Re: (313) Mills
Hah I imagine Mills has off nights, but in general he is always pretty awesome. What I wondered: What would happen if I went down to City Hall where I live and said I'd like a permit for an event we're calling Crime Festival. Things probably different in Italy... On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote: I listened to this today, its very good get on it https://soundcloud.com/r_co/jeff-mills-live-crime-festival
(313) Mills
I listened to this today, its very good get on it https://soundcloud.com/r_co/jeff-mills-live-crime-festival
Re: (313) Mills mix
Thanks Paul, Great mix ! Carlos Boix +447979044454 On 21 Dec 2012, at 14:43, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote: Not sure if this has been posted here before? Mills in sci-fi mode, its very very good. http://www.mixcloud.com/ilarianaida/jeff-mills-dj-set-crime-fest-04-08-012/?utm_source=widgetutm_medium=webutm_campaign=base_linksutm_term=cloudcast_link
(313) Mills mix
Not sure if this has been posted here before? Mills in sci-fi mode, its very very good. http://www.mixcloud.com/ilarianaida/jeff-mills-dj-set-crime-fest-04-08-012/?utm_source=widgetutm_medium=webutm_campaign=base_linksutm_term=cloudcast_link
(313) Mills talking to the Detroit Free Press about his Wizard sets, influence of Motown, etc.
...and Detroit peeps: he's playing at Necto in Ann Arbor this Sunday... http://www.freep.com/article/20121011/ENT04/310110005 Producer and DJ Jeff Mills is celebrating the 20th anniversary of his label Axis Records. The Detroit native first became prominent in the mid-'80s, spinning now-legendary mixes as the Wizard on Detroit radio station WJLB-FM (97.9). Then he became an international star in electronic music circles by cofounding the Underground Resistance techno collective and later starting Axis. Now based in Chicago, Mills has become one of the world's most coveted DJs and techno producers. Axis just released Sequence: A Retrospective of Axis Records, a 320-page photographic book complete with a 30-track compilation on a USB card. It shows all the conceptual projects, design schemes, product and merchandise and a lot of other information, Mills says. This weekend, he'll revisit his roots and spin a Wizard set at the Necto in Ann Arbor, where he used to be a resident DJ. QUESTION: You used to spin at Necto (then known as Nectarine Ballroom) three night a week in the late '80s. What are some of your memories from those gigs? ANSWER: There are many. Until then, I had managed many DJ residencies in and around Detroit, but it wasn't until securing the Nectarine Ballroom that I could really try new ideas and experiment with the audience. With the help of my older brother Dennis, who oversaw the production, I was able to incorporate various equipment setups and be more conceptual with the music. An important aspect was that I was positioned on the dance floor, in and along with the people. I believe this made the relationship with the audience much stronger. I remember rushing back from Detroit to Ann Arbor, because I had to deliver my Wizard radio show to WJLB. I remember routinely giving hand signals to the lighting engineer, Mad Hatter, informing him how many minutes I wanted to play at the end of the party. I remember things like certain people always dancing in the same position for every party. I remember a Halloween party where I dressed up as a prisoner and spun the whole night with handcuffs on. We used to have a lot of fun. Q: How much planning was required for Wizard sets? A: There was a lot. Literally the entire day would be spent searching the record shops and various places for music to play for the show that evening. When the outlets in Detroit weren't enough, I would drive to Chicago, Toronto and to other cities get new music. At WDRQ 93 FM, in addition to my salary, I was given a music-spending budget. This would allow me to find and grab anything I thought was worthy of programming. I also had the rare ability to play anything I wanted -- whenever. This way, there was not a pre-approval period, which means, music was played on the radio as soon as possible. All the shows at WDRQ were live. At WJLB, the first few years were live, but the recording and music equipment technology was getting better, which allowed me to create more complex shows and multi-track mixes. With this, I could play more new music in a shorter time span. Working with these recording machines gave me the idea to start making the music earlier in the day and playing it live as if it were new records that just came out. Competitively, I was quite fierce. When new records would arrive at record shops, I would go in and buy all the copies so that I would have the only ones in the city. Q: What defines a Wizard set for you? A: A DJ set that encompasses various styles and forms of music. Not always in a humorous or comical way, but with sincerity and passion. Even though I was quite young then, I was old enough to know the power of music. I was aware that if many people heard the right thing at the right time, it could make a world's difference for the person who made it. A Wizard set for me is a DJ set that has the motive of enticing the listener enough so that he or she would go out and buy the record. While on the radio, I knew that I only had a small time frame to make my point, so playing the entire song would have taken up too much time. A way of quick mixing was something I developed. I would only play the best parts of the song in order to convince the listener to want to hear more. Most of the time, it worked. Q: What elements or techniques have you added to your DJing style? A: Ironically, I never lost my sense of what I'm doing. I still very much believe that music is best served hot, so I go through much effort to make this happen. My objective has not changed and I've maintained the process, though it's more complex and involves a team of people. I still hope to bring new things to the listener. ... I'm still being paid to inform people of new music. For technique, I've become wiser with my technical skill. I use hand speed and agility only when it's called for -- not just doing it for the sake of showing off or battling other DJs. Technology can only take the DJ so far. It's helpful
(313) Mills 20 year retropective
Just saw this on the internets: http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2012/04/jeff-mills-release-20-year-retro No release date as yet, but looks pretty epic. Sequence: A Retrospective of Axis Records 1. Tranquilizer EP (AX-001) 1992 Mutant Theory 2. Mecca EP (AX-004) 1993 Step To Enchantment (Stringent Mix) 3. Drama EP (AX-006) 1993 Suspense (Remix Version) 4. Cycle 30 EP (AX-008) 1994 Utopia 5. Growth EP (AX-010) 1994 Growth 6. Purpose Maker EP (AX-011) 1995 Casa 7. Humana EP (AX-012) 1995 Gamma Player 8. Very EP (AX-016) 1996 Normalism 9. Tomorrow EP (AX-018) 1997 What if 10. Live Series (PM-007) 1998 5 Minutes, 29 Seconds at The Rex – Paris 11. Apollo EP (AX-019.5) 1999 Starless 12. Metropolis CD/EP 2000 Perfecture 13. Preview EP 2001 Glen21 14. Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 1-3 2002 Composite EDHID Review 15. See The Light 1-3 2003 A 'Seethelight' Mix (7 Minute Mix) 16. The Tomorrow Time Forgot 2004 Man Made 17. Suspense/Dramatized 2005 Dramatized 18. Blade Runner (AX-044) 2006 Deckard 19. One Man Spaceship 2006 The Art of Barrier Breaking 20. Systematic/The Sin (AX-048) 2007 The Sin 21. Alpha Centauri EP 2008 Alpha Centauri 22. The Good Robot (AX-055) 2009 Composite The Good Robot Review 23. Sleeper Wakes CD 2010 Space Walk 24. The Occurrence 2010 CD Segment Excerpt 25. The Power EP 2011 Microbe 26. The Messenger CD 2012 Industry of Dreams -- Patrick Wacher
Re: (313) Mills 20 year retropective
I'd download that for a dollar! On 4 Apr 2012, at 23:57, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote: Just saw this on the internets: http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2012/04/jeff-mills-release-20-year-retro No release date as yet, but looks pretty epic. Sequence: A Retrospective of Axis Records 1. Tranquilizer EP (AX-001) 1992 Mutant Theory 2. Mecca EP (AX-004) 1993 Step To Enchantment (Stringent Mix) 3. Drama EP (AX-006) 1993 Suspense (Remix Version) 4. Cycle 30 EP (AX-008) 1994 Utopia 5. Growth EP (AX-010) 1994 Growth 6. Purpose Maker EP (AX-011) 1995 Casa 7. Humana EP (AX-012) 1995 Gamma Player 8. Very EP (AX-016) 1996 Normalism 9. Tomorrow EP (AX-018) 1997 What if 10. Live Series (PM-007) 1998 5 Minutes, 29 Seconds at The Rex – Paris 11. Apollo EP (AX-019.5) 1999 Starless 12. Metropolis CD/EP 2000 Perfecture 13. Preview EP 2001 Glen21 14. Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 1-3 2002 Composite EDHID Review 15. See The Light 1-3 2003 A 'Seethelight' Mix (7 Minute Mix) 16. The Tomorrow Time Forgot 2004 Man Made 17. Suspense/Dramatized 2005 Dramatized 18. Blade Runner (AX-044) 2006 Deckard 19. One Man Spaceship 2006 The Art of Barrier Breaking 20. Systematic/The Sin (AX-048) 2007 The Sin 21. Alpha Centauri EP 2008 Alpha Centauri 22. The Good Robot (AX-055) 2009 Composite The Good Robot Review 23. Sleeper Wakes CD 2010 Space Walk 24. The Occurrence 2010 CD Segment Excerpt 25. The Power EP 2011 Microbe 26. The Messenger CD 2012 Industry of Dreams -- Patrick Wacher
Re: (313) Mills 20 year retropective
I have a lot of these records, but not all. At the very least, I'd buy a copy for KFJC so that they would have the history in place. Patrick Wacher wrote: Just saw this on the internets: http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2012/04/jeff-mills-release-20-year-retro No release date as yet, but looks pretty epic. Sequence: A Retrospective of Axis Records 1. Tranquilizer EP (AX-001) 1992 Mutant Theory 2. Mecca EP (AX-004) 1993 Step To Enchantment (Stringent Mix) 3. Drama EP (AX-006) 1993 Suspense (Remix Version) 4. Cycle 30 EP (AX-008) 1994 Utopia 5. Growth EP (AX-010) 1994 Growth 6. Purpose Maker EP (AX-011) 1995 Casa 7. Humana EP (AX-012) 1995 Gamma Player 8. Very EP (AX-016) 1996 Normalism 9. Tomorrow EP (AX-018) 1997 What if 10. Live Series (PM-007) 1998 5 Minutes, 29 Seconds at The Rex – Paris 11. Apollo EP (AX-019.5) 1999 Starless 12. Metropolis CD/EP 2000 Perfecture 13. Preview EP 2001 Glen21 14. Every Dog Has Its Day Vol. 1-3 2002 Composite EDHID Review 15. See The Light 1-3 2003 A 'Seethelight' Mix (7 Minute Mix) 16. The Tomorrow Time Forgot 2004 Man Made 17. Suspense/Dramatized 2005 Dramatized 18. Blade Runner (AX-044) 2006 Deckard 19. One Man Spaceship 2006 The Art of Barrier Breaking 20. Systematic/The Sin (AX-048) 2007 The Sin 21. Alpha Centauri EP 2008 Alpha Centauri 22. The Good Robot (AX-055) 2009 Composite The Good Robot Review 23. Sleeper Wakes CD 2010 Space Walk 24. The Occurrence 2010 CD Segment Excerpt 25. The Power EP 2011 Microbe 26. The Messenger CD 2012 Industry of Dreams -- Patrick Wacher
(313) Mills Set, Detroit '94
Another rough diamond mined from the caves of yesteryear: http://soundcloud.com/r_co/jeff-mills-live-club-studio Cheers, Wes http://www.youtube.com/user/Wesprin On 27/11/2011, at 9:04 PM, Robin Pinning wrote: Shake sent this to me but we figured it was worth sharing... Begin forwarded message: On 26 Nov 2011, at 16:39, Anthony Shakir wrote: Anthony Shakir shake1sha...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Robin Pinning robin.pinn...@me.com To: marsel mar...@nomorewords.net Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sat, Nov 26, 2011 8:16 am Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs Guess I'm one of the grand pas too. Nice combo of tracks Marsel... Robin here's one for the 313 grand pas feat MK http://www.delsinrecords.com/release.php?idxRelease=2919 and talking about re-issues here's the first of four Drexciya albums http://clone.nl/item21960.html Op 26-11-2011 0:07, David Powers schreef: This is the whole problem with this list, nobody cares about new music it's like a bunch of grandpas sitting on their porch talking about the good ole days... Which is ridiculous because there has NEVER been a better time for new music, despite the fact that it's terribly hard to make any kind of money at it anymore. my friend fbk told me that that people want the classics. some of these (r)ecords were hard to get when they were made. and in trying to get them if you were not in the stores when they were delivered you missed out. i always looked at this music as bigger than it ever was. and the actual sales reminded me of the reality of it not being as big as i thought. but it was big to me. and still is big to me. the distributors only (buy) what they will sell. so i guess that is what help(s)it stay what it is. a cultish/niche genre thing. i can live with that having made some of it. money is an afterthought. it is a labor of love for me. so i do no not complain that i make just enough to keep doing it. (this is a business ron murphy reminded me once r.i.p .) so i will go on. for some, music is life. for others, it is noise and a waste of time. you can always hope that some hip hop guy will borrow it (sample it) and turn it into a profitable venture. shake shakir frictional recordings detroit, michigan.
