced > by `superstition and religious corruption', which, > they believe, has > held India back in the past. > > (The following questions and answers were > transcribed from a lecture > by Benjamin Creme at Friends House, London, in > November 2005.) > > Q. A criticism I have heard of Sai Baba is that he > does cheap magic > tricks. I have met a lot of his followers who have > these really cheap > looking rings. He says he takes gifts from the > elemental fields. > A. The higher you are the more people want to bring > you down. You > can't get higher than Sai Baba. Those who are > against Him want to > bring Him down. He has no need to buy cheap rings, > He can make them > without effort. For Him it is not a miracle. The > person getting it is > breathless, because they have a cheap little ring > made by Sai Baba. > Audience member: My criticism is He is taking gifts > from the > elemental field. > But you don't know if He is not putting it back! > > Q > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Jesus wept. What a bunch of bullsh*t. Doesn't > Creme > > know that Sai Baba is a pedophile? He likes to > have > > his penis sucked by young boys. This is just > predatory > > lust pure and simple. > > > > --- nablusos108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Maitreya and other well-known figures > > > This page sheds some light into the relationship > > > between Maitreya and > > > some well-known figures such as Sai Baba, the > > > Buddha, Krishna and > > > Krishnamurti. This information is excerpted from > the > > > books by > > > Benjamin Creme. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maitreya & Sai Baba > > > Sai Baba is a teacher or guru in south India > with an > > > enormous > > > following. Hundreds of thousands, perhaps one or > two > > > million people > > > from all over the world would claim to be his > > > devotees. These > > > Followers see him as God, the creator of the > > > universe. He is a cosmic > > > avatar. Sai Baba and Maitreya both embody the > same > > > energy--what we > > > call the Christ principle, the energy of Love > --- > > > Sai Baba at the > > > cosmic level, Maitreya at the planetary level. > > > > > > The relation of Sai Baba to the Christ: The > Christ > > > is a planetary > > > avatar, Sai Baba is a cosmic avatar. He is a > > > Spiritual Regent, sent > > > into the world by the Lord of the World, Sanat > > > Kumara, on Shamballa. > > > A regent "stands in" for the king. Similarly, a > > > Spiritual > > > Regent "stands in" for God, for the Logos, Whose > > > reflection Sanat > > > Kumara is. Sai Baba embodies the energy of Love > at a > > > cosmic level > > > (the Christ embodies this energy at the > planetary > > > level) and his > > > work, in part, is to prepare humanity for the > work > > > of the Christ. By > > > awakening the love principle in humanity, Sai > Baba > > > will prepare > > > people for the Initiatory work of the Christ. As > the > > > Hierophant, the > > > Initiator, at the first two planetary > initiations, > > > the Christ will > > >
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jim_flanegin Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:52 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "nablusos108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How do you know for sure ? In my opinion this is just wild > speculation, possible fed by rampant corruption in indian politics. Prompted by the discussion here, I read some stuff that Conny Larsson wrote, who was a highly placed member of Sigh Baba's organization, and I must admit his accounts read very very credibly. There's at least one pro-Sai Baba site in which his sexual antics are readily admitted, but an attempt is made to put a cosmic spin on them. There's also a very convincing BBC documentary featuring an American family who had been ardent devotees until discovering that their son had been molested for a long time. Andy Rymer also admitted having had some sexual interaction with SB.
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In a message dated 1/29/07 3:08:23 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He also very, very clearly uses sleight-of-hand (and not very good sleight-of-hand at that) to "manifest" watches and trinkets. He is completely full of shit. He obviously has some sort of charismatic power or charm that seduces people. He is such a fraud and a disgusting pedophile on top of it all. Somebody once asked M about doing siddhis and he said he didn't, but Sai Baba does these things. I guess even M was fooled.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/42vrw3v So the hospital is owned by his organization, eh? I can just hear his doctor now: "Take a snort of vibhuti, feel up several small boys' private parts, and call me in the morning." I knew a few former Sai Baba followers in Santa Fe. All of them would join me in wishing him Godspeed and good riddance.
