Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Am Samstag, 8. Juni 2024, 04:05:17 MESZ schrieb Dale: > > DisplayPort supports daisy-chaining. So if you do get another monitor some > > day, look for one that has this feature and you can drive two monitors > > with > > one port on the PC. > > That's something I didn't know. I wondered why

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 05:49:31AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: >>> I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found >>> need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for >>> video.

[gentoo-user] gentoo and gpg

What is correct permissions for /etc/portage/gpg? I've got a warning that directory is unsafe. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

[gentoo-user] Re: Sound missing suddenly?

Nevermind, i had to switch sound servers to pipewire and that fixed it. On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 5:13 PM, Meowie Gamer <[meowiega...@proton.me](mailto:On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 5:13 PM, Meowie Gamer < wrote: > I don't know what to do at this point. After an emerge -avuDN @world, my > sound just

[gentoo-user] Sound missing suddenly?

I don't know what to do at this point. After an emerge -avuDN @world, my sound just completley stopped working. The system pretends like everything is normal, pavucontrol doesn't show any error, but nothing is coming out of my speakers (yes i checked, they are connected to the device). What

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Am Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 05:49:31AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > > > I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found > > need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for > > video. > > The board you linked

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 6 June 2024 04:54:41 BST Dale wrote: > >> I was digging around Ebay. Ran up on a used combo and then had a crazy >> idea. I found a ASUS B550-plus AC-HES mobo that is AM4. I took that >> idea and started building a combo with new parts. CPU, Ryzen 7 5800X >> and

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Thursday, 6 June 2024 04:54:41 BST Dale wrote: > I was digging around Ebay. Ran up on a used combo and then had a crazy > idea. I found a ASUS B550-plus AC-HES mobo that is AM4. I took that > idea and started building a combo with new parts. CPU, Ryzen 7 5800X > and my little 4 port video

Re: [gentoo-user] hplip and python3.12 problem

Le jeu. 6 juin 2024 à 11:31, Stefan Schmiedl a écrit : > -- Original Message -- > From "Jacques Montier" > To "gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org" > Date 06.06.2024 11:08:38 > Subject [gentoo-user] hplip and python3.12 problem > > Hello all, > > I migrated python from 3.11 to 3.12 following

Re: [gentoo-user] hplip and python3.12 problem

-- Original Message -- From "Jacques Montier" To "gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org" Date 06.06.2024 11:08:38 Subject [gentoo-user] hplip and python3.12 problem Hello all, I migrated python from 3.11 to 3.12 following the instructions without any problem and i arrived to */*

Re: [gentoo-user] hplip and python3.12 problem

Am 06.06.24 um 11:08 schrieb Jacques Montier: Hello all, I migrated python from 3.11 to 3.12 following the instructions without any problem and i arrived to */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_12 */* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_12 in package.use. Yesterday, everything was fine and this 

[gentoo-user] hplip and python3.12 problem

Hello all, I migrated python from 3.11 to 3.12 following the instructions without any problem and i arrived to */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_12 */* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_12 in package.use. Yesterday, everything was fine and this morning, problem with hplip package. with emerge -av

[gentoo-user] emerge pattern....

I'm trying to do the steps for the forced profile update even though things had been working perfectly Emerge has been doing really crazy things recently. It will start emerging a thousand packages but not install a single one of them. Then it crashes with a bunch of python

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 10:38 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > Howdy, again, > > > > Hi Dale, >    As part of a little AI project I'm working on I ran across a > relatively  > inexpensive ideo you might want to look into. The basic idea is to  > use a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 3:33 PM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 05/06/2024 20:15, Meowie Gamer wrote: > > I must've taken too long to join the mailing list because I missed the > > first part of whatever's happening here. How did this turn from python 3.12 > > to a conversation about USE? > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 10:38 PM Dale wrote: > > Howdy, again, > Hi Dale, As part of a little AI project I'm working on I ran across a relatively inexpensive ideo you might want to look into. The basic idea is to use a PXIx -> M.2 E Key card and on that card load an M2. E Key to SATA adapter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

