Re: [313] UR on Kiss FM

2002-03-13 Thread Dave Clark
> > From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Does
> > anyone's local station have anything vaguely techy on, regularly?

Yep. Perth community radio station RTRFM broadcasts a lot of
underground dance music. They stream it as well, point your browser to
http://www.rtrfm.com.au
and check it out.

The shows (+8 GMT):
* Auditory Spiral: Friday nights, 11pm to 1am Saturday. Deep techno,
electro, heavily detroit influenced. The host (Seamus) has been a
listmember at more than one point.

* Looney Choons: Saturday Morning, 1am to 6am. Techno, electro. I play
on this show now and then as one of the regular guests.

These are the prime techno shows. There are lots of other shows:
* Full Frequency: Every weekday (mon to fri) from 3pm to 5pm. Monday is
house music, Tuesday is hiphop, Wednesday is different flavoured
House/NuJazz, Thursday is house and hiphop, and friday is
miscellaneous.

* Saturday Night Underground: Sat. Night from 9pm to 12pm. Going for
about 8 years now, run by Ben Stinga. Highly regarded, very
experimental nowadays. If you like reggae/dancehall/etc, tune in three
hours before that for Jamdown Version, a show which is also highly
regarded around the world. The guy who presents the reggae show
(General Justice) has been in the biz for a very long time.

* Ambient Zone: Sunday night from 11pm to 1am. All sorts of mellow
music.

So you can see that there's a lot of good radio support here. I think
radio is really important for helping good music be heard, and getting
people interested in new music. RTRFM services many different styles of
music and does a great job at it. 

-Dave

--- David Gillies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah. Every Saturday night, Sydney's 2SER has Dark Energy, from
> 00:00-02:00hrs. Patrick HAF, James Bond & Colour! YEAH! It's also
> streamed.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [313] UR on Kiss FM
> 
> 
> > Take note UK members, 'Kiss FM In Not Naff Shock' - that was then.
> Now
> Colin
> > Dale's gone to Groovetech, all underground techno on Kiss must be
> filtered
> > through Mr C on Saturday ... if it can get past the tech-house that
> is.


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Re: [313] Fade In Techno

2002-02-28 Thread Dave Clark
Not to beat a dead horse...

--- robin pinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi wibo,
> 
> i am with you all the way on this. tracks that fade in are impossible
> to
> mix in correctly, unless you want to ruin the natural flow and
> structure
> of your mix.
> 
> drexciya (and related projects) do this a lot too and i've never
> understood it.

What about tracks that aren't at 130bpm? They must ruin your mix too
huh? And tracks that don't have four solid kicks must be fucked too.
Impossible to mix! What are these 'artists' thinking? 

Sheesh, give me a break. There's nothing difficult about mixing tracks
with fade-ins. Personally I find most Mills' records the easiest to
mix. Try going to some of those glitchy German (Villalobos, Isolee) or
West Coast (Twerk, Safety Scissors) guys and mixing those, when you
come back to techno things suddenly seem a -lot- easier.

-Dave





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[313] Boards of Canada

2002-02-26 Thread Dave Clark
Well, I picked this up last friday. My thoughts? It's worth buying, if
you have liked any BoC (not Bunch of C*nts!) before, or if you like
strange and exciting music. The whole album is very strange, and very
beautiful, and not totally grounded in reality. It's a bit like being
asleep, or under the influence of lsd, or being underwater. Maybe all
of the above. Anyway, I like it. There are longer songs, which are more
like songs, with slow triphop style beats, eerie strings, and snippets
of samples and stuff. In between are short (1-2 minutes) interludes of
pure strangeness, weird noises, ominous pads which you could compare to
Atlantis or something.

It's just that if you listened to it in the store, and passed up on it
because it didn't grab you, you may be missing out on this year's
weird, eccentric, intensely beautiful albums. If you do buy it, get it
on vinyl so you can appreciate the massive triple-gatefold with
eye-twisting graphics.

-Dave

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Re: [313] chris gray / deep4life; brett dancer

2002-02-18 Thread Dave Clark
And the mysterious DFA appears at times ...

-Dave


--- logic7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just as a side note, Chris, Darand, and Abe all hang out in #313 on
> Efnet
> (IRC). Stop by and have a chat with us sometime.
> 

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RE: [313] chris gray / deep4life; brett dancer

2002-02-18 Thread Dave Clark
> 
> listening to chris's emotional distortion LP this morning,
> wondering what has he been up to, and deep4life, have there been any
> exceptional releases i should look out for?

Yeah, a couple. :)

Actually all of the deep4life's have been really good, I think that
they're up to number 10 or so now. There have been EPs and mini-LPs
from Chris Gray, Ricardo Dias, Sweet Abraham, Darand Land and a couple
of others. All are very good, most are quite original. The best chris
gray release IMO would have to be the moonchildren EP, it's one of the
first few and it is in the same league as 'emotional distortion'. There
has also been a CD compilation called 'the deeper side of the
internet', which featured songs from a lot of obscure artists known to
chris through the internet. Very nice.

> also brett dancer, was really interesting to read about his hookup

> are there other amazing songs like cosmic vibes in his back catalog?

Yep - check out Trackmode records. That's Brett's label, as you know
the vinyl of 'emotional distortion' was released on Trackmode a while
back. Some essential Brett Dancer would have to be the Melodic
Communications EP (I think that's what it's called). It's hot.

-Dave




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[313] about the members

2002-02-01 Thread Dave Clark
I dunno, I found all these bios very interesting. Almost like putting
names to faces but more informative. I for one was stunned that diana
p. is only 24 - she has a sharper tongue than oscar wilde. And I was
pleased to see that phred is a renewable energy enthusiast - I hope
there are more. I'm still waiting for bios from Kent, Otto and the
other list gurus. 

Anyway:

Name: Dave Clark
Age: 24
Living: Perth, Western Australia (geographically opposite 313)
Occupation: Software engineer for ERG. If you catch the bus or train in
Toronto, SanFran, most of the UK, rome, berlin, singapore, and heaps of
other cities you would have seen a ticket machine built by ERG. Not
that exciting, really. :)
Production and DJ: Yes, still working on it.
Music tastes: all over and every which way. Favourite 313 would have to
be Detroit Escalator Company.

Played culture host for Perth to a few 313ers, including the infamous
Otto (TechnoTourist) and Alistair Lyon from Glasgow (GMT). I think they
preferred the excellent Asian restaurants we have here to the music
selection. I occasionally get mistaken for Dave Clarke from the UK,
which has resulted in offers of touring, remixes, and all sorts of
malarkey.

Anyway I'm realising this is way too boring to be posting to the list.
What the hell.

-Dave

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Re: [313] Charles Webster

2002-02-01 Thread Dave Clark
Maybe I should add to my sig that you spell Dave Clark and Dave Clarke
differently.

In other words, I'm not Dave Clarke.

And finally I will be playing this out tonight, down at my local.
Should be good. It mixes really well with the downbeat track on the new
Deep Night Essentials by Jeff Samuel.

-Dave

ps not the same Dave Clarke you're thinking of.

--- Michael D Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave
> - surely you're not going to be playing this out? Never mind the
> jaguar,
> next you'll be playing tech-house .
> 
> (a joke - sorry folks .)
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave Clark"
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 01:41
> Subject: Re: [313] Charles Webster
> 
> 
> > Yeah I've heard it (own it). I really like it actually, it's mostly
> > downbeat tempo, some male vocals, some female vocals. Very soulful.
> >
> > -Dave
> >


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Re: [313] Charles Webster

2002-01-31 Thread Dave Clark
Yeah I've heard it (own it). I really like it actually, it's mostly
downbeat tempo, some male vocals, some female vocals. Very soulful. 

-Dave


--- Mad'R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anybody heard his new album yet ?
> 
> what do you think ?
> 
> thxs
> 
> Mad'R
> 


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RE: [313] Don't forget the Wizard!

2002-01-30 Thread Dave Clark
> > making kids on E dance doesnt mean much to me because they would be
> dancing
> > to anything with 4/4 timing at that point.

Sounds like you need to drop some Domu or something. What happens when
you have drugged out people who will dance to anything and the dj plays
some sophisticated music, like with breakdowns and such?

-Dave

ps the answer is the dj gets water bottles thrown at him/her.

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RE: [313] agents of change

2001-11-28 Thread Dave Clark
> As far as the not being able to hear thingy...that just means the
> system was 
> crap.  If the system is bumpin' you should not only be able to dance,
> stand 
> about or holla, converse, kiss and rub against each other with very
> little 
> stress AND STILL HEAR THE MUSIC , not just beats.
> 

Sorry to drag this thread out even more but...

What about those annoying whistleblower dudes, and those guys that
holler 'whoop whoop' every now and then. They piss me off in a big way.
Anyway it's just my opinion, everyone's got their own. If people want
to talk, or do any of that stuff, that's cool but i'm there for the
music. My idea of heaven is to be in the middle of the dancefloor,
dance, and hear the music without too much distraction. That's all I'm
sayin. Anyone else can do whatever they want, if it doesn't involve
whistles. :)

I don't want to come across as some party nazi. "Hey you two. Stop
talking!"

-Dave

ps What Jeff said.





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Re: [313] agents of change

2001-11-27 Thread Dave Clark
WORD!

When Isolee came to town a few weeks ago, he came on to almost no
audience reaction at all and everyone around me was yammering away at
the top of their voices. I felt like shouting at the crowd "Everyone,
please shut up!" so I could actually hear what was happening (it was an
amazing live set). Then someone had the temerity to stand IN FRONT of
isolee on the stage and have a conversation with his girlfriend, right
in the middle of the live set. Luckily I calmed down enough to just ask
him politely to please step aside (not what I originally had in mind).

I guess it's a bit rich to expect everyone to be quiet at a club, I
mean everyone has the right to conversation, but sometimes it really
detracts from the moment when you can hear music AND a bazillion
conversations. 

-Dave

ps To those who think I am being snobbish or whatever, just think of
this: These people have flown thousands of kilometers (probably) and
gone to a lot of effort to put on a show. The promoters have forked out
a fair bit to get it all together. Each person there has paid X
dollars, presumably for some fun and hopefully (but not necessarily)
because they want to see what these guys have to offer. 

--- Mxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> perspective. I would rather see all of the energy devoted to the 
> dance/don't dance
> wars directed towards the people who insist on talking and talking
> loudly 
> during any kind of public event. When I saw Herbert down at Motor in 
> Detroit last summer I was (as usual) not happy when the crowd din
> would 
> overwhelm the music at points. I've often wondered why people want to
> pay 
> the price of admission and see how loudly they can NOT pay any
> attention to 
> the stage when this can just as easily be accomplished at a bowling
> alley 
> or corner bar with ostensibly less annoyance to others and no cover
> charge 
> for the perps.
>  
>jeff


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Re: [313] Jeff Mills "Every Dog Has His Day" CD

2001-11-23 Thread Dave Clark
Just a question, which Every Dog... are you talking about? I don't
recall any 12". There was a CD (I dunno what was on this one) and two
vinyl albums part 1 and 2, which were gold and silver respectively. 

