RE: possible treatment for FeLV?

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Sorry, here's the link
http://www.newsagepress.com/petsatrisk.html


-Original Message-
From: Hideyo Yamamoto 
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 3:19 PM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: RE: possible treatment for FeLV?

Hi, I am not sure if any of you have heard about this - but one of my
ACs told me about this doctor and the treatment he offers - she told me
that no one could figure out what was wrong with her dog as all the
blood work and lab work came back normal, but he kept losing weight and
he was dying - anyway, she spent over $15,000 for his treatment and
nothing and nothing ever worked until she found out about this doctor
Alfred Plechner - he does Endocrine-Immune Therapy Program for dogs and
cats, which addresses disorders like allergies, epilepsy, viral
diseases, inflammatory bowel, autoimmunity, cancer and more - and Janet
(my AC) suggested that I read his book, so I did - and there is a
section of treating FeLV cats - he said he was able to save 85% of the
kitties he treated with his program (even the cases where some others
had given up for) - it uses (natural) cortisone and since I am very
conservation when coming to steroid use, I just was not sure - but if
you haven't heard, I thought it might be something that you might be
interested in finding out for your kitties.  I am sending a link below
in case you are interested in this.  They can do a blood test at a
selective lab (antech, and index??) to see if your kitty is a candidate
for this treatment - it's pretty exciting if it works - but you will
have to find a vet which will work on this program.

RE: possible treatment for FeLV?

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I am glad that you knew about the book and
support his program – 

I haven’t completed reading his book
yet, but is natural cortisone extracted from a plant??  Do you know if there
are any side effect for this?  I am definitely intrigued by it – I am
also a big admire of Dr.M Goldstein – 

Basically (to the list who may not be familiar
with approach) – what they believe in is that – virus itself does
not kill cats whether it’s FIP or FeLV or FIV for that matter – but
their compromised immune system does – that’s why some cats are
exposed to the same virus and may not be effected at all and some do – and
that’s why they feel that it’s important to build up their immune
system before they get too weak to fight off whatever they are fighting against
-

 









From:
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Subject: Re: possible treatment
for FeLV?



 



In a message dated
4/25/2005 5:21:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:





it uses (natural) cortisone 





I've been an ardent
follower of Dr.Plechner since reading his book, co-authored with Martin Zucker,
"Pet Allergies: Remedies for An Epidemic".





This is a must read for
ALL pet guardians.





Dr. Plechner's findings
are one of the many reasons I have supported dietary changes for my
"kids".





My personal vets have
been supportive of his work and have worked very closely with me with ALL the
issues I have encountered over the years with allergies, especially the food
allergies.





A very large part in my
decision to feed vegetarian and "natural" diets





 





A very interesting
fact, since we had just recently discussed Dr. Goldstein, is that he also is a
FIRM believer in treating the cats we presented to him with natural cortisone,
supplements and a dietary change.





 





In our cats (non
positive) that were treated by Dr. G. for various cancers, some very advanced,
some recently diagnosed, we had  "mixed" results as far as the
indiviual cats' response to treatment.





 





It is my personal
belief, that this is an avenue of treatment that should definitely be
considered.





 





I have been fortunate
to have vets that are 'open' to alternative treatment methods.





I am sure if any of you
on the list contacted The American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association,
they could direct you you to a certified holistic vet in your area.





 

RE: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Did you use clinic in house test or has it been sent to a lab?  I would
ask them to send it to a lab to make sure when you test her again, may
be?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

Gloria~~the test on one of my FeLV kittens wasn't dependable. Flavia
tested negative the day I met her--she was 14 weeks. The rescuer and I
were thrilled. A month later she was re-tested when she was spayed, and
she came up positive. We were devastated.  The vet had never said a word
about the possibility of a reversal in the test result. (She has also
re-tested positive again since then.) I've read since then that in
kittens the test doesn't necessarily reveal the presence of FeLV as soon
as it appears in the body, and that you need to re-test 3 months later.
Certainly Flavia's experience reflects this advice. Kerry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:29 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: need help - a negative, later positive - ?


I've got a question - our group took in a kitten from animal control , 8

weeks old, in May 2003.  He was tested for FELV/FIV (Elisa snap test)
in 
November 2003, and tested negative. We adopted him out about March 
2004.  The new owner just reported back that he was havine URI problems,

and he tested positive for FELV.

I've heard that tests on kittens aren't dependable.  Any insight into
this?

Gloria


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RE: Feline Interferon (omega)

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Ask your vet to call Nina's vet at 805-339-2290, CA (Michelle Rose) and
ask her to send a packet to your vet - all the forms are already
prepared for your vet to prepare for FDA, I understand.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:32 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Feline Interferon (omega) 

What is the latest re how to get Feline Interferon, btw?  I have a vet 
who's interested, if I know where to start. Do we go thru the
bureaucracy / 
FDA, or can we order from England, or what?

Gloria

RE: Ordering feline interferon

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Do I understand correctly one order (90 day) supply will cost $700?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Ordering feline interferon

I really don't know. The oncologist just ordered it and charged me after
it 
came in (a month after, actually).

Kyle, are you getting it? If you do, are you able to get an extra box to
send 
one back to me? I need one more in order to have one for each of my
three to 
get prior to moving 5 hours away in July (god willing they will still be

here).  If you can't, I can try to order more myself, and probably
should anyway.

Michelle


In a message dated 4/28/05 4:09:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< My vet pays them up front.  They have an insurance policy that covers


their outlay if there is a problem with delivery.  Of course, I don't 

think that covers confiscation at the border!  Your vet could call 

Michelle if the info's not in her packet.

Nina >>

RE: Back again for just a moment...

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, Steve,
It's so nice to hear from you.  I have been thinking of you and Loki and
Leeloo so very often after your posting when Loki crossed over.  I still
cry remembering what you wrote - "I loved Loki like there's no
tomorrow"

I wanted to talk to you so badly, but I also wanted to give you some
room and don't want to be pushy about it.  But because of my own
experience in this, I just have got to tell you about this in case you
are open to the idea.

I, through my animal communicator, was able to talk to one of my feral
boys who crossed the bridge due to a long term illness, and Suzi, whom I
lost after spaying surgery last year - again this is something I have
never done before, but I found such a peace in being able to communicate
the one I loved and still love.  I never found such a peace in mind by
losing someone I really love - I cried and I cried, but gave me a whole
different perspective of life and death - and I found out that the kitty
I lost was actually doing ok after he crossed over (I know it sounds a
bit weird - and Suzi was in someone's body now and she is having a happy
life with her new family right now -

I was wondering if you are open to the idea of speaking of Loki and
Leelo through an animal communicator - you may not believe in, but if
you are interested in, I would really love you to do so and you can
judge yourself if it's really Loki or Leeloo the one who is talking to
you - because you can find out by asking questions - I did myself.

Again, I can so feel your pain, as I go through every time I lose
someone of mine, too - I just know that Loki and Leeloo are watching
you, and loving you as you love them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Williams
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Back again for just a moment...

Hi all,

It's been awhile.  I have not been able to read the list.  The email
subject
lines alone have been too upsetting to me.  I am beginning to think I
will
never recover from the loss of Loki and Leeloo.

I wanted to send you a link to a kind of comic book story my niece
Alisha
wrote for her anthropology class.  It features her cats Mitas, Kaiya,
and
Dotty (these are also my sister Lynda's and niece Shawna's cats... the
first
bunch they rescued).  they lost Leeloo and Loki's siblings, Milo and
Abby to
FeLV... All listed on Belinda's CLS list).

Alisha is a bit of an artist. Click "Next" to view each page.

Enjoy,
  Steve

http://alisha.leafglow.com/gallery/gallery36.html

RE: My Baby Kitten DIED

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Dear Tad,

I am so very sorry to hear about your “Baby
Kitten” – she must have been, and still must be a very very special
kitty for you.  For that matter, any kitties are very special to me,
including your Baby Kitten.  Even the ones I never meet, I feel the same
way – they are all precious little miracles on earth!  I am so sorry
that I did not reply to you before.  Sometimes, it’s very painful to
continue to hear sad messages, and I choose not to read sometimes, but that’s
why we are here for – to support each other.  Please don’t
think that the lose of your Baby kitten was not in any way, less significant to
any of us than any of lose we experienced.

 

I do believe personally though, these
little lives will come back for a better life after they crossed over –
your Baby Kitten is right besides you probably, and loves you as she always has
– what does she look like, Tad?  I would still like to know more
about your special kitty, if it’s not too painful for you.

 

Again, thank you for sharing.

 

Hideyo

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tad Burnett
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005
4:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: My Baby Kitten DIED



 

 Yes...My little feral FeLV+ kitten died on March
30th...The same day as Steves kitty...
Her name was "Baby Kitten"I did post on here and I think 2 people
replyed...
She didn't make the CLS thoughMaybe I didn't come on here and cry about it
enough...But I..Like Steve still think of her and miss her and I guess if I
have to read
about Poor Steve every week maybe my kitty could at least be put on the CLS
list...
 
Baby Kitty was about 5 months old when she was trapped and tested pos...She was
partialy crippled when I got her and very small...She hated being in the cage
so much
that I let her out to run in the room with my other pos cats who are all very
tame...
She did eat well but not much of the wet food with the suppliments and until
she got
sick I wasn't able to catch her...About 2 weeks before she died I suringe feed
her
and put her on antibiotics...She bounced back and I thought I had saved
her...And
along with that I had tamed her into a real snuggle bug...I didn't have her
that long
but I had let myself think that she was going to be around for a while...
I lost 3 cats 12 - 14 years old last year but I think loosing the young kitty
that never
made it to her 1st birthday hurts just as much...
I have lost 3 other FeLV+ cats but I also have 8 alive and well that I saved
from being
PTS the day I brought them home...I guess thats why I keep going
 
Tad


Steve Williams wrote:



Hi all, It's been awhile.  I have not been able to read the list.  The email subjectlines alone have been too upsetting to me.  I am beginning to think I willnever recover from the loss of Loki and Leeloo. I wanted to send you a link to a kind of comic book story my niece Alishawrote for her anthropology class.  It features her cats Mitas, Kaiya, andDotty (these are also my sister Lynda's and niece Shawna's cats... the firstbunch they rescued).  they lost Leeloo and Loki's siblings, Milo and Abby toFeLV... All listed on Belinda's CLS list). Alisha is a bit of an artist. Click "Next" to view each page. Enjoy,  Steve http://alisha.leafglow.com/gallery/gallery36.html  

RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

When my kitties get really high fever, sometimes it's over 106 and last
for a few days - (which make them not want to eat naturally) - I have
used some homeopathic remedy, and worked like a miracle for some, let me
know if you are interested in or is on some things.

Hideyo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

Dear Belinda,

Please add my little Mikey, who is sick with a 105 degree fever, isn't
eating or drinking, and whose usually high energy level is way down.

(I took him to the vet earlier this afternoon--wonderful man!)


Leah Wolf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:10 PM
To: FeLV Talk List [New]
Subject: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Hi All,
  I pray all the furries that aren't feeling well will feel better soon.
Here is this weeks service, take care all :)

FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls

-- 
 Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

RE: need help - a negative, later positive - ?

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Good for you and Lucky – I think
Lucky is living up to the expectation of his name – though I am sure that
it’s not just a luck, but lots of TLC from you and his family – I hope
he will continue to live happily and healthfully hereafter - 

 









From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:58 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: need help - a
negative, later positive - ?



 





Gloria:





I'm an old member, but don't get here as often as I'd
like... or should.. but heres our experience. We found Lucky, at about 5 weeks
old, the result of a "hit and run". She survived the weekend in
the ER and the next Monday went to our vet for further evaluation and testing.
She tested negative for everything. She was healthy for the next FOUR YEARS
until she was infected with Haemobartonella and could not seem to fight it off.
The (new) vet retested her and she tested positive for FeLV. She had not been
exposed to any other positives, so the vet says she probably had it since
birth. She says babies should not be tested that young as the test is
unreliable. 





 





PS..Lucky is now 6 years old, and is still healthy..
although we are always on guard.





 





Jo





__





In a message dated 4/6/2005 10:28:59 AM Eastern Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





I've got a question - our group took in a kitten from animal
control , 8 
weeks old, in May 2003.  He was tested for FELV/FIV (Elisa snap
test)  in 
November 2003, and tested negative. We adopted him out about March 
2004.  The new owner just reported back that he was havine URI problems, 
and he tested positive for FELV.

I've heard that tests on kittens aren't dependable.  Any insight into
this?

Gloria

RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, Lean, I have to ask a couple of questions -
Is he on any drugs right now?
How long has he had fever now?
Does he have any additional symptoms other than fever (not including
less of appetite since it usually comes with high fever) -
What type of personally doe your kitty have? Affectionate? Likes to be
alone? (I know it's a weird question, but it matters in the remedy)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

Hideyo, I'd be interested in the homeopathic remedy for high fevers.


Leah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


When my kitties get really high fever, sometimes it's over 106 and last
for a few days - (which make them not want to eat naturally) - I have
used some homeopathic remedy, and worked like a miracle for some, let me
know if you are interested in or is on some things.

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

Dear Belinda,

Please add my little Mikey, who is sick with a 105 degree fever, isn't
eating or drinking, and whose usually high energy level is way down.

(I took him to the vet earlier this afternoon--wonderful man!)


Leah Wolf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:10 PM
To: FeLV Talk List [New]
Subject: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Hi All,
  I pray all the furries that aren't feeling well will feel better soon.
Here is this weeks service, take care all :)

FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls

-- 
 Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

RE: for Leah---CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, Leah, I am catching up with your other emails which gave me more
information -

I personally suggest that you give your cat fluid right away, hydration
is such a critical factor and you don't want wait too long with these
guys without any fluid in it - if you don't know how, your vet can show
you - it also helps brings the fever down sooner by giving him fluid.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: for Leah---CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

The vet did not give Mikey fluids; the purpose of the stuff injected was
to bring his fever down and deal with any infection so he would regain
energy and interest in his food and water.  Yes, that is why the vet
wants to hear from me again.

Kerry, it's not only the ferals who don't like being messed with!  Mikey
was most unhappy about having his temperature taken twice.  His little
claws are as sharp as needles.


Leah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: for Leah---CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Thanks for the update on Mikey Leah. Did he get fluids to hydrate him,
or is that partly why the vet wants to hear from you tomorrow--to see if
he's drinking again?
I'm still learning, and I've never used Flocillin or Dypivone (but I've
given plenty fluids -- NO fun at all when they're feral as my FeLV brood
are). 
Kerry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:56 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Thanks to those who sent healing messages.

The vet gave Mikey a thorough physical examination and stool check and
found nothing organically wrong with him.  He told me that it is typical
of the positive condition for a cat to run a high fever from time to
time, on the order of a roller coaster effect.  The lack of appetite and
energy are direct results.  He gave him shots of Flocillin and Dypivone,
along with Clovamax drops for me to administer for the next 7 days.   He
directed me to call him in 24 to 36 hours to let him know how Mikey is
doing.

I am glad that I didn't wait any longer to take him to the vet since he
was beginning to become dehydrated and had lost a pound and a half in
the past two weeks, which is a lot for a nine pound cat.



Leah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Leah,
Sending healing thoughts for little Mikey. I hope the vet had some ways
to help him, and he feels better very soon. When you get time, let us
know how he's doing. Kerry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Dear Belinda,

Please add my little Mikey, who is sick with a 105 degree fever, isn't
eating or drinking, and whose usually high energy level is way down.

(I took him to the vet earlier this afternoon--wonderful man!)


Leah Wolf
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:10 PM
To: FeLV Talk List [New]
Subject: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Hi All,
  I pray all the furries that aren't feeling well will feel better soon.
Here is this weeks service, take care all :)

FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls

-- 
 Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

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RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, Leah,
Try to use the remedy called "Pustilla" - When my ginger (FeLV+) had a
fever, this worked like a miracle and also some others -
If the fever just started, you might want to try "aconite" first, but if
the ever is there more than a few days, aconite might not be the right
remedy - 

You can get it at a health store - I usually put a several pallet in the
syringe and water, and dissolve it first, and then put it in her/his
mouth.

If Pustilla does not work - you also may want to try "surphur" - 

Do you have an easy access to these remedies? If not, let me know. I can
ship you for you if you just give me an address.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

Hideyo,

Mikey is not on any drugs, has had the loss of appetite for at least a
week, the downturn in energy for two weeks.  His only other symptoms are
occasional sneezing and vomiting (that very recently).  He is a high
energy, playful, affectionate cat.  He prefers companionship, rather
than being alone.  

For what it's worth, he is about a year and a half old.


Leah
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Hi, Lean, I have to ask a couple of questions -
Is he on any drugs right now?
How long has he had fever now?
Does he have any additional symptoms other than fever (not including
less of appetite since it usually comes with high fever) -
What type of personally doe your kitty have? Affectionate? Likes to be
alone? (I know it's a weird question, but it matters in the remedy)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

Hideyo, I'd be interested in the homeopathic remedy for high fevers.


Leah
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


When my kitties get really high fever, sometimes it's over 106 and last
for a few days - (which make them not want to eat naturally) - I have
used some homeopathic remedy, and worked like a miracle for some, let me
know if you are interested in or is on some things.

Hideyo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

Dear Belinda,

Please add my little Mikey, who is sick with a 105 degree fever, isn't
eating or drinking, and whose usually high energy level is way down.

(I took him to the vet earlier this afternoon--wonderful man!)


Leah Wolf
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:10 PM
To: FeLV Talk List [New]
Subject: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Hi All,
  I pray all the furries that aren't feeling well will feel better soon.
Here is this weeks service, take care all :)

FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls

-- 
 Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

RE: for Leah---CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I know what you mean - I get so nervous from the night or day before the
appointment, and can't sleep because I know it's going to stress my
babies out so much!!

I just had to take one of my very very first feral in US, Hannibal to
the vet - I just wrapped him with a huge blanket over him and put him in
a carrier - but he did very well - poor baby - he had been urinating
with blood - and he was in such a pain and he almost blocked!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: for Leah---CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Biggest problem with the ferals is catching them -it's taken 45 minutes
of chasing the poor cat in question around the room, and the last thing
they need with FeLV is the associated stress! Then they have to be held
down. I dread the next time! 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: for Leah---CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


The vet did not give Mikey fluids; the purpose of the stuff injected was
to bring his fever down and deal with any infection so he would regain
energy and interest in his food and water.  Yes, that is why the vet
wants to hear from me again.

Kerry, it's not only the ferals who don't like being messed with!  Mikey
was most unhappy about having his temperature taken twice.  His little
claws are as sharp as needles.


Leah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: for Leah---CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Thanks for the update on Mikey Leah. Did he get fluids to hydrate him,
or is that partly why the vet wants to hear from you tomorrow--to see if
he's drinking again?
I'm still learning, and I've never used Flocillin or Dypivone (but I've
given plenty fluids -- NO fun at all when they're feral as my FeLV brood
are). 
Kerry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:56 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Thanks to those who sent healing messages.

The vet gave Mikey a thorough physical examination and stool check and
found nothing organically wrong with him.  He told me that it is typical
of the positive condition for a cat to run a high fever from time to
time, on the order of a roller coaster effect.  The lack of appetite and
energy are direct results.  He gave him shots of Flocillin and Dypivone,
along with Clovamax drops for me to administer for the next 7 days.   He
directed me to call him in 24 to 36 hours to let him know how Mikey is
doing.

I am glad that I didn't wait any longer to take him to the vet since he
was beginning to become dehydrated and had lost a pound and a half in
the past two weeks, which is a lot for a nine pound cat.



Leah
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Leah,
Sending healing thoughts for little Mikey. I hope the vet had some ways
to help him, and he feels better very soon. When you get time, let us
know how he's doing. Kerry
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Dear Belinda,

Please add my little Mikey, who is sick with a 105 degree fever, isn't
eating or drinking, and whose usually high energy level is way down.

(I took him to the vet earlier this afternoon--wonderful man!)


Leah Wolf
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:10 PM
To: FeLV Talk List [New]
Subject: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Hi All,
  I pray all the furries that aren't feeling well will feel better soon.
Here is this weeks service, take care all :)

FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls

-- 
 Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

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RE: Mikey - Holistic remedies

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

And, also, they are not supposed to eat food for 15 mins. Prior/after
giving the remedy - if you give a dose, and it does not work, you might
try the 2nd after 12 hours, and if it doesn't - try the next remedy.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Mikey - Holistic remedies

Leah,
I don't know where you're located, but if there is a Whole Foods Market 
near you, they carry a really good supply of Holistic remedies.  I try 
to use the little "sugar" tablets instead of the "bead" type remedies, 
(sorry, I don't know enough about them to all them by their proper 
name).  The "bead" type ones (in the blue cylinders), take a long time 
to melt in water.  I haven't really had that much luck with using them, 
(I tried them for my IBD kitty), but I kind of squeezed the syringe tip 
gently between teeth and cheek and slowly let it accumulate.  The 
remedies aren't supposed to be swallowed or chewed, they're supposed to 
melt under your tongue.
Nina

Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

>Hi, Leah,
>Try to use the remedy called "Pustilla" - When my ginger (FeLV+) had a
>fever, this worked like a miracle and also some others -
>If the fever just started, you might want to try "aconite" first, but
if
>the ever is there more than a few days, aconite might not be the right
>remedy - 
>
>You can get it at a health store - I usually put a several pallet in
the
>syringe and water, and dissolve it first, and then put it in her/his
>mouth.
>
>If Pustilla does not work - you also may want to try "surphur" - 
>
>Do you have an easy access to these remedies? If not, let me know. I
can
>ship you for you if you just give me an address.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:46 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005
>
>Hideyo,
>
>Mikey is not on any drugs, has had the loss of appetite for at least a
>week, the downturn in energy for two weeks.  His only other symptoms
are
>occasional sneezing and vomiting (that very recently).  He is a high
>energy, playful, affectionate cat.  He prefers companionship, rather
>than being alone.  
>
>For what it's worth, he is about a year and a half old.
>
>
>Leah
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:41 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005
>
>
>Hi, Lean, I have to ask a couple of questions -
>Is he on any drugs right now?
>How long has he had fever now?
>Does he have any additional symptoms other than fever (not including
>less of appetite since it usually comes with high fever) -
>What type of personally doe your kitty have? Affectionate? Likes to be
>alone? (I know it's a weird question, but it matters in the remedy)
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:34 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005
>
>Hideyo, I'd be interested in the homeopathic remedy for high fevers.
>
>
>Leah
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:31 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005
>
>
>When my kitties get really high fever, sometimes it's over 106 and last
>for a few days - (which make them not want to eat naturally) - I have
>used some homeopathic remedy, and worked like a miracle for some, let
me
>know if you are interested in or is on some things.
>
>Hideyo
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:52 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005
>
>Dear Belinda,
>
>Please add my little Mikey, who is sick with a 105 degree fever, isn't
>eating or drinking, and whose usually high energy level is way down.
>
>(I took him to the vet earlier this afternoon--wonderful man!)
>
>
>Leah Wolf
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
>Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:10 PM
>To: FeLV Talk List [New]
>Subject: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005
>
>
>Hi All,
>  I pray all the furries that aren't feeling well will feel better
soon.
>Here is this weeks service, take care all :)
>
>FeLV Candle Light Service
>http://www.bemikitties.com/cls
>
>  
>

RE: Hideyo and Leah CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Thank you, Kerry - you know me with the spelling - yes I meant "Sulphur"
- Sulphur is such an amazing remedy - I can't begin to express how
grateful I am to this remedy - anyway, when the fever is caused by some
type of virus and caused by the compromised immune system, and can't get
rid of the fever, this remedy has worked really well for many of my cats
- different books may suggest different things - I do read them, but
this is something that I was directly recommended by my holistic vet who
saved many of my cats lives - Sulphur and Silicia, and Pulstilla are
something that I always make sure to have enough of them since they are
very multi-dimensional as a treatment - 

Hideyo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Hideyo and Leah CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


>>>If Pustilla does not work - you also may want to try "surphur" <<< 
Hideyo, just a thought--d'you mean "sulphur/sulfur"?
(We had a problem with a "sulfur" paint color recently -- no one could
find on the paint website because it was spelt wrong!) Kerry

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Hi, Leah,
Try to use the remedy called "Pustilla" - When my ginger (FeLV+) had a
fever, this worked like a miracle and also some others -
If the fever just started, you might want to try "aconite" first, but if
the ever is there more than a few days, aconite might not be the right
remedy - 

You can get it at a health store - I usually put a several pallet in the
syringe and water, and dissolve it first, and then put it in her/his
mouth.

