Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-28 Thread dan

At 11:26 pm -0400 27/4/05, darnistle wrote:

Jason Brunton wrote:

I've got mixed feelings on the matter- it's 
great when you finally track down a record 
you've been after (sometimes for YEARS), not so 
nice when you have to pay more than a 
"reasonable" amount for it  (about £20-25 is 
the most I've ever paid for something, and 
rarely over a tenner).  We had a guy call the 
shop last week who wanted a whole load of Chain 
Reaction releases but ONLY if they were in the 
original "brown card" sleeves and NOT the "new" 
black ones- that's when it gets a bit silly for 
me- we had them all so he was happy but it just 
struck me as strange that he would have knocked 
them back had they been in a different sleeve!




Yes, that does sound a trifle silly.


seems reasonable to me ;)


Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-28 Thread darnistle

Jason Brunton wrote:

I've got mixed feelings on the matter- it's great when you finally 
track down a record you've been after (sometimes for YEARS), not so 
nice when you have to pay more than a "reasonable" amount for it  
(about £20-25 is the most I've ever paid for something, and rarely 
over a tenner).  We had a guy call the shop last week who wanted a 
whole load of Chain Reaction releases but ONLY if they were in the 
original "brown card" sleeves and NOT the "new" black ones- that's 
when it gets a bit silly for me- we had them all so he was happy but 
it just struck me as strange that he would have knocked them back had 
they been in a different sleeve!




Yes, that does sound a trifle silly.

I scour the used bins religiously, so I usually don't spend more than 
US$8 but some things are precious enough to me that I'd be willing to 
pay a lot for them.  I've never paid more than US$50 for anything, and 
even then it was only for things I'd been searching for for so long that 
I would have been stupid to not buy it when I finally found it.


It has only happened a few times that I've spent a lot of money on 
something only to have it show up in the budget bin for a few dollars or 
be reissued at a much lower price.  But why get mad when I can just get 
another copy?  At least then I know that I can play one as much as I 
want and still have a backup that's in good condition? ;)


Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-27 Thread alex . bond

>

there's gonna be a bloodbath down piccadilly records at lunch.

you know that film "american warewolf in london"?

well I'm doing a re-make at lunch. "rootless loony pikey in record shop
rampage"

anyone got a video camera I can borrow? It's gonna be fun.
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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-27 Thread Jari Tolkkinen

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I can assure you it's already on vinyl. And piccadilly has it. We're
talking about the crosses single right?




Thanks for the heads up Jari.


Always a pleasure :)

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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-27 Thread alex . bond

>I can assure you it's already on vinyl. And piccadilly has it. We're
>talking about the crosses single right?

*FIRES UP FLAMETHROWER*

OH BOY, SOMEONE IS GETTING IT BIGTIME AT LUNCH. THAT BIG PIKEY LONG HAIRED
SKIP RAT WHO CALLS HIMSELF A RECORD SALESMAN FOR STARTERS.

WATCH OUT SKIP-RAT, I KNOW YOU'RE THERE.

Thanks for the heads up Jari.
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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-27 Thread Jari Tolkkinen

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hope the weathers ok up there in the north pole


Sunny, warm :) I can go outside without a cap etc. Good times.


I dont think its been on vinyl yet, I keep waiting, but no sign. my
friendly local record shop best not have had it, or I shall be firing up
the flamethrower.


I can assure you it's already on vinyl. And piccadilly has it. We're 
talking about the crosses single right?


http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/mp3/Jose%20Gonzalez%20-%20Crosses%20Jori%20Hulkkonen%20Remix.mp3

Start your engines or flamethrowers.

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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-27 Thread alex . bond

>It's been out ages ago man :) Piccadilly had it almost a month ago. The
promo
circulated last year... The Jori Hulkkonen remix of Crosses makes me weep.
It's
so &¤#/ beautiful.

hey jari!

hope the weathers ok up there in the north pole

; )

I dont think its been on vinyl yet, I keep waiting, but no sign. my
friendly local record shop best not have had it, or I shall be firing up
the flamethrower.

But yes, I believe it's on CD. I can't bring myself to buy cd's though
really. I find it difficult. Not impossible, but I'd still rather buy a
record I think.

Alex


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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Oh, by the way Mike Veeck, the son of the Sox's promotion manager at the
time, now manages the St. Paul Saints (minor league) and their stadium is
right by my new house:

The Northern League St. Paul Saints, a team that Mike Veeck now presides
over, celebrated the 25th anniversary of Disco Demolition on Saturday [this
is a 2004 article]. The Saints allowed fans to bring disco records to the
ballpark in exchange for one Saints buck, and the records were destroyed
between innings of their game against Schaumburg.

"Disco Demolition Night has been a 10,000 pound gorilla on Mike's back for
25 years," Saints VP Derek Sharrer said. "We think revisiting that infamous
event will be a healthy exercise for him. Hopefully, we'll get it right
this time."

lovely :^/

MEK



   
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the majority of records that were brought in by attendees at Comiskey Park
weren't disco records but they were records by black artists.  Seems it was
more of a racist "rock & roll white guy" event in violent reaction to black
pride and gay liberation.  I recall either seeing or hearing a short
interview with a woman who was working the ticket gate that night and she
was surprised at what records they were bringing in to blow up.  Being
black herself, she was getting quite afraid that the night would irrupt
into a race riot.  I'll see if I can find the source.

MEK



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The thought of a stadium full of techno being burnt is horrible.
But for those that don't know the "Official end of disco" happened this
way, kinda.
http://promomagazine.com/news/breakingnews/disco_died/

...steve...

Stoddard, Kamal wrote:

>That's what the fxck I'm talkin 'bout! Me and curtis were talking about
this the other day. He goes, "if records are rare, who the fxck's got
'em?!! Cause they sure aren't playing 'em. Whether the stingy bxstards are
showing them off to friends/other geeks or waiting to cart the whole lot
out to comisky park again,  It's the same motivation. Using records to
prove an ego-point. Not to move the body. They need to come off that shxt."
. 'Bout fell off my legs laughing, because I know more than my share of
house/disco "collectors" that go on about the comisky park incident and how
those people had no respect for the vinyl and all that. Hahahaha.
>
>Yo tom, I'm going down curtis' tomorrow, so...smoke 'em if you got 'em...
>
>Kamal K. Stoddard
>Turner Broadcasting Systems
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:32 PM
>>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: (313) peacefrog
>>
>>
>>-- Original Message --
>>From: Jason Brunton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I've got mixed feelings on the matter- it's great when you finally
>>>track down a record you've been after (sometimes for YEARS), not so
>>>nice when you have to pay more than a "reasonable" amount
>>>
>>>
>>for it (about
>>
>>
>>>£20-25 is the most I've ever paid for something, and
>>>
&g

Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




the majority of records that were brought in by attendees at Comiskey Park
weren't disco records but they were records by black artists.  Seems it was
more of a racist "rock & roll white guy" event in violent reaction to black
pride and gay liberation.  I recall either seeing or hearing a short
interview with a woman who was working the ticket gate that night and she
was surprised at what records they were bringing in to blow up.  Being
black herself, she was getting quite afraid that the night would irrupt
into a race riot.  I'll see if I can find the source.

MEK


   
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The thought of a stadium full of techno being burnt is horrible.
But for those that don't know the "Official end of disco" happened this
way, kinda.
http://promomagazine.com/news/breakingnews/disco_died/

...steve...

Stoddard, Kamal wrote:

>That's what the fxck I'm talkin 'bout! Me and curtis were talking about
this the other day. He goes, "if records are rare, who the fxck's got
'em?!! Cause they sure aren't playing 'em. Whether the stingy bxstards are
showing them off to friends/other geeks or waiting to cart the whole lot
out to comisky park again,  It's the same motivation. Using records to
prove an ego-point. Not to move the body. They need to come off that shxt."
. 'Bout fell off my legs laughing, because I know more than my share of
house/disco "collectors" that go on about the comisky park incident and how
those people had no respect for the vinyl and all that. Hahahaha.
>
>Yo tom, I'm going down curtis' tomorrow, so...smoke 'em if you got 'em...
>
>Kamal K. Stoddard
>Turner Broadcasting Systems
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:32 PM
>>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: (313) peacefrog
>>
>>
>>-- Original Message --
>>From: Jason Brunton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I've got mixed feelings on the matter- it's great when you finally
>>>track down a record you've been after (sometimes for YEARS), not so
>>>nice when you have to pay more than a "reasonable" amount
>>>
>>>
>>for it (about
>>
>>
>>>£20-25 is the most I've ever paid for something, and
>>>
>>>
>>rarely over
>>
>>
>>>a tenner).  We had a guy call the shop last week who wanted a whole
>>>load of Chain Reaction releases but ONLY if they were in the
>>>
>>>
>>original
>>
>>
>>>"brown card" sleeves and NOT the "new" black ones- that's when it
>>>
>>>
>>gets
>>
>>
>>>a bit silly for me- we had them all so he was happy but it just
>>>
>>>
>>struck
>>
>>
>>>me as strange that he would have knocked them back had they been
>>>
>>>
>>in a
>>
>>
>>>different sleeve!
>>>
>>>
>>thats just total nonsense. personally, i wish everyone who
>>made good music kept it in press all the time. change the
>>labels, i dont care. i dont like buying bootlegs so i wont.
>>legit reissues im  super cool with, like all the transmats
>>and KMS that have come out in the last year. im less likely
>>to be down with comps since they probably only paid out a
>>flat fee to license those tunes, but in extreme cases (the
>>arthur russel one on soul jazz with "in the light of the
>>miracle" on it) ill go for that too. i dont give a crap about
>>a record's rarity. the number of deejays playing actually
>>good records already makes it a rarity to hear good stuff as
>>it is. i just play good music.
>>
>>tom
>>
>>
>>andythepooh.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>





Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: Jason Brunton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>I agree, it's also nice to play music from well known artists that 
>isn't so well known as well though- like I doubt I'd ever play Flash 
>"Fix" out as I have whole bunch of other records by Orlando that are 
>equally good and don't get played by many people, so sometimes I'm 
>playing deliberately different without trying to be deliberately 
>"eclectic" or "underground"- if you know what I mean!

hehe. i can relate to that for sure. i like to play all different
kinds of cuts from my favorite artists, not just the obvious ones.
there's so much stuff out there aside from the joints that
everyone knows. i love digging for obscure records, not
necessarily the rare joints or the anthems. ill pick those up too,
but i really like playing the stuff no one is talking about and
getting people to dance to it. 

>PS I'm afraid that economics dictates that I occasionally do buy 
>bootlegs  though!

i have maybe like 4 or 5 bootlegs, all of tunes i dont think ill
be getting any time soon. id buy legit represses of them all if
they were available. i dont usually spend much money on records
(only ever spent more than $20 on a records 3 times) so i just
wait for the good stuff to fall into my hands for cheap ;) 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The thought of a stadium full of techno being burnt is horrible.
But for those that don't know the "Official end of disco" happened this 
way, kinda.

http://promomagazine.com/news/breakingnews/disco_died/

...steve...

Stoddard, Kamal wrote:

That's what the fxck I'm talkin 'bout! Me and curtis were talking about this the other day. He goes, "if records are rare, who the fxck's got 'em?!! Cause they sure aren't playing 'em. Whether the stingy bxstards are showing them off to friends/other geeks or waiting to cart the whole lot out to comisky park again,  It's the same motivation. Using records to prove an ego-point. Not to move the body. They need to come off that shxt." . 'Bout fell off my legs laughing, because I know more than my share of house/disco "collectors" that go on about the comisky park incident and how those people had no respect for the vinyl and all that. Hahahaha. 


Yo tom, I'm going down curtis' tomorrow, so...smoke 'em if you got 'em...

Kamal K. Stoddard
Turner Broadcasting Systems





 


-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:32 PM

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) peacefrog


-- Original Message --
From: Jason Brunton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   

I've got mixed feelings on the matter- it's great when you finally 
track down a record you've been after (sometimes for YEARS), not so 
nice when you have to pay more than a "reasonable" amount 
 

for it (about 
   


£20-25 is the most I've ever paid for something, and
 

rarely over 
   

a tenner).  We had a guy call the shop last week who wanted a whole 
load of Chain Reaction releases but ONLY if they were in the
 

original 
   


"brown card" sleeves and NOT the "new" black ones- that's when it
 

gets 
   


a bit silly for me- we had them all so he was happy but it just
 

struck 
   


me as strange that he would have knocked them back had they been
 

in a 
   


different sleeve!
 

thats just total nonsense. personally, i wish everyone who 
made good music kept it in press all the time. change the 
labels, i dont care. i dont like buying bootlegs so i wont. 
legit reissues im  super cool with, like all the transmats 
and KMS that have come out in the last year. im less likely 
to be down with comps since they probably only paid out a 
flat fee to license those tunes, but in extreme cases (the 
arthur russel one on soul jazz with "in the light of the 
miracle" on it) ill go for that too. i dont give a crap about 
a record's rarity. the number of deejays playing actually 
good records already makes it a rarity to hear good stuff as 
it is. i just play good music. 

tom 



andythepooh.com



  

   





RE: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
That's what the fxck I'm talkin 'bout! Me and curtis were talking about this 
the other day. He goes, "if records are rare, who the fxck's got 'em?!! Cause 
they sure aren't playing 'em. Whether the stingy bxstards are showing them off 
to friends/other geeks or waiting to cart the whole lot out to comisky park 
again,  It's the same motivation. Using records to prove an ego-point. Not to 
move the body. They need to come off that shxt." . 'Bout fell off my legs 
laughing, because I know more than my share of house/disco "collectors" that go 
on about the comisky park incident and how those people had no respect for the 
vinyl and all that. Hahahaha. 

Yo tom, I'm going down curtis' tomorrow, so...smoke 'em if you got 'em...

Kamal K. Stoddard
Turner Broadcasting Systems
 


 

> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:32 PM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) peacefrog
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: Jason Brunton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >I've got mixed feelings on the matter- it's great when you finally 
> >track down a record you've been after (sometimes for YEARS), not so 
> >nice when you have to pay more than a "reasonable" amount 
> for it (about 
> >£20-25 is the most I've ever paid for something, and
> rarely over 
> >a tenner).  We had a guy call the shop last week who wanted a whole 
> >load of Chain Reaction releases but ONLY if they were in the
> original 
> >"brown card" sleeves and NOT the "new" black ones- that's when it
> gets 
> >a bit silly for me- we had them all so he was happy but it just
> struck 
> >me as strange that he would have knocked them back had they been
> in a 
> >different sleeve!
> 
> thats just total nonsense. personally, i wish everyone who 
> made good music kept it in press all the time. change the 
> labels, i dont care. i dont like buying bootlegs so i wont. 
> legit reissues im  super cool with, like all the transmats 
> and KMS that have come out in the last year. im less likely 
> to be down with comps since they probably only paid out a 
> flat fee to license those tunes, but in extreme cases (the 
> arthur russel one on soul jazz with "in the light of the 
> miracle" on it) ill go for that too. i dont give a crap about 
> a record's rarity. the number of deejays playing actually 
> good records already makes it a rarity to hear good stuff as 
> it is. i just play good music. 
> 
> tom 
> 
> 
> andythepooh.com
> 
> 
>  
>
> 


Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Jason Brunton

the number of deejays playing
actually good records already makes it a rarity to hear good stuff
as it is. i just play good music.



I agree, it's also nice to play music from well known artists that 
isn't so well known as well though- like I doubt I'd ever play Flash 
"Fix" out as I have whole bunch of other records by Orlando that are 
equally good and don't get played by many people, so sometimes I'm 
playing deliberately different without trying to be deliberately 
"eclectic" or "underground"- if you know what I mean!


Jason

PS I'm afraid that economics dictates that I occasionally do buy 
bootlegs  though!

tom


andythepooh.com









Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

-- Original Message --
From: Jason Brunton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>I've got mixed feelings on the matter- it's great when you finally
>track down a record you've been after (sometimes for YEARS), not so
>nice when you have to pay more than a "reasonable" amount for it
>(about £20-25 is the most I've ever paid for something, and
rarely over
>a tenner).  We had a guy call the shop last week who wanted a whole
>load of Chain Reaction releases but ONLY if they were in the
original
>"brown card" sleeves and NOT the "new" black ones- that's when it
gets
>a bit silly for me- we had them all so he was happy but it just
struck
>me as strange that he would have knocked them back had they been
in a
>different sleeve!

thats just total nonsense. personally, i wish everyone who made
good music kept it in press all the time. change the labels, i
dont care. i dont like buying bootlegs so i wont. legit reissues
im  super cool with, like all the transmats and KMS that have come
out in the last year. im less likely to be down with comps since
they probably only paid out a flat fee to license those tunes, but
in extreme cases (the arthur russel one on soul jazz with "in the
light of the miracle" on it) ill go for that too. i dont give a
crap about a record's rarity. the number of deejays playing
actually good records already makes it a rarity to hear good stuff
as it is. i just play good music.

tom


andythepooh.com







Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Jason Brunton
I've got mixed feelings on the matter- it's great when you finally 
track down a record you've been after (sometimes for YEARS), not so 
nice when you have to pay more than a "reasonable" amount for it  
(about £20-25 is the most I've ever paid for something, and rarely over 
a tenner).  We had a guy call the shop last week who wanted a whole 
load of Chain Reaction releases but ONLY if they were in the original 
"brown card" sleeves and NOT the "new" black ones- that's when it gets 
a bit silly for me- we had them all so he was happy but it just struck 
me as strange that he would have knocked them back had they been in a 
different sleeve!


cheers

Jason

On 26 Apr 2005, at 16:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




if you collect music for any reason other than the fact that its
good, you get what you deserve when it gets reissued.


rubbish.

did you never pay top dollar for something you really wanted?
only to be gutted when someone re-issued it, so every tom dick and 
harry

can have it to play?

time, money and effort goes into finding bits and bobs that you can 
call

your own.