I think rather than "lazy" they sound a little old, compared with
futuristic-sounding stuff like From the 21st. I don't mind, though,
because I think the music is excellent. 

-Dave


--- werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not to take the wind out of your sails, but I found Every Dog... vol.
> 2 (the 
> 12") to be quite a lazy production - both in intent and execution. As
> someone 
> who loved the Other Day and Metropolis I can't help feeling that
> perhaps the 
> title reveals some of the intention behind the compilation(s) -
> giving each 
> dog of a track a day to be spun. hmmm...
> 
> -- 
> 
> 'The business of the World is Trade and Death, and you must engage
> with that 
> unpleasentness, as the price of your not-at-all-assur'd Moment of 
> Purity.-Fool.' - Thomas Pynchon
> 
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Re: [313] some records.

2001-11-08 Thread Dave Clark
Check out 'The Users and the Gadgets' compilation, this is wicked. 

I had the fortune to see Marco Carola and Gaetano Parisio play live a
while back, Carola did the sonic manipulation and G. played records
alongside. Carola made this wicked dubby techno stuff, there was so
much bass my eyes were vibrating. Gaetano was pretty hard.

-Dave

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks Janos!
> 
> That site is most helpful, hell 'Parallel' is just by Bernd Maus, and
> while the 
> on/off stuff and the Gadgets Special 'Be Real' release DO sound alot
> like 
> Carola, the stuff on the Gadgets label sounds completely distinct. 
> In fact 
> there's only one release after Gadgets 9, called 'Sky' and it's full
> of melodic 
> big room techno!  Perfect.
> 
> Cheers
> todd


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RE: [313] OT Gas,Sturm...?

2001-11-07 Thread Dave Clark
Meant to send this to the list as well.

> 
> Markus Guenter has a release on Kompakt called 'Regensburg' which is
> very much in the style of Gas or Reinhard Voigt. Really really good
> ep.
> 
> Gustavo Lamas, now I haven't heard much about this guy but I do have
> an
> ep by him on Traum records, the name of which escapes me at the
> moment.
> I didn't know he was from Buenos Aires, but it just reiterates how
> international the Traum label is. Other artists on Traum include Miss
> Dinky, Process, Anton Kubikov, Phillippe Cam and a few others I
> forget
> now - but they also qualify for what the original questioner was
> asking
> for.
> 
> -Dave
> 
> 
> --- Mxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dettinger has two full lengthsOasis and Intershop. Both lovely
> -
> > and he 
> > pops up on Pop Ambient 2001 as well as Markus Guentner and Gustavo
> > Lamas 
> > (excellent stuff from Buenos Aires).
> > 
> jeff
> > 
> > 
> > At 04:21 PM 11/6/2001, Grammenos, Peter wrote:
> > 
> > >Dettinger has taken the ambience of Gas to the next level with
> > minimal beats
> > >thrown in, all the while keeping that ambient feeling... Great
> > release, I
> > >believe the title of the album is called "Intershop"
> > >
> > >-Pete
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 6:17 PM
> > >To: Jernej Marusic; Samu Eilola
> > >Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: RE: [313] OT Gas,Sturm...?
> > >
> > >
> > >Check some of the Kompakt label comps - particularly the "Pop
> > Ambient"
> > >series (is there more than one of those?)
> > >  jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >hullo.
> > > >
> > > >can anyone recommend some ambient records in style of what
> > brothers Voigt
> > > >have produced under aliases Gas and Sturm on Mille Plateaux ?
> > > >
> > 
> > 
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Re: [313] techno/jazz

2001-10-25 Thread Dave Clark
What are some of Seiji's other guises? Both the Seiji records I have
(on 2000 black and bitasweet) are slamming broken-beated string-laden
funkmonsters. I admit I still don't know what nu-jazz is, exactly, but
if it's anything like this I want more.

-Dave


--- M Elliot-Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I must agree. The broken beat stuff is really where some of the
> best 
> jazz leaning sounds are coming from. Seiji (in all of his guises),


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Re: [313] re:(313)[EMAIL PROTECTED]/technology

2001-10-25 Thread Dave Clark
> dongle soundbox) for something around $500.  last i heard, they were
> having 
> trouble porting the software from BeOS to windows/mac, and that a
> large 
> part of that price was the Be, Inc. licensing fee.
> 

There will be rather large problems if they -don't- port to
windows/mac. 

1. People want to use their own laptops.
2. Be has been bought out by Palmspring who have indicated they don't
plan to do anything with BeOS or any such stuff. Be were not making
enough money to survive and sold out. It will be interesting to see
where this goes, as whatever operating system FinalScratch runs under
must have some support.

-Dave

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re: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere

2001-10-19 Thread Dave Clark
> homogenized?  here's an analogy - if everyone had the exact same
> make, model
> and color Porsche, would it still be special??
> 

Uh-oh... is Dale still on this list?  :)

"... in my Porsche Nine-two-eight"
-Dave


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RE: [313] Uwe Schmidt / Senor Coconut

2001-10-08 Thread Dave Clark

--- daweed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In his set in madrid the only person from chile was the singer, and
> he lived in NY, I guess he did have trouble to get the rest out of
>chile. 


I wonder if he hooks up with Miss Dinky from TRAUM records. As I
understand it she's from Chile now living in NY too. Where's Ricardo
Villalobos living now? He's from Chile too.

How bout those latin rhythms... :)

-Dave

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RE: [313] Uwe Schmidt / Senor Coconut

2001-10-08 Thread Dave Clark

--- daweed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In his set in madrid the only person from chile was the singer, and
> he lived in NY, I guess he did have trouble to get the rest out of
>chile. 


I wonder if he hooks up with Miss Dinky from TRAUM records. As I
understand it she's from Chile now living in NY too. Where's Ricardo
Villalobos living now? He's from Chile too.

How bout those latin rhythms... :)

-Dave

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Re: [313] micro house

2001-10-05 Thread Dave Clark
> >
> Tech-house to me is loungy and atmospheric, but yet dancable; 
> swing-skippity beat, with a little funk...sorta like "Weekend"(forgot
> 
> the artist name) but its on Neuton.

That would be Klas Lindsblad.

Can anyone explain to me the subtle difference between Neuton the Label
('Weekend' was Neuton001) and Neuton the distributer?

-Dave

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Re: [313] micro house

2001-10-05 Thread Dave Clark
> >
> Tech-house to me is loungy and atmospheric, but yet dancable; 
> swing-skippity beat, with a little funk...sorta like "Weekend"(forgot
> 
> the artist name) but its on Neuton.

That would be Klas Lindsblad.

Can anyone explain to me the subtle difference between Neuton the Label
('Weekend' was Neuton001) and Neuton the distributer?

-Dave

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RE: [313] micro house

2001-10-05 Thread Dave Clark
Steve Bug and his buddy "DJ Clay" (not sure if that's correct) came to
perth recently and played a great set of microhouse.

I love it, even if I did find the wire article to be mostly a wordy,
hulking morass of incomprehensibility. I swear, if I had to write an
article on microhouse it would just be a list of labels, artists, and
releases. 

It's a pretty broad term the way the Wire uses it anyway - the stuff
done by Thomas Brinkmann in his Soul Center guise (as opposed to his
really clicky noisy stuff like 'klik') is quite different to the sort
of stuff that luomo does. Luomo, Soul Center, Hakan Lidbo etc are
mostly soulful stripped back house, whereas your Clicks n cuts, farben,
peter f speiB, etc is much more experimental glitchy stuff.

I love it all anyway so I'm not bothered. The Kid606 track on Clicks n
Cuts 2 is absolutely the bomb.

In our scene we refer to microhouse as "Funkenhaus" which I think is a
lot better.

-Dave

ps Force Tracks is all good except for a certain Yoko Mono release -
stay away from that one!


--- Yair Etziony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it was not realsed on force tracks but on steve bug`s fine label
> -pokerflat.
>  this is a massive tune, also worth check on that label steve bug-a
> night
> like this , and the martini bros!
>  y.
>  also worth check is :SCD017 John Tejada - Timebomb (12") -7th city
> great
> stuff.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 8:16 PM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [313] micro house
> 
> 
> 
> how about the Martin Landsky EP on Force Tracks?  can't remember what
> it's
> called.  it's got a Dan Bell mix that's real glitchy (and pretty
> good), and
> it's got two other BC-type standard sounding tracks.
> 
> >From: "Gwendal Cobert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'John Osselaer'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <313@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: RE: [313] micro house
> >Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:11:52 +0200
> >
> > > bought Easy Forms
> > > on Force Tracks,
> >dunno this one, but I love everything I know on Force Tracks -
> there's this
> >mix album by Weatherall too, "Hypercity"...
> >
> > > Tech Couture by Hakan Libdo on Poker Flat
> >I was quite dissappointed by this one after reading the Wire raving
> about
> >this guy...
> >
> >What about the Clicks & Cuts comps ? don't they fit into micro-house
> ? and
> >what about Geeez'n Gosh, one of Uwe Schmidt's aliases ? best take on
> the
> >Soulcenter idea so far IMHO some tracks are incredible (most
> notably
> >"Jesus Christ saved my life")
> >Gwendal
> >
> >
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RE: [313] micro house

2001-10-05 Thread Dave Clark
Steve Bug and his buddy "DJ Clay" (not sure if that's correct) came to
perth recently and played a great set of microhouse.

I love it, even if I did find the wire article to be mostly a wordy,
hulking morass of incomprehensibility. I swear, if I had to write an
article on microhouse it would just be a list of labels, artists, and
releases. 

It's a pretty broad term the way the Wire uses it anyway - the stuff
done by Thomas Brinkmann in his Soul Center guise (as opposed to his
really clicky noisy stuff like 'klik') is quite different to the sort
of stuff that luomo does. Luomo, Soul Center, Hakan Lidbo etc are
mostly soulful stripped back house, whereas your Clicks n cuts, farben,
peter f speiB, etc is much more experimental glitchy stuff.

I love it all anyway so I'm not bothered. The Kid606 track on Clicks n
Cuts 2 is absolutely the bomb.

In our scene we refer to microhouse as "Funkenhaus" which I think is a
lot better.

-Dave

ps Force Tracks is all good except for a certain Yoko Mono release -
stay away from that one!


--- Yair Etziony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it was not realsed on force tracks but on steve bug`s fine label
> -pokerflat.
>  this is a massive tune, also worth check on that label steve bug-a
> night
> like this , and the martini bros!
>  y.
>  also worth check is :SCD017 John Tejada - Timebomb (12") -7th city
> great
> stuff.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 8:16 PM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [313] micro house
> 
> 
> 
> how about the Martin Landsky EP on Force Tracks?  can't remember what
> it's
> called.  it's got a Dan Bell mix that's real glitchy (and pretty
> good), and
> it's got two other BC-type standard sounding tracks.
> 
> >From: "Gwendal Cobert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'John Osselaer'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <313@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: RE: [313] micro house
> >Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:11:52 +0200
> >
> > > bought Easy Forms
> > > on Force Tracks,
> >dunno this one, but I love everything I know on Force Tracks -
> there's this
> >mix album by Weatherall too, "Hypercity"...
> >
> > > Tech Couture by Hakan Libdo on Poker Flat
> >I was quite dissappointed by this one after reading the Wire raving
> about
> >this guy...
> >
> >What about the Clicks & Cuts comps ? don't they fit into micro-house
> ? and
> >what about Geeez'n Gosh, one of Uwe Schmidt's aliases ? best take on
> the
> >Soulcenter idea so far IMHO some tracks are incredible (most
> notably
> >"Jesus Christ saved my life")
> >Gwendal
> >
> >
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Re: [313] new topic

2001-08-30 Thread Dave Clark
I saw sutekh and safetyscissors play a live pa here a while ago. They
were the bomb!

