Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
amen. the sniping that came out of that thread has been going on for over a week now. d.
Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
everybody's got their name printed on their faces. what's the problem if someone starts reading aloud? not comfortable enough? /12 - Original Message - From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:48 AM Subject: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
Re: (313) Re: kings of techno
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 09:48:48AM -0500, kent williams wrote: Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a huge fan of detroit techno. Knowing Garnier personaly for a while (since 1995 when booked him to DJ around here - funded with own money and health! - Organized a couple of tours here for him since then, visited his place in Paris, etc...), I am aware of his interest in Detroit. Bone has great stories about Laurent DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then. Agreed. Similar stories when he was around here. IMHO, he is a great DJ, great technique, but not that great taste. And as for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them? Never tried to judge who's 'Detroit' enough. My point is: this History of Detroit CD and his Retrospective CD sound like a commercial opportunity, without much musical value (not discussing the tracks themselves, they can be found elsewhere). It is only a personal opinion I would like to share (maybe a bit overemphasized last post, sorry!). I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough, any more than, say, a guy from Brazil. I do know that whether you Hey! Am I the only one feeling some prejudice here? Why should the place someone is from matter??? Dont understand why you are mentioning this fact. like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his hearts in the right place. I disagree. Peace. G -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD Sao Paulo, Brasil __
Re: (313) Re: kings of techno
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:59:20AM -0400, Dale Lawrence wrote: I also remember Sonar 1999 when Rich, Jeff Mills, and Laurnet Garnier were all riding bumper cars together--with much 'bloodthirstiness'. That was definitely surreal. I was there as well, together with Stefan Robbers. Great fun. My thoughts were At least once I can bump these guys as much as their music bumps me!!! IIRC, Ferrenc (I-F) was DJing outside at the same time... G -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD Sao Paulo, Brasil __
Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???
Pépé Bradock's Deep Burnt
Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???
Hell yeah!!! A blinder in my book On 6/9/06 3:46 am, Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pépé Bradock's Deep Burnt
Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???
Err -- this thread -- you know it's time for bed when your typos are entire words. On 9/5/06, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now someone should do a mix of all these tracks named on this heads. I'm afraid it would make people's heads explode!
Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???
Now someone should do a mix of all these tracks named on this heads. I'm afraid it would make people's heads explode! On 9/5/06, Ben Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hell yeah!!! A blinder in my book On 6/9/06 3:46 am, Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pépé Bradock's Deep Burnt
Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
The problem is that the continued existence on this list depends on a certain level of mutual respect. I don't know what got put in everybody's food, but people have been way too salty lately. This is supposed to be a mailing list about Detroit Techno, and as such it has historically been a positive force to promote the music. How many heard a few records that became crucial to them, and then found out there was an E-mail list that they could go to for discussion and education on that topic? How many people have formed lasting relationships based around techno because of this list? Would someone coming along in the past 2 weeks see any of that? When things get ugly, things are off course. I'm just this guy who volunteered to administer the list, but I'm a believer in preserving it as a place for positive, substantive discussion. If you've been reading for the past few weeks, you know I don't say anything as Mr. Admin until things cross a certain line. It isn't easy to judge when to step in, so I just do it when it feels like it has to be done. Believe me, judging from my private e-mail, there would be support for me being much more pro-active, and banning people. It shouldn't be like that. And, speaking to those of you who seem to think that they're doing people favors by 'telling it like it is' and 'keeping it real': you aint. Whatever valid points you have, whatever your opinions are, being salty and abusive just negates them. Anything real you have to say, you could say better without being bitches. Do y'all think for a minute you're unique individuals, whose brilliance and insight puts you above the normal rules of civil discourse? Nah, you're just haters, and I got tired of that crap in 1987 on Usenet News. A bunch of cranks working out their frustrations on the Internet. There's nothing unique about you -- you're just members of the bummer demographic. Figure out how to stop being thwarted, bitter people in real life and leave 313 the hell alone. On 9/5/06, v12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: everybody's got their name printed on their faces. what's the problem if someone starts reading aloud? not comfortable enough? /12 - Original Message - From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:48 AM Subject: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
On Sep 5, 2006, at 9:03 PM, v12 wrote: everybody's got their name printed on their faces. what's the problem if someone starts reading aloud? not comfortable enough? The problem is that we've all got the list archives available to us (here's a hint -- they go back to 1994, so you can imagine how fresh all these flame threads are), and with a little judicious application of regular expressions and copy and paste, we are all quite capable of completely reproducing these latest threads, without the slightest bit of conscious thought. Which is precisely how we've arrived at this point, it seems... So please, let's allow the old girl a little rest. restealthing, d.w.
Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
I think the important thing to remember (somewhat similar to what Kent said) is that all of this posting is archived and there may be a time in the future when we look back in hindsight at some of our posts (that maybe we shouldn't have posted) and wished we hadn't posted 'em. Personally, my big shouldn't-have-happened is when I was doing my syndicated radio/net show and got pissed off at Javier Drada because I felt I had premiered something on my show that he said he was premiering on his show. At the time I was pretty fired up about it, but soon after in hindsight I realized it was a pretty foolish thing to give a damn about though I think I kept this to myself and never made it public. So, Javier, if I never apologized for being an ass about that then, please consider this an apology. I think far too often, and not just on this list, on forums, and other forms of cyberspace, we don't a) think should I really bother to post this before posting and b) apologize for our hastiness after we post something we realize maybe we shouldn't have posted. Ditto for in outside-cyberspace life. Being married has made me realize that one of the most important things you can do is be the person to apologize first even when perhaps the other person should have been the one doing the first apologizing. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://cognitionaudioworks.com http://myspace.com/cognitionaudioworks
Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
too much zen, but thats ok.. to sum up. this isnt about namecalling as such. rude truth is handsomer than any of your pseudo-civilised politness.. u think you're that mature? no you arent,you're just old and tired.. even too tired to see the detail of the matter,comparing current affairs to some bs from the 80s.. they seem alike? they arent.. /12 - Original Message - From: Andrew Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 6:06 AM Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t I think the important thing to remember (somewhat similar to what Kent said) is that all of this posting is archived and there may be a time in the future when we look back in hindsight at some of our posts (that maybe we shouldn't have posted) and wished we hadn't posted 'em. Personally, my big shouldn't-have-happened is when I was doing my syndicated radio/net show and got pissed off at Javier Drada because I felt I had premiered something on my show that he said he was premiering on his show. At the time I was pretty fired up about it, but soon after in hindsight I realized it was a pretty foolish thing to give a damn about though I think I kept this to myself and never made it public. So, Javier, if I never apologized for being an ass about that then, please consider this an apology. I think far too often, and not just on this list, on forums, and other forms of cyberspace, we don't a) think should I really bother to post this before posting and b) apologize for our hastiness after we post something we realize maybe we shouldn't have posted. Ditto for in outside-cyberspace life. Being married has made me realize that one of the most important things you can do is be the person to apologize first even when perhaps the other person should have been the one doing the first apologizing. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://cognitionaudioworks.com http://myspace.com/cognitionaudioworks
Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
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To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7 years- might come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better but frankly I doubt it bye Jason On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
Re: (313) Paris (was kings of techno)