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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Jason Brunton
I'm fairly sure this had been pre-sold with us so it should be out in 
the next wee or so_ i'll double check tomorrow


cheers

Jason

PS We sold the last of our Target releases (original pressings) 
recently for the grand sum of £7.50 each :(



On 26 Apr 2005, at 16:50, Placid wrote:

funnily enough i emailed them the other day asking the very same 
thing..  i got no response.


I'm quite up for some joe r lewis on decent pressing to be honest.

Not as if the targets are going to go down in value.

p



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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>hmm. dunno. I confused meself.
>
>but, either way, don't tell him I MIGHT agree with him.
>
>; )

ha! im saving this email ;) 

tom 


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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>if you collect music for any reason other than the fact that its
>>>good, you get what you deserve when it gets reissued.
>> 
>> 
>> rubbish.
>> 
>> did you never pay top dollar for something you really wanted?
>> only to be gutted when someone re-issued it, so every tom dick
and harry
>> can have it to play?
>> 
>> time, money and effort goes into finding bits and bobs that you
can call
>> your own.
>> 
>
>i'm sure tom will answer for himself but you're buying it for the
reason 
>it's good (and rare, but mainly cos it's good)
>
>so you agree with him no?
>
>:)

for example, i paid a decent bit of cash for KDJ 003 with the
non-repressed b sides on it. when 161 had the represses listed
recently, they had the b sides listed on 003. my initial reaction
was "sweet, now i can have a backup for only a couple dollars!" 

of course they werent on the repress anyway ;) 

but thats why i usually dont spend crazy cash on records. it has
to be something i REALLY REALLY want, and its rarity no longer
matters. 

tom

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread alex . bond

>i'm sure tom will answer for himself but you're buying it for the reason
>it's good (and rare, but mainly cos it's good)
>so you agree with him no?

hmm. dunno. I confused meself.

but, either way, don't tell him I MIGHT agree with him.

; )
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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread robin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

if you collect music for any reason other than the fact that its
good, you get what you deserve when it gets reissued.



rubbish.

did you never pay top dollar for something you really wanted?
only to be gutted when someone re-issued it, so every tom dick and harry
can have it to play?

time, money and effort goes into finding bits and bobs that you can call
your own.



i'm sure tom will answer for himself but you're buying it for the reason 
it's good (and rare, but mainly cos it's good)


so you agree with him no?

:)



robin...


Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread alex . bond

>funnily enough i emailed them the other day asking the very same
>thing..  i got no response.

hmm.

Its been on promo a while now. since early feb? maybe even earlier.

guess its imminent. nothing about it on their site tho. wonder if theres a
12 coming too.

>I'm quite up for some joe r lewis on decent pressing to be honest.
>Not as if the targets are going to go down in value.

true.

was only pulling your leg anyway.

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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread alex . bond

>if you collect music for any reason other than the fact that its
>good, you get what you deserve when it gets reissued.

rubbish.

did you never pay top dollar for something you really wanted?
only to be gutted when someone re-issued it, so every tom dick and harry
can have it to play?

time, money and effort goes into finding bits and bobs that you can call
your own.


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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Placid
funnily enough i emailed them the other day asking the very same 
thing..  i got no response.


I'm quite up for some joe r lewis on decent pressing to be honest.

Not as if the targets are going to go down in value.

p



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and, while we're on the subject of Paeacefrog, WHERES THE JOE LEWIS
 


LP??/!

it was promo-d ages ago, anyone seen it?
   



 


didnt even hear about this, was it supposed to be old stuff or new?
   



Old.

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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: "Maarten Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>It would be nice to have something like that Stasis
retrospective. But that
>wouldn't make the collectors happy, I guess. Placid?

if you collect music for any reason other than the fact that its
good, you get what you deserve when it gets reissued. 

tom 




andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread alex . bond

>>and, while we're on the subject of Paeacefrog, WHERES THE JOE LEWIS
>LP??/!
>
>it was promo-d ages ago, anyone seen it?

>didnt even hear about this, was it supposed to be old stuff or new?

Old.

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Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Maarten Baute
> >and, while we're on the subject of Paeacefrog, WHERES THE JOE LEWIS
> >LP??/!
> >
> >it was promo-d ages ago, anyone seen it?
>
> didnt even hear about this, was it supposed to be old stuff or new?

It would be nice to have something like that Stasis retrospective. But that
wouldn't make the collectors happy, I guess. Placid?

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>and, while we're on the subject of Paeacefrog, WHERES THE JOE LEWIS
>LP??/!
>
>it was promo-d ages ago, anyone seen it?

didnt even hear about this, was it supposed to be old stuff or new? 

on that giles peterson show with theo, giles drops this ridiculous
new recloose joint that im guessing is forthcoming on the album.
its not quite as hot as dust, but its still absolute bananas.
recloose is on some sh*t these days. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: (313) peacefrog on bleep.com

2004-12-14 Thread yussel
i can with my magic hack =P



On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Martin Dust wrote:

> You can't be using the files from Bleep then *lol*
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:19 PM
> Subject: Re: (313) peacefrog on bleep.com
>
>
> >i find it easier to make my KDJ bootleg edits when i have a high quality
> > digital file to work with. ;)
> >
>
>
>


Re: (313) peacefrog on bleep.com

2004-12-14 Thread Martin Dust

You can't be using the files from Bleep then *lol*


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i find it easier to make my KDJ bootleg edits when i have a high quality
digital file to work with. ;)






Re: (313) peacefrog on bleep.com

2004-12-14 Thread yussel
i find it easier to make my KDJ bootleg edits when i have a high quality
digital file to work with. ;)


On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

> -- Original Message --
> From: "jwan allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >What's so great about that? Call me old fashioned, but since I
> already have the necessary titles on the list found below, as a
> consumer, why would I care if these titles are now available on
> bleep?
>
> news flash: not everyone has every record you have. i know there
> are records you dont have too : P
>
> tom
>
> 
> andythepooh.com
>
>
>
>
>


Re: (313) peacefrog on bleep.com

2004-12-14 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: "jwan allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>What's so great about that? Call me old fashioned, but since I 
already have the necessary titles on the list found below, as a 
consumer, why would I care if these titles are now available on 
bleep? 

news flash: not everyone has every record you have. i know there 
are records you dont have too : P

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: (313) peacefrog on bleep.com

2004-12-14 Thread jwan allen
What's so great about that? Call me old fashioned, but since I already have the 
necessary titles on the list found below, as a consumer, why would I care if 
these titles are now available on bleep? As a label co-owner I would need to 
research if such a service would be beneficial for our small operation. But 
does this type of service actually dissuade those sites such as jet groove (or 
whatever they are called now) from pilfering legal mp3s (or other unauthorized 
mp3s from P2P networks) and selling them without permission?

jwan


"Bring the Fun In!"
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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:15:05 +

>moodyman - black mahogani i/ii, silence in the sercet garden, mahogany
>brown
>
>kenny larkin - narcissist
>lucien n luciano - blind behaviour
>nouvelle vague - nouvelle vague
>suburban knight - my sol dark direction
>jello - voile, lungbone
>stasis - inspiration, from the old to the new
>theo parrish - first floor
>luke slater - x tront vol. 2  (holy old school!!!)
>v/a - 10.100, 10.100.02
>v/a - deletions i, ii, iii
>
>
>
>playhouse, klang, and ghostly. now this. good deal. i hope kompakt and
>perlon are soon to follow...
>
>
 

 
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RE: (313) Peacefrog on sale

2004-01-16 Thread Dave Cronin
anybody know what kind of duties one should expect to pay ordering from the
UK to be shipped to the States?

thanks,
d

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> Subject: (313) Peacefrog on sale
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Just landed in my mailbox
> 
> Peacefrog are offering a 50% reduction on selected vinyl
> releases
> throughout January.
> 
> Please visit http://www.peacefrog.com for more details.
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Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread Jason Brunton
Wow Marsel- don't know who does your mastering, pressing, artwork, 
postage and promos but if they can do all that for 1000 Euros they 
would be my new best friend :)


Jason Brunton


On Tuesday, September 23, 2003, at 02:38 PM, Marsel van der Wielen 
wrote:




a little more then 1000 euro should be enough to put out 500 records
incl. promotion, promo postage etc

and when you sell everything there's 400 euro profit

that's life!
:-)


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This business has to be from the heart


yes, agreed.

also agreed is Greg's point re making a living.

but what worries me is that the average pikey off the street can't 
release

his experimental music via vinyl very easily any more. I mean, finding
£800/£900 ain't easy when you earn barely enough to live on. I know 
enough
hardcore/rave kids who wouldn't mind getting 1000 e's and selling them 
to

put money into studio gear or whatever, but not everyone is up for a
stretch if caught

and for me, that means the music is going to suffer big time. as you're
always going to be at the mercy of what someone else wants.

do you see what I mean??

or am I talking s**t?
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Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread D B

Matt Chester wrote:


 I think the main reason for a small slump in
sales is pretty much due to the huge increase in artists clamouring for
attention, and most of them only exist now because of the relative ease of
them setting up their own labels and putting out their own records.

