Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[Paul Stewart]

I like it . no issues. mainly only use Windows for Office 365 (Outlook) and
web browsing.  A few challenges with Microsoft Edge browser but option still
remains for IE (or your 3rd party browser of choice).

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

 

Should I upgrade to Windows 10?

Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

[Paul Stewart]

I am always missing some portion of the messages from this mailing list - I
don't consider Amazon to be super reliable specifically for email delivery .
definitely not.

 

I belong to a few dozen mailing lists and AFMUG is the only one where I see
this.

 

Just my two cents worth . 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

 

Guys,

I need to jump in here.  There is nothing going on with the list... hasn't
missed a beat in about 6 months.  AWS has been rock-solid for us.

However, if you have any delivery problems (AWS not able to talk to your
mail server) you WILL get put on the AWS suppression list, and we have to
submit to have you removed from that list, which happens very quickly.

I know that one of the suggested fixes for any AFMUG mail related concerns,
has been to unsubscribe, then resubscribe, that is only a fix for a very
small number of cases.   You are welcome to try that as it doesn't hurt
anything.  Again though, if your problems related to non-delivery of mail to
your server for any reason, that problem is only fixed through submitting to
AWS to get off the suppression list.

Paul



  _  

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill Prince
[part15...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:03 PM
To:   af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

You have an anti-AWS virus.




bp

 

On 11/30/2015 9:59 AM, TJ Trout wrote:

If you see this can you reply here and cc t...@voltbb.com
  ? Having problems with the list!

 

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[Mathew Howard]

how about $2.29?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-HRD-Converter-24v-36v-48v-Step-Down-To-12v-3A-Power-Module-Portable-/201239343894?hash=item2edaccb316:m:m9vd1B-jJ6zZr8sE6SAWNYQ



On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Need 48 in, 12 out.
>
> *From:* SmarterBroadband 
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 1:48 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter
>
>
> How about $11.
>
>
>
> We have used these to power radios off batteries for installers.  They are
> adjustable - we set them 48v out on 16.2v battery packs.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZR9PBW
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter
>
>
>
> Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that will do 20
> watts.
>
> Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap.  Looking for something in the
> $20 range.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: PSY is at it again

[Mathew Howard]

I knew it was a bad idea to click that link...

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrG4TEcSuRg
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>

Re: [AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I was waiting to update the listing until we started shipping the Revision
i syncinjectors and completely flushed out the Rev H injectors.  The 450i
doesn't seem to like a long cable on a Rev H injector but we've fixed this
in revision i.

If you're planning on using a gigabit injector with a 450i with anything
but a short cable,  I'd recommend buying a new one and putting a note in
the comments on the order for them to include only revision I injectors on
your order.
On Nov 30, 2015 2:55 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> You can.  It will take up to 57v.
>
> And once again I'll yell at Forrest to correct that posting.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Josh,
>>
>> I was not sure if I could just put 48 volts to the unit powering the 450i
>> or not.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>
>> GogebicRange.net
>>
>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 3:42 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://store.packetflux.com/gigabit-syncinjector-for-24-volt-cambium-radios/
>>
>> http://store.packetflux.com/syncpipe-basic/
>>
>> Plus a 24v and a 48v power supply (450i is 48v, fsk is 24v).
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes you can daisy chain from the syncpipe, to the syncinjector and so on
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Just to be clear can anyone tell me what version of syncinjector I need
>> to run a pmp450i? Is there a version that can run both a 450i and pmp100
>> AP? If not can I daisy chain the GPS sync from the first syncinjector
>> running the 450i to the syncinjector running the older pmp100 aps?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>
>> GogebicRange.net
>>
>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

[Josh Luthman]

I have no issues with any mailing lists except for situation like NANOG a
while back that got slammed with spam.  The same situation happened to
Amazon and it handled it just fine =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:

> I am always missing some portion of the messages from this mailing list –
> I don’t consider Amazon to be super reliable specifically for email
> delivery … definitely not…
>
>
>
> I belong to a few dozen mailing lists and AFMUG is the only one where I
> see this.
>
>
>
> Just my two cents worth …
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 1:58 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123
>
>
>
> Guys,
>
> I need to jump in here.  There is nothing going on with the list... hasn't
> missed a beat in about 6 months.  AWS has been rock-solid for us.
>
> However, if you have any delivery problems (AWS not able to talk to your
> mail server) you WILL get put on the AWS suppression list, and we have to
> submit to have you removed from that list, which happens very quickly.
>
> I know that one of the suggested fixes for any AFMUG mail related
> concerns, has been to unsubscribe, then resubscribe, that is only a fix for
> a very small number of cases.   You are welcome to try that as it doesn't
> hurt anything.  Again though, if your problems related to non-delivery of
> mail to your server for any reason, that problem is only fixed through
> submitting to AWS to get off the suppression list.
>
> Paul
>
> --
>
> *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill Prince [
> part15...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 1:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123
>
> You have an anti-AWS virus.
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2015 9:59 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> If you see this can you reply here and cc t...@voltbb.com ? Having problems
> with the list!
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100

[Josh Luthman]

http://store.packetflux.com/gigabit-syncinjector-for-24-volt-cambium-radios/
http://store.packetflux.com/syncpipe-basic/
Plus a 24v and a 48v power supply (450i is 48v, fsk is 24v).

Yes you can daisy chain from the syncpipe, to the syncinjector and so on


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
wrote:

> Just to be clear can anyone tell me what version of syncinjector I need to
> run a pmp450i? Is there a version that can run both a 450i and pmp100 AP?
> If not can I daisy chain the GPS sync from the first syncinjector running
> the 450i to the syncinjector running the older pmp100 aps?
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100

[Brandon Yuchasz]

Thanks Josh,

I was not sure if I could just put 48 volts to the unit powering the 450i or 
not. 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100

 

http://store.packetflux.com/gigabit-syncinjector-for-24-volt-cambium-radios/

http://store.packetflux.com/syncpipe-basic/

Plus a 24v and a 48v power supply (450i is 48v, fsk is 24v).

 

Yes you can daisy chain from the syncpipe, to the syncinjector and so on




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:

Just to be clear can anyone tell me what version of syncinjector I need to run 
a pmp450i? Is there a version that can run both a 450i and pmp100 AP? If not 
can I daisy chain the GPS sync from the first syncinjector running the 450i to 
the syncinjector running the older pmp100 aps?

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net  

 

 

[AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100

[Brandon Yuchasz]

Just to be clear can anyone tell me what version of syncinjector I need to
run a pmp450i? Is there a version that can run both a 450i and pmp100 AP? If
not can I daisy chain the GPS sync from the first syncinjector running the
450i to the syncinjector running the older pmp100 aps?

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

  www.gogebicrange.net

 

Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

[Paul McCall]

It’s hard to know every situation.  My gmail account for list testing doesn’t 
do anything odd on the few times that I have used it.

Josh,  I would have to trace every step being made to know what, when and how 
this or that happened.  Obviously, Mailman (not related to AWS) thought you 
were still subscribed if you received an email.  And, the unsubscribe thing was 
probably tied to when you, in your words… unsubscribed.  Can I explain the 
timing on WHEN you received the email…No.

Usually though, when we have tracked these situations fully for people, it’s 
pretty predictable or definable on what happened when.  Enough so, that when 
someone asks about a problem, the first thing we check is the AWS suppression 
list.  It doesn’t happen, but goes in waves if you will.

Just like AFMUG email in general goes through mini-seasons when some firewall, 
spam systems suddenly detect it as spam, and someone has to complain that those 
emails are not spam, and then they run fine for a long while.  For example, we 
use Postlayer and every few months or so, “some” of the AFMUG email will go to 
Quarantine and we have to gripe.

Some of this is just part of the deal.
Best practices would be to email us when you first have a problem before you 
start unsubscribing and re-subscribing, because that is NOT the primary fix, 
and potentially compromises the troubleshooting workflow.  Its like a customer 
unplugging all the wires to their router before they call you for support.

Paul




From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

I just don't really see google gmail having delivery problems, I've never 
missed a single email ever sent to me by a person (that I can recall) is there 
a chance that maybe aws is using some IP's blacklisted by google occasionally 
and that's causing this issue??

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Josh Reynolds < > wrote:

Also, I now see this:
On Nov 30, 2015 1:06 PM, "Josh Baird" 
> wrote:
Double email (when you send) seems to be normal for whatever reason.

On Nov 30, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:

I'm going to counter this with my experiences...

I could receive list mail, but I wasn't subscribed. How?

Requested removal again, this time I stopped getting mail.

Requested list again, authorized the list and amazonses. Now when I send mail, 
I see it hit twice... Once from "afmug", once from amazonses.

Using google mail.
On Nov 30, 2015 12:58 PM, "Paul McCall" 
> wrote:
Guys,

I need to jump in here.  There is nothing going on with the list... hasn't 
missed a beat in about 6 months.  AWS has been rock-solid for us.

However, if you have any delivery problems (AWS not able to talk to your mail 
server) you WILL get put on the AWS suppression list, and we have to submit to 
have you removed from that list, which happens very quickly.

I know that one of the suggested fixes for any AFMUG mail related concerns, has 
been to unsubscribe, then resubscribe, that is only a fix for a very small 
number of cases.   You are welcome to try that as it doesn't hurt anything.  
Again though, if your problems related to non-delivery of mail to your server 
for any reason, that problem is only fixed through submitting to AWS to get off 
the suppression list.

Paul


From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill 
Prince [part15...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123
You have an anti-AWS virus.



bp




On 11/30/2015 9:59 AM, TJ Trout wrote:

If you see this can you reply here and cc 
t...@voltbb.com ? Having problems with the list!

Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[can...@believewireless.net]

Definitely check the devices you have attached and the drivers for them. I
upgraded a machine to Win10 and my scanner
stopped working. No drivers for 10. Had to move it to another win 7 machine.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> I don't use edge for anything, except for a single local government
> website that refuses to work on anything else (Really? What is this,
> 1997?)
>
> Anywho, win10 has been great for me. Just as stable (if not more so)
> than win7 was, and a hell of a lot better than 8 and 8.1. Performance
> and battery life have been good.
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:38 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>  wrote:
> > Its a different beast, I did it on my laptop, tried to get behind edge,
> but
> > its just not big leagues ready yet, back to chrome, I have alot of bugs,
> but
> > could just be that I did an upgrade, then a win10 restore keeping profile
> > data
> >
> > Unless youre ready to work with microsoft accounts, its not worth it if
> you
> > use different accounts for different microsoft resources, you can set
> them
> > up with independent credentials but they merge
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Kerry  wrote:
> >>
> >> I have it on two laptops, no issue with the one, but the newer one has
> had
> >> 4-5 'blue screen' issues which never happened when it was on 7 pro.
> >> I haven't run Quickbooks in several years, but I'm using a 2013 version
> of
> >> Quicken on win10 with no issues.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/30/2015 3:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I got a warning that if I upgraded to Win10, I would have to upgrade my
> >>> Quickbooks as well.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
> >>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:14 PM
> >>> To: af@afmug.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10
> >>>
> >>> I've only used it on 1 netbook, but have had a lot of Wired ethernet
> >>> problems so far.  I think there is a physical switch in the RJ45 port
> >>> that enables/disables the port and windows10 gets realy confused.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/30/2015 2:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> 
>   From win7 or win8?
> 
>  On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Chuck McCown 
> wrote:
> >
> > Should I upgrade to Windows 10?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as
> > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

[AFMUG] OT: PSY is at it again

[Josh Luthman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrG4TEcSuRg

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Remote offices and Shared Devices

[Paul Stewart]

Nobody is allowed anything but corporate devices to be connected to
corporate network.  All remote access is done via web vpn ... all offices
and data centers linked via VPN ... 