Re: (313) Mills streaming live NOW
here's the link to the archived interview: http://171.66.118.50/~hso/eclektronik_groove-jeff_mills-20091214_0949-interview.mp3 wojtek 2009/12/14 maxphi...@gmail.com: Thanks for the link! Is this still on? Is it over? I can't tell what's going on. m50 At 2009.12.14 13:11, you wrote: on web radio/kzsu now: http://hsomusic.com/show/ BTW, he played a great set here in SF a couple days ago (he's truly a musical shaman imo)--but the sound left a lot to be desired. -Wojtek
(313) Mills streaming live NOW
on web radio/kzsu now: http://hsomusic.com/show/ BTW, he played a great set here in SF a couple days ago (he's truly a musical shaman imo)--but the sound left a lot to be desired. -Wojtek
Re: (313) Mills streaming live NOW
it ended at noon local time. they should rebroadcast during the 3-6pm (pacific) time slot. 2009/12/14 maxphi...@gmail.com: Thanks for the link! Is this still on? Is it over? I can't tell what's going on. m50 At 2009.12.14 13:11, you wrote: on web radio/kzsu now: http://hsomusic.com/show/ BTW, he played a great set here in SF a couple days ago (he's truly a musical shaman imo)--but the sound left a lot to be desired. -Wojtek
RE: (313) mills the good robot
Hmmm actually that description is intriguing... Ken -Original Message- From: irid...@gmail.com [mailto:irid...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of ja...@iridite.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:46 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: kent williams; mislav bobic; 313 Org; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot It's not Dubstep apparently (even though it's on Hyperdub)- it's UK Funky - possibly the worst name for a genre since..errr, I don't know - NU Jazz? It sounds like a mixture of 4 Hero's Talking Loud era stuff and maybe some Phil Asher/Restless Soul stuff and..early 90's deep bass techno (Forgemasters/Rythmatic) - and maybe some of the freestylin' early Detroit Rythyms - Ive been impressed with what I've heard so far in everything but name. Jason 2009/6/25 Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk: I love the Cooly G stuff I've heard - a curious hybrid of genres Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 15:24 To: ja...@iridite.com Cc: mislav bobic; 313 Org; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty Detroit-esque for UK dubsep. Love Dub especially is a sweet track. Re Surgeon: The ladies know he's taken. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) mills the good robot
Did anyone read the interview in The Wire with her. She likes to play her mums old techno records in her ukfunky sets. Id love to know which ones. But yeah not bad tune too. Rav. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk] Sent: 25 June 2009 16:04 To: kent williams; ja...@iridite.com Cc: mislav bobic; 313 Org; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Subject: RE: (313) mills the good robot I love the Cooly G stuff I've heard - a curious hybrid of genres Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 15:24 To: ja...@iridite.com Cc: mislav bobic; 313 Org; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty Detroit-esque for UK dubsep. Love Dub especially is a sweet track. Re Surgeon: The ladies know he's taken. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 # To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
Re: (313) mills the good robot
This is Glasgow - I'm afraid girls aren't into Techno here as a rule. I remember going to Sonar for the first time in 1999 and being genuinely amazed at the mix of the crowd there dancing to Mills - it was nearly 50/50! We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) 2009/6/25 mislav bobic mis...@pointsingapore.com.sg: just watched that one as well ! totally agree. wonder why there are no girls in that club though ;-)) On Jun 25, 2009, at 2:49 AM, ja...@iridite.com wrote: Damn- that's a really good interview. Weird to see a more loquacious Mills - he can be very quite and reserved sometimes but he fairly jacked up the word count for this interviewer. The point about the Laptop and having a multitude of tracks to choose from is something I wholeheartedly agree with - all good stuff Jason 2009/6/24 james.hurl...@utoronto.ca: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can
Re: (313) mills the good robot
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty Detroit-esque for UK dubsep. Love Dub especially is a sweet track. Re Surgeon: The ladies know he's taken.
Re: (313) mills the good robot
Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: This is Glasgow - I'm afraid girls aren't into Techno here as a rule. I remember going to Sonar for the first time in 1999 and being genuinely amazed at the mix of the crowd there dancing to Mills - it was nearly 50/50! We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) 2009/6/25 mislav bobic mis...@pointsingapore.com.sg: just watched that one as well ! totally agree. wonder why there are no girls in that club though ;-)) On Jun 25, 2009, at 2:49 AM, ja...@iridite.com wrote: Damn- that's a really good interview. Weird to see a more loquacious Mills - he can be very quite and reserved sometimes but he fairly jacked up the word count for this interviewer. The point about the Laptop and having a multitude of tracks to choose from is something I wholeheartedly agree with - all good stuff Jason 2009/6/24 james.hurl...@utoronto.ca: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
RE: (313) mills the good robot
I love the Cooly G stuff I've heard - a curious hybrid of genres Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 15:24 To: ja...@iridite.com Cc: mislav bobic; 313 Org; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty Detroit-esque for UK dubsep. Love Dub especially is a sweet track. Re Surgeon: The ladies know he's taken. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) mills the good robot
Yep, sausage fests all the way. I don't really get it. Same goes for writing about the music as well. And for producing and DJing, especially in Detroit! And sure, there are plenty of talented female DJs and producers around the world, just not nearly as many as the dudes. Denise On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
Re: (313) mills the good robot
That's why I play deep house now, that, and I'm too old to dance to anything faster than 128 bpm... ;-) Seriously though it's hard for me to get into pounding stuff or really fast tempos anymore, I did enjoy Mills when he played at Smartbar Chicago though, that's about the only hard stuff I've heard in the last year. But slower tempos just seem way sexier and funkier mostly. ~David On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw
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Yeah, Denise and I are here to represent the female contingent. Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas I'd be there in a heartbeat. Heather and Dayhota always kill it when they are here; I hope I live to see the day when female DJs aren't regulated to playing all-girl theme nights, topless, or as some kind of other gimmick but rather, strictly for their talent. DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, David Powerscybo...@gmail.com wrote: That's why I play deep house now, that, and I'm too old to dance to anything faster than 128 bpm... ;-) Seriously though it's hard for me to get into pounding stuff or really fast tempos anymore, I did enjoy Mills when he played at Smartbar Chicago though, that's about the only hard stuff I've heard in the last year. But slower tempos just seem way sexier and funkier mostly. ~David On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw
RE: (313) mills the good robot
DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. - unless you have a silly haircut :p Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Lori Draper [mailto:girly...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 16:41 To: David Powers Cc: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot Yeah, Denise and I are here to represent the female contingent. Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas I'd be there in a heartbeat. Heather and Dayhota always kill it when they are here; I hope I live to see the day when female DJs aren't regulated to playing all-girl theme nights, topless, or as some kind of other gimmick but rather, strictly for their talent. DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, David Powerscybo...@gmail.com wrote: That's why I play deep house now, that, and I'm too old to dance to anything faster than 128 bpm... ;-) Seriously though it's hard for me to get into pounding stuff or really fast tempos anymore, I did enjoy Mills when he played at Smartbar Chicago though, that's about the only hard stuff I've heard in the last year. But slower tempos just seem way sexier and funkier mostly. ~David On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) mills the good robot
Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas Holy lineup I feel a blog post about the ladies coming on... -Original Message- From: Lori Draper [mailto:girly...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 16:41 To: David Powers Cc: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot Yeah, Denise and I are here to represent the female contingent. Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas I'd be there in a heartbeat. Heather and Dayhota always kill it when they are here; I hope I live to see the day when female DJs aren't regulated to playing all-girl theme nights, topless, or as some kind of other gimmick but rather, strictly for their talent. DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
Re: (313) mills the good robot
It's not Dubstep apparently (even though it's on Hyperdub)- it's UK Funky - possibly the worst name for a genre since..errr, I don't know - NU Jazz? It sounds like a mixture of 4 Hero's Talking Loud era stuff and maybe some Phil Asher/Restless Soul stuff and..early 90's deep bass techno (Forgemasters/Rythmatic) - and maybe some of the freestylin' early Detroit Rythyms - Ive been impressed with what I've heard so far in everything but name. Jason 2009/6/25 Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk: I love the Cooly G stuff I've heard - a curious hybrid of genres Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 15:24 To: ja...@iridite.com Cc: mislav bobic; 313 Org; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty Detroit-esque for UK dubsep. Love Dub especially is a sweet track. Re Surgeon: The ladies know he's taken. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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Heh - it must just be Barcelona then! 2009/6/25 jwan allen jwan.al...@gmail.com: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw
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Long standing debate that one - maybe they (female producers/djs/writers) just can't break through or maybe they don't get into it in the first place because they know it'll be too hard to break through...or maybe their brains are wired differently and they just don;t care enough about the Man/Machine interface, circuit boards, reall yobscure mispresses and other highly interesting things :) Or maybe all three. Jason 2009/6/25 Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu: Yep, sausage fests all the way. I don't really get it. Same goes for writing about the music as well. And for producing and DJing, especially in Detroit! And sure, there are plenty of talented female DJs and producers around the world, just not nearly as many as the dudes. Denise On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
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It hasn't stopped several well know DJ's (one of who's name I wont even mention for the sake of everybody's sanity!) - that Feadz from ed banger was in teh shop the other day and his do is pretty bad...actually it's pretty dog on a string sort of vibe. Also see previous post about Mr Slater too. 2009/6/25 Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk: DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. - unless you have a silly haircut :p Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Lori Draper [mailto:girly...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 16:41 To: David Powers Cc: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot Yeah, Denise and I are here to represent the female contingent. Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas I'd be there in a heartbeat. Heather and Dayhota always kill it when they are here; I hope I live to see the day when female DJs aren't regulated to playing all-girl theme nights, topless, or as some kind of other gimmick but rather, strictly for their talent. DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, David Powerscybo...@gmail.com wrote: That's why I play deep house now, that, and I'm too old to dance to anything faster than 128 bpm... ;-) Seriously though it's hard for me to get into pounding stuff or really fast tempos anymore, I did enjoy Mills when he played at Smartbar Chicago though, that's about the only hard stuff I've heard in the last year. But slower tempos just seem way sexier and funkier mostly. ~David On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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FACT Cooly G mix that I've been listening to recently: http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=2507Itemid=28 Has a couple of those tracks on. robin... Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty Detroit-esque for UK dubsep. Love Dub especially is a sweet track.
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Maybe it's the weather, maybe it's being trapped on an island with all the other yobs, but I feel like the UK would sink in the ocean if it wasn't inventing a genre every few minutes. You'll have to excuse we Yanks if we can't keep up. Case in point -- Boomkat has this '14 tracks' thing where they sell 14 tracks under a topic heading. Their latest one is 'Opening Up UK Funky.' While there are several tracks I'd identify as 'UK funky' about half of them are from releases I already own, that I thought were dubstep. What would happen to a producer in the UK who just made what he or she felt like making, and didn't align themselves with a scene? Lucky there's a Welfare State in place, otherwise they'd starve. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: It's not Dubstep apparently (even though it's on Hyperdub)- it's UK Funky - possibly the worst name for a genre since..errr, I don't know - NU Jazz?
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Whenever I hear about a party that advertises that all the DJs are
women, I feel suspicious. The lure should be the music that'll be
played, not the gender of the DJs.
Unless their gender has some direct bearing on what I'll hear, why
bother to mention it?
It makes me think that the party will likely attract a bunch of smarmy
guys who'll be there for the girl-watching and not the music, which will
make me less inclined to go to the party.
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Lori Draper wrote:
Yeah, Denise and I are here to represent the female contingent.
Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if
she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas I'd be there in a
heartbeat. Heather and Dayhota always kill it when they are here; I
hope I live to see the day when female DJs aren't regulated to playing
all-girl theme nights, topless, or as some kind of other gimmick but
rather, strictly for their talent.
DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter
what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, David Powerscybo...@gmail.com wrote:
That's why I play deep house now, that, and I'm too old to dance to
anything faster than 128 bpm... ;-)
Seriously though it's hard for me to get into pounding stuff or really
fast tempos anymore, I did enjoy Mills when he played at Smartbar
Chicago though, that's about the only hard stuff I've heard in the
last year.
But slower tempos just seem way sexier and funkier mostly.