 

A major reason for the sale slump is people being out of work , or 
working for less then they
did a few years ago.   The record industry likes to put a lot of blame 
on downloading for
their record sales slumping, and don't even mention the economy.  
United Airlines and
all of the other Airlines are having troubles, not because people 
downloaded their tickets from
a p2p network, but because people don't have as much discrectionary 
spending as they once

did.

Dave



Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread alex . bond

>I definitely see your point Alex, it would be very cool if releasing could
>at the very least be self sufficient!  However, I can't really see the
scene
>suffering because of it, simply because this is the way it's always been

OK, agreed!

I'm just moaning because I'm feeling sorry for myself today as me and my
mate are struggling to find some cash.

I should shut-up really, I'm sure there's many many people far worse off
than me.

so, I apologise, it helps to rant though.

alex
(who probably needs some sort of mental help for talking to his computer
all day)
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Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread Matt Chester
I definitely see your point Alex, it would be very cool if releasing could
at the very least be self sufficient!  However, I can't really see the scene
suffering because of it, simply because this is the way it's always been -
if fact in the past it took a hell of a lot more capital input to release a
record, particularly before the advent of cheap CD burning and email etc
(for promotion that is).   I think the main reason for a small slump in
sales is pretty much due to the huge increase in artists clamouring for
attention, and most of them only exist now because of the relative ease of
them setting up their own labels and putting out their own records.

However, I agree that things like these Peacefrog releases can be pretty
damaging, as any accepted increase in price is going to have the effect of
increasing costs to distributors, stores, artists etc, making releasing cuts
less and less affordable to the labels (any benefit from increasing the
sales price of an EP is going to be lost in these costs almost immediately -
just look at the outrageous price CDs go for - none of that hike has been
passed on the artists, even at the most commercial end of the spectrum).




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>This business has to be from the heart

yes, agreed.

also agreed is Greg's point re making a living.

but what worries me is that the average pikey off the street can't release
his experimental music via vinyl very easily any more. I mean, finding
£800/£900 ain't easy when you earn barely enough to live on. I know enough
hardcore/rave kids who wouldn't mind getting 1000 e's and selling them to
put money into studio gear or whatever, but not everyone is up for a
stretch if caught

and for me, that means the music is going to suffer big time. as you're
always going to be at the mercy of what someone else wants.

do you see what I mean??

or am I talking s**t?
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Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread bt313
Im surprised that noone has mentioned the price for Ugly Edit 5 and signed 
Mahogani 2 @ Submerge - $50 and $75 respectively.

I could understand a serious collector paying the extra for a signed KDJ but 
the Theo one doesnt look any different to the ones that Rushhour are selling as 
far as I can see.

Cheers
BT

> 
> i bought the moodymann private pressing, because i loved that track on 
> theo's 'eclectic asthetic' mix-cd.
> haven't bought the robert hood [yet], partially because i hardly ever buy 
> something i haven't heard yet, and partially because i'm broke, and rather 
> spend 20 euro's on records i know i'll love, instead of taking a gamble, 
> just because it's limited.
> 
> it's funny how on one digest i read heartbraking stories about recordstores 
> and labels suffering from mp3's, and on the very same digest, the story of a 
> label that has come up with a way to ensure itself from at least a couple of 
> sold out records every year, to make sure the label can carry on doing what 
> it's been doing for the past 10 years.
> the limited nature of these records will create a need amongst the public 
> for the actual item, people won't settle for just the mp3.
> 
> UR is [imho] doing the same with those 7"s: giving it's 'customers' an added 
> reason to buy their product, and not settle for a digital copy.
> 
> as for limited releases;
> i've been thinking about this over the weekend, and listening to a couple of 
> sets on the deephousepage has strengthened this feeling, i came to the 
> conclusion that we need more limited releases, unreleased tracks, and 
> different versions of 'well-known' tracks.
> nowadays everyone can find just about every worthwhile release through 
> mailinglists like this, messageboards and online stores and ebay. hearing 
> something 'new' is therefore quite rare.
> in my opinion it would be great to hear your favorite dj play, and all of a 
> sudden hear him or her play an unreleased version of a song, along with a 
> couple of songs he/she always plays, but are impossible to find. it all adds 
> to the excitement of hearing a certain dj play.
> UR dj's have their z-tracks, lil louis tried out his new tracks for months 
> before releasing a definitive version, the whole west-london crew at co-op, 
> all those unreleased versions of classics ron hardy would play. people are 
> still talking about the original 'acid trax', the real 'blackout' and so on.
> 
> i say: press more limited releases! [or should that be 'press less limited 
> releases'?]
> 
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Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread Marsel van der Wielen

a little more then 1000 euro should be enough to put out 500 records
incl. promotion, promo postage etc

and when you sell everything there's 400 euro profit

that's life!
:-)


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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: (313) peacefrog



>This business has to be from the heart

yes, agreed.

also agreed is Greg's point re making a living.

but what worries me is that the average pikey off the street can't release
his experimental music via vinyl very easily any more. I mean, finding
£800/£900 ain't easy when you earn barely enough to live on. I know enough
hardcore/rave kids who wouldn't mind getting 1000 e's and selling them to
put money into studio gear or whatever, but not everyone is up for a
stretch if caught

and for me, that means the music is going to suffer big time. as you're
always going to be at the mercy of what someone else wants.

do you see what I mean??

or am I talking s**t?
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RE: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread alex . bond

>This business has to be from the heart

yes, agreed.

also agreed is Greg's point re making a living.

but what worries me is that the average pikey off the street can't release
his experimental music via vinyl very easily any more. I mean, finding
£800/£900 ain't easy when you earn barely enough to live on. I know enough
hardcore/rave kids who wouldn't mind getting 1000 e's and selling them to
put money into studio gear or whatever, but not everyone is up for a
stretch if caught

and for me, that means the music is going to suffer big time. as you're
always going to be at the mercy of what someone else wants.

do you see what I mean??

or am I talking s**t?
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Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread jurren baars


i bought the moodymann private pressing, because i loved that track on 
theo's 'eclectic asthetic' mix-cd.
haven't bought the robert hood [yet], partially because i hardly ever buy 
something i haven't heard yet, and partially because i'm broke, and rather 
spend 20 euro's on records i know i'll love, instead of taking a gamble, 
just because it's limited.


it's funny how on one digest i read heartbraking stories about recordstores 
and labels suffering from mp3's, and on the very same digest, the story of a 
label that has come up with a way to ensure itself from at least a couple of 
sold out records every year, to make sure the label can carry on doing what 
it's been doing for the past 10 years.
the limited nature of these records will create a need amongst the public 
for the actual item, people won't settle for just the mp3.


UR is [imho] doing the same with those 7"s: giving it's 'customers' an added 
reason to buy their product, and not settle for a digital copy.


as for limited releases;
i've been thinking about this over the weekend, and listening to a couple of 
sets on the deephousepage has strengthened this feeling, i came to the 
conclusion that we need more limited releases, unreleased tracks, and 
different versions of 'well-known' tracks.
nowadays everyone can find just about every worthwhile release through 
mailinglists like this, messageboards and online stores and ebay. hearing 
something 'new' is therefore quite rare.
in my opinion it would be great to hear your favorite dj play, and all of a 
sudden hear him or her play an unreleased version of a song, along with a 
couple of songs he/she always plays, but are impossible to find. it all adds 
to the excitement of hearing a certain dj play.
UR dj's have their z-tracks, lil louis tried out his new tracks for months 
before releasing a definitive version, the whole west-london crew at co-op, 
all those unreleased versions of classics ron hardy would play. people are 
still talking about the original 'acid trax', the real 'blackout' and so on.


i say: press more limited releases! [or should that be 'press less limited 
releases'?]


