[313] Visiting DJs (was Derrick May Lost)
Derrick is become a regular UK treat this year. Prior to his playing Lost earlier this year, I dont think he had played in the UK for about 18 months I remember some time back he was at The End one night, when we opted to make the journey to Birmingham for Atomic Jam instead (my thinking was 'oh Derrick plays here fairly regular so I'll see him somewhere else soon'. It seemed like an eternity before he got to play in the UK again. The same thing is happening with Jeff - I know he had his own reasons not to play in UK, but after the dearth now he is a fairly regular feature again. I guess its hard to find that right balance between being available enough, and not overflooding the market. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] plastikman- kompakt
Richie is giving them away normally after his sets - Original Message - From: Samuel Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 05:31 Subject: [313] plastikman- kompakt hi all- i checked out hawtin's website http://m-nus.com and found on the front page that richie is releasing one or more unreleased plastikman tracks which are only available through human contact. I NEED MORE INFORMATION PLEASE. especially as to how to get them. -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] divided over pullen and hopeful for information
who knows where any stacey pullen dj sets are online (in any format -- RA, mp3, downloadable/sreaming, whatever...)?? first one is a very good site http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/dj_sets/dj_set.shtml? 2534202+2584688+2584508+6055352+3823182 Couple of sets on paxhau: http://www.paxahau.com/sounds/2001/kfebruary/02-24-01_staceypullen_motor_2.r am and im sure there are more - if i come up on them i will fire the links across - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Ben Sims
I posted on this site some time ago about the new Ben Sims mix album I've just noticed in Jockey Slut that it's release is scheduled for this week (distributed by Primate) and to co-incide, Ben is playing a 3 hours live set on Groovetech on Wednesday 3 July @ 7pm London time. Regards Mike Tyrer 020 7701 7113 07949 232 174 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Sound of Sonar
Just came across this stream which may be of interest to some: There are a load of great sets on this site: http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/smil/djsets/startdjset.sram?2534202+2584688+258 4508+2849011+7404484 the link above though is for Sound of Sonar: Bomb The Bass Lali Puna - Clear Cut Crossover - Extensive Care Anti Pop Consortium - Bubblz Ellen Alien - Erdbeermund Vitalic - La Rock 01 Slam - Positive Education (Slam Remix) S.I. Futures - Freestyle Disco Tiga Zyntherius - Sunglasses At Night Vitalic - Poney Part 1 Gold Chains - Straight From Your Radio Arthur Baker - Don't Call Me AB Funk D' Void - Diabla Vitalic - I Prefer Cocaine Lamb - What Sound Regards Mike Tyrer 020 7701 7113 07949 232 174 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Atomic Jam 7th Birthday Party
BTW: Are Technasia live, or just Siegling djing? The flyer says Technasia but its a hard one to tell, as (and I'm open to correction) I think I've seen Charles Siegling DJ'ing a few times and been billed as Technasia. I'll try to find out - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Atomic Jam 7th Birthday Party
Atomic Jam have anounced their line up for their 7th Birthday Party on 10 August in Birmingham. That Man CaveDark headlines supported by Technasia and Steve Rachmad. I regard Steve as one of the best DJs playing in Amsterdam at the moment and have heard him quite a few times at Mazzo. Regards Mike Tyrer 020 7701 7113 07949 232 174 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Sonar/John Tejada
Just noticed that @ #1 in the Groovetech Top20 is John TejadaArian Leviste's 'Its Only Music'. I thought John Tejada was one of the sets I enjoyed most at Sonar. I am not aware of having heard John play before but I'll certainly look out for him in future. The program described John as the most prestigous name in Tech House. Is that right? What I heard him play at Sonar (and i dont know trax to be able to name them) was not what i interpret as Tech-house. I believe John is a member of this board and would be interested to know what style he thougth he played. (Groovetech I noticed also describe his track as House, Techno, Tech House). Its rather lame for me to say that i also rated Richie's as one of the most enjoyable as I'm a well known RH groupie! Jeff Mills came on and played a blinder, so I wasnt really expecting Richie to better it, particularly, as of late, I've been disappointed with a lot of what Rich has played. His first 10 minutes or so were spent showing off the remixing potential of Final Scratch, but from then he really rocked, and it was definately one of the best sets I have heard from that man in the last couple of years. I was also impressed with Thomas Brinkman as Soul Centre and Fabrice Lig in his Soul Designer guise who each played on either side of John Tejada. (And to think I nearly didnt go on the Friday night . a night, where I also then got invited to another party to hear the end of a 7hr Sven Vath set, with an exuberant RH partying alongside.. which really put the icing on my visit to Sonar!). Regards Mike Tyrer 020 7701 7113 07949 232 174 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF Streams
I've seen a few posts referencing sets from this site but i have never been able to really listen to these as all i get is about 2 or three minutes of sound (if that) followed by long breaks with the Net congestion, Buffering message. Is everyone getting this or are we suffering because of distance from server??? Regards Mike Tyrer 020 7701 7113 07949 232 174 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] TechHouse (was Sonar/John Tejada)
- Original Message - From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe this is on a tangent, but what exactly would people consider to be tech-house anyway? I would be interested to know what sound Mr. Tyreer would consider to be tech-house as opposed to John Tejada's sound, for example. Ok I know I'm going to get myself into trouble here.. i listened to all 4 tracks on John Tejada's 'Its Only Music' on the groovetech site. Tracks 1, 2 4, for me, could easily have been classified as Tech-house whilst the Klute 'Lost in Detroit' mix (track 3) i would have cataloged as house rather than techno. At the moment when I hear the words 'Tech House' i immediately think of the sort of stuff I have heard Terry Francis play over recent months at Fabric in London. I opened my big mouth on another board some weeks back and said that I thought Terry Francis was really boring with his boring, boring tech-house and that's what the sound is to me. Someone came back to tell me that one of the most driving tunes in a particular set he had heard the other night was a terry francis new tune Go back 18 months ago, when the sound was new, it was interesting and it was fun to listen to, after a diet of more manic techno, but most of that original stuff is not there now. I know someone who knows the individual tracks (john Tejada) will now come on the board and tell me everything he played at Sonar was of a tech-house sound and similar to 'Its Only Music' - but thats not how I remember it. The Sound system at Sonar was superb. But I dont think that it was the sound system which made the set i heard sound so 'alive' because the 2 places in London where I've heard Tech House have been The End (probably the best sound system in London) and Fabric (which isnt too far behind either in sound quality). On one of the magazines about a year ago, there was a free CD from Terry Francis - I'll try to dig this out, and I really liked that so something has gone wrong somewhere. I think (and im thinking out loud) that you can have a downbeat techno at 120 bpm, but generally that techno sound, is at a faster pace than that. I didnt think there was too much variation in the 3 'I love Music' tracks of John's that justified 3 different genre's. I'm interested to know what people think. I'd like to see a few pointers to tracks/sets which people on this board consider to be quality tech house. I'll listen to them and come back with my 2p's worth. I'll possibly also end up agreeing, and for my part, I'll look out for some tech-house sets which i regard as typical (boring) examples of the music. I'm waiting to be educated. 4 me 'Techno' music is the sound on the sets of Mike Dearborn, Adam Beyer, who immediately spring to mind - but also the Richie Hawtin (my God) or Ben Sims sound. [I know Hawtin, Sims and Beyer all have their loopiness in common] but I also love Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson ... the list is endless. Jeff Mills features too, but i've also gone through a period of disenchantment with Jeff when he was playing the Burundi parties at Lost. I'm sorry my examples here are so London based - our good friends in US immigration, think i'm not the desirable type to set foot on hallowed soil - at least not yet ..! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?
in my opinion truely a god. marketing genius, totally innovative where does he get the energy? Happy Birthday Mr Hawtin/ - Original Message - From: Tosh Cooey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 05:41 Subject: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin? Ok, there's always a lively discussion on the merits of Hawtin. Everyone has their opinion, and everyone has their tastes. But there are some things in the world which can't be argued. If you accept that pop music is not just about the music but also about the contextual packaging of the music, then you must accept that Madonna is one of the greatest pop artists, regardless if you enjoy her music or not, she demands (literally and figuratively) respect for what she is able to accomplish. Same thing with Hawtin, in a context. http://m-nus.com/ That was control II. The context is how/why you came to love electronic music, specifically techno. If you came to this music as someone inspired by the futuristic sounds, the ideas of progress and pushing forward embedded in the music, the liberating effect of controlling the entire production and performance experience, and because you had a great time at these new kinds of parties, then it is impossible to not respect Hawtin for what he's done. In that picture you see people obviously having a good time, but it's what you don't see that separates control II from every other yawn party out there: quadrophonic sound pyrotechnics finalscratch recycle (and who knows what else) the foot pedal MIDI controller lost track of what FX unit he's using these days custom track edits (playable via FS) what am I forgetting? All of it controlled by Hawtin. Not Rich dancing around like a muppet on stage while a host of behind-the-scenes helpers run the show, no entirely controlled by Rich. Maybe you don't like him as a person, maybe he spit on your grandfather, maybe he's white, maybe he's not American, maybe you like only people with hair, and/or maybe he slept with your mom, but you have to respect what he can accomplish within the context of your reason for liking techno music. I'm not entirely sure why I write this, probably because looking at that picture and knowing about the production which went into that party, it's pretty bloody inspiring to know that this techno thing will keep pushing the envelope, technologically and artistically. Tosh -- Twelve Hundred Group http://www.1200group.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Recording Realstreams .....
Hi Guys I remember, some very long time back, that a few people on this board were asking (me) about recording realstreams and the suggestion was that it was nigh impossible, or very difficult. Wot people failed to mention was that it was also considered to be illegal. I am not 100% sure on that. For commercial distribution/gain then yes it is illegal, but for personal use I would have thought that was the same as recording something off the radio onto cassette (as you did in the old days) to listen to yourself, or recording a copy of a CD to listen to on your car tape player which I have always understood was a sort of greyly accepted OK. At the time I could not find some notes I had but they came to light last night when I was looking for something completely different. Ok - so here goes: Apart from your realstream player you need a second piece of software which is capable of recording (realjuke box will do it as will a rather simple to use piece of software i came upon RipEditBurn from BlazeAudio (www.blazeaudio.com) who offer the package as a 30 day trial - they also have some basic tutorials about 'audio' and its a very good site for novices (like myself) to take a look at). With the second piece of software set your PC sound card as your source, and hey-presto, record away. The recording will be in the form of a humongous .wav file, which can be recorded straight onto a CD for CD listening, or converted (RipEditBurn does this) to an MP3 file which will then be only about 16% of the original size of the .wav file. It works and even I have been able to do it, so there can be no excuses from anyone else good luck Regards Mike Tyrer 020 7701 7113 07949 232 174 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] 3 bits of kit i'm looking for ...
