Re: DicOOo Wizard ?? (+en_GB dictionary) (was Re: [RELEASE]: status update and plan)

2012-04-23 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Stuart; --- Lun 23/4/12, Stuart Swales ha scritto: ... > en_GB dict? it's been in the source > tree for ages!  See > http://svn.services.openoffice.org/opengrok/xref/OOO330_m20/dictionaries/en/ > Hmm.. we removed all the dictionaries from the tree after the Apache move. Can you add the lat

R: BSD (without advertisiong) Category A

2012-03-22 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- Gio 22/3/12, Armin Le Grand ha scritto: >     Hi List, > > in http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html > BSD (without advertising clause) is part of Category A. I > found no information in which category BSD *with advertising > clause* maybe? Does someone know this? > I think it is also

Re: Rat scan vs SGA

2012-03-20 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
hello; --- Mar 20/3/12, Dave Fisher ha scritto: ... > Hi, > > Just investigating and not acting: > > libtextcat/data/new_fingerprints/fpdb.conf > > This is based on this http://odur.let.rug.nl/~vannoord/TextCat/ > which is LGPL, not maintained.  We are in luck since > Apache Spamassassin has a

Re: Heads up: KDE Crystal Icon set going away.

2011-11-17 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/17/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > > IMO the tango icons look uglier than the Galaxy icon set, > but it's just > a question of taste. And the Galaxy is the only one we can > be sure that > has all the required icons. (try the tango icon set and > you'll see that > OOo still

Re: hwpfilter/source/ksc5601.h - header from GNU c library

2011-09-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Oliver; --- On Thu, 9/29/11, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: ... > > Thanks for the input. > > Adding the URL for the origin of the copyright and license > text is a good idea. I will add it and use it also to point > to the origin of ksc5601.h. > As Pedro researched the files are also found a

Re: hwpfilter/source/ksc5601.h - header from GNU c library

2011-09-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Thu, 9/29/11, Rob Weir wrote: ... > > OK.  So [4] is a permissive license for all files in > the directory. > This may seen odd, coming from the FSF, but they encourage > this is some cases, such as when the code is very small, > or where the code promotes the use of an open standard > th

Re: BZ css testing

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Alejandro; --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Is there a way i can test de OOo CSS > skin on the apache implementation? > I had been tweaking to the current theme of the site. Also > would be doing some custom imaging. That's very cool, thanks! Please open a jira issue with infra

Re: A systematic approach to IP review?

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: ... > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:42 PM, > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > It is unlikely that machine-generated files of any > kind are copyrightable subject matter. > > I'd imagine that Pixar, for instance, would have a problem > with that > blanket stat

RE: my next (tiny) steps - clean up regarding stuff which is not conform to the Apache license

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
FWIW; --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... > If you mean ODMA.h, I don't believe > there is any dependency on it and you should just get rid of > it. > > If you need to deal with it as third-party code, I can get > you a version with a BSD-variant license that applies, > although t

RE: my next (tiny) steps - clean up regarding stuff which is not conform to the Apache license

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > Well... now that I think about it > ... > > The linux header (which is actually an GNU iconv header), > can probably be dealt without too. The MIT licensed header > in XFree86 is not on X.Org anymore so they did something > ab

RE: handling of ext_sources - Juergen's suggestion [was: Re: A systematic approach to IP review?]