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RE: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread Tim Baker
Perfect Point!  If you are making records to save for your kids college
fund in the future.  Its not going to happen.  This business has to be
from the heart.

tb

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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:58 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) peacefrog


Of course that's true - the amount of money we are talking about is
pitiful if you view it as an income - but if it's money that drives you,
then Detroit Techno and the like is not, and never will be, the place to
find it. If you want to make money from music, then you have to have a
product that more people can latch onto, ie something more mainstream.
Or, as previously mentioned, you can try to make money as a performer -
for example, even if Jeff Mills were to sell 10,000 copies of each Axis
release, it would still leave him with less money than a single big gig.

The point is, in my opinion, that we produce, sell and buy this music
because we love it - music, like all art, is something to spend our
money on, not a way of making it.  To be an independant label manager,
you basically have to accept that you will never see any more money from
a release than you would get from a nights work in a bar, at best.  You
do it because you want to, not because you can make a living from it.
And most people lose badly - in another example, word has it that Andy
Weatherall lost over £60,000 over the lifetime of his excellent
Emissions label...

Not wishing to be overly idealistic about it, but the fact is, there is
no money in our scene - so it's a waste of time and energy trying to
find it
(IMO!)


- Original Message -
From: Greg Earle
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: (313) peacefrog


Matt Chester wrote:
> That's true - the mark-up on 400 records at that price would be about
£14 -
> take away £1 for postage and admin etc, they'd still make about £5000 
> for selling through all copies, which they will undoubtedly do.  Split

> between the label and the artist, it's still a pretty hefty cut, much 
> more than they'd ever get on a standard 12" release...

I don't know what the split is (I assume it's not 50-50, but for the
sake of argument ... ), but if what you're saying is true, I'd have to
put out a record (in this way) every two weeks to match a decent (read:
long-term, many years of experience) Engineer's salary.

What a conundrum.  We (rightfully) piss and moan about 16-quid record
prices, but even in the best of circumstances (the aforementioned
scenario), it doesn't even provide a (slightly) comfortable living.

And I don't see any solution to this situation, either.

No wonder KDJ doesn't get out of bed for less.  Sure glad I'm not trying
to live as a musician ... *phew*

- Greg



Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread Matt Chester
Of course that's true - the amount of money we are talking about is pitiful
if you view it as an income - but if it's money that drives you, then
Detroit Techno and the like is not, and never will be, the place to find it.
If you want to make money from music, then you have to have a product that
more people can latch onto, ie something more mainstream.  Or, as previously
mentioned, you can try to make money as a performer - for example, even if
Jeff Mills were to sell 10,000 copies of each Axis release, it would still
leave him with less money than a single big gig.

The point is, in my opinion, that we produce, sell and buy this music
because we love it - music, like all art, is something to spend our money
on, not a way of making it.  To be an independant label manager, you
basically have to accept that you will never see any more money from a
release than you would get from a nights work in a bar, at best.  You do it
because you want to, not because you can make a living from it.  And most
people lose badly - in another example, word has it that Andy Weatherall
lost over £60,000 over the lifetime of his excellent Emissions label...

Not wishing to be overly idealistic about it, but the fact is, there is no
money in our scene - so it's a waste of time and energy trying to find it
(IMO!)


- Original Message -
From: Greg Earle
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: (313) peacefrog


Matt Chester wrote:
> That's true - the mark-up on 400 records at that price would be about
£14 -
> take away £1 for postage and admin etc, they'd still make about £5000 for
> selling through all copies, which they will undoubtedly do.  Split between
> the label and the artist, it's still a pretty hefty cut, much more than
> they'd ever get on a standard 12" release...

I don't know what the split is (I assume it's not 50-50, but for the
sake of argument ... ), but if what you're saying is true, I'd have to
put out a record (in this way) every two weeks to match a decent (read:
long-term, many years of experience) Engineer's salary.

What a conundrum.  We (rightfully) piss and moan about 16-quid record
prices, but even in the best of circumstances (the aforementioned
scenario), it doesn't even provide a (slightly) comfortable living.

And I don't see any solution to this situation, either.

No wonder KDJ doesn't get out of bed for less.  Sure glad I'm not
trying to live as a musician ... *phew*

- Greg



Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread Greg Earle
Matt Chester wrote:
> That's true - the mark-up on 400 records at that price would be about £14 -
> take away £1 for postage and admin etc, they'd still make about £5000 for
> selling through all copies, which they will undoubtedly do.  Split between
> the label and the artist, it's still a pretty hefty cut, much more than
> they'd ever get on a standard 12" release...

I don't know what the split is (I assume it's not 50-50, but for the
sake of argument ... ), but if what you're saying is true, I'd have to
put out a record (in this way) every two weeks to match a decent (read:
long-term, many years of experience) Engineer's salary.

What a conundrum.  We (rightfully) piss and moan about 16-quid record
prices, but even in the best of circumstances (the aforementioned
scenario), it doesn't even provide a (slightly) comfortable living.

And I don't see any solution to this situation, either.

No wonder KDJ doesn't get out of bed for less.  Sure glad I'm not
trying to live as a musician ... *phew*

- Greg




Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread robin



Odeluga, Ken wrote:


the expectation for an artist to _have_ to get a job is unrealistic IMO
(many do i know but that is not the point)
.the logical thing then is to make your name known as a dj and earn
that way..the exact opposite of the above surely.

   


Not really Robin - nowadays and for (I would contend) many decades, most
recording artists have made more money out of performances than record
sales. The example I always like to give is The Grateful Dead.
 

wires crossed a little i think. i meant exact opposite to  the death of 
the superstar dj


i agree with your point tho, so will electronic music have to move in a 
direction where performance is a lot

more important (other than djing)?


You could also say the same abt people like Bowie, who's records have not
made any money for about 15 years - yet he still has a massive deal - why?
Partly royalties (plus it helps to keep the artist on board if you want to
still benefit from their back catalogue) but also toaring, plus everything
that goes with it. It's big business. So is Derrick May et al.
 


you're right.

robin...





Ken


 





Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread alex . bond

>anyway, i don't really have an answer...

well me either, but here's a good 'un...

12's sales decline rapidly (for about 20 different reasons), your record
label has relied in the past on them to make a few quid to keep going.
so, a record that used to sell, say, 3000, now does 1000.

bit of a problem no?

so, you see that ltd things go for cash money on ebay, and also that an
increasing number of records are bought by people when they're released,
just for the "I don't want to pay double for it in the future" factor.
right? probably stemming from all that skam madness, amongst other things.

so, you do a super ltd series with artists who people clamour after
releases from, you charge £16 a record, give up a grand for manufacturing,
say two grand to the artist (who's thinking "f**k me, this is easy money"),
and the three grand goes in your a*se pocket to help keep your label going,
and everyones a winner right?

you got to hand it to 'em, it's a bit of a masterstroke. and a good way of
getting round current problems. certainly more than my pea sized brain
could concoct that's for sure.

am I right in thinking that's it now for the standard 12" release from
peacefrog? There was the moodyman, but that was an album promo thing right?
& it was moodymann, and he could sell sand to the arabs...?

thing is, I don't even begrudge peacefrog a right to make money, they got
staff to employ, artists to pay,and lets face it, we've all had plenty of
enjoyment from peacefrog through the years (far more than £16 worth).

so, f**k it, I'll buy 'em. Maybe I'm a mug though, but I'm not arsed.

thats it, I'll shut up for the day..
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2003-09-23 Thread Odeluga, Ken
>the expectation for an artist to _have_ to get a job is unrealistic IMO
>(many do i know but that is not the point)
>.the logical thing then is to make your name known as a dj and earn
>that way..the exact opposite of the above surely.
>
Not really Robin - nowadays and for (I would contend) many decades, most
recording artists have made more money out of performances than record
sales. The example I always like to give is The Grateful Dead.

You could also say the same abt people like Bowie, who's records have not
made any money for about 15 years - yet he still has a massive deal - why?
Partly royalties (plus it helps to keep the artist on board if you want to
still benefit from their back catalogue) but also toaring, plus everything
that goes with it. It's big business. So is Derrick May et al.

Ken


Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread robin




i don't believe now is the time for labels to start increasing the cost
of vinyl
   



you're right. thing is, how are they/we going to survive otherwise? e.g. if
you press 500, you got to sell them all to break even. and that ain't going
to happen because you need to send some out etc...
 



oh yeah i totally see it from that point of view too, so a price rise is 
inevitable.


the other option is to run the label and sell direct from a website 
(cutting out any middle men)...

maybe this will be the way forward.



bad situation really... (for small labels wanting to do this sort of thing)

so more and more of these labels are gonna have to be run as a labour of 
love, which not all can afford to do.