Laurent Garnier plays a mean live set. A bit more song-oriented.

-Dave

ps I'm not sure if I make your list of 313'ers but since I've been on
here for 3 years, I thought I'd give it a go!


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> Please any and all who would like to comment in your opinion put
> together 
> your top 10 best live pa group or artist .The artist must be detroit
> techno 
> artist.
> 
> Thanks for your Time
> 
> I really want to hear from Dan Sicko, Laura Gabor ,BMG,Sean
> Deason,and all 
> other 313 ers who really care and have insight.
> 
> 
> Peace Thanks again for your time
> 
> My last two cents a few years ago I heard about a possible model 500
> tour 
> starting up that would have been cool who else besides Juan Atkins
> was 
> involved in that. I wish ...
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Re: [313] The Master of Minimalism on thursday

2001-07-26 Thread Dave Clark
I was amazed to turn my email on this morning and (after wading through
a few emails about M***) read about some musicians who i love but have
never been mentioned on 313. Dronesters Windy and Carl, Terry Riley,
Harold Budd. Now someone just needs to mention Brian Eno and my day
will be complete.

-Dave

ps wish I was there.

--- Michael Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Windy and Carl will also be on this bill. According to Windy this
> will
> actually take place in the DFT. It will really be nice to see two
> acts
> mellow acts in such a great venue.
> 
> I saw a Hans Roedelius playing piano last fall at the DIA, it was a
> lovely
> concert. He was playing these hypnotic minimal piano pieces, very
> much in
> the vein of early 80's Harold Budd. It was dry, but very beautiful
> music all
> the same. I second Jayson's recommendation, if there is a quality act
> coming
> through the DIA it is very much worth your effort to go see them.
> 
> What kind of material is Terry Riley touring these days?
> 
> take care,
> mt
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:17 PM
> Subject: [313] The Master of Minimalism on thursday
> 
> 
> > Who's going to See terry at the DIA Thursday?  you should.  He's
> essentially
> > one of the inventers of TRUE post modern minimilast music.  History
> lesson.
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Re: [313] fanboy track ID

2001-07-11 Thread Dave Clark
That's arguable. Voiteck or TD5 is an excellent techno producer - he
played in Detroit at one stage. From what I heard it was rockin. Also
Tim Jackiw is pretty sweet. I haven't heard any Souther Outpost yet but
I'm sure it's good. And there are plenty of unknowns. Not to dismiss
HMC - he's got some good stuff. I caught a DJ set from him last year
when he toured with Voiteck - it was pretty good (pretty banging too).

While we're on the topic, didn't Claude Young live in Adelaide for some
years? When he played here last he had a reunion of sorts mid-set with
(Aussie) Groove Terminator.

-Dave


--- Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> DJ HMC is Australia's finest export when it comes to House/Techno. I
> can't
> name any tracks in particular but he's a producer of some renown.
> Always
> lays down really deep and funky grooves.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: selekta.com East Coast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:13 AM
> Subject: RE: [313] fanboy track ID
> 
> 
> > >
> > >There's also an article on Adelaide, Australia-based
> > lable "Dirty House
> > >Records". They describe their sound as Derrick Carter and Jeff
> > Mills getting
> > >into a fight and then deciding to just get along (or something
> > along those
> > >lines).  Any thoughts?
> > >
> >
> > that alone made me want to check it out. interesting.
> >
> > to semi change the subject. i find it very aggrivating when an
> > artist is talked up by saying they sound similar to another
> > artist. i never know who to believe until i hear it myself.
> >
> > i can only believe someone can be proud of their music if they
> > feel if it wasn't made by them, wouldn't be made at all.
> >
> > even if it takes them a few tries..they know when the achieve
> > that.
> >
> > -michelle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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RE: [313] Lawrence Burden

2001-07-06 Thread Dave Clark
As it happens the link is actually:

http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/library/lburden.shtml

Good interview.

-Dave


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> 
> 
> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> > Van: Gary Girard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me more about Lawrence Burden? I'm going to 
> > hear him tommorow
> > but have never heard of him.
> 
> Wow, well i think you know him, he is one of the Burden brothers who
> are
> running 430 West & Direct Beat. He makes music together with his
> brothers
> under the name of Octave One and Random Noise Generation. 
> 
> 313 listmember John Osselaer did a great interview with him for the
> UK mag
> overload, check it:
> 
> http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/ol2k/library/lburden.htm
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Re: [313] Trackmode VS. Sound Signature

2001-05-31 Thread Dave Clark
So let me get this straight - on the same night, y'all had the choice
of this awesome house lineup (makes me melt) or the relentless brain
restructuring of Jak?

That would be one of the hardest decisions I would ever make. 
You are all blessed!

-Dave

ps props to Carl

--- Giles Dickerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I died and was reborn all in one night.
> 
> Larry Heard
> Kenny Dixon Jr.
> Brett Dancer
> Theo Parrish
> Rick Wilhite
> 
> I was so soaked with sweat
> when I got back to the hotel
> I had to iron out my money
> just to dry it off.
> 
> PS. new whites on FP on their way too.
> 
> // giles
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Re: [313] this weekend

2001-05-24 Thread Dave Clark

--- Geoffrey Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hey all,
>a couple a things,
<...>
> 2nd, i've been burning cds, many cds (well, 33 to be precise) of my
> music.  kind of a 'best of' (imo) of my work over the last ~3 years. 


Holy crap, you've produced 33 cd's worth of music in three years?!
I've spent the last 6 months on one track!

-Dave

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Re: [313] things that have been knocking my eardrums to the floor

2001-04-27 Thread Dave Clark
> In the same vein: having missed the Balihu releases when they first
> came
> out, I picked up pretty much the entire back catalogue when they were
> repressed about a month ago (?) and haven't stopped listening to them
> since. Danny Wang is a genius.

Truly, and thanks to your tipoff I will now go and complete my Balihu
collection. "Let's go, let's go to mars!"


> 
> Tim Jackiw - 'Science of Sound' (Offworld). 
> One of those records that makes you wonder whether there is any
> justice
> in the music industry at all. Because of bad distributors and record
> shops, this record went virtually unnoticed when it was released in
> '97.
> A criminal shame, because it's a stunningly beautiful record, an
> absolute gem that deserves to be rated alongside 'Kao-Tic Harmony',
> 'Icon', 'At Les' and 'Galaxy 2 Galaxy'. I'm not going to stop pushing
> this record until it is.

Ok, now you've got me all excited. Does this record have the tracks
'Archers' and 'Waves' on it? Because I heard this back in 97, went
round to all the record stores in my city, and nobody had even heard of
it! Please, fill us in!



> Duplex - 'Autosave' (Ground Zero)
> Yes, I know it's bad form to list releases on your own label in a top
> 10, especially when it's the same week that it's being released, but


Alright alright I'll check it out!

And now for my selection:

"Art is a division of Pain" by Anthony Rother, as PSI Performer.
On Kanzleramt, this is dark, disturbing, and very very good. I liked
Simulationszeitalter, but this just takes it to a whole new level, with
interesting production and much more varied sounds.


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Re: [313] record shops worldwide..

2001-04-09 Thread Dave Clark
> 
> --- janos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > I'm putting together a list of worldwide record
> > hops.
> > There was some a few days ago, but i need more.
> > 
> > Tell me about good record shops in your city and
> > others that you know...
> 

For the obscure traveller, in Perth, West Oz.:

Complex Records
142 William St Perth

Proprietor by the name of Ben Stinga, top bloke, excellent store. All
new stuff, everything from Schranz to Click to Neuhaus (or Funkenhaus
as I like to call it) to deep Chi-style haus to Detroit house, to
Detroit techno to Latino influences.

Everything!
-Dave



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Fwd: failure notice

2001-03-31 Thread Dave Clark
Can someone please update the 313 list url to have a working email for Matt 
McQueen?

http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/313/

Also anyone with his actual email address, if they would be so kind as to 
drop me

an email.

Thanks!
-Dave



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Re: [313] i have to dj and i'm scared.

2001-03-29 Thread Dave Clark
Dear List,

Don't be so quick to slam someone for asking a question. It leads to
people not asking questions, which leads to a 313 mailing list with 5
messages a day, 4 of which concern M*by and 1 from spam meisters about
Juan.

Anyway I thought it was a good question. I think that with a careful
touch, you could blend our music well and maybe provide some real
emotion to offset the blandness of hands-in-the-air trance. My first
track would be the original Knights of the Jaguar. Then I would check
out:
-Red Planet (Stardancer, Ultra Violet Images, Sex in Zero Gravity, etc
etc etc)
-Derrick
-Stacey

Maybe drop 'Good Life' at the appropriate moment and watch the crowd go
off. 

I'm thinking lots of strings, warmth, emotion.

yeah.
-Dave



--- Simon Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i need some suggestions for good traks to buy
> as i have to do a tagteam djing thing with a
> guy heavily into paul van dyk style trance
> anthems.
> bear in mind i haven't bought any new vinyl
> for about eight months, anything deemed
> essential from this time period would be great.
> maybe someone who works in a shop (say, Record Time)
> could advise me on all the new releases coming
> out of detroit and the u.s. as i wouldn't want
> to ignore those...:)
> 
> and how the hell do you blend hands-in-the-air trance
> with deepest detroit?
> any suggestions please.
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The Isolee Effect ... Was: Why Can't Synth Pop Adapt?

2001-03-26 Thread Dave Clark
> 
> I've spent the whole afternoon listening to synth pop, and then I
> just went back to the site where I listened to the Dave Gahan
> interview from February. I then listened to the mp3 files again. I   
> was wrong. It must have been the Isolee effect. I often don't like   
> some of my favorite music the first time I hear it.

The first time I listened to the Isolee album "Rest", I thought it was
boring and annoying. The next four or so times, I thought it was
average. Then I liked it. Then after about 30 listens or more I loved
it. I still love it. It's a great, quirky, intricate album.

What's up with that?
-Dave



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Re: [313] The spam must never stop flowing

2001-03-24 Thread Dave Clark

At 09:08  22/03/01 +, you wrote:

is Juan really that bad a DJ?  i have his MasterMix on WaxTrax and the 
mixing is shady and dodgy at times...  but i read the allmusic.com review 
of it and i got the impression from there that he's not bad live.  i've 
never seen him before so i can't comment.


I saw him play live before mills this time last year. Let's just say that 
if mills' mixing skills were by far the better of the two, then Juan's 
selection was by far the more adventurous. Some people rate the two skills 
differently and it's up to you.