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:32 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Remote offices and Shared Devices

I know many of you have multiple offices, probably one at the shop and one
at home.  How do you link them all together?  Do you VPN in at a machine or
Router level?  Make the home network an extension of the office network via
a tunnel?  Or just do firewall rules to allow the home machines in?  Do you
Isolate the rest of your home machines from your 'work' machine?

The only things I really need to keep access to are Mapped/shared drives,
and Network Printers.  I.E. Home accessing a share on a server at the shop,
or Server at the Shop printing to a printer at home.

Re: [AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100

[Josh Luthman]

You can.  It will take up to 57v.

And once again I'll yell at Forrest to correct that posting.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
wrote:

> Thanks Josh,
>
> I was not sure if I could just put 48 volts to the unit powering the 450i
> or not.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 3:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100
>
>
>
>
> http://store.packetflux.com/gigabit-syncinjector-for-24-volt-cambium-radios/
>
> http://store.packetflux.com/syncpipe-basic/
>
> Plus a 24v and a 48v power supply (450i is 48v, fsk is 24v).
>
>
>
> Yes you can daisy chain from the syncpipe, to the syncinjector and so on
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
> wrote:
>
> Just to be clear can anyone tell me what version of syncinjector I need to
> run a pmp450i? Is there a version that can run both a 450i and pmp100 AP?
> If not can I daisy chain the GPS sync from the first syncinjector running
> the 450i to the syncinjector running the older pmp100 aps?
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

[Rory Conaway]

I’ve had good success with the 5GHz small form factor antennas from Ubiquiti.  
I have several up.  I understand what you are saying though.  In this case, 
it’s simply a case of antenna gain.  Put the biggest antenna on the client side 
that you can.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 8:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

See Rory I am not using 5Ghz equipment like sectors at the grain silo I mean 
there just not enough room up there to do anything. I am only using 5Ghz for 
backhaul for now.

I mean I probably put up an small 5Ghz sector up there but I dont know if it 
will work or not.

Tim


-Original Message-
From: "Rory Conaway" >
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 11/30/15 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

I meant put up a Powerbeam on the side of the customer.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

So you guys are saying I should put up ptp for the customer? Wouldnt I have the 
same issue with the signal problem as I have with the nanobeam? Since there is 
edge of the woods I am hitting?


-Original Message-
From: "Justin Wilson - MTIN" >
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 11/30/15 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue
Yeah not a bad idea.  I haven't had a good or bad experience with swapping 
heads on these.  I know they aren't that finely tuned for the frequency.




Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net
 Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting - Data Centers - Bandwidth


 
http://www.midwest-ix.com
  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric



On Nov 29, 2015, at 11:53 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:


If it's me, I just get the Powerbeam PBE-M5-620.  You pick up another 4dBi on 
the antenna gain.

Rory

 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:21 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

How about LiteBeam?  Seem to work pretty well for Sonic Ranch folks out to 
studios and guest houses

On Nov 29, 2015 7:05 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
> wrote:

The power output of the Powerbeam is much higher.  However, it probably isn't 
much better on the receive side other than a slightly better chipset.

Rory

 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Tim Reichhart
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 6:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue


Justin
whats the gain on the airgrid vs the dish?


-Original Message-
From: "Justin Wilson - MTIN" >
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 11/29/15 08:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

Depends on noise floor. The nano beam m2-13 is only 13DBI. If you want to sep 
up to a bigger dish that would get you more gain. As much as folks don't like 
the air grids in 2.4 GHZ it's hard to beat the AG-HP-2G20.



Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net
 Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting - Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com
 COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

On Nov 29, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Tim Reichhart 
> wrote:

would rocket dish 2g with rocket m2 fix an link issue because today I tried 
with an nanobeam m2 and link from customer to ap is about 3 miles and I was 
getting anywhere from -70 to -75.

Re: [AFMUG] Light Based Internet Li-Fi Could One Day Replace Wi-Fi STGIST

[David]

The fix would be use a class III laser light to overcome ANY interference.

Caveat you must wear complete hazmat suit :)



On 11/30/2015 09:40 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:


They have been working on this for years in the U.S. also.  It have 
very limited application.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 5:52 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Light Based Internet Li-Fi Could One Day 
Replace Wi-Fi STGIST


Or the blinking LED being washed out by regular lights.

Bah, three letters for what’s wrong with that, LOS (lol!)

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:39 PM
*To:* Animal Farm  
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Light Based Internet Li-Fi Could One Day
Replace Wi-Fi STGIST


http://stgist.com/2015/11/light-based-internet-connection-li-fi-could-one-day-replace-wi-fi-5866

Re: [AFMUG] Light Based Internet Li-Fi Could One Day Replace Wi-Fi STGIST

[Josh Luthman]

WOW I remember that being on laptops!  Totally forgot!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> When my son was in middle school they had infrared bubbles on ceiling with
> special laptops equipped with infrared sensor on top of screen.  Kids
> quickly figured out a book or hand over it killed service.   Lasted one
> semester.
> On Nov 30, 2015 8:40 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
>> They have been working on this for years in the U.S. also.  It have very
>> limited application.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 5:52 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Light Based Internet Li-Fi Could One Day Replace
>> Wi-Fi STGIST
>>
>>
>>
>> Or the blinking LED being washed out by regular lights.
>>
>> Bah, three letters for what’s wrong with that, LOS (lol!)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:39 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm  
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Light Based Internet Li-Fi Could One Day Replace
>> Wi-Fi STGIST
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://stgist.com/2015/11/light-based-internet-connection-li-fi-could-one-day-replace-wi-fi-5866
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[Daniel White]

Yea I opened mine my Freshmen year of High School.



I think I was buying Christmas presents when I first opened it.



Thank you,



Daniel White

  afmu...@gmail.com

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

Skype: danieldwhite
Social:   LinkedIn:  
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay



2005 here.  I was also in high school.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Ty Featherling  > wrote:

Feb 15, 1999. I was still in High School.



-Ty








-Ty



On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists  > wrote:

Jun 17, 1998… It must have been a popular year.



Sincerely,

Joshaven Potter
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com 
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 

supp...@joshaven.com 







On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN  > wrote:



July 1998. Have a business account that is newer, with more transactions.





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On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Chuck McCown  > wrote:

Member since: Dec 23, 2000

Who has the oldest ebay account?


  










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Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

you young people make me sicklol
ok, not really ;)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay


  2005 here.  I was also in high school.




  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Ty Featherling  
wrote:

Feb 15, 1999. I was still in High School.


-Ty






-Ty


On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists 
 wrote:

  Jun 17, 1998… It must have been a popular year.


  Sincerely,
  Joshaven Potter
  MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
  Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
  Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
  supp...@joshaven.com






On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN  
wrote:


July 1998. Have a business account that is newer, with more 
transactions.




Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
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xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

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  On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Member since: Dec 23, 2000

  Who has the oldest ebay account?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[Chuck Macenski]

Member since: Feb-13-98

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Member since: Dec 23, 2000
>
> Who has the oldest ebay account?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Light Based Internet Li-Fi Could One Day Replace Wi-Fi STGIST

[Jaime Solorza]

When my son was in middle school they had infrared bubbles on ceiling with
special laptops equipped with infrared sensor on top of screen.  Kids
quickly figured out a book or hand over it killed service.   Lasted one
semester.
On Nov 30, 2015 8:40 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

> They have been working on this for years in the U.S. also.  It have very
> limited application.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 5:52 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Light Based Internet Li-Fi Could One Day Replace
> Wi-Fi STGIST
>
>
>
> Or the blinking LED being washed out by regular lights.
>
> Bah, three letters for what’s wrong with that, LOS (lol!)
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:39 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm  
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Light Based Internet Li-Fi Could One Day Replace Wi-Fi
> STGIST
>
>
>
>
> http://stgist.com/2015/11/light-based-internet-connection-li-fi-could-one-day-replace-wi-fi-5866
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[James Howard]

Member since: Oct 27, 1998

I actually had an account at my last place of employment before we started this 
company that was before that.  Guess it doesn’t matter though since I don’t 
have that account anymore.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay


you young people make me sicklol
ok, not really ;)

- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

2005 here.  I was also in high school.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Ty Featherling 
> wrote:
Feb 15, 1999. I was still in High School.

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists 
> wrote:
Jun 17, 1998… It must have been a popular year.

Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN 
> wrote:

July 1998. Have a business account that is newer, with more transactions.


Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

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On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Chuck McCown 
> wrote:

Member since: Dec 23, 2000

Who has the oldest ebay account?






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Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[Chuck McCown]

I think this one may be the earliest?

From: Chuck Macenski 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

Member since: Feb-13-98


On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Member since: Dec 23, 2000

  Who has the oldest ebay account?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[Josh Luthman]

Wonder if anyone else can beat it though...

Founded September 3, 1995; 20 years ago


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I think this one may be the earliest?
>
> *From:* Chuck Macenski 
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 10:10 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay
>
> Member since: Feb-13-98
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Member since: Dec 23, 2000
>>
>> Who has the oldest ebay account?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[James Howard]

No, Paul Stewart beat that by 1 week.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

I think this one may be the earliest?

From: Chuck Macenski
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

Member since: Feb-13-98

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Chuck McCown 
> wrote:
Member since: Dec 23, 2000

Who has the oldest ebay account?


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[Mathew Howard]

2003... but I don't have my original account anymore, I'm pretty sure that
would've been 2000 or 2001, also in high school.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> 2005 here.  I was also in high school.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Ty Featherling 
> wrote:
>
>> Feb 15, 1999. I was still in High School.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists <
>> lis...@joshaven.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jun 17, 1998… It m*ust have been a popular year.*
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Joshaven Potter
>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
>>> Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
>>> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
>>> supp...@joshaven.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> July 1998. Have a business account that is newer, with more transactions.
>>>
>>> 
>>> Justin Wilson
>>> j...@mtin.net
>>>
>>> ---
>>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>>
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
>>> Member since: Dec 23, 2000
>>>
>>> Who has the oldest ebay account?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

[Tim Reichhart]

See Rory I am not using 5Ghz equipment like sectors at the grain silo I mean 
there just not enough room up there to do anything. I am only using 5Ghz for 
backhaul for now.

I mean I probably put up an small 5Ghz sector up there but I dont know if it 
will work or not.

Tim


-Original Message-
From: "Rory Conaway" 
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 11/30/15 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

 
I meant put up a Powerbeam on the side of the customer.
 
Rory
 
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue
 
So you guys are saying I should put up ptp for the customer? Wouldnt I have the 
same issue with the signal problem as I have with the nanobeam? Since there is 
edge of the woods I am hitting?


 

-Original Message-
From: "Justin Wilson - MTIN" 
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 11/30/15 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue
Yeah not a bad idea.  I haven't had a good or bad experience with swapping 
heads on these.  I know they aren't that finely tuned for the frequency.

 
 

 

 
Justin Wilson

j...@mtin.net

 

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On Nov 29, 2015, at 11:53 PM, Rory Conaway  wrote:
 
 
If it's me, I just get the Powerbeam PBE-M5-620.  You pick up another 4dBi on 
the antenna gain.

 

Rory

 

 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:21 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue 

 
How about LiteBeam?  Seem to work pretty well for Sonic Ranch folks out to 
studios and guest houses
 
On Nov 29, 2015 7:05 PM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

 
The power output of the Powerbeam is much higher.  However, it probably isn't 
much better on the receive side other than a slightly better chipset.

 

Rory

 

 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 6:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue 

 

 
Justin
whats the gain on the airgrid vs the dish?
 



-Original Message-
From: "Justin Wilson - MTIN" 
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 11/29/15 08:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

Depends on noise floor. The nano beam m2-13 is only 13DBI. If you want to sep 
up to a bigger dish that would get you more gain. As much as folks don't like 
the air grids in 2.4 GHZ it's hard to beat the AG-HP-2G20.