>BakerBA wrote:


Thee max I will pay for vinyl is around $10 US. With production costs and
manufacturing I do feel that leaves the artist to make enough money continue
to make music. If they have to work a job to do this then so be it. If the
mu>sic is that important to them for them to struggle then the music might
just be worth listening to. I am so glad for the downfall of the superstar
DJ. 



the expectation for an artist to _have_ to get a job is unrealistic IMO 
(many do i know but that is not the point)
the logical thing then is to make your name known as a dj and earn 
that way..the exact opposite of the above surely.


anyway, i don't really have an answer...only observations

robin...

 





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2003-09-23 Thread robin



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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:01:05 -
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To: 'robin' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Thee max I will pay for vinyl is around $10 US. With production costs and
manufacturing I do feel that leaves the artist to make enough money continue
to make music. If they have to work a job to do this then so be it. If the
music is that important to them for them to struggle then the music might
just be worth listening to. I am so glad for the downfall of the superstar
DJ. 


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i was actually going to start a post regarding the rising prices of new
records...
   



Hmm, yes good point. I reckon we're all going to have to dig a little
deeper in our pockets if we want the small independants to survive.
 



i don't believe now is the time for labels to start increasing the cost 
of vinylthere are too many other things for
people to spend their money on and competition from things like FS, 
ableton live, CD players etc


this is a worrying trend from a vinyl lovers perspective.

talking about the PF LTD stuff, i think 16 quid is too much for a 
one-sided piece of vinyl (even if they put it in
an extra plastic sleeve!),  the rob hood thing (omega) is nice but not 
worth that. i still bought it tho for the

same reasons placid lists about regretting not-buying stuff later on.

robin...






Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread alex . bond

>i don't believe now is the time for labels to start increasing the cost
>of vinyl

you're right. thing is, how are they/we going to survive otherwise? e.g. if
you press 500, you got to sell them all to break even. and that ain't going
to happen because you need to send some out etc...

hmm.

bad situation really... (for small labels wanting to do this sort of thing)
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Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread robin




i was actually going to start a post regarding the rising prices of new
records...
   



Hmm, yes good point. I reckon we're all going to have to dig a little
deeper in our pockets if we want the small independants to survive.
 



i don't believe now is the time for labels to start increasing the cost 
of vinylthere are too many other things for
people to spend their money on and competition from things like FS, 
ableton live, CD players etc


this is a worrying trend from a vinyl lovers perspective.

talking about the PF LTD stuff, i think 16 quid is too much for a 
one-sided piece of vinyl (even if they put it in
an extra plastic sleeve!),  the rob hood thing (omega) is nice but not 
worth that. i still bought it tho for the

same reasons placid lists about regretting not-buying stuff later on.

robin...



Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread Matt Chester
That's true - the mark-up on 400 records at that price would be about £14 -
take away £1 for postage and admin etc, they'd still make about £5000 for
selling through all copies, which they will undoubtedly do.  Split between
the label and the artist, it's still a pretty hefty cut, much more than
they'd ever get on a standard 12" release...


Matt Chester
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: (313) peacefrog


they make the same amount on selling 400 directly at this silly price as
they do selling 3000 12" through the distributors and shops .

why cant they sell "LTD 12's"at decent price?  because they wouldnt make any
MONEY

money money money

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Subject: (313) peacefrog


so, this has possibly been done to death but I'm quite interested to know
what people think of these limited releases.

I mean, both of 'em so far have been very very nice. I don't have the rob
hood one yet, but I had a listen to a friends.

so is it a rip-off? I guess I feel a little aggreived at paying so much,
but I would reguarly pay that much for a second hand record I guess.

and, I guess they have to pay the artist a considerable amount, and there's
only 400 of them - so £16, I doubt they're even making much on them?

whaddya think?
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RE: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread alex . bond

well, f**k me, is that you adrian?

this is BAZ!!

you fancy that Carl Craig/Amp Fiddler Electric Chair do up this end or
what??

>they make the same amount on selling 400 directly at this silly price as
>they do selling 3000 12" through the distributors and shops .
>why cant they sell "LTD 12's"at decent price?  because they wouldnt make
any
>MONEY
>money money money.

Yeah, but think about it, Kenny Dixon ain't even getting out of bed for
less than 'x' amount is he?
+ manufacturing and all that, I just can't figure how they're making?

mind you..

400 x £16? = £6400.

d'oh, the thieving gits. whats their phone number??!!

(I guess I didn't think about doing the maths before shooting me gob off)

but do they sell alll of them direct, or do they have distributors,
retailers to go through or what?
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Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread alex . bond

>i was actually going to start a post regarding the rising prices of new
>records...

Hmm, yes good point. I reckon we're all going to have to dig a little
deeper in our pockets if we want the small independants to survive.

I was costing up getting some records pressed the other week (only 500),
and I was just thinking. s**t, how are we going to do this? I know what the
distributor will pay, and the sums don't add up!

so I guess we're due soon for a price hike? cos other people must be having
the same problem?

are people happy with that I wonder?

>and i learned a lesson
>along time ago to buy things when they come out or you will end up
>paying twice as much.

yeah, thats always on the back of my mind too. do you think people play on
that though (i.e pay the £16 now, or its only going to cost you double in
the future), do they get away with it?
the peacefrog releases are good though...

>i dontmind spending 15 20 £ on a record. i can do that in a pub in an
>hour and i get alot more satisfaction from listening to music...

agreed. for sure. although spending £20 in a pub in an hour is very fun
too..

: )
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RE: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread Vinyl Underground
they make the same amount on selling 400 directly at this silly price as
they do selling 3000 12" through the distributors and shops .

why cant they sell "LTD 12's"at decent price?  because they wouldnt make any
MONEY

money money money

Vinyl Underground
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Subject: (313) peacefrog


so, this has possibly been done to death but I'm quite interested to know
what people think of these limited releases.

I mean, both of 'em so far have been very very nice. I don't have the rob
hood one yet, but I had a listen to a friends.

so is it a rip-off? I guess I feel a little aggreived at paying so much,
but I would reguarly pay that much for a second hand record I guess.

and, I guess they have to pay the artist a considerable amount, and there's
only 400 of them - so £16, I doubt they're even making much on them?

whaddya think?
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Re: (313) peacefrog

2003-09-23 Thread placid
i was actually going to start a post regarding the rising prices of new 
records...


i bought them because a, they are actually quite good,  b, i know i can 
always sell them on ebay , c i am a vinyl junkie and i learned a lesson 
along time ago to buy things when they come out or you will end up 
paying twice as much.


i think ebay is the main culprit of rising prices of records to be 
honest...
whenever i see someone selling records not on ebayanything rare 
nearly always has a 'bid' next to it and on further inquiries always 
get a reply along the lines of 'this goes for £x on ebay so i cant let 
it go cheaper than that)


i guess record labels want abit of the money that people will 
inevitably get from buying them and then selling them immediately on 
ebay.


having said that..i sell alot of stuff on ebay and buy alot of stuff on 
ebay and without it i wouldn't have a quarter of the records i thought 
i'd never be able to get hold of.


i dontmind spending 15 20 £ on a record. i can do that in a pub in an 
hour and i get alot more satisfaction from listening to music...




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Re: (313) Peacefrog website

2003-08-31 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I just found this in catching up on e-mails. I am supposed to get a promo 
here any day. He did some of that in Melbourne, so I am curious to see how
it sounds!!!
I will hopefully have some more info on this real soon. Alton is such an
incredible DJ too. I will be very excited to hear this.

> -- Original Message --
> From: Tom Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>At long last:
>>
>>http://www.peacefrog.com
>
> i was wondering what was up with that alton miller. i got a promo
> CD of it from my local shop the other day, and its really really
> sweet. i hadnt heard anyone on here talk about it, but it was on
> discogs and allmusic. whatever, ill be amped. and that moodymann
> definitely isnt worth 16 pounds plus shipping to the US. thats
> just ridiculous.
>
> tom
>
> 
> andythepooh.com
>
>
>
>


RE: (313) Peacefrog

2003-08-31 Thread ryan burns


has anyone heard the pepe mix of this.  any good???

ryan



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Subject: RE: (313) Peacefrog
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:03:48 +0100

> Charles Webster's remixed dubs ;  feat Pepe Bradocks version
> of "falling" and Ian O'Briens mix of "I understand you" is
> now available to pre order to arrive on your doorstep 9/9/03.

Ooh is that  remix of Julee Cruise - Falling ??!?!
[/me wets pants] :)


Peace,
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RE: (313) Peacefrog

2003-08-29 Thread Langsman, Marc
> Charles Webster's remixed dubs ;  feat Pepe Bradocks version 
> of "falling" and Ian O'Briens mix of "I understand you" is 
> now available to pre order to arrive on your doorstep 9/9/03.