If Pustilla does not work - you also may want to try "surphur" - 

Do you have an easy access to these remedies? If not, let me know. I can
ship you for you if you just give me an address.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

Hideyo,

Mikey is not on any drugs, has had the loss of appetite for at least a
week, the downturn in energy for two weeks.  His only other symptoms are
occasional sneezing and vomiting (that very recently).  He is a high
energy, playful, affectionate cat.  He prefers companionship, rather
than being alone.  

For what it's worth, he is about a year and a half old.


Leah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Hi, Lean, I have to ask a couple of questions -
Is he on any drugs right now?
How long has he had fever now?
Does he have any additional symptoms other than fever (not including
less of appetite since it usually comes with high fever) -
What type of personally doe your kitty have? Affectionate? Likes to be
alone? (I know it's a weird question, but it matters in the remedy)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

Hideyo, I'd be interested in the homeopathic remedy for high fevers.


Leah
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


When my kitties get really high fever, sometimes it's over 106 and last
for a few days - (which make them not want to eat naturally) - I have
used some homeopathic remedy, and worked like a miracle for some, let me
know if you are interested in or is on some things.

Hideyo
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

Dear Belinda,

Please add my little Mikey, who is sick with a 105 degree fever, isn't
eating or drinking, and whose usually high energy level is way down.

(I took him to the vet earlier this afternoon--wonderful man!)


Leah Wolf
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:10 PM
To: FeLV Talk List [New]
Subject: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Hi All,
  I pray all the furries that aren't feeling well will feel better soon.
Here is this weeks service, take care all :)

FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls

-- 
 Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats .

RE: Brissle is gone...

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Kyle, I am sincerely sorry about Brissle –
and thank you for taking so good care of Brissle and loving her as you did.  I
do believe that though her soul is out of her body now, her soul is still with
you – she is watching over you and Squermie.

 

Love and hugs,

 

Hideyo

 









From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of tamara stickler
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:15
AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Brissle is gone...



 



Kyle,





 





I'm so sorry about Brissle.  She was SO lucky to have you &
Squermie...and I'm sure she knew it.  So many humans are never lucky
enough to know the kind of love you gave her.





 





God Bless you all.





T

Melbeach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:





The day I've been
dreading finally came. Last night Brissle left me. It got to
the point where she couldn't move on her own. I thought about another blood
transfusion. But I just didn't have the heart to put her through another
cycle. We already made our peace. I made it a point the last couple of days to
spend every minute with her. I think she was hanging on just for me. So now
it's just me and Squermie. I think he's finally starting to figure it out.
It's hard, but I'm trying to stay positive. I am eternally grateful to all of
you on Felvtalk for your caring support. You guys really are the best.

-Kyle






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RE: Hideyo and Leah CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Yes!  Sorry for the typo again.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:40 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Hideyo and Leah CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

Hideyo,

Do you mean Pulsatilla?


Leah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:20 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Hideyo and Leah CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Thanks Hideyo. That's pretty good to know. I need to look at these.
Kerry
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Hideyo and Leah CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Thank you, Kerry - you know me with the spelling - yes I meant
"Sulphur"- Sulphur is such an amazing remedy - I can't begin to express
how grateful I am to this remedy - anyway, when the fever is caused by
some type of virus and caused by the compromised immune system, and
can't get rid of the fever, this remedy has worked really well for many
of my cats - different books may suggest different things - I do read
them, but this is something that I was directly recommended by my
holistic vet who
saved many of my cats lives - Sulphur and Silicia, and Pulstilla are
something that I always make sure to have enough of them since they are
very multi-dimensional as a treatment - 

Hideyo
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Hideyo and Leah CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


>>>If Pustilla does not work - you also may want to try "surphur" <<< 
Hideyo, just a thought--d'you mean "sulphur/sulfur"? (We had a problem
with a "sulfur" paint color recently -- no one could find on the paint
website because it was spelt wrong!) Kerry
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Hi, Leah,
Try to use the remedy called "Pustilla" - When my ginger (FeLV+) had a
fever, this worked like a miracle and also some others - If the fever
just started, you might want to try "aconite" first, but if the ever is
there more than a few days, aconite might not be the right remedy - 

You can get it at a health store - I usually put a several pallet in the
syringe and water, and dissolve it first, and then put it in her/his
mouth.

If Pustilla does not work - you also may want to try "surphur" - 

Do you have an easy access to these remedies? If not, let me know. I can
ship you for you if you just give me an address.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

Hideyo,

Mikey is not on any drugs, has had the loss of appetite for at least a
week, the downturn in energy for two weeks.  His only other symptoms are
occasional sneezing and vomiting (that very recently).  He is a high
energy, playful, affectionate cat.  He prefers companionship, rather
than being alone.  

For what it's worth, he is about a year and a half old.


Leah
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:41 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


Hi, Lean, I have to ask a couple of questions -
Is he on any drugs right now?
How long has he had fever now?
Does he have any additional symptoms other than fever (not including
less of appetite since it usually comes with high fever) -
What type of personally doe your kitty have? Affectionate? Likes to be
alone? (I know it's a weird question, but it matters in the remedy)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005

Hideyo, I'd be interested in the homeopathic remedy for high fevers.


Leah
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: CLS - Monday May 2, 2005


When my kitties get really high fever, sometimes it's over 106 and last
for a few days - (which make them not want to eat naturally) - I have
used some homeopathic remedy, and worked like a miracle for some, let me
know if you are interested in or is on some things.

Hideyo
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Mikey

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Leah, I am so sorry -  it's just too sad - I am crying with you. 
Please know Leah that his soul is right besides you still - so, please
don't be lonely - you may not be able to see him, but he can see you and
he feels your love and sorrow - 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:31 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Mikey

Dear Everybody,

This is to let you know that Mikey has joined his brothers in cat
heaven.  He did not respond to Monday's treatments, so the vet gave him
a substantial amount of fluid yesterday evening, which revived him and I
became hopeful that the dehydration was his only problem.  However, the
revival did not last and he died in the early hours of this morning.
The vet has determined that, based on the array of symptoms, Mikey had
an underlying liver problem and most likely a variety of organic issues
resulting from that.  So the real problem was not the dehydration and
lack of interest in eating.  These were results of the liver problem.

Belinda, please add Mikey to next week's Candlelight Service.

Many thanks to all who contributed healing messages and specific
suggestions for caring for an FELV+ cat.

We still have Bubba, our 4 year old boy, who is going strong, to console
us.


Leah

RE: Need prayers and advice for Ginger

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Michelle,
I agree with Nina - I know it's not an easy thing to do, but try to
relax and don't think of the worse case scenario - I also have a cat who
is felV positive, whose name is Ginger - when stops eating which has
happened in the past, I just freak out and think of the worst case
scenario - but sometimes they just need a little time to deal with
whatever is going on - 

Michelle, I have suggested this to other people - why don't you consider
talking to Ginger through an animal communicator to find out what's
going on - and why she is not eating and how she is feeling - you might
be surprised what they can do for you - I was able to find a problem
with no vets could with my animal communicator for my cat, Simon and OB
- 

Also, if you want to try homeopathic remedy, I have some recommendations
as well - does she not have a high fever at all?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger

Michelle,
Try not to freak out. 
- She could be dealing with something that with the help of your good 
care and the VO, she'll fight off.  No one is hungry when they don't 
feel well.
- Don't automatically assume that the "little something" with her lymph 
node is anything more than fat.  Your radiologist said fat "frequently 
collects there, didn't he? 
- Her gums being inflamed is not unusual if she's not feeling well, when

my cats are not feeling well it's the first symptom to flare up. 
- My animals are almost always uncharacteristically nasty to anyone who 
comes home smelling like the dreaded vet's office, Lucy was probably 
reacting to the way Ginger smelled and to Ginger's stress. 
- Give her some space and let her recover from her ordeal.  She may be 
more willing to let you give her fluids when she's calmer.  I wouldn't 
put her through it, unless you think it's critical. 

I have complete confidence in your doing whatever is necessary to 
administer to Ginger.  Try very hard to RELAX.  I understand completely 
why you're so upset, there isn't a caring human alive that would not be 
anxious given what you've been through.  It will however, not help you, 
or any of your family to lose it now.  Please think positively. 

Write to me off list with your address so I can send you 'Kyle's box' of

VO.  Hang in there, we're with you.
Sending you, Ginger and everyone else love and support.  Please keep us 
informed.

Much love,
Nina


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Ginger, my 6 year old positive, did not seem to want to eat last night
and 
>this morning at 6 am licked her lips when I gave her baby food and only
ate a 
>few licks-- she would normally go crazy for it.  I took her in to the
emergency 
>room. Her blood work was all normal except her protein was a little
high.  Her 
>xrays were normal except there was a little something showing where the
lymph 
>node in the chest is. The radiologist said it is either fat, which
frequently 
>collects there and Ginger is fat, or the beginnings of an enlarged
lymph node 
>there which could indicate lymphoma.  Her gums are super-inflamed and
her 
>teeth in terrible shape.  They gave me antibiotics for her mouth, gave
her Pepcid 
>before we left, and said to give her fluids. They chipped some of the
stuff 
>off her teeth. She was very stressed while there.
>
>Upon coming home she ate a jar of baby food.  My cat Lucy then started 
>viciously attacking her-- which she has never done, and Ginger has been
hiding from 
>her.  I gave her a vial of feline interferon for the first time, have
an 
>ultrasound scheduled for Monday if she does not get better, and am
praying. I tried 
>to give her fluids and she turned into a wildebeast-- I have given many
cats 
>fluids in my life, and Gray was helping, and we could not get more than
10 ml 
>or so into her.  I tried giving her more food, including more baby
food, and 
>she would not eat it. Actually, she tried a few licks of baby food and
then 
>started moving her mouth and throat funny like it was stuck in her
mouth or 
>throat, which of course is impossible with baby food, and then she
walked away.  
>She played with me a little, but is not herself at all.  She does not
have 
>diarrhea. She is a little dehydrated, which I guess I will try to fix
by getting 
>more baby food in her since I can not get fluids into her.
>
>If anyone thinks this sounds familiar and has any idea what is going
on, 
>please tell me.  I hope it is not lymphoma, and to tell the truth it
seems odd to 
>me that beginning stages of lymphoma in the chest would make her not
want to 
>eat.  Please send prayers and energy.
>
>Thanks,
>Michelle
>
>
>
>  
>

RE: False Positive

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

When you re-test him again, you might want to ask them to do IFA test
regardless of the result from ELISA -

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Lowe
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 2:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: False Positive

She might have tested postive because she had been exposed to
Smeagol(sharing litter boxes, mutual cleaning) but now has shed the
virus.
be sure to read all the info and links on the leukemia website. It can
be
very scary to face but with information you will feel more confident. I
would think the vet would wait 3 months before retesting. Which test did
the
vet give her? Was Moxie a litter mate to Smeagol?  I am so sorry you
lost
him. We all here on this list know how crappy this virus is and have
faced
losses of our furkids also. Try to take some comfort that Smeagol is now
pain free and now running and playing beyond the Rainbow bridge. I would
suggest you go thru the archives for info on supplements and vitamins
for
Moxie--I have a mixed household-only one postive now and 6 negatives.
One of
my other cats was a positive but after several years of MegaPlus vitamin
C,
vit E and feeding him a better quality diet of canned food like
Wellness,
Eagle brand holistic, Petguard NOT grocery store stuff, he tested
negative.
surprised the heck out of my vet. I would also suggest you go to the
www.holisticat.com website and scroll thru their archives for info.
Welcome
to the group--you will find very supportive people. it might just be
quiet
during this mother's day weekend but I am sure others will email you.
Barbara
- Original Message -
From: "Dawn Ritzke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:51 PM
Subject: False Positive


> About 3 weeks ago my 10 month old kitty, Smeagol, died from feline
leukemia.
>   I was unaware he even had leukemia.  The vet never checked him for
> leukemia.  At that time I had my other kitten, Moxie retested.  She
was
> tested at birth and was negative.  Three weeks ago she came back
positive.
> I recently had her retested again and this time she came back
negative.  I
> am going to have her tested again in one month.  She is very healthy.
I
> understand the chance of a false positive is about 3%.  I am not very
> familar with feline leukemia.  Does anyone have any advice or
suggestions.
>
> _
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>

RE: Need prayers and advice for Ginger

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Yeah, 102.3 is not that high at all - my Ginger had a slight fever
(about the same as your Ginger) when she did not eat for a week - 

I have tried some homeopathic remedy called Pulsatilla and Sulphur with
Ginger and really worked very well for her, she started eating right
away (also I gave her a shot of V-B12, too) 

In case you decide to want to talk to an AC so that you can find out
what's going on Ginger, I am going to leave my AC, Janet's phone number
- again you may be surprised what she can tell you (410-664-9960) - 

I will pray that your Ginger will get better very very soon - again, not
to be too worried - she will bounce back with no time like my Ginger did
- (Ginger is a great name, isn't it?)

Hideyo & Ginger

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 5:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger

Thanks, Hideyo. She had a mild fever at teh vet's, 102.3, but they said
that 
is the level the temp normally goes up to from stress. any suggestions?
Michelle


In a message dated 5/6/05 6:47:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< 

Also, if you want to try homeopathic remedy, I have some recommendations
as well - does she not have a high fever at all? >>

RE: Akira

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, I am the one who emailed you the number
of AC, Janet.  I am glad that you had a chance to speak with Akira via
Janet – 

And I am praying every single minute for Akira’s
peace and safety in your arm – that you and Akira can and will spend for
the rest of all the time you will have together with no pain, but just lots of
love and peace ---

 

Hugs and love

 

Hideyo

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 11:56
AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Akira



 



Thank you everyone for all your prayers,





Akira is resting peacefully on my bed
right now, very calm and sereneshe is dyingwe have decided to let her
go on her own





 





They got the blood results on her back
Saturday..but they were incomplete...the CBC was missing...the results were so
scewed and far fetched teh tech's at the lab didn't think they were right so
they were waiting until Monday (today) to have a Pathologist review them. 
Akira's vet called them adn asked for the numbers anyways...her white cell
count was 400,000!  and her lymphocytes (sp) were high tooshe has
cancer...so that is what caused her to quit eating...well...her liver
values are 16 times  normal.and she is hypothyroid (I think that is
the one..it is the one cats dont usually get)   she is in liver
failure(fatty liver ) from not eatingthe vet said that in healthy (non
FeLV+) cats the survival rate is 70% with intensive carefor just teh fatty
liver alone (in the stage she was in)  and by that she meant a permanent
feeding tube, 8 months or more of feeding her 6-10 times a day, and fighting
any infection she would get from the feeding tube.but then on top of that
she has cancer..somewhere...and we would have to find and treat that as well..so
ultrasounds, x rays, biopsies...to even see if the cancer is treatableplus
the treatment/surgery IF it wasPLUS the Fatty liver...PLUS  the FeLV.and she
probally wouldn't make it anyways...not to mention the tourture of all those
procedures,a nd staying at teh vets office for a least another week...I decided
to bring her home.What made it so much worse is I had to work this
weekend..from 7 30 am until 10 pm both Saturday adn Sunday..so I got to hardley
spend any time with her until today





So thank you whoever sent the number for
Janet the ACI called her adn she spoke with Akira...Akira does NOT want to
go to the vet..nor does she want any help...right now...she wants to go at home
with us around...so so be itShe wants to live every remaining minute of her
life in peace and home...Janet was complelty amazed at how powerful,
beautifull, nad strong Akira's soul was.  Which was comforting..but not a
surprise..as many others (amature) have said the same things...Janet says she
has only encountered a few other Angelic Beings in physical forms before...and
Akira is one of them..





 





So just an update on her..and how things
are going...she is calm, not in pain, and peaceful, and ready to go...she
understands what is happening, and is ready for itPlease pray for her,and
send all the suppportiive energy you can to herIprobally wont be on for a
few days at least...but thank you to everyone who prayed for her, gave m,e info
when I first found her, and was  a shoulder to cry on...you are all some
of the best friends Ive ever had the pleasure of knowing





Lisa and
the furbrats
Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza

RE: False Positive

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, Bonnie,

How was Henry Lee when you first found
him?  He was three years old when you first found him?  Did he look very
healthy?  

And how old was the kitten? And how old
was the kitten when you first found him? 

 

I just trapped a boy kitty who was tested
negative on all the virus and his blood work came back just as perfect –
but I think he might be Ginger’s brother, who was tested positive on FeLV
– because of what did happened to Little Henry Lee, and someone else I
knew – I did not know how careful I had to be integrating this cute boy
(I think, I am going to name him, Stanly) to the feLV negative group in my
house – I know what happened to Little Henry was very rare – but still
it does happen – since I have so many cats in the house, I really have to
be careful who to add and who not to – I also hear that testing bone
marrow is pretty invasive on a kitty, and I did not want to do that this little
Stanly – but every time I hear the story like little Henry Lee, it makes
me think twice about introducing someone new to the group since I don’t
vaccinate any of my other kitties.

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 5:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: False Positive



 



We have been on this list a long time  It's still the best
too.





 





t

BONNIE J KALMBACH
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Tonya,
Yes, this was back in '97. They all had French names, but were all 
three years old. Little Henry Lee, who I found by a dumpster in 
Mississippi,
was the positive one, and a kitten. None of the others 
were vaccinated and Henry proved to be a false negative, which is said 
to be a rare occurrence. I had called my vet from the road and said I 
wanted him tested as soon as possible. I isolated him in the bathroom 
and rushed him off for a test the same afternoon I got home with him. 
I was so happy when he first tested negative. A year later he had a 
dental and began to go downhill. That's when they found he had the 
virus in his bone marrow and was positive all along. 


I think at the time, the vaccinations were said to do more harm than 
good if one had indoor cats whose chances of exposure were rare - or 
maybe that was my vet's advice. As soon as Henry was found to be 
positive, all of the others were vaccinated with no harmful effects, 
even my tiny Sylvie who was born with hypernatremia.

I left that clinic because they weren't very good, to put it mildly. 
Later I heard that a lot of other clients also left as well as the 
most of the staff. Then the owner became very ill and had to be 
hospitalized - maybe stress contributed to it.

I don't have any positives any more, but since this list is so 
helpful, and FELV kitties do tend to be more susceptible to other 
illnesses, I've stayed on to learn things and share what I know.

Litte orange Henry Lee was so cute. If I had another kitty in my lap, 
Henry would climb in right on top of him or her and curl up to sleep. 
The kitty on the bottom would sort of slide out from underneath and 
wake up looking like "what happened?"

Bonnie with seven kitties and two pups


www.elephants.com

- Original Message -
From: catatonya 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sunday, May 8, 2005 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: False Positive

> Bonnie,
> 
> I remember when all of this happened. : ( I don't remember 
> though if they had all been vaccinated? Also, weren't they 
> kittens? I am remembering they were born in a closet and all had 
> French names? It's been a while, and my memory's not what it used 
> to be!
> 
> tonya
> 
> BONNIE J KALMBACH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Dawn,
> Here is some anecdotal evidence: my kitty, Claudette and my other 
> kitties were exposed to a positive kitty, my little Henry Lee, 
> whose 
> virus had activated. I had them all tested and Claudette was one 
> of 
> those exposed to Henry who became positive. I lost all of my 
> positive 
> kitties, but Claudette. She "threw off" the virus, and has
tested 
> negative ever since.
> 
> Bonnie
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Dawn Ritzke 
> Date: Friday, May 6, 2005 2:51 pm
> Subject: False Positive
> 
> > About 3 weeks ago my 10 month old kitty, Smeagol, died from 
> feline 
> > leukemia. 
> > I was unaware he even had leukemia. The vet never checked him 
> > for 
> > leukemia. At that time I had my other kitten, Moxie retested. 
> > She was 
> > tested at birth and was negative. Three weeks ago she came back 
> > positive. 
> > I recently had her retested again and this time she came back 
> > negative. I 
> > am going to have her tested again in one month. She is very 
> > healthy. I 
> > understand the chance of a false positive is about 3%. I am not 
> > very 
> > familar with feline leukemia. Does anyone have any advice or 
> > suggestions.
> > _
> > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus

RE: Ginger

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Title: Message








Dear Lisa, I had a chance to talk to Janet
(AC) – she mentioned to me how impressed she was with Akira’s
emotional and mental strength – sometimes we underestimated how strong
and supportive they can be for us – for obvious reasons, we just don’t
know about it – I am thinking of you and Akira –

 

And, Michelle, I am thinking of you and
Ginger - 

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:44
AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Ginger



 



Dear Lisa





Just want you to know you and Akira are
in my thoughts constantly. I'm praying for the time you have left to be a
peaceful one. much love and many hugs to you both, Kerry 

-Original
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:39
AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re:Ginger





Michelle,





I hope Ginger's only problem is her
mouth...Prayers to her and you that's all it is..and she will start eating
again...is the vet having you force feed her for now..I am so beyond paranoid
now about fatty liver,..,...please dont let her go without food for a single
day..Poor Akira might have had a chance to beat the cancer if it wasn't for the
fatty liver on top of it all...





 





Lisa
and the furbrats
Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza



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RE: Akira..and Janet

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Janet, once told me that – once you
learned to speak with your animals in the way they do – you will develop
a whole different perception about life and death – death does not seem
to be so far away, as the soul continues to live whether as a soul or someone
else’s body – and I find much peace in it – Obviously, regardless
of the physical condition of Akira, her soul is as strong and alert as it can
be and I find it very comforting to know that – 

 

I know – I try to be selective as to
whom I recommend about AC – as some people think I am a nut – but you
just have to experience it to believe it – she also help finding lost
animals and I find it critical to have her in my life as I have so many animals
–

 

Hugs and love to you, Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anz

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005
10:35 AM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Akira..and Janet



 







In a message dated 5/11/2005 12:01:03
P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:






Dear Lisa, I had a chance to talk to Janet (AC) - she mentioned to me
how impressed she was with Akira's emotional and mental strength -
sometimes we underestimated how strong and supportive they can be for us
- for obvious reasons, we just don't know about it - I am thinking of
you and Akira -









Thank You so much..yes she was amazed by
herI have never ahd a professional speak to her before..but several
amauters have just for practice..and they have all always said the same
thing...about how unbeliveable her spirit ismy BF doesent understand...he
says what Janet told me was so general...and it would be...if it hadnt been for
it being so simialr..adn her emotion in saying it..as so many others have
saideveryone who has spoken to Akira come across in amazement...saying her
soul is "un-naturally" strong and amzazing...Janet called her an
angelic being in physical form..she says she has only encountered a few
before..I have had others liken her to..angelic..adn unicorns as the strength,
wisdom,and power that her soul is so full ofit is a hard thing to be
loosing..the energy ffom her being so near...I can only pray she is as
comfortable and sure of ehrself as she says she is...my beloved Angel Akira
even in lifeShe is so peacefull right now..its like she is 'just
sleeping" not sick at all...it is so hardgranted if she was "just
sleeping" it wouldn't be so much, and she would be much more active...but
you just keep tryign to tell yourself.that she's not dying..just
napping







 





Lisa and
the furbrats
Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza

RE: Ginger

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I think Akira and Lisa are peacefully spending the time together - 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Ginger

I see that Akira is still with us. I thought from the last email that
she was 
not.
Michelle

In a message dated 5/11/05 9:44:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

<< Dear Lisa
Just want you to know you and Akira are in my thoughts constantly. I'm
praying for the time you have left to be a peaceful one. much love and
many hugs to you both, Kerry 
-Original Message- >>

RE: Akira..

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Dear Lisa,

Have you tried to use Sulphur (homeopathic remedy)  or Pulstilla (sorry
I can never spell right) by any chance? If not, please try them it will not do
any harm, but it may bring a miracle..

 









From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:33
PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Akira..



 







In a message dated 5/11/2005 7:12:31 P.M.
Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:






Lisa, is Akira gone? I somehow missed an email if she actually has
passed.  I 
am very sorry.  I think you know how sorry I am, and how keenly I know
what 
you are going through.









Thanks for asking...but no..she isnt
yet...this is so hard...she is sleeping alot...I really dont think it will be
long..Im jsut trying to keep her comfy..my BF said that just before I got home
she got up, went into the other room adn threw up..shich isnt a good sign..she
doesn't have ANYTHING..but mabey a bit of water to throw up...she still purrs
when I come into the rooma dn pet her, bless her heart..and this afternnoon
before I wnet to work..I asked her if she wanted to go outside..she popped up
and trotted to the door waiting for her leash...she loves being outside so
much.,I cant wait for her to be whole and healthy again and able to be free
outside as much as she wants.It is sucha horribel thing she had to have
theis FeLV..even more so that she must be confined from her love of the outdoor
world so much...She got to go for walks..but how she would have loved an
outdoor enclosure..to stay in whenever she wanted...but we rent so never could
build it...soon she will be romping in fields, lounging in the sun she loves so
very muchIm going to ask the vet tomorrow to call me in some
metrocloprimide injections for her...so she wont be feeling nauseusshe is
so week..yet so alert..this is so hardmy BF really doesn't understand why
she doesn't have a chance...he keeps calling me asking over and over again..I
told him to just call the vet for ehr to explain it to him..but he wontIm
having a hard enough time coping with this on my own to be having to justify it
to him 5 times a day.





