Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Josh Corson]

Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an apartment
complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if Realchoice
has gotten back to anyone.

On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> You are.
>
> *From:* Erich Kaiser
> 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
> Chuck,
>
> Put me on the list
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> er...@northcentraltower.com
> 
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown  > wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with the
>> WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.
>> They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something
>> direct.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>> " still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this,
>> I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding
>> with..
>>
>> Ducking under my phone
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown > > wrote:
>>
>>> Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from
>>> Realchoice before I can proceed.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


-- 

*Josh Corson*
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com
o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Josh Corson]

We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do
you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?

On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
> So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  Turns
> out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling and
> VPN methods.
>
> If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.
>
> *From:* Josh Corson
> 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
> Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an apartment
> complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if Realchoice
> has gotten back to anyone.
>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown  > wrote:
>
>> You are.
>>
>> *From:* Erich Kaiser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>> Put me on the list
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
>> Office: 630-621-4804
>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown <
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with the
>>> WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.
>>> They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something
>>> direct.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>
>>> " still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this,
>>> I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding
>>> with..
>>>
>>> Ducking under my phone
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown <
>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>>
 Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from
 Realchoice before I can proceed.

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> *Josh Corson*
> Operations Manager
> BlueBit Networks
> bluebitnetworks.com
> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073
>
>


-- 

*Josh Corson*
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com
o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Chuck McCown]

If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per stream.
If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it is about 
2 gbps full time.  

From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

How much transport is required and where in utah?

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means no.  

  From: Josh Corson 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do you 
think we will have the option to get this prior to then?

  On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  Turns 
out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling and VPN 
methods. 

If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.   

From: Josh Corson 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an apartment 
complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if Realchoice has 
gotten back to anyone. 


On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  You are.

  From: Erich Kaiser 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  Chuck, 

  Put me on the list

  Thanks!


  Erich Kaiser 
  North Central Tower
  javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
  Office: 630-621-4804
  Cell: 630-777-9291



  On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with the 
WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.  
They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something 
direct.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

" still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this, 
I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding 
with..

Ducking under my phone

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from 
Realchoice before I can proceed.  




-- 

Josh Corson
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com

o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073



  -- 

  Josh Corson
  Operations Manager
  BlueBit Networks
  bluebitnetworks.com

  o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[George Skorup]

How about we all rebuild the Long-Lines network? :)

On 1/7/2016 5:23 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably 
means no.

*From:* Josh Corson 
*Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 
1st...do you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?


On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown > wrote:


Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
So far you will have to be able to get transport to their
headend.  Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy
with various tunneling and VPN methods.
If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.
*From:* Josh Corson

*Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
*To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an
apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was
curious if Realchoice has gotten back to anyone.

On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown
 wrote:

You are.
*From:* Erich Kaiser
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
*To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
Chuck,
Put me on the list
Thanks!
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown
 wrote:

Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to
mediate with the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I
am used to.
They have all your email addresses. Hopefully you will get
something direct.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
" still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this,
I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before
proceeding with..
Ducking under my phone
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown
 wrote:

Have not forgot about everyone. Still awaiting a
document from Realchoice before I can proceed.



-- 
*Josh Corson*

Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com 
o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073



--
*Josh Corson*
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com 
o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Josh Corson]

So even in the next 5 or so months it still won't be accessible unless we
had a  2 gig transport to Utah you think?

On Thursday, January 7, 2016, George Skorup  wrote:

> How about we all rebuild the Long-Lines network? :)
>
> On 1/7/2016 5:23 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means
> no.
>
> *From:* Josh Corson
> 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
> We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do
> you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?
>
> On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown <
> ch...@wbmfg.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
>> So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  Turns
>> out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling and
>> VPN methods.
>>
>> If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Corson
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>> Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an
>> apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if
>> Realchoice has gotten back to anyone.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown <
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>
>>> You are.
>>>
>>> *From:* Erich Kaiser
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Put me on the list
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown <
>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with the
 WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.
 They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something
 direct.

 *From:* Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

 " still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this,
 I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding
 with..

 Ducking under my phone

 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown <
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:

> Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from
> Realchoice before I can proceed.
>


>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Josh Corson*
>> Operations Manager
>> BlueBit Networks
>> bluebitnetworks.com
>> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Josh Corson*
> Operations Manager
> BlueBit Networks
> bluebitnetworks.com
> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073
>
>
>
>

-- 

*Josh Corson*
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com
o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Chris Fabien]

Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks
already?  We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently,
wonder if it would be easy to get to from there.
On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per stream.
> If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it is
> about 2 gbps full time.
>
> *From:* Chris Fabien 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
> How much transport is required and where in utah?
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means
>> no.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Corson 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>> We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do
>> you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?
>>
>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
>>> So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.
>>> Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various
>>> tunneling and VPN methods.
>>>
>>> If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Corson
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>
>>> Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an
>>> apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if
>>> Realchoice has gotten back to anyone.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown <
>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>>
 You are.

 *From:* Erich Kaiser
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
 *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

 Chuck,

 Put me on the list

 Thanks!


 Erich Kaiser
 North Central Tower
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
 Office: 630-621-4804
 Cell: 630-777-9291


 On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown <
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:

> Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with
> the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.
> They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something
> direct.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
> " still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this,
> I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding
> with..
>
> Ducking under my phone
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown <
> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>
>> Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from
>> Realchoice before I can proceed.
>>
>
>


>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *Josh Corson*
>>> Operations Manager
>>> BlueBit Networks
>>> bluebitnetworks.com
>>> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Josh Corson*
>> Operations Manager
>> BlueBit Networks
>> bluebitnetworks.com
>> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Chuck McCown]

Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means no.  

From: Josh Corson 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do you 
think we will have the option to get this prior to then?

On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
  So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  Turns out 
that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling and VPN 
methods. 

  If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.   

  From: Josh Corson 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an apartment 
complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if Realchoice has 
gotten back to anyone. 

  On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

You are.

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Chuck, 

Put me on the list

Thanks!


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291



On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with the 
WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.  
  They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something 
direct.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  " still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this, 
  I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding 
with..

  Ducking under my phone

  Jaime Solorza 
  Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390

  On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from 
Realchoice before I can proceed.  




  -- 

  Josh Corson
  Operations Manager
  BlueBit Networks
  bluebitnetworks.com

  o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073



-- 

Josh Corson
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com

o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Chuck McCown]

I am working with content providers to see why they will not allow a secured 
connection.  If they continue to hold fast that you have to have control over 
the whole circuit, then yes, that is where we will be.  

From: Josh Corson 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

So even in the next 5 or so months it still won't be accessible unless we had a 
 2 gig transport to Utah you think?

On Thursday, January 7, 2016, George Skorup  wrote:

  How about we all rebuild the Long-Lines network? :)


  On 1/7/2016 5:23 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means no. 
 

From: Josh Corson 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do 
you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?

On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
  So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  Turns 
out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling and VPN 
methods. 

  If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.   

  From: Josh Corson 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an 
apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if 
Realchoice has gotten back to anyone. 

  On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

You are.

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Chuck, 

Put me on the list

Thanks!


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291



On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with 
the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.  
  They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something 
direct.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  " still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this, 
  I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding 
with..

  Ducking under my phone

  Jaime Solorza 
  Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390

  On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from 
Realchoice before I can proceed.  




  -- 

  Josh Corson
  Operations Manager
  BlueBit Networks
  bluebitnetworks.com

  o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073



-- 

Josh Corson
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com

o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073





-- 

Josh Corson
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com

o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Chuck McCown]

It can be easily.  It can touch a fairly large content delivery network, but 
that cuts into profit.  

From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks already?  
We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently, wonder if it would 
be easy to get to from there.

On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per stream.
  If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it is 
about 2 gbps full time.  

  From: Chris Fabien 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  How much transport is required and where in utah?

  On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means no. 
 

From: Josh Corson 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do 
you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?

On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
  So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  Turns 
out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling and VPN 
methods. 

  If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.   

  From: Josh Corson 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an 
apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if 
Realchoice has gotten back to anyone. 


  On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

You are.

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Chuck, 

Put me on the list

Thanks!


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291



On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with 
the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.  
  They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something 
direct.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  " still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this, 
  I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding 
with..

  Ducking under my phone

  Jaime Solorza 
  Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390

  On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from 
Realchoice before I can proceed.  




  -- 

  Josh Corson
  Operations Manager
  BlueBit Networks
  bluebitnetworks.com

  o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073



-- 

Josh Corson
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com

o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

[AFMUG] MatrixStream IPTV

[Josh Corson]

Anyone ever use them? I've looked into this in the past but wasn't sure if
they provided the content or if we had to do all the legwork and then use
their pretty little boxes..


https://www.matrixstream.com/


-- 

*Josh Corson*
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com
o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Chuck McCown]

Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  Turns out 
that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling and VPN 
methods. 

If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.   

From: Josh Corson 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an apartment 
complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if Realchoice has 
gotten back to anyone. 

On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  You are.

  From: Erich Kaiser 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  Chuck, 

  Put me on the list

  Thanks!


  Erich Kaiser 
  North Central Tower
  javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
  Office: 630-621-4804
  Cell: 630-777-9291



  On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with the 
WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.  
They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something 
direct.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

" still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this, 
I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding 
with..

Ducking under my phone

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from 
Realchoice before I can proceed.  




-- 

Josh Corson
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com

o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Chris Fabien]

How much transport is required and where in utah?

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means
> no.
>
> *From:* Josh Corson 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
> We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do
> you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?
>
> On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
>> So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  Turns
>> out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling and
>> VPN methods.
>>
>> If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Corson
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>> Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an
>> apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if
>> Realchoice has gotten back to anyone.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown <
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>
>>> You are.
>>>
>>> *From:* Erich Kaiser
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Put me on the list
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown <
>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with the
 WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.
 They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something
 direct.

 *From:* Jaime Solorza
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

 " still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this,
 I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding
 with..

 Ducking under my phone

 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown <
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:

> Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from
> Realchoice before I can proceed.
>


>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Josh Corson*
>> Operations Manager
>> BlueBit Networks
>> bluebitnetworks.com
>> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> *Josh Corson*
> Operations Manager
> BlueBit Networks
> bluebitnetworks.com
> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Sitemonitor question

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

It depends.   It really was designed for inside an enclosure or small
building.   I was going to spend some time characterizing this distance
today,  but ran out of time.

I'm guessing you'd be ok in a low power rf environment for dozens of feet.
On Jan 6, 2016 3:03 PM, "Craig Baird"  wrote:

> Anyone know how long the cable can be between a Sitemonitor base unit and
> an expansion module?
>
> Craig
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cell Phones

[Patrick Leary]

My phone might be more rugged than most with a case. I can submerge it, drop 
it, and even drive over it with no case. …and I have the micro SD slot. I 
tossed it across our terrazzo floor just to prove the point to my kids. I also 
spilled a huge cup of coffee on it in a passenger seat of a rented car with 
bucket seats, so the phone sat in the coffee like it was in bath.

Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 7:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cell Phones

I'd never have a smart phone without an extremely rugged case.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Patrick Leary" 
>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 11:25:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cell Phones
That’d be great. I’m likely just not aware of it. It certainly did not come 
with it.

I do miss the Kevlar back. I don’t use cases; ugly and bulky. But, the new 
model is fairly non-slip and I can take a corner at normal sped and not have it 
fly off my center console.

Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 12:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cell Phones

Hmm, the Spec says wireless charging...

"Supports PMA and Qi wireless charging (wireless charger sold separately)"

On 1/6/2016 11:08 AM, Patrick Leary wrote:
Yes, a special adapter. Only Verizon sells this model phone; it is unique to 
them. Bad part of that is the bloatware, but those can be hacked out of the 
phone. No wireless charging on this model.
�
Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735
�
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 12:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cell Phones
�
Does it do wireless charging?� What is 'Turbo charge'?� A special charger? 
or just regular USB Charging with a high output supply?
On 1/6/2016 11:05 AM, Patrick Leary wrote:
..and the battery is the best I�ve ever had. I can pound on it all day with 
btooth, Wi-Fi and cellular downloading and easily make it through a day. The 
turbo charging gives a full charge in about 30 minutes too.
�
Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735
�
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 12:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cell Phones
�
I have it. Loved the T1 too, but mine had a MIC issue. The T2 is not especially 
attractive, but it�s really well put together. It is nearly shatter-proof. My 
nephew works for Verizon. When his area manager introduced the phone to the 
assembled store teams, he threw it down the hallway and announced, 
�Introducing the Droid Turbo 2!� Subsequently, he allowed my nephew to 
drive over it with no breaking at all.
�
It also permits up 2 terabyte external storage (so it claims), but the only 
common micro SD card I�ve found is 64g. Lots of other subtle cool features, 
from chopping twice to turn on and off the LED as a flashlight, to twisting 
twice to open the camera. I love the remote sensing too, as it can silence 
calls, let me check the time, etc. without touching the phone.
�
Another cool feature is that is �knows� when you are looking at it, so the 
screen does not time out if you are simply reading a page. As long as it 
sensing a face with so many inches, the screen stays active.
�
Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735
�
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 11:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cell Phones
�
The Turbo2 looks intriguing.
On 1/6/2016 10:48 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Droid Turbo meets those.  I primarily want battery life and that thing 
delivers.  Never had cold effect the speaker at all, but it definitely drops 
the battery like a brick.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 6, 2016 11:42 AM, "Nate Burke" 

[AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

any of you powercode users know if there is a command to force this? Im
working on our new rates and packages with discounts and 12 month prepays
I need to force the test account to run a billing cycle to see what it
generates for a bill, but i dont want it affecting other accounts billing


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Looking to swap DNS VMs

[Graham McIntire]

I moved my DNS to cloudflare a few months ago and it's been great (on the
free plan too.) I wrote a little ruby script to add all of the forwards for
my reverse DNS via their API. Too bad they don't support reverse zones, I
still have to run bind to handle all those.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:43 AM, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:

> Anybody use CloudFlare on their free package for one domain with their
> worldwide Anycast DNS?
>
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2016, at 11:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>
> ummm...  If you run your own authoritative DNS, somehow pushing your
> master-to-slave zone transfers *through github* is not something I would
> recommend. You want to be reliant on github being free, operational and
> reachable? I realize the odds are low that github would be down, but they
> are non zero.
>
> If you really want to you can have authoritative ns1 through ns4 on four
> different continents hosted by four different VPS/VM hosting providers. The
> whole idea of running your own DNS is so that you serve as the root
> authority for forward resolution of your hostnames, MX, etc, only reliant
> upon your domain registrar's glue records and the root nameservers being up
> and reachable.
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:51 PM, Ryan Ray  wrote:
>
>> Could you sync bind with Route53?
>>
>> https://www.netguru.co/blog/ci-your-dns-setup
>>
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>>
>> geographic diversity and uplink diversity is a good thing for your
>> non-recursive authoritative nameservers...  my NS1, NS2 and NS3 (not
>> recursive!) are in three different cities.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe, I’m not sure what the advantage is we are offering each other?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:01 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Looking to swap DNS VMs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anybody want to host a simple DNS VM in exchange for the same?  Just a
>>> little easier than hosting something like that on AWS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>>
>>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>>
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>>
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>>
>>> 772-564-6800 office
>>>
>>> 772-473-0352 cell
>>>
>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>>
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS

[Dennis Burgess]

Typically the pppoe server is at the tower, so it has a local pool to hand out, 
if the customer needs  a static, that would be assigned via PPPOE as well as a 
framed route if they need a specific block.   For MT there are a number of 
radius attributes, but the simplest is address-group, If all pppoe servers are 
configured the same, giving a address group lobs them into anything such as 
filters, firewall, redirection etc.  the last though is ip pool, so that you 
can give them a redirected pool and not use a public IP if they are not auth.  
Big thing, they should always auth, just get redirected if not valid. :) 


Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] RADIUS

For those of you using RADIUS to manage your customers (whether via PPPoE, or 
something else), how are you doing it? Are you using pools, static addresses or 
a mixture? Are you using groups to control access/redirect to delinquency pages 
etc or other methods? What kind of attributes are you using? What is/are your 
NAS? I'm guessing mostly Mikrotik in this group!

I'm working on a bunch of RADIUS stuff right now, and trying to build it to be 
as flexible as possible.. any input any of you can give on how you use RADIUS 
on your network would be very much appreciated!

--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS

[Simon Westlake]

You think so? You're saying you think that a user that enters an invalid 
username and password should still get access to the network? I guess if 
you're giving the credentials to end users, it might make sense, so it's 
clear to them that they entered it incorrectly. If you're putting it 
into your radios exclusively though, it seems like you might not want to 
give a user any access at all if they're just trying random passwords.


On 1/7/2016 7:05 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

Typically the pppoe server is at the tower, so it has a local pool to hand out, 
if the customer needs  a static, that would be assigned via PPPOE as well as a 
framed route if they need a specific block.   For MT there are a number of 
radius attributes, but the simplest is address-group, If all pppoe servers are 
configured the same, giving a address group lobs them into anything such as 
filters, firewall, redirection etc.  the last though is ip pool, so that you 
can give them a redirected pool and not use a public IP if they are not auth.  
Big thing, they should always auth, just get redirected if not valid. :)


Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] RADIUS

For those of you using RADIUS to manage your customers (whether via PPPoE, or 
something else), how are you doing it? Are you using pools, static addresses or 
a mixture? Are you using groups to control access/redirect to delinquency pages 
etc or other methods? What kind of attributes are you using? What is/are your 
NAS? I'm guessing mostly Mikrotik in this group!

I'm working on a bunch of RADIUS stuff right now, and trying to build it to be 
as flexible as possible.. any input any of you can give on how you use RADIUS 
on your network would be very much appreciated!

--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software



--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS

[Ken Hohhof]

Dennis, can you expand on your last sentence?

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Burgess

Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS

Typically the pppoe server is at the tower, so it has a local pool to hand 
out, if the customer needs  a static, that would be assigned via PPPOE as 
well as a framed route if they need a specific block.   For MT there are a 
number of radius attributes, but the simplest is address-group, If all pppoe 
servers are configured the same, giving a address group lobs them into 
anything such as filters, firewall, redirection etc.  the last though is ip 
pool, so that you can give them a redirected pool and not use a public IP if 
they are not auth.  Big thing, they should always auth, just get redirected 
if not valid. :)



Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] RADIUS

For those of you using RADIUS to manage your customers (whether via PPPoE, 
or something else), how are you doing it? Are you using pools, static 
addresses or a mixture? Are you using groups to control access/redirect to 
delinquency pages etc or other methods? What kind of attributes are you 
using? What is/are your NAS? I'm guessing mostly Mikrotik in this group!


I'm working on a bunch of RADIUS stuff right now, and trying to build it to 
be as flexible as possible.. any input any of you can give on how you use 
RADIUS on your network would be very much appreciated!


--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software

[AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

[Wireless Administrator]

Does anyone have experience trying to use the following antenna with Cambium
access points?

 

Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

 

Would it work with either a pair of PMP100 AP's to provide v/h coverage or
with the new 450 gear in a V/H implementation?

 

Thanks,

Steve

Re: [AFMUG] Looking to buy 10-15 PMP320 - 3630SM

[Wireless Administrator]

Paul,

Thanks for following up on me.  We got a good deal on some earlier today.

 

Steve B.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 8:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking to buy 10-15 PMP320 - 3630SM

 

Steve,

 

I have these in stock.

 

Paul McCall

PDMNet

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Wireless Administrator
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Looking to buy 10-15 PMP320 - 3630SM

 

Please hit me off-list if you have any for sale.

 

Thanks,

Steve B.

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Chuck McCown]

I don’t think that the encrypted IP boxes are kosher with the content 
providers.  I would be jumping for joy if that would pass muster.  I think I am 
going to have to approach the problem head on.  If I can convince them either 
in mass or one by one that their content is safe I think we can make it work.

Consider two situations:
1)Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your headend like riding on 
it.  TV downlink is on a VLAN
2)Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your internet backbone on 
it.  TV downlink is on a VPN.

First is kosher second is forbidden.   Go figure.  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

We are going through the same issue with another company right now. They 
require encrypted IP "transport boxes" end to end over networks we don't 
directly own (transport). It's insane.

On Jan 7, 2016 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  It can be easily.  It can touch a fairly large content delivery network, but 
that cuts into profit.  

  From: Chris Fabien 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:44 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks already? 
 We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently, wonder if it 
would be easy to get to from there.

  On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per stream.
If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it is 
about 2 gbps full time.  

From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

How much transport is required and where in utah?

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means 
no.  

  From: Josh Corson 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do 
you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?

  On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  
Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling 
and VPN methods. 

If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.   

From: Josh Corson 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an 
apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if 
Realchoice has gotten back to anyone. 


On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  You are.

  From: Erich Kaiser 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  Chuck, 

  Put me on the list

  Thanks!


  Erich Kaiser 
  North Central Tower
  javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
  Office: 630-621-4804
  Cell: 630-777-9291



  On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with 
the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.  
They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get 
something direct.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

" still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this, 
I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding 
with..

Ducking under my phone

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from 
Realchoice before I can proceed.  




-- 

Josh Corson
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com

o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073



  -- 

  Josh Corson
  Operations Manager
  BlueBit Networks
  bluebitnetworks.com

  o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Josh Reynolds]

So, both the content providers we have been talking with (so we have all of
our channel listing) will give us a handoff at 1102 Grand via HE directly
into our router, but from there they are requiring a certain Cisco box
basically running a VPN between there, over our leased fiber, into our NOC.
It's beyond stupid.

