[gatortalk] Re: Birthday Girl!!!

[Ken Kirkley]

Happy Birthday Helen!
 
(another example of the usefulness of Facebook?)
 
Ken
 

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Subject: [gatortalk] Birthday Girl!!!



Today is Helen Huntley's Birthday!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!





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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel] SEC football teams seem to have an appetite for cream-

[Ken Kirkley]

Research, what a wonderful thing!
 
Over the last 3 years, Florida has an average SOS of 5 vs. USC's 15.6.  Over
the last 10 years, UF's SOS is 19 vs. USC's 15.2
 
The point shouldn't be we have a weaker schedule, the point is these are two
powerhouse teams that year in and year out play very tough schedules and
still win.
 
Florida can do it by playing in the SEC and USC does it by scheduling teams
from other conferences.
 
These SOS stats are all from Sagarin and he seems to always have a bit of a
Pac10 and Big Televen bias, but I still think he is probably the most
unbiased ranking.
 
Our risk with scheduling cupcakes out of conference is that when the SEC is
down, our SOS goes way down.  If Bama loses to VaTech and DogpoopU loses to
OK State, to start the season, watch these discussions come up again.
 
 
Ken 
MNGator

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RIGHT ON THE MONEY!

Please post your comments on the paper's website :-)


On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Oliver Barry  wrote:


This debate rages about the same time every year.  It is fueled by
sportswriters' desire to remain relevant in the 2-3 weeks before the season
starts.  Since this the second inflammatory article out of the Sentinel this
summer (remember they were the ones who reported the ever relevant arrest
record of Meyer's players) they must be in real trouble down there.  I just
hope they can sell a few papers off this so that when the season starts
they'll still be around.

 

But, new season, same gripe.  If anyone would like to give Jeremy Foley a
way to make up the $2million+ loss the program would suffer in scheduling a
home and away game with USC then have at it.  I'm sure he'd listen.

 

In the mean time, as Ken says, I'd like to see USC fight it out in the SEC
from year to year.  Pete Carrol can't even beat Oregon State consistently.
Because that PAC 10 is so tough?  Hardly.  Even with the cream puffs we play
in a tougher conference than anyone else in the country.  And, we have f$U
every year.  Could that be why we held the most potent offense in the
country to 14 points in the NC game last year?

Hmm.

 

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Fax: 615-822-2027

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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:09 AM
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to have an appetite for cream-

 

I agree with everything everyone has said so far... but I still think we can
do better than.. Charleston Southern... Troy... eh ok fine... but
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[gatortalk] Re: Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-)

[Ken Kirkley]

This suprises me somewhat.  No objective observer is even talking about USC
in the top spot.  They are starting a new QB, clearly a year ahead of what
Carroll wanted.  They lost 8 of their defensive starters to the NFL, and
they're supposed to be better this year?
 
While USC has good depth, they do have a few tough games this year.  There
is simply no explanation to put them at #1.  I predict USC will lose at OSU,
Cal and Oregon and will have a tough game against UCLA.
 
Ken 
MNGator
 

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Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:18 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-)


http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt09.htm
 
He always starts the year with a huge bias towards Big 10 and Pac 10.  But
give him credit - this bias usually disappears by the end of the year.  
 
  1  Southern California  A  =  95.750   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   95.75195.751
   2  Florida  A  =  93.950   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   93.95293.952
   3  Oklahoma A  =  92.190   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   92.19392.193
   4  TexasA  =  90.950   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   90.95490.954
   5  Ohio State   A  =  89.290   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   89.29589.295
   6  LSU  A  =  88.550   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   88.55688.556
   7  Georgia  A  =  86.590   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   86.59786.597
   8  Penn State   A  =  86.580   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   86.58886.588
   9  Virginia TechA  =  85.980   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   85.98985.989
  10  Oregon   A  =  85.070   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   85.07   1085.07   10
 
USC (PAC 10) is #1 and Oregon #10
OSU and PSU (Big 10)
Three SEC teams
Two Big 12
Only one ACC team 
 
His conference rankings are
 
1  SOUTHEASTERN(A) =  79.76  80.15  (  1) 12
   2  PAC-10  (A) =  78.30  78.50  (  2) 10
   3  BIG 12  (A) =  78.25  78.30  (  3) 12
   4  ATLANTIC COAST  (A) =  77.64  77.42  (  4) 12
   5  BIG EAST(A) =  76.34  75.89  (  6)  8
   6  BIG TEN (A) =  75.93  76.23  (  5) 11
   7  MOUNTAIN WEST   (A) =  71.28  71.79  (  7)  9
   8  I-A INDEPENDENTS(A) =  69.48  68.35  (  8)  3
   9  CONFERENCE USA  (A) =  64.56  64.63  (  9) 12
  10  WESTERN ATHLETIC(A) =  63.59  64.02  ( 10)  9

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc09.htm
 
his top 10 conferences for last season are
 
 1  SOUTHEASTERN(A) =  78.31  79.08  (  1) 12
   2  BIG 12  (A) =  77.86  77.80  (  2) 12
   3  ATLANTIC COAST  (A) =  77.70  77.67  (  3) 12
   4  PAC-10  (A) =  76.14  75.39  (  4) 10
   5  BIG EAST(A) =  75.23  74.11  (  5)  8
   6  BIG TEN (A) =  73.21  73.49  (  6) 11
   7  MOUNTAIN WEST   (A) =  70.90  71.72  (  7)  9
   8  CONFERENCE USA  (A) =  65.88  65.75  (  8) 12
   9  I-A INDEPENDENTS(A) =  64.26  63.74  ( 10)  4
  10  WESTERN ATHLETIC(A) =  63.91  64.18  (  9)  9

 




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[gatortalk] Re: Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-)

[Ken Kirkley]

That's what everyone thought last year until they played Iowa.  The Pac 10
will be more competitive this year due to the fact that USC is rebuilding,
but also because Cal, UCLA and Oregon will all be better.  The Big Televen
will still be weak, but there are some tough outs in that league too.
Illinois can beat anyone, Michigan is a year away but has the ability to
rise up and bite you, Wisconsin always plays tough, and this year Minnesota
will be playing in a new on-campus outdoor stadium, so that might make for
some interesting late season games.
 
I don't think anyone has an easy path to an undefeated season, if they make
it, more power to them.
 
Ken 
MNGator

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Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:18 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-)


The PAC10 and Big 10 have the easiest paths to the BCS.  The only good team
teat Penn State plays is OSU.  They win that game - and they are undefeated
- versus a (most likely) 1 loss SEC team
 

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Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out
:-)
From: "Ken Kirkley" 
Date: Mon, August 24, 2009 10:23 am
To: 


This suprises me somewhat.  No objective observer is even talking about USC
in the top spot.  They are starting a new QB, clearly a year ahead of what
Carroll wanted.  They lost 8 of their defensive starters to the NFL, and
they're supposed to be better this year?
 
While USC has good depth, they do have a few tough games this year.  There
is simply no explanation to put them at #1.  I predict USC will lose at OSU,
Cal and Oregon and will have a tough game against UCLA.
 
Ken 
MNGator
 

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Subject: [gatortalk] Sagarin's preseason footbal rankings are out :-)



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt09.htm
 
He always starts the year with a huge bias towards Big 10 and Pac 10.  But
give him credit - this bias usually disappears by the end of the year.  
 
  1  Southern California  A  =  95.750   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   95.75195.751
   2  Florida  A  =  93.950   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   93.95293.952
   3  Oklahoma A  =  92.190   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   92.19392.193
   4  TexasA  =  90.950   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   90.95490.954
   5  Ohio State   A  =  89.290   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   89.29589.295
   6  LSU  A  =  88.550   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   88.55688.556
   7  Georgia  A  =  86.590   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   86.59786.597
   8  Penn State   A  =  86.580   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   86.58886.588
   9  Virginia TechA  =  85.980   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   85.98985.989
  10  Oregon   A  =  85.070   00.00(   0)0   0  |
0   0  |   85.07   1085.07   10
 
USC (PAC 10) is #1 and Oregon #10
OSU and PSU (Big 10)
Three SEC teams
Two Big 12
Only one ACC team 
 
His conference rankings are
 
1  SOUTHEASTERN(A) =  79.76  80.15  (  1) 12
   2  PAC-10  (A) =  78.30  78.50  (  2) 10
   3  BIG 12  (A) =  78.25  78.30  (  3) 12
   4  ATLANTIC COAST  (A) =  77.64  77.42  (  4) 12
   5  BIG EAST(A) =  76.34  75.89  (  6)  8
   6  BIG TEN (A) =  75.93  76.23  (  5) 11
   7  MOUNTAIN WEST   (A) =  71.28  71.79  (  7)  9
   8  I-A INDEPENDENTS(A) =  69.48  68.35  (  8)  3
   9  CONFERENCE USA  (A) =  64.56  64.63  (  9) 12
  10  WESTERN ATHLETIC(A) =  63.59  64.02  ( 10)  9

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc09.htm
 
his top 10 conferences for last season are
 
 1  SOUTHEASTERN(A) =  78.31  79.08  (  1) 12
   2  BIG 12  (A) =  77.86  77.80  (  2) 12
   3  ATLANTIC COAST  (A) =  77.70  77.67  (  3) 12
   4  PAC-10  (A) =  76.14  75.39  (  4) 10
   5  BIG EAST(A) =  75.23  74.11  (  5)  8
   6  BIG TEN (A) =  73.21  73.49  (  6) 11
   7  MOUNTAIN WEST   (A) =  70.90  71.72  (  7)  9
   8  CONFERENCE USA  (A) =  65.88  65.75  (  8) 12
   9  I-A INDEPENDENTS(A) =  64.26  63.74  ( 10)  4
  10  WESTERN ATHLETIC(A) =  63.91  64.18  (  9)  9

 







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[gatortalk] Re: is our offense too complex?

[Ken Kirkley]

I think at UF it is not just knowing your route and the formation, it is
knowing all the other WR's role too.  That in addition to being an
unbelievable downfield blocker is a requirement to be "game ready'" for an
Urban Meyer team.  So we will see Hammonds play, but he might miss a block
that otherwise would have sprung the ball carrier for a big gain.  That is
what scares me about the line this week.  1st team can put up 42 in the 1st
half, 2nd team can put up 21 in the 3rd quarter, but can we score anymore as
we get further down the depth chart?
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:44 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: is our offense too complex?


If you have  Julio Jones, who is not only a freak of nature, but heads and
shoulders above any of his teammates as a playmaker you tell him to run a
crossing route, or fly pattern, or down and out, and you look for him.
Everyone knows that the ball will be going to him, but knowing it and
stopping it are often two different things. How many TDs did he score
against the Gators in the SECCG?

Heck, in Percy's freshman season he was brought along much the same way, but
as his knowledge of the offense evolved, so did his role in it.

If you want a fully functional offense where the DBs have no idea if the guy
they're lining up across is a primary target, secondary target, decoy, or
blocker, then it helps for the offensive player to know the playbook.

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com  wrote:





Articles are regularly stating that RBs and WRs don't know the plays.  
 
Is our playbook too complex?  
 
I guess some would look at that as a positive - we have a huge arsenal of
plays that we can run.  
 
But how do other teams get young guys - like Julio Jones of Alabama -
productive in their first year?
 
Seems like it takes us a couple of years before our guys know the playbook.

 
Keith
(got 1 and 1/2 bags of meteorite dust so far)







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[gatortalk] Re: athletes and coaches

[Ken Kirkley]

I think you are underestimating the defenses in the USC/NCS game.
 
As far as Miamuh and SOW, they have some premier playmakers, but not as many
as they used to, especially on the defensive side of the ball.  I wish we
could play either of those teams now, because they are truly terrible on
defense.
 
Time will tell, we will see how SOW does at BYU and the ewe's next 3
opponents aren't pushovers.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:48 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] athletes and coaches


I watched several games this past weekend
 
NC State - South Carolina - appeared to me to be not very good athletes, not
very well coached
 
Miami - FSU - appeared to be very good athletes - just not well coached
 
Are my perceptions biased and pre conceived or did anyone notice the same
sorts of things




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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel] Florida Gators set to silence Tennessee and coach Lane Kiffin

[Ken Kirkley]

Oh, he will have to pay for it, I think the bill is coming due in 6 days
 
In fact, he was downright tickled when he heard the Gators had put his words
up in their football complex. He actually said, "Beautiful. Awesome.
Wonderful. They even put our logo on it. Free advertising and we didn't have
to pay for it."

 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel] Florida Gators set to silence Tennessee
and coach Lane Kiffin



Florida Gators set to silence Tennessee and coach Lane Kiffin 

By Andrea Adelson / The Orlando Sentinel  |   Sunday, September 13, 2009  |
 
 Photo
 

Photo by AP


GAINESVILLE, Fla. - We didn't need to hear anyone call Lane Kiffin a bozo or
a clown or out of his league Saturday afternoon.

All we need to remember about the enormity of the UF-Tennessee game next
weekend is a little quote the Tennessee coach said after he was hired. You
remember the one:

"I'm really looking forward to embracing some of the great traditions at the
University of Tennessee, for instance the Vol Walk, running through the T,
singing Rocky Top all night long after we beat Florida next year. It will be
a blast."

The Gators blew it up and posted it in their football complex in the spring,
though it is no longer up now. So there is no need to buy all the
politically correct statements coming out of The Swamp after the Gators'
56-6 win over Troy.

UF-Tennessee is always a big game. But this is sure to be one of the most
anticipated games at The Swamp in recent memory. Surely, it's the most
anticipated in the rivalry since 2001, when No. 5 Tennessee beat No. 2 UF in
a game postponed until December because of 9-11, denying the Gators a shot
at the national title.

Now, the Gators would love nothing more than to shut Kiffin up. The Gators
have won four straight in this rivalry. And let's be honest, the game was
starting to become a dud, what with Tennessee falling from the top tier of
the SEC East as the Gators made their ascent back.

Along comes Kiffin to inject the right spark at the right time. Not only did
he make those inflammatory remarks, he then accused Meyer of cheating during
the recruitment of Nu'Keese Richardson, who switched his commitment from UF
to Tennessee at the last possible moment.

A brouhaha erupted. Kiffin had to apologize for the false accusations, but
he repeatedly has said he is not sorry for poking the bear.

In fact, he was downright tickled when he heard the Gators had put his words
up in their football complex. He actually said, "Beautiful. Awesome.
Wonderful. They even put our logo on it. Free advertising and we didn't have
to pay for it."

Gator fans have wanted a merciless beat down ever since Kiffin started
fanning the flames. A company started printing T-shirts in April that read,
"Memo to Lane Kiffin. Be scared. Very scared. The beat down is near!"

Message boards have been filled with fans urging Meyer to run up the score,
to make Kiffin pay in the only real way he can. They want a record-setting
trouncing. Tennessee struggled and lost against UCLA on Saturday, so it
could happen. The largest margin of victory the Gators have posted over
Tennessee is 39, in 2007. They scored 62 in a win in 1995.

Fans want blood. Guarantee the Gators do, too, even if nobody will say it.
Jeff Demps and David Nelson both gave tepid no-comments when asked whether
there would be extra motivation for the game this week.

Meyer addressed the start of "Rivalry Week" in the locker room after the
game, where players emphatically said the season begins now. Meyer said
practice Tuesday would be "the hardest practice we'll ever have."

In the spring, Meyer did acknowledge that Kiffin's comments were enough to
fire him up. But now that game-time is near, he refused to pull a Kiffin and
start talking trash.

"I want to make sure this game is about the Tennessee football players
versus the Florida football players," Meyer said. "The thing that will never
happen around here is it's about coach or coaches. I told them this is
preparation for playing a game. Period."

Linebacker Ryan Stamper admitted he was already thinking about Tennessee,
but said nothing more of the game.

Tim Tebow was asked how long it took for Meyer to address Tennessee in the
locker room. "It took a little bit," he said with a sly grin, ducking out
before he could be questioned any further.

Nothing more needed to be said, really. Come next Saturday, the final score
will be enough.

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[gatortalk] Re: tenn - florida

[Ken Kirkley]

Keith,
 
This message is possibly inappropriate.
 
There is no mention of how far back your archives go, no mention of vomit,
no archane song lyrics or references to former list members.  We waited all
summer to be able to enjoy this list and you come along and start talking
about football?  What has gotten into you?
 
Seriously, thank you for talking about the game we have all been eagerly
anticipating.
 
I think this will be a closer game than most, but we will still win
comfortably.  Last year we had a punt return for a TD and 2 fumble
recoveries in the first half that helped stake us to a 20-0 lead.  UT didn't
really mount a drive until late in the 3rd quarter when we were up
comfortably 27-0.
 
If we can get the turnovers we can win by the big scores everyone is
predicting.  If not, the game could be close in the 2nd half.  Last year
Tebow had one of his worst games 8-15 for 96 yards and the team only rushed
for 147 yards, so the UT defense held us in check fairly well.
 
The differences this year are:
- Lame pissed us off, so it is not just beat a rival, but anihilate them.
- Gators didn't really start clicking on offense until the second half of
the Arky game, so UT hasn't really seen the new Gators
- The UT O-line is decimated and not very good.  The tackles are big and can
open holes for the run game, but I expect Dunlap and Cunningham to run
around them on passing downs.
- The UT center is a replacement for their injured starter and is undersized
at 280lbs lining up against 6-4 304lb Lawrence Marsh.
 
I expect UT to try and run the ball all day to shorten up the game.  What I
would like to see us do is go to the banzai from play one and not let up.
Keep a healthy rotation of linemen and UT will be in total meltdown in the
3rd quarter.
 
There is no reason we should lose this game, except for over confidence.  UT
has nothing to lose, everyone expects a beatdown, so they can come in and
play loose and carefree.  UF is supposed to be providing payback for Lame's
mouth, so anything less than 35 point margin will not be satisfying.  I will
be happy with a win.  
 
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 PM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] tenn - florida


Last year we beat Tenn at Tenn 30 to 6
Year before we beat Tenn 59 - 20 at home
Last year we beat Georgia 49-10
 
Last year Tenn had an awesome defense (one of the best in the country) and
we scored 30 points on them.  I expect the Tenn defense to be as good as
last year.  
 
I expect the Tenn defense to wear down because their offense is so impotent.

 
Now we get them at home.  
 
Whereas we have a strong offense and rotate defensive players throughout the
game - our defense is usually as good at the end of the game - as they are
at the start.  
 
Last year Georgia was our amped up game.  This year it is Tenn.  
 
Last year's Georgia offense was far superior to this year's Tenn offense.
Georgia's defense last year not as good as Tenn's - but not far behind.  
 
Brandon James is pumped to return another kick (without a penalty).  
 
Look for our defense to hold Tenn to 2 field goals (6 points) while our
offense is tested but still scores 42. 
 
 




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[gatortalk] Re: Dawg pile

[Ken Kirkley]

38-47-2 all time.  Only 9 years to go before we even this one up! 

For the time being, I will let them bark about having the all-time record,
just knowing that they have to go back to a time when Army was a perenial
natioanl title contender to reclaim their greatness (not that they ever had
any to claim).

Ken K
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:21 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Dawg pile


but they lead the overall if you go preWWII.. by quite a large margin I
believe.  Correct?

Woody



On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ken Kirkley  wrote:
> I just responed to a post on GatorCountry with this information, but 
> thought a certain individual in Tennessee might like this..
>
> This was in response to a Dawg fan that said the UF - GA series runs 
> in 19 year cycles, and the last one ended in 2008, so GA is now ready 
> for a 19 year run of dominance.  Silly pups!
>
>
>
> The problem with your dawg acquaintance is he has arbitrarily chosen 
> 19 year ranges, if you chose 15 year ranges UF's winning percentage looks
like this:
>
> 1934-1948 ---  2  -12
> 1949-1963 --- 11  - 4
> 1964-1978 ---   5 - 9 - 1
> 1979-1993 ---   6 - 9
> 1994-2008 --- 12 - 3
>
> So over 15 year stretches, the dominance doesn't look so great.  Also, 
> over the last 75 years, Georgia is only 1 game above .500 over the 
> Gators.  This year, we even the score...
>
> P.S. Since WWII Florida is 34-30 against the evil ones.
>
> Ken K
> MNGator
>
> >
>




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[gatortalk] Dawg pile

[Ken Kirkley]

I just responed to a post on GatorCountry with this information, but thought
a certain individual in Tennessee might like this..
 
This was in response to a Dawg fan that said the UF - GA series runs in 19
year cycles, and the last one ended in 2008, so GA is now ready for a 19
year run of dominance.  Silly pups!
 
 
 
The problem with your dawg acquaintance is he has arbitrarily chosen 19 year
ranges, if you chose 15 year ranges UF's winning percentage looks like this:

1934-1948 ---  2  -12
1949-1963 --- 11  - 4
1964-1978 ---   5 - 9 - 1
1979-1993 ---   6 - 9
1994-2008 --- 12 - 3

So over 15 year stretches, the dominance doesn't look so great.  Also, over
the last 75 years, Georgia is only 1 game above .500 over the Gators.  This
year, we even the score...

P.S. Since WWII Florida is 34-30 against the evil ones.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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[gatortalk] Re: Great to be a Gator

[Ken Kirkley]

Here are our records against the SEC:
UT 26-28
Vandy 31-9
S.Car 22-4
UGA 38-47
Kent 42-17
 
LSU 29-13
Bama 14-21
Ole Mis 10-12
Miss St 21-18
Auburn 38-43
Arky 7-1
 
And..
 