If anyone has any of the following for sale (even if you are states-side) I would appreciate you dropping me an e-mail. Roland JP 8000 Synth Quasimidi 309 Novation BassStation preferably all with manuals .. Many thanks Regards Mike Tyrer 020 7701 7113 07949 232 174 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Ben Sims site
its been taken off re: rights!! apparently this register owns it and is asking for £1500 for it?? my dutch never was that great and i thought it was saying already gone but thought i would check. On my own registrar you can see the internic page as to who owns what and the site is registered with them to Ben. He did tell me he'd had some problems with the site hosts and there are some issues over copyright but didnt elaborate. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] RE: Liquid Metal Meltdown
I love this quote and the voice which says it know the track well. Ben's site is currently down ... - Original Message - From: Chris Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 04:34 Subject: [313] RE: Liquid Metal Meltdown anyone know if thats also where the intro to ben sims detroit mix (http://www.bensims.com/ comes from??? if you're gonna call it techno, know what techno is. buy some $hit from detroit and then you'll find out Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 09:38:37 + To: 313@hyperreal.org From: rob webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Liquid Metal Meltdown (was: JEFF MILLS ON PEEL) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wibo: I guess not. That piece on the Generator 10 was from a panel discussion on a WMC event years ago, if I remember correctly. yeah, i think you might be right. is it maybe from the panel where Derrick May and Tony Wilson (Factory Records) had a minor disagreement? wasn't there also another panel (or was it the same one) where UR turned-up in balaclavas... or have i made that up? ummm. rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Blake Baxter - was PB02 TONIGHT!!!!!
In editing the title I typed: 'Blank Baxter' - was that a sort of freudian slip? - + - + - + - + I went to this on Friday night. The Rythm Factory is not quite one of London's well known venues, but its definately a place worth checking out. I pulled up outside on Friday night at 1:00am. There was a very bright bar with one or two people sitting in the front and no sound of music. I thought 'Oh God'. Neither the doormen nor the young girl at the desk knew whether Blake Baxter was playing there but looking on a flyer (which I've never seen been given out anywhere) yes his name was there - he was playing! I could by now just hear the distinctive thuds of techno and realised there was more to the place than met the eye. The club room was through to the back of the bar. First person I saw was Mark Williams of (Acorn Records) a regular face around the London clubs - there's not many DJs in London who regularly grace the clubs when they are not playing. Sadly there was only 50 odd people there - but Trevor Rockcliffe was really throwing down some great tunes. To my surprise by 2:00am there was probably 120 / 140 people in the place. Average-age around 30. I think there were probably 3 people in there under about 23. Normal Techno Boy Girl ratio of about 1:7 (thats g:b by the way!). But nearly everyone was dancing away and friendly. Predominate feature of the night were the two bouncers - head and shoulders the pair of them: each about 5'7 high and 6ft wide, constantly stalking the floor but they didnt seem too bothered about much! Blake Baxter was brilliant. Great selection of tunes and constantly keeping the vibe moving forward. But what happened? By 3:30 there was again only 50 people in the place. Blake was only to play till 4:00 he stayed on till the place closed at 5:00am. There was 3 of us left still dancing at the time and probably six others in the room. So sad and what an insult to what a great man. At no time did he give up. Constantly tweaking with his mixer, throwing in tune after tune after tune. He really worked it and never stopped, he didnt give a toss that there was only a handful left dancing - he continued to play as if to a full house. It was a pleasure to hear Blake again after so long - and shame on those Londonites who dare to call themselves Techno fans .. where the hell were they - Original Message - From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:59 Subject: [313] Fw: PB02 TONIGHT! TONIGHT! 10/05/02 THIRD EAR presents PUBLIC HEROES #02 Main Room blake baxter (tresor/ur/kms/disko b) trevor rockcliffe (mentor/bush/in-tec) ajletty (euchatech/gaialive/third ear) nick craddock (overload/third ear) Lounge expanding records benge, stendec, vs_price, vessel (live) spongeboy + tench, dancon1 (dj) rhythm factory 16-18 whitechapel rd. aldgate east tube - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [313] demf website
sorry - have one work to this - rhyms with sucks and starts with boll - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 04:07 Subject: FW: Re: [313] demf website how do *you* know the reason why he is popular is because he's white? because we take the time to think/study the world at a level that goes beyond the superficial...because we look at the world with a critical eye..because we care enough about humanity to study/learn/understand concepts of institutional priviledge etc.. i have nothing against richie..he is a great artist..he however has also benefitted greatly from racial priveledge.._that_ is what has made him more accessible and _that_ is what has made him popular and _that_ is why his picture gets overplayed -k _ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Ben Sims - New Mix CD
Had the great pleasure of hearing Ben Sims in Both Manchester and London over the weekend as part of the promotional tour for his new mix CD. (Escapism Part/One on Primal Rythms) I am very impressed by the CD and have had great difficulty ejecting it from my CD player these last few days!! Ben played alongside John Warwick in both venues. (Oliver Ho was up in Manchester with him but could not match Ben's tempo or energy). John Warwick is not a DJ I am concious of having heard before before but he has a wicked upbeat style and I would really recommend if you see his name that you go check him out. For whats it worth I know people are interested in track listings so I am listing the tunes on Bens' CD below intro / ben sims and marc 133 the deep / archetype tied @ 137 / marc 133 night / oliver ho warrior dub / steve o'sullivan dolce gabbana / samuel.l.sessions primitive streak remix / steve bicknell unwanted remix / rue east black forest / gary martin under the counter / rue east vs ben sims blackwater / octave one set up / james ruskin get down on your knees / regis scout / jeff mills alien cia agent / tbc incidents / abelde in the jungle / ben sims tribal life / hayden andre life / life nairobi remix / kirk degiorgio b3 / k.elxi shelby battle against time / jeremdam the truth / ben sims third eye / aural emote coming full circle / quiet daze the basics / ben sims where my guerilla's at / stay sounds like / paul mac galaxy / bfc this is code red remix / adam beyer love story / andrew mclauchen mighty / jeff mills tokyo rose / dj shufflemaster midnite clubs tracks 2 / surgeon birmingham remix / rue east momento en el tiempo / ben sims friends, family and lovers / oscar mulero ritual fire dance / gary martin mas suave / mas suave untitled #3 / ben sims remanipulated re-edit / ben sims Regards Mike Tyrer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] News clipping from today's paper
Sorry - i hope people dont think this too off topic - and I would agree certainly lets not (here) start any discussions on the merits of drugs - but I did feel that this was of some relevance: Its the so called dangers and distributions of E that the authorities so often use as the major excuse to persecute people who try to put parties on. - Original Message - From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] With all due respect (and I mean that) to people really interested in ecstasy, I always come back to 313 because as a list it discussed and celebrated the city and it's flavors of electronic music more than it focused on the other elements of the party scene(s). All I'm asking is that we please not turn this thread into a forum for debate on the effects of various drugs? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
heard him spin for six hours at Time Warp in Germany last year...best set i've heard for ages, the whole set was a perfect build-up I'd just like to back up what our friend Martijn says: Richie is my God, Sven as the arch-angel sits by this throne on the right hand side. There's good trance and there's bubblegum trance. My definition of good trance is that which is not a million miles removed from Techno. I'd never call Harthouse's trance bubblegum. Sometimes his sets are 'trancey' and sometimes they are as hard as nails. I dont think I have ever been disappointed with Sven. Yeah sometimes his set didn't get the usual 8 or 9 outta 10 with me. But then even Richie's had a bum mark once or twice and nearly got a detention once at the End! I had the pleasure of going to TimeWarp in Mannheim last year and was amazed. As I remember Sven came on about 5:00am and played through to the official close at 7:00am. Now Mannheim is about 30/45 minutes from Frankfurt Airport and I had a plane back to London around 2:30pm. I remember leaving TimeWarp at around midday and Sven was still playing. And he's such a cool friendly guy. He recognises my face and has often come over to me and said 'Hey how are you?' and so he obviously knows I'm English. It's never been 'Wie gehen sie?' even in the German clubs. Another brilliant set I saw of Sven's was at what was one of the final birthday parties at the Dorian Grey club also at Frankfurt airport. Now that is (was)something else. I remember walking through the deserted airport around 11.30 at night looking for the club. Coming out of there the next day (Sunday afternoon) at around 1.30pm you don't half get some strange looks - with the airport then packed to the seams with travellers.. pretty mind blowing!! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] News clipping from today's paper
Ecstasy theory 'may be flawed' Research claiming that ecstasy damages the brain is flawed and has misled politicians and the public, scientists said today. An inquiry by New Scientist magazine found that many of the findings purporting to show long or short-term damage could not be trusted because of huge variations in results. In addition, said the report, other scientific journals appeared reluctant to publish 'null' results which showed no difference in tests comparing ecstasy users with non-users. must send this to my dear ma-ma . i've been trying to tell her this 4 years Regards Mike Tyrer 020 7701 7113 07949 232 174 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF Afterparties / Adam Beyer
- Original Message - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 03:57 Subject: [313] DEMF Afterparties Can someone start putting these up on a website somewhere? I believe the techno tourist guys did it last year. Please Please ;) Depending on when the after parties are , I'll book my trip accordingly. Viktor of Tronic Treatment just sent me his after party list for this year. He's having two this year : Sunday Advent Steve Rachmad Pascal FEOS Misstress Barbara Bryan Zentz Monday Adam Beyer Marco Carola Christian Smith John Selway Punisher -Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] detroit in london
