[leaf-devel] Fwd: making heyu.lrp ???

2014-03-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello list,

Can someone help Jean-Roch with this package? I don't have a development
environment at the moment.

Thanks,
Eric

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Hi Mr. Spakman, I am daring to ask you if you know someone who could
generate a Heyu.lrp package, as I did in 2005. Mr. Delmas who did the
compiling for me is not available, so I was wondering if someone, with the
right tool, could ?
It could be heyu-2.11-rc1.tar.gz compiled for :
http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf/files/Bering-uClibc/5.0.3-rc1/Bering-uClibc_5.0.3-rc1_i486_syslinux_vga.tar.gz/download

or is it simply too much to ask !

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Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: module options for auto-loading

2010-11-15 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Kp,

That's it ;)


Eric

2010/11/15 KP Kirchdoerfer kap...@users.sourceforge.net

 Am Montag, 15. November 2010, 14:09:29 schrieb Eric Spakman:
  David,
 
  If I remember correctly, the option Check tainted module is needed. But
 I
  can't remember which modules needed it. Please check before commiting
 that
  change.
 
 


 Hi Eric

 I guess you mean this one:

 -enabled insmod tainted modules to solve the problem with loading the
 airo
 module

 :)
 kp

 
   Hi Andrew,
  
   I won't promise that *nothing* is broken, but everything I tried works
   OK. I will commit when I get home from work (+6 hours from now).
  
   I have been reading some more. Seems that _SMALL saves 14KB. I think
   we can spare 14KB to use non-SMALL... :-)
  
   I think I will turn *off* FEATURE_LSMOD_PRETTY_2_6_OUTPUT because that
   says it makes the code bigger; I don't think we need it. Same for
   CHECK_TAINTED_MODULE.
  
   dMb
  
CONFIG_FEATURE_CHECK_TAINTED_MODULE=y
CONFIG_FEATURE_MODUTILS_ALIAS=y
CONFIG_FEATURE_MODUTILS_SYMBOLS=y
   
I didn't realize that these last three common options were not set
before. They seemed like a good idea when I was answering the config
prompts. Perhaps we can leave these as they are.
   
They are available only for full-weight modutils; simplified modutils
act like with enabled 2 last options.
   
I have not investigated the module options handling but comments in
modprobe.c indicate that /etc/modprobe.conf (or /etc/modules.conf)
 are
searched for module option settings, e.g.
   
   options tulip2 irq=4 io=0x308
   
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dMb
   
Yes, IMHO it'll be enough.
  
  
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Re: [leaf-devel] Bering-uClibc4: Suggested Change to Default Configuration for dhcpcd

2010-10-26 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello David,

The reason for that was that the dnsmasq is serving as dns server, it gets
its upstream servers from

/etc/dhcpc/resolv.conf


See also:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/buci-dnsmasq3.html
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/buci-network3.html


Eric

2010/10/25 davidMbrooke dmb.leaf-de...@ntlworld.com

 Hi,

 Is it OK if I change the default configuration file for dhcpcd
 (installed as /etc/dhcpcd.conf)?

 Currently this does *not* create /etc/resolv.conf to specify the name of
 the DNS server as supplied in the DHCP offer for eth0. As a result, my
 first boot hangs for many seconds because the BusyBox ntpd cannot
 resolve an IP address for server 0.pool.ntp.org

 I think that for most users (especially novices) it will be more logical
 to match the behaviour of other distributions, which do refer to the
 DHCP-specified DNS server(s) by default. As it happens, I would prefer
 that behaviour myself... :-)

 kp: I waited to post this until you were back with us. I suspect the
 existing configuration suits you very well, so you get to decide.

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Re: [leaf-devel] The packaging of Haserl.

2008-03-30 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Mats Erik,

I have no objection in putting these binaries in a seperate package.
Especially if it makes maintaining easier.


Regards,

Eric

 Hello folks,


 I will the next few days commit a major overhaul of Webconf,
 resulting in new versions of at least five webconf packages. The most
 drastic change I implement is to render the web pages for a fixed width in
 order to ensure a consistent optical impression. Any objections should be
 expressed now!

 Let me raise a possible issue with webconf.lrp. Some time
 ago KP informed me of an earlier decision of the developer circle, saying
 that scripted services like my cgi-scripting are not maintained inside the
 CVS-tree for Bering-uClibc, but instead
 it is the externally manufactured lwp-packages and webconf.lrp that do
 get committed into the official repository. In my present work for the
 upcoming beta cycle I have observed that webconf.lrf indeed does contain
 TWO compiled binaries:


 /usr/sbin/haserl
 /usr/sbin/pwcrypt


 My naive thought is that these two ought to be moved into a
 separate package to enhance the maintenance of their sources. It is true
 that the outdated version of haserl used for Bering-uC is halfway orphaned
 by the original upstreams developer Nathan Angelakos, but in case Bering
 in the (very) long run considers a migration to the Lua suporting newer
 Haserl edition, then it
 is all the more important to keep the  sources of Haserl inside our
 CVS-tree, instead of an external binary in webconf.lrp.
 This issue needs no immediate action, but I wanted to mention this.
 Of course, considerations on a new kernel series and a later
 library issue than presently used, both deserve higher priority, but the
 state of haserl can be solved/improved in less than an hour, should you
 decide to put it in a separate package.

 Best regards


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Re: [leaf-devel] Alpha Test File Server Add-On Packages - Where Should I Put Them?

2008-03-19 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi David,

Very nice!

NFS support indeed needs an uClibc change (which adds a lot of size), but
LVM2 only needs a kernel module AFAIK so would be an easy one.
Anyway, people who need NFS server support can create there own packages
if they like with the provided documentation.

The setup can be added to
leaf.cvs.sourceforge.net/leaf/src/bering-uclibc/contrib/ which you can do
with your sourceforge account. Or you can send me the sources and I can
add it. It would be a pity if the setup would get lost.


Eric

 Hi,


 I've been experimenting with using Bering-uClibc as a fileserver for a
 few months now, mainly using the iSCSI protocol. Reviewing things again as
 a result of my experience I'm probably going to switch to using OpenFiler
 instead, since it's a better fit to my specific requirements.

 While setting up my Bering-uClibc fileserver I developed a few add-on
 packages which might be of interest to others. They're not candidates for
 the contrib area since they require tweaks to the kernel and to uClibc,
 but it seems a shame to simply throw them away... They're fully configured
 for BuildTool  BuildPacket.

 I'm thinking that I could put them in my own devel directory on
 SourceForge - under http://leaf.cvs.sourceforge.net/leaf/devel/
 How do I get such a directory - by becoming a member of the LEAF
 project? I already have a SourceForge account (davidmbrooke) so if somebody
 could add me to the project that would be great.


 My packages are


 nfsutils  From http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ User-space tools for an NFS
 file server These work in conjunction with the nfsd kernel module
 This in turn needs full RPC support from uClibc


 portmap   From http://neil.brown.name/portmap/ Provides a ONCRPC port
 mapper, for NFS etc.

 lvm2  From http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/ User-space tools for LVM2
 logical volume management Relies on Device Mapper support (user space and
 kernel)

 dev-map   From http://sourceware.org/dm/ User-space Device Mapper tools
 for LVM2 etc. These work in conjunction with a kernel device-mapper



 There's also some DocBook documentation on what needs to be modified in
 the kernel and uClibc in order to build the packages.


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Re: [leaf-devel] Bering uClibc with Kernel 2.6

2008-03-11 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi David,

 (2) with a 2.6 you can embed your whole file system into the
 kernel and boot and go just from the kernel -- no file system at all --
 that way you don't have to pivot-root from the initrd -- just stay there.

That's not correct. Indeed you can make a choice to include the initramfs
(not initrd) into the kernel, but it has no technical advantage besides
having only a kernel instead of a kernel and an initramfs.cpio. The reason
to have both options has to do with GPL and including non-GPLed modules.
Besides it's easier to have a seperate kernel and initramfs if you want to
support multiple boot devices and also keep size down.
In both cases you have to do a switch_root (not pivot_root which was the
case with kernel 2.4) to free the initramfs and start init.

So you always have a file system, ramfs, even if you embed the whole
system in the kernel and you have to do a switch_root to give init the
control and do some other housekeeping.

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Re: [leaf-devel] Bering uClibc with Kernel 2.6

2008-03-11 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi David,

 (2) with a 2.6 you can embed your whole file system into the
 kernel and boot and go just from the kernel -- no file system at all --
 that way you don't have to pivot-root from the initrd -- just stay there.


 I'm sort of fishing for stories about why that might be a bad idea,
 beyond that 1: it varies from standard practice and 2: the initramfs is
 not backed by swap, as normal shmfs is

An added note: Like Martin explained it has to do with system memory.

It is theoretical possible to use the initramfs ramfs as root filesystem,
but it has a big drawback. In the initramfs we create three dynamic tmpfs
(a superset of ramfs) for root, tmp and log with an upper memory limit
set, which can be defined in leaf.cfg.
This means that, when correctly set, that growing files (like logfiles)
can't crash the system if the total size is beyond the physical memory
size of the system, because of the upper limit. This isn't possible with
the simple initramfs fs.

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Re: [leaf-devel] etc.local

2008-02-25 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,


 I understand your proposal, but it doesn't work reliable. The reason is
  that other packages explicitly include specific files in those
 directories. Adding a rule in etc.local to include all files could
 confuse the backup logic.

 I can understand this, although scheduling a file/directory twice for
 backup should definitely _not_ confuse the backup logic. What if someone
 erroneously places something in local.local which is already backed up by
 a specific package.local. Will this confuse the backup logic? If so, then
 I consider this a bug, as adding anything in local.local is
 legitimate :-(

 Of course I could not resist to test this, and added etc/network to
 local.local, here is the result

 gatekeeper# tar tzf /CF/gatekeep.lrp | grep network
 etc/network/handle_routes etc/network/if-down.d/del_routes
 etc/network/if-up.d/add_routes etc/network/interfaces etc/network/routes

 This actully looks pretty OK to me, modifying etc.local accordingly
 yields

 gatekeeper# tar tzf /CF/gatekeep.lrp | grep network
 etc/network/handle_routes etc/network/if-down.d/del_routes
 etc/network/if-up.d/add_routes etc/network/interfaces etc/network/routes

 and having it in both files

 gatekeeper# tar tzf /CF/gatekeep.lrp | grep network
 etc/network/handle_routes etc/network/if-down.d/del_routes
 etc/network/if-up.d/add_routes etc/network/interfaces etc/network/routes

 So apparently with a pretty recent config package the proposed change
 does not break functionality.

The problem is that the sha1sums are calculated multiple times, it
should work but gives some overhead and is not very clean. The config
system is designed to explicitly list files you want to backup and only
use directories if you are sure only a specific package uses it. See also
the following document: http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/buci-apkg3.html


 A better way is to include those files in local.local (local.lrp),
 that's where that package is meant for. Or to have a specific package
 with the added files and a .local file.

 That is the way I do it right now, my local.local file is constantly
 growing though.

Or just add the etc/network to local.local

 cheers

 Erich


Cheers,

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Re: [leaf-devel] etc.local

2008-02-25 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,


 The problem is that the sha1sums are calculated multiple times, it
 should work but gives some overhead and is not very clean.

 I see, the sha1sum files appear to be claculated on the contents of
 package.list, not on package.local, which holds files and
 directories to be backed up. So this should not hurt, or does it?

I don't understand your question. This is the logic used to calculate the
sha1sums (this is part of the package install logic in linuxrc):

#Calculate sha1sum
if [ -f $PFX/$f.local ] ; then
cat $PFX/$f.local | while read x ; do
[ -e $x ]  find $x -type f | xargs sha1sum  $PFX/$f.sha1
done
fi

So package.local is used, not package.list

 The config

 system is designed to explicitly list files you want to backup and only
  use directories if you are sure only a specific package uses it. See
 also the following document:
 http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/buci-apkg3.html


 A better way is to include those files in local.local (local.lrp),
 that's where that package is meant for. Or to have a specific
 package with the added files and a .local file.
 That is the way I do it right now, my local.local file is constantly
 growing though.

 Or just add the etc/network to local.local


 Which would also break the above mentioned principles :-)

True, but at least it's your responsibility ;-))

 It also contains stuff not yet packaged for logrotate.d, e.t.c


 cheers

 Erich

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Re: [leaf-devel] etc.local

2008-02-25 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

 The problem is that the sha1sums are calculated multiple times, it
 should work but gives some overhead and is not very clean.

 I see, the sha1sum files appear to be claculated on the contents of
 package.list, not on package.local, which holds files and
 directories to be backed up. So this should not hurt, or does it?

 I meant package.conf not package.list

Nope, it's really package.local. Using package.conf would not cover
all files that might change.