Lisa and
the furbrats
Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza

RE: I NEED HELP

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I once had to transport one of my very
first cats from Japan to U.S. via airplane – she was a stray kitty,
and I just rescued her in Japan.
 She barely knew me, and I barely knew how to take care of a cat, that was
over 10 years ago – I had to switch plains three times with a long lay
over – so, if I could have done it, you can definitely do it -  I am
so glad that you are taking care of your two babies, I liked Chris’s
advise – also, it might work for some and not for others – but you
might want to cover the crate with a light color sheet (white or light light
blue) – some feel better being covered – 

 

Anyway, good luck with everything –
everything is going to be just fine – I would personally not suggest any
drugs as some cats have averse reactions to them – maybe spray some
Feliway to comfort them as well –

 

I am wishing you well being of you and your
babies!

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 2:24
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: I NEED HELP 



 

I know you’ve already gotten some
good advice about the trip—just another thought—I discovered by
accident that my local animal shelter has a room full of used crates that
people leave when they bring their animals…  I got one for $10,
cleaned it out with bleach & dtergent, let it air out outside & it was
good as new.  You might check with your local shelter to see if they have
any crates.  Another thought, my cats don’t like being in separate
crates—if you car can handle one large crate, you might think about
that.  Finally, don’t know what anyone else’s experience is
but my cats start meowing when the car comes to a stop or slows down. 
When we’re on the highway & they can see out the window,
they’re fine.  I never let them out of carrier in the car as I once
had a cat who I did let out who managed to wedge himself under the accellerator
pedal as I was driving!  Believe me, once you’re on the road,
you’re going to see lots of people traveling with all sorts of pets

 



Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martha Alejandra Moreno
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:58
AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: I NEED HELP 

 



Hello Everyone.

 

I come back after long time. I NEED HELP.

 

I live in Jackson Mississippi and for work reasons I
have to move to Corpus Christi (TX) at the end of June.  I have 2 cats
with feline leukemia; they are my first pets ever.  I have followed some
advices from you and my cats have been pretty healthy.  I want to take my
cats with me, but I do not how.  I do not have enough money contract an
animal transport service. How could I drive my car for 13 hours with cats? Any
ideas?  

 

Nobody (I trust) here is willing to take my cats. People
here advice me to return the cats to the adopt place, but I do not want to. I
love them and I am afraid nobody adopts them and shelter people euthanized my
cats. Or someone adopts them but do not take good care of them. What can I do?

 

Alejandra  

 

RE: Ginger

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, Michelle, I am wondering she is having
a difficult time to recover from the surgery itself – it’s a major
surgery - something similar happened to my FIV positive cat, Leo – I
almost lost him after the dental surgery and after giving him dox – he completely
stopped eating for two weeks, my regular vet thought he would not recover and I
knew she was thinking that I should euthanize him – I was devastated
because I was not expecting it at all – but sometimes with cats with immune
system already compromised will have a very difficult time to recover after the
surgery – 

Anyway, my holistic vet suggested that I stopped
antibiotics right way, and give a remedy called phosphorus (sorry I am not sure
if it’s the right spell) – it caused him a miracle, I think –
after two weeks, he stood up all of sudden and started eating again!  I
cried so hard, and my regular vet was amazed about his recovery – 

 

But it’s important that you give
fluid every single day as hydration become critical to survival – which I
did with Leo – he did not eat any food since I could barely force feed
him, but  I gave 100 ml of fluid twice a day – that’s what
kept him alive until the miracle happened – 

 

I will be praying that Ginger will soon
feel better. 

 









From:
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Subject: Re: Ginger



 





She will not touch liver shake. She would
not touch it several days ago either, though, when she was still trying to eat
other things, so I think she does not like it.  I am syringing it to her
mixed with A/D.  She does not want me to touch her now, I think because I
have been syringing her so much and she hates it. She will play with a string,
but otherwise hides from me.





Michelle





 





In a message dated 5/12/05 11:57:01 PM
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Hang on in there, Michelle--I can see why
you're so down about Ginger, but I would think it is a big shock to have 10
extractions and her poor little mouth must feel terribly tender, if not
downright painful. (Could she take something liquid like liver shake?) I
would also think it's exhausted her. It's early days and so soon after the
mouth surgery--she needs to recuperate. The fact she wants to play is surely a
good sign (Levi and Caramel had NO interest in playing after they got
really sick). 





I think you're right to give her
antibiotics--mine 









 

RE: hideyo-- sulphur and pulsatilla

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, Michelle – 

I think that’s the brand I used –
is it in a cylinder shape (blue and white color)?  

Here’s what I do – I put a
several pallets of pills in the syringe first (by removing the top part of the
syringe) and then put the top part of the syringe back together, then, put some
water in the bowel, and extract water from the bowel and fill up the syringe
with water – and I shake the syringe or let it sit for a while until it
melts and then I give it to my cats –

Please make sure not to give food 15 min. prior
to and after giving the pallets – 

 

Phosphorus is a really good remedy for
recovery from the surgery – give the first dose and how she does and you
might want to repeat after 12 hours if you see no improvement – then, if
you still don’t see the improvement – I would try Sulphur – 

Please know that Ginger is in my thought
and prayer.

 

Hideyo

 









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Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 5:38
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Subject: hideyo-- sulphur and
pulsatilla



 



Hideyo-- do you use the little round
homeopathic pellets (boiron brand)? If so, how many do you give, and do you
pill them like regular pills (put down their throats) or give them some other
way?





Thanks,





Michelle

RE: Ginger-- Hideyo

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Yep. I just sent another email with how I
pill them to my cats – let me know if it makes sense.

 









From:
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The little homeopathic pellets of
phosphorous? Do you pill them with them?





Michelle





 





In a message dated 5/13/05 11:54:09 AM
Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





Hi, Michelle, I am wondering she is having a difficult time to
recover from the surgery itself – it’s a major surgery - something similar
happened to my FIV positive cat, Leo – I almost lost him after the dental
surgery and after giving him dox – he completely stopped eating for two weeks,
my regular vet thought he would not recover and I knew she was thinking that I
should euthanize him – I was devastated because I was not expecting it at all –
but sometimes with cats with immune system already compromised will have a very
difficult time to recover after the surgery – 

Anyway, my holistic vet suggested that I stopped antibiotics right
way, and give a remedy called phosphorus (sorry I am not sure if it’s the right
spell) – it caused him a miracle, I think – after two weeks, he stood up all of
sudden and started eating again!  I cried so hard, and my regular vet was
amazed about his recovery – 

 

But it’s important that you give fluid every single day as
hydration become critical to survival – which I did with Leo – he did not eat
any food since I could barely force feed him, but  I gave 100 ml of fluid
twice a day – that’s what kept him alive until the miracle happened – 

 

I will be praying that Ginger will soon feel better. 

 







 

RE: Ginger

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I agree with Nina - any additional drugs you may give her right now
might be a burden and too much to handle for her right now - I feel that
she needs a break from all that - at least until she starts eating
again.  Michelle, please don't give up, Ginger is going to get better,
you have to believe that, and she needs you to believe in her.  I was so
scared of losing Leo, and the only people who did not give up a hope is
my and my holistic vet.
My holistic vets told me to avoid supplements and drugs in a situation
like this - that's why I suggested homeopathic remedy - it makes their
body to heal and deal with whatever they are dealing with no side effect
- you just have to find the right one that works for the specific
problem you are dealing with.

Michelle, I lost my Henry boy after giving baytrill antibiotics - which
almost never happens to anyone - but Henry's body was compromised
already and couldn't deal with drugs and it ended up killing him.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 11:37 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Ginger

You know Michelle, Hideyo is right about abx making you feel like crap, 
not to mention major surgery. I'm not so sure I'd be thinking about 
Immuno-Regulin right now. From what I understand, it's a bacteria (?) 
that is introduced to trigger immune responses. I don't know, it just 
sounds like Ginger is overwhelmed enough as it is. I have nothing to 
base this on but intuition, and a general dislike for medication in the 
first place. I'd go with making sure she eats, sq fluids if she's 
dehydrated and Dox. Since it's not working anyway, I wouldn't even give 
her the appetite stimulant at this point, what's the use, you're force 
feeding her anyway.
Nina

Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Hi, Michelle, I am wondering she is having a difficult time to recover

> from the surgery itself - it's a major surgery - something similar 
> happened to my FIV positive cat, Leo - I almost lost him after the 
> dental surgery and after giving him dox - he completely stopped eating

> for two weeks, my regular vet thought he would not recover and I knew 
> she was thinking that I should euthanize him - I was devastated 
> because I was not expecting it at all - but sometimes with cats with 
> immune system already compromised will have a very difficult time to 
> recover after the surgery -
>
> Anyway, my holistic vet suggested that I stopped antibiotics right 
> way, and give a remedy called phosphorus (sorry I am not sure if it's 
> the right spell) - it caused him a miracle, I think - after two weeks,

> he stood up all of sudden and started eating again! I cried so hard, 
> and my regular vet was amazed about his recovery -
>
> But it's important that you give fluid every single day as hydration 
> become critical to survival - which I did with Leo - he did not eat 
> any food since I could barely force feed him, but I gave 100 ml of 
> fluid twice a day - that's what kept him alive until the miracle 
> happened -
>
> I will be praying that Ginger will soon feel better.
>
>

>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 13, 2005 8:13 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: Ginger
>
> She will not touch liver shake. She would not touch it several days 
> ago either, though, when she was still trying to eat other things, so 
> I think she does not like it. I am syringing it to her mixed with A/D.

> She does not want me to touch her now, I think because I have been 
> syringing her so much and she hates it. She will play with a string, 
> but otherwise hides from me.
>
> Michelle
>
> In a message dated 5/12/05 11:57:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Hang on in there, Michelle--I can see why you're so down about
> Ginger, but I would think it is a big shock to have 10 extractions
> and her poor little mouth must feel terribly tender, if not
> downright painful. (Could she take something liquid like liver
> shake?) I would also think it's exhausted her. It's early days and
> so soon after the mouth surgery--she needs to recuperate. The fact
> she wants to play is surely a good sign (Levi and Caramel had NO
> interest in playing after they got really sick).
>
> I think you're right to give her antibiotics--mine
>

RE: Ginger

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I have never used Immuno-Reg on my Ginger because
my holistic vet (and regular vet) mentioned about the side effects (and my
regular vet) – the reason why I am thinking of maybe avoiding the drugs
is because I feel that Ginger is not doing well not to primarily due to FeLV,
but due to the stress (physical and mental) she went through from the surgery.

 

For example, when Leo went through the dental
surgery, he was already diabetic and I did not know about it – he had started
eating less and drooling and assumed that he needed a dental work, which was a
poor and detrimental assumption on my part (in reality, that was due to
diabetes  – but as soon as he was done with surgery, his condition
went down the hill – and actually it got even worse after giving dox –because
of the stress (physical and mental) he had to go through (surgery and anesthesia),
and since his body was already compromised due to FIV and diabetic conditions –
I needed to give him something he could recover from the surgery before he
could deal with his pre-existing condition which was diabetic condition (in
Ginger’s case FeLV) – 

 

If she did not go through the dental work,
and her condition got worse, I would think that her FeLV virus was causing the
symptoms – but I really felt that the surgery (anesthesia) caused it -  
If it were my kitty, I would try Phosphorus first and see what happens –
I will ask my holistic vet also to see if he suggest anything else –

 

I am very conservation when coming to
drugs I just had too much bad experience with drugs –

 









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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 12:20
PM
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Subject: Re: Ginger



 





I did give her the sulphur, which I have
in the house, in the manner that you suggested.  I do agree on some level
about not giving many drugs, which is why I did not give her the pain killer
this morning.  The reason I am thinking about the I-R is that the article
on the felineleukemia.org website actually says that it gets positve cats who
have stopped eating to eat again in 50% of the cases at the author vet's
clinic.  I don't know if he is telling the truth or not, but if it could
get her to eat that would be wonderful.  It is not supposed to have side
effects.  Well, actually I think I read somewhere that it could, but the
vet who wrote the article said he has treated 700 cats with it and has never
seen any side effects, and people on this list have used it and have never seen
any side effects.  So I thought maybe this one thing is worth
trying.  Do you think that is a bad idea? I am still open to not doing
it.  I am hoping the dox will make her URI better in a day or two and then
I will stop the antibiotics.  The only other med she is on besides the dox
is pepcid to try to counteract any nausea the dox might cause.  





Michelle  





 





In a message dated 5/13/05 1:48:28 PM
Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





I agree with Nina - any additional drugs
you may give her right now
might be a burden and too much to handle for her right now - I feel that
she needs a break from all that - at least until she starts eating
again.  Michelle, please don't give up, Ginger is going to get better,
you have to believe that, and she needs you to believe in her.  I was so
scared of losing Leo, and the only people who did not give up a hope is
my and my holistic vet.
My holistic vets told me to avoid supplements and drugs in a situation
like this - that's why I suggested homeopathic remedy - it makes their
body to heal and deal with whatever they are dealing with no side effect
- you just have to find the right one that works for the specific
problem you are dealing with.

Michelle, I lost my Henry boy after giving baytrill antibiotics - which
almost never happens to anyone - but Henry's body was compromised
already and couldn't deal with drugs and it ended up killing him.







 

RE: Ginger

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Michelle, chin up – if you had seen
Leo’s condition – you would have felt a bit better-

All he did was just laying on the floor,
he would not have moved at all for two weeks – 

Ginger will get better !

 









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Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 12:57
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Ginger



 

Oh Michelle, I wouldn't have believed a post from you
right now would get me laughing, but I'm holding my side.  I find myself
going outside, (just briefly, mind you), to get the paper, feed the ferals, or
whatever.  I'll smile brightly to my neighbors as they walk by and be
surprised by their less than enthusiastic response.  Surprised, that is,
until I go inside and take a look in my much neglected mirror!
Nina

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I decided to take a shower and brush
my teeth and generally try to appear human, maybe even straighten up the house
that has turned into a hovel, but wouldn't you know that before I could there
is a knock on the door. Apparently Gray made an appointment with the realtor and
did not tell me, and then left for the day. So I had to invite her in wearing a
sweatshirt with A/D all over it from syringe feeding, uncombed hair that is
greasy from not showering, and a house such a mess that there was really
nowhere to sit down where we were not staring at a pile of papers of
something.  I tried to act nonchalant about all of this and just tell her
I have been sick and Gray did not tell me about the appointment, but it really
was embarassing.  And it really emphasized how far I am psychologically
from the rest of the human race, sitting there trying to look alert and act
like I care about market analyses and house values and such.  It was
almost amusing, but not quite.





 





Well, off to the shower, unless some crisis occurs
before I get there, which unfortunately is quite possible these days.





 





Michelle

RE: Ginger ate a little (or at least licked at food)!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

That’s a great news Michelle!  Is
she getting the fluid the meantime?

 









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Subject: Re: Ginger ate a little
(or at least licked at food)!



 





I actually rescheduled it for
Thursday.  She has gotten much perkier-- playful and cuddly again, and
after licking at the fancy feast yesterday she also licked up a little baby
food. She has not touched food since then, but before getting the Triaminic this
morning she did go over and look at the food and try to cover it up.  So I
am cautiously hopeful.  If she is still not eating by Thursday I will take
her in for the ultrasound.  I do want to give her a chance to get over the
cold without the stress of 2 hours in the car and an hour or more at the vet,
belly shaving, ultrasound where I can not be present with her, etc.  It is
not as stressful as surgery, but it is stressful for her.





Thanks,





Michelle





 





In a message dated 5/15/05 9:34:19 PM
Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:







Dear Michelle





Tough one. If it were me, I think I would
keep the appointment to get it over and done with earlier rather than later,
while doing everything possible to minimize the stress on Ginger. It IS very
good news that she appears to be taking an interest in food--as you say it does
look like congestion may be the culprit making her unable to smell the food. I
really hope so. Having the ultrasound done would not affect her recovery from
congestion. If the cause of her appetite loss is not congestion then
the ultrasound may give more of a clue to what it is.





That's my 2 cents' worth. 





Sending Ginger lots of healing vibes..it
seems to me there is reason today to be cautiously optimistic...love and hugs
to you both, Kerry







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[Felvtalk] FW: Despartely seeking for help/advise - Felk Kittens - OT

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

 


Hello everone, It's been a long time to come back here - I need your help.
 
I am trying to reach out to as many as people possible hoping that, there will 
be a good solution to this situation.
One of the local rescue group have eleven 5 week old kittens (their moms were 
put back as TNR) - the kittens are all healthy.
The rescue group was going to euthanize all the kittens yesterday as they felt 
that, they would not be able to adopt them out.
but a feral cat/TNR group in town offered to take these kittens temporary in an 
effort to try to find a home for each one of them - I know it sound like a  
mission impossilbe - I strongly believe that, if we try hard enough, we can 
find a good home for everyone.
 
But I am hoping that someone in the groups may have some ideas or may be able 
to adopt/forester one or some of these kittens -
We just don't want them to get killed as they are so very healthy.
 
Please contact me personally if you have any idea/offers/suggestions at all - 
any idea is very much appreciated.
And please do feel free to forward this message to anyone.
 
Thank you.
 
Sincerey,
 
Hideyo
 
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Despartely seeking for help/advise - Felk Kittens - OT

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

We are un Albuquerque, NM - but we will bring the kittens anywhere.
 
thank you.
 
> From: longhornf...@verizon.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:23:58 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Despartely seeking for help/advise - Felk Kittens 
> - OT
> 
> In what state/town is needing this help?
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "HIDEYO YAMAMOTO" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 2:46 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Despartely seeking for help/advise - Felk Kittens - 
> OT
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello everone, It's been a long time to come back here - I need your help.
> >
> > I am trying to reach out to as many as people possible hoping that, there 
> > will be a good solution to this situation.
> > One of the local rescue group have eleven 5 week old kittens (their moms 
> > were put back as TNR) - the kittens are all healthy.
> > The rescue group was going to euthanize all the kittens yesterday as they 
> > felt that, they would not be able to adopt them out.
> > but a feral cat/TNR group in town offered to take these kittens temporary 
> > in an effort to try to find a home for each one of them - I know it sound 
> > like a mission impossilbe - I strongly believe that, if we try hard 
> > enough, we can find a good home for everyone.
> >
> > But I am hoping that someone in the groups may have some ideas or may be 
> > able to adopt/forester one or some of these kittens -
> > We just don't want them to get killed as they are so very healthy.
> >
> > Please contact me personally if you have any idea/offers/suggestions at 
> > all - any idea is very much appreciated.
> > And please do feel free to forward this message to anyone.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Sincerey,
> >
> > Hideyo
> >
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[Felvtalk] Raising money for 11 felk kittens

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

Thank you so very much for all who have shoown interests and compassions for 
these adorable Felk kittens - they are all doing well, eating well, and playing 
well.
Currehtly, we have an offer - a sort of barn situation (in/out), while we are 
grateful, but still worried about wild life - as these guys are veyr tame and 
some have light colors - and I would really like them to feel safe and cared 
for whereever they go.
 
Second Chance Meow offered to take all of 11 kittens and care, and provide any 
necessarly medical care for them, which we are grateful.
But it requires about $3500 as surrender fee -- unfortunately we don't have 
that type of funding right now, so I am personally trying to raise the money.
 
Any donations will be so appreciated.  They sound like very caring and 
wonderful people and I really would like to make this happen.
Any one who will be abel to donate any amount of money, please contact me 
personally.
 
Thank you so very much,
 
 
Hideyo and all the kittens :) 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

I have used feline omega interferon on many many cats in the past - there 
really is no side effect I have experienced with my cats.
it's been said, when used for a long term, it may suppress their bone marrow, 
which may cause anemia - but this never happens when using for a short term.
What was the lab work look like?  Did your vet suspect dry FIP by any chance - 
you will normally see elevated gloublin/decreased albumin - and sometimes 
elevated bilrubin with mild anmeia - 
The symptoms of dry FIP can be similar to toxoplasimosis - 
 
Hideyo
 
> From: longhornf...@verizon.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:52:54 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
> 
> I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Natalie" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
> 
> 
> > Leukemia or FeLV?
> > I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly - we 
> > had
> > no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a low-grade
> > fever
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
> >
> > Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia, although 
> > the
> > vet is not 100% sure.
> >
> > She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia... Blood
> > work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased.
> > Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative, < 1/10).
> >
> > About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at 
> > low
> > dose... dayly for at least 3 months.
> >
> > I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

What country are you in?
 
I also rescue, I lost so many cats to dry FIP in the past - how is her eye? - 
is there any uevitis in either of her eye?
Lysine may also help if she has chronic URI.
 
Hideyo
 
> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:53:00 +0200
> From: estherjo...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
> 
> Thank you for your answer. Indeed, FIP is always a posibility, but in this
> case, is not clear and the antibiotic good response seems to confirm it. I
> had dealed with PIF 4 times and know well it. The wet is not worried about
> it. But, in any case, I am not sure about toxoplasma. Protein is altered,
> high gamma but normal albumina in blood work . A/G ratio is 0,4. The anemia
> is caused because the Fel viruses is in the bone marrow. The vet suggest low
> dose omega interferon orally, at long term... Xana also has chronic flu, i
> mean feline herpesvirus.
> 
> Btw i am cat rescue person, Xana was trapped when she was a kitten I was
> lucky to find a fostering home. She is the only cat at home...
> Well, any idea will be very usefull
> And sorry, english is not my language. Thanks again
> El 14/06/2011 21:30, "HIDEYO YAMAMOTO"  escribió:
> >
> > I have used feline omega interferon on many many cats in the past - there
> really is no side effect I have experienced with my cats.
> > it's been said, when used for a long term, it may suppress their bone
> marrow, which may cause anemia - but this never happens when using for a
> short term.
> > What was the lab work look like? Did your vet suspect dry FIP by any
> chance - you will normally see elevated gloublin/decreased albumin - and
> sometimes elevated bilrubin with mild anmeia -
> > The symptoms of dry FIP can be similar to toxoplasimosis -
> >
> > Hideyo
> >
> >> From: longhornf...@verizon.net
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:52:54 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
> >>
> >> I thought FeLV stood for Feline Leukemia Virus
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Natalie" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:37 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
> >>
> >>
> >> > Leukemia or FeLV?
> >> > I had a cat that had leukemia (not FeLV) and she died very quickly - we
> 
> >> > had
> >> > no idea when it started...she began feeling tired, then got a low-grade
> >> > fever
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> >> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:28 AM
> >> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Virbagen interferon low doses - Need advise
> >> >
> >> > Xana, my baby is now 2,5 yo. I suspect she developped leukemia,
> although
> >> > the
> >> > vet is not 100% sure.
> >> >
> >> > She is now with antibiotics. She had fever, convulsions, ataxia...
> Blood
> >> > work shows anaemia, hematocrit 25%. white cells were highly increased.
> >> > Toxoplasma vas positive to igg( 1/10), (igm negative, < 1/10).
> >> >
> >> > About Felv the vet suggest to put her under omega interferon orally, at
> 
> >> > low
> >> > dose... dayly for at least 3 months.
> >> >
> >> > I am asking about side effects... can you give us some advise??
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Esther
> >> > = ^..^ =
> >> > adopta a
> >> > Gracia<
> http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/search/label/1.3.Adoptar%20en%2
> >> > 0Gracia><
> http://globaldefensagats.blogspot.com/2010/09/adoptar-en-gracia.htm
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[Felvtalk] LTCI - can it be used for 5 week old kittens?

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

Hi, I have used LTCI on several of my adult kitties -
but I wanted to try on some of these 11 felk positive kittens - as a couple of 
them are very small -
Does anyone know if they are safe for 5 to 6 week old kittens?
 
Hideyo
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

Absolutely agree!
 
Any vets whose first word when seeing felk positive cat is to KILL should not 
even be a veterinarian - must be an idiot, don't know anything about the virus.
 
Hideyo
 

> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:40:21 -0400
> From: felineres...@frontier.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali - 7 month old kitten
> 
> I
> On 06-22, Edna Taylor wrote:
> > 
> > Good for you Katy and I don't trust any vet whose first option is
> > kill the kitten :(
> 
> 
> I agree. Our vet never suggests euthanasia, but does tell me
> the possible outcome with a FelV pos. cat.
> 
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RE: average lifespan

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

This is just so depressing to think about,
isn’t it?