-Dave


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Question for the day

2001-03-15 Thread Dave Clark
When Jeff Mills comes to Perth next month, what do you suppose the odds
are that he plays anything from Every Dog has it's day Pts 1 or 2?

As a dj, the man is amazing, but I'm wondering if it will be the same
rabbit and the same hat.

-Dave

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Re: [313] Karizma

2001-03-15 Thread Dave Clark

> >> 2. Can anyone else point me in the direction of some equally
> >> strong vocal tracks that have come out in recent years?

My faith in vocals was restored last friday when I picked up the album
'Mondo Grosso' by Shinichi Osawa - this is a -great- record. Variety of
styles from your melodic piano vocals, to broken beated r/b style
vocals, to George Benson and latino salsa style funky tracks. Can't
recommend it enough! I would say this album rates with Nuyorican Soul
for variety and quality.

-Dave

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Re: [313] Karizma

2001-03-15 Thread Dave Clark

> >> 2. Can anyone else point me in the direction of some equally
> >> strong vocal tracks that have come out in recent years?

My faith in vocals was restored last friday when I picked up the album
'Mondo Grosso' by Shinichi Osawa - this is a -great- record. Variety of
styles from your melodic piano vocals, to broken beated r/b style
vocals, to George Benson and latino salsa style funky tracks. Can't
recommend it enough! I would say this album rates with Nuyorican Soul
for variety and quality.

-Dave

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Re: [313] tune id

2001-03-14 Thread Dave Clark
As previously stated, this is definitely Kevin Yost. I picked it up on
the compilation "One Starry Night" on Distance records. I guess it
basically compiles his i! records releases, as I already had a couple
of the tracks on there. This may be easier to find than the specific i!
release than "Dreams of You" was on, plus you get a bucketload of other
great Kevin Yost records. 

That Farina mix is *excellent* btw - I had it on tape but unfortunately
it got melted in the hot western australia sun. I saw Mark mix about 3
or 4 years ago and he is one of the smoothest house mixers I've seen.

-Dave

ps the "Starry Night" album is recognisable by Kevin's huge mug on the
cover, complete with pipe.

--- alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> its on a mark farina mix i have
> 
> has moody strings and a male vocal
> 'i dreamed of you'
> 'i dreamed of you'
> 'i dreamed of you'
> 
> etc
> 
> any ideas?
> ab
> 'But in the process they've been the true  renegades.And the true
> rebel
> always walks alone anyway'
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RE: [313] Tell me about Peacefrog

2001-03-02 Thread Dave Clark

--- Charlie BINS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PeaceFrog, in the beginning was jus bangin' n nothing else. 

What about "Memory and Forgetting" by Wamdue. There's one Peacefrog
record I hope beyond my wildest dreams gets a repress. I know two
people in the world with this record, one of them is Mike Grant (as I
found out last Saturday). 

Peacefrog is a great label, and their back catalogue is to die for.

-Dave

> 
> 
> >= Original Message From "Jonny McIntosh"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
> >Yeah, Peacefrog have gone all cack with that Moodymann, Theo
> Parrish,
> >Detroit Escalator Co., Charles Webster, Ron Trent, David Alvarado,
> Ian
> >O'Brien etc. rubbish... can't they get someone good in? :)
> >
> >I always thought Pete The Lodger was actually Luke Slater, as well.
> Despite
> >the obvious evidence of it being Pete the owner, seeing as the first
> release
> >is by the Lodger fella. But then again, maybe I'm not that bright.
> >
> >Jonny.
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Re: [313] Gemini CDJ Package For Sale

2001-02-01 Thread Dave Clark
Is it just me or does the idea of pitching something up 15% seem a bit
ridiculous? Vocals will take on a chipmunk quality, house will become
trance, and hard banging techno will become gabber. 

Not to diss the Gemini package, it sounds like a good deal. Just
wondering if anyone else is thinking the same thing.

-Dave



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Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at MIDEM?

2001-01-30 Thread Dave Clark

--- lo sens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> more important than how it is fed in. And Safety
> Scissors and Sutekh had awesome sounds spilling out.
> 

I second this. They are awesome as live acts and I cannot recommend you
see them enough. Also keep in mind that I've seen many many acts live,
these were in the top 3 (think Paperclip People, Laurent, Voitek etc)

Safety Scissors seemed to always have these awesome off-kilter beats
spilling out, hi-hats and clicks and noises flying every which way and
yet it was so damn funky. Sutekh was right on for the darkness.

-Dave

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Re: [313] Betr.: [313] jaguar sampling?

2001-01-23 Thread Dave Clark

> Nico AWTSVENTIN is an anagram of Vincent WATSON, so
> I'd say they're one and the same.

Vince Watson's music definitely has roots in detroit. The lush strings
and pads of his releases on ALOLA (UK) remind me of Derrick May. I
haven't heard the song in question, but it wouldn't surrise me if it
did sound a lot like Jaguar.

-Dave

ps Sutekh / Safety Scissors live/dj. Awesome. Anyone want a review?

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Re: [313] fingers question

2001-01-16 Thread Dave Clark

--- stuffed bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Indeed, it's about time Larry gets some recognition for his
> brilliance. This man single-handedly defined house music with a slew
> of groundbreaking material, often with the incredible Robert Owens
> adding vocals and creating more magic :-)

For newer stuff, try getting the 'Genesis' album - very high quality
music. There are two vocals on there, with Larry himself singing.
'Missing you' spawned a number of remixes including a theo parrish
remix for anyone who's interested.

Definitely worth getting.
-Dave

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Re: [313] Schatrax, Perlon, UR - questions, tips, review

2001-01-12 Thread Dave Clark
> 
> Also, Best Perlon releases?
> 
Just to stick my 2 cents in - My absolute favourite is Ricardo
Villalobos (his best release too imho) - Sense Fiction/Tomorrov
Cocktail. Deep, ominous, spacey, and with just the right amount of
squelch. Definitely 313 material, try mixing this with perfecture
(metropolis) to reveal a hidden black-and-white future. :)

-Dave

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Re: [313] Dave

2001-01-10 Thread Dave Clark

--- Mxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, what can anyone tell me about "dave"? Someone sent me a tape
> some while back with tracks titled "tropic", "papaya", "skylight" and
> "exakt". It's pretty lush stuff which moves from something you'd
> place as 313 fodder but is old-style nice whatcha used to term IDM   
> (not harsh or glitchy, though - and with a consistent deep kick  
> drum) - maybe.
> Anyway, pray tellreleases, labels, cat#s, anything. Thanks.
> 

Sounds like it could be Dave Krasserman. Dave has had a few releases,
some of which are on Raum music from Germany. Very lush deep house /
techhouse. The Raum record I have (Sightseeing I think it's called) has
DAVE written in big letters so I think that's where the tape is coming
from. 

I know lots of other 313ers will have Dave Krasserman records - anyone?

-another Dave.



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Re: [313] Corn Warning!!!

2001-01-06 Thread Dave Clark
Will this be distributed out to the world? How can I put my local
record store guru on to it?

I'm kinda excited by the idea of getting some obscure iowan techno. :)

-Dave-


--- Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Happy noo year

2000-12-30 Thread Dave Clark
Just wanted to say hello to everyone and hope y'all have a fine new
years. I for one will attempt to enjoy alton miller and also all the
local dj's I'll be checking out.

Have a good one!
-Dave-

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Re: [313] Ground Zero / TechnoTourist sightings

2000-12-14 Thread Dave Clark

> > one of the tracks I really like - is really slow
> (bpm),
> > and I can't seem to mix it in with the rest of the
> stuff.
> > You know what...
> > I'll play it tonite! Mixing is too overated. ;)
> 

You could mix it with 4 my peeps (Paperclip People).
Some tracks sound really good when you pitch them down
anyway.

To quote someone else on this list - "Sometimes it's
better to watch people sway their hips rather than
shake their booty" :)

Dave


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Re: [313] Jeff Mills- From the 21st

2000-12-13 Thread Dave Clark

--- darw_n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >The live at the liquid room Tokyo CD is one of my
> personal
> > favorites.

> which one?  There's that new one from sept 2000, 

what what what? New one? Please explain.

Thanks,
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Re: [313] Fw: Finger beats

2000-12-13 Thread Dave Clark
Just the thing for those long boring meetings. ;)


--- tom_magicfeet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heh heh heh...
> 
>
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Re: [313] boards of canada +

2000-12-13 Thread Dave Clark
Anyone check out the Kid606 album on Mille Plateaux?
(I can't remember the name offhand). It's amazing. 

Dave


--- Joseph Bonn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Acts like Kid 606 cost about 1/4 the amount of any
> of
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Re: [313] Jeff Mills- From the 21st

2000-12-12 Thread Dave Clark
This CD is mind-bogglingly good. It stacks up with
Humana, Metropolis, anything else you choose to name. 

A variety of styles, from the angular power of Solara,
B2f7, M87, to beatless ambience - Optima (Reason), to
melodic sweetnes - Twilight 20, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:45. I believe
all of the tracks are new. It's available at Amazon at
the exorbitant price of $39.49.

I cannot recommend this enough.

Dave

--- c c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would someone be able to review this CD?  
> 
> Is it all new a mixture, like "art of connecting"? 


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Re: [313] RE: R WE BEING EDITED???

2000-12-12 Thread Dave Clark
Check out the list manifesto. This list is not
moderated. 

http://www.hyperreal.org/music/lists/313/

I don't know about swearing though, some people reckon
swearing is filtered. Matt McQueen or George Smiley
would be the best people to ask about this.

Dave

--- David Bitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to ask if anyone else on this list has
> had their posts
> intentionally omitted? There are several posts I
> have sent in on various
> things and about half of them get posted. The ones
> that don't are a little
> more extremely opinionated but are in no way out of
> line. I have heard of
> this and other lists being edited and I WARN anyone
> against having their
> content edited. Would you really like somebody else
> choosing and omitting
> your information? In effect, electronically thinking
> for you?? Basically a
> "group brain" defense mechanism, run by a
> unconscious agent?
> 
> I say this as I know of various people who have been
> "removed" or banned
> from posting. While I don't know the exact nature of
> their posts I can only
> say that I can't imagine it being grounds for their
> removal from this list,
> especially considering they are some of the only
> people I know in this city
> writing some innovative, free form electronic music
> (when I say free-form I
> mean not necessarily being or attempting to be
> derivative of traditional
> "Detroit" techno. Whether or not its' being techno
> makes it derivative of
> "Detroit techno" is more a subject up the ally of
> the list members no doubt.
> I tend not to worry about such things ;)! and please
> remember the world is a
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Records... mmm

2000-12-11 Thread Dave Clark

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As for music, good stuff(313 and not) that has been
> getting play lately:
> Norken: Soulstatic remixes on Beau Monde(dude, the
> Maurice Fulton mix is
> off the chain)

Isn't Maurice on this list?

> DEC: Black Buildings

I dig this record, and "Excerpts". They are both
awesome and I cannot recommend them highly enough.