Ooh is that  remix of Julee Cruise - Falling ??!?! 
[/me wets pants] :)


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Re: (313) Peacefrog Shattered Dreams Now Available

2003-08-26 Thread tydesign
Looks like it's no longer available from the Web site. Anyone willing to
sell me theirs?

> For all those waiting and haven't noticed: Shattered Dreams is now
> available on the Peacefrog site.
> 
> Brent
> 



RE: (313) Peacefrog Shattered Dreams Now Available

2003-08-26 Thread Lee Herrington IV


  correction...  WAS available.  looks like it's all gone now.  drat!  well,
at least i can make my car payment now.  :-)

  cheers,
  lrh

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For all those waiting and haven't noticed: Shattered Dreams is now
available on the Peacefrog site.

Brent




Re: (313) Peacefrog website

2003-08-25 Thread Phonopsia
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> How does one venture to buy on-line from there? Thx.


>From http://www.peacerog.com navigate to a release and add it to your
basket. Supply credit card and shipping info. Voila!

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Re: (313) Peacefrog website

2003-08-19 Thread Mark S . Krüx
Agreed.but there should be a pause/off button

Maybe I'm blind but I didn't see one.

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>the streaming tunes are an inspired idea.  great atmosphere to shop to.
> :-)
>
>lrh
>
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> > Better late than ever?
>
> Yeah. And hopefully people will use the feedback for re-pressing too. That
> is a really good idea, especially with such a coveted catalogue.
>
> > Also, how many of you knew you could order a selected back catalogue
from
> > them??
>
> Yep. I picked up the Project 27 (Wayne Gardner) w/Dan Curtin remix, that
> I've wanted for a while but never seen in person.
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RE: (313) Peacefrog website

2003-08-19 Thread Lee Herrington IV
   the streaming tunes are an inspired idea.  great atmosphere to shop to.
:-)

   lrh

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> Better late than ever?

Yeah. And hopefully people will use the feedback for re-pressing too. That
is a really good idea, especially with such a coveted catalogue.

> Also, how many of you knew you could order a selected back catalogue from
> them??

Yep. I picked up the Project 27 (Wayne Gardner) w/Dan Curtin remix, that
I've wanted for a while but never seen in person.

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Re: (313) Peacefrog website

2003-08-18 Thread Phonopsia
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> Better late than ever?

Yeah. And hopefully people will use the feedback for re-pressing too. That
is a really good idea, especially with such a coveted catalogue.

> Also, how many of you knew you could order a selected back catalogue from
> them??

Yep. I picked up the Project 27 (Wayne Gardner) w/Dan Curtin remix, that
I've wanted for a while but never seen in person.

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Re: (313) Peacefrog website

2003-08-18 Thread Benn Glazier
Better late than ever?

Also, how many of you knew you could order a selected back catalogue from
them??


bg


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> >At long last:
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> >http://www.peacefrog.com
> 
> i was wondering what was up with that alton miller. i got a promo
> CD of it from my local shop the other day, and its really really
> sweet. i hadnt heard anyone on here talk about it, but it was on
> discogs and allmusic. whatever, ill be amped. and that moodymann
> definitely isnt worth 16 pounds plus shipping to the US. thats
> just ridiculous.
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Re: (313) Peacefrog website

2003-08-18 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Regarding the website - it's nice but why now? The label has been around
for so long without one. Not that I don't like it - it's a nice site.

MEK




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>At long last:
>
>http://www.peacefrog.com

i was wondering what was up with that alton miller. i got a promo
CD of it from my local shop the other day, and its really really
sweet. i hadnt heard anyone on here talk about it, but it was on
discogs and allmusic. whatever, ill be amped. and that moodymann
definitely isnt worth 16 pounds plus shipping to the US. thats
just ridiculous.

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Re: (313) Peacefrog website

2003-08-17 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
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>At long last:
>
>http://www.peacefrog.com

i was wondering what was up with that alton miller. i got a promo
CD of it from my local shop the other day, and its really really
sweet. i hadnt heard anyone on here talk about it, but it was on
discogs and allmusic. whatever, ill be amped. and that moodymann
definitely isnt worth 16 pounds plus shipping to the US. thats
just ridiculous. 

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Re: (313) Peacefrog Private Pressings

2003-01-23 Thread alex . bond

Hi Jeff,

I know someone answered already, but I'd try and get one saved through a
shop - I think there's only 300, and I know my mate in one of the shops
here in Manchester has had a load of people asking already.

You could try rushhour, but also I know that Piccadilly records in
Manchester will maybe get 10, but I also know that www.boomkat.com are
deffo getting some.
Problem is that they may be inclined to sort out regular customers only as
I think people are already arguing

Good luck

Alex




   
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I got the post last week on the Peacefrog Private Pressings...I need more
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them and is running into problems figuring out how.  If any one has any
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Re: (313) peacefrog private pressing

2003-01-14 Thread Maarten Baute
> just want to mention that the last sentence "..will only be available
> direct from the Peacefrog offices" was sent out to record shops, meant for
> them. meaning that they cannot order the records from the regular
> distributors. so it's not meant as 'normal' record buyers to buy the
> records at peacefrog.
>
> excuses. .

oh ok.. now my questuion is answered .. sorry should have read this post
before I sent the mail.

cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) peacefrog private pressing

2003-01-14 Thread Maarten Baute
> 
>
> "Also look out for the Peacefrog 'Private Pressing' series which are
> one-sided 12" ltd to 300! These are tracks that we feel are totally unique
> & will only be available direct from the Peacefrog offices. The first two
> are from Moodymann & Robert Hood."
>
> ...


has peacefrog a website or something?
Would it be possible for a moodymann adict to reserve a copy?

Thanks,
Maarten



Re: (313) peacefrog private pressing

2003-01-14 Thread marsel


just want to mention that the last sentence "..will only be available 
direct from the Peacefrog offices" was sent out to record shops, meant for 
them. meaning that they cannot order the records from the regular 
distributors. so it's not meant as 'normal' record buyers to buy the 
records at peacefrog.


excuses. .

At 14-1-2003 +0100 10:02, you wrote:




"Also look out for the Peacefrog 'Private Pressing' series which are 
one-sided 12" ltd to 300! These are tracks that we feel are totally unique 
& will only be available direct from the Peacefrog offices. The first two 
are from Moodymann & Robert Hood."


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RE: (313) peacefrog private pressing

2003-01-14 Thread Wibo Lammerts
bastards

sigh

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>
> 
>
> "Also look out for the Peacefrog 'Private Pressing' series which are
> one-sided 12" ltd to 300! These are tracks that we feel are totally unique
> & will only be available direct from the Peacefrog offices. The first two
> are from Moodymann & Robert Hood."
>
> ...
>
>


Re: (313) peacefrog private pressing

2003-01-14 Thread Mark S . Krüx
Rowrr.

=)

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> 
>
> "Also look out for the Peacefrog 'Private Pressing' series which are
> one-sided 12" ltd to 300! These are tracks that we feel are totally unique
> & will only be available direct from the Peacefrog offices. The first two
> are from Moodymann & Robert Hood."
>
> ...
>
>



RE: (313) peacefrog schedule

2003-01-07 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
> >Jan 2003: PFG028  Jello EP

for lovers of exceedingly well-constructed, british electronica rooted in
Detroit, Jello is D Fitton aka Bola, and last year's album was very great...
eager to get that EP.

> >Feb 2003: PFG030  Plaid Remix
> >2LP PT1  505029413431-3 / 2LP PT2  505029413441-2 / 2CD  
> 505029413452-8

the same Plaid as those on Warp ???

Stupid question : what is the reason behind their changing of catalogue
numbering ? is it just the 10th anniversary ? and also : I loved their
10.100 and 10.100.2 comps, haven't seen any 10.100.3, has there been one
released ?

Gwendal


RE: (313) peacefrog schedule

2003-01-07 Thread Matthew Mangold
Speaking of Peacefrog, didn't they put out a tune out a while back... say,
seven or so years ago... called 'Empath'? I'm pretty sure that was the only
vocal snippet, just the one word, 'empath' layered with efx, fairly minimal,
housey, tech? Anyone else remember this?

m

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guess several would be interested

rough schedule

>Jan 2003: PFG028  Jello EP
>
>Jan 2003: PFG023  Suburban Knight EP
>
>Jan 2003: PFG025  Suburban Knight Album
>2LP  505029413411-5 / CD  505029413422-1
>
>Jan 2003: PFG034  New World Aquarium EP
>
>Feb 2003: PFG030  Plaid Remix
>2LP PT1  505029413431-3 / 2LP PT2  505029413441-2 / 2CD  505029413452-8
>
>Feb 2003: PFG032  Moodymann EP
>
>Mar 2003: PFG035  Ian 0'Brien EP
>
>Mar 2003: PFG036  Moodymann Album
>2LP  505029413461-0 / CD  505029413472-6
>
>Apr 2003: PFG037  Charles Webster Remixed
>(Born on the 24th July Remixes)
>
>May 2003: PFG038  Ian O'Brien Album
>2LP  505029413481-8 / CD  505029413492-4
>Also signed for 2003 release: New Charles Webster studio album, & a Swag
>remix album.