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
he entire Boost library installed for cherry picking. > > (This will all change at some point, since Boost is being > incorporated into ISO C++.  It is probably best to wait > for that to ripple out into the compiler distributions.) > > - Dennis > > -Original Messag

RE: my next (tiny) steps - clean up regarding stuff which is not conform to the Apache license

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Well... now that I think about it ... The linux header (which is actually an GNU iconv header), can probably be dealt without too. The MIT licensed header in XFree86 is not on X.Org anymore so they did something about it. Is OOo on a opengrok anywhere? It would be good to see where such headers a

Re: EIS replacement needed? WAS Re: why can't I access this address : http://tools.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Bern; From what I read, I don't think we want to get into all that complexity right now. We have enough work already developing OpenOffice to start developing something like EIS from scratch :-(. Perhaps there something opensource already that we can use to some of the EIS functionality? I do

Re: Not new but under a new hat

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; First of all, I am very glad seeing all this OOo developers hired at IBM .. it's great news!! FWIW, I've seen codebases fork under the same license and never reunite (FreeBSD, NetBSD, and more forks coming out of each afterwards) so while I don't say merging back LO into OOo is impossible, it

Re: my next (tiny) steps - clean up regarding stuff which is not conform to the Apache license

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Oliver-Rainer; --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: > Hi, > > I will now join the folks who are working on the clean up > regarding non-Apache license conform stuff. > > Looking at the wiki - http://ooo-wiki.apache.org/wiki/ApacheMigration - > provides some low-hanging fruits f

Re: handling of ext_sources - Juergen's suggestion [was: Re: A systematic approach to IP review?]

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
FWIW; I don't like the patches because I can't really examine well the code, besides this is something the VCS handles acceptably: commit the original sourcecode and then apply the patches in a different commit. If we start with up to date versions there would not be much trouble. just my $0.02,

Re: Iaccessible2 in OOo

2011-09-28 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; There was an interesting cross-posting by Malte Timmermann not long ago: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201109.mbox/ajax/%3c4e6dc5c3.9050...@gmx.com%3E I am not suggesting it should be done now but perhaps committing accfixes2 would help the IBM IA2 integration.

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/27/11, Rob Weir wrote: ... > > Bringing it into SVN is easy.  Making it into a > release is another > question.  To do that requires going through the IP > Clearance process. > Yes, I was obviously referring to the legal requirements. > > I'm willing to debate it for long-establ

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/27/11, Rob Weir wrote: ... > > Another point that Rob brought would be if we need a > SGA > > to add the Groovy (or other) extension. > > > > I would think an SGA is a rather extreme thing to > require > > for extensions: we wouldn't require that if we want > to > > include stuff l

Re: [DISCUSS] Is it worth looking at Confluence Wiki Again?

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/27/11, Kay Schenk wrote: As Rob Weir has put it ... ... > > > > So obviously there is limited volunteer bandwidth to > > migrate the wiki. > > And I've heard from several people, on and off > > the list, that much of what is on the wiki is > > not very useful. > > > > uh, well...

dmake licensing issues again (was Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language)

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/27/11, Rob Weir wrote: > > Hello; > > > > --- On Tue, 9/27/11, Shane Curcuru wrote: > > .. > >> > >> I.e. there are cases where Apache projects may > >> want to include Category-B (EPL, CPL, MPL, etc.) > >> tools within a distribution.  This is permitted > >> in binary form, but n

Re: [code][repo] Integration of CWSs, HOW-TO with hg and git svn and stgit

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; I thought it would be a good time to bring this subject up again. --- On Sat, 9/10/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... > > >> and i completely forgot to mention that i've got a > linear MQ patch > >> series applying against OOO340 that contains the > following: ... > >> > >> ause131 > >> ause130 >

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello; --- On Tue, 9/27/11, Shane Curcuru wrote: .. > > I.e. there are cases where Apache projects may want to > include Category-B (EPL, CPL, MPL, etc.) tools within a > distribution.  This is permitted in binary form, but > not source form. > Someone correct me if I am wrong, but dmake as we h

Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 9/26/11, Rob Weir wrote: > > --- On Sat, 9/24/11, Rob Weir wrote: > > ... > >> If I understand corectly, Apache considers MPL 1.1 > >> to be "weak copyleft" and we have some limited ways > >> (as a binary of using it in our releases. > >> > > > > Yes we can. I am not sure what a comp

Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
FWIW, It may be like fitting a square peg in a round hole but there is something similar coming to Apache: http://incubator.apache.org/opennlp/index.html Pedro

Re: [DISCUSS] Is it worth looking at Confluence Wiki Again?