I look at Ginger, who is just a year old and
every day, I fear of the day – but fortunately she is doing very good and
try not to think about it too much, instead, I try to concentrate on loving her
more -  I am going to continue to fight with Ginger no matter what..

 









From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:04
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: average lifespan



 



Doesn't
seem to be a long life span. Looks like maybe 3 to 5 or 6 years. I believe that
Tom was born with this because it is in the bone marrow. He probably got it
from his mother. It is a shame that we have to go through pain and suffering
before we die. At least most of the time we do.





Barbra
Baass

Terri Brown
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









Samantha was 3 (1999)





Arielle was 4-1/2 (2001)





Gareth was 6-1/2 (2003)





Alec was 5-1/2 (2003)





 





Salome' is still with me.  She's 9.





 





RuthieGirl was 6 months (1996 -- not a FeLV related death; she was
Salome's littermate).





Siggie, Sammi, and Guinevere are FeLV negative.





 





=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and
5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=





 





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From: Gloria
B. Lane 





To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 





Sent: Monday, May 30,
2005 11:44 PM





Subject: Re: average
lifespan





 



Yo Jenn -

My darling Calawalla Banana Boo-boo was 3 years old. (2004)

My sweet Mittens was maybe 2.5 yrs. (2003)

My baby Mr. Black kitty was FIV and FELV+ - vet said he was 18.  I 
don't believe it.  Think he was a bit younger than that - 10 yrs 
maybe? (2002)

Gloria


>Well, my Moogie, who was born with FELV, lived 18 months, but it 
>varies widely, and also, I did not take drastic measures to prolong 
>her life. Had I done everything to the extreme, she may have lived 
>to be 2 years old. I'm not really sure what the "average" life
span 
>of FELV+ cats is, but one study has been done on the lifespan 
>expectations for cats infected with feline leukemia virus that 
>tested persistently viremic (continuously tested positive). In the 
>study, reported by Dr. Susan Cotter in the November 1991 issue of 
>the Journal of the AVMA, most cats died within two years but about 
>20% of the cats lived three or more years. Of course, if everyone 
>here tells you how old their FELV+ furangels were when they passed 
>on, then you'll get a good sampling, and be able to draw your own 
>conclusions, but you'll have to know how long they had the virus, 
>not just how long they lived, because some of them may have caught 
>it later in life, and that would skew the numbers.
>
>This could potentially be a very interesting thread, I wonder if we 
>qualify as a "study group"?
>
>Jenn
>http://ucat.us
>http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html













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RE: average lifespan

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Was Tom tested positive on the blood test
(I know sometimes they test as negative when the virus is in the bone marrow,
but not in blood) –

 

I am not sure what percentage of the cases
when a kitty is positive for the FeLV virus, but tested negative on the blood
work since it’s in the bone marrow only.

 









From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:04
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: average lifespan



 



Doesn't
seem to be a long life span. Looks like maybe 3 to 5 or 6 years. I believe that
Tom was born with this because it is in the bone marrow. He probably got it
from his mother. It is a shame that we have to go through pain and suffering
before we die. At least most of the time we do.





Barbra
Baass

Terri Brown
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









Samantha was 3 (1999)





Arielle was 4-1/2 (2001)





Gareth was 6-1/2 (2003)





Alec was 5-1/2 (2003)





 





Salome' is still with me.  She's 9.





 





RuthieGirl was 6 months (1996 -- not a FeLV related death; she was
Salome's littermate).





Siggie, Sammi, and Guinevere are FeLV negative.





 





=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and
5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=





 





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My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/
My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350







- Original Message - 





From: Gloria
B. Lane 





To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 





Sent: Monday, May 30,
2005 11:44 PM





Subject: Re: average
lifespan





 



Yo Jenn -

My darling Calawalla Banana Boo-boo was 3 years old. (2004)

My sweet Mittens was maybe 2.5 yrs. (2003)

My baby Mr. Black kitty was FIV and FELV+ - vet said he was 18.  I 
don't believe it.  Think he was a bit younger than that - 10 yrs 
maybe? (2002)

Gloria


>Well, my Moogie, who was born with FELV, lived 18 months, but it 
>varies widely, and also, I did not take drastic measures to prolong 
>her life. Had I done everything to the extreme, she may have lived 
>to be 2 years old. I'm not really sure what the "average" life
span 
>of FELV+ cats is, but one study has been done on the lifespan 
>expectations for cats infected with feline leukemia virus that 
>tested persistently viremic (continuously tested positive). In the 
>study, reported by Dr. Susan Cotter in the November 1991 issue of 
>the Journal of the AVMA, most cats died within two years but about 
>20% of the cats lived three or more years. Of course, if everyone 
>here tells you how old their FELV+ furangels were when they passed 
>on, then you'll get a good sampling, and be able to draw your own 
>conclusions, but you'll have to know how long they had the virus, 
>not just how long they lived, because some of them may have caught 
>it later in life, and that would skew the numbers.
>
>This could potentially be a very interesting thread, I wonder if we 
>qualify as a "study group"?
>
>Jenn
>http://ucat.us
>http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html













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RE: Recent losses

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I know what you mean – I used to
bury everyone in my back yard, then I ran out of space – so I started cremating
everyone – I have a wooden box with their fur and Whiskas and they sleep
with me on my bed – and I hold them, and it gives me a comfort –
and I feel close to them.

 









From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of tamara stickler
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:02
AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Recent losses



 



Jamie, I was dreading picking up the ashes too (Quint was the first
animal I couldn't bury - no yard), but found that it was surprisingly
comforting to have "him" home again.  The box with his ashes
sits behind a particularly fantastic framed picture of him on the top shelf of
a cd tower in the living room.  A picture of the cat, Carruthers, that I
tried to adopt, but died at the foster home a few days before I was supposed to
pick him up sits on the second shelf.  I have a vase of flowers ontop of
the tower...and oddly enough...I think as it becomes necessary, that tower will
hold all the remains of my pets...until the time comes for my relatives to
spread all our ashes out togetherand I'll keep flowers in the vase.





 





The good thing about cremation is...you don't have to worry about
leaving them behind when you moveof having their remains disturbed by new
people.





 





As for everyone that suffered a loss this past week:  My
condolances.  How extremely lucky were Andy, Fern, Pepsi, Digby and all
the others to have had someone to love them as much as you all did.  (Its
a gift that many children never know.)  You are all in my prayers.





 





Peace to all, and God Bless





T

Jamie Laws
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I am trying to step out of my own grief and offer condolences to others
who have had losses.  Michelle and Marlene, I think we have just had
a rough week.  Michelle lost both Fern and Pepsi on Sunday, I lost Andy on
Monday, and Marlene lost Digby on Tuesday.  I just got the call today
from the vet that Andy's ashes are back and I can pick him up when I am
ready.  But I just couldn't do it today.  I may go in the
morning.  I don't know why I am dreading that part so much.  





 





Anyway, I just wanted to tell you both how very sorry I am for your
incredible losses.  I can empathize with you and my heart aches with
yours.





 





Jamie





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RE: average lifespan

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

What does it mean? Does it mean that his blood
test would not have shown as positive?

 









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Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 7:56
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: average lifespan



 



Barb,





Snowball had it in his bone marrow, and regrettfully he bled to
death...It was so horrid, but I would never have given him up or given him the
love for the months that I had him, I am sure if I found this group first he
might still be here with me.





Cherie

Barbara Baass
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







Belinda, was this in the bone marrow? I
think I have decided to keep "Tom." I have gotten too attached
to him and here I am suppose to be a foster mom.





Barbara Baass

Belinda Sauro
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The three I lost back in
the early 90's were age 5, 7 and 9 years 
old. Mikie (5) and Skeeter (7) to cancer and Frankie (9) to anemia, I 
wish I had known then what I know now :(

-- 
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RE: Jersey.....

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Title: Message








Hi, Stan,

I am so very sorry to hear about Jersey –

Though I felt much sorrow in your message,
I also felt lots of brightness in your message, and I agree with what you said
about - 

 

On the
other hand,though I believe that we have to fight for their life till the
semi- end. (I know Belinda will agree with me 100%). 

And not the
vets but God knows how long our pets will live.

I believe that the fate can be changed with
our love and dedications not matter what path is there for them – 

Thank you very much for taking good care of
Jersey – he is now free of pain – his soul is probably happily right
besides you ---

 









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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005
2:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Jersey.



 



Dear Stan





I am so very sorry. Although I haven't
been posting, because you got so much excellent advice from members much more
knowledgeable than me, I have been following the story of your and Jersey's struggle. I am glad he knew he had such a
loving, caring friend looking out for him right to the end.





with much sympathy





take care,





Kerry



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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005
3:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Jersey.





I am very
sorry to tell you that Jersey died today-
11am.

He was
very sick the last two days. I was going to take him today to the vet clinic
Bonnie reccomended me but it was late...

I think
the kidney problems and not the leukimia is the cause of his death. He was
crying like a baby when I touched him. He didn't want any food and just a
little bit water. He was also very anemic.

I found
the strength to bury him in a very nice place in my area. So, please put him in
the Candle Light Service (May 2003- June 1-2005)

I wish to
thank you again for all advices and help. I am going to read the letters in
this forum because I might find a way to help you or find out something I have
to know for my future pets.

I
strongly believe that a personal expericene might be much more valuable than
pure theoretical knowledge. That is why I like this forum and for 10 days I
lerant many many new things for the cats.

 I
don't believe in the death and I think the place pets are going after it is
still a nice one.

On the
other hand,though I believe that we have to fight for their life till the
semi- end. (I know Belinda will agree with me 100%). 

And not the
vets but God knows how long our pets will live.

I really
wish that XXI century will bring the medication against cancer. It will come
from herbs maybe...as a famous fortunteller Vanga used to say.


By the way, I have some Interferon left, some predinsoline and glavamox left. I
will keep the medications and if anybody needs them, you are welcome to write
me. If anybody is passing by Toledo,
 OH, can pick them.

See you
later,

Stan




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>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Jersey
>Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 11:40:48 -0700
>
>Hi Stan,
>   Haven't seen any posts recently and just wanted to check in on

>Jersey and you, how are you both doing?
>
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>
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RE: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Gloria, please contact ACs to see if they can help you find Sam, this is
an emergency and I know they can help locate Sam ASAP

I am leaving a couple of ACs names and the contact info to see if they
can help - they are all very good. Some also helped locate Sally's lost
cat, too.

Good luck everything - Also, Dr. Geri Ryan has a meditation that you can
use that is effective and bring an animal home quickly - please mention
that it's an emergency.

Marta Williams - 707.829.8186 
Janet Shepherd (410) 664-9960
Jasmine Indra - (207) 443-1125 510-325-2062 (cell)
Dr. Geri Ryan (instructor) 510-569-6123- 
Annette Betcher 360-871-4774

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Subject: RE: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service


Gloria
It's heartbreaking---I hope and pray Sam is found safe. 
Kerry
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Subject: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service


Hi - Belinda would you add Sam to the Candlelight Service, special 
needs list?  Sam is lost.  He belonged to an older lady whose family 
we know.  She became sick and  I found a foster home.

The foster mom accidently let Sam outside last weekend, and he hasn't 
been seen since.  Susan and I've been going over and passing out 
flyers and looking for him in the neighborhood.

Sam is a 17 year old Siamese cat, never been outside before that I 
know of.  Prayers and good thoughts and vibes are appreciated.

Thanks -

Gloria

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RE: average lifespan

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

How are they both doing?  Are they asymptomatic?

 









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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: average lifespan



 

I’ve got a 6 + year old who tested pos
last year though vet thinks she had it all along and a 4+ that I took in as a
stray last year who also turned out to be pos….  

 



Chris

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005
12:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: average lifespan

 



Yes, this is
very depressing. Tom was about a year and a half the vet said and I guess now
he is 2 years old.  I know now from what the group said what to expect of
his life span. Maybe another year or two.





Is Salome just
a carrier or is it in the bone marrow? To be 9 years old, she must be a
carrier??





Barbara Baass

Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





This is just so
depressing to think about, isn’t it?

I look at Ginger, who is
just a year old and every day, I fear of the day – but fortunately she is
doing very good and try not to think about it too much, instead, I try to
concentrate on loving her more -  I am going to continue to fight with
Ginger no matter what..

 













From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:04
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: average lifespan



 



Doesn't seem to be a long life span. Looks like maybe 3 to 5 or
6 years. I believe that Tom was born with this because it is in the bone
marrow. He probably got it from his mother. It is a shame that we have to go
through pain and suffering before we die. At least most of the time we do.





Barbra Baass

Terri Brown
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









Samantha was 3 (1999)





Arielle was 4-1/2 (2001)





Gareth was 6-1/2 (2003)





Alec was 5-1/2 (2003)





 





Salome' is still with me.  She's 9.





 





RuthieGirl was 6 months (1996 -- not a FeLV related
death; she was Salome's littermate).





Siggie, Sammi, and Guinevere are FeLV negative.





 





=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire,
Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and
Alec =^..^=





 





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- Original Message - 





From: Gloria
B. Lane 





To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 





Sent: Monday, May
30, 2005 11:44 PM





Subject: Re: average
lifespan





 



Yo Jenn -

My darling Calawalla Banana Boo-boo was 3 years old. (2004)

My sweet Mittens was maybe 2.5 yrs. (2003)

My baby Mr. Black kitty was FIV and FELV+ - vet said he was 18.  I 
don't believe it.  Think he was a bit younger than that - 10 yrs 
maybe? (2002)

Gloria


>Well, my Moogie, who was born with FELV, lived 18 months, but it 
>varies widely, and also, I did not take drastic measures to prolong 
>her life. Had I done everything to the extreme, she may have lived 
>to be 2 years old. I'm not really sure what the "average" life
span 
>of FELV+ cats is, but one study has been done on the lifespan 
>expectations for cats infected with feline leukemia virus that 
>tested persistently viremic (continuously tested positive). In the 
>study, reported by Dr. Susan Cotter in the November 1991 issue of 
>the Journal of the AVMA, most cats died within two years but about 
>20% of the cats lived three or more years. Of course, if everyone 
>here tells you how old their FELV+ furangels were when they passed 
>on, then you'll get a good sampling, and be able to draw your own 
>conclusions, but you'll have to know how long they had the virus, 
>not just how long they lived, because some of them may have caught 
>it later in life, and that would skew the numbers.
>
>This could potentially be a very interesting thread, I wonder if we 
>qualify as a "study group"?
>
>Jenn
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RE: RE: average lifespan

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

 I am so happy to hear that they are both
doing good!  We just have to take one day at a time – right?  That’s
what I do with my ginger, and all of my other cats for that matter –
every day, I come home and see them, all my troubles seem to be so minimal
compared to their well-being..

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005
10:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: RE: average lifespan



 

Well, Tucson hovers between 16-17 lbs and I
recently had to put her on a diet as her weight affected her
breathing…  When she slows down on eating or is in a grumpy mood, I
know something is up—that’s how I found out she was FELV+.  I’ve
had her since she was a kitten, (had fallen into a wall in my parent’s
apt) & she’s never been exposed to FELV as she was indoors only so
vets I saw were sure she’s had it since birth.  Only problems
I’ve had were two episodes of very low white blood count which vet
treated with immuno-regulin.  Big Boy is a stray I fed for a couple of
years before bringing him in—I saw him every day all that time & he
was never sick.  I was floored when he tested pos.  Its hard to tell
how old he is but vet says somewhere between 4-6.  He has been
asymptomatic but vet trips are a real ordeal for him so outside of regular
blood tests, I try not to take him in too often.  My other 3 (1 older, 2
younger than Tucson),
were around her and not vaccinated for FELV—They now get tested/vaccinated
once a year (we’re due this month).  Anyway, so far so good, (knock
on wood)—though I know that things can change in a heartbeat…

 



Chris

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005
5:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE:
average lifespan

 

How are they both doing?  Are
they asymptomatic?

 













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005
11:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: average lifespan



 

I’ve got a 6 + year
old who tested pos last year though vet thinks she had it all along and a 4+
that I took in as a stray last year who also turned out to be pos…. 


 



Chris

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005
12:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: average lifespan

 



Yes,
this is very depressing. Tom was about a year and a half the vet said and I
guess now he is 2 years old.  I know now from what the group said what to
expect of his life span. Maybe another year or two.





Is
Salome just a carrier or is it in the bone marrow? To be 9 years old,
she must be a carrier??





Barbara
Baass

Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





This is
just so depressing to think about, isn’t it?

I look
at Ginger, who is just a year old and every day, I fear of the day – but
fortunately she is doing very good and try not to think about it too much,
instead, I try to concentrate on loving her more -  I am going to continue
to fight with Ginger no matter what..

 

















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:04
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: average lifespan



 



Doesn't seem to be a long life span. Looks like maybe 3 to 5 or
6 years. I believe that Tom was born with this because it is in the bone marrow.
He probably got it from his mother. It is a shame that we have to go through
pain and suffering before we die. At least most of the time we do.





Barbra Baass

Terri Brown
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









Samantha was 3 (1999)





Arielle was 4-1/2 (2001)





Gareth was 6-1/2 (2003)





Alec was 5-1/2 (2003)





 





Salome' is still with me.  She's 9.





 





RuthieGirl was 6 months (1996 -- not a FeLV related
death; she was Salome's littermate).





Siggie, Sammi, and Guinevere are FeLV negative.





 





=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire,
Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and
Alec =^..^=





 





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- Original Message - 





From: Gloria
B. Lane 





To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 





Sent: Monday, May
30, 2005 11:44 PM





Subject: Re: average
lifespan





 



Yo Jenn -

My darling Calawalla Banana Boo-boo was 3 years old. (2004)

My sweet Mittens was maybe 2.5 yrs. (2003)

My baby Mr. Black kitty was FIV and FELV+ - vet said he was 18.  I 
don't believe it.  Think he was a bit younger than that - 10 yrs 
maybe? (2

RE: Sam is lost - AC

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Good luck! Let me know what you find out - if you don't get what you
need, or need a second opinion (which I definitely recommend as non one
is 100% accurate at 100% of the time, as they told me),
Please try, Marta Williams is very good, too(she published a book called
"Learning their language", which is pretty amazing and Annette Martin
(?)-she also works with Police to help them find missing people
408-379-6669 as well.


My favorite person is Janet Shepherd - 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC

Thank you!!  I did contact Jasmine - she said she didn't deal with lost 
kitties, but gave me the name of Diane Samsel, in South Carolina, and I 
have an appointment with her in the morning at 10am cst!!  Thank you!!

Gloria

At 04:25 PM 6/1/2005, you wrote:
>Gloria, please contact ACs to see if they can help you find Sam, this
is
>an emergency and I know they can help locate Sam ASAP
>
>I am leaving a couple of ACs names and the contact info to see if they
>can help - they are all very good. Some also helped locate Sally's lost
>cat, too.
>
>Good luck everything - Also, Dr. Geri Ryan has a meditation that you
can
>use that is effective and bring an animal home quickly - please mention
>that it's an emergency.
>
>Marta Williams - 707.829.8186
>Janet Shepherd (410) 664-9960
>Jasmine Indra - (207) 443-1125 510-325-2062 (cell)
>Dr. Geri Ryan (instructor) 510-569-6123-
>Annette Betcher 360-871-4774
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
>Kerry N.
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:05 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service
>
>
>Gloria
>It's heartbreaking---I hope and pray Sam is found safe.
>Kerry
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B.
Lane
>Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:55 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service
>
>
>Hi - Belinda would you add Sam to the Candlelight Service, special
>needs list?  Sam is lost.  He belonged to an older lady whose family
>we know.  She became sick and  I found a foster home.
>
>The foster mom accidently let Sam outside last weekend, and he hasn't
>been seen since.  Susan and I've been going over and passing out
>flyers and looking for him in the neighborhood.
>
>Sam is a 17 year old Siamese cat, never been outside before that I
>know of.  Prayers and good thoughts and vibes are appreciated.
>
>Thanks -
>
>Gloria
>
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>intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
are
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RE: Tad's Sammy

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Tad, I am so very sorry about Sammy –
it is just so sad that it came so quickly, but at the same time, I feel
relieved in a sense that he did not have to suffer for a long time – and
you two have a quality of life together until the very very end – and both
of you were and still are lucky to have each other.  Sounds like he is such a
special boy –

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Del Daniels
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:36
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Tad's Sammy



 



Tad,





 





What a story about your Sammy and his history.  The
cancer was awful, isn't amazing and scary how aggressively fast it can
grow.  You are wonderful to have cared for him and your other
kitties.  My sympathies to you for your loss. 





Del







- Original Message - 





From: Tad Burnett






To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org






Sent: Thursday, June 02,
2005 1:21 PM





Subject: Re: Tad's Sammy





 



Thank you all for the
kind words about Sammy...
Sammy did have a full life and an interesting story...
He originally came to me as SD named after the
Suffuc Downs horse race track near Boston
 MA.
where he came from...When feeding the ferals there
there was one cat that came up to be patted and
picked up...They decided to rescue him and when
they brought a carrier for him he walked in himself...
 
They brought him to the vet for a check up..FeLV+...
But he was such a good boy they decided to try
one time on the internet...I had spent some time
in that area years ago so I wrote back and said I
would take him...
 
His teeth were all rotten and he had to be neutered
before I could bring him home but from the very
1st moment that I saw him he was my cat..He joined
the others in my FeLV room with no problem at all
and he always slept by my head at night...
 
He liked to sit in the window and watch outside...
He would have liked to go outside againBut
one day soon after I got  him it was snowing
and he jumped in the window and took one look
and jumped back down...He knew what snow was
and didn't want to be outside that day
 
A while later I got a call from the rescue person that
I had gotten him from and they found a worker at the
track that had asked about him...It seems there was
an old woman that had lived in one of the horse barns
and his name was Sammy and he had lived with the old
woman but she had cancer and had passed away...
The man was happy that Sammy had a good home
because he knew him from before.
 
Sammy was old and I feed him special food which he
ate well but never put on much weight and he had
arthritis but he never showed any sign of anything
unusual until Saturday night when he didn't finish his food
the way he usually did and was shacking his head...
I thought it might be one of his remaining teeth...
Then on Sunday he just looked at his food but wouldn't
eat...An hour later I found him with blood coming out
of his mouthThe vet said to watch him and put me on
for early appointment for Monday morning.Monday
morning he couldn't close his mouth with a huge swelling
under his tongue...
 
The vet said it was most likely a cancer tumor with a
burst blood vessel and the whole lower jaw was involved...
He would have had to remove the lower jaw to get rid
of it and because of his age he probably wouldn't have
made itHe was in pain and the only humain thing to
do was to help him on to the Rainbow
 Bridge
 
It all happened so quickly that I was just studded by it all
and I miss my old friend but perhaps I will get to see him
again
 
If you would add his name to the CLS list that would be nice..
 
Tad
 

RE: Help

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi, Jennifer,
What have the vets done so far in terms of effort of diagnosing what may
be wrong with him?  Did they do complete blood work on him? Are the all
the organs shown as normal?  How about his thyroid level?  How about his
glucose level?  How about his protein level???

A similar thing happened to my cat, OB (who is not feLV positive by the
way), but the condition you described for Sebastian is very similar to
OB's problem - he eats well, but keep losing weight and hair was getting
way to thin and drink lots of water - all the blood work is normal, and
no one could figure out what's wrong with him - and my AC, Janet told me
about this vet below (her dog had a similar problem, and she spent over
$15,000 to treat him, but couldn't fix and he was dying - and then she
found out this doctor, Dr. plechnner and his treatment and the dog was
finally cured by him!

I am sending the link about him and his book - you might want to read
about it - you will just have to find a vet to work with Dr. Plechnner
for the treatment portion.  I read it myself and it's pretty impressive.

