(313) canberra?

2005-02-08 Thread Rc
A longshot I know - but I'm moving down to Canberra and was wondering if
there is any 313 or related action I should know about?

Ta,
Rc



(313) Bristol?

2005-01-25 Thread Rc
I've got a friend who's moved to Bristol - where would he go to get down to
disco, deep house, D techno et al?

Ta
Rc



Re: (313) Friday treat for the balearic heads

2004-12-10 Thread Rc
I'm really digging these mixes.harvey/black c#ck bootleg mixes seem
so hard to come by..does anyone know where some other harvey mixes
subside?

Ta
Rc

on 12/11/04 9:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1) Sorry about that last post, it was supposed to be a private one
 
 OK, on with the post:
 
 One of my favourite mixes of the year came from this site, and it was
 Harvey, live in San Diego. Beautiful trippy downtempo s**t. Really blissed
 out. Just a cd that always put me in a good mood.
 
 Today there's a new one! So, I'm happy. If it's even half as good as the
 last one, I recommend it. You can grab it here:
 
 www.loungecandelas-sd.com/Harvey_101604_Pt_1/Harvey_101604.mp3
 
 www.loungecandelas-sd.com/Harvey_101604_Pt_2/Harvey_101604_Part_2.mp3
 
 And, also, I think I have Harvey to thank for really getting me into the
 latest Kraftwerk LP. I got the LP when it came out, listened a few times
 and didn't pick it up again. But, that last Harvey mix from San Diego had
 the track Vitamin, and I've hardly stopped listening to it, so I went
 back to the LP and found it a whole different experience. That track
 Vitamin is definitely in my techno top 5 for this year. It's awesome. The
 production, the little subtle melodies. It's the bomb.
 
 Alex
 
 
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Re: (313) Portable mp3 recorders?

2004-11-25 Thread Rc
I've got a 20gig iriver H300 series - I think they replaced the H100 series
and have the advantage of a colour screen so you can view photos.

the killer app for me was the line in recording. works really well and you
can encode at whatever quality you want.

also can transfer files via USB without the need for a computer so you can
transfer directly from camera to the iriver. I don't see why updates in the
firmware shouldn't allow for transfer between mp3 players in the same
fashion. the firmware is updateable and so it is likely that the color
screen can be used to watch movie files at a later stage.

There's no software that needs to be installed on your computer either - it
just appears as another hard drive on your desktop - so you simply drag
files in and out without having to maintain double copies on your computer
(like iTunes).nice sennheiser headphones too.

cnet.com will have some good reviews for you to shop around.

downsides are - fiddly buttons, a little bit of a brick, not that pretty
like the way fashionable ipod, a tiny bit slow to scroll through titles
and load up especially if full, only 4x scan speed which can be a little
annoying for long djmixes.

otherwsie i'm pretty impressed and with updateable firmware it should stand
the test of time 

happy shopping
rc

on 25/11/04 9:56 AM, Anton Banks (313) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks everyone.
 
 Ok. To summarize (in case anyone else had the same question) two recorders
 kept coming up. They are the H-140 by iRiver and the Gmini 220 by Archos. I
 still want to do a bit more research but I'm now leaning toward the iRiver
 because a LOT of people seem to have it and I've only gotten one mixed
 review about it.
 
 Thanks again,
 -Anton
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 5:39 PM
 To: Edward George
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: (313) Portable mp3 recorders?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 a friend recently bought an iriver. he's usually on 313. maybe he'll chime
 in later.
 archos also make a recording mp3 player http://www.archos.com/
 
 i sat around for a year waiting apple to include hi quality recording on
 the ipod before buying the 4g ipod. i still love my minidisk.
 
 
 
 
 Edward George
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 il.comTo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
 24/11/04 03:29 PM  cc
 
 Subject
 Please respond to Re: (313) Portable mp3 recorders?
 Edward George
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 il.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I have an iRIVER i-HP140 which is a 40Gb mp3/wav/wma/ogg jukebox which
 can record in wav or mp3 from optical / analog inputs
 
 I've already used it to record a couple of my mates sets.
 
 I love the bloody thing!
 
 http://iriver.com/
 http://iriver.com/html/product/prpa_product.asp?pidx=43
 
 iriver have loads of new product ranges now so there might be
 something better now but mine is still available.
 
 Ed
 
 On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:20:53 -0500, Anton Banks (313) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 I'm looking for a portable mp3 recorder to save my sets from an analog
 (RCA)
 mixer output? All the mp3 recorders I've seen so far have only voice
 and/or
 FM record capabilities. The only one I've found that does what I want is
 this one by Coby but it's been discontinued.
 
 
 http://www.cobyusa.com/product/item.php?item=MPR650pcat=portaudiopscat=mp3
 
 pscat2=
 
 Would anyone know of another recorder with these features? Any help would
 be
 greatly appreciated.
 
 Anton Banks
 www.antonbanks.com
 
 
 
 ForwardSourceID:NT00016302
 
 
 



(313) egyptian lover in holland

2004-10-01 Thread Rc
Friday 08-10-04
WaterFront - Rotterdam - NL
room 1:
live: Egyptian Lover, Alden Tyrell, Novamen
dj's: I-f, Serge, klen

room 2:
dj's: Duplex, Unit4, Pametex


I'm very envious - I hope one or some of our dutch listmember friends can
give us a debrief after this party



(313) new innercity?

2004-09-12 Thread Rc
This innercity whitelabel sounds great


http://217.158.65.110/MP3/SF156689-01-01-01.mp3

is this a new kevin saunderson or a re-releasewonder when the full
release is?

 



Re: (313) P2P

2004-08-11 Thread Rc

 
 :) why would it be? emotionelectric.com just hosts promo mixes by dj's.
 nowt wrong with that.

pragmatically I agree - technically however, you're reproducing copyright
musical works and sound recordings and making them available online, without
the licence of the respective owners.

That amounts to copyright infringement in most developed countries.




Re: (313) P2P

2004-08-11 Thread Rc

 
 yeah i guess it does. if you really want to get picky about it.
 
 as does playing these tracks as part of a mix on radio (online or
 otherwise). and i think technically playing records out in public ie.
 at a club.


you'll actually find that virtually all terrestrial radio stations (bar the
odd pirate staion) in the UK have licences in place to braodcast musical
works. Most clubs will have public performance licences too. Online is a
different story though.



(313) pop your funk

2004-08-11 Thread Rc
does anyone else have that 'Pop Your Funk' mix from Brennan Green?

i can only id a few and would love some help on the rest.

rc



(313) washington dc?

2004-06-29 Thread Rc
can anyone suggest some decent record stores and/or clubs in dc?

i remember someone saying recently onlist that good dance music was hard to
come buy in dc?

there must be something though.

thanks
rc



Re: (313) track ID from Ron Hardy/Deephousepage

2004-05-13 Thread Rc
on 13/5/04 11:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 
 # 1072 Ron Hardy Live @ Edge of the Looking Glass, Chicago
 
 around 13:42 and right at 14:00 - either it's a long break in the
 disco/jazz track or a different track altogether
 either way - it sounds like Ron kicks up the bass EQ so it's *really*
 thumping
 the part I'm most interested in figuring out is what that percussion track
 is
 
 sounds like he's working doubles of it


gaz - sing sing

easily available on salsoul. doesn't sound like any mixes i've heard so
could be doubles or hardy tape edit.

rc



Re: (313) Jeff Mills comp on Azuli

2004-05-04 Thread Rc
azuli's having a big sale on at the moment:

http://www.azulishop.com/


the vega 4xlp comp is only 10 squid - prerelease too

pity they dropped quite a few of the best tracks off the vinyl format

rc

on 4/5/04 1:37 PM, Ben Britz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I really like the DT one, though it took me a bit to warm up to it.
 He must have spent an immense amount of time on it because he
 re-edits nearly every track and writes a paragrah or two in the
 liner notes on each of them.
 Also have the Francois K and DLC discs and they are amazing as well.
 Gonna pick up Vega's asap and then Mills.
 
 Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 there's also a danny tenaglia and tony humphries  comp in the
 series. all
 these choice series of comps are really good, the derrick carter
 is
 brilliant. the frankie knuckles comp has the incomparable 'love
 bug' by
 bumblebee unlimited. the danny tenaglia one is the weakest - but
 it does
 contain two stone cold gems; Tony Cook - On The Floor and Hugh
 Masekela -
 Don't Go Lose It Baby.
 can't wait for the jeff mills.
 james
 www.jbucknell.com
 
 
 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 et  
 
 
 To 
 03/05/04 11:24 PM Robert Taylor
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 cc 
 Sven Venema 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 
 ThReE-oNe-ThReE
 313@hyperreal.org
 
 Subject 
 RE: (313) Jeff Mills comp
 on Azuli  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 the derrick carter one was loosly 'mixed'
 
 supposed it depends on how mixable the tracks are from one to the
 next.
 
 On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
 
 It's a compilation, not a mix, I think.
 The previous Choice comps weren't mixed.
 Frankie Knuckles, Derrick Carter and Francois Kevorkian did the
 other
 ones
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sven Venema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:08 AM
 To: ThReE-oNe-ThReE
 Subject: Re: (313) Jeff Mills comp on Azuli
 
 
 Just now, Robert Taylor wrote:
 
 Ryan just stuck this tracklisting on LD - I think it is part
 of the
 Choice series of comps. It's a good indication of the sets he
 has been
 playing at the Xmas Lost parties over the past couple of
 years:
 CD2
 [deleted]
 Ramirez - El Ritmo Barbaro
 Florence - Analogue Expressions
 
 Eh? That's gotta be an interesting mix :) Thanks for the info!
 