2011-09-26 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; --- On Mon, 9/26/11, Kay Schenk wrote: > > So, what IS going on? Anybody? > > I think (thought?) Pedro was kind of coordinating the test > of Confluence with the infra folks but ??? > Unfortunately not. I asked infra@ and they didn't answer: I understand they expect us to do it. I have r

Re: ooo-dmake now at Google Code

2011-09-25 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sun, 9/25/11, Rob Weir wrote: ... > > Why exactly do we need to move dmake? > > Having copyleft build tools is not necessarily a problem, > especially if the code is not included in the release. If you don't include it in the release, how are people going to build OpenOffice? > Remembe

ooo-dmake now at Google Code

2011-09-25 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello; As you all might've been thinking, one of the things we really have to move out of the tree is dmake so I just helped dmake step out by moving it to it's own repo at Google Code. http://code.google.com/p/ooo-dmake/ Why Google Code and not apache-extras you might wonder: Dmake is something

Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-24 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sat, 9/24/11, Rob Weir wrote: ... > > HunSpell code is tri-licensed under GPL/LGPL/MPL. > That particular licensing scheme is rather weird: LGPL implies that it can become GPL so you could just say dual licensed LGPL/MPL, and then, once you make something pluggable, the GPL basically bec

Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-24 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
won't have to start from scratch. FWIW, today I made my first and final release :-P. Pedro. --- On Sat, 9/24/11, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ... > On 22/09/2011 Pedro F. Giffuni > wrote: > > Hi Gianluca; > > Is your work related to this version? > > http://members.xoom.it/

Re: [DISCUSSION] start collecting the correct content for a NOTICE.txt file

2011-09-23 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello juergen; I think the file should be named NOTICE (without the .txt extension): https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/ Cheers, Pedro.

Re: Re[2]: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-23 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Yakov; --- On Fri, 9/23/11, Yakov Reztsov wrote: > > 22 сентября 2011, 20:29 от "Pedro F. Giffuni": > > HunSpell is copyleft so we cannot include it.  > > Hi! > Hunspell is  C++ library under GPL/LGPL/MPL > tri-license.  (http://hunspell.sourceforge.n

Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-22 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
, Pedro. --- On Thu, 9/22/11, Gianluca Turconi wrote: From: Gianluca Turconi Subject: Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, giffu...@tutopia.com Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 10:41 AM 2011/9/22 Pedro F. Giffuni The case of the italian support is indeed

Re: AOOo can't save passwort protected file

2011-09-22 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; --- On Thu, 9/22/11, Michael Stahl wrote: ... > > Thanks for this point. NSS is not certified and given > the > > where the heck did you get that idea? > > http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/STM/cmvp/documents/140-1/140val-all.htm#1280 > Ugh.. there's something broken in the iPad safari search opt

Re: ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-22 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
f the original ispell dictionary is more condescending. cheers, Pedro. --- On Thu, 9/22/11, Gianluca Turconi wrote: ... > 2011/9/21 Pedro F. Giffuni > > > > If some of the dictionary files can be relicensed > under > > an Apache License I would consider including them > t

[AOOo 4.0] dev wishlist (Re: Starting a conversation on AOOo 4.0)

2011-09-21 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hmm ...OK. - You've been hearing I'd like to see a more Apache (not necessarily Java) stuff. - OCR capabilities (Google made them free) would also be nice. But here is a really crazy idea: How about using the Math Template Library for calc: http://osl.iu.edu/research/mtl/mtl2.php3 MTL4 ha

ooo-myspell at apache-extras.org

2011-09-21 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello guys; I have created a new project at apache-extras.org to preserve MySpell: http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/ooo-myspell/ There's not much there yet: basically just the original tarball I got from OpenOffice.org, but I felt it was important to preserve this code in some way. I

Re: A systematic approach to IP review?