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One less pedophile/fraudster in the system. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/42vrw3v > > So the hospital is owned by his organization, eh? > I can just hear his doctor now: "Take a snort of > vibhuti, feel up several small boys' private parts, > and call me in the morning." > > I knew a few former Sai Baba followers in Santa Fe. > All of them would join me in wishing him Godspeed > and good riddance. >
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Joe > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:05 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak > One less pedophile/fraudster in the system. > > But plenty more where he came from. Curtis knows a little magic. Curtis, can > you grow an afro? If he recovers it will be a *miracle*!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Joe > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:05 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak > > > > > > One less pedophile/fraudster in the system. > > But plenty more where he came from. Curtis knows a little magic. Curtis, can > > you grow an afro? I'll break out my old Beatle wig and have vibhuti rain down like...well... rain! I hope the kid thing isn't part of the package cuz homie don't play that. I'm on the W.C. Fields program: "Children? Sure I like children, girl children between 18 and 20!" >
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curtisdeltablues: > I like children, girl children between 18 and 20!" > What does your wife think of that? You're at least 50 years old, right?
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-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > curtisdeltablues: > > I like children, girl children between 18 and 20!" > > > What does your wife think of that? You're at least > 50 years old, right? Yeah, I'm too old for those younguns, that was just a great quote. Chicks under 40 are a total pain in the ass. I'm dating age appropriate (older than I am) these days and am much happier! >
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This is what is called a stupid comment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > But plenty more where he came from. Curtis knows a little magic. Curtis, can > you grow an afro? >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
I thought it was a joke, but for this comment - "But plenty more where he came from". If its a joke please ignore, if not can you please care to explain? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > This is what is called a stupid comment. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote: > > But plenty more where he came from. Curtis knows a little magic. > Curtis, can > > you grow an afro? > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzfwtX2kgOA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > curtisdeltablues: > > > I like children, girl children between 18 and 20!" > > > > > What does your wife think of that? You're at least > > 50 years old, right? > > Yeah, I'm too old for those younguns, that was just a great quote. Chicks > under 40 are a total pain in the ass. I'm dating age appropriate (older than > I am) these days and am much happier! > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
I would recommend that it be removed. I don't think any association or implication of being a pedohphile is a good idea. Things tend to be more funny when a joke is on someone else. When someone's livlihood or even their pro bona activities involve association with school children then I don't think it's appropiate. Of course it was meant to be a joke. I don't think it worked. Maybe I am just being anal. No pun intended. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > I thought it was a joke, but for this comment - "But plenty more where > he came from". If its a joke please ignore, if not can you please care > to explain? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@ > wrote: > > > > > > This is what is called a stupid comment. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote: > > > But plenty more where he came from. Curtis knows a little magic. > > Curtis, can > > > you grow an afro? > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
seventhray1: > I don't think any association or > implication of being a pedohphile > is a good idea... > Well, it looked like Stupid Joe was calling Curtis a perv of some kind. Then Curtis made a joke about it. Maybe these two should just keep their pie-holes shut for awhile.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
Rick Archer: > I seriously think he should grow an afro, have his > skin darkened... > Have his skin darkened? This is another joke, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of seventhray1 > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:01 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak > > > > > > I would recommend that it be removed. I don't think any association or > implication of being a pedohphile is a good idea. > > Even worse is to actually be one, as evidence suggests Sai Baba is/was. > > Things tend to be more funny when a joke is on someone else. When someone's > livlihood or even their pro bona activities involve association with school > children then I don't think it's appropiate. Of course it was meant to be a > joke. I don't think it worked. > > My point about Curtis wasn't a joke. I seriously think he should grow an > afro, have his skin darkened, have any necessary plastic surgery performed, > learn Hindi, then go to India, and when Sai Baba dies, arrange to have the > death covered up, then emerge from the hospital looking like a > 30-years-younger Sai Baba. The devotees will be ecstatic! Curtis is probably > better than Sai Baba at sleight of hand, so the vibhuti and cheap trinkets > will continue to manifest, and the critics will be relieved to discover that > the new, improved Sai Baba has changed his preference from young boys to > mature women. Sai Baba with a banjo. That brought a tear to my eye. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