They are technological neophytes.
On Jan 7, 2016 8:09 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> I don’t think that the encrypted IP boxes are kosher with the content
> providers.  I would be jumping for joy if that would pass muster.  I think
> I am going to have to approach the problem head on.  If I can convince them
> either in mass or one by one that their content is safe I think we can make
> it work.
>
> Consider two situations:
> 1)Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your headend like
> riding on it.  TV downlink is on a VLAN
> 2)Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your internet backbone
> on it.  TV downlink is on a VPN.
>
> First is kosher second is forbidden.   Go figure.
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:55 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
>
> We are going through the same issue with another company right now. They
> require encrypted IP "transport boxes" end to end over networks we don't
> directly own (transport). It's insane.
> On Jan 7, 2016 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> It can be easily.  It can touch a fairly large content delivery network,
>> but that cuts into profit.
>>
>> *From:* Chris Fabien 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:44 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>> Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks
>> already?  We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently,
>> wonder if it would be easy to get to from there.
>> On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>
>>> If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per stream.
>>> If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it is
>>> about 2 gbps full time.
>>>
>>> *From:* Chris Fabien 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>
>>> How much transport is required and where in utah?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means
 no.

 *From:* Josh Corson 
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

 We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June
 1st...do you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?

 On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
> So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.
> Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various
> tunneling and VPN methods.
>
> If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.
>
> *From:* Josh Corson
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
> Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an
> apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if
> Realchoice has gotten back to anyone.
>
> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown <
> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>
>> You are.
>>
>> *From:* Erich Kaiser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>> Put me on the list
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Erich Kaiser
>> North Central Tower
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
>> Office: 630-621-4804
>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown <
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with
>>> the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.
>>> They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get
>>> something direct.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>
>>> " still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this,
>>> I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding
>>> with..
>>>
>>> Ducking under my phone
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Josh Reynolds]

Yeah, it's just a low end router that runs a VPN tunnel that they have
access to.
On Jan 7, 2016 8:49 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> Well, that is better than nothing.  Do they have specs on the magic box?
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:12 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
>
> So, both the content providers we have been talking with (so we have all
> of our channel listing) will give us a handoff at 1102 Grand via HE
> directly into our router, but from there they are requiring a certain Cisco
> box basically running a VPN between there, over our leased fiber, into our
> NOC. It's beyond stupid.
>
> They are technological neophytes.
> On Jan 7, 2016 8:09 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> I don’t think that the encrypted IP boxes are kosher with the content
>> providers.  I would be jumping for joy if that would pass muster.  I think
>> I am going to have to approach the problem head on.  If I can convince them
>> either in mass or one by one that their content is safe I think we can make
>> it work.
>>
>> Consider two situations:
>> 1)Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your headend like
>> riding on it.  TV downlink is on a VLAN
>> 2)Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your internet backbone
>> on it.  TV downlink is on a VPN.
>>
>> First is kosher second is forbidden.   Go figure.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Reynolds 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:55 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>> We are going through the same issue with another company right now. They
>> require encrypted IP "transport boxes" end to end over networks we don't
>> directly own (transport). It's insane.
>> On Jan 7, 2016 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>
>>> It can be easily.  It can touch a fairly large content delivery network,
>>> but that cuts into profit.
>>>
>>> *From:* Chris Fabien 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:44 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>
>>>
>>> Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks
>>> already?  We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently,
>>> wonder if it would be easy to get to from there.
>>> On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>>
 If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per
 stream.
 If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it
 is about 2 gbps full time.

 *From:* Chris Fabien 
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

 How much transport is required and where in utah?

 On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably
> means no.
>
> *From:* Josh Corson 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
> We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June
> 1st...do you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?
>
> On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
>> So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.
>> Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various
>> tunneling and VPN methods.
>>
>> If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Corson
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>> Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an
>> apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if
>> Realchoice has gotten back to anyone.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown <
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>
>>> You are.
>>>
>>> *From:* Erich Kaiser
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Put me on the list
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> Erich Kaiser
>>> North Central Tower
>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
>>> Office: 630-621-4804
>>> Cell: 630-777-9291
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown <
>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with
 the WISPs but they don’t 

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Chuck McCown]

If you want to take this off list, that is  fine.
I am keenly interested in which content providers are OK with a VPN tunnel.  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Yeah, it's just a low end router that runs a VPN tunnel that they have access 
to.

On Jan 7, 2016 8:49 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  Well, that is better than nothing.  Do they have specs on the magic box?

  From: Josh Reynolds 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:12 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  So, both the content providers we have been talking with (so we have all of 
our channel listing) will give us a handoff at 1102 Grand via HE directly into 
our router, but from there they are requiring a certain Cisco box basically 
running a VPN between there, over our leased fiber, into our NOC. It's beyond 
stupid.

  They are technological neophytes.

  On Jan 7, 2016 8:09 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

I don’t think that the encrypted IP boxes are kosher with the content 
providers.  I would be jumping for joy if that would pass muster.  I think I am 
going to have to approach the problem head on.  If I can convince them either 
in mass or one by one that their content is safe I think we can make it work.

Consider two situations:
1)Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your headend like riding 
on it.  TV downlink is on a VLAN
2)Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your internet backbone 
on it.  TV downlink is on a VPN.

First is kosher second is forbidden.   Go figure.  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

We are going through the same issue with another company right now. They 
require encrypted IP "transport boxes" end to end over networks we don't 
directly own (transport). It's insane.

On Jan 7, 2016 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  It can be easily.  It can touch a fairly large content delivery network, 
but that cuts into profit.  

  From: Chris Fabien 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:44 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks 
already?  We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently, wonder 
if it would be easy to get to from there.

  On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per 
stream.
If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it 
is about 2 gbps full time.  

From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

How much transport is required and where in utah?

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably 
means no.  

  From: Josh Corson 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 
1st...do you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?

  On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  
Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling 
and VPN methods. 

If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.   

From: Josh Corson 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an 
apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if 
Realchoice has gotten back to anyone. 


On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  You are.

  From: Erich Kaiser 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  Chuck, 

  Put me on the list

  Thanks!


  Erich Kaiser 
  North Central Tower
  javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
  Office: 630-621-4804
  Cell: 630-777-9291



  On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

Yeah, I just threw it in 

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Mike Hammett]

Are they doing anything special or just wholesale IPTV? There's already at 
least one network doing wholesale IPTV in Cermak already. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


- Original Message -

From: "Chris Fabien"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 6:44:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV 


Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks already? 
We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently, wonder if it would 
be easy to get to from there. 
On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per stream. 
If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it is about 
2 gbps full time. 




From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV 


How much transport is required and where in utah? 


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means no. 




From: Josh Corson 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV 

We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do you 
think we will have the option to get this prior to then? 

On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






Right now they are in the midst of a headend move. 
So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend. Turns out 
that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling and VPN 
methods. 

If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed. 




From: Josh Corson 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM 
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV 

Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an apartment 
complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if Realchoice has 
gotten back to anyone. 



On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown < 
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com'); > wrote: 






You are. 




From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM 
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV 


Chuck, 

Put me on the list 

Thanks! 











Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower 
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com'); 
Office: 630-621-4804 
Cell: 630-777-9291 



On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown < 
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com'); > wrote: 






Yeah, I just threw it in their laps. The wanted me to mediate with the WISPs 
but they don’t move at the pace I am used to. 
They have all your email addresses. Hopefully you will get something direct. 




From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM 
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV 


" still awaiting? " hum ,,,try this, 
I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding with.. 

Ducking under my phone 




Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect 
915-861-1390 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown < 
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com'); > wrote: 






Have not forgot about everyone. Still awaiting a document from Realchoice 
before I can proceed. 









-- 





Josh Corson 
Operations Manager 
BlueBit Networks 
bluebitnetworks.com 

o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073 






-- 





Josh Corson 
Operations Manager 
BlueBit Networks 
bluebitnetworks.com 

o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073 

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Chuck McCown]

Well, that is better than nothing.  Do they have specs on the magic box?

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

So, both the content providers we have been talking with (so we have all of our 
channel listing) will give us a handoff at 1102 Grand via HE directly into our 
router, but from there they are requiring a certain Cisco box basically running 
a VPN between there, over our leased fiber, into our NOC. It's beyond stupid.

They are technological neophytes.

On Jan 7, 2016 8:09 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  I don’t think that the encrypted IP boxes are kosher with the content 
providers.  I would be jumping for joy if that would pass muster.  I think I am 
going to have to approach the problem head on.  If I can convince them either 
in mass or one by one that their content is safe I think we can make it work.

  Consider two situations:
  1)Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your headend like riding 
on it.  TV downlink is on a VLAN
  2)Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your internet backbone on 
it.  TV downlink is on a VPN.

  First is kosher second is forbidden.   Go figure.  

  From: Josh Reynolds 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:55 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  We are going through the same issue with another company right now. They 
require encrypted IP "transport boxes" end to end over networks we don't 
directly own (transport). It's insane.

  On Jan 7, 2016 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

It can be easily.  It can touch a fairly large content delivery network, 
but that cuts into profit.  

From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks 
already?  We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently, wonder 
if it would be easy to get to from there.

On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per stream.
  If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it is 
about 2 gbps full time.  

  From: Chris Fabien 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  How much transport is required and where in utah?

  On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means 
no.  

From: Josh Corson 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 
1st...do you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?

On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
  So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  
Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling 
and VPN methods. 

  If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.   

  From: Josh Corson 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an 
apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if 
Realchoice has gotten back to anyone. 


  On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

You are.

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Chuck, 

Put me on the list

Thanks!


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291



On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate 
with the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.  
  They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get 
something direct.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  " still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this, 
  I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before 
proceeding with..

  

Re: [AFMUG] MatrixStream IPTV

[Chuck McCown]

No but I have a Realchoice you can see.  

From: D. Ryan Spott 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MatrixStream IPTV

Not realchoice. 

MatrixStream. Do you have a MatrixStream IPTV system working that I can see?

ryan



On 1/7/16 6:07 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Oh, I will gladly take your $5K...
  Realchoice really does work and it is the solution.  Transport is an issue.
  And I am leaning on them to add a feature.  

  From: D. Ryan Spott 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:51 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MatrixStream IPTV

  I offered $5000 to them to show me ANYONE with a working system that I could 
look at ANYWHERE or just talk to. NOTHING.

  Aaron? STILL contacts me over 5 years after I originally inquired on this 
system/device.

  I stopped by 2 of their offices in San Francisco about 2 years ago. One was a 
Regus building and the other was a cheap tilt-up building. 

  The Regus reception said there was no one of that company in her records. She 
may have been trained to say that.

  The tilt up building in S. San Francisco had a few people in it that tried 
selling me odd LED keychains and other Chinese 'new to market' items. 

  One of the folks in the back carried out a matrixstream device covered in 
dust. They did not know what it was for or what it did. We plugged it into the 
TV with no response. We opened the device. It was pretty much a plastic shell.

  Not impressed. RUN.