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Re: [leaf-devel] Intel e1000 network drivers

2008-02-18 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

 If the patched 7.6.15 e1000 driver works I will post the patch to the
 e1000 driver list. Still, where is it best placed here? I see my mess from
 the r1000 driver is still lying around in CVS :-(

Just send it to me.
For removing the previous mess ;-) we need some sourceforge intervention.
We can't remove directories from CVS ourselves.

 Erich

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Re: [leaf-devel] xntp problem with busybox 1.8.2 (was dhcpcd still seems to malfunction in beta2a)

2008-01-07 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

Strange, neither the version of ntpd or iptools has changed between the
two betas and the initrd basicly only contains busybox. So I wonder what
can cause this problem... besides an ntpd init script (busybox change in
init applet?) or a busybox command used in the ntp scripts..

Eric



 Do you still have CONFIG_FEATURE_IFUPDOWN_IP_BUILTIN=y enabled in
 busybox? This shouldn't be because we are using the full version of the
 iptools.

 I removed it again as it serves no purpose for us. Again, further checks
 showed that even without ifup/down bringing the interface up by just using
 plain ip commands does not help. So ifup/down is not (the only) culprit.

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Re: [leaf-devel] xntp problem with busybox 1.8.2 (was dhcpcd still seems to malfunction in beta2a)

2008-01-07 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

Because it works for KP, did you make any change to the ntpd package or
did you compile your own?


Eric



 Strange, neither the version of ntpd or iptools has changed between the
  two betas and the initrd basicly only contains busybox.

 Yes, strange indeed, I just looked at .config again to double check the
 settings.

 So I wonder what

 can cause this problem... besides an ntpd init script (busybox change
 in init applet?) or a busybox command used in the ntp scripts..

 Even when ntpd is started manually it does not write its logfiles and
 does not send anything on the interface (verified with tcpdump). It will be
 a bit of a challenge to find what exactly causes ntpd to hang. The
 interface is running as I am accessing the router through it.

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Re: [leaf-devel] RTL8111B driver

2007-04-05 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,


 Let me know if you run into pb's.


 Indeed I am running into problems. My sources are currntly at
 /home/mega/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/sou
 rce

 I am using


 cvs -z3 -d:ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/leaf/src/apps
 import r1000/buildtool.cfg Realtek r1000_v1-05

 to try to add r1000/buildtool.cfg it to src/apps but this fails

 Cannot access /cvsroot/leaf/src/apps/CVSROOT
 No such file or directory


 now how and from where do you import your files?


The easiest way is to checkout the /leaf/src/bering-uclibc/contrib/
directory, create the r1000 directory, cvs add that directory. Copy the
new files to it, cvs add them and do a cvs commit.

 Thanks


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Re: [leaf-devel] RTL8111B driver

2007-04-05 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich, Mike,

 Erich,
 Disregard my last post. You omitted a path 'bering-uclibc' from the
 import command.

 http://leaf.cvs.sourceforge.net/leaf/src/bering-uclibc/apps/

The correct path is:
leaf.cvs.sourceforge.net/leaf/src/bering-uclibc/contrib/

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Re: [leaf-devel] libstdc++

2007-03-05 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Natanael,

 Hi Mike,


 Everyone,
 Tom just asked about libstdc++ for embedded use on the shorewall-devel
  list. I wasn't able to find a package for that in our package
 repository with a cursory look. Do we have a libstdc++ package?

 We do have a package containing libstdc++: libcxx.lrp
 But the library is also pretty big, more than 400 kbyte...


 Have a look at
 http://cxx.uclibc.org/


 The size of my alpinelinux package (very similar the lrp format) is
 64062 bytes.


 Sum of uncompressed filesize is 182kb.


That's definitly worth looking at. But the software doesn't seem to be
very actively developt...

Is it a dropin replacement for the gcc libstdc++ libraries?



 Natanael Copa


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Re: [leaf-devel] libstdc++

2007-03-04 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Mike,

 Everyone,
 Tom just asked about libstdc++ for embedded use on the shorewall-devel
 list. I wasn't able to find a package for that in our package repository
 with a cursory look. Do we have a libstdc++ package?

We do have a package containing libstdc++: libcxx.lrp
But the library is also pretty big, more than 400 kbyte...

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Re: [leaf-devel] libstdc++

2007-03-04 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Mike,


 Eric,
 Thanks for the information. If I have this straight, either choice is
 about the same resource wise.

 microperl 350 kbytes libstdc++ more than 400 kbyte

Not entirely, the microperl package (tar.gz) is 350 kbyte (without
probably needed modules) the microperl binary is 930 kbyte. The libcxx
package is 155 kbyte and the library itself (inside the package) more than
400 kbyte.

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Re: [leaf-devel] rt2400

2007-02-27 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

This is always of interest, please send the patch.

Eric

 Hi folks


 I added the rt2400 module to the ralink directory. I have a patch for
 ralink if this should be of interest.

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Re: [leaf-devel] Perl

2007-02-25 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Mike,

On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 11:11, Tom Eastep wrote:
 If you find one that looks promising, let me know. I assume that it will
 be limited in some way but I'm used to programming to the greatest
 common denominator.

Tom,
It looks like OpenWrt and NSLU2-Linux have microperl ipkg builds
available.

http://openwrt.org/
http://www.nslu2-linux.org/

ipkg - the Itsy Package Management System
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Ipkg

As does LEAF Bering-uClibc. :-)

http://leaf.cvs.sourceforge.net/leaf/bin/packages/uclibc-0.9/28/testing/uperl.lrp?view=log

We have indeed, but like Kp said it's around 350 kbytes compressed and
only contains the Perl (micro) interpreter. No Perl modules or any 
other goodies (this would probably the same with the openwrt ipkg). 
Together with a Shorewall interpretation, the combination would be at 
least somewhere between 400 and 500 kbyte (compressed). That's a lot 
more than the current 90 kbyte...

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Re: [leaf-devel] Perl

2007-02-25 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Mike,

Everyone,
It looks like there are some embedded distributions that successfully
built relatively small perl packages. See:

CPAN/Ports
http://www.cpan.org/ports/

Maybe we can glean useful information from existing binary builds to
generate our own package.


I don't see a lot of embedded distributions in this list, only sharp, 
symbian and wince but no linux based.

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Re: [leaf-devel] Oops

2007-01-06 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

 As I mentioned a few days ago, I've, err, borrowed, yeah, that's the
 word, Bering uClibc as a base for a boot floppy I need to install my LFS
 installation on new boxes from a CD or file server.  So I've hacked it a
 bit to simplify things I didn't need (self-maintainability, etc.), and
 forgive me if I mis-remember a few file names.  I don't think my hacking
 caused the problem I'm reporting.

 Take a look at /var/lib/lrp/root.blk.mk.  At the bottom you're going to
 link to /dev/scd0 ?  Where did you do a makedevs to create /dev/scd* ? And
 that means a few mods in root.dev.own  root.dev.mod (555 for CD?). But
 then, why scd*?  The sr_mod.o module for SCSI CDROM support mentions sr
 on the console when disks are probed.  I added a makedevs for sr[,1,2,3],
 and linked /dev/cdrom to /dev/sr, and it works.  Maybe the module would
 work with scd* too, I don't know.

I'm not sure about that. To my knowledge SCSI disks devices have major
number 8 and are called sd*, SCSI CD-rom devices have major number 11 and
are called scd*. The sr* prefix has been deprecated.

Anyway, the scd devices don't exist so should be added to root.blk.mk. I
think permission 660 is ok for CD and root.disk should by ok for
owner/group.

Thanks for finding that bug!


 p.s. if there's any interest in this I can contribute my initrd.

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Re: [leaf-devel] ipt_CONNMARK.o

2006-12-19 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

I just checked rc1 and it's in the modules tarball:
2.4.33\kernel\net\ipv4\netfilter\ipt_CONNMARK.o

Eric

 It looks like ipt_CONNMARK.o is not in the Bering*_modules.tgz file
 in the iso image.

 Can we please get this in as part of the standard build before
 shipping 3.0?  It's needed for TCP connection tracking when using shorewall
 to do intelligent rate limiting of flows.

 Much thanks,


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Re: [leaf-devel] ulogd does not use new logfile after rotation

2006-12-01 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

 Both logfiles (shorewall.log and ulogd.log), served by ulogd are 
 rotated by there own cron scripts. ulogd.log once a week and shorewall.
 log every day. In both cron scripts ulogd is reloaded.

Using different logrotation methods is IMHO not very reasonable. I am
not using shorewall for my big production systems and just added the
logfile in question to the lrp.conf file to profit from the existence of
a logrotation mechanism. If we offer more than one logging mechanism,
then, I believe, we must also offer the tools to handle the respective
log files.

We are not using different logrotating functions, all logrotating is 
done by the same program. The lrp.conf config file configures the 
syslogd logfiles. The ulogd logging and other daemon logfiles are use 
ther own cron scripts. This is done for a few reasons, ulogd and 
other packages are optional, it would be ugly to rotate non-existend 
logfiles and they have nothing todo with syslogd.

The modification to the logrotate function is minor and, if applied
correctly, will not disturb current functionality. Another possibility
might be to add multicron-p to etc.local so local modifications are
backed up to configdb.

Why should this be done? There is nothing wrong with ulogd logrotating.
The ulogd cron script hasn't changed since Bering-1.2 days. 

There is probably something else wrong in your setup, can you be more 
specific about the problem you have with logrotating?

cheers

Erich

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Re: [leaf-devel] ulogd does not use new logfile after rotation

2006-12-01 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,


 Using different logrotation methods is IMHO not very reasonable. I am
  not using shorewall for my big production systems and just added the

 snip


 I think I know what is going wrong. You're not using shorewall, why
 do you use ulogd? Ulogd is used exclusively for shorewall, so if you
 don't use shorewall you don't need ulogd.


 There are more things between heaven and hell but shorewall.
 Other programs may use ulogd as well, for example firewall builder,
 which is a fine interface to iptables for complex situations. I just wanted
 to use the built-in logrotation without my own logratate script, which, of
 course I could write but do not really need to.

 I do not believe in reinventing the wheel though, so I just added the
 fwb.log to leaf.conf, which IMHO is exactly the place to add the necessary
 parameters for log rotation.

 If you feel that modifying multicron-p is not the way to do it
 generally, then please add it to etc.local, so anyone inclined to do so may
 do so and save it in configdb.

The correct place to change this is the ulogd cron.daily file, lrp.conf is
for configuration of the logfiles served by syslogd. I will look for an
option to pass the ulogd.conf logfile parameters to the cron.daily script,
so this will handled automatically (like done in mhttpd).

 cheers

 Erich

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Re: [leaf-devel] ulogd does not use new logfile after rotation

2006-12-01 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

 The correct place to change this is the ulogd cron.daily file, lrp.conf
 is for configuration of the logfiles served by syslogd. I will look for
 an option to pass the ulogd.conf logfile parameters to the cron.daily
 script, so this will handled automatically (like done in mhttpd).

 Unfortunately it appears that the ulogd.conf file has a non shell
 syntax, so it cannot easily be sourced. For the moment being I have changed
 the cron.daily/ulogd script to handle my own file. I will probably rewrite
 it to also handle multiple files if I see a need.

 I still would like to have a _single_ logfile rotation script and a
 _single_ place where to define logfiles to be rotated, ulogd or syslogd
 or whatever logd. I am aware that the logrotate package used by bigger
 distros is probably too fat for LEAF, but I also don't like to have
 separate rotate scripts for every package there is. This IMHO is
 redundant.

There _is_ a single logrotating script and there is really no need to
define logfiles to be rotated. The packages that contains daemons that do
logging also contain a cron job that calls the logrotating script. This in
an automatic process, no need to define a logfile. If we would do that it
would also mean that we have to guess which future packages would contain
logging and we would have to rotate logs in that single place (and check
for the existence of a daemon to reload) for every possible package an
user may need (including things like samba).

The reason you hit by it is because you used ulogd for something that
wasn't taken into account. The best way to fix it (IMHO), is to
dynamically pass logfilenames to the cron scripts (if possible), like is
done now in the lastest mhttpd(s) packages in CVS or create some sort of
API that will pass logfile names and daemon names used in a package to a
common cron script for reloading and logrotating.

 cheers

 Erich

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Re: [leaf-devel] ulogd does not use new logfile after rotation

2006-11-30 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

Both logfiles (shorewall.log and ulogd.log), served by ulogd are 
rotated by there own cron scripts. ulogd.log once a week and shorewall.
log every day. In both cron scripts ulogd is reloaded.

Eric

Hi Folks

again, I should learn to change subject, sorry

in my attempt to move to Bering-uClibc I found that ulogd does not
switch to the new logfile after log rotation.

I suggest to add

svi ulogd restart

to /etc/multicron-p in the rotatelogs function.

cheers

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Re: [leaf-devel] small glitch in ssh/scp in bering-uClibc

2006-11-29 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,


 Starting with bering-uclibc3.x I observed an error when trying to use
  ssh/scp.

 debug2: calling socket with 10 , 1 , 6
 socket: Address family not supported by protocol


 This is due to the fact that the socket call is using an address
 family of inetv6 by default.
 is this really an error, or just a warning? I mean, does ssh/scp work
 without that change (it did in the past, but I've not used the OpenSSH
 packages on leaf in quite a while) on a box without IPv6?