--- Original message --- From: Grant Edwards To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 22:07:06 +0200 On 2024-06-05, Wols Lists wrote: On 05/06/2024 13:12, Eli Schwartz

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-05, Wols Lists wrote: > On 05/06/2024 13:12, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> Which I think is fine, if people want that, but not everyone does, so >> delaying the update altogether might be preferable to those people. > > Ie people like me who don't give a monkeys about python, and consider it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

I see, thanks for clearing it up. Meowie

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

Meowie Gamer wrote: > I must've taken too long to join the mailing list because I missed the first > part of whatever's happening here. How did this turn from python 3.12 to a > conversation about USE? > > Because depending on what path you took to deal with this, you could end up with entries

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 05/06/2024 20:15, Meowie Gamer wrote: I must've taken too long to join the mailing list because I missed the first part of whatever's happening here. How did this turn from python 3.12 to a conversation about USE? Because they're using USE or whatever to force packages to stay on 3.11,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

Wols Lists wrote: > On 05/06/2024 13:28, Rich Freeman wrote: >> Implementing dynamic USE management would take somebody a fair bit of >> effort, and for all I know it would make every emerge you run take an >> hour to recompute the dependency tree.  The ability to configure USE >> flags, along

Re: [gentoo-user] MPV not compiling

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 20:30:29 +0200 netfab wrote: > Something must be mis-configured on your system. > > From your build.log, at the beginning of the configure phase we find : > > locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory > > For me, « default locale » is the

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 05/06/2024 13:12, Eli Schwartz wrote: Which I think is fine, if people want that, but not everyone does, so delaying the update altogether might be preferable to those people. Ie people like me who don't give a monkeys about python, and consider it a necessary evil. As far as I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] MPV not compiling

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 20:30:29 +0200 netfab wrote: > Something must be mis-configured on your system. > > From your build.log, at the beginning of the configure phase we find : > > locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory > > For me, « default locale » is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

I must've taken too long to join the mailing list because I missed the first part of whatever's happening here. How did this turn from python 3.12 to a conversation about USE?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 05/06/2024 13:28, Rich Freeman wrote: Implementing dynamic USE management would take somebody a fair bit of effort, and for all I know it would make every emerge you run take an hour to recompute the dependency tree. The ability to configure USE flags, along with the ability to dynamically

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 6/5/24 2:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > What I found misleading (and tripped over) was the implication that > the three step migration process outlined in the news item had a > reasonable likelyhood of working for a large percentage of users. > > If the new items had warned that anybody using

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/5/24 1:12 PM, byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > On 05/06/2024 14:11, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >> Here is the problem. >> Not all "system-critical" packages were stabilised before this change >> was pushed. > > Which packages do you consider to have been 'system critical' in this > instance

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-05, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 20:05, Grant Edwards wrote: >> What I found misleading (and tripped over) was the implication that >> the three step migration process outlined in the news item had a >> reasonable likelyhood of working for a large percentage of users.

Re: [gentoo-user] MPV not compiling

Something must be mis-configured on your system. From your build.log, at the beginning of the configure phase we find : > locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory For me, « default locale » is the locale defined by the LANG environment variable. From your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 20:05, Grant Edwards wrote: > What I found misleading (and tripped over) was the implication that > the three step migration process outlined in the news item had a > reasonable likelyhood of working for a large percentage of users. > > If the new items had warned that

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-05, byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > 2) Was anything really 'broken'? Most certainly no, going by the above > definition and the fact that the news item provided for a very clear > pathway to maintain compatibility that was essentially a two-line solution. I think that build

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

I've been lurking in the background, partly amused and partly frustrated at the arguments being thrown, but with the risk of exacerbating this further I'm going to throw in my two cents (or pence in this corner of the world). I'll start by saying this wasn't the smoothest Python upgrade

Re: [gentoo-user] MPV not compiling

On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 12:03:52 -0400 Jack wrote: > On 6/5/24 11:58 AM, Matthew Brooks wrote: > > Can't work out how to reply to the message from John about this, as I > > wasn't subscribed to the list before, but I'm posting more details on mpv's > > compilation failure. The main error seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] MPV not compiling