  And yes, you have to negotiate all your media / retransmit contracts.

  ryan


  On 1/7/16 3:31 PM, Josh Corson wrote:

Anyone ever use them? I've looked into this in the past but wasn't sure if 
they provided the content or if we had to do all the legwork and then use their 
pretty little boxes.. 


https://www.matrixstream.com/



-- 

Josh Corson
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com

o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073





-- 
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047


-- 
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047

Re: [AFMUG] MatrixStream IPTV

[Chuck McCown]

Oh, I will gladly take your $5K...
Realchoice really does work and it is the solution.  Transport is an issue.
And I am leaning on them to add a feature.  

From: D. Ryan Spott 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MatrixStream IPTV

I offered $5000 to them to show me ANYONE with a working system that I could 
look at ANYWHERE or just talk to. NOTHING.

Aaron? STILL contacts me over 5 years after I originally inquired on this 
system/device.

I stopped by 2 of their offices in San Francisco about 2 years ago. One was a 
Regus building and the other was a cheap tilt-up building. 

The Regus reception said there was no one of that company in her records. She 
may have been trained to say that.

The tilt up building in S. San Francisco had a few people in it that tried 
selling me odd LED keychains and other Chinese 'new to market' items. 

One of the folks in the back carried out a matrixstream device covered in dust. 
They did not know what it was for or what it did. We plugged it into the TV 
with no response. We opened the device. It was pretty much a plastic shell.

Not impressed. RUN.

And yes, you have to negotiate all your media / retransmit contracts.

ryan


On 1/7/16 3:31 PM, Josh Corson wrote:

  Anyone ever use them? I've looked into this in the past but wasn't sure if 
they provided the content or if we had to do all the legwork and then use their 
pretty little boxes.. 


  https://www.matrixstream.com/



  -- 

  Josh Corson
  Operations Manager
  BlueBit Networks
  bluebitnetworks.com

  o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073





-- 
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047

Re: [AFMUG] MatrixStream IPTV

[D. Ryan Spott]

Not realchoice.

MatrixStream. Do you have a MatrixStream IPTV system working that I can see?

ryan


On 1/7/16 6:07 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Oh, I will gladly take your $5K...
Realchoice really does work and it is the solution. Transport is an issue.
And I am leaning on them to add a feature.
*From:* D. Ryan Spott 
*Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:51 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] MatrixStream IPTV
I offered $5000 to them to show me ANYONE with a working system that I 
could look at ANYWHERE or just talk to. NOTHING.


Aaron? STILL contacts me over 5 years after I originally inquired on 
this system/device.


I stopped by 2 of their offices in San Francisco about 2 years ago. 
One was a Regus building and the other was a cheap tilt-up building.


The Regus reception said there was no one of that company in her 
records. She may have been trained to say that.


The tilt up building in S. San Francisco had a few people in it that 
tried selling me odd LED keychains and other Chinese 'new to market' 
items.


One of the folks in the back carried out a matrixstream device covered 
in dust. They did not know what it was for or what it did. We plugged 
it into the TV with no response. We opened the device. It was pretty 
much a plastic shell.


Not impressed. RUN.

And yes, you have to negotiate all your media / retransmit contracts.

ryan


On 1/7/16 3:31 PM, Josh Corson wrote:
Anyone ever use them? I've looked into this in the past but wasn't 
sure if they provided the content or if we had to do all the legwork 
and then use theirpretty little boxes..


https://www.matrixstream.com/


--
*Josh Corson*
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com 
o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073




--
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047



--
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Josh Reynolds]

Shoot me an email tomorrow and we'll talk.
On Jan 7, 2016 8:55 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> If you want to take this off list, that is  fine.
> I am keenly interested in which content providers are OK with a VPN
> tunnel.
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:52 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
>
> Yeah, it's just a low end router that runs a VPN tunnel that they have
> access to.
> On Jan 7, 2016 8:49 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> Well, that is better than nothing.  Do they have specs on the magic box?
>>
>> *From:* Josh Reynolds 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:12 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>>
>> So, both the content providers we have been talking with (so we have all
>> of our channel listing) will give us a handoff at 1102 Grand via HE
>> directly into our router, but from there they are requiring a certain Cisco
>> box basically running a VPN between there, over our leased fiber, into our
>> NOC. It's beyond stupid.
>>
>> They are technological neophytes.
>> On Jan 7, 2016 8:09 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>
>>> I don’t think that the encrypted IP boxes are kosher with the content
>>> providers.  I would be jumping for joy if that would pass muster.  I think
>>> I am going to have to approach the problem head on.  If I can convince them
>>> either in mass or one by one that their content is safe I think we can make
>>> it work.
>>>
>>> Consider two situations:
>>> 1)Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your headend like
>>> riding on it.  TV downlink is on a VLAN
>>> 2)Leased fiber transport to a nearby city with your internet
>>> backbone on it.  TV downlink is on a VPN.
>>>
>>> First is kosher second is forbidden.   Go figure.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Reynolds 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:55 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>
>>>
>>> We are going through the same issue with another company right now. They
>>> require encrypted IP "transport boxes" end to end over networks we don't
>>> directly own (transport). It's insane.
>>> On Jan 7, 2016 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>>
 It can be easily.  It can touch a fairly large content delivery
 network, but that cuts into profit.

 *From:* Chris Fabien 
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:44 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV


 Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks
 already?  We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently,
 wonder if it would be easy to get to from there.
 On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per
> stream.
> If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it
> is about 2 gbps full time.
>
> *From:* Chris Fabien 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
> How much transport is required and where in utah?
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably
>> means no.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Corson 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>> We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June
>> 1st...do you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?
>>
>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
>>> So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.
>>> Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various
>>> tunneling and VPN methods.
>>>
>>> If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Corson
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
>>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>
>>> Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an
>>> apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious 
>>> if
>>> Realchoice has gotten back to anyone.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown <
>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>>
 You are.

 *From:* Erich Kaiser
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
 *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Chuck McCown]

It is wholesale IPTV but via Android and the Nexus box with app.
The cool  thing is the ability to go back in time with the on screen display tv 
guide.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 8:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Are they doing anything special or just wholesale IPTV? There's already at 
least one network doing wholesale IPTV in Cermak already.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com






From: "Chris Fabien" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 6:44:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV


Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks already?  
We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently, wonder if it would 
be easy to get to from there.

On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per stream.
  If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it is 
about 2 gbps full time.  

  From: Chris Fabien 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  How much transport is required and where in utah?

  On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means no. 
 

From: Josh Corson 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do 
you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?

On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
  So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.  Turns 
out that the content providers are still unhappy with various tunneling and VPN 
methods. 

  If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.   

  From: Josh Corson 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an 
apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if 
Realchoice has gotten back to anyone. 


  On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

You are.

From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

Chuck, 

Put me on the list

Thanks!


Erich Kaiser 
North Central Tower
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291



On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

  Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with 
the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.  
  They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something 
direct.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

  " still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this, 
  I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding 
with..

  Ducking under my phone

  Jaime Solorza 
  Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390

  On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown 
 wrote:

Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from 
Realchoice before I can proceed.  




  -- 

  Josh Corson
  Operations Manager
  BlueBit Networks
  bluebitnetworks.com

  o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073



-- 

Josh Corson
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com

o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS

[Cassidy B. Larson]

If only there were an easy identifier to tie the router mac to the SM. I see 
the router MAC in the auth attempt just fine, and I know what VLAN it’s on, but 
not which SM.
DSL has a VPI/VCI pair which we use to tie to the customer so any attempts from 
that vpi/vci I know is coming from customer XYZ.




> On Jan 7, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> A far more likely scenario is customer buys new router, puts his WiFi 
> password in as the PPPoE password, it doesn't work so he gives up, and router 
> tries the wrong password every 10 seconds for a couple days until he gets 
> around to calling you.  Lots of log entries.
> 
> I guess you could cover Netgear routers by creating a login for "guest" and 
> redirecting to a page that says call this number for help with your PPPoE 
> setup.  Why Netgear sets it to "guest" instead of blank, I don't know.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Simon Westlake
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 9:13 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS
> 
> You think so? You're saying you think that a user that enters an invalid
> username and password should still get access to the network? I guess if
> you're giving the credentials to end users, it might make sense, so it's
> clear to them that they entered it incorrectly. If you're putting it
> into your radios exclusively though, it seems like you might not want to
> give a user any access at all if they're just trying random passwords.
> 
> On 1/7/2016 7:05 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>> Typically the pppoe server is at the tower, so it has a local pool to hand 
>> out, if the customer needs  a static, that would be assigned via PPPOE as 
>> well as a framed route if they need a specific block.   For MT there are a 
>> number of radius attributes, but the simplest is address-group, If all pppoe 
>> servers are configured the same, giving a address group lobs them into 
>> anything such as filters, firewall, redirection etc.  the last though is ip 
>> pool, so that you can give them a redirected pool and not use a public IP if 
>> they are not auth.  Big thing, they should always auth, just get redirected 
>> if not valid. :)
>> 
>> 
>> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
>> den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:50 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] RADIUS
>> 
>> For those of you using RADIUS to manage your customers (whether via PPPoE, 
>> or something else), how are you doing it? Are you using pools, static 
>> addresses or a mixture? Are you using groups to control access/redirect to 
>> delinquency pages etc or other methods? What kind of attributes are you 
>> using? What is/are your NAS? I'm guessing mostly Mikrotik in this group!
>> 
>> I'm working on a bunch of RADIUS stuff right now, and trying to build it to 
>> be as flexible as possible.. any input any of you can give on how you use 
>> RADIUS on your network would be very much appreciated!
>> 
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>> 
> 
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
> https://sonar.software
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS

[Paul Stewart]

Typically speaking you would push that down as Radius attributes …. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 10:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS

 

Thanks Cassidy. Where does most of the logic live for determining things
like the appropriate pool for a user or the ACL you want to apply?

On 1/6/2016 8:58 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:

We use Cisco for our PPPoE termination. Mostly 7301 and ASR1001s.� 

Some static IPs but mostly Dynamic Pools. Multiple dynamic pools for
suspended, filtered, and non-filtered regular users.

We return Framed-Routes, ACLs and other avpairs via Radius reply
attributes.�

Oh and IPv6 as well.�





 

On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:50 PM, Simon Westlake  > wrote:

 

For those of you using RADIUS to manage your customers (whether via PPPoE,
or something else), how are you doing it? Are you using pools, static
addresses or a mixture? Are you using groups to control access/redirect to
delinquency pages etc or other methods? What kind of attributes are you
using? What is/are your NAS? I'm guessing mostly Mikrotik in this group!

I'm working on a bunch of RADIUS stuff right now, and trying to build it to
be as flexible as possible.. any input any of you can give on how you use
RADIUS on your network would be very much appreciated!

-- 
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software  
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

 





-- 
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software  
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.

[Jay Weekley]

I suspect the family would be allowed to do it provided there was no 
facility policy against it.  Then again, I'm thinking worst case 
scenario if a hacker were to gain access to other patients cameras then 
things would get rough for the nursing home.