 Actually that is why I call it a glitch :-) it gives an unpleasant
 feeling when you run this in a script, but it works.

I was under the impression that it didn't work because you called it an
error ;-)
I will see if there are other methods to suppress the warning without
disabling ipv6 support in the config.

 I have never seen this
 happen on a 1.x glibc based Bering. I must admit, I never explored the
 ssh_config file neither.

Because 1.x glibc Bering didn't support ipv6 at all

 cheers

 Erich

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Re: [leaf-devel] QBox - Back under active development

2006-11-29 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Ron,

The nice thing about Bering-uClibc-3.0 is that you don't need to tune the
packages but only have to touch the configdb.lrp and moddb.lrp to have a
different configuration.

An other nice thing is that you can create an lwp web plugin specific for
QOS use, given it a specific webinterface.

Instead of branching out, you could create a custom QOS, configdb and
moddb package and a lwp plugin. The packages can be merged in an automatic
way with the standard package to an image. This way you can just keep pace
with Bering-uClibc development without putting effort in creating images
on your own.

Btw, what's wrong with shorewall's QOS implementation?

Regards,
Eric

 Hello all,


 I just wanted to touch base and let you know I'm starting a cycle to
 get QBox updated, and will be using Bering-uClibc 3.0.

 I may actually branch out QBox into 2 'versions.' One will be a
 regular leaf package that can be installed normally. The other would be
 that I branch off and redo the web interface etc. The goal of QBox has
 always been to provide an ultra-simple setup and management for QoS. By
 redoing the web interface to specifically apply to QBox I believe the
 solution will be more appealing.

 Any thoughts, comments, suggestions on features are welcome. This is
 an ambitious release, where I hope to:

 - provide QBox LEAF package
 - custom web-interface / gui for the QBox 'complete' version
 - modular, portable, installable QoS schemes. The idea with this is to
 be able to create different QoS setups typical for certain solutions. You
 install that setup, set it as the active scheme, and then tweak the
 parameters specific to that queueing scheme. An example would be having a
 different scheme for an office with VoIP vs and office without VoIP. There
 could be a gaming scheme. Users could submit schemes and download them.
 This is the feature I'm most excited about.


 Regards,
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Re: [leaf-devel] QBox - Back under active development

2006-11-29 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul, Ron,

 One of the things I always bitch about here (and unfortunately don't
 help enough with) is improving on exactly this thing -- the packaging and
 installation of B-U along with the dev environment.

 If you feel the same way, it would be totally cool if you would be
 willing to take some time and look at the updates to B-U and shorewall
 since the last time you looked, and consider adding your effort to the
 existing distribution.  I don't think the goals of the projects are
 dissimilar, I just think that the priorities are not.  With someone
 actually spending real time working on adapting B-U to your target
 audience (e.g. yourself and any others who jump on your bandwagon as soon
 as they see how cool the work is that you're doing), you'll be able to
 focus on QoS and UI issues rather than that plus all the other stuff of
 building your own special distribution as a fork.


I totally agree with that. The new config system in B-U makes it possible
to easily create images for specific function and/or hardware, there is
indeed not much priority in actually doing that. There are some documents
added with a few examples, like VOIP and NAS/SAN:
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/bucu-voip.html
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/bucu-nas.html
and there is also nice webconfig framework which has a lot of potential,
but not much focus.

Creating an image for specific function and hardware is not much more than
creating a list of needed packages and custom moddb and configdb packages
with the right modules and config changes. With only that you can create
any kind of appliance with minimal effort. Paul did a lot of work in the
config system, so he's not exactly right with don't help enough with ;)

So all ingredients are available and it would be great if someone could
focus on UI and QOS issues, with a preference to no re-invent the wheel
but also look how to improve current projects, like QOS in shorewall.

Configuring a router/firewall or any other appliance is and will never be
easy, you always need to know what you are doing. But having a good UI
and
convenient installation is a big pre.

 Best of luck either way,


 Paul

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Re: [leaf-devel] ez-ipupdate?

2006-11-23 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

There is no reason for it, that's why it's just available ;-)

http://leaf.sourceforge.net/bering-uclibc/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=12MMN_position=32:32

ezipupd.lrp

Eric

 Is there a reason the ez-ipupdate package for 3.x isn't in the packages
 3.x list?  Does it not build or?


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Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

 What troubles me more is that Tom updates the documentation on his
 site to represent the state of the art in shorewall v5, and the
 currently shipping versions of LEAF or BU are using shorewall v3,
 our documentation will not match the code we're shipping.
 snip


 There is no shorewall version 5, the current Stable Release version is
 3.2.6 which is what we use. The development release is version 3.3.5,
 which will become 3.4.x when stable. When this version is stable, that
 one is going to be used in BU.

 Eric

 Sorry, that was a hypothetical.

Ok, but back to the documentation issue. BU will always use the latest
stable shorewall version and even with an older version of BU it shouldn't
be a big problem to update to the latest shorewall (especially 3.0
onwards). Why duplicate the shorewall documentation on the LEAF site?
Isn't it much simpler to just provide a link to Tom's documentation?

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Re: [leaf-devel] Documentation in Shorewall Configuration Files

2006-11-23 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Mike,

 Ok, but back to the documentation issue. BU will always use the latest
 stable shorewall version and even with an older version of BU it
 shouldn't be a big problem to update to the latest shorewall (especially
 3.0
 onwards). Why duplicate the shorewall documentation on the LEAF site?
 Isn't it much simpler to just provide a link to Tom's documentation?


 Eric,
 Aren't we discussing the Shorewall man page?


 The man page ships with Shorewall, but we strip it for size. This places
 an onus on us to provide the man page in some fashion. We are not
 duplicating anything Tom and the Shorewall team didn't intend for
 distribution.

 Am I missing something?

There are no shorewall manpages yet, this is something what will be
introduced in shorewall 3.4 AFAIK.
But when they are introduced, it shouldn't be a big problem to commit them
to LEAF's manpage space. Or am I missing something? ;-)

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Re: [leaf-devel] xl2tpd does not compile

2006-10-25 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

Are you sure you're using the latest checkout of apps/linux? The
linux/if_pppol2tp.h file is part of the pppol2tp-linux-2.4.27.patch.gz
patch in the linux CVS directory.

Eric

 Hi Folks


 it appears that the xl2tpd package as distributed on CVs does not
 compile.

 The makefile uses -DUSE_KERNEL and linux/if_pppol2tp.h is missing in the
 kerrnel indeed

 make -C xl2tp-1.04
 CC=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/stag
 ing/usr/bin/gcc
 LD=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/stag
 ing/usr/bin/ld DFLAGS=-Os -march=i486 -DUSE_KERNEL
 make[1]: Entering directory
 `/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/source/
 xl2tpd/xl2tp-1.04'
 /data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/staging
 /usr/bin/gcc
 -Os -march=i486 -DUSE_KERNEL -fno-builtin -Wall -DSANITY -DLINUX
 -DIP_ALLOCATION   -c -o l2tpd.o l2tpd.c
 In file included from l2tpd.c:48:
 l2tp.h:236:31: linux/if_pppol2tp.h: No such file or directory
 l2tpd.c: In function `start_pppd':



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Re: [leaf-devel] xl2tpd does not compile

2006-10-25 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,


 Are you sure you're using the latest checkout of apps/linux? The
 linux/if_pppol2tp.h file is part of the pppol2tp-linux-2.4.27.patch.gz
 patch in the linux CVS directory.

 I have not seen that patch in my linux directory, so it is very possible
 that it is not up to latest level. I still have not yet found a way to keep
 up to the development without destroying my own config. How do you guys
 handle to have your own workspace and still keep up with CVS. buildtool
 does not appear to be the solution for this.

It's not really meant for it. We don't really have our own workspace,
CVS head is our workspace. But why do you need your own workspace? Do you
have that much changes from the files in CVS?

 Checking out the apps manually does not appear to result in the same
 tree structure as buidltool does, there is no patch directory :-(

 Is is easiest to keep it apart from the source directory and update it
 manually?

If you have a few packages with changes from the mainline, it's indeed the
easiest to just checkout everything (and keep it current) and copy new
files for privately changed packages to the source directory.

 cheers

 Erich

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Re: [leaf-devel] xl2tpd does not compile

2006-10-25 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

 How do you guys
 handle to have your own workspace and still keep up with CVS.
 buildtool does not appear to be the solution for this.

 It's not really meant for it. We don't really have our own workspace,
  CVS head is our workspace. But why do you need your own workspace? Do
 you have that much changes from the files in CVS?

 No, but my memory is limited :-(


 If I check out everything the way buildtool does, its structure differs
 somehow from the way a straightforward CVS checkout does. I like the way
 buildtool keeps its files in place and eases the compilation and package
 building. I am just wondering how this apps/linux directory fits the
 picture. I am wondering if it was not easier and more comprehensive if
 buildtool would maintain the same source tree structure as CVS. At least
 for my limited understanding it would make things clearer.

Yes, you're correct... It's a bit historical, some of the setups in CVS
have subdirectories with patches (linux) or skeleton directories (etc).
From a CVS viewpoint it's somewhat more structured than having everything
in one directory, but it's indeed not consistent with how it gets
downloaded.

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Re: [leaf-devel] initial 3.0 beta feedback

2006-09-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

Just my random notes.  I built a leaf flash from scratch using pxeboot 
on a spare box using the CVS .lrp packages

diff.lrp is not being built?

Diff is part of busybox and included.

a port of traceroute would be a good thing (feedback from burning man)
ditto iperf

Iperf is pretty difficult to compile, it's c++ code and is known to 
have problems with crosscompiling (it's even noted on the website).
Traceroute won't work on the router by default, shorewall will block 
the traffic in the standard config. 
But both are nice additions as addon packages.

not having a WRAP configdb kinda sucked... (the whole serial console 
thing was a pain in the ass again).  Could we uncomment the /dev/ttyS0 
line in the default /etc/inittab until this stuff gets hammered out?
It's much better to have to turn off a tty that you don't want than be 
unable to access an unconfigured machine.

You can just tar.gz a changed /etc/inittab and rename it to configdb.
lrp to have an initial package.

lrpstat  friends aren't in the packages directory

Lrpstat needs a java sdk to build, will take a look. But I think it 
is in CVS somewhere...

webwlan was not either

Not sure, wil take a look. (I think there is a webwlan.lwp somewhere 
in CVS).

should we be saving /var/lib/random-seed in configdb?

It is saved.

Eric

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Re: [leaf-devel] patch: enable traceroute in busybox

2006-09-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

I don't want to enable traceroute in busybox, because it don't work 
out of the box with shorewall and it adds size. Traceroute can also 
be done from any host connected.
I rather have a separate traceroute package.

Eric

? busybox-1.2.1
Index: .config
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/leaf/src/bering-uclibc/apps/busybox/.config,v
retrieving revision 1.10
diff -u -r1.10 .config
--- .config13 Aug 2006 20:22:05 -  1.10
+++ .config8 Sep 2006 05:08:09 -
@@ -547,10 +547,10 @@
 # CONFIG_FEATURE_TFTP_PUT is not set
 # CONFIG_FEATURE_TFTP_BLOCKSIZE is not set
 # CONFIG_DEBUG_TFTP is not set
-# CONFIG_TRACEROUTE is not set
-# CONFIG_FEATURE_TRACEROUTE_VERBOSE is not set
-# CONFIG_FEATURE_TRACEROUTE_SOURCE_ROUTE is not set
-# CONFIG_FEATURE_TRACEROUTE_USE_ICMP is not set
+CONFIG_TRACEROUTE=y
+CONFIG_FEATURE_TRACEROUTE_VERBOSE=y
+CONFIG_FEATURE_TRACEROUTE_SOURCE_ROUTE=y
+CONFIG_FEATURE_TRACEROUTE_USE_ICMP=y
 
 #
 # udhcp Server/Client

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Re: [leaf-devel] dynamic generation of dropbear keys if not present

2006-09-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

Good idea, will take a look.

Eric

Please consider applying this patch to dropbear.  It will dynamically
create the dropbear host key files if they don't exist.  This is EXTREMELY
useful for bringup from scratch.  If you don't have access to the serial
port, at least you can ssh into the box.  I wish I had had it today.