 Sven
 
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Re: (313) New Mix up at Emotion Electric

2004-04-28 Thread Rc
can't remember anyone commenting so I wanted to give big ups to alex for
this mix.

much respect for the homage to history as well as a nod to the present - all
blended via nice long mixes on what sounds like 3 decks (well it sounds like
that with those rhythm track transitions anyway)nice eq work too. i dig.

rc



on 23/4/04 8:22 PM, robin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Something for the weekend
 
 Alex Bond, Salford House Association presents: Broughton Bridge Boogie
 (http://www.emotionelectric.com)
 
 Wuf Ticket The Key (Prelude)
 Just One Love2Love (Isoul8mix) (Neroli)
 Galifree Beats (Danica)
 Funkmasters Love Money (Siamese)
 Made In Usa Melodies (Delite)
 Virgo Beats (Trax)
 Hercules 7 Ways (DanceMania)
 Virgo Beats (Trax)
 Kleer Keep Your Body Working (Atlantic)
 Galifree Beats (Danica)
 Electrik Funk On A Journey (Prelude)
 DJ Kent In The Bush (Theo Parrish Mix) (Bear)
 Max Berlin Elle  Moi (Joakim Mix)
 Larry Heard Daze Of Phaze (Trackmode)
 Directions Busted Trees (C's Spacetrumental) (Diaspora)
 Hal Varian Catalysm (New Religion)
 Juan Atkins I Love You (New Religion)
 Galifree Beats (Danica)
 Kasso One More Round
 Erotic Drum Band Jerky Rhythm (Scope)
 PaperClip People Paperclip Man (Retroactive)
 Shake Soundblaster (Gigolo)
 Virgo Beats (Trax)
 Servo Unique Servo Unique (Luxury)
 Yellow House Jack My Body (DanceMania)
 Jungle Wonz The Jungle (Trax)
 Virgo Beats (Trax)
 React Love Reaction (Dub) (Minimal)
 Mothers Finest DisGo..Loop
 Virgo Beats (Trax)
 ACR Do The Du (Factory)
 
 



Re: (313) carl craig edits

2004-04-19 Thread Rc
didn't he do that dick hyman moogy number

rc
on 19/4/04 8:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 there's more carl craig edits on that moxie label.
 
 anyone know which tracks he did?
 
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(313) london this weekend?

2004-04-07 Thread Rc
any party suggestions for a good friend who is in london this weekend -
assuming he's missed out on tickets to Lost?

ta
rc



Re: (313) track ID

2004-03-22 Thread Rc
good men - give it up

fairly easy to track down

later re-dited/remixed by carl craig on his ltd. subscription only 12 on
planet e

rc


on 21/3/04 8:26 AM, ryan burns at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 can anyone tell me what track ron hardy plays on his mix on the
 deephousepage.com at around 42 minutes.
 its on the first page of the web site.
 1072. Ron Hardy Live @ Edge of the looking Glass,  Chicago
 
 thanks
 ryan burns
 
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Re: (313) The story of the Original Hot Mix 5

2004-03-04 Thread Rc

don't forget the rodney dangerfield stings..

easily my favourite crew - farley keith was the best of the five IMHO
although they each had their own style

matt - where did that 'Lost In The Mix' story come from?

rc

on 4/3/04 11:36 AM, Matt MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Mar 3, 2004, at 5:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 my car is full of hotmix 5 tapes d.loaded from deep house pages (and a
 couple of tapes by a friend that's deeply influenced by the hot mix 5
 style). it's always chicago 1984 in my car. i've even come to love the
 ads
 - harlem globe trotters in town for one night only, bobby brown
 playing the
 world's largest house party, and i've got to get some hair relaxer.
 
 Hot.  Also i love the station ID's... you're with Armando's Saturday
 Night Live Ain't No Jive Dance Party... on W.  Be, Emmm, Exxx!
 (letters emphasized in time with on the downbeats of the kickdrum).
 Great stuff, it's part of it all, the era of that time and the inherent
 bit of cheese in any commercial radio show, the lazer beam sounds and
 stereo-panning whoooshes with the Station IDs.   (107.5 WGCI had some
 ridiculous sound effects).
 
 peace
 --
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Re: (313) The right download format

2004-02-10 Thread Rc
this will change.

within the next 3 years you will see apple and other communications
companies becoming quasi-labels.

as major record companies lose their powerful role as manufacturers and
distributors - they will become marketing departments and that's all. the
days of record companies asking for 70% revenue shares of sales are over.

there is no reason that in 3 years time, when the majority of all legit
music sales are digital that apple and similar won't start dangling
contracts in front of recording artists. revenue shares will become more
realistic and hopefully it will be possible for less successful musicians to
make a moderate revenue.






on 11/2/04 3:10 AM, Martin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sale.  Suddenly that 99 cent song you just bought has a cost of 50 cents.
 Split 
 that 50/50 with the artist and everyone makes 25 cents.  As you can see
 nobody
 is going to get rich any time soon.
 
 Read on fella...
 http://www.downhillbattle.org/itunes/
 



Re: (313) The right download format

2004-02-10 Thread Rc
on 11/2/04 7:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Sounds like what mp3.com was supposed to be but I don't think for a minute
 that will actually happen that way
 
 Apple and other communications companies are not altruistic entities - they
 are in it for the money
 what other communications companies are you talking about? Clear Channel?
 Time-Warner? Microsoft?

at this stage i'm talking about apple, napster, od2 and the other forefront
digi download channels


 if they become quasi-labels then I guarantee you they will have
 not-so-quasi-contracts.

of course not. this is the real world and change is gradual. their contracts
will be real but they will ask for a smaller share of reveneue than that
consistenly asked for by major labels

 they may not call themselves major record labels but they will act like
 them (and maybe worse since many large corporations are now considered
 individual entities by the law and aren't held responsible in the same way
 smaller business are). The artist will make a contract with the marketing
 department then and music will get even more recycled. The marketing
 department will take over all aspects of how to market a band because it
 will be a product. The artist will be, even more concretely, a sub-brand of
 the label. That is what marketing departments do.

yes - i'm saying that record labels will no longer own the means of
manufacture and distribution. this is their power base - it is slowly
disappearing - record comapnies are undergoing a massive restrcture atm.
they have shed 1000s of jobs worldwide.

 
 the days of record companies asking for 70% revenue shares of sales are
 over.
 
 what makes you so sure?

i work in the industry and i've seen it happen already.

 they still will have major control of distribution - look at iTunes - how
 many websites would you have to visit to get 20% of the music they have
 available?
 just one. go to kazaa and download their software.

 And if you found them all online what percentage would be able
 to sell the tune directly to you? The monopoly is just going to change
 hands 

yes you're probably right to a degree - with 5 major labels its actually
more of an oligopoly at the moment.

 I don't see it as being as equal as you do - it never has been so why would
 the already large companies who have the technological jump on it (Apple,
 etc.) 

i never said it would be equal - this is the real world, nothing is black
and white and that includes the debate over file sharing and the future of
music. i see it becoming more equal than it isperhaps I'm an optmist. i
have been witness to the disgusting behaviour of major record labels, as far
as I'm concerned I would be suprised if we reached a situation where the
power wielded by major record labels was as immense as it was up until the
late 90's/






Re: (313) RIAA v. DJ's

2004-02-01 Thread Rc
sorry jurren but that's incorrect.

in a piece of recorded music there are two copyrights:

1) the copyright in the sound recording (generally owned by the recording
company)

2) the copyright in the musical work or composition (ultimately owned by the
composer(s) who may be represented by a publisher)

if you want to copy a song from a cd/vinyl to another medium you need to
clear both copyrights.

if you wanted to to cover a song (ie. just use the composition but not the
recording) you only need the permission of the owner of the musical work.

BUMA/STEMRA (NL), SACEM/SDRM (FR), BMI/ASCAP/SESAC/FOX (US), APRA/AMCOS
(AUS), MCPS/PRS (UK) are composer based organisations - they have nothing to
do with record company associations like RIAA (US), BPI (UK), ARIA (AUS).

Typically the relationship between composers and record companies is
adverserial. For record companies, payment to composers represents a leakage
of profits and generally record companies will do everything they can to
underpay composers for the use of their copyright works.

you won't be able to license the use of singular sound recordings through
associations like the RIAA. you will need to go directly to the label
itself. the riaa may however offer 'blanket' licenses for the use of a whole
heap of their sound recordings on a radio or tv station.






on 2/2/04 1:06 AM, jurren baars at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Michael Elliot-Knight wrote:
 
 OK - so here's another question
 It's the Record Industry Association of America - which I then assume
 excludes UK, Japan, Euro, Oz, etc. labels so then, hypothetically, I could
 make a mix CD consisting solely of labels and artists from these countries
 and the RIAA then legally can't touch it because it has no jurisdiction
 over the content.
 
 no.
 
 the RIAA is the organisation that controls the copyrights in America, like
 BUMA/STEMRA in the Netherlands or SECAM in France. this means that if you
 use copyrighted material IN the US, you'll have to go through the RIAA to
 get permission. if you use it in the Netherlands, you'll have to go through
 BUMA/STEMRA. the RIAA, BUMA and others exchange their revenues, so in the
 end every coppyright owner gets what he/she deserves.
 
 so even if you use - for example - pepe braddock's 'deep burnt' on a mix,
 you have to license it through the RIAA, who in turn will make sure the
 money goes to SECAM, who will give it to pepe or his recordcompany.
 
 jurren
 
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Re: (313) RIAA v. DJ's

2004-01-31 Thread Rc
the RIAA can only purport to control and then enforce copyright in the sound
recordings of its members. Its members are mid size and large recording
companies. so it really depends on what your mix tape contains.

alot of the riaas members are large enough to support business in other
countries, with local offices managing local repertoire as well as imports
from worldwide. So territoriality won't be an issue in those cases. Also, it
is possible to sue in a foreign country with local legal representation.

It depends how the large record companies in the territory concerned are
choosing to enforce copyright. Usually the big 5 (although BMG and Sony are
merging) stick together and sue together.

down here in sydney there's been a few busts recently.

Some commercial dj got taken away by the federal police while he was in the
middle of a set in  a nightlclub in darling harbour - it was in the papers.

Some hip hop/rb djs got caught cutting up j.lo, busta rhymes etc  and
selling as mix cds - I think they had to pay for the costs of proceedings
which they lost. 

Also late last year - the first criminal charges were brought against 3
young ozzie students for setting up and operating winmp3land.com - a site
hosting and offering downloads of 1000s of commercial hip hop/rb tracks -
millions of downlaods were clocked up. They were very lucky to get away with
suspended jail sentencesbut then they were pretty dumb in the first
place. 