F$U 32-20
Da Ewe 26-28
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of jfranl
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:33 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Great to be a Gator



My ultimate goal as a Gator fan is to be ahead of all the schools we play,
in wins over the years, and then dominate them.  Is that too much to ask?
My brother says that all he ever wanted was respect from the other teams and
the sportswriters in the nation; well, he's got that.  Now the other teams
hate and fear us, which is even better.  It is a great time to be a Gator,
especially since I remember losing to Rice, Houston, Richmond (maybe a tie)
and those lesser teams in the 1950s up until the 1990s, and having the Dawgs
beat us like a drum.  Life is GOOD! 

BTW, how close are we to evening up the score with LSU, Alabama and the
others?

Fran

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:12 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Dawg pile

 

I just responed to a post on GatorCountry with this information, but thought
a certain individual in Tennessee might like this..

 

This was in response to a Dawg fan that said the UF - GA series runs in 19
year cycles, and the last one ended in 2008, so GA is now ready for a 19
year run of dominance.  Silly pups!

 

 

 

The problem with your dawg acquaintance is he has arbitrarily chosen 19 year
ranges, if you chose 15 year ranges UF's winning percentage looks like this:

1934-1948 ---  2  -12
1949-1963 --- 11  - 4
1964-1978 ---   5 - 9 - 1
1979-1993 ---   6 - 9
1994-2008 --- 12 - 3

So over 15 year stretches, the dominance doesn't look so great.  Also, over
the last 75 years, Georgia is only 1 game above .500 over the Gators.  This
year, we even the score...

P.S. Since WWII Florida is 34-30 against the evil ones.

 

Ken K

MNGator

 









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[gatortalk] Re: Dawg pile

[Ken Kirkley]

Those records do not include a 1943 game.  They do include the 1942 75-0
game though. 


Ken Kirkley
k...@kirkley.net
651-249-5197

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:17 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Dawg pile


That's, ahem... 46 wins for the dogs.

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:37 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Dawg pile


38-47-2 all time.  Only 9 years to go before we even this one up! 

For the time being, I will let them bark about having the all-time record,
just knowing that they have to go back to a time when Army was a perenial
natioanl title contender to reclaim their greatness (not that they ever had
any to claim).

Ken K
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:21 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Dawg pile


but they lead the overall if you go preWWII.. by quite a large margin I
believe.  Correct?

Woody



On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ken Kirkley  wrote:
> I just responed to a post on GatorCountry with this information, but 
> thought a certain individual in Tennessee might like this..
>
> This was in response to a Dawg fan that said the UF - GA series runs 
> in 19 year cycles, and the last one ended in 2008, so GA is now ready 
> for a 19 year run of dominance.  Silly pups!
>
>
>
> The problem with your dawg acquaintance is he has arbitrarily chosen
> 19 year ranges, if you chose 15 year ranges UF's winning percentage 
> looks
like this:
>
> 1934-1948 ---  2  -12
> 1949-1963 --- 11  - 4
> 1964-1978 ---   5 - 9 - 1
> 1979-1993 ---   6 - 9
> 1994-2008 --- 12 - 3
>
> So over 15 year stretches, the dominance doesn't look so great.  Also, 
> over the last 75 years, Georgia is only 1 game above .500 over the 
> Gators.  This year, we even the score...
>
> P.S. Since WWII Florida is 34-30 against the evil ones.
>
> Ken K
> MNGator
>
> >
>










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[gatortalk] Classless UT coaching staff

[Ken Kirkley]

Apparently David Reaves wasn't feeling the love in the Swamp..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZatPmBKBKcc
 
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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[gatortalk] Re: Soooo glad to see him sitting up

[Ken Kirkley]

 
Wow, you must have seen a different injury.  If they were at all concerned
with whiplash or any neck injury you would have seen him braced up before
being moved anywhere.  It is most likely a concussion, complicated by
feeling ill.  

If it is a grade 3 concussion, he should be back to full go in 7 days.  The
bye week couldn't have come at a better time.

Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatorr
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 8:47 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: S glad to see him sitting up


Till after the lsu game  He may be out till after the msu game. It depends
on the extent of the concussion.

I used to work for radiologists... Ive seen xrays of concussions and neck
injuries from mild to so serious they ended up in the Shepherd Spinal
Center.

Tebow may just have some sort of whiplash... If it were real serious they
woulda airlifted him out and he certainly wouldnt be able to move on his
own.

Woody

On Sep 26, 2009, at 9:23 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote:

> Through or to?
>
> Go Gators
>
> Ken B. (NYC Gator)
>
> Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gatorr 
>
> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:15:38
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: S glad to see him sitting up
>
>
>
> He will prolly be out atleast thru the lsu game.
>
> Woody
>
> On Sep 26, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Cathryn Lasky 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Just saw them carting Tebow off the field and he was vomiting. I bet 
>> he's going to UK medical center for a CAT scan.  I hope he's alright.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Mary Weigly wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> There is no such thing as a game being "well in hand", since we've 
>>> seen a 28-point lead evaporate in the 4th quarter.  Hindsight may 
>>> suggest differently, but I have no gripe with Tebow being in the 
>>> game in the 3rd quarter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2009, at 7:51 PM, ken...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>>
 I don't think it's wind at all.  I think it's his head or neck.   
 The
 back of his head got nailed by Gilbert's knee.

 Of course, everyone will ask why was he still in the game, since 
 the game is well in hand.

 It is a good question to ask.


 Go Gators

 Ken B. (NYC Gator)

 Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed

 -Original Message-
 From: Gatorr 

 Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:39:15
 To: 
 Subject: [gatortalk] S glad to see him sitting up



 I think he mostly got the wind knocked outta him

 Woody



>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>
> >




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[gatortalk] Re: TT

[Ken Kirkley]

No blame on the coaches for this.  It was a freak injury that could have
happened at any time.  You have our first road game after a lackluster game,
the team needed to continue to improve.  Maybe the coaches didn't like some
of the reads Tim was making or maybe Tim and his competitive desire demanded
to be in the game.  I put no blame on the coaches for this.
 
I do have a cople of questions though.  After Tim was down, on TV they
showed the KY player dancing around like he had just been named homecoming
queen - why no penalty?  Also, the Miami Herald article stated that the
whole stadium was chanting "Lets go Tebow" as he was down.  On TV, and I
watched it again this morning, it sure didn't sound like that - instead
sounded like they were cheering the fact he was down. Did anybody else catch
that?
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 4:59 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: TT


It could have happened in the first quarter, but it didn't. It happened with
under four minutes in the third quarter, and a 31 - 7 lead.

I saw no need for him to still be in the game at that point, particularly
since he had been sick before the game. Same for Spikes, with his achilles
problem.

Certainly, there is a risk of injury on every snap, so once the game is in
hand, you weigh the benefit of having him in versus the potential cost. With
him in and 18:57 left in the game, we could have beaten Kentucky by 38 or
more. Without him, we beat them by less. 

Is it worth it? I don't think so. Particularly, as Darlene pointed out, that
was a perfect opportunity to get Brantley some quality snaps in an SEC road
game.

Meyer supposedly studies statistics and is very analytical. So the question
remains: is it worth the potential risk? I didn't think so before the
injury, and still don't.

Go Gators

Get Well Tim

Ken B. (NYC Gator)


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From: "dbadr...@gmail.com" 
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:40:07 -0400
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: TT


Yep...very well said!

Now...to all the second-guessers who think he shouldn't have played in the
second half..in Coach Meyer's, it's "silly, nonsense". This injury could
have happened in the first quarter itself. 

Lets keep praying for Tim!

-BadMan


On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Cecilia  wrote:



Well said.  I have to say, as a mom, it brought tears to my eyes to see his
parents standing there.  I can imagine what was going through his mama's
head.

Cee


- Original Message -
From: "03GatorMom" 
To: "GatorTalk" 
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] TT


>
> It hurt so much to see Tim laying on the ground like that in
> yesterday's game.  To see him put himself physically into a game week
> after week the way he does is amazing, and inspiring.  As a
> quarterback he could so easily hand off or throw the ball and just
> slip into the background while the play continues.  I have yet to see
> him do this.  He continues to run, tackle, hit - whatever he can do to
> make a play happen even after it is "out of his hands"!  What happened
> in the Kentucky game was bound to happen sooner or later, but this
> young man Tebow, this player who brings out the best in everyone
> around him including his opponents; this was more than devastating.  I
> have been praying for him on and off all night, I know God has much
> more planned for his life, on and off the field.  Superman may have
> been down, but he is not out!  We love you Tim, God bless you as you
> continue to seek His direction for your life!
>
> >













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[gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?

[Ken Kirkley]

The key is there are 25 diagnostic symptoms they are looking for, not just
how are you feeling.  The medical professionals have been around Tim enough
to know if he is his normal self, regardless (or is that irregardless?) of
his answers.  That combined with observational data on other symptoms will
lead a go, no-go decision.
 
I think some of what Dr. Cantu said about distinguishing the symptoms of a
concussion from the flu (or upper respitory ailment) are the key.  Tim was
hit square in the chest, which could have knocked the breath out of him,
couple that with getting hit on the back of the head and a mild concussion
might appear to be more severe.  Only time will tell, but I would bet on Tim
playing at LSU.
 
Two things that bother me about this whole situation, one being Ben Volin of
the Miami Herald who is reporting all kinds of supposition as fact. He has
stated several times that Tebow was out for over 2 minutes, this has not
been confirmed by anyone.  He also has reported that Tebow answered every
question on the sideline "I don't remember", I have watch the TV broadcast
several times and while I am not an expert lip reader, I don't see him
saying that at all.
 
The other thing is this whole debate over whether he should have been in the
game. If he doesn't get injured are we talking about this at all?  And who
has the margin of lead vs. time left in game chart to show where it is safe
to take out your star player?  Why is no one harping on Mack Brown at Texas
for leaving Colt McCoy in the 3rd quarter with a 50-7 lead?  Simple, because
he didn't get hurt.
 
The play Tebow got hurt on isn't inherently dangerous to the QB, the QB just
needs to make a quick read.  He either throws the quick slant or rolls right
for a run.  Tim held the ball too long on the slant and that allowed him to
get hit.  It was just a football play with a terrible outcome, but could
have happened in the first quarter of the Troy game or the 3rd quarter of
Kentucky.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:36 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?


Problem is - I am not a medical doctor.  
 
I would be very conservative.  If it means we lose games - but Tebow
recovers more fully - I have no problem with that.  Tebow is too special of
a person to rush back into football and risk problems later on.  
 
What I would do is to get at least two or three expert doctors opinions.
And probably go with the most conservative opinion.  
 
Have his family involved in the decision.
 
I guess my point is - take the decision away from Tim himself.  I am afraid
Tim would rush things.  
 
If you consult 3 doctors that are experts on sports concussions and they all
three agree that Tim can play at LSU - and Tim wants to - then I'd let him
play.  But if one doctor out of the three suggests holding him out - I would
probably hold him out.
 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Would you play Tebow at LSU or make him rest?
From: Steve McKibben 
Date: Tue, September 29, 2009 2:26 pm
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com


So what do you suggest?

Not trying to give you a hard time, but how do you think it should be
handled?

If you don't believe him when he says he's OK and he always says that, do
you just retire his jersey right now?

Do you make him answer all questions with his hand on a bible?

Do you ask the medical staff what their opinion is?

Or is there some other way that hasn't occurred to me yet?

--- On Tue, 9/29/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com  wrote:



We know that tebow keeps telling Meyer he is okay and we find out there were
major injuries later. 

 
How do you know if Tebow is being 100% truthful with doctors and not just
telling them what they want to hear?






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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Tebow rejoins teammates

[Ken Kirkley]

He has one, one hour class entitled Senior Seminar.  As far as I can tell it
is a pretty easy credit...
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jerry Belloit
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:54 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Tebow rejoins teammates



I hope that someone is recording his class (s) so that he can keep up.  As I
remember, he had a very light load but I would not want him to lose
eligibility because he did not successfully complete his academic work.
(for bowl game.)

 

Jerry

 

From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:19 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Tebow rejoins teammates

 

Meyer said Tebow also is not allowed to watch television or read at this
time.

"A lot of times they make you stay in a dark room and rest as much as you
can," Meyer said. "It's day to day. It could change tomorrow, it could
change Thursday.





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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: LSU offers unique way to watch Florida game (A.P. / Associated Press)

[Ken Kirkley]

There has to be a Bull Gator somewhere willing to pony up the bucks for
this.  
 
I can see it now, you win the package, buy some garish looking tigger
garment to wear.  Go through the whole deal, pregame warmups, talk to the
coach with the giant hat, then get ready to run out the tunnel with the
team.  As you begin the run, on primetime national TV, you rip off the
offending purple and yellow clothing in hulk like fashion to proudly display
bright orange Gator gear!
 
That would be classic, has to be worth $15k or $20k, right?  I don't have
that kind of cash handy right now, but will gladly make the run...
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

  _  

From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:36 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: LSU offers unique way to watch Florida game
(A.P. / Associated Press)



LSU offers unique way to watch Florida game



The Associated Press

Published: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. 
Last Modified: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. 

 

BATON ROUGE, La. - There's no chance of getting a ticket to the Florida-LSU
game on Saturday, unless you want to pay a scalper.

Reportedly, tickets being sold now for the matchup of No. 1 Florida and No.
4 LSU are going for as much as $2,200. Tickets for SEC games normally sell
for $50, a woman who answered the phone in LSU's ticket office said Tuesday.

"It's arguably the biggest home game for LSU in half a century," said LSU
sports information director Michael Bonnette. "And there are no tickets
around. I turned my phone off so I wouldn't have to keep telling people I
didn't have any."

But LSU has a deal for anyone willing to cough up big bucks for the game.

The school is auctioning off a chance for the winning bidder and a guest to
not only see the game, but take part in some of the team traditions like the
walk down Victory Hill and running out of the chute onto the field.

They will also get to watch the pre-game warmups with head football coach
Les Miles on the sidelines and watch the game from the press box with LSU
athletic director Joe Alleva.

"We thought it would be something people would be interested in," Bonnette
said.

The opening bid came in less than an hour after the auction was posted,
Bonnette said. It was for $12,000.

LSU beat Florida in Tiger Stadium 28-24 in 2007. In 1997 when the Tigers
were ranked No. 14 and Florida was No. 1, LSU won at home 28-21.

The auction runs until 3 p.m. CDT on Thursday.

 





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[gatortalk] Monday morning procrastination

[Ken Kirkley]

- Great weekend of football, don't know yet, but I think I went 1-11 in
pick'em.  Getting closer to Oliver's point of view that it is a stupid
game...
 
- Great win by the Gators, all the focus was on Tebow, but really this was a
defensive win.  
 
- Me thinks that the coaching staff was a little too conservative.  I wonder
if we were 4th or 5th in the polls, would we be exerting our dominance on
teams this way?
 
- While I've been called a mother before, I definitely had a different point
of view on Tebow getting hit.  When the first hit came, I thought great, now
he has that out the way and can start playing like Timmy!
 
- I like Danielson, think he does a great job.  Yes he has his talking
points, but he is still better than the rest.  Who else would you want doing
our game? (and Mic Hubert isn't allowed)
 
- Greg Doyle is a tool.
 
- Why can't we see Moody get more touches?  I thought this was the perfect
game for that to happen, but on 3rd and short he is on the side...
 
- Anyone think Less Miles is claiming a moral victory for staying within 10
of the Gators?  That is what separates the true contenders from the
pretenders.
 
- While I appreciate our ability to run the ball at will, we need to make
the downfield passing game work.  We had receivers open, but kept throwing
the short passes for the most part.
 
- Love the 'slingshot' move our receivers use to get open, but they will get
called on that soon.
 
- Les Miles won over the refs with his rants.  The Center is allowed to move
his head as long as he isn't simulating the snap.  The refs allowed Pouncey
to snap his head to the left for the entire first half and then called the
penalty on the second play of the second half (while letting another
defensive encroachment penalty slide on the 1st down).  The refs were cowed
by Less.  And regardless what the announcers said, this didn't slow our
O-line down because Pouncey simply changed his head movement to up and down
instead of sideways.
 
- Don't like the stomping of the logo at all.  We have derided SOW and Scum
for years for these antics, let us not do that.  I get that we gather at
midfield and the jumping is not so much a taunt but youthful exuberance, but
we should gather in front of our fans or at the 30.  It just looks bad to do
it at fifty.
 
- Red zone play calling is atrocious.  I know we shouldn't criticize after a
win, yes we have a top 10 offense, blah, blah, blah.  When we get to the red
zone, we shut it down, it is almost like watching an NFL game.  I don't know
offhand what our red zone percentage is this year versus last, but I bet it
is a lot lower in terms of TDs scored.  Yes, we are missing Harvin (or is it
Harvey) and Murphy, but they weren't our primary red zone targets.
 
- Does anyone else feel that Tebow is throwing worse this year than he ever
has?  His delivery hasn't changed and that is fine, it is what it is.  While
every now and then he throws a nice tight spiral, it seems that many of the
balls he throws, especially the deep throws come out wobbling.  Could he
still have shoulder issues?
 
- Feels great to be 5-0.  Ugaly lost and that is always good.  If Kitten had
to win an SEC game, no better way than to blow out Ugaly!  This basically
gives us a two game cushion for the SECE with 5 to go.  Not a bad position
to be in.
 
- Homecoming will be a great game.  We will need some offense in this one as
the Arky offense is for real.  I don't think they will be able to score at
will, but wouldn't be suprised to see them put up 16-20 points.  My early
prediction UF 31 Arky 13.
 
 
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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[gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination

[Ken Kirkley]

That's my way of trying to make a comeback in Pick'em - give lousy advice so
everyone else comes down to my level.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:43 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination



WHAT??? Listening to your prediction would be like taking marital advise
from a guy who's been divorced 6 times.




 

-Great weekend of football, don't know yet, but I think I went 1-11 in
pick'em.  Getting closer to Oliver's point of view that it is a stupid
game.. 

 

- Homecoming will be a great game.  We will need some offense in this one as
the Arky offense is for real.  I don't think they will be able to score at
will, but wouldn't be suprised to see them put up 16-20 points.  My early
prediction UF 31 Arky 13.

 

 

 

Ken K

MNGator

 





 





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[gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination

[Ken Kirkley]

I think the conservative playcalling is not trusting the WRs to make plays.
Or it could be not trusting Tebow to get the ball in the zone.
 
The argument that teams are playing a 2 deep zone on us doesn't hold up,
because most of the time we have seen man coverage with 7 or 8 in the box.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 
 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:38 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination


Good points ...
 
is this conservative play calling because Adazio is our new offensive
coordinator and OL coach?  If Gonzales (WR coach) were our OC - would we see
a lot more passes?  
 
If we were mixing the run and pass more - I would feel more comfortable.  I
would feel that we were more unpredictable.  
 
Our OL is great, and probably better than most other DLs. 
 
My concern  is - (1) injuries for our OL are starting to mount and (2) can
our OL blow holes in a great defense like Alabama?  
 
Demps, Rainey, and James are great one on one with DBs - I am still not
convinced that they can run through takles at the line of scrimmage.  If the
OL blows huge holes and gets them past the LBers - then great.  Otherwise it
is usually lost yardage.  
 
Moody, Chris Scott, Gillislee - I think could break most of the tackles.
But we rarely see Moody and never see the other two except mop up duty.  
 
 
 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Monday morning procrastination
From: "Ken Kirkley" 
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009 11:14 am
To: 


- Great weekend of football, don't know yet, but I think I went 1-11 in
pick'em.  Getting closer to Oliver's point of view that it is a stupid
game...
 
- Great win by the Gators, all the focus was on Tebow, but really this was a
defensive win.  
 
- Me thinks that the coaching staff was a little too conservative.  I wonder
if we were 4th or 5th in the polls, would we be exerting our dominance on
teams this way?
 
- While I've been called a mother before, I definitely had a different point
of view on Tebow getting hit.  When the first hit came, I thought great, now
he has that out the way and can start playing like Timmy!
 
- I like Danielson, think he does a great job.  Yes he has his talking
points, but he is still better than the rest.  Who else would you want doing
our game? (and Mic Hubert isn't allowed)
 
- Greg Doyle is a tool.
 
- Why can't we see Moody get more touches?  I thought this was the perfect
game for that to happen, but on 3rd and short he is on the side...
 
- Anyone think Less Miles is claiming a moral victory for staying within 10
of the Gators?  That is what separates the true contenders from the
pretenders.
 
- While I appreciate our ability to run the ball at will, we need to make
the downfield passing game work.  We had receivers open, but kept throwing
the short passes for the most part.
 
- Love the 'slingshot' move our receivers use to get open, but they will get
called on that soon.
 
- Les Miles won over the refs with his rants.  The Center is allowed to move
his head as long as he isn't simulating the snap.  The refs allowed Pouncey
to snap his head to the left for the entire first half and then called the
penalty on the second play of the second half (while letting another
defensive encroachment penalty slide on the 1st down).  The refs were cowed
by Less.  And regardless what the announcers said, this didn't slow our
O-line down because Pouncey simply changed his head movement to up and down
instead of sideways.
 
- Don't like the stomping of the logo at all.  We have derided SOW and Scum
for years for these antics, let us not do that.  I get that we gather at
midfield and the jumping is not so much a taunt but youthful exuberance, but
we should gather in front of our fans or at the 30.  It just looks bad to do
it at fifty.
 
- Red zone play calling is atrocious.  I know we shouldn't criticize after a
win, yes we have a top 10 offense, blah, blah, blah.  When we get to the red
zone, we shut it down, it is almost like watching an NFL game.  I don't know
offhand what our red zone percentage is this year versus last, but I bet it
is a lot lower in terms of TDs scored.  Yes, we are missing Harvin (or is it
Harvey) and Murphy, but they weren't our primary red zone targets.
 
