Re: (313) Techno clubs in Detroit
TV Bar on Grand River (Check the event, cos sometimes they've got other stuff too) Grasshopper in Ferndale Liv on Beaubian (Deep House) Thank you Jodie, I found some of them ;) This really helps, I appreciate it.
Re: (313) Techno clubs in Detroit
TV Bar on Grand River (Check the event, cos sometimes they've got other stuff too) Grasshopper in Ferndale Liv on Beaubian (Deep House) On 9/27/13, Jójó familiar...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to find active clubs in Detroit where they play techno music. Where can I get a list of URLs to help me out? I've tried googling, but everything seems to be outdated. So I guess what better place to ask other than 313 :) (I used to be subscribed to the list a long time ago, I'd say about 15 years ago, but now I kind of returned to it. I'll be hanging out.) -- Jodie Svagr 313-915-1164 uandidesigndetr...@gmail.com Events, Promotions, Development
(313) Techno clubs in Detroit
I'm trying to find active clubs in Detroit where they play techno music. Where can I get a list of URLs to help me out? I've tried googling, but everything seems to be outdated. So I guess what better place to ask other than 313 :) (I used to be subscribed to the list a long time ago, I'd say about 15 years ago, but now I kind of returned to it. I'll be hanging out.)
(313) Techno Radio Stations Contacts
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(313) Techno Radio Stations Contacts
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Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed.
I really hope theres nothing about brooklyn minimal. we're talkin about rebels right? On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:19 PM, mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com wrote: Dan has a blog out on the www somewhere, and he mostly mentioned adding some stuff from the last 10 years. The small discography at the back was to be updated as well. I haven't seen the 2nd edition, so I am not sure what it looks like though. Jeff --Original Message-- From: jwan allen To: 313 List Subject: Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed. Sent: Apr 1, 2010 9:58 AM Either way I'm looking forward to the updates Mr. Sicko included in this 2nd Edition. It's hard to believe its been ten years since the first go round, just getting old I guess. The comment on Amazon are quite hilarious, as they are a few ppl that have issues that he didn't include the crappier forms of electronic music in his opus, needless to say those readers are missing the point. jw On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Matt Kane's Brain mkb.dirty...@gmail.com wrote: I guess there is a chapter about Ghostly. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 03:26, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote: If you've not read Dan's book then it's a good time to change that. I wonder what's new? http://theghostlystore.com/products/techno-rebels robin... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed.
It is called Techno Rebels, not minimal rebels :-) minimal and rebels... hmmm insert joke about that pretentious m_nus records here On 2 apr 2010, at 16:58, ohanakin ... wrote: I really hope theres nothing about brooklyn minimal. we're talkin about rebels right? On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:19 PM, mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com wrote: Dan has a blog out on the www somewhere, and he mostly mentioned adding some stuff from the last 10 years. The small discography at the back was to be updated as well. I haven't seen the 2nd edition, so I am not sure what it looks like though. Jeff --Original Message-- From: jwan allen To: 313 List Subject: Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed. Sent: Apr 1, 2010 9:58 AM Either way I'm looking forward to the updates Mr. Sicko included in this 2nd Edition. It's hard to believe its been ten years since the first go round, just getting old I guess. The comment on Amazon are quite hilarious, as they are a few ppl that have issues that he didn't include the crappier forms of electronic music in his opus, needless to say those readers are missing the point. jw On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Matt Kane's Brain mkb.dirty...@gmail.com wrote: I guess there is a chapter about Ghostly. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 03:26, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote: If you've not read Dan's book then it's a good time to change that. I wonder what's new? http://theghostlystore.com/products/techno-rebels robin... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed.
Is mnml still popular in Brooklyn? I thought that most of the cool kids have moved on to deep house... which is both good and bad, since along with the good and really deep stuff, there's a lot of bland stuff (but hasn't that always been true?). And as for m_nus, I don't know of anyone who has taken them seriously for some time, and that includes those of the more mnml persuasion. ~David On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma grand...@mac.com wrote: It is called Techno Rebels, not minimal rebels :-) minimal and rebels... hmmm insert joke about that pretentious m_nus records here On 2 apr 2010, at 16:58, ohanakin ... wrote: I really hope theres nothing about brooklyn minimal. we're talkin about rebels right? On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:19 PM, mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com wrote: Dan has a blog out on the www somewhere, and he mostly mentioned adding some stuff from the last 10 years. The small discography at the back was to be updated as well. I haven't seen the 2nd edition, so I am not sure what it looks like though. Jeff --Original Message-- From: jwan allen To: 313 List Subject: Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed. Sent: Apr 1, 2010 9:58 AM Either way I'm looking forward to the updates Mr. Sicko included in this 2nd Edition. It's hard to believe its been ten years since the first go round, just getting old I guess. The comment on Amazon are quite hilarious, as they are a few ppl that have issues that he didn't include the crappier forms of electronic music in his opus, needless to say those readers are missing the point. jw On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Matt Kane's Brain mkb.dirty...@gmail.com wrote: I guess there is a chapter about Ghostly. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 03:26, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote: If you've not read Dan's book then it's a good time to change that. I wonder what's new? http://theghostlystore.com/products/techno-rebels robin... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
(313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed.
If you've not read Dan's book then it's a good time to change that. I wonder what's new? http://theghostlystore.com/products/techno-rebels robin...
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I just hope it talks more about European and Brooklyn minimal. You don't hear enough about that stuff. On Thursday, April 1, 2010, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote: If you've not read Dan's book then it's a good time to change that. I wonder what's new? http://theghostlystore.com/products/techno-rebels robin...
Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed.
You should come live in Manchester. We don't talk about that stuff at all. :) Kenny Larkin tomorrow night for us. robin... On 1 Apr 2010, at 17:34, kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: I just hope it talks more about European and Brooklyn minimal. You don't hear enough about that stuff. On Thursday, April 1, 2010, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote: If you've not read Dan's book then it's a good time to change that. I wonder what's new? http://theghostlystore.com/products/techno-rebels robin...
Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed.
I guess there is a chapter about Ghostly. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 03:26, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote: If you've not read Dan's book then it's a good time to change that. I wonder what's new? http://theghostlystore.com/products/techno-rebels robin... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com
Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed.
Either way I'm looking forward to the updates Mr. Sicko included in this 2nd Edition. It's hard to believe its been ten years since the first go round, just getting old I guess. The comment on Amazon are quite hilarious, as they are a few ppl that have issues that he didn't include the crappier forms of electronic music in his opus, needless to say those readers are missing the point. jw On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Matt Kane's Brain mkb.dirty...@gmail.com wrote: I guess there is a chapter about Ghostly. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 03:26, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote: If you've not read Dan's book then it's a good time to change that. I wonder what's new? http://theghostlystore.com/products/techno-rebels robin... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed.
Ah, the preface has been posted online: http://techno-rebels.com/2009/12/intro/ On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:45, Matt Kane's Brain mkb.dirty...@gmail.com wrote: I guess there is a chapter about Ghostly. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com
Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed.