I think if you're using other peoples work (without permission or payment)
in order to make money for yourself, you've gotta accept what's coming to
you. 

the article posted does refer to '$100,000¹s worth of mix CDs'. Well someone
is obviously making money from the music.it only seems fair that a
portion of that money goes to the composer and the record co's involved.

but there's scum in the dance music industry just as in any other industry.

generally speaking, for a record company to bother to litigate they have to
be able to prove that they have suffered considerable financial injury. so
getting caught will depend on just how commercial you are with your
copyright infringements and how many units you want to push so as to fatten
your wallet.

down here the most popular dance mix cds would be progressive trance, tech
house, MOS and all that sort of crap.if they've been compiled without
permission it probably makes for a better society if that stuff is off the
shelves anyway. 

as always - if people were a little more educated, and introspective about
music and didn't consistently lap up the crap marketed to them by major
record labels - these problems may be avoided to some extent. if you don't
like the terms and conditions that go with the music you buy - don't buy it.

on 31/1/04 7:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 
 OK - so here's another question
 It's the Record Industry Association of America - which I then assume
 excludes UK, Japan, Euro, Oz, etc. labels
 so then, hypothetically, I could make a mix CD consisting solely of labels
 and artists from these countries and the RIAA then legally can't touch it
 because it has no jurisdiction over the content.
 
 this, I believe, is the most complete list available of labels that are
 members of the RIAA
 http://www.riaa.com/about/members/default.asp
 
 so don't use those labels in your mixes or stick with independent labels
 from outside the US and you're golden... unless those artists and labels
 ask you to remove the track from your mix
 
 let me know if this is or isn't true
 
 MEK
 
 
 
 jonathan morse   
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   313@hyperreal.org
 cc:  
 01/30/04 05:00 AMSubject:  (313) RIAA v. DJ's
 
 
 
 
 
 
 DJs mix CDs attacked in attempt to control copyright
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Words: Terry Church
 
 The Record Industry Association of America (RIAA) has launched
 a new campaign against DJs in an attempt to control copyright infringement.
 
 They have already confiscated $100,000¹s worth of mix CDs
 from independent record stores across the US.
 
 DJ mix CDs, sold in almost every independent record store are
 on the whole unlicensed and technically illegal to distribute. However,
 DJs and producers alike often rely upon these illegal mixes in order
 to gain credibility, and to promote themselves to the general public.
 
 The practice is in fact approved of by most producers who see it
 as fundamental to the survival of the dance scene - even if it is
 their tracks that are being copied and played without permission.
 This latest attack by the RIAA is therefore hypocritical ­
 they claim that their pursuit of copyright infringement is primarily
 in the interest of the artist, yet most dance producers actually
 approve of and rely upon this illegal distribution.
 
 
 The dance scene relies upon these ?illegal¹ ways tosurvive,
 and it seems that the only people who actually care about
 this particular copyright infringement are not the artists 

Re: (313) re: Saunderson/Disney

2004-01-19 Thread Rc
with a decent lawyer it shouldn't be difficult

specially with a company like disney that guards its copyrights\ vehemently.
all ks needs is a copy of the movie and a decent ip lawyer and i'm sure
disney will settle in good faith. someone should tell him

rc
on 19/1/04 11:44 AM, Dan Sicko at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jan 18, 2004, at 7:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I was watching Pixel Perfect today (a new made for tv movie on the
 disney
 channel), and I heard Saunderson's Forcefield (i think it was
 Forcefield) about 2/3 of the way through it, uncredited.  I'm guessing
 because these songs are produced by independent labels it happens
 often?
 
 Yep.  I remember hearing Metro Area's Piña in a Volvo radio
 commercial back in 2002.  Pretty sure MG hasn't gotten anywhere chasing
 that one down.
 
 -d
 



(313) kai alce' mixset

2004-01-18 Thread Rc
live mix on the deephousepage fornt page right now

rc



(313) glimmer twins mix

2004-01-08 Thread Rc
i've really been digging this mix.lots of oldschool, disco and new
wave re-edits.no fancy mixing but would have been cool to have been
dancing to this one wherever it was recorded.

find it at:

http://www.glimmertwins.com/glimmmix.html

along with a couple of ron hardy mixes

rc



Re: (313) Derrick may - Track ID? Detroit Technology archives

2003-12-22 Thread Rc
thanks Matt

I'm listening to the Derrick May mix on this page:

http://www.theplayground.com/static_music/derrickmay.ram

what the track he plays at 18mins:40seconds in. I've seen derrick play quite
a few times and he loves this one. I wanna do anything

What is it? - it sounds like something Carl Craig would do in the early-mid
nineties.

ta
rc

on 23/12/03 6:23 AM, Matt MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Every once and awhile you stumble across some nice web archives from
 the past that didn't get rinsed out when a server crashed or a domain
 name expired or a start-up folded (R.I.P.  Groovetech)... but here are
 some good Real Audio sets from the Detroit Technology show from 1999
 
 http://www.theplayground.com/static_music/
 
 currently kicking the Common Factor one..  very nice
 
 peace,
 --
 Matt MacQueen
 http://sonicsunset.com
 



(313) hey ya?

2003-12-16 Thread Rc
dunno if its been discussed on the list yet but outkast's 'hey ya' is
definitely one top 10 mainstream chart hit I really enjoy hearing on the
radio.

how come no stores seem to sell 12s of it though?

rc



Re: (313) Poison of Babylon (was Derrick May Melbourne)

2003-12-05 Thread Rc
i've gotta agree with that.

i hope you didn't  behave hypocritically and refresh yourself with an
alcoholic beverage after 'lecturing' people about taking 'drugs'. drugs are
an important contributor to dance music culture. it would be naive to ignore
that.

conservatives that pay out on weed and stimulant whitegoods whilst happily
sucking down a beer are annoying.

as i enter the older part of my 20's i'm noticing that i'm no longer in the
younger half of the crowd in clubs - you should accept it as a compliment
that people think that you look hip enough to be in the 'know'.

as for derrick - the last 4 or 5 times I've seen him he's been
alright..after i see him I always pull out my old mixes of him from
87-89 on WJLB detroit radio - when he used to work doubles of eddy grant,
into doubles of liasons dangereuses and scratch in 'can u feel it', with lil
louis 'music takes me away' mixed over the top followed by Harry thurman's
disco classic 'underwater' into Todd Terry's 'can u party'pretty diverse
s%$t mixed in an adventurous way like it should be.he doesn't really
push the envelope any more for me.



on 5/12/03 10:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 
 
 huh?
 you were in a bar, honky tonks--a business that profits from selling the
 drug alcohol--and you question someoone who wants to use a different drug
 to the state sanctioned one.
 jeez, try to be a little more open minded, maybe alcohol isn't for eveyone.
 let people choose the recreational drug they want to take.
 
 james
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Cyclone Wehner 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:  313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
 ail.com.au  cc:  (bcc: James Bucknell/ARD/AU/ReadersDigest)
 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Melbourne
 04/12/03 06:31   
 AM   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Grandmas are catching the Holy Ghost in churches on Sunday mornings
 without
 taking drugs, why do you need that  to feel this music?
 
 They could have been undercover cops, Home is apparently very strict on
 that
 thing.
 
 ;)
 
 --
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Melbourne
 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 4:46 PM
 
 
 I had at least two people ask me where they could buy drugs and gave
 them
 lectures
 
 what kind of lecture??
 
 k
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:10 AM
 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Melbourne
 
 
 I had at least two people ask me where they could buy drugs and gave
 them
 lectures plus some wasted girl burnt me with her cigarette otherwise
 there were good things for sure. I met some nice people, for sure. ;)
 I think the best techno crowd I saw lately in Syd was at Biz-E's Chinese
 Laundry with Kevin Saunderson, that was a really live crowd.
 
 --
 From: David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Detroit
 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Melbourne
 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 3:00 PM
 
 
 Cyclone Wehner wrote:
 
 Ace!!!
 Better crowd.
 Intimate. Two days of promotion and full house on a Wed.
 Blood was spilled, but it happened.
 Someone said it was a statement and it was that. I was scared the
 system
 would blow up (he he Patrick, remember the time), but it held up.
 He played Nina Simone's See Line Woman twice, Latin, techno, deep
 house,
 etc, etc, etc.
 
 You know, the crowd that was at home nightclub on Saturday night would
 have to be one of the better (if not best) crowds that I've witnessed
 there over the years... And that's not just because of all the techno
 heads who descended on the place.
 
 
 
 
 
 



(313) wax for sale

2003-11-26 Thread Rc
hi,


sorry for the spam, but i'm selling off some music from my colection. A bit
of detroit techno and house, chicago house, electro and disco.

check:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/richardcranston/

and let me know if anything takes your fancy.

cheers
richard




Re: (313) Secret History

2003-11-19 Thread Rc
excellent work alex - great compilation and nice to see someone that takes
the time and shows the respect to do things the right way



on 19/11/03 10:42 PM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (OK, I can't keep this in anymore and Alex you are too modest! :-)
 
 You can beat me up next week mate!)
 
 Pls check out this compilation which should be heading your way soon. It's
 been put together by 313's own Alex Bond and his associate Dan Keeling (who
 co-produced a record with Kirk Degiorgio this year).
 
 The following text is courtesy of Piccadilly records.
 
 http://www.piccadillyrecords.com
 
 Various Artists : A Secret History (EMI)
 For New Religion's Dan Keeling and Alex Bond, this compilation of
 early 80s electronic tunes has been a two year labour of love.
 Undetered by countless bootlegs of Alexander Robotnick's Problemes
 D'Amour, My Mine's Hypnotic Tango and a load of other 'reissues',
 they set about licensing some of the rarest, obscurest and downright
 oddest pre-techno tracks the world has evert heard. From the classic
 Italo of Klein  M.B.O. Wonderful, new romantic electronica of
 Visage's Frequency 7 and NYC punk-funk of Material's Secret Life,
 it's clear that this compilation is the authoritative collection of the
 once forgotten 80s underbelly. Also featuring comprehensive versions of
 Liaisons Dangereuses, Telex and Gaz Nevada, it trumps them all with the
 amazing Temporary Secretary from ex-Beatle Paul McCartney, which
 starts off like the maddest Drexciya record you've ever heard! Totally
 essential.
 
 2xLP - REG85 - £16.99 - limited cheap price
 LP packaged in deluxe heavyweight gatefold sleeve with classic 'pasted
 on' artwork.
 
 CD - REG85CD - £13.99 - limited cheap price
 The CD has eleven tracks, also featuring Riuchi Sakamoto's Riot In
 Lagos and Throbbing Gristle's Hot On The Heels Of Love.
 