Jeff Mills is also at Sankeys Soap - a great club - in Manchester on 24 May - Original Message - From: Nicole Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael D Tyrer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 07:30 Subject: Re: [313] detroit in london sounds great, lucky for those who can travel freely through europe whenever they feel like it. i'm not so lucky. did someone say jeff mills was playing at fabric on 1 June? great, i'm out the country again :( it's not a great venue, but i guess if it's that or nothing. -Original Message- From: Michael D Tyrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: 15 April 2002 23:12 Subject: Re: [313] detroit in london Yeah - Fabric might have a great sound system - but they can never forget it was an old meat factory so the policy is pack em in like sardines. (and at £15 a head its obviously a fairly sound policy). As an aside i went to Belgium to see Claude at Fuse Club on Saturday night. (There's a great deal on Eurostar for a party ticket for £35. Go after 4pm come back on a train before 10.30am). Anyhow 2 points: Entrance to Fuse Club - and you couldnt get a more hyped club surely : 10 Euros - thats about 6 quid. So how the hell or Fabric and every other UK club charging such ridiculous prices. I went on a late train and got into the club just on midnight. Fairly reasonable hour imo to get there. Claude came on at 1:00. His set was good. Loads of the belgium kids were really impressed with his dexterity (there's a bid screen showing a camera directly over the decks and mixer). I've heard better from him. but I noticed he was gone straight after his set. Now the only other place I've heard Claude play was in London (quite a lot) when he used to live here in Hackney. He always used to hang around in the club after his set. Maybe he was there and I didnt see him. The last time we went to Fuse the same thing happened - this was to see Charles Siegling (brilliant) but he too played at 1;00. It seems to go really flat after that from 3;00 am and then they start to build it up again. I found that at 4:00am i felt like going home (problem was my return train wasnt till 9:00) I know the guest DJ is broadcast on a belgium radio station from the fuse at 1;00 so that explains the timing but wouldnt it be better if they could play them a bit later in the night. - Original Message - From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Nicole Slavin' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:54 Subject: RE: [313] detroit in london I went to see suburban knight + claude young at Fabric Calude Young was excellent, but I hated the venue - poor sound, overcrowded , filled with far too much smoke so you cant see more than a few people in front of you at the best ot times, bad atmosphere - basically *very* oppressive . Didnt hang around for suburban night as he wasnt scheduled to play until 4am *bumdeal* Marc -Original Message- From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:43 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] detroit in london i've just got back from a few weeks out the country. while i was gone suburban knight, claude young, derrick may, juan atkins and kevin saunderson ALL came to town :( curious to know how these nights were as i haven't been to a good night out in londn in ages, including lost; and of course i'd like to eat myself with envy. N - sorry if you got this thrice, having some trouble. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [313] detroit in london
Yeah - Fabric might have a great sound system - but they can never forget it was an old meat factory so the policy is pack em in like sardines. (and at £15 a head its obviously a fairly sound policy). As an aside i went to Belgium to see Claude at Fuse Club on Saturday night. (There's a great deal on Eurostar for a party ticket for £35. Go after 4pm come back on a train before 10.30am). Anyhow 2 points: Entrance to Fuse Club - and you couldnt get a more hyped club surely : 10 Euros - thats about 6 quid. So how the hell or Fabric and every other UK club charging such ridiculous prices. I went on a late train and got into the club just on midnight. Fairly reasonable hour imo to get there. Claude came on at 1:00. His set was good. Loads of the belgium kids were really impressed with his dexterity (there's a bid screen showing a camera directly over the decks and mixer). I've heard better from him. but I noticed he was gone straight after his set. Now the only other place I've heard Claude play was in London (quite a lot) when he used to live here in Hackney. He always used to hang around in the club after his set. Maybe he was there and I didnt see him. The last time we went to Fuse the same thing happened - this was to see Charles Siegling (brilliant) but he too played at 1;00. It seems to go really flat after that from 3;00 am and then they start to build it up again. I found that at 4:00am i felt like going home (problem was my return train wasnt till 9:00) I know the guest DJ is broadcast on a belgium radio station from the fuse at 1;00 so that explains the timing but wouldnt it be better if they could play them a bit later in the night. - Original Message - From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Nicole Slavin' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:54 Subject: RE: [313] detroit in london I went to see suburban knight + claude young at Fabric Calude Young was excellent, but I hated the venue - poor sound, overcrowded , filled with far too much smoke so you cant see more than a few people in front of you at the best ot times, bad atmosphere - basically *very* oppressive . Didnt hang around for suburban night as he wasnt scheduled to play until 4am *bumdeal* Marc -Original Message- From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:43 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] detroit in london i've just got back from a few weeks out the country. while i was gone suburban knight, claude young, derrick may, juan atkins and kevin saunderson ALL came to town :( curious to know how these nights were as i haven't been to a good night out in londn in ages, including lost; and of course i'd like to eat myself with envy. N - sorry if you got this thrice, having some trouble. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] detroit in london
most certainly check the place out - Gary is right it does have the best sound system in London and the coolest security going. cool might have to check it out.. what are the lineups like at the end ? Ah... now there's the rub ... at the moment words like sh1te come to mind. There was a time we lived in the End nearly every weekend. Now we hit it about once every couple of months. www.the-end.co.uk Josh Wink - now he's a topical person - plays on 11 May with a certain Fabrice Lig 18 May - Billy Nasty and Oliver Ho. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DJ No Show - (Exclusive at Turnmills this Saturday night)
what was *this* little slur all about: In the end, Mr. Craig and Mr. Saunderson arrived for their gigs (miracle of miracles! Detroit followers will know what I am talking about), with Carl spending the night -- in bed -- and Saunderson kicking it in the Shelter office. I am sure that there have been a numbers of DJs who over the years at some stage or other developed a reputation as no shows. I was never too fond of Cave Dark, whom my m8s are obsessed about, and had him in this boat when on about 3 consecutive occasions he failed to turn up. By the 3rd time, I knew something was amiss and lo and behold a little bit of research showed me that on 2 of the occasions he was never booked... the venue - well, you'll be surprised: the infamous, Turnmills, which I more or less finally gave up going to about a year ago when I got all geed up to go see the same Mr Craig - who also 'failed to show' but surprise, surprise it transpires he too was never booked. You will no doubt recollect that a certain Mr R Hawtin (apparently for the first time in his life) walked out of there some 30 minutes after arriving to start his set, because (if i remember rightly) of the lack of contracted equipment. Now should I be surprised, having shaken hands, agreed terms, that I had a regular Thursday night there to promote my own weekly night back in 96 I went away to get flyers printed and start my mail outs. I was to go back to Turnmills on the Monday afternoon to sign a contract, but before i get mr newman's call, i get a call from one of my m8s to tell me Eurobeat 2000 have just signed to go back there on Thursday nights ... and the attitude : so what we dont need u - 2 4-king true! Enjoy your weekends 313ers ... i;m off to Fuse Club Saturday night to hear, for the first time in about 5 years, Claude Young and I cant wait. Made the big mistake of going to Fabric to hear Laurent Garnier, the other week for a friends birthday ... a load of peeps I know headed to Fabric and came back raving about Claude should I be surprised? And what a lovely guy to go with it. I remember someone in their @bout the members post which was hugely popular a few months ago - saying their favourite thing about techno was claude's generosity!! I hope he dont think he's buying drinks for everyone in the Fuse club ..!! Enjoy your weekend good people - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Technasia Sets...
i have a charles siegling MP3 set here ...from i think Plus (China) 2001 courtesy of a dutch list member which is 81Mb. I just tried to Zip the file up and it came back bigger that it started. so can anyone tell me whether MP3 files can be ZIP'd and their approximate ratio - this was 1%? I dont normally use WinZip .. only to extract Remember you need to receive this file through an overnight free connection or an ASDL or work connection. On at 56k modem, it will take all week and skint you... Of course, if any member can suggest a more efficient method of my mailing this file I'd be glad to hear. 4 wot its worth, im just playing the set now for the first time myself, and i;m rocking in my chair - he's pumping along at a good 140 bpm - fairly wicked - Original Message - From: Mark S Flintoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 12:43 Subject: [313] Technasia Sets... OK, after following the link on Technasia's site you wind up here: http://www.ejay.co.uk/netradio/channels_single_techno.php?menue_name=techno% 20orbit# (you'll probably have to cut n' paste that, sorry) After that you can't directly access the set...it seems they have rotating sets by multiple residents including Technasia. If anyone can figure out if there are archives on this site let me know as the layout of this site is damned confusing. However a short clip of their live PA @ I Love Techno can be found on this page... http://www.technasia.com/technasia/events/live.html Cheers, m* - Original Message - From: Mark S Flintoft [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [313] Technasia... I remember seeing a link to one on http://www.technasia.com/technasia/welcome.html Love those guys... m* - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: RE: [313] Technasia... does anyone have a recent online technasia set i can listen to ? the future mix cd isn't really mixed as such, which is a shame. yeah i'd like to hear a proper dj mix too robin... -Original Message- From: Michael D Tyrer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Technasia... 4 wots it worth - we saw these Charles Siegling/Technasia in Belgium a few weeks back at the Fuse Club and were very impressed. We thought it was one of the better sets we had recently heard. Well, well worth booking. - Original Message - From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:44 Subject: [313] Technasia... Is anyone interested in booking these guys in North America? There are still a few open dates on their tour. If so, drop me a line. Cheers! G - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] robin... -- Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 --www.mrccs.man.ac.uk- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf and ALL AREA ACCESS PASS
From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] speaking as a an (x?) press person so you like Rocky 'n Diesel ? I find this extremely annoying and idiotic. WE didnt get much as press people last year anyways looks like you'll get even less this year .. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Technasia...