There is a blood work you can have it done to see if the problem your
cat may have is the problem that he talks about - about Janet told me
that the blood work costs a lot of money $300 or so, lots of people just
start treatment to see if they work for them - 

Dr. Plechnner also talks about treating many many FeLV positive cats and
cure them as well when everyone else have given up on them in his book -
I am not sure if this is the answer, but I would definitely recommend it
- and here's the link.

http://www.drplechner.com/resources.html
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 4:59 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Help

Hi Jennifer,
I know your baby is in trouble and how scary this is, but try not to 
panic.  First of all, why was Sebastian on steroid shots monthly for 
years?  I know that hair loss is associated with steroids.  The weakness

in his hind legs could be caused by a number of things, potassium 
deficiency, spinal injury, etc.  I do not know if there are vets that 
specialize in FeLV per se, but you should be seeing a specialist vet 
such as an Internist instead of a regular practice vet so they can help 
diagnosis whatever is going on with your sweet Sebastian.  You can find 
a specialty clinic, (a vet hospital that has different specialists under

one roof), by asking you current vet, or phoning an emergency clinic in 
your area for a referral. 
Nina

JENNIFER RATLIFF wrote:

> I need help with my 3 year old FELV+ baby Sebastian.  Sebastian, I 
> believe, was born positive.  His life has been wonderful until 
> recently.  He has lost weight, hair, and has weakness in his hind 
> legs.  His eating habits are good.  I just don't know what to do.  I 
> have taken him to three different vets and no one is doing what I 
> want.  I want to know why all of these things are happening and I want

> to fix them.  I have to do everything that I can to help him.  I will 
> be devastated when something happens to him.  For about two years he 
> was getting steroid shots monthly.  This was recently stopped and now 
> he is on Interferon. /  /I need to know if anyone knows of any feline 
> leukemia specialists, any great websites.  I will take him to whatever

> vet that I need to.  I just need advice as to what to do next.
>

RE: Help

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Also, I did look into vets who specializing treating FeLV cats - did
call them, and talked to a couple - but one who did not want to do a
phone consultation  gave me a referral in my state - I can try to find
the number of the vets who gave me a referral if you are interested - 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Help

Hi, Jennifer,
What have the vets done so far in terms of effort of diagnosing what may
be wrong with him?  Did they do complete blood work on him? Are the all
the organs shown as normal?  How about his thyroid level?  How about his
glucose level?  How about his protein level???

A similar thing happened to my cat, OB (who is not feLV positive by the
way), but the condition you described for Sebastian is very similar to
OB's problem - he eats well, but keep losing weight and hair was getting
way to thin and drink lots of water - all the blood work is normal, and
no one could figure out what's wrong with him - and my AC, Janet told me
about this vet below (her dog had a similar problem, and she spent over
$15,000 to treat him, but couldn't fix and he was dying - and then she
found out this doctor, Dr. plechnner and his treatment and the dog was
finally cured by him!

I am sending the link about him and his book - you might want to read
about it - you will just have to find a vet to work with Dr. Plechnner
for the treatment portion.  I read it myself and it's pretty impressive.

There is a blood work you can have it done to see if the problem your
cat may have is the problem that he talks about - about Janet told me
that the blood work costs a lot of money $300 or so, lots of people just
start treatment to see if they work for them - 

Dr. Plechnner also talks about treating many many FeLV positive cats and
cure them as well when everyone else have given up on them in his book -
I am not sure if this is the answer, but I would definitely recommend it
- and here's the link.

http://www.drplechner.com/resources.html
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 4:59 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Help

Hi Jennifer,
I know your baby is in trouble and how scary this is, but try not to 
panic.  First of all, why was Sebastian on steroid shots monthly for 
years?  I know that hair loss is associated with steroids.  The weakness

in his hind legs could be caused by a number of things, potassium 
deficiency, spinal injury, etc.  I do not know if there are vets that 
specialize in FeLV per se, but you should be seeing a specialist vet 
such as an Internist instead of a regular practice vet so they can help 
diagnosis whatever is going on with your sweet Sebastian.  You can find 
a specialty clinic, (a vet hospital that has different specialists under

one roof), by asking you current vet, or phoning an emergency clinic in 
your area for a referral. 
Nina

JENNIFER RATLIFF wrote:

> I need help with my 3 year old FELV+ baby Sebastian.  Sebastian, I 
> believe, was born positive.  His life has been wonderful until 
> recently.  He has lost weight, hair, and has weakness in his hind 
> legs.  His eating habits are good.  I just don't know what to do.  I 
> have taken him to three different vets and no one is doing what I 
> want.  I want to know why all of these things are happening and I want

> to fix them.  I have to do everything that I can to help him.  I will 
> be devastated when something happens to him.  For about two years he 
> was getting steroid shots monthly.  This was recently stopped and now 
> he is on Interferon. /  /I need to know if anyone knows of any feline 
> leukemia specialists, any great websites.  I will take him to whatever

> vet that I need to.  I just need advice as to what to do next.
>

RE: Help

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Is this the test that Dr. Plechnner suggest or is this something else?
If so, much cheaper than what the book says - huh?


Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Help

   I had Bailey and Joey tested with this special test, the lab charges 
$120.00 per cat and my vet added $60.00 per cat, so I paid $180.00 per 
test, I was a bit shocked but we did find out that both of them are very

low on cortisiod, and some other things.  That's one of the reasons I 
switching to homemade food and they are both on low doses of pred to try

and get their cortisiod up to normal levels, I need to retest just 
haven't been able to yet.  I think a restest is $70.00 or 80.00 per
test.

There are only 5 or 6 labs capable of doing the test, guess that's why 
it is so expensive.

-- 
 Belinda
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RE: Sam is lost - AC

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Any update on Sam??

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:58 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC

Good luck! Let me know what you find out - if you don't get what you
need, or need a second opinion (which I definitely recommend as non one
is 100% accurate at 100% of the time, as they told me),
Please try, Marta Williams is very good, too(she published a book called
"Learning their language", which is pretty amazing and Annette Martin
(?)-she also works with Police to help them find missing people
408-379-6669 as well.


My favorite person is Janet Shepherd - 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC

Thank you!!  I did contact Jasmine - she said she didn't deal with lost 
kitties, but gave me the name of Diane Samsel, in South Carolina, and I 
have an appointment with her in the morning at 10am cst!!  Thank you!!

Gloria

At 04:25 PM 6/1/2005, you wrote:
>Gloria, please contact ACs to see if they can help you find Sam, this
is
>an emergency and I know they can help locate Sam ASAP
>
>I am leaving a couple of ACs names and the contact info to see if they
>can help - they are all very good. Some also helped locate Sally's lost
>cat, too.
>
>Good luck everything - Also, Dr. Geri Ryan has a meditation that you
can
>use that is effective and bring an animal home quickly - please mention
>that it's an emergency.
>
>Marta Williams - 707.829.8186
>Janet Shepherd (410) 664-9960
>Jasmine Indra - (207) 443-1125 510-325-2062 (cell)
>Dr. Geri Ryan (instructor) 510-569-6123-
>Annette Betcher 360-871-4774
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
>Kerry N.
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:05 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service
>
>
>Gloria
>It's heartbreaking---I hope and pray Sam is found safe.
>Kerry
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B.
Lane
>Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:55 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service
>
>
>Hi - Belinda would you add Sam to the Candlelight Service, special
>needs list?  Sam is lost.  He belonged to an older lady whose family
>we know.  She became sick and  I found a foster home.
>
>The foster mom accidently let Sam outside last weekend, and he hasn't
>been seen since.  Susan and I've been going over and passing out
>flyers and looking for him in the neighborhood.
>
>Sam is a 17 year old Siamese cat, never been outside before that I
>know of.  Prayers and good thoughts and vibes are appreciated.
>
>Thanks -
>
>Gloria
>
>This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
are
>addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the
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RE: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Did your kitties get treated on his treatment?  If so, how did it go?  I
am very curious because of my OB is getting thinner and thinner - and so
is his hair..and I want to try it - 
Did you use Antech or Idexx lab?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:55 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

Yes it is the test he suggests and was sent to the lab he has listed

on his website.  I called them to ask how much they charged when I got 
the bill from my vet and they charge $120.00 per test.  Maybe the cost 
he mentions is with his fee for handling and shipping.

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RE: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

The only thing I did not like about it using steroid- He does mention
about using natural type - have you ever looked into that?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

   They've been on it for a while but until I can afford to retest I 
really won't know how their levels are now and whether I need to adjust 
the dose they are getting.  With Bailey being positive we have to be 
careful not to  comprimise his immune system.  Joey's diarrhea is much 
better, and Bailey is eating better, he was starting to lose weight but 
he also had stomastisis and had his teeth pulled, once that healed he 
was eating good again.  They have both gained alittle weight.  Joey also

has mild to moderate cardiomyapathy we just found out, so we are also 
going to start treatment for that shortly.

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RE: Sam is lost - AC

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Oh.. poor baby, he is probably very scared - important thing is that
kids do not try to find him or chase him as they may think they are
helping but actually it will scare him more, and you don't really want
Sam to move or get scared away and go some place else where it might not
be safe.  It's also helpful to put a flyer on an every single door of
every single house instead of putting some on the posts on the street -
every time I needed to look for a cat for myself or for someone, I did
that way, and it has a much better success rate than putting them on
post - then, you can make sure that they have your phone number with
them at home and they usually keep the flyer for a while that way - it's
a lot of work and it's definitely worth it - I had about 75% success
rate of finding them this way.  Also, on the flyer, if they see a cat
similar to Sam, ask them to put the food out for him so that he will
stick around - and you can perhaps set a trap there once you confirm
that he is eating there - food availability is very so important for Sam
so that he will feel safe and will stay the place.

I would really like it if you can call Dr. Geri Ryan to find out about
the meditation information - some might think it's stupid, but she said
that it's very effective - I wrote down some, but I don't think I have
all the wording correctly -

Also, again please call Marta Williams if you need the 2nd opinion - she
is very very good about finding a lost animal - she can actually
sometimes, visualize exactly what path they took to get where they
arrived - sorry for being pushy - but I wanted to make sure that Sam is
OK and can be found asap - please keep us posted - I will pray.

The meditation goes like 
You imagine a golden koyo (?), coming from your heart center, reaching
out into the world, searching and  for Sam. Latch onto like a magnet
and guiding him safely home 

She suggested you meditate as many as you can (and your friends,
too),she told me that it's amazing how well it works, and you can be
re-united with your animals most amazing way.

I just called the doctor to let me know of the missing wordings in the
meditation in case you will use it.

Kisses and hugs to Sam.

Hideyo


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC

No - not yet - sometimes hopeful, sometimes sad.  Sigh. We've gotten
great 
advice.  Posting and passing out a flyer, and made a "business card"
with 
his picture on it.  Offering a reward, but not saying on the poster how
much.

Diane says she feels he's near water, and hiding.  We've been 
looking.  We've been out just about everyday, and get great help from
the 
kids in the neighborhood.

Got it narrowed down to a few houses nearby, where they've seen a
Siamese 
cat, just haven't seen Sam.

Gloria

At 12:38 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote:
>Any update on Sam??
>
>-----Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
>Yamamoto
>Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:58 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC
>
>Good luck! Let me know what you find out - if you don't get what you
>need, or need a second opinion (which I definitely recommend as non one
>is 100% accurate at 100% of the time, as they told me),
>Please try, Marta Williams is very good, too(she published a book
called
>"Learning their language", which is pretty amazing and Annette Martin
>(?)-she also works with Police to help them find missing people
>408-379-6669 as well.
>
>
>My favorite person is Janet Shepherd -
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B.
Lane
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:24 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC
>
>Thank you!!  I did contact Jasmine - she said she didn't deal with lost
>kitties, but gave me the name of Diane Samsel, in South Carolina, and I
>have an appointment with her in the morning at 10am cst!!  Thank you!!
>
>Gloria
>
>At 04:25 PM 6/1/2005, you wrote:
> >Gloria, please contact ACs to see if they can help you find Sam, this
>is
> >an emergency and I know they can help locate Sam ASAP
> >
> >I am leaving a couple of ACs names and the contact info to see if
they
> >can help - they are all very good. Some also helped locate Sally's
lost
> >cat, too.
> >
> >Good luck everything - Also, Dr. Geri Ryan has a meditation that you
>can
> >use that is effective and bring an animal home quickly - please
mention
> >that it's an emergency.
> >
> >Marta Williams - 707.829.8186
> >Janet Shepherd (410)

RE: FW: Sam is lost - AC

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Gloria, she just called be back (in two minutes after I left her a message) and 
I am sure that she will call you right back - but I got the rest of the 
wordings - she is a wonderful person, she is an instructor at C C (??) 
foundation. She is the one who recommend that I talk to Marta Williams when I 
first called her.

You imagine a golden coil, coming from your heart center, reaching
>out into the world, searching and probing for Sam. Latch onto like a magnet
>and guiding him safely home,

The rest of the people on the list, if time allows, please read this meditation 
for Sam, so that he can be re-united with Gloria ASAP (THANK YOU 
---everyone!!!)

Also, in case you might find helpful at all, here's the flyer that we use when 
we have missing animals - 

REWARD!!
Still Looking For 
Beige or Short Pale Gold Colored Kitty

We are desperately looking for a FERAL kitty, which has been escaped from Pecos 
Loop Area.

 Description:
 A Small Female Adult with Short Beige Hair 
 Shy and afraid of people – therefore, she will most likely to run 
away if you have an eye contact with her.

If you have already seen her, please call ASAP regarding his whereabouts.  If 
you see her in the future , please do NOT CATCH her or DO NOT CHASE her.  But 
please call us immediately regarding her whereabouts.  If you don’t object, 
please put food and water, so that she can survive.  We will supply with food!!

Tel. XXX




-Original Message-
From: Gloria B. Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:18 PM
To: Hideyo Yamamoto
Subject: Re: FW: Sam is lost - AC

Thanks Hideyo!  I did try to call Dr. Ryan, and left a message.  I know how 
hard it is sometimes to get in touch with those guys - really in 
demand.  I'm glad that you sent me the meditation.

You might live in south Texas?  I see that your email's as "riogrand.com"

Gloria

At 02:08 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote:


>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
>Yamamoto
>Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:08 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC
>
>Oh.. poor baby, he is probably very scared - important thing is that
>kids do not try to find him or chase him as they may think they are
>helping but actually it will scare him more, and you don't really want
>Sam to move or get scared away and go some place else where it might not
>be safe.  It's also helpful to put a flyer on an every single door of
>every single house instead of putting some on the posts on the street -
>every time I needed to look for a cat for myself or for someone, I did
>that way, and it has a much better success rate than putting them on
>post - then, you can make sure that they have your phone number with
>them at home and they usually keep the flyer for a while that way - it's
>a lot of work and it's definitely worth it - I had about 75% success
>rate of finding them this way.  Also, on the flyer, if they see a cat
>similar to Sam, ask them to put the food out for him so that he will
>stick around - and you can perhaps set a trap there once you confirm
>that he is eating there - food availability is very so important for Sam
>so that he will feel safe and will stay the place.
>
>I would really like it if you can call Dr. Geri Ryan to find out about
>the meditation information - some might think it's stupid, but she said
>that it's very effective - I wrote down some, but I don't think I have
>all the wording correctly -
>
>Also, again please call Marta Williams if you need the 2nd opinion - she
>is very very good about finding a lost animal - she can actually
>sometimes, visualize exactly what path they took to get where they
>arrived - sorry for being pushy - but I wanted to make sure that Sam is
>OK and can be found asap - please keep us posted - I will pray.
>
>The meditation goes like
>You imagine a golden koyo (?), coming from your heart center, reaching
>out into the world, searching and  for Sam. Latch onto like a magnet
>and guiding him safely home
>
>She suggested you meditate as many as you can (and your friends,
>too),she told me that it's amazing how well it works, and you can be
>re-united with your animals most amazing way.
>
>I just called the doctor to let me know of the missing wordings in the
>meditation in case you will use it.
>
>Kisses and hugs to Sam.
>
>Hideyo
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
>Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:49 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC
>
>No - not yet - sometimes hopeful, sometimes sad.  Sigh. We've gotten
>great
>advice.  Posting and passing out a flyer, a

RE: Sam is lost - AC

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Yuk Sewer is a possibility unfortunately -Did Diane say that
he seems like he is stuck some place - how did he describe his physical
and emotional state, is he starving?  Is he stuck??? They can often tell
you those things as well - those things will be helpful, too. - One good
thing is - Janet (Shepherd) really takes her time to really explore the
situation to find a cat - (she asks all sorts of different questions to
a cat to really find out where s/he is and how s/he get there)

I once had to rescue a kitty who was stuck under a  sewer - fortunately
he was vocal enough that you heard him, because there was no way that
anyone could ever see him since he was in the pipe under the sewer - 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC

Thanks, Tamara - good point.  Fortunately, the place where they've seen
him 
is a very nice old estate-type place, with lots of space, and places to 
hide.  One of our state senators lives there, and is understanding.  I 
said, "aren't you a city director or something" - I know that went over 
well. But I apologized profusely, and he's been nice anyway.

Just HOPING that Sam is not in the sewer - I will check on those. Lots
of 
other kinds of houses around though - including vacant ones - very mixed

neighborhood.

Gloria

At 01:53 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote:
>Gloria,
>
>Don't forget..."near water" may not be a stream or lake as would be our

>first assumption...but rather near a sewer drain...or inside of one
(cats 
>often like to go down there)wouldn't hurt to put your head down a
few 
>and call...or sit there with some freshly warmed tuna or fried chicken.
>
>Keeping you both in our prayers.
>T
>
>"Gloria B. Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>No - not yet - sometimes hopeful, sometimes sad. Sigh. We've gotten
great
>advice. Posting and passing out a flyer, and made a "business card"
with
>his picture on it. Offering a reward, but not saying on the poster how
much.
>
>Diane says she feels he's near water, and hiding. We've been
>looking. We've been out just about everyday, and get great help from
the
>kids in the neighborhood.
>
>Got it narrowed down to a few houses nearby, where they've seen a
Siamese
>cat, just haven't seen Sam.
>
>Gloria
>
>At 12:38 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote:
> >Any update on Sam??
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
> >Yamamoto
> >Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:58 AM
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC
> >
> >Good luck! Let me know what you find out - if you don't get what you
> >need, or need a second opinion (which I definitely recommend as non
one
> >is 100% accurate at 100% of the time, as they told me),
> >Please try, Marta Williams is very good, too(she published a book
called
> >"Learning their language", which is pretty amazing and Annette Martin
> >(?)-she also works with Police to help them find missing people
> >408-379-6669 as well.
> >
> >
> >My favorite person is Janet Shepherd -
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B.
Lane
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:24 PM
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC
> >
> >Thank you!! I did contact Jasmine - she said she didn't deal with
lost
> >kitties, but gave me the name of Diane Samsel, in South Carolina, and
I
> >have an appointment with her in the morning at 10am cst!! Thank you!!
> >
> >Gloria
> >
> >At 04:25 PM 6/1/2005, you wrote:
> > >Gloria, please contact ACs to see if they can help you find Sam,
this
> >is
> > >an emergency and I know they can help locate Sam ASAP
> > >
> > >I am leaving a couple of ACs names and the contact info to see if
they
> > >can help - they are all very good. Some also helped locate Sally's
lost
> > >cat, too.
> > >
> > >Good luck everything - Also, Dr. Geri Ryan has a meditation that
you
> >can
> > >use that is effective and bring an animal home quickly - please
mention
> > >that it's an emergency.
> > >
> > >Marta Williams - 707.829.8186
> > >Janet Shepherd (410) 664-9960
> > >Jasmine Indra - (207) 443-1125 510-325-2062 (cell)
> > >Dr. Geri Ryan (instructor) 510-569-6123-
> > >Annette Betcher 360-871-4774
> > >
> &

RE: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Interesting, thank you so much for your information - which state are
you located at ?  Was it easy to find a vet to follow dr. Plechner's
approach? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

   I think I did ask my vet about that and she said something about the 
way the pred works is better than a natural steriod for now.  And they 
are getting a very miniscual dose 1/4ccs once a week.  Even at their 
highest dose it was only 5ccs a day for 4 weeks, then we lowered it to 
2ccs everyday for 4 weeks, then to 1 ccs daily for 4 weeks and then 
lowered it again to 1/2ccs daily for 4 weeks and then went to 1/2ccs 
every 3 days for 4 weeks, and now we're at 1/2ccs once a week (just 
started that this week) and if their symptoms stay good we'll probably 
stay there until I get them completely switched to homemade and then get

them retested.  So they have been on it for quite a while.  I watch them

very closely :)

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RE: Sam is lost - AC

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

 all thoughts...trust what comes into your
mind...and follow eachshadow... with a pictured thought of your love for
Samthen relax and clear your mind again.





 





Picture other people in the neighborhood who are looking for him. 
Picture him being found by each in turn...always ..picture them bringing him to
you!  If you use the bare foot trail I suggested above, you should
"show" him that too. 





 





It seems like a lot, but do this over and over again.  When you
clear your mind...if you think you are starting to get an image that you are
not controlling, slowly wrap this image in the color you have chosen to
surround Sam when he is relaxedif any of the nervous colors sneak in...try
to sooth them out gently...but don't try to manipulate any shadows you are
seeing...don't try to turn them into what you want them to be...just let it
happen.  





 





You may not "see" anything yourself...but don't assume that
its not working.   It has been proven that animals retain an esp that
humans surpress.  They have trained cameras on dogs and cats that have
shown them waking up at the exact time their owners have "decided" to
head home.  Some dogs and cats can be trained to alert people to when a
seizure is comingIts the animals that have the skill more so than the
people...or even the animal communicators.  They can and do often receive,
even when we can allow ourselves to.  Trust them.





 





I know it sounds like a lot...and it might not even work for
everyone...the point is to try to relax enough to "send healing
vibes", "mediate", "transend your own 'reality'" all
that hippie new-aged stuff.  Whether you believe or not, many people SWEAR
by it.  Let's face it...it can't hurt. 





It never hurts to say a prayer before starting...or lighting a candle
for focus...





 





Anywaygood luck.  I'm keeping you both in my prayers.





 







"Gloria B. Lane"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





No - not yet - sometimes
hopeful, sometimes sad. Sigh. We've gotten great 
advice. Posting and passing out a flyer, and made a "business card"
with 
his picture on it. Offering a reward, but not saying on the poster how much.

Diane says she feels he's near water, and hiding. We've been 
looking. We've been out just about everyday, and get great help from the 
kids in the neighborhood.

Got it narrowed down to a few houses nearby, where they've seen a Siamese 
cat, just haven't seen Sam.

Gloria

At 12:38 PM 6/3/2005, you wrote:
>Any update on Sam??
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
>Yamamoto
>Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:58 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC
>
>Good luck! Let me know what you find out - if you don't get what you
>need, or need a second opinion (which I definitely recommend as non one
>is 100% accurate at 100% of the time, as they told me),
>Please try, Marta Williams is very good, too(she published a book called
>"Learning their language", which is pretty amazing and Annette
Martin
>(?)-she also works with Police to help them find missing people
>408-379-6669 as well.
>
>
>My favorite person is Janet Shepherd -
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:24 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: RE: Sam is lost - AC
>
>Thank you!! I did contact Jasmine - she said she didn't deal with lost
>kitties, but gave me the name of Diane Samsel, in South Carolina, and I
>have an appointment with her in the morning at 10am cst!! Thank you!!
>
>Gloria
>
>At 04:25 PM 6/1/2005, you wrote:
> >Gloria, please contact ACs to see if they can help you find Sam, this
>is
> >an emergency and I know they can help locate Sam ASAP
> >
> >I am leaving a couple of ACs names and the contact info to see if they
> >can help - they are all very good. Some also helped locate Sally's
lost
> >cat, too.
> >
> >Good luck everything - Also, Dr. Geri Ryan has a meditation that you
>can
> >use that is effective and bring an animal home quickly - please
mention
> >that it's an emergency.
> >
> >Marta Williams - 707.829.8186
> >Janet Shepherd (410) 664-9960
> >Jasmine Indra - (207) 443-1125 510-325-2062 (cell)
> >Dr. Geri Ryan (instructor) 510-569-6123-
> >Annette Betcher 360-871-4774
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
> >Kerry N.
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:05 PM
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemi

RE: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Yes, you are very lucky to have a vet like that, Belinda. I would move
to if I were you if your vet moves - 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

I'm in Washington state and the vet I've used for years is very open

to anything I suggest, I told her about it and faxed over some info and 
his website and she researched it and thought it sound interesting, she 
was surprised at their bloodwork results.  She is always going to 
continued education conferences, infact she just got back and learned 
some new stuff about heart disease.  Which is good since we are having 
to deal with it now.  She is learning acupuncture and more holistic 
things.  I've always said if she ever moves I'll have to sell my house 
and move too :)

-- 
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RE: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Oh my gosh - I thought I liked my vet - I just LOOOVE
yours!!  That's my kind of vet!!
I would almost want to move to where you are now just so that your vet
can take care of mine, too! (I have got over 50 of them - I do make lots
of visit to the vet office)-

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

PS.  She comes to the house for anything they don't need office 
equipment for (we even did their vaccines here the last two years, I 
hold them to draw blood), because she knows what a paranoid mom I am and

how I worry about stressing them (the clinic is a 3 minute drive from my

house), now that's special!!

-- 
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Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
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RE: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Do you think your vet would be willing to talk to my vet about her
experience in treatment of Dr. Plechnner?
I was going to talk to her about it, and I haven't - I am sure that she
will be open to this, but I feel more comfortable if she can talk to
someone who actually applied the practice like your vet - My vet, she is
also a very nice special person, too.