I appreciate Steve having my back but I didn't take Rick's post to have anything to do with Sai's personal life, just his professional charlatan life. I didn't think he was implying more than that. It says a lot about the guy that his name is synonymous here with criminally sick behavior. so I guess I am not the only one who is skeptical about some self proclaimed God men! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of seventhray1 > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:01 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak > > > > > > I would recommend that it be removed. I don't think any association or > implication of being a pedohphile is a good idea. > > Even worse is to actually be one, as evidence suggests Sai Baba is/was. > > Things tend to be more funny when a joke is on someone else. When someone's > livlihood or even their pro bona activities involve association with school > children then I don't think it's appropiate. Of course it was meant to be a > joke. I don't think it worked. > > My point about Curtis wasn't a joke. I seriously think he should grow an > afro, have his skin darkened, have any necessary plastic surgery performed, > learn Hindi, then go to India, and when Sai Baba dies, arrange to have the > death covered up, then emerge from the hospital looking like a > 30-years-younger Sai Baba. The devotees will be ecstatic! Curtis is probably > better than Sai Baba at sleight of hand, so the vibhuti and cheap trinkets > will continue to manifest, and the critics will be relieved to discover that > the new, improved Sai Baba has changed his preference from young boys to > mature women. > > > > > > Maybe I am just being anal. No pun intended. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > I thought it was a joke, but for this comment - "But plenty more where > > he came from". If its a joke please ignore, if not can you please care > > to explain? > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > This is what is called a stupid comment. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote: > > > > But plenty more where he came from. Curtis knows a little magic. > > > Curtis, can > > > > you grow an afro? > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > Rick Archer: > > I seriously think he should grow an afro, have his > > skin darkened... > > > Have his skin darkened? This is another joke, right? Got your Offend-O-Meter set a tad low don't ya Richard? >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
Rick, you rock! This is why we love you brother. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of seventhray1 > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:01 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak > > > > > > I would recommend that it be removed. I don't think any association or > implication of being a pedohphile is a good idea. > > Even worse is to actually be one, as evidence suggests Sai Baba is/was. > > Things tend to be more funny when a joke is on someone else. When someone's > livlihood or even their pro bona activities involve association with school > children then I don't think it's appropiate. Of course it was meant to be a > joke. I don't think it worked. > > My point about Curtis wasn't a joke. I seriously think he should grow an > afro, have his skin darkened, have any necessary plastic surgery performed, > learn Hindi, then go to India, and when Sai Baba dies, arrange to have the > death covered up, then emerge from the hospital looking like a > 30-years-younger Sai Baba. The devotees will be ecstatic! Curtis is probably > better than Sai Baba at sleight of hand, so the vibhuti and cheap trinkets > will continue to manifest, and the critics will be relieved to discover that > the new, improved Sai Baba has changed his preference from young boys to > mature women. > > > > > > Maybe I am just being anal. No pun intended. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > > > I thought it was a joke, but for this comment - "But plenty more where > > he came from". If its a joke please ignore, if not can you please care > > to explain? > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > This is what is called a stupid comment. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote: > > > > But plenty more where he came from. Curtis knows a little magic. > > > Curtis, can > > > > you grow an afro? > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > My point about Curtis wasn't a joke. I seriously think he should grow an > afro, have his skin darkened, have any necessary plastic surgery performed, > learn Hindi, then go to India, and when Sai Baba dies, arrange to have the > death covered up, then emerge from the hospital looking like a > 30-years-younger Sai Baba. The devotees will be ecstatic! Curtis is probably > better than Sai Baba at sleight of hand, so the vibhuti and cheap trinkets > will continue to manifest, and the critics will be relieved to discover that > the new, improved Sai Baba has changed his preference from young boys to > mature women. I think this would be a good "look" for Curtis in this new incarnation. [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_V0wNLJYX0JU/TANZL4p9MrI/AAU/Nyomn_MR4\ _E/S660/barbarian3.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