4 wots it worth - we saw these Charles Siegling/Technasia in Belgium a few weeks back at the Fuse Club and were very impressed. We thought it was one of the better sets we had recently heard. Well, well worth booking. - Original Message - From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:44 Subject: [313] Technasia... Is anyone interested in booking these guys in North America? There are still a few open dates on their tour. If so, drop me a line. Cheers! G - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up
but thats definately his picture on the schedule page at least he got a look in - Original Message - From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill Van Loo [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 05:04 Subject: Re: [313] official DEMF lineup up Available at: http://www.electronicmusicfest.com Derrick May doesn´t seem to be on the shedule.. does this have anything to do with Derrick registering the DEMF name? Man.. to bad.. I really like Derrick mixing.. you know. Cheers, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: The Future of Underground Music and the Internet
Hi Guys About 7 years ago I was trying to make a living selling mix-tapes and I was particularly conscious of the 'copyright' issue - I attended many of the PRS society meetings at this time - and to be honest I could not see it going anywhere. To me there seemed a very easy solution. And that's what's moreorless being voiced here today: a collective of labels who give a blanket permission for the catalog to be used in mix tapes, broadcast sets, etc. Sets should be streamed or MP3'd in a reasonable quality, even recordable to CD, but not best quality. If there is to be a payment involved to receive the set then people will go and get the set. Those who know me will know Im a huge Richie fan, and I couldnt wait to get my hands on DE9 when it was first released. It was through this board that I got a pointer to awebsite where I downloaded the whole CD long before its release . not the first day it was released, nor the second, but about 2 weeks in, I went into the stores and got myself a copy. I dont think the broadcasting of sets is going to kill the music ... and who at the start of this went in thinking they were going to be mega rich ... not many i think it will be the opening door to a huge upturn in new interest in dance music. just my 2.00pees worth - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Lots of Test Messages lately and people having problems getting through to the board
I had this problem for a week or so and could get nothing through... kept pushing the same message - it still aint got there eventually worked out that the problem was: (1) I had change my send mode from plain text to HTML format which the mail board will not support (2) I had resorted to some rather profane language. A pal of mine was stuck with a message and he tells me he things his misappropriation of certain english words were the cause ... talk about the tweaks and the bleaks. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 08:14 Subject: [313] TEST - ignore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] dave angel djing (was Re: [313] Dave Angel mixtape ID needed)
Dave Angel was, in about 1995 one of my favourite DJs. I heard him about 4 times around the middle to back end of last year and every time I was really disappointed - that disappointed I have avoided going to anywhere he has been playing recently, which is a pity. OK in 1995 everything was being played at plus8 and Dave excelled at this. IMO there was a lot of similarities in his and carl cox's styles - veering in the direction of a Jeff Mills. I always found his sets picked up and picked up all the way through. The sets I heard last year - and there has been mention that he and his family have had a lot of personal problems recently - were just flat and never went anywhere. I hope to one day find that old Dave Angel again. my 0.02p's worth .. - Original Message - From: henrique casanova [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:32 Subject: [313] dave angel djing (was Re: [313] Dave Angel mixtape ID needed) i'll see him djing next month up in São Paulo and want to know what sgould i aspect. will i hear something like that epic set on k7 (x- mix 4)? i hope so.. but something in my mind says that i'll hear techy-disco-funky-freaky tracks.. (correction: in this case, i wont hear it..) anyone have seen him spining latly? i just dug out this Dave Angel studio mix that somone dubbed for me years ago -in like 95 -i don't know when it came out though -probably around 93-95 i hadn't really dug it till now - probably cuz it was really really fast. however on my tape player i have a pitch adjust so when it was slowed all the way down it sounded proper! - i have no idea what tunes he was playing or what style of techno it is, but the selection is wicked. can anyone help me ID what mixtape it is it so i can possibly find a tracklisting? e-mail me privately and i can send you a clip of the intro thanks Liam _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] henrique casanova S.O.M. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Technical Question
OK - I promised alex i would try to dig out some notes I have somewhere recording from streaming audio is dead simple - just cant remember how to do it I do remember that I recorded loads of stuff using software from Blaze Audio (Rip Edit Burn) which you can get a free 30 day demo from their site: www.blazeaudio.com and this is very good. - Original Message - From: marc christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 06:53 Subject: Re: [313] Technical Question Alex- this is a more problematic (and contentious) issue than you perhaps know. Streambox ripper is a program that used to do this -- but they had legal problems exactly because it could rip mp3s from streamed audio (which goes against the intent of the streaming thing not depriving the owner of ownership). The last version that could is (i believe) 2.0.09, which is no longer available for download. What's worse (for me) is that it doesn't run on a Mac! It's a dreaded PC-only program. Good luck! -marc At 2:43 PM + 3/28/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text Right, I've been trying to get a copy of a few things that are on the net in Real Audio format burnt on to CD. Does anyone know how to do this? I only have a computer at work so it'll have to be some sort of software. Failing that, if anyone has a copy of these mixes on CD, I would gladly pay someone to burn me a copy My most wanted are as following; TEE SCOTT from deephousepage.com KENNY DIXON JNR from Groovetech DEMF archives THEO PARRISH from Groovetech DEMF archives RON HARDY from deephousepage.com (any of the ones that aren't mp3) Thanks, Alex. - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales to carry on investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] RE: (313) OT: Hawtin fonts
sorri to bore you and i dont want to start any debates cause i'm sure people are sick to the death of it, but i think Richie Hawtin is a genius full stop. I mean how to get your head around, or even manage to come up with the e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - to me that is brilliant. i work with a right bunch of straight arsed guys who were curious to know what sort of music i listened to, so i thought, how to break them in gently ... i started off with a daft punk cd - commercialish, and a sound surely they've heard before, either on an advert or radio, which the two of them liked. Then I gave them DE9: Closer to the Edit. I still can't get it back. The one guy, my boss (big-wig legal begal) used to have his little transistor radio, tuned to classical radio 3, or some Mozart or Beethoven or Classic Flute on his CD. Now he sits there, tapping out his high court submissions, nodding his head to Richie. As the irish would say pure f'ing genius (just my opinion by the way) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 04:56 Subject: Re: [313] RE: (313) OT: Hawtin fonts There was also the (?)Fender(?) starter guitar kit that took the Plastikguy and painted him green for their box. They had one sitting over at Minus for awhile. Richie Hawtin is a marketing genius ;) On 19 Mar 2002, T.J.Johnson wrote: On Tue, 19 March 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recall seeing an add in a magazine a few years back that had the sheet one art on it. The add had nothing to do with techno or music, don't recall what it was for. But you could see that they stole it from a plastikman cover: the dot on the i is in fact a little plus 8 logo... W How do you know it was stolen? TJ The future was yesterday... www.mp313.com ~~go here PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Boston [OT]
but i'm the sort of person who would call him dickweed too: i mean wot does a 2nd grader expect? Yeah i've enjoyed his rock the bed nights but i ultimately find his music is too boring, and i wonder if i hadnt necked a fistful of chemicals prior to listening to him, how much of his night i would have enjoyed - probably 5 minutes. There's often a discussion on how one broadens the techno audience: dickweed has to get some credit here: his sound is easy enough on the ear, that people who have come to rock the bed have asked and come to other clubs with me ... and thoroughly enjoying techno clubbing. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Fred Giannelli' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 07:35 Subject: RE: [313] Boston [OT] it amazes me that allegedly 'intelligent' techno haeds actually call the guy 'Dickweed' Whether you like him is irrelivant. You actually call him Dickweed like some sort of 2nd grader. On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Grammenos, Peter wrote: i'll make sure and bring my glowsticks and other colorful accessories for sacha and dickweed ;)! saturday night @ the cellar sounds cool, i'll definitely check that out... if i see you there, i'll stop over and say wasup. -pete -Original Message- From: Fred Giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:16 PM To: Grammenos, Peter; '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: Re: [313] Boston [OT] Sasha Digweed will be @ Avalon on Friday. Don't miss it !!! ; P The Kooky Scientist PS. Unfortunately Other Music has closed up in Harvard Square. Stop by our hangout on Sat. night @ http://www.unlockedgroove.com/events/appliance/ -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 PH/FX 978-741-8901 http://www.mp3.com/fredgiannelli http://www.telepathica.com **New E-addresses* [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 3/18/02 1:49 PM, Grammenos, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm coming up to Boston on fri 3/29-3/31, just wondering if any intersting live pa's or dj's are playing that weekend. Also, if anyone has any recommendations on places to stay, record/cd shops to check out, things to do. Thanks in advance! -Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Put A New Ear On
- or maybe how big is yours seeing as Maurice Joshua's been a subject for today... Lee's comments on the size of people's music collections and re-surfacing rarities made we want to mention that Some week back there was a discussion about Terrace - when I suddenly remembered: hey i've got a CD of them somewhere really enjoyed listening to them again. About a 1000CDs but shamed when I saw the size of what others have - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses
I cant totally agree because in Germany, Holland and Belgium I have seen a Techno scene that is totally thriving and full of young people - I havent been to Spain nor Ibitha (which is clealy over sold by now) Techno can be marketed to the masses, look at the number of TV commercials to which its sound provides the background muzak. Its most definately not marketed, hardly even available in the UK either; and in London, well Techno - mention that word to anyone and they'd say to ya You don;t wanna take wot mate?. It can be marketed - Original Message - From: Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Peter Leidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 06:37 Subject: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses I think a huge part of why the attempts to marklet house and techno on a large scale have failed is because there is no one singing (sure occasionally there is) but there's no one there dancing singing to make a video of, talking to the audience. Popular music has melodies that are easily remembered and have lyrics than be sung along to. I'm guessing thet's the huge appeal the house and techno are often missing. Hence the explosion of Everything but the girl. The grand reception of Bjorks dance vocals. Hip hop is as close as we've come the beats are as heavy and great but there someone there singing and talking and on an average human level, people can connect with that easily. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 -- From: Peter Leidy Sent: Friday, March 1, 2002 1:32 PM To: laura gavoor Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! First of all, this is one of the most thought-provoking threads I've read in a while (nit-picking over curse words aside)- I'm glad the opinions are being voiced and I'd like to hear more from those like Laura who have a lot of direct industry experience with these issues. firing off cannons. Recently while watching CNN, there was a news segment covering Elton John FLAMING the music industry for lowest common denominator marketing. He said that the good musicians and music were actively being passed over in favor of the rubbish msuic the industry was putting out...He Last night I saw a great PBS special that focused on this same problem of LCD marketing- but in the realm of Film-Making- its called The Monster that ate Hollywood. There are tons of interviews with industry analysts, journalists, producers and directors up on their site at: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/hollywood/ I think these issues of Pop Culture, Global Economy, LCD Marketing, etc. are common across the various realms of Arts Entertainment similar things are happening in each field right now from an economic standpoint. In terms of dance music getting serious attention- I think the problem with house and techno is that there is not a good stereotype of techno producer to market to teenage kids. I think the Major Labels like to market stereotypes of Rebellious, Subversive, Cool, and more recently pop-conscious-satiric characters that middle-class suburban teens can relate to. The problem with house and techno is that when you look for stereotypes- you have the gay club scene, the middle to lower class minorities- but without the hip-hop egos and fashion, then also the computer and synth geeks, none of which are sexy or cool to todays teenagers. But when the London Rave scene appeared- here was something more marketable- white kids sneaking out at night, taking drugs, and partying to rave music, not to mention new marketable fashion trends to go along with it. And of course, once they found something marketable, they further bastardized the music into formulated candy-coated crap, just as they did with disco 25 years ago. PS- I'm not even going to bring up the race issue- a whole other can of worms- but I agree that the race card is not over-used- it is still a serious problem with deep roots in the social and political policies that govern our country. People need to be aware of this especially as it becomes more subtle and disguised by other issues. -p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] House / techno popularity
4give me - i dont mean to be offensive but this is so anal - why does it have to be a stigma to be black or homosexual or a woman or what : its been said before there have been untold successful black gay lesbian vegan christian people who were so successful and there's no doubt there's even been 1 or 2 whites who've been stigmatized - i blame the catholic church 4 that, but then there's been one or two people who've been educated or cared for or loved and maybe you'd blame the RCs for that too. Isnt the aim to try and essentially on the whole respect and love one another and getta hear some ace propa techno music whilst your at it and we have some super stars and we should respect that. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail) 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 07:00 Subject: Re: [313] House / techno popularity Speaking of house music - is there any email lists like this one (well maybe not like this one) that discusses house music? I have yet to run into one - not talking tech-house but real house music? I'd be interested in seeing some discussions about gay black men and lesbian women in the music industry and their problems with not only being black but being homosexual as well - double stigma. Maybe someone would like to address this issue as well? MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [313] please be more careful of the words used here