~David
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote:
Jason,
I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this
side of the ocean as well.:)
jw
(313) mills the good robot
http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can
(313) Voorn was Re: (313) mills the good robot
james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can Speaking of Orlando, he's got a new label starting up called Divine Records. First 3 releases are from him, Wyndell Long, and Subotica. Andrew 2 posts in a row, can you guess my children are napping? :) Duke
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Damn- that's a really good interview. Weird to see a more loquacious Mills - he can be very quite and reserved sometimes but he fairly jacked up the word count for this interviewer. The point about the Laptop and having a multitude of tracks to choose from is something I wholeheartedly agree with - all good stuff Jason 2009/6/24 james.hurl...@utoronto.ca: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can
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Never mind all that stuff about robots, technology etc- whaddabout Luke Slater's new haircut Tt's a belter (see Resident Advisor for further info/inspiration)! These are the important issues that get discussed too infrequently in my opinion. Jason 2009/6/24 ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com: Damn- that's a really good interview. Weird to see a more loquacious Mills - he can be very quite and reserved sometimes but he fairly jacked up the word count for this interviewer. The point about the Laptop and having a multitude of tracks to choose from is something I wholeheartedly agree with - all good stuff Jason 2009/6/24 james.hurl...@utoronto.ca: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can
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if it would be about taking a piss then fine I guess but seems they are pretty serious abut the haircuts these days huh ?!?! so today if you're bold, you're fakd...;-)) On Jun 25, 2009, at 3:53 AM, ja...@iridite.com wrote: Never mind all that stuff about robots, technology etc- whaddabout Luke Slater's new haircut Tt's a belter (see Resident Advisor for further info/inspiration)! These are the important issues that get discussed too infrequently in my opinion. Jason 2009/6/24 ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com: Damn- that's a really good interview. Weird to see a more loquacious Mills - he can be very quite and reserved sometimes but he fairly jacked up the word count for this interviewer. The point about the Laptop and having a multitude of tracks to choose from is something I wholeheartedly agree with - all good stuff Jason 2009/6/24 james.hurl...@utoronto.ca: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can
RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
What's the verdict on the Mills mix then ? I tried to d/l it last night, but just got the following message : The file could not be found. Please check the download link. Kind regards, Gary Entertainment UK Ltd Auriol Drive | Greenford Park | Greenford | UB6 0DS x: 2946 | t: +44 (0)20 8833 2946 Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonTo: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net, 313 313@hyperreal.org concept.nlcc: Subject: RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) 18/12/08 07:16 DJ Bone live @ void, Shanghai, 06-12-2008 http://rapidshare.com/users/9BKP4Q 3 hrs and 35 minutes! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Joel Gajewski [mailto:lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net] Verzonden: dinsdag 16 december 2008 17:11 Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Sounds decent so far, but my speakers at work are terrible. Plus, it is hard to solely focus on it, while being interrupted by co-workers. Like I have some sort of job to do. Shesh. :) I really want that DJ Bone Shanghai mix from the other week, but I have exceeded my downloads. - Original Message From: Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:19:38 AM Subject: RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Found a link of Mills in Chicago on the web, dunno if the quality is good and the lenght as i haven't heard it myself (yet) http://rapidshare.com/files/173671089/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12 .12.08.mp3 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: anth...@technoiraudio.com [mailto:anth...@technoiraudio.com] Verzonden: maandag 15 december 2008 18:09 Aan: 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) When Mills plays the whole spectrum, theres nothing better. I heard him mix james brown with rob hood into taana gardner with moodymann. Seamless! I go nuts when the Wiz shows up. A On Mon, December 15, 2008 11:45 am, Arturo Lopez wrote: Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen méér dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord.
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Gary, Just make sure copy the full link in ur browser. The link which is shown here has the end cut of. There's a small part below the link which needs to be put @ the end of the link as well. http://rapidshare.com/files/173671089/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12 .12.08.mp3 Martijn -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: gary.gir...@entuk.co.uk [mailto:gary.gir...@entuk.co.uk] Verzonden: donderdag 18 december 2008 9:57 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) What's the verdict on the Mills mix then ? I tried to d/l it last night, but just got the following message : The file could not be found. Please check the download link. Kind regards, Gary Entertainment UK Ltd Auriol Drive | Greenford Park | Greenford | UB6 0DS x: 2946 | t: +44 (0)20 8833 2946 Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonTo: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net, 313 313@hyperreal.org concept.nlcc: Subject: RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) 18/12/08 07:16 DJ Bone live @ void, Shanghai, 06-12-2008 http://rapidshare.com/users/9BKP4Q 3 hrs and 35 minutes! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Joel Gajewski [mailto:lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net] Verzonden: dinsdag 16 december 2008 17:11 Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Sounds decent so far, but my speakers at work are terrible. Plus, it is hard to solely focus on it, while being interrupted by co-workers. Like I have some sort of job to do. Shesh. :) I really want that DJ Bone Shanghai mix from the other week, but I have exceeded my downloads. - Original Message From: Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:19:38 AM Subject: RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Found a link of Mills in Chicago on the web, dunno if the quality is good and the lenght as i haven't heard it myself (yet) http://rapidshare.com/files/173671089/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12 .12.08.mp3 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: anth...@technoiraudio.com [mailto:anth...@technoiraudio.com] Verzonden: maandag 15 december 2008 18:09 Aan: 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) When Mills plays the whole spectrum, theres nothing better. I heard him mix james brown with rob hood into taana gardner with moodymann. Seamless! I go nuts when the Wiz shows up. A On Mon, December 15, 2008 11:45 am, Arturo Lopez wrote: Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen méér dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen méér dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord.
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
Thanks! got the first part, but rapidshare won't let me download more than 1 file (even after the first finished) - is there a per day limit? On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl wrote: DJ Bone live @ void, Shanghai, 06-12-2008 http://rapidshare.com/users/9BKP4Q 3 hrs and 35 minutes! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Joel Gajewski [mailto:lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net] Verzonden: dinsdag 16 december 2008 17:11 Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Sounds decent so far, but my speakers at work are terrible. Plus, it is hard to solely focus on it, while being interrupted by co-workers. Like I have some sort of job to do. Shesh. :) I really want that DJ Bone Shanghai mix from the other week, but I have exceeded my downloads. - Original Message From: Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:19:38 AM Subject: RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Found a link of Mills in Chicago on the web, dunno if the quality is good and the lenght as i haven't heard it myself (yet) http://rapidshare.com/files/173671089/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12 .12.08.mp3 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: anth...@technoiraudio.com [mailto:anth...@technoiraudio.com] Verzonden: maandag 15 december 2008 18:09 Aan: 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) When Mills plays the whole spectrum, theres nothing better. I heard him mix james brown with rob hood into taana gardner with moodymann. Seamless! I go nuts when the Wiz shows up. A On Mon, December 15, 2008 11:45 am, Arturo Lopez wrote: Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen méér dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. -- --- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com i...@planerecordings.com http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
Yes, there's a dl limit (unless u become a rapidshare member who pays for dl's, theen u have unlimited acces and more dl-speed ). The limit for free-users is not per day so if u try again after an hour and a half or so, it should work again. If it is busy u might have to wait a little bit longer.. Martijn -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:kuszyn...@gmail.com] Verzonden: donderdag 18 december 2008 12:09 Aan: Martijn de Blaauw CC: Joel Gajewski; 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Thanks! got the first part, but rapidshare won't let me download more than 1 file (even after the first finished) - is there a per day limit? On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl wrote: DJ Bone live @ void, Shanghai, 06-12-2008 http://rapidshare.com/users/9BKP4Q 3 hrs and 35 minutes! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Joel Gajewski [mailto:lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net] Verzonden: dinsdag 16 december 2008 17:11 Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Sounds decent so far, but my speakers at work are terrible. Plus, it is hard to solely focus on it, while being interrupted by co-workers. Like I have some sort of job to do. Shesh. :) I really want that DJ Bone Shanghai mix from the other week, but I have exceeded my downloads. - Original Message From: Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:19:38 AM Subject: RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Found a link of Mills in Chicago on the web, dunno if the quality is good and the lenght as i haven't heard it myself (yet) http://rapidshare.com/files/173671089/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12 .12.08.mp3 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: anth...@technoiraudio.com [mailto:anth...@technoiraudio.com] Verzonden: maandag 15 december 2008 18:09 Aan: 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) When Mills plays the whole spectrum, theres nothing better. I heard him mix james brown with rob hood into taana gardner with moodymann. Seamless! I go nuts when the Wiz shows up. A On Mon, December 15, 2008 11:45 am, Arturo Lopez wrote: Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen méér dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. -- --- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com i...@planerecordings.com http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen méér dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord.
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
Same files, no rapidshare here: http://www.void-shanghai.com/ unless I am not supposed to direct link On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl wrote: DJ Bone live @ void, Shanghai, 06-12-2008 http://rapidshare.com/users/9BKP4Q 3 hrs and 35 minutes! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Joel Gajewski [mailto:lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net] Verzonden: dinsdag 16 december 2008 17:11 Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Sounds decent so far, but my speakers at work are terrible. Plus, it is hard to solely focus on it, while being interrupted by co-workers. Like I have some sort of job to do. Shesh. :) I really want that DJ Bone Shanghai mix from the other week, but I have exceeded my downloads. - Original Message From: Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:19:38 AM Subject: RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Found a link of Mills in Chicago on the web, dunno if the quality is good and the lenght as i haven't heard it myself (yet) http://rapidshare.com/files/173671089/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12 .12.08.mp3 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: anth...@technoiraudio.com [mailto:anth...@technoiraudio.com] Verzonden: maandag 15 december 2008 18:09 Aan: 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) When Mills plays the whole spectrum, theres nothing better. I heard him mix james brown with rob hood into taana gardner with moodymann. Seamless! I go nuts when the Wiz shows up. A On Mon, December 15, 2008 11:45 am, Arturo Lopez wrote: Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen méér dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. -- --- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com i...@planerecordings.com http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
http://www.datavibe.net/~pwn/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12.12.08.mp3 I'll leave it up for a week - Original Message - From: Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com To: Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl Cc: Joel Gajewski lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:39 AM Subject: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Same files, no rapidshare here: http://www.void-shanghai.com/ unless I am not supposed to direct link On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl wrote: DJ Bone live @ void, Shanghai, 06-12-2008 http://rapidshare.com/users/9BKP4Q 3 hrs and 35 minutes! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Joel Gajewski [mailto:lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net] Verzonden: dinsdag 16 december 2008 17:11 Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Sounds decent so far, but my speakers at work are terrible. Plus, it is hard to solely focus on it, while being interrupted by co-workers. Like I have some sort of job to do. Shesh. :) I really want that DJ Bone Shanghai mix from the other week, but I have exceeded my downloads. - Original Message From: Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:19:38 AM Subject: RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Found a link of Mills in Chicago on the web, dunno if the quality is good and the lenght as i haven't heard it myself (yet) http://rapidshare.com/files/173671089/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12 .12.08.mp3 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: anth...@technoiraudio.com [mailto:anth...@technoiraudio.com] Verzonden: maandag 15 december 2008 18:09 Aan: 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) When Mills plays the whole spectrum, theres nothing better. I heard him mix james brown with rob hood into taana gardner with moodymann. Seamless! I go nuts when the Wiz shows up. A On Mon, December 15, 2008 11:45 am, Arturo Lopez wrote: Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen méér dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. -- --- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com i...@planerecordings.com http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
(313) Bone in Shanghai - track id (was: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12))
Michael Kuszynski wrote: Same files, no rapidshare here: http://www.void-shanghai.com/ unless I am not supposed to direct link On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl wrote: DJ Bone live @ void, Shanghai, 06-12-2008 http://rapidshare.com/users/9BKP4Q 3 hrs and 35 minutes! Can anyone id the track(s) that Bone brings in starting at around the 1:11:45 mark of Part 1? He played it/them here in LA a couple of weeks ago and it's/they're slammin'. - Greg
RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
DJ Bone live @ void, Shanghai, 06-12-2008 http://rapidshare.com/users/9BKP4Q 3 hrs and 35 minutes! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Joel Gajewski [mailto:lupikitty0...@sbcglobal.net] Verzonden: dinsdag 16 december 2008 17:11 Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Sounds decent so far, but my speakers at work are terrible. Plus, it is hard to solely focus on it, while being interrupted by co-workers. Like I have some sort of job to do. Shesh. :) I really want that DJ Bone Shanghai mix from the other week, but I have exceeded my downloads. - Original Message From: Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:19:38 AM Subject: RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Found a link of Mills in Chicago on the web, dunno if the quality is good and the lenght as i haven't heard it myself (yet) http://rapidshare.com/files/173671089/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12 .12.08.mp3 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: anth...@technoiraudio.com [mailto:anth...@technoiraudio.com] Verzonden: maandag 15 december 2008 18:09 Aan: 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) When Mills plays the whole spectrum, theres nothing better. I heard him mix james brown with rob hood into taana gardner with moodymann. Seamless! I go nuts when the Wiz shows up. A On Mon, December 15, 2008 11:45 am, Arturo Lopez wrote: Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen méér dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord.