Re: (313) internet radio ruling

2003-10-22 Thread Rc
you'll find that the US is an anomaly with regards to the payment for the
transmission of sound recordings over terrestrial radio.

other countries recognise a right in the broadcast of copyright sound
recordings - on and offline.

depending on how underground the music is - the RIAA will not control that
repertoire, and thus will have no rights to claimit will take alot of
resources for the RIAA to implement a licence scheme for all US sites that
stream music..

it will be interesting to see how internet radio portals like live365 deal
with the ruling..



on 22/10/03 8:14 PM, jurren baars at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://dc.internet.com/news/article.php/3096481
 
 internet radio will have to pay royalties.
 not just that, they'll have to pay royalties to the producers, artists and
 composers of the work.
 traditional radio only has to pay royalties to the composers.
 
 the reason why tradition radio has to pay royalties only to the composers,
 and not producers and artists is that: traditional radio stimulates sales,
 whereas internet radio does not...
 
 it's not yet the final verdict, but this might have some serious
 consequences on internet radio in general, but underground music in
 particular.
 
 jurren
 
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Re: (313) id record scd-013

2003-10-15 Thread Rc
dan bell's seventh city

john tejada release

www.sonicgroove.com

on 16/10/03 7:39 AM, scotto at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 anyone know who this is?
 orange label no writing except the run out groove
 scd-013
 
 music is deeper minimal techno/boardering on micro
 
 website, artist, anything.
 
 also is there a site you can look up labels by there vin. #?
 
 -scotto
 lansing, mi.
 plaztikjezuz.com
 
 



Re: (313) Why is derrick carter teasing us????

2003-09-28 Thread Rc
don't you hate it when you spend alot of time and a bit of money getting the
harder to find cool old stuff and then someone goes and releases it on a
nicely packaged dj friendly release at a reasonable price..

on 27/9/03 9:12 PM, Phonopsia at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 11:17 AM
 Subject: (313) Why is derrick carter teasing us
 
 
 Man
 
 WHY?
 
 The new Choice - A Collection Of Classics on azuli is compiled by
 Derrick
 Carter. The first track on it is ULTRA rare master jay and michael d -
 T.S.O.B. (the track is somtimes called ready to rock). But he used the
 vocal verion, and that one is allready re-issued. We all want the
 INSTRUMENTAL, don´t we?? Everyone I know wants the instrumental... damn.
 
 Dd. That vocal is cool! Different strokes I s'pose.
 
 I was just looking at this last night, and it is quite a bargain at £15 for
 4xLP with 15 tracks. Haven't seen the full tracklist yet, but based on the
 three sounds samples they have online @ Piccadilly it sounds groovy to me.
 If I didn't already have Savage Progress 'Heart Begins to Beat', I would've
 snatched it up just for that.
 
 Tristan
 ===
 http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 



Re: (313) Au Revoir Groovetech

2003-09-24 Thread Rc
i agree, file sharing has certainly increased your freedom as a consumer.
one is free to take as they wish, without permission and without direct
payment.

your views of musical socialism are fine for those that willingly
participate - but it's questionable whether such a system should be forced
onto creators and other owners without their approval.

i think it is not so much about capitalism nor profit, but about choice.
composers should be given the choice of how their music is to be distributed
and whether they want to value it commercially or just give it away. Take
that decision away, and the incentive to create/work is affected.

If you do not like the way that labels or other owners set the current terms
for the consumption of their music, then simple - don't consume it. but to
steal it and then have the defense, that you are contributing to the
creation of a more humane and ethical society, is a concept that some may
find to difficult to swallow.



on 24/9/03 10:16 AM, David Powers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1.  Whether freedom is desirable, is not my point.  But I'd argue very
 strongly that file sharing has tremendously increased my freedom as a
 consumer.  I now have a choice.  One could say, in fact, that I
 participate in a kind of musical communism, as I support record labels
 as an ethical decision, even though I can already get the product for
 free.  I take what I wish, and pay as I am able.  I also give back
 musically in the form of the many free or very low-paying shows I have
 done throughout my life.  From some ethical perspectives this is wrong,
 but to me this is a step in the direction of what would actually be a
 more humane and ethical society.  This behavior doesn't make sense from
 an ideological economic perspective.  But economic models should not be
 mistaken for reality.
 
 2.  You seem to have a very pro-capitalist view of art, that the
 incentive and the ability to create only come from a profit motive.  I
 know many talented musicians, composers, and artists, who make very
 little at their art, and often do more commercial work to subsidize the
 art they really care about.  I don't think the economic incentive
 argument applies very well to artistic human behavior.  I wear a tie to
 work every day, in part, so that I no longer have financial pressure
 when I work on music.  Now I get to work on the music I really care
 about for its own sake.  I don't get to do it full time, but that is the
 nature of the society we live in, and these issues have been a problem
 for talented artists long before mp3s ever came around.
 
 3.  I fear the end of the golden age of free music, will only increase
 the power of corporate entities.  My belief is that the real fear the
 big labels have about file sharing is that it will weaken the channels
 of corporate distribution.  All the power the record labels have centers
 on distribution and the kind of mass marketing an economy of scale on
 that level makes possible.  If consumers started getting their music
 from anywhere and everywhere, they might be less interested in buying
 the HIT-OF-THE-WEEK just because a huge label pumped a bunch of money in
 to it to make it the next big thing.
 
 4.  I think the new paradigm for music is simple.  Information truly IS
 free, because it is costly to contain, and it tends to spread as if of
 its own accord.  There are plenty of capitalistic ways to turn
 file-sharing into a strength, rather than a weakness.  Instead of
 selling the information, you sell packaging, you sell shows, you sell
 services.  You sell products that are special that amount to more than
 the musical data stored inside.  There are many possibilities out there
 for creative and motivated people!
 
 -David
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:40 AM
 To: David Powers; '313 Detroit'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: (313) Au Revoir Groovetech
 
 i'm not sure if freedom should allow for the unregulated trade in the
 intellectual property of others without their permission. This
 influences
 the incentive and the ability to create.
 
 i think that at this time, if composers and labels wanted you to have
 their
 music for free, they would offer it and many do from their websites.
 
 the web is the most efficient music distribution model ever, and the
 vast
 majority of music consumers are prepared to have their entire
 collections in
 a digital format.
 
 i think we're kinda living in a golden age of free music, but things
 will
 slowly change and hopefully there will be shift in power away from the
 major
 labels that dictate how music is to be consumed.
 
 
 
 
 on 23/9/03 9:34 AM, David Powers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Well, maybe, but once again, I might point out I bought four records
 this weekend.  3 of the records, I have MP3s of the albums I bought,
 and
 have been searching for the record.  The fourth is an artist I
 discovered in part

(313) Prince

2003-09-24 Thread Rc
Prince is coming to my town.

Has anyone seen him perform lately - what can I expect?




Re: (313) Au Revoir Groovetech

2003-09-23 Thread Rc
i'm not sure if freedom should allow for the unregulated trade in the
intellectual property of others without their permission. This influences
the incentive and the ability to create.

i think that at this time, if composers and labels wanted you to have their
music for free, they would offer it and many do from their websites.

the web is the most efficient music distribution model ever, and the vast
majority of music consumers are prepared to have their entire collections in
a digital format.

i think we're kinda living in a golden age of free music, but things will
slowly change and hopefully there will be shift in power away from the major
labels that dictate how music is to be consumed.




on 23/9/03 9:34 AM, David Powers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, maybe, but once again, I might point out I bought four records
 this weekend.  3 of the records, I have MP3s of the albums I bought, and
 have been searching for the record.  The fourth is an artist I
 discovered in part by checking out his MP3s.
 
 I also discovered The Sea  Cake through mp3s this weekend, because I
 saw a poster for an upcoming show of theirs here in Chicago.  Now,
 because I liked the music I heard, I intend to go see their show.  I
 will probably buy an album of theirs on vinyl also, if I see it around.
 
 I think that many others would have the same outlook as my own.  Of
 course, it's always scary to put ethical choices in the hands of
 consumers.  But then, isn't that what freedom (if that word means
 anything at all anymore) is all about?
 
 -David
 
 PS.  I never did try out Groovetech.  I prefer shopping in stores but I
 do use planetxusa.com sometimes.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 1:35 PM
 To: 313 Detroit
 Subject: Re: (313) Au Revoir Groovetech
 
 Now maybe the impact of rampant file sharing and burning stuff becomes
 clear... Think about it...
 
 --
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: (313) Au Revoir Groovetech
 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 12:49 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Well, it was a good run. And they will go down in history as one of
 the
 best shops to never have a shop.
 Hmmm, wonder what will happen to the archived music sets?
 
 MEK
 
 
 
 
 Phonopsia
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
 313@hyperreal.org
 sia.co.uk   cc:
 
 Subject:  (313) Au
 Revoir
 Groovetech
 09/20/03 12:46 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,9-2003431875,,00.html
 
 Tristan
 ===
 http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 



Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA

2003-09-11 Thread Rc
The P2P lobby group (made up of all the P2P software owners) have agreed to
pay the $2000 on behalf of the girl.

If the other 260 people that were sued by the RIAA were smart they'd ask the
P2P lobby group to pay for their costs too.

After all it is only the P2P companies and ISPs that are making money from
the infringing trade of copyright material across networks.




on 12/9/03 12:45 AM, Martin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is nothing more than PR spin, they will probably drop the case due to
 the fact that this 12yr old won't have to money nor will her parents. Plus
 that will teach her to collect Backstreets boys sh*te - should be made the
 law I think...
 
 And you should try buying CD's in the UK, 3 times as much - still it keeps
 Mick Hucknall off the streets...
 
 md
 
 
 
 11/9/03 1:40 PM Redmond, Ja'[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I really think the buying public should form a c.d. boycott until this stuff
 stops. If they think a thirty percent drop is bad what if just 10% of the
 people we contacted through e-mail stopped buying c.d.'s? That's a lot of
 people. And the sales would drop even more. I hate for the artist to be in
 the middle of this, but then maybe more of them would step up also.
 
 I would love to try to get this started or join a boycott that may have
 already started. I would need all the information,,i.e. facts,,rules and
 everything to send to people so they can make an intelkligent decision
 themselves. Does anyone know of where I can get the information behind the
 lawsuits? 
 
 Ja'Maul Redmond
 
 PERKINS  WILL
 
 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300
 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:30 PM
 To: jurren baars
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 $2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer?
 that's $2 per song!!!
 
