Re: updates
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: After all these years (since Netscape 1.0) I've basically given up on the SeaMonkey browser, replacing it with Firefox. However, out of habit and utility, I still use SeaMonkey 2.49.1 for e-mail and Composer for updating my web site (I have separate links to open only those portions of the suite). This means when I click on an e-mail link it opens the SeaMonkey browser in a separate window...which is OK by me usually. More often I just ^C the link and then paste it in Firefox. This is working fine for me. I've always been scared in the past when I had to manually do a SeaMonkey version update. It always did work; but I had nervous moments fearful that I'd lose my profile etc. Obviously I haven't updated SeaMonkey for a while now. I see the current version is 2.53.3. So here's my question. In my situation, should I do the SeaMonkey update just for the e-mail and composer parts? Would there be some major advantage to doing the update? Everything that I need to do with the SeaMonkey portions other than the browser itself is working fine. Do I need to do the update to the entire suite for some reason? Thank you for Mozilla, however I use it!! You can't update "just the e-mail and composer parts", it is one program. I have absolutely no idea which Thunderbird fixes have gone in since 2.49.1, very little has happened with composer. Lightning is now included, it was not back then. If you do upgrade - and I see no reason not to - there are a couple of things you need to worry about: - Starting 2.49.5, Seamonkey comes in 32-bit and 64-bit versions. If you are going to move to a 64-bit version, UNINSTALL THE OLD VERSION > BEFORE INSTALLING THE NEW ONE. This is because installing a 64-bit version will not remove a 32-bit version, something which can have fatal side-effects. I'm not sure if I have the 32 or 64 bit version of SeaMonkey. I do see this in "about": User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Does that x64 mean 64 bit version even if it is SM 2.49.1? I've never worried about that in previous updates to SM. But now you have me thinking that I better know whether to uninstall my current version (something that worries me) or not if it is the 32-bit version. Thank you for the advice! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser
Lance Courtland wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Lance Courtland wrote: I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a lot. I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in Chrome, which is now my default. Could you specify how you managed this feat? I would like to have links open in the Firefox browser. However Chrome would work, too. I just don't know how to redirect the browser when I click on the link. Thanks. Ken, Try this. I'm using Windows 10, SM 2.53.3 1. Make Firefox your default browser, from Firefox and in Windows default programs. Reboot computer. 2. In SM check Edit/Preferences/Browser, Default browser. Make sure SM is not your default browser. 3.In SM browser, go to about:config. Search for network.protocol-handler.external.http. If it exists, set it to false. If it doesn't exist, create it as a boolean and set it to false. 4. Do the same as step 3 for network.protocol-handler.external.https. 5. Still in about:config, search for network.protocol-handler.warn-external.mailto and set it to false. If it doesn't exist, create it as a boolean and set it to false. 6. Close SM and reboot computer. *sigh*. Neither *.http or *.https exists in my config file. I suppose I could figure out how to create them as a boolean since years ago I did futz around with the config file per a suggestion on this newsgroup. However, nowadays my computer savvy is not as effective as it once was; so I'll just have to continue with my practice of copying and pasting the links into Firefox by hand. Anyway, congratulation to you for succeeding and thanks for the hint! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser
Lance Courtland wrote: I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a lot. I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in Chrome, which is now my default. Could you specify how you managed this feat? I would like to have links open in the Firefox browser. However Chrome would work, too. I just don't know how to redirect the browser when I click on the link. Thanks. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
updates
After all these years (since Netscape 1.0) I've basically given up on the SeaMonkey browser, replacing it with Firefox. However, out of habit and utility, I still use SeaMonkey 2.49.1 for e-mail and Composer for updating my web site (I have separate links to open only those portions of the suite). This means when I click on an e-mail link it opens the SeaMonkey browser in a separate window...which is OK by me usually. More often I just ^C the link and then paste it in Firefox. This is working fine for me. I've always been scared in the past when I had to manually do a SeaMonkey version update. It always did work; but I had nervous moments fearful that I'd lose my profile etc. Obviously I haven't updated SeaMonkey for a while now. I see the current version is 2.53.3. So here's my question. In my situation, should I do the SeaMonkey update just for the e-mail and composer parts? Would there be some major advantage to doing the update? Everything that I need to do with the SeaMonkey portions other than the browser itself is working fine. Do I need to do the update to the entire suite for some reason? Thank you for Mozilla, however I use it!! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Suddenly frequent SM crashes
SeaMonkey has crashed 3 times in the past 3 hours and once last night. I've gone several months without crashes; so this cluster comes out of the blue. Win 10.0 17134 SM 2.49.1esr Each has the same crash reason: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION_READ There's lots more in the crash report that I think was automatically sent to Mozilla. But I was wondering if anybody has an idea of what to do about this? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Link to Firefox browser side?
chokito wrote: On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:13:37 AM UTC+2, Jonathan Wilson wrote: My guess is that Netflix wont play back content on SeaMonkey regardless of the user agent since SeaMonkey doesn't support the DRM plugins that Firefox (and other browsers do). Use 'general.useragent.override.netflix.com' with 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0' works for me with Silverligt and latest SM 2.49.5. That's good to know. I do have the Silverlight add-on installed; but my version of SeaMonkey only offers an update to SM 2.49.4. I have been hesitant to update from 2.49.1 just on general principles, since this is the only problem I've encountered with 2.49.1. I'll watch for the availability of 2.49.5 and update to that and see if it works. In the meantime, I'll continue to use my temp fix for opening the Netflix link in one of my other browsers. Thanks to all for your input. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Link to Firefox browser side?
Jonathan Wilson wrote: My guess is that Netflix wont play back content on SeaMonkey regardless of the user agent since SeaMonkey doesn't support the DRM plugins that Firefox (and other browsers do). Thanks. That makes sense. And it makes it all the more vital to have a fix in SM e-mail, like right clicking on a link to Netflix and have a drop down menu that has the option "Open link in Firefox". Or, better yet, maybe provide a DRM plugin for SM (whatever that is.) After all, Netflix is a major internet site that uses an enormous amount of net traffic that SeaMonkey should be able to utilize. Oh, well, there is a lengthy go-around: save the link, then open Firefox (or Chrome, or Edge) and open the link there to watch the Netflix trailer etc. This seems to be a real flaw in the SeaMonkey all-in-one mail/browser architecture that goes back to Netscape. Oddly enough, I think it is the first time I've encountered this situation. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Link to Firefox browser side? Possible solution
Paul Bergsagel wrote: Have you tried turning off "Advertise Firefox compatibility" in the preferences: Preferences > Advanced > Http Networking. ? Some website will think the user is using an outdated version of Firefox when the box "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is checked? Google will not display its search site properly if the box is checked. I have found that many sites function better by not Advertising Firefox compatibility, even some sites that would not work at all when the box is checked. Try turning off "Advertise Firefox compatibility" and see if Netflick works. Thanks for the suggestion. But it made no difference. I still go to the same error page when clicking on a link in Netflix e-mail. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Link to Firefox browser side?
Hartmut Figge wrote:
Ken Rudolph:
Too many sites these days just do not support links from e-mail to the
SeaMonkey browser (no matter how I set it to spoof Firefox).
Hm. Did you try
user_pref("general.useragent,override.netflix.com", "Your FF-UA";?
Even though I have no idea how to go about editing the user.js file,
this does sound like a possibility. For what it's worth, my Firefox
call on this computer is "C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla
Firefox\firefox.exe"
Sorry, can't try it. Netflix insists on a subscription. And I do not
know what the actual FF-UA is.
If that is the correct FF-UA, could you tell me how to go about adding
this (if this is exactly what I need.) Of course I am really afraid to
actually modify the SeaMonkey files. But if this exact line would work
I would try it if I knew where to put it.
user_pref("general.useragent,override.netflix.com", "C:\Program Files
(x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe";
Hartmut
Thank you!
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Re: Link to Firefox browser side?
WaltS48 wrote: On 5/27/19 4:26 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Too many sites these days just do not support links from e-mail to the SeaMonkey browser (no matter how I set it to spoof Firefox). For instance Netflix e-mail links go to an "unsupported browser" page no matter what. I do also have the most updated version of Firefox on my computer. I was wondering if there is any way to set my e-mail composer (in SeaMonkey) to have the option to link to the actual Firefox browser when I click on a link rather than the SeaMonkey one. I want to continue to use the SeaMonkey mail side and also the actual updated Firefox browser side, at least as an option. By the way, I'm using SeaMonkey version 2.49.1, which I have been happy with... afraid to upgrade to version 2.49.4 since who knows what might happen to profile etc. Is it possible that just upgrading to the latest SM version might solve this? Thanks. You are using SeaMonkey 2.49.1, but posting to this newsgroup with "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3"? No wonder Netflix thinks you are using an outdated browser. Try changing the user agent to "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3". The rv: and Firefox/ match in every version I have ever used. I did try changing the user agent as you asked (I think it is done now.) I still get an error page on the Netflix site in the SM browser when I try to watch a video. It says: "Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight: You can use our HTML5 player or the Silverlight plug-in to watch Netflix TV shows and movies on PCs running Windows XP or later, and Intel-based Macs running OS X Tiger (v10.4.11) or later. You'll find a complete list of requirements below for HTML5, Silverlight 4, and Silverlight 5." claiming that this browser doesn't fit that requirement (although I think it does.) Anyway, the e-mail link works to play videos when I open it in Firefox, Chrome and Edge. But not SeaMonkey with that user agent. What I need is a right click to "Open Message in Firefox" or whatever, not "Open Message in a New Tab." Would that be impossible? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Link to Firefox browser side?