Justin Wilson
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On Nov 29, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Tim Reichhart  
wrote:

would rocket dish 2g with rocket m2 fix an link issue because today I tried 
with an nanobeam m2 and link from customer to ap is about 3 miles and I was 
getting anywhere from -70 to -75.










  
  

  
  


  

 
 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[Ty Featherling]

Feb 15, 1999. I was still in High School.

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists  wrote:

> Jun 17, 1998… It m*ust have been a popular year.*
>
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
> Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN  wrote:
>
> July 1998. Have a business account that is newer, with more transactions.
>
> 
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
> On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> Member since: Dec 23, 2000
>
> Who has the oldest ebay account?
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[Ty Featherling]

LOL What I was buying then I don't recall. It was only a few months before
I graduated. I had my money on it being in 2000 once I was out on my own
and employed.

-Ty



-Ty

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> 2005 here.  I was also in high school.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Ty Featherling 
> wrote:
>
>> Feb 15, 1999. I was still in High School.
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ty
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists <
>> lis...@joshaven.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jun 17, 1998… It m*ust have been a popular year.*
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Joshaven Potter
>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
>>> Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
>>> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
>>> supp...@joshaven.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> July 1998. Have a business account that is newer, with more transactions.
>>>
>>> 
>>> Justin Wilson
>>> j...@mtin.net
>>>
>>> ---
>>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>>
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
>>> Member since: Dec 23, 2000
>>>
>>> Who has the oldest ebay account?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Light Based Internet Li-Fi Could One Day Replace Wi-Fi STGIST

[Rory Conaway]

They have been working on this for years in the U.S. also.  It have very 
limited application.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Light Based Internet Li-Fi Could One Day Replace Wi-Fi 
STGIST

Or the blinking LED being washed out by regular lights.
Bah, three letters for what’s wrong with that, LOS (lol!)

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:39 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Light Based Internet Li-Fi Could One Day Replace Wi-Fi STGIST


http://stgist.com/2015/11/light-based-internet-connection-li-fi-could-one-day-replace-wi-fi-5866

Re: [AFMUG] test 2 - hello?

[Ken Hohhof]

Try covering one eye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46btEgKmCTo


-Original Message- 
From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 8:51 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] test 2 - hello? 

Damnit I'm getting the double emails again.

Is my "stuff" just totally jacked up, or is everybody else seeing
double posts as well?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> reply test
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>> Am I the only one having list issues?
>>
>> I just realized I could receive emails but the list wasn't accepting
>> mine. I tried unsubscribing and resubscribing... hopefully this fixes
>> it.

Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

[Rory Conaway]

I meant put up a Powerbeam on the side of the customer.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

So you guys are saying I should put up ptp for the customer? Wouldnt I have the 
same issue with the signal problem as I have with the nanobeam? Since there is 
edge of the woods I am hitting?



-Original Message-
From: "Justin Wilson - MTIN" >
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 11/30/15 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue
Yeah not a bad idea.  I haven't had a good or bad experience with swapping 
heads on these.  I know they aren't that finely tuned for the frequency.




Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net
 Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting - Data Centers - Bandwidth


 
http://www.midwest-ix.com
  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric


On Nov 29, 2015, at 11:53 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:


If it's me, I just get the Powerbeam PBE-M5-620.  You pick up another 4dBi on 
the antenna gain.

Rory

 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:21 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

How about LiteBeam?  Seem to work pretty well for Sonic Ranch folks out to 
studios and guest houses

On Nov 29, 2015 7:05 PM, "Rory Conaway" 
> wrote:

The power output of the Powerbeam is much higher.  However, it probably isn't 
much better on the receive side other than a slightly better chipset.

Rory

 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Tim Reichhart
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 6:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue


Justin
whats the gain on the airgrid vs the dish?


-Original Message-
From: "Justin Wilson - MTIN" >
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 11/29/15 08:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] would rocket dish 2g fix an link issue

Depends on noise floor. The nano beam m2-13 is only 13DBI. If you want to sep 
up to a bigger dish that would get you more gain. As much as folks don't like 
the air grids in 2.4 GHZ it's hard to beat the AG-HP-2G20.



Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net
 Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting - Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com
 COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

On Nov 29, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Tim Reichhart 
> wrote:

would rocket dish 2g with rocket m2 fix an link issue because today I tried 
with an nanobeam m2 and link from customer to ap is about 3 miles and I was 
getting anywhere from -70 to -75.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[Josh Luthman]

2005 here.  I was also in high school.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Ty Featherling 
wrote:

> Feb 15, 1999. I was still in High School.
>
> -Ty
>
>
>
> -Ty
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists <
> lis...@joshaven.com> wrote:
>
>> Jun 17, 1998… It m*ust have been a popular year.*
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Joshaven Potter
>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
>> Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
>> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
>> supp...@joshaven.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN  wrote:
>>
>> July 1998. Have a business account that is newer, with more transactions.
>>
>> 
>> Justin Wilson
>> j...@mtin.net
>>
>> ---
>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>> Member since: Dec 23, 2000
>>
>> Who has the oldest ebay account?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave management traffic won't route

[Kerry]

Are these units on a /30? Something is rattling around in the dusty 
corners of my brain, try a /29 subnet.


On 11/29/2015 1:24 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
I have a couple 23ghz horizon compacts on one subnet of our network 
and they show the same symptom that you describe. Dragonwave support 
told me it's something with my router or subnet (even though 
everything else works and responds just fine)  I finally gave up and I 
have a computer I can remote into if I need to access those radios.


If you find a solution I'd love to know what it is...its been driving 
me nuts for literally years.


-Sean


On Tuesday, November 24, 2015, Chris Wright > wrote:


I’m currently dealing with a Dragonwave backhaul giving me grief. 
Every other device on the tower works great save for the one

backhaul which is unreachable unless you’re on the same subnet.
APs and CPEs on the tower can ping it, the router at the tower can
ping it, and I can ping everything on the tower except it.  The
address/gateway/subnet mask are all correct, and I can verify icmp
packets make it all the way to the router to which they are both
connected via a L2 switch.  In-band management is in use. Anyone
run into this before?

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

Velociter Wireless

209-838-1221 x115

Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave management traffic won't route

[Sean Heskett]

They are in a private /24

All the other dragonwave radios at this site and all the APs, switches,
UPSs etc respond just fine.  It's just these 3 links that are horizon
compacts that only respond when you are directly connected and in that
subnet.

-Sean


On Monday, November 30, 2015, Kerry  wrote:

> Are these units on a /30? Something is rattling around in the dusty
> corners of my brain, try a /29 subnet.
>
> On 11/29/2015 1:24 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>
> I have a couple 23ghz horizon compacts on one subnet of our network and
> they show the same symptom that you describe.  Dragonwave support told me
> it's something with my router or subnet (even though everything else works
> and responds just fine)  I finally gave up and I have a computer I can
> remote into if I need to access those radios.
>
> If you find a solution I'd love to know what it is...its been driving me
> nuts for literally years.
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2015, Chris Wright <
> ch...@velociter.net
> > wrote:
>
>> I’m currently dealing with a Dragonwave backhaul giving me grief.  Every
>> other device on the tower works great save for the one backhaul which is
>> unreachable unless you’re on the same subnet. APs and CPEs on the tower can
>> ping it, the router at the tower can ping it, and I can ping everything on
>> the tower except it.  The address/gateway/subnet mask are all correct, and
>> I can verify icmp packets make it all the way to the router to which they
>> are both connected via a L2 switch.  In-band management is in use. Anyone
>> run into this before?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Wright
>>
>> Network Administrator
>>
>> Velociter Wireless
>>
>> 209-838-1221 x115
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP

[Matt]

Any chance a PTP450i or PTP450 could talk to a PTP430?  Would make some
pending upgrades SO much easier.


On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Aaron Schneider <
aaron.schnei...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:

> Yes, just be aware that for 430 to talk to 450i AP in its native mode, the
> 430's will need to be the latest 13.4.1 Open Beta.  Otherwise, you'll have
> to enable the "legacy mode" on the 450i AP to let the older SW register.
> Enabling this mode limits the radio HW Queue depths to be compatible with
> the older SW.
>
>
>
> The SMs need to be upgraded to be able to detect these new depths and
> adapt automatically during registration.  For 430, 13.4.1 was the first
> load which supports this, and for 450, 13.3 was the first load which
> supports this (it originally came with 5ms Frame support, which was/is a
> 450/450i only feature).
>
>
>
> You can find this option on the 450i AP's Radio Configuration page:
>
>
>
>
>
> This is only there for you to use for migration of SW releases – it is not
> meant to be on indefinitely once all of your SMs are on acceptable releases
> (which is now 14.1.1 for 450i/450 sectors, including 450/430 SMs), as
> having it on will impact the performance capability of the 450i AP.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -Aaron
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sriram Chaturvedi
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:06 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP
>
>
>
> Yes you can, Mark.
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Mark Radabaugh <
> m...@amplex.net>
>
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 12:35 PM
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP
>
>
>
> We have a number of towers to convert from 4 450’s with 90 degree sectors
> to 6 AP’s with 60 degree sectors.   Most of these are already at 80-90% 450
> SM’s.   I was asking if I can go directly to 450i AP’s without having to
> finish collecting the 430’s.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> > On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi <
> sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hi Chuck, I was directly responding to Mark’s question on 430 “upgrade”
> project where I assumed he was eventually going to upgrade his 430 SMs to
> 450/450i. Perhaps it was an incorrect assumption. Believe it or not, my
> responses aren’t loaded when I post here.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >> On Nov 28, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> "right away" sounds ominous
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> -Original Message- From: Sriram Chaturvedi
>
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 8:00 AM
>
> >> To: af@afmug.com
>
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP
>
> >>
>
> >> 450i AP will interop with 430 SMs. You don't need to swap the SMs out
> right away.
>
> >>
>
> >> Thanks,
>
> >> Sriram
>
> >>
>
> >> 
>
> >> From: Af  on behalf of Mark Radabaugh <
> m...@amplex.net>
>
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 8:24 AM
>
> >> To: af@afmug.com
>
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP
>
> >>
>
> >> How about 450i AP to 430 SM? I would like to start deploying 450i
> instead of 450 for 430 upgrade projects.  Do I have to get all of the 430
> SM�s swapped first?
>
> >>
>
> >> Mark
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>> On Nov 27, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Aaron Schneider <
> aaron.schnei...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>> It should work, but at the moment I can�t recall if/when we tried
> this with PTP mode.  I�ll let you know.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> 450i - 450 isn�t really an �interop� situation like 430 - 450
> was.  430 - 450 was quite a bit different, needing SISO to talk to MIMO
> with the way we did MIMO at first (MIMO-B using both channels for data).
> 450i - 450 is much more similar, and we have been using that combination
> internally for a long time.  It wasn�t part of the initial release of
> 450i due to needing to focus on the HW release itself.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> I�ll be in touch on the PTP question.  It is important to allow you
> to upgrade a PTP link one end at a time.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Regards,
>
> >>> -Aaron
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>> On 11/27/15, 12:09 AM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup" 
> >>>  on behalf of geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
> >>>
>
>  I thought interop was only for PMP?
>
> 
>
>  On 11/26/2015 11:38 PM, Matt wrote:
>
> > Is it possible for a PTP450i master to talk to a PTP450 slave now?
>
> 
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP

[George Skorup]

When are we looking at 13.4.1 official? It would be nice to bring up all 
of the FSK to 13.4.1 official and 450 to 14.1.1 at the same time.


On 11/30/2015 11:49 AM, Aaron Schneider wrote:


Yes, just be aware that for 430 to talk to 450i AP in its native mode, 
the 430's will need to be the latest 13.4.1 Open Beta.  Otherwise, 
you'll have to enable the "legacy mode" on the 450i AP to let the 
older SW register. Enabling this mode limits the radio HW Queue depths 
to be compatible with the older SW.