 Do you suppose that the RIAA is looking at each song and each artist that
 she downloaded and giving them their fair amount? As if she had bought a CD
 from each of them - and then does that affect their chart position?
 
 I really doubt they are distributing the money to the artists - many of whom
 seem to be rather silent on the issue lately (that I've noticed). Anyone
 see/hear/read artists speaking out against what the RIAA is doing?
 
 I think their lawyers could drop $2000 at dinner after the pre-trial hearing
 (business expense - it's a meeting to figure out the game plan, honest!).
 
 
 MEK
 
 
 
 
 jurren baars
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   313@hyperreal.org
 
 mail.comcc:
 
 Subject:  Re: (313) 12 year
 old is sued by the RIAA
 09/10/03 04:31 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 the RIAA is now offering an amnesty program to filesharers, read here:
 http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNewsstoryID=3399602
 
 some people are fighting back:
 http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18658afl=frnd
 
 the same thing is happening here in the netherlands; 'stichting brein' an
 organisation that could be compared to the RIAA, has been demanding the
 names of people who's IP adresses they've got. But the internetproviders
 refuse to give those names, referring to those persons privacy rights.
 christiaan alberdingk thijm [kazaa's lawyer] points out on the website of
 his lawfirm why 'stichting brein' has not much chance of winning their fight
 for those names.
 
 i'm not sure what to think of all this.
 
 first of all, the extreme long time it took the recording industry to do
 something it could have done long ago, thereby only making things worse. and
 secondly giving the public the wrong impression; the impression that
 eventhough filesharing is not ok, it will have no consequence on you.
 
 the way they sue 12 year olds doesn't really help them either, it's like a
 shopkeeper who sees hundreds of people stealing from his shop day in day
 out, and finally does something about it, by picking out the weekest person
 
 that has ever done so, in the case a 12 year old.
 
 third, i'm really puzzled by all these settlements. $2000 for a thousand
 songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 per song!!! in
 court the RIAA would have to convince the judge and the jury that this girls
 filesharing has caused the recording industry $2000 damage. they could NEVER
 pull that off! they would even face a hard time trying to prove that there
 is a direct link beteen the decrease in sales in the music industry, and
 filesharing. just look at the shift in sales towards dvd's or even
 ringtones, and combine that with the bad economy.
 
 jurren
 
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Re: (313) viva italo

2003-09-10 Thread Rc
check the globaldarkness.com forums - it's discusseed there

rc

on 11/9/03 8:11 AM, Matt MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 what are the chances of a track ID from this TV ad?:)
 
 http://www.adformatie.nl/images/9621.mpg
 
 peace,
 Matt MacQueen
 



Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA

2003-09-10 Thread Rc
that may be true - but this doesn't really effect you does it?

what proportion of the music you buy is aligned with major record labels?

it worries me when people use the rationalisation that it's only hurting
snr. executives from major record labels when they download music off p2p
programs and then they go and download detroit stuff or other stuff which
major record labels have no rights vested within. Music from composers they
claim to support but then go and download free of charge?

one thing that's strikingly clear - no matter where the music is from, and
no matter how much it would normally cost - you can't compete with free.







on 11/9/03 8:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i'm not sure what to think of all this.
 well, let's see...the recording industry has flooded the maketplace with
 sh!t which, in reality has no value, overcharged people for it, switched to
 a digital format so that they could screw the craftspeople (not artists) who
 make this stuff...so people decided not to pay for it and are now they are
 drowning in it and want to extort a life-jacket from you (the consumer)...
 
 i think it's great!
 
 b
 



Re: (313) kraftwerk lyric permissions

2003-08-27 Thread Rc
contact emi music publishing in your territory- they represent the work so
they probably represent the lyrics too.



on 27/8/03 5:33 AM, Matt Kane's Brain at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 does anyone have a contact whom i could contact regarding reprinting
 kraftwerk lyrics?
 
 --
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 perfect as to eliminate the thrill of romantic conquest.
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Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?

2003-08-06 Thread Rc
i guess that's the same as many areas of law



on 6/8/03 4:10 PM,  James Hurlbut at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recently went to a talk by Stanford Law Professor and media critic
 Lawrence Lessig where he said that in terms of practical real world
 copyright law as it is being applied these days, successful defense
 essentially depends on how much money you have to spend on litigation. Kind
 of shocking to hear a distinguished law professor admit that.
 




Re: (313) Jaguar/Mike Pickering

2003-08-05 Thread Rc
Yeah wasn't he also behind Quando Quango?

if so - the man's a genius

rc

on 5/8/03 8:03 PM, Mann, Ravinder   [CCS] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes I remember them 'Tell me how it Feels'
 
 Mind you there were a couple of nice 'pop house' tracks on the first
 M-People record.
 
 Yes give the man a break he virtualy brought House Music to the Hacienda way
 back...and possibly opened many a door to the UK dance scene, expecially in
 the North were the music was more soulful than the acid beats of the south.
 
 
 oh, and one more thing! Mike Pickering - yep, OK, he did M-People, but I
 think he's made his contribution - 52nd Street anyone? Good Factory band,
 innovative etc. Give him a break
 
 my 2p's worth anyway.
 
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Re: (313) italo

2003-08-04 Thread Rc
yeah i'd agree with that - lots of the early italo stuff had its origins in
background music...simonetti was behind some of the goblin,tenebre
series as well as a b-grade movie called college from 81(?) which was also a
big chi-town dancefloor bomb...of course moroder did alot of work for film
also..maurizio dami (alexander robotnick) also wrote some
production/mood/library music (used as background music in ads/movies etc)
for the italian Primrose label in the 80s..
rc
on 4/8/03 9:31 PM, Cobert, Gwendal at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd say Blade runner was the thing to say - didn't the use of synths and the
 like by Italians originate with them using them for cheap OSTs, I'm thinking
 Goblin here, esp lots of cheap porno, horror and sci fi flicks ? quite a
 number of comps out there, maybe also try to get your hands on a Goblin best
 of...
 Gwendal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:15 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) italo
 
 
 I was thinking.
 
 The origins of techno are pretty well documented right?
 and we see, from what we read  hear, where some of the
 sounds/ideas/structures come from.
 
 e.g. 'No UFO's', or 'Sharevari', or 'Clear' all had
 electronic music come
 out before them, from which you can deduce that certain ideas
 or whatever
 were taken from. (P-Funk/Kraftwerk/Italo/Chicago/Disco)
 
 But, I was thinking - what came before Italo Disco? where on
 earth did some
 of those producers get some of their ideas from? It was early
 days, synths
 and drum boxes were just coming on to the market, and were barely
 affordable, but the prices were coming down.
 
 Anyone know anything about this? I picked up a copy of that Vangelis
 Bladerunner thing on the car boot sale yesterday, and its
 fairly clear that
 the Italo 'Hypnosis' versions were covers/dancefloor remakes
 of this. So,
 did the italo guys remake alot of stuff does anyone know? Did
 alot of their
 ideas come form electronic classical/experimental stuff?
 
 supposedly also Italy's 'cosmo' scene was pretty wild,
 someone said to me
 they were doing/playing loads of wild stuff before Mr Hardy
 picked it up.
 round about '79/'80/'81 onwards
 
 anyone know any more, or any info on the net anywhere? I'd be
 interested to
 know.
 
 ta!
 
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Re: (313) 29 Detroit 12s

2003-07-24 Thread Rc
never seen KA Shelby's version.I thought the version on Automan (2?) was
Hardy's re-edit...then there's Theo's edit.and Farley usde to play a
nice edit too..then there's a house remix by Diesel #1 and Mark
Imperial samples it heavily on one of his Laurent X releases from about
88..then of course the original version on the Unidisc LP which is a
much more full bodied disco release where the break sampled by eveyrone else
only really lasts for about 4 bars...


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 hmm, while we're on the subject of K-Alexi, has anyone ever seen his
 re-edit of Nightlife Unlimited's Peaches  Prunes available?
 Supposedly he did it how he remembered Ron Hardy's edit...
 
 anyone?
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(313) detroit streaming xtravaganza

2003-07-19 Thread Rc
stingray, assault, dj 3000.+ serge (clone?) from 5 days off

http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/dj_sets/dj_sets.shtml?2534202+2584688+2584508+0



Re: (313) playlist WNUR Chicago - 27 June 2003

2003-07-02 Thread Rc
yep on Island US and looks like it was licensed from Ze records - 81/82.
It's my fave was (not song for sure. Don't forget the very nice 'out come
the freaks' dub on the flip.

rc



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 Was (Not Was) - Tell Me That I'm Dreaming (Souped Up Ken Collier
 Version) (Island) '81
 
 arrrgh, whats this???
 
 sounds like it might be hot!!
 
 Is this a US Island thing does anyone know?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Alex
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Re: (313) Mojo interviews Prince OT (1985)

2003-06-26 Thread Rc
i think it's easy to misinterpret the vibe of an interview from a
transcription.

the interviewer happens to be the Electrifying Mojo - and from the shows of
his that I've heard he is/was one of the most sincere people i've ever heard
broadcast.

not too mention he played what he liked and not stuff fed to him by record
label promo departments - and he was without the doubt one of the most
influential people in shaping the detroit sound that blossomed in the 80's.

I liked Prince's movies - unique; like his sound. The world would be a
better place if all musicians created with the same motivations as Prince;
and radio would be an infinetely better medium if all broadcasters presented
programmes with the same motivations as Mojo.


on 26/6/03 8:29 PM, Martin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 25/6/03 9:15 PM Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 MOJO: You've made fantastic albums, and you've made fantastic movies,
 and you're making another movie right now.
 
 
 Albums...check
 
 Talented...check
 
 From Detroit...check
 
 Body of and adolescent teenager or lady boy...check
 
 Slept with Sheena Eastern...check
 
 Fantastic movies...no fcuking way, could this interviewer get any further up
 Prince's anal corridor...Jesh...
 
 md
 



Re: (313) Mojo interviews Prince OT (1985)

2003-06-26 Thread Rc
on 26/6/03 8:59 PM, Martin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 26/6/03 9:44 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 i think it's easy to misinterpret the vibe of an interview from a
 transcription.
 
 Sure, but I was kinda making a joke
 
 
 I liked Prince's movies - unique; like his sound. The world would be a
 better place if all musicians created with the same motivations as Prince;
 and radio would be an infinetely better medium if all broadcasters presented
 programmes with the same motivations as Mojo.
 