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

PS.  She comes to the house for anything they don't need office 
equipment for (we even did their vaccines here the last two years, I 
hold them to draw blood), because she knows what a paranoid mom I am and

how I worry about stressing them (the clinic is a 3 minute drive from my

house), now that's special!!

-- 
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RE: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Thank you, let me talk to my vet first to explain what I am thinking of
as she has no information on this treatment at all at this moment - as
soon as I get a chance, I will let you know.

Basically, if possible, I would like your vet to answer any questions
that my vet may have in terms of effectiveness or validity of the
treatment from what she can tell from her experience -

Thank you! 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

I can ask her, give me your vets number and exactly what you'd like 
her to talk to your vet about and I will ask her, I should be talking to

her today or tomorrow.

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RE: Sam is FOUND!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Gloria! What a great news!  I was doing meditations for Sam all weekend,
dozens and dozens of times - hoping that he and you will be reunited -
and someone I had a feeling that I would see your email saying that Sam
is found!!! 

I am going to let Dr. Ryan know that- she did tell me that it is so
amazing how you will be reunited with animals so quickly with the
meditation - I don't know how much credit the meditation should take -
but it seems like it's right after we got the meditation - anyway,
congratulations to your hard work and I am so haaapy for you and
Sam.  What is going to take care of Sam now?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Sam is FOUND!

We did!!  Lots of Meows!

At 09:11 PM 6/5/2005, you wrote:
>Wonderful news Gloria!  Betcha you did the meow-meow yourself all the
way 
>home :)
>
>Del
>- Original Message -
>From: Gloria B. Lane
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 11:09 PM
>Subject: RE: Sam is FOUND!
>
>Just want everybody to know that we FOUND SAM!
>
>Someone called me at 9:30 or so this morning, saying that she'd seen
our
>poster in the mini-mart, and saw a cat like Sam's description at her
>house.  I went right over, and there was Sam under her van in the
driveway.
>Wow!
>
>I couldn't squeeze under the van, but stretched out and gave Sam some
Fancy
>Feast.  I had to slide out at bit and at some point Sam got scared and
ran
>into the back yard.  We attracted some of the neighborhood kids, too.
>
>Long story short, he jumped over a fence, went under a vacant house,
where
>there was a live possum and an armadillo, so pretty soon he was outa
there
>- I was glad!  Headed for the next house and under it.  By that time,
Susan
>made it over to where it was all happening.
>
>Fortunately, the house he was under had only one opening, and had a
pretty
>neat large crawl space.  He kept hiding behind the big air conditioning
>stuff and we couldn't get to him.
>
>Susan - in spite of spiders, dirt  and claustrophobia - crawled under
and
>set a couple of traps laced with cat food, mackerel, salmon juice, and
a
>cup of milk.  We sat in the driveway just about all day, except for a 2
>hour break, checking under the house and eating junk food.
>
>About 9:15 or so tonight, Sam just walked up to the access door. Susan
>said, he's right there!  We talked to him and I reached my hand in and
>petted him, I think he remembered me - nd pretty soon grabbed him.  He
>tried to get away, and Susan scruffed him and got him to the car and WE
GOT
>OUR SAM BACK - YEAA! He was doing the Siamese meow-meow all the way
home,
>and it was great to hear!
>
>Thanks to you all for all your wonderful help!!
>
>Gloria
>
>
>
>
> > > >-Original Message-
> > > >From: 
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mia.org
> > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria
B.
> > >Lane
> > > >Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:55 PM
> > > >To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > >Subject: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi - Belinda would you add Sam to the Candlelight Service,
special
> > > >needs list? Sam is lost. He belonged to an older lady whose
family
> > > >we know. She became sick and I found a foster home.
> > > >
> > > >The foster mom accidently let Sam outside last weekend, and he
hasn't
> > > >been seen since. Susan and I've been going over and passing out
> > > >flyers and looking for him in the neighborhood.
> > > >
> > > >Sam is a 17 year old Siamese cat, never been outside before that
I
> > > >know of. Prayers and good thoughts and vibes are appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks -
> > > >
> > > >Gloria
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RE: Sam is FOUND!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

This answered my question, Gloria.  I am so glad that you have Sam, and
have an intension to keep him unless it's a REALLY good home - I hope he
will get to say with you for the rest of his life - or I would come pick
him up to adopt him otherwise - I think you guys are meant to be
together - and you and your friend Susan did such a good job!

Every time when I am fortunate to enough to be reunited with animals
that have been missing whether they are originally mine or not, I have a
very difficult time to let them go to someone else - as I feel like god
has given me the 2nd chance to take care of and I feel like I need to
make sure they are well taken care of for the rest of their lives..

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:49 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Sam is FOUND!

I've got Sam here at my house.. he's not going anywhere unless it's a  
REALLY good foster home, indoor only of course.  Right now he's  
snoozing!  I kept thinking about a kid's book, or documentary film,  
called Sam's Adventure, or Finding Sam, or something!

On Jun 5, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Nina wrote:

> Hmm... That makes me wonder... I'm sure you told this nice, cat  
> friendly, (but, cat-less at the moment), woman, Sam's story,  
> right?  Did this  woman seem like a suitable adopter except for the  
> fact that she's living with her Aunt?  Is the Aunt a cat-eater, or  
> anything?  If it looked like a good match, I might have pressed the  
> "well, you did find each other, maybe there's a reason, angle"!   
> Where is Sam going now?  Back to the same foster parent?
> Nina
>
> Gloria B. Lane wrote:
>
>
>> She'd been putting out food and milk, trying to attract his  
>> attention and feed him.  She's a cat-friendly person, but doesn't  
>> have cats where she lives now (with her Aunt).  Then the kids who  
>> came around had kittens - brought them down for us to see, and we  
>> put one in a carrier under the house.  Sam was REAL interested but  
>> not ready at that point.
>>
>> Gloria
>>
>> At 12:32 AM 6/5/2005, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Fantastic!  Hooray!  How is he?  Has the woman who called been  
>>> feeding him?  Oh Gloria, I'm so thrilled and relieved.  Well done!
>>> Nina
>>>
>>> Gloria B. Lane wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Just want everybody to know that we FOUND SAM!

 Someone called me at 9:30 or so this morning, saying that she'd  
 seen our poster in the mini-mart, and saw a cat like Sam's  
 description at her house.  I went right over, and there was Sam  
 under her van in the driveway. Wow!

 I couldn't squeeze under the van, but stretched out and gave Sam  
 some Fancy Feast.  I had to slide out at bit and at some point  
 Sam got scared and ran into the back yard.  We attracted some of  
 the neighborhood kids, too.

 Long story short, he jumped over a fence, went under a vacant  
 house, where there was a live possum and an armadillo, so pretty  
 soon he was outa there - I was glad!  Headed for the next house  
 and under it.  By that time, Susan made it over to where it was  
 all happening.

 Fortunately, the house he was under had only one opening, and  
 had a pretty neat large crawl space.  He kept hiding behind the  
 big air conditioning stuff and we couldn't get to him.

 Susan - in spite of spiders, dirt  and claustrophobia - crawled  
 under and set a couple of traps laced with cat food, mackerel,  
 salmon juice, and a cup of milk.  We sat in the driveway just  
 about all day, except for a 2 hour break, checking under the  
 house and eating junk food.

 About 9:15 or so tonight, Sam just walked up to the access door.  
 Susan said, he's right there!  We talked to him and I reached my  
 hand in and petted him, I think he remembered me - nd pretty  
 soon grabbed him.  He tried to get away, and Susan scruffed him  
 and got him to the car and WE GOT OUR SAM BACK - YEAA! He was  
 doing the Siamese meow-meow all the way home, and it was great  
 to hear!

 Thanks to you all for all your wonderful help!!

 Gloria





> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of  
> Gloria B.
> >Lane
> > >Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:55 PM
> > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >Subject: Sam is lost - add to Candlelight Service
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi - Belinda would you add Sam to the Candlelight Service,  
> special
> > >needs list? Sam is lost. He belonged to an older lady whose  
> family
> > >we know. She became sick and I found a foster home.
> > >
> > >The foster mom accidently let Sam outside last weekend, and  
> he hasn't
> > >been seen since. Susan and I've been going over and passing out
> > >flye

RE: Hello from Kat in Texas!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Welcome to the list, Kat!  How so
exciting to have you on board!

I enjoyed learning about your family very
much!  I too rescue cats and dogs – right now, I am owned by over 50
plus cats and 4 dogs – (I know it sounds like a nut to have so many) –
just that 90% of the cats I rescued were very feral (and some of are still very
feral), and I couldn’t release them back (as some were ill or injured),
and couldn’t find a home since they are not a lap cat – anyway, I
love them all so dearly and I try to do everything I can to take care of them. 
I work to feed them, and to pay vet bills…

 

I also do follow holistic practice for
care of my animals – I have been following for the past 6 or 7 years now –
I have a holistic vet, Todd Webster who helps me very much to take care of my
animals, and also I am a big fan of Dr. Don Hamilton (I just loved his books) –


 

Anyway, ever since Nina mentioned to me
about ACs, I have been so fascinated by this new world – and have had
opportunities to meet (on the phone) with several of them, and they are all so
incredible – I am in the process of setting a workshop with one of them
so that I can learn more about it – having so many animals, being able to
communicate with them become a big part of my life.

 

Anyway, I hope to learn more about you and
hope you can share lot of your experience and knowledge to us as we all are
dedicate to take care of our furry animals so very much!

 

Hideyo

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kathleen A. Berard
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:24
PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Hello from Kat in Texas!



 

Hello, everyone! I’m very excited to join you this
week! J Thank you, Nina, for inviting me. 

 

I live in San Antonio, Texas and am proudly owned by two
Weimaraners (Max, 8yo gray, and Barney, 3yo blue), Peaches (the perpetual foster
dog, a mixed breed of some sort of Pointer), and Miss Cali, the forever feral
cat who loves her life of luxury indoors. I was thrown into the holistic care
world 7 years ago because of Max. Weims are one of the breeds more prone to
vaccine reactions. Max had numerous health problems including seizures, and was
diagnosed as having rabies miasm. After 18 months of homeopathic treatment
(using LM potencies because he couldn’t handle the C potencies), and
being switched to a raw diet, he has recovered rather well, although he suffers
from hypothyroidism that homeopathy isn’t addressing. Max has been a
master teacher for me, opening my eyes to raw diets, alternative care and the
dangers of vaccination.

 

Barney came to me off the streets as a rescue because I
volunteered with Texas Weim Rescue at the time. Barney was so ill and
emaciated, he almost died. He required a blood transfusion due to a heavy
hookworm (and tapeworm) infestation, and then he came down with severe
pneumonia. 12 days of IV fluids and everything we could think of were given to
him (from homeopathy to supplements to conventional meds). He had 7 vets
working on him, one from as far away as Spain (homeopathic vet). This boy
had a will to live but nothing to work with, and it was touch and go for about
a month. He had a very rough beginning in so many ways (you can see his story
on my website, http://www.katberard.com/rescue_barney.htm).
After many long months of natural care, including a raw diet, Barney is doing
excellent. 

 

Because I was fostering but had not yet decided to adopt
Barney, I was required by Texas Weim Rescue to vaccinate him. Like Max, he had
reactions to vaccines. So I now have exemption letters on both boys that they
are not to be vaccinated again. Barney has been training with me for the past
15 months to be my Search And Rescue (SAR) canine partner, and he loves it!
You’ll find that story on my site as well. He’s helping me fulfill
a 10-year goal of doing SAR work. Barney has been a master teacher for me,
showing me that while natural care is important, so is addressing the mind,
emotions, and spirit of the animal. I utilized many different tools as well as
alternative care practitioners to help him release terror at the mental,
emotional, physical and spiritual levels. 

 

Peaches is a dog
who was ultimately “dumped” on me by a rescue group (long story). I
wasn’t looking for a third dog. That being so, I firmly believe the
animals you need (i.e., your “teachers”), and who need you, cross
your paths when the time is right. And that has been the case with Peaches. She
came to me with a serious incontinence problem caused by a broken tail that
damaged nerves in the lumbar region which enervate the bladder. We’ve
tried many different things (B vitamins, cornsilk, cranberry, you name it, and
finally resorting to low doses of DES out of desperation), to no avail (was
hoping for some sort of nerve stimulation/improvement). Now we’re doing
LM potencies of a homeopathic remedy and there has been some improvement
– it’s no longer a nightly event. She is lively, sweet,

RE: Hello from Kat in Texas!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Thank you very much, Kat.

I will try not overwhelm you with
questions – 

 

I have a similar question as to Nina just
asked – I take care of  so many feral cats,  and some of them
don’t have a name (not yet anyway) – could you still communicate
with the animal with no name, if so, how?

 

Hideyo

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kathleen A. Berard
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:43
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Hello from Kat in Texas!



 

 

Hi, Hideyo. Bless you for rescuing! I
could not imagine trying to take care of that many animals – my 4 are
enough for me! J

 

Please feel free to ask me questions about
animal communication or other topics, I’m happy to answer them.

 

Kat

 

 



Kathleen A.
Berard, Animal Communicator, Vibrational Essences Practitioner and
Holistic Care Consultant

KATALYST FOR ANIMAL
WHOLENESS, INC.  www.katberard.com    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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is to find it."  Oprah

 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:35
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Hello from Kat in Texas!

 

Welcome to the list, Kat!  How so
exciting to have you on board!

I enjoyed learning about your family very
much!  I too rescue cats and dogs – right now, I am owned by over 50
plus cats and 4 dogs – (I know it sounds like a nut to have so many)
– just that 90% of the cats I rescued were very feral (and some of are
still very feral), and I couldn’t release them back (as some were ill or
injured), and couldn’t find a home since they are not a lap cat –
anyway, I love them all so dearly and I try to do everything I can to take care
of them.  I work to feed them, and to pay vet bills…

 

I also do follow holistic practice for
care of my animals – I have been following for the past 6 or 7 years now
– I have a holistic vet, Todd Webster who helps me very much to take care
of my animals, and also I am a big fan of Dr. Don Hamilton (I just loved his
books) – 

 

Anyway, ever since Nina mentioned to me
about ACs, I have been so fascinated by this new world – and have had
opportunities to meet (on the phone) with several of them, and they are all so
incredible – I am in the process of setting a workshop with one of them
so that I can learn more about it – having so many animals, being able to
communicate with them become a big part of my life.

 

Anyway, I hope to learn more about you and
hope you can share lot of your experience and knowledge to us as we all are
dedicate to take care of our furry animals so very much!

 

Hideyo

 

RE: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Thank you very much for asking, Belinda.
I was going to take OB to the vet this afternoon, but instead I had to
bring  a stray cat I rescued on Saturday who seemed to have lots of
weight -
So, I will need to make another appointment for OB shortly - but I will
let you know as soon as I talk to my vet - thank you again very much!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:44 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Dr Plechner & Blood test - Hideyo

Hi,
   Talked to my vet last night and she would be happy to talk with your 
vet once she's ready :)

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RE: AC-Simba

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Lewis, I know you addressed this to Kat –
but I wanted to write to you with the meditation which may work to find Simba –
I have used it before myself and it worked like a miracle – please try to
meditate several times a day -  this was recommended by Dr. Ryan, she is
an instructor of ACs – she said that it has been effective for many
people and you will be reunited with missing animals in most amazing way.

 

You imagine a golden coil, coming from
your heart center reaching into the world,

Searching and probing for missing Simba.  Latch
onto him like a magnet, guiding him safely home.

 

I will also meditate for Simba until he is
found.

 

Hideyo

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lewis Faye
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:19
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: AC-Simba



 



Would you please do a reading for my baby, Simba?  I lost him
months ago and a few weeks ago, I thought I saw him. However, he climbed an
incline that I could not climb and took off before I could verify that it was
him. It may not have been him.  However when I called his name, he stopped
and looked at me.  However, I could not look at him long enough to really
tell for 100%.  He was probably chased out of my yard by stray dogs. 
The dogs have been destroyed.  They were vicious dogs.  





 





Here is his picture:





 





http://images.snapfish.com/343%3B2%3C%3A%3B23232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E233%3A%3D937%3D32%3A%3DXROQDF%3E23236%3A94699%3A2ot1lsi





 





Thank you,





Faye
"Kathleen A.
Berard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Animals that have crossed over are just as
present to us as they are in their physical reality. There is sometimes a shift
in energy, their personality still comes through but they may have a
“higher perspective” or spiritual message for you that helps you
move through life more easily. Here are some example questions that I offer to
clients, although they are welcome to ask anything they like as well as give me
messages to relay to the animal.

 

1) What did you like most about your life?

2) What did you like least?

3) What was your life’s purpose?

4) What would you like to tell me?

5) What frustrated you?

6) What can I learn from you?

7) How did you feel about the other animals/people in our home?

8) Have we had a past life together, or been together before in this
lifetime?

9) What were you teaching me in our time together?

10) What can you tell me to help me deal with my sadness at losing your
physical presence?

11) What can I do to make life better for the animals that are still with
me?

 

To talk with animals, get prepared as I
described in another email (“Animal Communication”) pick a quiet
time, light a candle, then sit down and write out or type out your questions
and what comes back. Be patient with yourself and the process, it does take
some practice but I have no doubt you can talk with her. Writing or typing it
puts you into a receptive mode, where you get out of that “left
brain” thinking and just learn to flow with the energy coming to you and
that you send out. I believe it also lets the animal know that you are serious
and committed to understanding them better by taking the time to write or type
it out. I think you’ll be surprised at the information you receive, that
you DO receive information. It’s just like talking with a person; you can
write out the questions and receive messages in your mind, or you can ask her
out loud and receive the messages, whatever feels most comfortable to you.

 

Kat

 

Kathleen A.
Berard, Animal Communicator, Vibrational Essences Practitioner and
Holistic Care Consultant

KATALYST FOR ANIMAL
WHOLENESS, INC.  www.katberard.com    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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know what your passion is, realize that one reason for your existence on Earth
is to find it."  Oprah



 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cherie A Gabbert
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:58
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: What is channeled
writing/how does communication work?

 



Kat,





I am interested in contacting a cat whom passed in January of this
year, is this possible?





Cherie





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need prayers please!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

One of my 4 year old babies, a mutt doggy, Corky (mix of Scottie,
Westie and Schnauzer) all of sudden started having bloody stools early this
morning – or I should say, there really was no stools, just tons and tons
of dark red bloods coming out like a flood so much came out that I almost
fainted – I never seen so much blood at one place– she has also
thrown up – I took her to her the emergency clinic getting some IV and
antibiotics – she bleeded there also.  After some testing, they
narrowed it down to a couple of things – and they are hoping that fluid
therapy and the antibiotics will treat her -  please pray for Cork’s
recovery – a poor baby, she is very scared there, she is never out of the
house and I really want to be able to bring her home soon!

 

Also, last Saturday, I rescued a boy kitty who I had been
feeding for several months now.  I  noticed that he lost lots of
weight (I hadn’t seen him for a couple of weeks) – and I took him
to the vet – everything seems to be OK except that on ELISA, he tested positive
on FIV – now I am having Cornell Lab to do the western blot (as I had a
couple of cats who tested positive on FIV via ELISA, and ended up negative
later) – anyway, now I have to figure out where to place him – he
must have belonged to someone a long time ago, as he is very friendly and used
to people. I talked to Carl (I named him Carl) via AC – Carl told my AC
that he used to be an indoor kitty when she was a kitten, and somehow he became
an outdoor kitty, and somehow, then he did not have a home anywhere – I asked
via AC, if he would like to stay with me and to be an indoor kitty, he said “he
would like that very much” – I hope his lost weight is just a
temporary, and I am so praying that the western blot will come back as negative
– please also pray for Carl’s well-being, he is such a sweet baby,
and he has had a rough life since he had lost home…

RE: and one more prayers also please!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I also have a stray kitty whom I have been
feeding, and who seems to be having some type of problems – I sort of
felt something was wrong a while ago, but I was not sure exactly what it was –
but yesterday morning, when George (his name) came to eat, he did not touch the
food at all – and I am so worried – according to my AC, he might
have a tooth infection and might have some problem with kidney – 

I need to trap him and take him to a vet ASAP
– last night, I saw him in my neigh hood (under the car – which is
his favorite place) and I set a trap, and he went inside a trap, but something (weed)
got caught in the trap door and the trap did not close and he was able to get
out from the trap (I am so stupid not being so careful) – now I am
worried that he wouldn’t go into the trap – 

 

Please pray that I can trap him very very soon
so that I can take him to the vet and take care of him – 

George told my AC that he is willing to try
to be an indoor kitty if I really wanted him to, but if he is not happy and
miserable there, he would like to be back on street – and I promised that
I would do let him go if that happened to be the case – he is a tom cat,
but he is not aggressive type at all.   My priority is to catch him first
before his condition gets any worse.  Please please pray that he will come to me
and I can trap him with no problem very very soon….

 

Thank you!

 

Hideyo

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: need prayers please!



 

One of my 4 year old babies, a mutt doggy, Corky (mix of
Scottie, Westie and Schnauzer) all of sudden started having bloody stools early
this morning – or I should say, there really was no stools, just tons and
tons of dark red bloods coming out like a flood so much came out that I almost
fainted – I never seen so much blood at one place– she has also
thrown up – I took her to her the emergency clinic getting some IV and
antibiotics – she bleeded there also.  After some testing, they
narrowed it down to a couple of things – and they are hoping that fluid
therapy and the antibiotics will treat her -  please pray for Cork’s
recovery – a poor baby, she is very scared there, she is never out of the
house and I really want to be able to bring her home soon!

 

Also, last Saturday, I rescued a boy kitty who I had been
feeding for several months now.  I  noticed that he lost lots of
weight (I hadn’t seen him for a couple of weeks) – and I took him
to the vet – everything seems to be OK except that on ELISA, he tested positive
on FIV – now I am having Cornell Lab to do the western blot (as I had a
couple of cats who tested positive on FIV via ELISA, and ended up negative
later) – anyway, now I have to figure out where to place him – he
must have belonged to someone a long time ago, as he is very friendly and used
to people. I talked to Carl (I named him Carl) via AC – Carl told my AC
that he used to be an indoor kitty when she was a kitten, and somehow he became
an outdoor kitty, and somehow, then he did not have a home anywhere – I
asked via AC, if he would like to stay with me and to be an indoor kitty, he
said “he would like that very much” – I hope his lost weight
is just a temporary, and I am so praying that the western blot will come back as
negative – please also pray for Carl’s well-being, he is such a
sweet baby, and he has had a rough life since he had lost home…

RE: need prayers please!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Thank you, Gloria.  I gave a remedy called phosphorus on Corky before I
took her to the vet, but when she gets home, I will definitely try
Arnica as well!  Thank you!

PS: how is Sam by the way? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: need prayers please!

Hideyo,

Many prayers coming for Cork and Carl -

FYI, I use homeopathic Arnica for bleeding, usually.  Use it on myself
for 
nosebleed and I used it on my beloved kitty Nicky before he died - mouth

bleeding, vet said cancer. Works great.

Gloria


At 03:08 PM 6/7/2005, you wrote:
>One of my 4 year old babies, a mutt doggy, Corky (mix of Scottie,
Westie 
>and Schnauzer) all of sudden started having bloody stools early this 
>morning - or I should say, there really was no stools, just tons and
tons 
>of dark red bloods coming out like a flood so much came out that I
almost 
>fainted - I never seen so much blood at one place- she has also thrown
up 
>- I took her to her the emergency clinic getting some IV and
antibiotics - 
>she bleeded there also.  After some testing, they narrowed it down to a

>couple of things - and they are hoping that fluid therapy and the 
>antibiotics will treat her -  please pray for Cork's recovery - a poor 
>baby, she is very scared there, she is never out of the house and I
really 
>want to be able to bring her home soon!
>
>Also, last Saturday, I rescued a boy kitty who I had been feeding for 
>several months now.  I  noticed that he lost lots of weight (I hadn't
seen 
>him for a couple of weeks) - and I took him to the vet - everything
seems 
>to be OK except that on ELISA, he tested positive on FIV - now I am
having 
>Cornell Lab to do the western blot (as I had a couple of cats who
tested 
>positive on FIV via ELISA, and ended up negative later) - anyway, now I

>have to figure out where to place him - he must have belonged to
someone a 
>long time ago, as he is very friendly and used to people. I talked to
Carl 
>(I named him Carl) via AC - Carl told my AC that he used to be an
indoor 
>kitty when she was a kitten, and somehow he became an outdoor kitty,
and 
>somehow, then he did not have a home anywhere - I asked via AC, if he 
>would like to stay with me and to be an indoor kitty, he said "he would

>like that very much" - I hope his lost weight is just a temporary, and
I 
>am so praying that the western blot will come back as negative - please

>also pray for Carl's well-being, he is such a sweet baby, and he has
had a 
>rough life since he had lost home...