2011-09-19 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 9/19/11, Rob Weir wrote: ... > 2011/9/19 Jürgen Schmidt : ... > > > > do you mean to check in the files under ext_source > into svn and remove it > > later on when we have cleaned up the code. Or do you > mean to put it > > somehwere on apache extras? > > I would prefer to save these

Re: AOOo can't save passwort protected file

2011-09-17 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Ugh ... nevermind, we already carry xmlsec ! I guess we have everything to get rid of nss but we are not using it right? Apache Santuario is interesting though. Cheers, Pedro.

Re: AOOo can't save passwort protected file

2011-09-17 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi again; I think I found the missing piece in the puzzle ... OOo already uses OpenSSL, but in order to replace nss we need support for xmlsecurity. This library provides just that under an MIT license: http://www.aleksey.com/xmlsec/ Alternatively Apache has it's own stuff: http://s

Beanshell to be relicensed under Apache License 2 !!

2011-09-17 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Dear Apache OpenOffice.org community; I have been authorized, and it is my pleasure, to share with you the good news ... The Beanshell scripting language will be made available soon under the Apache License version 2. Later on, this month, the website will be updated to reflect that: http:/

Re: AOOo can't save passwort protected file

2011-09-17 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sat, 9/17/11, Rob Weir wrote: ... > > OpenSSL is a a validated module when run in "FIPS mode": > > http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/STM/cmvp/documents/140-1/1401val2009.htm# > > But that would still apply to AES, not Blowfish. > > Think of it this way:  FIPS 140 defines what the > acce

Re: saxon

2011-09-16 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Pedro. --- On Mon, 8/29/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: > Am 29.08.2011 17:41, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni: > > > Looking a bit into Matthias' list, there's the saxon > issue. > > > > I looked for a replacement and it would look like the > > Apache Xalan p

Re: Hi everybody

2011-09-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Welcome zhong zhao! It's nice to see people from China joining.. I guess this project will be really alive in all timezones! :). Pedro. --- On Wed, 9/14/11, 赵忠 wrote: ... > Hi all: > I am working for the company, RedFlag 2000(China),and start > to develope office suit two months ago. Till now,

RE: How to do with glibc-2.1.3 in AOOo?

2011-09-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/14/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: .. > Backing up a little.  I don't > know if the original BSD license is a problem for Apache, > but it becomes a problem downstream, so it is good to avoid > having to carry that license and a NOTICE file about it > around in Apache OOo. > Well, h

RE: How to do with glibc-2.1.3 in AOOo?

2011-09-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Ahem ... Guys; --- On Wed, 9/14/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... > If you list the functions you have in > mind, and the names of the headers normally used to > introduce their signatures, I will double-check the VC++ > 2008 and VC++ 2010 libraries to see what the status > is.  > We are far f

Re: How to do with glibc-2.1.3 in AOOo?

2011-09-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/14/11, Michael Stahl wrote: ... > > > > In FreeBSD we were using an independent library in > some ports to > > support getopt_long but the regular library now > supports the GNU > > extensions. If it's needed it can be taken from > there. > > if it's not in a C standard at least 20

Re: The OOo Community Wiki handover of activities

2011-09-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello Terry; Thanks for doing this last stuff for us! --- On Wed, 9/14/11, Terry Ellison wrote: ... > > 3. I am still concerned about this whole issue of content > attribution.  IIRC, under the old OCA contributors only > vested joint rights to Sun/Oracle and free licence on any > patents.  The

Re: How to do with glibc-2.1.3 in AOOo?

