Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Alan Fletcher
> From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 11:25:34 AM > But the title of this thread is Zawodny's video. It was my fault bringing up Le Clair .. but I was following up on Bushnell's quote (linked in the original post) about "Labs blown up" and "windows melted".

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Axil Axil
of extreme charges on nanotubules or Rydberg Matter? > > > > > > Jojo > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Axil Axil > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Monday, May 28, 2012 1:41 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently upload

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Jojo Jaro
culumation of extreme charges on nanotubules or Rydberg Matter? Jojo - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 1:41 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video http://www.journal-

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:43 PM 5/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: http://pesn.com/2012/04/28/9602083_NanoSpire_Inc

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Axil Axil
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0911/0911.5495.pdf Sorry. try this link. On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Initiation%20of%20nuclear%20reactions.pdf > > > > A number of experiments that feature violent activity in water sh

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Initiation%20of%20nuclear%20reactions.pdf A number of experiments that feature violent activity in water share the same characteristics that LeClair observed in his LENR experiments. I see the referenced experiment listed above demonstrating the pr

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:42 PM 5/25/2012, Chemical Engineer wrote: Reads like the catalyst may have been Lysergic acid diethylamide It does read that way. LeClair does not report the primary observational data, but, rather, his high-level abstract impressions, his *interpretations* of the data, and that is prec

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:28 PM 5/25/2012, David Roberson wrote: The scenario that they mention is beyond frightening and anyone who remained in the vicinity of that experiment should be given a metal for bravery. I can imagine the description of damage being used as part of the plot to a wild science fiction mo

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:17 PM 5/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Le Clair is quoted: The experiment gave off powerful crested cnoid de Broglie Matter wave soliton wave packages that were doubly periodic and followed the Jacobi Elliptic functions exactly, mostly in the form of large doubly-periodic vortices. Hundre

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:04 PM 5/25/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 01:49 PM 5/25/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: "Hundreds of wave trains and vortices appeared everywhere and are permanently burned into walls, objects and trees surrounding the lab." Came from Le Clair himself, in response to Krivit

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Not LENR. If what was reported by LeClair actually happened, which is substantially in doubt, no independent account has come to light, and LeClair's reports are full of unsupported and wild theoretical interpretations shallow on actual experimental evidence, this would not be LENR at all, bu

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > the pictures from LeClair are in the comments section of this blog. > I know very little about Mark LeClair or NanoSpire. The main thing I conclude from the photographs in the comments is that the lab is not clean and that contamination of

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
LeClair has observed the generation of *Protonated Water Clusters* in the plasma of the collapsing cavitation bubble. This nanomaterial is a topologic material that concentrates positive charges; most probably superconductive and quantum mechanically coherent at the tip of the cluster. It is thi

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > > http://pesn.com/2012/04/28/9602083_NanoSpire_Inc_on_Harnessing_Cavitation_Zero_Point_Energy_to_Produce_Fusion_and_Transmutation_in_Water/ > > > > the pictures from LeClair are in the comments section of this blog. > Thanks. Not many photos there. Only one, it seems. I do no

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Chemical Engineer
t; From: Jed Rothwell 'jedrothw...@gmail.com');>> > To: vortex-l 'vortex-l@eskimo.com');>> > Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 5:17 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube > video > > Le Clair is quoted: > > >&g

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
http://pesn.com/2012/04/28/9602083_NanoSpire_Inc_on_Harnessing_Cavitation_Zero_Point_Energy_to_Produce_Fusion_and_Transmutation_in_Water/ the pictures from LeClair are in the comments section of this blog. Cheers: Axil On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Le Clair is quot

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Krivit elaborates on NASA and Larsen  : NASA and Widom-Larsen Theory: Inside Story http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2012/05/24/nasa-and-widom-larsen-theory-inside-story/#more-2474

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread David Roberson
better documented! Are you sure this was not part of an April fools joke? Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 5:17 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video Le Clair is quoted: The

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Le Clair is quoted: > The experiment gave off powerful crested cnoid de Broglie Matter wave > soliton wave packages that were doubly periodic and followed the Jacobi > Elliptic functions exactly, mostly in the form of large doubly-periodic > vortices. Hundreds of wave trains and vortices appeared

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:49 PM 5/25/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote:  "Hundreds of wave trains and vortices appeared everywhere and are permanently burned into walls, objects and trees surrounding the lab." Came from Le Clair himself,  in response to Krivit http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/31/new-energy-times-i

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:41 PM 5/25/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher wrote: Any other links to "labs blowing up" and "window melting" ? I don't know about windows melting. There's also : Re: [Vo]:the desktop supernova - The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/m

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher wrote: Any other links to "labs blowing up" and "window melting" ? > I don't know about windows melting. I listed 5 incidents in chapter 12 of my book. I have heard there have been other explosions but I have no specific information on them. I have heard that cold fusion experim

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-25 Thread Alan J Fletcher
On the nasa  page http://futureinnovation.larc.nasa.gov/view/articles/futurism/bushnell/low-energy-nuclear-reactions.html   Bushnell said > However, several labs have blown up studying LENR and windows have melted, indicating when the conditions are "right" prodigious amounts of energy can be p

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: To avoid being laughed at and eventually fired, the people at NASA need a > politically correct theory to legitimate their interest in cold fusion. > Maybe, but I think they sincerely believe the W-L theory has merit. I have had some dealings with them, and they seem like NASA p

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
To avoid being laughed at and eventually fired, the people at NASA need a politically correct theory to legitimate their interest in cold fusion. High energy and plasma physics and its conceptual spawn, the standard model all say that the coulomb barrier is inviolate. So how can NASA embrace

RE: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-24 Thread Finlay MacNab
ly difficult to refute. I wish more details of his observations were available. > Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:57:56 +0200 > From: shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video > > Hello group, &g

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-24 Thread pagnucco
The "Page Info" states - Modified: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:36:53 PM I am not sure if that means it was uploaded at that time. > On 2012-05-24 12:57, Akira Shirakawa wrote: >> Hello group, > > Here's a related blog post by Dennis Bushnell (Chief Scientist, NASA > Langley Research Center). I don

Re: [Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-24 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-05-24 12:57, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, Here's a related blog post by Dennis Bushnell (Chief Scientist, NASA Langley Research Center). I don't know exactly how recent this is, but I've never seen it linked before: http://futureinnovation.larc.nasa.gov/view/articles/futurism

[Vo]:Zawodny on LENR in a recently uploaded NASA LaRC YouTube video

2012-05-24 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, This is via ecatnews [1] / NASA Langley RC YouTube Channel [2] Joe Zawodny informally speaks again about his group's recent developments on LENR and future applications/implications. Widom-Larsen theory cited, new very small scale test device shown. This video appears to have be