Dan has a blog out on the www somewhere, and he mostly mentioned adding some stuff from the last 10 years. The small discography at the back was to be updated as well. I haven't seen the 2nd edition, so I am not sure what it looks like though. Jeff --Original Message-- From: jwan allen To: 313 List Subject: Re: (313) Techno Rebels 2nd Ed. Sent: Apr 1, 2010 9:58 AM Either way I'm looking forward to the updates Mr. Sicko included in this 2nd Edition. It's hard to believe its been ten years since the first go round, just getting old I guess. The comment on Amazon are quite hilarious, as they are a few ppl that have issues that he didn't include the crappier forms of electronic music in his opus, needless to say those readers are missing the point. jw On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Matt Kane's Brain mkb.dirty...@gmail.com wrote: I guess there is a chapter about Ghostly. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 03:26, robin ro...@fivetones.org wrote: If you've not read Dan's book then it's a good time to change that. I wonder what's new? http://theghostlystore.com/products/techno-rebels robin... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg I need your sounds! http://nynex.hydrogenproject.com -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
Martin, re: dubstep producers : I really hope so as I like the sound of a snare on the third kick but I hope they all dont get sucked into the Berlin dubby style many seem to go down. There are some pretty interesting bits out there eg Untold, Appleblim, Silkie and Sharkey. Ravinder. 2009/9/11 Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com: On 10 Sep 2009, at 17:15, Ravinder S Mann wrote: Can techno capture the youth market ? Does it want or even need to? Most kids here are into funky house, speed garage or various flavours of hard style, the other factor is there are no techno clubs to go to. I think we'll start to see a younger influx of producers soon or later via dubstep, once they get beyond the bass and just beats. m
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
As someone who began listening to reggae and dub going on 30 years, I gravitate towards that sound wherever it pops up. I don't welcome people ossifying it into a genre though. One of the attractions of dubstep for me is the stuff that is informed by dub's sense of space. But it's a shame that there's enough dubby techno coming out that Boomkat has a genre tag for it. The good stuff is getting swamped in a sea of mediocre 'me-too' tracks. Anyone can hook up a muffled kick, a minor chord on 2 4, and a 1/4 note triplet delay -- lord knows I've done it myself plenty of times. But why release tracks whose chief virtue is how successfully they recycle the work of others? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Ravinder S Mann rav.m...@gmail.com wrote: Martin, re: dubstep producers : I really hope so as I like the sound of a snare on the third kick but I hope they all dont get sucked into the Berlin dubby style many seem to go down. There are some pretty interesting bits out there eg Untold, Appleblim, Silkie and Sharkey. Ravinder. 2009/9/11 Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com: On 10 Sep 2009, at 17:15, Ravinder S Mann wrote: Can techno capture the youth market ? Does it want or even need to? Most kids here are into funky house, speed garage or various flavours of hard style, the other factor is there are no techno clubs to go to. I think we'll start to see a younger influx of producers soon or later via dubstep, once they get beyond the bass and just beats. m
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
Ravinder S Mann wrote: Martin, re: dubstep producers : I really hope so as I like the sound of a snare on the third kick but I hope they all dont get sucked into the Berlin dubby style many seem to go down. There are some pretty interesting bits out there eg Untold, Appleblim, Silkie and Sharkey. Ravinder. There's a lot of interesting stuff around and it's getting more diverse, which is good as I'd got pretty bored with wobble and snare, which was always going to happen at some point. I reckon Dubstep is just coming out of it's loopy techno phase, interesting times ahead. m
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
kent williams wrote: As someone who began listening to reggae and dub going on 30 years, I gravitate towards that sound wherever it pops up. I don't welcome people ossifying it into a genre though. One of the attractions of dubstep for me is the stuff that is informed by dub's sense of space. But it's a shame that there's enough dubby techno coming out that Boomkat has a genre tag for it. The good stuff is getting swamped in a sea of mediocre 'me-too' tracks. Anyone can hook up a muffled kick, a minor chord on 2 4, and a 1/4 note triplet delay -- lord knows I've done it myself plenty of times. But why release tracks whose chief virtue is how successfully they recycle the work of others? It's a fair point Kent, good dub is very hard to do, understanding the space is not easy, while the childish use of echo is very easy indeed. m
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
On 10 Sep 2009, at 17:15, Ravinder S Mann wrote: Can techno capture the youth market ? Does it want or even need to? Most kids here are into funky house, speed garage or various flavours of hard style, the other factor is there are no techno clubs to go to. I think we'll start to see a younger influx of producers soon or later via dubstep, once they get beyond the bass and just beats. m
(313) Techno In The Press
There's an article in this months iDJ featuring some of Detroit's new producers, no idea which ones and Wire has a big interview with Dopplereffekt. m
RE: (313) Techno and Youth
Check out this mix by Cooly G - definitely some 'techno' elements in there. I'm loving this new take on an old sound http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid= 2507Itemid=28 Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Ravinder S Mann [mailto:rav.m...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 September 2009 17:16 To: list 313 Subject: (313) Techno and Youth Something Ive been thinking about recently In the UK we got UK Funky with is essentially house with a soca beat. Often made on simple equipment in a short period of time. I guess its like fashion just get it out there, sell it and make the next release. But people seem to get really excited by it. All the kids love it as its pure party music. And then comparing that to the time spend creating a techno release with all its attention to design and detail and if I were to play that to the same people as above they would be like 'nope its boring'. Why is that ? Can techno capture the youth market ? Ravinder. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
[kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com] You gotta do what you gotta do. A lot of techno is also made really quickly. In fact, I think a lot of producers have the strategy of making a lot of tracks as quickly as possible and then picking the best of the lot. Techno doesn't have to be time-consuming to make, and the best tracks are just drums with 2 or 3 additional sounds. The challenge is to make something awesome that's also simple. Yeah, it's like the quote from Antoine de Saint-Exupery: A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. I always thought that was kind of a guiding principle of techno. -- :: atomly :: [ ato...@atomly.com : www.atomly.com : http://blog.atomly.com/ ... [ atomiq records : new york city : +1.917.442.9450 ... [ e-mail atomly-news-subscr...@atomly.com for atomly info and updates ...
(313) Techno and Youth
Something Ive been thinking about recently In the UK we got UK Funky with is essentially house with a soca beat. Often made on simple equipment in a short period of time. I guess its like fashion just get it out there, sell it and make the next release. But people seem to get really excited by it. All the kids love it as its pure party music. And then comparing that to the time spend creating a techno release with all its attention to design and detail and if I were to play that to the same people as above they would be like 'nope its boring'. Why is that ? Can techno capture the youth market ? Ravinder.
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
UK Funky sounds just like what was going on in the mid 90s in Chicago...Dance Mania, IHR, Contaminated, and plenty of others were dropping new stuff weekly that wasn't exactly innovative or detail oriented. Jeff --Original Message-- From: Ravinder S Mann To: list 313 Sent: Sep 10, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: (313) Techno and Youth Something Ive been thinking about recently In the UK we got UK Funky with is essentially house with a soca beat. Often made on simple equipment in a short period of time. I guess its like fashion just get it out there, sell it and make the next release. But people seem to get really excited by it. All the kids love it as its pure party music. And then comparing that to the time spend creating a techno release with all its attention to design and detail and if I were to play that to the same people as above they would be like 'nope its boring'. Why is that ? Can techno capture the youth market ? Ravinder. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
Re: (313) Techno and Youth
You gotta do what you gotta do. A lot of techno is also made really quickly. In fact, I think a lot of producers have the strategy of making a lot of tracks as quickly as possible and then picking the best of the lot. Techno doesn't have to be time-consuming to make, and the best tracks are just drums with 2 or 3 additional sounds. The challenge is to make something awesome that's also simple. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Ravinder S Mannrav.m...@gmail.com wrote: Something Ive been thinking about recently In the UK we got UK Funky with is essentially house with a soca beat. Often made on simple equipment in a short period of time. I guess its like fashion just get it out there, sell it and make the next release. But people seem to get really excited by it. All the kids love it as its pure party music. And then comparing that to the time spend creating a techno release with all its attention to design and detail and if I were to play that to the same people as above they would be like 'nope its boring'. Why is that ? Can techno capture the youth market ? Ravinder.
Re: (313) Techno Documentary on Canadian Radio
Hi all, I've successfully located the documentary I was trying to find! http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/features/shows/noise/index.html On the downside, it does not appear I can load the archive. :( Andrew.. maybe you know -- is there a possibility to buy a recording from CBC of an old broadcast? Anyone else happen to have this laying around on their harddisk somewhere? -Peter On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM, PB textur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Some years ago a link was posted to a radio program (like a documentary) that aired about techno music. [Yes, I know there have been many.] It was very well done and I remember had a fascinating narrative. I am guessing that Andrew Duke will know what I am talking about. I cannot seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone know what I'm referring to? Google has been no help. I used to have the real audio archive saved somewhere on disk but can't locate it. -Peter
(313) Techno Documentary on Canadian Radio
Hi all, Some years ago a link was posted to a radio program (like a documentary) that aired about techno music. [Yes, I know there have been many.] It was very well done and I remember had a fascinating narrative. I am guessing that Andrew Duke will know what I am talking about. I cannot seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone know what I'm referring to? Google has been no help. I used to have the real audio archive saved somewhere on disk but can't locate it. -Peter
Re: (313) Techno Documentary on Canadian Radio
PB wrote: Hi all, Some years ago a link was posted to a radio program (like a documentary) that aired about techno music. [Yes, I know there have been many.] It was very well done and I remember had a fascinating narrative. I am guessing that Andrew Duke will know what I am talking about. I cannot seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone know what I'm referring to? Google has been no help. I used to have the real audio archive saved somewhere on disk but can't locate it. -Peter Hi, Peter. Was this on CBC or a campus/college/community radio station? Series or one-time thing? Andrew -- Andrew Duke In The Mix weekly mixshow (est. 1987), excl. DJ mixes, PAs, interviews: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeInTheMix.html sound design and music content provider: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/sounddesignandmusic.html http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1614666166 Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks 57 Hastings Drive Dartmouth NS Canada B2Y 2C7
Re: (313) Techno Documentary on Canadian Radio
Andrew -- It was a one time thing. It had the song Age of Love and I remember a narrative talking about a guy driving a german car... talking about cacophony of machines... a spark on a wire... I remember all of these random phrases from the narrative. -Peter On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Andrew Duke and...@andrew-duke.com wrote: PB wrote: Hi all, Some years ago a link was posted to a radio program (like a documentary) that aired about techno music. [Yes, I know there have been many.] It was very well done and I remember had a fascinating narrative. I am guessing that Andrew Duke will know what I am talking about. I cannot seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone know what I'm referring to? Google has been no help. I used to have the real audio archive saved somewhere on disk but can't locate it. -Peter Hi, Peter. Was this on CBC or a campus/college/community radio station? Series or one-time thing? Andrew -- Andrew Duke In The Mix weekly mixshow (est. 1987), excl. DJ mixes, PAs, interviews: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeInTheMix.html sound design and music content provider: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/sounddesignandmusic.html http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1614666166 Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks 57 Hastings Drive Dartmouth NS Canada B2Y 2C7
(313) techno / producers blogs - rehash
All, I know we had a list of music blogs, listing releases etc before, and I want to rehash it and expand this list. What blogs does everyone read that are 313 related, techno related, or general producer / synthesizer / studio related? If you have great blogs that are less related, please reply off list. Stuff that would be interesting to 313'ers, but not 313. I just want to add some more blog-power to my bookmarks. Thanks list! -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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An obvious choice would be: www.infinitestatemachine.com my personel favorite. if anyone didn't know about it now you know, you know! LL Cool A On Wed, October 1, 2008 6:50 pm, Michael Kuszynski wrote: All, I know we had a list of music blogs, listing releases etc before, and I want to rehash it and expand this list. What blogs does everyone read that are 313 related, techno related, or general producer / synthesizer / studio related? If you have great blogs that are less related, please reply off list. Stuff that would be interesting to 313'ers, but not 313. I just want to add some more blog-power to my bookmarks. Thanks list! -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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Especially good as a place where Tom Cox sounds off without getting into skirmishes with people on this list. And if you want to get into skirmishes with him still, you can do it in comments on the blog. On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An obvious choice would be: www.infinitestatemachine.com my personel favorite. if anyone didn't know about it now you know, you know! LL Cool A
Re: (313) techno / producers blogs - rehash
I've been running Gridface for a dozen years now: http://www.gridface.com/ It started out fairly IDM focused, but I've been getting back into 313-related music of late. I covered DEMF in 2007. Recently I posted tracklists for 45+ Ron Hardy mixes. Mostly it's reviews, though, and I welcome submissions. Cheers, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An obvious choice would be: www.infinitestatemachine.com my personel favorite. if anyone didn't know about it now you know, you know! LL Cool A On Wed, October 1, 2008 6:50 pm, Michael Kuszynski wrote: All, I know we had a list of music blogs, listing releases etc before, and I want to rehash it and expand this list. What blogs does everyone read that are 313 related, techno related, or general producer / synthesizer / studio related? If you have great blogs that are less related, please reply off list. Stuff that would be interesting to 313'ers, but not 313. I just want to add some more blog-power to my bookmarks. Thanks list! -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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My website/blog is basicly about all these things and some. I have a special focus on compressors and mixing effects of all kind, cherrypick all the good stuff that i'd personally use and write about it. Usually as long as stuff is fresh. But i'm also providing resources for synths, presets, soundbanks as well as loops, sounds etc. http://www.ronnypries.de Everybody's warmly welcome! Cheers, Ronny All, I know we had a list of music blogs, listing releases etc before, and I want to rehash it and expand this list. What blogs does everyone read that are 313 related, techno related, or general producer / synthesizer / studio related? If you have great blogs that are less related, please reply off list. Stuff that would be interesting to 313'ers, but not 313. I just want to add some more blog-power to my bookmarks. Thanks list!