Ken Hohhof wrote:
For the nursing home to do it, as opposed to allowing the family to do 
it, now I think you would be contending with HIPAA.  They would 
probably require it to operate via FAX.

*From:* Dennis Burgess 
*Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:26 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.

Would be kewl, enter the patient name and room number, to view or 
something on-line, like a holel get on-line use your last name and 
room number thing..


Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

den...@linktechs.net  – 314-735-0270 x103 
– www.linktechs.net 


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jay Weekley
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2016 6:43 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.

Cameras in the patients room to check on the family member?

On January 6, 2016 5:28:23 PM CST, That One Guy /sarcasm 
> wrote:


we may have a lucrative opportunity here in illinois, nursing home
residents can now install cameras, as i understand it they have to
be instelled by the resident or the poa. A leasing option is a
moneymaker

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Jaime Solorza
> wrote:

I don't install wireless cameras using WiFiused to install
900 and 5GHz long ago...most of the stuff today I wire up


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390 

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:03 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>
wrote:

and FYI, if youre installing these 2.4 wireless security
cameras, youre not installing security cameras

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:02 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> wrote:

Here you can do it, you just cant turn on any form of
devi ce that connects to emergency services,
everything but connect it, just cant connect it.

The biggest problem is people see they can get 8-16
camera dvr systems often wireless for 2-400 bucks
online and want to know why youre wanting 1-2k

They always get what they pay for, but thats where the
money is at, they get the cheap one and have their
nephew install it, and you make your 1-2k on service
charges when they end up calling you anyway to help
them figure stuff out. Remember while youre making
repairs to the garbage to quietly build out your own
infrastructure for the system they ultimately buy from
you to come back in and install correctly for an
additional 1-2k

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Jaime Solorza
> wrote:

to be a security company.yes.you are
setting up private systems and they monitor
themselves.  you are just an installer and off
site back upi only install and set upi
don't offer back up services.


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390 

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Adam Moffett
>
wrote:

Yes, but in NY you need a license for this. 
I'm not sure how common that is in other

states, but I thought it worth mentioning.

On 1/6/2016 5:44 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

yessmall car lots, repair centers,
clinics, daycares, go after the small
ones...bars, laundramats


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390 

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Jay
Weekley > wrote:

Is there any money to be 

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS

[Paul Stewart]

So we run FreeRadius across the board (DSL and wireless).  It's a rather 
complex and heavily customized setup due to scaling and feature requirements...

We use dynamic pools on the NAS for IPv4/IPv6 allocation and push framed routes 
down from Radius for customers with static IP assignments.  Groups are used on 
the NAS devices for a number of things.

Our NAS's are pretty much all Juniper MX480 with some Juniper E320 still in 
use.  The wireless networks are backhauled into centralized locations (switch 
at tower site, PPPOE done further upstream for aggregation).

Kind of high level answer - hope it helps...

Paul


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 9:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] RADIUS

For those of you using RADIUS to manage your customers (whether via PPPoE, or 
something else), how are you doing it? Are you using pools, static addresses or 
a mixture? Are you using groups to control access/redirect to delinquency pages 
etc or other methods? What kind of attributes are you using? What is/are your 
NAS? I'm guessing mostly Mikrotik in this group!

I'm working on a bunch of RADIUS stuff right now, and trying to build it to be 
as flexible as possible.. any input any of you can give on how you use RADIUS 
on your network would be very much appreciated!

--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.

[Ken Hohhof]

If the facility has WiFi, wouldn’t people just get a Nestcam for $200 and the 
cloud storage subscription for $10/mo?  Or at least that would set the 
expectations for what you could charge?


From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.

http://www.pantagraph.com/news/local/new-law-allows-video-cameras-in-nursing-home-rooms/article_bc42a6da-8e84-5401-bb04-db32b6a370e8.html



"The bill sponsored by Rep. Greg Harris, D-Chicago, and Sen. Terry Link, 
D-Waukegan, requires consent from residents and their roommates for the 
electronic devices that must be purchased, installed and maintained by 
residents.
The state will assist residents who cannot afford the cost of a device."



Getting in on this state money might be worth looking into. A UPS with a couple 
cameras and DVR in tamper proof case with those Kensington locks. Nice cheap, 
reproducable kits, self installable (maintenance can install tamper proof 
connectors for the kensington hook), on a lease. Big red recording light on the 
top with a label saying "If RED light is off call xxx-xxx-" Patient family 
has a secondary key to adjust the cameras, Leasor has the combination to the 
master case, openable upon request (and of course for a nominal site fee). 
Optional external touchscreen LCD viewing panel with read only privilege as an 
upgrade option (for a nominal fee). alot of nominal fee options for something 
like this.

If you're a managed services provider, this is a good way to get in the door on 
a maintenance contract for the overall IT of the facility, though I wonder if 
the wording in the law would prohibit that as at that point you may be 
considered a representative of the nursing home.




On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

  For the nursing home to do it, as opposed to allowing the family to do it, 
now I think you would be contending with HIPAA.  They would probably require it 
to operate via FAX.


  From: Dennis Burgess 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:26 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.

  Would be kewl, enter the patient name and room number, to view or something 
on-line, like a holel get on-line use your last name and room number thing..  



  Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

  den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
  Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 6:43 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.



  Cameras in the patients room to check on the family member?

  On January 6, 2016 5:28:23 PM CST, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

we may have a lucrative opportunity here in illinois, nursing home 
residents can now install cameras, as i understand it they have to be instelled 
by the resident or the poa. A leasing option is a moneymaker





On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Jaime Solorza  
wrote:

  I don't install wireless cameras using WiFiused to install 900 and 
5GHz long ago...most of the stuff today I wire up




  Jaime Solorza

  Wireless Systems Architect

  915-861-1390



  On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:03 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

and FYI, if youre installing these 2.4 wireless security cameras, youre 
not installing security cameras





On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:02 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:

  Here you can do it, you just cant turn on any form of devi ce that 
connects to emergency services, everything but connect it, just cant connect it.



  The biggest problem is people see they can get 8-16 camera dvr 
systems often wireless for 2-400 bucks online and want to know why youre 
wanting 1-2k



  They always get what they pay for, but thats where the money is at, 
they get the cheap one and have their nephew install it, and you make your 1-2k 
on service charges when they end up calling you anyway to help them figure 
stuff out. Remember while youre making repairs to the garbage to quietly build 
out your own infrastructure for the system they ultimately buy from you to come 
back in and install correctly for an additional 1-2k



  On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Jaime Solorza 
 wrote:

to be a security company.yes.you are setting up private 
systems and they monitor themselves.  you are just an installer and off site 
back upi only install and set upi don't offer back up services.




Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390



On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:

  Yes, 

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS

[Simon Westlake]

You could, I'm slowly going off the whole redirect methodology though. 
As time goes on, and more and more sites are SSL, and people are using 
apps and gaming consoles and everything else, it gets less useful. I 
think it still has a place today, but I have a feeling that within a few 
years, it's going to be very limited in its usefulness. Probably more 
reliable to send people a text message at this point..


On 1/7/2016 9:35 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:

Interesting thought.  You could direct them to a special “wrong credentials 
pool” that gets wall gardened and directed to a splash page informing them of 
such.


On Jan 7, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Simon Westlake  wrote:

You think so? You're saying you think that a user that enters an invalid 
username and password should still get access to the network? I guess if you're 
giving the credentials to end users, it might make sense, so it's clear to them 
that they entered it incorrectly. If you're putting it into your radios 
exclusively though, it seems like you might not want to give a user any access 
at all if they're just trying random passwords.

On 1/7/2016 7:05 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

Typically the pppoe server is at the tower, so it has a local pool to hand out, 
if the customer needs  a static, that would be assigned via PPPOE as well as a 
framed route if they need a specific block.   For MT there are a number of 
radius attributes, but the simplest is address-group, If all pppoe servers are 
configured the same, giving a address group lobs them into anything such as 
filters, firewall, redirection etc.  the last though is ip pool, so that you 
can give them a redirected pool and not use a public IP if they are not auth.  
Big thing, they should always auth, just get redirected if not valid. :)


Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] RADIUS

For those of you using RADIUS to manage your customers (whether via PPPoE, or 
something else), how are you doing it? Are you using pools, static addresses or 
a mixture? Are you using groups to control access/redirect to delinquency pages 
etc or other methods? What kind of attributes are you using? What is/are your 
NAS? I'm guessing mostly Mikrotik in this group!

I'm working on a bunch of RADIUS stuff right now, and trying to build it to be 
as flexible as possible.. any input any of you can give on how you use RADIUS 
on your network would be very much appreciated!

--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software


--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software



--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account

[Josh Luthman]

I don't have a bunch of prepay accounts like that, but there ones I do I
simply negotiate a different rate (like 10% off) and then change the
monthly.  Since it's 12 month billing cycle when it runs it does 12xMRC.
Then the customers card gets charged or the invoice tells them the annual
cost.

I can't say it's had any flaws and I can think of a handful of accounts
where it's worked, but YMMV.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> yes. I even tried clicking on generate initial bill on the new account
>
> What we have is a 10 dollar discount per month for annual payments that
> equates to 120 bucks a year
> I have the monthly service set to 39 and a monthly discount set to 10 so
> the initial bill should be 29x12 with prepay set to 12, but its just not
> happening
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> 3 and 4 for billing then 10:30 for delinquency.
>>
>> Was the one for the 7th active?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 7, 2016 10:40 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I did I had a new account i created and activated that was set for the
>>> 6th, and another test account set for the 7th, neither processed this
>>> morning, it happens at like 3 am doesnt it?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Set it for tomorrow?  It'll run in the morning.

 I wouldn't go doing it manually, but the pages are in cron...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jan 7, 2016 10:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> any of you powercode users know if there is a command to force this?
> Im working on our new rates and packages with discounts and 12 month 
> prepays
> I need to force the test account to run a billing cycle to see what it
> generates for a bill, but i dont want it affecting other accounts billing
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

thats what im working with is packages, theyre all screwed up, you cant
delete anything.

Are they broken completely? I dont like that you cant limit view able
packages by customer group like you can with services

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Maybe wait until packages comes back then?  Also whip them kids into shape.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 7, 2016 11:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> trained monkeys josh, theyre not reliable, everytime a customer changes a
>> tier they would have to remember to add back the price override, Half the
>> time they cant even get customer paperwork completed before they schedule
>> things
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think you're saying you have a rate plan for monthly and another for
>>> annually?
>>>
>>> Just do one and use price override.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Jan 7, 2016 11:01 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 yeah, thats what we are currently doing, but it generates 2X the number
 of rate plans and we are modifying our tiers to usage only but need to
 control the speed based on the capability of the equipment and quality of
 the install, it ultimately requires 36 standard rate plans to choose from
 to keep that component centralized rather than per each device or site
 mikrotik. 18 is easier to manage and input since powercode doesnt have a
 way to import rate plans.