I've been back on FFL for a minute and a half and I am already being made over as Queen Latifa. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > My point about Curtis wasn't a joke. I seriously think he should grow > an > > afro, have his skin darkened, have any necessary plastic surgery > performed, > > learn Hindi, then go to India, and when Sai Baba dies, arrange to have > the > > death covered up, then emerge from the hospital looking like a > > 30-years-younger Sai Baba. The devotees will be ecstatic! Curtis is > probably > > better than Sai Baba at sleight of hand, so the vibhuti and cheap > trinkets > > will continue to manifest, and the critics will be relieved to > discover that > > the new, improved Sai Baba has changed his preference from young boys > to > > mature women. > > I think this would be a good "look" for Curtis in this new incarnation. > > > [http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_V0wNLJYX0JU/TANZL4p9MrI/AAU/Nyomn_MR4\ > _E/S660/barbarian3.jpg] >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
> > > I seriously think he should grow an afro, have his > > > skin darkened... > > > > > Have his skin darkened? This is another joke, right? > > curtisdeltablues: > Got your Offend-O-Meter set a tad low don't ya Richard? > Not all people who grow 'Afros' have dark skin, Curtis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > I seriously think he should grow an afro, have his > > > > skin darkened... > > > > > > > Have his skin darkened? This is another joke, right? > > > > curtisdeltablues: > > Got your Offend-O-Meter set a tad low don't ya Richard? > > > Not all people who grow 'Afros' have dark skin, Curtis. Nice try. We were talking about Sai specifically. Aren't there enough legitimate things to be outraged about in this world that you don't have to contrive a perspective? >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
> > Not all people who grow 'Afros' have dark skin, > > Curtis. > > curtisdeltablues: > Nice try. We were talking about Sai specifically. > Aren't there enough legitimate things to be outraged > about in this world that you don't have to contrive > a perspective? > When you snake oil salespeople start talking about other people and their skin color, I try to figure out where they're comming from, but Rick said he was serious. What would a person's skin color have to do with anything?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
curtisdeltablues: > > I appreciate Steve having my back but I didn't > take Rick's post to have anything to do with > Sai's personal life, just his professional > charlatan life. I didn't think he was implying > more than that. > You mean that you don't think Rick was implying that you were a professional charlatan in your day? You sold the snake oil for what, thirteen years? So, I guess he meant you could still be a good snake oil salesman, right? > It says a lot about the guy that his name is > synonymous here with criminally sick behavior. > so I guess I am not the only one who is skeptical > about some self proclaimed God men! > So, why would Rick imply that you'd be the perfect candidate to replace Sai Baba as a 'God Man' if the Sai's name was 'synonymous with criminally sick behavior'? It doesn't even make any sense to make your skin darker! Sai Baba was Caucasian with an 'Afro'!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
Not for Willy, Curtis. Any post is cause for Willy to trot out his tired routines. It never seems to bother him that 99% of the time he ends up pissing in the wind with no takers on his trolling. He just runs the same tired schtick over and over and over... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I seriously think he should grow an afro, have his > > > > > skin darkened... > > > > > > > > > Have his skin darkened? This is another joke, right? > > > > > > curtisdeltablues: > > > Got your Offend-O-Meter set a tad low don't ya Richard? > > > > > Not all people who grow 'Afros' have dark skin, Curtis. > > Nice try. We were talking about Sai specifically. Aren't there enough > legitimate things to be outraged about in this world that you > don't have to contrive a perspective? > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
> > Not all people who grow 'Afros' have dark skin, Curtis. > > curtisdeltablues: > Nice try. > Fred Lenz, Zen Master Rama, lived in upstate New York near Pound Lake. LoL!!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
Rick: > > > Sai Baba may croak > > > Joe: > Not for Willy, Curtis. Any post is cause > for Willy to trot out his tired routines. > It never seems to bother him that 99% of > the time he ends up pissing in the wind > with no takers on his trolling. > Thanks Joe, I knew I could count on you! So, why would Willy want to dialog with four schmucks that got kicked out of running the TMO? > He just runs the same tired schtick over > and over and over... > Joe never seems to get tired of talking about other people's private sex life, after they are dead or are about to croak. LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba Dead?
