Cotty wrote:
On 22/3/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
Absolutely. I just wonder how one arrives at an answer. I've never,
for example, taken photographs at an "active" car wreck as my first
instinct is to help the people involved. But I know a person who has
and who has been assa
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:59:59 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Markus Maurer"
> Subject: RE: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin
>
> > Hi Frank
> > and still no answer from your side whethe
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 10:36:45PM +, Cotty wrote:
>
> I'd make a crap war photog.
I could believe that ...
On 22/3/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Absolutely. I just wonder how one arrives at an answer. I've never,
>for example, taken photographs at an "active" car wreck as my first
>instinct is to help the people involved. But I know a person who has
>and who has been assaulted bec
and still no answer from your side whether people **know that you are
publishing them later** and if they still **feel okay**?
greetings ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> The point is, it doesn't matter how they feel about it.
>>> It becomes an issue of the ethics of the photographer, and how he or
- Original Message -
From: "mike wilson"
Subject: Re: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin
Absolutely. I just wonder how one arrives at an answer. I've never, for
example, taken photographs at an "active" car wreck as my first instinct
is to help th
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson"
Subject: Re: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Markus Maurer"
Subject: RE: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin
Hi Frank
and still
- Original Message -
From: "mike wilson"
Subject: Re: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Markus Maurer"
Subject: RE: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin
Hi Frank
and still no answer from your
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Markus Maurer"
Subject: RE: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin
Hi Frank
and still no answer from your side whether people **know that you are
publishing them later** and if they still **feel okay**?
greetings ;-)
The po
- Original Message -
From: "Markus Maurer"
Subject: RE: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin
Hi Frank
and still no answer from your side whether people **know that you are
publishing them later** and if they still **feel okay**?
greetings ;-)
The point is, it doesn&#x
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:33:46 -0500, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
is my buddy Ricky the Soap Angel Carver (who I haven't seen around
> before).
I just re-read this post from last night (as I received an off-list
comment WRT it), and I noticed that I mis-spoke (or rather mis-typed).
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:05:37 +0100, Peter Lacus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to thank to all who commented on my photo. I found it
> fascinating to see different opinions for different reasons, but that's
> the way it should be, IMO. So once again thanks, folks.
>
> Bedo.
>
That's w
I would like to thank to all who commented on my photo. I found it
fascinating to see different opinions for different reasons, but that's
the way it should be, IMO. So once again thanks, folks.
Bedo.
Hi Frank
and still no answer from your side whether people **know that you are
publishing them later** and if they still **feel okay**?
greetings ;-)
Markus
>>I know with the "anti-paparazzi" laws that are being proposed in some
>>places, that may change, but we have no such laws here, so I can ta
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:17:58 +0100, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Frank
> I understand your rules well but for me, one important thing is missing:
>
> ---> You not only take a photograph, you publish it later by showing it at
> least here. <--
>
> That is, of course not a prob
On 21 Mar 2005 at 0:17, Markus Maurer wrote:
> ---> You not only take a photograph, you publish it later by showing it at
> least here. <--
The concept of publishing via web display seems to be a legally gray area at
the moment especially given that it's a medium without boarders so disputan
Hi Frank
I understand your rules well but for me, one important thing is missing:
---> You not only take a photograph, you publish it later by showing it at
least here. <--
That is, of course not a problem for me, because otherwise I would not see
all the nice people PESO's here,
but it is a
On 20/3/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Given what you said here, we are in fact ~ad idem~.
touche ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:13:04 -0800, Shel Belinkoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, not showing someone's face = non exploitive photo. Are you saying that
> when you show someone's face you're exploiting them?
>
Well, even though you responded to Ann's comment, since she referred
to mine, I shou
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:34:24 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I didn't make myself clear enough. My intention was that the passers by
> should have been more prominent, more into the frame. Where they are is
> neither here nor there. Waiting a few more seconds would have placed the
> whee
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:38:59 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No you weren't Frank. I was not clear in my post. You are hereby fully
> exonerated!
Cotty,
Why are you being so nice to me all of a sudden?
I'm suspicious...
-frank (not paranoid at all!)
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeoi
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 02:42:04PM +0100, Jostein wrote:
> Frank,
> It may not be a good idea to critique a critique of a critique :-)
> But then again I do think both yours and Cotty's comments are very
> interesting.
>
> I too have a problem with the passersby. I think the wheelchair adds
On 20/3/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Well, I think that maybe I was being unfair to Cotty with my comment
No you weren't Frank. I was not clear in my post. You are hereby fully
exonerated!
Cheers,
Cotty
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On 20/3/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I too have a problem with the passersby. I think the wheelchair adds
>another dimension to the two foremost persons' gaze at the beggar.