- Does anyone else feel that Tebow is throwing worse this year than he ever
has?  His delivery hasn't changed and that is fine, it is what it is.  While
every now and then he throws a nice tight spiral, it seems that many of the
balls he throws, especially the deep throws come out wobbling.  Could he
still have shoulder issues?
 
- Feels great to be 5-0.  Ugaly lost and that is always good.  If Kitten had
to win an SEC game, no better way than to blow out Ugaly!  This basically
gives us a two game cushion for the SECE with 5 to

[gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination

[Ken Kirkley]

I'm not buying the RUTS argument.  I think we would gladly take more points.
Originally the story was we run the dive play in the first 15-20 snaps to
see who on defense reacts (who takes the QB, TE, RB, etc)  But as the game
progresses and that is still a staple, I don't know.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:53 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination


Im not sure they are tryin to RUTS at all in the big games..  i think their
entire game plan is to control the clock.  Thats why we kept seeing all
those dive plays... Im not sure if they are holding back in anticipation of
having to Play Bama and not showing them the full slate of plays or what...
 
 
 
And Oliver will love this... one of the big bosses i work with here... just
stopped by THINKING i would just rub it in about the puppies losin to
Tennessee... but I didnt say anything... not ONE word... (i only do that if
i am provoked..) but she mentioned pulling her alumni $$ support if Bobo and
Martinez arent fired.  lol  WHEW... the puppies are FIRED up this week
ladies and gents... 
 
Woody


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:38 AM,  wrote:



Good points ...
 
is this conservative play calling because Adazio is our new offensive
coordinator and OL coach?  If Gonzales (WR coach) were our OC - would we see
a lot more passes?  
 
If we were mixing the run and pass more - I would feel more comfortable.  I
would feel that we were more unpredictable.  
 
Our OL is great, and probably better than most other DLs. 
 
My concern  is - (1) injuries for our OL are starting to mount and (2) can
our OL blow holes in a great defense like Alabama?  
 
Demps, Rainey, and James are great one on one with DBs - I am still not
convinced that they can run through takles at the line of scrimmage.  If the
OL blows huge holes and gets them past the LBers - then great.  Otherwise it
is usually lost yardage.  
 
Moody, Chris Scott, Gillislee - I think could break most of the tackles.
But we rarely see Moody and never see the other two except mop up duty.  
 
 
 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Monday morning procrastination
From: "Ken Kirkley" 
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009 11:14 am
To: 


- Great weekend of football, don't know yet, but I think I went 1-11 in
pick'em.  Getting closer to Oliver's point of view that it is a stupid
game...
 
- Great win by the Gators, all the focus was on Tebow, but really this was a
defensive win.  
 
- Me thinks that the coaching staff was a little too conservative.  I wonder
if we were 4th or 5th in the polls, would we be exerting our dominance on
teams this way?
 
- While I've been called a mother before, I definitely had a different point
of view on Tebow getting hit.  When the first hit came, I thought great, now
he has that out the way and can start playing like Timmy!
 
- I like Danielson, think he does a great job.  Yes he has his talking
points, but he is still better than the rest.  Who else would you want doing
our game? (and Mic Hubert isn't allowed)
 
- Greg Doyle is a tool.
 
- Why can't we see Moody get more touches?  I thought this was the perfect
game for that to happen, but on 3rd and short he is on the side...
 
- Anyone think Less Miles is claiming a moral victory for staying within 10
of the Gators?  That is what separates the true contenders from the
pretenders.
 
- While I appreciate our ability to run the ball at will, we need to make
the downfield passing game work.  We had receivers open, but kept throwing
the short passes for the most part.
 
- Love the 'slingshot' move our receivers use to get open, but they will get
called on that soon.
 
- Les Miles won over the refs with his rants.  The Center is allowed to move
his head as long as he isn't simulating the snap.  The refs allowed Pouncey
to snap his head to the left for the entire first half and then called the
penalty on the second play of the second half (while letting another
defensive encroachment penalty slide on the 1st down).  The refs were cowed
by Less.  And regardless what the announcers said, this didn't slow our
O-line down because Pouncey simply changed his head movement to up and down
instead of sideways.
 
- Don't like the stomping of the logo at all.  We have derided SOW and Scum
for years for these antics, let us not do that.  I get that we gather at
midfield and the jumping is not so much a taunt but youthful exuberance, but
we should gather in front of our fans or at the 30.  It just looks bad to do
it at fifty.
 
- Red zone play calling is atrocious.  I know we shouldn't criticize after a
win, yes we have a top 10 offense, blah, blah, blah.  When we get to the red
zone, we shut it down, it is almost like watching an NFL game.  I don't know
offhand what our red zone percentage i

[gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination

[Ken Kirkley]

Actually, Moody is leading in average yards per carry...
 
Demps 44 attempts, 390 yards 8.9 per carry
Tebow 72 attempts, 309 yards 4.3 per carry
Rainey 35 attempts 272 yards 7.8 per carry
Moody 24 attempts 230 yards 9.6 per carry
 
Also, Moody is the only running back that has yet to be tackled for a loss.
 
Ken K
MNGator

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:02 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination



Lot's of good points.  Yes, Pick'em is a dumb game.  I'm never playing
again!

Demps is getting the ball more because he's averaging 7 yards a carry.
Moody is averaging 3 or 4.  

We're playing a conservative offense because it's working.  We don't have to
rack up lots of points.  Our defense only allowed 3 points Saturday.  There
have only been 2 touchdowns scored on us all season.  And those were both
late in the game when we didn't care if they scored.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

 

 

- Why can't we see Moody get more touches?  I thought this was the perfect
game for that to happen, but on 3rd and short he is on the side...

 

 

Ken K

MNGator

 










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[gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination

[Ken Kirkley]

Where are you getting that stat?  I don't buy it.
 
Yes, Woody Hayes loved the 3 yards and a cloud of dust style of football.
That is not the type of football that will continue to attract recruits to
the spread option though.  And when you run the ball 3 things can happen and
two of them are bad (Run for a gain, Tackled for a loss, Fumble), so that
doesn't make much sense, especially when you have a QB that does not have a
propensity towards throwing INTs.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:10 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination



We were getting 6 yards a carry on the dive play.  Why throw it down field
when you can do that?  I can hear Woody Hayes talking to Meyer from the
grave.  "Only 3 things can happen when you throw a pass, and 2 of them are
bad!"

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:06 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination

 

I'm not buying the RUTS argument.  I think we would gladly take more points.
Originally the story was we run the dive play in the first 15-20 snaps to
see who on defense reacts (who takes the QB, TE, RB, etc)  But as the game
progresses and that is still a staple, I don't know.

 

Ken K

MNGator

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:53 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination

Im not sure they are tryin to RUTS at all in the big games..  i think their
entire game plan is to control the clock.  Thats why we kept seeing all
those dive plays... Im not sure if they are holding back in anticipation of
having to Play Bama and not showing them the full slate of plays or what...

 

 

 

And Oliver will love this... one of the big bosses i work with here... just
stopped by THINKING i would just rub it in about the puppies losin to
Tennessee... but I didnt say anything... not ONE word... (i only do that if
i am provoked..) but she mentioned pulling her alumni $$ support if Bobo and
Martinez arent fired.  lol  WHEW... the puppies are FIRED up this week
ladies and gents... 

 

Woody

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:38 AM,  wrote:

Good points ...

 

is this conservative play calling because Adazio is our new offensive
coordinator and OL coach?  If Gonzales (WR coach) were our OC - would we see
a lot more passes?  

 

If we were mixing the run and pass more - I would feel more comfortable.  I
would feel that we were more unpredictable.  

 

Our OL is great, and probably better than most other DLs. 

 

My concern  is - (1) injuries for our OL are starting to mount and (2) can
our OL blow holes in a great defense like Alabama?  

 

Demps, Rainey, and James are great one on one with DBs - I am still not
convinced that they can run through takles at the line of scrimmage.  If the
OL blows huge holes and gets them past the LBers - then great.  Otherwise it
is usually lost yardage.  

 

Moody, Chris Scott, Gillislee - I think could break most of the tackles.
But we rarely see Moody and never see the other two except mop up duty.  

 

 

 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Monday morning procrastination
From: "Ken Kirkley" 
Date: Mon, October 12, 2009 11:14 am
To: 

- Great weekend of football, don't know yet, but I think I went 1-11 in
pick'em.  Getting closer to Oliver's point of view that it is a stupid
game...

 

- Great win by the Gators, all the focus was on Tebow, but really this was a
defensive win.  

 

- Me thinks that the coaching staff was a little too conservative.  I wonder
if we were 4th or 5th in the polls, would we be exerting our dominance on
teams this way?

 

- While I've been called a mother before, I definitely had a different point
of view on Tebow getting hit.  When the first hit came, I thought great, now
he has that out the way and can start playing like Timmy!

 

- I like Danielson, think he does a great job.  Yes he has his talking
points, but he is still better than the rest.  Who else would you want doing
our game? (and Mic Hubert isn't allowed)

 

- Greg Doyle is a tool.

 

- Why can't we see Moody get more touches?  I thought this was the perfect
game for that to happen, but on 3rd and short he is on the side...

 

- Anyone think Less Miles is claiming a moral victory for staying within 10
of the Gators?  That is what separates the true contenders from the
pretenders.

 

- While I appreciate our ability to run 

[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gearing up for homecoming (Aschoff)

[Ken Kirkley]

Okay, I give up. Who is Rick Burgess?  I assume he plays on special teams,
but I can't find any stats on him and don't recal ever hearing his name.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

  _  


Champions

Offense: Tebow, Cooper, Mike and Maurkice Pouncey, Brandon James, Rick
Burgess, Emmanuel Moody, David Nelson, Deonte Thompson, Jeff Demps and Chris
Rainey

Offensive Player of the Game: Aaron Hernandez

Defense: A.J. Jones, Ryan Stamper, Carlos Dunlap, Justin Trattou, Jermaine
Cunningham, Major Wright, Ahmad Black, Will Hill, Joe Haden and Janoris
Jenkins

Defensive Player of the Game: Spikes

 





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2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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[gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination

[Ken Kirkley]

My thought is they play Demps and Rainey because they have the ability to
break the big gain, IF they can get to and through the hole quickly enough.
This actually helps dispel the myth that Urban and Co. are happy with long
boring drives that eat up the clock.  They would be happier if Demps could
take one of these dive plays and go 60 yards.  If they were really
interested in 12-15 play drives, they would use Moody more.
 
As I say this, I don't have anything against Demps and Rainey, I just think
we are utilizing them in the wrong way.  It is okay to run them between the
tackles occasionally to keep the defense honest, but it shouldn't be their
staple.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:11 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination


I'm with you - but other people are convinced that James, Demps and Rainey
break tackles at the line of scrimmage better than Moody, Chris Scott and
Gillislee.  
 
I am all for using all the tools in the toolbox.  
 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination
From: Badrish Davanagere 
Date: Tue, October 13, 2009 9:05 am
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

but then WHY...please somebody educate me WHY are we not using a
bigger-bodied Moody? WHY?

[I am sure somebody will say we don't know and we will never know because
there is a media black out...but I am not going to be satisfied with that
answer!!! :-) ]



On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Ken Kirkley  wrote:


Actually, Moody is leading in average yards per carry...
 
Demps 44 attempts, 390 yards 8.9 per carry
Tebow 72 attempts, 309 yards 4.3 per carry
Rainey 35 attempts 272 yards 7.8 per carry
Moody 24 attempts 230 yards 9.6 per carry
 
Also, Moody is the only running back that has yet to be tackled for a loss.
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:02 AM 

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Monday morning procrastination


Lot's of good points.  Yes, Pick'em is a dumb game.  I'm never playing
again!
Demps is getting the ball more because he's averaging 7 yards a carry.
Moody is averaging 3 or 4.  
We're playing a conservative offense because it's working.  We don't have to
rack up lots of points.  Our defense only allowed 3 points Saturday.  There
have only been 2 touchdowns scored on us all season.  And those were both
late in the game when we didn't care if they scored.
 
Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

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- Why can't we see Moody get more touches?  I thought this was the perfect
game for that to happen, but on 3rd and short he is on the side...
 
 
Ken K
MNGator
 













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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [Scripps Howard ]: Tebow takes command in Heisman Trophy poll (Lindsay)

[Ken Kirkley]

Yep, you are the only one. Not a single Auburn fan feels the same way :)
 
The HE15MAN trophy is for the most outstanding collegiate player.  There are
no other qualifiers on the ballot other than most outstanding.  I had this
discussion with a buddy the other day who was arguing about all these
players that have this stat or that stat and the only reason they aren't top
3 in the polls is because they don't play for Florida, Texas or Notre Dame.

 
My response is simple.  If you could pick any one player in college to join
your team, who would it be?  I'm not saying it would be unanimous, but with
that question, Tebow would be far in the lead.  He is simply the most
outstanding.
 
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:59 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [Scripps Howard ]: Tebow takes command
in Heisman Trophy poll (Lindsay)


Am I the only one who thinks that the Auburn RB that runs for about 150
yards a game ought to be getting some Heisman love? 

-Zeb

On Oct 15, 2009, at 9:08 AM, Shane Ford wrote:


Others receiving votes: Nebraska DT Ndamukong, Suh, 7; Miami QB Jacory
Harris, 6; Texas WR Jordan Shipley 5 (1); Kansas QB Todd Reesing 5 (1);
Alabama RB Mark Ingram 5; Stanford RB Toby Gerhart, 2; Boise State QB Kellen
Moore, 2.






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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [Scripps Howard ]: Tebow takes command in Heisman Trophy poll (Lindsay)

[Ken Kirkley]

So you are saying that Tebow and McCoy/Brantley are equivalent?
 
My point is Tebow brings something unique to the QB position that can't be
replicated easily.  Spikes may be the best MLB in the country, but he isn't
that much better than the rest of the top tier MLBs.
 
And my second choice would be Eric Berry or Ndamukong Suh.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 9:43 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [Scripps Howard ]: Tebow takes command
in Heisman Trophy poll (Lindsay)



On Oct 15, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Ken Kirkley wrote:


My response is simple.  If you could pick any one player in college to join
your team, who would it be?


O.K.

I'll pick Spikes, and I will assume that you pick Tebow.

I then pick either Colt McCoy or John Brantley. I haven't decided, but
unless you want 2 QBs, it won't matter.

Your pick.

-Zeb





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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel - Recruiting] DeLand's standout junior ATH De'Ante 'Pop' Saunders commits to Florida

[Ken Kirkley]

So I guess we can expect Kiffen to helicopter in to a Deland game soon and
offer this young man a scholly?
 
That seems to be his M.O., wait until the Gators evaluate the talent and
then go after them wholeheartedly.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Badrish Davanagere
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:51 PM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel - Recruiting] DeLand's standout junior ATH
De'Ante 'Pop' Saunders commits to Florida



orlandosentinel.com/sports/recruiting/orl-recruiting-deante-saunders-commits
-to-florida-,0,4010496.story


OrlandoSentinel.com


DeLand's standout junior ATH De'Ante 'Pop' Saunders commits to Florida


By Buddy Collings

Sentinel Staff Writer

9:53 PM EDT, October 19, 2009

DELAND - DeLand standout junior athlete De'Ante "Pop" Saunders has committed
to the University of Florida, the Gators first verbal for the 2011 signing
class.

Florida faxed a written scholarship offer to DeLand High on behalf of junior
De'Ante "Pop" Saunders on Monday. That's all it took to land a player who
starts on offense, defense and as a return man for a 7-0 state-ranked team.

Saunders, part of DeLand's "Double Barrel" combo with fellow running back
Shontrelle Johnson, a Northwestern commitment for 2010, is the No. 1-ranked
player in Sentinel's Central Florida Top 50 for juniors, and ranks No. 20 on
the Sentinel's 2011 state Top 100.

Saunders, Central Florida's leader in rushing yards with exactly 1,000,
asked his high school coach to call the Gators back and tell them he was
committed.

"It was a place that I always wanted to go," Saunders said. "Once I saw they
had a full ride for me, I knew I that what was I wanted to do. I always
liked Florida, even when I was little."

The 6-foot, 180-pound two-sport star has received major college offers for
both football and basketball. He was the leading scorer for a Nike Team
Florida basketball travel team that was runner-up in the AAU 16-and-under
national tournament.

"Right now, I'm pretty much in love with football more than I am with
basketball," Saunders said.

Saunders starts at wingback and cornerback for DeLand.

"Florida likes him for both offense and defense. They just like him as an
athlete," said DeLand Coach Kevin Pettis. "He's probably the most talented
punt returner I've ever been around."

Saunders attended UF's Friday Night Lights Camp this summer and attended a
home game against Tennessee. He saw UF home games vs. Ole Miss, LSU and
Hawaii last year with former DeLand teammate Mike Gillislee, who is now a
freshman running back for the Gators.

"That's a big factor, Mike being up there. We've been friends since we were
little," Saunders said. 

Copyright C 2009, Orlando Sentinel  

 



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[gatortalk] Re: FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: "Robbie's Playbook" --- They are what they are

[Ken Kirkley]

Better not forget the Spurcocks...
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:58 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: "Robbie's Playbook" --- They are
what they are



Yes, they are what they are.  So, this year we're putting up better numbers
against better teams.  We're also undefeated at this point.  The 2008 team,
as we all remember, was not at this point of the season.  

They had one bad game and still won.  I think this team has the potential to
do better than last year's team, and the '06 team and the '08 team and even
the '96 team.  They can still go undefeated through the regular season.
They can still win the bowl game.  If they do, they will have to be
recognized as the best team in Gator history.  

That said, if you think Arkansas was a trap game, you're going to see a
bigger trap game in StarkVegas this Saturday.  MSU has improved each week
since the season began and.  we're playing there!

I think we'll win, but it's going to be another difficult SEC game.  

I haven't looked at the Pick'em yet (dumb game) but I'll bet we're favored
by a lot less than 24 this week.

So, we get by them and we've got the leg humpers, FIU, Vandy and the semis
left.  I see the potential to go into the SECCG looking pretty good.

The WRs have to quit dropping those long bombs eventually.  They'll get
better and that should open up the running game even more.

I'm looking forward to a great rest-of-the-season.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

 

 
 

October 19th, 2009 04:29pm


They  
are what they are


by Robbie   Andreu
(Gainesville SUN)

 

 

At about the same time last season, a loss to Ole Miss seemed to unite the
Gators and send them speeding off in the right direction after some
early-season struggles. Will a near-loss to Arkansas on Saturday have a
similar effect?

Will the Gators start opening things up and turning things on like they did
during their national championship run a year ago?

It's possible. But probably not likely. That's not to say the Gators won't
run the table and reach the national title game. What I'm saying is don't
expect this UF team to become the offensive juggernaut that last year's team
did after the Ole Miss loss.

Six games into the season, it's obvious the Gators are what they are.
They're a very good defensive team that can shut down opponents when they
don't have breakdowns and mental lapses like a week ago. They're a
struggling offensive team that doesn't have the playmakers (especially in
the passing game) they had a year ago to roll up all kinds of points.

Somehow the Gators won a game they probably should have lost Saturday. Like
Tim Tebow said Monday, it took a lot of heart and character to somehow earn
a victory with those four lost fumbles and six sacks.

Maybe the near-loss will take off some of the pressure and UF will start
making some of those plays they've been just missing on offensive. Maybe
that will lead to more relaxing games and a wider margin of victory.

But the thinking here is that was just the first of what could be several
down-to-the-wire games for UF the rest of the way. The Gators know they can
win those games, just like they did Saturday.

To win the national championship, the Gators probably will have to do it the
way they did in 2006, when they managed games so well offensively and found
a way to win each week.

Buckle your seatbelts, because it could be a thrilling (and scary) ride the
rest of the way.

 





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[gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

[Ken Kirkley]

My feeling is this team is playing on the edge.  We have a few players that
are injured, a few more that are playing but not 100%, couple that with
conservative play calling and what I sense as the offense playing 'tight'.
That leads to a 31 point 1st quarter in Kentucky when everything goes right
or to a 10 point win against UT when Tim fumbles late or a near death
experience when we get into the redzone 4 times with zero points to show for
the effort.
 
In the Arky game, if we don't fumble, we win going away.  Arky had to play
the best game of their lives and we had to play our worst.  Still it took
essentially two defensive breakdowns to keep them in the game.  If we make
one of the 5 missed tackles on the long TD run, or if Janoris doesn't get
caught playing the run (for the 2nd time), the long pass play doesn't
happen.
 
For everyone who is saying it is okay to play conservative, survive and
advance, that is fine but it leaves no room for error.  This team needs to
learn to trust the younger receivers, play a little looser  and have a
margin for error when we get the best from our opponent.
 
Having said that, I do think we will turn it around.  Everyone wants to talk
about how great Alabama is, but that USC game was a lot closer than the
final score indicated.  If SOS wasn't so damn stubborn and insisted on
throwing the same fade pattern from the 4, 3 times in a row - that game
might be different as well.
 
I think we figure it out this week.  Miss St was always known for tough
defense, not sure they have that this year.  Their offense is better, but
they don't have the athletes they need to run the spread effectively against
our defense.  Gators 42 Miss St. 3
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:24 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?


That depends a lot on the quality of the opponent.  Kentucky, Vanderbilt,
and less talented teams - fear everything and hope to catch us napping.  
 
But the better teams - do they fear our defense?  What about after the
Arkansas game?  The only real offense we have played this year.  
 
Do they fear our offense?  Obviously they are psyched out about Tebow.  But
what if we played Brantley instead of Tebow - would they fear our offense?
 