In fact, what's happening in the French scene generally at the moment, anything secret and interesting we don't hear about?! nnnahh, nothing particularly interesting: still arguing about soccer world cup and making pop-trash-dance songs with strange videos of Zinedine Zidane hitting our beloved Marco Materazzi http://www.koreus.com/media/zidane-coup-boule-mix.html http://video.google.it/videoplay?docid=-246018052807121745 Sorry, have to make it: tonight it's match-time, again ;) Em - Original Message - From: Matt Chester (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: KiDD*e [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:19 PM Subject: (313) Paris (was kings of techno) What else is going on in Paris these days, is there much good techno about? I only ever hear about nights at Rex and very occasional ones at Nouveau Casino - are there many less obvious nights happening as well? In fact, what's happening in the French scene generally at the moment, anything secret and interesting we don't hear about?! - Original Message - From: KiDD*e [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: kings of techno If some of you are in Paris this thursday (September 7th), he will perform one of his 'all night long' set for the re-opening of the Rex Club : http://www.rexclub.com/ http://www.fcom.fr/ez/index.php/en/dates/(artiste_selection)/Laurent%20Garnier There are other interesting gigs the next days too. - KiDDy. - Original Message - From: Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: kings of techno I remember Laurent performed at a party here in the wrong neighborhood where some shadiness went down. A small crew of 'agents of darkness' strolled in with their concealed weapons. Some gunfire took place and maybe someone actually got shot. Fuzzy memories where I think someone was wounded, but nothing serious. I also remember Sonar 1999 when Rich, Jeff Mills, and Laurnet Garnier were all riding bumper cars together--with much 'bloodthirstiness'. That was definitely surreal. At 10:48 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote: Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a huge fan of detroit techno. Bone has great stories about Laurent DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then. And as for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them? I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough, any more than, say, a guy from Brazil. I do know that whether you like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his hearts in the right place. Tremendously fun DJ to see, because no one in the room is having more fun than him. On 9/5/06, Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:53:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rapster / bbe Tracklisting: CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER 1- The Stooges ?No Fun? 2- Aretha Franklin ?Rock Steady? 3- The Temptations ?Plastic Man? 4- Funkadelic ?Bettino?s Bounce? 5- Carl Craig ?No More Words? 6- Jeff Mills ?Utopia? 7- BFC ?Galaxy? 8- Arpanet ?NTT DoCoMo? 9- D.I.E. ?Get Up? 10- Dabrye ?Game Over? Funny this CD1 is supposed to be a History of Detroit which kind of puzzles me: If it is a History of Detroit Techno, then what are Stooges or Aretha doing there??? (dont say they were D. May inspirations, pls!); Or if it is a Musical History of Detroit (which then explains why Stooges, Aretha and Temptations are listed), then what does Mr. Garnier know about it? Either way, this CD obviously does not represent Detroit musical heritage.
Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
Yeah same here, i have had it with the constant name calling, insults and people who's only purpose is to stir up this list. To bad because i have always liked 313 because of its politeness compared to other mailinglists. KJ --- Eevo Lute Muzique http://www.eevolute.com On 6-sep-2006, at 9:49, Jason Brunton wrote: To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7 years- might come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better but frankly I doubt it bye Jason On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
Re: (313) Re: kings of techno
Also, the explanation to me is very much in line with that Retrospective of Garnier, recent out on F Comm (not to criticise the quality of his music, but what is the point of a retrospective of tracks that are all newer than 10 years, easily available from other sources, some of them released in his last year LP!!!): Pure commercialism/opportunism. Aren't the tracks reworkings with jazz musicians and as such not available anywhere else in that form. Martin
FW: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
-Original Message- From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 02:04 everybody's got their name printed on their faces. what's the problem if someone starts reading aloud? not comfortable enough? You miss the point many (and I'm talking about those who haven't really been involved in the argument) are trying to make (and I add my voice): it's not that we're so uncomfortable with all the name calling that's going on that we can't handle it (though personally I think there's plenty of point in pseudo-civilised politness and that some of the spitefulness and meanness on here - and I take no sides in this, it's been bad from many contributors - recently is just so, so poor) - the point is that the rest of us have got other things to do than sift through a mass of people calling each other out in the hope of finding recommendations for good 12s, upcoming gigs and that kind of thing that were on here for!
RE: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???
Dub version is the killer mix on that 12 -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 September 2006 22:13 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor??? Off my head, Hugh Masekela - Don't go lose it baby Oh yes! Wonderful record.
Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
that's a terrible shame. we are losing some important people who are, in my opinion, vital to the quality of this list. if these people leave, then the list will further decline. thinks it's time that lurkers, like myself, should let their feelings be known. this list has, and still can, be a rewarding muscial source. don't know what's happened the last couple of weeks. it has to be just a blip. and they do seem to happen every couple of years . . . . . and usually involve richie hawtin or race. amazing that technology should cause such vitriol, but there you go. lets get things back on track! On 9/6/06, Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah same here, i have had it with the constant name calling, insults and people who's only purpose is to stir up this list. To bad because i have always liked 313 because of its politeness compared to other mailinglists. KJ --- Eevo Lute Muzique http://www.eevolute.com On 6-sep-2006, at 9:49, Jason Brunton wrote: To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7 years- might come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better but frankly I doubt it bye Jason On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
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I'll second that... -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty that's a terrible shame. we are losing some important people who are, in my opinion, vital to the quality of this list. if these people leave, then the list will further decline. thinks it's time that lurkers, like myself, should let their feelings be known. this list has, and still can, be a rewarding muscial source. don't know what's happened the last couple of weeks. it has to be just a blip. and they do seem to happen every couple of years . . . . and usually involve richie hawtin or race. amazing that technology should cause such vitriol, but there you go. lets get things back on track! On 9/6/06, Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah same here, i have had it with the constant name calling, insults and people who's only purpose is to stir up this list. To bad because i have always liked 313 because of its politeness compared to other mailinglists. KJ --- Eevo Lute Muzique http://www.eevolute.com On 6-sep-2006, at 9:49, Jason Brunton wrote: To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7 years- might come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better but frankly I doubt it bye Jason On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
RE: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
Only recently you pointed me in the right direction on that Orlando V. 12...That's what this list is about for me, info an help, if people who share good info with the list leave then it's a bit pointless for other to be on here. I ask you to reconsider J? -Original Message- From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 08:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: kent williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7 years- might come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better but frankly I doubt it bye Jason On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
RE: (313) Paris (was kings of techno)