2011-09-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Thanks Tor, this is all good to know! --- On Wed, 9/14/11, Tor Lillqvist wrote: ... > > The question is why do we need > this? I would think > > all supported platforms have standard conformant > > C/C++ libs. > > Yeah, but the code uses non-standard library functions, > apparently. Both of the

RE: Problem using Java for integration from JBoss 5.1

2011-09-13 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
I looked around, there isn't much here yet > so this seemed the best fit. > > Are there other lists that would be better or is the > project not quite that far along yet? > > Thanks. > > -----Original Message- > From: Pedro F. Giffuni [mailto:giffu...@tutopia.com]

RE: Problem using Java for integration from JBoss 5.1

2011-09-13 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
what Jars we don't really need or we wait for > the next version and hope the problem goes away. > > Thanks for the help. > > -Original Message- > From: Pedro F. Giffuni [mailto:giffu...@tutopia.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:57 PM > To: ooo

Re: Problem using Java for integration from JBoss 5.1

2011-09-13 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Interesting ... We carry an older version of saxon but we don't carry saxon9-dom.jar Newer versions of saxon don't carry saxon9-dom either. Try getting Saxon-B from http://saxon.sourceforge.net/ cheers, Pedro. --- On Tue, 9/13/11, Herter, Scott wrote: ... > We have been using OpenOffice in t

Re: Is there anything we can do to make AOOo code more usable by LibreOffice?

2011-09-12 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Rob; --- On Mon, 9/12/11, Rob Weir wrote: .. > > I'd summarize it as saying that merging code Apache code > into LibreOffice will be really difficult, especially > since LibreOffice has made widespread source changes. > > Is there anything we can do to help LibreOffice out here? > Develop fa

Re: Automated Builds and Releases

2011-09-12 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 9/12/11, Matt Richards wrote: ... > Quick question (or perhaps a discussion point). With > all this talk about how things used to be built in a > data center in Hamburg. I am wondering how the > release/build process works with Apache projects. Does the > ASF provide facilities for a

Re: [repo] EIS is down

2011-09-11 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sun, 9/11/11, Eike Rathke wrote: > ... But the "ready for QA" and > "approved by QA" > states are lost. Or did someone take notes on those? > FWIW, Michael Stahl mentioned these on 21.08.2011 __ readyforQA 3.4: mh8tz sw34bf06 mingwport35 tkr41 __ and i

Re: [code][repo] Integration of CWSs, HOW-TO with hg and git svn and stgit

2011-09-10 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi, Excuse the newcomer ignorance ... --- On Sat, 9/10/11, Michael Stahl wrote: ... > > and i completely forgot to mention that i've got a linear > MQ patch series applying against OOO340 that contains the > following: > > ooo340fixes > mingwport35 > > ause131 > ause130 > writerfilter10 > gnum

Re: [repo] External sources, ICU (was: Who wants to build OpenOffice?)

2011-09-09 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Mathias; --- On Fri, 9/9/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... > > If we can be sure about the IP situation, we should at > least add copyright headers to the files, shouldn't we? > Or put a license file into the repository. > The standard Apache policy seems to be to add them to the NOTICE file: htt

Re: [repo] External sources, ICU (was: Who wants to build OpenOffice?)

2011-09-09 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Eike; --- On Fri, 9/9/11, Eike Rathke wrote: > > > > There was also a bug with Arab glyphs but it was not > specific > > to the icu version. > > Well, yes, for those exist patches in the icu module's > directory, that's the easy case. What I was referring > are changes in other modules becau

RE: [wiki] Migration - A TerryE Clipping Collection [LONG]

2011-09-08 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Thu, 9/8/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... > I see you closed INFRA-3917. > I like to clean my own mess, yes. > Keep in mind that there appear to be others willing to > struggle with Confluence migration (CWiki?). > That makes me very happy! Anyone can reopen the issue: the problem I se

Re: [repo] External sources, ICU (was: Who wants to build OpenOffice?)