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I reckon a 313 wiki would be good for collecting all these links to blogs, labels, recordstores, 313ers, etc. Or is the list enough for most people? kent williams wrote: Especially good as a place where Tom Cox sounds off without getting into skirmishes with people on this list. And if you want to get into skirmishes with him still, you can do it in comments on the blog. On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An obvious choice would be: www.infinitestatemachine.com my personel favorite. if anyone didn't know about it now you know, you know! LL Cool A
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i think a wiki would be exceedingly useful. while the list is technically archived it's certainly not as easy to use as a wiki would be. i vote you're in charge of it dave. :) On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:22 PM, David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reckon a 313 wiki would be good for collecting all these links to blogs, labels, recordstores, 313ers, etc. Or is the list enough for most people? kent williams wrote: Especially good as a place where Tom Cox sounds off without getting into skirmishes with people on this list. And if you want to get into skirmishes with him still, you can do it in comments on the blog. On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An obvious choice would be: www.infinitestatemachine.com my personel favorite. if anyone didn't know about it now you know, you know! LL Cool A -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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-Original Message- From: Michael Kuszynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 October 2008 12:51 To: 313 Subject: (313) techno / producers blogs - rehash All, I know we had a list of music blogs, listing releases etc before, and I want to rehash it and expand this list. What blogs does everyone read that are 313 related, techno related, or general producer / synthesizer / studio related? If you have great blogs that are less related, please reply off list. Stuff that would be interesting to 313'ers, but not 313. I just want to add some more blog-power to my bookmarks. Thanks list! My blog is just music now. None of that life malarkey in it anymore. So far it's resulted in more activity and I hope to keep that up. Details as below. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Techno - Manchester -1951
Some classic footage and voice over http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7458479.stm m
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Made in the building I'm now sat at work in. This control panel sits outside my office: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44756000/jpg/_44756023_mark1_226.jpg They probably had the argument that vinyl was better as well ;) robin... On 18 Jun 2008, at 12:25, Martin Dust wrote: Some classic footage and voice over http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7458479.stm m
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Don't you mean that the new, small transistor, based computers didn't give as warm a sounding rendition of baa baa black sheep as their valve models? From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2008 14:44 They probably had the argument that vinyl was better as well ;) robin... On 18 Jun 2008, at 12:25, Martin Dust wrote: Some classic footage and voice over http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7458479.stm
RE: (313) techno vs technique
Synchronicity ;-) From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 April 2008 20:43 We tend to forget the crap, and eventually it's all ground up and Archer uses it again.
(313) techno vs technique
This seems to come up a lot -- people complaining about laptop performers, software-based production, etc. This is where the dub vs mnml thread seemed to be going. I don't want to start another debate, or another repetition of the same people launching the same mortars over the wall at each other, but I want to say this (perhaps again): 1. Judge the results, not the technique. 2. The theoretical 'futurism' of techno would almost demand embracing of new technology. 3. You can make crappy dance music with a 909, 808, 303, SH101 and a MPC60 too. You're just out $10k more on hardware than you would be with your laptop and cracked copy of fruity loops. 4. Why give people points for making virtue of a necessity, if the results don't measure up?
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Well said Kent! Last couple of years i saw so many of there debates, debates whether or not techno with only a laptop is bad techno, analogue synthesis is the way. The thing is that when this whole thing started i had to do exactly the same discussion but then the thing we had to fight about was when 'traditional musicians' claimed electronic was not real. I recently had a similar debate with a DJ who claimed that people dj- ing with Live or with that M-Audio Torq system ain't real DJ's. In the end it turns out that most of these discussions are all based on fear or a form of jealousy. I have a studio with a bunch of old analogue synths and i see people playing out with only a laptop, and that laptop is there whole studio to. When is started making electronic music i had to save up a lot of money to get something simple started, these young kids can do the same with a lot less money. All these discussions are based on feelings described above, in most cases they have no musical content and if there is one it is mainly that for example the old rock people simply did not like the sound of a TB-303. On 7 apr 2008, at 15:36, kent williams wrote: This seems to come up a lot -- people complaining about laptop performers, software-based production, etc. This is where the dub vs mnml thread seemed to be going. I don't want to start another debate, or another repetition of the same people launching the same mortars over the wall at each other, but I want to say this (perhaps again): 1. Judge the results, not the technique. 2. The theoretical 'futurism' of techno would almost demand embracing of new technology. 3. You can make crappy dance music with a 909, 808, 303, SH101 and a MPC60 too. You're just out $10k more on hardware than you would be with your laptop and cracked copy of fruity loops. 4. Why give people points for making virtue of a necessity, if the results don't measure up?
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Totally agree. But there will always be people feeling hurted by the ones who disturb their own status quo. The thing repeats on and on and on. A 70 year old rich guy claims that popular music is not music, an 50 year old claims that music played by guitar bands is real music, and music played by pushing buttons and running machines is not music, a young fresh guy, who already heard all this sh*t, claims that music made by pushing buttons and running machines is real music and the onde made in a computer is not. It's like a generations disease! That reminds me of that classic situation at work – new guy arrives doing things, shifting things up, but the olds guys wanna put him down cause they don't wanna work hard, they don't wanna keep up or run the risk of loosing whatever they already have. Kw On 07/04/2008, at 10:36, kent williams wrote: This seems to come up a lot -- people complaining about laptop performers, software-based production, etc. This is where the dub vs mnml thread seemed to be going. I don't want to start another debate, or another repetition of the same people launching the same mortars over the wall at each other, but I want to say this (perhaps again): 1. Judge the results, not the technique. 2. The theoretical 'futurism' of techno would almost demand embracing of new technology. 3. You can make crappy dance music with a 909, 808, 303, SH101 and a MPC60 too. You're just out $10k more on hardware than you would be with your laptop and cracked copy of fruity loops. 4. Why give people points for making virtue of a necessity, if the results don't measure up?
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What do you base this comment on, just your own experience or a wider view? As a primarily (but not solely) hardware producer I certainly don't agree with that statement - I neither fear nor am jealous or even smug about laptop producers, I simply prefer making music with hardware. Yes, it took money and time to build up a decent studio, but that's half the fun of it. It's just a different way of working... Whilst I fundamentally agree also that the end product is the most important thing, there cannot be any question that the methods used dramatically alter the outcome. It's a matter of taste which you prefer, but there is no doubt that differing production techniques and equipment result in a different sound... Not only from the point of sound generation (which is becoming less obvious as soft synths etc become ever more elegant) but also the interface and approach that the differing techniques force upon the musician. There are things that you can do with a computer that would be very difficult to do with hardware and vice versa... i don't think you can do exactly the same thing with each at all.. Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: In the end it turns out that most of these discussions are all based on fear or a form of jealousy. I have a studio with a bunch of old analogue synths and i see people playing out with only a laptop, and that laptop is there whole studio to. When is started making electronic music i had to save up a lot of money to get something simple started, these young kids can do the same with a lot less money. -- *matt chester 11th hour recordings* www.myspace.com/mattchester1 www.myspace.com/11thhourrecordings www.virb.com/mattchester www.11-hour.com
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I think it often boils down to the coolness factor amongst haters on forums, clapping each ones shoulder plus the notorious my dick is longer than yours boogie. From my experience, above are valid in ~90% of such discussions. Why give people points for making virtue of a necessity, if the results don't measure up?