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
Sounds decent so far, but my speakers at work are terrible. Plus, it is hard to solely focus on it, while being interrupted by co-workers. Like I have some sort of job to do. Shesh. :) I really want that DJ Bone Shanghai mix from the other week, but I have exceeded my downloads. - Original Message From: Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:19:38 AM Subject: RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Found a link of Mills in Chicago on the web, dunno if the quality is good and the lenght as i haven't heard it myself (yet) http://rapidshare.com/files/173671089/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12 .12.08.mp3 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: anth...@technoiraudio.com [mailto:anth...@technoiraudio.com] Verzonden: maandag 15 december 2008 18:09 Aan: 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) When Mills plays the whole spectrum, theres nothing better. I heard him mix james brown with rob hood into taana gardner with moodymann. Seamless! I go nuts when the Wiz shows up. A On Mon, December 15, 2008 11:45 am, Arturo Lopez wrote: Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord.
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
Just to post something meaningless - downloading now and will report later. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:19 AM, Martijn de Blaauw martijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl wrote: Found a link of Mills in Chicago on the web, dunno if the quality is good and the lenght as i haven't heard it myself (yet) http://rapidshare.com/files/173671089/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12 .12.08.mp3 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: anth...@technoiraudio.com [mailto:anth...@technoiraudio.com] Verzonden: maandag 15 december 2008 18:09 Aan: 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) When Mills plays the whole spectrum, theres nothing better. I heard him mix james brown with rob hood into taana gardner with moodymann. Seamless! I go nuts when the Wiz shows up. A On Mon, December 15, 2008 11:45 am, Arturo Lopez wrote: Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord. -- --- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com i...@planerecordings.com http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
When Mills plays the whole spectrum, theres nothing better. I heard him mix james brown with rob hood into taana gardner with moodymann. Seamless! I go nuts when the Wiz shows up. A On Mon, December 15, 2008 11:45 am, Arturo Lopez wrote: Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David
RE: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
Found a link of Mills in Chicago on the web, dunno if the quality is good and the lenght as i haven't heard it myself (yet) http://rapidshare.com/files/173671089/Jeff_Mills___Smart_Bar__Chicago_12 .12.08.mp3 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: anth...@technoiraudio.com [mailto:anth...@technoiraudio.com] Verzonden: maandag 15 december 2008 18:09 Aan: 313 Onderwerp: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) When Mills plays the whole spectrum, theres nothing better. I heard him mix james brown with rob hood into taana gardner with moodymann. Seamless! I go nuts when the Wiz shows up. A On Mon, December 15, 2008 11:45 am, Arturo Lopez wrote: Mills starting off early with some Rob Hood minus, seemed like a good start ;) I likes my techno with a little bit of melody so Meier's set wasn't quite for me; seemed most of his material was of that stripped down drum-as-melody variety. Every once and a while I'd catch something I was really into but then it was back to the drum drum drums. Opinions vary though, I'm sure. I'll have to check out more of his work. -Arturo -- Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord.
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
Wow Mills was really on point, great show! Sounded awesome on the Funktion One system in SmartBar... ~David
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
Karl The Fire Meier is the man. Make sure to check him out. [Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com] FYI, Mr. Mills will be playing at Smart Bar this Friday. Should be good times. -Arturo JEFF MILLS (axis) KARL P. MEIER (subsystence, img, remnant) TYREL WILLIAMS (gramaphone) $15 before midnight -- :: atomly :: [ ato...@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : new york city : +1.917.442.9450 ... [ e-mail atomly-news-subscr...@atomly.com for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
co-signed. nice guy, good dj - Original Message - From: atomly ato...@atomly.com To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Karl The Fire Meier is the man. Make sure to check him out. [Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com] FYI, Mr. Mills will be playing at Smart Bar this Friday. Should be good times. -Arturo JEFF MILLS (axis) KARL P. MEIER (subsystence, img, remnant) TYREL WILLIAMS (gramaphone) $15 before midnight -- :: atomly :: [ ato...@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : new york city : +1.917.442.9450 ... [ e-mail atomly-news-subscr...@atomly.com for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
Huge support for karl p-funk meier On 12/11/08, /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net wrote: co-signed. nice guy, good dj - Original Message - From: atomly ato...@atomly.com To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) Karl The Fire Meier is the man. Make sure to check him out. [Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com] FYI, Mr. Mills will be playing at Smart Bar this Friday. Should be good times. -Arturo JEFF MILLS (axis) KARL P. MEIER (subsystence, img, remnant) TYREL WILLIAMS (gramaphone) $15 before midnight -- :: atomly :: [ ato...@atomly.com : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : new york city : +1.917.442.9450 ... [ e-mail atomly-news-subscr...@atomly.com for atomly info and updates ... -- --- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com i...@planerecordings.com http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
We brought Ken Karl both to Iowa City once, and we got the added bonus of them finishing each other's sentences.
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
I'll def check out Karl, I've heard good things but am not familiar with his music. On a side note, any of you other Chicago locals know of any good weekly/monthly nights going on lately? I don't mean anything too clubby, but a local bar that has a good recurring music night would be nice. One of those situations where they let someone come in once every few weeks and play good records at a lounge or something, let me know if you know of anything, por favor. -Arturo
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
Yea I heard about the KS gig and I'm pissed I won't be able to make it. Undisclosed Location can mean really exciting party or really terrible party, but I'm sure it will be great. Thanks for the link. -arturo On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:58 PM, /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net wrote: there may be something in the Off-Site section of The Loop on dluv: http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=25.0 speaking of chicago, the giannelli (the kooky scientist) is playing NYE in chicago: http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?topic=50214.0 - Original Message - From: Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) I'll def check out Karl, I've heard good things but am not familiar with his music. On a side note, any of you other Chicago locals know of any good weekly/monthly nights going on lately? I don't mean anything too clubby, but a local bar that has a good recurring music night would be nice. One of those situations where they let someone come in once every few weeks and play good records at a lounge or something, let me know if you know of anything, por favor. -Arturo
Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
there may be something in the Off-Site section of The Loop on dluv: http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?board=25.0 speaking of chicago, the giannelli (the kooky scientist) is playing NYE in chicago: http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?topic=50214.0 - Original Message - From: Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12) I'll def check out Karl, I've heard good things but am not familiar with his music. On a side note, any of you other Chicago locals know of any good weekly/monthly nights going on lately? I don't mean anything too clubby, but a local bar that has a good recurring music night would be nice. One of those situations where they let someone come in once every few weeks and play good records at a lounge or something, let me know if you know of anything, por favor. -Arturo
(313) Mills in Chicago this Friday (12-12)
FYI, Mr. Mills will be playing at Smart Bar this Friday. Should be good times. -Arturo JEFF MILLS (axis) KARL P. MEIER (subsystence, img, remnant) TYREL WILLIAMS (gramaphone) $15 before midnight
Re: (313) Mills @ Lost
Many thanks Ian, did any 313'ers make it to the show? On 12/15/06, Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18598 Did anyone go to see him @Lost last weekend? How was the show Londoners? -- www.midnightbeats.de www.tekknikexprimental.de www.kube72.com www.myspace.com/kubeseventy2
Re: (313) Mills @ Lost
Nah I went to the Split party the weekend before which I thought was a nice note to leave this country on, so didn´t bother with the Lost gig. Mike. On 12/20/06, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks Ian, did any 313'ers make it to the show?
(313) Mills @ Lost
Did anyone go to see him @Lost last weekend? How was the show Londoners?
Re: (313) Mills @ Lost
http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18598 Did anyone go to see him @Lost last weekend? How was the show Londoners? -- www.midnightbeats.de www.tekknikexprimental.de www.kube72.com www.myspace.com/kubeseventy2
Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update
Last night, as I was watching the Octave One new Off The Grid dvd which is pretty slammin', I suddenly remembered hearing Mills dropping Chestnut's Pot Of Gold at the LA show. On Dec 11, 2006, at 2:58 PM, Wojtek wrote: On 12/1/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Around 4:30 AM he played ESG's Moody at about +8. It sounded very odd at that speed. Dunno if that's what you were referring to ... That's the track I was after, thanks! - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) What's amusing about it?
Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update
On 12/1/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Around 4:30 AM he played ESG's Moody at about +8. It sounded very odd at that speed. Dunno if that's what you were referring to ... That's the track I was after, thanks! - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) What's amusing about it?
Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update
Slowing things down, speeding them up, cutting almost all the sound out is amazing in the right hands. Hawtin can work it, as it were, but I like my minimalism served up more ornately. That's really lame that people suddenly liked the minimal techno when you told them it was deep house. It makes me think of that Frank Tovey line: the package is the prize. Would they have offered you free glowsticks and hair gel if you later told them it was progressive trance? On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 07:42:27AM -0800, Joel Gajewski wrote: LOL @ furniture music Sure, I suppose you are correct, too. And by no means am I saying that I don't appreciate what he is doing, but the emotion seems to be lacking sometimes. His tunes were always minimal-esque, even back before he kissed Sven Vath :p, but he seemed to slow things down, speed them up, cut almost all the sound out, during his sets. Now, his sets just kind of bump the whole way through. Perhaps I am stuck on his X-Mix and Mixmag cd's from a decade ago. I will say, after an attempt to not be a music snob, I checked out a two part mix of Sasha doing the Albelton thing and Rich's sets are far more interactive/interesting. Ugh, you can really tell why the whole progressive thing was never really progressive from the begining. I did try opening with some minimal the last time I played out and the party people were not feeling it at all, so I started to tell people that it was deep house and they loved it. :D Techno of any sort gets no love here. - Original Message From: darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2006 11:02:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update But isn't that part of the lure or Hawtin-styled minimalism that it works as subtle background-as-foreground music, aka furniture music? On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:18:10AM -0800, Joel Gajewski wrote: I think that this brings up a very strong point that I tend to discuss with other music geeks, like me. When is too much technical focus too much? It seems that Rich, while a great dj, seems to have focused on the technical aspect of his sets, whereas he used to really focus on the crowd and the track selection. He was never a bad dj, but his sets used to seem a bit more human, inspirational. Sure, Mills will wreck a few times, but he is always trying something new with the music, using that emotion as a catalyst. Plus, he usually has three records going at once, cutting between them in a frenzy, like a wizard :p. Just my .02. Joel
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Well, the I'm playing house line is kind of a joke around here because this town is full of sheep and very edm-centric, sticking to either house or dnb. Techno was forgotten a long time ago in these parts and somehow substituted with a DJ Irene residency :barf:. In any case, I tend to play a bit of everything, but when people ask I tell them that it's house and they will dance, however, if I say it's techno, then they'll ask me to play house. I have done two parties titled Say No To Techno and when I passed out flyers, people would respond, Thank God, I hate that stuff. If they actually knew their local dj's and read the roster, they would have realized that I booked Dionysos of Sonic Convergence and Phrenik of downlow to play. It's good times having fun with people. Yes, I probably would have been offered a light show, if I said that I was playing prog trance. lol - Original Message From: darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 11:25:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update Slowing things down, speeding them up, cutting almost all the sound out is amazing in the right hands. Hawtin can work it, as it were, but I like my minimalism served up more ornately. That's really lame that people suddenly liked the minimal techno when you told them it was deep house. It makes me think of that Frank Tovey line: the package is the prize. Would they have offered you free glowsticks and hair gel if you later told them it was progressive trance? On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 07:42:27AM -0800, Joel Gajewski wrote: LOL @ furniture music Sure, I suppose you are correct, too. And by no means am I saying that I don't appreciate what he is doing, but the emotion seems to be lacking sometimes. His tunes were always minimal-esque, even back before he kissed Sven Vath :p, but he seemed to slow things down, speed them up, cut almost all the sound out, during his sets. Now, his sets just kind of bump the whole way through. Perhaps I am stuck on his X-Mix and Mixmag cd's from a decade ago. I will say, after an attempt to not be a music snob, I checked out a two part mix of Sasha doing the Albelton thing and Rich's sets are far more interactive/interesting. Ugh, you can really tell why the whole progressive thing was never really progressive from the begining. I did try opening with some minimal the last time I played out and the party people were not feeling it at all, so I started to tell people that it was deep house and they loved it. :D Techno of any sort gets no love here. - Original Message From: darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2006 11:02:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update But isn't that part of the lure or Hawtin-styled minimalism that it works as subtle background-as-foreground music, aka furniture music? On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:18:10AM -0800, Joel Gajewski wrote: I think that this brings up a very strong point that I tend to discuss with other music geeks, like me. When is too much technical focus too much? It seems that Rich, while a great dj, seems to have focused on the technical aspect of his sets, whereas he used to really focus on the crowd and the track selection. He was never a bad dj, but his sets used to seem a bit more human, inspirational. Sure, Mills will wreck a few times, but he is always trying something new with the music, using that emotion as a catalyst. Plus, he usually has three records going at once, cutting between them in a frenzy, like a wizard :p. Just my .02. Joel
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On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 04:24:42PM -, Toby Frith wrote: He was incendiary that night, just like he was in his Golden period of '95 - '97. Lots of mistakes, but the energy was relentless. Techno by its very nature is rigid and fixed, and when someone like Mills adds that rough, human element, it takes it to another level. Hawtin by contrast just seems to be plotting a linear route. Yeah, Mills 95! those were the days... Reckon his gig in the July/95 Lost party under some arches. It was damn hot, water was condensing on the vinyl so the DJs could not hold/cue records properly (they actually had to hold the MKII plate!) and the stylus was jumping all the time, so the mix was getting to trainwrecks all the time... I was having fun with it because I could see how good and experienced Mills was, because he could fix the mix/beat matching in miliseconds after a jump, mostly without even cueing or cutting any of the channels... Oh, and he was also DJing with a reel-to-reel that day... Hawtin was playing as well. He was OK, played loads of acid, one of them as Misjah's Access with that endless drum-roll (which Hawtin mixed with a backspining record going faster and faster)... Anyway, I have a theory about Mill's mistakes: Sometimes he does it on purpose. To bring some human element to his sets... From all the sets I heard him play (probably half-a-dozen), those with the more mistakes were the best and/or the parties got the best atmosphere. Just my R$0.02. G -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD Sao Paulo, Brasil __
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But isn't that part of the lure or Hawtin-styled minimalism that it works as subtle background-as-foreground music, aka furniture music? On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:18:10AM -0800, Joel Gajewski wrote: I think that this brings up a very strong point that I tend to discuss with other music geeks, like me. When is too much technical focus too much? It seems that Rich, while a great dj, seems to have focused on the technical aspect of his sets, whereas he used to really focus on the crowd and the track selection. He was never a bad dj, but his sets used to seem a bit more human, inspirational. Sure, Mills will wreck a few times, but he is always trying something new with the music, using that emotion as a catalyst. Plus, he usually has three records going at once, cutting between them in a frenzy, like a wizard :p. Just my .02. Joel - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 9:33:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update I find alot of hard techno fans are overly concerned with the mechanics of a performance. Sure they're important, but those are quanitative things like the number of unprecise mixes or what the bitrate of the files were. When people focus on the aspects of a performance that are immediately measurable they often miss out on it's qualitative aspects. Things that separate an artist from an engineer. The engineer is concerned only with The small concrete part of the world he can put into a box and measure, ignoring the rest. The artist attempts to transcend the mechanical in the hopes of channelling a bit of that beautifully unmeasurable vastness that surrounds the immediate and concrete. To me that's what it means to be 'soulful' and play with emotion. I definetely did enjoy hawtin's set and the l'il louis I Called U acapella over spastik was a nice finish. Still I found myself bored and uninspired especially when compared to Mills. It just wasn't very funky and had little variation or risk. In my experience, Hawtin's pounder sets (though this one was less pounder-more minimal than when he came to SF two years ago) tend to inspire the sorts of people who would rather head bang than jack your body. I know Hawtin is a diverse performer but his formula the last three times I've seen him just doesn't do it for me. Quoting Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well even if you like Rich's sets these days, by their very nature, there's not much to say about them -- minimal innit? And if you don't like Rich's sets these days, the less said the better. On 12/1/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) I'll just quote Someone Else From Here's review, posted elsewhere: Rich was perfect. Even when he screwed up once. Played a lot of whoknowswhat that sounds like sh!t when other ppl play it, then at the end played Pullover, Spastik, bits of I Called U and Transition, some crazy new Carl Craig track. Killed it. Mills' first record was so dirty it wouldn't track. Then he trainwrecked some. Then he played The Bells. Transitions awful, EQ'ing painful, records you've heard 8,000 times. And I hate to say it but after 2.5 hrs of digital perfection from Richie, Jeff's records sounded terrible. He may have been pushing the mixer cuz I heard some clipping but overall the sound quality difference between he and Hawtin was remarkable. I couldn't be on the main floor when he was playing. But he was still pretty good. ;] Like I said - funny how different people can have different reactions to hearing exactly the same music ;) - Greg
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LOL @ furniture music Sure, I suppose you are correct, too. And by no means am I saying that I don't appreciate what he is doing, but the emotion seems to be lacking sometimes. His tunes were always minimal-esque, even back before he kissed Sven Vath :p, but he seemed to slow things down, speed them up, cut almost all the sound out, during his sets. Now, his sets just kind of bump the whole way through. Perhaps I am stuck on his X-Mix and Mixmag cd's from a decade ago. I will say, after an attempt to not be a music snob, I checked out a two part mix of Sasha doing the Albelton thing and Rich's sets are far more interactive/interesting. Ugh, you can really tell why the whole progressive thing was never really progressive from the begining. I did try opening with some minimal the last time I played out and the party people were not feeling it at all, so I started to tell people that it was deep house and they loved it. :D Techno of any sort gets no love here. - Original Message From: darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2006 11:02:25 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update But isn't that part of the lure or Hawtin-styled minimalism that it works as subtle background-as-foreground music, aka furniture music? On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:18:10AM -0800, Joel Gajewski wrote: I think that this brings up a very strong point that I tend to discuss with other music geeks, like me. When is too much technical focus too much? It seems that Rich, while a great dj, seems to have focused on the technical aspect of his sets, whereas he used to really focus on the crowd and the track selection. He was never a bad dj, but his sets used to seem a bit more human, inspirational. Sure, Mills will wreck a few times, but he is always trying something new with the music, using that emotion as a catalyst. Plus, he usually has three records going at once, cutting between them in a frenzy, like a wizard :p. Just my .02. Joel - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 9:33:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update I find alot of hard techno fans are overly concerned with the mechanics of a performance. Sure they're important, but those are quanitative things like the number of unprecise mixes or what the bitrate of the files were. When people focus on the aspects of a performance that are immediately measurable they often miss out on it's qualitative aspects. Things that separate an artist from an engineer. The engineer is concerned only with The small concrete part of the world he can put into a box and measure, ignoring the rest. The artist attempts to transcend the mechanical in the hopes of channelling a bit of that beautifully unmeasurable vastness that surrounds the immediate and concrete. To me that's what it means to be 'soulful' and play with emotion. I definetely did enjoy hawtin's set and the l'il louis I Called U acapella over spastik was a nice finish. Still I found myself bored and uninspired especially when compared to Mills. It just wasn't very funky and had little variation or risk. In my experience, Hawtin's pounder sets (though this one was less pounder-more minimal than when he came to SF two years ago) tend to inspire the sorts of people who would rather head bang than jack your body. I know Hawtin is a diverse performer but his formula the last three times I've seen him just doesn't do it for me. Quoting Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well even if you like Rich's sets these days, by their very nature, there's not much to say about them -- minimal innit? And if you don't like Rich's sets these days, the less said the better. On 12/1/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) I'll just quote Someone Else From Here's review, posted elsewhere: Rich was perfect. Even when he screwed up once. Played a lot of whoknowswhat that sounds like sh!t when other ppl play it, then at the end played Pullover, Spastik, bits of I Called U and Transition, some crazy new Carl Craig track. Killed it. Mills' first record was so dirty it wouldn't track. Then he trainwrecked some. Then he played The Bells. Transitions awful, EQ'ing painful, records you've heard 8,000 times. And I hate to say it but after 2.5 hrs of digital perfection from Richie, Jeff's records sounded terrible. He may have been pushing the mixer cuz I heard some clipping but overall the sound quality difference between he and Hawtin was remarkable. I couldn't be on the main floor when he was playing. But he was still pretty good. ;] Like I said - funny
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Be careful when extrapolating from limited experience. Clipping is one source of distortion, but not the only possibility. The definition of clipping is simple: it occurs when an amplifier output voltage would be higher than the input voltage. The signal waveform is clipped so that the output voltage is no greater than the input. Most audio amps are Class A or AB and won't clip except under extreme conditions. But radio frequency (RF) amps have many different designs. Class A (linear amplifiers) have relatively low efficiency but as with audio amps generally don't clip unless excessively overdriven. Not so with Class B and C. By definition these amps have clipping all the time, but they are used for modes (CW or Morse Code, frequency-shift keying, etc.) where it is not critical to have a pure waveform. The gains in throughput power are considered worth the tradeoff. Class B designs are basically lab-only curiosities, but Class C used to be fairly widespread in ham radio before the advent of the linear amplifier boom in the 1960s. (Actually most ham amps are Class AB2 cathode-driven a/k/a grounded grid where clipping can occur if the amp is improperly tuned). The whole trick with Class C operation was to maximize output while keeping the clipping from causing undue distortion and interference. In my CW op days I used a couple Class C amps (known fondly as boat anchors because of the size of the old gear). Here's one I used a few times, the Viking Courier, which could operate in Class A for voice or Class C for CW: http://www.qsl.net/la5ki/org/vi/cou.htm The advent of a new generation of tubes like the 3-500Z in the 1960s and the decline in CW-only stations led to the practical demise of Class C, although it is now undergoing a boom in a completely different context for digital transmission modes. fh - On 12/5/06, Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difference is with the waveform. Compression/distortion is not (...really) the same as clipping. And generally speaking, they're recognized as being the result of a lack of analogue or digital overhead respectively. You can call it what you want, and in extreme cases of compression, you can get that square wave form (clips), but it'll never sound the same and that's the real reason for the distinction. exactly, ive never heard any analogue signal clip in anything like the way of just overdriving the signal into your computer will. by the time your analogue signal got that high, it would probably just sound like white noise anyway. tmo