RE: need prayers please!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Title: Message








Thank you, Kerry – it just makes me
mad that if his original owner was responsible enough, he wouldn’t have
to live on street like he has been, and he may not have gotten FIV.  He was not
even neutered – I probably should have taken him in several months ago
when I first saw him, then, he might not have gotten FIV either – that’s
my only regret – poor baby Carl – I hope he gains his weight back
very soon.

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:21
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: need prayers please!



 



Oh, Hideyo, I'm praying Corky is now on
the road to recovery and will be home really really soon. And I'm praying
Carl's result is negative. Sounds like he's home already. What a lucky kitty,
finding you. Already his life has improved a million-fold! Thanks for all that
you do for these little honeys. (I think of you, and then I think of that awful
feral-hating woman who calls herself a vicar...it's an upside-down world)





love and hugs, Kerry





-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 3:09
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: need prayers please!



One of my 4 year old babies, a mutt doggy, Corky (mix of
Scottie, Westie and Schnauzer) all of sudden started having bloody stools early
this morning – or I should say, there really was no stools, just tons and
tons of dark red bloods coming out like a flood so much came out that I almost
fainted – I never seen so much blood at one place– she has also
thrown up – I took her to her the emergency clinic getting some IV and
antibiotics – she bleeded there also.  After some testing, they narrowed
it down to a couple of things – and they are hoping that fluid therapy
and the antibiotics will treat her -  please pray for Cork’s
recovery – a poor baby, she is very scared there, she is never out of the
house and I really want to be able to bring her home soon!

 

Also, last Saturday, I rescued a boy kitty who I had been
feeding for several months now.  I  noticed that he lost lots of
weight (I hadn’t seen him for a couple of weeks) – and I took him
to the vet – everything seems to be OK except that on ELISA, he tested
positive on FIV – now I am having Cornell Lab to do the western blot (as
I had a couple of cats who tested positive on FIV via ELISA, and ended up
negative later) – anyway, now I have to figure out where to place him
– he must have belonged to someone a long time ago, as he is very
friendly and used to people. I talked to Carl (I named him Carl) via AC –
Carl told my AC that he used to be an indoor kitty when she was a kitten, and
somehow he became an outdoor kitty, and somehow, then he did not have a home
anywhere – I asked via AC, if he would like to stay with me and to be an
indoor kitty, he said “he would like that very much” – I hope
his lost weight is just a temporary, and I am so praying that the western blot
will come back as negative – please also pray for Carl’s
well-being, he is such a sweet baby, and he has had a rough life since he had
lost home…








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RE: need prayers please!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Thank you, Sandy and all of your babies.

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Sandy
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:15
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: need prayers please!



 



Prayers, purrs, barks and hugs are being sent to you!!





 





Sandy, Shades,
Tribyl, Spike and Angel Houdini







- Original Message - 





From: Hideyo Yamamoto 





To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org






Sent: Tuesday, June 07,
2005 4:08 PM





Subject: need prayers
please!





 



One of my 4 year old babies, a mutt doggy, Corky (mix of
Scottie, Westie and Schnauzer) all of sudden started having bloody stools early
this morning – or I should say, there really was no stools, just tons and
tons of dark red bloods coming out like a flood so much came out that I almost
fainted – I never seen so much blood at one place– she has also
thrown up – I took her to her the emergency clinic getting some IV and
antibiotics – she bleeded there also.  After some testing, they
narrowed it down to a couple of things – and they are hoping that fluid
therapy and the antibiotics will treat her -  please pray for Cork’s
recovery – a poor baby, she is very scared there, she is never out of the
house and I really want to be able to bring her home soon!

 

Also, last Saturday, I rescued a boy kitty who I had been
feeding for several months now.  I  noticed that he lost lots of
weight (I hadn’t seen him for a couple of weeks) – and I took him
to the vet – everything seems to be OK except that on ELISA, he tested
positive on FIV – now I am having Cornell Lab to do the western blot (as
I had a couple of cats who tested positive on FIV via ELISA, and ended up
negative later) – anyway, now I have to figure out where to place him
– he must have belonged to someone a long time ago, as he is very
friendly and used to people. I talked to Carl (I named him Carl) via AC –
Carl told my AC that he used to be an indoor kitty when she was a kitten, and
somehow he became an outdoor kitty, and somehow, then he did not have a home
anywhere – I asked via AC, if he would like to stay with me and to be an
indoor kitty, he said “he would like that very much” – I hope
his lost weight is just a temporary, and I am so praying that the western blot
will come back as negative – please also pray for Carl’s
well-being, he is such a sweet baby, and he has had a rough life since he had
lost home…

RE: need prayers please!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Thank you very much, Joan.  I just talked
to the vet at the emergency clinic, Corky has not been bleeding or vomiting
since she was on the antibiotics and IV fluid but she said Corky looks still a
bit uncomfortable -  they were also worried that she might become anemic since
she lost so much blood – the doc told me to call her back in a couple of
hours to see if I can take her home tonight - 

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joan Doljan
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:30
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: need prayers please!



 



Sending lots of healing vibes.





 





Joan

Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Thank you, Kerry – it just makes me
mad that if his original owner was responsible enough, he wouldn’t have
to live on street like he has been, and he may not have gotten FIV.  He
was not even neutered – I probably should have taken him in several
months ago when I first saw him, then, he might not have gotten FIV either
– that’s my only regret – poor baby Carl – I hope he
gains his weight back very soon.

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:21
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: need prayers please!



 



Oh, Hideyo, I'm praying Corky is now on
the road to recovery and will be home really really soon. And I'm praying
Carl's result is negative. Sounds like he's home already. What a lucky kitty,
finding you. Already his life has improved a million-fold! Thanks for all that
you do for these little honeys. (I think of you, and then I think of that awful
feral-hating woman who calls herself a vicar...it's an upside-down world)





love and hugs, Kerry





-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 3:09
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: need prayers please!



One of my 4 year old babies, a mutt doggy, Corky (mix of
Scottie, Westie and Schnauzer) all of sudden started having bloody stools early
this morning – or I should say, there really was no stools, just tons and
tons of dark red bloods coming out like a flood so much came out that I almost
fainted – I never seen so much blood at one place– she has also
thrown up – I took her to her the emergency clinic getting some IV and
antibiotics – she bleeded there also.  After some testing, they
narrowed it down to a couple of things – and they are hoping that fluid therapy
and the antibiotics will treat her -  please pray for Cork’s
recovery – a poor baby, she is very scared there, she is never out of the
house and I really want to be able to bring her home soon!

 

Also, last Saturday, I rescued a boy kitty who I had been
feeding for several months now.  I  noticed that he lost lots of
weight (I hadn’t seen him for a couple of weeks) – and I took him
to the vet – everything seems to be OK except that on ELISA, he tested
positive on FIV – now I am having Cornell Lab to do the western blot (as
I had a couple of cats who tested positive on FIV via ELISA, and ended up
negative later) – anyway, now I have to figure out where to place him
– he must have belonged to someone a long time ago, as he is very
friendly and used to people. I talked to Carl (I named him Carl) via AC –
Carl told my AC that he used to be an indoor kitty when she was a kitten, and
somehow he became an outdoor kitty, and somehow, then he did not have a home
anywhere – I asked via AC, if he would like to stay with me and to be an
indoor kitty, he said “he would like that very much” – I hope
his lost weight is just a temporary, and I am so praying that the western blot
will come back as negative – please also pray for Carl’s
well-being, he is such a sweet baby, and he has had a rough life since he had
lost home…








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 60606
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RE: need prayers please!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

You are right thought - I remember my vet telling me that when bleeding
involves "straining" - Arnica is especially helpful.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: need prayers please!

I've read to use Phorphorus too, but also have read that Arnica is used
in 
England sometimes after surgery, to stop bleeding.  It's always worked
for 
me.  I realize that's not the "method" to use in deciding on a remedy,
but 
for the situations I've been in, it's worked very well.

Gloria

At 03:23 PM 6/7/2005, you wrote:
>Thank you, Gloria.  I gave a remedy called phosphorus on Corky before I
>took her to the vet, but when she gets home, I will definitely try
>Arnica as well!  Thank you!
>
>PS: how is Sam by the way?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B.
Lane
>Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:22 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: need prayers please!
>
>Hideyo,
>
>Many prayers coming for Cork and Carl -
>
>FYI, I use homeopathic Arnica for bleeding, usually.  Use it on myself
>for
>nosebleed and I used it on my beloved kitty Nicky before he died -
mouth
>
>bleeding, vet said cancer. Works great.
>
>Gloria
>
>
>At 03:08 PM 6/7/2005, you wrote:
> >One of my 4 year old babies, a mutt doggy, Corky (mix of Scottie,
>Westie
> >and Schnauzer) all of sudden started having bloody stools early this
> >morning - or I should say, there really was no stools, just tons and
>tons
> >of dark red bloods coming out like a flood so much came out that I
>almost
> >fainted - I never seen so much blood at one place- she has also
thrown
>up
> >- I took her to her the emergency clinic getting some IV and
>antibiotics -
> >she bleeded there also.  After some testing, they narrowed it down to
a
>
> >couple of things - and they are hoping that fluid therapy and the
> >antibiotics will treat her -  please pray for Cork's recovery - a
poor
> >baby, she is very scared there, she is never out of the house and I
>really
> >want to be able to bring her home soon!
> >
> >Also, last Saturday, I rescued a boy kitty who I had been feeding for
> >several months now.  I  noticed that he lost lots of weight (I hadn't
>seen
> >him for a couple of weeks) - and I took him to the vet - everything
>seems
> >to be OK except that on ELISA, he tested positive on FIV - now I am
>having
> >Cornell Lab to do the western blot (as I had a couple of cats who
>tested
> >positive on FIV via ELISA, and ended up negative later) - anyway, now
I
>
> >have to figure out where to place him - he must have belonged to
>someone a
> >long time ago, as he is very friendly and used to people. I talked to
>Carl
> >(I named him Carl) via AC - Carl told my AC that he used to be an
>indoor
> >kitty when she was a kitten, and somehow he became an outdoor kitty,
>and
> >somehow, then he did not have a home anywhere - I asked via AC, if he
> >would like to stay with me and to be an indoor kitty, he said "he
would
>
> >like that very much" - I hope his lost weight is just a temporary,
and
>I
> >am so praying that the western blot will come back as negative -
please
>
> >also pray for Carl's well-being, he is such a sweet baby, and he has
>had a
> >rough life since he had lost home...

RE: AC-Simba

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Are you planning to consult with Kat on
Simba? 

I hope you will – it might give you
a good clue as to how to find him – 

 

I will be also praying that you and Simba
will be re-united very soon.  I have been re-united with a cat who had been
missing months in the past – don’t give up – he needs you to
continue to look for him.

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lewis Faye
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:54
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: AC-Simba



 



I did read the article.  It made some great points.  





 





There are several problems.  The reason I didn't chase after him
that day is because I couldn't climb the cliff and it was fenced off and posted
to boot.





 





The posting is a major problem.   The thing is people in this
area rarely post keep out signs.  It makes me wonder if the owners are
operating a meth lab which is currently in epidemic in our rural area. It is a
new development but we have had 2 houses explode within the last 6 months. On
this land, nearest house is well off the road past the signs.  In our part
of the world, people are very friendly and don't get bent out of shape with
their neighbors chasing a cat onto their land but these same folks don't post
signs either.  Plus, the land is fenced with barb wire and very thick with
brush. 





 





The cat I saw might not be him.  There was an orange tabby
cat run over on that same street. I stopped by that dead body every day for 2
weeks and examined every hair on the body.  It wasn't Simba but I couldn't
get it out of my mind that it was and had to keep reassuring myself.  I
see a red or orange tabby and I think Simba.






Nina
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Faye,
Did you read the article posted about methods of finding lost animals 
based on their personalities? Why don't you set a humane trap in the 
area you spotted him? If you don't own a trap, you can usually rent 
them from feed stores, or get a rescue in your area that cares about 
ferals to help. Write to me off list if you want some suggestions about 
effectively setting the trap. I know how hard the 'not knowing' is. I 
would trust your instincts on this, do you think he's still alive? Even 
if that wasn't Simba you spotted, somebody's out there that could use 
your help. You spotted that cat for a reason. Let me know what you 
decide to do.
Nina

Lewis Faye wrote:

> Nina, the cat I saw was thin and looked like he had lost weight 
> recently. Simba is a good hunter and there is plenty of mice, rats, 
> and voles for him to eat and he does eat them. I wish I could have 
> had a couple of more minutes to look at him to make sure. I was so 
> stunned at seeing him in that place, that my mind wasn't at its best. 
>
> */Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>
> Oh Faye, he's such a handsome man! I'm so sorry to hear Simba is
> still
> missing. He must be being fed by someone, if that was him. Have you
> done all the things that Gloria and her pals did in searching for
> Sam?
> Even if you have, it might be worth starting over. If someone has
> been
> feeding him, I'm sure they don't know that he has been missed all
> this
> time. I hope that was him, and that he'll finally be reunited with
> you
> somehow and soon.
> Nina
>
> Lewis Faye wrote:
>
> > Would you please do a reading for my baby, Simba? I lost him months
> > ago and a few weeks ago, I thought I saw him. However, he
> climbed an
> > incline that I could not climb and took off before I could
> verify that
> > it was him. It may not have been him. However when I called his
> name,
> > he stopped and looked at me. However, I could not look at him long
> > enough to really tell for 100%. He was probably chased out of my
> yard
> > by stray dogs. The dogs have been destroyed. They were vicious
> dogs.
> >
> > Here is his picture:
> >
> >
>
http://images.snapfish.com/343%3B2%3C%3A%3B23232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E233%3A%3D937%3D32%3A%3DXROQDF%3E23236%3A94699%3A2ot1lsi
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Faye
> > *//*
>
>
>
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RE: AC-Simba

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Keep us posted with Simba – 

Again, I will continue with the meditation
until he is found – but I hope you will too, as it will be the most
powerful coming from you than me -  and I hope people on the list will help
mediate for Simba, too.

 

You imagine a golden coil, coming from
your hear center, reaching into the world –

Searching and probing for missing Simba.  Latch
onto him like a magnet and guiding him safely home to Lewis.



 



 

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lewis Faye
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 3:39
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: AC-Simba



 



I will never stop looking for him I am afraid.  He was a feral cat
but he was, of all my cats, the most devoted to me.  He isn't people
friendly but I do believe he loved his family.  I don't think  he
ever would have run off if it hadn't been for those dogs.  





 





I will look into consulting with Kat. I haven't had time to check that
out yet.

Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Are you planning to consult with Kat on
Simba? 

I hope you will – it might give you
a good clue as to how to find him – 

 

I will be also praying that you and Simba
will be re-united very soon.  I have been re-united with a cat who had
been missing months in the past – don’t give up – he needs
you to continue to look for him.

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lewis Faye
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:54
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: AC-Simba



 



I did read the article.  It made some great points.  





 





There are several problems.  The reason I didn't chase after him
that day is because I couldn't climb the cliff and it was fenced off and posted
to boot.





 





The posting is a major problem.   The thing is people in this
area rarely post keep out signs.  It makes me wonder if the owners are
operating a meth lab which is currently in epidemic in our rural area. It is a
new development but we have had 2 houses explode within the last 6 months. On
this land, nearest house is well off the road past the signs.  In our part
of the world, people are very friendly and don't get bent out of shape with
their neighbors chasing a cat onto their land but these same folks don't post
signs either.  Plus, the land is fenced with barb wire and very thick with
brush. 





 





The cat I saw might not be him.  There was an orange tabby
cat run over on that same street. I stopped by that dead body every day for 2
weeks and examined every hair on the body.  It wasn't Simba but I couldn't
get it out of my mind that it was and had to keep reassuring myself.  I
see a red or orange tabby and I think Simba.






Nina
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Faye,
Did you read the article posted about methods of finding lost animals 
based on their personalities? Why don't you set a humane trap in the 
area you spotted him? If you don't own a trap, you can usually rent 
them from feed stores, or get a rescue in your area that cares about 
ferals to help. Write to me off list if you want some suggestions about 
effectively setting the trap. I know how hard the 'not knowing' is. I 
would trust your instincts on this, do you think he's still alive? Even 
if that wasn't Simba you spotted, somebody's out there that could use 
your help. You spotted that cat for a reason. Let me know what you 
decide to do.
Nina

Lewis Faye wrote:

> Nina, the cat I saw was thin and looked like he had lost weight 
> recently. Simba is a good hunter and there is plenty of mice, rats, 
> and voles for him to eat and he does eat them. I wish I could have 
> had a couple of more minutes to look at him to make sure. I was so 
> stunned at seeing him in that place, that my mind wasn't at its best. 
>
> */Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>
> Oh Faye, he's such a handsome man! I'm so sorry to hear Simba is
> still
> missing. He must be being fed by someone, if that was him. Have you
> done all the things that Gloria and her pals did in searching for
> Sam?
> Even if you have, it might be worth starting over. If someone has
> been
> feeding him, I'm sure they don't know that he has been missed all
> this
> time. I hope that was him, and that he'll finally be reunited with
> you
> somehow and soon.
> Nina
>
> Lewis Faye wrote:
>
> > Would you please do a reading for my baby, Simba? I lost him months
> > ago and a few weeks ago, I thought I saw him. However, he
> climbed an
> > incline that I could not climb and took off before I could
> verify that
> > it was him. It may not have been him. However when I called his
> name,
> > he stopped and looked at me. However, I could not look at him long
> > enough to really te

RE: Problem - I think?- aloe

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I use the same brand - and I give it to Ginger every day with other
supplements (TF, reishi and maitake mushrooms, DMG, Vitamns, astrogas,
CQ10, and etc...) it's ok to give to every day though, right?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

The brand of aloe gel I got for Gypsy is "Lily of the Desert".  No 
artificial colorings, no fragrance, no animal dirivatives, non animal 
tested.  Ingredients 99.5% certified organic aloe vera gel, carbomer 
940, (whatever the heck that is), Vita A,C, and E.  I found it at Whole 
Foods Market.
Nina 

Gloria B. Lane wrote:

> Good point, a few years back I researched that.  But it turned out 
> that only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if 
> ingested in large quantities.  A part of it is a strong purgative.  
> People can be sensitive too.  And related to skin reactions, in older 
> plants, there's an inner part that  the skin can  *sometimes* be 
> sensitive to.
>
> However,  the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is 
> processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant, 
> generally  - some are "gel" and some are "juice", and some are made 
> from those, and some have additives.  Some have sodium benzoate added,

> for example, which is also a no-no for cats.But they don't consist

> of the entire plant.  Consequently, it's not really true that anything

> with a piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats.  It does deserve some

> thought and questioning.
>
> As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do 
> give it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C,

> in my situation.  I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't 
> remember the kind - as I use the  homeopathic arnica more often.  And 
> of course, I don't feed cats the raw plant (or me either),  much less 
> large quantities, not that the little buggers would eat it, and I 
> don't use the raw plant topically.  There are several other brands 
> besides Georges that are perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got

> into a habit of buying Georges.
>
> Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but 
> that's my recollection.
>
> Best of luck -
>
> Gloria
>
>
>
>
> At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
>
>> Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if 
>> the cat is festidious about getting it off  Prob. not a good 
>> idea, sorry Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so 
>> after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!
>>
>> Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for 
>> the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.
>>
>> You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an 
>> over the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if 
>> licked off.
>>
>> Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Cherie,
>> Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about
>> infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's
>> 100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she
>> licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it
>> helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?
>> Nina
>>
>> Cherie A Gabbert wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky
>> > and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small
boned,
>> > I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
>> > Cherie
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
>

RE: Bramble

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Ditto, I will pray so very hard for your baby, Bramble! NO more
seizers
Michelle, try to contemplate very hard the situation, which you wish to
produce, then it will come true - imagine that he will no longer suffer
from seizers at all and recovers completely and live happily and
healthfully with you ever after..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bramble

Prayers coming for Bramble!  We are all pulling for you!  Gloria

At 01:34 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
>Thankyou for you support
>
>Well I stood in the vets sobbing my heart out - she considered the flea

>treatment and said she thinks it is highly unlikely but she couldn't
rule 
>it out. She had only ever seen seizures once from stronghold in a dog 
>whose owner administered it orally accidently - how silly can people
be. 
>And she said that she would expect continuous seizure if it was the
flea 
>treatment. I said I wasn't convinced and that more and more people are 
>experiencing adverse reactions but are not reporting them or the
companies 
>are not making them known.
>
>I stood there and whilst I had the doubt in my mind that the flea 
>treatment had exacerbated these symptoms as opposed to it being purely
FIV 
>related I was fighting for him. The vet said if he was her cat she
would 
>euthanase as he had suffered enough but she also said I have tried so
hard 
>along with Bramble and could see I wanted him to pull through. She was 
>surprised that he had had 48hrs been seizures and we agreed that if he
has 
>another seizure within 24 hrs then I will have him euthanased - but I
will 
>watch him for another 24hrs to see what happens.
>
>So fingers crossed - he is depressed at the moment but it is only a few

>hours since his last seizure.
>
>Michelle L

RE: Hideyo - how is Corky?

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Thank you for asking, Nina.  She is doing much better - I had to fight
with the vet at the emergency clinic to get her back though.  It was
very frustrating, because she was no longer bleeding or vomiting and
they told me that I could take her back after 12 hrs if she was no
longer showing any symptoms - so I went to pick her at 8 pm and they
completely ignored me until 10:30 pm - so I finally got mad and demand
to take her home. They did not want to let her go and asked why? They
said "she is doing really well, but they just want to keep her to make
sure she doesn't throw up" - so I said, I am very a responsible care
giver for my animals.  I can certainly watch her and I only live 10 mins
away from here.  If anything changes, I will bring her right back.  I
just felt that she would recover better at home when she is not anxious
and doesn't have to watch all the emergency episodes going on in front
of her face all night long - anyway, the still did not want to - but I
fought back - and got her back (I think they were just trying to make
easy money - by making her stay there for another 12 hrs. 

Anyway, she hasn't been bleeding and vomiting - and she is a happy girl
again.  Thank you again for all the prayers!!

Carl is also doing good - but something about him, he looks very sad - I
don't know why, but it makes me cry when I see him so sad - he eats
really really well, and he is very affectionate, but he just looks sad
at times (and my boyfriend, Greg said that same things about Carl) - I
am going to talk to Dr. Ryan (AC) to see why he is so sad - 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Hideyo - how is Corky?

You haven't updated us about Corky.  How is he?  Is he home?
Nina

RE: Fwd: Question about feral with FeLV

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Gloria, she probably does not get our messages from this posting right
since you forwarded her message to us - could you forward it to her?  I
will also try to post it on her list group as well if it will let me -

Here's my message to this person -
I had a similar situation with Ginger (who was a feral)couple of months
later since I trapped her - she was eating and completely stopped eating
for a reason - that was very odd - anyway, I had given V-B -12 shots
(which might be difficult for you to give -), but I also had given
homeopathic remedy pallet - called Sulphur and Pulsatilla - don't mix
them - but try one first and see if it works - all you have to do is to
put a several pallets in his water bowl - and leaves for a day or so and
watch him - and wait for 24 hours or so, if he doesn't get better, try
the other - I would personally try Sulphur first.  You can get it at a
health food store -

I will pray that both of your babies will only get better!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:45 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Question about feral with FeLV

Gloria,
What a wonderful human this person is!  I can't tell you if this is 
'normal' behavior for cats due to a weather change.  The ferals 
shouldn't be acting any different than any of her other cats in the same

circumstances.  I would suggest adding ice to their water bowls during 
the hottest times of the day, that may help cool them down somewhat.  
How about a plastic pool float filled with water and covered with a 
sheet for them to lie on in the shade?  The fact that they're both not 
eating is interesting.  How long has she had them?  The first thing that

comes to mind is that perhaps they are depressed about their captive 
situation.  Could it be they've stopped eating because they want to be 
free again?  I do hope that's not it, because of the male's FeLV status,

she couldn't release him, even if she wanted to.  Does she have plenty 
of environmental stimulus for them to keep their minds and bodies 
active?  I would try adding something new to climb on to the enclosure, 
maybe a new hiding place, etc.  Is there a way for them to get up high 
and survey the surrounding territory?  I really feel for her.  I know 
what it's like to do everything you can to try and help, only to realize

that our intervention is causing them distress.  Is the male displaying 
any symptoms of sickness besides the lack of appetite?  If she wants 
someone to bounce ideas off of, or someone to just commiserate, please 
give her my email address. 
Sending lots of positive energy,
Nina

Gloria B. Lane wrote:

>
>> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:20:30 -0500
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> From: "Gloria B. Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Question about feral with FeLV
>>
>> Well, in my opinion, you have a wonderful set up there and certainly 
>> did the right thing for the ferals.
>>
>> I don't know about the eating - have they thrown up?  Diarrhea?  
>> etc.  Have you tried extremely tastey wet kitty food,  or sardines or

>> fried chicken, to see if they can be tempted?
>>
>> There's a more active list, if you're interested, go to 
>> felineleukemia.org.- Meanwhile, I"ll forward your message to that 
>> group -
>>
>> Gloria
>> in Arkansas
>>
>> At 11:00 AM 6/9/2005, you wrote:
>>
>>> Is there anyone in this group with experience with FERAL cats with
>>> feline leukemia?  Specifically - their eating habits during hot
>>> weather.
>>>
>>> We have a feral cat that was shot with a bb gun back in March.  We
>>> trapped him and had him treated by an animal eye specialist.  He
lost
>>> his eye.  Only after the eye surgery, etc. did we learn he was
>>> leukemia positive.  He was one-half of a bonded couple.
>>>
>>> We have an outdoor enclosure for our regular indoor cats - for them
>>> to spend some time each day outdoors.  SO - after we learned of the
>>> feral's situation, we built a SEPARATE enclosure in our back yard
for
>>> this bonded pair.  His girlfriend is leukemia negative and has now
>>> been through the series of vaccinations.  Keeping them separate was
>>> not an option as she was stressing big time (i.e., losing hair with
>>> no physical explanation, etc.).  And yes, we have had vet care for
>>> both of them.
>>>
>>> The feral recovered from the eye situation and had been doing very
>>> well until last weekend when he just all of a sudden stopped eating
>>> very much.  His girlfriend has also cut way, way back on her food
>>> intake.  I live in south Texas and it is very hot here during this
>>> time of the year.
>>>
>>> Both cats still look to be in pretty good shape.  If it were ONLY
the
>>> leukemic cat that wasn't eating, I would know it was his disease;
>>> however with BOTH of them cutting back, I am wondering if it is an
>>> instinctual response to the weather.  Obviously, however, I am more
>>> concerned with him not eating as he has less reser

RE: Hideyo - how is Corky?