Every time I good clubbing in Paris I have a great time, and I love the rex, even if its drinks are very ££. Love the rig and the crowd, very friendly. Also like hearing Laurent when he plays there, the last 12 hour I saw him do there was blinding. -Original Message- From: Emiliano Zani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 08:50 To: Matt Chester (313); KiDD*e; Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) Paris (was kings of techno) In fact, what's happening in the French scene generally at the moment, anything secret and interesting we don't hear about?! nnnahh, nothing particularly interesting: still arguing about soccer world cup and making pop-trash-dance songs with strange videos of Zinedine Zidane hitting our beloved Marco Materazzi http://www.koreus.com/media/zidane-coup-boule-mix.html http://video.google.it/videoplay?docid=-246018052807121745 Sorry, have to make it: tonight it's match-time, again ;) Em - Original Message - From: Matt Chester (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: KiDD*e [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:19 PM Subject: (313) Paris (was kings of techno) What else is going on in Paris these days, is there much good techno about? I only ever hear about nights at Rex and very occasional ones at Nouveau Casino - are there many less obvious nights happening as well? In fact, what's happening in the French scene generally at the moment, anything secret and interesting we don't hear about?! - Original Message - From: KiDD*e [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: kings of techno If some of you are in Paris this thursday (September 7th), he will perform one of his 'all night long' set for the re-opening of the Rex Club : http://www.rexclub.com/ http://www.fcom.fr/ez/index.php/en/dates/(artiste_selection)/Laurent%20Garnier There are other interesting gigs the next days too. - KiDDy. - Original Message - From: Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Re: kings of techno I remember Laurent performed at a party here in the wrong neighborhood where some shadiness went down. A small crew of 'agents of darkness' strolled in with their concealed weapons. Some gunfire took place and maybe someone actually got shot. Fuzzy memories where I think someone was wounded, but nothing serious. I also remember Sonar 1999 when Rich, Jeff Mills, and Laurnet Garnier were all riding bumper cars together--with much 'bloodthirstiness'. That was definitely surreal. At 10:48 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote: Laurent Guarnier started coming to Detroit a long time ago, and is a huge fan of detroit techno. Bone has great stories about Laurent DJ'ing without monitors at sketchy Detroit parties back then. And as for Aretha and Iggy, why wouldn't he know about them? I'm from Iowa, so I don't think I can judge who's 'Detroit' enough, any more than, say, a guy from Brazil. I do know that whether you like Laurent's music or not -- and he's hit or miss for me -- his hearts in the right place. Tremendously fun DJ to see, because no one in the room is having more fun than him. On 9/5/06, Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:53:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rapster / bbe Tracklisting: CD 1: LAURENT GARNIER 1- The Stooges ?No Fun? 2- Aretha Franklin ?Rock Steady? 3- The Temptations ?Plastic Man? 4- Funkadelic ?Bettino?s Bounce? 5- Carl Craig ?No More Words? 6- Jeff Mills ?Utopia? 7- BFC ?Galaxy? 8- Arpanet ?NTT DoCoMo? 9- D.I.E. ?Get Up? 10- Dabrye ?Game Over? Funny this CD1 is supposed to be a History of Detroit which kind of puzzles me: If it is a History of Detroit Techno, then what are Stooges or Aretha doing there??? (dont say they were D. May inspirations, pls!); Or if it is a Musical History of Detroit (which then explains why Stooges, Aretha and Temptations are listed), then what does Mr. Garnier know about it? Either way, this CD obviously does not represent Detroit musical heritage.
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On 6 Sep 2006, at 09:56, Paul Kendrick wrote: Every time I good clubbing in Paris I have a great time, and I love the rex, even if its drinks are very ££. Love the rig and the crowd, very friendly. Also like hearing Laurent when he plays there, the last 12 hour I saw him do there was blinding. 12hrs!!! Jesus, that gives me back ache just thinking about it... Matt, seem to remember you asking about that price for 12 I mentioned on LD, don't think I replied did Ihit me up m
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In fact, what's happening in the French scene generally at the moment, anything secret and interesting we don't hear about?! Innercity/J.A.W. are bringing Marcellus Pitman over on the weekend of the 23rd Sept. Don't remember the exact date or the venue, but those who care enough will probably be able to find out for themselves I guess.
RE: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
It's unfortunate that a few should occasionally spoil it for many. On the other hand, I would suggest a little perspective. Things are usually sedate, reasonable, and dare I say it, they can be on relatively rare occasions, a little boring round here. There is a happy medium - I'm not going to call it, but I'm sure there is one. You could even suggest that the solution, when this sort of things happens is *not* to unsubscribe, but rather to claim the list for one's own. Be the voice of reason or overwhelm those who sometimes go off at a negative tangent, with communications which have a positive tone. Ken -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 09:43 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma Cc: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kent williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t that's a terrible shame. we are losing some important people who are, in my opinion, vital to the quality of this list. if these people leave, then the list will further decline. thinks it's time that lurkers, like myself, should let their feelings be known. this list has, and still can, be a rewarding muscial source. don't know what's happened the last couple of weeks. it has to be just a blip. and they do seem to happen every couple of years . . . . . and usually involve richie hawtin or race. amazing that technology should cause such vitriol, but there you go. lets get things back on track! On 9/6/06, Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah same here, i have had it with the constant name calling, insults and people who's only purpose is to stir up this list. To bad because i have always liked 313 because of its politeness compared to other mailinglists. KJ --- Eevo Lute Muzique http://www.eevolute.com On 6-sep-2006, at 9:49, Jason Brunton wrote: To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7 years- might come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better but frankly I doubt it bye Jason On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
debate is all well and good, but character assassination is, obviously, uncalled for. then the debate goes out the window. becoming the voice of reason only matters if you have some clout on the list, so those whose opinions carry greater respect should speak up. On 9/6/06, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's unfortunate that a few should occasionally spoil it for many. On the other hand, I would suggest a little perspective. Things are usually sedate, reasonable, and dare I say it, they can be on relatively rare occasions, a little boring round here. There is a happy medium - I'm not going to call it, but I'm sure there is one. You could even suggest that the solution, when this sort of things happens is *not* to unsubscribe, but rather to claim the list for one's own. Be the voice of reason or overwhelm those who sometimes go off at a negative tangent, with communications which have a positive tone. Ken -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 09:43 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma Cc: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kent williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t that's a terrible shame. we are losing some important people who are, in my opinion, vital to the quality of this list. if these people leave, then the list will further decline. thinks it's time that lurkers, like myself, should let their feelings be known. this list has, and still can, be a rewarding muscial source. don't know what's happened the last couple of weeks. it has to be just a blip. and they do seem to happen every couple of years . . . . . and usually involve richie hawtin or race. amazing that technology should cause such vitriol, but there you go. lets get things back on track! On 9/6/06, Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah same here, i have had it with the constant name calling, insults and people who's only purpose is to stir up this list. To bad because i have always liked 313 because of its politeness compared to other mailinglists. KJ --- Eevo Lute Muzique http://www.eevolute.com On 6-sep-2006, at 9:49, Jason Brunton wrote: To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7 years- might come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better but frankly I doubt it bye Jason On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
On 9/6/06, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could even suggest that the solution, when this sort of things happens is *not* to unsubscribe, but rather to claim the list for one's own. Be the voice of reason or overwhelm those who sometimes go off at a negative tangent, with communications which have a positive tone. its funny that people give me grief because i post alot, but nothing is stopping any of them from posting all they want about anything. tom
Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
i wouldn't give you grief over posting a lot. without posts there would be no list. and i like the fact that you are opinionated and stick to your guns, and display passion in your beliefs. just don't understand how recent debates have become so personal; i just can't get my head around how these debates got out of control that led to such personal attacks. in the greater scheme of things, they don't seem to matter that much. aidan On 9/6/06, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/6/06, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could even suggest that the solution, when this sort of things happens is *not* to unsubscribe, but rather to claim the list for one's own. Be the voice of reason or overwhelm those who sometimes go off at a negative tangent, with communications which have a positive tone. its funny that people give me grief because i post alot, but nothing is stopping any of them from posting all they want about anything. tom