Do they fear our special teams?  Use to be - whenever Brandon James would go
out to field a kickoff or a punt - everyone was on the edge of their seat.
And when it came time for our opponents to punt - everyone sat on the edge
of their seat - wondering if we would block it?  
 
Or do we suffer from a phenom of where we have so many talents - that no one
talent stands out - so we have nothing special about us?  After all we are
ranked #1 and lead the SEC in many categories.  
 
I would say the latter - but "college football experts" see that in Alabama
- but not us?




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[gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

[Ken Kirkley]

My feeling is this team is playing on the edge.  We have a few players that
are injured, a few more that are playing but not 100%, couple that with
conservative play calling and what I sense as the offense playing 'tight'.
That leads to a 31 point 1st quarter in Kentucky when everything goes right
or to a 10 point win against UT when Tim fumbles late or a near death
experience when we get into the redzone 4 times with zero points to show for
the effort.
 
In the Arky game, if we don't fumble, we win going away.  Arky had to play
the best game of their lives and we had to play our worst.  Still it took
essentially two defensive breakdowns to keep them in the game.  If we make
one of the 5 missed tackles on the long TD run, or if Janoris doesn't get
caught playing the run (for the 2nd time), the long pass play doesn't
happen.
 
For everyone who is saying it is okay to play conservative, survive and
advance, that is fine but it leaves no room for error.  This team needs to
learn to trust the younger receivers, play a little looser  and have a
margin for error when we get the best from our opponent.
 
Having said that, I do think we will turn it around.  Everyone wants to talk
about how great Alabama is, but that USC game was a lot closer than the
final score indicated.  If SOS wasn't so damn stubborn and insisted on
throwing the same fade pattern from the 4, 3 times in a row - that game
might be different as well.
 
I think we figure it out this week.  Miss St was always known for tough
defense, not sure they have that this year.  Their offense is better, but
they don't have the athletes they need to run the spread effectively against
our defense.  Gators 42 Miss St. 3
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:24 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?


That depends a lot on the quality of the opponent.  Kentucky, Vanderbilt,
and less talented teams - fear everything and hope to catch us napping.  
 
But the better teams - do they fear our defense?  What about after the
Arkansas game?  The only real offense we have played this year.  
 
Do they fear our offense?  Obviously they are psyched out about Tebow.  But
what if we played Brantley instead of Tebow - would they fear our offense?
 
Do they fear our special teams?  Use to be - whenever Brandon James would go
out to field a kickoff or a punt - everyone was on the edge of their seat.
And when it came time for our opponents to punt - everyone sat on the edge
of their seat - wondering if we would block it?  
 
Or do we suffer from a phenom of where we have so many talents - that no one
talent stands out - so we have nothing special about us?  After all we are
ranked #1 and lead the SEC in many categories.  
 
I would say the latter - but "college football experts" see that in Alabama
- but not us?




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[gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

[Ken Kirkley]

I was just trying to nut up.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:29 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?



You can say that again.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Kirkley
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:24 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

 

My feeling is this team is playing on the edge.  We have a few players that
are injured, a few more that are playing but not 100%, couple that with
conservative play calling and what I sense as the offense playing 'tight'.
That leads to a 31 point 1st quarter in Kentucky when everything goes right
or to a 10 point win against UT when Tim fumbles late or a near death
experience when we get into the redzone 4 times with zero points to show for
the effort.

 

In the Arky game, if we don't fumble, we win going away.  Arky had to play
the best game of their lives and we had to play our worst.  Still it took
essentially two defensive breakdowns to keep them in the game.  If we make
one of the 5 missed tackles on the long TD run, or if Janoris doesn't get
caught playing the run (for the 2nd time), the long pass play doesn't
happen.

 

For everyone who is saying it is okay to play conservative, survive and
advance, that is fine but it leaves no room for error.  This team needs to
learn to trust the younger receivers, play a little looser  and have a
margin for error when we get the best from our opponent.

 

Having said that, I do think we will turn it around.  Everyone wants to talk
about how great Alabama is, but that USC game was a lot closer than the
final score indicated.  If SOS wasn't so damn stubborn and insisted on
throwing the same fade pattern from the 4, 3 times in a row - that game
might be different as well.

 

I think we figure it out this week.  Miss St was always known for tough
defense, not sure they have that this year.  Their offense is better, but
they don't have the athletes they need to run the spread effectively against
our defense.  Gators 42 Miss St. 3

 

Ken K

MNGator

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:24 AM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] What are our opponents afraid of - when playing us?

That depends a lot on the quality of the opponent.  Kentucky, Vanderbilt,
and less talented teams - fear everything and hope to catch us napping.  

 

But the better teams - do they fear our defense?  What about after the
Arkansas game?  The only real offense we have played this year.  

 

Do they fear our offense?  Obviously they are psyched out about Tebow.  But
what if we played Brantley instead of Tebow - would they fear our offense?

 

Do they fear our special teams?  Use to be - whenever Brandon James would go
out to field a kickoff or a punt - everyone was on the edge of their seat.
And when it came time for our opponents to punt - everyone sat on the edge
of their seat - wondering if we would block it?  

 

Or do we suffer from a phenom of where we have so many talents - that no one
talent stands out - so we have nothing special about us?  After all we are
ranked #1 and lead the SEC in many categories.  

 

I would say the latter - but "college football experts" see that in Alabama
- but not us?

[gatortalk] Re: "Just win"

[Ken Kirkley]

If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going
away.  If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice
and miss a field goal, we win going away.  We have to force teams to throw
to force turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by
playing ball control.  
 
Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone
will start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: "Just win"


We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has
been at UF. 
Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do
in the beginning of the season. 
By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the
machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I
know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3
touchdowns for the season. 
As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile.
Maybe we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season
we've come to expect. 

Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win
is a win. Let's enjoy the ride. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: Steve McKibben  
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT)
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: "Just win"

--- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody  wrote:



A win is a win is a win... Ill take em.  But is anyone else getting the
impression that that mentality may be setting us back?


The fan base more than the team, IMO


 - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in.  But will that remain true if
Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues?


If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that
in the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which
selects the participants in the title game), then, if we "just win" out,
we'll get to decide the "BCS semi-final" on the field with them. To carry
that further, even if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama
would likely get us back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's
win, we're in.


- these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an
excuse.. he's been on his game.  But the entire game cannot rest on his
shoulders.


I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's
where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive
play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and
possibly pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay,
and (ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to
gash LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and
we struggled on the ground against them for the most part.


- "just win" because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they
are not as good of a team as we thought.  That atleast seems to be true... 


And that could be true - especially if the "as good of a team as we thought"
part means as good as those hyper inflated "best team ever" expectations. 

- "just win" because Addazzio is still getting his feet wet as a OC and is
going through a learning curve, hence why we are not very productive.  Maybe
he's playin it too safe and doesnt wanna screw up?  


While he's the OC, our plays are scripted called, and reviewed by committee
and Meyer has the final say. Not saying the old OL coach doesn't like to
give his hosses the opportunity to play smashmouth, but I think if anyone is
reigning in the playcalling, it's probably Meyer.


look..I know meyer isnt happy that we arent happy with just accepting a
win... i dont think thats what we are up in arms about... Im not so sure
thats the case at all... i think everyone of us would accept a win... but I
do think this mentality of "just go in and get out with a win" may be the
wrong mindset.  I think it also shows that Meyer doesnt have that much
confidence in this team or someone that is keeping them from being a
dominant figure.


Last year we were very good at not turing the ball over and also very good
at taking it away. That gave our offense a lot of short fields (and in many
cases defensive scores) that allowed our naturally conservative coaches to
loosen up a bit. This year, so far at least, we are minus in the turnover
column, and therefore are looking at longer fields in tighter games, so the
conservative nature shines through. If we'll start getting some timely
turnovers, or more importantly, stop giving them away I think you'll feel a
lot better about the scoreboard.  

 Again.. maybe im thinking too far into it all

A long drive after a tight game will do that!


... but right now.. Mi

[gatortalk] Re: "Just win"

[Ken Kirkley]

I agree, we shouldn't play the would have could have game.  It is our opponents 
(fans) who are playing that to derive a Vol* victory out of their games with 
the Gators.  
 
I am simply pointing out that the games were close due to our mistakes, not 
theirs.  And we still won.  If we can clean up our game, we will be rolling.
 
There are many theories (see GatorCountry for our many coaches plans...) as to 
how to solve our woes, but it essentially comes down to holding on to the 
football on offense and making tackles on defense.  
 
Ken K
MNGator
 
* Main Entry: vol 
Pronunciation: \ˌvä-l
Function: noun 
Etymology: obsolete French 
Date: circa 1600

1 : a person who derives a loss as a win : one who has but few teeth: one who 
reveres as ones leader a complete buffoon : one who has a sense of entitlement 
without bearing
2 : a complete hillbilly


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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:52 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: "Just win"


 I don't play the "coulda, woulda, shoulda" game.  For example, Arkansas is 
going around now and saying - if that personal foul call had not been made - 
Arkansas would have won the game.  
 

From: "Ken Kirkley"  
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:25:40 -0500
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: "Just win"

If Tebow doesn't fumble on the 2 against UT, we are up 31-6 and win going away. 
 If Cooper doesn't drop a TD bomb last week and we don't fumble twice and miss 
a field goal, we win going away.  We have to force teams to throw to force 
turnovers and right now they are staying close (or leading) by playing ball 
control.  
 
Stop making mistakes and start opening up the offense a bit and everyone will 
start talking about how we have finally gotten into our rhythm.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:57 AM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: "Just win"


We're really playing pretty much like we have every season since Meyer has been 
at UF. 
Although we may be a bit more conservative than usual we're doing what we do in 
the beginning of the season. 
By the end, when we get to Alabama, I suspect the offense will gel into the 
machine it is capable of being. And the defense, there's no worry there. I 
know, they have a 1 quarter let down. Take that away and they've allowed 3 
touchdowns for the season. 
As I mentioned earlier, let's let Bammy carry that AP albatross awhile. Maybe 
we'll loosen up a little more and have the big finish to the season we've come 
to expect. 

Steve is right. The big blowouts are fan generated expectations. Yes, a win is 
a win. Let's enjoy the ride. 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: Steve McKibben  
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT)
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: "Just win"

--- On Wed, 10/21/09, Woody  wrote:



A win is a win is a win... Ill take em.  But is anyone else getting the 
impression that that mentality may be setting us back?


The fan base more than the team, IMO


 - We're #1... and so long as we win we're in.  But will that remain true if 
Bama or whoever shows to be more impressive as the season continues?


If it's only Bama that leapfrogs us (and keep in mind they've only done that in 
the AP poll so far, which is NOT a component of the BCS poll which selects the 
participants in the title game), then, if we "just win" out, we'll get to 
decide the "BCS semi-final" on the field with them. To carry that further, even 
if we were to drop to #4 in the BCS, a win over a #1 Bama would likely get us 
back in the top 2. #3 or better at that point and it's win, we're in.


- these problems are not just due to Tebows concussion.. that cannot be an 
excuse.. he's been on his game.  But the entire game cannot rest on his 
shoulders.


I'll be interested to see if we run the read option play this week. That's 
where Tebow puts the ball in the tailback's belly as if he's running a dive 
play then, depending on his read, can pull it out and run it wide, and possibly 
pitch it to the trailer. We were killing Kentucky with that pay, and 
(ostensibly) to protect Tebow, we have not run it since. We were able to gash 
LSU with the straight dive, but Arkansas schemed to take that away, and we 
struggled on the ground against them for the most part.


- "just win" because the entire year is going to be a struggle because they are 
not as good of a team as we thought.  That atleast seems to be true... 


And that could be true - especially if the "as good of a team as we thought" 
part means as good as those hyper inflated "be

[gatortalk] Re: Sitting out a year

[Ken Kirkley]

It's because they want the STUDENT-athlete to choose where they play based
on the college, not the coach.  I agree with the intent, but it sure seems
artificial based on how often coaches leave for the big $$. 


Ken K
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:50 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Sitting out a year


I don't know, but I bet it's a deterrent. They don't want the recruits to
just go wherever they want to after the time has been invested in them by
the institution.

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cathryn Lasky
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:44 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Sitting out a year


Ok, so I was just thinking, (I know dangerous thing), about why the football
players have to sit out a year if they transfer schools, but the coaches
don't.  Why is that?






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[gatortalk] Re: Tebow and pass effiency

[Ken Kirkley]

I think it is the coaches not having the confidence in the younger
receivers, so for the most part we are running a 1 or 2 WR set.  It is hard
to see on TV since they don't show the whole play developing (must be part
of that media blackout thingy), but the times you can see our receivers
quite often they are simply there to pull the safeties to one side of the
field or to begin blocking.  Even in our 5 wide sets, we rarely look past
Cooper and Hernandez.  
The whole team is playing tight.  Coaches and players.  It is a game, go out
have fun.  I mean after all, according to the MiamiPalmBeachPostHerald news
this morning:

"But the truth is, Tim Tebow isn't deserving of all this Heisman talk.
Not this year, anyway. Not when he's having an ordinary season on a team
that hasn't lived up to expectations."

At 6-0, ranked #1, we are just ordinary...

 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:59 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Tebow and pass effiency


To be honest, I haven't seen much evidence of that - at least not since the
Kentucky game (if then). He either hasn't had much time, or he's been hot to
tuck and run.

--- On Fri, 10/23/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com  wrote:





What about the new QB coach wanting tebow to check 3rd and 4th receivers? 
 

 Original Message 


There has been a lot of discussion on our passing game, what's wrong/right
with it, etc.

Any criticisms are usually met, at least once, with it being pointed out
that UF/Tebow are #1 in passing efficiency, and therefore we can't be doing
all that badly.

I don't know if it's down to Tebow's "look once, twice - run" mentality,
Meyer's obsession with ball security, or what, but I believe that the pass
efficiency rating is, at least partially, a byproduct of perhaps being too
careful with the ball.

That sounds like a silly concept, but consider the following: When did our
offense really seem to find it's feet last year? Most point to the second
half of the Arky game. And a great deal of that spark came from the long
runs from Demps and Rainey, I know, but those may have been influenced to
some degree by the Hogs' defenders having to concern themselves with a
bolder Tebow.

Bolder how? I suggest that throwing the pick that he did in the first half,
which ended a long string of attempts without one, may have "freed" Tim to
take more chances passing the ball.

>From what I've observed, this season Tim rarely passes the ball on timing
routes - he seems to need to see separation first, before he'll pass. When
he doesn't, and pulls the ball down and runs, there is no chance for an INT,
and the pass efficiency rating doesn't suffer, but as a result we may miss
out on some big plays for the sake of staying out of bad ones.

Again, that may be (and has been) ascribed to a number of reasons, from a
lack of confidence/coordination with the receivers, lingering effects from
his concussion, or just a conservative nature inherent to Tim or instilled
in him by the coaches. 

I'm not saying that any of our team is playing for stats at the expense of
production, I just feel that the sometimes ultra-conservative way we've seen
the passing game implemented may be as big of a factor in achieving that one
particular statistic, and as such it may not be the best way to judge how
effective our passing game has been up to this point in time.

I hope that by Sunday morning we'll all feel better about how we're passing
the ball, and this post will look foolish in hindsight (ducking!).  








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[gatortalk] PD still has it...

[Ken Kirkley]

Appropos of nothing, just thought this was a hilarious line by PD on
GatorCountry.  The comment was in response to a post on Lame Kiffen and how
he keeps getting pub for taking shots at Florida.
 
"That reminds me - tonight I'm attending a demonstration to protest dissent
and public assembly."
 
 
That is all.

 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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[gatortalk] Re: Hmmmmm

[Ken Kirkley]

 I hear you, but as a rational football fan, you can't be happy with the way
we are playing.  Yes we are winning, but we are also allowing significantly
less talented teams to keep it interesting.

My comment tonight when asked if I thought we were still #1 was "We can beat
any team in the country, but any of the top 50 teams could beat us if the
ball bounces the wrong way."

We need to stop making mistakes,develop a killer instinct and put teams
away.


Ken K
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:22 PM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Hm

Yeah, we're terrible. We just won in Starkeville for the first time since
1812. We're 7-0, only 4 other undefeated teams. 
And, 17-0 is the current recoord.  Best current record in the country!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Gatornet Admin" 
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:11:04
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Hm


I purposely stayed away from GT until AFTER the game. My paranoia was bad 
enough; I didn't need y'all feeding it. ;-)

An ugly win is better than a pretty loss. Just ask Kiffin.

Randy

- Original Message - 
From: "Gatorr" 
To: "Gatortalk" 
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:09 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Hm


>
> You guys are afully quiet today. Are we all a lil on edge/nervous?
>
> I am on date #2 this eve and we're bout to find out if they can
> tolerate me during game time. Prolly not a good game to try this out on
>
> Woody
>
> > 








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[gatortalk] Re: Hmmmmm

[Ken Kirkley]

If you want to play that game, we will lose to Ugaly.  They beat Arkansas by
11 at Arkansas, we only beat them by 3 at home.

As Pat Dooley likes to say, every game is its own game.  Yes we are winning
and we may very well end up winning them all.  But that doesn't mean there
isn't room for improvement. You are in sales, if you hit your quota for the
quarter, but miss what you thought was a sure fire sale, are you happy?


Ken K
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:34 PM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Hm

Who are we going to lose to?
Alabama?  We beat Tenn worse than the did!
Yes, they make me pace the floor and scream a lot, but we're still winning,
and that's enoung for tonight. 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Ken Kirkley" 
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:27:05
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Hm


 I hear you, but as a rational football fan, you can't be happy with the way
we are playing.  Yes we are winning, but we are also allowing significantly
less talented teams to keep it interesting.

My comment tonight when asked if I thought we were still #1 was "We can beat
any team in the country, but any of the top 50 teams could beat us if the
ball bounces the wrong way."

We need to stop making mistakes,develop a killer instinct and put teams
away.


Ken K
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:22 PM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Hm

Yeah, we're terrible. We just won in Starkeville for the first time since
1812. We're 7-0, only 4 other undefeated teams. 
And, 17-0 is the current recoord.  Best current record in the country!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Gatornet Admin" 
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:11:04
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Hm


I purposely stayed away from GT until AFTER the game. My paranoia was bad 
enough; I didn't need y'all feeding it. ;-)

An ugly win is better than a pretty loss. Just ask Kiffin.

Randy

- Original Message - 
From: "Gatorr" 
To: "Gatortalk" 
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:09 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Hm


>
> You guys are afully quiet today. Are we all a lil on edge/nervous?
>
> I am on date #2 this eve and we're bout to find out if they can
> tolerate me during game time. Prolly not a good game to try this out on
>
> Woody
>
> > 














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[gatortalk] Re: Stats 2009 Drinking With The Enemy

[Ken Kirkley]

When did you become an LSU fan?
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:48 PM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Stats 2009 Drinking With The Enemy


Does anyone have his cell phone #? If each of us sent him 2 text messages...
What's that 300?
Yep, that'd do it. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: "Gatornet Admin"  
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:28:02 -0400
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Stats 2009 Drinking With The Enemy

Me, too.
 
Randy
 

- Original Message - 
From: Oliver   Barry 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Stats 2009 Drinking With The Enemy


Very nice.  I wish Jeff would come on back to Gatortalk.  

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:56 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Stats 2009 Drinking With The Enemy

 

I don't think Jeff is subscribed here right now, but he did take the time to
update his annual post at the Virtual Swamp. It's pinned to the top, so you
can miss it:

 

http://mudlizard.com/swamp/display.pl?page=top

&mess=170585200

 

Enjoy! 












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[gatortalk] Re: Fw: [gatornews] [SUN]: "The Chalkboard" --- Florida-Georgia winner to get "Okefenokee Oar" [Crabbe]

[Ken Kirkley]

I think this is pretty silly.  Here in Big Televen country it seems they
give a trophy out for every single regular season game.  You get trophies
for winning championships, not for beating rivals.  For that you get
scoreboard and a year of bragging rights.
 
Here is a sampling of the awesome trophies to be had:
 
Wisconsin - Minnesota Paul Bunyan's Axe 
Michigan - Minnesota Little Brown Jug 
Iowa - Minnesota Floyd of Rosedale
Illinois - Northwestern Sweet Sioux Tomahawk  
Purdue - Indiana Old Oaken Bucket 
Indiana - Michigan State Old Brass Spittoon (nice!)
Iowa - Wisconsin Heartland Trophy 
Michigan - Michigan State Paul Bunyan Trophy 
Illinois - Ohio State  Illibuck 
Illinois - Purdue Purdue Cannon 
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of oli...@bobparks.com
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:36 PM
To: Gator Talk
Subject: [gatortalk] Fw: [gatornews] [SUN]: "The Chalkboard" ---
Florida-Georgia winner to get "Okefenokee Oar" [Crabbe]


Has anyone seen this oar? 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: Shane Ford  
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:28:34 -0500
To: 
Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: "The Chalkboard" --- Florida-Geor gia winner to
get "Okefenokee Oar" [Crabbe]


 



October 28th, 2009 01:53pm


 
 Florida-Georgia winner to get "Okefenokee Oar"


by   Nathan Crabbe
(Gainesville SUN)

 

 

The winner of this Saturday's Florida-Georgia game will get a wooden oar to
go along with bragging rights.

The University of Florida Student Government announced Wednesday that the
"Okefenokee Oar" would be presented to the game's winner starting this year,
in the hopes of establishing an annual tradition.

"It's just a way to increase the friendly competition in the game," said
Eric Conrad, student government spokesman.