The SMs need to be upgraded to be able to detect these new depths and 
adapt automatically during registration.  For 430, 13.4.1 was the 
first load which supports this, and for 450, 13.3 was the first load 
which supports this (it originally came with 5ms Frame support, which 
was/is a 450/450i only feature).


You can find this option on the 450i AP's Radio Configuration page:

This is only there for you to use for migration of SW releases � it is 
not meant to be on indefinitely once all of your SMs are on acceptable 
releases (which is now 14.1.1 for 450i/450 sectors, including 450/430 
SMs), as having it on will impact the performance capability of the 
450i AP.


Regards,

-Aaron

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sriram Chaturvedi
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP

Yes you can, Mark.



From: Af > on 
behalf of Mark Radabaugh >


Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 12:35 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP

We have a number of towers to convert from 4 450�s with 90 degree 
sectors to 6 AP�s with 60 degree sectors.   Most of these are already 
at 80-90% 450 SM�s.   I was asking if I can go directly to 450i AP�s 
without having to finish collecting the 430�s.


Mark

> On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
> wrote:


>

> Hi Chuck, I was directly responding to Mark�s question on 430 
�upgrade� project where I assumed he was eventually going to upgrade 
his 430 SMs to 450/450i. Perhaps it was an incorrect assumption. 
Believe it or not, my responses aren�t loaded when I post here.


>

>

>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


>>

>> "right away" sounds ominous

>>

>>

>> -Original Message- From: Sriram Chaturvedi

>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 8:00 AM

>> To: af@afmug.com 

>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP

>>

>> 450i AP will interop with 430 SMs. You don't need to swap the SMs 
out right away.


>>

>> Thanks,

>> Sriram

>>

>> 

>> From: Af > on 
behalf of Mark Radabaugh >


>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 8:24 AM

>> To: af@afmug.com 

>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP

>>

>> How about 450i AP to 430 SM? I would like to start deploying 
450i instead of 450 for 430 upgrade projects.  Do I have to get all of 
the 430 SM�s swapped first?


>>

>> Mark

>>

>>

>>> On Nov 27, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Aaron Schneider 
> wrote:


>>>

>>> It should work, but at the moment I can�t recall if/when we 
tried this with PTP mode. I�ll let you know.


>>>

>>> 450i - 450 isn�t really an �interop� situation like 430 - 
450 was.  430 - 450 was quite a bit different, needing SISO to talk to 
MIMO with the way we did MIMO at first (MIMO-B using both channels for 
data).  450i - 450 is much more similar, and we have been using that 
combination internally for a long time.  It wasn�t part of the 
initial release of 450i due to needing to focus on the HW release itself.


>>>

>>> I�ll be in touch on the PTP question.  It is important to allow 
you to upgrade a PTP link one end at a time.


>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> -Aaron

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On 11/27/15, 12:09 AM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup" 
> 
wrote:


>>>

 I thought interop was only for PMP?



 On 11/26/2015 11:38 PM, Matt wrote:

> Is it possible for a PTP450i master to talk to a PTP450 slave now?



>>

>

>

Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

[Josh Baird]

Double email (when you send) seems to be normal for whatever reason.

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> 
> I'm going to counter this with my experiences...
> 
> I could receive list mail, but I wasn't subscribed. How?
> 
> Requested removal again, this time I stopped getting mail.
> 
> Requested list again, authorized the list and amazonses. Now when I send 
> mail, I see it hit twice... Once from "afmug", once from amazonses.
> 
> Using google mail.
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2015 12:58 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:
>> Guys,
>> 
>> I need to jump in here.  There is nothing going on with the list... hasn't 
>> missed a beat in about 6 months.  AWS has been rock-solid for us.
>> 
>> However, if you have any delivery problems (AWS not able to talk to your 
>> mail server) you WILL get put on the AWS suppression list, and we have to 
>> submit to have you removed from that list, which happens very quickly.
>> 
>> I know that one of the suggested fixes for any AFMUG mail related concerns, 
>> has been to unsubscribe, then resubscribe, that is only a fix for a very 
>> small number of cases.   You are welcome to try that as it doesn't hurt 
>> anything.  Again though, if your problems related to non-delivery of mail to 
>> your server for any reason, that problem is only fixed through submitting to 
>> AWS to get off the suppression list.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>> From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill Prince 
>> [part15...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:03 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123
>> 
>> You have an anti-AWS virus.
>> 
>> bp
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/30/2015 9:59 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
>>> If you see this can you reply here and cc t...@voltbb.com ? Having problems 
>>> with the list!

Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

[Chuck McCown]

But the list doesn’t see it, only you.  I think it is a gmail artifact.  

From: Josh Baird 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

Double email (when you send) seems to be normal for whatever reason.


On Nov 30, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:


  I'm going to counter this with my experiences...

  I could receive list mail, but I wasn't subscribed. How?

  Requested removal again, this time I stopped getting mail.

  Requested list again, authorized the list and amazonses. Now when I send 
mail, I see it hit twice... Once from "afmug", once from amazonses.

  Using google mail.

  On Nov 30, 2015 12:58 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:

Guys,

I need to jump in here.  There is nothing going on with the list... hasn't 
missed a beat in about 6 months.  AWS has been rock-solid for us.

However, if you have any delivery problems (AWS not able to talk to your 
mail server) you WILL get put on the AWS suppression list, and we have to 
submit to have you removed from that list, which happens very quickly.

I know that one of the suggested fixes for any AFMUG mail related concerns, 
has been to unsubscribe, then resubscribe, that is only a fix for a very small 
number of cases.   You are welcome to try that as it doesn't hurt anything.  
Again though, if your problems related to non-delivery of mail to your server 
for any reason, that problem is only fixed through submitting to AWS to get off 
the suppression list.

Paul






From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Bill Prince 
[part15...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123


You have an anti-AWS virus.


bp


On 11/30/2015 9:59 AM, TJ Trout wrote:

  If you see this can you reply here and cc t...@voltbb.com ? Having 
problems with the list!

Re: [AFMUG] epmp gps ap on cmm micro

[Josh Luthman]

CMM3 right?

[image: Inline image 1]


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I know theres no gigabit
>
> Will these power and obtain sync from cmm micro?
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

[AFMUG] Testing 123

[TJ Trout]

If you see this can you reply here and cc t...@voltbb.com ? Having problems
with the list!

Re: [AFMUG] Work boots

[Josh Reynolds]

Haven't had those.

Last year I bought a pair of Carolina Logger Boots. Leather, composite
toe, composite shank, oil resistant tread, 8", thinsulated, no raised
heel, waterproof, shock resistant to some insane level. I bought them
for climbing towers in the middle of winter when I was in Alaska. Let
me tell you, mission accomplished. I love these boots.

They're holding up very well. I expect about ten years out of them
with the way they look now... Maybe longer.

Carolina has hundreds of different feature combinations, in a few
colors. They can be spendy and hard to find who has the exact model,
but their corporate hq was very helpful to me when I was trying to
find the right model.

On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Jaime Solorza
 wrote:
> For years I have worn Caterpillar or Wolverine boots.  Today my wife got me
> a pair of Chinook Tarantulas ...let's see how they feel after a few days...
> Right know they are comfortable but stiff.  My get some Dr Scholls inserts
> later... My feet have been aching so hope these help.   Has anyone had any
> of these before?

Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

[Chuck McCown]

yes

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Testing 123

If you see this can you reply here and cc t...@voltbb.com ? Having problems 
with the list!

Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

[Josh Reynolds]

I can see this...

WTF is going on with the list lately?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:59 AM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> If you see this can you reply here and cc t...@voltbb.com ? Having problems
> with the list!

Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

[Josh Luthman]

Well since it's working just fine for me and probably a bunch of
others...probably your server...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> I can see this...
>
> WTF is going on with the list lately?
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:59 AM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> > If you see this can you reply here and cc t...@voltbb.com ? Having
> problems
> > with the list!
>

[AFMUG] epmp gps ap on cmm micro

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I know theres no gigabit

Will these power and obtain sync from cmm micro?

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP

[Aaron Schneider]

Yes, just be aware that for 430 to talk to 450i AP in its native mode, the 
430's will need to be the latest 13.4.1 Open Beta.  Otherwise, you'll have to 
enable the "legacy mode" on the 450i AP to let the older SW register.  Enabling 
this mode limits the radio HW Queue depths to be compatible with the older SW.



The SMs need to be upgraded to be able to detect these new depths and adapt 
automatically during registration.  For 430, 13.4.1 was the first load which 
supports this, and for 450, 13.3 was the first load which supports this (it 
originally came with 5ms Frame support, which was/is a 450/450i only feature).



You can find this option on the 450i AP's Radio Configuration page:



[cid:image002.jpg@01D12B65.35FCDB70]



This is only there for you to use for migration of SW releases - it is not 
meant to be on indefinitely once all of your SMs are on acceptable releases 
(which is now 14.1.1 for 450i/450 sectors, including 450/430 SMs), as having it 
on will impact the performance capability of the 450i AP.



Regards,

-Aaron





-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sriram Chaturvedi
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP



Yes you can, Mark.





From: Af > on behalf of Mark 
Radabaugh >

Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 12:35 PM

To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP



We have a number of towers to convert from 4 450's with 90 degree sectors to 6 
AP's with 60 degree sectors.   Most of these are already at 80-90% 450 SM's.   
I was asking if I can go directly to 450i AP's without having to finish 
collecting the 430's.



Mark



> On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi 
> >
>  wrote:

>

> Hi Chuck, I was directly responding to Mark's question on 430 "upgrade" 
> project where I assumed he was eventually going to upgrade his 430 SMs to 
> 450/450i. Perhaps it was an incorrect assumption. Believe it or not, my 
> responses aren't loaded when I post here.

>

>

>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown 
>> > wrote:

>>

>> "right away" sounds ominous

>>

>>

>> -Original Message- From: Sriram Chaturvedi

>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 8:00 AM

>> To: af@afmug.com

>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP

>>

>> 450i AP will interop with 430 SMs. You don't need to swap the SMs out right 
>> away.

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Sriram

>>

>> 

>> From: Af > on behalf of 
>> Mark Radabaugh >

>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 8:24 AM

>> To: af@afmug.com

>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP

>>

>> How about 450i AP to 430 SM? I would like to start deploying 450i 
>> instead of 450 for 430 upgrade projects.  Do I have to get all of the 430 
>> SM�s swapped first?

>>

>> Mark

>>

>>

>>> On Nov 27, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Aaron Schneider 
>>> >
>>>  wrote:

>>>

>>> It should work, but at the moment I can�t recall if/when we tried this 
>>> with PTP mode.  I�ll let you know.

>>>

>>> 450i - 450 isn�t really an �interop� situation like 430 - 450 was.  
>>> 430 - 450 was quite a bit different, needing SISO to talk to MIMO with the 
>>> way we did MIMO at first (MIMO-B using both channels for data).  450i - 450 
>>> is much more similar, and we have been using that combination internally 
>>> for a long time.  It wasn�t part of the initial release of 450i due to 
>>> needing to focus on the HW release itself.

>>>

>>> I�ll be in touch on the PTP question.  It is important to allow you to 
>>> upgrade a PTP link one end at a time.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> -Aaron

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On 11/27/15, 12:09 AM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup" 
>>> >> geo...@cbcast.com>
>>>  wrote:

>>>

 I thought interop was only for PMP?



 On 11/26/2015 11:38 PM, Matt wrote:

> Is it possible for a PTP450i master to talk to a PTP450 slave now?



>>

>

>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[Jaime Solorza]

i found my expired Radio Shack Battery club card.does it count?