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i agree ken. i just joined a few weeks ago and this is practically all i've seen, but i'm not going to unsub yet because i haven't had a chance to learn and discuss what i came here for. i'd say, if people start sh!t like that and don't go away (and aren't removed from the list), then counter their posts with brand new topics about something interesting to you. hopefully this will drown out the bad with good and keep the good folks around. d. It's unfortunate that a few should occasionally spoil it for many. On the other hand, I would suggest a little perspective. Things are usually sedate, reasonable, and dare I say it, they can be on relatively rare occasions, a little boring round here. There is a happy medium - I'm not going to call it, but I'm sure there is one. You could even suggest that the solution, when this sort of things happens is *not* to unsubscribe, but rather to claim the list for one's own. Be the voice of reason or overwhelm those who sometimes go off at a negative tangent, with communications which have a positive tone. Ken -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 09:43 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma Cc: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kent williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t that's a terrible shame. we are losing some important people who are, in my opinion, vital to the quality of this list. if these people leave, then the list will further decline. thinks it's time that lurkers, like myself, should let their feelings be known. this list has, and still can, be a rewarding muscial source. don't know what's happened the last couple of weeks. it has to be just a blip. and they do seem to happen every couple of years . . . . . and usually involve richie hawtin or race. amazing that technology should cause such vitriol, but there you go. lets get things back on track! On 9/6/06, Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah same here, i have had it with the constant name calling, insults and people who's only purpose is to stir up this list. To bad because i have always liked 313 because of its politeness compared to other mailinglists. KJ --- Eevo Lute Muzique http://www.eevolute.com On 6-sep-2006, at 9:49, Jason Brunton wrote: To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7 years- might come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better but frankly I doubt it bye Jason On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
RE: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
I didn't see the namecalling - as soon as it gets boring, I hit delete when I see the header - no problem - better than unsubscribing in a huff, esp if you only ever post to moan about the state of the list. If that's all you're there to do, see ya! -Original Message- From: chthonic streams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 13:20 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t i agree ken. i just joined a few weeks ago and this is practically all i've seen, but i'm not going to unsub yet because i haven't had a chance to learn and discuss what i came here for. i'd say, if people start sh!t like that and don't go away (and aren't removed from the list), then counter their posts with brand new topics about something interesting to you. hopefully this will drown out the bad with good and keep the good folks around. d. It's unfortunate that a few should occasionally spoil it for many. On the other hand, I would suggest a little perspective. Things are usually sedate, reasonable, and dare I say it, they can be on relatively rare occasions, a little boring round here. There is a happy medium - I'm not going to call it, but I'm sure there is one. You could even suggest that the solution, when this sort of things happens is *not* to unsubscribe, but rather to claim the list for one's own. Be the voice of reason or overwhelm those who sometimes go off at a negative tangent, with communications which have a positive tone. Ken -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 09:43 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma Cc: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kent williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t that's a terrible shame. we are losing some important people who are, in my opinion, vital to the quality of this list. if these people leave, then the list will further decline. thinks it's time that lurkers, like myself, should let their feelings be known. this list has, and still can, be a rewarding muscial source. don't know what's happened the last couple of weeks. it has to be just a blip. and they do seem to happen every couple of years . . . . . and usually involve richie hawtin or race. amazing that technology should cause such vitriol, but there you go. lets get things back on track! On 9/6/06, Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah same here, i have had it with the constant name calling, insults and people who's only purpose is to stir up this list. To bad because i have always liked 313 because of its politeness compared to other mailinglists. KJ --- Eevo Lute Muzique http://www.eevolute.com On 6-sep-2006, at 9:49, Jason Brunton wrote: To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7 years- might come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better but frankly I doubt it bye Jason On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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better than unsubscribing in a huff, esp if you only ever post to moan about the state of the list. If that's all you're there to do, see ya! Well said Rob, I've gotta 99 problems but this list aint one m
RE: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
Was I namecalling? I can't remember. Apologies if any of my messages had more noise than signal.
RE: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
Not directly related to the current discussion, but after 11 years or so, I'm un-subbing too. The signal to noise ratio has got out of hand lately and to be honest, there hasn't been a Detroit techno record that's got me excited much in the last couple of years anyway. I've kept an eye on the list for news on new stuff I should check out, but I have to sift through too much rubbish to find any of that info these days and I don't have the time for it. I haven't contributed much in the last few years anyway, but thanks to all the old-timers for our discussions back in the day - its been fun! Sean. -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 09:02 To: Jason Brunton Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kent williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t Yeah same here, i have had it with the constant name calling, insults and people who's only purpose is to stir up this list. To bad because i have always liked 313 because of its politeness compared to other mailinglists. KJ --- Eevo Lute Muzique http://www.eevolute.com On 6-sep-2006, at 9:49, Jason Brunton wrote: To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7 years- might come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better but frankly I doubt it bye Jason On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
(313) second state
I rediscovered this amazing track by Kenny Larkin, on the Catatonic EP on RS, don't know if it's now repressed as well? all should be and all people should stay! :-) join me, here since 1994!
(313) carl craig and rhythmsound last saturday
well, i wish i could say it was a blast, but i missed all but the last half hour of c2's set :( it was raining and nasty all afternoon driving down, and about the first thing i hear once i get to the dancefloor is strings of life. carl was letting every track play out, so he only dropped two or three more tracks by the time 7PM rolled around and rhythm and sound came on. they played all dub tracks as expected (some people i have talked to since were apparently expecting rs to play techno). i don't even think they played any of their own stuff. they never really mixed between tracks; they'd just cut real quick or turn out the huge wall of sound effects. sound system was great, much better than the crummy system at the providence noise fest the night before :) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Relying on the header is insufficient. Frequently people will change the subject line. You must really set a filter on the In-Reply-To: header but unfortunately this list does not support that. On Sep 6, 2006, at 10:21, Robert Taylor wrote: I didn't see the namecalling - as soon as it gets boring, I hit delete when I see the header - no problem - better than unsubscribing in a huff, esp if you only ever post to moan about the state of the list. If that's all you're there to do, see ya! -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It doesn't take long to scan to see if it's worth your while reading - hell, I get up to 400 emails a day on work matters and not all are relevant - I've got quite skilled at skimming for relevance :) -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 13:35 To: Robert Taylor Cc: chthonic streams; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t Relying on the header is insufficient. Frequently people will change the subject line. You must really set a filter on the In-Reply-To: header but unfortunately this list does not support that. On Sep 6, 2006, at 10:21, Robert Taylor wrote: I didn't see the namecalling - as soon as it gets boring, I hit delete when I see the header - no problem - better than unsubscribing in a huff, esp if you only ever post to moan about the state of the list. If that's all you're there to do, see ya! -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) carl craig and rhythmsound last saturday
You missed the best part of C2 set. I started to lose interest towards the end as well. He played some Paperclip People stuff earlier, some Mills (The Bells a cut from the b-side earlier then that... Alarms maybe?), and a track from Martin Buttrichs's new release on Planet E. It was nice to see some head out as the weather did suck. RS was not what I expected either , we left shortly into their set. Jason Trolian -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:35 AM To: 313 Mailing List Subject: (313) carl craig and rhythmsound last saturday well, i wish i could say it was a blast, but i missed all but the last half hour of c2's set :( it was raining and nasty all afternoon driving down, and about the first thing i hear once i get to the dancefloor is strings of life. carl was letting every track play out, so he only dropped two or three more tracks by the time 7PM rolled around and rhythm and sound came on. they played all dub tracks as expected (some people i have talked to since were apparently expecting rs to play techno). i don't even think they played any of their own stuff. they never really mixed between tracks; they'd just cut real quick or turn out the huge wall of sound effects. sound system was great, much better than the crummy system at the providence noise fest the night before :) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) second state
yep, great track. isn't it use on an x-mix. i personally find it a right b*gger to mix with. picked it up a few years back when a bunch were found in a warehouse . . . . . . makes me think of the last shot in raiders of the lost ark. aidan On 9/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rediscovered this amazing track by Kenny Larkin, on the Catatonic EP on RS, don't know if it's now repressed as well? all should be and all people should stay! :-) join me, here since 1994!