With this change, there is no need for gendropbearkeys anymore.




rm gendropbearkeys
cvs rm gendropbearkeys

Index: buildtool.cfg
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/leaf/src/bering-uclibc/apps/dropbear/buildtool.cfg,v
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -r1.9 buildtool.cfg
--- buildtool.cfg  26 Jun 2006 17:56:31 -  1.9
+++ buildtool.cfg  8 Sep 2006 04:54:58 -
@@ -17,12 +17,6 @@
   Directory = dropbear
 /File
 
-File gendropbearkeys
-  Server = cvs-sourceforge
-  Revision = HEAD
-  Directory = dropbear
-/File
-
 File dropbear.init
   Server = cvs-sourceforge
   Revision = HEAD
@@ -99,12 +93,6 @@
   Type= link
   /File 
   File  
-  Source  = usr/bin/gendropbearkeys
-  Filename= usr/bin/gendropbearkeys
-  Type= binary
-  Permissions = 755
-  /File 
-  File  
   Filename= etc/dropbear
   Type= directory
   Type= local
Index: dropbear.init
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/leaf/src/bering-uclibc/apps/dropbear/dropbear.init,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 dropbear.init
--- dropbear.init  1 Jul 2004 14:40:54 -   1.1
+++ dropbear.init  8 Sep 2006 04:54:58 -
@@ -20,10 +20,12 @@
 
 if [ -n $DB_RSAFILE ]; then
   DB_OPTIONS=$DB_OPTIONS -r $DB_RSAFILE
+  test -f $DB_RSAFILE || dropbearkey -t rsa $DB_RSAFILE
 fi
 
 if [ -n $DB_DSSFILE ]; then
   DB_OPTIONS=$DB_OPTIONS -d $DB_DSSFILE
+  test -f $DB_DSSFILE || dropbearkey -t dss $DB_DSSFILE
 fi
 
 if [ -n $DB_BANNER ]; then

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Re: [leaf-devel] dynamic modules building idea

2006-09-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

Sounds interesting, but you can also unpack the modules tarball on 
one of the storage media, mount it and load the modules directly from 
there (some examples in the /etc/modules file).

But I like this idea, it's very easy this way to create or update a 
moddb on a running system.

Eric

I don't know how popular this is going to be, but I'll toss it out anyway.

For 99% of leaf users, storage is no longer ultra critical.  This idea 
is not meant to eliminate the current way of doing things (for those 
folks who really are tight on secondary storage, things stay the same), 
but I'd like to make a modest proposal.

If a file on the boot media called modules.tgz (or 
Bering-uClibC-modules-2.4.33.tar.gz for the ISO image) is present, 
extract the required modules from that file in realtime, on boot.  That 
way we're not saving  storing custom moddb.lrps if all the modules that 
would normally be in that file are already in the default distribution.

It's fairly trivial, I wrote some shell code in realtime to do it 
because I needed to populate /lib/modules for my box.  I like this idea 
better (or as an alternate to the web based stuff Arne did) because I 
know the source of my modules and keep them in exact sync with the kernel.

The code I kinda cobbled together in realtime did something like this. 
This is just for an example, it is not productized or tested...


# generate a list of module names
modules=`sed -e 's/#.*//' -e 's/[^tab ].*//' -e '/^[tab ]*$/d' 
/etc/modules`

mkdir /tmp/mods.$$
cd /tmp/mods.$$
zcat /mnt/Bering-uClibc-2.4.33.tar.gz | tar xf -
for file in $modules ; do
 fn=`find /tmp/mods.$$ -name ${file}.o`
 if [ ! -f /lib/modules/`basename $fn` ] ; then
   echo -n Extracting $fn
   cp $fn /lib/modules
   echo .
 fi
done
cd /tmp
rm -rf /tmp/mods.$$


Obviously, it should be done with tar -X so we don't fill up /tmp with a 
bunch of memory resident crap that is just going away, but that's tbd 
only if this sounds interesting to the B-U community.

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Re: [leaf-devel] example 'build modules' engine...

2006-09-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

A few comments:
-We do have tar -X, so you can use that. Take a look at the apkg upgrade
code for an example.
-The hardcoded name of the modules repository is somewhat ugly, maybe you
can do something with uname to find the kernel version.

Eric

 Here's what I was talking about...  this is the core engine, obviously
 it should take some command arguments, and make some intelligent guesses
 about where .lrp files exist (stealing from apkg/lrcfg), but I wanted to
 show actual working code to make this a non-academic pitch.

 Even if folks don't like the idea of dynamic modules extraction at start,
  this is a useful tool in its current condition for building up your
 modules on demand and saving them with lrcfg.

 Regards,


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Re: [leaf-devel] initial 3.0 beta feedback

2006-09-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

should we be saving /var/lib/random-seed in configdb?

Ok, understand the question. Yes, it should be saved ;-)

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Re: [leaf-devel] patch: enable traceroute in busybox

2006-09-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

 Speaking of busybox, I noticed that you're linking busybox to its linked
 commands with symbolic links instead of hardlinks.  Using hardlinks should
 be more memory and space efficient *if* using a symbolic link takes up an
 inode in the filesystem in memory/on disk.  Unfortunately, my memory is
 too foggy to remember exactly which filesystems symbolic links take inodes
 in vs directory entries.

I think with tmpfs it doesn't matter, but am not 100% sure about it.

 Having argument processing is indeed nice, but automatically finding
 boot media is not really necessary in my opinion. It doesn't need to be a
 fully automatic process. If you just mount the device and something like
 'loadmod /mnt/Bering-uClibc-2.4.33.tar.gz' it should
 be enough for a start.

 OK, then you're welcome to add this to the distribution. :-)
 Feel free to bang on it.

A few comments:
-Why don't you use tar -X to extract the correct modules? Now you untar
the complete modules repository which is ~8 Mbyte compressed. This takes a
lot of time (especially on slow systems, and if /tmp isn't big enough
runs out of memory.
-MODLIST is always /etc/modules, so no real need to have a variable for
it. MODREPO is probably always different so no need to have a default for
it and LIBMOD is always /lib/modules so also no real need for a variable.

But I really like the idea, it could also be used for the CD-ROM image
instead of using all kinds of mount, umount and dir commands in
/etc/modules.

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Re: [leaf-devel] yet another functionality request for 3.0 - ancillary file storage .lrp

2006-09-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

 The 2.x distribution had one particularly nice feature that I'd like to
 see reimplemented in 3.x.  From the looks of it, saving the config
 currently only checks the collection of config files enumerated in
 /var/lib/lrpkg/*.config.

Nope, it checks the sha1sums of the files listed in /var/lib/lrpkg/*.local


 There are times when I need ancillary scripts and crap on the router and
 don't have them in a package format (and don't want them in their own
 separate package), but there's no way to save them between reboots.

 For example, when I'm working on tools like the modules building script,
 or if I'm doing some lightweight firewalling and don't want to use
 shorewall, I might just have a simple script in /usr/bin or /etc/init.d
 respectively.

 It would be cool if we could have a local.lrp similar to configdb and
 moddb that contained any extra files not explicitly enumerated in the
 loaded packages package lists (obviously excluding /dev and /var and any
 other random generated crap).  We used to have a local.lrp that covered
 everthing in /usr/local, but honestly that was a bit limiting anyway (my
 local stuff inevitably got saved in the 2.x etc.lrp).

Please take a look at the local.lrp package of 3.x, it has a new
functionality. You can list the added files that you want to save. Before
use check the help file of local.lrp.


 If there's no official behavior for this currently (I could be blind,
 I'm cutting over to 3.x at high speed and not reading docs all that
 well), would you mind if I created something?  Do you have opinions about
 how it should behave?

Eric


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Re: [leaf-devel] runtime fixup of /etc/inittab for serial consoles

2006-09-05 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

Sorry for the delay getting back to you, just got back from a week on 
the playa lighting up dust storms with 2.4 and 5.8ghz wifi... :-)

;-)

 The reason I'm not really enthusiastic about this idea is that it adds a
 new dependency between sylinux, initrd and the etc package and also adds
 extra complexity to the linuxrc script. Something that I like to avoid as
 much as possible, because, for example, makes a change to a different
 kernel more difficult.

Not really, or not as I understand it.  It's looking at /proc/cmdline, 
which is going to have the console port specified on it if a serial
console is chosen, unless someone makes source code changes to the 
kernel or is running a non x86 kernel, neither of which are B-U worries 
until the cross compilation environment works. :-)  As far as I can 
tell, there is no dependency on initrd, or syslinux at all.  I would do 
the same thing running grub or any other kind of boot loader.

What I mean is that a setting in the bootloader is parsed via linuxrc 
in the initrd to change a file in the etc package. With changing to a 
different kernel I mean from linuxrc/initrd to 
initramfs.

If you're going to actually publish and maintain hardware specific 
configdb's, then what I'm proposing is not necessary.  However, I've 
become a big fan of having code just do the right thing when the right 
thing is fairly obvious and considered this in the same vein as my 
runtime patch to figure out that the keyboard controller wasn't present. 

I'm also a big of just do the right thing, but in the case of your 
kernel patch the solution was a lot cleaner and more generic. For 
example ttyS2 is not taken into account, which also needs a change in 
/etc/securetty.

  Just a year ago you were compiling (or not, as the case was) special 
kernels for the WRAP unit when all we needed was a one line test in the 
kernel to support a runtime fix.  The serial console stuff is currently 
the one thing getting in the way of just copying the .lrp files over and 
having them run.

 An advantage of using some hardware specific configdb packages is that you
 can also set some other standard options, like selecting the right modules
 in /etc/modules, some network options and comment out the normal ttys.

I was going to ask you what configdb things you would do for hardware 
specific changes besides fixing inittab.  Frankly, a HW specific 
distribution with pre-populated moddb's wouldn't be awful.

A few things that could be done in a HW specific configdb/moddb in 
the case of a WRAP f.e. is setting the serial console, disabling 
normal consoles, selecting the wd1100 module with the right 
parameters and the correct NIC module.

Eric

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Re: [leaf-devel] latest cvs checkout does not compile

2006-08-28 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

It's probably your version of jade. Try to change libusb buildtool.mk file
like this:

Change:
./configure)
 to
./configure --disable-build-docs)

Eric

 Hi


 Maybe I blew it again, altough I thought upgrading my development
 environment was easy

 - I checked out the latest cvs version to an existing tree
 - I ran 'buildtool.pl build', hoping the dependencies would be solved
 correctly


 
 
 build source/package: libusb 
 calling 'make build' for libusb make build failed for
 /data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/source/
 libusb/buildtool.mk , please have a look at the logfile log/buildtoollog
 at buildtool/Make/Source.pm line 398.

 logfile contents:

 Making all in doc
 make[3]: Entering directory
 `/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/source/
 libusb/libusb-0.1.12/doc' rm -rf html mkdir html jade -t sgml -d
 ./website.dsl\#html ./manual.sgml
 jade:./manual.sgml:1:55:W: cannot generate system identifier for public
 text -//OASIS//DTD DocBook V4.2//EN jade:./manual.sgml:10:0:E: reference
 to entity BOOK for which no system identifier could be generated
 jade:./manual.sgml:1:0: entity was defined here
 jade:./manual.sgml:10:0:E: DTD did not contain element declaration for
 document type name jade:./manual.sgml:12:9:E: there is no attribute ID
 ..


 much more output in the logfile

 cheers

 Erich


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Re: [leaf-devel] latest cvs checkout does not compile

2006-08-28 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

 It's probably your version of jade.


 Most probably. I did not run buildenv this time, is there a new version
 of jade built in the buildenv?

No, this source uses jade from your hostsystem if it exists. It probably
exists on your system and found by libusb's configure script. But somehow
your jade version doesn't understand some of libusb's code. This is a
libusb problem.


 Try to change libusb buildtool.mk file like this:

 Change:
 ./configure)
 to ./configure --disable-build-docs)

 This helped, rerunning buildenv was not sufficient.

I will make this change in CVS also.


 BTW. does anyone know why S/MIME signed messages are _not_ showing up on
 the list?

 Thanks


 Erich

Eric


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Re: [leaf-devel] Shorewall 3.3.0

2006-08-28 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Tom,

That's great news! Thank you very much!

Eric Spakman

 I have opened up the 3.3 development thread.


 http://www1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/development/3.3/shorewall-3.3.0
 ftp://ftp1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/development/3.3/shorewall-3.3.0


 The two major changes in 3.3.0 when compared to 3.2.3 are:


 a) I have finished the code consolidation that I began in 3.2.3. Code
 that was duplicated in /usr/share/shorewall/compiler and
 /usr/share/shorewall/firewall is
 now moved to /usr/share/shorewall/functions. This change will also go into
 3.2.4.


 b) To allow embedded applications to further reduce the Shorewall
 footprint, I have broken off sizable pieces of code into loadable
 libraries. This will
 allow a small Shorewall core footprint that may be expanded through the
 addition of libraries as needed.

 Here are the libraries included in 3.3.0:


 -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep users  5686 2006-08-27 13:22 lib.accounting
 -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep users 10409 2006-08-27 11:42 lib.dynamiczones
 -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep users  7004 2006-08-27 14:01 lib.maclist
 -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep users 14055 2006-08-27 12:42 lib.nat
 -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep users 10879 2006-08-27 12:13 lib.providers
 -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep users  3519 2006-08-27 12:50 lib.proxyarp
 -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep users  9466 2006-08-27 11:42 lib.tc
 -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep users  8218 2006-08-27 12:28 lib.tcrules
 -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep users  6881 2006-08-27 13:26 lib.tunnels


 See the release notes for information about when each library is
 required.