Too many sites these days just do not support links from e-mail to the SeaMonkey browser (no matter how I set it to spoof Firefox). For instance Netflix e-mail links go to an "unsupported browser" page no matter what. I do also have the most updated version of Firefox on my computer. I was wondering if there is any way to set my e-mail composer (in SeaMonkey) to have the option to link to the actual Firefox browser when I click on a link rather than the SeaMonkey one. I want to continue to use the SeaMonkey mail side and also the actual updated Firefox browser side, at least as an option. By the way, I'm using SeaMonkey version 2.49.1, which I have been happy with... afraid to upgrade to version 2.49.4 since who knows what might happen to profile etc. Is it possible that just upgrading to the latest SM version might solve this? Thanks. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes
WaltS48 wrote: On 12/31/18 2:25 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Windows 10 Intel graphics driver crash. If you don't have a laptop get a new AMD or Nvidia card. Even the cheapest dedicated current generation card from them is better than the Intel junk. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1479795 If you run 1809 try the latest DCH drivers: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28445/Intel-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-10?product=88345 I'm sorry, I'm not tech capable enough to understand this. I am running on a laptop (Dell Inspiron 7559). My display info shows an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, with driver ver. 25.21.14.1634. Also, Intel HD Graphics 530, driver ver. 23.20.16.4973. Every diagnostic I can find says that there are no new drivers available for my system. I fear that running some unknown Intel Graphics Driver for Windows program might not be a good idea. Would your download deal correctly with my Intel HD 530? I'm certainly willing to accept your diagnosis that my crashes are related to my graphics card. What do you suggest I do? I've already decided that my next computer will have a much better graphics card because I'd like to run VR content. TIA!!! --Ken Just my observation of the crash report. It shows that you are using the Intel HD 530 graphics card, not the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M. I don't know how you would do it, but switching to the NVIDIA card for graphics may help. I could use the Device Manager to disable the Intel card. I know how to do that. But I really am afraid to modify the system so radically. I just don't know why when both devices are shown to be present and in good working order, how and why the system opts for one over the other. My lack of knowledge is embarrassing. Bottom line, I'm afraid to modify the graphics; and it seems that my version of SeaMonkey isn't causing the crashes. So at this point, I guess I'm living with the crashes. --Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Windows 10 Intel graphics driver crash. If you don't have a laptop get a new AMD or Nvidia card. Even the cheapest dedicated current generation card from them is better than the Intel junk. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1479795 If you run 1809 try the latest DCH drivers: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28445/Intel-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-10?product=88345 I'm sorry, I'm not tech capable enough to understand this. I am running on a laptop (Dell Inspiron 7559). My display info shows an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, with driver ver. 25.21.14.1634. Also, Intel HD Graphics 530, driver ver. 23.20.16.4973. Every diagnostic I can find says that there are no new drivers available for my system. I fear that running some unknown Intel Graphics Driver for Windows program might not be a good idea. Would your download deal correctly with my Intel HD 530? I'm certainly willing to accept your diagnosis that my crashes are related to my graphics card. What do you suggest I do? I've already decided that my next computer will have a much better graphics card because I'd like to run VR content. TIA!!! --Ken FRG Ken Rudolph wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Patch applied clean and is now in the patch repo Bills builds use. All the crashes from David where caused by this. Ken, unless I see a crash id for the first report can't tell if it fixes this one too. Please post a crash id from about:crashes The most recent one: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/9863b11f-5f30-4c13-a5b8-90b750181231 The most recent spate of crashes started on 12/23 after no activity in a long while: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b88da439-7815-4c22-9778-fa1720181223 Thanks for making the effort!! --Ken FRG Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Seems to be crypto related. I don't have access to the underlying bug just the changeset and a duplicate bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1499020 If the change applies clean I will see that Bills builds pick it up tomorrow: http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/ ewong is still on our infra. It will still be some time till an official release follows unfortunately. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1512882 While he is working on the infra I am doing backports to 2.49.5 and 2.53. Have a nice trip into the new year FRG David H. Durgee wrote: Thanks for letting me know, Frank-Rainer. Are the other two the same bug? Is there anything to be done on my end until the fixed release is available? Dave Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0048e3a0-7eb3-4ba1-89ec-36c510181231 This is Bug 1500759. Already fixed in 2.53. Need to see if it applies clean to 2.49 and then it will be in 2.49.5. FRG Yamo' wrote: Hi, David H. Durgee a écrit le 31/12/2018 à 14:29 : A Williams wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: SeaMonkey has crashed 3 times today. I'm not sure why; but maybe I do need to update the program finally...I've been hesitant to do it since I have had no problems with SM until today. Anyway, W-10, SM 2.49.1 (yeah, I know, very out of date). Look, I go back to Netscape 0.8, so I'm not exactly a newbee. Still, I'm always afraid to update SeaMonkey - afraid that my profile will get corrupted or something will go wrong. I'm just curious if experts think that upgrading to 2.49.4 (which seems to be the latest version) would stop these annoying crashes. Do you have any add-ons which have been updated recently? Does about:crashes show anything useful? (it never has for me though) Other than that: I'd clear Cache, empty Trash, Compact mail-folders. 2.49.1 counts as "recent" in my book, it should be stable but something is causing it to die. I don't know what is going on, but I have had three crashes in the last few days. Per about:crashes Report ID Date Submitted bp-0048e3a0-7eb3-4ba1-89ec-36c510181231 12/31/185:52 AM bp-05ab3548-b184-4461-a69d-423500181225 12/24/187:45 PM bp-e6cfdc10-c1a3-4cec-8d69-dc4fd0181220 12/20/183:00 PM Prior to this my last crash was in June. I have no idea how to read these and determine the cause. Dave I didn't found those reports, crash-stats.mozilla.com give me my crashes and not your crashes... I think you have to click on the links that you found after about:crashes and publish the urls which will be like this one : <https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0048e3a0-7eb3-4ba1-89ec-36c510181231>. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Patch applied clean and is now in the patch repo Bills builds use. All the crashes from David where caused by this. Ken, unless I see a crash id for the first report can't tell if it fixes this one too. Please post a crash id from about:crashes The most recent one: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/9863b11f-5f30-4c13-a5b8-90b750181231 The most recent spate of crashes started on 12/23 after no activity in a long while: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b88da439-7815-4c22-9778-fa1720181223 Thanks for making the effort!! --Ken FRG Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Seems to be crypto related. I don't have access to the underlying bug just the changeset and a duplicate bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1499020 If the change applies clean I will see that Bills builds pick it up tomorrow: http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/ ewong is still on our infra. It will still be some time till an official release follows unfortunately. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1512882 While he is working on the infra I am doing backports to 2.49.5 and 2.53. Have a nice trip into the new year FRG David H. Durgee wrote: Thanks for letting me know, Frank-Rainer. Are the other two the same bug? Is there anything to be done on my end until the fixed release is available? Dave Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0048e3a0-7eb3-4ba1-89ec-36c510181231 This is Bug 1500759. Already fixed in 2.53. Need to see if it applies clean to 2.49 and then it will be in 2.49.5. FRG Yamo' wrote: Hi, David H. Durgee a écrit le 31/12/2018 à 14:29 : A Williams wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: SeaMonkey has crashed 3 times today. I'm not sure why; but maybe I do need to update the program finally...I've been hesitant to do it since I have had no problems with SM until today. Anyway, W-10, SM 2.49.1 (yeah, I know, very out of date). Look, I go back to Netscape 0.8, so I'm not exactly a newbee. Still, I'm always afraid to update SeaMonkey - afraid that my profile will get corrupted or something will go wrong. I'm just curious if experts think that upgrading to 2.49.4 (which seems to be the latest version) would stop these annoying crashes. Do you have any add-ons which have been updated recently? Does about:crashes show anything useful? (it never has for me though) Other than that: I'd clear Cache, empty Trash, Compact mail-folders. 2.49.1 counts as "recent" in my book, it should be stable but something is causing it to die. I don't know what is going on, but I have had three crashes in the last few days. Per about:crashes Report ID Date Submitted bp-0048e3a0-7eb3-4ba1-89ec-36c510181231 12/31/185:52 AM bp-05ab3548-b184-4461-a69d-423500181225 12/24/187:45 PM bp-e6cfdc10-c1a3-4cec-8d69-dc4fd0181220 12/20/183:00 PM Prior to this my last crash was in June. I have no idea how to read these and determine the cause. Dave I didn't found those reports, crash-stats.mozilla.com give me my crashes and not your crashes... I think you have to click on the links that you found after about:crashes and publish the urls which will be like this one : <https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0048e3a0-7eb3-4ba1-89ec-36c510181231>. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes
A Williams wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: SeaMonkey has crashed 3 times today. I'm not sure why; but maybe I do need to update the program finally...I've been hesitant to do it since I have had no problems with SM until today. Anyway, W-10, SM 2.49.1 (yeah, I know, very out of date). Look, I go back to Netscape 0.8, so I'm not exactly a newbee. Still, I'm always afraid to update SeaMonkey - afraid that my profile will get corrupted or something will go wrong. I'm just curious if experts think that upgrading to 2.49.4 (which seems to be the latest version) would stop these annoying crashes. Do you have any add-ons which have been updated recently? Does about:crashes show anything useful? (it never has for me though) Other than that: I'd clear Cache, empty Trash, Compact mail-folders. 2.49.1 counts as "recent" in my book, it should be stable but something is causing it to die. Every one of the crashes says that the reason is: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION_READ -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Crashes
SeaMonkey has crashed 3 times today. I'm not sure why; but maybe I do need to update the program finally...I've been hesitant to do it since I have had no problems with SM until today. Anyway, W-10, SM 2.49.1 (yeah, I know, very out of date). Look, I go back to Netscape 0.8, so I'm not exactly a newbee. Still, I'm always afraid to update SeaMonkey - afraid that my profile will get corrupted or something will go wrong. I'm just curious if experts think that upgrading to 2.49.4 (which seems to be the latest version) would stop these annoying crashes. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML5 support
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: [snip] [snip] Windows button (calls the Start menu), All Programs, SeaMonkey should give you four options: Profile Manager SeaMonkey (Safe Mode) SeaMonkey Mail SeaMonkey Except that there are only 3 options when I do this: (Safe Mode) just isn't there in the Start menu. The other three are there, and they point to 2.49.1. I'm running Win-10 the latest updated version. Maybe Netflix videos in SeaMonkey is just beyond my capabilities. I can live with the other browsers that I have. Anyway, thank you for trying. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML5 support
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: No matter how I set the UA, I can't run a Netflix movie or show. I get sent to the same page demanding HTML5 or Silverlight support. I've checked three other browsers: Firefox, Chrome, and Edge and all of them play Netflix sources with no problems. Only SeaMonkey has this problem. So it isn't just clicking on a link from e-mail...it's Netflix site period. Is there any add-on or plug-in for HTML5 that I need to have? Other responders seem to not have this problem. I'm just not sure what's wrong with my version of 2.49.1 (Build identifier: 20170619162041) OK, try this: 1) Close all browser windows except a blank one. 2) Clear cache and cookies (options at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Private Data). 3) Load a Netflix page and see if you can play it. If the answer's yes, something was bad in your cache or cookies and it's gone now. Problem solved. If the answer's no, then try this: 4) Restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, disabling all add-ons. If that solves it, one of your add-ons is the guilty party. (If that doesn't solve it, report back.) 5) Assuming Safe Mode solved the problem, restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode again, disabling all but two add-ons. If the problem reappears, one of those two is guilty. Otherwise, repeat this step with two more. If the problem reappears, one of those two is guilty. Otherwise, repeat this step with two more. ... When you come to the point where you have two suspects, restart SeaMonkey in Safe Mode, enabling only one of those two suspects. That will tell you which is guilty. I'm unable to make any of this work, other than clearing cache and cookies (which didn't solve the Netflix problem). Then, I don't know how to open and run SM in safe mode to begin with (I'm assuming you don't mean open Windows 10 in safe mode, which I could do by shift+restart...but would rather not.) Another problem I've just discovered is that I seem to have two versions of SM on this computer. One is in "Program Files" which is SeaMonkey 2.49.1. When I open this the release notes say in big red letters: "Automatic upgrades from previous versions are, for most configurations, disabled for this release. Please download the full installer from the downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.49.1 manually over the previous version." The other is in "Program Files (x86)" which loads SM 2.46. Both seem to use the same profile. Also, both do not play Netflix videos even after clearing cache and cookies. Now that I think about it, for a while now I've had other video problems in SM, and have gotten used to saving the link, opening Chrome, and watching them there. At this point, I think that I'm too confused to try to solve the Netflix problem. The version of SM 2.49.1 that I have, which opens when I click on the icon on my desktop, is working fine for everything else. And I'm not sure I want to screw around with downloading the full installer again and manually re-installing over the previous version. I'm not even sure which version to manually install over. But thank you for trying to help me! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML5 support
Ken Rudolph wrote: Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3or Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 No matter how I set the UA, I can't run a Netflix movie or show. I get sent to the same page demanding HTML5 or Silverlight support. I've checked three other browsers: Firefox, Chrome, and Edge and all of them play Netflix sources with no problems. Only SeaMonkey has this problem. So it isn't just clicking on a link from e-mail...it's Netflix site period. Is there any add-on or plug-in for HTML5 that I need to have? Other responders seem to not have this problem. I'm just not sure what's wrong with my version of 2.49.1 (Build identifier: 20170619162041) -- Ken Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from the Crown. However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight. No add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem. When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it plays fine on all 3. But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in e-mail goes to the SM browser. Maybe if there were an easy way to set links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be useful...but not optimal, of course. Anyway, the e-mail link in question: https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH How can I get SM to play this link? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML5 support
WaltS48 wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3 Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from the Crown. However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight. No add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem. When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it plays fine on all 3. But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in e-mail goes to the SM browser. Maybe if there were an easy way to set links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be useful...but not optimal, of course. Anyway, the e-mail link in question: https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH How can I get SM to play this link? Works for me in SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on Windows 10 with UA Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Looks like you need to fix the UA for your SeaMonkey. I changed the UA to: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 And that still didn't change anything. I still get sent to a page: "Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight" etc. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HTML5 support
Ray_Net wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote on 23-12-17 21:20: Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3 Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from the Crown. However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight. No add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem. When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it plays fine on all 3. But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in e-mail goes to the SM browser. Maybe if there were an easy way to set links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be useful...but not optimal, of course. Anyway, the e-mail link in question: https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH How can I get SM to play this link? Work for me nothing special installed. Win10 pro. User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Maybe I need an add-on for HTML5 for SeaMonkey; but I'm not sure what that would be. When I go to add-ons for SeaMonkey there is an HTML5 Video Everywhere! by lejenome that I can add to Firefox (not SeaMonkey). However when I try to add it using SeaMonkey I get the message that "The add-on downloaded from addons.mozilla.org could not be installed because it appears to be corrupt." And my version of Firefox already seems to have an HTML5 player. And nothing from the Add-ons extensions for HTML5 seem to be for SM 2.49.1 -- Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
HTML5 support
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.1 on updated Win10, with modified user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3 Netflix sent me a link in SeaMonkey e-mail to watch a short message from the Crown. However when I click on the link [shown below] it doesn't play in the SeaMonkey browser, rather I get a message about Netflix system requirements for HTML5 Player and Silverlight. No add-ons from Mozilla that I try seem to work to rectify this problem. When I use Firefox, Chrome or Edge browsers, and use the same link it plays fine on all 3. But the point of SeaMonkey is that a link in e-mail goes to the SM browser. Maybe if there were an easy way to set links in SM e-mail to go to one of the other browsers that would be useful...but not optimal, of course. Anyway, the e-mail link in question: https://www.netflix.com/watch/80230267?trkid=13710079_TITLE=80230267=EMP=F78B0997B0E061CD360DCEAFCB6432116452765C=CROWN_S2_MESSAGE_WATCH How can I get SM to play this link? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: plugin-container.exe ?