(313) ellen allien/apparat show
well it's not detroit tchno, but all techno originates from detroit right? then somehow made it over to berlin where people like ellen allien take it in similar but unique directions. so in the spirit of trying to post something actually about techno, here's a blog post i just put up about the show i saw last thursday: http://echoplex.blogspot.com/2006/09/two-hearts-beat-as-one.html if you check the archives, i've written about some other shows like audion that might be of interest to people here. d.
Re: (313) Paris (was kings of techno)
- Original Message - From: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: Re: (313) Paris (was kings of techno) In fact, what's happening in the French scene generally at the moment, anything secret and interesting we don't hear about?! Innercity/J.A.W. are bringing Marcellus Pitman over on the weekend of the 23rd Sept. Don't remember the exact date or the venue, but those who care enough will probably be able to find out for themselves I guess. Here is the infos : http://www.myspace.com/jaw_innercity http://www.jawfamily.com/
(313) beatsinspace - carl craig set
anyone have a tracklisting for this set from tim sweeney's beatsinspace.net - looking for the identity of track after ymo early on in set. thanks, aidan
Re: (313) ellen allien/apparat show
thanks for that! unfortunately i haven't seen them playing live together yet. just attended a brilliant dj-set from ellen at melt! festival two months ago. and btw: ellen allien apparat - jet is for sure one of the best techno tracks i heard this year. killer. c* chthonic streams schrieb: well it's not detroit tchno, but all techno originates from detroit right? then somehow made it over to berlin where people like ellen allien take it in similar but unique directions. so in the spirit of trying to post something actually about techno, here's a blog post i just put up about the show i saw last thursday: http://echoplex.blogspot.com/2006/09/two-hearts-beat-as-one.html if you check the archives, i've written about some other shows like audion that might be of interest to people here. d.
Re: (313) Paris (was kings of techno)
I agree, drinks are so expansive since the change of currency to Euro. This years they have rebuild the whole sound system, it's promising ! And Laurent will inaugurate it Thursday. - Some good links for Paris and France : Schedule : http://www.flyerweb.com/ http://www.24-heures.net/ Clubs : http://www.rexclub.com/ http://www.batofar.org/ http://www.nouveaucasino.net/ http://www.letriptyque.com/ http://www.scenebastille.com/ http://www.djoon.fr/club/ Magazines : http://www.codamag.com/ http://trax.over-blog.com/ Parties : http://www.technorama.fr/ http://guysndolls.free.fr/ http://www.weloveart.net/ - Original Message - From: Paul Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Emiliano Zani [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matt Chester (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; KiDD*e [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:56 AM Subject: RE: (313) Paris (was kings of techno) Every time I good clubbing in Paris I have a great time, and I love the rex, even if its drinks are very ££. Love the rig and the crowd, very friendly. Also like hearing Laurent when he plays there, the last 12 hour I saw him do there was blinding.
Re: (313) screaming the truth
this is the the most ridiculous show ive witnessed for ages.. unsubscribing drama queens whose party's been spoiled... instead of crying, write an official letter of complaint to the admin and tell who is that villain who destroys your imaginary perfect discourse.. detroit - where the weak are killed and eaten ^seems the actual detroiters have already been banned from this list or never knew it existed.. the line between sophisticated and the pathetic is thinner than some of you think. you do think right? /12 From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; chthonic streams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t better than unsubscribing in a huff, esp if you only ever post to moan about the state of the list. If that's all you're there to do, see ya! Well said Rob, I've gotta 99 problems but this list aint one m
Re: (313) Re: kings of techno
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 09:07:54AM +0100, Martin Dust wrote: Also, the explanation to me is very much in line with that Retrospective of Garnier, recent out on F Comm (not to criticise the quality of his music, but what is the point of a retrospective of tracks that are all newer than 10 years, easily available from other sources, some of them released in his last year LP!!!): Pure commercialism/opportunism. Aren't the tracks reworkings with jazz musicians and as such not available anywhere else in that form. No, it cointains only two live tracks (among a total of 23) which were recorded with jazz musicians. These are actually the only two previously unreleased tracks. G -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD Sao Paulo, Brasil __
RE: (313) screaming the truth
I didn't think there was that much crying really, just several people saying they're unsubbing as they can't be bothered with posts like this, as opposed to those talking about music, parties and the like. I maintain it's a shame as some of them have been pretty interesting contributors over the years I've (generally) lurked. For the record, I'm one of those who's not that bothered, as I'll just delete the mail, but I think it's unfortunate that (to my mind)some good contributors are bowing out. I think Ken nailed it earlier 'On the other hand, I would suggest a little perspective' -Original Message- From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 15:30 To: Martin Dust; Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; chthonic streams Subject: Re: (313) screaming the truth this is the the most ridiculous show ive witnessed for ages.. unsubscribing drama queens whose party's been spoiled... instead of crying, write an official letter of complaint to the admin and tell who is that villain who destroys your imaginary perfect discourse..