Presenting such a trophy follows in the tradition of

other rivarly games. The winner of Michigan-Minnesota gets the Little Brown
Jug, the winner of Minnesota-Wisconsin gets Paul Bunyan's Axe and other
teams have also exchanged quirky items in longstanding rivalries.

The oar, which will be presented to the student government president of the
winning university, is carved from a 1,000-year-old cypress tree cut from
the   Okefenokee Swamp, according to student
government. The swamp straddles the Florida-Georgia border.

The oar is "supposed to symbolize the area that has always been fought over
by the states," Conrad said.

 







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[gatortalk] Re: Brandon Spikes getting aggressive in the pile

[Ken Kirkley]

I saw this during the game and yes it was dirty play.  I don't like to see
it, but I do believe this was one of the dirtiest games we have been in.
>From The beaten pup who refused to give Tebow a hand up off the ground, the
chippiness of the pups, the pulling on ankles, etc., etc.
 
The pups came into this game thinking they could smash us in the mouth and
we would back down, instead we gave them a taste of their own medicine.  
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sandy Alonso
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:01 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Brandon Spikes getting aggressive in the pile


While I don't find this defensible, I'm curious as to what point in the game
this was - very early in the game (the first two series, as a matter of
fact), I noticed there were multiple cheap shots directed solely at Spikes
by Georgia players.  

- Original Message - 
From: Helen Huntley   
To: gatortalk   
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 5:59 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Brandon Spikes getting aggressive in the pile

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_uf/2009/10/what-is-brandon-s
pikes-doing-on-this-play.html#comments 
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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Bianchi: Unrivaled: Tebow, Gators leave their mark on Dogs

[Ken Kirkley]

I think Robin has lost it.  I will forever  hate the pups, in large part
because of L#&*!# S#&*!# play.  If the team ever loses that passion, our
dominance will end.  Maybe in a 100 years when the pups are playing DII
(they have the helmets already) ball and we have a 90 game lead on them, we
can stop calling it a rivalry.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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Florida's disregard for everything that Georgia once stood for was summed up
in a hotel lobby in Jacksonville Friday night. That's when Robin Fisher, a
former UF defensive tackle who played in the famous L#&*!#   S#&*!#  loss to
Georgia in 1980, shook his head and said, "You know, I don't even hate
Georgia anymore."

How can you hate a program you've beaten 17 of the last 20 times? How can
you hate a team you've beaten 90-27 the last two seasons?




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[gatortalk] Re: Ugly Unis

[Ken Kirkley]

I always thought the gimmick unis were for the teams trying to get noticed.
We don't need to do that, let Grambling, err, I mean Georiga and UT play
those games.  In fact, I can't stand our blue on blue or white on white.

Although all of these uni combos produced one of the best lines of the
weekend.  On the AJC site, a reader comment was to the effect "Urban spent
the last week watching game film, Richt spent the last two weeks looking at
color swatches" 


Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Willie
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:59 AM
To: GatorTalk
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Ugly Unis


How about Blue helmets?


On Nov 1, 9:02 pm, "Charlie"  wrote:
> I guess black uni's are in everyones future. Apparently black is sort 
> of a universal color that can be used regardless whether it's your team
color.
> RE: Tennessee
>
>   _
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> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] 
> On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:43 PM
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Ugly Unis
>
> I don't really have a problem with black, but I'd hate for it to 
> appear we were copying anyone.
>
> Randy
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Dave Rice 
> To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:07 PM
> Subject: [gatortalk] Ugly Unis
>
> Just a shot across anybody's bow over in Gainesville:
>
> If the Gators wear black unis, I'm going to fire off a real nasty 
> email. I realize that basketball & softball have worn them, and 
> there's no excuse for that. Florida's colors should always be Gator 
> blue & Gator orange. That's all.
>
> Go Gators,
>
> Dave Rice
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[gatortalk] Re: TT vs. Herschel

[Ken Kirkley]

It doesn't matter how you want to look at it.  I agree that Herschels bowl
game stats should be included, so Tim will break the record with 4 more TDs.
But to say the records should be based on per game stats is ridiculous.
Herschel touched the ball 994 times, Tim is below 600.  So when the season
is done, Tim will have carried the ball almost 200 time less than Herschel.
Also, when Tim gets sacked, that counts as a carry, Walkers carries were all
designed running plays.  even including the lost yardage for sacks, Tim
averages 4.3 ypc, Walker 5.3.
 
What makes this record so amazing is that Tim is a QB and he has also thrown
for 77 TDs!  And just for the record, Tim has only scored 2 of his rshing
TDs in bowl games, Walker had 5.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:23 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: TT vs. Herschel


I have read and heard this argument now about a dozen times. 

CBS even included it in their graphic when the record was broken.

There are two problems with this argument:

1. It is stupid. Players nowadays can accumulate stats in a 12th regular
season game and a conference championship game, but it is the bowl game rule
that is letting career stats be broken? Really? 

TT had 14 games count last year, Walker had 11 each of his year. That's
where the variable is, not the bowl issue. This is the same reason that
breaking O.J.'s single season rushing record in a 16 game season when it was
set in a 12 game season is silly. Pundits everywhere saw this coming when
the season was lengthened and bowl games were made official.  

All of career and season stats should be kept on an average per game basis,
but they are not because - if they did - Jim Brown would still be the NFL's
leading rusher. Until someone adopts this method, the rule is the rule.

Which leads to...

2. Why is Tebow the first time that anyone has brought this issue up? There
are dozens of records that have been "broken" only because of the 12th game
plus the bowl game. I have never seen the issue raised until now, much less
in a graphic by the broadcast company when the record was broken. Another
good example is Bowden's victory total that includes what would be Division
II victories at Samford. At the time, there was no distinction, so the NCAA
rule is that they count as Division I. A dumb rule, but a rule is a rule,
and no one brings the issue up - unless it is Tebow.

-Zeb


On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Juno Gator wrote:


QB Tim Tebow
Looked like the Tebow of old Saturday, completing 15-of-21 passes for 164
yards and two touchdowns, and rushing 18 times for 85 yards and two more
touchdowns. Tebow had his first turnover-free day since Sept. 26 against
Kentucky, and the offense generally looked crisp and prepared against a soft
Georgia defense. And props to Tebow for scoring career rushing touchdowns 50
and 51, breaking Herschel Walker's rushing touchdown record. True Tebow
fans, though, won't be happy until Tebow gets to 55 touchdowns, because we
all know that Walker really had 54. Walker had five touchdowns in bowl games
that the SEC refuses to apply retro-actively for some reason, even though
the SEC counts Tebow's bowl game TDs.






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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge [Barlis]

[Ken Kirkley]

I believe Brandon thought his glasses needed cleaning and was just trying to
be helpful.  It was very unfortunate that he wasn't wearing glasses though.
 
Seriously, this is being blown way out of proportion by egomaniacal
sportswriters.  They had to have something to talk about this week, I mean
afterall, no one was eating a hotdog on the sidelines.  This game was dirty
from the word go, there were punches, late hits, spitting, gouging, etc.
This one got caught on video, the others didn't.  If it was really as bad as
it looked, I can assure you Georgia would have paraded Ealey out in front of
the media to show his 'gouged' eye.
 
I do agree with Ken that Georgia should step up and suspend their player who
intentionally took a cheap shot at Tebow.  To me that one was worse, Tebow
was out of the play, the play was winding down and the pup comes and cheap
shots Tebow.  Talk about inviting injuries, if you don't call that, then
don't complain about anything else in the game.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:30 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
game for eye gouge [Barlis]


Does anyone know of or have a photo of Brandon with his eye patch torn off,
or getting the saline squirt after he was poked in the eye? 

By the way, isn't there a distinction between being poked in the eye and
getting one gouged? I'd think the gouge would get behind the eyeball to
physically pull it out of the skull, and a poke would be a poke. I'll have
to check my medieval torture manuals.

>From what I've seen, it looked like a poke, not a gouge.

-Zeb

On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:29 PM, Darlene Goodfellow wrote:


The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the rest
of the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before
taking matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and
I'm satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded
but it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked.






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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [Yahoo! Sports]: Florida's punishment of Spikes doesn't fit crime (Wetzel)

[Ken Kirkley]

When I was talking about egomaniacal sportswriters, did I mention
self-rightous too?
 
so Dan, what would be the appropriate punishment?  Would you punish only
those who get caught on video?  Would you punish the late hit on Tebow?
 
Ken K
MNGator

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From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:39 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] [Yahoo! Sports]: Florida's punishment of Spikes doesn't
fit crime (Wetzel)



Florida's punishment of Spikes doesn't fit crime


By
 Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports Nov 2, 2:56 pm EST 

 

 

Eye-gouging is considered such a foul, filthy act that it's banned by even
our most blatantly combative exercises, including mixed martial arts and pro
wrestling.

Sheriff Urban Meyer of the Gainesville PD isn't as concerned, apparently.

The SEC says it accepts Florida's first-half suspension of defensive captain
Brandon Spikes for an eye-gouging incident last week. 

Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes was
 caught on film
purposefully jamming his fingers through the facemask of Georgia running
back Washaun Ealey on Saturday in an effort to rip at Ealey's eyes.

It was about as ugly and unbecoming of a play as there is in football.

For the act, Meyer will bench his star linebacker for the first half of the
Gators' game against Vanderbilt.

Repeat: one half. That penalty isn't a joke, although the man dishing it out
is acting like one.

There is almost no excuse for Spikes' conduct. None. It was a dirty play and
one with serious ramifications. There's a reason violently poking your
fingers at someone's eye is a zero tolerance offense. The other guy can go
blind. He has no ability to protect himself.

Football is an emotional, violent pursuit and acts like this happen more
than the camera catches. "I don't think that we did anything in that game
that they didn't do," quarterback Tim Tebow told reporters.

That's the excuse of a child though. The other-guy-does-it-too is never a
justifiable defense. It wouldn't even matter if Ealey had provoked him (the
two had been jawing prior to the incident).

Spikes is the one who got caught.

Meyer ought to be man enough to know this, which is why his decision to dole
out such a light punishment is more pathetic than Spikes' original sin.

UF athletic director Jeremy Foley or SEC commissioner Mike Slive should've
stepped in and issued a real suspension.

"I don't condone that," Meyer told reporters Monday of Spikes' play.

Gee, really, you don't condone it?

"We're going to suspend Brandon for the first half of the Vanderbilt game,"
Meyer said. "I talked to him, that's not who he is. I love Brandon Spikes,
the team does. We're going to move on. He has our full support."

Florida is begging for an adult to lead them. Meyer isn't it when it comes
to player conduct. He may be a heck of a football coach, great recruiter,
perhaps even devout family man and charitable person.

It doesn't change the fact this was a craven decision.

This is a sport, unfortunately, where you don't need to run a program the
right way to earn massive fame, fortune and support though. A large
proportion of Gator fans wouldn't care if Ealey's eye had been damaged. It's
like that with every college team.

For too many fans it's just about winning games. They'll pretend Meyer is
doing it the right way whether he is or not. They'll justify Spikes' act and
the light penalty somehow.

Meyer and Foley know that. They know football runs the school and, as such,
no one who runs the school will mess with football. So they'll do as they
wish and pretend it's no big deal.

The fans will cheer anyway. The checks will clear regardless. Spikes may
even have another 10-tackle, pick-six afternoon like he did against Georgia.

There ought to be more though. Dirty plays are dirty plays. Meyer may be
correct that this act isn't who Spikes is. Fine. No one is saying he's a
monster. Sitting him for a couple of games isn't disproportionate punishment
though.

A lesson needs to be taught. A standard should be upheld. Some discipline
has to be displayed - both to those inside and outside the program.

The University of Florida should care about more than the pursuit of a glass
football trophy.

This is about winning games by any means necessary, it's about justifying
and enabling out-of-control play, it's about brushing off concerns about the
safety of opposing players.

The timing is interesting that on the same day UF was giving a wrist slap
for an eye gouge, Oregon was set to reinstate running back LeGarrette Blount
for his sucker punch of a Boise State player and attempted charge at fans
back in September.

It took less than 24 hours for Oregon to suspend Blount for the

[gatortalk] Re: Nu'keese transferring rumors...

[Ken Kirkley]

For those that didn't click on the link, here are two of my favorite posts
from that board:
 
"Talk out of Knoxvegas per a friend of mine there is that he is not happy at
all with his role and misses home...Sounds like he is gone IMO and his mind
is already made up...I hate to see it but these things will happen...Stay
Nuke if you want that championship and the real chance to play on Sunday's!"
 
"Kiffin tells it like it is. I doubt its coach talk."
 
Seems as if Volsenheimers is now mutating into Delusinoles...
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Badrish Davanagere
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:50 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Nu'keese transferring rumors...


http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/84579-we-want-nuke-st
ay-7.html


On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Badrish Davanagere 
wrote:


...heard that Kiffin had to issue a public statement that it was just
thata big rumor!

Anybody hearing/heard more?







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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator

[Ken Kirkley]

No way, no how do you keep an offense vanilla all year to keep game film
away from offenses.  They all have seen what we can do when we open it up
and there is plenty of film from last year to view.  I think it is
conservative playcalling and lack of execution.  I think 3 of the sacks
yesterday were on Tebow, holding the ball too long instead of making a
decision to throw it away.  But is it because he didn't have anyone open due
to bad play call, poor route running?  I don't know, I did think it was odd
on his TD pass that Nelson was behind Cooper, usually you don't bring extra
defenders into the area.
 
This team is an enigma, we know they can score, but for some reason we
don't, we act like we are in the NFL and play ball control, field position
football.  That will win a lot of games with our talent, but will also leave
little margin for error when mistakes are made.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:50 PM
To: GatorTalk
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and
Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator


Ok, I'm sure many of us have thought it, but just haven't actually voiced
it. Try this on for size and see what you think. 
 
I've been thinking for some time that we have become the masters of the
vanilla offense. Everyone thinks our offense is struggling, but I think we
are doing just enough to win the game yet not give game tape material to
opossing coaches. With the exception of the Georgia game, which we all knew
would be a "pull out all the stops" game, I think Tebow and the offense is
doing EXACTLY what Meyer wants. 
 
So far, the only good game tape Saban and Mack Brown have to study is the
UGA game. Not much there to prepare for, is there?

Randy

- Original Message - 
From: Juno Gator 
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:38 PM
Subject: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
courtesy of JunoGator

 Lethargic Florida Gators swamp Vanderbilt

snip, snip, snip---

Florida Gators 27, Vanderbilt 3: Where are all the playmakers?

snip, snip, snip---

Gators struggle on offense again, beat Vandy 27-3

snip, snip, snip--- 

Florida Gators offense struggles against Vandy

snip, snip, snip--- 

Florida Gators beat Vanderbilt, but it's a struggle

snip, snip, snip---

Sunday Rewind: Yes, Urban Meyer, the Gators' win over Vanderbilt was
'ho-hum'




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RE: [gatortalk] Tenn robbers still not off the team?

[Ken Kirkley]

I don't think we should be throwing stones at UT over this.  They have
suspended the players for this game, so let's not rush to judgement as to
the final penalty.
 
I hate Kiffy as much as the next Gator, but this is about 4 young adults who
have made a terrible mistake and might have thrown their lives away.  Armed
robbery in most states is a very serious offense, usually requiring
mandatory jail time, can't imagine Tennessee is too lenient.  
 
As Gators, we have had our share of criminal behaviour over the last few
years, and for the most part we have given kids a second or even third
chance.  It is up to them what they do with these chances and unfortunately
most of them have squandered the opportunity to reform (Moss, Hornsby,
Wilson, Atkins).  All of these guys were suspended from the team - and for
the most part we didn't know how long or why they were suspended - and it
was up to them to work their way back into the good graces of the coaches.
 
I will wait to see how UT ultimately deals with these 4 students before
rushing to judgement.
 
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: Woody [mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:40 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Tenn robbers still not off the team?


Yet... Urban was attacked for only suspending Spikes for half a game.   

I havent heard much criticism from the talkin heads toward Kiffin taking his
time.

Woody


On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:24 AM,  wrote:



I understand that Tenn is busy preparing for a game today
 
I understand that you want to wait for all the facts to come in
 
But hasn't Tenn had enough time and enough facts to distance themselves from
these three robbers (and/or accomplice)?
 
Haven't they had enough time and facts to get them out of their dorms and
issue a public statement that they are no longer with the team?
 
Seems like the longer Tenn lets this drag out - the more negative publicity
they receive
 
Seems like the way to quickly turn a negative into a positive is to just
throw all 3 off the team - then you go from being Thug U to a model of how
things should be run.  
 
Funny how early in the season Tenn had no problem with kids leaving the
team.  Wasn't it like 12 kids either left or were kicked off the team?  
 
Now Tenn is hanging onto these three robbers (or at least accomplice)?
 
Keith
 


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RE: [gatortalk] Tenn robbers still not off the team?

[Ken Kirkley]

Yes, rushing to judgement before you know how UT is handling the situation.
That is my point, not that they are innocent, not that they don't deserve
punishment, they do.  But we should wait to praise or criticize once we see
how it is handled.
 
When Ronnie Wilson fired an assault weapon in the air, there were many
saying he should be kicked off immediately.  When Brandon Spikes was gently
wiping the dirt off of that Dawgs face, many were calling for his dismissal.
Let it play out and then see if criticism is warranted. 
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: ke...@baldwinnc.com [mailto:ke...@baldwinnc.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:01 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Tenn robbers still not off the team?


Rushing to judgement ?!?!
 
The one guy was failed two drug tests, they are out robbing people - at gun
point - at 2AM while wearing Tenn football player clothing, caught with
drugs, the gun, the hooded sweatshirts, and positively identified.  
 
That is rushing to judgement ?!?!
 
 
 

 Original Message 
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Tenn robbers still not off the team?
From: "Ken Kirkley" 
Date: Sat, November 14, 2009 11:27 am
To: 


I don't think we should be throwing stones at UT over this.  They have
suspended the players for this game, so let's not rush to judgement as to
the final penalty.
 
I hate Kiffy as much as the next Gator, but this is about 4 young adults who
have made a terrible mistake and might have thrown their lives away.  Armed
robbery in most states is a very serious offense, usually requiring
mandatory jail time, can't imagine Tennessee is too lenient.  
 
As Gators, we have had our share of criminal behaviour over the last few
years, and for the most part we have given kids a second or even third
chance.  It is up to them what they do with these chances and unfortunately
most of them have squandered the opportunity to reform (Moss, Hornsby,
Wilson, Atkins).  All of these guys were suspended from the team - and for
the most part we didn't know how long or why they were suspended - and it
was up to them to work their way back into the good graces of the coaches.
 
I will wait to see how UT ultimately deals with these 4 students before
rushing to judgement.
 
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: Woody [mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:40 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Tenn robbers still not off the team?


Yet... Urban was attacked for only suspending Spikes for half a game.   

I havent heard much criticism from the talkin heads toward Kiffin taking his
time.

Woody


On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:24 AM,  wrote:



I understand that Tenn is busy preparing for a game today
 
I understand that you want to wait for all the facts to come in
 
But hasn't Tenn had enough time and enough facts to distance themselves from
these three robbers (and/or accomplice)?
 
Haven't they had enough time and facts to get them out of their dorms and
issue a public statement that they are no longer with the team?
 
Seems like the longer Tenn lets this drag out - the more negative publicity
they receive
 
Seems like the way to quickly turn a negative into a positive is to just
throw all 3 off the team - then you go from being Thug U to a model of how
things should be run.  
 
Funny how early in the season Tenn had no problem with kids leaving the
team.  Wasn't it like 12 kids either left or were kicked off the team?  
 
Now Tenn is hanging onto these three robbers (or at least accomplice)?
 
Keith
 




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RE: [gatortalk] Alabammy

[Ken Kirkley]

One of the things to keep in mind is that we went through a stretch of games
where we uncharacteristically turned the ball over again and again.

Playing Keith's patented woulda shoulda game...

Eliminate two pick sixes from the Miss St game and the score is 29 - 6
Eliminate a fumble against UT and it is 31-6
Eliminate 3 first half fumbles against Arkansas and we win going away

My point is the team was playing tight - they are less so now, the play
calling was predictable - it is getting slightly better.  We have stopped
shooting ourselves in the foot and have two games and an off week to get
ready for Bama.  Bama is good, but not unbeatable.  Ingrahm is good, but was
held to 70 yards last night until a late 4thQ 77 yard TD run.  We beat Bama
last year without Percy and will do so again this year.


Ken K
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: Cecilia [mailto:gator...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:42 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy

One of my first thoughts as I was waking up this morning was:

Gators 29,  Miss St 19
Bama 31, Miss St 3   They scored more and won with a wider 
margin.

I had to get up and look up the scores with our common opponents:

Gators 23, Vols 13Higher score for us, wider margin
Bama 12, Vols 10

Gators 41, UK 7Higher score for us, wider margin
Bama 38, UK 20

Gators 13, LSU 3   Not as much offense for us but a 
wider margin (so more defense?)
Bama 24, LSU 15

Gators 23, Arky 20Hmmm...
Bama 35, Arky 7

Gators 24, USCar 14Higher score for us, narrower margin
Bama 20, USCar 6

Did gathering of this information make me feel better about meeting Bama in
Atlanta in December?  No, not really.

Cee

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From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy


I wonder how those stats would look if they were compiled versus common 
opponents, teams we have both played.

Looking at "big play" production on offense, it would appear that Alabama 
did better tonight versus Mississippi State than we did against them.  Or 
maybe I am justed spooked by my fears of Julio Jones and Mark Ingraham 
running through our secondary.