 
 Subjective matters aside, unique is one way of putting it and from the same
 director that brought you the A-Team is another.
 
 Not to sure that the world would be a better place either or what his
 motivations are, any who knows anything about the purple one can tell you


point taken.

I really dug that A-Team show as well though. BA Baracas, Hannibal, Face -
takes me back.




(313) Vinyl for sale/trade

2003-06-19 Thread Rc
Hi,

spam for some - treasure for others.

I've listed quite a few things from my collection and others at:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/richardcranston/

a fair bit of detroit techno/house, other u.s. house, disco, italo,
electro

let me know if there's anything you like

apologies for the spam

rc



(313) calling ani

2003-06-13 Thread Rc
ani - you emailed me but i accidentally deleted it
where r u?



Re: (313) SHAKE mix live from paris!

2003-06-12 Thread Rc
whats the track he plays at 28/29 minutes - cool different house track with
nice male vocal I've been searching for so long, searching,
searching...


on 12/6/03 4:42 AM, Michel Rijnders at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maarten Baute wrote:
 Stumbled across this gem
 
 fantastic mix by Anthony Shakir
 
 http://www.d-i-r-t-y.com/medias/mix_shakir.ram
 
 
 Does anyone know on wich label and in what year mousse t - more I get was
 released?
 
 The label is Peppermint Jam, not sure about the year though, but I think
 98 or 99. Can't find my copy :o(
 
 Cheers,
 Michel
 
 Shake plays this great disco tinged track at 32 minutes in his mix, check it
 out!!
 
 Cheers,
 Maarten
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Re: (313) MM Secret Garden sampler question

2003-05-21 Thread Rc
isn't it a mix of emotional content - which was an early house jam from
kenny initially released on Terence Parker's label Intangible?



on 21/5/03 8:59 PM, Fabrizio Nahum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi gang
 
 the second song on side B of the Silence in the Secret Garden sampler by
 Moodymann (sic!), which name escapes me now, has a subtitle that says: 92
 cassette. This happens to be a more traditional banging house tune...was
 it taken from a cassette taped in '92?
 
 fab.
 
 



(313) juan atkins?

2003-05-17 Thread Rc
haven't heard anything about juan for ages - does anyone know what he's up
to these days?

rc



(313) track id from i-F set?

2003-05-16 Thread Rc
http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/smil/djsets/startdjset.sram?2534202+2584688+258
4508+3754699+9706873

4 mins in - electro/italo number help me funk it up, we gonna funk it up
()

what is this?

ta
rc 



Re: (313)track id. 'Nothing's Been the Same...'

2003-05-14 Thread Rc
patrick adam's black ivory - mainline

lotsa nice mixes out there i don't know where to find but the original is
widely available. easily classified as one of the best disco tracks ever

rc

on 15/5/03 12:19 PM, James Bucknell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 touching disco number from a frankie knuckles @ the wharehouse mix on
 deephouse pages. if the vocals aren't enough, i'll find the link.
 
 nothing's been the same ever since you came my baby
 
 could be a minimal dub mix, maybe an accapella over a kick drum.
 
 thank
 james
 



(313) nuphonic 4 - 2xLP

2003-05-12 Thread Rc
i'm not really a fan of the label, but I bought this whole compilation
double pack online just because it had this one Arthur Russell track that is
really amazing

then when the records arrive - it turns out that the a side that is meant to
have the Russell track on it, is exactly the same as the b flip side on the
same piece of wax - annoying !!!

does anyone onlist own this dbl pack and can tell me whether this was a
general mispress, or was i just a victim of incidental badluck?



Re: (313) nuphonic 4 - 2xLP

2003-05-12 Thread Rc
it's finished - it has the russell track listed on it

on 12/5/03 10:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 That Arthur Russell track is an unreleased thing right?
 
 I wasn't sure that the LP actually made it out? I've seen white label
 copies of the LP that are fine, and also they pressed a white label 12 in
 very limited quantities with just that track on - I think 100 or so only,
 and I think it was one sided too.
 
 Is your copy a white, or a finished release?
 
 Alex
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Re: (313) Body Soul

2003-05-11 Thread Rc
it's kaput - he now plays on monday nights @ www.deepspacenyc.com on west 12
st ...i think

on 11/5/03 4:19 PM, Cyclone Wehner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just wondered, what is the current status of Body  Soul in NY - I assume it
 hasn't reopened? Or am I out of the loop?



(313) Paris this weekend/week

2003-05-08 Thread Rc
any of the french or european 313'ers know of any good parties over this
week and weekend for people into d techno, deep house, italo, electro etc?

any advice appreciated
much love
rc



(313) nyc in april

2003-03-30 Thread Rc
i'm going to be spending alot of april in nyc. I've got a list going on for
some of the more known record stores and clubs - are there any cool djs
coming to town or any lesser know spots for 2nd hand record shopping for
someone that's into deephouse, oldschool house, italo, early detroit etc.

thanks
rc



(313) dick hyman, carl craig and giles peterson

2003-03-14 Thread Rc
does anyone know the name of that Dick Hyman track that Carl played first up
on the mini mix he did for the Giles Peterson show a coupla weeks back -
'twas nice

thanks
for any help
rc



Re: (313) chicago sounding acapella 12

2003-02-27 Thread Rc
big time Hotmix 5 favourite - especially Farley

not too hard to find - many pressed - 'twas a hit

rc

on 27/2/03 4:46 PM, Alex Bates at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i dont know anything about this record except that i really like it, its an
 acapella with a handclap all the way through it :
 
 status four - you ain't down (acapella)
 
 quite a cool vocal, has anyone heard of this? is it hard to get?
 
 ab
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(313) tee scott deephouse page id?

2003-02-26 Thread Rc
sounds very like sylvester:

http://www.deephousepage.com/TeeScottliveZanzibarA.ram

10 mins in - funk it?

some disco freak knows this...

ta
rc



Re: (313) 14 years later, I finally have one....

2003-02-25 Thread Rc
didn't shake and rob hood (as the vision) do a house interface release?

on 25/2/03 10:45 PM, Placid at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2 sided Mayday ep on Pheerce citi
 
 Also  need to know apart from the sampler ep and the one with green digital
 writing  were there any other Œinterface¹  techno  releases
 



(313) VINYL for Sale

2003-02-17 Thread Rc
apologies for the spam,

but I'm selling/trading off some Detroit Techno, Bass, Electro, Afrobeat,
Disco, Pre-house, Ghetto, old school house + other stuff.

Check it out at:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/richardcranston/

and let me know if you want anything.


thanks all,
Richard



(313) suburban knight on p'frog + liasons dangereuses

2003-02-16 Thread Rc
does anyone know the release date on the upcoming suburban knight lp on
peacefrog?

+

I saw the Liasons Dangereuses reissue is out - but I've found cd only thus
far!!! I was really looking to replace my old wax copy? anyone seen an LP
reissue yet?

much love
rc



Re: (313) [313] just a quick question.

2003-02-10 Thread Rc
that's right - depending on the industry agreement in place in the territory
of production; mechanical royalties are not due on promotional pressings.

rc
on 10/2/03 9:08 PM, Jason Brunton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I also believe that Record Labels do not have to pay sales tax on copies
 which are labelled Promotional Use or pay MCPS duties on those records
 either.
 
 Cheers
 
 Jason Brunton
 Iridite
 
 
 
 
 On 2/9/03 12:11 PM, Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 DJs, shops, distributors, journalists, live bookers etc etc etc. Many labels
 add stickers to promos saying 'not for re-sale', but it's a pointless
 endeavour: most inevitably get sold on for cash. Otherwise people would have
 shelves of unwanted records sitting there going to waste.
 
 TOM
 
 
 the curiosity is burning my brain.  who gets promo copies of releases?
 and, if they're not for re-sale... how do they end up on the market?
 
 
 
 



Re: (313) [313] a g. undergroundd. may association.

2003-02-09 Thread Rc
If I remember correctly - the strings in the track are very May-esque

on 9/2/03 11:01 AM, Lee Herrington IV at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 hi folks.  i just acquired a pristine 2X12 copy of PF043 atmosfear,
 glenn underground.  i noticed that there is a track titled may datroit...
 is this a tip-o-the hat to mr. may or have glenn and derrick actually
 collaborated at some time?
 
 peace,
 lrh
 



Re: (313) tune id (metro area?)

2003-02-01 Thread Rc
haven't heard the mix but sounds very much like Alphonze Mouzon/Mouzon's
electric Band - Everybody get down (1979) on Vanguard

sounds like something Metro Area would play too

it's around - but fairly rare

very nice though.one of the few decent uses of the sax in contemporary
dance music IMHO ;)

rc

on 2/2/03 4:49 AM, Alex Bates at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ok i have an mp3 entitled 'muira - metro area' but it certainly is not this
 track, although it does sound kid of electro and may well be metro area...
 the female vocal goes :
 
 you gotta dance, move on
 get on up
 get on up
 get on up and boogie down
 
 im desparate for this tune... any ideas? i have mp3 to send if anyone is
 interested in doing some 5 star tune id-ing for me!
 
 ab
 
 



(313) Final Scratch on Mac OSX

2003-01-20 Thread Rc
there was some talk about this on the list recently i think.

TRAKTOR and Final Scratch

The new cooperation between Stanton and Native Instruments marks another
milestone in digital DJing: Final Scratch will soon be running on the power
of NI's TRAKTOR software. TRAKTOR Basic FS, the first result of this
cooperation, brings Final Scratch to the Mac OS X platform and supplies the
system with a superb digital audio engine, advanced track management
features, and much more.

http://www.native-instruments.com/traktorfs.info




(313) new larry levan rmx?

2003-01-02 Thread Rc
picked up what looks to be a bootlegged larry levan remix of a track called
Winners - reallly reallly nice stripped down rmx in Larry's spacey dubby
style beautiful male vocals too.

anyone know who did the original?



Re: (313) interesting ...