(313) Screaming to be heard
Actually I have the solution for everyone. We have the ability to police our very own 313. Just use your email filters to weed out anyone that you have found to rarely contribute to constructive discussion-- even me if you choose to. DL At 10:29 AM 9/6/2006, v12 wrote: this is the the most ridiculous show ive witnessed for ages.. unsubscribing drama queens whose party's been spoiled... instead of crying, write an official letter of complaint to the admin and tell who is that villain who destroys your imaginary perfect discourse.. detroit - where the weak are killed and eaten ^seems the actual detroiters have already been banned from this list or never knew it existed.. the line between sophisticated and the pathetic is thinner than some of you think. you do think right? /12 From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; chthonic streams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t better than unsubscribing in a huff, esp if you only ever post to moan about the state of the list. If that's all you're there to do, see ya! Well said Rob, I've gotta 99 problems but this list aint one m
RE: (313) screaming the truth
this is the the most ridiculous show ive witnessed for ages.. Most of us can only agree with you ... however we might be thinking about a different 'show'! :-) Ken
RE: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
This too shall pass... and then get brought back up again 6 months from now in another glorious war of flaming emails. ;-) MEK Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/06/2006 09:21:05 AM: I didn't see the namecalling - as soon as it gets boring, I hit delete when I see the header - no problem - better than unsubscribing in a huff, esp if you only ever post to moan about the state of the list. If that's all you're there to do, see ya! -Original Message- From: chthonic streams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 13:20 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t i agree ken. i just joined a few weeks ago and this is practically all i've seen, but i'm not going to unsub yet because i haven't had a chance to learn and discuss what i came here for. i'd say, if people start sh!t like that and don't go away (and aren't removed from the list), then counter their posts with brand new topics about something interesting to you. hopefully this will drown out the bad with good and keep the good folks around. d. It's unfortunate that a few should occasionally spoil it for many. On the other hand, I would suggest a little perspective. Things are usually sedate, reasonable, and dare I say it, they can be on relatively rare occasions, a little boring round here. There is a happy medium - I'm not going to call it, but I'm sure there is one. You could even suggest that the solution, when this sort of things happens is *not* to unsubscribe, but rather to claim the list for one's own. Be the voice of reason or overwhelm those who sometimes go off at a negative tangent, with communications which have a positive tone. Ken -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 09:43 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma Cc: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kent williams; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t that's a terrible shame. we are losing some important people who are, in my opinion, vital to the quality of this list. if these people leave, then the list will further decline. thinks it's time that lurkers, like myself, should let their feelings be known. this list has, and still can, be a rewarding muscial source. don't know what's happened the last couple of weeks. it has to be just a blip. and they do seem to happen every couple of years . . . . . and usually involve richie hawtin or race. amazing that technology should cause such vitriol, but there you go. lets get things back on track! On 9/6/06, Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah same here, i have had it with the constant name calling, insults and people who's only purpose is to stir up this list. To bad because i have always liked 313 because of its politeness compared to other mailinglists. KJ --- Eevo Lute Muzique http://www.eevolute.com On 6-sep-2006, at 9:49, Jason Brunton wrote: To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7 years- might come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better but frankly I doubt it bye Jason On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Track -id
Hello everybody, Could you help me id this short sample: http://media.putfile.com/Sample-61-24. It is probably UR related. I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. PS: hope this comes trough, been having trouble posting
Re: (313) ellen allien/apparat show
Excellent blog post...and photos, too? Oh my. Thanks for that. Your review makes me upset about missing their Chicago performance this past Sunday. :( Apparat live sets have always been a pleasure. Now I wish I had been there. bo -Ray On 9/6/06 9:00 AM, chthonic streams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well it's not detroit tchno, but all techno originates from detroit right? then somehow made it over to berlin where people like ellen allien take it in similar but unique directions. so in the spirit of trying to post something actually about techno, here's a blog post i just put up about the show i saw last thursday: http://echoplex.blogspot.com/2006/09/two-hearts-beat-as-one.html if you check the archives, i've written about some other shows like audion that might be of interest to people here. d.
Re: (313) Ableton DJ Mix
Since my last post did came trough, i want to give this one another try: A bit of a late reply, but I finally re-found the link I wanted to post. This: http://www.idiom.com/~zilla/Work/VisualIDs/visualids.html is what you (Emiliano Zani) want. Too bad there is no software available that can do this! This is definately something to look out for in the future. Peter On 7/28/06, P.A. Keur BICT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it's really old-fashion, but I still have problems not using records... cds and file names looks exactly all the same, without covers or colors or anything that helps me, and I'm still desperatly trying to organize the in categories, bpms, ecc... But when I look at them, they don't tell me anything. But when you grab some records, look at the colors, the picture, ecc and THEY tell you play me, it's my time. Em
Re: (313) Track -id
Could you help me id this short sample: http://media.putfile.com/Sample-61-24. It is probably UR related. I would really appreciate it. Don't recognise it, but would like to know.
(313) techno slump
I'm in one and can't seem to raise any interest in dance music at the moment - what's going on? Maybe it's the anticipation of fall and winter, the prospect of a really cold season this year, and some sort of hibernation instinct is kicking in. Things I've been listening to lately: Tunng Minotaur Shock stuff on the Touch record label Colleen various items from the Fence Collective Isan Adem My Latest Novel Durutti Column Grizzly Bear more folky? Eh maybe experimentations in the acoustic/electronic mix. Anyone have suggestions for more stuff like this and also something that might ease me back toward wanting to hear some beats again. MEK
Re: (313) Track -id
No idea what that is, and I'd love to know. I dislike putfile, so Peter emailed it to me and here's a direct link you can stream in winamp or whatever: http://www.cornwarning.com/xfer/PKeur-MysteryTrack.mp3 On 9/6/06, P.A. Keur BICT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, Could you help me id this short sample: http://media.putfile.com/Sample-61-24. It is probably UR related. I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. PS: hope this comes trough, been having trouble posting
RE: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
Damn. Osselaer, Jason, KJ and Sean all in one day. These are 4 of the best people I've everhad the pleasure to meet. We've partied all over the world. I never would have met them if it hadn't been for this list.I hope you guys come back once the pissing match of 06has ended. From:"Sean Creen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:"Klaas-Jan Jongsma" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"Jason Brunton" [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"kent williams" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"list 313" 313@hyperreal.orgSubject:RE: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!tDate:Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:32:18 +0100Not directly related to the current discussion, but after 11 years orso, I'm un-subbing too. The signal to noise ratio has got out of handlately and to be honest, there hasn't been a Detroit techno recordthat's got me excited much in the last couple of years anyway. I've keptan eye on the list for news on new stuff I should check out, but I haveto sift through too much rubbish to find any of that info these days andI don't have the time for it.I haven't contributed much in the last few years anyway, but thanks toall the old-timers for our discussions back in the day - its been fun!Sean.-Original Message-From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 06 September 2006 09:02To: Jason BruntonCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kent williams; list 313Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!tYeah same here, i have had it with the constant name calling, insultsand people who's only purpose is to stir up this list. To bad becausei have always liked 313 because of its politeness compared to othermailinglists.KJ---Eevo Lute Muziquehttp://www.eevolute.comOn 6-sep-2006, at 9:49, Jason Brunton wrote: To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7years- might come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better but frankly I doubt it bye JasonOn 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere. If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that mailbox in ages due to spam. Take care everybody, John - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM Aan: 'list 313' Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t ... and it should stop.
RE: (313) techno slump
Surely this'll prove temporary MEK? For me, maintaining a good balance of techno/electronic with 'everything else' is essential to keep one's interest going in both. Healthy balanced diet kinda thing! :-) Maybe some recommendations from both sides might help (some relatively new, some less so.) 'Electronic' 1. 'Lifeworks' compilation - I anticipate this staying to close to hand for months. 2. 'Data Mining In Anthilla' - Gosub (very dense and very sweet, impossible to get bored of this electro, I think so anyway.) 3. 'Trans Canada Hi-Way' Boards of Canada - download-able in FLAC from Bleep.com if you can't be bothered to digitise it! 'Not Electronic' 1. 'Antics' by Interpol - unadorned funky NY rock - is it me, or are there really drum bass-style breaks on this?!? 2. 'Eraser' - By Thom Yorke - easy to dismiss, but well worth getting to know very well. (You do have to have already gotten over his whine though!) 3.'Hot Funky Sweaty - The Sound of Heavy Soul Funk' compilation. OK, vinyl snobs step-off whilst people like me with not so well-furnished pockets but still an open mind continue discovering. This is a good place to start and the title says it all. (Late '60s, '70s) 4. 'Tago Mago' - Can. Why not?
Re: (313) techno slump
Anyone have suggestions for more stuff like this and also something that might ease me back toward wanting to hear some beats again. On the 'folk' tip, I just got sent the new Alexander Tucker album on ATP - it's brilliant. On the electronic tip, listening to The Eurythmic's 'Touch' LP always reinvigorates my love of electronic music. That album is the mothership for me because I heard it when very young, it had a profound influence. Arpanet's 'Wireless Internet' LP is also really doing it for me. I'm on a bit of a 'Donaldfest' at the moment.