 Although change b) adds code to Shorewall, change a) reduced the size of
 Shorewall to such an extent that 3.3.0 is still substantially smaller than
 3.2.3:


 -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep users 234309 2006-08-26 10:54 shorewall-3.2.3.tgz
 -rw-r--r-- 1 teastep users 217330 2006-08-28 12:35 shorewall-3.3.0.tgz


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Re: [leaf-devel] runtime fixup of /etc/inittab for serial consoles

2006-08-27 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

 What it saves them from having to do is hand mess with etc.lrp on a
 second system the very first time they load the flash.

 There is absolutly no need for that. We will release some specific
 configdb packages for certain types of hardware, so it's just a matter of
 copying the right configdb package to the storage media and of you go.

 OK, fair enough, if the console speed and everything else is the same.
 I'm not sure I understand the reluctance to using this idea, but since
 I'm not the one stuck doing maintenance, it's wrong of me to continue to
 try to argue with you.  Sorry for being a pain in the ass--I re-read my
 last message and the tone is not what I intended.

The reason I'm not really enthusiastic about this idea is that it adds a
new dependency between sylinux, initrd and the etc package and also adds
extra complexity to the linuxrc script. Something that I like to avoid as
much as possible, because, for example, makes a change to a different
kernel more difficult.

An advantage of using some hardware specific configdb packages is that you
can also set some other standard options, like selecting the right modules
in /etc/modules, some network options and comment out the normal ttys.

I will keep your idea in mind.

 Best and thanks,

 Paul

Regards,
Eric


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Re: [leaf-devel] webconf backup packages

2006-08-26 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Kp,


Hi;

thx - I'm running latest from cvs and see:

grep: /etc/init.d/init.d: No such file or directory grep: /etc/init.d/init.d: 
No such file or directory

At the end of various (each?) daemon description - e.g. dnsmasq.

I don't think this is intended.

Did you also used the latest webconf.lwp package? The daemon start/
stop script is part of the lwp package.

kp

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Re: [leaf-devel] runtime fixup of /etc/inittab for serial consoles

2006-08-26 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

Hmmm, not sure. I find it a bit of a clutch. What happens if an user 
edit the inittab for other changes like mgetty?

I prefer specific configdb/sylinux.cfg for different hardware where 
also other changes can be done.

Eric


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#!/bin/sh

inittab=/etc/inittabX
proto=/etc/inittabX.proto

if [ -f $inittab ] ; then
exit 0
fi  

if [ ! -f $proto ] ; then
echo $0: $proto not missing
exit 1
fi


contty=`sed -e 's/.*console=\([^, ]*\).*/\1/' /proc/cmdline`
if [ -z $contty ] ; then
contty=unspecified
speed=38400
else
speed=`sed -e 's/.*console=[^, ]*,\([0-9]*\) .*/\1/' /proc/cmdline`
if [ -z $speed ] ; then
speed=9600
fi
fi

sed -e s/^#${contty} #\(.*\) speed \(.*\)/\1 ${speed} \2/ $proto  
$inittab
chown root:root $inittab
chmod 644 $inittab

exit 0

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# /etc/inittab: init(8) configuration.
# $Id: inittab,v 1.1 2004/10/14 19:09:29 espakman Exp $

# The default runlevel.
id:2:initdefault:

# Boot-time system configuration/initialization script.
# This is run first except when booting in emergency (-b) mode.
si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS

# What to do in single-user mode.
~~:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin

# /etc/init.d executes the S and K scripts upon change
# of runlevel.
#
# Runlevel 0 is halt.
# Runlevel 1 is single-user.
# Runlevels 2-5 are multi-user.
# Runlevel 6 is reboot.

l0:0:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 0
l1:1:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 1
l2:2:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 2
l3:3:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 3
l4:4:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 4
l5:5:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 5
l6:6:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 6

# Normally not reached, but fallthrough in case of emergency.
#z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin

# What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed.
#ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -r now

# Action on special keypress (ALT-UpArrow).
kb::kbrequest:/bin/echo Keyboard Request--edit /etc/inittab to let this work.

# What to do when the power fails/returns.
pf::powerwait:/etc/init.d/powerfail start
pn::powerfailnow:/etc/init.d/powerfail now
po::powerokwait:/etc/init.d/powerfail stop

# /sbin/getty invocations for the runlevels.
#
# The id field MUST be the same as the last
# characters of the device (after tty).
#
# Format:
#  id:runlevels:action:process
#unspecified #1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty speed tty1 
#2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
#3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
#4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
#5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
#6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6

# Example how to put a getty on a serial line (for a terminal)
#
#ttyS0 #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 speed vt100
#ttyS1 #T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS1 speed vt100

# Example how to put a getty on a modem line.
#
#T3:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -x0 -s 57600 ttyS3

#Example how to run portslave
#
#T0:23:respawn:+/usr/sbin/portslave 0
#T1:23:respawn:+/usr/sbin/portslave 1
#T2:23:respawn:+/usr/sbin/portslave 2
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Re: [leaf-devel] runtime fixup of /etc/inittab for serial consoles

2006-08-26 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

A real /etc/inittab is always present, it's part of the etc.lrp 
package...

Eric

Look at the script.  If a real /etc/inittab is present, it doesn't do  
its magic.
It only does it if the proto is present and /etc/inittab is not.

This is one of the most annoying things for a new user to fix if they  
don't have a linux system handy.

I would call it, or hook it into /var/lib/lrpkg/root.whatever that  
script is called that gets executed before /sbin/init.  The script  
that loads all the packages at boot time...


On Aug 26, 2006, at 1:49 AM, Eric Spakman wrote:

 Hi Paul,

 Hmmm, not sure. I find it a bit of a clutch. What happens if an user
 edit the inittab for other changes like mgetty?

 I prefer specific configdb/sylinux.cfg for different hardware where
 also other changes can be done.

 Eric


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 name=fixup_inittab.sh
 Content-Disposition: attachment;
 filename=fixup_inittab.sh

 #!/bin/sh

 inittab=/etc/inittabX
 proto=/etc/inittabX.proto

 if [ -f $inittab ] ; then
exit 0
 fi

 if [ ! -f $proto ] ; then
echo $0: $proto not missing
exit 1
 fi


 contty=`sed -e 's/.*console=\([^, ]*\).*/\1/' /proc/cmdline`
 if [ -z $contty ] ; then
contty=unspecified
speed=38400
 else
speed=`sed -e 's/.*console=[^, ]*,\([0-9]*\) .*/\1/' /proc/ 
 cmdline`
if [ -z $speed ] ; then
speed=9600
fi
 fi

 sed -e s/^#${contty} #\(.*\) speed \(.*\)/\1 ${speed} \2/  
 $proto  $inittab
 chown root:root $inittab
 chmod 644 $inittab

 exit 0

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 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
 x-unix-mode=0644;
 name=inittabX.proto
 Content-Disposition: attachment;
 filename=inittabX.proto

 # /etc/inittab: init(8) configuration.
 # $Id: inittab,v 1.1 2004/10/14 19:09:29 espakman Exp $

 # The default runlevel.
 id:2:initdefault:

 # Boot-time system configuration/initialization script.
 # This is run first except when booting in emergency (-b) mode.
 si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS

 # What to do in single-user mode.
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Re: [leaf-devel] runtime fixup of /etc/inittab for serial consoles

2006-08-26 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Paul,

Not if it's not.  You're the software developer,  you make the  
distribution etc.lrp.  The whole point of this thing is to get people  
running with a working console.  Once they're on their feet, i.e. if  
they edit the /etc/inittab or do a backup after the real inittab is  
working, things behave just as before.

What it saves them from having to do is hand mess with etc.lrp on a  
second system the very first time they load the flash.

There is absolutly no need for that. We will release some specific 
configdb packages for certain types of hardware, so it's just a 
matter of copying the right configdb package to the storage media and 
of you go.

Eric


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Re: [leaf-devel] webconf backup packages

2006-08-25 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Nathan,

Thank you very much!

 Hi Eric,


 I just posted the source and binary versions of webconf.lrp and
 webconf.lwp. Your changes to lrcfg.back.cgi were heroic.

:)))

 I decided to
 shortcut the whole thing and make webconf (backup, at least) work with
 Bering uClibc *only*.
 (Since Bering uClibc is the only one being updated at this point, the
 above statement should only affect Bering uClibc installations.)

 lrcfg.back.cgi makes a backup of the configdb and moddb; rather than go
 through the multiple layers of cruft in lrcfg.back.script, it uses apkg
 -o
 and apkg -d directly.

Yes, that's a much better choice.
Compared to the previous version of the lrcfg.back.script a lot of the
layers of cruft where already removed (and only some verbosity levels
with backup are kept), but for webconf it's much saner to call apkg
directly. A big improvement!

 It uses /var/lib/lrpkg/backup to find the names of the configdb and
 moddb, so you should be able to backup to the primary backup device with
 whatever name is set in the backup file.

Perfect!

 All of that simplifies the interface considerably... Now its just 2
 checkboxes and a backup button. ;-)

 I did a cvs update this morning, so I *think* i got your change from
 earlier this morning...If I missed anything else, please let me know.

I just checked and everything looks ok.

 I have a new webconf source tarball ready to go when you all think this
 is good enough for the buildconfig.  Give the word and I'll upload it and
 make the buildconfig changes necessary to build webconf.lrp.

Ofcourse it's good enough ;) Thanks!

Eric

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Re: [leaf-devel] new config/backup system

2006-08-21 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Natanael,

 Couple of questions, while we're doing the 3.0 flag day, would it be OK
  if we made the package dependancies explicit, not part of the help
 file?

 /var/lib/apkg/packagename.depend


 I have this implemented in apk-tools. Take a look there how it can be
 implemented and feel free to reuse the code if possible.

 http://apk-tools.sourceforge.net


 (use svn version. I have made some progress since latest oficial
 release)

Thanks for the heads-up, I will take a look.

snip

 I propose modifying the XML to formalize the dependancies instead of
 putting them in the help file, and creating packagename.depend control
  files.

 What do you guys think?


 Its relatively easy to automatically find out the dependencies.


 find [ all elf files ] | while read elffile ; do for so in `readelf -d
 $elffile |\
 grep NEEDED |\ sed 's/.*Shared library: //; s/\[\(.*\)\]/\1/'` ; do

 dep=`find_lrp_that_has_file $so` add_dependency $dep done done

 So you shouldn't need to figure out all dependencies by hand.

Ok, thanks! That should be easy implementable in buildtool.


 --
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Re: [leaf-devel] GNU Compliance (section 3) - are you compliant??

2006-07-18 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Mike,

Op Di, 18 juli, 2006 5:25 pm schreef David Douthitt:
 Mike Noyes wrote:


 Everyone,
 We need to release source tarballs in the SF FRS with our binaries.


 How does this affect distributions that are not being actively
 maintained?

 I agree with Luis, though - the storage requirements for SF are going to
 be incredible...

I also agree with Luis and took a look at that article again.

Quoted:
Under GPL version 2, distributors who release binaries through a network
server have to release the corresponding source code in the same way. This
requirement is the only way to assure that users can get the source, and
the that it is the right source.

Me interpreting it as:
The Bering-uClibc team releases binaries through a network server and also
releases the source code the same way. Although for a few very big
sources, like gcc, uClibc and kernel we do this with a link from the
network server to an other server. I still see this as fitting the above
description (but English is not my native language).

Following quote:
The simplest way to fulfill this requirement is to put them both on the
same server. This requires extra work, but not much. The distibutor needs
server space for the source as well as the binary, and has to upload both.
Anyone that does these things for the binary can manage to do them for the
source as well.

Note the word simplest way, this is not the _only_ way. I still don't
think that there is a problem.

The reason why this whole GPL thing is brought up I think, is because some
distros use packages from other upstream distros (like f.e. Knoppix using
Debian packages). In those cases sourcecode is not provided because no
changes where made to the plain Debian packages and are used as is for
Knoppix (just an example).

In the case of Bering-uClibc we build everything from source and the
sourcecode, patches, makefiles are all available in CVS or with direct
links (the links only in few cases to not blow up sourceforge). So I
still don't see a problem...

To answer David: I think this whole story only applies for distros still
being maintained (with a limit of 3 years).

Eric


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Re: [leaf-devel] GNU Compliance (section 3) - are you compliant??

2006-07-18 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Mike,

KP,
My interpretation of Stallman's comments leads me to believe those
sources are considered up-stream. I hope I'm wrong.

My interpretation: If you release binaries, you must maintain
source availability for three years. You may not rely on other
projects to do it for you.

Even if you are right, it would only count for the linux source. We 
only use binutils and gcc to build the toolchain, we don't provide 
gcc or binutils binaries.