> Jeff Mills: Every Dog Has its Day v.2

This is pretty good, although perhaps a bit old
sounding. I really like the super slow one (C2) with
the voices and traffic noise ala Moodyman. Sounds like
one of the songs from 'From the 21st', I think it's
Twilight something or other. Slow, funky, minimal,
kickless. Sweet.

Also picked up a couple of Laurent Garnier records,
the Greed remixes and The man with the Red Face. The
best Greed mix was done by 313's very own Fabrice Lig
-funky detroit chords. Check it out.

Dave


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Jaguar Video

2000-12-08 Thread Dave Clark
Can anyone tell me where an Australian could find the
intriguing Knights video?

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: [313] Gemini Discog

2000-12-07 Thread Dave Clark
Question for ya - 

What record did the collaboration of JT Donaldson and
Spencer Kincey 'The Ride' come out on? I've ALWAYS
loved this track, never known where it's from.

Dave

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Re: [313] err...

2000-12-07 Thread Dave Clark

--- Steven White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What we know and what they miss is so simple: all   
> that has to happen is for people
> to hear the music with an open mind.

Word.


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Re: [313] mispress

2000-12-05 Thread Dave Clark
You'll be happy to know that the labels are back to
front on this record. Daystar rising is on the Aztlan
side, and vice versa. 

by the way, these two tracks are mixed together on the
aztec mystic mix cd. I didn't notice any voices from
above or hidden tracks. :)

Dave

--- Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently picked up Octave One's Daystar Rising 12"
> (one of my all-time favorites) and on the backside
> was UR's Atzlan. Was this how it was supposed to be
> released?
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Re: [313] suburban knight

2000-12-04 Thread Dave Clark
Damn, I second this. Excellent gig, no glowsticks,
whistles, or attitude. This was one of those events
that make it all worthwhile. Plus he seems like a
really down to earth guy which is good. Excellent
supporting dj's too, not usually the case for a lot of
internationals. I'm glad he didn't play the big gig
the next day with laurent, josh wink, ritchie, plus
some trance guys and a whole lotta other stuff. 

See him if you get the chance - it's almost worth it
just to see him get on down whilst mixing. ;)

Dave


--- benny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> saw his set last nite in perth, was absolutely blown
> away- starting a set
> with 'blue monday' is something youd think
> would be cool but never done in a tec/house nite,
> and i think the set just
> went up an up from there,
> 
> i loved his expression whilst mixing, i think it
> just gave the nite
> something special - he was infectuos :)!
> 
> anyway, just thought id post that up, quite possibly
> the best set ive heard
> this year- up amongst surgeon's, mills and mike
> bishop's code breaker set :)
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Re: [313] Kraftwerk Expo 2000 Mixes...

2000-11-30 Thread Dave Clark
Gerald Mitchell is not Wildplanet, he's from the US
and WP is from Sweden. Wildplanet is Simon Hartley I
think.

My favourite Gerald M. is M3 on Metroplex - Celestial
Highways. Came out around the same time as the
original Jaguar, stringy soulful d-techno.

Dave


--- scott mcgill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Somebody said that the Andrew Holland Infiltrator
> mix was hard work or
> sumtin.
> 
> I thought that this was a very approachable
> reworking myself.
> Respect.
> 
> On UR, does anybody know of any other material by
> Chuck Gibson besides the
> Perception track on Interstellar.
> Oh and any stuff by Gerald Mitchell worth checking
> apart from the Al Green
> sampled Soul Saver.  Is he Wild Planet?
> 
> Cheers peers,
> Scott Mc.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Patrick Wacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 1:16 AM
> Subject: [313] Kraftwerk Expo 2000 Mixes...
> 
> 
> > As I said before, UR really dropped some bombs on
> this record!!! 4 quality
> > UR mixes of Kraftwerks' Expo 2000.
> >
> > It's been some time since UR have done remixes
> (apart from Banks mix of
> > Jaguar) Track Down this double pack asap!
> >
> > Peace,
> > Patrick.
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Thinking of Detroit

2000-11-28 Thread Dave Clark
Hi,

I've just been bitten by the travelling bug (it
actually happened when I was reading the freep's
coverage of the demf) and am interested in coming to
detroit around the time of next year's demf (assuming
it will happen again). I know this q. has been asked
before, but is there any info. regarding the status of
next year? I may end up coming anyway, but to know
that it's on would definitely be a kick in the
pants(to get going).

Also, any IT oriented people on the list in that area?
I might consider an extended stay with work (assuming
getting a working visa is possible). 

Thanks heaps for any help, I really would appreciate
it.
Dave

ps - The diego album on kanzleramt kicks like nobody's business.

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Underground commitee articles

2000-11-28 Thread Dave Clark
I read those articles posted by Javier yesterday, the
one by Cyclone on Women in dance, and am just reading
the James Pennington one. I really liked Cyclone's
article, but am I the only one who found it really
really hard to read? I just about burst some eyeballs
trying to make out the letters. :)
The orange background, the 7-point font... I must be
going blind.


Once again though, great article. I thought Cyclone
really covered a lot of ground and presented her
thoughts clearly. I want to read it again, is there
any chance I could get it in another format? And does
anyone else have this problem?

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: [313] t-1000, detroit djs

2000-11-25 Thread Dave Clark

--- * ani * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> as for playing out, i know a lot of detroit djs are
> avoiding it due to shady
> promoters, venues, crowds of rolling bar hoochies
> rubbing vicks on each
> other, etc

Yeah, but think of the people who, despite all this,
still want to go out and hear some good music. it's
not like that at every gig, just that usually the
people who would put on a gig for the real reasons
usually can't afford it :(

Luckily there's one of those gigs tonight for recloose
and common factor, and next week for suburban knight.
Next week - $3, small venue, local underground djs who
believe. yeah.

dave

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RE: [313] Ford and Atkins

2000-11-10 Thread Dave Clark

--- John Shipman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> to me it's
> just another example of a big corporation jumping on
> something way after the
> fact, 

Always going to happen. 

> stomping on something beautiful like a giant
> baby hewy and milking it
> for financial gain. 

Well I'm hoping that the deal in place between Atkins
and Ford is balanced, unlike episodes in the past
(motown?) I believe he'd be going into this with both
eyes open.

maybe it will expose some people
> to the music that will
> be enriched by it and go on to learning more about
> it but, for every one of
> those people there are 100 mindless sheep that could
> care less about the
> tune or anything that is good art in general and why
> waste good a art on
> sheep?

Because as you said - some people will like it and
want to know more. A conversion from a sheep to a dog
if you like :)


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Re: [313] Ford and Atkins

2000-11-09 Thread Dave Clark
When I saw that movie I thought some kicking detroit
stuff would be IDEAL. Strings of life, maybe, but
imagine something like T1000, Denham, Young, etc etc
etc.

Ass-kickin stuff.
Dave

--- Lester Kenyatta Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Take THE MATRIX for instance.  Can you imagine how
> dope it would've been
> to hear STRINGS OF LIFE for example, during the
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> Morpheus?
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Re: [313] Jeff Mills "Metropolis"

2000-11-02 Thread Dave Clark
Try a little editing.

>From this:
> >> "The probable cause, my mind being inflicted then
> >> becomes stimulated not only by the plot but also,
> >> intrigued by the method in which the producer
> >> choses to present the plot of the film to the   
> >> viewer."
> >> 

to this:

> >> "The probable cause: my mind, being inflicted,   
> >> then becomes stimulated not only by the plot but 
> >> also intrigued by the method in which the
> >> producer choses to present the plot of the film  
> >> to the viewer."
> >> 

My version:

Put cd into the cd player, press the 'Play' button,
and let people express themselves.

:)

Dave


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Re: andrew duke's in the mix

2000-11-02 Thread Dave Clark
Woohoo!

--- Andrew Duke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> good news.
> andrew duke's in the mix is making
> a return very soon to cognition.
<..>
> and the show archives (show # 567 - 603)
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Re: [313] Re: (313) heiko laux

2000-10-31 Thread Dave Clark

--- "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Liquidism was the worst Kanzleramt LP at the time
> when it was released 

> Part 1 & Part 2 have great rmxers (the
> rmx tracks are much better
> than the actual tracks (kinda like Sven Vath))
> Part 3 comes out in a couple of weeks.
> 

Nope nope nope, have to disagree here completely!

Liquidism is a great dark atmospheric album and the
original Sensefiction album is awesome.

Personally I think Heiko is a great producer. Check
out his track on the Kanzleramt '5' comp - awesome
deep powerful techno. Bassline to die for. (and of
course there's the original release as well).

Just my two cents! :)




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Neither Mills nor Jaguar

2000-10-26 Thread Dave Clark
Picked up the Detroit Escalator Co.'s Peacefrog album
this week. I was already sympathetic to it due to the
excellent appearance on the transmat time:space
compilation, but after putting the needle on side A of
the album and letting it spin for all of 15 seconds I
was hooked. Great stuff, really deep soulful mellow
stuff.

Also picked up some funky electro from 'Mr Velcro
Fastener' - you can't listen to serious music all the
time and these crazy electro beats and some guy
talking about DSP and UMB had me laughing. A lot of
people say electro is cheesy but that's the point, I
say.

Dave

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Re: [313] UR-backcatalog

2000-10-25 Thread Dave Clark
> Besides, with "every dog has its day" being
> released, should I still care for "From the 21st
> century"? I do not know what tracks from the later
> are on "every..." and / or on Axis #21 "lifelike". 
> Is there a (buyable) vinyl version of "from the
> 21st..."?

I wish! 

Anyway, none of the tracks from every dog has it's day
are on from the 21st. Oh no, wait, the last track (all
30 seconds of it) from every dog has it's day (not
listed) which is also from the humana ep (those lush
ambienty chords) is used to kick off the third track
on from the 21st. I don't have track listing for from
the 21st, due to the fact that I couldn't buy it
ANYWHERE, but I've got them both anyway.

Every dog has it's day is almost all mellow
pleasurable music - from the 21st has a combination of
styles such as the mellow lush style, through to the
angular momentum powerful tracks. There are also
beatless rhythmless ambient tracks throughout. 

Also - if you are computer sound enabled - the
plonging sound that the axis site makes when you click
on the axis symbol in the bottom left corner is a 3
minute long track (number 10) on from the 21st. Great
stuff!!!

If anyone from axis is reading this - I apologise for
my piracy but would like to point out that if I could
buy 'from the 21st' I would.

BTW - just finished the new metropolis soundtrack.
Very interesting. You can almost tell it's mills, but
it doesn't sound like other mills. Does that make
sense?


Dave



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Re: [313] what do you reccomend?

2000-10-25 Thread Dave Clark
> Fab wrote:
> > Hi list,
> > im looking to buy some mills cds, but beign the
> > very prolific artist that he is i'm not sure of  
> > what to get.
> > I'm looking for his less 4 to the floor stuff, the
> > more mellow songs. I bought waveform transmission
> > vol.1 but its kinda pointless listening to it
> > away from a dance floor IMO. So what do you guys
> > reccomend?
> 
> i've always loved X-103 "Atlantis" on Tresor (cat#
> Tresor 012).  