RE: (313) techno slump
Arpanet's 'Wireless Internet' LP is also really doing it for me. Good one, especially the beat-less title track. Get a cup of tea, sit down and listen, and know everything's going to be alright! Ken
Re: (313) techno slump
On 9/6/06, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arpanet's 'Wireless Internet' LP is also really doing it for me. Good one, especially the beat-less title track. Get a cup of tea, sit down and listen, and know everything's going to be alright! on a drexciya related tip, ive been rocking the second (weird) dopplereffekt CD and the Other People Place LP alot recently tom
Re: (313) Track -id
Rolando mixed this track on his Vibrations cd. It is listed as Red Z track B1 by the Deacon. Nice one. -drew On 9/6/06, P.A. Keur BICT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, Could you help me id this short sample: http://media.putfile.com/Sample-61-24. It is probably UR related. I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. PS: hope this comes trough, been having trouble posting
Re: (313) Ableton DJ Mix
On Sep 6, 2006, at 10:58, P.A. Keur BICT wrote: Too bad there is no software available that can do this! ahem: http://www.steelskies.com/coverflow/ -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) techno slump
that is acctually one of my all time favorite records!!! On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Odeluga, Ken wrote: 4. 'Tago Mago' - Can. Why not? www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net
RE: (313) techno slump
I like the stuff done AME a lot @ the momentdeep stuff.. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 6 september 2006 17:39 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: (313) techno slump Anyone have suggestions for more stuff like this and also something that might ease me back toward wanting to hear some beats again. On the 'folk' tip, I just got sent the new Alexander Tucker album on ATP - it's brilliant. On the electronic tip, listening to The Eurythmic's 'Touch' LP always reinvigorates my love of electronic music. That album is the mothership for me because I heard it when very young, it had a profound influence. Arpanet's 'Wireless Internet' LP is also really doing it for me. I'm on a bit of a 'Donaldfest' at the moment.
RE: (313) carl craig and rhythmsound last saturday
I caught Rhythm Sound in Chicago, and I thought they were great. Their set was in the tradition of Jamaican sound systems, hence the lack of mixing. I'm pretty sure there were a bunch of custom edits. They were playing on a laptop with Serato. There were some really amazing riddims as they got deep into digital dub late in the set. Some of the dubs were pretty close to their techno output. I did a brief report for Gridface here: http://www.gridface.com/features/hero_worship.html I wish I could have stayed until 3:00, but I had to leave Santa Fe at 5:00 a.m. to get to Chicago. Cheers, Jacob Jason Trolian wrote: You missed the best part of C2 set. I started to lose interest towards the end as well. He played some Paperclip People stuff earlier, some Mills (The Bells a cut from the b-side earlier then that... Alarms maybe?), and a track from Martin Buttrichs's new release on Planet E. It was nice to see some head out as the weather did suck. RS was not what I expected either , we left shortly into their set. Jason Trolian
Re: (313) Screaming to be heard
On Sep 6, 2006, at 10:40, Dale Lawrence wrote: Actually I have the solution for everyone. We have the ability to police our very own 313. Just use your email filters to weed out anyone that you have found to rarely contribute to constructive discussion-- even me if you choose to. Now, if only the rest of you could stop replying to the people in my killfile, I'd appreciate it. :) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Track -id
Superb! Thanks a lot Kent and Drew for you lightning-fast responses! Now the next question: was it ever released om 12? On 9/6/06, Drew Daugherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolando mixed this track on his Vibrations cd. It is listed as Red Z track B1 by the Deacon. Nice one. -drew On 9/6/06, P.A. Keur BICT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, Could you help me id this short sample: http://media.putfile.com/Sample-61-24. It is probably UR related. I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. PS: hope this comes trough, been having trouble posting
Re: (313) Track -id
Unless I am mistaken, the Z records were only given to UR DJs and perhaps their friends. I don't think they were ever for sale, even from the submerge store itself. -drew On 9/6/06, P.A. Keur BICT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Superb! Thanks a lot Kent and Drew for you lightning-fast responses! Now the next question: was it ever released om 12? On 9/6/06, Drew Daugherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolando mixed this track on his Vibrations cd. It is listed as Red Z track B1 by the Deacon. Nice one. -drew On 9/6/06, P.A. Keur BICT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, Could you help me id this short sample: http://media.putfile.com/Sample-61-24. It is probably UR related. I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. PS: hope this comes trough, been having trouble posting
FW: (313) Track -id
Those Z things are v.limited pressings used by UR DJs etc. AFAIK, though other folks on here would know better than me whether you can or could get them from Somewhere In Detroit or some other clandestine method. Judging from the B1 it must have actually been on wax though. -Original Message- From: P.A. Keur BICT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 18:16 Superb! Thanks a lot Kent and Drew for you lightning-fast responses! Now the next question: was it ever released om 12? On 9/6/06, Drew Daugherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolando mixed this track on his Vibrations cd. It is listed as Red Z track B1 by the Deacon. Nice one.
Re: (313) screaming the truth / techno slump
calm down mr v12 please. enough of this soap opera nonsense. talk about music, move on. it's just a mailing list. what's with all the fragile ego's, hostility, insecurity. haven't any of you disagreed with anyone else before. knowing many of those people who have unsubbed..they are far from drama queens. and they had been on the list far far longer than you. they can do whatever they want. let's talk about music. re new nice techno, that octogen record on soma is surprisingly good. check it out at clone -- they have a very nice new embedded soundclip system, very cool...also dan curtin's new record on klang is very nice i think, wish it had another track or two tho since it's such good stuff...leaves you wanting more. and i am anxiously awaiting that buttrich record on planet e, it's huge...i hear berlin, new york and detroit all wrapped up in one in it.. just dropped some $$ at submerge over the weekend, guess it's a bit late to tip, but they are having a big sale, some real nice finds...a couple old planet e's for $1 for instance... -Original Message- From: v12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 6, 2006 10:29 AM To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org, chthonic streams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) screaming the truth this is the the most ridiculous show ive witnessed for ages.. unsubscribing drama queens whose party's been spoiled... instead of crying, write an official letter of complaint to the admin and tell who is that villain who destroys your imaginary perfect discourse.. detroit - where the weak are killed and eaten ^seems the actual detroiters have already been banned from this list or never knew it existed.. the line between sophisticated and the pathetic is thinner than some of you think. you do think right? /12
Re: (313) screaming the truth / techno slump
calm down mr v12 please. enough of this soap opera nonsense. talk about music, move on. dont take it so serious. it's just a mailing list. what's with all the fragile ego's, hostility, insecurity. haven't any of you disagreed with anyone else before. knowing many of those people who have unsubbed..they are far from drama queens. and they had been on the list far far longer than you. they can do whatever they want. let's talk about music. re new nice techno, that octogen record on soma is surprisingly good. check it out at clone -- they have a very nice new embedded soundclip system, very cool...also dan curtin's new record on klang is very nice i think, wish it had another track or two tho since it's such good stuff...leaves you wanting more. and i am anxiously awaiting that buttrich record on planet e, it's huge...i hear berlin, new york and detroit all wrapped up in one in it.. just dropped some $$ at submerge over the weekend, guess it's a bit late to tip, but they are having a big sale, some real nice finds...a couple old planet e's for $1 for instance... -Original Message- From: v12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 6, 2006 10:29 AM To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org, chthonic streams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) screaming the truth this is the the most ridiculous show ive witnessed for ages.. unsubscribing drama queens whose party's been spoiled... instead of crying, write an official letter of complaint to the admin and tell who is that villain who destroys your imaginary perfect discourse.. detroit - where the weak are killed and eaten ^seems the actual detroiters have already been banned from this list or never knew it existed.. the line between sophisticated and the pathetic is thinner than some of you think. you do think right? /12