- Original Message - From: Michael D Tyrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:06 Subject: Re: [313] please be more careful of the words used here This is going to be totally off topic but I send it with my white flag whoops ... did I just say a dirty word .. i didnt mean to, its just people sometimes misunderstand: i just left a princess, and she kept using the big C word, it would be a mortal sin to use it in her presence but its all part of the language and culture and perhaps the moment. I wonder in Milleniums to come what they'll ever think if they hear that man Derkie Milltin or was it DigSha who was such a wicked DJ and played killer tunes? I watch people hop and jump all emotive, when we are such a wide universal audience: I saw the same phrase in some English Newspapers the other day the story obviously picked from a wire about something in South Africa happening at the Kaffir Town of ...well, try using the K word in RSA. Its easy to take offense when no offense was intended and I dont normally see people setting out to be deliberately offensive, so often the bandwagon gets jumped on. How many times have you tried to say something and then it came out all wrong . well thats my excuse dont know why ... just wanted to say this, probably because im sometimes misunderstood. Anyhow enough I'm off to Belgium this weekend to the Fuse Club to hear Technasia/Charles Siegling (who i remember hearing at I Love Techno and maybe somewhere else, but cant say that I know their/his music) I'm excited to be going to the Fuse Club, I looking 4ward to hearing DJ Pierre whom I have a mix-tape of since 1994 and played many times. I can't 4king wait! enjoy your weekends, may your listening be rewarding, your feet keep tappin, ya legs stay strong and u last all night long Enjoy folks - Original Message - From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 06:00 Subject: Re: [313] please be more careful of the words used here Please refrain from using the N word. I find this extremely upsetting and if you're dropping it for shock value, ok, I'm shocked, and again upset. Please please keep the conversation at a level that's tolerable. There's no reason to be talking like that. I find the f word just as offensive, and yet people were blowing it off. the shock value was necessary. offensive is offensive. don't pick and choose is my point. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: The Great White blah...... Regarding Business
x-l-ent! - Original Message - From: Big Loda . Krhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:42 Subject: [313] Re: The Great White blah.. Regarding Business This entire thread has been great, but I'm really sick of businesspeople being stereotyped as greedy, white, racist, homophobic, powermongers intent on oppressing all minorities. People start businesses for one reason - to make money. There's a lot of other smaller reasons to start a business; doing something you love, being your own boss, ect. But the bottom line is that you start a business to make money. To record execs, artists are no different than toasters and blenders. They don't care if you're black, white, hispanic, asian, ect. They don't care if you're male or female. They don't care about your plight trying to make it in the world. Your sob story means nothing. They care wether you can sell records and make them money. It is not the businessman's fault that techno does not sell very well. Nor is it his duty to make it sell well. Businessmen have no obligation to any market (scene) other than to provide a wanted product/service and to provide that product/service in an ethical way. In the same way, artists have no obligation to work with businessmen or give in to the demands of businessmen. If you don't like how the game is played, start your own game. Go it alone and see how well you'll do. It's easier now than ever to become successful without utilizing the traditional systems in place. Put yourself in the businessman's shoes. If you have one million dollars to develop a product (artist) and you have two choices, one being an almost sure money-maker, and one being a real long shot, which do you choose? You go with the money-maker every time. If you don't, your business does not survive. Imagine 430-West being presented with the option of putting out a Random Noise Generation album, or an The Impaler album. Which one do you think they're gonna choose? The money-maker. Sure, The Impaler is a nice guy. He's had it rough in the music scene. Nobody has given him much of a chance. His music is great (heh, lets pretend here). But the bottom-line is you don't invest your hard earned money on something that's probably going to fail. That would just be stupid. Is the race card valid when applied to business? Sure, in some cases, but not in the broad case of record industry. They only provide what will sell. They have no obligation to do otherwise. If you're going to play the race card, you have to attack the reasons why mainstream audiences would rather buy whitebred pop than minority produced techno/house/whatever. This might include attacking minority individuals that make the rest of the race look bad (rappers with their 40s, guns, hoes, ect). Or maybe attacking Europeans that claim (and may even believe) they brought electronic music to the States. How about replacing affirmative action with actual equality? Or taking on the people that could bring forth quality schools in urban areas. I'm basically trying to show that the problem is much larger than the record industry. It's wrong to expect Virgin and Sony Records to mold the majority of people into what a handful of people think music listeners should be like. It is simply not their obligation to do so. You cannot blame record execs pushing what sells and then complain yourself that you're not making money because you refuse to produce music that sells. Anyone that makes techno can just as easily make trance if they so choose. If you choose your integrity over money that's you're choice. It's not the businessman's fault that the result of your choice does not sell. I have the mindset of an ethical businessman. I don't care who you are or what your story is. If I can make money off of you, I'll invest in you/your product/your cause/whatever. Your value to me has nothing to do with race, gender, or sexual preference. THAT'S equality, and it exists in the business world. = Krhn! - [Detroit Intelectronic Listowner ] [aim : krhn3][Visual ID - http://facelink.com/Krhn ] [Intelligent Electronic Music Discussion: ] [http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/intelectronic] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] see what cha think
damn - was that a fade in at the beginning of bugzshape ? (joke) i see someone else has also said that the first tune link dont quite work! - Original Message - From: Maxim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 09:51 Subject: [313] see what cha think Hello wonderful 313 peeps. Looking for some feedback, don't be too rude :) max www.evtacon.co.uk/sounds/Tepsia.mp3 www.evtacon.co.uk/sounds/bugzshape.mp3 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DJ sets
On the subject of DJ Sets does anyone know any web links where I might get Richie Hawtin @ I Love Techno 2000 or 2001 and Speedy J ILT2000? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Liberators
I have much respect for the Liberators: The first club night I attempted to promote was in London in early 1996. I had Dave Clark and Chris Liberator as the two guests for the night. We had about 120 paying customers turn up - that's all. When Chris came in he refused to take any money and still played his whole set. Clarky boy who was already on the decks sent his missus to speak to me and offered to play a 1-1/2hr set for £550 instead of the original 2hrs for £750. Chris also filled in his extra half-hour. Some months later when my finances had improved I came upon Chris at a squat party and offered him some dosh to make up for the let down previously. He absolutely refused to take any money. The most he would let me give him was a can of Stella. Interestingly enough - I had Tanith booked for the 3rd night and after demanding 5* hotel, chauffeured car from airport he failed to turn up and called the chauffeur at the airport half and hour after his flight landed to say he had locked his record box in the boot of his car and couldnt open it. I was pissed off to say the least. I demanded he repay the deposit I'd paid his agents, and refund the cost of the chauffeur and hotel. I then heard that my name was all over the German techno press as disreputable c*nt who no one should deal with. For what its worth, Ben Sims stood in to play that night. It was the first time he had ever played in a 'commercial club'. The wheel obviously came full circle when he started recording for Tresor. (ps - im not a disreputable c., I think i;m fairly honourable ...) - Original Message - From: Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:19 Subject: Re: [313] Liberators i am not too crazy about their muszika but i must say aaron liberator played acid techno set in a very underground party in the forrest of jerusalem. that means this dude is cool :) y. - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 5:57 AM Subject: Re: [313] Liberators Yes, to this day Chris Liberator adores Alan Oldham because he came up to them and laughed about it - something like, I'm from Detroit, I'm intelligent and I'm 'avin' it. Rightly or wrongly, the idea behind the title according to the guys was a dig at the UK dance press, not Detroit, which at the time was very snobbish about counterpointing the US music against rave culture. (Oh how soon that evaporated, with the rise of that old UK imperialism.) Most of those guys, especially Chris, have backgrounds in punk music. They have a good allegiance with Carl Cox too. Until lately those guys' scene, the squat party/acid techno scene, was ignored by the UK press but apparently their records have been supported by the hard house contingent. Until lately Chris was living in a council flat, so they are humble guys. I think there was an article in Seven in which they cited an appreciation for early UR stuff. They come out to Australia a lot. -- From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Liberators Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 7:33 PM 'for those that don't know, the liberator DJs are part of London's underground rance scene. they once did a mix CD called its not from Detroit and its not intelligent but its f*cking banging. i think that says it all really.' -Eric Scuccimarra Me, I actually LIKE the Liberators! They know how to rock a crowd and keep a positive vibe going. It's true, it's not brain food (mostly - I heard 'Moonraker' by the Foremost Poets first dropped by them - the original mix) but it's damned good fun! Most importantly, they've still got this idea about dance being something like a unifying and catalytic social force. (Naive, I agree, but I'm a sucker for sincere idealists and triers). And underpinning the compilations of medieval acid, is always a push to get people involved in their environments and take control of their lives - usually politically. Sound familiar, Detroit? I had a laugh recently when I read a track title on one of Chris' latest mixes 'Hackney Council Are A Bunch of C*nts'! I think the Nuclear Free Zone parties are still running at 414 (Brixton)... I'd recommend them. K -Original Message- From: Tim Maughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 3:34 PM To: Ploegmakers, Joost; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] re- gary numan yeah that was it. well spotted. on 14/2/02 3:11 pm, Ploegmakers, Joost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: F*cking 'avin' it was actually the last part of the title. Well at least they're honest about themselves... -Original
[313] Fw: Angel Rockcliffe
From: Michael D Tyrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: s mcgill [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 09:24 Subject: Angel Rockcliffe I would just like to second scott's comments here. Around 93/95 Dave Angel was one of my top rated DJs. He was always massively inventive and kept u interested throughout his sets. I have one brilliant tape of his here which I still play regularly to this day. I saw Dave play about 3 times in reasonably quick succession about a year ago, twice here in and around London and once on continent - cant remember where. I was very disappointed on each of the 3 occasions. There's a very close tight-knit nepotic London techno scene and my sentiments go the same way about the triumvirate. Will Umek (http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?Record edMediaID=69685) who I have playing in the background come to rue the day? Sorry to waffle and now side track - I saw Umek / Valentino down the End on Saturday Night at Billy's Open to Torture. I'd seen the trio at Atomic Jam on NYE and thought Valentino played a mighty impressive set. This time I thought he sucked ... so boring. In fact my m8s went home. I'm a stalwart ... and thank god. Umek started off in the same lame vein Valentino had finished off. It took him about 20 minutes to find his groove (and he's got it about 17/18 mins into the Groovetech set again) and from there, well, probably one of the best sets I've heard in the last 18 months. I totally enjoyed listening to something which kept me interested and sounded so very different. I'm sorry, I'm not a DJ, not a producer, not a mixer - so I don't know one tune from another but I think I have a good ear : I cant tell you what he does which is different but I certainly but Umek up on the pedestal I once held Mr Angel. - Original Message - From: s mcgill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:41 Subject: Re: [313] Black techno artists hmm. I don't know where this thread started but to comment on these two artistically I would say that Angel has lost his way recently (in mine eyes), Rockliffe isn't a bad dj but I am not too sure about his productions. He needs to move way from that Carl Cox, Billy Nasty, Jim Masters stable to evolve (if he has that in the tank - remains...). Rachmad is probably the most in touch detroit-influenced black producer I can think of over here and he is from Holland. Everyone else is lost in the commercial cancer that is UK garage. 4-hero are too much of an innovation now to be linked with influences all the time, 'the boyz done good.' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Fw: Hall Oates
- Original Message - From: Michael D Tyrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 09:31 Subject: Hall Oates In the days before House, Techno ... there was indeed some dirty soul singers and Hall and Oates were definately two of them.. So how come no one remixed them... - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:44 Subject: RE: [313] Black techno artists ... See how ridiculous this gets? Admittedly this is just a tactless thing to say, but I can see where he's coming from. Janos, imho 'blackness' such as it is, is not a question of degree, it's probably more a quality of ethnicity and concommittent experience which either is - or isn't. Which is why, to me Daryl Hall John Oates (to use a perhaps too obvious example) are amongst the blackest soul singers around ... sigh, does anybody get this? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [313] Colin Dale
Mark Dale is the London brother of Colin Dale There's a third brother Trevor who has had productions as I think 'Dark Star' Mark Van Dale is a dutchman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DJ Sneak in Ann Arbor tonight.