chokito wrote: The 64-bit version of plugin-container.exe has MD5: 33d3c39d859b84772dfc17c2d27f5705 This MD5-checksum correspends to an old version of 2.49.1 from 2017-05-28. - The latest version 2.49.1 is from 2017-06-19. (The better name would be 2.49.2). https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-esr-windows32/ https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-esr-windows64/ FWIW, the SM 2.49.1 I have installed: Build identifier: 20170619162041 . I assume that is the latest version. I'm not sure what to do with the information above about the MD5 for plugin-container.exe . I got another notice from Norton, and marked the program as "trusted." Hopefully that will do the trick until the next official release. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
plugin-container.exe ?
I'm running SM 2.49.1 under Win-10. Lately I've been getting a Norton warning that something called plugin-container.exe has no valid digital signature. It's happened several times, now, and I'm wondering if I should be concerned or if I should tell Norton to bug off. Incidentally, I went to the "unsupported" 2.49.1 because I was getting frequent crashed with 2.46. It's been well over a week now with 2.49.1 and not a single crash since then. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: This seems to be caused by a core bug but I can't access it because it is security relevant so not sure if it will be fixed by upgrading to the upcoming 2.48. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230817 is a duplicate of the bug. You can upgrade to Adrians unofficial 2.49.1 which will be the next version after 2.48: https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/ If you do please backup your profile in case you want to get back to 2.46 or 2.48. When it finally arrives the official 2.491 will install over Adrians fine without the need to do a restore before. I did this upgrade on 6/27 based on an e-mail, installing the 64bit version 2.49.1. So far it has worked flawlessly including the install, with no crashes after 3 day. I've never worked with a beta before; but this has been a good experience for me. --Ken FRG Ken Rudolph wrote: Mason83 wrote: On 28/06/2017 00:46, Ken Rudolph wrote: SM 2.46 (Win-10) has developed the annoying habit of crashing, and recently way too often. Please open a browser window, and type about:crashes in the URL bar. Please copy/paste lines less than 3 months old. Regards. bp-a9787be9-a505-403e-9ddf-e5bc70170627 6/27/173:13 PM bp-1beb928b-2276-4099-8985-ff0f30170627 6/27/171:55 PM bp-2526d098-8115-419e-b8b5-ca5f60170627 6/27/171:54 PM bp-29d6f0ce-394d-4b08-be9b-43d8c0170627 6/26/178:38 PM bp-5c8bd892-73d8-46f0-8792-6f4e70170626 6/26/177:49 AM bp-10068a32-601e-4811-9fc0-1ca4f0170623 6/23/179:11 AM bp-3a81a172-2443-43ba-9570-3a0c20170623 6/23/177:42 AM bp-5a2d5e67-facc-45a3-bd8a-16ef80170623 6/22/176:16 PM bp-97db968a-3e78-4981-ad88-10a120170622 6/22/1712:19 PM bp-3e719b0c-e91a-42a1-9c86-ca25e0170621 6/20/177:21 PM bp-04fec9a4-24dc-45a1-9d5b-8fe8c0170615 6/15/173:47 PM bp-5aa5914b-bf28-44f4-ac50-9efbc0170606 6/6/1711:14 AM bp-e09808a2-727b-4d6c-b8cf-d4b3d0170603 6/3/1712:07 AM bp-95fe7b67-7e02-4b8f-8d0a-f5e0b0170602 6/2/1711:15 AM bp-ceedad10-67b2-42a7-873f-fa8c50170531 5/30/178:24 PM bp-2432a2ae-e081-4408-a784-b83de0170531 5/30/178:09 PM bp-d5d2c75b-268e-4f05-bd84-ee4370170527 5/27/1710:58 AM bp-adcac668-41c7-4271-b9bc-4234a0170527 5/27/179:38 AM bp-2b559b38-c78c-4876-9a9c-2380b0170526 5/26/171:38 PM bp-6feeadaf-bc81-44f6-8f39-7596b0170526 5/26/171:27 PM bp-efc5efb2-1eda-44d5-8cff-b29270170512 5/12/172:03 PM bp-07bedba7-0105-4ba2-b431-a736a0170511 5/11/177:26 AM bp-50dcc35e-9d8e-4f53-8f4d-f43520170511 5/11/176:53 AM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes
Mason83 wrote: On 28/06/2017 00:46, Ken Rudolph wrote: SM 2.46 (Win-10) has developed the annoying habit of crashing, and recently way too often. Please open a browser window, and type about:crashes in the URL bar. Please copy/paste lines less than 3 months old. Regards. bp-a9787be9-a505-403e-9ddf-e5bc70170627 6/27/17 3:13 PM bp-1beb928b-2276-4099-8985-ff0f30170627 6/27/17 1:55 PM bp-2526d098-8115-419e-b8b5-ca5f60170627 6/27/17 1:54 PM bp-29d6f0ce-394d-4b08-be9b-43d8c0170627 6/26/17 8:38 PM bp-5c8bd892-73d8-46f0-8792-6f4e70170626 6/26/17 7:49 AM bp-10068a32-601e-4811-9fc0-1ca4f0170623 6/23/17 9:11 AM bp-3a81a172-2443-43ba-9570-3a0c20170623 6/23/17 7:42 AM bp-5a2d5e67-facc-45a3-bd8a-16ef80170623 6/22/17 6:16 PM bp-97db968a-3e78-4981-ad88-10a120170622 6/22/17 12:19 PM bp-3e719b0c-e91a-42a1-9c86-ca25e0170621 6/20/17 7:21 PM bp-04fec9a4-24dc-45a1-9d5b-8fe8c0170615 6/15/17 3:47 PM bp-5aa5914b-bf28-44f4-ac50-9efbc0170606 6/6/17 11:14 AM bp-e09808a2-727b-4d6c-b8cf-d4b3d0170603 6/3/17 12:07 AM bp-95fe7b67-7e02-4b8f-8d0a-f5e0b0170602 6/2/17 11:15 AM bp-ceedad10-67b2-42a7-873f-fa8c50170531 5/30/17 8:24 PM bp-2432a2ae-e081-4408-a784-b83de0170531 5/30/17 8:09 PM bp-d5d2c75b-268e-4f05-bd84-ee4370170527 5/27/17 10:58 AM bp-adcac668-41c7-4271-b9bc-4234a0170527 5/27/17 9:38 AM bp-2b559b38-c78c-4876-9a9c-2380b0170526 5/26/17 1:38 PM bp-6feeadaf-bc81-44f6-8f39-7596b0170526 5/26/17 1:27 PM bp-efc5efb2-1eda-44d5-8cff-b29270170512 5/12/17 2:03 PM bp-07bedba7-0105-4ba2-b431-a736a0170511 5/11/17 7:26 AM bp-50dcc35e-9d8e-4f53-8f4d-f43520170511 5/11/17 6:53 AM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Crashes
SM 2.46 (Win-10) has developed the annoying habit of crashing, and recently way too often. I immediately get the window that allows SM to restore all tabs and windows; but when I do entries in the process of being written have disappeared. This is especially annoying in Composer when I'm editing a web site with the HTML composer included with SeaMonkey. In fact it is more than annoying; it's something that I have to cope with ASAP (yes, frequent saving does help a bit; but if I forget it is a disaster.) So, the question: is there a stand-alone Mozilla web site composing app available that wouldn't be subject to a SM crash? It would be nice if such a thing existed in Firefox or Thunderbird, or as a separate program. After almost 20 years of using Netscape and SeaMonkey to edit my web site I can't imagine using another program; but if Mozilla doesn't have one, can somebody suggest a similar "free" HTML editing program that would work just as efficiently? Thanks much. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.46 update not working
Edmund Wong wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: 1) POP e-mail not updating 2) password manager crashes program I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it. How can I make sure that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46 automatically. Help! Hi Ken, Can you clarify what operating system you're running 2.40 on? Win-7. But I haven't checked back here for a few days since the reload of SM 2.40 worked fine and I haven't had any problems since. I'll check frequently to see when ver. 2.47 is released since I don't have automatic updates anymore. I suppose I should try to update at that time for security purposes etc. I hope they fix the problems by then. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.46 update not working
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: 1) POP e-mail not updating 2) password manager crashes program I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it. How can I make sure that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46 automatically. Help! The reload and re-install of 2.40 worked, and everything is working OK again. I still don't know how to stop the automatic updating to 2.46 which I don't want to do until I know it works (maybe the next update?) Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Software Installation. Uncheck 'Automatically Check for Updates.' Thank you. I'll be honest, this is the first time since Netscape 1.0 that an update has failed so disastrously. This really scares me, since I don't know what I'd do without SeaMonkey. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.46 update not working
Ken Rudolph wrote: 1) POP e-mail not updating 2) password manager crashes program I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it. How can I make sure that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46 automatically. Help! The reload and re-install of 2.40 worked, and everything is working OK again. I still don't know how to stop the automatic updating to 2.46 which I don't want to do until I know it works (maybe the next update?) -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.46 update not working
1) POP e-mail not updating 2) password manager crashes program I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it. How can I make sure that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46 automatically. Help! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey specific site problem
David E. Ross wrote: The problem is that "Advertise Firefox compatibility" (which you have set) does not always help when Web sites are sniffing for the user agent (UA) string. The mere presence of "SeaMonkey" in your UA string will cause some sites to ignore the "Firefox" part. In other cases, all this depends on the sequence such that Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.40 Firefox/43.0 would work. No, that IS NOT the problem in this case. Even when I use the Pref bar (which I use a lot) to set the User agent to: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0 which I do to access the Chase Bank site correctly, the site still doesn't load correctly in SM (but it does work fine in Firefox 46.0.1 and NOT at all in Firefox 43.0.1 or SM). No the problem is that SM 2.40 apparently is not using the Firefox 46 Gecko "guts", which is apparently the problem here. Sorry about that. --Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey specific site problem
I'm running Win-7, SeaMonkey 2.40. I am having trouble with a site written especially to handle voting for a film festival. The site works perfectly in Chrome and I.E. It doesn't work with SeaMonkey (and it also didn't work in the identical way with Firefox 43.0.1). The browser strips out film titles and other important information on the site pages. I had trouble upgrading Firefox 43.0.1, since I knew there was a later version (the system froze during the update twice and never completed it). So I un-installed FF and re-installed a fresh version (46.0.1). After that the site in question ran perfectly, exactly the way it does in Chrome and I.E. But it still wouldn't run correctly in SeaMonkey. The site is https://notsiff.net/siff2016/siff.html . However one has to make a login and password to actually access the site, and the site is made for a small group of users for a specific purpose. But even on the log-in page using other browsers there are links opposite the icons that don't appear using SeaMonkey (and didn't appear using FF 43.0. I guess my question is this: My SeaMonkey info says: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40 And as I indicated Firefox 43.0.1 didn't display the site correctly. I was wondering if there is a version of SeaMonkey that utilizes the Firefox/46.0 engine. Maybe then the page would also work correctly in SeaMonkey. I'm not sure if this is a reportable bug, or if my SeaMonkey just hasn't updated to the latest browser version? Or what? Thanks for this site and all the help I've gotten here over the years since Netscape 0.8. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User agent problem
NFN Smith wrote: Personally, I prefer PrefBar. I got started using that one for browser spoofing, but I found that I like the capacity it offers for quick tweaks of other settings, as well. Some time ago, I played with User Agent Switcher, and it seemed to be overly complex to me. Once PrefBar is installed, go to Edit -> Preferences -> Pref Bar. In the UI, you'll need to drag User Agent pref from the Available pane to the Enabled Pane. From there, double click on User Agent, and you can define whatever UA strings you want. (I don't remember if you have to enable display of PrefBar manually, but if it doesn't appear, then you'll need to go to View -> Show/Hide, and make sure that PrefBar is selected.) The one minor complaint that I have with PrefBar is that the strings that are shown in a new installation are quite old, and you'll have to do editing to get more current strings. If you happen to have Firefox installed, you can go to about:support, and copy a live string, from your own installation. Since I already had PrefBar installed that worked!! Until you told me how to edit the installation strings I had no idea how to update the User Agents to something modern that Chase would accept. (i.e. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0 ) Unfortunately, every time I load SeaMonkey I have to select my new string in the User Agent box again, but that isn't a big problem. By the way, I love the PrefBar and couldn't use SM without it! It's especially useful for disabling Flash until I absolutely must have it for one use and then get rid of it. Thank you! Now I have two solutions (one in the tools menu, and the even easier one in the PrefBar.) -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User agent problem
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Chase Bank is insisting that soon they are going to refuse to access their site with my "outdated" browser. Of course my SeaMonkey browser is up to date (Win 7, SM 2.39); but they don't accept SeaMonkey as an approved browser. I would like to change my User Agent that is sent out to Firefox 30.0 or something similar to spoof them. Could somebody please tell me EXACTLY STEP BY STOP how to do this even for an idiot like me! The alternate is to give up SeaMonkey and I don't want to do that. My initial reaction was, "take a deep breath and cross the bridge when you come to it." Banks make stupid threats like this all the time; mine (rhymes with "Key Largo") has for years and nothing has come of it. SeaMonkey still works, always has. But now I see in your later posts that SeaMonkey already doesn't work with Chase? Or are you just getting a nag that you can dismiss and ignore, like when you update Flash and it always wants to bundle McAfee or Yahoo or Chrome or something? If you can't bypass the nag -- if they really insist on enforcing their idiocy -- you have to treat them as idiots and lie to them. It's called "user agent spoofing." Paul in Houston, TX has offered one way of doing it; the User Agent Switcher add-on is another. <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/user-agent-switcher/> I used this addon, and it worked. Chase didn't add a notice that my browser was out of date, and it all seemed to work ok. I'll have to see if it continues; but for now that seems to work. I was just uncomfortable trying to edit the about:config file...especially with the notice that doing this will "void the warranty"!! Also I'm not sure how to go about editing the file anyway. So this addon seems to be a fix for my problem. Thank you. And of course you can always switch to a bank not run by idiots. Won't hurt Chase; as the AT monopolists used to say before the breakup, "we don't have to care." But it'll save you the hair-pulling. Changing banks if one is really involved with loans and annuities etc. is not as easy as changing browsers, unfortunately. But I already have reason to hate Chase Bank for announcing last year that they no longer support their windows phone app and then just eliminating it entirely. Their customer support is just so arrogant. But even so...hard to punish them by leaving because "they don't have to care." -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User agent problem