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Oh don't get me wrong, i don think there is anything wrong with having a preference on making music with hardware or software or a mix. My point was simply that most of the discussion i had with people about if music made equipment Z or by workflow Y is based on some form of jealousy or fear. I personally have a mix of both worlds in my studio. My statement is based on personal experiences, something i noticed when i had these rather pointless discussions on what was real music. It wasn't based on some form of science/facts. The discussions on itself is pointless because it can only be held if we could exactly tell scientifically what would be music and what not. These discussions are based on personal feelings about what would be the right way to make music. It is a personal preference yet most people try to reason about it with other people on scientific level. So we personal/emotional choice about music and we defend it scientific facts. KJ On 7 apr 2008, at 18:19, Matt Chester wrote: What do you base this comment on, just your own experience or a wider view? As a primarily (but not solely) hardware producer I certainly don't agree with that statement - I neither fear nor am jealous or even smug about laptop producers, I simply prefer making music with hardware. Yes, it took money and time to build up a decent studio, but that's half the fun of it. It's just a different way of working... Whilst I fundamentally agree also that the end product is the most important thing, there cannot be any question that the methods used dramatically alter the outcome. It's a matter of taste which you prefer, but there is no doubt that differing production techniques and equipment result in a different sound... Not only from the point of sound generation (which is becoming less obvious as soft synths etc become ever more elegant) but also the interface and approach that the differing techniques force upon the musician. There are things that you can do with a computer that would be very difficult to do with hardware and vice versa... i don't think you can do exactly the same thing with each at all.. Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: In the end it turns out that most of these discussions are all based on fear or a form of jealousy. I have a studio with a bunch of old analogue synths and i see people playing out with only a laptop, and that laptop is there whole studio to. When is started making electronic music i had to save up a lot of money to get something simple started, these young kids can do the same with a lot less money. -- *matt chester 11th hour recordings* www.myspace.com/mattchester1 www.myspace.com/11thhourrecordings www.virb.com/mattchester www.11-hour.com
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kent williams a écrit : This seems to come up a lot -- people complaining about laptop performers, software-based production, etc. This is where the dub vs mnml thread seemed to be going. I don't want to start another debate, or another repetition of the same people launching the same mortars over the wall at each other, but I want to say this (perhaps again): 1. Judge the results, not the technique. 2. The theoretical 'futurism' of techno would almost demand embracing of new technology. 3. You can make crappy dance music with a 909, 808, 303, SH101 and a MPC60 too. You're just out $10k more on hardware than you would be with your laptop and cracked copy of fruity loops. 4. Why give people points for making virtue of a necessity, if the results don't measure up? The so called futurism of techno is debatable. I just wish for good and ambitious music whether it is futuristic or not. My main problem right now is the flood of crappy music generated by the fact the barrier of entry to make music is lower than in the hardware era. Random Joe makes a loop, add random sounds, and voila: instant track that goes knowhere that might find a label since it's so easy to release digitally. Listening sequentially to listings of beatport or juno is a painful experience My other concern is that a lot of those new producers follow a formula, wheter it's mnml, house, etc where the composition of their track is s predictable. It's boring too tears. Even some tracks considered super good by most of the people of this list can enter the predictable, and does not bring anything new to the table even if a little category. These days I prefer music that push things forward a bit, whether it's from Digitonal, Jacen Solo or Matt Chester (hi Matt!) for example. After all those years, I have less and less patience for music that just replicates a formula, as well produced as it is.
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1. Judge the results, not the technique. Totally true, why it's so important what is used if the result is good/right and deserves the title of 'art' or offers the music to go further. If an artist records good music using a pure hardware analog modular and another one NI Reaktor (for example). Does the one using Reaktor is less interesting ? 2. The theoretical 'futurism' of techno would almost demand embracing of new technology. Definitely agree, it's the way this music was created at first and now, some would ask to stay close to the old and almost dead 'way to do' ? Artists have today so much tools in hands and half of them just try to copy what was done near (more?...) 20 years ago. 3. You can make crappy dance music with a 909, 808, 303, SH101 and a MPC60 too. You're just out $10k more on hardware than you would be with your laptop and cracked copy of fruity loops. On a personal opinion, it's why there is so much bad copies of the D sound actually. Guys buying gear because 'names' use it and do all and nothing with it claiming they do 'the sound inspired' by Detroit. And it's not limited to Detroit, Chicago sound ... New York sound ... 4. Why give people points for making virtue of a necessity, if the results don't measure up? Again, In My Opinion, because too much hypocrisy. Some peoples say an artist is f*g good just because he use gear they can't afford. Look at Buchla synths owners, except a few, lot of those who own it records boring noises that can be done on a old Atari or with any VST freeware. Just a few know how to use it and program it really since it is a very complex synthesizer. But, do some 'google' search and you'll find lot of peoples loving these noises just because the man behind own one of these rare synths. Ok, ok, I take the door and go out with my dog :-) PEACE -- Dimitri Pike http://wildtek.free.fr http://www.myspace.com/wildtek
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Frank Glazer a écrit : My main problem right now is the flood of crappy music generated by the fact the barrier of entry to make music is lower than in the hardware era. Random Joe makes a loop, add random sounds, and voila: instant track that goes knowhere that might find a label since it's so easy to release digitally. Listening sequentially to listings of beatport or juno is a painful experience i hear this argument a lot and i think it's rubbish. i'm sure industry people were saying the same thing when chicagoans started belting out drum tracks on (then) cheap roland boxes in the early 80s, but that turned out pretty good, i'd say. think of it this way, you could just as easily go back in time and imagine similar things being said, like this: the fact the barrier of entry to make music is lower than in the symphonic era/big band era/rock n roll quartet era/arena rock era. technology always changes and expands the possibilities for music, both good and bad. if you don't like the bad, don't support it. pretty simple equation. The good news with the easy access to making music is that in all those new producers a few outstanding ones will emerge. So there's still hope for great music and advancing technolgy heh :)
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Lest we forget, how many absolutely sh1t records were put out in Chicago and Detroit in the late 80s/early 90s 'golden age' of techno and house? We tend to forget the crap, and eventually it's all ground up and Archer uses it again. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Michael Pujos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Glazer a écrit : My main problem right now is the flood of crappy music generated by the fact the barrier of entry to make music is lower than in the hardware era. Random Joe makes a loop, add random sounds, and voila: instant track that goes knowhere that might find a label since it's so easy to release digitally. Listening sequentially to listings of beatport or juno is a painful experience i hear this argument a lot and i think it's rubbish. i'm sure industry people were saying the same thing when chicagoans started belting out drum tracks on (then) cheap roland boxes in the early 80s, but that turned out pretty good, i'd say. think of it this way, you could just as easily go back in time and imagine similar things being said, like this: the fact the barrier of entry to make music is lower than in the symphonic era/big band era/rock n roll quartet era/arena rock era. technology always changes and expands the possibilities for music, both good and bad. if you don't like the bad, don't support it. pretty simple equation. The good news with the easy access to making music is that in all those new producers a few outstanding ones will emerge. So there's still hope for great music and advancing technolgy heh :)
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AND/OR the crap gets dug up and sold for DOLLAZ as SUPER RARE CHICAGO ACID HOUSE TEST PRE on Discogs/Ebay/Gemm On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 3:43 PM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lest we forget, how many absolutely sh1t records were put out in Chicago and Detroit in the late 80s/early 90s 'golden age' of techno and house? We tend to forget the crap, and eventually it's all ground up and Archer uses it again. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Michael Pujos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Glazer a écrit : My main problem right now is the flood of crappy music generated by the fact the barrier of entry to make music is lower than in the hardware era. Random Joe makes a loop, add random sounds, and voila: instant track that goes knowhere that might find a label since it's so easy to release digitally. Listening sequentially to listings of beatport or juno is a painful experience i hear this argument a lot and i think it's rubbish. i'm sure industry people were saying the same thing when chicagoans started belting out drum tracks on (then) cheap roland boxes in the early 80s, but that turned out pretty good, i'd say. think of it this way, you could just as easily go back in time and imagine similar things being said, like this: the fact the barrier of entry to make music is lower than in the symphonic era/big band era/rock n roll quartet era/arena rock era. technology always changes and expands the possibilities for music, both good and bad. if you don't like the bad, don't support it. pretty simple equation. The good news with the easy access to making music is that in all those new producers a few outstanding ones will emerge. So there's still hope for great music and advancing technolgy heh :) -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Well, it _is_ SUPER RARE, you gotta give 'em that... :) On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AND/OR the crap gets dug up and sold for DOLLAZ as SUPER RARE CHICAGO ACID HOUSE TEST PRE on Discogs/Ebay/Gemm
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Michael, when small bass/drums/guitar combos came out, people said the same thing: now anyone can do music and it's gonna be crappy. When producers didn't have to learn musical theory or music notation to make music, people said the same thing. Probably, people said the same thing when Guttenberg came out with mobile typography in the XV century: now everyone will be able to read and write and print any crap they like. Can't you see that the loop is the fact that people tend to be conservative when facing changes? Changes for me are exciting. And we're privileged to live years of such revolutionary changes. Y'all know what i mean. The formulaic thing... We work in two ways here. In one way, formulas built the styles, the genres. It comes the expression of many, of a society or a community. It's important. Like american soul music and the fight for the civil rights. It has its beauty integrated to a social factor - its indivisible. In other way, a composer will turn out to be crappy when you can see no punch in what he does, and the only thing that remains is an ordinary formula reaching nowhere. We can hear unexpected wonderful tunes made upon very simple and ordinary, formulaic structures, like the 12 bar blues or whatever. After all, what will count has no name. Gear doesn't matter, styles doesn't matter. It lies only in the artist himself. On 07/04/2008, at 15:57, Michael Pujos wrote: kent williams a écrit : This seems to come up a lot -- people complaining about laptop performers, software-based production, etc. This is where the dub vs mnml thread seemed to be going. I don't want to start another debate, or another repetition of the same people launching the same mortars over the wall at each other, but I want to say this (perhaps again): 1. Judge the results, not the technique. 2. The theoretical 'futurism' of techno would almost demand embracing of new technology. 3. You can make crappy dance music with a 909, 808, 303, SH101 and a MPC60 too. You're just out $10k more on hardware than you would be with your laptop and cracked copy of fruity loops. 4. Why give people points for making virtue of a necessity, if the results don't measure up? The so called futurism of techno is debatable. I just wish for good and ambitious music whether it is futuristic or not. My main problem right now is the flood of crappy music generated by the fact the barrier of entry to make music is lower than in the hardware era. Random Joe makes a loop, add random sounds, and voila: instant track that goes knowhere that might find a label since it's so easy to release digitally. Listening sequentially to listings of beatport or juno is a painful experience My other concern is that a lot of those new producers follow a formula, wheter it's mnml, house, etc where the composition of their track is s predictable. It's boring too tears. Even some tracks considered super good by most of the people of this list can enter the predictable, and does not bring anything new to the table even if a little category. These days I prefer music that push things forward a bit, whether it's from Digitonal, Jacen Solo or Matt Chester (hi Matt!) for example. After all those years, I have less and less patience for music that just replicates a formula, as well produced as it is.