Can't wait to see DJ Sneak here in London, or anywhere in the UK Closely followed by DJ Rush, and DJ Bone is this becoming a fashion all this DJ'ing? (I believe Mr le Bone (he isn't from Duran Duran is he?) is due at the end of the month). - Original Message - From: Sam Valenti IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 09:15 Subject: [313] DJ Sneak in Ann Arbor tonight. Come to see DJ Sneak tonight at the Necto in Ann Arbor. Ghostly International offices Valentine's Day playlist: The Cars - Heartbeat City Bogdan R. - My Love I Love Depeche Mode - Music for the Masses (Strangelove) Love - Forever Changes Sam Cooke - The Rhythm and the Blues (Nothing Can Change this Love) Love, Sam Valenti IV Ghostly International WWW.GHOSTLY.COM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Angel Rockcliffe
I would just like to second scott's comments here. Around 93/95 Dave Angel was one of my top rated DJs. He was always massively inventive and kept u interested throughout his sets. I have one brilliant tape of his here which I still play regularly to this day. I saw Dave play about 3 times in reasonably quick succession about a year ago, twice here in and around London and once on continent - cant remember where. I was very disappointed on each of the 3 occasions. There's a very close tight-knit nepotic London techno scene and my sentiments go the same way about the triumvirate. Will Umek (http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?Record edMediaID=69685) who I have playing in the background come to rue the day? Sorry to waffle and now side track - I saw Umek / Valentino down the End on Saturday Night at Billy's Open to Torture. I'd seen the trio at Atomic Jam on NYE and thought Valentino played a mighty impressive set. This time I thought he sucked ... so boring. In fact my m8s went home. I'm a stalwart ... and thank god. Umek started off in the same lame vein Valentino had finished off. It took him about 20 minutes to find his groove (and he's got it about 17/18 mins into the Groovetech set again) and from there, well, probably one of the best sets I've heard in the last 18 months. I totally enjoyed listening to something which kept me interested and sounded so very different. I'm sorry, I'm not a DJ, not a producer, not a mixer - so I don't know one tune from another but I think I have a good ear : I cant tell you what he does which is different but I certainly but Umek up on the pedestal I once held Mr Angel. - Original Message - From: s mcgill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:41 Subject: Re: [313] Black techno artists hmm. I don't know where this thread started but to comment on these two artistically I would say that Angel has lost his way recently (in mine eyes), Rockliffe isn't a bad dj but I am not too sure about his productions. He needs to move way from that Carl Cox, Billy Nasty, Jim Masters stable to evolve (if he has that in the tank - remains...). Rachmad is probably the most in touch detroit-influenced black producer I can think of over here and he is from Holland. Everyone else is lost in the commercial cancer that is UK garage. 4-hero are too much of an innovation now to be linked with influences all the time, 'the boyz done good.' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Clubbing in Paris / Brussels
he's trying to tell everyone its his birthday - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 09:44 Subject: Re: [313] Clubbing in Paris / Brussels Doh! Sorry, 02/03/02 !! Saturday 2nd March ! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] p-funk / Derrick May
The second greatest set I ever heard was at a Boxing Night STRUTT party at the Cross Club in about 1993/4. None other than Derrick May. Just for whats it's worth, the best set of my life, I heard in the spring of 1994 also surprisingly at the same venue, same night - a certain mr r hawtin. - Original Message - From: Wes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Samuel Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 02:11 Subject: Re: [313] p-funk A couple of years ago Derrick May took a turn at The Wire's Invisible Jukebox. He listened tried to identify tracks by Herbie Hancock, Olly Wilson, First Choice, Dade Krama, UR, Kraftwerk, Depeche Mode, Ice Cube, A Guy Called Gerald (one of the unsung heroes of future music), The Williams Fairey Brass Band (Acid Brass version of Strings...) Last track up was Funkadelic's (Not Just) Knee Deep, from Uncle Jam Wants You (Warners). Here's a transcription of what followed: DM: Hell, yeah! [Starts singing along] You can go to Detroit now and this stuff is still on rotation on the radio. This is a big part of my youth. M. Shallcross: So is this your favourite track from today's selection? DM: Yeah, everything else is kind of okey-doke. I wouldn't mind playing this at a party now, just to see what happens. I've heard Rob Hood play this, but I don't think he played enough of it. MS: Your famous and somewhat over-repeated equation for Techno was 'Kraftwerk and George Clinton meeting in an elevator'. Does Techno sometimes forget its funk roots? DM: Yes, I think so. It was never meant to be just about technology. It was the sound of man and machine making love. I would love to see Kraftwerk and George Clinton on the same stage, playing one after another. That would be cool. I'm still looking out for something like this today. Wes On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Samuel Hobbs wrote: please suggest some parliament funkadelic albums which would help solidify in my mind what Derrick May means when he says detroit techno is kraftwerk and george clinton in an elevator. -sam - Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] list party/gathering in the UK
OK guys I have been looking at the venue problem myself. Where do you get a safe venue where you are not going to be ripped off This has got to be a bit more than a squat party. If its mid-week, then effectively it makes it hard for people to regularly attend if it goes through the night even until 4.00am. Eukatech used to do the party at the Sun and 13 Cantons, every other Thursday, but finishing at 11.00 pm. It was'nt quite my idea of partying but got packed to the rafters on a few nights I went (so i stopped going ...) Who knows the law? I have the impression that a private party/strictly members only club does not require a licence. True/False. (I have been looking at a potential venue for lease, (warehouse) where there will be no noise problems, central and can probably hold comfortably 400 people). Problem also is you can't just rely on 313 members its just going to become a little clique There is a UK 'techno' board I stopped using as I realised it was just the same small opinionated group - we have to try and promote techno to the public and specifically the youth. Look at the techno scene in Belgium or Germany - the peeps who go to Techno are young people and its kickin. Not all 30odds which seems to be the state here in London. Would love an informative/authorative answer on the legal question of licencing a venue. - Original Message - From: Neil Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 02:52 Subject: RE: [313] lgathering in the UK / IRELAND !! im up for either london or dublin as im from ireland but currently living in surrey neil -Original Message- From: D1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:03 PM To: Sean Creen; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] lgathering in the UK / IRELAND !! If Dublin's an option for meeting up, then D1 would love to accomadate. We've a load of gigs on anyway, but we could hook something up specificly if needed. We've also got Dublin's version of Sonar/DEMF planned for September - DEAF [dublin electronic arts festival] .. Just a thought ... Eamonn - D1 Recordings / Dublin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DJ ESP / Woody McBride
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Fw: Fw: [313] hawtin fanboy q
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael D Tyrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 06:30 Subject: Re: Fw: [313] hawtin fanboy q Sorry, The modification are top secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael D Tyrer [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rve.co.uk cc: Subject: Fw: [313] hawtin fanboy q 02/05/02 10:03 AM - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 02:07 Subject: [313] hawtin fanboy q when richie refers to his Allen and Heath Xone 62 mixer (drool) he says it is modifiedanyone know what he has had done to it? soz if u view this as off topic robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [313] georgio moroder
the number of Gerorgio moroder responses prompted me to share what i had sent Maarten off board. There was a huge gang of us who went 'clubbing' if you could call it that during 1974/76 and we had a fixed routine - the only chemical was amyl nitrate bought illegally from a chemist in picadilly circus: Monday - Busbys : Charing Cross Road - was a gay club open till about 3.00 in wots now the mean fiddler Tuesdays - Crystal Palace Hotel, right on the round-about at Crystal Palace (Does anyone remember the this? Thursdays - Ripples (It was somewhere around the avenue where the Sounshaft now is). I always remember Jonathan Richman Modern Lovers Egyptian Reggae from this club - whenever i hear the tune thats my memory. Fridays - Was Louises Poland Street - Normally a lesbian club but taken over by SexPistols Friends and surprisingly a huge legion of people from Radio Luxembourg Saturdays - Global Village: (I remember Boy George about 15!) Huh! Sundays - Crystal Palace Hotel Again. sorry ... all very un-313 but reminisces .. yeah, i'm that old and still out two to three times a week (couldnt do 6 nights anymore). luv-it! - Original Message - From: Michael D Tyrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 04:59 Subject: Re: [313] georgio moroder Hi Maarten i can only tell you huge sorry not to be able to point you at any text i have the original donna summer 'i feel love' from 1976 sitting here and can tell you that around the time this first came out the whole impact of clubbing changed massively here in the UK. It was predomiantly in the gay-clubs that this was being heard and i'm sure there were earlier productions from about 1975 of his. I remember there being a huge change from disco to club sound in 1976 and have always felt that this and the diana ross epics of the time were part of the main influence. There was a huge up-change in tempo and mixing started to happen The only straight club i remember picking up with all around the same time (75) was Global Village and a club on the back Ripples or something. Funnily enough, Punk Rock, also had its part to play in a non-stop mix sound. It was in the punk clubs that mixed sound also started to happen. I remember around the same time as Global Village was happening a punk night which started in a club in Poland Street called Louises (normally a lesbian club)frequented by sex pistols, billy idol just some reminisces regards - Original Message - From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 04:44 Subject: [313] georgio moroder Hi people, I want to get a clear vision on the impact that georgio moroder had in the late 70´s and later on house and techno.. Does anyone know a good text about this guy? And more important - can I find some sound previews of what he has produced? Sorry for my bad english today.. but it has been a hectic day! Cheers, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] hawtin fanboy q