WaltS48 wrote: On 03/28/2016 10:03 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Chase Bank is insisting that soon they are going to refuse to access their site with my "outdated" browser. Of course my SeaMonkey browser is up to date (Win 7, SM 2.39); but they don't accept SeaMonkey as an approved browser. I would like to change my User Agent that is sent out to Firefox 30.0 or something similar to spoof them. Could somebody please tell me EXACTLY STEP BY STOP how to do this even for an idiot like me! The alternate is to give up SeaMonkey and I don't want to do that. I tried using a User Agent changer that was supplied in a plugin; but that doesn't work. Right now the true UA is: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39 I just want something that Chase Bank will think is acceptable. Thanks again. Um, Install a modern browser and just use it for Chase Bank ❓❓❓ Like Firefox 45.0.1 <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/> Well d'uh! I can use my installed Firefox or Chrome and occasionally do; but I want to use SeaMonkey which IS A MODERN BROWSER. Why should I have to compromise using my main browser? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User agent problem
Felix Miata wrote: Ken Rudolph composed on 2016-03-28 18:52 (UTC-0700): Chase Bank is insisting that soon they are going to refuse to access their site with my "outdated" browser. Of course my SeaMonkey browser is up to date (Win 7, SM 2.39); Are you sure? Your email reports an outdated UA: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2 No, now you'll see that I have the correct UA. What showed up there was my attempt to use a program to change the UA which doesn't work. I need to go into the SeaMonkey file to manually change the UA. In all recent SeaMonkey versions, Firefox is reported if you do nothing to stop it. Advertising of Firefox is a preference item in HTTP Networking defaulting to enabled. Still the fact that SeaMonkey is listed last seems to freak out Chase Bank. If I use Firefox 30.0 or Chrome I don't have this problem. But I have used all the Mozilla Suites since Netscape 1.0 and wish to continue to do so. In any event as many people as possible should be point banks that do as Chase seems to be doing to the instructions on: http://geckoisgecko.org/ Banks, like other web sites, can, and should, be supporting browser functionality, not browsers. Of course! But tell that to the banks. I don't have the power to do anything. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: User agent problem
Ken Rudolph wrote: Chase Bank is insisting that soon they are going to refuse to access their site with my "outdated" browser. Of course my SeaMonkey browser is up to date (Win 7, SM 2.39); but they don't accept SeaMonkey as an approved browser. I would like to change my User Agent that is sent out to Firefox 30.0 or something similar to spoof them. Could somebody please tell me EXACTLY STEP BY STOP how to do this even for an idiot like me! The alternate is to give up SeaMonkey and I don't want to do that. I tried using a User Agent changer that was supplied in a plugin; but that doesn't work. Right now the true UA is: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39 I just want something that Chase Bank will think is acceptable. Thanks again. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
User agent problem
Chase Bank is insisting that soon they are going to refuse to access their site with my "outdated" browser. Of course my SeaMonkey browser is up to date (Win 7, SM 2.39); but they don't accept SeaMonkey as an approved browser. I would like to change my User Agent that is sent out to Firefox 30.0 or something similar to spoof them. Could somebody please tell me EXACTLY STEP BY STOP how to do this even for an idiot like me! The alternate is to give up SeaMonkey and I don't want to do that. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Printing
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Win-7, SM 2.32, HP Deskjet printer For several months when I click on Print from a web site (airline boarding pass, store coupon etc.) what comes out is a version that is about 50% size. Thus, if there is a bar code, it is too small for the store etc. to read. If I copy paste the exact same URL into Chrome and then click on print from that, I get a full size image with readable bar code. OK, that's an acceptable work-around; but why is this happening every time with SeaMonkey? Is this some sort of bug that only I keep experiencing? Is there some adjustment within SM that I'm not making? SeaMonkey remembers your last print settings until you change them. The next time you need to print, instead of going directly to Print, use Print Preview and set the size and orientation as desired. SM will remember those settings until you change them again. OK, that may have worked. I looked at Print Preview on the original page, and sure enough it was set to 60% size...why, I have no idea. When I changed it to 100%, and then went back and clicked on the Print link it did print out correctly. Now I hope this is really sticky and will apply to all future printing. Thanks to all those who suggested utilizing Print Preview!! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Printing
Win-7, SM 2.32, HP Deskjet printer For several months when I click on Print from a web site (airline boarding pass, store coupon etc.) what comes out is a version that is about 50% size. Thus, if there is a bar code, it is too small for the store etc. to read. If I copy paste the exact same URL into Chrome and then click on print from that, I get a full size image with readable bar code. OK, that's an acceptable work-around; but why is this happening every time with SeaMonkey? Is this some sort of bug that only I keep experiencing? Is there some adjustment within SM that I'm not making? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Chase bank access bug fixed in SM 2.32
NFN Smith wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Could you specify exactly how you added the FireFox user-agent string to the PrefBar. For somebody who is tech stupid, that is. There used to be a way in the Tools menu to manage the user-agent. That hasn't been around for a while. I missed responding to this particular question in a separate reply. In the PrefBar settings, make sure you drag the User Agent setting into Enabled Items section. Then double-click on the User Agent, and you'll get a dialog box that allows you to choose whatever spoofs you want. One minor annoyance is that the defaults offered are several years old, and you'll need to update to settings that are relatively current. The useragentstring.com reference is definitely helpful. If you want a setting for the current version of Firefox, running under Windows 7/64, then you would want: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/35.0 Using the PrefBar Customize, I get the User Agent Extlist box. But I'm not sure how to go from there. I tried putting in the Firefox user agent above in the Value box opposite Real UA and applying that. But it didn't affect the browser message at Chase.com. I know I'm doing something wrong...but I just don't have the competence to know what I'm doing at that level or precisely what I have to do. I'm also afraid of doing something that is irrevocable and would cause other problems. Oh, well. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Chase bank access bug fixed in SM 2.32
Thank you SeaMonkey team! One seriously annoying bug fixed. Still, after several months, the Chase (and also the BofA) sites still have the annoying and false disclaimer on their log-on page: Your browser may not give you the best experience when you're on Chase.com. We recommend that you use any of the following browsers: Internet Explorer 8 or higher, Firefox 25 or higher, Safari 6.0 or higher, and Chrome 31 or higher. I wish there were some easy way to alter the user-agent line to preference the Firefox version, since asking the banks to accept SeaMonkey as a valid browser over and over gets nowhere. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Chase bank access bug fixed in SM 2.32
David H. Durgee wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Thank you SeaMonkey team! One seriously annoying bug fixed. Still, after several months, the Chase (and also the BofA) sites still have the annoying and false disclaimer on their log-on page: Your browser may not give you the best experience when you're on Chase.com. We recommend that you use any of the following browsers: Internet Explorer 8 or higher, Firefox 25 or higher, Safari 6.0 or higher, and Chrome 31 or higher. I wish there were some easy way to alter the user-agent line to preference the Firefox version, since asking the banks to accept SeaMonkey as a valid browser over and over gets nowhere. That is why I copied the FireFox user agent string and added it to PrefBar as an additional user agent. I now tend to leave this set as my user agent string to avoid this very idiotic message there and elsewhere. Could you specify exactly how you added the FireFox user-agent string to the PrefBar. For somebody who is tech stupid, that is. There used to be a way in the Tools menu to manage the user-agent. That hasn't been around for a while. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.31 chase web site
Philip Chee wrote: On 15/12/2014 01:39, A Williams wrote: David H. Durgee wrote: Is this a one-time fixes-it-forever work-around or one that needs to be repeated every time you restart SeaMonkey? Is the restart necessary or just cleaner? I am assuming now that it is identified it will be fixed in the next release, correct? I doubt that Chase is the only site impacted by it. Dave I'm assuming it is an each-time-you-restart-seamonkey job. What it really means is that the developers care *and* know what the problem is. I'd expect the next version of Seamonkey to be fixed. I had a hypothesis on what was causing the problem. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1094714#c17 I wrote a few steps that a non-technical user could do to test this hypothesis. Results confirm that we were right. We now have a quick fix and we need to get this in the hands of our users as soon as possible. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8527843action=edit A longer term fix would be: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1094714#c12 but that would require the involvement of a Gecko developer. And nothing stops us from landing the quick fix. Phil For a non-technical novice, how exactly (step by step) does one utilize the quick fix? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Back to 2.30
Is there a safe way to go back to SM 2.30 without jeopardizing the user profile? (Win-7). Can I just uninstall SM 2.31 and then re-install it using the 2.30 version downloaded (against advice on the site) from the SM archive? I've had to do this only once since Netscape 1.0 and that was long ago; but the Chase Bank bug is just too annoying. Also, can I then avoid an automatic update to 2.31 (which is how it got updated in the first place)? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.31 chase web site
Ron wrote: Just got the 2.31 upgrade now I can't log in to my account on chase.com I hit logon it just reloads the log on page. Works in IE and Seamonkey 2.30 Same thing happening here. This is frustrating. Can I go back to Seamonkey 2.30? Or maybe spoof the browser to firefox (which used to work when bank sites didn't accept SeaMonkey)? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Embedding video in web page
OK, here's my problem. Using SeaMonkey's composer, I created a simple HTML web page to play an embedded video. I've used three video files, an *.mp4, *.ogv and *.webm. I think I have coded the html page correctly. All three videos play fine by themselves in their respective viewers. And when I open the page with both Chrome and I.E. (all for windows 7, so I can't really open the page in OS X) the video plays perfectly. However, when I use Firefox or SeaMonkey to open the HTML page it is out of sync by at least 10-15 frames. I've double checked all three video formats, and they really do play in sync using the VLC media player. I realize this is probably not the right forum to ask this question. But any help here would be appreciated (it's a long video, and I haven't uploaded them to my web host. At this time I'm just playing the page from a folder on my C drive. So, unfortunately I can't post a URL for people to sample.) -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
David E. Ross wrote: On 2/6/2014 11:13 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security detected Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked Cancel and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the Extensions were intact, but the Plugins panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. Get rid of Norton! This is a recurring problem. I never have this problem with AVG AntiVirus Free Edition 2014. On a manual scan, I never have this problem with Malwarebytes. Does anybody have a solution short of getting rid of Norton? I need SeaMonkey...can I go back to version 2.23? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Hitches with 2.24 update
