Penalising the blind student by putting restrictions on the scribe is hugely
unfair. If people are abusing the facility, it is up to the system to catch
them and bring them to book. As it is, the blind person is disadvantaged and
if he has to run around toorganise the documentation and meet the dif
Second Yajesh and Gupta.
On 12/14/17, Avee Gupta wrote:
> I agree with the opinion of not imposing any restrictions on scribe
> guidelines but as far as my knowledge the cut of's of various
> examinations like IBPS and SBI officer as well as clerical have multi
> folded in these 4 years .
> Sinc
Dear Kanchan mam, Still you've 11 minutes for the meeting to start.
Please, ask the ministry to dig in the archive of the complaints
received by the CCPD Office over the years regarding bad scribes
provided by SSC/CBSE/UGC/UPSC. The situation at states' level is even
worse. There are a number of n
I support Avinash's and Dinesh's views. Strict supervision and if
necessary, c c t v recording will reduce the malpractice to a great
extense.
Renuka.
On 12/15/17, Srinivasu Chakravarthula wrote:
> Kanchan,
> I think what Dinesh is referring is CCTV recording. Now-a-days use of CCTV
> is quite
Kanchan,
I think what Dinesh is referring is CCTV recording. Now-a-days use of CCTV
is quite common everywhere and even may already exist in exam centres. I
don't think he is talking about video shoot or something like that.
Best,
Vasu
Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.
I agree with the opinion of not imposing any restrictions on scribe
guidelines but as far as my knowledge the cut of's of various
examinations like IBPS and SBI officer as well as clerical have multi
folded in these 4 years .
Since 2014 the cut off has almost doubled instead of the rise in level
o
I believe invigilation should be more strict and strengthened rather
than putting restrictions. an examiner should be seeted in front of
the candidate similar to railway examinations where a separate
examiner was there in frunt of VI candidate and was seeing the
activities. it is more fair and corr
I think keeping one grade lower may work in school and university
examination if taking scribe from the same stream, but this formula
shouldn't be fixed for competetive examination. As most of the
competetive examination have the eligibility being graduate, as
happens in most of the state and all I
OK now I am closing.
If any one wants to get in touch please call on +919022029126.
Don't call between 7 am and 9.30am as I will be on the flight.
Meeting at 11am.
K
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Amit Jain
Sent: 14 Dece
Turab,
These guidelines are supposed to apply all over India and for every exam but
I am told today that I I T has its own rules for scribes for the entrance
exams and they are not relenting. In this matter partially the courts seem
to have gone against us. I don't have the judgement but I wonde
How about this :
3. Scribes chosen by Candidate
a. In case the candidate avails the services of his/her own scribe/writer,
the scribe/writer should be one grade junior in academic qualification
than the candidate if from the same stream. However, this condition shall
not apply if the scribe
I do not take the facility of scribe but people who use the facility have
no chocie but to take scribes provided by the institute which are mostly
teaching associates (who work with faculty members in teaching and
research) and in some cases doctoral students.
Looking at the comments from differen
GoodAbichal. Now we come to the truth.
I will still defend the guidelines however if I have to give in then what
limited restriction should I accept.
I think one year lower is liveable. What do others think.
Kanchan
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessi
I might be castigated for saying this, but still I will say it as it
is the truth.
There needs to be some reasonable restrictions on scribes as I myself
have seen people of my own community blatantly misusing the provisions
put in place for helping them.
Those places where computer operations are a
So Amit who did you use as your scribe for the first yearof the MBA course?
What else can I give to salvage this situation.
See the comments of the authorities including NIVH in my other emails
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
At our institute we were looking at video recording as a method of
vigilance not an alternate to written answers. But then question was raised
about quality of audio which brought to have audio recording also and then
the whole debate came up
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Kanchan Pamnani
wrote
One batch lower would be a harsh condition I would say.
Take IIMs as an example, MBA is for two years, so when I enter in the first
year, I will have no junior to help me out, seniors is out of question, so
there is effectively no pool for me to choose a scrieb and I have to depend
on the institut
Dinesh and Amit
Are we looking at video recording
a. instead of the written answers or
b. video recording of the room in which the exam takes place as a method of
supervision. Please clarify.