Isnt that in essense the definition of 'dance' music - its the gear doing all the work, making the music the art is knowing how to work the gear i rememebr the famous/fabulous clip in the CH4 History of House And I asked him wot he was doing? And he replied, 'I don't know And so I said 'Just keep on doing it!' - Original Message - From: Mike Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 08:18 Subject: Re: [313] hawtin fanboy q He had four new sliders added to his mixing bored. He has a stereo pair of channels that are labels sucks and another stereo pair that are labels rocks. If he wants a track to suck, he turns all the Sucks sliders up. If he wants a track to rock, he turns all the Rocks sliders up. Hawtin finally realized that he actually had nothing to do with the creation of his music, it was just his gear doing all the work. Besides, it is not a big deal because he doesn't even make real music in the first place. From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] hawtin fanboy q Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:07:35 + (GMT) when richie refers to his Allen and Heath Xone 62 mixer (drool) he says it is modifiedanyone know what he has had done to it? soz if u view this as off topic robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Georgio Moroder
a whole site dedicated to the guy http://www.dj-empire.com/morobe.htm his biog : Born in 1940 in Ortisei, Italy, Giorgio Moroder played guitar in small night clubs and theatres across half of Europe at the age of 19 before settling down in Berlin in 1967 to start his great career as a producer and composer in a somewhat unorthodox way: he wrote German schlager songs, and landed his first hit after just 6 months. He worked with singers like Michael Holm and Ricky Shayne and was soon an established composer on the schlager scene. Having shown at an early stage that he had an extraordinary instinct for mass audience appeal, Moroder started work as a producer after a spell at the Musicland Studios in Munich; by this time, it was clear that Giorgio Moroder did not crank out hits to a formula, but always let his intuition guide him. It was not long before he had mastered and integrated all the new studio technology. Moroder, who always dreamed of an American sound in Motown style, chose the bubblegum wave of 1969 as his launch-pad onto the international stage for a song he had not only composed and produced himself, but which for the first time featured English lyrics: the single Lookie Lookie was well received in Holland, Spain and France. Then the album with Pete Bellote, who has been his permanent partner since 1970, Chicory Tip - Son of my Father became a smash hit in England. His really big breakthrough, however, came with Donna Summer, who had initially auditioned as a background singer for Moroder and Bellote at the end of 1975: just 6 months later her interpretation of The Hostage climbed to the top of the Dutch and French charts. After the album Lady of the Night the trio recorded a not entirely serious track inspired by Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin's steamy hit Je t'aime, adding more than a pinch of sex themselves. Love to love you Baby was initially a flop as a single, but when Moroder had the brilliant idea of extending the track into a 17-minute disco symphony and releasing it as an album, the whole world wanted to make love with Donna. Love to love you Baby was the first worldwide disco hit - the decisive breakthrough for disco music in general and one of the most frequently copied and sampled pieces of dance music ever recorded. As a result of this enormous success, Moroder, Bellote and Summer reached their creative climax in the mid-70s and released one record after another in a very short space of time: after the concept albums A Love Triology and Four Seasons Of Love (both 1976), the I Remember Yesterday LP was released in 1977 featuring the unbelievable I Feel Love with its famous galloping bass line, fiery electronic percussion and futuristically polished production, all of which contributed to giving the track the status of an unforgettable disco anthem. The Moroder/Bellote/Summer team released two more albums, one of them Bad Girls with its chart single Hot Stuff. However, with an Oscar to his credit for the soundtrack to the Alan Parker Film Midnight Express in 1978, Moroder increasingly turned, at the beginning of the 1980s, to composing and producing film music. In addition to Flashdance - whose title song What A Feeling gained him another Oscar in 1983 - the best-known of his 40 soundtracks are those for American Gigolo, Scarface, Top Gun and his exciting and daring electro-pop re-setting of Fritz Lang's silent movie classic Metropolis. Moroder has also written the official songs for two Olympic Games and the soccer World Cup. In the 1980s he produced bands like Sigue Sigue Sputnik and went into the remixing business with the Eurythmics' Sweet Dreams. As if that was not enough, Moroder has exhibited his sculptures at numerous exhibitions and has designed a sports car which has won several awards. - Original Message - From: Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 09:31 Subject: [313] Re: Georgio Moroder At 21:30 05/02/2002 +, you wrote: From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: georgio moroder | I want to get a clear vision on the impact that georgio moroder | had in the late 70´s and later on house and techno.. Does anyone | know a good text about this guy? And more important - can I find | some sound previews of what he has produced? Have you ever listened/watched the movie Scarface? A prime example of Moroder's scoring... I haven't seen 'Midnight Express' mentioned yet... -- royal:one: - benn glazier http://www.royaltech.net - http://dj.royaltech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 61 (0) 413 316 618 r720 royal exchange nsw 1225 australia - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Swayzak defeats the Tech-House yuk
Decisions. decisions . we decided to hit Fabric on Saturday night - amazingly walked straight in without a queue (at which time still a 100 odd people in the guest list queue) I wondered if this was what Tech-house had finally brought us to ... but true to form Fabric was squashed to the rafters, although I did spot room for a sardine or two on top of the speakers... Fat Terry Francis was playing the Intec Room when we arrived .. i'll describe his set in one word: boring. I could describe it in ten words but it would just be repetitive, boring,boring,boring,boring. What the hell was he doing in the Intec room. We went upstairs to the third room, where Swayzak had just finished his DJ set. He was due back on for a live 'set' in an hour. So after a wonder around we came back to hear this. I've got to say initially i was not over impressed, but I was definately caught there intrested by the acidic, squelching noises being over laid on the top of the tunes which were spinning. About 10 minutes in three of us were looking at one another, pulling faces suggesting .. this wasnt doing it for us either. One of my m8s said he was off for a wander. The other two of us agreed we would come with... but we didnt and I've got to say that at the end we thought it had been really great and enjoyable. The pace of the set was about 122bpm (yeah, sicko .. i counted it) but it was a really good funky electro set with hints of 80s vocal accapellas laid over the top. This should have been the opening set of the Intec room. We followed up listening to C1 - so for all the doubters there was Techno played in London on Saturday night. A good interesting set. I wouldnt say the guy was brilliant but he kept our interest (138bpm) was the pace and it wasnt boring. I'd certainly go and listen to him again but at this stage I dont think i would travel the country to hear him play. In fairness I'd like to hear him play in a club where there may be some crowd reaction (ie out of london) but them tek-housas don't know how to yip and yell and show some appreciation. Trevor Rockcliffe came on to finish the last two and a half hours , he started well and kept it going but somehow lost his groove towards the end, that kept us going till 6.30 am and now there was only the main room left Craig Richards (i think). I hate being repetitive but what can I say boring, boring, boring. You know at one time I thought the Tech-house was a cool sound, after a diet of somewhat non-stop maniac Techno, it was a sort of groovy swaying, but it never went anywhere and after a couple of months it was confirmed yeuk. I havent put my 0.02p worth in yet on About the Members thread ... but i am keen to try and start a regular Saturday night proper techno night. My promotional endeavours so far havent been too successful and i've done bucket loads of money but I'm still searching for a venue at the moment, and if I can get that sorted well the spirit is willing Looking forward to hearing Oliver Ho this Thursday down Ultimate Base. - Original Message - From: Greg Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 07:03 Subject: [313] Track ID From: http://212.40.161.253/rams/wmflounge200701.ram at 35:20 into the 6 hr set Heard it a lot and don't know what it is. thanks Gregory B. Lee, Junior Environmental Engineer SEACOR Environmental Engineering Inc. Suite A - 8 West St. Paul St. Kamloops, BC V1S 1W2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (250) 374-8749 fax:(250) 374-8656 cell: (250) 314-4071 - Privilege and Confidentiality Notice The information in this email is intended for the named recipients only. It may contain privileged and confidential information. If you have received this email in error, any use, copying or dissemination of its contents is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by telephone at the number indicated on this page to arrange destruction and/or return of the email. Your cooperation is appreciated. Thank you. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FW: What's in a name?