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Kowalsky a écrit : Michael, when small bass/drums/guitar combos came out, people said the same thing: now anyone can do music and it's gonna be crappy. When producers didn't have to learn musical theory or music notation to make music, people said the same thing. Probably, people said the same thing when Guttenberg came out with mobile typography in the XV century: now everyone will be able to read and write and print any crap they like. Can't you see that the loop is the fact that people tend to be conservative when facing changes? Changes for me are exciting. And we're privileged to live years of such revolutionary changes. Y'all know what i mean. The formulaic thing... We work in two ways here. In one way, formulas built the styles, the genres. It comes the expression of many, of a society or a community. It's important. Like american soul music and the fight for the civil rights. It has its beauty integrated to a social factor - its indivisible. In other way, a composer will turn out to be crappy when you can see no punch in what he does, and the only thing that remains is an ordinary formula reaching nowhere. We can hear unexpected wonderful tunes made upon very simple and ordinary, formulaic structures, like the 12 bar blues or whatever. After all, what will count has no name. Gear doesn't matter, styles doesn't matter. It lies only in the artist himself. Sure but artists do music for a variety of reasons: getting better known to get gigs, a crappy remix to get a few $ because everybody and his mother needs to remix each other these days, and sometimes finally for the love of music. So it lies in the artist yes, but talented artists that do music for the good reasons, have a real artistic vision and the mean to realize it, are not so common. As for the formula, a point that annoys me is that much music is formatted to be DJ friendly, ie an unterminable 2-3min intro with next to nothing in it. And I'm talking of house here. I was relieved the other day when I got this great new Delano Smith EP and most tracks were starting straight away on point and about 5:30 [to those who'd say its formulaic, sometimes its so well done than it does not matter]. As a counter example of being formulaic, take most of the incredible Iridite back catalog: most tracks are not that much linear and offers suprises to the listener. Something not much people take the risk to do these days. Dan Curtin also excels as making non linear and intricate techno. It's not so much a surprise that non DJ friendly stuff allow a bit more of creativity composition wise. Anyway don't take all of the above to the letter: things are more sublte than I can express them, as English is not my native language.
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It seems that we agree in many points. So, no reason to take this further as a debate. I usually don't like the functional music, made for the (lousy) DJ. I've seen a lot of djs being fooled buy some dj unfriendly UR tunes, wich the first kick is not the 1 in the tempo count. Funny. :-D On 07/04/2008, at 17:48, Michael Pujos wrote: Kowalsky a écrit : Michael, when small bass/drums/guitar combos came out, people said the same thing: now anyone can do music and it's gonna be crappy. When producers didn't have to learn musical theory or music notation to make music, people said the same thing. Probably, people said the same thing when Guttenberg came out with mobile typography in the XV century: now everyone will be able to read and write and print any crap they like. Can't you see that the loop is the fact that people tend to be conservative when facing changes? Changes for me are exciting. And we're privileged to live years of such revolutionary changes. Y'all know what i mean. The formulaic thing... We work in two ways here. In one way, formulas built the styles, the genres. It comes the expression of many, of a society or a community. It's important. Like american soul music and the fight for the civil rights. It has its beauty integrated to a social factor - its indivisible. In other way, a composer will turn out to be crappy when you can see no punch in what he does, and the only thing that remains is an ordinary formula reaching nowhere. We can hear unexpected wonderful tunes made upon very simple and ordinary, formulaic structures, like the 12 bar blues or whatever. After all, what will count has no name. Gear doesn't matter, styles doesn't matter. It lies only in the artist himself. Sure but artists do music for a variety of reasons: getting better known to get gigs, a crappy remix to get a few $ because everybody and his mother needs to remix each other these days, and sometimes finally for the love of music. So it lies in the artist yes, but talented artists that do music for the good reasons, have a real artistic vision and the mean to realize it, are not so common. As for the formula, a point that annoys me is that much music is formatted to be DJ friendly, ie an unterminable 2-3min intro with next to nothing in it. And I'm talking of house here. I was relieved the other day when I got this great new Delano Smith EP and most tracks were starting straight away on point and about 5:30 [to those who'd say its formulaic, sometimes its so well done than it does not matter]. As a counter example of being formulaic, take most of the incredible Iridite back catalog: most tracks are not that much linear and offers suprises to the listener. Something not much people take the risk to do these days. Dan Curtin also excels as making non linear and intricate techno. It's not so much a surprise that non DJ friendly stuff allow a bit more of creativity composition wise. Anyway don't take all of the above to the letter: things are more sublte than I can express them, as English is not my native language.
RE: (313) techno vs technique
But it's a lot easier to put ones random software noodlings up as a download, ostensibly as releasable quality, than it is, or was, to get it pressed on vinyl and then sold from a location. -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:43 PM To: Michael Pujos Cc: Frank Glazer; 313 Subject: Re: (313) techno vs technique Lest we forget, how many absolutely sh1t records were put out in Chicago and Detroit in the late 80s/early 90s 'golden age' of techno and house? We tend to forget the crap, and eventually it's all ground up and Archer uses it again. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Michael Pujos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Glazer a écrit : My main problem right now is the flood of crappy music generated by the fact the barrier of entry to make music is lower than in the hardware era. Random Joe makes a loop, add random sounds, and voila: instant track that goes knowhere that might find a label since it's so easy to release digitally. Listening sequentially to listings of beatport or juno is a painful experience i hear this argument a lot and i think it's rubbish. i'm sure industry people were saying the same thing when chicagoans started belting out drum tracks on (then) cheap roland boxes in the early 80s, but that turned out pretty good, i'd say. think of it this way, you could just as easily go back in time and imagine similar things being said, like this: the fact the barrier of entry to make music is lower than in the symphonic era/big band era/rock n roll quartet era/arena rock era. technology always changes and expands the possibilities for music, both good and bad. if you don't like the bad, don't support it. pretty simple equation. The good news with the easy access to making music is that in all those new producers a few outstanding ones will emerge. So there's still hope for great music and advancing technolgy heh :) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.8/1362 - Release Date: 4/6/2008 11:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.8/1362 - Release Date: 4/6/2008 11:12 AM
Re: (313) techno vs technique
But the previous iteration to which you refer was in turn much easier than the wave before it, when you actually had to get 3-6 (or more) people to agree on a tune and play in relatively perfectly synchronization, get into a studio, record it and mix it analogously, and promote and distribute it. And play shows, virtually living together for years on end--assuming they hit. And that in turn was much easier than symphony music... and so on down the line... in short, have a point. On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:03 PM, rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it's a lot easier to put ones random software noodlings up as a download, ostensibly as releasable quality, than it is, or was, to get it pressed on vinyl and then sold from a location.
Re: (313) techno vs technique
As far as this original topic goes...I've created music on hardware and software, and find advantages to both. It is the user's knowledge and input rather than the machines. The problem I see is usually between the interface and the chair...not the equipment. I have known tons of people who have had the 'right' equipment for doing this music we love, yet have no earthly idea how to make what they want to make. FWIW, I'll take Claude Young with a laptop over some hack with a 909 and every toy imaginable. -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
(313) Techno In Africa
This is from a friends site but you may find it interesting: Movie http://woebot.tv/archives/echo.html I can't find the text file that went with it but Woebot went over to play techno/house music and the movie is a document of his adventures. It takes a while to load. m
Re: (313) Techno In Africa
http://www.woebot.com/movabletype/archives/000514.html I think i've found the text file Amazing doccumentary! aida This is from a friends site but you may find it interesting: Movie http://woebot.tv/archives/echo.html I can't find the text file that went with it but Woebot went over to play techno/house music and the movie is a document of his adventures. It takes a while to load. m
Re: (313) techno in leuven
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 23:09 +0200, Collin Chen wrote: HI all, Greetings from Leuven!!! I will be in Leuven this weekend. ANyone could tell what is good for techno around here? I could only find Dave Clarke at Fuse over the weekend. Hi Collin, Fuse is in Brussels, not too far from Leuven. In Leuven, there is: http://www.dermachine.be/ http://www.silo.be/ http://www.rumba.be/ Machine is really a pub-turned-into-a-very-small-club with a very varied musical programming: from Salsa over DnB/Jungle, hip Hop to Electro/Techno/... It's pretty non-mainstream with a strong focus on unknown talent. It's only been around for a couple of months too. It's right in the centre of Leuven. Silo has been around for years, although in different forms over the years (due to various owners I believe). This is more of a club (although, just like Machine, with an industrial look) with two rooms. I haven't been there for over a year though, so I don't know if things have changed recently. Rumba Co occasionally has techno/electro nights. Regards, Filip
(313) techno in leuven
HI all, Greetings from Leuven!!! I will be in Leuven this weekend. ANyone could tell what is good for techno around here? I could only find Dave Clarke at Fuse over the weekend. Regards, Collin Chen
(313) Techno | Detroit-History.com News!