I don't think it would ever be a problem to find a specific linux 
source ;-)

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Re: [leaf-devel] new config system

2006-07-15 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Cedric,

 No, it is already listed in image/fd/filelist
 The ISO simply contains all packages found in $PKGDIR (no hard wired

 list)

 Ok, so an exception should be made for the moddb package.



 Here is my patch to add moddb.lrp in bootdisk.ima and hide it from the
 ISO
 : http://leaf.newel.net/~cedric/work_in_progress/moddb.patch

Thank you very much! I will apply the patch.


 BTW, shouldn't we remove files which are on bootdisk.ima from the iso ?
 They
 are not really useful there.

Agree, although they can be usefull as backup (initrd) if you ever replace
the initrd on the floppy.


 Regards,
 Cedric

Regards,
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Re: [leaf-devel] new config system

2006-07-14 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Cedric,

 Hello list,


 With new config system, only one instance of a package is installed, the
 last one from PKGPATH sources.

 That is coherent with packages not splitted anymore between pristine and
 local. On the other hand, if PKGPATH=floppy,cdrom and there is moddb.lrp on
 both, the installed one is from cdrom. So no locally added modules are
 installable at boot !

There shouldn't be 2 modules databases installed.

 PKGPATH scanning order should be inverted, at least for moddb, or multi
  should be reverted.

I'm not sure, the modules database is a central repository, having multile
of them would only make things difficult and nonconsistent. A better
option would be to give the modules package on the cdrom a different name
and load it as a normal lrp package. Note that all modules will be saved
in the moddb package, so the concept of locally added modules doesn't
exist anymore, the modules database is a repository of all kernel modules.


 Regards,
 Cedric

Regards,
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Re: [leaf-devel] new config system

2006-07-14 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Cedric,

 There shouldn't be 2 modules databases installed.


Yes.
So for a cdrom/floppy distrib, the standard moddb used for the first boot
should be already on the floppy and no moddb should exist on the iso.

Correct, ofcourse you can have an unpacked modules repository on the 
CD, which can be used by mounting it and setting the path in /etc/
modules.

snip

As my iso was already built, I've worked around it by renaming the one from
floppy to mymoddb.lrp, added moddb to LRP list and changed MODDB to mymoddb
in leaf.cfg

That will also work.

I will rename buildtool generated moddb to something like stdmoddb on the
iso.

I think the ISO package list file in buildtool (to generate the CD) 
still has the moddb listed, I will change it so it wil be added on 
the floppy instead.

Thanks for reporting.

Regards,
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Re: [leaf-devel] new config system

2006-07-14 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Cedric,

 Correct, ofcourse you can have an unpacked modules repository on the
 CD, which can be used by mounting it and setting the path in /etc/
 modules.

That's what I do but it doesn't work with modules loaded by init.d scripts
(ipsec, gpio)

Yes, I think the same is true for pcmcia. It has always been the case.
 Luckely it are only a few exceptions. The preferred way is to put 
all used modules in moddb, the mount 'trick' is just a convenient 
option.

An option you could try is not using the moddb package but mount the 
modules directory on the CD as /lib/modules, or make a symlink to it.

I think the ISO package list file in buildtool (to generate the CD)
 still has the moddb listed, I will change it so it wil be added on
 the floppy instead.


No, it is already listed in image/fd/filelist
The ISO simply contains all packages found in $PKGDIR (no hard wired list)

Ok, so an exception should be made for the moddb package.


Regards,
Cedric

Regards,
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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-10 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

The problem on the shorewall site is solved now, the www.shorewall.net
link works correct again.

Cheers,
Eric

Op Zo, 9 juli, 2006 11:40 am schreef Erich Titl:
 Hi Eric


 Eric Spakman wrote:

 Hi Erich,


 I think it's a temporary problem on shorewall's main site. I will
 keep an eye on it and change to an other site if the problem persist.

 Thanks for reporting.



 By modifying the buildtool.cfg file for shorewall to make it point to
 www1.shorewall.net instead of www.shorewall.net the problem can be dealt
 with.

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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi everybody,


 some of you may have seen my odyssey getting a buildenv for uClibc up and
 running. With lots of help and patience by Eric Spakman I finally got the
 CVS HEAD to compile without barfing on my SuSE 9.2 .

 Now the 2.4.2 tagged release is not as gentle, as it still contains some
 of the glitches I have seen on the HEAD release.

 I would suggest to fix those issues and add another tag (I suggest
 2.4.2-user-friendly ;-) ) so we have a stable 2.4.x final source platform.

 cheers
 Erich

The issues should be fixed and I moved the tag to the later revision of
the files in CVS. So getting the 2.4.2 tagged release should now include
the fixed files involved.

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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

 Thank you, I will fetch them probably tonight and have them run.


 I believe though, that after these modifications it is in the best
 interest to tag these files as 2.4.3 and release them accordingly, as
 _they_were_modified_


 What do you think?

The changes in buildtool don't touch the packages at all, they are only to
solve some compile problems on some hosts. Compiling before and after the
small changes would give the exact same packages, so creating a
Bering-uClibc-2.4.3 release with no changes at all would make no sense to
me (which would be the implication if we create a 2.4.3 tag in CVS).

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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

I will download the current 2.4.2 tonight and see how it runs on my
environment.

Thanks!

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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-08 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

I think it's a temporary problem on shorewall's main site. I will 
keep an eye on it and change to an other site if the problem persist.

Thanks for reporting.

Eric 

Eric

Eric Spakman wrote:
 Hi Erich,
 
 I will download the current 2.4.2 tonight and see how it runs on my
 environment.


The shorewall site apparently changend to

ftp://ftp1.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall


buildtool::Download::setDlroot:setting dlroot to :
/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/2.4.2/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/source/shorewall
buildtool::Download::download:file key: buildtool.mk
buildtool::Download::download:file key: shorewall-lrp.diff
buildtool::Download::download:file key: shorewall-config.diff
buildtool::Download::download:file key: shorewall-default
buildtool::Download::download:file key: shorewall-3.0.7.tgz
--20:52:28--
http://www.shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/3.0/shorewall-3.0.7/shorewall-3.0.7.tgz
   =
`/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/2.4.2/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/source/shorewall/shorewall-3.0.7.tgz'
Resolving www.shorewall.net... 64.182.120.101
Connecting to www.shorewall.net|64.182.120.101|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location:
ftp://shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/3.0/shorewall-3.0.7/shorewall-3.0.7.tgz
[following]
--20:52:29--
ftp://shorewall.net/pub/shorewall/3.0/shorewall-3.0.7/shorewall-3.0.7.tgz
   =
`/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/2.4.2/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/source/shorewall/shorewall-3.0.7.tgz'
Resolving shorewall.net... 208.184.5.39
Connecting to shorewall.net|208.184.5.39|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
== SYST ... done.== PWD ... done.
== TYPE I ... done.  == CWD /pub/shorewall/3.0/shorewall-3.0.7 ...
No such directory `pub/shorewall/3.0/shorewall-3.0.7'.


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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-06 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Erich,

I tought about the same, but the strange thing is that HOST_COMPILE is
empty with the latest commit and $CC points to the crosscompiler (the
2.4.2 tag should be set to current HEAD). But I will take a look at it
this evening.

Erc

 Hello


 following up to my compile problems with wlan-ng in 2.4.2 I believe I
 found the culprit for this version in linux-wlan-Configure.patch.gz


 +# Debian mod: Allow CC to be specified to set the compiler.
 +if [ -z $CC ]; then
 +CC=gcc
 +fi
 +
 +
 dump_str 'HOST_AS=$(HOST_COMPILE)as'linux-wlan-Configure.patch.gz dump_str
 'HOST_LD=$(HOST_COMPILE)ld'
 -dump_str 'HOST_CC=$(HOST_COMPILE)gcc'
 +dump_str 'HOST_CC=$(HOST_COMPILE)'$CC


 it appears that $CC is set to /usr/bin/gcc at the time this patch is
 applied. Subsequently HOST_CC points to an invalid program location and
 the compile fails.

 IMHO if we want to achieve the right substitution we should



 if [ $CC ]; then dump_str HOST_CC=$CC else dump_str
 HOST_CC=$(HOST_COMPILE)gcc
 fi

 


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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-05 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

I will take a look at it, although I can't remember seeing this in my test...

Eric

 Eric


 some more information. Although wlan-ng appears to compile correctly, not
 all is well in config.mk

 CROSS_COMPILE=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/bui
 ldtool/staging/usr/bin/ CROSS_COMPILE_ENABLED=y
 AS=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/stagi
 ng/usr/bin/as
 LD=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/stag
 ing/usr/bin/ld
 CC=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/stag
 ing/usr/bin//data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/build
 tool/staging/usr/bin/gcc
 CPP=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/sta
 ging/usr/bin//data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buil
 dtool/staging/usr/bin/gcc -E
 AR=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/stagi
 ng/usr/bin/ar
 NM=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/stag
 ing/usr/bin/nm
 STRIP=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/s
 taging/usr/bin/strip
 OBJCOPY=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool
 /staging/usr/bin/objcopy
 OBJDUMP=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/
 staging/usr/bin/objdump
 RANLIB=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/
 staging/usr/bin/ranlib MAKE=make


 The entries for CROSS_COMPILE are broken


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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-04 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

Did you checkout the contrib section in CVS also?

The directory setserial seems to be missing in the path below:
/home/mega/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/2.4.2/src/bering-uclibc/contrib/buildtool.cfg

The setserial setup is an user added setup, so I can't say a lot about it.
Although with a quick look there doesn't seem anything wrong with it,
neither in sources.cfg nor in buildtool.cfg..

Eric

 Hi Folks


 according to KP's suggestion I focused on 2.4.2

 - checking out from CVS was a breeze


 I modified sources.cfg according to the doc


 - building buildenv was a breeze


 now the next command I entered to build everything

 ./buildtool.pl build


 resulted in the following  error

 source/package: setserial
 
 downloading: buildtool.cfg from server cvs-contrib-sourceforge type file
 download failed: file
 /home/mega/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/2.4.2/src/bering-uclibc/contrib/build
 tool.cfg does not exist

 you might find useful information in log/buildtoollog

 


 buildtool::Common::InstalledFile::searchInstalled4Pkg:starting
 buildtool::Common::InstalledFile::searchInstalled4Pkg:entry webipv6 not
 in source list buildtool::Common::InstalledFile::addEntry:pushing webipv6
 on list buildtool::Common::InstalledFile::writeToFile:starting
 buildtool::Common::InstalledFile::writeToFile:saving installedfile
 buildtool::Download::setDlroot:setting dlroot to :
 /data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/2.4.2/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/source/se
 tserial buildtool::Download::download:file key: buildtool.cfg


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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-04 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

 The directory setserial seems to be missing in the path below:
 /home/mega/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/2.4.2/src/bering-uclibc/contrib/buil
 dtool.cfg

 sure, I did not want to update this before I was certain, but the problem
 appears to be in a corrupted sources.cfg, where the setserial directory
 line was concatenated with the previous line.

 Will check if this is on the CVS itself

This is very well possible, I seem to remember that I fixed something like
this some time ago. Maybe after the 2.4.2 tag

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Re: [leaf-devel] Docs

2006-07-04 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Paul,

I fully agree, but unfortuanatly I can't do anything about it.

I hope Mike can give the status of PDF (and/or HTML) generation.

Eric

 -- Eric Spakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Paul,


 AFAIK pdf generation is still not ready... But you can checkout the XML
  document files from CVS:
 http://leaf.cvs.sourceforge.net/leaf/doc/guide/


 Eric


 OK, I can do that, although a tarball of HTML wouldn't require the user
 to have yet another program installed to read the download.  (As it happens
 I _don't_ have Acrobat installed.  I run an old, small LFS
 system rather than some modern kitchen-sink distro, so perhaps I'm more
 aware of what's installed and what's not.)  But then downloading what
 seemed most promising, and opening it on my Firefox-1.0.7 I got the error
 below.

 However, the point I was trying to make is that the uninitiated user
 trying to get a copy of leaf docs to read offline isn't directed anywhere
 that works.  (Somehow, forcing someone who needs the firewall to read the
 installation instructions on-line and exposed to attack doesn't seem to
 make a lot of sense.)  If you want him to get them from the CVS, point him
 there.


 XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
 Location: file:///home/paul/dl/Computing/SW/Linux/Bering-uClibc/book.xml
 Line Number 53, Column 148:div style=float: right; padding: 5px;a
 href=http://sourceforge.net;img
 src=/*docroot*/images/sourceforge_whitebg.gif alt=(logo) border=0
 width=136 height=79/a/div


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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-04 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

 Buildtool checks the link to the right uClibc loader when you start it
 (either 0.9.20 or 0.9.28), it's not possible to do two simultanious
 builds for two different environments. So don't ;))

 But these are unrelated processes, with unrelated buildtool perl
 sources, libraries and environment

 :-(

Not entirely, some sources are broken upstream for crosscompiling and
expect the loader to be in /lib (hardcoded). So the common process is
the link in /lib. Not much we can do about it, except fixing all broken
sources upstream and we don't have the time for it...