Re: (313) Track -id
from the mists of time comes the last time this came up, and the time before that! http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/2001/04/60202/ http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/2004/05/105166/ http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/2004/05/105171/ and http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/2004/05/105173/ On Sep 6, 2006, at 13:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those Z things are v.limited pressings used by UR DJs etc. AFAIK, though other folks on here would know better than me whether you can or could get them from Somewhere In Detroit or some other clandestine method. Judging from the B1 it must have actually been on wax though. -Original Message- From: P.A. Keur BICT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 18:16 Superb! Thanks a lot Kent and Drew for you lightning-fast responses! Now the next question: was it ever released om 12? On 9/6/06, Drew Daugherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolando mixed this track on his Vibrations cd. It is listed as Red Z track B1 by the Deacon. Nice one. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Track -id
Add it to the list FAQ perhaps :) -drew On 9/6/06, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from the mists of time comes the last time this came up, and the time before that! http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/2001/04/60202/ http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/2004/05/105166/ http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/2004/05/105171/ and http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/2004/05/105173/ On Sep 6, 2006, at 13:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those Z things are v.limited pressings used by UR DJs etc. AFAIK, though other folks on here would know better than me whether you can or could get them from Somewhere In Detroit or some other clandestine method. Judging from the B1 it must have actually been on wax though. -Original Message- From: P.A. Keur BICT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2006 18:16 Superb! Thanks a lot Kent and Drew for you lightning-fast responses! Now the next question: was it ever released om 12? On 9/6/06, Drew Daugherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolando mixed this track on his Vibrations cd. It is listed as Red Z track B1 by the Deacon. Nice one. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) techno slump
that is acctually one of my all time favorite records!!! Totally, the remastered version is one of the best albums I've ever heard. On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Odeluga, Ken wrote: 4. 'Tago Mago' - Can. Why not? www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net
(313) Sept7-Transmit RooftopPatio w/Pheek(MTL),TomKuo+FilmFestFun (fwd)
Transmit Thursdays Live from The View at 222 Thursday, September 7th, 2006 Location: 222 Richmond St.W Rooftop Patio $5 before 11:00pm - $10 after $3 SPECIALS ALL NIGHT LONG For more info visit: http://www.xanuradio.com/transmit SEE THE PHOTO'S FROM TRANSMIT AUGUST 17th - CLICK HERE! This Thursdays Confirmed Artists: PHEEK Live PA (Montreal) Archipel, M_nus Inspired by the art of the DJ culture, Jean-Patrice Remillard (a.k.a. Pheek) eschews the traditional dance formula and instead constructs techno that echoes the intensity of Richie Hawtin's cozy melodies. For those seeking minimalism, Pheek's sultry atmospherics--which stretch the boundaries between acid house and techno's main components--are a refreshing antidote. NAW Live PA noisefactory, phoniq.net Tom Kuo wabi, minimal.ca Christian Skjodt christianskjodt.ca, xanuradio *For our 10th week anniversary special and to help kick off the Film Festival, Christian Skjodt will be releasing his new DVD Visual DJ Mix Lost and Found showing from 9pm - 10pm on the rooftop.* Join us on Thursday September 7th as we celebrate Transmits 10th week anniversary live to air on xanuradio and the extremely tasty $3 SPECIALS All Night... Each week we select new artists to rock the patio for your outdoor enjoyment. * * Look forward to seeing everyone there.. Xanuradio.com Team International Listeners: Be sure to tune in to Xanuradio.com for this one starting at 10pm EST (-5 GMT). Click here to listen in: http://www.xanuradio.com/listennow.php
(313) Sept7-Transmit RooftopPatio w/Pheek(MTL),NAW,TomKou+FilmFestFun
Transmit Thursdays Live from The View at 222 Thursday, September 7th, 2006 Location: 222 Richmond St.W Rooftop Patio $5 before 11:00pm - $10 after $3 SPECIALS ALL NIGHT LONG For more info visit: http://www.xanuradio.com/transmit SEE THE PHOTO'S FROM TRANSMIT AUGUST 17th - CLICK HERE! This Thursdays Confirmed Artists: PHEEK Live PA (Montreal) Archipel, M_nus Inspired by the art of the DJ culture, Jean-Patrice Remillard (a.k.a. Pheek) eschews the traditional dance formula and instead constructs techno that echoes the intensity of Richie Hawtin's cozy melodies. For those seeking minimalism, Pheek's sultry atmospherics--which stretch the boundaries between acid house and techno's main components--are a refreshing antidote. NAW Live PA noisefactory, phoniq.net Tom Kuo wabi, minimal.ca Christian Skjodt christianskjodt.ca, xanuradio *For our 10th week anniversary special and to help kick off the Film Festival, Christian Skjodt will be releasing his new DVD Visual DJ Mix Lost and Found showing from 9pm - 10pm on the rooftop.* Join us on Thursday September 7th as we celebrate Transmits 10th week anniversary live to air on xanuradio and the extremely tasty $3 SPECIALS All Night... Each week we select new artists to rock the patio for your outdoor enjoyment. * * Look forward to seeing everyone there.. Xanuradio.com Team International Listeners: Be sure to tune in to Xanuradio.com for this one starting at 10pm EST (-5 GMT). Click here to listen in: http://www.xanuradio.com/listennow.php
RE: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
Let's put it this way, you're not causing the problem, Dale. Others may want to check their own sh`t out, however. fh - Was I namecalling? I can't remember. Apologies if any of my messages had more noise than signal.
(313) (toronto) nuit avant - sat. sept. 23rd w/ jan jelinek, naw, akumu,ether.mann vj nokami
september 23rd - vague terrain, the music gallery, and mutek proudly present nuit avant jan jelinek - ~scape / klang naw - noise factory/ vague terrain akumu with anne bourne (cello) - spider records ether.mann - vague terrain vj / nokami - http://www.nokami.com artist bios at http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/events.html $15 advance / $20 @ door tickets available at penguin music, rotate this, soundscapes 9 pm @ the drake underground 1150 queen w. / toronto Jan Jelinek is one of the most innovative producers working within Electronic music today. Over the last several years he has produced four critically acclaimed albums which mine a variety of old soul, jazz, and krautrock records as sample sources (on ~scape), a large body of dancefloor work under the alias farben (on klang), and began fruitful collaborations with a variety of artists (triosk, andrew pekler, andy vaz, etc.). His set this year at Mutek was one of the highlights of the festival and the performance was described by Philip Sherburne as ...a cosmic destroyer, turning drones and Krauty motorism into some kind of four-dimensional supernova that I'll probably never find words to describe, so please just take my word for it and go see him as soon as humanly possible. Nuit avant is the electronic music showcase for the music gallery's x avant festival, a celebration of diversity in contemporary avant garde music. For complete information on the x avant festival please see http://www.musicgallery.org You can view the flyer online at http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/images/nuitavant.jpg ***Please note that the Drake Underground has a limited capacity. We recommend the purchase of advance tickets to ensure entry as we expect this show to sell out.