Damn, I'll have to check this out. Other cd's - 
you could -try- getting "from the 21st" on Sony Japan,
or maybe borrow it from someone. This is one of the
best ones IMO. Also I think "Every dog has it's day"
is on CD and this is recent. This is definitely what
you're looking for, every song on there is fairly
mellow and there are some real gems. 

I bought metropolis on CD yesterday and am about to
plug it in - brand new mills material woohoo! :)

Dave

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Re: [313] jeff mills' metropolis soundtrack

2000-10-12 Thread Dave Clark
I'm sure the music is great as it stands, but there
seems to be a lack of one basic piece of information -
where can one see the mills re-edit of metropolis with
his new soundtrack? At the movies? Mail order video?

I -need- this thing, it sounds awesome.

Ideally I'd like to own the movie w/ new soundtrack   
-and- the vinyl :)

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RE: [313] Global Underground

2000-10-11 Thread Dave Clark

--- "Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> Yothu Yindi   Treaty

Man I can't believe this song is on there. Yothu Yindi
is an Aboriginal (ie native Australian) band who came
out with Treaty back in the early 90's some time - it
was quite a hit. It is pop, no doubt, but I'm amazed
to see it used in a mix like this. Wow!

If anyone was awake for the Olympics, I think YY
played at the closing ceremony.

Dave

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Re: [313] (Yet another) Track ID

2000-09-27 Thread Dave Clark
I know the track you're talking about - I've heard it
played by a few people. The problem is, I don't know
the title of it either.

As far as these ears are concerned, all that's going
on in the track are these snares and a kickdrum. I
know it's not ritchie because although he played it,
I've heard other people play it too.

Dave

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> 
> I haven't had a chance to read a digest that is
> sitting at home on my pc so
> I may have missed a reply or two.  One person had
> suggested that it might be
> helikopter, but that wasn't it either.  It also
> wasn't rich tweaking the 909
> either, they weren't 909 snares, most likely
> sampled.  I'm gonna give away
> my middle class suburban roots here, but if by
> chance anyone has ever heard
> the notre dame HS marching band in harper woods do
> their repetitive spiel,
> then you are on the right track.  I'll start digging
> up some of the other
> suggested tracks and see what I can find out.  If
> anyone has online sets
> that have these songs, i'd be quite happy to check
> them out.
> 
> thanks again,
> 
> out
> 
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Re: [313] Fwd: Spotlight on Theo Parrish / 23-9-2000

2000-09-24 Thread Dave Clark
After reading this list, i felt the urge to play an all theo parrish set 
on this lazy sunday afternoon, which has inspired me to buy the 
other two sound signature records i don't own :)
What a legend :)

"Summertime is here" on a sunny spring day sends shivers down 
my spine.

Dave
> 
> for those still looking after a theo parrish record. .
> 
> >Theo Parrish backstock titles available!!
> >Available in limited quantities...
> >
> >DAN RYAN - ROOTS REVISITED
> >[SOUND SIGNATURE - SS 005]  Fl.23,5 US12''
> >2 tracks by Theo Parrish. Roots Revisited made us cry when we heard it for 
> >the first time. beautiful percussive track with typical sweet melodies. 
> >The other side is a remix from ''Walking Thru The Sky'' w/ guitar licks by 
> >Ron Smith making it even more funky.. TIPPP!!
> >
> >LARRY HEARD - MISSING YOU RMXS
> >[TRACKMODE - TM 021]  Fl.35 USDO12''
> >Great doublepack with new remixes from Theo Parrish / Larry Heard & 
> >Bernard Badie. Check the absolute top remix from Theo. Essential stuff!
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - EXPRESSIVE ANGELS
> >[TRACKMODE - TM 018]  Fl.20,5 US12''
> >Mr. Theo Parrish with his support for New York's Trackmode imprint. Deep 
> >Detroit grooved done up to get down! This project has tuff beats, typical 
> >melodic keys structures and that gritty underground sound Theo is known 
> >for. Hold on as he commends your soul for the love of the music!!!
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - SUMMERTIME IS HERE
> >[SOUND SIGNATURE - SS 008]  Fl.23,5 US12''
> >The record of the year 1999!! Absolute essential beautiful jazz piece that 
> >takes it to another level. this is beautiful.. TIP!! Limited one-sided. A 
> >few available.
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - MUSICAL METAPHORS
> >[SOUND SIGNATURE - SS 001]  Fl.23,5 US12''
> >Track based on a First Choice sample, reworked in maximum Theo Parrish 
> >stuff. other side includes Shadow Dancing which is in "Walking .. Sky" 
> >tradition. Plus the rough Phat JB's Edit. which is slow and muddy but has 
> >the phattest groove in there. TIP!!
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - MOONLIGHT, MUSIC & YOU
> >[SOUND SIGNATURE - SS 02]  Fl.24,5 US12''
> >The title says it all. 2 tracks on here. Very sweet latenight house tracks.
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - DUSTY CABINETS
> >[SOUND SIGNATURE - SS 04]  Fl.24,5 US12''
> >The most recent house record made. Based around a phat muddy basslines 
> >that walks through the whole track getting you crazy w/ ticking hihats and 
> >all. The flip is a slow groover w/ typical melodies and beats. TIPP.
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - OVERYOHEAD
> >[SOUND SIGNATURE - SS 006]  Fl.23,5 US12''
> >Probably the darkest stuff he did. Deep extended mood music. TIP!!
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - ESSSENTIAL SELECTIONS
> >[SOUND SIGNATURE - SS 07]  Fl.24,5 US12''
> >Very deep & sweet melodic house tracks by Theo parrish & Marsellus 
> >Pittman. TIP!!
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - BABY STEPS EP
> >[ELEVATE - ELV 001]  Fl.24,5 US12''
> >Oh yes/ Theo Parrish first record is available again. Early Bird is and 
> >intense groover based on Donald Byrd's Street lady and beats from Rufus. 
> >Lake Shore Drive is Brass Construction loopism, very phat produced plus 
> >the very sweet Walking Thru The Sky.. TIP!!
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - SOUND SIGNATURE SOUNDS
> >[SOUND SIGNATURE - SS CD 1]  Fl.47,5 USCD
> >Great label compilation. Cd contains some of his best works up till date. 
> >2 trks reworked and are a bit different than its original release. TIP!!
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - METHODS OF MOVEMENT 2000
> >[SOUND SIGNATURE - ]  Fl.42,5 US CD
> >Great new mix cd by Theo Parrish w/ a lot of old disco/soul/funk goodies, 
> >chicago and new stuff.
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - LIVE IN DETROIT 1999
> >[SOUND SIGNATURE - ]  Fl.42,5 US CD
> >Mixtape he did in 1999. Great old and new goodies.
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - THAT DAY / HOW I FEEL
> >[ARCHIVE - DOCUMENT 7]  Fl.21,5 EU12''
> >Theo Parrish joins the Archive label w/ two great deeper atmospheric trks 
> >in his typical style. Beautiful and great!! The artwork is in Retro Active 
> >tradition. TIP!!
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - PARALLEL DIMENSIONS - THE 1ST ALBUM
> >[SOUND SIGNATURE - SS 009]  Fl.39,5 US2LP
> >The first album by Theo Parrish will not disappoint. Great deep moody & 
> >sweet melodic house trks w/ that typical Theo Parrish sound. The album 
> >holds five new unreleased trks. ''Dreamers Blues'', ''Nefarious 
> >Stranger'', ''What U Cry 4'', ''Reaction To Plastic'' (Heard on his latest 
> >mixtape) & Serengeti Echoes''. Highly Recommended. TIP!!!
> >
> >THEO PARRISH - PARRALEL DIMENSIONS - THE CD
> >[SOUND SIGNATURE - SS 009CD]  Fl.45 USCD
> >The first album by Theo Parrish will not disappoint. Great deep moody & 
> >sweet melodic house trks w/ that typical Theo Parrish sound. The album 
> >holds five new unreleased trks. ''Dreamers Blues'', ''Nefarious 
> >Stranger'', ''What U Cry 4'', ''Reaction To Plastic'' (Heard on his latest 
> >mixtape) & Serengeti Echoes''.  Cd version includes extra tracks incl 
> >"Summertime Is here". Highly Recommended. TIP!!!
> >
> >THEO

RE: [313] Let's Talk Techno

2000-09-19 Thread Dave Clark
>It's been a while since I remember an intricate,
>articulate 313 debate.

Yeah! Here's hoping this goes well.

Anyway, your list had quite a few of the choices I
would put on there, along with some which I love but
wouldn't have thought to put on such a list (eg music
for airports). 

I've got a few ideas though - what about the Round 1-5
comp? I'm surprised that wasn't there. Also, I'd
consider putting on some of the house albums, like
something from Larry Heard perhaps, or Ron Trent or
Nicholson. 

Bob Marley is a definite candidate. So is Juan Atkins,
although you do mention him.

What do y'all think?

Dave

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 8:44 PM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [313] Let's Talk Techno
> 
> 
> 
> Here's something to spark some much needed
> critical analysis on this list: if you had to name
> the
> fifty best AND most important electronic CD's of
> the past 25-odd years, what would they be?
> Here are my picks. I've been working on this for a
> while; believe me, I have considered most albums
> people are going to point out are absent. However,
> I'd love to discuss why you think that record is
> important.
> And yes, I do know Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson,
> Black Dog, and some others are not on here, and I
> think
> I can defend my decisions.
> 
> --
> 
> Aphex Twin: Selected Ambient Works, Volume 2 (Warp)
> Autechre: Chiastic Slide (Warp)
> Balil: Parasight (Rising High)
> Basic Channel (BCP/EFA)
> Biosphere: Substrata (All Saints)
> Boards of Canada: Music Has the Right to Children
> (Matador/Warp/Skam)
> Brian Eno: Ambient 1 - Music For Airports (EG)
> Brian Eno & Harold Budd: Ambient 2 - The Plateaux of
> Mirrors (EG)
> B12: Electro-Soma (Warp/AI)
> B12: Prelude Part 1 (B12)
> Claude Young: DJ Kicks (Stud!o K7)
> Carl Craig: Landcruising (Blanco Y Negro)
> Derrick May: Innovator (Transmat)
> Derrick May: Mix-Up, Volume 5 (Sony Japan)
> Detroit Escalator Co.: Soundtrack [313] (Ferox)
> Dettinger: Intershop (Kompakt)
> DJ Rolando: The Aztec Mystic Mix (Underground
> Resistance)
> DJ Shadow: Endtroducing (Mo'Wax)
> Fumiya Tanaka: I Am Not a DJ (Sony Japan)
> Fumiya Tanaka: Mix-Up, Volume 4 (Sony Japan)
> Future Sound of London: Lifeforms (Astralwerks)
> Gas: Pop (Mille Plateaux)
> Giorgio Moroder: From Here to Eternity (Repertoire)
> Global Communication: 76:14 (Dedicated)
> Harold Budd w/Brian Eno: The Pearl (EG)
> I-F: Mixed Up in the Hague, Volume 1 (Panama)
> Isolee: Rest (Playhouse)
> Jeff Mills: Live at the Liquid Room, Tokyo (React)
> John Beltran: Earth & Nightfall (R&S/Distance)
> Kraftwerk: Autobahn (EMI)
> Kraftwerk: Trans-Europe Express (Capitol)
> Kruder & Dorfmeister: The K&D Sessions (Stud!o K7)
> Monolake: Interstate (ml/i)
> Moodymann: A Silent Introduction (Planet E)
> Negativland: U2 (SST)
> Paperclip People: The Secret Tapes of Dr. Eich
> (Planet E)
> Pete Namlook: Air I&II (Instinct)
> Placid Angels: The Cry (Peacefrog)
> Plug: Drum 'n' Bass For Papa (Nothing/Blue Planet)
> Reload: A Collection of Short Stories (Infonet)
> Sterac: The Secret Life of Machines (100% Pure)
> Tangerine Dream: Phaedra (Virgin)
> Tangerine Dream: Rubycon (Virgin)
> Terrence Parker: Tragedies of a Plastic Soul Junkie
> (Stud!o K7)
> Tetsu Inoue: World Receiver (Instinct)
> The KLF: Chill Out (TVT/Wax Trax)
> The Martian: LBK-6251876 (Red Planet)
> Theo Parrish: Sound Signature Sounds (Sound
> Signature)
> The Orb's Adventures Through the Ultraworld (Island)
> The Philosophy of Sound and Machine (A.R.T./Rephlex)
> Underground Resistance: Revolution For Change
> (Network)
> 
> --
> 
> This list is _far_ from finished. 
> 
> I haven't gotten these CD's yet, that will in all
> probability make
> it on and replace less potent discs:
> 
> Dettinger: Oasis
> Thomas Brinkmann: Rosa
> Moodymann: Forevernevermore
> Jedi Knights retrospective
> 
> So, of course, as good albums appear, I will update
> this, although
> new releases would have to be something else to
> break through
> with CD's of the above caliber. Also, I am not sure
> whether
> Drexciya's "The Quest" should be includedif
> anyone has a good
> argument either way, let's talk. > 
> Matt
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Re: [313] Track ID