Ken Rudolph wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 2/6/2014 11:13 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security detected Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After five minutes of spinning, I clicked Cancel and the installer terminated. The file that was flagged by NIS was C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll The file size is 299,520 bytes. The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports: File description: NSS freebl Library Type: Application extension File version: 3.15.4.0 Product name: Network Security Services Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC Copyright: Size: 292 KB Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM Language: English (United States) Original filename: freebl3.dll I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried, but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the installer and reinstall manually. I checked my add-ons, and found the Extensions were intact, but the Plugins panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser -- unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check. I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response). I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here, uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps. Get rid of Norton! This is a recurring problem. I never have this problem with AVG AntiVirus Free Edition 2014. On a manual scan, I never have this problem with Malwarebytes. Does anybody have a solution short of getting rid of Norton? I need SeaMonkey...can I go back to version 2.23? I seem to have solved the problem (at least now SeaMonkey loads). I went to Norton 360 and pulled the offending file out of quarantine and re-installed it and checked the box which accepts this .dll file in the future. Then I restarted my Win-7 computer and it worked fine. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
bookmarks
I'm sorry if this is old news; but could somebody explain to me how I can transfer my bookmark toolbar and all my usual bookmarks from my desktop SM 2.22 Win-7 profile to a new version of SM 2.22 Win-8.1 on a new computer? Actually, I got it to work before; but I had to refresh Windows today and lost all the former program files. I'm able to find the SM files in application data on both computers. But I can't seem to find any file which holds bookmarks. Please help me. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: bookmarks
Ken Rudolph wrote: I'm sorry if this is old news; but could somebody explain to me how I can transfer my bookmark toolbar and all my usual bookmarks from my desktop SM 2.22 Win-7 profile to a new version of SM 2.22 Win-8.1 on a new computer? Actually, I got it to work before; but I had to refresh Windows today and lost all the former program files. I'm able to find the SM files in application data on both computers. But I can't seem to find any file which holds bookmarks. Please help me. Hey, I figured it out. places.sqlite! Who could have figured that would be the bookmarks? Anyway, I renamed the old places file in the new computer to old, then downloaded the file from my desktop profile to the laptop profile, and voila! I hope I haven't screwed anything up; but it seems to be working now. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash
Ken Rudolph wrote: I know this sounds like a broken record; but my Shockwave Flash plugin is *constantly* crashing. I'm sure by now they are thoroughly sick of the crash reports (if anybody is actually caring where ever these things go) since I send it every time flash crashes which is 10 or more times a day. Win-7, SM 2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.202 (which is supposed to be up to date, but it just gets worse and worse.) Is there anything I can do about this? It's getting so serious that I'm going to have to quit SeaMonkey after over 15 years with Netscape Mozilla. As an additional note: The identical flash plugin is *not* crashing in Firefox 21.0. However, I hardly ever use Firefox. Is that the answer? Discard SeaMonkey entirely? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Flash
I know this sounds like a broken record; but my Shockwave Flash plugin is *constantly* crashing. I'm sure by now they are thoroughly sick of the crash reports (if anybody is actually caring where ever these things go) since I send it every time flash crashes which is 10 or more times a day. Win-7, SM 2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.202 (which is supposed to be up to date, but it just gets worse and worse.) Is there anything I can do about this? It's getting so serious that I'm going to have to quit SeaMonkey after over 15 years with Netscape Mozilla. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Quick find
How do I disable Quick Find (links only) which seems to be new. This is a useless feature for me. I used to be able to (on some sites) jump to the next entry with an n and go back one with a b. That was useful. Now all I get is this quick jump to the letter in a link. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.
Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help. I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and similiar softwares installed. http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky. Thank you in advance. :) I'm troubled by frequent Flash crashes with the latest version (W7+, SM 2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.169). I suppose I have to go to a previous version since this has only started with the most recent update. Any suggestions where to find a version that doesn't crash and which is the best one to use for Seamonkey? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.
Ken Rudolph wrote: Ant wrote: Hello. Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help. I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and similiar softwares installed. http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky. Thank you in advance. :) I'm troubled by frequent Flash crashes with the latest version (W7+, SM 2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.169). I suppose I have to go to a previous version since this has only started with the most recent update. Any suggestions where to find a version that doesn't crash and which is the best one to use for Seamonkey? OK, I seem to have figured it out myself, installing version 11.6.602.180 from the Adobe site. I know it is an unsupported older version; but at least Flash has stopped crashing every time I open a window with a Flash video. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Is SeaMonkey useful in windows 8? For instance, I can't find application data anywhere in my computer. What I want to do is use my bookmark file from windows 7 seamonkey 2.16, and have seamonkey on my windows 8 machine load up with the same bookmarks. That's one place to start, anyway. Any idea how to do this? How about this? Copy your bookmarks.html file from the Win7 computer to your Win8 desktop or someplace obvious where you can find it. Then have SM on your Win8 machine import it. (If you like, wipe out all its existing bookmarks first.) CTRL-5 to open the address book, then Tools | Import... The program naturally knows where it saves its data, so it'll put the imported bookmarks in the right place. But if you're curious, do Edit | Mail Newsgroup Account Settings... | Server Settings (for one of your accounts), and at the bottom of the dialog you'll see something like this (with your name in it, of course!): Local directory: C:\Users\Paul B. Gallagher\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\... This path should give you enough information to locate your profile. Oh, I have no problem finding my profile. But there is no bookmark.html file at all (and adding it does nothing). There's a bookmark backup directory which has some sort of *.json file. But nothing like bookmark.html. Even when I add bookmarks, no bookmark file shows up in the SM AddData folder. This isn't the only problem I'm having with Win-8. I'm unable to establish contact with my e-mail server also. Oh, well. Is it possible that SeaMonkey isn't ready for Win-8? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8
Daniel wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Is SeaMonkey useful in windows 8? For instance, I can't find application data anywhere in my computer. What I want to do is use my bookmark file from windows 7 seamonkey 2.16, and have seamonkey on my windows 8 machine load up with the same bookmarks. That's one place to start, anyway. Any idea how to do this? How about this? Copy your bookmarks.html file from the Win7 computer to your Win8 desktop or someplace obvious where you can find it. Then have SM on your Win8 machine import it. (If you like, wipe out all its existing bookmarks first.) CTRL-5 to open the address book, then Tools | Import... The program naturally knows where it saves its data, so it'll put the imported bookmarks in the right place. But if you're curious, do Edit | Mail Newsgroup Account Settings... | Server Settings (for one of your accounts), and at the bottom of the dialog you'll see something like this (with your name in it, of course!): Local directory: C:\Users\Paul B. Gallagher\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\... This path should give you enough information to locate your profile. Oh, I have no problem finding my profile. But there is no bookmark.html file at all (and adding it does nothing). There's a bookmark backup directory which has some sort of *.json file. But nothing like bookmark.html. Even when I add bookmarks, no bookmark file shows up in the SM AddData folder. This isn't the only problem I'm having with Win-8. I'm unable to establish contact with my e-mail server also. Oh, well. Is it possible that SeaMonkey isn't ready for Win-8? Ken, in its natural state, SM stores your bookmarks as part of a file called places.sqlite. If you want a bookmarks.html file, you can do this in your Bookmarks Manager (Bookmarks-Manage Bookmarks) by selecting Tools-Export HTML. At least it is in Win7 Linux. OK, that seemed to get my old bookmarks in the side panel. But so far I haven't figured out how to get the same links I used to have on the toolbar. But this is a major step forward. Thanks. --Ken ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Windows 8
Is SeaMonkey useful in windows 8? For instance, I can't find application data anywhere in my computer. What I want to do is use my bookmark file from windows 7 seamonkey 2.16, and have seamonkey on my windows 8 machine load up with the same bookmarks. That's one place to start, anyway. Any idea how to do this? By the way, when I tried to download SeaMonkey, Windows insisted that it was going to harm my Surface Pro, and I had to bypass the warning even to get the program. It seems to work ok; but I would really like to have my bookmarks! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Java SE 6 U38
My version of SeaMonkey (Win-7 x64, SM 2.15) continues to show in About Plugins that it still contains the previous Java SE6 U37, which is supposedly vulnerable to blah blah blah. I updated successfully (I think) to U38 from the Oracle site, but SeaMonkey continues to show U37 as the plugin. Did I do something wrong? Any way to make U38 the SeaMonkey plug-in? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java SE 6 U38
stango wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: My version of SeaMonkey (Win-7 x64, SM 2.15) continues to show in About Plugins that it still contains the previous Java SE6 U37, which is supposedly vulnerable to blah blah blah. I updated successfully (I think) to U38 from the Oracle site, but SeaMonkey continues to show U37 as the plugin. Did I do something wrong? Any way to make U38 the SeaMonkey plug-in? You are running 64 bit Windows and will need to install BOTH the 32 bit AND the 64 bit versions. I don't get this. The two versions for Windows on the Oracle site are X64 and X86. I downloaded and installed the x64 version (59.8MB); but do you mean that I also have to download and install the x86 version (69.74MB)? Is that what you mean by the 32 bit version? And *that* will cause SeaMonkey to upgrade to the U38 version? By the way, I reloaded SM and also did a soft re-boot. That didn't work to revise the Java plugin. Is Java actually worth all this effort? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Java SE 6 U38
WaltS wrote: On 01/14/2013 01:30 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: stango wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: My version of SeaMonkey (Win-7 x64, SM 2.15) continues to show in About Plugins that it still contains the previous Java SE6 U37, which is supposedly vulnerable to blah blah blah. I updated successfully (I think) to U38 from the Oracle site, but SeaMonkey continues to show U37 as the plugin. Did I do something wrong? Any way to make U38 the SeaMonkey plug-in? You are running 64 bit Windows and will need to install BOTH the 32 bit AND the 64 bit versions. I don't get this. The two versions for Windows on the Oracle site are X64 and X86. I downloaded and installed the x64 version (59.8MB); but do you mean that I also have to download and install the x86 version (69.74MB)? Is that what you mean by the 32 bit version? And *that* will cause SeaMonkey to upgrade to the U38 version? By the way, I reloaded SM and also did a soft re-boot. That didn't work to revise the Java plugin. Is Java actually worth all this effort? I believe you need the 32-bit version (x86) since SeaMonkey is a 32-bit application. Do you go to any sites that require the plugin? If you do, then it is worth the effort. Thank you all, that worked! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: youtube
Ed Mullen wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Larry wrote: Larry S. wrote: Larry wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Larry wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: A Williams wrote: I came on here this evening to see if the issues with the newest Flash version and Mizilla-based browsers had been resolved (old Flash works, new does not). Looks like the ball is still with Adobe. Dave and Colette Hirsh wrote: I guess no one uses seamonkey for videos on youtube. Kinda sad that seamonkey with its rich history can't play videos. I feel like its 1982 all over again. If I wanted to use IE I would not be trying to use seamonkey so that is not really helpful. Videos on firefox are not working either. I updated Shockwave Flash plugin on July 12 to version 11.3.300.265. Windows 32-bit. Works fine on You Tube and elsewhere. I updated today to 11.3.300.265 for SeaMonkey. Still cannot play you tube videos. OS is Vista Home Premium 32-bit Larry If you go to Tools - Add-ons manager - click on Plugins, do you show that current version of Shockwave Flash plugin? What happens on You Tube when you try to play a video? Shows Shockwave Flash 11.3.300.265. When I click the Play on the screen it says An error occurred. Please try again later. This happened on several videos I tried watching. There is also an error loading annotations message. Larry Just to make sure--are you certain that you downloaded the Flash version for Mozilla and other plug-in based browsers, and not the one for IE (both have the same version number)? Larry (the other one!) I verified the size of the file I downloaded to make sure it was the correct one. I'm pretty sure that the Shockwave Flash you actually need is 11.3.300.262 . Yes, it is a previous version; but it works with SeaMonkey. It's available on the Adobe site; but it has to be searched for. We went through all this a few weeks ago. Please see my post saying that the latest version (11.3.300.265) is working in SM 2.10.1. It also works fine in Firefox 14.0.1. IMHO downgrading to a previous version in not good advice. Adobe's updates are frequently for security issues. Downgrading is asking for trouble. OK, per your advice, I'm now running ver. 11.3.300.265 in SM 2.11 and Flash is working fine. However, my advice was for the original poster...what I suggested is a kludge that did work for me and others when we had the same problem that he apparently still has. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: youtube