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

--Original Message--
From: oli...@bobparks.com
To: Gator Talk
ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Alabammy
Sent: Nov 14, 2009 7:18 PM

Did you see the graphic, UF vs Ala?
We score more, get more total yards  and give up less yards and points than 
them. Yet, they have the more complete team?
I know, we've got to get past FIU and the semis first. Heh heh heh.
So, anyway, about Alabama...
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RE: [gatortalk] Alabammy

[Ken Kirkley]

They moved the ball on two drives in the first half when they scored their
TDs, other than that, not so much.
 
On 12 drives they averaged 3.6 yards per play.  Take out the 2 scoring
drives and the averaged 1.5 yards per play on the remaining 10 drives.
 
In the second half, the average 1 yard per play.  I'm not sure Bama can take
too much from that, except to hope that we miss numerous tackles like we
did.  Also, I think Garcia is a much better QB than McElroy.
 
One additional thought, we blitzed more last night than I have ever seen, it
was fun to watch.  On their two scoring drives we brought the corner blitz
several times and Garcia checked down to the open man each time.  I don't
think we ran that blitz in the 2nd half at all.
 
Now, on to Florida International.  I'm really worried about this game...
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: ken...@earthlink.net [mailto:ken...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:37 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fw: [gatortalk] Alabammy


One other point: I haven't seen any stats, but it seemed that Spurrier's
offense was effective at moving the ball against us at times (when Garcia
wasn't being crushed by our blitzers).

I hope this doesn't give Alabama any clues as to how to scheme against us. I
hope we can come up with some defensive looks that Alabama will not have
seen from us.

Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)


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From: ken...@earthlink.net 
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:46:22 +
To: 
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy

That could explain some, I suppose, but teams look at all game tape, not
just how we beat an opponent.

I just wish people would stop talking about the Gators being 19 - 0, now 20
- 0. This team is 10 - 0. Those other wins belong to the 2008 team.

I want our guys to play loose, and have fun, not like they are trying to
preserve or maintain something, or be perfect, or play up to the
expectations of others.

A few weeks ago, although I certainly didn't want us to lose a game, I was
thinking that dropping one might actually be liberating for the team, and
give them some motivation (as did the loss to 'Ole Miss last year). It could
also have helped with the fans' expectations, and we might not have been so
critical after close wins.

Anyway, it's way too late for that now. We have three games in front of us,
and if we win out, we are the SEC Champions and are playing for the National
Championship.


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)



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From: Woody  
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:38:03 -0500
To: 
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Alabammy

Some of the big ones... Tennessee, LSU and Miss St... dont forget we played
first... so we could have easily exposed to Bama how to handle them. 



On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:14 AM,  wrote:


I wonder how those stats would look if they were compiled versus common
opponents, teams we have both played.

Looking at "big play" production on offense, it would appear that Alabama
did better tonight versus Mississippi State than we did against them.  Or
maybe I am justed spooked by my fears of Julio Jones and Mark Ingraham
running through our secondary.


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

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From: oli...@bobparks.com
To: Gator Talk
ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Alabammy
Sent: Nov 14, 2009 7:18 PM

Did you see the graphic, UF vs Ala?
We score more, get more total yards  and give up less yards and points than
them. Yet, they have the more complete team?
I know, we've got to get past FIU and the semis first. Heh heh heh.
So, anyway, about Alabama...
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[gatortalk] UT kicks off 2 of the frito banditos

[Ken Kirkley]

  Monday, November 16, 2009
Richardson, Edwards kicked off Vols

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ESPN.com news services

Freshman Tennessee 
football players Nu'Keese
 Richardson
and Mike Edwards, who last week were charged with attempted armed robbery,
have been dismissed from the football team, coach Lane Kiffin announced
Monday. 


SEC blog


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Chris Low writes about all things SEC in his conference blog
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. Blog network:  
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Freshman safety Janzen Jackson, who also stands charged in the case, will
continue to be barred from team activities while Kiffin awaits additional
information. 

"After extensive and thorough research of the situation over the last four
days and considering various disciplinary options, I've decided it's in the
best interest of our program to remove Nu'Keese and Mike," Kiffin said in a
statement. "As I've said many times before, we hold our student-athletes to
an extremely high standard on and off the field. Our student-athletes must
be responsible members of society, and this type of conduct will not be
tolerated." 

The three 18-year-olds are accused of demanding money from three people at a
gas station near Tennessee's campus early Thursday morning. They were
arrested shortly after the incident but have all been released from jail. 

"We want a positive culture for our student-athletes that allows them to
succeed in the classroom, on the field, and in life after college," Kiffin
said in his statement. "My hope is that these two young men will learn from
their terrible decision. Clearly, their actions have no place in our
program."


 
Ken K
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RE: [gatortalk] UT kicks off 2 of the frito banditos

[Ken Kirkley]

Is that announcement imminent?
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: Jay Cicone [mailto:jay.cic...@raymondjames.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:51 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] UT kicks off 2 of the frito banditos



And he could start right away here---FSU is changing to a junior college in
2010.

 

 

From: Wanda Barry [mailto:g8...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:35 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] UT kicks off 2 of the frito banditos

 

Now Nu'Keese can go back home like he's been wanting to do and go play for
the Criminoles!!  He'd fit right in :-)

Wanda

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RE: [gatortalk] CBS analyst - number of plays

[Ken Kirkley]

South Carolina ran 66 plays overall, 37 in the first half when Gary
Danielson was saying they had us right where they wanted us.  In the second
half, they ran 29 plays for a total of 30 yards, in the fourth quarter they
ran 11 plays for a -20 yards.
 
Yes, our defense does appear to get stronger throughout the game...
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: Woody [mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:19 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] CBS analyst - number of plays


I thought the purpose of it was to play the time of possession game.. keep
the UF offense off the field.  
 


 
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Steve McKibben 
wrote:


I think the number of plays was supposed to be significant not only because
it meant our defense was on the field (getting tired?) but that also meant
more chances for USCe to score, and fewer plays for our offense to score. Of
course if we had more 3 and done posses ions like our first one, that
statistic would be beyond moot.

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com  wrote:





The CBS analyst kept talking about South Carolina running a number of plays
- the higher the number of plays the more likely they were to win. 
 
I kept disagreeing.  
 
Granted if the CBS analyst meant that - SC kept moving the ball down the
field the whole game - ok - I agree - but why didn't he say that - and that
is too obvious - so I don't think he meant that.  
 
My point was - the way that we rotate defensive players - and the depth that
we have - we look as strong and fast in the 4th quarter as we do in the
first quarter - if not stronger and faster.  
 
Whereas most opposing offenses tend to wear down during the game - our
defense usually gets stronger.  So more plays would not help them.  
 
 



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RE: [gatortalk] Over/Under for season defense Standings

[Ken Kirkley]

I just hope Oliver isn't right - of he is we probably lose one.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 


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From: ken...@earthlink.net [mailto:ken...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:28 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Over/Under for season defense Standings


I am rooting for Keith to win this contest.

It does include SEC Championship Game and the bowl game, right?


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)


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From: Jerry Belloit  
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:08:32 -0500
To: 
Subject: [gatortalk] Over/Under for season defense Standings


So far the Gator defense has allowed 105 points.

 

The point estimates are:

 

Jerry Belloit100

Keith Baldwin120

Stacey Hartley-McBride138

Leon Polhill 142

Mary Weigly   145

Steve McKibben   152

Badrish 165

Oliver Barry167

 

Enjoy,

 

Jerry

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RE: [gatortalk] CBS analyst - number of plays

[Ken Kirkley]

They were moving, I still had confidence that they would at most get a field
goal to tie the game.  But that is also the point of this, our defense steps
up late in games and makes plays.  The INT was on a 3rd down, it was well
covered and despite what the announcers said, was well thrown. 
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: ken...@earthlink.net [mailto:ken...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:38 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] CBS analyst - number of plays


Wasn't Carolina moving the ball and threatening to score when Justin
intercepted that ball? I remember having a sinking feeling in my gut, hoping
for a pick.


Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)




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From: "Ken Kirkley"  
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:22:22 -0600
To: 
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] CBS analyst - number of plays

South Carolina ran 66 plays overall, 37 in the first half when Gary
Danielson was saying they had us right where they wanted us.  In the second
half, they ran 29 plays for a total of 30 yards, in the fourth quarter they
ran 11 plays for a -20 yards.
 
Yes, our defense does appear to get stronger throughout the game...
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

  _  

From: Woody [mailto:gatorrr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:19 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] CBS analyst - number of plays


I thought the purpose of it was to play the time of possession game.. keep
the UF offense off the field.  
 


 
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Steve McKibben 
wrote:


I think the number of plays was supposed to be significant not only because
it meant our defense was on the field (getting tired?) but that also meant
more chances for USCe to score, and fewer plays for our offense to score. Of
course if we had more 3 and done posses ions like our first one, that
statistic would be beyond moot.

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com  wrote:





The CBS analyst kept talking about South Carolina running a number of plays
- the higher the number of plays the more likely they were to win. 
 
I kept disagreeing.  
 
Granted if the CBS analyst meant that - SC kept moving the ball down the
field the whole game - ok - I agree - but why didn't he say that - and that
is too obvious - so I don't think he meant that.  
 
My point was - the way that we rotate defensive players - and the depth that
we have - we look as strong and fast in the 4th quarter as we do in the
first quarter - if not stronger and faster.  
 
Whereas most opposing offenses tend to wear down during the game - our
defense usually gets stronger.  So more plays would not help them.  
 
 



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RE: [gatortalk] Kiffen takes yet another swipe at us

[Ken Kirkley]

So how much will he be fined by the conference? This is clearly a swipe at
an opposing coach and a punishment that was approved by the league office.
I say 10 games and $100,000.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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From: ke...@baldwinnc.com [mailto:ke...@baldwinnc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:09 PM
To: gatortalk googlegroups
Subject: [gatortalk] Kiffen takes yet another swipe at us


College Game Day Live (or whatever) just played a news conference of Lame
Kiffen where Kiffen makes a comment something like - other schools only
suspend players for half a game - but we threw them off the team.  
 
Trying to compare Spikes fighting back versus Tenn players robbing people at
gun point.  
 
What a %#^$% %...@#  %$&((*$^  %#$^%&%   #...@$%#!
 

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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Q&A with UF forward Chandler Parsons [FitzGerald]

[Ken Kirkley]

Do you think Chandler might see some tater tots in opposing arenas this
year?
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

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Q&A with UF forward Chandler Parsons



Q: What's the last dream you had that you can remember?

A: Oh man. I wish Adam (Allen) was here to hear this. I meant to tell him
earlier, because I just had this dream last night. It was the weirdest
dream, but it's hilarious. So last night, I'm sleeping, and I remember that
I was at an outdoor court with coach (Larry)Shyatt . He tied my left hand
behind my back and I was outside the 3-point line and he kept having me
shoot tater tots through the hoop. Every time I missed, he'd just fire them
back at me, but I didn't have my left hand, so I couldn't swat them away. My
little cousin was in it and my girlfriend was in it. I kept getting tater
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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Gatornews from Today's Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post courtesy of JunoGator

[Ken Kirkley]

This ought to really help Houston Nutt's recruiting efforts..  


 "We cannot even appear to support those outside our community who advocate
a revival of segregation," Jones wrote to the Ole Miss student body.
"Consequently, I have asked the band not to play 'From Dixie with Love' at
upcoming athletics events. The absence of this song will send a clear
message that the university is neither facilitating nor indirectly condoning
the chant."

In response, the Klan plans to rally in full robes. Barbara Lago, director
of PR at Ole Miss, confirmed to the Reveille that Ole Miss has been
contacted by the KKK and that the group has the right to a peaceful protest.
 

  

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Urban on ND

[Ken Kirkley]

I think Charlie gets a job this year.  There are going to be quite a few
attractive jobs opening up where he could be successful.
 
I am thinking Virginia, Maryland or even Notre Dame...
 
And no, Kerwin will not be Charlie's OC - he is a head coach now, why would
he step down?
 
Ken K
MNGator
 
 

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From: Jay Cicone [mailto:jay.cic...@raymondjames.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:18 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Urban on ND



I bet he would give Kerwin Bell a job there.

 

From: Steve McKibben [mailto:augiega...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:17 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Urban on ND

 


I think you may be right...

--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Woody  wrote:

I think Charlie is holdin out for the UCF gig.


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Steve McKibben 
wrote:


He's not - this year... 



--- On Mon, 11/23/09, ke...@baldwinnc.com  wrote:

I don't want to hear that Charlie Strong is going anywhere either.  

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RE: [gatortalk] Urban and ND

[Ken Kirkley]

Urban to ND is imminent.
 
Ken K
MNGator
 

  _  

From: Charlie [mailto:ces1...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:53 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Urban and ND


You the thing is no matter how many times he says no the speculation won't
stop until ND either hires a new coach or keeps the one they have. I was
listening to epsn radio this afternoon and they were dissecting what his
latest no really meant.

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RE: [gatortalk] Somebody didn't listen to Brandon Spikes ...

[Ken Kirkley]

Yep.  Can't imagine the thought process.  You are out drinking - probably
not alone - your buddies let you get in the car drunk, you make the decision
to drive drunk.  No excuses, Mr. Trattou here is your starting job.

 

Ken K.

MNGator

 

  _  

From: Steve McKibben [mailto:augiega...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:07 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Somebody didn't listen to Brandon Spikes ...

 


Beyond stupid.

You'd better start working on your combine numbers Carlos - you just ended
your Gator career. Thanks for the great plays you made. I hope this serves
as a wake up call and you don't make this kind of stupid mistake ever again.
Thank your lucky stars that your incredibly poor decision didn't result in
serious injury or death to someone else, or to yourself.

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RE: [gatortalk] Strong to Louisville

[Ken Kirkley]

McCarney will be the replacement.  We are in able hands and won't miss a
beat - other than not having an all-American DE playing.

 

Have we gone a single week this year without some distraction?  Between not
scoring enough, Lame Kitten, concussion, turnovers, not scoring enough,
notre dame job, DWI.

 

Is it Saturday yet?

 

  _  

From: Badrish [mailto:dbadr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:47 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Strong to Louisville

 

The Zooker?

Just Kidding!!!

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Gatorr  wrote:

I think he will. He knows he has goals and an obligation to fulllfill. If
its true... Who replaces him?

Woody (via iPhone)


On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Jerry Belloit  wrote:

I sure hope he coaches in the remaining games this year but I would
understand if he needed to leave to start recruiting.

 

jerry

 

From: ke...@baldwinnc.com [mailto:ke...@baldwinnc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:15 AM
To:   gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Strong to Louisville

 

NO

 

THEY CAN"T HAVE HIM.  HE'S OURS !!! 

 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Strong to Louisville
From: Gatorr 
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009 11:33 pm
To:   gatortalk@googlegroups.com

According to Channel 6 news here in Orlando

Woody (via iPhone)

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RE: [gatortalk] Strong to Louisville

[Ken Kirkley]

No way.  He is gone for at least the SECC.  If he can get his issues
resolved soon, he may be back for MNC. I wouldn't bet on it.

 

I for one will be very disappointed if he is allowed to play this week.  He
made a stupid decision that could have been fatal to him or someone else. 

 

It doesn't matter if the car was running or in gear, if he was in the
drivers seat and had the keys, that is enough for DUI.  Refusing a BAT
almost admits guilt.

 

  _  

From: Jay Cicone [mailto:jay.cic...@raymondjames.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:54 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Strong to Louisville

 

Dunlap will finish out the year for us. He can't be punished until we get a
verdict in the jury trial that he has requested. Right now he's completely
innocent.

 

From: Ken Kirkley [mailto:k...@kirkley.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:51 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Strong to Louisville

 

McCarney will be the replacement.  We are in able hands and won't miss a
beat - other than not having an all-American DE playing.

 

Have we gone a single week this year without some distraction?  Between not
scoring enough, Lame Kitten, concussion, turnovers, not scoring enough,
notre dame job, DWI.

 

Is it Saturday yet?

 

  _  

From: Badrish [mailto:dbadr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:47 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Strong to Louisville

 

The Zooker?

Just Kidding!!!

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Gatorr  wrote:

I think he will. He knows he has goals and an obligation to fulllfill. If
its true... Who replaces him?

Woody (via iPhone)


On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Jerry Belloit  wrote:

I sure hope he coaches in the remaining games this year but I would
understand if he needed to leave to start recruiting.

 

jerry

 

From: ke...@baldwinnc.com [mailto:ke...@baldwinnc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:15 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Strong to Louisville

 

NO

 

THEY CAN"T HAVE HIM.  HE'S OURS !!! 

 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Strong to Louisville
From: Gatorr 
Date: Mon, November 30, 2009 11:33 pm
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

According to Channel 6 news here in Orlando

Woody (via iPhone)

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RE: [gatortalk] SEC Championship Game...

[Ken Kirkley]

This is funny.  We are in their heads for sure!

 

We have a game where we count how many times Tebow says blessed, bless or
blessing.  Every time he is talking on camera, numerous variations come out.

 

And as for his suggestion to drink upon seeing a Gator fan in jorts, how
about drinking every time you see a bammer with toilet paper and laundry
detergent on his head?  Unfortunately, they think that is the intended use
of those products.

 

Ken K.

MNGator

 

  _  

From: Jay Cicone [mailto:jay.cic...@raymondjames.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:30 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] SEC Championship Game...

 

 

The SEC College Football Season comes to a climax this weekend in the
Florida v Alabama championship game in Atlanta. The son of Chuck Norris, Tim
Tebow will face an Alabama team aching for revenge after last year's  SEC
championship loss to the same unholy lord of college football. Face it
folks, even though Tebow spends his free time preaching to the incarcerated,
curing cancer (we assume), trimming the foreskin of the impoverished, and
keeping the planets properly aligned by toting the earth around the sun to
keep  it in its proper orbit; on the field he's not nearly so generous. On
the field  he dominates. 

 

In honor of Tebow's sheer awesomeness, we give you  the "Tebow SEC
Championship Drinking Game"! 

* Drink every time Tebow is called "a warrior." Bonus chug if any of your
friends sing the first two hours lines of Scandal's opus "I am a warrior"
and change the lyrics to "Tebow is..." Dance, Tebow, you magnificent
bastard. 

 

* Drink every time Tebow's called "a leader," then salute. 

 

* Drink every time Tebow's called a "special athlete," then yell
"Tay!" 

 

* Finish your drink if the announcers suggest Tebow should win the Heisman
again this year. 

 

* Drink every time Tebow points to the sky. Then realize the only reason the
sky hasn't fallen is the strength of his pointing. 

 

* Drink every time Tebow references God. 

 

* Drink every time he's shown on the sidelines flapping his arms like a bird
(or an idiot) to pump up the crowd. 

 

* If (when) Tebow actually takes flight, finish your drink and do a shot. 

 

* Drink every time Tebow's on camera for no reason when  the Florida defense
is on the field. 

 

* Drink every time Tebow is seen screaming with his helmet off. 

 

* Drink every time they show a "I Heart Tebow" sign in the stands. 

 

* Drink every time you see a Florida fan in jorts. (Small sips on this one.
Otherwise it could kill you). 

 

* Shot every time they mention his experience as missionary. 

 

* If they mention him performing circumcisions in the Philippines while he
was a missionary - Chug your beer, do a shot of  Patron. 

 

*When Alabama wins and Tebow gives a tearful speech in the post-game press
conference, give the television the bird, turn up your  bottle of Jim Beam,
and don't stop drinking OR flipping off the TV till Tebow runs out of tears.
(This may take several bottles of Jim) Then throw the empty bottle(s)
through the television and quote the good book by saying "the Terrence Cody
falls upon the just and the unjust alike!" Club a baby seal and start
prepping for Texas. 

 

(Disclaimer: Playing the Tebow drinking game may well result in death. So
don't do it. Ever. Not even in jest. The content above this disclaimer is a
joke, not a suggestion. If you're dumb enough to do it, just  pray Tebow is
nearby. Only he can save you. Him or a local hospital with a  stomach pump.)

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RE: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized by the SEC

[Ken Kirkley]

Someone needs to tell Lacey that the 1950's just called and wants its hair
back.

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:48 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Recruiter at Tennessee Scrutinized
by the SEC

 

 

On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Helen Huntley wrote:





I loved that Andy Staples took a photo of the two women in action and didn't
realize until later that he'd caught them in the act of violating the rules.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/andy_staples/12/11/tennessee-r
ecruiting/

 

Lacey Pearl Earps, now that's a name!

 

-Zeb

 

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RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Pal m Beach Post (none today) courtesy of JunoGator

[Ken Kirkley]

That’s write Randy, you set him strait!  I mean what a looser, criticizing
grammar…:-)

 

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Platt
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 4:55 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Pal
m Beach Post (none today) courtesy of JunoGator

 

I couldn't help but ask……

 

arrangent = arrangement?

 

People who live in glass houses have to dress in the basement.

 

 

Randy Platt

aka "PCGator"

aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

aka "The Other Randy"

 

Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 2:35 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from Miami Herald and Pal
m Beach Post (none today) courtesy of JunoGator

 

In a slightly related subject, I attended the visitation at a funeral home
for a precious lady friend of ours yesterday and was appalled to see this
ribbon attached to the huge and obviously very expensive flower arrangent
lying on the casket for the 700+ visitors to see...

"Cherised Mother"

Only in Tennessee...

Randy Lyons
Sent from my Sprint Palm Prē

 

  _  

Steve McKibben wrote:


I realize that I'm probably being pedantic here, but is anyone else annoyed
that these kinds of errors get past the writer, his editor, and everyone
else that sees this prior to publication?

 Considering UF's strick policy regarding students who are arrested for DUI,
it seems a little odd that Dunlap is being allowed to play. 