--- On Tue, 4/19/11, curtisdeltablues wrote: > From: curtisdeltablues > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba Dead? > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 10:44 AM > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > nablusoss1008 wrote: > > Is that so ? Where is that "abundant evidence" ? > > Some films have been produced to try to disgrace Sai > Baba, a campaign to try to blackmail Him for money. > > A very common tactic in one of the most corrupt > countries on earth. > > > > But on FFL noone cares about facts as long as Great > Beings are portrayed in a bad ligh. > > Just ask Rick. > > > > I can't speak to the pedo stuff but I can state as a fact > that I have seen videos of him doing stage magic and passing > it off as miracles. If you are trained in stage magic you > actually see him doing the moves. That doesn't make > any case for him being a deviant but it sure makes him a > disreputable, dishonest person. I don't know how anyone can > counter argue that it really IS a miracle once this has been > exposed. > > Since this information is commonly available I am amazed > that people have the ability to keep up the pretense that he > was a special guy. I do understand the mindset a > bit. There is no amount of evidence that will change > some people's mind. I was stuck there about > Maharishi. > > I believe that people can function in different interesting > ways and of course we don't have much information at all > about variations of the human mind. But I have come to > the conclusion that the least likely place to find an > extraordinary mind will be among the self described > spiritual people. Now I am working backwards from > people doing extraordinary things as evidence of them being > special. Not the fanciful miracles but exceptional > abilities that I share the ordinary range of. > > And guys like Sai Baba understood this way of looking at > the evidence of specialness first before listening to them > telling you how special they are. The problem was that his > evidence was fraudulent. Simple as that. But he > was playing on a human tendency to want proof. Or more > likely the human tendency to want to believe that proof had > been given without doing the humbling heavy lifting to > really test the idea. Crack a 10 year old kid's magic > book. Watch the films. Realize that your search > for a special person must go on and you have more work to do > to find someone unique. You don't even have to be a trained magician to see the really sloppy sleight-of-hand. Look at the Youtube videos. Really ridiculous stuff. Also the pedo stuff is pretty well known and even acknowledged by his organization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Could he be both a pedophile fraud AND > a "planetary Avatar" Nabby? > > > > > > > > Ofcourse not. > > > > > > A miracle. Joe and Nabby are finally agreed. > > > > > > Since there is abundant evidence that Sai Baba > was > > > a pedophile fraud, > > snip > > > > > > Is that so ? Where is that "abundant evidence" ? > > Some films have been produced to try to disgrace Sai > Baba, a campaign to try to blackmail Him for money. > > A very common tactic in one of the most corrupt > countries on earth. > > > > But on FFL noone cares about facts as long as Great > Beings are portrayed in a bad ligh. > > Just ask Rick. > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak One less pedophile/fraudster in the system. But plenty more where he came from. Curtis knows a little magic. Curtis, can you grow an afro?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seventhray1 Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:01 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak I would recommend that it be removed. I don't think any association or implication of being a pedohphile is a good idea. Even worse is to actually be one, as evidence suggests Sai Baba is/was. Things tend to be more funny when a joke is on someone else. When someone's livlihood or even their pro bona activities involve association with school children then I don't think it's appropiate. Of course it was meant to be a joke. I don't think it worked. My point about Curtis wasn't a joke. I seriously think he should grow an afro, have his skin darkened, have any necessary plastic surgery performed, learn Hindi, then go to India, and when Sai Baba dies, arrange to have the death covered up, then emerge from the hospital looking like a 30-years-younger Sai Baba. The devotees will be ecstatic! Curtis is probably better than Sai Baba at sleight of hand, so the vibhuti and cheap trinkets will continue to manifest, and the critics will be relieved to discover that the new, improved Sai Baba has changed his preference from young boys to mature women. Maybe I am just being anal. No pun intended. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > I thought it was a joke, but for this comment - "But plenty more where > he came from". If its a joke please ignore, if not can you please care > to explain? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@ > wrote: > > > > > > This is what is called a stupid comment. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote: > > > But plenty more where he came from. Curtis knows a little magic. > > Curtis, can > > > you grow an afro? > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak