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behal
As far as my expeirnce goes, video and audio recording may not be feasable.
When I proposed the same in my institute, my idea was sut doewn based on
the following
1. The cost may be too high as each candidate will require to have a
seperate recording required both for audio and video
2. Person and
Lets get the facts straight.
1. These guidelines are wonderful.
2. There has been a lot of misuse by many candidates.
3. Many of the candidates have complained to the Authorities.
4. We as the sector should have complained about it and disciplined our
juniors I have heard private grumblings fr
Dinesh I am not questioning you for the sake of arguing but for
strengthening my stand tomorrow.Is video recording feasible for exams in
schools colleges and competitive exams in various classrooms.
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On B
Lets get the facts straight.
1. These guidelines are wonderful.
2. There has been a lot of misuse by many candidates.
3. Many of the candidates have complained to the Authorities.
4. We as the sector should have complained about it and disciplined our
juniors I have heard private grumblings fr
I guess we may not have to worry about all these conditions if video
recording of the session could be made mandatory. Video recording should be
submitted so that anytime any authority could verify if any cheating
happened.
for any
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindi
See the opinion of some stake holders. I had started answering these but got
foxed with NIVH -our apex body.
Now what to do friends when we have to face ourselves.
1. SSC
Candidate allowed to bring their own scribe can misuse this facility which
could adversely impact the transparency and
I totally agree with Avinash. In an ideal isituation, strict vigilance is
the solution rather than restrictions and cheating even happens by people
not using scribes. But then we are in asituation where the ideal situation
is in danger.
I think instead of restrictions, disclosure could be an alter
The court doesn't take notice of the incidents those occur because of
bad scribe or completely worthless scribes provided by exam centres,
and also court doesn't deliberate upon outlandish scribe guidelines
set by public authorities like so called public service commissions of
the states! Yes, cour
Dear Kanchan,
I strongly disagree on putting any restrictions on scribes. It would be
like raising the kerbs on the kerb ramps because some biker users misuse
the pedestrian sidewalks. This is an issue of enforcement.
The mechanism of invigilation need to be made foolproof. Also there has to
be g
there should be adequate invigilation along with thorough scrutiny of
the scribe.
On 12/14/17, Kotian, H P wrote:
> Hi
> I too second it fully. Exam malpractises should be dealt in that fashion and
> for it genuine requirements of visually disabled persons should not be
> sacrificed.
>
> Very re
Avinash
Agree with you completely.
However someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked for ban of
private scribes. Luckily court has not agreed but has put the onus on the
Expert Committeee which is meeting tomorrow.
Will try and send you comments of NIVH to understand how we are going t
Avinash
Agree with you completely.
However someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked for ban of
private scribes. Luckily court has not agreed but has put the onus on the
Expert Committeee which is meeting tomorrow.
Will try and send you comments of NIVH to understand how we are going t
Avinash
Agree with you completely.
However someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked for ban of
private scribes. Luckily court has not agreed but has put the onus on the
Expert Committeee which is meeting tomorrow.
Will try and send you comments of NIVH to understand how we are going t
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Hi
I too second it fully. Exam malpractises should be dealt in that fashion and
for it genuine requirements of visually disabled persons should not be
sacrificed.
Very recently I heard of an incident of a very rich fellow's son wrote an exam
using scribe under the garb of some reading disabilit
Dear Kanchan Ma'am,
Apologies for not contributing much to the precise question as I do
not have the OM at hand.
My only request is that whatever the outcome of the meeting, please ensure that
the guidelines formulated are uniform for all exams having overriding
effect over all unique and stupid
No limitations should be imposed on scribes. The only remedy to check
the mal-practices is strict vigilance. Just think how non-scribe user
examinees are not allowed to cheat cause the strict enforcement
mechanisms. the limitation such as Educational qualification is an
absurd and the government ha
Referring to OM of 26th Feb 2013
What limitations can we allow on scribes
This is critical because tomorrow there is a meeting.
Someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked that private scribes be
banned. Luckily the court has not agreed with this decision.
However we will have
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