On 6/5/24 11:58 AM, Matthew Brooks wrote: Can't work out how to reply to the message from John about this, as I wasn't subscribed to the list before, but I'm posting more details on mpv's compilation failure. The main error seems to be: locale.Error: unsupported locale setting I'm attaching

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-05, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 11:04 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >>> If a package claimed to support python 3.12 and nonetheless failed to >>> build with it, that's a bug in the package -- can you provide more details? >> >> IIRC, the first one

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:41 PM Marco Minutoli wrote: What I believe is in the realm of reasonable is to ask to be notified when important (as in popular) packages that are currently missing support get updated with a stable version supporting python 3.12 so that we can take action on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 6:41 AM Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > And no, I don't buy the point of view that it's the responsibility of > the developers when my personal set of USE flags suddenly causes con- > flicts. > Agree, but keep in mind that having personal sets of USE flags is basically a

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/5/24 4:27 AM, hitachi303 wrote: > Am 04.06.24 um 22:34 schrieb Eli Schwartz: >> - you read the news item, but decided to NOT defer the upgrade, and >>    instead tried to mix both python 3.11 and python 3.12 together on your >>    system > > > I do have one question because I get the vipe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

Grant, On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 17:00:29 - (UTC) you wrote: > ... > I don't see how (even in theory) steps 2 and 3 can work when you have > packages installed that won't build with 3.12. That depends on your definition of "work". It occurs even when doing normal updates that you run into a

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:41 PM Marco Minutoli wrote: > > What I believe is in the realm of reasonable is to ask to be notified when > important (as in popular) packages that are currently missing support get > updated with a stable version supporting python 3.12 so that we can take > action

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 4:27 AM hitachi303 wrote: > > the news item lists in the save upgrade section those lines: > */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_11 python3_12 > */* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 > > This is mixing python 3.11 and 3.12 on the same system. This should be > working

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Am 04.06.24 um 22:34 schrieb Eli Schwartz: - you read the news item, but decided to NOT defer the upgrade, and instead tried to mix both python 3.11 and python 3.12 together on your system I do have one question because I get the vipe from you that mixing python 3.11 and 3.12 would be

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Am 04.06.24 um 22:09 schrieb Eli Schwartz: The purpose of the news item was to warn users that the event would occur. Did it not achieve its purpose? Were you not-warned? Do we at least agree that the news item was truthful? Hi, for me this was exactly what the news item did. It helped me to

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Waldo should learn to actually read and base his comments on facts instead of assumptions --- Original message --- From: Waldo Lemmer To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 05:21:59 +0200

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing - SUCCESS!!!

On 6/4/24 21:02, Grant Taylor wrote: It turns out that I needed to change the initiator configuration on the EMC for the test system to use fail-over mode 4, which I think is also known as ALUA. I was really close, but not quite there. Now I've made it all the way. % multipath -l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 11:04 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> If a package claimed to support python 3.12 and nonetheless failed to >> build with it, that's a bug in the package -- can you provide more details? > > IIRC, the first one was pycxx. The build faild during the

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing - SUCCESS!!!

On 6/4/24 21:02, Grant Taylor wrote: It turns out that I needed to change the initiator configuration on the EMC for the test system to use fail-over mode 4, which I think is also known as ALUA. I was really close, but not quite there. Now I've made it all the way. % multipath -l

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Hello, On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 4:37 PM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > > LAST ATTEMPT AS YOU CLEARLY ARE INCAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING NORMAL > ENGLISH. I WILL USE CAPS FOR YOU. > > WHERE DID I STATE I WANT TO DEFER THE UPDATE? > I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE VERSION! > > THE ISSUE IS CAUSED BY A BROKEN SET

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024, 22:10 Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 3:37 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > > >> On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > >>> Those steps do not just work. > >>> The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > >>> the update" if you have not set any

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 6/4/24 4:58 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> >>> Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation >>> failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't >>> resolve the dependencies.

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing - SUCCESS!!!