2011-09-08 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; --- On Thu, 9/8/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: > > Which version of ICU is used in LibreOffice? If they use a > newer one, > this probably can tell us about possible "surprises". > The FreeBSD port uses 4.8.1 (with local patches). so it looks like they use "system icu" already. I have also se

RE: [wiki] Migration - A TerryE Clipping Collection [LONG]

2011-09-08 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Thu, 9/8/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... > Pedro, just a quick clarification, > > My understanding is that Infra doesn't do content > conversions of the kind we are talking about. > > It is all volunteer work and it is up to the PPMC to > resource such things. Infrastructure provided t

Re: [wiki] Migration - A TerryE Clipping Collection [LONG]

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/7/11, Dave Fisher wrote: ... > > > > Please hold your horses. Terry is not here, he is in > > his way to Greece, and we are just exploring the few > > options that are left. > > > > Conversion from MW to confluence may be painful for > > us but hopefully would be much easier for in

Re: [wiki] Migration - A TerryE Clipping Collection [LONG]

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/7/11, Alexandro Colorado wrote: .. > > I also have not kept up with the discussion but reading > Terry's comments there seem to be a very huge task to > migrate out of Mediawiki. However then I see that "due > to lack of Mediawiki support - we are moving to > Confluence". > Isnt thi

Re: [repo] External sources, ICU (was: Who wants to build OpenOffice?)

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/7/11, Eike Rathke wrote: OK, I accept your reasoning. ... > > > There is also interest in using icu-regex for > > replacing the copyleft regex and the latest > > versions seem to have improved a lot. > > Of course, but upgrading ICU at this stage for a 3.4 > release IMHO is not an

Re: [repo] External sources, ICU

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/7/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... > > The IP of some of our i18n files is unclear and someone > (you?) pointed out that they have been copied from ICU. > We should clean that up. But that is not related to the > ICU external tarball. > Hmm.. I thought we could use the same headers int

Re: Who wants to build OpenOffice?

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; --- On Wed, 9/7/11, James Steinbraker wrote: > I am a OOo user and have been wanting > to ask but have not had the time. Does anyone know when > version 3.4 may be released for broad user consumption? That > is my only question. But I do understand that the code needs > to be correct before r

Re: [repo] External sources, ICU (was: Who wants to build OpenOffice?)

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/7/11, Eike Rathke wrote: > > I don't see why the current ICU 4.0.1 needed to be updated, > what "issues with headers" are you referring? > >   Eike > I am not sure exactly when the ICU license changed but the first ICU versions had a restrictive license. We have some code from IC

Re: Need a volunteer for the Bugzilla templates

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
yways. Pedro. --- On Wed, 9/7/11, Reizinger Zoltán wrote: > 2011.09.07. 18:10 keltezéssel, Pedro F. Giffuni írta: > > Great! Thanks to Matt!! > > > > One thing I didn't mention and that may be > > interesting for international users is that > > the new bugzill

Re: Who wants to build OpenOffice?

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
FWIW, The external sources include a lot of stuff that is outdated and there may even be security risks involved. I think I posted a list of outdated stuff before and on FreeBSD I made sure we carry natively the latest versions (with some care for compatibility). Also there's the issue that was

Re: Need a volunteer for the Bugzilla templates

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
dy else beats me to it. > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > > (This just required a new subject header) > > > > Hi; > > > > As you know the bugzilla database is working already > (very > > well to be honest) but the UI

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-07 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Wed, 9/7/11, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 06/09/11 05:34, Jean Weber a écrit : > > Hi Jean, all, > > > >> I am afraid we must still do this. Perhaps it's > >> easier to find the people that oppose .. > >> Can we legally make a call to everyone that > >> opposes the change to speak up b

Fwd: Need a volunteer for the Bugzilla templates

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
(This just required a new subject header) Hi; As you know the bugzilla database is working already (very well to be honest) but the UI interface changes were not brought in due to the extremely outdated version (3.2.10) the old site was running. Apparently it is not a difficult task and it would

Re: [DISCUSS] Is it worth looking at Confluence Wiki Again?