 Annual billing with discounts has been a powercode PITA since day one,
 it doesnt seem all that complicated a thing

 On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> I don't have a bunch of prepay accounts like that, but there ones I do
> I simply negotiate a different rate (like 10% off) and then change the
> monthly.  Since it's 12 month billing cycle when it runs it does 12xMRC.
> Then the customers card gets charged or the invoice tells them the annual
> cost.
>
> I can't say it's had any flaws and I can think of a handful of
> accounts where it's worked, but YMMV.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> yes. I even tried clicking on generate initial bill on the new account
>>
>> What we have is a 10 dollar discount per month for annual payments
>> that equates to 120 bucks a year
>> I have the monthly service set to 39 and a monthly discount set to 10
>> so the initial bill should be 29x12 with prepay set to 12, but its just 
>> not
>> happening
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 3 and 4 for billing then 10:30 for delinquency.
>>>
>>> Was the one for the 7th active?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Jan 7, 2016 10:40 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I did I had a new account i created and activated that was set for
 the 6th, and another test account set for the 7th, neither processed 
 this
 morning, it happens at like 3 am doesnt it?


 On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Set it for tomorrow?  It'll run in the morning.
>
> I wouldn't go doing it manually, but the pages are in cron...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 7, 2016 10:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> any of you powercode users know if there is a command to force
>> this? Im working on our new rates and packages with discounts and 12 
>> month
>> prepays
>> I need to force the test account to run a billing cycle to see
>> what it generates for a bill, but i dont want it affecting other 
>> accounts
>> billing
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the 
>> team.
>>
>


 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the 

Re: [AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I can add, just cant edit or delete

I have a ticket open on it, I guess in the transition that didnt get
relayed this is purposefully disabled?

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Disabled for editing and adding I thought?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 7, 2016 11:29 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> thats what im working with is packages, theyre all screwed up, you cant
>> delete anything.
>>
>> Are they broken completely? I dont like that you cant limit view able
>> packages by customer group like you can with services
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe wait until packages comes back then?  Also whip them kids into
>>> shape.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Jan 7, 2016 11:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 trained monkeys josh, theyre not reliable, everytime a customer changes
 a tier they would have to remember to add back the price override, Half the
 time they cant even get customer paperwork completed before they schedule
 things

 On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> I think you're saying you have a rate plan for monthly and another for
> annually?
>
> Just do one and use price override.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 7, 2016 11:01 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> yeah, thats what we are currently doing, but it generates 2X the
>> number of rate plans and we are modifying our tiers to usage only but 
>> need
>> to control the speed based on the capability of the equipment and quality
>> of the install, it ultimately requires 36 standard rate plans to choose
>> from to keep that component centralized rather than per each device or 
>> site
>> mikrotik. 18 is easier to manage and input since powercode doesnt have a
>> way to import rate plans.
>>
>> Annual billing with discounts has been a powercode PITA since day
>> one, it doesnt seem all that complicated a thing
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have a bunch of prepay accounts like that, but there ones I
>>> do I simply negotiate a different rate (like 10% off) and then change 
>>> the
>>> monthly.  Since it's 12 month billing cycle when it runs it does 12xMRC.
>>> Then the customers card gets charged or the invoice tells them the 
>>> annual
>>> cost.
>>>
>>> I can't say it's had any flaws and I can think of a handful of
>>> accounts where it's worked, but YMMV.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Jan 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 yes. I even tried clicking on generate initial bill on the new
 account

 What we have is a 10 dollar discount per month for annual payments
 that equates to 120 bucks a year
 I have the monthly service set to 39 and a monthly discount set to
 10 so the initial bill should be 29x12 with prepay set to 12, but its 
 just
 not happening

 On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> 3 and 4 for billing then 10:30 for delinquency.
>
> Was the one for the 7th active?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 7, 2016 10:40 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I did I had a new account i created and activated that was set
>> for the 6th, and another test account set for the 7th, neither 
>> processed
>> this morning, it happens at like 3 am doesnt it?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Set it for tomorrow?  It'll run in the morning.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't go doing it manually, but the pages are in cron...
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Jan 7, 2016 10:10 AM, 

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS

[Simon Westlake]

Paul,

In most cases, are you assigning a unique subnet to a customer for 
static assignment then? You're not just giving them an IP out of a 
larger pool? Are these mostly commercial or residential customers?


On 1/7/2016 11:29 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:

So we run FreeRadius across the board (DSL and wireless).  It's a rather 
complex and heavily customized setup due to scaling and feature requirements...

We use dynamic pools on the NAS for IPv4/IPv6 allocation and push framed routes 
down from Radius for customers with static IP assignments.  Groups are used on 
the NAS devices for a number of things.

Our NAS's are pretty much all Juniper MX480 with some Juniper E320 still in 
use.  The wireless networks are backhauled into centralized locations (switch 
at tower site, PPPOE done further upstream for aggregation).

Kind of high level answer - hope it helps...

Paul


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 9:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] RADIUS

For those of you using RADIUS to manage your customers (whether via PPPoE, or 
something else), how are you doing it? Are you using pools, static addresses or 
a mixture? Are you using groups to control access/redirect to delinquency pages 
etc or other methods? What kind of attributes are you using? What is/are your 
NAS? I'm guessing mostly Mikrotik in this group!

I'm working on a bunch of RADIUS stuff right now, and trying to build it to be 
as flexible as possible.. any input any of you can give on how you use RADIUS 
on your network would be very much appreciated!

--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software




--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I would absolutely refuse a wireless solution, a fully enclosed housing
with no physical access to the controller. Too much liability and too easy
to shut down

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> I suspect the family would be allowed to do it provided there was no
> facility policy against it.  Then again, I'm thinking worst case scenario
> if a hacker were to gain access to other patients cameras then things would
> get rough for the nursing home.
>
> Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>> For the nursing home to do it, as opposed to allowing the family to do
>> it, now I think you would be contending with HIPAA.  They would probably
>> require it to operate via FAX.
>> *From:* Dennis Burgess 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:26 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.
>>
>> Would be kewl, enter the patient name and room number, to view or
>> something on-line, like a holel get on-line use your last name and room
>> number thing..
>>
>> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
>>
>> den...@linktechs.net  – 314-735-0270 x103 –
>> www.linktechs.net 
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jay Weekley
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2016 6:43 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.
>>
>> Cameras in the patients room to check on the family member?
>>
>> On January 6, 2016 5:28:23 PM CST, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>> we may have a lucrative opportunity here in illinois, nursing home
>> residents can now install cameras, as i understand it they have to
>> be instelled by the resident or the poa. A leasing option is a
>> moneymaker
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Jaime Solorza
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I don't install wireless cameras using WiFiused to install
>> 900 and 5GHz long ago...most of the stuff today I wire up
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390 
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:03 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> and FYI, if youre installing these 2.4 wireless security
>> cameras, youre not installing security cameras
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:02 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> Here you can do it, you just cant turn on any form of
>> devi ce that connects to emergency services,
>> everything but connect it, just cant connect it.
>>
>> The biggest problem is people see they can get 8-16
>> camera dvr systems often wireless for 2-400 bucks
>> online and want to know why youre wanting 1-2k
>>
>> They always get what they pay for, but thats where the
>> money is at, they get the cheap one and have their
>> nephew install it, and you make your 1-2k on service
>> charges when they end up calling you anyway to help
>> them figure stuff out. Remember while youre making
>> repairs to the garbage to quietly build out your own
>> infrastructure for the system they ultimately buy from
>> you to come back in and install correctly for an
>> additional 1-2k
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Jaime Solorza
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> to be a security company.yes.you are
>> setting up private systems and they monitor
>> themselves.  you are just an installer and off
>> site back upi only install and set upi
>> don't offer back up services.
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390 
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Adam Moffett
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, but in NY you need a license for this.
>>I'm not sure how common that is in other
>> states, but I thought it worth mentioning.
>>
>> On 1/6/2016 5:44 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> yessmall car lots, repair centers,
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS

[Paul Stewart]

I would never suggest giving them access to the network without valid 
credentials .. exception being if you have a walled garden deployed and can 
segment them into a completely isolated area.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RADIUS

You think so? You're saying you think that a user that enters an invalid 
username and password should still get access to the network? I guess if you're 
giving the credentials to end users, it might make sense, so it's clear to them 
that they entered it incorrectly. If you're putting it into your radios 
exclusively though, it seems like you might not want to give a user any access 
at all if they're just trying random passwords.

On 1/7/2016 7:05 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
> Typically the pppoe server is at the tower, so it has a local pool to hand 
> out, if the customer needs  a static, that would be assigned via PPPOE as 
> well as a framed route if they need a specific block.   For MT there are a 
> number of radius attributes, but the simplest is address-group, If all pppoe 
> servers are configured the same, giving a address group lobs them into 
> anything such as filters, firewall, redirection etc.  the last though is ip 
> pool, so that you can give them a redirected pool and not use a public IP if 
> they are not auth.  Big thing, they should always auth, just get redirected 
> if not valid. :)
>
>
> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
> den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
> Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:50 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] RADIUS
>
> For those of you using RADIUS to manage your customers (whether via PPPoE, or 
> something else), how are you doing it? Are you using pools, static addresses 
> or a mixture? Are you using groups to control access/redirect to delinquency 
> pages etc or other methods? What kind of attributes are you using? What 
> is/are your NAS? I'm guessing mostly Mikrotik in this group!
>
> I'm working on a bunch of RADIUS stuff right now, and trying to build it to 
> be as flexible as possible.. any input any of you can give on how you use 
> RADIUS on your network would be very much appreciated!
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>