Pre-Script: It's working. On 6/4/24 19:48, Grant Taylor wrote: The thing that makes me think that this might be EMC CLARiiON specific is the following output. It turns out that I needed to change the initiator configuration on the EMC for the test system to use fail-over mode 4, which I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

In case anyone is interested, here is my approach. In package.use my starting point is */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_11 python3_12 */* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 #*/* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_12 Then regularly check which packages i'm using that don't have 3.12 single target yet

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

On 6/4/24 11:03, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Yes, I have dev-mapper multipath support in the kernel: # zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i multipath # CONFIG_NVME_MULTIPATH is not set CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH=y CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH_QL=m CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH_ST=m CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH_HST=m #

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Wol wrote: > On 04/06/2024 23:11, Dale wrote: >> I started a thread maybe a decade ago about where computers were >> going next.  Even then, clock frequency was getting close to the >> limit.  At some point, a high frequency just can't go down a >> motherboard and all its traces.  It seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

On 6/4/24 11:03 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: I have 2 HBAs. Each HBA is connected to expander A and expander B (seperate expander chips on the same backplane) Each SAS drive has 2 connections. Connection 1 is connected to expander A. 2 is connected to B. (might be the other way round, but this

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:12 PM Dale > wrote: > > > Holy crap.  That is amazing.  As you say, just one out of all of > them and it is a bad chip, whether it is buggy or just plain dead.  I > was expecting more like close to or into the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On 04/06/2024 23:11, Dale wrote: I started a thread maybe a decade ago about where computers were going next.  Even then, clock frequency was getting close to the limit.  At some point, a high frequency just can't go down a motherboard and all its traces.  It seems to combat that problem, they

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Dale wrote: > Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: >> Dale, >> >> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: >> >>> ... >>> I read the thread linked to by the OP.  I just wonder if waiting a >>> little longer would have helped. >> Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 3:12 PM Dale wrote: > Holy crap. That is amazing. As you say, just one out of all of them and it is a bad chip, whether it is buggy or just plain dead. I was expecting more like close to or into the billions. I was not expecting that. Can you imagine if a chip had to

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 12:13 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > I don't want to be too picky as the core language maintainers have A > LOT of work to do, but part of the challenge is that it isn't very > obvious to a package maintainer (or anybody else) what packages > actually have problems. It is obvious if you

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:24 PM Mark Knecht > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:04 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > > Well, there is a lot to be said about moving what used to be > external to internal.  It

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: Those steps do not just work. The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. There are also still over

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:24 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:04 PM Dale wrote: > > > Well, there is a lot to be said about moving what used to be external to internal. It does result in faster moves for pretty much everything. Moving data from one side of a chip to

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:04 PM Dale wrote: > Well, there is a lot to be said about moving what used to be external to internal. It does result in faster moves for pretty much everything. Moving data from one side of a chip to another is faster than moving data out of a chip and then back in

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

--- Original message --- From: Eli Schwartz To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 22:34:52 +0200 On 6/4/24 4:19 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Gentoo provides you the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 4:58 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > >> Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation >> failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't >> resolve the dependencies. > > I had plenty of both. If a package

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:27 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale > wrote: > > Is the new way taking out what used to be called a northbridge or >

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-04, Eli Schwartz wrote: > Note that it's not a build failure -- it is an upgrade calculation > failure. It fails before upgrading any packages since it knows it can't > resolve the dependencies. I had plenty of both. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:27 PM Dale wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale wrote: Is the new way taking out what used to be called a northbridge or southbridge chip or both chips? Not exactly taking out but rather repartitioning. Much of what used to be in

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 4:19 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >> Gentoo provides you the tools to control your system with this >> specificity. You have the option to avoid this change -- everything will >> continue to work flawlessly with python 3.11. This is the very >> definition of not being forced. > > Having

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > I'm thinking one good HBA will handle the current set of drives and give > > decent speed at that in the Fractal case when the new mobo ends up > > there.  The Fractal can handle 20 that I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 3:37 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Those steps do not just work. The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