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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-04 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

 Not entirely, some sources are broken upstream for crosscompiling and
 expect the loader to be in /lib (hardcoded).

 ooops... OK, may I suggest to add this to the docs :-)

It already is in the docs ;-)
http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/bk07ch02s02.html
last alinea, the process is automatic now but the text still applies.

 Thanks for the explanation


 Will a new run fix this or will I have to set the referenced manually?

A new run should fix that.


 Erich

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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-04 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

 This is very well possible, I seem to remember that I fixed something
 like this some time ago. Maybe after the 2.4.2 tag

 :-)

In indeed did: source.cfg Revision 1.112 in CVS


 Boooh another one in building kernel


snip

 I have 2 builds running at the same time, one for latest and one for
 2.4.2


 Both builds live in completely different directories, no links,
 completely redundant.

 Is is possible, that the link to the uClibc libraries is rotten after
 starting the second build process?


Buildtool checks the link to the right uClibc loader when you start it
(either 0.9.20 or 0.9.28), it's not possible to do two simultanious builds
for two different environments. So don't ;))

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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-04 Thread Eric Spakman
Op Di, 4 juli, 2006 3:31 pm schreef Erich Titl:
 Eric


 feels like a never ending story, herre the latest from the HEAD checkout

snip


 -D__LINUX_WLAN__ ../shared/p80211types.c ../shared/p80211metamsg.c
 ../shared/p80211metamib.c ../shared/p80211meta.c  mkmetadef.c
 ../shared/p80211types.c ../shared/p80211metamsg.c
 ../shared/p80211metamib.c ../shared/p80211meta.c  mkmetastruct.c  .depend
  /bin/sh:
 /data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/staging/
 usr/bin//usr/bin/cc:
 No such file or directory
 make[3]: *** [.depend] Error 127
 make[3]: Leaving directory


This is in my log when I compile wlan-ng:

./shared/p80211meta.c  mkmetadef.c ../shared/p80211types.c
../shared/p80211metamsg.c ../shared/p80211metamib.c ../shared/p
80211meta.c  mkmetastruct.c  .depend
mkdir -p obj
/root/Bering/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/staging/usr/bin/gcc -c -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -I../in
clude
-I/root/Bering/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/source/linux/linux/include
-D__LINUX_WLAN__ ../shared/p80211types.c -o ob
j/p80211types.o


I really don't know where the usr/bin//usr/bin/cc: comes from, there is
no trace in the sourcecode of wlan-ng.

Did you change anything in the buildtool configuration, like TARGET_CC in
Masterinclude.mk or anything in wlan-ng's buildtool.mk? (just guessing)

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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-04 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

snip
 The problem is in the linux-wlan-ng-0.2.3 directory, where CC is
 redefined in config.mk

 luna  grep /usr/bin/cc * config.mk:HOST_CC=$(HOST_COMPILE)/usr/bin/cc
 config.mk:CC=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/build
 tool/staging/usr/bin//usr/bin/cc
 config.mk:CPP=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/bui
 ldtool/staging/usr/bin//usr/bin/cc -E
 config.out:HOST_CC=$(HOST_COMPILE)/usr/bin/cc
 config.out:CC=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/buil
 dtool/staging/usr/bin//usr/bin/cc
 config.out:CPP=/data/leaf/bering-uclibc/devel/latest/src/bering-uclibc/bu
 ildtool/staging/usr/bin//usr/bin/cc -E


 Well it looks like config.mk is rotten it defines HOST_CC in an awkward
 way. Is this a problem with autoconf?

I don't know... This is my config.mk with no cc entries...

config.mk:CC=/root/Bering/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/staging/usr/bin/gcc
config.mk:CPP=/root/Bering/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/staging/usr/bin/gcc -E
config.out:CC=/root/Bering/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/staging/usr/bin/gcc
config.out:CPP=/root/Bering/src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/staging/usr/bin/gcc
-E

I will change the buildtool.mk to explicit use the buildtool autoconf.

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Re: [leaf-devel] buildtool problems

2006-07-04 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

I just checked-in a slightly different version of wlan-ng's buildtool.mk,
this is more in line with other sources. Can you check this one to see if
it solves your problem?

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Re: [leaf-devel] Docs

2006-07-03 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Paul,

AFAIK pdf generation is still not ready... But you can checkout the XML
document files from CVS:
http://leaf.cvs.sourceforge.net/leaf/doc/guide/

Eric

 I went looking around the site for downloadable copies of the manuals for
  Bering-uClibc.  I found a link to a supposed PDF at the downloads on SF,
  but there didn't seem to be manuals there, just binaries.  Would TPTB
 consider tarring up all the manual pages into a couple downloadable files?


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Re: [leaf-devel] new tagged 2.4.2

2006-07-02 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Andrea,

Hi to all,

I successfully built a leaf bering uclibc usb stick with this tagged 
branch. I have now a working dropbear in a via mobo.

some things:

1) when I built the initrd package, I got an error, because busybox was 
configured without mkfs minix. I did enable it in the .config, rebuilt, 
and error went away

That's strange, the tagged 2.4.2 checkout should contain a busybox 
config with mkfs.minix enabled.

2) which is the best way now to have some modules loaded at boot time? I 
have via-rhine.o didn't find by myself a good place to load it

Just add them to initrd's buildtool.cfg, but why do you need via-
rhine at boottime? You can just add it to /etc/modules otherwise.

3) I would like to rebuild asterisk and bristuff packages, any advice 
now on creatinf devices with mknod and regarding cof files that usually 
live in /etc ? (asterisk has many)

Just add them to asterisk init.d script.

Instead of using the tagged 2.4.2 with uClibc-0.9.20, why not use the 
latest in CVS with 0.9.28?

Regards,
Andrea Fino

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Re: [leaf-devel] new tagged 2.4.2

2006-07-02 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

I don't know enough of CVS to see what goes wrong. You can try a 
fresh checkout of buildtool in a different directory.

EricS

Eric

Eric Spakman wrote:
...
 
 Instead of using the tagged 2.4.2 with uClibc-0.9.20, why not use the 
 latest in CVS with 0.9.28?

Tried to update buildenv with very little success

luna  ./buildtool.pl -f source buildenv
make the list of required source packages: buildenv [0.K.]

source/package: buildenv

downloading: buildtool.cfg from server cvs-sourceforge type viewcvs [0.K.]
downloading: buildtool.mk from server cvs-sourceforge type viewcvs [0.K.]
downloading: gcc-3.3.3.tar.bz2 from server gcc.mirror type ftp [0.K.]
downloading: uClibc_fopencookie.diff.gz from server cvs-sourceforge type
viewcvs [0.K.]
downloading: uClibc-path.patch.gz from server cvs-sourceforge type
viewcvs [0.K.]
downloading: uClibc-sigwait.patch.gz from server cvs-sourceforge type
viewcvs [0.K.]
downloading: binutils-2.14.tar.bz2 from server ftp.gnu.org type http [0.K.]
downloading: .config from server cvs-sourceforge type viewcvs [0.K.]
downloading: gcc-3.3-libstdc++nowchar.patch from server cvs-sourceforge
type viewcvs [0.K.]
downloading: uClibc-0.9.20.tar.gz from server kernel.org type http

This does not appear to update uClibc

-

removing source/buildenv/buildtool.cfg in the hope of forcing CVS to get
the latest version, including the new uClibc references

luna  sh -x src/checkout
+ export CVS_RSH=ssh
+ CVS_RSH=ssh
+ cvs -z3 -d:ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/leaf co
src/bering-uclibc/buildtool
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
? src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/build
? src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/log
? src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/package
? src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/source
? src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/staging
? src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/conf/.sources.cfg.swp
? src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/conf/sources.cfg.new
? src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/conf/trace
? src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/tools/.upxunpack
? src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/tools/upx-1.93-linux_i386
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/build
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/build/packages
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/build/staging_dir
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/build/tools
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/buildtool
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/buildtool/Clean
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/buildtool/Common
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/buildtool/DownloadTypes
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/buildtool/Make
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/conf
M src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/conf/buildtool.conf
M src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/conf/sources.cfg
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/doc
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/make
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/make/extra
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/make/old
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/sources
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/sources/dl
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/sources/doc
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/sources/kernel
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/sources/old
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/sources/skel
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/test
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/tools
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/tools/fd
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/tools/image
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/tools/image/fd
cvs checkout: Updating src/bering-uclibc/buildtool/tools/image/iso

No luck, buildenv/buildtool.cfg does not appear to be updated

Now what is the canonical way to update buildtool?

Thanks

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Re: [leaf-devel] beckup menu disappered

2006-06-30 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Andrea,

Hi all,

I have recently rebuilt the leaf bering base package (yesterday 29 
june), to test some modifications I did to the bristuff/asterisk 
package, and see if all go nicely with the new uclibc buildenv recently 
commited.

Well, when I go to the backup menu of this box, I got:

cat: /var/lib/lrpkg/backdisk: No such file or directory

The bad stuff is the all the backup menus are missing. Any hints?

You probably didn't update the config.lrp package. 
You can download the tagged 2.4.2 version of the complete buildenv, 
as Kp wrote. But if you want to use uClibc-0.9.28, your buildtool.cfg 
may need some small changes for the new config system. If you send me 
your buildtool.cfg file, I can make the changes for you if you like.

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Re: [leaf-devel] GNU Compliance (section 3) - are you compliant??

2006-06-30 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Mike,

 If you provide software to download the source then the link it points
 to _must_not_be_altered_.

 This is pretty sensible.


 Eric,
 That's the way I understood things also (linking to up-stream source was
 permissible when distributing unmodified binaries), but DSL and MEPIS were
 contacted by the FSF for doing exactly that.

 http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/23/1728205tid=150
 This obligation is specified even more strongly in section 10 of
 the draft for the third version of the GPL, which specifically states that
 downstream users (those who, like Woodford, adopt
 the work of another project -- the upstream distributor -- for their own
 use) fall under these obligations.

I still don't read that Bering-uClibc is not compliant, in the case of
MEPIS and DSL they use packages from other projects AFAIK. We create our
own binaries/packages from sources and patches we also provide and don't
adopt from other distributions.

I can't believe the restrictions are as tough as this, and if they are I
still think Bering-uClibc is compliant or can easely be made compliant.

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Re: [leaf-devel] openswan fix

2006-06-29 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Nataneal,

 I looked at the link and it appears to be a very old bug.


 So its fixed in newer versions of openswan?

No, the version used by Bering-uClibc is 2.4.5 which is the latest stable
version released only a few weeks ago and still has the bug.

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Re: [leaf-devel] apkg -u (upgrade)

2006-06-29 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Cedric,

Very interesting!

I still have some problems understanding how it exactly works ;)
Why is the following piece added?

else
tar -zxpf $pth
create_sha1 $pkg
fi

Regards
Eric



 I've implemented a simple upgrade command for apkg :
 non local files and pristine local files are overwritten, modified
 local files are preserved.

 Full script and patch against current CVS can be found at :
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Re: [leaf-devel] apkg -u (upgrade)

2006-06-29 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Cedric,

To reply to myself, I understand. If the package has no config files it
can just be installed.

A possible problem with this implementation is that programs that are
running (like daemons) are not stopped before and started after and
upgrade.

 I still have some problems understanding how it exactly works ;)
 Why is the following piece added?

 else tar -zxpf $pth create_sha1 $pkg fi


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Re: [leaf-devel] apkg -u (upgrade)

2006-06-29 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Cedric,

 A possible problem with this implementation is that programs that are

 running (like daemons) are not stopped before and started after and
 upgrade.


 Yes, we'd need some kind of preinst/postinst script to handle that.

Or look for an init.d file in the package, like done in webconf.

 There's also a problem with files which no longer exist (and should be
 removed), as we don't have a .list anymore (it may be created at
 install/upgrade time).

There is some code in linuxrc (currently commented out) that would create
a .list file on the fly. It's commented out because it would slow down
booting and cost memory.

But I'm not sure if it's needed. With a normal backup (save) it is
noticed that the file is gone and it would be removed from the configdb. I
didn't look close enough to your script, but if the sha1sums and .list are
correct a backup will remove the files that no longer exist.


 For the moment, it's mainly useful for developers
 who want to rapidly test their new version of a particular package without
 rebooting or manually editing the lrpkg/package file.


 Regards,
 Cedric


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Re: [leaf-devel] GNU Compliance (section 3) - are you compliant??

2006-06-29 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello David,

I'm not sure about other LEAF distributions, but the Bering-uClibc distro
has all sources, patches and config files of all programs in Sourceforge's
CVS. There may be a few ones linked from other sites, but they can be
added to CVS if needed.

But I do think that it may affect some other LEAF distro's...