2002-12-12 Thread Rc
supercool interview from Johnreally enjoyed it


Blake did a track called Work It' for one of the Jacktrax double pack
compilations. I think the double pack is the only place you can get it
though.really sparce jack track with his TM spoken word over the top.



on 13/12/02 7:33 AM, Matthew MacQueen at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 well, I did read this about Kaos:
 http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/archives/interviews/blake_baxter.php
 Thanks Mr. Osslear!  :)
 
 Wow, this interview is fantastic.  About this part--
 
 I used to drive Derrick and we were really good friends back in those days.
 We all basically hung out and lived together. I was in Chicago at that time.
 Things weren't going well for me with Dj International. Derrick was delivering
 records for Metroplex and he was like : 'Come back to Detroit, we have a new
 sound we are working on.'
 
 So does anyone know if Blake ever got anything released on DJ International?
 And if so what did they sound like?
 
 Cheers,
 Matt



Re: (313) Derrick Back In Oz

2002-12-09 Thread Rc
he's going to be interviewed on Australian National radio and there will be
a set that he did at the Montreaux Jazz festival alongside the interview.

not sure if that qualifies as underground.

rc

on 10/12/02 3:14 AM, Cyclone Wehner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I totally respect your suspicion of the word 'underground', it's been
 tainted, but we're taking it back!
 The guys are trying to create the ideal environment - different to what
 Derrick has had before in Australia, especially in Melbourne.
 Previously they have all gone for lots of media, ads, etc.
 This time they are not doing ads in the street press, and the posters and
 art is all being done in-house and the venue is not publicised. It's a
 matter of keeping your ear to the street - it's about the buzz, not the
 hype.
 There will be no interviews. They are not going for the big-name support DJs
 but people who love music and will think it an honour to play and stay after
 for the party. These DJs just happen to be great.
 Everyone involved is a 'promoter', 'if you care, you'll share' - the guys,
 the DJs, media friends, punters.
 It's a very direct contrast to the last high profile tour Derrick did, so
 yes it is 'underground'.
 We all hope Derrick will enjoy it, he's a very interactive guy. We create an
 environment where we challenge him, he challenges us.
 
 Derrick May returns to Australia for a series of exclusive underground
 parties late December.
 
 they used the underground expresion with no point of this means that
 derrick may will do a diferent set on those partys? derrick may is my
 favorite composer and main inspiration on my own music but usualy when he
 plays he shows sets that definitly dont atract me.
 will it be diferent now? or im just dreaming here..
 
 take care you all



Re: (313) rhythm tracks?

2002-12-02 Thread Rc
yeah I forget all of those stripped down percussive instrumentals on the
trax et al b sides..

the jive and the mix your own stars are form 82/83

i think farley's on that bbc doco - playing his rhythm traks underneath a
Salsoul/Prelude acapella - supercool

kinda cool for djs to have that playing underneath phases of the dj
setand then you can play doubles of your more 'feature' tracks over the
topwhilst keeeping the beat goin.building up and down..kinda the same
sorta principals derrick may and the hotmix guys took to radio mix shows
with the 'tape loop' - playing the percussive break downs of the cool tracks
of the day underneath their actual mixes..does anyone do that anymore?


on 3/12/02 10:26 PM, James Bucknell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 here are the details on the two jive releases:
 jive rhythm tracks vol 2, (jive 1295-1-J 1982)
 more jive rhythm tracks (jive va66003 1982)
 
 farley put out two rhythm track e.ps on trax in 1986, funkin with the drums,
 and funkin with the drums again.
 
 relief records continued the chicago tradition with a number of releases
 that had sample based rhythm tracks. dj tools v.4 has italo disco classic
 klein and the mbo used for rhythm tracks.
 
 a rhythm track is just another name for bonus beats. and the best mix on a
 12 is the bonus beats.
 james (bonusbeats)
 
 
 
 
 
 Cool... can you post the info on the record labels themselves?  Do they have
 'catalog numbers' as such?  Or is the actual year on any of them?
 
 peace,
 Matt MacQueen
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:28 PM
 To: 313
 Subject: (313) rhythm tracks?
 
 
 i've got a few rhythm tracks on vinyl - most notably jive rhythm tracks 1
 and two and mix your own stars - I know these were very popular mix tool
 especially for the early-mid 80s chicago djs.
 
 are there any more I should know about? does anyone know more history about
 these very anonymous productions? on the jive tracks some rhythm tracks are
 the basis of Grandmaster Flash's The Message and Soft Cells Tainted Love
 - which came first the rhythm track or the full production? so many
 questions..
 
 rc
 
 
 



(313) rhythm tracks?

2002-12-01 Thread Rc
i've got a few rhythm tracks on vinyl - most notably jive rhythm tracks 1
and two and mix your own stars - I know these were very popular mix tool
especially for the early-mid 80s chicago djs.

are there any more I should know about? does anyone know more history about
these very anonymous productions? on the jive tracks some rhythm tracks are
the basis of Grandmaster Flash's The Message and Soft Cells Tainted Love
- which came first the rhythm track or the full production? so many
questions..

rc



(313) spam VINYL 4 trade/sale

2002-11-28 Thread Rc
hi all
 
I've listed some records.lots of wax and cds from:

UR, Frictional, Trax, DJAX, Shake, Godfather, DJ Assault, Moodymann, 7th
City, DBX, Blake Baxter, Morgan Geist, Derrick May, Keith Tucker,  Gigolo,
Tony Allen, Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson, Simonetti, Metroplex, Peacefrog,
2 Live Crew,  Puzzlebox, DataBass, Patrick Adams, Intuit-Solar,  KDJ, Track
Mode, Fingers, Knuckles, DJ International, Kenny Dope, HotMix, Rosario,
Jesse Saunders, Rush, Prince, Marshall Jefferson, Cloud One, Leroy Burgess,
Todd Terry, Meta, User, Newcleus, Bobby Orlando, Gino Soccio, Banana,
Salsoul, Kasso etc.

at:

http://home.iprimus.com.au/richardcranston/

let me know if you want to trade or buy.
thanks
richard



Re: (313) Re: [313] Musicbox Vol.2

2002-11-27 Thread Rc
I think it is an italo tune -

on and one - by Decandence on Proto recordssamples Bad girls from Donna
summer..

Rc
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Re: (313) fairmount squad

2002-11-20 Thread Rc
i'm fairly sure shake contributed somehow...either co-produced or mixed
or sumthin.

I used to have copynot that special if I recall - just the one decent
track imo

it was the only release on the label that I ever saw
rc
on 20/11/02 9:22 PM, marsel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 just digged up this record again..
 
 it's a release from 1998, by Fairmount Squad on the label Goal Line Records
 it was cut at NSC
 
 any idea, how, what, why?
 more release ?
 
 still wanting to know more..
 
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Re: (313) fairmount squad

2002-11-20 Thread Rc
fresh and crisp sarcasm..and so early in the morning in the northern
hemisphere!

pretty damn sure shake was involved.didn't he contribute something on
the list a couple of days ago..maybe he can verify


on 20/11/02 9:48 PM, Craig Harrison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ahhh... it was the any idea, how, what, why? bit that confusled me.
 
 I was going to answer:
 How : With electronic devices
 What : It's a 12 record
 Why : Because they could
 
 But that would be taking it too far. ;)
 
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 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) fairmount squad
 
 
 
 well, like i said
 who is/are the artists?
 were there any more releases by this artist?
 were there any other releases on this label
 
 things like that
 :)
 
 
 At 20-11-2002 + 10:39, you wrote:
 Techno Hustlers EP?
 
 What exactly do you want to know?
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: marsel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 20 November 2002 10:22
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) fairmount squad
 
 
 
 just digged up this record again..
 
 it's a release from 1998, by Fairmount Squad on the label Goal
 Line Records
 it was cut at NSC
 
 any idea, how, what, why?
 more release ?
 
 still wanting to know more..
 
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Re: (313) vinyl burn (was re: best decks)

2002-11-20 Thread Rc
while we are kinda on topic.I wanted to ask about vinyl burning and
stylii

if you've got old styliil can they damage your wax?

I was playing around with two copies and repeating the intro for ages...and
then when I played the same record the next day the intro was all staticy
and defintely sounded damaged. is this vinyl burn? on some stylli/cartridge
ads they talk about this 'vinyl burn'.can old needles damage your wax?

rc

on 21/11/02 7:18 AM, Jonny McIntosh at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 it when I read your emails. That's not reading between lines :) Just one
 point, I'm sure you *can* play unknown records on the fly: all records are
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 actually disagree there, given my misreading. And I'm not suggesting you do
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(313) body and soul NYC

2002-11-18 Thread Rc
was there was a link posted recently about the last body and soul in NYC?

or does someone know the body and soul url?

thanx



Re: (313) 2 things I need to know on a Monday...

2002-11-11 Thread Rc
I've got the same wizard tape with the prince cut up on it. It's from
1986amazing stuffof course i went out and bought two copies of Kiss
after I heard it...8 years on and my cut up sounds no where near as cool


he rips through doubles of beastie boys 'brass monkey, egyptian lover,
lakeside, chip e, cybotron, adonis and he always used to play mantronix
bassline or needle on the record...

ah..what happened?

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 Unfortunately it has closed down now but I'm sure you'll be able to track
 some down on the Net. The tape I have has on it a brilliant cut-up of
 Prince's Kiss, but I bet you there's loads of shows out there somewhere.
 
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Re: (313) track id - theo mix

2002-11-05 Thread Rc
pretty sure it's james mason

Rc
on 5/11/02 6:20 PM, nathan goode at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi all
 
 on the Detroit House  Classics mix by Theo on Deephousepage, can anyone
 one please tell me what the first track is?
 
 Has the lyrics:
 
 Sweet power, your embrace around me, i am saved, sweet power, your embrace.
 
 thanks in advance
 
 nath
 



Re: (313) see pete tong is cool........

2002-11-01 Thread Rc
oh manI love cassetted, kinda like a kitschy cool convenient format; its
got a certain character about it.

don't tell me the iconic mix tape is gonna disappear...


on 1/11/02 11:23 PM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, Marshall Jefferson was the producer but there *was* a Sterling Void
 group. The vocalist on It's Alright was Paris Brightledge. I even have an
 LP of their's which I purchased on cassette somewhere  - no sniggering at
 the back, this was when cassettes were considered a legitimate reproduction
 medium!
 k
 
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 To: '313@hyperreal.org'
 Subject: RE: (313) see pete tong is cool
 
 
 
 Sterling Void Now THATS a name I haven't heard in a long time...
 
 His stuff was always good! What happened to him?
 
 
 Isn´t he Joey Negro? I think he is!!
 