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RE: (313) Techno Funnies :o)
It must be that I'm not intelligent enough to understand this humour... -Original Message- From: Wojtek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 July 2007 20:33 To: 313 Subject: (313) Techno Funnies :o) Nicked from No-Future, funny and sad :-) 1. If you have some money to spend, feel free to bring lots of cocaine and ketamine. Don't splurge it all on the actual party , as the after party is where you drugs count - expect to be feeding your favourite minimal DJ's with tons of nose candy until late the next day. Be sure you can hang. 2. If you have a nice big flat and don't mind it being temporarily used as a crack house, be sure to offer it to your favourite minimal DJ before he or she leaves their respected party - be aware that you will most likely have no say on who actually attends the after party, but rest assure you are on your way to becoming a minimal hypster. 3. The haircut is very important, although it is very important - you must not let this be the DEFINING aspect. For tips on hypster haircuts, check on the internet for the latest pictures of Magda - be sure the photo is hot and up to date, as this commandment rotates about every 2 weeks - by that time there is thousands with the same haircut. 4. Underrated but very serious in your quest to minimal hyperstardom is the minimal scarf. Normally used by French artists say to the world hey I am an artist, shuchameblah this is now a sure-fire way to let everyone else know - hey I am down with the minimal sound. Current minimal hypsters who sport the minimal scarf include Luciano, Ricardo, Richie, Magda, Troy and Marc Houle. 5. If you ever have the chance to meet Rich Hawtin, when talking with him - make sure you agree with everything he says and most importantly REPEAT. If you do not have the pleasure of meeting him personally, but have a friend who has - just repeat to everyone what your friend has told you he said. If they are a true minimal hypster they will surely repeat their whole conversation anyway. With people such as Troy Pierce, Magda, Ricardo Villalobos, Luciano, this same rule applies to a lesser degree, but still enough to get you on your way. 6. This one is very important, forget about your health and live for the moment. You must be willing to take as many drugs as your favourite minimal superstar DJ. As long as your are willing to party until the last moment on a broad combination of drugs all at the same time, such as Ketamine, Mdma, lots and lots of cocaine, speed, LSD and the occasional mushrooms you will surely be accepted and furthermore run the possibility of being admired. You can never imagine the power of totally ruining your body and mind in the conquest to being a minimal hype star. 7. This one is simple! Keep it superficial. Under no circumstances should you have a conversation with some depth or meaning. Recommended topics of discussion are haircuts, the newest minus record, how cool magda is, how much drugs Ricardo took the night before, how cool the current party is, and how amazing of a musician Luciano is. Just tell yourself over and over, this is not actually being superficial - it's just being minimal. 8. Sex, Sex, Sex - in the minimal hypster world you should never expect to get laid before 48 hours of straight partying. Even if you have a special liking for that certain someone, keep in mind that if they too are an aspiring minimal hypster like yourself they will most definitely be at that after-hours, and where better place to get down to sexual business. (This is the time when taste, memory and morals are all flushed down the toilet) if you are a female, this is the time where you chances are highest of scoring with your favourite minimal superstar DJ, therefore immediately catapulting yourself into minimal stardom.(most of the time you will just settle for someone who knows Rich Hawtin). 9. Be sure to constantly read the writing of PHILIP SHERBURNE - he is the man who will always keep you informed on the newest and best hype on the internet. DO NOT EVER QUESTION HIS INTENTIONS OR MENTION THE FACT THAT ALL HE WRITES ABOUT IS HOW COOL RICARDO, RICH HAWTIN, MAGDA, LUCIANO, ROBAG WRUHME AND MUTEK CREW IS. He is literally the man to go to if you want to be fed with the minimal hype. Although it seems as if he is desperately trying to fit in and be accepted, everyone should realize HE HAS ALREADY BEEN ACCPETED. He just loves his role as minimal hypster so much that he wants to spread the love. As with Rich Hawtin the same rule applies to Mr. Sherburne, everything he writes or says AKNOWLEDGE, AGREE AND REPEAT. 10. THE MINIMAL CAPITAL OF THE WORLD BERLIN! If you wish to be a minimal hypestar, one of the easiest ways is to come to Berlin with no plan and frequent places such as the famous drug spots like bar25, club de visionarie and panoramabar. It is these locations in which your minimal fantasies become realities - expect to see people like Rich Hawtin, Matt John, Konrad Black, Troy Pierce
Re: (313) Techno Funnies :o)
On 1 Aug 2007, at 12:26, Odeluga, Ken wrote: It must be that I'm not intelligent enough to understand this humour... I figured Vice would have been proud of that piece ;) m
Re: (313) Techno Funnies :o)
It was a jokey rant, wasn't meant to be taken seriously I believe Kent... m On 1 Aug 2007, at 15:07, kent williams wrote: It's not like I know the man well, but when he played Iowa City, I interviewed him and hung out a bit with him and Clark Dale. He seemed like a nice enough guy, serious about his music, not the monster people make him out to be. I have a hard time separate out the reflexive hating on him for being successful from any serious critique of what he does. I like some of his old tracks quite a bit, but the whole minimal style as it has evolved isn't my thing. But at a certain point, hating on Richie is as cliche' as fawning on him.
Re: (313) Techno Funnies :o)
It's not like I know the man well, but when he played Iowa City, I interviewed him and hung out a bit with him and Clark Dale. He seemed like a nice enough guy, serious about his music, not the monster people make him out to be. I have a hard time separate out the reflexive hating on him for being successful from any serious critique of what he does. I like some of his old tracks quite a bit, but the whole minimal style as it has evolved isn't my thing. But at a certain point, hating on Richie is as cliche' as fawning on him.
(313) Techno Funnies :o)
Nicked from No-Future, funny and sad :-) 1. If you have some money to spend, feel free to bring lots of cocaine and ketamine. Don't splurge it all on the actual party , as the after party is where you drugs count - expect to be feeding your favourite minimal DJ's with tons of nose candy until late the next day. Be sure you can hang. 2. If you have a nice big flat and don't mind it being temporarily used as a crack house, be sure to offer it to your favourite minimal DJ before he or she leaves their respected party - be aware that you will most likely have no say on who actually attends the after party, but rest assure you are on your way to becoming a minimal hypster. 3. The haircut is very important, although it is very important - you must not let this be the DEFINING aspect. For tips on hypster haircuts, check on the internet for the latest pictures of Magda - be sure the photo is hot and up to date, as this commandment rotates about every 2 weeks - by that time there is thousands with the same haircut. 4. Underrated but very serious in your quest to minimal hyperstardom is the minimal scarf. Normally used by French artists say to the world hey I am an artist, shuchameblah this is now a sure-fire way to let everyone else know - hey I am down with the minimal sound. Current minimal hypsters who sport the minimal scarf include Luciano, Ricardo, Richie, Magda, Troy and Marc Houle. 5. If you ever have the chance to meet Rich Hawtin, when talking with him - make sure you agree with everything he says and most importantly REPEAT. If you do not have the pleasure of meeting him personally, but have a friend who has - just repeat to everyone what your friend has told you he said. If they are a true minimal hypster they will surely repeat their whole conversation anyway. With people such as Troy Pierce, Magda, Ricardo Villalobos, Luciano, this same rule applies to a lesser degree, but still enough to get you on your way. 6. This one is very important, forget about your health and live for the moment. You must be willing to take as many drugs as your favourite minimal superstar DJ. As long as your are willing to party until the last moment on a broad combination of drugs all at the same time, such as Ketamine, Mdma, lots and lots of cocaine, speed, LSD and the occasional mushrooms you will surely be accepted and furthermore run the possibility of being admired. You can never imagine the power of totally ruining your body and mind in the conquest to being a minimal hype star. 7. This one is simple! Keep it superficial. Under no circumstances should you have a conversation with some depth or meaning. Recommended topics of discussion are haircuts, the newest minus record, how cool magda is, how much drugs Ricardo took the night before, how cool the current party is, and how amazing of a musician Luciano is. Just tell yourself over and over, this is not actually being superficial - it's just being minimal. 8. Sex, Sex, Sex - in the minimal hypster world you should never expect to get laid before 48 hours of straight partying. Even if you have a special liking for that certain someone, keep in mind that if they too are an aspiring minimal hypster like yourself they will most definitely be at that after-hours, and where better place to get down to sexual business. (This is the time when taste, memory and morals are all flushed down the toilet) if you are a female, this is the time where you chances are highest of scoring with your favourite minimal superstar DJ, therefore immediately catapulting yourself into minimal stardom.(most of the time you will just settle for someone who knows Rich Hawtin). 9. Be sure to constantly read the writing of PHILIP SHERBURNE - he is the man who will always keep you informed on the newest and best hype on the internet. DO NOT EVER QUESTION HIS INTENTIONS OR MENTION THE FACT THAT ALL HE WRITES ABOUT IS HOW COOL RICARDO, RICH HAWTIN, MAGDA, LUCIANO, ROBAG WRUHME AND MUTEK CREW IS. He is literally the man to go to if you want to be fed with the minimal hype. Although it seems as if he is desperately trying to fit in and be accepted, everyone should realize HE HAS ALREADY BEEN ACCPETED. He just loves his role as minimal hypster so much that he wants to spread the love. As with Rich Hawtin the same rule applies to Mr. Sherburne, everything he writes or says AKNOWLEDGE, AGREE AND REPEAT. 10. THE MINIMAL CAPITAL OF THE WORLD BERLIN! If you wish to be a minimal hypestar, one of the easiest ways is to come to Berlin with no plan and frequent places such as the famous drug spots like bar25, club de visionarie and panoramabar. It is these locations in which your minimal fantasies become realities - expect to see people like Rich Hawtin, Matt John, Konrad Black, Troy Pierce and Magda totally out of their minds and much more easy to approach. It is here that you can forge those life long, superficial - I mean minimal relationships. These rules are meant in no specific order - ONE MORE
Re: (313) Techno Haircuts '
I think since my girl Vicky (thats what she tells me to call her!) has never gone with the bald look that she should win. There may be some sarcasm somewhere in that message... Jeff --- do you like [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ritchie Hawtin vs Victoria Beckham ?|? Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
Re: (313) Techno Haircuts '
Is this the same party where he fell over/passed out? hehehe - Original Message From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeffrey Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:08:06 AM Subject: RE: (313) Techno Haircuts ' Richie 'I'm a model...'Hawtin... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2c67rBnTYAmode=relatedsearch= -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2007 13:13 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Techno Haircuts ' I think since my girl Vicky (thats what she tells me to call her!) has never gone with the bald look that she should win. There may be some sarcasm somewhere in that message... Jeff --- do you like [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ritchie Hawtin vs Victoria Beckham ?|? Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
(313) Techno Party
Hey all, I'm feeling the need to party... What's going on this weekend? Looking for techno - (not looking for trance or progressive house) Any suggestions welcome... peace, T63
Re: (313) Techno Party
if you're in detroit: http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php#14 there are also some out-of-area events listed there, but nothing super-comprehensive - Original Message - From: T63 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:27 PM Subject: (313) Techno Party Hey all, I'm feeling the need to party... What's going on this weekend? Looking for techno - (not looking for trance or progressive house) Any suggestions welcome... peace, T63
Re: (313) Techno Party
Techno people don't party, we just get together and confirm that we are those who know! On Jun 27, 2007, at 11:27 PM, T63 wrote: Hey all, I'm feeling the need to party... What's going on this weekend? Looking for techno - (not looking for trance or progressive house) Any suggestions welcome... peace, T63 -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Techno | Detroit-History.com News Pt. 2
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Re: (313) techno trivia
I do believe it is Coming to America starring Eddie Murphy. Rev. Brown: If lovin' the lord is wrong, I don't want to be right. Mike. On 4/19/07, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenny Larkin samples a line from movie in the Good God track on the FunkFaker: Music saves My Soul album. What movie is it from?