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[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars

[Ken Kirkley]

Why do people go looking for stories like this?  It is really meaningless
without comparative data from  a>other schools; b> other groups of students
at UF or c> any other scientific measurement.  Rather, they compare it to
college aged males in the country (not drivers, all males), to all males in
Alachua County between 18 and 24, and to an estimate by UPD on the average
number of citations the average UF student receives.  Heck, I received 3
tickets in Gainesville, so I was 3 times more likely than the average
student I guess.

 

This is just ridiculous and is a pathetic attempt by a local paper to try
and make a name for themselves by bringing down the big guy.  What I really
want to know is what is the average number of tickets by Sentinel
sportswriters?  Or better yet, what is the average number of free meals they
eat at UF's expense so they can provide us with this compelling coverage?

 

Ken

MNGator

 

Happy Holidays!

 

 

  _  

From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Badrish
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:41 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field
and in their cars

 


Sentinel exclusive: Florida Gators fast on the field and in their cars


12 different Gators have 7 or more tickets; 251 citations team-wide


By Jeremy Fowler, ORLANDO SENTINEL 

December 22, 2009

 

GAINESVILLE - Before a loss to Alabama on Dec. 5, the Florida Gators
  were racing to a national title.

Literally.

Florida has had well-publicized arrests in recent months stemming from
traffic charges - including Carlos Dunlap's DUI charge on Dec. 1 -- but
those incidents comprise a small fraction of a team-wide 251 traffic
citations in Alachua County, according to Orlando Sentinel research.

These charges range from speeding tickets to numerous cases of driving with
a suspended or revoked license, typically a second-degree misdemeanor or,
for repeat offenders, a felony.

The data was compiled in late November and early December through Alachua
County court records, accounting for 96 Gators who either entered fall camp
on scholarship or served in the "game participation" portion of this
season's boxscores. Charges stem from 2006-09 for football players who
usually drive cars or motorized scooters around campus or in Gainesville.

Depending on the source, some in the legal world consider any traffic
misdemeanor or felony charge a technical arrest. The Gators have 21 such
charges, mostly from getting caught with a suspended license. Most charges
don't result in jail booking.

Thirty-two of the team's citations were listed as "open" or "undisposed" in
the Alachua County system at the time of this search, meaning they are
either unpaid or unresolved.

Many Gators obey the laws of the road. Thirty-two players - yes, including
Tim Tebow
  - never have received a documented traffic ticket in Alachua County.
Eleven of the 32 are from the 2009 signing class and have been on campus
less than a year.

But 12 different Gators have seven or more tickets, including team leader
Jermaine Cunningham, an All-Southeastern Conference defensive end who has
almost as many career tickets (14) as sacks (18).

The list includes cornerback Markihe Anderson (11), offensive lineman Marcus
Gilbert (11), offensive lineman Corey Hobbs (11), safety Dorian Munroe (11),
defensive back Miguel Carodine (11), linebacker Dustin Doe (9), offensive
lineman Maurkice Pouncey (7), All-American linebacker Brandon Spikes (7) and
three starting defensive linemen -- Lawrence Marsh (7), Terron Sanders (7)
and Jaye Howard (7).

Two players, Carodine and freshman quarterback Jordan Reed, have received a
criminal charge for driving while never owning a license.

Dunlap, who fell asleep at the wheel at a Gainesville intersection four days
before the Southeastern Conference Championship Game, has the only DUI
charge among the Gators.

The cases of Cunningham, who avoided arrest, and Doe, who was arrested in
July for driving excessively with a suspended license, resemble a common
tale State Attorney Bill Cervone knows too well.

Someone accumulates too many tickets, possibly doesn't pay them and
eventually gets assessed an "unknowingly" driving with a suspended license
charge. That charge classifies as a routine criminal or civil traffic
citation - pay and go on your way - but the second time around would elevate
to a "knowingly" driving without a valid license.

Cunningham caught the suspended license charge in Jan. 28, 2008, and the
case has been resolved along with all his previous citations. Doe has only
nine total tickets, but four of them are criminal charges and three are
still classified as "open" until he fulfills stipulations such as community
service stemming from his summer arrest

RE: [gatortalk] Merry Christmas Gators!

[Ken Kirkley]

Merry Christmas from Snowy Minnesota!  No need to wish for a white Christmas
here.

 

Ken

MNGator

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jerry Belloit
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 6:37 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Merry Christmas Gators!

 

To all of my family and friends in the GatorNation, I pray that Santa was
good to all of you this morning.  My Christmas wish for you all is that you
have a wonderful and blessed day!

 

With my children grown, there is not the same excitement in my home than
when my children were younger.  Someday I will have grand children and the
excitement will return.

 

Jerry

 

 

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RE: [gatortalk] why is Gruden not being mentioned?

[Ken Kirkley]

I heard we are going after Kiffen, he knows how to get us back on the map...

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:12 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] why is Gruden not being mentioned?

I thought the state of Fla had had enough of Gruden? lol


On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 8:04 PM,   wrote:
> I see a lot of names already -
>
> why is Gruden not being mentioned?
>
>
>
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> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions |
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

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RE: [gatortalk] why is Gruden not being mentioned?

[Ken Kirkley]

If I had my pick it would be Dungy, but probably won't be.  

There are lots of good candidates and all have pluses and minuses
Mullen - short time as a head coach, but knows the Urban way
Strong - Not proven, but a loyal Gator
Spurrier - Would be a good homecoming and provide us 3-4 transitional years
Peterson - wins with inferior talent, does he have the Florida connections
needed for recruiting?

The question is do we need a proven head coach, or are we willing to take on
an accomplished assistant - think Texas D coordinator or Gus Malzahn at
Auburn.  What BCS school coach do you want?  I can't think of many that wow
me. Schiano at Rutgers?  Edsell at UConn?  Butch Davis?

This won't be an easy hire, but I have confidence we will do well and the
program will survive and thrive.

In all kinds of weather, Go Gators!

Ken
MNGator

P.S. This is Boxing Day and I feel like I've been punched in the gut...


-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:25 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] why is Gruden not being mentioned?

Chip Kelly I think?  He's not goin anywhere... its his first year there.



On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Wanda Barry  wrote:
> Who's Oregon's coach???
>
> - Original Message -
> From: oli...@bobparks.com
> To: Gator Talk
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] why is Gruden not being mentioned?
> I think Gruden will be. He'd be a good choice.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> 
> From: 
> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:04:44 -0700
> To: gatortalk googlegroups
> Subject: [gatortalk] why is Gruden not being mentioned?
> I see a lot of names already -
>
> why is Gruden not being mentioned?
>
>
>
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RE: [gatortalk] News?

[Ken Kirkley]

I'm no Pollyanna, but I want to know what you were expecting for next year
and how do you think that changes now?

At this point, we don't know who the recruits are, we don't know which
juniors leave early and we don't know who will actually be coaching.  It is
way too early to begin writing off the 2010 season.

In my opinion, 2010 will surprise a lot of people.  While our schedule is
more difficult, our talent is still above most.  At this early stage here is
how I see it breaking down:

Sure wins (5): Miami (OH), Kentucky, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt,
Appalachian State

Probable wins (4): USF, Tennessee, South Carolina, SOW

Tough games (2): LSU, Georgia

Probable loss (1): Alabama

So if the sky is falls and the program is in disarray, we are looking at
8-4, more likely scenario is 9-3 or 10-2.

If we hold the recruiting class together, the number of juniors going pro is
limited to Haden, Dunlap, Hernandez and one or both of the Pouncey's, and
the coaching situation is stabilized (either way) I think you can add USF,
Tennessee, USC and SOW into the wins and Georgia into a probable win.

Coach Meyer has built a winning program at UF.  It will continue to thrive
with or without him at the helm.  Adazzio is a very experienced coach who
had some growing pains this year as the head signal caller.  I expect him to
have more confidence and accept greater input from others on the staff this
year so we will see better play calling.

You also have to add in the intangible factor of motivation.  The
underclassmen have been hearing all year - wait till next year when Tebow is
gone.  This off season, you can bet they will be motivated to let everyone
know, the foot is not off the gas pedal.  It is a very important year in the
Gator program, we need to beat UT, LSU, UGA and SOW to let them know that
while Tebow is gone, the Gators are continuing to rise.

Ken K.
MNGator
-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatorr
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:20 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] News?


Um hmm. Better get ur sleep now cuz '10 is gonna be a long long long  
long year.


Woody (via iPhone)

On Dec 27, 2009, at 11:09 PM, "Tom Clarke"   
wrote:

> If Meyer would or can restrict himself to use the leave time  
> properly to work on the health issues with his doctor then his wife  
> will have him at home much more. The question then is how long will  
> it last? And can he learn to force himself to delegate some duties  
> enough to avoid the same cycle again when he does return to 'active  
> duty'. For now Gator Nation can sleep much better!!
>
> Tom C (gatortc)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com]  
> On Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 8:59 PM
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] News?
>
> If Meyer seemed beaten down at the press conference, it might have  
> had something to do with Shelly.  I am sure she had her heart set on  
> having him home.
>
> She might have kicked his butt when he told her he had reconsidered.
>
>
> Go Gators
>
> Ken B. (NYC Gator)
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Woody 
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:19:13
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] News?
>
> I think your right.  Ive said it many times here... Meyer does not
> have a poker face.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Dr. Caffeine  > wrote:
>> I don't know. But I think he is gone. His resignation may have too  
>> much
>> negative impact. So they worked out a temporary solution. If they  
>> can't
>> figure out that chest pain during the past few years, they won't be  
>> able to
>> do that in the next few years too.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:28 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Whew. Basically, a sabbatical.
>>>
>>> Let's hope he can get any physical issues taken care of. There is  
>>> one
>>> thing worse than him walking out. It would be him being carried out.
>>>
>>> Go Gators
>>>
>>> Ken B. (NYC Gator)
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: "Gatornet Admin" 
>>> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:15:13 -0500
>>> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] News?
>>> Its official. He's taking an indefinite leave of absence, but said  
>>> in his
>>> gut, he feels he'll be back in time for the 2010 season.
>>>
>>> Good news!
>>>
>>> Randy Lyons
>>> Sent from my Sprint Palm Prē
>>> 
>>> ken...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Go Gators
>>>
>>> Ken B. (NYC Gator)
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "Gatornet Admin" 
>>> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:46:03
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: RE: [gatortalk] News?
>>>
>>> News conference postponed until 5:00
>>>
>>> Randy
>

RE: [gatortalk] Interesting parallel

[Ken Kirkley]

I think that when the announcement was made there were a lot of emotions
tearing people apart.  Regardless (or is it irregardless?)  :-)  once the
dust settled with or without Meyer, I think we would have been fine.  Would
Rainey and Black really leave early to not be drafted?  Would all the
potential recruits leave just because Meyer is gone?  Some would, but the
core would stay intact.

 

The interesting thing about this years recruiting class is that we have a
very stocked team right now.  These new recruits are to reload, not rebuild.
So even if we miss on a few, it won't be all damaging and put us behind
others in the state as some would like you to believe.  The biggest downside
to this years class is the numbers, we can sign the full 25 this year and
with some attrition, we might sign fewer or take risks on lower rated
prospects.  My belief is in the end, we will end up with a top 5 class and
all will be well.

 

Ken 
MNGator

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:14 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Interesting parallel

 

Its worse that that.  

 

Rumor is - when Meyer announced his retirement - a lot of the juniors were
much more likely to leave and a lot of the recruits were less likely to
arrive.  

 

Would have been a HUGE drop off in talent.  

 

>From what I hear - both juniors and recruits are mostly back on board.

 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Interesting parallel
From: Scott Lucas 
Date: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:58 am
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

Has anyone wondered if Meyer leaving and then returning for the "family" and
to "finish a job" is an object lesson for all the juniors thinking of
leaving?

 

H?

 

 

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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Meyer veteran of UF-Florida State rivalry (Aschoff)

[Ken Kirkley]

Based on this quote, I don't think you have to worry about the team...

 

Sophomore cornerback Joe Haden said he realized preparation for this game
was a bit different when he noticed the game plan packet the team received
at the beginning of the week was much thicker than the others this year.

"The scouting report is like they've been looking at (the FSU game) the
whole season," Haden said.

 

 

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of NZ Gator
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:35 PM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Meyer veteran of
UF-Florida State rivalry (Aschoff)

 

FSU isn't a mediocre defense; it is the #7 defense in the country. (The team
is mediocre overall, but that's because of a poor offense.) Anyway, my point
is that this team could beat us if our team, like you, isn't worried at all.
If they take FSU seriously, and I think they will, then we'll do to them as
we've already done to the other highly-ranked defenses we've played. But I
don't take anything for granted in this sport and so I'll continue to be
nervous until the game gets underway.

 

Rob

 

 

From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:11 PM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Meyer veteran of
UF-Florida State rivalry (Aschoff)

 

We haven't beaten mediocre defenses.  We've beaten the #2 and #3 defenses in
the country.  We will destroy the semis.  I'm not really worried at all.  I
just hope we beat Fat Bobby by the largest margin he's ever been beaten.

Oliver

 

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com on behalf of NZ Gator
Sent: Tue 11/25/2008 2:08 PM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Meyer veteran of
UF-Florida State rivalry (Aschoff)

Well it's all about our team. FSU can't begin to keep up with us if we're on
our game, so the only risk is that we overlook them and come in there
playing flat. It's always possible, but I have a sense that these guys
really took the loss to Ole Miss to heart and that they understand the need
to be mentally prepared for every game. If they were going to go flat, I
think this last Saturday is when they would have done it. 

 

I am nervous too, partly because of the loss of Marsh in a very critical
position, but mostly just because I know the 'holes' will be looking at us
the way we looked at Georgia going into that game. They'll want to win this
so badly they'll have been dreaming about it all week. For a mediocre team,
knocking your biggest rival out of the MNC race would be the highlight of
your year. They'll play a very tough game and won't give up ground
willingly. But, in the end, I think our guys will prepare well, and will be
up for the game. If they do, we'll be fine and yet another leading defense
will have its stats shot all to heck.

 

Rob

 

 

 

From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:17 AM
To: GatorTalk
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Meyer veteran of
UF-Florida State rivalry (Aschoff)

 

Ok, now I'm getting worried... again... Last year, I looked forward to this
weekend with glee, knowing that we were going spank the little savages and
send them home crying. This year, I'm not at all confident we'll spank them
nor do I think we'll make them cry. They have played the spoiler before and
it would be just like them to do it again.

 

Randy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Shane   Ford 

To: GatorNEWS   

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:06 AM

Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Notebook: Meyer veteran of UF-Florida State
rivalry (Aschoff)

 


Notebook: Meyer veteran of UF-Florida State rivalry



By Edward Aschoff
Gainesville Sun Correspondent

Published: Monday, November 24, 2008 at 6:01 a.m. 
Last Modified: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 at 12:05 a.m. 

 

Three games into the Florida-Florida State rivalry is more than enough time
for UF coach Urban Meyer to understand the hatred associated with it.

"It's nasty," Meyer said Monday. "This is an ugly one.

His team is so amped for Saturday's game in Tallahassee that Meyer admitted
after The Citadel game that some of the veterans on his team had already
turned their focus to the Seminoles by halftime.

Both UF and FSU rank first in their respective conferences in total offense
and the Seminoles are second in the ACC in total defense, while the Gators
sit at third in the SEC.

Meyer said he is expecting to get the best out of FSU's defense and doesn't
see much of a change from its game plan from years past.

"It's FSU defense," he said. "Schematically, they're very similar to what
they've been in the past. Talent-wise they've been very similar and you
watch them and that's who they are. Very well coac

[gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Q & A with Christian Ponder (Elmasry)

[Ken Kirkley]

You and me both Christian, I'm sure I could find a few more who will
encourage this line of thinking too

 

Q: How has head coach Bobby Bowden helped you develop as a quarterback?

A: He's been such a mentor and a leader to me. I've always looked up to him.
He always has suggestions all the time. He's a heck of a head coach and he's
a guy with a lot of character. I grew up with him, basically. My dad (David)
played at Florida State in the early '80s (as a defensive lineman). I hope
he sticks around.

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:33 AM
To: GATORNEWS
Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Q & A with Christian Ponder (Elmasry)

 


Q & A with Christian Ponder



By Talal Elmasry
Gainesville Sun Correspondent

Published: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 at 7:37 p.m. 
Last Modified: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 at 7:37 p.m. 

 

Q: How would you describe your first season as Florida State's starting
quarterback?

A: I think I've done a pretty good job. I think last year if you would have
told me that I'd be starting this year and we'd be 8-3 at this point, I
definitely would have taken it. I'm pretty proud of the way I've played, but
I think there's definitely a lot of room for improvement.

Q: When did you learn exactly how big this rivalry is?

A: I've grown up a Florida State fan so ever since I was little I've really
realized how big it is. It's a crazy time and it's a heck of a game and a
heck of a week of preparation and everything. I've always realized how big
of a game it is and how much fun it is going into it.

Q: Your team has plenty to play for, but is the team relishing its role as a
possible spoiler to Florida's national title hopes?

A: Not really. We're just looking at it as another game. It's a huge rivalry
game and there is a chance of that, but we're not really worried about that.
It's another game on our schedule so we can't really make it bigger than it
is. We just got to come out and play like we can play.

Q: You guys fell to Boston College but had a huge win against Maryland last
week. What's the mindset of the team right now?

A: We're pretty excited. We knew going into Maryland that was going to be a
tough game and we had to prepare well. We did and things worked out for us.
We got a little momentum on our side. Going into this week, everyone's up
for the Florida game and everyone's working hard and trying to prepare well.

Q: How has head coach Bobby Bowden helped you develop as a quarterback?

A: He's been such a mentor and a leader to me. I've always looked up to him.
He always has suggestions all the time. He's a heck of a head coach and he's
a guy with a lot of character. I grew up with him, basically. My dad (David)
played at Florida State in the early '80s (as a defensive lineman). I hope
he sticks around.





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[gatortalk] Re: My take on bama

[Ken Kirkley]

The difference is we weren't annointed the kings of college football after
those wins.  It wasn't until we ran that gauntlet, winning every game by at
least 28 (something that had never been done before in the SEC) that the
talking heads thought, gee that Florida team is pretty good.  

-Original Message-
From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:05 PM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: My take on bama

Ken K wrote:

But then I look at who they have played and how they played them.  bama got
to the #1 ranking based on wins over the feared Clem's son Tigers, LSU
Tigers and Jawga Tigers, uhm pups.  The teams they beat that were supposed
to be great, well, aren't.
-
Couldn't someone make that same argument about the teams we have played?

I wouldn't make it, but someone could.

Go Gators

Ken B. (NYC Gator)
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[gatortalk] #1

[Ken Kirkley]

Gators #1 in the AP, #2 in the coaches, 1 point behinf OU for first place.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/poll?poll=Coaches


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[gatortalk] Re: NEED YOUR HELP

[Ken Kirkley]

When naming a dog, don't use a name with an 'o' sound on the end.  Sounds
too much like no.   Makes it more difficult to train.  The general
suggestion is to use a name with an "e" sound, so Timmy or Percy would work.
Two Bits is good, you will end up shortening it to TBit, or Bits anyway.

 

Good luck!

 

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bill Hood aka mrgatorman
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:55 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] NEED YOUR HELP

 

Were getting our kids a baby black and white Cocker Spaniel for Christmas.I
get to name him.

 

Im down to three names.

 

Gator

Tebow

Mr. Two Bits

 

Can you help me?

 

Gotta Love It !!!

GO GATORS !!!

mrgatorman





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[gatortalk] Re: "Tebow is a hero" song and video

[Ken Kirkley]

That was good, but the Charlie Weiss song (sung to the tune of GIlligans
Island) is a classic!

 

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tracy Gill
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:40 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] "Tebow is a hero" song and video

 

Hilarious

 

http://www.ryanparkersongs.com/2008/12/tim-tebow-is-hero.html

 

 





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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: [BASKETBALL]: 22 and through: Gators roll (Brockway)

[Ken Kirkley]

Because he couldn't get into a 4 year school out of high school, he went CC.
He then transferred to SOW, but had to wait until January to play to abide
by the transfer rules.

 

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 1:10 PM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: [BASKETBALL]: 22 and through:
Gators roll (Brockway)

 

I have trouble reconciling these two points:

 

-Zeb

 

 

On Dec 29, 2008, at 8:15 AM, Shane Ford wrote:





FREE THROWS: Former Gator signee Derwin Kitchen had 11 points, five rebounds
and an assist off the bench in Florida State's 82-69 win over Western
Kentucky in the Orange Bowl Classic's opening game. Kitchen, a 6-foot-3
shooting guard, was denied enrollment at Floridabefore the 2005 season for
academic reasons and was ineligible for Florida's 57-55 loss at Florida
State earlier this season. He transferred to FSU from Iowa Western Junior
College.

 

 

 

On Dec 29, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Woody wrote:


AJC investigation: Many athletes lag far behind on SAT scores


By   MIKE KNOBLER

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Sunday, December 28, 2008

Football and men's basketball players on the nation's big-time college teams
averaged hundreds of points lower on their SATs than their classmates, and
some of the gaps are so large they call into question the lengths to which
schools will go to win.

The biggest gap between football players and students as a whole occurred at
the University of Florida, where players scored 346 points lower than the
school's overall student body. That's larger than the difference in scores
between typical students at the University of Georgia and Harvard
University.





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[gatortalk] Re: Was It Just Me?

[Ken Kirkley]

Incorrect.  In college, once the ball reaches the end zone, with out a
player in control, it is a touchback.  Stupid rule, but it is in there.