2000-09-06 Thread Dave Clark
Apart from Pink Floyd, in the house music vein, I can
think of one track called 'Wish you were here' which
is by Chris Gray on the 'Emotional Distortion' LP. 

Kinda slopy, melancholy track for a rainy day of
loneliness :)

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Re: [313] Re: Ax-020

2000-08-11 Thread Dave Clark
Judging by the records you mentioned, it looks like
you prefer the -less- intricate and more
banging/harder records. This explains the preference
to older mills material, some of which was pretty damn
hard. I like the new Axis, it's mellow and pleasant. I
wouldn't say it's dramatically innovative though, and
(for example) the deep moments in 'From the 21st' are
somehow deeper than in Ax20. Not every record can be
the best. :)

I still love my Detroit techno but I feel the need for
the intricate sound structures that Aaron describes -
I'm still overlistening the Isolee album, the
Pub:Summer mixes are dope, and Shake's stuff is just
too damn funky.

Dave

ps Rolando in 1 week and 36 hours! woohooo!

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> I totaly agree, it is not that I do not loke the
> previously mentioned 
> releases, they are just in a different context.  I
> am a big fan of the 
> intricate sound structures of late, but they have
> started to become a little 
> to tright for my tastes.  They are becoming to
> intricate and sophisticated.  
> However, I would argue that some producers have
> begone to reintroduce the 
> elements of a "warehouse stormer" with these
> intricate sound structures 
> (Marco Carola and Adam Beyers' release on Zenit
> would be a good example).  
> It is this type of production that I start to see
> influencing Detroit (via, 
> Electric Deluxe).  I feel these producers have found
> a great midway point 
> between the intricate and storming sound.  Another
> example would be Ade 
> Fenton's Perverter release.
> 
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album time

2000-07-18 Thread Dave Clark
Finally got the Mills album "Every dog has it's day", makes me 
wonder why it seems like any album I see has been discussed a 
month or two ago on here. Is it because I'm on the other side of the 
world, or because y'all are getting whites? Same goes for the 
Random Noise Generation 'Links in the Chain' vinyl.  Anyway it's 
pretty sweet, Some nice housey stuff from mills. I was pleasantly 
surprised to hear that brief chordy interlude at the end, from 
humana (and from the 21st). Such a sweet moment :)
How available is the humana ep, anyway, as I'm starting to beleive 
it's somewhat essential.

What's the first track on the RNG record? That's from another 
record but I can't put my finger on what... it's killing me. The other 
album I grabbed was the archetype on Black Nation... I like the 
intracacy of Archetype records - even when it's hard, it' deep. 

Whatever happened to 21/22 corp anyway? after 'cron' i can't 
remember hearing from that particular label. I'm sure there's a web 
address somewhere

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Re: [313] Chicago/Detroit/France/Germany

2000-07-06 Thread Dave Clark
I love the way Cyclone's posts are always thought
provoking :)

To be honest, I'm not sure I know that much French
artists' music, at least not much that has grabbed me.
I have a couple of F-Comm records, and maybe an I-Cube
or so, but apart from that, nothing comes to mind.
What are some of the other French artists around who
are making the good stuff? I know Distance is a French
label, but a lot of their artists are from elsewhere. 

At the moment, apart from my first love of the US
musicians, I'm REALLY enjoying the German stuff coming
out lately. Anyone heard the Ricardo Villalobos on
Perlon? It's AWESOME! What about the Users and Gadgets
compilation. Check out the Corrado Izzo track on that,
sounds like deep Detroit chords. 

Sorry for waylaying this conversation. I just wanted
to express my new found love :)

Dave


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Simulationszeitalter

2000-07-04 Thread Dave Clark
Just picked up this record yesterday, it's pretty
cool! This is definitely Anthony Rother then? Nothing
like a bit of electro now and then. I was a bit
uncertain about hearing the downtempo tracks as
sometimes downtempo leaves me a bit down (the new
recloose excluded). They're actually not that slow
anyway. I know we had a thread about downtempo
recently - did anyone mention 'Summertime is here'?
This theo parrish release is an excellent downtempo
track.

Question to Lance (or anyone): who was behind the
Pub:Summer release then? Awesome song! 

hoy, back to work.
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Re: [313] Re: UR Vote

2000-06-23 Thread Dave Clark
> This happens too often when I go down to Leeds on a
> Saturday. Some of the guys in there listen to the same
> tracks again and again!! I waited for half an hour
> before a turntable was free... I spose you don't think
> about anyone else tho once you put those headphones
> on... record stores are another world...


Aww, a whole 1/2 hour? :) When I go record shopping, I spend 4 or 
5 or 6 hours listening to records - I love my music, and want to be 
sure not to miss out on anything. I've listened to tracks more than 
once many times, because so many times in the past i've missed 
out on fantastic records due to perfunctory listens. It's up to the 
store to provide more than one turntable, that's just ridiculous.

Some of the best records don't reveal themselves on the first listen -
 for me (although I'm a bit weird like that), the Isolee 'Rest' album 
sounded bad on the first 3 listens, ok on the next 8 or 10 listens, 
and now I absolutely love it.  Does anyone else ever get this?

Deepness needs waiting.
Dave

> > massive pile of vinyl, who listens to every single
> > second of all the tracks
> > and ends up buying one record. 

That is annoying, I'll admit. Some records I just flick through, when 
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Re: [313] a couple of questions

2000-05-24 Thread Dave Clark
> Fracture was one of the many labels under the As It
> Is collective back in 96-97. I think it was operated
>by Paul Mac but I'm not positive about that. However,
>Mac was responsible for the other three eps on the
>label. All the releases on the label were in the
> warm detroit-influnced sound with Outerspace
> Obsessive being my favorite.

Sounds good! I picked up a Paul Mac record recently on
Ongaku, sounds like what you describe. Warm yet
powerful techno. If you like this, check out the
polish recognition label - I picked up 01 by Jacek
Sienciewiez (spelling?). Nice.

Lotsa good music being released at the moment!

Dave

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313 list party mixes

2000-04-16 Thread Dave Clark
Yes! thanks to all who contributed to these being put up. My 
attempt at swimming to detroit from australia failed, so these are 
the next best thing.

Now, what you would all expect - a track id please. The first mix on 
there, phred and low (nice electro cuts btw) at around the 24 
minute mark. This deep and haunting cut has always eluded me. 
Who is it?? A great tune...

Thanks in advance.
Dave

np 313 list party mixes :-)

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Mills/Atkins in the boondocks of Perth

2000-04-15 Thread Dave Clark
I thought I'd post a semi-review of this gig since it is pretty freakin 
313 relevant. When is the next stop of the mills tour, and atkins as 
well? I know perth is the only place they played together.

Well let me just say that you can add me to the long line of mills 
fans. That guy actually lived up to his hype and more, something i 
never would have expected considering the hype surrounding him. 
The man is INHUMAN... i saw a video of him once and thought it 
had been sped up - it hadn't. He dj's in fast forward. Either he's a 
complete natural, or it's like those tennis or golf players that have 
played hundreds of thousands of hours of tennis since they were a 
kid and just can't help but be phenomenal. 

Atkins played first, that was interesting to watch. He kicked off with 
a few fantastic tunes like a red planet, and the old and new jaguar 
mixed together. After maybe 3 or 4 tunes he went into disco loop 
territory... for about an hour it was awful. I couldn't take it, but he 
got to a point where he kicked into some harder stuff. That was 
pretty good, quite fast tempo and the mixing got slightly more 
dynamic. "Strings of Strings of life" got heard which was pretty 
cool, plus a few other gems. Some good hard techno. 

Mills stepped up after that and played for a few hours and although 
by this time i was deleriously tired, i just couldn't drag myself 
away. I'm so glad i stayed because it was just amazing. There was 
another point at which the jaguar combo's got played, he stretched 
it out by playing all 4 different mixes including the original. It went 
for about 20 minutes with the crowd going beserk. Some deep 
humana - ish stuff got played as well which won me over 
completely - the best combination of deep and hard techno. 

If you have the means - check these guys out (not like every 
man/dog on this list hasn't already). 

Dave

PS Only Mills can play 'the bells'

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new records

2000-04-13 Thread Dave Clark
An absolute glut of high quality tunes in the store when i went 
shopping yesterday. Actually i spent more money yesterday on 
records than ever before.

A few:

Twerk album - Humantics
If you liked the Dissappointing Human on context, definitely get 
this baby. Paranoid stutterings over some fantastic bass work. 

SenseFiction - Heiko Laux - Kanzleramt
Man can this guy possibly do a record i -don't- want to buy? 
Kanzleramt is a fine label anyway. This ep has 6 songs crammed 
on there, a nice cover (looks like it was meant to be an album), and 
features your expected deep moody tech grooves from heiko with a 
bit less 4/4 kick and a bit more electro kick. 

G-Flame/Mr G - Moods n grooves
Can I be yet another person in a long line of lovers of this release. It 
kicks ass! I liked the way it's still fairly techno, but with a 
somewhat slower tempo which gives it plenty of space. Cool.

Users and Gadgets 
Excellent compilation of somewhat more abstract techy housey 
whatever.  Mostly german but i did notice an old plug research 'on 
the avenue' on there. Deep and fantastic.