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DM PHRED! That's the knowledge of old right there. I love getting good info like that. And you even shot the photo! Class dismissed. Hahahaha. That was great. k -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 4:10 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: [ok] Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update Be careful when extrapolating from limited experience. Clipping is one source of distortion, but not the only possibility. The definition of clipping is simple: it occurs when an amplifier output voltage would be higher than the input voltage. The signal waveform is clipped so that the output voltage is no greater than the input. Most audio amps are Class A or AB and won't clip except under extreme conditions. But radio frequency (RF) amps have many different designs. Class A (linear amplifiers) have relatively low efficiency but as with audio amps generally don't clip unless excessively overdriven. Not so with Class B and C. By definition these amps have clipping all the time, but they are used for modes (CW or Morse Code, frequency-shift keying, etc.) where it is not critical to have a pure waveform. The gains in throughput power are considered worth the tradeoff. Class B designs are basically lab-only curiosities, but Class C used to be fairly widespread in ham radio before the advent of the linear amplifier boom in the 1960s. (Actually most ham amps are Class AB2 cathode-driven a/k/a grounded grid where clipping can occur if the amp is improperly tuned). The whole trick with Class C operation was to maximize output while keeping the clipping from causing undue distortion and interference. In my CW op days I used a couple Class C amps (known fondly as boat anchors because of the size of the old gear). Here's one I used a few times, the Viking Courier, which could operate in Class A for voice or Class C for CW: http://www.qsl.net/la5ki/org/vi/cou.htm The advent of a new generation of tubes like the 3-500Z in the 1960s and the decline in CW-only stations led to the practical demise of Class C, although it is now undergoing a boom in a completely different context for digital transmission modes. fh - On 12/5/06, Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difference is with the waveform. Compression/distortion is not (...really) the same as clipping. And generally speaking, they're recognized as being the result of a lack of analogue or digital overhead respectively. You can call it what you want, and in extreme cases of compression, you can get that square wave form (clips), but it'll never sound the same and that's the real reason for the distinction. exactly, ive never heard any analogue signal clip in anything like the way of just overdriving the signal into your computer will. by the time your analogue signal got that high, it would probably just sound like white noise anyway. tmo
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Seriously, I need this: Be careful when extrapolating from limited experience. On a t-shirt with techno lives on the back. I know I'm a geek because that post got me really excited and I'm not trying to find out more about ham radio even though I have absolutely no intention of getting/using one. I'm rambling. Sorry. Hahahahahahaha! K mwnb -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 4:10 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: [ok] Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update Be careful when extrapolating from limited experience. Clipping is one source of distortion, but not the only possibility. The definition of clipping is simple: it occurs when an amplifier output voltage would be higher than the input voltage. The signal waveform is clipped so that the output voltage is no greater than the input. Most audio amps are Class A or AB and won't clip except under extreme conditions. But radio frequency (RF) amps have many different designs. Class A (linear amplifiers) have relatively low efficiency but as with audio amps generally don't clip unless excessively overdriven. Not so with Class B and C. By definition these amps have clipping all the time, but they are used for modes (CW or Morse Code, frequency-shift keying, etc.) where it is not critical to have a pure waveform. The gains in throughput power are considered worth the tradeoff. Class B designs are basically lab-only curiosities, but Class C used to be fairly widespread in ham radio before the advent of the linear amplifier boom in the 1960s. (Actually most ham amps are Class AB2 cathode-driven a/k/a grounded grid where clipping can occur if the amp is improperly tuned). The whole trick with Class C operation was to maximize output while keeping the clipping from causing undue distortion and interference. In my CW op days I used a couple Class C amps (known fondly as boat anchors because of the size of the old gear). Here's one I used a few times, the Viking Courier, which could operate in Class A for voice or Class C for CW: http://www.qsl.net/la5ki/org/vi/cou.htm The advent of a new generation of tubes like the 3-500Z in the 1960s and the decline in CW-only stations led to the practical demise of Class C, although it is now undergoing a boom in a completely different context for digital transmission modes. fh - On 12/5/06, Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difference is with the waveform. Compression/distortion is not (...really) the same as clipping. And generally speaking, they're recognized as being the result of a lack of analogue or digital overhead respectively. You can call it what you want, and in extreme cases of compression, you can get that square wave form (clips), but it'll never sound the same and that's the real reason for the distinction. exactly, ive never heard any analogue signal clip in anything like the way of just overdriving the signal into your computer will. by the time your analogue signal got that high, it would probably just sound like white noise anyway. tmo
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kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well even if you like Rich's sets these days, by their very nature, there's not much to say about them -- minimal innit? And if you don't like Rich's sets these days, the less said the better. On 12/1/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) I'll just quote Someone Else From Here's review, posted elsewhere: Rich was perfect. Even when he screwed up once. Played a lot of whoknowswhat that sounds like sh!t when other ppl play it, then at the end played Pullover, Spastik, bits of I Called U and Transition, some crazy new Carl Craig track. Killed it. Mills' first record was so dirty it wouldn't track. Then he trainwrecked some. Then he played The Bells. Transitions awful, EQ'ing painful, records you've heard 8,000 times. And I hate to say it but after 2.5 hrs of digital perfection from Richie, Jeff's records sounded terrible. He may have been pushing the mixer cuz I heard some clipping but overall the sound quality difference between he and Hawtin was remarkable. I couldn't be on the main floor when he was playing. But he was still pretty good. ;] Like I said - funny how different people can have different reactions to hearing exactly the same music ;) - Greg
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I find alot of hard techno fans are overly concerned with the mechanics of a performance. Sure they're important, but those are quanitative things like the number of unprecise mixes or what the bitrate of the files were. When people focus on the aspects of a performance that are immediately measurable they often miss out on it's qualitative aspects. Things that separate an artist from an engineer. The engineer is concerned only with The small concrete part of the world he can put into a box and measure, ignoring the rest. The artist attempts to transcend the mechanical in the hopes of channelling a bit of that beautifully unmeasurable vastness that surrounds the immediate and concrete. To me that's what it means to be 'soulful' and play with emotion. I definetely did enjoy hawtin's set and the l'il louis I Called U acapella over spastik was a nice finish. Still I found myself bored and uninspired especially when compared to Mills. It just wasn't very funky and had little variation or risk. In my experience, Hawtin's pounder sets (though this one was less pounder-more minimal than when he came to SF two years ago) tend to inspire the sorts of people who would rather head bang than jack your body. I know Hawtin is a diverse performer but his formula the last three times I've seen him just doesn't do it for me. Quoting Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well even if you like Rich's sets these days, by their very nature, there's not much to say about them -- minimal innit? And if you don't like Rich's sets these days, the less said the better. On 12/1/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) I'll just quote Someone Else From Here's review, posted elsewhere: Rich was perfect. Even when he screwed up once. Played a lot of whoknowswhat that sounds like sh!t when other ppl play it, then at the end played Pullover, Spastik, bits of I Called U and Transition, some crazy new Carl Craig track. Killed it. Mills' first record was so dirty it wouldn't track. Then he trainwrecked some. Then he played The Bells. Transitions awful, EQ'ing painful, records you've heard 8,000 times. And I hate to say it but after 2.5 hrs of digital perfection from Richie, Jeff's records sounded terrible. He may have been pushing the mixer cuz I heard some clipping but overall the sound quality difference between he and Hawtin was remarkable. I couldn't be on the main floor when he was playing. But he was still pretty good. ;] Like I said - funny how different people can have different reactions to hearing exactly the same music ;) - Greg
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i'm Someone Else From Here. i'm also someone who could care less if the mix is perfect if the vibe is there. i'm all for seeing jeff (or d. wynn or practically anyone from detroit) cue and correct in the mix... slam it in there and make it work. just make the walls and collective butts shake while doing so. since this review has grown legs maybe i would have reconsidered using the word 'perfect'. it's not that rich was so mechanically perfect. i don't care about that. it's that once jeff got on i realized how bad the audio was. now a lot of people (including some close friends... ;)) are probably going to want to give me sh!t for being a pro-digital person. and while i sorta am, that's not what i mean. whatever was going on with jeff clipping the sound system, some very dirty records, some badly fumbled mixes and ear-splitting EQ choices, all the air went out of the party for me. i love watching jeff and i agree with a lot of what was said about rich (tho i wil reiterate that he still has that richie hawtin way of making a terrible record interesting). it's not that a sample rate or whizbang widget wasn't up to snuff; it's that this night jeff and i didn't click and that IMO he's had far better nights. ps. - thanks for the capitalization fixes, greg. :P On Dec 4, 2006, at 7:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find alot of hard techno fans are overly concerned with the mechanics of a performance. Sure they're important, but those are quanitative things like the number of unprecise mixes or what the bitrate of the files were. When people focus on the aspects of a performance that are immediately measurable they often miss out on it's qualitative aspects. Things that separate an artist from an engineer. The engineer is concerned only with The small concrete part of the world he can put into a box and measure, ignoring the rest. The artist attempts to transcend the mechanical in the hopes of channelling a bit of that beautifully unmeasurable vastness that surrounds the immediate and concrete. To me that's what it means to be 'soulful' and play with emotion. I definetely did enjoy hawtin's set and the l'il louis I Called U acapella over spastik was a nice finish. Still I found myself bored and uninspired especially when compared to Mills. It just wasn't very funky and had little variation or risk. In my experience, Hawtin's pounder sets (though this one was less pounder-more minimal than when he came to SF two years ago) tend to inspire the sorts of people who would rather head bang than jack your body. I know Hawtin is a diverse performer but his formula the last three times I've seen him just doesn't do it for me. Quoting Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well even if you like Rich's sets these days, by their very nature, there's not much to say about them -- minimal innit? And if you don't like Rich's sets these days, the less said the better. On 12/1/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) I'll just quote Someone Else From Here's review, posted elsewhere: Rich was perfect. Even when he screwed up once. Played a lot of whoknowswhat that sounds like sh!t when other ppl play it, then at the end played Pullover, Spastik, bits of I Called U and Transition, some crazy new Carl Craig track. Killed it. Mills' first record was so dirty it wouldn't track. Then he trainwrecked some. Then he played The Bells. Transitions awful, EQ'ing painful, records you've heard 8,000 times. And I hate to say it but after 2.5 hrs of digital perfection from Richie, Jeff's records sounded terrible. He may have been pushing the mixer cuz I heard some clipping but overall the sound quality difference between he and Hawtin was remarkable. I couldn't be on the main floor when he was playing. But he was still pretty good. ;] Like I said - funny how different people can have different reactions to hearing exactly the same music ;) - Greg
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On 12/4/06, Garrett McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: whatever was going on with jeff clipping the sound system how does one clip a sound system with analogue records? only digital signals clip. tom
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That explains the clip light on old analog mixers. On Dec 5, 2006, at 10:56, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 12/4/06, Garrett McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: whatever was going on with jeff clipping the sound system how does one clip a sound system with analogue records? only digital signals clip. tom -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 12/5/06, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That explains the clip light on old analog mixers. i dont want to get into the semantics of it. you can overdrive an analogue amplifier, you cant clip it. clipping refers to the boxing off of peaks of a digital waveform. if you want to understand it further, wikipedia.org is your friend. tom
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On Dec 5, 2006, at 11:01, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: if you want to understand it further, wikipedia.org is your friend. tom Errr, did you read the wikipedia article on audio clipping? It sez: In analogue audio equipment, there are three common causes of clipping. and mentions digital clipping as a special case. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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No analogue signals do too. They tend to do it in a more progressive way where digital signals clip very abruptly but any system is going to have a maximum level which you can't exceed (otherwise we could just use tiny analogue amps and turn them up to 11 or 111 and get huge outputs!). -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 15:56 On 12/4/06, Garrett McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: whatever was going on with jeff clipping the sound system how does one clip a sound system with analogue records? only digital signals clip.
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I think that this brings up a very strong point that I tend to discuss with other music geeks, like me. When is too much technical focus too much? It seems that Rich, while a great dj, seems to have focused on the technical aspect of his sets, whereas he used to really focus on the crowd and the track selection. He was never a bad dj, but his sets used to seem a bit more human, inspirational. Sure, Mills will wreck a few times, but he is always trying something new with the music, using that emotion as a catalyst. Plus, he usually has three records going at once, cutting between them in a frenzy, like a wizard :p. Just my .02. Joel - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 9:33:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update I find alot of hard techno fans are overly concerned with the mechanics of a performance. Sure they're important, but those are quanitative things like the number of unprecise mixes or what the bitrate of the files were. When people focus on the aspects of a performance that are immediately measurable they often miss out on it's qualitative aspects. Things that separate an artist from an engineer. The engineer is concerned only with The small concrete part of the world he can put into a box and measure, ignoring the rest. The artist attempts to transcend the mechanical in the hopes of channelling a bit of that beautifully unmeasurable vastness that surrounds the immediate and concrete. To me that's what it means to be 'soulful' and play with emotion. I definetely did enjoy hawtin's set and the l'il louis I Called U acapella over spastik was a nice finish. Still I found myself bored and uninspired especially when compared to Mills. It just wasn't very funky and had little variation or risk. In my experience, Hawtin's pounder sets (though this one was less pounder-more minimal than when he came to SF two years ago) tend to inspire the sorts of people who would rather head bang than jack your body. I know Hawtin is a diverse performer but his formula the last three times I've seen him just doesn't do it for me. Quoting Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well even if you like Rich's sets these days, by their very nature, there's not much to say about them -- minimal innit? And if you don't like Rich's sets these days, the less said the better. On 12/1/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) I'll just quote Someone Else From Here's review, posted elsewhere: Rich was perfect. Even when he screwed up once. Played a lot of whoknowswhat that sounds like sh!t when other ppl play it, then at the end played Pullover, Spastik, bits of I Called U and Transition, some crazy new Carl Craig track. Killed it. Mills' first record was so dirty it wouldn't track. Then he trainwrecked some. Then he played The Bells. Transitions awful, EQ'ing painful, records you've heard 8,000 times. And I hate to say it but after 2.5 hrs of digital perfection from Richie, Jeff's records sounded terrible. He may have been pushing the mixer cuz I heard some clipping but overall the sound quality difference between he and Hawtin was remarkable. I couldn't be on the main floor when he was playing. But he was still pretty good. ;] Like I said - funny how different people can have different reactions to hearing exactly the same music ;) - Greg
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On Dec 5, 2006, at 11:18, Joel Gajewski wrote: When is too much technical focus too much? When we all argue about what clipping is when we all knew what the guy was talking about. (you can't spell geek without an EE) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The difference is with the waveform. Compression/distortion is not (...really) the same as clipping. And generally speaking, they're recognized as being the result of a lack of analogue or digital overhead respectively. You can call it what you want, and in extreme cases of compression, you can get that square wave form (clips), but it'll never sound the same and that's the real reason for the distinction. K mwnb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:12 AM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: FW: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update No analogue signals do too. They tend to do it in a more progressive way where digital signals clip very abruptly but any system is going to have a maximum level which you can't exceed (otherwise we could just use tiny analogue amps and turn them up to 11 or 111 and get huge outputs!). -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 15:56 On 12/4/06, Garrett McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: whatever was going on with jeff clipping the sound system how does one clip a sound system with analogue records? only digital signals clip.