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello; --- On Tue, 9/6/11, Dave Fisher wrote: > Pedro has already gone over to check > with Infrastructure about doing a test. > ... > > Regards, > Dave > Yes, here is the post I sent to the infrastructure guys. I guess they have the MW data and the confluence know-how but it will probably ta

Re: [DISCUSS] Announcing Apache ooo Bugzilla on OpenOffice.org Lists

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
I made a call for this before but maybe it was lost: Do we have a bugzilla UI expert here? I have just learned that indeed the templates for the older bugzilla are available. cheers, Pedro.

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/6/11, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/6/11, Rob Weir > wrote: > > > >> > >> So I don't think we can give an answer set in > stone. > > > > Aga

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/6/11, Rob Weir wrote: > > So I don't think we can give an answer set in stone.  Again, section 5 of the Apache License is clear enough. Pedro.

Re: [DISCUSS][wiki] Migration (was Re: Who Wants to build OpenOffice?)

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
(was Re: > Who Wants to build > > OpenOffice?) > > > > > > As far as point 2, I thought Terry had completed > the all of the migration > > > work and all that was left was to create a final > export and cut over the > > DNS > > > entries? In

Re: [code][repo] Integration of CWSs

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello Eike; From what I discussed with Rob there is no objection on his side wrt to integrating the CWS'. I was waiting for the FreeBSD port to go through before pushing this further, but in general the idea here is that lazy consensus applies: no one objected so the issue is left for those that

Re: [DISCUSS][wiki] Migration (was Re: Who Wants to build OpenOffice?)

2011-09-05 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hmm ... It looks like I missed where the decision to use MediaWiki and deprecate confluence was taken. I guess it was arranged with infra as long as MW is up to date and the extensions are documented. I am not complaining though: it sounds like lazy consensus in action plus we can always change

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-05 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Jean; Continuing on the topic of my general ignorance ... --- On Mon, 9/5/11, Jean Weber wrote: ... > > It's not clear to me that the user guides produced by > ODFAuthors are in fact "official documentation" even > though they are made available as ODT and PDF through > the OOo wiki. > We a

Re: Status of existing OOo user guides

2011-09-05 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Mon, 9/5/11, Jean Weber wrote: ... > > We have established that relicensing the existing OOo user > guides (which are licensed CC-BY) to the Apache license > is not practical. > Does this mean, as Rob has suggested, that these guides > *cannot* be part of the "official" documentation fo

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-04 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Ahh.. found it! The problem is solved in section 5 of the Apache License: ___ 5. Submission of Contributions. Unless You explicitly state otherwise, any Contribution intentionally submitted for inclusion in the Work by You to the Licensor shall be under the terms and conditions of this L

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-04 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sun, 9/4/11, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Eike Rathke wrote: .. > > > > There are people who won't sign whatever CA, call it > > philosophical conception, due to history especially > > not if it's for OOo. If contributions are welcome > > only under iCLA you probably

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-04 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sun, 9/4/11, Marcus (OOo) wrote: ... > > As addition: > > It's also about code quality and stability. > I have never said the contrary. > Currently we have already a (relative) stable code with the > released OOo 3.4 Beta. So, it would be IMHO not clever to > through in all the new co

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-04 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sun, 9/4/11, Marcus (OOo) wrote: ... > > Example 1: > > - A posting in LO mailinglist from Sept 2010 says: > > "Creating a 'bug' saw no action in 3 years > > Here is hoping that posting the patch to this > > new project will :-)" > > (There goes one developer that will probably > > th

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-03 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Raphael Bircher wrote: ... > Only because a patch it's included in LibO we should not > include it automaticly here. There are many reasons to not > include a pach. > > - Lisence Problems > - The Patch is not compatible with other Operating system. > - The patch is bad program

Re: Fwd: [users] Re: Languages

2011-09-03 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; --- On Sat, 9/3/11, Dale Erwin wrote: ... > > Spoken like a true northern Italian bigot... with all due > respect. > > Please note I did not call you a northern Italian bigot... > I said you speak like one.  Maybe you are just > misinformed. > I should've thought better before my original