Larry wrote: Larry S. wrote: Larry wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Larry wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: A Williams wrote: I came on here this evening to see if the issues with the newest Flash version and Mizilla-based browsers had been resolved (old Flash works, new does not). Looks like the ball is still with Adobe. Dave and Colette Hirsh wrote: I guess no one uses seamonkey for videos on youtube. Kinda sad that seamonkey with its rich history can't play videos. I feel like its 1982 all over again. If I wanted to use IE I would not be trying to use seamonkey so that is not really helpful. Videos on firefox are not working either. I updated Shockwave Flash plugin on July 12 to version 11.3.300.265. Windows 32-bit. Works fine on You Tube and elsewhere. I updated today to 11.3.300.265 for SeaMonkey. Still cannot play you tube videos. OS is Vista Home Premium 32-bit Larry If you go to Tools - Add-ons manager - click on Plugins, do you show that current version of Shockwave Flash plugin? What happens on You Tube when you try to play a video? Shows Shockwave Flash 11.3.300.265. When I click the Play on the screen it says An error occurred. Please try again later. This happened on several videos I tried watching. There is also an error loading annotations message. Larry Just to make sure--are you certain that you downloaded the Flash version for Mozilla and other plug-in based browsers, and not the one for IE (both have the same version number)? Larry (the other one!) I verified the size of the file I downloaded to make sure it was the correct one. I'm pretty sure that the Shockwave Flash you actually need is 11.3.300.262 . Yes, it is a previous version; but it works with SeaMonkey. It's available on the Adobe site; but it has to be searched for. We went through all this a few weeks ago. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.9
Daniel wrote: bfr...@skybeam.com wrote: On Friday, June 15, 2012 9:28:26 AM UTC-6, Ken Rudolph wrote: Is it possible to go back to SM 2.9 since SM 2.10 isn't working for me (multiple problems with Flash e-mail composer)? If it is possible, where can I find it, and should I uninstall SM 2.10 first? -- Ken Rudolph bfrost, are you trying to ask the same question as Ken asked?? If yes, you can get any SM version you need from the links at the bottom of http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.10.1. Make sure you disable the auto-update functions as I advised Ken in a post in this thread. Just to be clear, all my problems with SM 2.10.1 (Flash and Composer...which turned out to be a problem with my keyboard and nothing to do with SeaMonkey at all) were cleared up with help from this group. I did briefly go back to 2.9; but I'm quite relieved that I'm able to run the most recent version with no further problems. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: flash player .....
dirk wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Evan Davidson wrote: dirk wrote: Hi, I can't get flash player to work in Seamonkey, uninstall, reinstall, no cure Anyone? Some sites display this message: Error loading or parsing config file. Please check 'version' attribute in ugconfig node. version must be 1.1. Others don't tell me anything, just no play. Please.. See: news://news.mozilla.org:119/9rudnamyjifznxnsnz2dnuvz_vcdn...@mozilla.org Also, after making sure that your installed Flash version is the Mozilla fix: Flash 11.3.300.262, uninstall Real Player through the Windows Control Panel (if you'r e running SM in Windows). That seems to work for most people if they have any Real Player dlls in their plugins. Checked that version OK, de-installed Real Player, and hey presto, flash works, but what now? I want to use Real player as well??! Re-install Real Player? Honestly, I don't know. I also have some old video files which only seem to play on Real Player. If I could be assured that Real Player would not automatically install any of its .dll's into SeaMonkey as plugins, I would re-install Real Player. In the meantime, I don't want to risk it. I'll leave that for a later time (or some instructions on how to remove any unwanted plug-ins that automatically install into SM.) I wonder if Real Player knows of its compatibility problem with Flash in SeaMonkey (and for that matter with Firefox and I.E., if my experience is shared by others). -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Win 7, SM 2.10.1 So, despite everything, apparently Flash got updated to 11.3 AGAIN, this time without my permission. And of course all the usability of flash files in SeaMonkey disappeared. This time I learned from my previous mistakes. Rather than going back to the last Windows restore point (sort of like killing a mosquito with a shotgun) I uninstalled version 11.3, went to the Adobe site and found the previous 11.2 version (it was a 159M zip file, of course, just to make things difficult). Downloaded that, unzipped it and chose the Netscape version of the 64bit .exe program, installed that...and lo, and behold, I have my Flash videos back! Now when is somebody going to get Adobe to fix this? Obviously it still is broken and this is getting really old now. I guess it doesn't help that for some reason sometimes the Flash 11.3 version works for some people. But I know I'm not alone...and it has happened to me TWICE! I can't believe there isn't a bigger hue and cry about this, and Adobe isn't begging our forgiveness, let alone fixing the problem. I have Win 7 and SM 2.10.1, and have never had a problem with Flash (my current version is 11.3). So there must be something else involved. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 Same. Windows 7 Pro SP1 (64-bit), fully patched. Same. Could you post some links to sites that don't work? Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses Flash. Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey, Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a notice that An error occurred. Please try again later sometimes just blank. The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash sites work, no problem. How about a list of your add-ons? I don't think I have any add-ons. At least none that I have purposely added. If there's something peculiar about your setup, that would explain why there's no hue and cry -- because the rest of us aren't suffering. From previous threads (started when hbogo.com wouldn't approximately a week ago) I know that others have this problem too (but not everybody). Robert Kaiser responded that Adobe knows of the problem and is working on it. I've also read elsewhere that both Mozilla and Adobe are working together to fix this but can't find the solution. I'm glad for you that you don't have this problem. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
WLS wrote: On 06/23/2012 11:15 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Win 7, SM 2.10.1 So, despite everything, apparently Flash got updated to 11.3 AGAIN, this time without my permission. And of course all the usability of flash files in SeaMonkey disappeared. This time I learned from my previous mistakes. Rather than going back to the last Windows restore point (sort of like killing a mosquito with a shotgun) I uninstalled version 11.3, went to the Adobe site and found the previous 11.2 version (it was a 159M zip file, of course, just to make things difficult). Downloaded that, unzipped it and chose the Netscape version of the 64bit .exe program, installed that...and lo, and behold, I have my Flash videos back! Now when is somebody going to get Adobe to fix this? Obviously it still is broken and this is getting really old now. I guess it doesn't help that for some reason sometimes the Flash 11.3 version works for some people. But I know I'm not alone...and it has happened to me TWICE! I can't believe there isn't a bigger hue and cry about this, and Adobe isn't begging our forgiveness, let alone fixing the problem. I have Win 7 and SM 2.10.1, and have never had a problem with Flash (my current version is 11.3). So there must be something else involved. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 Same. Windows 7 Pro SP1 (64-bit), fully patched. Same. Could you post some links to sites that don't work? Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses Flash. Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey, Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a notice that An error occurred. Please try again later sometimes just blank. The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash sites work, no problem. How about a list of your add-ons? I don't think I have any add-ons. At least none that I have purposely added. If there's something peculiar about your setup, that would explain why there's no hue and cry -- because the rest of us aren't suffering. From previous threads (started when hbogo.com wouldn't approximately a week ago) I know that others have this problem too (but not everybody). Robert Kaiser responded that Adobe knows of the problem and is working on it. I've also read elsewhere that both Mozilla and Adobe are working together to fix this but can't find the solution. I'm glad for you that you don't have this problem. The solution was found according to this news article. http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Adobe-updates-Flash-Player-11-3-to-fix-Firefox-crashing-problem-1623783.html I'm not sure that this is a fix that works yet. My problem was never that SM or Firefox crashed, just that Flash videos didn't play. However, I'm wondering if Real Player isn't a problem. I notice four different Real Player dlls in my plugins. I also read that installing Flash 11.2 is not a good solution because of vulnerabilities. So I'm going to deal with this by 1) trying the new Flash 11.3 download. If that doesn't work, I'm going to uninstall Real Player. If that doesn't work I'll try Flash player 10.3. If that doesn't work I'm screwed. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
Ken Rudolph wrote: WLS wrote: On 06/23/2012 11:15 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Win 7, SM 2.10.1 So, despite everything, apparently Flash got updated to 11.3 AGAIN, this time without my permission. And of course all the usability of flash files in SeaMonkey disappeared. This time I learned from my previous mistakes. Rather than going back to the last Windows restore point (sort of like killing a mosquito with a shotgun) I uninstalled version 11.3, went to the Adobe site and found the previous 11.2 version (it was a 159M zip file, of course, just to make things difficult). Downloaded that, unzipped it and chose the Netscape version of the 64bit .exe program, installed that...and lo, and behold, I have my Flash videos back! Now when is somebody going to get Adobe to fix this? Obviously it still is broken and this is getting really old now. I guess it doesn't help that for some reason sometimes the Flash 11.3 version works for some people. But I know I'm not alone...and it has happened to me TWICE! I can't believe there isn't a bigger hue and cry about this, and Adobe isn't begging our forgiveness, let alone fixing the problem. I have Win 7 and SM 2.10.1, and have never had a problem with Flash (my current version is 11.3). So there must be something else involved. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 Same. Windows 7 Pro SP1 (64-bit), fully patched. Same. Could you post some links to sites that don't work? Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses Flash. Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey, Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a notice that An error occurred. Please try again later sometimes just blank. The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash sites work, no problem. How about a list of your add-ons? I don't think I have any add-ons. At least none that I have purposely added. If there's something peculiar about your setup, that would explain why there's no hue and cry -- because the rest of us aren't suffering. From previous threads (started when hbogo.com wouldn't approximately a week ago) I know that others have this problem too (but not everybody). Robert Kaiser responded that Adobe knows of the problem and is working on it. I've also read elsewhere that both Mozilla and Adobe are working together to fix this but can't find the solution. I'm glad for you that you don't have this problem. The solution was found according to this news article. http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Adobe-updates-Flash-Player-11-3-to-fix-Firefox-crashing-problem-1623783.html I'm not sure that this is a fix that works yet. My problem was never that SM or Firefox crashed, just that Flash videos didn't play. However, I'm wondering if Real Player isn't a problem. I notice four different Real Player dlls in my plugins. I also read that installing Flash 11.2 is not a good solution because of vulnerabilities. So I'm going to deal with this by 1) trying the new Flash 11.3 download. If that doesn't work, I'm going to uninstall Real Player. If that doesn't work I'll try Flash player 10.3. If that doesn't work I'm screwed. OK, I installed the new Flash 11.3.300.262 (which was the version that self-installed yesterday, actually; and I still had the problem with Flash). Unsurprisingly, the problem that I've been having with Flash videos on all sites came back just as I suspected it would. So then I UNINSTALLED Real Player entirely. That removed all the 4 Real Player program dlls from my SeaMonkey plugins... And VOILA! Flash now works on every site. Hopefully this tactic will solve the problem for anybody else who has it. Thanks mozilla.support.seamonkey group! I probably wouldn't have found the problem without following up on this last link. Who needs Real Player, anyway? I'll take my time before I try using *that* program again. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses Flash. Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey, Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a notice that An error occurred. Please try again later sometimes just blank. The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash sites work, no problem. If the problem affects every browser, it's not a SeaMonkey problem, it's a Flash problem. So downgrading your browser won't help. I'm going to assume you read the rest of this thread. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: flash player .....