On Nov 30, 2015 7:51 AM, "Joshaven Mailing Lists" 
wrote:

> Jun 17, 1998… It m*ust have been a popular year.*
>
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
> Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN  wrote:
>
> July 1998. Have a business account that is newer, with more transactions.
>
> 
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
> On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> Member since: Dec 23, 2000
>
> Who has the oldest ebay account?
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

[Josh Reynolds]

Oh, you mean google? :)

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:
> Well since it's working just fine for me and probably a bunch of
> others...probably your server...
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>> I can see this...
>>
>> WTF is going on with the list lately?
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:59 AM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>> > If you see this can you reply here and cc t...@voltbb.com ? Having
>> > problems
>> > with the list!
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Testing 123

[Jaime Solorza]

no

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> yes
>
> *From:* TJ Trout 
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 10:59 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Testing 123
>
>
> If you see this can you reply here and cc t...@voltbb.com ? Having problems
> with the list!
>

Re: [AFMUG] epmp gps ap on cmm micro

[Josh Luthman]

I want to say it is.  To my recollection

1070 cmm3
1090 cmm4


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:08 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is the cmmmicro considered cmm3? its only 29v canopy output
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> CMM3 right?
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I know theres no gigabit
>>>
>>> Will these power and obtain sync from cmm micro?
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Ebay

[Chuck Hogg]

shelbybroadband  (404

)
100% positive feedback
Member since: Dec 01, 1997

Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> 2003... but I don't have my original account anymore, I'm pretty sure that
> would've been 2000 or 2001, also in high school.
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> 2005 here.  I was also in high school.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Ty Featherling > > wrote:
>>
>>> Feb 15, 1999. I was still in High School.
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists <
>>> lis...@joshaven.com> wrote:
>>>
 Jun 17, 1998… It m*ust have been a popular year.*

 Sincerely,
 Joshaven Potter
 MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
 Google Hangouts: yourt...@gmail.com
 Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
 supp...@joshaven.com



 On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN 
 wrote:

 July 1998. Have a business account that is newer, with more
 transactions.

 
 Justin Wilson
 j...@mtin.net

 ---
 http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
 xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

 http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
 Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

 On Nov 29, 2015, at 4:09 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

 Member since: Dec 23, 2000

 Who has the oldest ebay account?




>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[Josh Luthman]

>From 7?  Up to you...

>From 8?  YES


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> From win7 or win8?
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> > Should I upgrade to Windows 10?
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[Ken Hohhof]

I got a warning that if I upgraded to Win10, I would have to upgrade my 
Quickbooks as well.


-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

I've only used it on 1 netbook, but have had a lot of Wired ethernet
problems so far.  I think there is a physical switch in the RJ45 port
that enables/disables the port and windows10 gets realy confused.


On 11/30/2015 2:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

 From win7 or win8?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Should I upgrade to Windows 10?

[AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[Chuck McCown]

Should I upgrade to Windows 10?

Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[Chuck McCown]

7

-Original Message- 
From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:11 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10 


From win7 or win8?


On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Should I upgrade to Windows 10?

Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[Chuck McCown]

ug

-Original Message- 
From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:15 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10 

I got a warning that if I upgraded to Win10, I would have to upgrade my 
Quickbooks as well.


-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

I've only used it on 1 netbook, but have had a lot of Wired ethernet
problems so far.  I think there is a physical switch in the RJ45 port
that enables/disables the port and windows10 gets realy confused.


On 11/30/2015 2:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

 From win7 or win8?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Should I upgrade to Windows 10?

Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[George Skorup]

I upgraded all of my 7 and 8 machines to 10, and now the 1511 update. 
Windows 8 was a POS. 7 was OK and I've definitely seen performance 
improvements by going to 10.


On 11/30/2015 2:14 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

7

-Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, November 
30, 2015 1:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or 
not to Win10

From win7 or win8?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Should I upgrade to Windows 10?

Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[Nate Burke]

I've only used it on 1 netbook, but have had a lot of Wired ethernet 
problems so far.  I think there is a physical switch in the RJ45 port 
that enables/disables the port and windows10 gets realy confused.



On 11/30/2015 2:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

 From win7 or win8?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Should I upgrade to Windows 10?

[AFMUG] OT: Remote offices and Shared Devices

[Nate Burke]

I know many of you have multiple offices, probably one at the shop and 
one at home.  How do you link them all together?  Do you VPN in at a 
machine or Router level?  Make the home network an extension of the 
office network via a tunnel?  Or just do firewall rules to allow the 
home machines in?  Do you Isolate the rest of your home machines from 
your 'work' machine?


The only things I really need to keep access to are Mapped/shared 
drives, and Network Printers.  I.E. Home accessing a share on a server 
at the shop, or Server at the Shop printing to a printer at home.

Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[Kerry]

I have it on two laptops, no issue with the one, but the newer one has 
had 4-5 'blue screen' issues which never happened when it was on 7 pro.
I haven't run Quickbooks in several years, but I'm using a 2013 version 
of Quicken on win10 with no issues.



On 11/30/2015 3:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I got a warning that if I upgraded to Win10, I would have to upgrade 
my Quickbooks as well.


-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

I've only used it on 1 netbook, but have had a lot of Wired ethernet
problems so far.  I think there is a physical switch in the RJ45 port
that enables/disables the port and windows10 gets realy confused.


On 11/30/2015 2:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

 From win7 or win8?

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Should I upgrade to Windows 10?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Remote offices and Shared Devices

[Josh Luthman]

I would suggest doing a VPN for a particular machine.  There's no need to
create a tunnel for your entire home.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> I know many of you have multiple offices, probably one at the shop and one
> at home.  How do you link them all together?  Do you VPN in at a machine or
> Router level?  Make the home network an extension of the office network via
> a tunnel?  Or just do firewall rules to allow the home machines in?  Do you
> Isolate the rest of your home machines from your 'work' machine?
>
> The only things I really need to keep access to are Mapped/shared drives,
> and Network Printers.  I.E. Home accessing a share on a server at the shop,
> or Server at the Shop printing to a printer at home.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Remote offices and Shared Devices

[Josh Reynolds]

If we weren't on net, we had a VPN in to the network.

There was a fileshare, and also a linked OwnCloud instance.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
> I know many of you have multiple offices, probably one at the shop and one
> at home.  How do you link them all together?  Do you VPN in at a machine or
> Router level?  Make the home network an extension of the office network via
> a tunnel?  Or just do firewall rules to allow the home machines in?  Do you
> Isolate the rest of your home machines from your 'work' machine?
>
> The only things I really need to keep access to are Mapped/shared drives,
> and Network Printers.  I.E. Home accessing a share on a server at the shop,
> or Server at the Shop printing to a printer at home.
>
>

[AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[Chuck McCown]

Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that will do 20 
watts.  
Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap.  Looking for something in the $20 
range.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Its a different beast, I did it on my laptop, tried to get behind edge, but
its just not big leagues ready yet, back to chrome, I have alot of bugs,
but could just be that I did an upgrade, then a win10 restore keeping
profile data

Unless youre ready to work with microsoft accounts, its not worth it if you
use different accounts for different microsoft resources, you can set them
up with independent credentials but they merge

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Kerry  wrote:

> I have it on two laptops, no issue with the one, but the newer one has had
> 4-5 'blue screen' issues which never happened when it was on 7 pro.
> I haven't run Quickbooks in several years, but I'm using a 2013 version of
> Quicken on win10 with no issues.
>
>
> On 11/30/2015 3:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>> I got a warning that if I upgraded to Win10, I would have to upgrade my
>> Quickbooks as well.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:14 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10
>>
>> I've only used it on 1 netbook, but have had a lot of Wired ethernet
>> problems so far.  I think there is a physical switch in the RJ45 port
>> that enables/disables the port and windows10 gets realy confused.
>>
>>
>> On 11/30/2015 2:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>>>  From win7 or win8?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 Should I upgrade to Windows 10?

>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Remote offices and Shared Devices

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

We have a windows terminal server for direct RDP
I keep an active turbomeeting remote access session on my workstation
We have an SSL vpn

I operate from my laptop here and at home/in the field, we keep non
confidential files synced between the whole mess on onedrive

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> If we weren't on net, we had a VPN in to the network.
>
> There was a fileshare, and also a linked OwnCloud instance.
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
> > I know many of you have multiple offices, probably one at the shop and
> one
> > at home.  How do you link them all together?  Do you VPN in at a machine
> or
> > Router level?  Make the home network an extension of the office network
> via
> > a tunnel?  Or just do firewall rules to allow the home machines in?  Do
> you
> > Isolate the rest of your home machines from your 'work' machine?
> >
> > The only things I really need to keep access to are Mapped/shared drives,
> > and Network Printers.  I.E. Home accessing a share on a server at the
> shop,
> > or Server at the Shop printing to a printer at home.
> >
> >
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[Jaime Solorza]

I am still on 7...too many issues with 10...I will wait it out...I have
back up laptop in XP as well
On Nov 30, 2015 1:38 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> Its a different beast, I did it on my laptop, tried to get behind edge,
> but its just not big leagues ready yet, back to chrome, I have alot of
> bugs, but could just be that I did an upgrade, then a win10 restore keeping
> profile data
>
> Unless youre ready to work with microsoft accounts, its not worth it if
> you use different accounts for different microsoft resources, you can set
> them up with independent credentials but they merge
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Kerry  wrote:
>
>> I have it on two laptops, no issue with the one, but the newer one has
>> had 4-5 'blue screen' issues which never happened when it was on 7 pro.
>> I haven't run Quickbooks in several years, but I'm using a 2013 version
>> of Quicken on win10 with no issues.
>>
>>
>> On 11/30/2015 3:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>>> I got a warning that if I upgraded to Win10, I would have to upgrade my
>>> Quickbooks as well.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:14 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10
>>>
>>> I've only used it on 1 netbook, but have had a lot of Wired ethernet
>>> problems so far.  I think there is a physical switch in the RJ45 port
>>> that enables/disables the port and windows10 gets realy confused.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/30/2015 2:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
  From win7 or win8?

 On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Should I upgrade to Windows 10?
>

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10

[Josh Reynolds]

I don't use edge for anything, except for a single local government
website that refuses to work on anything else (Really? What is this,
1997?)

Anywho, win10 has been great for me. Just as stable (if not more so)
than win7 was, and a hell of a lot better than 8 and 8.1. Performance
and battery life have been good.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:38 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:
> Its a different beast, I did it on my laptop, tried to get behind edge, but
> its just not big leagues ready yet, back to chrome, I have alot of bugs, but
> could just be that I did an upgrade, then a win10 restore keeping profile
> data
>
> Unless youre ready to work with microsoft accounts, its not worth it if you
> use different accounts for different microsoft resources, you can set them
> up with independent credentials but they merge
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Kerry  wrote:
>>
>> I have it on two laptops, no issue with the one, but the newer one has had
>> 4-5 'blue screen' issues which never happened when it was on 7 pro.
>> I haven't run Quickbooks in several years, but I'm using a 2013 version of
>> Quicken on win10 with no issues.
>>
>>
>> On 11/30/2015 3:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> I got a warning that if I upgraded to Win10, I would have to upgrade my
>>> Quickbooks as well.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke
>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:14 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT to Win10 or not to Win10
>>>
>>> I've only used it on 1 netbook, but have had a lot of Wired ethernet
>>> problems so far.  I think there is a physical switch in the RJ45 port
>>> that enables/disables the port and windows10 gets realy confused.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/30/2015 2:11 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

  From win7 or win8?

 On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> Should I upgrade to Windows 10?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[SmarterBroadband]

How about $11.

 

We have used these to power radios off batteries for installers.  They are
adjustable - we set them 48v out on 16.2v battery packs. 

 

http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZ
R9PBW

 

Adam 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

 

Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that will do 20
watts.  

Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap.  Looking for something in the $20
range.  

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[Chuck McCown]

Need 48 in, 12 out.