Re: Fwd: [users] Re: Languages

2011-09-03 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
11, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > Neapolitan is classified as a dialect, not a language, > for > > good reasons. > > It's in ISO 639-2 so it's a language, and it's distinct > from Italian. Among the local languages spoken in It

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-03 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Rob Weir wrote: ... > On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > Hi Marcus; > > > > The exact flag in bugzilla is 3.4_release_blocker. > > > > Not including *ALL* these 24 bugs for the next > release > > would

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-03 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
te to OpenOffice that would now see that their are efforts better appreciated elsewhere. It's just 24 bugs with patches: we can do them all before the next release (likely to happen next year). cheers, Pedro. --- On Sat, 9/3/11, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 09/03/2011 04:39 AM, schrieb Pedro F. Gi

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-03 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > > --- On Fri, 9/2/11, Rob Weir  > wrote: > > > >> >> Is it worth contacting the authors of these dictionaries to >> see if they would consider giving it a license we can use? > > Simply +1. > No need to vote.. just do it (TM). I suggest you also start

Re: Fwd: [users] Re: Languages

2011-09-02 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi Dale; With due respect to Italy's cultural richness (which I so much admire being italian myself but not only because of that), Neapolitan is classified as a dialect, not a language, for good reasons. Compared to standard italian you use the same character set and gramatical rules. Furthermore

Re: OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-02 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Fri, 9/2/11, Rob Weir wrote: > > Is it worth contacting the authors of these dictionaries to > see if they would consider giving it a license we can use?  My standard boilerplate reply was: "Please note that we will not receive contributions under copyleft licenses anymore. We recommen

OpenOffice most annoying bugs

2011-09-02 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hi; I went through the early LibreOffice archives checking which issues from our database they considered for inclusion. I have to say it was a GREAT idea to start from the tip of the Hg development tree as most fixes already appear closed (applied or integrated to a CWS). The following 24 open

RE: Request dev help: Info for required crypto export declaration

2011-09-01 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
While here, Can Apache projects rely on Mozilla's nss (MPL)? I looked for alternatives but I only found the java based Bouncy Castle: http://www.bouncycastle.org/ cheers, Pedro. --- On Thu, 9/1/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > From: Dennis E. Hamilton > Subject: RE: Request dev help: Info f

Re: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ is now live

2011-08-31 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
I think it works fine, perhaps Ray got confused with the infra JIRA, which, of course, manages the infrastructure for all projects. Not that it matters too much, but ... Do we have a bugzilla template expert? It would be good if we could make it look like the previous one. Perhaps we can even get

Re: [Repo][Proposal]After the code is checked in to SVN

2011-08-31 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
+1 to (y). It is good to take advantage that some people here know well the branches that have to be merged. It is faster and more practical to clean IP to the merged codebase than to do several audits. Also it would be really nice to just finish migrating the Oracle code that has to be migrated

Re: Commit messages

2011-08-30 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 8/30/11, Tor Lillqvist wrote: ... >> (I don't know who wrote this ... ) >> I'd like to see commit log/messages containing the >> number of fixed issue referenced and no commit >> messages without that number. > > So people would not be allowed to improve things without > first filin

Re: [code] stuck at offapi on unxlngx6.pro

2011-08-30 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 8/30/11, Stephan Bergmann wrote: ... > > > > This is an important question. If we need another > > preprocessor there are options(1), but we need to now > > why. > > At least for idlc, I think the best solution would be to > get rid of a C preprocessor completely.  Even if > de-fa

soltools/cpp replacement options (was Re: [code] stuck at offapi on unxlngx6.pro)

2011-08-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
rated lexer." cheers, Pedro. --- On Mon, 8/29/11, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: ... > > This is an important question. If we need another > preprocessor there are options(1), but we need to now > why. > > cheers, > > Pedro. > > (1) http://mcpp.sourceforge.net/ >

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