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With Mills, it has always been, and always will be about the fact that at any time it feels like everything is going to fall apart at any second. I saw him last year in August 2005 at Lost, and many of the people with me thought he was terrible, because he wasn't tight. Yawn. He was incendiary that night, just like he was in his Golden period of '95 - '97. Lots of mistakes, but the energy was relentless. Techno by its very nature is rigid and fixed, and when someone like Mills adds that rough, human element, it takes it to another level. Hawtin by contrast just seems to be plotting a linear route. -Original Message- From: Joel Gajewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 16:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update I think that this brings up a very strong point that I tend to discuss with other music geeks, like me. When is too much technical focus too much? It seems that Rich, while a great dj, seems to have focused on the technical aspect of his sets, whereas he used to really focus on the crowd and the track selection. He was never a bad dj, but his sets used to seem a bit more human, inspirational. Sure, Mills will wreck a few times, but he is always trying something new with the music, using that emotion as a catalyst. Plus, he usually has three records going at once, cutting between them in a frenzy, like a wizard :p. Just my .02. Joel - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 9:33:59 PM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update I find alot of hard techno fans are overly concerned with the mechanics of a performance. Sure they're important, but those are quanitative things like the number of unprecise mixes or what the bitrate of the files were. When people focus on the aspects of a performance that are immediately measurable they often miss out on it's qualitative aspects. Things that separate an artist from an engineer. The engineer is concerned only with The small concrete part of the world he can put into a box and measure, ignoring the rest. The artist attempts to transcend the mechanical in the hopes of channelling a bit of that beautifully unmeasurable vastness that surrounds the immediate and concrete. To me that's what it means to be 'soulful' and play with emotion. I definetely did enjoy hawtin's set and the l'il louis I Called U acapella over spastik was a nice finish. Still I found myself bored and uninspired especially when compared to Mills. It just wasn't very funky and had little variation or risk. In my experience, Hawtin's pounder sets (though this one was less pounder-more minimal than when he came to SF two years ago) tend to inspire the sorts of people who would rather head bang than jack your body. I know Hawtin is a diverse performer but his formula the last three times I've seen him just doesn't do it for me. Quoting Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well even if you like Rich's sets these days, by their very nature, there's not much to say about them -- minimal innit? And if you don't like Rich's sets these days, the less said the better. On 12/1/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) I'll just quote Someone Else From Here's review, posted elsewhere: Rich was perfect. Even when he screwed up once. Played a lot of whoknowswhat that sounds like sh!t when other ppl play it, then at the end played Pullover, Spastik, bits of I Called U and Transition, some crazy new Carl Craig track. Killed it. Mills' first record was so dirty it wouldn't track. Then he trainwrecked some. Then he played The Bells. Transitions awful, EQ'ing painful, records you've heard 8,000 times. And I hate to say it but after 2.5 hrs of digital perfection from Richie, Jeff's records sounded terrible. He may have been pushing the mixer cuz I heard some clipping but overall the sound quality difference between he and Hawtin was remarkable. I couldn't be on the main floor when he was playing. But he was still pretty good. ;] Like I said - funny how different people can have different reactions to hearing exactly the same music ;) - Greg For ball-by-ball coverage, instant match reports and analysis follow the Ashes at www.telegraph.co.uk/ashes This e-mail is from Telegraph Media Group Limited - 111 Buckingham Palace Road, London, SW1W 0DT registered in England under No 451593. This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private and confidential. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Neither
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Hahahaha! lol. True. Sorry, geek. The last time I saw Mills was on Thanksgiving in 2001 (?), but it was amazing. Some of his mixes faltered, but the energy was unreal. He was slamming techno anthem after anthem, then around 3am or 4am he killed it with a Mills' backspin that shreaded the room and the old tv announcement, It's 11 o'clock, do you know where your children are? played into Flash. Good stuff. - Original Message From: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2006 10:19:17 AM Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update On Dec 5, 2006, at 11:18, Joel Gajewski wrote: When is too much technical focus too much? When we all argue about what clipping is when we all knew what the guy was talking about. (you can't spell geek without an EE) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/05/2006 10:24:42 AM: Techno by its very nature is rigid and fixed, and when someone like Mills adds that rough, human element, it takes it to another level. Hawtin by contrast just seems to be plotting a linear route. I wish that techno hadn't become so rigid and fixed (at least it's not as grid like as Trance is). Early techno didn't seem that way basically because the technology either wasn't there or wasn't affordable. I think that's why I get so bored with Hawtin and other minimal stuff. There's a local radio station that plays it ever Saturday evening. You could tune in for a ffew minutes in the beginning, middle, and end and you wouldn't notice much progression. The beat will be the same - oh! but the mix will be s tight that you might not notice when the crossfader has gone from left to right and back again. I can't stand listening to the show. Is that what djing is now? MEK
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Someone get me my cane - I think those teenagers are on my lawn again! ;-) MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/05/2006 11:26:27 AM: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/05/2006 10:24:42 AM: Techno by its very nature is rigid and fixed, and when someone like Mills adds that rough, human element, it takes it to another level. Hawtin by contrast just seems to be plotting a linear route. I wish that techno hadn't become so rigid and fixed (at least it's not as grid like as Trance is). Early techno didn't seem that way basically because the technology either wasn't there or wasn't affordable. I think that's why I get so bored with Hawtin and other minimal stuff. There's a local radio station that plays it ever Saturday evening. You could tune in for a ffew minutes in the beginning, middle, and end and you wouldn't notice much progression. The beat will be the same - oh! but the mix will be s tight that you might not notice when the crossfader has gone from left to right and back again. I can't stand listening to the show. Is that what djing is now? MEK
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On 12/5/06, Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difference is with the waveform. Compression/distortion is not (...really) the same as clipping. And generally speaking, they're recognized as being the result of a lack of analogue or digital overhead respectively. You can call it what you want, and in extreme cases of compression, you can get that square wave form (clips), but it'll never sound the same and that's the real reason for the distinction. exactly, ive never heard any analogue signal clip in anything like the way of just overdriving the signal into your computer will. by the time your analogue signal got that high, it would probably just sound like white noise anyway. tmo
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Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, if someone could only ID the track he played that has early '80's-sounding, almost disco-like female vocals (not the Wee papa Girls one) and a slowed down, Chaka Khan like melody/bassline... have you checked his inspirations mix thats floating about on the net? it could be something that he played on there, its mostly disco stuff... I did, and it's none of those unfortunately :( It might be the female vocal from Chip E.'s Like This, but I have yet to hear the whole track... Around 4:30 AM he played ESG's Moody at about +8. It sounded very odd at that speed. Dunno if that's what you were referring to ... As for the rest of what he played, it's interesting to see how different people react differently to hearing the same music ;) Of course, that night was more of a social night for me than anything (too many (313)'ers past present there - me, Fixer, gm, Yussel, DorisNonWoo, DJ Horsepower among others - to pay close attention to Mills' set), so trainspotting was not the order of the day for me. And I'm spoiled by seeing Mills in Barcelona at Moog back in June, where he played a brilliant all-over-the-map set (lots of House, some Tech-House, Midnight Express, you name it) that really kept me engaged. - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set)
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-Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 December 2006 02:25 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) Spill the beans! This Mills + Hawtin thread hasn't had nearly enough flames yet. ;) Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.3/562 - Release Date: 01/12/2006 13:12
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On Dec 1, 2006, at 6:25 PM, Greg Earle wrote: - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set) =)
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Well even if you like Rich's sets these days, by their very nature, there's not much to say about them -- minimal innit? And if you don't like Rich's sets these days, the less said the better. On 12/1/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Greg (Who - along with several list lurkers - is amused that nothing was said about Rich's set)
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Original Message Subject: Re: (313) Mills' Last Weekend Tracklist Update From:Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Thu, November 30, 2006 2:41 am To: 313@hyperreal.org -- He also has a compilation l.p. out on Azuli with his all time classic favorites on it. Has Denroy Morgan, geraldine hunt, jackie noore etc etc. really good. Might help. Anthony On 11/29/06, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Wiz also played Shades of Jae in LA, along with The Man With the red Face those are two of my all time favorite tracks. man, i would have loved to have been there for these sets. Now, if someone could only ID the track he played that has early '80's-sounding, almost disco-like female vocals (not the Wee papa Girls one) and a slowed down, Chaka Khan like melody/bassline... have you checked his inspirations mix thats floating about on the net? it could be something that he played on there, its mostly disco stuff... tom
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On 11/29/06, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Wiz also played Shades of Jae in LA, along with The Man With the red Face those are two of my all time favorite tracks. man, i would have loved to have been there for these sets. Now, if someone could only ID the track he played that has early '80's-sounding, almost disco-like female vocals (not the Wee papa Girls one) and a slowed down, Chaka Khan like melody/bassline... have you checked his inspirations mix thats floating about on the net? it could be something that he played on there, its mostly disco stuff... tom
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He actually closed the LA show with The man with the Red Face, and right towards the very end of the track he faded in a little ambient pad-like track with looped and delayed vinyl crackles over it, which I thought was a nice finish. His incorporation of pioneer CDJs really makes me think of the reel-to-reels of old, when djs would play their own versions of tracks along with the vinyl... Just like the ping-pong-like sounding track--which I'm guessing is one of his own--he played over a few tracks throughout the night. On 11/29/06, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: those are two of my all time favorite tracks. man, i would have loved to have been there for these sets. Now, if someone could only ID the track he played that has early '80's-sounding, almost disco-like female vocals (not the Wee papa Girls one) and a slowed down, Chaka Khan like melody/bassline... have you checked his inspirations mix thats floating about on the net? it could be something that he played on there, its mostly disco stuff... I did, and it's none of those unfortunately :( It might be the female vocal from Chip E.'s Like This, but I have yet to hear the whole track... tom
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Man, I have trouble going north of the river to go clubbing Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 November 2006 09:28 To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: FW: (313) Mills! Ah you stateside folks and your hardiness to distances - it's only as an occasional expedition us Europeans are going to travel 400 miles to a gig and back but to do it 2 nights running to see the same artist!!! -Original Message- From: Wojtek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] same here... driving 800 miles in two days took its toll on me it was definitely worth it though!! :) On 11/28/06, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the Wizard killed it this past weekend, in one of his few stateside appearances, both of which happened to be within driving distance of where I live # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Great review Wojtek. Makes me jealous that I didn't make it to the San Fran show. =) On Nov 28, 2006, at 3:42 PM, Wojtek wrote: So the Wizard killed it this past weekend, in one of his few stateside appearances, both of which happened to be within driving distance of where I live. His three-and-a-half hour show in LA started with the fast-paced Call of the Wild, and continued with other pacey techno tracks, with a nice sprinkling of a few of tracks from Minimal Nation for good measure. About a third of the way into his set, Jeff started playing various classics and old school goodies. As Marina said before me, he played Work it To the Bone, Chip E.'s stuff, and then, he started playing Detroit classics! After he transitioned into playing the older tracks, he dropped Reese and Santonio's How to Play Our Music and the place went wild! He then went on to jam on the 909 for a bit, and continued with obscure acid and early Detroit techno. One of the highlights of the Detroit part of his set was the way he programmed a slightly syncopated 909 beat and blended X-Ray's Let's Go into it and kept the two going for the duration of the track! In that night's show alone I heard more Detroit classics than all of the other Detroit dj's I've heard combined! (yes, he dropped Strings of Life and Jaguar, too, the timing of which worked very well, though). It truly was an enjoyable show for anyone who's into the harder side of techno, and definitely a treat for anyone who enjoys classic Detroit techno, made even more enjoyable by the fact that he played late 80's Chicago acid alongside some New York house classics like the above mentioned Work It to the Bone and an instrumental version of Searchin' on Nu Groove, for added musical context. If all those Detroit and Chicago classics weren't enough, he also played a a version of Basic Channel's Phylyps Trak (the track called Axis, on the Phylyps Trak ep) alongside the more straight ahead techno, and that had just sealed the deal for me as probably the best techno show I've ever seen; along with Mills' next day appearance a few hundred miles up the road in San Francisco. His saturday gig was also on point. He played the 909 live (again), along with a little sample he played off a cd that sounded like a repeating ping-pong noise (which he also incorporated into the set he played the night before). He layered that over the somewhat minimal, introspective, or just plain old Mills-y-sounding tracks at a few points throughout the evening, to a good effect. Now, just to keep us old school Detroit fans happy, he even dropped Derrick May's Wiggin' (in its original version, alongside the New York and Chicago classics he played the previous night) before moving on to the harder Tresor stuff; however, the classics focus that night was definitely on the Tresor side of the Berlin-Detroit connection. He played quite a few tracks from the x-102 and x-103 albums, a few Rob Hood tracks, and towards the end he even dropped Maurizio's hard-as-nails Ploy, which to me was the summit of the evening, making the the energy at the venue feel like what I would imagine the old Tresor club in its heyday to have felt like. A few tracks from Minimal Nation were there too--just like during his LA show, and the musical selection was kept current by some newer techno tracks by Sleeparchive and a Joris Voorn track (from the newer tracks that I recognized). Apparently he also did something amazing with a Basic Channel track at the SF show, but I got there too late to witness it. I don't know if these two shows are representative of how Mills plays now, but if he usually plays with this much intensity, creativity and variety nowadays (as opposed to some of his recorded minimal/loopy techno sets I've heard in the past), then he has my vote as the world's best techno DJ/live act (oh, the live 909 action...) These were by far the best techno shows I've experienced. Wojtek P.S. For those interested, he has a new album coming out in January On 11/26/06, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mills ROCKED IT in both LA and SF this weekend!!It really was a techno lovers'/313ers' heaven at both shows. A longer review will follow. Wojtek