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

When I talked to Jasmine (AC), about being an indoor kitty - he said to
her that he would like that very much - and I think he likes to be an
indoor kitty (he doesn't seem to want to get out or anything) - but he
might be lonely - I don't know.  Right now, he lives in a townhouse next
to mine (my boyfriend lives there) - by himself, until we get
clarifications on his viral status - on ELISA, he is FIV positive -  I
have another cat, Squeaky (if you remember her..), who has always been
tested negative on FIV on snap shot test (three times now), but has been
either positive or equivocal on ELISA, and has been negative or
equivocal on Western Blot - and I don't know what to think - I also so
much wanted to integrate her with everyone else, and I am not sure what
to do with this uncertain situation - I know that FIV does not get
transmitted that easily, but I have so many cats that I feel like I
shouldn't mix them since some of my babies are older --  I know it will
all work out - but I just don't know what to do.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Hideyo - how is Corky?

Hideyo,
Pardon me, SHE!  I'm glad to hear Corky is feeling so much better.  What

a relief.  Do you still not know what caused it?  I hear you about the 
frustrations of getting our kids out of "intensive care" at the vet's 
office!  Perhaps they were just trying to pad the bill, but in their 
defense, there are few owners like the ones on this list.  Most people 
don't take the care we do with sick, or injured animals.  I remember 
watching a story on animal planet about a police dog that had been 
injured and was suppose to be kept quiet while recuperating.  Well the 
cop partner, that should have known better, didn't do whatever it was 
that was necessary and the dog ended up reinjuring himself and had to be

pts.  Man did that frustrate me!

I'm sorry Carl is unhappy.  Didn't the AC tell you that he was enjoying 
his life as a feral and might not want to be a house kitty?  Maybe he's 
just going through a period of adjustment and will come to see the 
benefits of owning humans. 

Keep us informed, as always I'm sending healing, soothing energy your
way,
Nina

FW: [FivCats] Re: integrating FIV+ with negatives

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I can’t remember who it was –
someone on this list found the study that I had read about regarding FIV
transmission with casual contacts at multi cat household a long time ago –

 

Nina, do you remember?  I think you
were part of the conversation on this, too.









From: Hideyo Yamamoto 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:58
PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [FivCats] Re:
integrating FIV+ with negatives



 

I will try – I thought it was some
one from this list – but if not, maybe it was some one from FeLV support list
who actually had the research information that I had read about a long time ago
-  she happens to keep all archive information of any interesting articles
about FIV/FeLV stuff - 

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:58
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [FivCats] Re:
integrating FIV+ with negatives



 

-- Original
message --
From: "Hideyo Yamamoto"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I know we discussed this before - but I need
to ask again.
> 
> Are there anyone on the list who integrated
FIV+ with negatives and a
> negative became positive at all by living
together?
> 
> There is a research (I mentioned before, too)
done, it shows that,
> casual contacts (with no apparent biting
involved) can transmit FIV to
> negatives at a multi household.

Could you send a link (or links) to those research
studies?  Since none of us on this list have had this happen, I'm sure we'd
all be interested in those studies  - who conducted them, how they were
done, etc.

--
Marge, Sugar, Spice, Creamsicle (FIV+), and Callie
Bridge Kitties Felix and Oscar
Kitties at <http://tinyurl.com/s8ab>
  
  
 
    
 
    
 
   
  
 
  
 
    
 
    







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RE: [FivCats] Re: integrating FIV+ with negatives

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Nina, I just found it – thank you!

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:00
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: FW: [FivCats] Re:
integrating FIV+ with negatives



 

I can’t remember who it was – someone
on this list found the study that I had read about regarding FIV transmission
with casual contacts at multi cat household a long time ago –

 

Nina, do you remember?  I think you
were part of the conversation on this, too.









From: Hideyo Yamamoto 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:58
PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [FivCats] Re:
integrating FIV+ with negatives



 

I will try – I thought it was some
one from this list – but if not, maybe it was some one from FeLV support
list who actually had the research information that I had read about a long
time ago -  she happens to keep all archive information of any interesting
articles about FIV/FeLV stuff - 

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:58
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [FivCats] Re:
integrating FIV+ with negatives



 

-- Original
message --
From: "Hideyo Yamamoto"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I know we discussed this before - but I need
to ask again.
> 
> Are there anyone on the list who integrated
FIV+ with negatives and a
> negative became positive at all by living
together?
> 
> There is a research (I mentioned before, too)
done, it shows that,
> casual contacts (with no apparent biting
involved) can transmit FIV to
> negatives at a multi household.

Could you send a link (or links) to those research
studies?  Since none of us on this list have had this happen, I'm sure
we'd all be interested in those studies  - who conducted them, how they
were done, etc.

--
Marge, Sugar, Spice, Creamsicle (FIV+), and Callie
Bridge Kitties Felix and Oscar
Kitties at <http://tinyurl.com/s8ab>
  
  
 
    
 
    
 
   
  
 
  
 
    
 
    







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RE: Ginger is eating with Periactin

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Michelle, how is Ginger?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Ginger is eating with Periactin

I would absolutely postpone the ultrasound.
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Last night I got the Vix vaporizer working (Ginger still is sniffly) 
> and gave her periactin for the first time, not expecting much because 
> I have never found periacting (cyrpoheptadine) to get cats or dogs 
> eating. An hour later I went in to see her and she went over to the 
> bowl and ate half a can of fancy feast.  This morning when she got up 
> she went right over to the bowls and nibbled on a little bit of fancy 
> feast left from last night and then stopped. I brought her new stuff 
> and she did not seem interested, so I gave her periactin again.  I 
> just went in and she ate some, maybe 1/8 or 1/4 of a can.  Definite 
> improvement.  She is playing like crazy, trying to get out of the 
> bedroom, etc. Other than not eating  normally without a stimulant and 
> being a little bit stuffy, she is acting normal.
>  
> She has her ultrasound scheduled for tomorrow. I just left them a 
> message explaining what is going on and asking if they think it is ok 
> to postpone it again to see if she will pick up eating on her own 
> without periactin over the next few days. What do you think?
>  
> Michelle

thanking for the incredible support system

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I know people on this list make a lot of comments on this,
but I also personally want to thank you for all the support you give for me and
for my babies, and for anyone who may need the support for that matter – 

I really love this list as we can talk about anything (any
OT stuff) – 

I used to be on FIP list since I have many many corona virus
kitties and I was very concerned about FIPs – but the mediator on the
list is very controlling and mean – if you questions anything she says
she gets made and took you off the list – she only believes in certain
treatment and she doesn’t let you argue about it otherwise – and she
does not allow any OT subjects – I really liked everyone else on that
list, but couldn’t stand the mediator (and so did other people on the
list) –

 

Anyway, thank you so very much for your support – don’t’
know what to do without you guys – I am glad that I found you!

RE: any info on this poor kitty

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Title: Message








I have a colleague who has a 12 year old
boy kitty – recently he started going bathroom (both 1 & 2) all over
the house other than litter box – his eyes also started twitching and
lost some hair – she wanted to know what’s going on – I suggested
to take him to a vet and do a blood work to eliminate any major organ related
stuff – but she is in a very serious financial problem right now, and she
said that she couldn’t afford to do so –

 

I almost wanted to offer to pay for her
vet bill (like I have an money left), but if you have any insights on this, I
would really appreciate it – these symptoms are very hard ones to figure
out as they could be caused any number of things (both emotional and medical),
but any insight is appreciated. Thank you!

 

RE: Bramble (help guys, need advise)

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

If you ever need for an antibiotics (clavormox or amoxicillin), let me
know - I will try to get it for you.  My vets prescribes to me for my
feral cats for the very reason you mentioned - there is no way that I
can catch some of them to bring it to a vet - I also have a friend who
is a vet tech - so if you need them, try to contact me, and I will ship
it to you.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:59 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Bramble (help guys, need advise)

I'm so sorry, Nina---I TOTALLY relate. My vets are just the same--they
will not prescribe antibiotics for a URI e.g. unless they see the cat
first. They don't seem to have any idea of the stress involved--and the
effect on all the kitties of all that stress--in bringing in a feral
FeLV cat.
And while in some ways having a housecall vet was better, it still did
not avoid the need to catch and the stress involved (now there are 3
giants, not just 1--me-- running around the room creating havoc).
I've been telling friends for a year that I need to find myself a nice
vet, with a big house/lots of rooms and a yard so i can expand the
brood, but so far zippo. 
Kerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bramble (help guys, need advise)


Michelle L.,
Formulate your questions and what Bramble has been prescribed/tested for

so I can ask my vet's office.  They've been incredibly indulgent with me

in the past, so I'm hoping they will help.  I'm not a vet, so I can't 
say what the reason would be to not give Bramble seizure meds, (are we 
talking Phenobarbital here?) while on interferon.  It doesn't make sense

to me, but maybe there's some sort of dangerous interaction that we're 
not aware of.  As far as I know from my research on interferon, it 
doesn't make sense.  Something else that makes NO SENSE AT ALL to me is,

if this vet is so strongly advocating euthanasia, why is he/she so 
concerned with prescribing medication that may eliviate symptoms?  If 
he's given up on Bramble, why won't he do what  MIGHT help? 

I just don't understand vets sometimes.  I have a feral that has been 
sliding downhill lately and I've been extremely concerned.  I've been 
talking to one of the vets I go to about her and her office agreed to 
see her, if I can catch her.  She's shown symptoms of a URI, (which seem

to be getting better finally :) ), was listless, not eating.  She's 
scratched the fur off her neck and has a nasty wound there.  Yesterday, 
I saw her shaking her head, and yep, I got close enough to see she has a

nasty case of ear mite.  I begged this vet to please prescribe me 
Acarexx ivermectin, (one application into the ears and earmites are 
gone).  I could net her admin the ivermectin, topical her with 
Revolution and let her go.  So much less stressful than having to 
capture her and bring her in.  Well, the vet won't do it!  I really 
should have married a vet!  I desperately need one that understands what

one-on-one rescuers go through.  Quick, someone tell me a nice story 
about a compassionate vet!
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hey guys... I've been talking to Michelle privately, and she said 
> something that worries me:
>  
> "Forgot to say the vet wouldn't try anything for the seizures due to 
> him being on interferon - she thinks he should be euthanased now. 
> Problem I have is that I need to stay with that particular branch of 
> vets because the sanctuary pay the bills. However I am seeking advice 
> from neurology if they will give it."
>  
> Have any of you had any cats that have been on Interferon and been 
> treated for seizures? Michelle's vet wont give Bramble any meds to 
> stop the seizures just because he is in the Interferon! Does this 
> sound reasonable to you guys? Or is it as silly and unreasonable as it

> sounds? Do seizure meds interact with Interferon?
>  
> I feel so bad for her, she seems stuck with this one vet who doesn't 
> seem to be too informed because of funding issues.
>
> Jenn
> http://ucat.us
> http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
>  
>

~~~
> I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special 
> needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
> Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they 
> add up until she earns a free can of formula!
> PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
>  
> If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing 
> address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
>
>---
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>
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RE: Interferon and seizure meds

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Ask your vet to contact Michelle Rose - the
number is 805-339-2290 (Nina’s vet) – I also a received a packet,
if you want me to make a copy for you, I can.

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barbara Baass
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:30
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Interferon and
seizure meds



 



Nina,





What is
your vets name & address, so we can get the information packet on the
interferon.





Barbara
Baass

Nina
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Barbara,
I know you asked Michelle this question, but I thought I'd jump in 
here. Michelle lives in the UK
where Feline Interferon Omega has been 
approved for use. It's easier to get, (and I'm guessing cheaper too!) 
there. In the US,
we have to have our vets apply for a special 
dispensation to the FDA for approval in each individual case. I've done 
that, along with a couple other people on the list. If you're 
interested, check the archives for further information about it and 
getting it. My vet's office has developed an information packet that 
they happily share with other vets to speed the process.
Nina

Barbara Baass wrote:

> *Michelle,*
> *Where did you get this interferon?*
> *Barbara Baass*
> *//*






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Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

RE: Ginger is eating with Periactin

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

I am sure it was – I am so so glad
that she is doing so well!  Thank you for letting me know.

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:01
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Ginger is eating with
Periactin



 





Ginger is still at my mom's in NJ, because I am moving there
in a month and, after taking her down there when I went to care for Pepsi, my
horse, I did not want to put her through 2 more 5 hour car rides to bring her
back to MA and then down to NJ again. So she is still there. She was doing
really well by the time I left down there, eating great.  According to my
mom she is doing even better now-- eating 2-3 small cans of food a day plus dry
food and drinking and playing a lot.  So I have my fingers crossed that it
was just the surgery and the URI that she got afterwards.  





 





Thanks for asking,





Michelle





 





 





In a message dated 6/9/2005 5:39:18 PM Eastern Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





Michelle, how is Ginger?

RE: Re: FIP

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Kristi, there is a really active support group for FIP - they are many
many supportive educated people on the list - you might want to visit
tem (it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think - 

Also, you might want to visit the below website - this is the excellent
website for FIP - there is a doctor called, Dr. Addie who has dedicated
her last two decades to FIP research - she is at University of Glasgow -
she is a very caring person as far as I can tell.  There is really no
100% accurate diagnostic method until after the fact, but it gives you
lots of information as many of FIP symptoms are similar to lots of other
illness which can be treatable - also recently dr. Addie reported in her
newsletter that 25% of FIP cases had a success treating them with
Interferon as well - if you send a blood sample she can run blood
analysis (they look at combinations of different things)whether the
kitty has FIP or not - I think 75% or 80 % of samples sent to her ended
up not being FIP according to her blood analysis.

I have many corona virus kitties, so I educated my self at lot on this
subject for the past several years - the fever could be something else -
please don't worry - I have kittens who developed 106 or 107 fever for a
week or more and I was very worried, but ended up not being FIP (it
happened to several of my kitties)

I pray that your kitty will get better very very soon.

Dr. Addie's website on FIP
http://www.dr-addie.com/
\

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Re: FIP

thanx all for the great info.   I feel better about my cats being
exsposed to her but am still concerned as to wether or not she has FIP.
It almost temp taking time I'll let you know.
Kristi

> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karolyn Lount)
> Date: 2005/06/12 Sun PM 07:12:39 EDT
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: FIP
> 
> Hi, If it is FIP you may be in luck as I was. I had 18 FeLV+ cats and
> was fostering a cat that turned out to have FIP and had to be put
down.
> I sweated it out for several mos. and I was very lucky that to my
> knowedge none of my cats came down with it. If they did they were able
> to fight it off. My Vet told me it would be a waste of my money to
have
> them tested for it. He told me if they did have it there was nothing I
> could do about it. Many cats are able to fight it off and they might
end
> up being a carrier. That was 10yrs. ago and todate I have not had a
cat
> show signs of having it.
> 
> 

RE: Re: FIP

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Please do - I will be sending a healing energy for your kitties!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Re: FIP

thank you that info was great, her fever is gone, but i'm stll taking
her in for some routine bloodwork because she is still always sleeping
and very quiet- she doesn't play at all.  I'm pretty sure she just needs
to put some weight in and get her strength back- but better safe than
sorry.  I'll let you all know what her blood work says.
====
From: "Hideyo Yamamoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2005/06/13 Mon PM 12:02:26 EDT
To: 
Subject: RE: Re: FIP

Kristi, there is a really active support group for FIP - they are many
many supportive educated people on the list - you might want to visit
tem (it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think - 

Also, you might want to visit the below website - this is the excellent
website for FIP - there is a doctor called, Dr. Addie who has dedicated
her last two decades to FIP research - she is at University of Glasgow -
she is a very caring person as far as I can tell.  There is really no
100% accurate diagnostic method until after the fact, but it gives you
lots of information as many of FIP symptoms are similar to lots of other
illness which can be treatable - also recently dr. Addie reported in her
newsletter that 25% of FIP cases had a success treating them with
Interferon as well - if you send a blood sample she can run blood
analysis (they look at combinations of different things)whether the
kitty has FIP or not - I think 75% or 80 % of samples sent to her ended
up not being FIP according to her blood analysis.

I have many corona virus kitties, so I educated my self at lot on this
subject for the past several years - the fever could be something else -
please don't worry - I have kittens who developed 106 or 107 fever for a
week or more and I was very worried, but ended up not being FIP (it
happened to several of my kitties)

I pray that your kitty will get better very very soon.

Dr. Addie's website on FIP
http://www.dr-addie.com/
\

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Re: FIP

thanx all for the great info.   I feel better about my cats being
exsposed to her but am still concerned as to wether or not she has FIP.
It almost temp taking time I'll let you know.
Kristi

> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karolyn Lount)
> Date: 2005/06/12 Sun PM 07:12:39 EDT
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: FIP
> 
> Hi, If it is FIP you may be in luck as I was. I had 18 FeLV+ cats and
> was fostering a cat that turned out to have FIP and had to be put
down.
> I sweated it out for several mos. and I was very lucky that to my
> knowedge none of my cats came down with it. If they did they were able
> to fight it off. My Vet told me it would be a waste of my money to
have
> them tested for it. He told me if they did have it there was nothing I
> could do about it. Many cats are able to fight it off and they might
end
> up being a carrier. That was 10yrs. ago and todate I have not had a
cat
> show signs of having it.
> 
> 

RE: she's better, he's worse- aargh!

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Kristi, could you give her liver shake
with a syringe – I had to give it that way to Ginger when she stopped
eating for two weeks – 

I will be praying for your baby!

 

Hideyo 

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:31
AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: she's better, he's
worse- aargh!



 





Kristi, I am so sorry about Val. 
The dex usually takes a few hours to kick in. I am hoping that it has some
effect on him.  Are you doing a depo shot too, or keeping him on pred?





 





Have you tried the liver shake? Some cats
will eat that when they will not eat anything else.  Also, sometimes
syringing a little bit of food makes them want to eat-- it gets them
started.  Sometimes sour cream works when nothing else does too.  Or
deli slices of turkey or ham or roast beef.  And sometimes nothing works.





 





Please let us know how he does. I will
keep thinking about him and you.





Michelle





 





In a message dated 6/13/05 10:57:50 AM
Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





on the other hand Val is worse, started
the dex injection today and I'm going to give him sq fluids, other than that
I've just been trying to get him to eat, he won't even lick tuna juice and I've
tried all the mixes i've read about on here before so...I had a talk with him
this morning and let him know that whenever he is ready its ok, i think its
soon.  I wish he would fall asleep here with his borthers and sisiters, it
would be so nice for him, they love him so much and one in particular is so
attached to him I concerned for her after, she has the others though so
hopefully she'll understand.  
sadly, Kristi







 

RE: Vitamin C questions (taste)

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Try sodium ascorbate form of V-C –
this is the only format that my cats will eat with the food – it doesn’t’
taste bad at all –I sprinkle on their dry food and they eat with no
problem, which is excellent – is impossible to do with other type of V-C –
they all taste awful!

You used to see this form of V-C at every
health store – now it’s very hard to find – I usually get it
on line – here’s the link –

 

http://www.iherb.com/cpowdersn.html

 

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:26
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Vitamin C questions
(taste)



 



I tried to use powdered Vit C, it's the
Extra-C brand:





http://store.yahoo.com/healthforyourpet/xtinviccopob.html





But it tastes HORRIBLE, and I can barely
make myself eat it without gagging... and was never able to get much inside a
cat either. Do they all taste this bad?






Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html






 





~~~
I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up
until she earns a free can of formula!
PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!





 





If you use KMR, even just one can, please
ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!

RE: 6 week old kitten fever question

[Hideyo Yamamoto]

Hi,  I have to share my experience that
it’s pretty common with “fevers with unknown cause” – I
had about a dozen of my cats going through the same experience – all the
blood work came back pretty normal, but some had a high fever over 106 –
my vets couldn’t figure out what’s wrong with them and she is a very
capable vet – it was probably some type of virus related – but all
my cats had no other symptoms other than fever – that’s why people
usually want to blame on FIP as “fevers with unknown cause” is
pretty common symptom for FIP – I was so scared every time when my cats
get high fever because I always thought – oh no they have FIP – but
fortunately that never really was the case – 

 

Also, from an alternative medicine stand
point, high fever is not considered to be such as a bad thing if it does not
last more than a few days (though I had some kitties who’s fever did not
go down over a week) – in their interpretation, it’s animal’s
way of trying to deal with something internally, they are trying to fight off
something – so my holistic vet always discourage to try to stop the fever
with an antibiotic is not necessary the best thing – on the other hand –
low fever is a very bad thing – I lost my little boy Henry – (possible
to FIP, but I never confirmed) – his body was started shutting down, by
the time I went to the emergency, his temp was down to 65 or something –
I was so sad when he crossed – 

 

My baby, Anchovy’s fever was up to
106.5, or higher, so high the thermometer did not even register – I freaked
out and the vet put ice all over her – then she injected her the fever
reducer – but she recovered within two weeks- with no antibiotics or
anything.

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:04
AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: 6 week old kitten
fever question



 



I'd say, if the vet you work for can't
answer that, I'd find a new vet for your cat, scary. 





 





All that aside:





http://www.judithstock.com/Speaking_of_Animals/Fever_in_Cats/fever_in_cats.html 





http://www.the-cats-meow.ca/health8.html





 





106.5 seems to be the point of critical
injury and seizures according to online sources, but I called two different vet
offices in my local area that I have used in the past, one said anything above
105 is dangerous, and the other said anything in the range of 105.5 to
106 is dangerous. They did, however mention that it would be lower in a
kitten, where anything over 104.5 could cause damage to their delicate systems.





 





Have you tried wiping her paws with some
rubbing alcohol and keeping her on an ice pack (make sure you flip her every 5
minutes and rotate her on 20 minutes and off 15 minutes)? I'm
assuming she is limp and unwiulling to move on her own, correct? Cool IV fluids
would also help. Your vet could also do cool water enemas in the office if
the temp spikes again. STOP all cooling measures when the temperature gets down
to below 103, because the cooling system of the cat is not functioning
properly, it is possible to send the cat into hypothermia if you keep treating
the fever once it gets down into the safe zone (anything below 103).





 





A possibility, if the drugs your vet has
been using have not helped, is Metacam. It's newly approved for cats, and can
help with fever, but is not approved for long term use. You would need to be
sure her body has cleared all the previous drugs first (at least 24 hours), and
the dosage is VERY small. As your vet about it. It's called Metacam, the drug
name is meloxicam. It's been approved for dogs for some time, just recently
approved for felines for short term use. I wouldn't do anything much unless her
fever goes back up above 104. 





 





103.2 is not really that bad at all.






Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html






 





~~~
Also, at what temperature does there body "shut down" ? I can't find
any reference to when a high temp would be critical anywhere.