Mueller is a very v common german name today; i never met anyone being too embarrased about being called mueller - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Shady Promoters and Carl Craig ... (no association whatsoever intended)
Ah well, maybe some-one can therefore shed a bit of light on this one. My m8s I were all looking forward to hearing Carl at Turnmills last Saturday night until we saw in the weeks before that he was no longer listed or on the flyer. The day before an e-flyer was sent to one girl saying he was playing but when she queried it with turnmills they did admit he wasnt playing. I've had countless nights when the listed DJ never turned up at Turnmills for their Headstart, including once to see Dave Clarke last year (alas not Dave Clark of this board fame - sorry to have confused u ) who not only didnt show, but didnt have any mention of turnmills on his own site's booking page. This was his booking after he failed to show when on the night he wasalso booked to play Atomic Jam. Some 3 or 4 months after he hadn't shown either ... or maybe he just wasnt booked. - Original Message - From: Jones, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Rob Theakston' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 01:53 Subject: RE: [313] about the members Known for a short, abrasive temperment but dilligent work ethic and endless energy... Also known for not putting up with shady promoters who say that Carl Craig will be performing somewhere when he's not even booked. ;) -Original Message- From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 8:44 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] about the members ?: Rob Theakston Live: in Ypsilanti. Biofeedback: Worked at Planet E for three years learning everything humanly possible about running a record label. Known for a short, abrasive temperment but dilligent work ethic and endless energy... helped behind the scenes at dozens of parties over the past two years (including the first DEMF). Currently serving stint as label manager @ Ghostly International, helping to run Touch in Ann Arbor, co-host of Crush Collision (WCBN), and technical weirdo at All Music Guide.working with amazing co-workers such as fellow list members (and like minded fanatics) andy kellman and john bush. Often mistaken for: Francois K.; and on good days my cousin Jamie (applicable UK only). Music: Obsessive fanatic. Soul, Funk, Jazz, Techno, Disco, House, Broken Beat, Afro Beat, Emo, Punk, Folk, Beach Boys, Rap, New Wave, Industrial, IDM, DIM, DIY, you name it. even Yma Sumac and Duane Eddy. though not at the same time Five records that changed my life for the better (in no order): Carl Craig : More Songs about Food and Revolutionary Art Fugazi : Repeater Beach Boys : Pet Sounds Beatles : Revolver Stevie Wonder : Songs in the Key of Life Up next: my own record label, my own music, guest starring on The West Wing and dinner theater reprising the role of Danny Zucko in Grease. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] uk-tech-house
If my memory serves me right For what its worth Swayzak are playing third room in fabric this saturday night (2/2) whilsth none other than terry francis plays in room 2 with C1 (purpose of my visit) and Trevor Rockcliffe representing Mr Cox's ( C1's )first (?) In Tec monthly residency. http://www.fabric-london.com/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:00 Subject: [313] uk-tech-house Swayzak are typical Ewoks sorry, but some strong vibe tells me this needs to be said :D -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] uk-tech-house
If my memory serves me right For what its worth Swayzak are playing third room in fabric this saturday night (2/2) whilsth none other than terry francis plays in room 2 with C1 (purpose of my visit) and Trevor Rockcliffe representing Mr Cox's ( C1's )first (?) In Tec monthly residency. TO really crown the night as Tech-House (which I've also grown to hate for its boringness ) we have in Room 1 Tyrant: Craig Richards, Lee Burridge Hipp-e and Halo [Sorry this sounds like an advert for: http://www.fabric-london.com/ ...it aint. I'm even wondering if I shouldnt be at the End for Eukateck's 50th. I'm rather fond of The Sound of Eukatech Double CD from back in about 96 On the question of Mark Dale I see he has a few new tracks out recently. .. I noticed one of them at the top of Groovetech top sellers recently and he also has many recent sets in their archive. I think what Colin and Mark both play can be described as 'tech-house' but they've managed to keep it interesting by keeping their 'funkiness'. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:00 Subject: [313] uk-tech-house Swayzak are typical Ewoks sorry, but some strong vibe tells me this needs to be said :D -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Charles Webster
Dave - surely you're not going to be playing this out? Never mind the jaguar, next you'll be playing tech-house . (a joke - sorry folks .) - Original Message - From: Dave Clark To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 01:41 Subject: Re: [313] Charles Webster Yeah I've heard it (own it). I really like it actually, it's mostly downbeat tempo, some male vocals, some female vocals. Very soulful. -Dave --- Mad'R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody heard his new album yet ? what do you think ? thxs Mad'R __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fw: Tresor : True Spirit
Ok ... so who's going to tell me where I'll find it posted on the internet in its entirety? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Oliver Ho / Reviews
After recent comments on this board london bound peeps may be interested to know that Oliver Ho is playing with James Ruskin on Thursday 7th February for 'base' at the Velvet Underground. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] deep dub detroit/berlin ramble
a cd which stayed stuck in my player for a long time this summer was Renegade Soundwave, the next chapter of dub - very dancy with a definate techno bias - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] I Love techno 6 review [LONG]
I'd just like to add my comments on ILT6. We too also went in 2000 and were absolutely knocked out : the trouble then was that there were so many artists and every one was playing for half-an-hour/45minutes - that you were all over the place like a yoyo!! The venue is massive - you've never seen anything like it. At first we thought the huge cavernous main room was it and each corner (which had its own colour) were the room areas. Little did we realise at first that when we got to that 'area' that the room was then off to the side. 35,000 people were at each event. In 2000 we got there around 10pm and there were huge queues for the coatroom and bar tickets, although I have to say we walked straight in the main doors with little delay. This year we got there at 8.30 to avoid those q's and it worked. The big difference this year also was that there were much fewer DJs playing and nearly everyone had 2hr sets. We immediately headed to hear UMEK who for me I thought it was the set of the night. We stayed on to listen to Bandalu (who disappointed me and obviously many others, cause the room completely emptied). I'm not really too much of a Dark Cave fan, but my m8s r so that was next on our agenda. Towards the end of his set the room was really hot and I made my way to the Cocoon room to see the end of Chris Liebing and Richie who has long been my 'God'. Richie played from 2-4. I wanted to hear DJ Rush who was starting at 3.45 in another room. I really enjoyed Richie's set but around 3.30ish I realised how hot I was. I tried to get to the bar/Rushs room. It took me about 20 minutes to make the Bar. The next thing I knew it was 5.00am - I was still in the Cocoon Room, Sven was playing ... I don't remember him starting or Richie finishing ... the whole interim is a black hole in my memory. OK I love music, I love partying, I dont drink, but I consume. Too often, we've looked forward to great nights, made bigged plans, got totally boshed and remembered nothing. I didnt want that to happen here and yet it did. I have to blame the heat. Its always when the heat is excessive that the blackouts happen. But I think that is what happened because of the smaller line up - too many people tried to get into one room at one time. [Incidentally I have to agree with Dennis, in 2000 Speedy J was the set of the night - and if you read his tour diarys on Plus8 site, even Richie agreed with that!] I Love Techno is an experience definately not to be missed. But, isnt it really a matter of personal opinion: in 2000 I found the crowd really wonderful, friendly people .. my m8s came home bitching about 'bloody belgians' - this year, I didnt find anything outstanding about the crowd, yet my belgian basher m8s came home saying how friendly and enthusiastic everyone was and how they must have been wrong first time around about those beautiful belges! But, at the end of the day, I normally dont go to these big festival events. As a promoter, I'm very anti running more than one room. You can only see one artist at a time, and I think its an insult to the DJ to have people running off half-way through his set to try to catch the start of someone else. What's the point of a DJ trying to take people on a journey, when the passengers arent going to be there for the whole ride. As a promoter, my DJs worked as a team to build the night continually - and so no way did the DJ playing the opening set ever bang-it. The tempo just upped and upped through the night and the peak of the night was at the end of the night. People went away on a real 'high'. Too often now I continually see DJs competing against other rooms and a 12-2am DJ banging the fu(k out of it - that halfway through the next DJs set everyone is on their way home, exhausted . I remember in the v early 90s going to huge warehouse raves in Holland where they would have 12/15000 people all in one room: they were mind blowing. One at an Ice Arena in the far north did have two rooms but the stages were at the opposite end of one arena with the bar and concessions in the middle. The way the speakers were arranged, it actually worked. When you were in the South Side you heard the South Side even at the Bar and when you were in the North Side you heard the North Stage (that's why we originally thought in 2000 [odd that it seemed] that each corner of the cavernous main room was that particular coloured area). I Love Techno, is something not to be missed - the crowd are really up for it and enthusiastic : but as I said in one of my other posts the crowd age started at 16 going upwards and u have to have young people to get an enthusiastic crowd. [It might explain why i thought the crowd this year were less enthusiastic that maybe there were less 16 yos - the event sold out and teenagers, im experience arent normally the ones to be advance buying tickets with their non-existant credit cards!]. - Original Message - From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL
Re: FW: [313] Let's All Dance
I think the two worst things I've come across, were in Munich, a guy who week in week out would start this hi-pitch screaming and just went on and on ... I dont know why they kept letting him in. The second was sadly a mate of mine who is very much into rhythm and every time he went clubbing he would find somewhere to start drumming with his hands on the woodwork. The DJs didnt take long to complain, and as soon as he starts now we have to tell him to STOP.. But seriously, the whooping, cheerings etc from the crowds are what makes the atmosphere at decent nights and it something we've spoken about a lot recently. I'm a firm advocate that you have to have young people (16/18) in clubs, they're the ones who really let themselves go, they're the ones who show the enthusiasm and create the atmosphere. Here in London techno clubs are seriously dead. There is no atmosphere at all - and why, cause in London, youngsters dont come to Techno. Now Im not saying you should have a club full of 16 year olds (try Peach - the muzik is shite ... but no one can go there and not have a good time .. and thats because everyone is up for it). Look at Atomic Jam in Birmingham - OK its the venue as well, but the place buzzs and why? cause there's a good sprinkling of youth. Sadly places like the End are full of 20somethings all standing around, trying to be trendy, yeah, people dance, but when was the last time there that there was a great atmosphere and everyone was buzzing - Original Message - From: James Bucknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: veto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 04:09 Subject: Re: FW: [313] Let's All Dance at least people aren't yelling out 'acd!' all the time. james veto [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/28/2001 06:57:23 AM What about those annoying whistleblower dudes, and those guys that holler 'whoop whoop' every now and then. They piss me off in a big way. The highly unpleasant whoop, whoop thing is now a terrible WORLDWIDE phenomena- I've been to Barcelona, New York, Detroit, London and many other places which seem to have been affected- I blame Pat'n'Mick (one for the UK audience) Jason Brunton Iridite -- End of Forwarded Message - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