--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

nest(s)cam is probably not hippapotamus compliant


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> If the facility has WiFi, wouldn’t people just get a Nestcam for $200 and
> the cloud storage subscription for $10/mo?  Or at least that would set the
> expectations for what you could charge?
>
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:56 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.
>
>
> http://www.pantagraph.com/news/local/new-law-allows-video-cameras-in-nursing-home-rooms/article_bc42a6da-8e84-5401-bb04-db32b6a370e8.html
>
> "The bill sponsored by Rep. Greg Harris, D-Chicago, and Sen. Terry Link,
> D-Waukegan, requires consent from residents and their roommates for the
> electronic devices that must be purchased, installed and maintained by
> residents.
>
> The state will assist residents who cannot afford the cost of a device."
>
>
>
> Getting in on this state money might be worth looking into. A UPS with a
> couple cameras and DVR in tamper proof case with those Kensington locks.
> Nice cheap, reproducable kits, self installable (maintenance can install
> tamper proof connectors for the kensington hook), on a lease. Big red
> recording light on the top with a label saying "If RED light is off call
> xxx-xxx-" Patient family has a secondary key to adjust the cameras,
> Leasor has the combination to the master case, openable upon request (and
> of course for a nominal site fee). Optional external touchscreen LCD
> viewing panel with read only privilege as an upgrade option (for a nominal
> fee). alot of nominal fee options for something like this.
>
> If you're a managed services provider, this is a good way to get in the
> door on a maintenance contract for the overall IT of the facility, though I
> wonder if the wording in the law would prohibit that as at that point you
> may be considered a representative of the nursing home.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> For the nursing home to do it, as opposed to allowing the family to do
>> it, now I think you would be contending with HIPAA.  They would probably
>> require it to operate via FAX.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Dennis Burgess 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:26 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.
>>
>>
>> Would be kewl, enter the patient name and room number, to view or
>> something on-line, like a holel get on-line use your last name and room
>> number thing..
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
>>
>> den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 <314-735-0270%20x103> –
>> www.linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jay Weekley
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2016 6:43 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cameras in the patients room to check on the family member?
>>
>> On January 6, 2016 5:28:23 PM CST, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> we may have a lucrative opportunity here in illinois, nursing home
>> residents can now install cameras, as i understand it they have to be
>> instelled by the resident or the poa. A leasing option is a moneymaker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I don't install wireless cameras using WiFiused to install 900 and
>> 5GHz long ago...most of the stuff today I wire up
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:03 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> and FYI, if youre installing these 2.4 wireless security cameras, youre
>> not installing security cameras
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:02 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Here you can do it, you just cant turn on any form of devi ce that
>> connects to emergency services, everything but connect it, just cant
>> connect it.
>>
>>
>>
>> The biggest problem is people see they can get 8-16 camera dvr systems
>> often wireless for 2-400 bucks online and want to know why youre wanting
>> 1-2k
>>
>>
>>
>> They always get what they pay for, but thats where the money is at, they
>> get the cheap one and have their nephew install it, and you make your 1-2k
>> on service charges when they end up calling you anyway to help them figure
>> stuff out. Remember while youre making repairs to the garbage to quietly
>> build out your own infrastructure for the system they ultimately buy from
>> you to come back in and install correctly for an additional 1-2k
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> to be a security company.yes.you are setting up 

Re: [AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I did I had a new account i created and activated that was set for the 6th,
and another test account set for the 7th, neither processed this morning,
it happens at like 3 am doesnt it?


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Set it for tomorrow?  It'll run in the morning.
>
> I wouldn't go doing it manually, but the pages are in cron...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 7, 2016 10:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> any of you powercode users know if there is a command to force this? Im
>> working on our new rates and packages with discounts and 12 month prepays
>> I need to force the test account to run a billing cycle to see what it
>> generates for a bill, but i dont want it affecting other accounts billing
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

yeah, thats what we are currently doing, but it generates 2X the number of
rate plans and we are modifying our tiers to usage only but need to control
the speed based on the capability of the equipment and quality of the
install, it ultimately requires 36 standard rate plans to choose from to
keep that component centralized rather than per each device or site
mikrotik. 18 is easier to manage and input since powercode doesnt have a
way to import rate plans.

Annual billing with discounts has been a powercode PITA since day one, it
doesnt seem all that complicated a thing

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I don't have a bunch of prepay accounts like that, but there ones I do I
> simply negotiate a different rate (like 10% off) and then change the
> monthly.  Since it's 12 month billing cycle when it runs it does 12xMRC.
> Then the customers card gets charged or the invoice tells them the annual
> cost.
>
> I can't say it's had any flaws and I can think of a handful of accounts
> where it's worked, but YMMV.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> yes. I even tried clicking on generate initial bill on the new account
>>
>> What we have is a 10 dollar discount per month for annual payments that
>> equates to 120 bucks a year
>> I have the monthly service set to 39 and a monthly discount set to 10 so
>> the initial bill should be 29x12 with prepay set to 12, but its just not
>> happening
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Luthman > > wrote:
>>
>>> 3 and 4 for billing then 10:30 for delinquency.
>>>
>>> Was the one for the 7th active?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Jan 7, 2016 10:40 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I did I had a new account i created and activated that was set for the
 6th, and another test account set for the 7th, neither processed this
 morning, it happens at like 3 am doesnt it?


 On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Set it for tomorrow?  It'll run in the morning.
>
> I wouldn't go doing it manually, but the pages are in cron...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 7, 2016 10:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> any of you powercode users know if there is a command to force this?
>> Im working on our new rates and packages with discounts and 12 month 
>> prepays
>> I need to force the test account to run a billing cycle to see what
>> it generates for a bill, but i dont want it affecting other accounts 
>> billing
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

[Wireless Administrator]

Mathew,

 

We tried PMP100 and even with one sector and one AP performance was 6db  off 
the expected level.

 

We haven’t implemented 450i-900 yet but would be concerned about V/H vs Dual 
Slant.

 

Steve

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:45 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

 

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work with either setup. If there are 
multiple sectors on a tower, you may run into some issues doing frequency 
re-use, since I don't think the F/B ratio is as good as the Cambium sectors, 
but if you're talking about a single sector, I don't see that there would be 
any issues. 

I am actually planning to upgrade the Ubiquiti 900mhz sector we have to a 450i 
this spring, and re-use the UBNT antenna. 

 

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Wireless Administrator  wrote:

Does anyone have experience trying to use the following antenna with Cambium 
access points?

 

Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

 

Would it work with either a pair of PMP100 AP’s to provide v/h coverage or with 
the new 450 gear in a V/H implementation?

 

Thanks,

Steve

 

Re: [AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Maybe I didn't catch all the details here but would a self expiring discount 
work?  Maybe have it self expire after 11 months and if the customer pays 
annually again next year add the self expiring discount back in?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account


  Maybe, I am in beta...

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Jan 7, 2016 11:37 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
wrote:

I can add, just cant edit or delete


I have a ticket open on it, I guess in the transition that didnt get 
relayed this is purposefully disabled?


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  Disabled for editing and adding I thought?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Jan 7, 2016 11:29 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:

thats what im working with is packages, theyre all screwed up, you cant 
delete anything.


Are they broken completely? I dont like that you cant limit view able 
packages by customer group like you can with services


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

  Maybe wait until packages comes back then?  Also whip them kids into 
shape.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Jan 7, 2016 11:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:

trained monkeys josh, theyre not reliable, everytime a customer 
changes a tier they would have to remember to add back the price override, Half 
the time they cant even get customer paperwork completed before they schedule 
things


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

  I think you're saying you have a rate plan for monthly and 
another for annually?

  Just do one and use price override.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Jan 7, 2016 11:01 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:

yeah, thats what we are currently doing, but it generates 2X 
the number of rate plans and we are modifying our tiers to usage only but need 
to control the speed based on the capability of the equipment and quality of 
the install, it ultimately requires 36 standard rate plans to choose from to 
keep that component centralized rather than per each device or site mikrotik. 
18 is easier to manage and input since powercode doesnt have a way to import 
rate plans.


Annual billing with discounts has been a powercode PITA since 
day one, it doesnt seem all that complicated a thing


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

  I don't have a bunch of prepay accounts like that, but there 
ones I do I simply negotiate a different rate (like 10% off) and then change 
the monthly.  Since it's 12 month billing cycle when it runs it does 12xMRC.  
Then the customers card gets charged or the invoice tells them the annual cost.

  I can't say it's had any flaws and I can think of a handful 
of accounts where it's worked, but YMMV.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Jan 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:

yes. I even tried clicking on generate initial bill on the 
new account


What we have is a 10 dollar discount per month for annual 
payments that equates to 120 bucks a year
I have the monthly service set to 39 and a monthly discount 
set to 10 so the initial bill should be 29x12 with prepay set to 12, but its 
just not happening


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

  3 and 4 for billing then 10:30 for delinquency.

  Was the one for the 7th active?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Jan 7, 2016 10:40 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 

Re: [AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account

[Josh Reynolds]

Do you have full owners rights?
On Jan 7, 2016 10:37 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> I can add, just cant edit or delete
>
> I have a ticket open on it, I guess in the transition that didnt get
> relayed this is purposefully disabled?
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Disabled for editing and adding I thought?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 7, 2016 11:29 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> thats what im working with is packages, theyre all screwed up, you cant
>>> delete anything.
>>>
>>> Are they broken completely? I dont like that you cant limit view able
>>> packages by customer group like you can with services
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Maybe wait until packages comes back then?  Also whip them kids into
 shape.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jan 7, 2016 11:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> trained monkeys josh, theyre not reliable, everytime a customer
> changes a tier they would have to remember to add back the price override,
> Half the time they cant even get customer paperwork completed before they
> schedule things
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> I think you're saying you have a rate plan for monthly and another
>> for annually?
>>
>> Just do one and use price override.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 7, 2016 11:01 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yeah, thats what we are currently doing, but it generates 2X the
>>> number of rate plans and we are modifying our tiers to usage only but 
>>> need
>>> to control the speed based on the capability of the equipment and 
>>> quality
>>> of the install, it ultimately requires 36 standard rate plans to choose
>>> from to keep that component centralized rather than per each device or 
>>> site
>>> mikrotik. 18 is easier to manage and input since powercode doesnt have a
>>> way to import rate plans.
>>>
>>> Annual billing with discounts has been a powercode PITA since day
>>> one, it doesnt seem all that complicated a thing
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 I don't have a bunch of prepay accounts like that, but there ones I
 do I simply negotiate a different rate (like 10% off) and then change 
 the
 monthly.  Since it's 12 month billing cycle when it runs it does 
 12xMRC.
 Then the customers card gets charged or the invoice tells them the 
 annual
 cost.

 I can't say it's had any flaws and I can think of a handful of
 accounts where it's worked, but YMMV.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jan 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> yes. I even tried clicking on generate initial bill on the new
> account
>
> What we have is a 10 dollar discount per month for annual payments
> that equates to 120 bucks a year
> I have the monthly service set to 39 and a monthly discount set to
> 10 so the initial bill should be 29x12 with prepay set to 12, but its 
> just
> not happening
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> 3 and 4 for billing then 10:30 for delinquency.
>>
>> Was the one for the 7th active?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 7, 2016 10:40 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I did I had a new account i created and activated that was set
>>> for the 6th, and another test account set for the 7th, neither 
>>> processed
>>> this morning, it happens at like 3 am doesnt it?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Set it for tomorrow?  It'll run in the morning.

 I 

Re: [AFMUG] MatrixStream IPTV

[D. Ryan Spott]

I offered $5000 to them to show me ANYONE with a working system that I 
could look at ANYWHERE or just talk to. NOTHING.


Aaron? STILL contacts me over 5 years after I originally inquired on 
this system/device.


I stopped by 2 of their offices in San Francisco about 2 years ago. One 
was a Regus building and the other was a cheap tilt-up building.


The Regus reception said there was no one of that company in her 
records. She may have been trained to say that.


The tilt up building in S. San Francisco had a few people in it that 
tried selling me odd LED keychains and other Chinese 'new to market' items.


One of the folks in the back carried out a matrixstream device covered 
in dust. They did not know what it was for or what it did. We plugged it 
into the TV with no response. We opened the device. It was pretty much a 
plastic shell.


Not impressed. RUN.