Re: (313) techno trivia
You got it! The prize: a box of donuts if you'll be at the fest On 4/18/07, Michael Bramwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do believe it is Coming to America starring Eddie Murphy. Rev. Brown: If lovin' the lord is wrong, I don't want to be right. Mike. On 4/19/07, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenny Larkin samples a line from movie in the Good God track on the FunkFaker: Music saves My Soul album. What movie is it from?
RE: (313) techno trivia
You know what? I don't think it's a sample. Ken -Original Message- From: Wojtek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2007 17:58 To: 313 313 Subject: (313) techno trivia Kenny Larkin samples a line from movie in the Good God track on the FunkFaker: Music saves My Soul album. What movie is it from?
RE: (313) techno trivia
Ok, that's the line but doesn't KL just actually speak it on the record, rather than play back a sample of it? -Original Message- From: pauley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2007 08:45 To: Odeluga, Ken Subject: RE: (313) techno trivia I thought it was 'if loving you is wrong i don't wannna be right', heard it on 'hustle and flow' (movie) You know what? I don't think it's a sample. Ken -Original Message- From: Wojtek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2007 17:58 To: 313 313 Subject: (313) techno trivia Kenny Larkin samples a line from movie in the Good God track on the FunkFaker: Music saves My Soul album. What movie is it from?
(313) techno trivia
Kenny Larkin samples a line from movie in the Good God track on the FunkFaker: Music saves My Soul album. What movie is it from?
(313) Techno / electro mix
Thought it was about time i did a detroit mix. So here it is. http://www.acidmixes.com/tekno.zip rename it to .mp3 once downloaded, ta Drexciya - Aqua Worm Hole - UR Los Hermanos - Tres - Los Hermanos UR - Enhanced Rhythm Perception - Somewhere in Detroit Jeff Mills - Time Mechanic - Axis Red Planet - Wardance - Red Planet Jeff Mills - Time Keeps slipping into the furute - Axis Ur- Codebreaker - UR Rhythim is Rhythim - Kaos - Transmat Drexciya - The Quest ep - Submerge UR - Windchime - UR Robert Hood / Jeff Mills - Minimal Nation mispress - axis The Deacon - Fuji- Somewhere in Detroit Delia Gonzalez Gavin Russom - Relevee - DFA Rhythim is Rhythim - The Beginning - Transmat Kraftwerk - Expo 2000 (FK mix) - Klang Teste - The Wipe - Probe UR - Entering Quadrant Five - UR Model 500 - Outer Space - Metroplex Reese - Powerbass - Incognito Laurent Garnier - Crispy Bacon - F Comm Final Exposure - VOrtex - Plus 8 Final Cut - Temptation - Big Sex DJ Rolando - Jaguar (Mayday Dub) - 430 West Carl craig - Fantastique - TB K alexi - My Medusa - Transmat Drexciya - Unchartered ep - Somewhere in Detroit Derrick May - Beforethereafter - Loopa , Ki/oon Records AS per done in one hit, 2 decks etc.. enjoy
(313) TECHNO ARCHITECT MILLS TO OPEN FASHION STORE
Maybe old news for some u...i found this on the web... If you are trained as an architect, and grow out to become one of the world's most prolific techno artists, why not start your own fashion store? The latter seems to be the case for Jeff Mills, who is starting out his own fashion store in downtown Chicago with his long time partner and Axis record head Yoko Uozumi. They recently started a project they call the Gamma Player Shop, as an expansion of what creative abilities they have and inspired by, or simply because Jeff doesn't want to be touring the globe at an older age, offering a selection of special international fashion brands, with an emphasis on Europe and Japan. Of course, music is not left out of the equation, as Mr. Mills has compiled a CD for the special opening of the store, labeled The Universe By Night, offering a host of special edits and previously unreleased tracks. Although we debate whether techno is so suitable for an up market, 'haute couture' fashion store, Mills is by no means the only techno icon to delve into fashion. What to think of Ellen Allien, who recently announced her own clothing line? The Gamma Player shop will open March 15. The track listing to its opening soundtrack is included below. Track Listing: 1. 14 Dreams 2. Gamma Player 3. The March 4. The Art of Barrier Breaking 5. Now Is The Time 6. The Nomads of Niger 7. Time Machine 3 8. Place De La Bastille 9. Gata 10. Moody 11. Dr. Ice 12. Man From Tomorrow 13. Micro Terra 14. Healing Channel 15 Time Machine 7 16. Sleeping Giant Regards, Martijn
Re: (313) TECHNO ARCHITECT MILLS TO OPEN FASHION STORE
cool. i believe its located on division street in the wicker park chicago area. its also where their label offices are based. On Mar 1, 2007, at 4:08 AM, Blaauw, Martijn de wrote: Maybe old news for some u...i found this on the web... If you are trained as an architect, and grow out to become one of the world's most prolific techno artists, why not start your own fashion store? The latter seems to be the case for Jeff Mills, who is starting out his own fashion store in downtown Chicago with his long time partner and Axis record head Yoko Uozumi. They recently started a project they call the Gamma Player Shop, as an expansion of what creative abilities they have and inspired by, or simply because Jeff doesn't want to be touring the globe at an older age, offering a selection of special international fashion brands, with an emphasis on Europe and Japan. Of course, music is not left out of the equation, as Mr. Mills has compiled a CD for the special opening of the store, labeled The Universe By Night, offering a host of special edits and previously unreleased tracks. Although we debate whether techno is so suitable for an up market, 'haute couture' fashion store, Mills is by no means the only techno icon to delve into fashion. What to think of Ellen Allien, who recently announced her own clothing line? The Gamma Player shop will open March 15. The track listing to its opening soundtrack is included below. Track Listing: 1. 14 Dreams 2. Gamma Player 3. The March 4. The Art of Barrier Breaking 5. Now Is The Time 6. The Nomads of Niger 7. Time Machine 3 8. Place De La Bastille 9. Gata 10. Moody 11. Dr. Ice 12. Man From Tomorrow 13. Micro Terra 14. Healing Channel 15 Time Machine 7 16. Sleeping Giant Regards, Martijn
Re: (313) TECHNO ARCHITECT MILLS TO OPEN FASHION STORE
Yeah, it's four blocks from my girlfriend's house... I'll check it and report back after it opens. ~David On 3/1/07, marina pure sonik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool. i believe its located on division street in the wicker park chicago area. its also where their label offices are based. On Mar 1, 2007, at 4:08 AM, Blaauw, Martijn de wrote: Maybe old news for some u...i found this on the web... If you are trained as an architect, and grow out to become one of the world's most prolific techno artists, why not start your own fashion store? The latter seems to be the case for Jeff Mills, who is starting out his own fashion store in downtown Chicago with his long time partner and Axis record head Yoko Uozumi. They recently started a project they call the Gamma Player Shop, as an expansion of what creative abilities they have and inspired by, or simply because Jeff doesn't want to be touring the globe at an older age, offering a selection of special international fashion brands, with an emphasis on Europe and Japan. Of course, music is not left out of the equation, as Mr. Mills has compiled a CD for the special opening of the store, labeled The Universe By Night, offering a host of special edits and previously unreleased tracks. Although we debate whether techno is so suitable for an up market, 'haute couture' fashion store, Mills is by no means the only techno icon to delve into fashion. What to think of Ellen Allien, who recently announced her own clothing line? The Gamma Player shop will open March 15. The track listing to its opening soundtrack is included below. Track Listing: 1. 14 Dreams 2. Gamma Player 3. The March 4. The Art of Barrier Breaking 5. Now Is The Time 6. The Nomads of Niger 7. Time Machine 3 8. Place De La Bastille 9. Gata 10. Moody 11. Dr. Ice 12. Man From Tomorrow 13. Micro Terra 14. Healing Channel 15 Time Machine 7 16. Sleeping Giant Regards, Martijn
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On 3/1/07, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, it's four blocks from my girlfriend's house... I'll check it and report back after it opens. pick yourself up a black turtleneck or something while youre there! ;) tom
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Please take photos! And let us know how overpriced yet comfortable the black turtleneck is. Note: Sean Combs Diddy makes more money from his clothing line than he does from record sales (not that I know anyone who has bought either). -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:33 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) TECHNO ARCHITECT MILLS TO OPEN FASHION STORE On 3/1/07, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, it's four blocks from my girlfriend's house... I'll check it and report back after it opens. pick yourself up a black turtleneck or something while youre there! ;) tom
(313) techno w/flecks of jazz
Happy Friday everyone! Doing a bit o'shopping and I'd like some suggestions. Would like to find some deep melodic techno stuff - Delsin, Arne, etc. with some jazz influences - O'Brien, As One, etc. Something overlooked or not on a label that usually does that? Anything that combines electro with jazz without being electro-jazz? Faster but slower? ;-) I've got MONEY people! Help me spend it! MEK