 All the Sterling Void tracks on DJ International are produced by Marshall
 Jeferson AFAIK
 
 KJ
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(313) hurley and pullen mix sets

2002-10-31 Thread Rc
this satdee night on 2jjj (10pm e.s.t. - Australia) has a 90 min set from
Steve Silk Hurley and a 90 min set from Stacey Pullen + short interviews
with both

The Hurley mix is ok. Dunno what happened to the skills and the records he
had when he was part of the Hotmix 5but he drops a few chi classics and
nice disco stuff amongst his newer club soulful palava.

His interview is cool  talks a little about djs not having the same sort
of skills they did back in the day and also a lil about his fallout with
Farley Jackmaster over Love Can't Turn Around - cool dude

The Pullen mix is 90mins taken live from a Melb gig - his usual apparently
diverse eurotechno/house mix.

neither are detroit really.kinda peripheral though and worthy of a
listen

live streams:

http://www.abc.net.au/streaming/triplej.ram (realplayer link)
 
http://www.abc.net.au/streaming/triplej.asx (windows media player)

and then archived instantly after at:

http://triplej.abc.net.au/mixup/sets/default.htm

worth a listen



(313) ben liebrand?

2002-10-21 Thread Rc
been listening to a few of liebrand's grandmixes. must say i'm very
impressed - kinda like Holland's version of the Hotmix 5 - except it's just
one dude.playing less chi-house/d techno but more italo

he did some cool remixes in the 80's and then disappeared..

does anyone know what happened? or have any of the dutch 313ers had the
pleasure of seeing him play out?

rc



Re: (313) ben liebrand?

2002-10-21 Thread Rc
I more meant his hotmix mixing style rather than when and where he
played.tape loops, doubles, acapellas.all that kind of cool stuff

alot of the tracks he plays on the early grandmixes are also hotmix
favourites

a cool dude

on 21/10/02 10:42 PM, Wibo Lammerts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I do not think he was doing the same as the hot mix 5. He was just recording
 mxes at home which were then broadcasted on the radio.
 
 W
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: dinsdag 22 oktober 2002 5:34
 To: Rc; 313
 Subject: Re: (313) ben liebrand?
 
 but does he have same style of station ids as the hotmix 5?
 so, how do you
 say 'wbmx...aint no jive...' in dutch?
 james
 
 From: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:48:52 +1000
 To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) ben liebrand?
 
 been listening to a few of liebrand's grandmixes. must
 say i'm very
 impressed - kinda like Holland's version of the Hotmix 5 -
 except it's just
 one dude.playing less chi-house/d techno but more
 italo
 
 he did some cool remixes in the 80's and then
 disappeared..
 
 does anyone know what happened? or have any of the dutch
 313ers had the
 pleasure of seeing him play out?
 
 rc
 
 



(313) new NSC release

2002-10-15 Thread Rc
anyone heard:


NSC-7/8DR. FEELGOOD  HIS FUNKY INTERNS



new NSC? with UR, Shake, KMS, Vmax, Rob hood contributing to past releases
I'm keen to know who's behind this one

Rc



(313) disco classic tune id

2002-10-15 Thread Rc
http://www.deephousepage.com/donna1002.ram

19 mins in

embarassed i don't know it - sounds like a classic tune

could be Barry White?

I don't love you any more - it's a shame - a dirty shame

someone must know this

ta
rc



Re: (313) disco classic tune id

2002-10-15 Thread Rc
sorry answered my own question

teddy pendergrass

shoulda known..

on 15/10/02 11:33 PM, Rc at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.deephousepage.com/donna1002.ram
 
 19 mins in
 
 embarassed i don't know it - sounds like a classic tune
 
 could be Barry White?
 
 I don't love you any more - it's a shame - a dirty shame
 
 someone must know this
 
 ta
 rc
 



Re: (313) no subject

2002-10-14 Thread Rc
if i could find a copy - i'd love to feel it


on 15/10/02 6:28 AM, Placid at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pod  vanguard ep
 
 Was listening to it on the way to work this morning...
 
 Just lifted me up and took me away  Also missed my tube stop
 
 This is a timeless piece of music..
 
 Anyone else feelin this
 
 Placid



Re: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Rc

 
 well ive certainly seen a number of small labels who either:
 a) encourage people to download their stuff as a 'try before you buy'
 thing.
 b) do not mind that there are people who download and then don't buy. I
 guess the reason behind this is these people are music fans rather than
 business people and they realise most of the people who listen to their
 stuff are music fans too - they buy as much as they can afford but they
 cant afford everything.
 
there's no doubt that's true. i'd suggest they are a small minority - this
kind of altruistic behaviour is great - unfortunately not that pervasive ...

a small number of labels have made this choice. perhaps one should think
about the number of labels/composers/producers that have had this choice
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Re: [313] Final Scratch - thoughts...

2002-09-19 Thread Rc
 Inceidently it would be
 interesting to know where Richie Hawtin gets the MP3s he's used in his sets.
 Has he actually sat down and taken the time to encode his whole record
 collection?


yeah - he's playing out here next week and i thought about the same
questionI kinda came to the resolution that's he's got enough $ to have
'people' do that for him?



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Re: [313] Can anyone id this

2002-09-18 Thread Rc
that's an old UR record from like 1990 . I think it might be the one on
Shockwave - can someone else expand on that???

rc

on 19/9/02 8:11 AM, Placid at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.teklan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/dara.ram
 
 For a friend
 
 
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Re: [313] Religious Major Producers

2002-09-16 Thread Rc
'tis true -

after working in music copyright for a while - one rule of thumb i've come
to discover is (the rule has it's +'s and -'s):

you know you got some talent - when someone tries to rip u off

 

on 17/9/02 12:32 AM, Cyclone Wehner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 many major artists sign contracts where they give away too much
 
 control about their art -
 
 they do this for money (needed or greeded ?),
 
 I think 8/10 it is young, naive artists inexperienced with the industry -
 they're the ones who get exploited, they're young, naive and impressionable
 and impulsive. Everyone is like that 18 - 23.
 If there's a recurring narrative in this industry, it's that. Most
 artists/producers in, say, their early 30s will have a few stories to tell
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Re: [313] Shake DEMF Mix - Tune ID

2002-09-14 Thread Rc
I haven't listened - but I've heard the mix a few times and i'm pretty sure
you're talking about

Nick Straker Band - Little Bit of Jazz

you should be able to get it on the magnificent Prelude labelor a
Frankie Knuckles Comp called Choice a Collection of Classics (which a has
some other essential stuff on it)

enjoy it

rc
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 Does anyone know what the second tune on the DEMF Shake mix on groovetech is
 - starts about 3:30 in [funky number with a male vocal and he pulls off some
 2copy shenanigans] ?
 
 http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?Recorde
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[313] track ids?

2002-09-12 Thread Rc
I'm hoping u can help me id a coupla things from an old hurley set.

http://www.deephousepage.com/steve5.ram

15 mins in. (little bit before) - all it is is a bassline, persussion, some
slick disco guitar a kettle drum every so often and some reindeer bell
sounds. 

other id:
23 mins in - old disco/salsoul classic or something. i'm sure someone knows
it.

ta
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Re: [313] john rocca

2002-09-06 Thread Rc
mm nice track


i think i've got a copy somewhere on beggars banquet

check out farley's mix of 'move' too

rc
on 6/9/02 6:42 PM, Maarten Baute at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 little question:
 
 on wich label has the following track been released?
 
 john rocca - i want It to be real (farley's hot house piano mix)
 
 I don´t find any information on this on the net.
 
 Thank you,
 Maarten
 
 
 
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[313] dj godfather

2002-08-29 Thread Rc
heard an interview today with him done for australian radio...


he says some interesting things about the very poor dj skills of the
multinational millionaire djs.he also mentioned he goes through 100
records in 60 minutesand doesn't play sets longer the 90 mins long
because its too hard to bring enough records and to work the decks that hard
for that long.looking forward to seeing him

for australian list members - there'll be a 90 min set on JJJ national radio
this week on the mix up show. it was recorded live last sunday at Detroit's
St Andrews hall. The interview will be on the show too. Should be a bit of a
contrast to what one would normally hear on the national state sponsored
youth radio station.

for international list members - I'm sure they webcast live

rc


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Re: [313] dj godfather

2002-08-29 Thread Rc
sorry - should've put the url.

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/listen/default.htm

i think 10:30 pm EST

enjoy
rc
on 29/8/02 8:26 PM, Ian Cheshire at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 anyone got any mixes of his to download then?
 
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 From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: 313
 Subject: [313] dj godfather
 
 
 heard an interview today with him done for australian radio...
 
 
 he says some interesting things about the very poor dj skills of the
 multinational millionaire djs.he also mentioned he goes through 100
 records in 60 minutesand doesn't play sets longer the 90 mins long
 because its too hard to bring enough records and to work the decks that hard
 for that long.looking forward to seeing him
 
 for australian list members - there'll be a 90 min set on JJJ national radio
 this week on the mix up show. it was recorded live last sunday at Detroit's
 St Andrews hall. The interview will be on the show too. Should be a bit of a
 contrast to what one would normally hear on the national state sponsored
 youth radio station.
 
 for international list members - I'm sure they webcast live
 
 rc
 
 
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[313] *VINYL FOR SALE*

2002-08-29 Thread Rc
Hi All,

for those that are interested - I'm selling off some music for a variety of
reasons, so I've listed heaps on my website.

Lots of Detroit techno/electro/house, chicago techno/house, disco, electro,
ghettobass, italo and funk.

UR, Frictional, Trax, DJAX, Shake, Curtin, Godfather, DJ Assault, Sound
Signature, Moodymann, 7th City, DBX, Blake Baxter, Bunker, Keith Tucker, Rob
Hood, Gigolo, Tony Allen, Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson, KMS, Metroplex,
Biorhythms, Rick Wade, Peacefrog, Puzzlebox, DataBass, Intui-Solar, Tresor,
VMax, KDJ, Theo Parrish, Track Mode, Fingers, Knuckles, DJ International,
Kenny Dope, HotMix, Rosario, Jesse Saunders, Rush, Prince, Marshall
Jefferson, Todd Terry, Central, Code Red, Meta, User, Newcleus, Bobby
Orlando, Visage, Gino Soccio, Banana, Salsoul etc.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/richardcranston/

reasonable prices. economy airmail. will ship anywhere. references
available.
thanks
Rc


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