>Therefore, I think the shot would have been a lot better if they were
>not on the edge of the frame.
and
On 19/3/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> >http://www.misenet.sk/Berlin/
>> >
>> >Bedo.
>>
>> Bedo, half of all photography is not photographing at all.
>>
>> a...n...t..i..c..i...p...a...t..i..o..n
>>
>> Let the passers by do some passing by ;-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Cotty
>
>I
For me, the placement of the people at the right part of the frame is
correct; they appear to feel pity and revulsion for the old woman and are
trying to pass as far away as possible, almost moving out of the picture,
although their shadows will pass over her, which is all the interaction
they
I have to disagree with Cotty (a few posts back) too. I think the contrast between the person in the forground, and the person in the the wheelchair is profound. It shows the difference is really between having family and friends, and not, rather than the physical disability. The grand monuments in
I don't buy that. I tend to feel that showing their face is more honest
in some ways. At least you're not trying to catch them when they're not
looking. I've found that very few homeless people object to having
their picture taken, although I would never shoot someone just because
they're homel
So, not showing someone's face = non exploitive photo. Are you saying that
when you show someone's face you're exploiting them?
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: Ann Sanfedele
> Bedo, I agree with Frank about the placement of
> the woman and your not
> disrespecting her because we can't see
frank theriault wrote:
> snip snip ...
> BTW, the comment Bill made about Caveman, refers to a former lister
> (he'll be back, we all know it ) who really didn't like photos of
> so called "street people" at all. He railed against them every time
> one was posted, and IIRC, the last time he took
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:05:05 +0100, Peter Lacus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank,
>
> you are hereby allowed to modify this picture in any way you like. :-)
I really am not very good at editing the work of others. Some here on
this list are good at cropping or otherwise re-working any photogr
Markus,
this picture does not really match my taste but I like the details on the
sculptures and the shadows of the group.
Is there a chance of having the man on the right and the stick of the woman
uncutted on the negative?
I just checked the original slide and no, unfortunately it's already cut
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Peter Lacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 12:18 AM
>>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
>>Subject: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin
>>
>>
>>http://www.misenet.sk/Berlin/
>>
>>Bedo.
>>
>>
the beggar.
Therefore, I think the shot would have been a lot better if they were
not on the edge of the frame.
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 2:00 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: The splendour and the misery
Jens,
What is the misery? Die Rundfunk Turm? I've been there many years ago :-)
All my photographs came out green, because of the coloured glass in the
dome!
although it wasn't intended this way your interpretation is quite cool
:-)
Bedo.
Frank,
http://www.misenet.sk/Berlin/
Commenting on the photo in and of itself, my problem with it is that
the woman sort of gets lost down there in the corner. I know you
wanted to get the majestic statues in there to contrast the old lady,
but I think in doing that she sort of gets lost.
I was g
. marts 2005 11:18
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin
Jens Bladt wrote:
> What is the misery? Die Rundfunk Turm? I've been there many years ago :-)
That was my first thought, too. Then I scrolled down - all the way down
- and found
Jens Bladt wrote:
What is the misery? Die Rundfunk Turm? I've been there many years ago :-)
That was my first thought, too. Then I scrolled down - all the way down
- and found the lady begging. For the presentation medium, the picture
is too big.
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Sendt: 20. marts 2005 00:18
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: PESO: The splendour and the misery of Berlin
http://www.misenet.sk/Berlin/
Bedo.
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:12:38 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 20/3/05, Peter Lacus, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >http://www.misenet.sk/Berlin/
> >
> >Bedo.
>
> Bedo, half of all photography is not photographing at all.
>
> a...n...t..i..c..i...p...a...t..i..o..n
>
> Let the pass
On 20/3/05, Peter Lacus, discombobulated, unleashed:
>http://www.misenet.sk/Berlin/
>
>Bedo.
Bedo, half of all photography is not photographing at all.
a...n...t..i..c..i...p...a...t..i..o..n
Let the passers by do some passing by ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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You had to be there...
Peter Lacus wrote:
William Robb wrote:
Good thing Caveboy seems to have left the list
May I ask you why, William? Seems I don't getting the picture once
again. :-(
Bedo.
--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks thr
Nice shot, well composed. It presents an interesting juxtaposition.
Placing the figure in the lower left underscores the concept. Good
work.
Paul
On Mar 19, 2005, at 6:17 PM, Peter Lacus wrote:
http://www.misenet.sk/Berlin/
Bedo.
William Robb wrote:
Good thing Caveboy seems to have left the list
May I ask you why, William? Seems I don't getting the picture once
again. :-(
Bedo.
- Original Message -
From: "Peter Lacus"
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] PESO: The splendour and the misery of
Berlin
http://www.misenet.sk/Berlin/
Good thing Caveboy seems to have left the list
William Robb
http://www.misenet.sk/Berlin/
Bedo.
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