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too much fun. i'm still reeling from it. :::sigh::: LOL On Nov 28, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: shet. these sound like way too much fun! tom On 11/28/06, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the Wizard killed it this past weekend, in one of his few stateside appearances, both of which happened to be within driving distance of where I live. His three-and-a-half hour show in LA started with the fast-paced Call of the Wild, and continued with other pacey techno tracks, with a nice sprinkling of a few of tracks from Minimal Nation for good measure. About a third of the way into his set, Jeff started playing various classics and old school goodies. As Marina said before me, he played Work it To the Bone, Chip E.'s stuff, and then, he started playing Detroit classics! After he transitioned into playing the older tracks, he dropped Reese and Santonio's How to Play Our Music and the place went wild! He then went on to jam on the 909 for a bit, and continued with obscure acid and early Detroit techno. One of the highlights of the Detroit part of his set was the way he programmed a slightly syncopated 909 beat and blended X-Ray's Let's Go into it and kept the two going for the duration of the track! In that night's show alone I heard more Detroit classics than all of the other Detroit dj's I've heard combined! (yes, he dropped Strings of Life and Jaguar, too, the timing of which worked very well, though). It truly was an enjoyable show for anyone who's into the harder side of techno, and definitely a treat for anyone who enjoys classic Detroit techno, made even more enjoyable by the fact that he played late 80's Chicago acid alongside some New York house classics like the above mentioned Work It to the Bone and an instrumental version of Searchin' on Nu Groove, for added musical context. If all those Detroit and Chicago classics weren't enough, he also played a a version of Basic Channel's Phylyps Trak (the track called Axis, on the Phylyps Trak ep) alongside the more straight ahead techno, and that had just sealed the deal for me as probably the best techno show I've ever seen; along with Mills' next day appearance a few hundred miles up the road in San Francisco. His saturday gig was also on point. He played the 909 live (again), along with a little sample he played off a cd that sounded like a repeating ping-pong noise (which he also incorporated into the set he played the night before). He layered that over the somewhat minimal, introspective, or just plain old Mills-y-sounding tracks at a few points throughout the evening, to a good effect. Now, just to keep us old school Detroit fans happy, he even dropped Derrick May's Wiggin' (in its original version, alongside the New York and Chicago classics he played the previous night) before moving on to the harder Tresor stuff; however, the classics focus that night was definitely on the Tresor side of the Berlin-Detroit connection. He played quite a few tracks from the x-102 and x-103 albums, a few Rob Hood tracks, and towards the end he even dropped Maurizio's hard-as-nails Ploy, which to me was the summit of the evening, making the the energy at the venue feel like what I would imagine the old Tresor club in its heyday to have felt like. A few tracks from Minimal Nation were there too--just like during his LA show, and the musical selection was kept current by some newer techno tracks by Sleeparchive and a Joris Voorn track (from the newer tracks that I recognized). Apparently he also did something amazing with a Basic Channel track at the SF show, but I got there too late to witness it. I don't know if these two shows are representative of how Mills plays now, but if he usually plays with this much intensity, creativity and variety nowadays (as opposed to some of his recorded minimal/loopy techno sets I've heard in the past), then he has my vote as the world's best techno DJ/live act (oh, the live 909 action...) These were by far the best techno shows I've experienced. Wojtek P.S. For those interested, he has a new album coming out in January On 11/26/06, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mills ROCKED IT in both LA and SF this weekend!!It really was a techno lovers'/313ers' heaven at both shows. A longer review will follow. Wojtek
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same here... driving 800 miles in two days took its toll on me it was definitely worth it though!! :) On 11/28/06, marina pure sonik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: too much fun. i'm still reeling from it. :::sigh::: LOL On Nov 28, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: shet. these sound like way too much fun! tom On 11/28/06, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the Wizard killed it this past weekend, in one of his few stateside appearances, both of which happened to be within driving distance of where I live. His three-and-a-half hour show in LA started with the fast-paced Call of the Wild, and continued with other pacey techno tracks, with a nice sprinkling of a few of tracks from Minimal Nation for good measure. About a third of the way into his set, Jeff started playing various classics and old school goodies. As Marina said before me, he played Work it To the Bone, Chip E.'s stuff, and then, he started playing Detroit classics! After he transitioned into playing the older tracks, he dropped Reese and Santonio's How to Play Our Music and the place went wild! He then went on to jam on the 909 for a bit, and continued with obscure acid and early Detroit techno. One of the highlights of the Detroit part of his set was the way he programmed a slightly syncopated 909 beat and blended X-Ray's Let's Go into it and kept the two going for the duration of the track! In that night's show alone I heard more Detroit classics than all of the other Detroit dj's I've heard combined! (yes, he dropped Strings of Life and Jaguar, too, the timing of which worked very well, though). It truly was an enjoyable show for anyone who's into the harder side of techno, and definitely a treat for anyone who enjoys classic Detroit techno, made even more enjoyable by the fact that he played late 80's Chicago acid alongside some New York house classics like the above mentioned Work It to the Bone and an instrumental version of Searchin' on Nu Groove, for added musical context. If all those Detroit and Chicago classics weren't enough, he also played a a version of Basic Channel's Phylyps Trak (the track called Axis, on the Phylyps Trak ep) alongside the more straight ahead techno, and that had just sealed the deal for me as probably the best techno show I've ever seen; along with Mills' next day appearance a few hundred miles up the road in San Francisco. His saturday gig was also on point. He played the 909 live (again), along with a little sample he played off a cd that sounded like a repeating ping-pong noise (which he also incorporated into the set he played the night before). He layered that over the somewhat minimal, introspective, or just plain old Mills-y-sounding tracks at a few points throughout the evening, to a good effect. Now, just to keep us old school Detroit fans happy, he even dropped Derrick May's Wiggin' (in its original version, alongside the New York and Chicago classics he played the previous night) before moving on to the harder Tresor stuff; however, the classics focus that night was definitely on the Tresor side of the Berlin-Detroit connection. He played quite a few tracks from the x-102 and x-103 albums, a few Rob Hood tracks, and towards the end he even dropped Maurizio's hard-as-nails Ploy, which to me was the summit of the evening, making the the energy at the venue feel like what I would imagine the old Tresor club in its heyday to have felt like. A few tracks from Minimal Nation were there too--just like during his LA show, and the musical selection was kept current by some newer techno tracks by Sleeparchive and a Joris Voorn track (from the newer tracks that I recognized). Apparently he also did something amazing with a Basic Channel track at the SF show, but I got there too late to witness it. I don't know if these two shows are representative of how Mills plays now, but if he usually plays with this much intensity, creativity and variety nowadays (as opposed to some of his recorded minimal/loopy techno sets I've heard in the past), then he has my vote as the world's best techno DJ/live act (oh, the live 909 action...) These were by far the best techno shows I've experienced. Wojtek P.S. For those interested, he has a new album coming out in January On 11/26/06, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mills ROCKED IT in both LA and SF this weekend!!It really was a techno lovers'/313ers' heaven at both shows. A longer review will follow. Wojtek
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The best techno shows for me too. There are some low quality videos from the sf show at: http://www.deejaym.net/events/jeffmills Quoting Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So the Wizard killed it this past weekend, in one of his few stateside appearances, both of which happened to be within driving distance of where I live. His three-and-a-half hour show in LA started with the fast-paced Call of the Wild, and continued with other pacey techno tracks, with a nice sprinkling of a few of tracks from Minimal Nation for good measure. About a third of the way into his set, Jeff started playing various classics and old school goodies. As Marina said before me, he played Work it To the Bone, Chip E.'s stuff, and then, he started playing Detroit classics! After he transitioned into playing the older tracks, he dropped Reese and Santonio's How to Play Our Music and the place went wild! He then went on to jam on the 909 for a bit, and continued with obscure acid and early Detroit techno. One of the highlights of the Detroit part of his set was the way he programmed a slightly syncopated 909 beat and blended X-Ray's Let's Go into it and kept the two going for the duration of the track! In that night's show alone I heard more Detroit classics than all of the other Detroit dj's I've heard combined! (yes, he dropped Strings of Life and Jaguar, too, the timing of which worked very well, though). It truly was an enjoyable show for anyone who's into the harder side of techno, and definitely a treat for anyone who enjoys classic Detroit techno, made even more enjoyable by the fact that he played late 80's Chicago acid alongside some New York house classics like the above mentioned Work It to the Bone and an instrumental version of Searchin' on Nu Groove, for added musical context. If all those Detroit and Chicago classics weren't enough, he also played a a version of Basic Channel's Phylyps Trak (the track called Axis, on the Phylyps Trak ep) alongside the more straight ahead techno, and that had just sealed the deal for me as probably the best techno show I've ever seen; along with Mills' next day appearance a few hundred miles up the road in San Francisco. His saturday gig was also on point. He played the 909 live (again), along with a little sample he played off a cd that sounded like a repeating ping-pong noise (which he also incorporated into the set he played the night before). He layered that over the somewhat minimal, introspective, or just plain old Mills-y-sounding tracks at a few points throughout the evening, to a good effect. Now, just to keep us old school Detroit fans happy, he even dropped Derrick May's Wiggin' (in its original version, alongside the New York and Chicago classics he played the previous night) before moving on to the harder Tresor stuff; however, the classics focus that night was definitely on the Tresor side of the Berlin-Detroit connection. He played quite a few tracks from the x-102 and x-103 albums, a few Rob Hood tracks, and towards the end he even dropped Maurizio's hard-as-nails Ploy, which to me was the summit of the evening, making the the energy at the venue feel like what I would imagine the old Tresor club in its heyday to have felt like. A few tracks from Minimal Nation were there too--just like during his LA show, and the musical selection was kept current by some newer techno tracks by Sleeparchive and a Joris Voorn track (from the newer tracks that I recognized). Apparently he also did something amazing with a Basic Channel track at the SF show, but I got there too late to witness it. I don't know if these two shows are representative of how Mills plays now, but if he usually plays with this much intensity, creativity and variety nowadays (as opposed to some of his recorded minimal/loopy techno sets I've heard in the past), then he has my vote as the world's best techno DJ/live act (oh, the live 909 action...) These were by far the best techno shows I've experienced. Wojtek P.S. For those interested, he has a new album coming out in January On 11/26/06, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mills ROCKED IT in both LA and SF this weekend!!It really was a techno lovers'/313ers' heaven at both shows. A longer review will follow. Wojtek
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Ah you stateside folks and your hardiness to distances - it's only as an occasional expedition us Europeans are going to travel 400 miles to a gig and back but to do it 2 nights running to see the same artist!!! -Original Message- From: Wojtek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] same here... driving 800 miles in two days took its toll on me it was definitely worth it though!! :) On 11/28/06, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the Wizard killed it this past weekend, in one of his few stateside appearances, both of which happened to be within driving distance of where I live