RE: [313] peacefrog 100 compilation 2nd part

2002-02-05 Thread Gwendal Cobert
thanks - I guess this means more shopping to do... ;-)
Gwendal

> It was released on CD. Just as good as the first.

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Re: [313] peacefrog 100 compilation 2nd part

2002-02-04 Thread tydesign7
It was released on CD. Just as good as the first.

On 02/04/02 12:23 PM, "Gwendal Cobert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do they also release it on CD ? I hope it's as good as the first volume
> was...
> Gwendal
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>> Subject: [313] peacefrog 100 compilation 2nd part
>> 
>> 
>> Peacefrog 100.2
>>  Various Artists: 10.100.2 (UK 5x LP Box) @ EUR 65,00   #36289
>>   (2nd part, luxury 180g pressing, 20 rare tunes by DBX, Shake, Theo
>>Parrish a.o.)
>> 
>> 
>> Does anyone have a complete tracklisting? I am very curious
>> wich shake track
>> they selected for the compilation...
>> 
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RE: [313] peacefrog 100 compilation 2nd part

2002-02-04 Thread Gwendal Cobert
Do they also release it on CD ? I hope it's as good as the first volume
was...
Gwendal

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> Subject: [313] peacefrog 100 compilation 2nd part
>
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> Peacefrog 100.2
>  Various Artists: 10.100.2 (UK 5x LP Box) @ EUR 65,00   #36289
>   (2nd part, luxury 180g pressing, 20 rare tunes by DBX, Shake, Theo
>Parrish a.o.)
>
>
> Does anyone have a complete tracklisting? I am very curious
> wich shake track
> they selected for the compilation...
>
> Cheers,
> Maarten
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Re: [313] peacefrog 100 compilation 2nd part

2002-02-04 Thread Mario Atienza

 Track listing 

CD
THEO PARRISH-Sky Walking
CHICAGO UNDERGROUND COUNCIL-Groove Thang
DBX-City On The Edge Of Forever
INSYNC vs MYSTERON-Exit 9
LUKE SLATER-The Secret Garden
ST VITAS DANCE-Mystic Vibrations
MOODYMANN-Telephone Blue
STASIS-View From The Rille
APOGEE-Inside Above
RON TRENT-Morning Factory
GLENN UNDERGROUND-Keep The Hidden Treasures
IAN O'BRIEN-Where Does The Past End And The Present Begin?
DAN CURTIN-It Tastes Like
PLANETART ASSAULT SYSTEMS-Gruve
SHAKE-Sonar 123
JOHN BELTRAN-Ten Days Of Blue
GEMINI-Freefall
WAMDUE KIDS-Optimistique
ROY DAVIS JR-Someday




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Various Artists: 10.100.2 (UK 5x LP Box) @ EUR 65,00 #36289
(2nd part, luxury 180g pressing, 20 rare tunes by DBX, Shake, Theo
Parrish a.o.)


Does anyone have a complete tracklisting? I am very curious wich shake track
they selected for the compilation...

Cheers,
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Re: [313] Peacefrog 100th release

2001-04-18 Thread Otto Koppius
stephen kelly wrote:
 
> wonder how much it's gonna cost?...

Knowing Peacefrog, the price for distributors will be at least 12 UKP /
18 USD, so you can guess what the retail price will be :(

Otto, the cynic...


Re: [313] Peacefrog 100th release

2001-04-18 Thread Tom Robbins
Just think about all the other people who've recorded for Peacefrog who
AREN'T included here, amongst them Neil Landstrumm, Adam X & Jimmy Crash,
Eddie Fowlkes, Wyndell Long, Stacy Kidd, Insync Vs Mysteron, Max Brennan,
Gemini, Josh Brent and Roy Davis Jr. When you consider that they don't do
adverts or even have a website, you have to admit that Peacefrog really is
an unbelievable label.


> Stephen wrote:
>
> >maybe - but it's bound to be on the album isn't it... also would have
been
> >nice to see one of the otherworld collective tracks on there
>
> yeah, The Otherworld Collective's 'Artificial World' 12" is amazing -
> classic soulful techno... one of my favourite Peacefrog releases!
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Re: [313] Peacefrog 100th release

2001-04-18 Thread rob webb

Stephen wrote:


maybe - but it's bound to be on the album isn't it... also would have been
nice to see one of the otherworld collective tracks on there


yeah, The Otherworld Collective's 'Artificial World' 12" is amazing - 
classic soulful techno... one of my favourite Peacefrog releases!





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Re: [313] Peacefrog 100th release

2001-04-18 Thread stephen kelly

previously...


but strictly old material.what a shame.

that norma jean bell is new..
isn't it??




maybe - but it's bound to be on the album isn't it... also would have been 
nice to see one of the otherworld collective tracks on there or a bit more 
dan curtin... wonder how much it's gonna cost?...


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Re: [313] Peacefrog 100th release

2001-04-17 Thread marsel

At 17-4-01 +0200 16:48, you wrote:


but strictly old material.what a shame.




that norma jean bell is new..
isn't it??

:)



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Re: [313] Peacefrog 100th release

2001-04-17 Thread Jochem_Peteri


but strictly old material.what a shame.



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Re: [313] Peacefrog 100th release

2001-04-17 Thread Tom Robbins
No, unmixed - a good thing in this case if you ask me.

TOM


> is this mixed? and if so, by whom?


> Look what popped through the door today... mmm, Peacefrog...
>
> Peacefrog presents: 10.100
> Released 28th May (UK)
> Cat. no. PF100. Format: 2XCD (doesn't say if is coming out on vinyl, but I
> assume it will)
>
> Tracklisting:
>
> CD1:
> Purveyors Of Fine Funk: Ashes Smashing Red
> Paul Johnson: Caught Up In Your Love
> David Alvarado: Beautification
> Ron trent: Love
> Theo Parrish: Heal Yourself And Move
> Dan Curtin: Spliffed
> Norma Jean Bell: Your Perfect
> Chris Brann: Journey To The Centre
> Charles Webster: Sweet Butterfly
> Planetary Assault Systems: Booster
> Infiniti: Sunlight
>
> CD2:
> John Beltran: Collage Of Dreams
> Sunchildren: The Flow
> Wamdue Kids: Whirlwind
> Glenn Underground: Entercourse Of The New Age
> DBX: LosingControl
> Neuropolitique: Mind You Don't Trip
> Placid Angles: Everything Under The Sun
> Ian O'Brien: Midday Sunshine
> Moodymann: Mahogany Brown
> Detroit Escalator Co.: Gathering Light
> Luke Slater: Industive Channels
> Stasis: Moody Ol' Teacher
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RE: [313] Peacefrog 100th release

2001-04-17 Thread Holly MacDonald-Korth
is this mixed? and if so, by whom?

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Look what popped through the door today... mmm, Peacefrog...

Peacefrog presents: 10.100
Released 28th May (UK)
Cat. no. PF100. Format: 2XCD (doesn't say if is coming out on vinyl, but I
assume it will)

Tracklisting:

CD1:
Purveyors Of Fine Funk: Ashes Smashing Red
Paul Johnson: Caught Up In Your Love
David Alvarado: Beautification
Ron trent: Love
Theo Parrish: Heal Yourself And Move
Dan Curtin: Spliffed
Norma Jean Bell: Your Perfect
Chris Brann: Journey To The Centre
Charles Webster: Sweet Butterfly
Planetary Assault Systems: Booster
Infiniti: Sunlight

CD2:
John Beltran: Collage Of Dreams
Sunchildren: The Flow
Wamdue Kids: Whirlwind
Glenn Underground: Entercourse Of The New Age
DBX: LosingControl
Neuropolitique: Mind You Don't Trip
Placid Angles: Everything Under The Sun
Ian O'Brien: Midday Sunshine
Moodymann: Mahogany Brown
Detroit Escalator Co.: Gathering Light
Luke Slater: Industive Channels
Stasis: Moody Ol' Teacher


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Re: [313] Peacefrog 100th release

2001-04-17 Thread Jonny McIntosh
> Peacefrog presents: 10.100
.
.
.
> Infiniti: Sunlight

If this isn't on vinyl I will cry...