Ken K.

MNGator
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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 4:12 PM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Was It Just Me?


live ball... woulda been a Gator TD.


--- John Vega  wrote:

> 
> On the opening kick-off in the SEC Championship
> game, the ball  
> bounced untouched into the end zone.
> 
> An Alabama player watched it fly by.
> 
> It began to roll to a stop in the end zone and some
> UF players  
> approached it like it was a dead ball. The ref then
> whistles the play  
> over, before it is touched.
> 
> Am I mistaken, or was that still a live ball? Had
> the UF player  
> touched it, would it have been a touchdown? How is
> that any different  
> than a on-side kick?
> 
> I even re-watched the play on Tivo, the ball never
> went out of bounds  
> and was never touched by either team.
> 
> -Zeb
> 
> 
>
> 
> 





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[gatortalk] Re: Was It Just Me?

[Ken Kirkley]

Here is the rule in question:

 

Rule 6

Touching Ground On or Behind Goal Line

ARTICLE 7. The ball becomes dead and belongs to the team defending its goal
line when a free kick is untouched by Team B before touching the ground on
or behind Team B's goal line.

 

-Original Message-
From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ken...@earthlink.net
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 4:49 PM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Was It Just Me?

 

You are forgetting the Alabama bias of the SEC.  Dead ball.

 

Go Gators

 

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

 

Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with SprintSpeed

 

-Original Message-

From: Scott Lucas 

 

Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:12:11 

To: 

Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Was It Just Me?

 

 

 

live ball... woulda been a Gator TD.

 

 

--- John Vega  wrote:

 

> 

> On the opening kick-off in the SEC Championship

> game, the ball  

> bounced untouched into the end zone.

> 

> An Alabama player watched it fly by.

> 

> It began to roll to a stop in the end zone and some

> UF players  

> approached it like it was a dead ball. The ref then

> whistles the play  

> over, before it is touched.

> 

> Am I mistaken, or was that still a live ball? Had

> the UF player  

> touched it, would it have been a touchdown? How is

> that any different  

> than a on-side kick?

> 

> I even re-watched the play on Tivo, the ball never

> went out of bounds  

> and was never touched by either team.

> 

> -Zeb

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

 

 

 

 


 


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[gatortalk] Re: Lighten Up

[Ken Kirkley]

Slugger,

Great way to win over the masses - Lighten Up and Get a Life...

It was you that came not to this list, but to the news only GatorNews list
with a one line fly-by message.  Was it a flame, baiting, or was that your
demonstration of good sportsmanship that apparently the OU faithful wear so
well.

And as for your wonderful castigation of the Gator faithful and our 'abyss
of euphoria' I think what you will find when you take off your ketchup
colored glasses is some of the most knowledgeable, rabid fans in the
country.

If all of the squatters, uhm sooners represent as well as you, I am sure
your time in Miami will be fun...

Just for you Slugger - UF 52, Ou 14


Ken K.

MNGator

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Slugger
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:34 PM
To: GatorTalk
Subject: [gatortalk] Lighten Up


It appears that I have cause quite a stir in Gator Land...Yes, I am a
Sooner, born and raised in the land of wheat, oil wells and football.
I make no apology for my heritage and I wear it proudly as all native
Oklahomans do.

In just a few days two teams who have earned the right to play for the
National Championship will meet to decide who is the better team.
Unlike what appears to be an abyss of Gator euphoria we Sooners know
that it is just a game. It is played and the better team wins. Yes, we
will like you yell and scream for our team and against yours, but in
the end it is still a game. Neither you nor I can do anything about
the outcome. Our job is to support our team.

Now I appreciate the opportunity to have joined in your group for some
light hearted bantering but now is the time to stop chastising my
friend for asking me to join your group. I would hope that if you had
joined my Sooner group you would not have been so brazenly castigated
by the other Sooner faithful.

Now lighten up all of you Gator faithful and get a life...because
after January 8th you will only be able to wish for what may have
been, could have been.

Go Sooners

OU 48 - Florida 24





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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Miami slice of the payout pie (Dooley)

[Ken Kirkley]

IIRC - the 1/13th split is for each team and the conference office.

 

Each team going to a bowl gets allocated money for travel expenses, but with
UF going to Miami, that is not as large as it was for going to Glendale.

 

Ken K.

 

MNGator

 

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Vega
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:01 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Miami slice of the payout pie
(Dooley)

 

 

On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Shane Ford wrote:





When you play for the national championship there is a misconception that
the schools participating reap a $17 million pay day.

Florida is hoping to make $47,400.

According to the budget approved by the University Athletic Association's
board of directors last week, UF will spend $2.42 million on the game and
receive $2.467 million in revenue from the SEC. The rest, as usual, goes
into a pot that includes all bowl revenue and is split by the other 11
conference schools and the league office.

IIRC, there are two flaws with this view.

 

First, it ignores that there are 2 SEC teams in BCS bowls. The added revenue
from the second team is far more important than whether the first team is in
the MNC game or not.

 

Second, IIRC, the split is not even steven. I think that an extra something
(like 1/13th) is carved out from each bowl game/NCAA tourney and added to
the annual payout of the team that went to that bowl. Perhaps this is just
for NCAA tourney, but I recall reading that the annual payout from the SEC
to each team was not identical, and this was the reason.

 

-Zeb

 

 





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[gatortalk] Who else saw this...

[Ken Kirkley]

During the Orange Bowl last night, here is the Cincinnati starting offensive
line:

 

 

I guess they figured he was already in Miami, why not get him a little extra
practice.

 

Ken K.

 

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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Comparing Meyer's and Spurrier's legacies (Dooley)

[Ken Kirkley]

"He's also a former bowl winning UF QB (ironically, against Penn State,
where he coaches now)."



 

Galen was a QB at Penn State, not UF.

 

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:00 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Comparing Meyer's and Spurrier's
legacies (Dooley)

 


I've always thought that Galen Hall got a bum rap. His recruiting efforts
were greatly hindered by the probation that Pell led us to, and some very
nitpicky, trivial, and somewhat unjust followup allegations that occured on
his watch.

That said, he did recruit some kid from the panhandle, which was fertile
Bama territory in those days (still is to some extent) who went on to have a
great stint at UF and is currently the NFL's all time leading rusher.

Hall may have not had the charisma to take us to the heights SOS did, and as
unfortunate as events turned out for him, the timing of those were just
right for us to bring SOS in, which was a watershed day for the program. But
Hall was popular with the players, had good teams (especially considering
the handicaps they were playing with) and has shown, since he's been allowed
back in college coaching, to have a good football mind. He's also a former
bowl winning UF QB (ironically, against Penn State, where he coaches now).

And, for what it's worth, Spurrier has gone on record as saying that he
inherited a very talented squad from Hall, which allowed him to hit the
ground running (passing) and to be a major player from day one in the SEC.

While Zook recruited some very talented guys that Meyer inherited, his
classes all had some major holes to fill, and I'd say that they weren't as
ready to compete as the group that SOS started with.

Back on topic, I suppose making comparisons is an exercise that will always
be popular, but there are so many variables that can be overlooked either
intentionally or unintentionally, that most of the conclusions are highly
subjective at best.

I'm glad we had Pell, glad we had Galen, glad we had SOS, glad Zook was
willing to be the guy that followed the legend, and am glad to have Meyer at
the helm today.

After all of those years of frustration, it's still a little surreal to me
that we have a chance to win a third national championship (in football -
our two in basketball go beyond surreal when viewed with historical
perspective) two days from now.

It certainly is great to be a Florida Gator!

After Graves, Dickey tore up whatever foundation we had. We had some good
years with Galen, even though the recruiting did fall into the toilet.

 

One nice thing about Zook, even when he was losing games, he was still an
effective recruiter.

[gatortalk] Re: Game report?

[Ken Kirkley]

I thought the OU band was vastly superior from what I saw on TV.  I thought
our band with what looked like some spastic movements (I think they might
have been trying to dance), was rather amateurish.  I do like the new
uniforms though.

 

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:02 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Game report?

 

Can we get a Gatortalk game report from someone who was there?

One question:  Was there a fight at the coin toss?  My brother says one of
the Okies insulted Louis Murphy and he had to be restrained by team mates.

Another question:  Who had the best band?  In the 30 or so seconds we saw
them on tv ours looked clearly superior.

Nic Harris is the player Tebow got the unsportsmanlike penalty on.  He's
also the same guy who did the Darnell Docket on Percy.  

 

Thanks,

Oliver





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[gatortalk] Championship Celebration

[Ken Kirkley]

Is going on now.  Anyone with SunSports provide an update?  Are they
staying?  Inquiring out of state minds want to know!


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[gatortalk] He's Back!

[Ken Kirkley]

Timmy's coming back!


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[gatortalk] Re: File - Welcome

[Ken Kirkley]

SUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE SUBSCRIBE

 

How many days till football???

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Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:02 AM
To: gatort...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] File - Welcome

 


Hello and welcome to GatorTalk. 

*** THE GATORTALK GROUP HAS MOVED TO GOOGLE *** 

We have been here on Yahoogroups since early 2000, but in the last couple of
years, mail delivery has become a problem. It would take anywhere from an
hour to a couple of days and sometimes, never, for an email to be posted. 

Therefore, although the GatorTalk group on Yahoo will remain intact as a
backup, we moved to Google Groups IN January 2007. You can find us at
http://groups. 
google.com/group/Gatortalk.

We'll look forward to seeing you there!

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SUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE BEAT TENNESSEE

 

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Subject: [gatortalk] File - Welcome

 


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We have been here on Yahoogroups since early 2000, but in the last couple of
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hour to a couple of days and sometimes, never, for an email to be posted. 

Therefore, although the GatorTalk group on Yahoo will remain intact as a
backup, we moved to Google Groups IN January 2007. You can find us at
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[gatortalk] Re: Non-Gator Related

[Ken Kirkley]

Cpngratulations Randy!  
 
I have been through several 'wilderness' experiences and will be taking your
place on this one soon.  Effective July 1, I am back on the street.  At
least I will have time to spend with the kids over summer!
 
Ken K.

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:47 AM
To: GatorTalk
Subject: [gatortalk] Non-Gator Related


I'm not trying to start a non-gator related thread, and the ONLY reason I'm
mentioning it here is because several months ago a large number of us
participated in a thread relating to the mass of layoffs that has hit our
country. Many of us here on Gatornet had been affected either directly or
indirectly by the layoffs, and I indicated that I was one of the casualties,
having been laid off twice during 2008.
 
Well, the first layoff for me occurred in March of last year and it was by
Sprint, which I have said was the best job I ever had. I loved working for
Sprint, loved my job, loved my teams, blah, blah, blah. Do you get the
picture? Mushy, I know, but true.
 
Anyway, being laid-off by Sprint affected me traumatically, and I never
really recovered from it. Even though I was hired for a short time as a
corporate controller, the economy forced them to outsource their financials
for 25% of my salary and I was laid off again in October. All in all, 2008
was not a very good year for me or thousands of other people. I know I
wasn't the only one going through it.
 
I think I'm rambling, so let me try to get to my point.
 
This past Thursday, after over a week of negotiations (no, I'm not a union
guy - it just seemed to be the appropriate word to use), I received an offer
from Sprint to resume my previous position beginning Monday and with a
substantial raise. I am going from managing 17 sales teams to 26 sales
teams, which will, of course, keep me pretty busy and on the road, but after
spending the last 7 months at home, I WANT to be busy and I WANT to be on
the road!
 
To say I'm happy would be understating it. I'm actually quite "giddy". I
feel like a young Randy and the best looking girl at school just asked me to
take her to the prom. It was TOTALLY unexpected and an incredible rush of
validation. After months and months of doubting my own self-worth, I realize
now that it wasn't me at all. I just happened to be in the wrong place at
the wrong time. That wrong place was on a list of what some economics expert
determined was "expendable" positions.
 
Many of us here have been together for over 15 years, so I consider you good
friends even though we might actually only "see" each other once every 5-6
years. I just wanted to share my good news with you, and hopefully the
moderator won't chastise me for this being non-gator related. :)
 
Oh, did I mention I can't wait for Monday morning? It might be a VERY long
time (if ever) that I dread Monday's again! :)

Randy
 
 




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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems

[Ken Kirkley]

If the wins are vacated, the loss still counts for the opposing team.  If
they had to forfeit the games, then the opposing team would gain the win.

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Alexander
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 6:46 PM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football
program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems



I don't know the answer to this for sure, but one of the articles about the
Semiholes said that if they have to vacate their wins, then their record
could be 0-6 (or something like that) for one year. That suggests to me that
the win is just wiped away from the winner, but not given to the loser. If
the other team would get the win, then FSU would have an 0-12 record instead
of 0-6. That's just me reading between the lines. If anyone knows about
this, it would be great to know for sure exactly how it works.

 

Rob

 

 

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Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:39 AM
To: GatorTalk
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football
program on probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems

 

I hear about schools "vacating" wins every now and then, but I'm unsure of
the end result. If Bama vacates their 2005 win over us, will that also
change OUR record to indicate one additional win?

 

Randy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Shane   Ford 

To: GatorNEWS   

Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:54 AM

Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: NCAA places Alabama football program on
probation & A timeline of Alabama's NCAA problems

 


NCAA places Alabama football program on probation


By JOHN ZENOR AP Sports Writer 

Published: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. 
Last Modified: Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 7:03 p.m. 

 

---snip, snip, snip--

As a result, the NCAA ruled the football team must vacate any wins in which
any of those seven players took part during 2005-07. Alabama said that
pending a successful appeal, the decision would cost the program 21 wins,
including the 2005 Cotton Bowl victory over Texas Tech and an upset of
Florida earlier that season.





 





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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] List of SEC Network affiliates

[Ken Kirkley]

Even more unfortunate and unbelievable - no stations in Minnesota!  What is
up with that? And I thought I would get away with not purchasing Gameplan
this year...


Ken Kirkley
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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Charlie
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:50 AM
To: Gatortalk-list
Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] List of SEC Network affiliates


Unfortunately there is a "TBA" listed for the Ft. Pierce/ WPB area. I
certainly hope they get a station. It would be terrible to have moved back
here from Tennessee and not have a SEC network station.
 
Charlie

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From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Helen Huntley
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:15 AM
To: gatorn...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatornews] List of SEC Network affiliates


Found on UT web site:

http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/072109aaa.html
 

 
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Shane Ford 
wrote:



ESPN will produce SEC games on regional TV



By John Patton <mailto:patt...@gvillesun.com> Gainesville SUN Staff writer

Published: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 at 5:31 p.m. 
Last Modified: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 at 5:31 p.m. 

 

ESPN Regional Television and the SEC have announced a regionally syndicated
college sports package that will air in more than 73 television markets.
Included in that will be the branding of the syndication package as the SEC
Network.

 

 <http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090721/ARTICLES/907219940#%23>
Click to enlarge 

 

The SEC and ESPN recently signed a 15-year contract, and coverage on the SEC
Network will include football, men's and women's basketball.

"As ESPN moves forward in this landmark agreement with the SEC, ESPN
Regional Television is thrilled to provide our viewers with a consistent
window for Southeastern Conference football and basketball," said Pete
Derzis, senior vice president & general manager of ESPN Regional Television.
"With ESPN's multimedia platforms, we anticipate SEC sports will touch an
unprecedented base of college fans nationwide."

Beginning Sept. 5, the SEC Network, which will be carried on WOGX in
Gainesville, will air 13 regular-season football games. The noon telecasts
will have a different touch than previous deals with Jefferson Pilot and
Lincoln Financial in that they will open with a live SEC studio show, which
will be based out of Charlotte and hosted by Rob Stone and former Georgia
offensive lineman Matt Stinchcomb.

Kickoff will be at 12:21 p.m., and the games will be called by Dave Neal,
1989 Heisman Trophy winner Andre Ware and sideline reporter Cara Capuano.

The regular-season SEC men's basketball package on the SEC Network beginning
in January will consist of Wednesday and Saturday games, including
doubleheaders. The SEC Network will also offer regional coverage of multiple
rounds from the SEC Men's Basketball Tournament as well as SEC women's
basketball games on Sundays, also beginning in January.

"The SEC Network, through the efforts of ESPN, will be the largest college
sports syndication television package in the country," SEC Commissioner Mike
Slive said. "The comprehensive market coverage in the nine-state SEC area
combined with the out-of-market reach gives us significant additional
exposure for our programs."

In other television news, Sun Sports announced a new program called "SEC
Gridiron LIVE," a 60-minute studio show offering game previews, analysis and
a social networking component that enables fan interaction. Premiering on
Sept. 2 at 10 p.m., "SEC Gridiron LIVE" is hosted by broadcasting veteran
Charles Davis, with analysts Randy Cross, a longtime NFL lineman; and former
Georgia defensive end David Pollack, as well as social media reporter
Cassidy Hubbarth. 

SEC Gridiron LIVE will be distributed to more than 24 million cable and
satellite households on the FSN regional networks throughout the SEC
territory.

"As a former SEC football player and a lifelong fan, I am thrilled for the
opportunity to host SEC Gridiron LIVE," said Davis, a former Tennessee
defensive back. "SEC football fans are incredibly knowledgeable and
opinionated, and our show gives them the chance to voice their views and
opinions each week. That spirited interaction among fans and the on-air team
is what will set SEC Gridiron LIVE apart and it's something that really
excites me. I'm looking forward to working with Randy, David and Cassidy to
make this show very special."

Contact John Patton at 374-5074 or patt...@gvillesun.com.

 






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[gatortalk] Re: Des Moines

[Ken Kirkley]

She can always make the 3 hour drive to the Northwoods Gator Club in
Minneapolis!
 
I am suprised that Des Moines doesn't have a Gator Club.  I know of a few
Gators down that way, I bet her best bet would be to try and start a new
Gator Club.  Locate a local sports bar and tell them you will bring 20-30 of
your friends and they will be happy to set aside a place to watch.
 
This is Big Televen country, it's not like it's hard to get into a sports
bar on a Saturday...
 
Ken Kirkley
 <mailto:k...@kirkley.net> MNGator
 

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 7:15 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Des Moines


I spent some time searching for a Gator Club / group there and came up with
nothing.  
 
she might also try creating a Meetup group at http://www.meetup.com/
 
 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Des Moines
From: "jfranl" 
Date: Mon, July 27, 2009 8:01 am
To: 


Keith, thanks, I knew there had to be a flaw. I will pass that on.  She says
there are die hard fans in Des Moines, take a look:
 
When wearing Gator gear, I've been stopped, or stopped people many, many
times here.  I met one guy in the grocery store who bought a hat on campus
and then got on the field and rubbed his hat on the turf!  LOL!  Now there's
a serious fan!! Cheryl
 

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:37 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Des Moines

 

Dang.  If she is rich enough to take out a color ad - tell her to move to
Raleigh, NC and she can watch the games at my place ;-)

 

1. Contact the local sports bars to see which ones have a gator club

 

2. Contact the UF alumni association and tell them that you would like to to
start a club and see if they will hel by sending out notices

 

 <http://www.ufalumni.ufl.edu/GatorClubs/find/>
http://www.ufalumni.ufl.edu/GatorClubs/find/

 

 

 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Des Moines
From: "jfranl" 
Date: Sun, July 26, 2009 10:54 pm
To: 




I have a really good Gator friend that lives in Des Moines.  Does anyone
know if they have any watching parties and where they may be located?  She
already has a plan.  I don't see any flaws, do you guys?

Fran

 

Football seasonhere's my plan:  I thought I'd take out a color ad in the
newspaper seeking Gator fans in Des Moines so we could start a Gator club
here.  Then I'd see which one of the "new members" that show up, has a large
screen tv.  Then the club dues could go towards purchasing a football
package for said person and we could all watch games at that person's house.
How does that sound?  Think it would work, or do I have flaws in my plan?

 

 











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[gatortalk] Re: New group

[Ken Kirkley]

Cheryl,

I don't believe there is a Gator club in Des Moines.  We have one up here in
Minneapolis, the only others in the upper midwest are St.Louis and Chicago.
I would suggest you contact Star Sawyer at the UF Alumini association, they
will give you the details and help facilitate a club.

ssaw...@ufalumni.ufl.edu
(352) 392-1616
http://www.ufalumni.ufl.edu/GatorClubs/howtostart.aspx

Good Luck!


Ken Kirkley
MNGator

-Original Message-
From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cheryl
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:10 AM
To: GatorTalk
Subject: [gatortalk] New group


Hi all ~

I'm looking to start a Gator club in Des Moines, IA. I've not been able to
locate one as of yet, so I don't know if one already exists or not, and I'd
like to find out if there's an interest here.

Feedback?





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[gatortalk] Re: Reverend Ike

[Ken Kirkley]

Brother Jed Smock - http://www.brojed.org/
 
 
 
Ken Kirkley
 <mailto:k...@kirkley.net> MNGator

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From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ke...@baldwinnc.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:52 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Reverend Ike


Sorry to hear that.
 
Which reminded me - who was that preacher - early 1980s - that was out on UF
plaza / mall had a woman with him and everytime he mentioned hell or fire -
everyone lit up their lighters?
 
 
 

 Original Message 
Subject: [gatortalk] Reverend Ike
From: "Oliver Barry" 
Date: Fri, July 31, 2009 11:47 am
To: 


Reverend Ike has died.  
How is this Gator related you ask?
I used to listen to him on the way home from Gainesville to Jacksonville in
the 70s.  It was all I could find at 9 at night most times.
He was pretty exciting.  Preached that wealth was a part of being Christian.
I just heard it last night on NPR.  Just a memory of my time at UF.  :-)
 
Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 
 






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2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
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Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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