From: SmarterBroadband 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

How about $11.

 

We have used these to power radios off batteries for installers.  They are 
adjustable - we set them 48v out on 16.2v battery packs. 

 

http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZR9PBW

 

Adam 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

 

Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that will do 20 
watts.  

Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap.  Looking for something in the $20 
range.  

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

[Hardy, Tim]

80 MHz will get you 700 Mbps each way with one carrier, double that with 2 or 
XPIC which the dual core C model would allow.  I think you mentioned frequency 
congestion and that certainly would make XPIC or a 2nd pair that much more 
difficult to get.

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Sterling Jacobson 
[sterl...@avative.net]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 8:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

Yes, 11Ghz.

So that would be 80MHz total on the license?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

I seem to recall it was 11 GHz, right?  If so, and you have the wideband 
license you should try for 80 MHz bandwidth and depending on your capacity 
needs, you can go XPIC or other options.

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jon Langeler 
[jon-ispli...@michwave.net]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

Yes, ask for dual pol 60MHz. Or you can buy the 'splitter adapter' instead of 
the OMT and use two 60MHz channels on same polarity. This is for 6GHz right?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
>
> Question about this Ceragon IP20 I have.
>
> If I want the full 1Gbps out of it, according to these charts, I should use 
> two 30MHz channels per polarity, right?
> That would be for the 2+0 DP (2 x 500Mbps) Ceragon configuration.
>
> And when I go to license it, I ask the coordinator to allocate a 60MHz dual 
> polarity channel license?
>
> Or how exactly does this work?
>
> Thanks for your help peoples!
>
> [cid:image003.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]
> [cid:image004.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[Chuck McCown]

It is huge.  Looking for something that will be around for some time.  Things 
like this I fear are surplus/overruns/obsolete EOL products.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:44 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

how about $2.29?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-HRD-Converter-24v-36v-48v-Step-Down-To-12v-3A-Power-Module-Portable-/201239343894?hash=item2edaccb316:m:m9vd1B-jJ6zZr8sE6SAWNYQ




On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Need 48 in, 12 out.

  From: SmarterBroadband 
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:48 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

  How about $11.



  We have used these to power radios off batteries for installers.  They are 
adjustable - we set them 48v out on 16.2v battery packs. 



  
http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZR9PBW



  Adam 



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter



  Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that will do 20 
watts.  

  Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap.  Looking for something in the $20 
range.  

Re: [AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100

[Josh Luthman]

Can I get a discount on rev H for ePMP? =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> I was waiting to update the listing until we started shipping the Revision
> i syncinjectors and completely flushed out the Rev H injectors.  The 450i
> doesn't seem to like a long cable on a Rev H injector but we've fixed this
> in revision i.
>
> If you're planning on using a gigabit injector with a 450i with anything
> but a short cable,  I'd recommend buying a new one and putting a note in
> the comments on the order for them to include only revision I injectors on
> your order.
> On Nov 30, 2015 2:55 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> You can.  It will take up to 57v.
>>
>> And once again I'll yell at Forrest to correct that posting.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Josh,
>>>
>>> I was not sure if I could just put 48 volts to the unit powering the
>>> 450i or not.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>>
>>> GogebicRange.net
>>>
>>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 3:42 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://store.packetflux.com/gigabit-syncinjector-for-24-volt-cambium-radios/
>>>
>>> http://store.packetflux.com/syncpipe-basic/
>>>
>>> Plus a 24v and a 48v power supply (450i is 48v, fsk is 24v).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes you can daisy chain from the syncpipe, to the syncinjector and so on
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Brandon Yuchasz 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just to be clear can anyone tell me what version of syncinjector I need
>>> to run a pmp450i? Is there a version that can run both a 450i and pmp100
>>> AP? If not can I daisy chain the GPS sync from the first syncinjector
>>> running the 450i to the syncinjector running the older pmp100 aps?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>>
>>> GogebicRange.net
>>>
>>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[Chuck McCown]

I will, but need to kludge together a working prototype first.  Prove the 
concept, then try to sell the product.  

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

Can't you buy the needed parts and configure the PCB the way you want and do it 
all yourself? Like with a built-in RJ45 input?


On 11/30/2015 4:43 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  That’s a nice one.  

  From: Mathew Howard 
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:40 PM
  To: af 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

  Here's one that's a bit smaller, but probably still too big. who knows if it 
will be around for awhile... it's direct from China, but there's a ton of this 
sort of stuff on ebay and amazon.

  
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-LM2596HV-Buck-Converter-5V-60V-to-1-25V-26V-Power-Module-48V-to-3V-5V-12V-/301216970372?hash=item4621ee3684:g:Y98AAOSwq5lTnr-E



  On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:31 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

What's huge? A Mean Well RSD is going to be rather large. There's also the 
Traco DIN rail mount (TCL series, and that will be over $50/ea), but that is 
also pretty large. What application?


On 11/30/2015 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  It is huge.  Looking for something that will be around for some time.  
Things like this I fear are surplus/overruns/obsolete EOL products.  

  From: Mathew Howard 
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:44 PM
  To: af 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

  how about $2.29?


  
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-HRD-Converter-24v-36v-48v-Step-Down-To-12v-3A-Power-Module-Portable-/201239343894?hash=item2edaccb316:m:m9vd1B-jJ6zZr8sE6SAWNYQ




  On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Need 48 in, 12 out.

From: SmarterBroadband 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

How about $11.



We have used these to power radios off batteries for installers.  They 
are adjustable - we set them 48v out on 16.2v battery packs. 




http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZR9PBW



Adam 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter



Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that will do 
20 watts.  

Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap.  Looking for something in the 
$20 range.  

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[Jaime Solorza]

Dlink has a 48 in with 5 and 12vdc out you can easily take out of enclosure
and adapt
On Nov 30, 2015 3:40 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

> Here's one that's a bit smaller, but probably still too big. who knows if
> it will be around for awhile... it's direct from China, but there's a ton
> of this sort of stuff on ebay and amazon.
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-LM2596HV-Buck-Converter-5V-60V-to-1-25V-26V-Power-Module-48V-to-3V-5V-12V-/301216970372?hash=item4621ee3684:g:Y98AAOSwq5lTnr-E
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:31 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> What's huge? A Mean Well RSD is going to be rather large. There's also
>> the Traco DIN rail mount (TCL series, and that will be over $50/ea), but
>> that is also pretty large. What application?
>>
>> On 11/30/2015 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> It is huge.  Looking for something that will be around for some time.
>> Things like this I fear are surplus/overruns/obsolete EOL products.
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard 
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 2:44 PM
>> *To:* af 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter
>>
>> how about $2.29?
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-HRD-Converter-24v-36v-48v-Step-Down-To-12v-3A-Power-Module-Portable-/201239343894?hash=item2edaccb316:m:m9vd1B-jJ6zZr8sE6SAWNYQ
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown < 
>> ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Need 48 in, 12 out.
>>>
>>> *From:* SmarterBroadband 
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 1:48 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter
>>>
>>>
>>> How about $11.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have used these to power radios off batteries for installers.  They
>>> are adjustable - we set them 48v out on 16.2v battery packs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZR9PBW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that will do
>>> 20 watts.
>>>
>>> Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap.  Looking for something in the
>>> $20 range.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

[Daniel White]

Depends if you have the wideband version of the radio or not.  If your radio
can do the 80MHz wide channels, you want them.

You can get Gigabit a few different ways using the IP-20C... just depends on
the configuration of gear you have.  Best to ask the people that sold you
the gear... or you can send me the BOM offlist and I'll help get you
straight Sterling.

Crossover stocks a lot of the IP-20C product for our Tier 1 customers.

Thank you,

Daniel White
afmu...@gmail.com
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite

> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:44 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question
> 
> Yes, 11Ghz.
> 
> So that would be 80MHz total on the license?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:19 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question
> 
> I seem to recall it was 11 GHz, right?  If so, and you have the wideband
> license you should try for 80 MHz bandwidth and depending on your capacity
> needs, you can go XPIC or other options.
> 
> From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jon Langeler [jon-
> ispli...@michwave.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:40 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question
> 
> Yes, ask for dual pol 60MHz. Or you can buy the 'splitter adapter' instead
of
> the OMT and use two 60MHz channels on same polarity. This is for 6GHz
> right?
> 
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> 
> > On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
> >
> > Question about this Ceragon IP20 I have.
> >
> > If I want the full 1Gbps out of it, according to these charts, I should
use two
> 30MHz channels per polarity, right?
> > That would be for the 2+0 DP (2 x 500Mbps) Ceragon configuration.
> >
> > And when I go to license it, I ask the coordinator to allocate a 60MHz
dual
> polarity channel license?
> >
> > Or how exactly does this work?
> >
> > Thanks for your help peoples!
> >
> > [cid:image003.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]
> > [cid:image004.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]


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[AFMUG] front terminal telecom batteries for relay rack

[TJ Trout]

I need to make a 48v (4 battery) string that will mount in a relay rack, I
was looking at maybe northstar 12v 170ah batteries x 4

Are this the best way to go? Anything better or better price?

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

[Sterling Jacobson]

I'm pretty sure I don't have 160MHz available.

Maybe 120MHz if I'm lucky.

Maybe I just install and license for 500Mbps operation at 30MHz x 2 channels 
(60MHz?) and work on obtaining the licensing rights to 'upgrade' it to full 
1Gbps/ 40MHz x2 x2 channels 2+0 DP?


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

2 x 80

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

Yes, 11Ghz.

So that would be 80MHz total on the license? 

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

I seem to recall it was 11 GHz, right?  If so, and you have the wideband 
license you should try for 80 MHz bandwidth and depending on your capacity 
needs, you can go XPIC or other options.

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jon Langeler 
[jon-ispli...@michwave.net]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

Yes, ask for dual pol 60MHz. Or you can buy the 'splitter adapter' instead of 
the OMT and use two 60MHz channels on same polarity. This is for 6GHz right?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:
>
> Question about this Ceragon IP20 I have.
>
> If I want the full 1Gbps out of it, according to these charts, I 
> should
use two 30MHz channels per polarity, right?
> That would be for the 2+0 DP (2 x 500Mbps) Ceragon configuration.
>
> And when I go to license it, I ask the coordinator to allocate a 60MHz
dual polarity channel license?
>
> Or how exactly does this work?
>
> Thanks for your help peoples!
>
> [cid:image003.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]
> [cid:image004.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

[Hardy, Tim]

I seem to recall it was 11 GHz, right?  If so, and you have the wideband 
license you should try for 80 MHz bandwidth and depending on your capacity 
needs, you can go XPIC or other options.

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jon Langeler 
[jon-ispli...@michwave.net]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

Yes, ask for dual pol 60MHz. Or you can buy the 'splitter adapter' instead of 
the OMT and use two 60MHz channels on same polarity. This is for 6GHz right?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
>
> Question about this Ceragon IP20 I have.
>
> If I want the full 1Gbps out of it, according to these charts, I should use 
> two 30MHz channels per polarity, right?
> That would be for the 2+0 DP (2 x 500Mbps) Ceragon configuration.
>
> And when I go to license it, I ask the coordinator to allocate a 60MHz dual 
> polarity channel license?
>
> Or how exactly does this work?
>
> Thanks for your help peoples!
>
> [cid:image003.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]
> [cid:image004.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a mechanical drawings for a tower permit.

[John Woodfield]

Yes. David Hunt. wifi.engin...@gmail.com he does a damn good job for hardly any 
cost.
 
 
 
John Woodfield, President
Delmarva WiFi Inc.
410-870-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: "Rory Conaway" 
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 9:44pm
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for a mechanical drawings for a tower permit.




Anyone have a referral for this?
 
Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
[ r...@triadwireless.net ]( mailto:r...@triadwireless.net )
[ www.triadwireless.net ]( http://www.triadwireless.net/ )
 
“If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off. 
— Bill Veeck, former owner of the Chicago White Sox
 

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

[Sterling Jacobson]

Yes, 11Ghz.

So that would be 80MHz total on the license? 

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

I seem to recall it was 11 GHz, right?  If so, and you have the wideband 
license you should try for 80 MHz bandwidth and depending on your capacity 
needs, you can go XPIC or other options.

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jon Langeler 
[jon-ispli...@michwave.net]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

Yes, ask for dual pol 60MHz. Or you can buy the 'splitter adapter' instead of 
the OMT and use two 60MHz channels on same polarity. This is for 6GHz right?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
>
> Question about this Ceragon IP20 I have.
>
> If I want the full 1Gbps out of it, according to these charts, I should use 
> two 30MHz channels per polarity, right?
> That would be for the 2+0 DP (2 x 500Mbps) Ceragon configuration.
>
> And when I go to license it, I ask the coordinator to allocate a 60MHz dual 
> polarity channel license?
>
> Or how exactly does this work?
>
> Thanks for your help peoples!
>
> [cid:image003.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]
> [cid:image004.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Remote offices and Shared Devices

[Erich Kaiser]

pptp tunnels are the easiest.  I have replaced a majority of the random
EOIP tunnels for managing customer external routers with pptp, then it also
does not matter if you are on a DHCP network, such as Comcast, etc...

You can still do your static routing/firewalling over the tunnel.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:37 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> We put all of our stuff on Google Drive. Personal devices are allowed onto
> our Apps domain, but I enforce the Device Policy requirement so I can wipe
> them at any time. :)
>
> Anyone that's off-net can connect to our NOC VPN and get to printers in
> the office, radios on the network, etc. I use the VPN on my phone all the
> time in the field so I don't have to pull out my laptop for simple stuff.
> Hell of a lot easier than trying to do remote desktop on a tiny screen.
>
> On 11/30/2015 2:32 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
>> I know many of you have multiple offices, probably one at the shop and
>> one at home.  How do you link them all together? Do you VPN in at a machine
>> or Router level?  Make the home network an extension of the office network
>> via a tunnel?  Or just do firewall rules to allow the home machines in?  Do
>> you Isolate the rest of your home machines from your 'work' machine?
>>
>> The only things I really need to keep access to are Mapped/shared drives,
>> and Network Printers.  I.E. Home accessing a share on a server at the shop,
>> or Server at the Shop printing to a printer at home.
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100

[Brandon Yuchasz]

How long of a cable are we talking before it causes issues. 5 feet 50 feet 150 
feet?

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 4:15 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100

 

I was waiting to update the listing until we started shipping the Revision i 
syncinjectors and completely flushed out the Rev H injectors.  The 450i doesn't 
seem to like a long cable on a Rev H injector but we've fixed this in revision 
i.

If you're planning on using a gigabit injector with a 450i with anything but a 
short cable,  I'd recommend buying a new one and putting a note in the comments 
on the order for them to include only revision I injectors on your order. 

On Nov 30, 2015 2:55 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

You can.  It will take up to 57v.

 

And once again I'll yell at Forrest to correct that posting.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:

Thanks Josh,

I was not sure if I could just put 48 volts to the unit powering the 450i or 
not. 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] syncinjector for 450i and FSK100

 

http://store.packetflux.com/gigabit-syncinjector-for-24-volt-cambium-radios/

http://store.packetflux.com/syncpipe-basic/

Plus a 24v and a 48v power supply (450i is 48v, fsk is 24v).

 

Yes you can daisy chain from the syncpipe, to the syncinjector and so on




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:

Just to be clear can anyone tell me what version of syncinjector I need to run 
a pmp450i? Is there a version that can run both a 450i and pmp100 AP? If not 
can I daisy chain the GPS sync from the first syncinjector running the 450i to 
the syncinjector running the older pmp100 aps?

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net  

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a mechanical drawings for a tower permit.

[Rory Conaway]

Awesome, thanks.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Woodfield
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a mechanical drawings for a tower permit.


Yes. David Hunt. wifi.engin...@gmail.com he 
does a damn good job for hardly any cost.







John Woodfield, President

Delmarva WiFi Inc.

410-870-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: "Rory Conaway" >
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 9:44pm
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: [AFMUG] Looking for a mechanical drawings for a tower permit.
Anyone have a referral for this?

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

“If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off. 
— Bill Veeck, former owner of the Chicago White Sox

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

[SmarterBroadband]

2 x 80

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

Yes, 11Ghz.

So that would be 80MHz total on the license? 

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

I seem to recall it was 11 GHz, right?  If so, and you have the wideband
license you should try for 80 MHz bandwidth and depending on your capacity
needs, you can go XPIC or other options.

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jon Langeler
[jon-ispli...@michwave.net]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

Yes, ask for dual pol 60MHz. Or you can buy the 'splitter adapter' instead
of the OMT and use two 60MHz channels on same polarity. This is for 6GHz
right?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:
>
> Question about this Ceragon IP20 I have.
>
> If I want the full 1Gbps out of it, according to these charts, I should
use two 30MHz channels per polarity, right?
> That would be for the 2+0 DP (2 x 500Mbps) Ceragon configuration.
>
> And when I go to license it, I ask the coordinator to allocate a 60MHz
dual polarity channel license?
>
> Or how exactly does this work?
>
> Thanks for your help peoples!
>
> [cid:image003.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]
> [cid:image004.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]

[AFMUG] Monday Engineer Funny

[Rory Conaway]

[cid:C8033EA611A70C4985499C899DE44671@gdc4s.com]

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off. 
- Bill Veeck, former owner of the Chicago White Sox

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

[Sterling Jacobson]

This is a single antenna configuration, so I think by 2+0 DP they mean XPIC?

That would mean maybe 60MHz each polarity would get me 1Gbps?
Is that a license in 11GHz, 60MHz wide channels? Or does that mean two 30MHz 
channels each way, then the same on the opposite polarity?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

80 MHz will get you 700 Mbps each way with one carrier, double that with 2 or 
XPIC which the dual core C model would allow.  I think you mentioned frequency 
congestion and that certainly would make XPIC or a 2nd pair that much more 
difficult to get.

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Sterling Jacobson 
[sterl...@avative.net]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 8:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

Yes, 11Ghz.

So that would be 80MHz total on the license?

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

I seem to recall it was 11 GHz, right?  If so, and you have the wideband 
license you should try for 80 MHz bandwidth and depending on your capacity 
needs, you can go XPIC or other options.

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jon Langeler 
[jon-ispli...@michwave.net]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

Yes, ask for dual pol 60MHz. Or you can buy the 'splitter adapter' instead of 
the OMT and use two 60MHz channels on same polarity. This is for 6GHz right?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
>
> Question about this Ceragon IP20 I have.
>
> If I want the full 1Gbps out of it, according to these charts, I should use 
> two 30MHz channels per polarity, right?
> That would be for the 2+0 DP (2 x 500Mbps) Ceragon configuration.
>
> And when I go to license it, I ask the coordinator to allocate a 60MHz dual 
> polarity channel license?
>
> Or how exactly does this work?
>
> Thanks for your help peoples!
>
> [cid:image003.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]
> [cid:image004.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[Chuck McCown]

I ordered a few.  At the very least, if they work out, I can just copy the 
circuit.  It is probably just the same circuit as the ap note for the regulator 
chip.  

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

That’s a nice one.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:40 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

Here's one that's a bit smaller, but probably still too big. who knows if it 
will be around for awhile... it's direct from China, but there's a ton of this 
sort of stuff on ebay and amazon.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-LM2596HV-Buck-Converter-5V-60V-to-1-25V-26V-Power-Module-48V-to-3V-5V-12V-/301216970372?hash=item4621ee3684:g:Y98AAOSwq5lTnr-E



On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:31 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

  What's huge? A Mean Well RSD is going to be rather large. There's also the 
Traco DIN rail mount (TCL series, and that will be over $50/ea), but that is 
also pretty large. What application?


  On 11/30/2015 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

It is huge.  Looking for something that will be around for some time.  
Things like this I fear are surplus/overruns/obsolete EOL products.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:44 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

how about $2.29?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-HRD-Converter-24v-36v-48v-Step-Down-To-12v-3A-Power-Module-Portable-/201239343894?hash=item2edaccb316:m:m9vd1B-jJ6zZr8sE6SAWNYQ




On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Need 48 in, 12 out.

  From: SmarterBroadband 
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:48 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

  How about $11.



  We have used these to power radios off batteries for installers.  They 
are adjustable - we set them 48v out on 16.2v battery packs. 



  
http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZR9PBW



  Adam 



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter



  Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that will do 20 
watts.  

  Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap.  Looking for something in the 
$20 range.  

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[George Skorup]

Can't you buy the needed parts and configure the PCB the way you want 
and do it all yourself? Like with a built-in RJ45 input?


On 11/30/2015 4:43 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

That’s a nice one.
*From:* Mathew Howard 
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 3:40 PM
*To:* af 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter
Here's one that's a bit smaller, but probably still too big. who knows 
if it will be around for awhile... it's direct from China, but there's 
a ton of this sort of stuff on ebay and amazon.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-LM2596HV-Buck-Converter-5V-60V-to-1-25V-26V-Power-Module-48V-to-3V-5V-12V-/301216970372?hash=item4621ee3684:g:Y98AAOSwq5lTnr-E

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:31 PM, George Skorup > wrote:


What's huge? A Mean Well RSD is going to be rather large. There's
also the Traco DIN rail mount (TCL series, and that will be over
$50/ea), but that is also pretty large. What application?

On 11/30/2015 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

It is huge.  Looking for something that will be around for some
time.  Things like this I fear are surplus/overruns/obsolete EOL
products.
*From:* Mathew Howard 
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 2:44 PM
*To:* af 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter
how about $2.29?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-HRD-Converter-24v-36v-48v-Step-Down-To-12v-3A-Power-Module-Portable-/201239343894?hash=item2edaccb316:m:m9vd1B-jJ6zZr8sE6SAWNYQ


On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:

Need 48 in, 12 out.
*From:* SmarterBroadband 
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 1:48 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

How about $11.

We have used these to power radios off batteries for
installers. They are adjustable - we set them 48v out on
16.2v battery packs.


http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZR9PBW

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit
that will do 20 watts.

Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap. Looking for
something in the $20 range.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: PSY is at it again

[Chuck McCown]

Psy rolled...

(some of it seemed to border on pedophilia)

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: PSY is at it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrG4TEcSuRg


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[Chuck McCown]

That’s a nice one.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:40 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

Here's one that's a bit smaller, but probably still too big. who knows if it 
will be around for awhile... it's direct from China, but there's a ton of this 
sort of stuff on ebay and amazon.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-LM2596HV-Buck-Converter-5V-60V-to-1-25V-26V-Power-Module-48V-to-3V-5V-12V-/301216970372?hash=item4621ee3684:g:Y98AAOSwq5lTnr-E



On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:31 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

  What's huge? A Mean Well RSD is going to be rather large. There's also the 
Traco DIN rail mount (TCL series, and that will be over $50/ea), but that is 
also pretty large. What application?


  On 11/30/2015 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

It is huge.  Looking for something that will be around for some time.  
Things like this I fear are surplus/overruns/obsolete EOL products.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:44 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

how about $2.29?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-HRD-Converter-24v-36v-48v-Step-Down-To-12v-3A-Power-Module-Portable-/201239343894?hash=item2edaccb316:m:m9vd1B-jJ6zZr8sE6SAWNYQ




On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Need 48 in, 12 out.

  From: SmarterBroadband 
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:48 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

  How about $11.