Evan Davidson wrote: dirk wrote: Hi, I can't get flash player to work in Seamonkey, uninstall, reinstall, no cure Anyone? Some sites display this message: Error loading or parsing config file. Please check 'version' attribute in ugconfig node. version must be 1.1. Others don't tell me anything, just no play. Please.. See: news://news.mozilla.org:119/9rudnamyjifznxnsnz2dnuvz_vcdn...@mozilla.org Also, after making sure that your installed Flash version is the Mozilla fix: Flash 11.3.300.262, uninstall Real Player through the Windows Control Panel (if you're running SM in Windows). That seems to work for most people if they have any Real Player dlls in their plugins. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
Win 7, SM 2.10.1 So, despite everything, apparently Flash got updated to 11.3 AGAIN, this time without my permission. And of course all the usability of flash files in SeaMonkey disappeared. This time I learned from my previous mistakes. Rather than going back to the last Windows restore point (sort of like killing a mosquito with a shotgun) I uninstalled version 11.3, went to the Adobe site and found the previous 11.2 version (it was a 159M zip file, of course, just to make things difficult). Downloaded that, unzipped it and chose the Netscape version of the 64bit .exe program, installed that...and lo, and behold, I have my Flash videos back! Now when is somebody going to get Adobe to fix this? Obviously it still is broken and this is getting really old now. I guess it doesn't help that for some reason sometimes the Flash 11.3 version works for some people. But I know I'm not alone...and it has happened to me TWICE! I can't believe there isn't a bigger hue and cry about this, and Adobe isn't begging our forgiveness, let alone fixing the problem. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.9
Ken Rudolph wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Ken Rudolph schrieb: Is it possible to go back to SM 2.9 since SM 2.10 isn't working for me (multiple problems with Flash e-mail composer)? The Flash problems are not caused by the SeaMonkey update, they will happen in 2.9 as well if you update to the newer Flash version (Adobe is working on fixing those). Good to know. Then I'll update again to SM 2.10 soon. I just won't download the Adobe Flash update. All I can say is thank ghu for restore points and the ability to go back in time. Just deleting the latest Flash update didn't solve the problem. Just for completion's sake: I let the SM 2.10 installation update run when prompted this morning. None of the Flash problems re-occurred. I'm not going to allow any Adobe Flash updates (given the option) until I get an all clear on this group. Which may mean never. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hbo site problems
Jim Taylor wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: I seem to be unable to load http://www.hbogo.com in SeaMonkey. All I get is a spinning logo and the site never loads. I'm having no problem accessing that site using Google Chrome. For that matter, even http://www.hbo.com just shows a white screen in SM, but loads in Chrome (at least on my computer...last week I had no problems). Anybody else having this problem? Any ideas how to make it work in SM? I'm running SM 2.10 on Win-7 Ult. I did an automatic install of a new version of Shockwave Flash this morning...it's listed in Enabled plugins as File: NPSWF32_3_300_257.DLL, Version: 11.3.300.257, Shockwave Flash 11.3 r300 . Could that be a problem? It works for me on SM 2.10 Windows 7 Home Premium Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 Firefox/13.0 SeaMonkey/2.10 using that version of flash (File: NPSWF32_11_3_300_257.dll Version: 11.3.300.257 Shockwave Flash 11.3 I give up. I can't get any flash videos to play in SM (they all play in Chrome). I even uninstalled SM and all Adobe flash stuff and reinstalled them. I'm still showing the correct plug-in info for Shockwave Flash. Everything tells me it is up to date. But now, even in Facebook or the IMDb when I try to run any videos in SM I just get a blank white screen. I guess I'll just have to revert to Chrome for all web browsing. This is very, very disturbing to me (I've been a Netscape/Mozilla Suite user since the beginning and have never had a problem like this.) -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hbo site problems
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: I guess I'll just have to revert to Chrome for all web browsing. Have you tried Firefox? IMO, much better, and more private than Chrome. You don't want to sell your soul to Google, do you? I just downloaded Firefox and tried it. #1, it asked me if I wanted to import bookmarks from IE or Chrome or none. So much for my SeaMonkey bookmarks. #2, I had the SAME EXACT PROBLEM with Flash videos, just got a white screen on the IMDb and Facebook and An error occurred. Please try again later on You Tube (which is exactly what happens in SM). I'm still not having the problem with Chrome. I'm at my wits end. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hbo site problems
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: I guess I'll just have to revert to Chrome for all web browsing. Have you tried Firefox? IMO, much better, and more private than Chrome. You don't want to sell your soul to Google, do you? I just downloaded Firefox and tried it. #1, it asked me if I wanted to import bookmarks from IE or Chrome or none. So much for my SeaMonkey bookmarks. #2, I had the SAME EXACT PROBLEM with Flash videos, just got a white screen on the IMDb and Facebook and An error occurred. Please try again later on You Tube (which is exactly what happens in SM). I'm still not having the problem with Chrome. I'm at my wits end. Did you make sure Flash was installed/recognized in/by Firefox? Check the Add-Ons/Plugins page (I guess you're familiar with that by now. g) Firefox Plugins show Shockwave Flash 11.3.300.257. And checking to see if it is up to date shows Shockwave Flash is up to date. Still, I am not able to run ANY flash videos in Firefox OR SeaMonkey. A wit is a long way... you have plenty left! No, I'm running out. I have no problem with those videos in Firefox, SeaMonkey, Chromium, Opera, Dillo. Are you allowing JavaScript and cookies? ..might have something to do with it. I'm allowing all cookies. I can't find JavaScript...but I know that I never disabled it. I didn't have this problem with SeaMonkey 2.9. Is it possible to go back? Would that even help? I'm scared to even try. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.9
Is it possible to go back to SM 2.9 since SM 2.10 isn't working for me (multiple problems with Flash e-mail composer)? If it is possible, where can I find it, and should I uninstall SM 2.10 first? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.9
Ken Rudolph wrote: Is it possible to go back to SM 2.9 since SM 2.10 isn't working for me (multiple problems with Flash e-mail composer)? If it is possible, where can I find it, and should I uninstall SM 2.10 first? About the Flash problems. Using YouTube I found a window called Flash Player Settings Manager. It says: ActiveX Version: Not installed...Plug-in Version: 11.3.300.257. Could it be possible that what I need is to install an ActiveX Version? If so, where can I find this? In the meantime, no videos run in YouTube, Facebook, IMDb etc. in SM or in Facebook. Just a white-out screen. This problem didn't exist three days ago. SM 2.10, Win-7 Ult. Yes, I know, nobody else seems to have this problem; but I can run videos in IE and Chrome. The problem only seems to exist in SM and Firefox. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.9
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Is it possible to go back to SM 2.9 since SM 2.10 isn't working for me (multiple problems with Flash e-mail composer)? If it is possible, where can I find it, and should I uninstall SM 2.10 first? About the Flash problems. Using YouTube I found a window called Flash Player Settings Manager. It says: ActiveX Version: Not installed...Plug-in Version: 11.3.300.257. Could it be possible that what I need is to install an ActiveX Version? If so, where can I find this? Try Start /Run /DXdiag; it may provide a useful lead. Philip Taylor I don't even know what to look for. However, I just found another problem. I tried to stream an audio at http://www.radiolab.org/2009/oct/19/ . In IE I get a box which plays an hour audio file. Nothing shows up in SM except for a Stream link. When I click on it I get http://www.radiolab.org/audio/m3u/91693/ which is a black screen titled (audio/x-mpegurl Object) and nothing. I have the feeling that all these problems are connected, that something is wrong somewhere. Again, all these pages work in IE and Chrome. But they don't work in both SeaMonkey and Firefox. Please, somebody tell me what to do! -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.9
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Philip TAYLOR wrote: I don't even know what to look for. Any errors or problems that DxDiag reports. Every tab says: no problems found -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.9
Ken Rudolph wrote: Is it possible to go back to SM 2.9 since SM 2.10 isn't working for me (multiple problems with Flash e-mail composer)? If it is possible, where can I find it, and should I uninstall SM 2.10 first? OK, I was desperate. I did a Windows restore back to the point where I had no problems (which was 6/5/2012). Right now I have none of the latest Windows updates, and it restored to Seamonkey 2.9.1. Shockwave Flash is restored to NPSWF32_11_2_202_235.dll, Version: 11.2.202.235, Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202. And you know what? YouTube, hbogo.com all the things that *didn't* work before are working now. I'm not sure where the problem happened, which update screwed the system. Was it SeaMonkey 2.10? Flash? Windows Update? My feeling is that I have to do the Windows Update first, then see what happens. Then update SeaMonkey, finally Flash. I'm almost afraid to try anything. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.9
Jim Taylor wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Snip About the Flash problems. Using YouTube I found a window called Flash Player Settings Manager. It says: ActiveX Version: Not installed...Plug-in Version: 11.3.300.257. Could it be possible that what I need is to install an ActiveX Version? If so, where can I find this? Snip The ActiveX version is for IE, it's not used for SeaMonkey or Firefox. Did you upgrade to 2.10? If so I would download the full version and reinstall. You can get it at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ . If you really want to go back to 2.9.1 you can get it from http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.9.1 . I think I would uninstall SeaMonkey, uninstall Flash, reinstall Flash, and then reinstall SeaMonkey. By the way, before doing the Windows restore to 6/5/12, I did uninstall SM 2.10 and uninstalled all the Flash stuff and re-installed them from fresh downloads (though I did the re-install in the opposite order). That didn't change anything. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.9
Ken Rudolph wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Is it possible to go back to SM 2.9 since SM 2.10 isn't working for me (multiple problems with Flash e-mail composer)? If it is possible, where can I find it, and should I uninstall SM 2.10 first? OK, I was desperate. I did a Windows restore back to the point where I had no problems (which was 6/5/2012). Right now I have none of the latest Windows updates, and it restored to Seamonkey 2.9.1. Shockwave Flash is restored to NPSWF32_11_2_202_235.dll, Version: 11.2.202.235, Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202. And you know what? YouTube, hbogo.com all the things that *didn't* work before are working now. Windows update went ok, no change, still getting videos. I'm tempted to leave well enough alone and not change anything else. Is there any way to avoid an automatic update to SM 2.10? I think that in the past it was updated without my explicit permission. I know that the Flash update does ask me before it does anything. I'm not sure why I should do any more updating at all. Things are working fine now, why tempt fate? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.9
Robert Kaiser wrote: Ken Rudolph schrieb: Is it possible to go back to SM 2.9 since SM 2.10 isn't working for me (multiple problems with Flash e-mail composer)? The Flash problems are not caused by the SeaMonkey update, they will happen in 2.9 as well if you update to the newer Flash version (Adobe is working on fixing those). Good to know. Then I'll update again to SM 2.10 soon. I just won't download the Adobe Flash update. All I can say is thank ghu for restore points and the ability to go back in time. Just deleting the latest Flash update didn't solve the problem. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
hbo site problems
I seem to be unable to load http://www.hbogo.com in SeaMonkey. All I get is a spinning logo and the site never loads. I'm having no problem accessing that site using Google Chrome. For that matter, even http://www.hbo.com just shows a white screen in SM, but loads in Chrome (at least on my computer...last week I had no problems). Anybody else having this problem? Any ideas how to make it work in SM? I'm running SM 2.10 on Win-7 Ult. I did an automatic install of a new version of Shockwave Flash this morning...it's listed in Enabled plugins as File: NPSWF32_3_300_257.DLL, Version: 11.3.300.257, Shockwave Flash 11.3 r300 . Could that be a problem? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hbo site problems