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Have you looked into the Music For Speakers or the Sonar Kollektiv-offshoot cupboard? jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy Friday everyone! Doing a bit o'shopping and I'd like some suggestions. Would like to find some deep melodic techno stuff - Delsin, Arne, etc. with some jazz influences - O'Brien, As One, etc. Something overlooked or not on a label that usually does that? Anything that combines electro with jazz without being electro-jazz? Faster but slower? ;-) I've got MONEY people! Help me spend it! MEK
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My advice is to check the (past and current) tracklistings for Gilles Peterson's radio show on BBC Radio 1 (www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/gillespeterson). Every week he plays stuff which blows me away. It may border less on the electro/techno side and more on the broken beat/soul/funk/latin side but it is definitely melodic and sometimes electonic and hopefully you'll dig it! Peace, N Happy Friday everyone! Doing a bit o'shopping and I'd like some suggestions. Would like to find some deep melodic techno stuff - Delsin, Arne, etc. with some jazz influences - O'Brien, As One, etc. Something overlooked or not on a label that usually does that? Anything that combines electro with jazz without being electro-jazz? Faster but slower? ;-) I've got MONEY people! Help me spend it! MEK
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check the hammond mix over at sonicsunset ;) fab - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: (313) techno w/flecks of jazz Happy Friday everyone! Doing a bit o'shopping and I'd like some suggestions. Would like to find some deep melodic techno stuff - Delsin, Arne, etc. with some jazz influences - O'Brien, As One, etc. Something overlooked or not on a label that usually does that? Anything that combines electro with jazz without being electro-jazz? Faster but slower? ;-) I've got MONEY people! Help me spend it! MEK
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Just listening to that now. Up to the usual stupidly high quality Nice one Matt/Dave. *still mourning the end of the era* robin... fab. wrote: check the hammond mix over at sonicsunset ;)
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in a kind of kompakt flavored minimal tech jazz style, i'd recommend: dell flugel - superstructure (on laboratory instincts) and if you feel like chasing down something rare-ish, there's the jimi tenor, mika vaino collaboration: kosmos - kosmos (on sahko or puu) this one is a raw blend of proper minimal techno and jazz. if you haven't checked them, some of the the compost black label releases have both jazz and techno elements. i don't recall which... and i'm personally loving the new(ish) dimlite album, has a bit of this flavor, but is more of a sampler workout. totally brilliant, though. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 2, 2007 8:06:46 AM Subject: (313) techno w/flecks of jazz Happy Friday everyone! Doing a bit o'shopping and I'd like some suggestions. Would like to find some deep melodic techno stuff - Delsin, Arne, etc. with some jazz influences - O'Brien, As One, etc. Something overlooked or not on a label that usually does that? Anything that combines electro with jazz without being electro-jazz? Faster but slower? ;-) I've got MONEY people! Help me spend it! MEK
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nubian mindz album on archive, http://www.discogs.com/release/4822 this is a good comp: http://www.discogs.com/release/90898 max brennan album: http://www.discogs.com/release/80066 On 02/02/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy Friday everyone! Doing a bit o'shopping and I'd like some suggestions. Would like to find some deep melodic techno stuff - Delsin, Arne, etc. with some jazz influences - O'Brien, As One, etc. Something overlooked or not on a label that usually does that? Anything that combines electro with jazz without being electro-jazz? Faster but slower? ;-) I've got MONEY people! Help me spend it! MEK
(313) techno mix- geddes
great techno mix - geddes- on samurai fm www.samurai.fm does anyone know what that first track is? Cheers Paul
RE: (313) techno mentalism
Hello Damian. I'm glad to read that you're still creating. (When you've time, I'd be interested in any links to your audio which you might be able to direct me to.) As for writing on BC, Kodwo Eshun wrote what turned out to be amongst the most memorable articles (possibly the most pretentious too!) on Basic Channel, in the aforementioned 'Wire'. You can find it (don't know if it's *all* of it) in these Jahsonic.com pages. Read it quick because naughty, naughty it's 'reprinted without permission' http://www.jahsonic.com/BasicChannel.html Ken
(313) techno mentalism
hey can anyone recommend any verbal or theoretical looks at the deeper dubbier side of techno? i was chatting with my flatmate last night (she's a musician but doesn't much listen to electronic music) and we realised that there were very little in the way of words or ideas that we could use to describe the things we were feeling, listening to some ultra-minimal tape hiss submerged dubby stuff (qnb001, http://netlabel.qunabu.com/). most of the techno discussion groups i'm involved with circle more around the politics and the new releases and the scene, and less around the actual music, the sounds and the shapes of the noises that in fact make up what it is that we are hearing; what they might mean, what it might mean to listen to them, why it is that we as humans like to listen to what is on some (albeat superficial) levels the same thing over and over again... theoretically there would seem to be obvious parallels with the 1970s breed of orchestral minimalism (steve reich/terry riley/etc) but from my searches it doesn't look like there's much in the way of writings or ideas connecting the 1970s to the 2000s. any recommendations for things i should read/mailing lists i should join/forums i should follow? thanks damian -- f r e y live music with machines http://www.frey.co.nz
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the UK magazine The Wire has had some articles about Basic Channel such, but a few minutes with google turned up not much. If you're in New Zealand, I imagine getting copies of The Wire is expensive, and finding an archive of back issues to search through pretty much impossible. Honestly there's very little 'serious' writing about techno and dance music. Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels http://tinyurl.com/frm8f is more about the history of Detroit artists than a study of the music itself. Unlocking the Groove by Mark J Butler gets very deep into the subject but isn't so much about dub techno in particular. http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=22615 I found a lot more searching just on dub, and dub techno is directly derived from Jamaican dub. http://tinyurl.com/ezo3s -- Jesus Dub by Robert Beckford The 313 archive may be the most valuable place to do research, because people have been blabbering about dubby techno since it first began. http://elists.resynthesize.com/313/ Search on dub, basic channel, chain reaction, anything else. Cheers for the link to that net label, I am always looking for music in that vein if its well done. I don't know if you're at University, but popular electronic music is a pretty fertile area for academic research. I know a few people who've done some work in that area, but unlike, for example, renaissance lute music, it's not a crowded field yet. Of course, once you start doing any academic work on popular music you have to overcome resistance from the established community who don't think popular music is worth considering as art. The people in the composition department at our local University get mad if anything contains a steady rhythm -- I guess once Stockhausen said regular beats are fascist, they figured that was the end of the story. On 9/23/06, Damian Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey can anyone recommend any verbal or theoretical looks at the deeper dubbier side of techno? i was chatting with my flatmate last night (she's a musician but doesn't much listen to electronic music) and we realised that there were very little in the way of words or ideas that we could use to describe the things we were feeling, listening to some ultra-minimal tape hiss submerged dubby stuff (qnb001, http://netlabel.qunabu.com/). most of the techno discussion groups i'm involved with circle more around the politics and the new releases and the scene, and less around the actual music, the sounds and the shapes of the noises that in fact make up what it is that we are hearing; what they might mean, what it might mean to listen to them, why it is that we as humans like to listen to what is on some (albeat superficial) levels the same thing over and over again... theoretically there would seem to be obvious parallels with the 1970s breed of orchestral minimalism (steve reich/terry riley/etc) but from my searches it doesn't look like there's much in the way of writings or ideas connecting the 1970s to the 2000s. any recommendations for things i should read/mailing lists i should join/forums i should follow? thanks damian -- f r e y live music with machines http://www.frey.co.nz