  We have used these to power radios off batteries for installers.  They 
are adjustable - we set them 48v out on 16.2v battery packs. 



  
http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZR9PBW



  Adam 



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter



  Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that will do 20 
watts.  

  Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap.  Looking for something in the 
$20 range.  

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[Adam Moffett]

Oh...just because they've done it, doesn't mean it can't be done better.

My complaint with the indoor unit was that there was no way to mount it 
to anything.  They needed some eyes for screws, or keyholes on the back, 
or something along those lines.  The outdoor version wasn't particularly 
rugged for an outdoor device, and still nothing to mount it to.  You 
either dangled it out of the bottom of the device, or zip tie it to the 
mounting pipe.



On 11/30/2015 6:04 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Ubiquiti makes or used to make a device that did that.  The indoor 
version that looked like an elongated coupler, and an outdoor version 
that was a plug on a pigtail with a jack on the other end.  They are 
about $20 for either one.


Part number INS-8023AF

They are converting from 48v 802.3af to 12V passive PoE on the spare 
pairs.  Are you looking at the same application, or something else?



On 11/30/2015 5:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I found a chinese source for $11.  1 inch by 2 inches by .75 inch.
I am making a converter to power 12 volt devices off of 48 vdc poe.
*From:* George Skorup 
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 3:31 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter
What's huge? A Mean Well RSD is going to be rather large. There's 
also the Traco DIN rail mount (TCL series, and that will be over 
$50/ea), but that is also pretty large. What application?


On 11/30/2015 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
It is huge.  Looking for something that will be around for some 
time.  Things like this I fear are surplus/overruns/obsolete EOL 
products.

*From:* Mathew Howard 
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 2:44 PM
*To:* af 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter
how about $2.29?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-HRD-Converter-24v-36v-48v-Step-Down-To-12v-3A-Power-Module-Portable-/201239343894?hash=item2edaccb316:m:m9vd1B-jJ6zZr8sE6SAWNYQ


On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Need 48 in, 12 out.
*From:* SmarterBroadband 
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 1:48 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

How about $11.

We have used these to power radios off batteries for
installers.  They are adjustable - we set them 48v out on 16.2v
battery packs.


http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZR9PBW

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that
will do 20 watts.

Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap. Looking for something
in the $20 range.

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

[Jon Langeler]

Yes, ask for dual pol 60MHz. Or you can buy the 'splitter adapter' instead of 
the OMT and use two 60MHz channels on same polarity. This is for 6GHz right?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> Question about this Ceragon IP20 I have.
> 
> If I want the full 1Gbps out of it, according to these charts, I should use 
> two 30MHz channels per polarity, right?
> That would be for the 2+0 DP (2 x 500Mbps) Ceragon configuration.
> 
> And when I go to license it, I ask the coordinator to allocate a 60MHz dual 
> polarity channel license?
> 
> Or how exactly does this work?
> 
> Thanks for your help peoples!
> 
> [cid:image003.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]
> [cid:image004.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0]

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[Chuck McCown]

I found a chinese source for $11.  1 inch by 2 inches by .75 inch.
I am making a converter to power 12 volt devices off of 48 vdc poe.

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

What's huge? A Mean Well RSD is going to be rather large. There's also the 
Traco DIN rail mount (TCL series, and that will be over $50/ea), but that is 
also pretty large. What application?


On 11/30/2015 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  It is huge.  Looking for something that will be around for some time.  Things 
like this I fear are surplus/overruns/obsolete EOL products.  

  From: Mathew Howard 
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:44 PM
  To: af 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

  how about $2.29?


  
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-HRD-Converter-24v-36v-48v-Step-Down-To-12v-3A-Power-Module-Portable-/201239343894?hash=item2edaccb316:m:m9vd1B-jJ6zZr8sE6SAWNYQ




  On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Need 48 in, 12 out.

From: SmarterBroadband 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

How about $11.



We have used these to power radios off batteries for installers.  They are 
adjustable - we set them 48v out on 16.2v battery packs. 




http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZR9PBW



Adam 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter



Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that will do 20 
watts.  

Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap.  Looking for something in the $20 
range.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 35mm Slide Scanner

[Nate Burke]

That looks to be like a $2000 unit.  It looks really good, but a little 
out of my price range.  I think I'm going to try this one 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O46B7TY  It seems to have gotten 
mostly good reviews.  I know that it's not the highest resolution, but 
these are mostly slides from the 50s and 60's they're kinda grainy as it 
is.




On 11/27/2015 1:46 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
I've got a Nikon Coolscan that my dad used during the transition from 
film to digital.  They do a good job, pretty spendy though.  You 
should be able to do basic stuff like you're asking in jpg format, but 
if you've got the space and a decent scanner, I would keep a copy in 
raw format as well - gives you more flexibility later.


-Jason

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Nate Burke > wrote:


I was out at the 'rents today, and they pulled out a bunch of
their 35mm slides.  Some of them are great family pictures, and
historical to the area where they live.  I'd love to be able to
scan them so they're more easily viewable.  Looking for
recommendations for a good and easy to use Slide scanner that
hopefully won't break the bank.  Also, is there a file format
which is better to use to be able to add notes to the picture. 
Like Date it was taken, and who is in the photo?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 35mm Slide Scanner

[Ken Hohhof]

> mostly slides from the 50s and 60's they're kinda grainy

If these are Kodachrome (50’s) or Kodachrome II (60’s), and have not degraded 
with time, they should not be grainy, in fact that was probably the pinnacle of 
slide film.  Films got faster but generally that meant more grain.  ASA 25 
Kodachrome = good stuff.  Unfortunately needed a commercial lab to process it, 
and I believe the last one shut down quite a few years ago.

When I think back
On all the crap I learned in high school
It’s a wonder
I can think at all
And though my lack of education
Hasn’t hurt me none
I can read the writing on the wall

Kodachrome
They give us those nice bright colors
They give us the greens of summers
Makes you think all the world’s
A sunny day, oh yeah
I got a Nikon camera
I love to a photograph
So mama, don’t take my Kodachrome away

If you took all the girls I knew
When I was single
And brought them all together
For one night
I know they’d never match
My sweet imagination
Everything looks worse
In black and white

Kodachrome
They give us those nice bright colors
They give us the greens of summers
Makes you think all the world’s
A sunny day, oh yeah
I got a Nikon camera
I love to a photograph
So mama, don’t take my Kodachrome away


From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: 35mm Slide Scanner

That looks to be like a $2000 unit.  It looks really good, but a little out of 
my price range.  I think I'm going to try this one 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O46B7TY  It seems to have gotten mostly 
good reviews.  I know that it's not the highest resolution, but these are 
mostly slides from the 50s and 60's they're kinda grainy as it is.  




On 11/27/2015 1:46 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

  I've got a Nikon Coolscan that my dad used during the transition from film to 
digital.  They do a good job, pretty spendy though.  You should be able to do 
basic stuff like you're asking in jpg format, but if you've got the space and a 
decent scanner, I would keep a copy in raw format as well - gives you more 
flexibility later. 

  -Jason

  On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

I was out at the 'rents today, and they pulled out a bunch of their 35mm 
slides.  Some of them are great family pictures, and historical to the area 
where they live.  I'd love to be able to scan them so they're more easily 
viewable.  Looking for recommendations for a good and easy to use Slide scanner 
that hopefully won't break the bank.  Also, is there a file format which is 
better to use to be able to add notes to the picture.  Like Date it was taken, 
and who is in the photo?

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question

[Mike Hammett]

Generally I tell my coordinator what I have and she tells me what's available. 
I don't need to tell her what channel sizes and configurations I require. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Sterling Jacobson"  
To: "af@afmug.com"  
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:12:40 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20 1Gbps License Question 

Question about this Ceragon IP20 I have. 

If I want the full 1Gbps out of it, according to these charts, I should use two 
30MHz channels per polarity, right? 
That would be for the 2+0 DP (2 x 500Mbps) Ceragon configuration. 

And when I go to license it, I ask the coordinator to allocate a 60MHz dual 
polarity channel license? 

Or how exactly does this work? 

Thanks for your help peoples! 

[cid:image003.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0] 
[cid:image004.png@01CEF1AE.8F52B9D0] 

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[George Skorup]

What's huge? A Mean Well RSD is going to be rather large. There's also 
the Traco DIN rail mount (TCL series, and that will be over $50/ea), but 
that is also pretty large. What application?


On 11/30/2015 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
It is huge.  Looking for something that will be around for some time.  
Things like this I fear are surplus/overruns/obsolete EOL products.

*From:* Mathew Howard 
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 2:44 PM
*To:* af 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter
how about $2.29?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-HRD-Converter-24v-36v-48v-Step-Down-To-12v-3A-Power-Module-Portable-/201239343894?hash=item2edaccb316:m:m9vd1B-jJ6zZr8sE6SAWNYQ


On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote:


Need 48 in, 12 out.
*From:* SmarterBroadband 
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 1:48 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

How about $11.

We have used these to power radios off batteries for installers. 
They are adjustable - we set them 48v out on 16.2v battery packs.



http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZR9PBW

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that
will do 20 watts.

Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap. Looking for something in
the $20 range.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Remote offices and Shared Devices

[George Skorup]

We put all of our stuff on Google Drive. Personal devices are allowed 
onto our Apps domain, but I enforce the Device Policy requirement so I 
can wipe them at any time. :)


Anyone that's off-net can connect to our NOC VPN and get to printers in 
the office, radios on the network, etc. I use the VPN on my phone all 
the time in the field so I don't have to pull out my laptop for simple 
stuff. Hell of a lot easier than trying to do remote desktop on a tiny 
screen.


On 11/30/2015 2:32 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
I know many of you have multiple offices, probably one at the shop and 
one at home.  How do you link them all together? Do you VPN in at a 
machine or Router level?  Make the home network an extension of the 
office network via a tunnel?  Or just do firewall rules to allow the 
home machines in?  Do you Isolate the rest of your home machines from 
your 'work' machine?


The only things I really need to keep access to are Mapped/shared 
drives, and Network Printers.  I.E. Home accessing a share on a server 
at the shop, or Server at the Shop printing to a printer at home.

Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

[Adam Moffett]

Ubiquiti makes or used to make a device that did that.  The indoor 
version that looked like an elongated coupler, and an outdoor version 
that was a plug on a pigtail with a jack on the other end. They are 
about $20 for either one.


Part number INS-8023AF

They are converting from 48v 802.3af to 12V passive PoE on the spare 
pairs.  Are you looking at the same application, or something else?



On 11/30/2015 5:42 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I found a chinese source for $11.  1 inch by 2 inches by .75 inch.
I am making a converter to power 12 volt devices off of 48 vdc poe.
*From:* George Skorup 
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 3:31 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter
What's huge? A Mean Well RSD is going to be rather large. There's also 
the Traco DIN rail mount (TCL series, and that will be over $50/ea), 
but that is also pretty large. What application?


On 11/30/2015 4:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
It is huge.  Looking for something that will be around for some 
time.  Things like this I fear are surplus/overruns/obsolete EOL 
products.

*From:* Mathew Howard 
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 2:44 PM
*To:* af 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter
how about $2.29?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-HRD-Converter-24v-36v-48v-Step-Down-To-12v-3A-Power-Module-Portable-/201239343894?hash=item2edaccb316:m:m9vd1B-jJ6zZr8sE6SAWNYQ


On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Need 48 in, 12 out.
*From:* SmarterBroadband 
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 1:48 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

How about $11.

We have used these to power radios off batteries for installers.
They are adjustable - we set them 48v out on 16.2v battery packs.


http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Converter-Transformer-Regulator-Inverter/dp/B00BZR9PBW

Adam

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2015 12:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] DC-DC Converter

Looking for the smallest cheapest 12 volt to 48 volt unit that
will do 20 watts.

Digi-Key has some but they are not cheap.  Looking for something
in the $20 range.