--- Original message --- From: Eli Schwartz To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 22:12:41 +0200 On 6/4/24 2:23 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: And before people claim I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 2:23 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > And before people claim I can always help out the devs. I tried this > multiple times in the past, but it's always a massive uphill struggle to > get anywhere. I update ebuilds, ask for review and comments to improve > what I do. Then nothing happens.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dale wrote: >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 >> >> How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is >> 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? > It has two SAS ports, which support 8 SATA drives. Marketing... > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 3:37 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > >> On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >>> Those steps do not just work. >>> The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do >>> the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. >>> I have those not set, but it

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Those steps do not just work. The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. Certainly it did NOT say that. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale wrote: > > I'm thinking one good HBA will handle the current set of drives and give > decent speed at that in the Fractal case when the new mobo ends up > there. The Fractal can handle 20 that I can count easily. There's 4 in > the bottom, 11 in a tall stack

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dale wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 > > How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is > 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? It has two SAS ports, which support 8 SATA drives. Marketing... I can't vouch for

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:56 AM Dale wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: >>> The little SATA controllers I currently use tend to only need PCIe x1. That is slower but at least it works. >>> The LSI cards will work just as

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > Those steps do not just work. > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. Certainly it did NOT say that.

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On 6/4/24 9:17 AM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Dale, in a previous post you shared a rather long list of packages which > you classified not to be Python 3.12 ready. This list contained "sys- > apps/portage"! This just can't be! From my 1060 installed packages ex- > actly ONE package required

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Dale, > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: > >> ... >> I read the thread linked to by the OP.  I just wonder if waiting a >> little longer would have helped. > Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid > out a three-step approach

Re: [gentoo-user] nproc

Hi Jude, I can't answer your question directly because, frankly, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But I'll try my best to clear things up for you. The `nproc` command prints how many processors (CPU cores) are available for applications to use. This is how many emerge or make jobs can run

[gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

On 2024-06-04, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid > out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some packages to > be built twice or even three times, but it JUST WORKED (tm), at least > here. It only required

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 9:14 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > > > Those steps do not just work. > > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > > I have

Re: [gentoo-user] nproc

Found out nproc is a command and my machine returns 16 when that command got run. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, Jude DaShiell wrote: > How is the number of

[gentoo-user] nproc

How is the number of threads nproc can handle printed out to the terminal? On an earlier install try I had J7,l8 put in /etc/portage/make.conf since the computer has 14gb of available memory on it. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > Those steps do not just work. > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. > > There are also

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

Grant, On 6/4/24 12:29 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: I don't use FibreChannel myself (can't justify the cost). I hear that. I manage an old EMC for a friend who's still using it as clustered storage for an old VMware install. It started giving us occasional hiccups (corrected memory errors)

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Rainer, On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: ... I read the thread linked to by the OP. I just wonder if waiting a little longer would have helped. Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

Hi Joost, On 6/4/24 12:29 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: I don't use FibreChannel myself (can't justify the cost). I hear that. I manage an old EMC for a friend who's still using it as clustered storage for an old VMware install. It started giving us occasional hiccups (corrected memory

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:03 AM Dale wrote: > > I wish I could get one that comes with cables > that go from the card to SATA drives as a set. That way I know that > part is right. I'm pretty sure there are only two standards - one for external, and one for internal. Maybe there are different

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

Dale, On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: > ... > I read the thread linked to by the OP.  I just wonder if waiting a > little longer would have helped. Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:56 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > > >> The little SATA controllers I currently use tend to only need PCIe x1. > >> That is slower but at least it works. > > The LSI cards will work just as well in a 1x. That is,

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 07:33:16 -0400, Ionen Wolkens wrote: > > [1 ] > On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 02:06:59AM -0400, John Covici wrote: > > On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 23:19:37 -0400, > > Paul Colquhoun wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:34:20 A.M. AEST John Covici wrote: > > > > The great program

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:19 AM Dale wrote: >> You ever seen one of these? >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 >> >> Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe >> x1 slot? Am I seeing that right? >> > No, it is taking a PCIe 1x slot, using

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: >> I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found >> need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for >> video. > The board you linked has 2 4x slots that are physically 16x, so the > card

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