Eric

 According to the latest news, it is being reported that the FSF is
 forcing all distributions to carry all source code, including spinoff
 distributions.  For example, that means that MEPIS must carry the source
 code to every program that they have released, not just those that they
 have changed - they cannot rely on the Ubuntu distribution on which they
 are based to carry the slack.

 Does this affect us or any member distributions?


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Re: [leaf-devel] openswan fix

2006-06-28 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Cedric,

Thanks for your fix! I will commit it to CVS and also update the current
ipsec package in CVS.

Regards,
Eric



 Issuing the command ipsec auto --status while there is no tunnel will
 trigger a uclibc only bug in openswan (it blindly mallocs 0 bytes)

 more info at
 http://bugs.xelerance.com/view.php?id=627http://bugs.xelerance.com/view.
 php?id=627

 patch and updated buildtool.cfg/buildtool.mk can be found at
 http://leaf.newel.net/~cedric/work_in_progress/openswan/
 http://leaf.newel.net/%7Ecedric/work_in_progress/openswan/



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Re: [leaf-devel] openswan fix

2006-06-28 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Natanael,

 Issuing the command ipsec auto --status while there is no tunnel will
  trigger a uclibc only bug in openswan (it blindly mallocs 0 bytes)

 does it affect openswan on a 2.6 kernel too?

It looks like it, the malloc problem is in an openswan userspace tool and
has to do with a different SUSV3 interpretation of malloc(0) between
uClibc and Glibc.

 more info at
 http://bugs.xelerance.com/view.php?id=627http://bugs.xelerance.com/vie
 w.php?id=627

 The link showed a blank page. I'm interested in info about this bug.

I can see the link, but it also points to an other page with more info:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.freeswan.user/7627

Regards,
Eric


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Re: [leaf-devel] mknod and .lwp

2006-06-27 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Andrea,

 I did find the webconf sources in source/webconf ? But I still don't
 understand in which way these files that I found on a bering uclib image
 are created:

 webconf.lwp keyboard.lwp dropbear.lwp

They are created by the buildlrps script in
http://leaf.cvs.sourceforge.net/leaf/src/config/webconf/

You don't need the webconf.lrp part in that script, it's already converted
to buildtool. But for the lwp files the script still do.

You could also build the lwp packages by hand, by creating a directory,
put the files in it (in the correct subdirectories) and do (from within
the created directory):

tar -c * | gzip -9  example.lwp


 Regards,
 Andrea Fino

Regards,
Eric




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Re: [leaf-devel] Buildtool and buildenv

2006-06-18 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Erich,

 I want to make a small modification in the kernel configuration. What
 directory will these changes be made in, as it is neither in apps nor
 contrib. Basically the sources reside in

 $BUILDROOT/source/linux/


 the mods are done using menuconfig, which will make a modified .config in
 the linux subdirectory.

 So far so good, now I am trying to compile the kernel using this config
 file.

  ./buildtool.pl build kernel


 this sounds logical to me, but now nothing happens, buildtool appears to
 be happy with what it got, no need to do something. This is where I am
 stuck.

What I do mostly do in such cases is ./buildtool srcclean kernel and
./buildtool srcclean linux, copy the new .config to
buildtool/source/linux/Bering-2.4.32.config and ./buildtool.pl build
kernel.

The setup of linux and kernel is unlike other packages split in two
different setups because the linux source/headers are needed for buildenv
and buildenv is needed for building the kernel.

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Re: [leaf-devel] Buildtool and buildenv

2006-06-18 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Erich,

 A few questions before I dig deeper in the Bering uClibc stuff


 - after a ./buildtool.pl build kernel, where does the upx compressed
 kernel image go? Is it

 $BUILDROOT/buildtool/source/linux/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzlinux

It goes to $BUILDROOT/buildtool/build/kernel/


 I looked into the kernel patches


 - what are the various netfilter modules chosen?

What do you mean?

 - the patch for MPPE is quite an old patch, would it make sense to use a
 more recent one?

This is the latest patch known to me and has support for ppp-2.4.2+

 - the helper patch seems to be geared towards 2.4.29. Are
 these netfilter patches? - the netconfig patch appears to do similar stuff
 as the helper patches, what is the rationale to have this done apart?

The netfilter helpers patch is not geared towards 2.4.29, it just hasn't
changed since. It contains various helper netfilter modules, like
(conntrack) h323, mms, pptp, gre, quake3, talk, tuple and quota.
The netconfig patch extends the ability of the kernel config to modularize
some of the netfilter code.
The connmark adds the connmark netfilter code to the kernel.

The rationale behind this is grouping of functionality so individual
patches can be updated without creating a complete new patch. They are
also included in different moments in time.

 Thanks for your patience


 Erich

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Re: [leaf-devel] Buildtool and buildenv

2006-06-18 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Erich,

How are the dependencies handled by buildtool? Is this done by flag files?

In sources.cfg. If some source depends on an other source, it's 
listed in sources.cfg as a dependency.

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Re: [leaf-devel] Buildtool and buildenv

2006-06-18 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Erich,

 The setup of linux and kernel is unlike other packages split in two
 different setups because the linux source/headers are needed for buildenv
 and buildenv is needed for building the kernel.

That is probably the part I am missing. What are the linux kernel
sources needed for in buildenv? I probably wrongly see the buildenv as
an environment for bulding things.

Gcc and uClibc depend on the linux kernel headers, so to build the 
buildenv you need the kernel headers which are provided by the linux 
source.

Does this imply I have to rebuild the buildenv if the kernel version
changes?

It's the savest thing todo, but the headers don't change that often.

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Re: [leaf-devel] Buildtool and buildenv

2006-06-18 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

Hmmm... why would I have to rebuild the buildenv? AFAIK Andreas Steffen
has just added some functionality to the *swan, just like openswan. I
will have to look a bit deeper.

You may need the strongswan kernel headers to properly build 
strongswan. It's a bit subtle, you could go ahead and try without 
rebuilding buildenv. I usely take the save road and rebuild buildenv.

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Re: [leaf-devel] Buildtool and buildenv

2006-06-18 Thread Eric Spakman
Hi Erich,

Hmmm... why would I have to rebuild the buildenv? AFAIK Andreas Steffen
has just added some functionality to the *swan, just like openswan. I
will have to look a bit deeper.

To be somewhat clearer, I rebuilt buildenv not for gcc/uClibc itself 
but more to be sure all the headers are updated. Just to be sure. 
There are probably quicker methods.

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Re: [leaf-devel] buildenv

2006-06-16 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Cedric,

Hello list,


I'd like to start working on updating buildenv to uclibc 0.9.28 so I
have some questions :

Is there someone already working on this ?

If yes, what can I do to help ?

The Bering-uClibc team has all the changes necessary for an upgrade 
ready, both in buildenv and packages. 

We are carefully working on a roadmap, because uClibc is not 
backwards compatible (yet) and we are also working on a new config 
system which we want to implement at the same time. So we don't have 
two backward incompatible changes after eachother.

In all cases, have choices regarding binutils/gcc been made ?
(which were the apps requiring gcc 3.3 ?)

Binutils is updated to version 1.16.1 and we would like to update gcc 
(to version 3.4.x because the kernel doesn't support 4.x) . We have 
some problems to update gcc, but are working on a solution.

This is an area where help is welcome. Ofcourse testing is also 
welcome.

What about using uclibc's buildroot to build the toolchain ? That may
be tricky to integrate in buildtool but reusing their work sounds
logical. Or we can hack on buildroot to replace buildtool, converting
apps makefiles to buildroot is quite straight forward

Buildtool is based on buildroot, with some changes needed for package 
creation and some other things which are practical for us. I don't 
see a real need to replace it, it's just a development tool which is 
well tested.


Regards,
Cedric

Regards, 
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Re: [leaf-devel] New config/backup system

2006-06-12 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Cedric,

 Hi Eric,

 That sounds great.
 Is there already something we can test/hack ?

I have an image I can send you this evening (UTC) when I'm home. If there
is more demand, maybe it can be placed somewhere on the LEAF site.

 Any idea on the timeline, especially for the (long awaited) uClibc upgrade
 ?

Not yet, it depends on everyones free time ;)) The move to a new config
system and/or uClibc upgrade touches every package setup in buildtool, so
although it's not very difficult to do it costs time. Also every package
needs to be rebuilded and tested.


 What about a 3-way diff tool during upgrade process ? We would then
 have a really upgradable system.

That would be nice, but could be implemented afterwards. The question is
if it's really needed. If the changes between package versions/revisions
are compatible, it's just a matter of replacing the package. If the
changes are incompatible, the question is if a 3-way diff tool works.
Anyway, with this new config system you only have to diff one package (the
configdb) instead of each and every package.


 Regards,
 Cedric

Regards,
Eric


 2006/6/11, Eric Spakman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello list,


 The Bering-uClibc crew is working on a new config/backup system. In
 this system config changes are no longer saved in the package itself but
 in a seperate configdb package. The same is true for modules, which
 are saved in a moddb package.

 This is done because several users suggested to split the configuration
  from the binaries.

 The config system only saves the changed files, keeping the overhead to
 a minumum. It is partly based on apkg by Nathan and Nathaneal. It works
 as follows (somewhat simplified): -At startup (pre-init) the sha1-sums
 of files listed in a package.local file are calculated and saved in a
 package.sha1 file. The files listed
 in package.local are user changable files like config files and f.e.
 ssh-keys -At backup time the contents of the package.sha1 is compared
 with the actual files on the system and only the changed files are
 backuped. This is done for all packages on the system and only one
 configdb is
 created with changes from all packages. It's also dynamic so files no
 longer available on the system (the package is removed) will be removed
  from it.

 Some of the advantages:
 -Upgrading should be easier in most cases (config is preserved)
 -It is possible to create specific configd and moddb packages for
 specific hardware or functionality without creating special packages
 (WRAP, ...)
 -The packages are static, so no more corruption or growing root.lrp
 -package.list and package.exclude.list can be removed


 Because this system creates some package incompatibility (no more .list
  files) we plan to do this with an uClibc upgrade (which isn't
 backwards compatible also). The changes are not very drastic and
 relative easy implemented in buildtool, so we could make the change
 without a lot of effort.

 Comments?


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Re: [leaf-devel] hostapd + wpa2 + madwifi_ng = broken

2006-06-12 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Paul,

 The second problem is probably a madwifi driver bug or an inability of
 the CM9 card.

 I was trying to run WPA with CCMP (AES in CBC mode) as one of the
 available cyphers.  (hostapd was configured to allow ccmp as well as tkip).
 My Mac was working fine, but my wife's PC was crapping out.


 When hostapd attempts to configure the atheros card to do CCMP, we get a
 bad ioctl error.  The CM9 should support this:

Did you load the aes kernel module? According to the madwifi page an error
like this can occur when this module isn't loaded.

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Re: [leaf-devel] New config/backup system

2006-06-12 Thread Eric Spakman
Op Ma, 12 juni, 2006 10:26 am schreef Cédric Schieli:
 I have an image I can send you this evening (UTC) when I'm home. If
 there is more demand, maybe it can be placed somewhere on the LEAF site.


 I'll be there ;)

Ok :))


 Not yet, it depends on everyones free time ;)) The move to a new config
  system and/or uClibc upgrade touches every package setup in buildtool,
 so although it's not very difficult to do it costs time. Also every
 package needs to be rebuilded and tested.

 I meant a timeline (TODO list ?) for an upgraded uClibc toolchain.
 Thus we can start rebuilding and testing ;)
 As buildtool now permit using a local checkout, wouldn't be useful to
 have a dedicated cvs branch for that work to be done ?

Not sure, now that we tag the sources it should be easier to checkout a
specific version. Making a seperate branch would introduce extra work and
take extra time we don't have..

 That would be nice, but could be implemented afterwards. The question
 is if it's really needed. If the changes between package
 versions/revisions are compatible, it's just a matter of replacing the
 package. If the changes are incompatible, the question is if a 3-way
 diff tool works.

 As pointed out somewhere in this list, documentation is often
 contained in config files. Merging when there are no incompatible changes
 gives you an opportunity to get new doclets. If changes are
 incompatible, let's spawn a shell for hand-merging. A really nice feature
 would be a kind of Debian's ucf whithout the debconf stuff, and why not a
 kind of leafconf (but that's another story)

True, but you also have the problem of the UI. If you only store diffs you
have to represent the merge to the user somehow (and create a diff again
when saving the changes). The current system is really very simple and
doesn't use extra tools like diff and patch. Besides config files (text
files) compress very good so the result will probably be a lot smaller
than introducing new requirements.

But the idea is attractive. I see the new config system as a first step,
if the framework is in-place and packages itself aren't backupped anymore
improvents can be made in the userspace configtools and the packages
itself don't need to be touched anymore.

It's also possible to create some sort of offline config/update tool
instead of doing it all on the host itself.


 Regards,
 Cedric

Reagrds,
Eric




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