David E. Ross wrote: On 6/14/12 7:07 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote: I seem to be unable to load http://www.hbogo.com in SeaMonkey. All I get is a spinning logo and the site never loads. I'm having no problem accessing that site using Google Chrome. For that matter, even http://www.hbo.com just shows a white screen in SM, but loads in Chrome (at least on my computer...last week I had no problems). Anybody else having this problem? Any ideas how to make it work in SM? I'm running SM 2.10 on Win-7 Ult. I did an automatic install of a new version of Shockwave Flash this morning...it's listed in Enabled plugins as File: NPSWF32_3_300_257.DLL, Version: 11.3.300.257, Shockwave Flash 11.3 r300 . Could that be a problem? Windows XP Home Edition SP3 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 SeaMonkey/2.10 Flash 11.3 r300(257) (11.3.300.257) It works for me. Is it possible you have FlashBlock enabled? When I first go to http://www.hbogo.com, most of my browser window is filled with a Flash presentation. I doubt that I have FlashBlock enabled. How would I even know? In any case, even though I install Flash, I can't get the Adobe test site to play the animation with SM (again, it plays fine in Chrome.) Have you tried going to http://www.hbogo.com in Safe Mode? Yes, nothing is different. When I go to http://www.hbo.com instead of http://www.hbogo.com, I get redirected to http://www.hbo.com/html/error/browser_message_e.html?return=http://www.hbo.com/, which is a page with the following under the HBO logo: The browser you are using is not recommended It appears you are currently using SeaMonkey 2.10 which is not fully supported by this site. To optimize your viewing experience, please view HBO.com in one of the following browsers: Internet Explorer 7.0+ - Get Latest Firefox 4.0+ - Get Latest Google Chrome 10.0+ - Get Latest If you choose to continue viewing the website with your current browser, you may encounter problems. Don't prompt me to upgrade again. Continue to HBO.com The next-to-last line above has a checkbox. I had to type the last line above manually; it's actually an image that is a link. When I selected that link, I got the actual http://www.hbo.com/, again with a very large Flash presentation. Notice that HBO is still touting Firefox 4.0 and IE7!! I don't get the error page initially. When I use your link to the error page it says It appears you are currently using Firefox 13.0 etc. rather than SeaMonkey 2.10. And then when I click on the Continue to HBO.com I still only get a white page. When I spoof Firefox 13.0, I go directly to http://www.hbo.com/ without any redirection to http://www.hbo.com/html/error/browser_message_e.html?return=http://www.hbo.com/. That raises the question: Have you disabled Advertise Firefox compatibility (as I have done)? I have no idea what you mean. Obviously the site thinks I'm using Firefox 13.0, which means that I probably haven't disabled Advertise Firefox compatibility. For what it is worth, last week I had no problem accessing hbogo.com with SeaMonkey. Now I can't even get the error page. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Safe Mode
Win XP, SM 2.6.1 On my laptop, for some reason I'm set to load SM in safe mode. I'm not sure what that means; but instead of loading SM directly I get a box to disable permanently some various things. I don't think I want this option activated. But I don't have any idea how it came about in the first place, nor how to go back to normal mode (should I?) Any advice would be helpful. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Problem with find
SM 2.5, Win-7. For a while now I've had the problem that whenever I control-F (find) on a web site and start to type something in the little box under the tabs line that SM provides, that the program goes unresponsive, the window turns white, and SM effectively crashes. This is very annoying. I always hesitate to call a bug a bug; but do other people have this problem? If not, am I doing something wrong? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with find
Hartmut Figge wrote: Ken Rudolph: SM 2.5, Win-7. For a while now I've had the problem that whenever I control-F (find) on a web site and start to type something in the little box under the tabs line that SM provides, that the program goes unresponsive, the window turns white, and SM effectively crashes. Never occurred to me. This is very annoying. I always hesitate to call a bug a bug; but do other people have this problem? If not, am I doing something wrong? Did you test with safe-mode? I tested it in safe-mode and it didn't crash. Then I re-tested it again in regular mode and, lo and behold the program didn't crash. Maybe 2.5 fixed it, and the previous crash this afternoon which precipitated this question was an aberration. Anyway, sorry to have brought up what apparently is a non-problem. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.5
I see no notice here that SeaMonkey 2.5 release version is out. However, tonight I got an automatic download and install of the program. I think that I'm running SM 2.5. However, is it possible that I was sent a bogus release version and am running a beta instead? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
URL crashes SeaMonkey
I've been accessing this site for months. Suddenly (starting yesterday) the site is crashing my SeaMonkey browser. It loads fine in Chrome, however. http://www.nytimes.com/pages/crosswords/index.html Is there something I can do about this? Does that happen for others? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: URL crashes SeaMonkey
WLS wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: I've been accessing this site for months. Suddenly (starting yesterday) the site is crashing my SeaMonkey browser. It loads fine in Chrome, however. http://www.nytimes.com/pages/crosswords/index.html Is there something I can do about this? Does that happen for others? Didn't crash on me. What does the crash report say? Enter about:crashes in the address bar. Best yet provide a link to the submitted crash report in a reply. The crash report doesn't show any indication of the current incidents of the program crashing. However, what happens is that every time I click on this link SeaMonkey and all its open windows suddenly close. When I try to click on SM to re-open it I get a window which starts out: Your previous SeaMonkey session closed unexpectedly. SM version 2.4.1, Windows 7. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: WebGL demos
WLS wrote: cmcadams wrote: Among the advantages of staying current on SM (hey, it can't ALL be bugs and angst) are these particularly nifty, IMHO, WebGL examples: https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/sdk/demos/webkit/Earth.html https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/sdk/demos/google/shiny-teapot/index.html From here: http://www.khronos.org/webgl/wiki/Demo_Repository First you need current supported hardware, and they are nifty. Love the teapot! Agreed! I discovered by attempting to follow these links that I had to upgrade my NVIDIA graphic card drivers on my 1-yr. old desktop. I'm not sure why I had never received notification of the important update from somebody (either Dell or NVIDIA). But thanks to this, I did the upgrade and it downloaded and installed easily. And now I can view these WegGL demos with SeaMonkey, no problem. That's just another reason why I read this group regularly. Thanks again. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.3.3
I resisted upgrading from 2.0.14 for all this time because of all the controversy on this group. However today after daily reminders to upgrade stared me in the face for the umpteenth time, I just bit the bullet and clicked on yes. The automated upgrading took all of 3 minutes to download and install, and went flawlessly. I can't find a single problem yet; and even some sites which didn't accept SM before (due to non-supported browser), now do accept it. I suppose that is because Firefox is now ID'ed instead of SeaMonkey? That's certainly OK by me! So, thanks, developers. I can now feel ever so much safer again without guilt. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Upgrade?
Look, I've been a Netscape and SeaMonkey user from the very beginning. I've dutifully upgraded to every version through SM 2.0.14. But given all the problems people have had (for me, crucially with html Composer) that I've read about on this newsgroup, I've decided not to upgrade to SM 2.2 or 2.3. Yes, I know that I'm taking a security risk. But I also feel about SM 2.0.14 it's not broke so why fix it. I know this is totally forlorn; but I do wish that the powers that be would come up with SM 2.0.15 with just the security fixes. Since that isn't ever going to happen (and I'll bet I'm not the only person by a long shot in SM-land who thinks this way), I'm sure I'll eventually have to reconsider my dedication to SeaMonkey itself. Thank you for your time reading this. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 - lost my html editing controls
David Duling wrote: I have been using Seamonkey for several years for editing simple HTML pages with CSS, tables, images, etc... I just installed SM 2.2. I have a couple of problems... I'll be curious about the answer to your problems. I've rejected the move to SM 2.2 solely because of the HTML page composer issues that users have complained about since its release. I guess the bottom line is that I'm waiting for 2.3 to see if people indicate that the problems have been eliminated (but I fear that isn't a priority, so I doubt it is happening.) My fallback is using kompozer instead of SM's Composer; but that sort of eliminates the advantages of a browser *suite*, doesn't it? Why else do we use SeaMonkey if we don't want a suite with all the components working? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: HELP - Composer - not working!
Rob Lindauer wrote: Robert Gault wrote: ADKART wrote: I rarely use the SeaMonkey browser, but I learned how to build web pages with Netscape Composer and when SeaMonkey became the replacement for Netscape, I switched to it. Have used it for quite a while, doing pretty complex things with Composer. But now I cannot edit the pages I previously created. HELP! I can open my files, but I cannot edit them. I manage 5 web sites and I can't do anything with Composer 2.2. Should I go back to an earlier version? I think I know what your problem is but don't have a perfect solution. Seems like a bug in Seamonkey 2.2. When I open web pages saved on my hard drive with Composer and right click on links, Link Properties is grayed out. Composer is in Normal mode. If I then go to HTML Tags mode via the menubar at the bottom of the page, right clicking on links gives an active Link Properties. Going back to Normal mode seems to retain the ability to get to Link Properties with a right click. Clearly there is a problem with Seamonkey. Also switching back and forth between Normal and Tags does not always make Link Properties available in Normal mode. There may be other functions that don't work quite right in Composer. Testing was done on a WinXP SP3 system. I had had the same link properties problem with Composer on Linux (Linux Mint 10 / Ubuntu 11.04) - I wasn't clever / persistent enough to find the workaround as you did, however, and just switched to using BlueGriffon. -RL Sorry, this is such a sticking point for me that I'll stay with 2.0.14 until I read that Composer for web sites is working again. After all that's what a browser suite is supposed to be about! And I've been using the SeaMonkey composer for my web site, well...forever. I suppose I should at least check out Kompozer, however. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: S.M. 2.2 defects (e.g., in Mail)
Ken wrote:
Hi guys, this is Ken, the op (original poster), clarifying.
What I reported in my original post ('another less-than-brilliant thing
with SM 2.2') was IN ADDITION to other SM 2.2 woes that I and others had
already reported in preceding threads.
Anyway, the short of the matter is that I have used System Restore to go
back to my earlier SM version (2.0.11), and all is well again. Sure,
there are security risks. But I had no alternative, given my experience
of the non-user-friendly and even calamitous operations (in its Composer
mode) of SM 2.2
Since I use SM 2.0.14 Composer for writing my web site this cautionary
tale makes me even more certain that SM 2.2 is not for me. How can I
find out whether the bugs (?) in 2.2 Composer are fixed? And other than
discarding SM as my default browser altogether, what can I do about the
security dangers in continuing to use 2.0.14?
By the way, please save the never use SM Composer for web page
authoring responses as I've never had problems with it before and I
wish to continue using what I'm familiar with.
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2.2 upgrade
I've started getting the automatic upgrade to SM 2.2 box; but when I naively started the upgrade I got a notice that there is no version of IE Tab that works with SM 2.2. So I aborted the upgrade since I find that IE Tab is one of the few extensions that I use a lot. So I came here and started reading about all the problems that people are having with SM 2.2 and the scary prospect of going back to 2.0.14 if I wasn't happy. And I've decided to stick with 2.0.14 for the time being. My question: are there ever going to be security updates for the 2.0.x version? Or will I have to go to 2.2 or 2.3 no matter what just to keep a reasonable security level? Or, worse, will I have to discard SM altogether and go to (ugh) Chrome (which I already must use for such demanding sites as HBO To Go since that site doesn't even work with IE Tab)? I've been a loyal Mozilla person since Netscape 1; but is this where I part company? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