Peter SpieB - Klang
Oh yeah, some more german stuff. Did i hear someone say that 
Peter SpeiB and peter ford are one and the same? Or is that just a 
figment of my imagination. Either way this is good stuff if you like 
your abstract german stuff. Ditto for the "Ibiza" tune on playhouse, 
dark and different. 

Btw who has checked out sven vath's new record? It's not trance

Dave

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Re: (313) Fw: Re: (313) JACK in da house

2000-04-08 Thread Dave Clark
On 6 Apr 00, at 22:29, Phonopsia wrote:
> I about flipped when I heard this on Cognition a ways back and
> stumbled across it at the local record shoppe the other day. Never
> thought I'd actually see it on vinyl. Wasn't it limited to 500 copies?
> I'm a happy owner regardless. Any suggestions for techno moving in
> this direction? Very melodic and full, yet somehow still minimal...

I dig it. I love the way some artists take melodic elements and 
arrange them in a techno fashoion, like they were percussion. I 
notice this for a lot of hood stuff as well, in particular duet 1. That's 
why I mentioned him. Also i could think of Question 5, a song off of 
that in particular. The great thing about these songs is you can slip 
them into a percussive techno set no problems, and break things 
up a bit - keep it interesting. 

2-bits.
Dave

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Re: (313) Fw: Re: (313) JACK in da house

2000-04-06 Thread Dave Clark
On 5 Apr 00, at 4:20, c myster wrote:
> >GINO VITTORI- Relief 2000
> >good to hear this sound resurrected
> >
>  Is it just me or does this sound a lot like what Velvet 
> would do himself, regardless, I like it, electrionic

Gino Vittori = GV = Green velvet. :-)

You're right, it does sound like him :)

> lifelike ep in the head all week (Time After Space---minimal analog
> beauty) Tejada's new one too (mosaic rhythm masters with Arian
> Leviste) I've been lookin for this sound for some time: intricate
> percussion, throbbing synths; SwedishDetroit flavor?

Definitely a nice record. Also check out a polish label's 001, Polish 
Recognition by 'jacek sienkiewicz'. A kinda hood 'percussive 
melodic' 4-tracker. Definitely worth checking if you can get the 
obscure.

Oh, picked up Red Planet 3 today as well. WHAT A BOMB!
I think i've listened to it about 15 times today. Now i know what all 
the fuss is about.

Dave


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Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-16 Thread Dave Clark
On 16 Mar 00, at 14:32, bart wolff wrote:

> >Or Dave Clarke
> 
> You mean d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.d.....dave clark :)

I'm Dave Clark. Spell his damn name with an 'e' like it's meant to 
be spelled.

Once n for all, i'm not english, and I don't own bush.

:-)
Dave

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(313) Fiebar

2000-03-16 Thread Dave Clark
Yes, my mistake. It was Leandro Gamez who did that
funky techno effort on Fiebar. The reason I thought it
was hawtin was due to the shopkeeper telling me it was
some sort of hawtin remix - any info on this? Maybe
it's a remix of a hawtin track (or maybe I'm
completely wrong and hawtin has nothin to do with it).
Either way it's pretty cool.

Dave

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RE: (313) I miss Colin Dales Abstrakt Dance

2000-03-16 Thread Dave Clark
> The Ian O'Brien track (Mad Mike Disease) is wicked,

Yeah, this track is pretty damn funky. You can find it
on the Ferox album 'Desert Scores'. I think there's
also a claude young collab on there called 'grandpa's
drawers' (as in, 'funky like your granpa's drawers'
heheh).



> as are contributions 
> from Kevin Yost, Vince Watson
Anyone check out the Vince Watson album 'Biologique'.
Excellent melodic techno/house stuff. What's the name
of the VinceW track on this comp? 


On another note, what can we expect from Mills? Or
should we expect nothing. Also, same question but Juan
Atkins instead of mills. I remember mixed reports
about Juan when he played around the US. Opinions?

Dave

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Re: (313) Pacou Tresor #138/New rekkids

2000-03-14 Thread Dave Clark
On 14 Mar 00, at 9:24, Andrew Duke wrote:

> agreed. i quite liked his "no computer involved" full length
> from last year, but this new album didn't do anything for me
> at all. andrew duke (ps the forthcoming terrence dixon is
> excellent though, as is the sender berlin 3 track remix package
> (that *is* out, btw) that alan o has been raving about :)) andrew duke

Yes! Sender berlin!

Also rockin the world is a couple of Fiebar records I bought, one 
called Versatile Virus and t'other Cubre Libre. Apparently the Cubre 
Libre is Hawtin's handywork and has a nice swing and a bit o latin 
percussion. Versatile Virus has a couple of excellent melodic 
techno tracks and some pounders. If you liked the Hardcell - Coax 
#1 you'll like this one.

Anyone check out the new detroit label Deep Chords? Deep, dubby 
and sounding like auftenhalt in 4/4. Cool. Oh, speaking of Detroit, 
on the techno tip, you all checked out the Shawn Rudiman on 7th 
City right?

The dj situation for australia is looking pretty good - mills in april, 
TP in May. When's Alan comin here?

Dave ;)

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Re: (313) Ben Sims kicks ass???

2000-03-09 Thread Dave Clark
Hello.

On 8 Mar 00, at 21:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> now. Detroit is completely finished making good techno aside from
> "Jaguar". 

???

What's with this blanket statement?

Do you really believe this?

Aren't you from Detroit, anyway?

I immensely respect your work and the work of artists from 
elsewhere than detroit, but... this comment blows my mind! Even if 
this -is- your opinion (something I really find hard to believe), a lot 
of people on this list don't think so and that's why we're all here 
right?

Dave

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Re: (313)kdj 2 track EP's SUCK!

2000-03-07 Thread Dave Clark
Just to clarify

- I haven't heard the record yet
- I'm reserving my own judgement until that time.

I would also like to point out that this record has not hit any 
shelves here at all, due to the fact that it doesn't look like it's hit 
any of the distributor's sheets. Why are so many good records only 
pressed 100 copies or so? (although most of the time Perth gets a 
decent portion of these). Is this 'underground' or just snobbery?

The other moodymann stuff on the shelves is great... 'ya blessin 
me' is pretty cool, the pandemonium record is EXCELLENT, and if 
you missed out on shades of jae, that is available. One thing 
though, the other side supposedly has 'the setup' on there - that is 
a different song! 'The setup' as plays on my original shades of 
jae/setup EP is completely different. Who knows what's going on?

Dave

On 6 Mar 00, at 10:54, Joseph Ross Lynn IV wrote:

> To note further,
> I think that maybe this release is suffering from having another kdj
> release out that is stealing the spotlight.  That's fine, but don't
> over look this track.  I remeber the same thing seemed to happen when
> Mills put out Kat Moda and then Force Universalle.  Both are great,
> but Kat Moda and the bells was the big hit, and every kid with $6 in
> his pocket picked that one up over Force Universalle.  Comments?  Is
> this just bad marketing? J.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand, I've been told that the kdj on moods /
> > > > grooves isn't actually that good (I guess when you compare it to
> > > > other moodyman stuff). I'll still hear it for myself, if mike
> > > > grant decides to repress the sucker.


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Re: (313) 2 track EP's SUCK!

2000-03-06 Thread Dave Clark
Moodymann is notorious for doing the single sided record. I'd agree 
with the rest of the crew here - I quite like the idea of an absolutely 
excellent track all by itself, plenty of pressing space for some fat 
bass. If the song is good enough, that's all that matters. Also, i like 
to think of it as a concept thing - don't clutter up a record with filler -
 just give us your best shot.

On the other hand, I've been told that the kdj on moods / grooves 
isn't actually that good (I guess when you compare it to other 
moodyman stuff). I'll still hear it for myself, if mike grant decides to 
repress the sucker. 

I'm loving all these represses of theo / kdj etc that are out... picked 
up the three chairs with kdj, theo and rick wilhite. The moodymann 
track on there - Gawdamn An absolutely killer.


On 5 Mar 00, at 15:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> << however, I get the feeling that when an artist releases an EP with
> only two tracks on it that a) they don't have any other material or
> b)they're trying to cash in! or both!
> 
> Am I right?
>  >>
> 
> Nomenclature aside, I'd rather buy a 12" w/ 2 loud, fat-ass tracks
> than a 4-song EP where only one or two of the tracks are any good.
> We've all been there (and I've probably put a few out).
> 
> a.
> 
> PS. Assuming anyone on the list actually listens to techno anymore,
> the new Sender Berlin remix EP on Tresor is a motherfucker.




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(313) hawtin in perth

2000-03-06 Thread Dave Clark
The latest stop in the hawtin tour was last night here in perth, along 
with a whole bunch of other people I'm not interested in (aheh... like 
Adam Freeland).

Man, it f*ckin rocked... absolutely no mercy from hawtin, just 
continuously funky records, mostly hard stuff, along with the 
occasional electro, german house (Brinkmann!), and 909 workout. 
The crowd loved it. Sweaty as hell in there, too. I finally heard the 
sandwiches track as well ("I know you wanna do it"). :) 

I'm glad there weren't any major hassles like riots and such stuff... 
is that common in the US What's the story?

Dave

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Re: (313) Choons

2000-02-16 Thread Dave Clark
> >and also if there are new things by Drexciya, I heard the Lp on
> >Tresor
> and thought it was
> >Bad.
> 
> I agree, I thought it was bad too.

What do other people think? I quite liked most of the stuff on there, 
particularly the first few songs. 

Metroplex's release by Gerald Mitchell, 'Celestial Highways' should 
be held in the same high regard as Knights of the Jaguar. Classic 
melodic detroit sound, both would easily make my top ten for the 
last century.

Dave

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Re: (313) john Beltran

2000-02-15 Thread Dave Clark
One third? Who else is in this fine production suite?

Question two: is the 'Revenge of the Jaguar' remixes thingo coming 
out on vinyl? If so, when? The underground masses in the south 
western quadrant clamour for it already!

Dave


On 15 Feb 00, at 9:30, Andrew Duke wrote:

> Enrico:
> Beltran is one/third of the band Indio,
> who released a full length (CD-only)
> on Transmat in late 1999. It's selftitled.
> You can hear tracks from it in various archived
> Andrew Duke's In The Mix shows
> (all have complete tracklistings; air in
> RA and for WMP) on Cognition:
> http://techno.ca/cognition
> hope this helps. andrew duke :)
> 
> enrico crivellaro wrote:
> 
> > hi there,
> > does anyone know what John Beltran is doing at the
> > moment? he's been pretty quiet recently...
> > enrico
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Re: (313) Farben live broadcast on Betalounge tonight!!!

2000-02-14 Thread Dave Clark
On 12 Feb 00, at 18:59, Lance @ Inaudible wrote:
> btw: i hope they archieve this one. because i'll
> want to listen to this one again and again...

8:30 am on a sunday morn.. no way i was gonna be up in time to 
catch this on the off chance. my question is... IS IT ARCHIVED!?

Live at the Sahara is just -such- a good song.

Dave

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