Hey, organize that and you could be the next spiritual billionaire. Satya Soul Baba with the Mo-town bhajans! From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 11:42:45 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seventhray1 Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:01 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba may croak I would recommend that it be removed. I don't think any association or implication of being a pedohphile is a good idea. Even worse is to actually be one, as evidence suggests Sai Baba is/was. Things tend to be more funny when a joke is on someone else. When someone's livlihood or even their pro bona activities involve association with school children then I don't think it's appropiate. Of course it was meant to be a joke. I don't think it worked. My point about Curtis wasn’t a joke. I seriously think he should grow an afro, have his skin darkened, have any necessary plastic surgery performed, learn Hindi, then go to India, and when Sai Baba dies, arrange to have the death covered up, then emerge from the hospital looking like a 30-years-younger Sai Baba. The devotees will be ecstatic! Curtis is probably better than Sai Baba at sleight of hand, so the vibhuti and cheap trinkets will continue to manifest, and the critics will be relieved to discover that the new, improved Sai Baba has changed his preference from young boys to mature women. Maybe I am just being anal. No pun intended. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > I thought it was a joke, but for this comment - "But plenty more where > he came from". If its a joke please ignore, if not can you please care > to explain? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@ > wrote: > > > > > > This is what is called a stupid comment. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote: > > > But plenty more where he came from. Curtis knows a little magic. > > Curtis, can > > > you grow an afro? > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba prediction on his death
What you see is what you get. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > I doubt that such persons can be called "Avatars"; although evil people can > apparently get Enlightened (and still continue with evil (a-Dharmic) acts.) > Some people still maintain that all acts by Enlightened people are "right" or > Dharmic. I disagree with that position, but either assertion is speculative. > Personally, I maintain that what we see - the superficial acts - require no > deeper metaphysical analysis bringing in such entities as the Gunas, Doer; > etc. A pedophile is simply a pedophile. > > http://robertpriddy.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/sai-baba-prediction-of-his-death/ >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba, R.I.P. April 24-th, 2011
I imagine his "kumkum" covered lingam was one of the first to go... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > "Multiple organ failure". Dead, thank "God"! > > http://www.theborneopost.com/?p=125975 >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba, R.I.P. April 24-th, 2011
Hey Joe I thought you like Curtis indulged in TM pedopharnelia only in the mornings. Looks like it's turning out to be a big addiction for you :-( --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > I imagine his "kumkum" covered lingam was one of the first to go... > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > > > "Multiple organ failure". Dead, thank "God"! > > > > http://www.theborneopost.com/?p=125975 > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba, R.I.P. April 24-th, 2011
Joe: > I imagine his "kumkum" covered lingam > was one of the first to go... > You seem to have a special interest in other people's sex life, or lack thereof. PRURIENT INTEREST: A morbid, degrading and unhealthy interest in sex, as distinguished from a mere candid interest in sex. http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/p106.htm