And yes, you have to negotiate all your media / retransmit contracts.

ryan


On 1/7/16 3:31 PM, Josh Corson wrote:
Anyone ever use them? I've looked into this in the past but wasn't 
sure if they provided the content or if we had to do all the legwork 
and then use their pretty little boxes..



https://www.matrixstream.com/


--
*Josh Corson*
Operations Manager
BlueBit Networks
bluebitnetworks.com 
o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073




--
D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
broadband | telco | colo | communities
PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
425-939-0047

Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

[Josh Reynolds]

We are going through the same issue with another company right now. They
require encrypted IP "transport boxes" end to end over networks we don't
directly own (transport). It's insane.
On Jan 7, 2016 7:19 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> It can be easily.  It can touch a fairly large content delivery network,
> but that cuts into profit.
>
> *From:* Chris Fabien 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:44 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
>
> Is their headend in a datacenter or well connected to major networks
> already?  We have 2gigs of unused transport into 350 Cermak currently,
> wonder if it would be easy to get to from there.
> On Jan 7, 2016 6:26 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> If you are taking just the streams in use, it is about 5 mbps per stream.
>> If you are taking the whole feed with an edge server at your site, it is
>> about 2 gbps full time.
>>
>> *From:* Chris Fabien 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:25 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>> How much transport is required and where in utah?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes if you have very low cost transport to Utah, so that probably means
>>> no.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Corson 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:22 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>>
>>> We are in Missouri...they are suppose to move customers in June 1st...do
>>> you think we will have the option to get this prior to then?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2016, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 Right now they are in the midst of a headend move.
 So far you will have to be able to get transport to their headend.
 Turns out that the content providers are still unhappy with various
 tunneling and VPN methods.

 If you are in Utah you can probably get the feed.

 *From:* Josh Corson
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:15 PM
 *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV

 Did anyone get any more info on this? We are about to go into an
 apartment complex and they want us to offer TV service and was curious if
 Realchoice has gotten back to anyone.

 On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Chuck McCown <
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:

> You are.
>
> *From:* Erich Kaiser
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:56 PM
> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>
> Chuck,
>
> Put me on the list
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Erich Kaiser
> North Central Tower
> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com');
> Office: 630-621-4804
> Cell: 630-777-9291
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Chuck McCown <
> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I just threw it in their laps.  The wanted me to mediate with
>> the WISPs but they don’t move at the pace I am used to.
>> They have all your email addresses.  Hopefully you will get something
>> direct.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:59 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Realchoice TV
>>
>> " still awaiting? "   hum ,,,try this,
>> I am still waiting on a document from RealChoice before proceeding
>> with..
>>
>> Ducking under my phone
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown <
>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');> wrote:
>>
>>> Have not forgot about everyone.  Still awaiting a document from
>>> Realchoice before I can proceed.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


 --

 *Josh Corson*
 Operations Manager
 BlueBit Networks
 bluebitnetworks.com
 o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073


>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *Josh Corson*
>>> Operations Manager
>>> BlueBit Networks
>>> bluebitnetworks.com
>>> o. 573.355.5381 c. 573.259.3073
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] Procera competitors ?

[Tushar Patel]

Hi,

 

Who are the procera competitors?

 

Saisei

Allot,

Sandvine

 

Anybody else?

 

People who have deployed other than procera, can you share your experience?

 

Thanks,

Tushar

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

[Mathew Howard]

I really don't think I would mess with it, if it wasn't already on the
tower... I certainly wouldn't buy a new one. If you really want a 120
degree sector there are some dual slants out there (L-com has one), but all
of them I've seen seem to have fairly poor F/B specs.

Also, I heard Cambium does have a 120 in the works... whether or not that's
still going to happen, I don't know.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Just going by the spec sheet, that sector is 120 degrees at the 6 dB
> points (109 degrees HPOL).  Plus it is V/H not dual slant.  Plus there is
> no F/B spec.
>
> If you already have one on the tower, it makes sense to try and use it.
> But for a new installation, is the difference between 90 and 109 degrees
> enough to worry about?  Or maybe ring up KPP and see if they have something
> in the pipeline that would be 120 degrees at 3 dB, dual slant, good F/B,
> and maybe even with N connectors and a mounting bracket for the 450i AP?
>
>
> *From:* Wireless Administrator 
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:01 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)
>
>
> I’m with you on that.  I spent about 2 weeks in denial before I finally
> gave up.  Maybe someone else here will comment on possibilities.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:45 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)
>
>
>
> Interesting, I don't have anything to compare the sector we have to (there
> hasn't ever been any other 900mhz on the tower), and the clients are all
> NLOS, so calculations aren't useful, so I can't say that ours is actually
> working as well as it should... but there's no reason why it should work
> any differently with a Canopy radio attached to it than it does with a UBNT
> radio (unless there's a problem with the adapter, of course).
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Wireless Administrator 
> wrote:
>
> Calculated levels and comparison to integrated AP performance.  All three
> sectors had the same issues.  We tried every possible combination even
> slant holding stinger on a 45deg angle.  I was just hoping to hear from
> someone who could explain why or perhaps from someone who got it working.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 1:57 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)
>
>
>
> 6db off compared to what? another sector, or calculated signal levels?
>
> I'm a little concerned about using V/H as well, which is why I opted to go
> with a Cambium sector for our first AP, rather than doing this project now.
> Apparently it does work to mix V/H and slant antennas with PMP450 - Cambium
> confirmed that is the case with 3.65 (the new high gain SM is V/H and the
> sectors are slant), so I'm assuming it will work fine with the 900mhz 450i
> as well... and the Cambium dual slant yagis can easily be converted to V/H
> as well... whether or not it will work as well as slant, probably largely
> depends on the environment it's deployed in.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Wireless Administrator 
> wrote:
>
> Mathew,
>
>
>
> We tried PMP100 and even with one sector and one AP performance was 6db
> off the expected level.
>
>
>
> We haven’t implemented 450i-900 yet but would be concerned about V/H vs
> Dual Slant.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:45 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)
>
>
>
> I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work with either setup. If there
> are multiple sectors on a tower, you may run into some issues doing
> frequency re-use, since I don't think the F/B ratio is as good as the
> Cambium sectors, but if you're talking about a single sector, I don't see
> that there would be any issues.
>
> I am actually planning to upgrade the Ubiquiti 900mhz sector we have to a
> 450i this spring, and re-use the UBNT antenna.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Wireless Administrator 
> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have experience trying to use the following antenna with
> Cambium access points?
>
>
>
> Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)
>
>
>
> Would it work with either a pair of PMP100 AP’s to provide v/h coverage or
> with the new 450 gear in a V/H implementation?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account

[Josh Luthman]

I think you're saying you have a rate plan for monthly and another for
annually?

Just do one and use price override.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 7, 2016 11:01 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> yeah, thats what we are currently doing, but it generates 2X the number of
> rate plans and we are modifying our tiers to usage only but need to control
> the speed based on the capability of the equipment and quality of the
> install, it ultimately requires 36 standard rate plans to choose from to
> keep that component centralized rather than per each device or site
> mikrotik. 18 is easier to manage and input since powercode doesnt have a
> way to import rate plans.
>
> Annual billing with discounts has been a powercode PITA since day one, it
> doesnt seem all that complicated a thing
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> I don't have a bunch of prepay accounts like that, but there ones I do I
>> simply negotiate a different rate (like 10% off) and then change the
>> monthly.  Since it's 12 month billing cycle when it runs it does 12xMRC.
>> Then the customers card gets charged or the invoice tells them the annual
>> cost.
>>
>> I can't say it's had any flaws and I can think of a handful of accounts
>> where it's worked, but YMMV.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yes. I even tried clicking on generate initial bill on the new account
>>>
>>> What we have is a 10 dollar discount per month for annual payments that
>>> equates to 120 bucks a year
>>> I have the monthly service set to 39 and a monthly discount set to 10 so
>>> the initial bill should be 29x12 with prepay set to 12, but its just not
>>> happening
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 3 and 4 for billing then 10:30 for delinquency.

 Was the one for the 7th active?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jan 7, 2016 10:40 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I did I had a new account i created and activated that was set for the
> 6th, and another test account set for the 7th, neither processed this
> morning, it happens at like 3 am doesnt it?
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Set it for tomorrow?  It'll run in the morning.
>>
>> I wouldn't go doing it manually, but the pages are in cron...
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 7, 2016 10:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> any of you powercode users know if there is a command to force this?
>>> Im working on our new rates and packages with discounts and 12 month 
>>> prepays
>>> I need to force the test account to run a billing cycle to see what
>>> it generates for a bill, but i dont want it affecting other accounts 
>>> billing
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account

[Josh Luthman]

Maybe wait until packages comes back then?  Also whip them kids into shape.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 7, 2016 11:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> trained monkeys josh, theyre not reliable, everytime a customer changes a
> tier they would have to remember to add back the price override, Half the
> time they cant even get customer paperwork completed before they schedule
> things
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> I think you're saying you have a rate plan for monthly and another for
>> annually?
>>
>> Just do one and use price override.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 7, 2016 11:01 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yeah, thats what we are currently doing, but it generates 2X the number
>>> of rate plans and we are modifying our tiers to usage only but need to
>>> control the speed based on the capability of the equipment and quality of
>>> the install, it ultimately requires 36 standard rate plans to choose from
>>> to keep that component centralized rather than per each device or site
>>> mikrotik. 18 is easier to manage and input since powercode doesnt have a
>>> way to import rate plans.
>>>
>>> Annual billing with discounts has been a powercode PITA since day one,
>>> it doesnt seem all that complicated a thing
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 I don't have a bunch of prepay accounts like that, but there ones I do
 I simply negotiate a different rate (like 10% off) and then change the
 monthly.  Since it's 12 month billing cycle when it runs it does 12xMRC.
 Then the customers card gets charged or the invoice tells them the annual
 cost.

 I can't say it's had any flaws and I can think of a handful of accounts
 where it's worked, but YMMV.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jan 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> yes. I even tried clicking on generate initial bill on the new account
>
> What we have is a 10 dollar discount per month for annual payments
> that equates to 120 bucks a year
> I have the monthly service set to 39 and a monthly discount set to 10
> so the initial bill should be 29x12 with prepay set to 12, but its just 
> not
> happening
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> 3 and 4 for billing then 10:30 for delinquency.
>>
>> Was the one for the 7th active?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 7, 2016 10:40 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I did I had a new account i created and activated that was set for
>>> the 6th, and another test account set for the 7th, neither processed 
>>> this
>>> morning, it happens at like 3 am doesnt it?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Set it for tomorrow?  It'll run in the morning.

 I wouldn't go doing it manually, but the pages are in cron...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jan 7, 2016 10:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> any of you powercode users know if there is a command to force
> this? Im working on our new rates and packages with discounts and 12 
> month
> prepays
> I need to force the test account to run a billing cycle to see
> what it generates for a bill, but i dont want it affecting other 
> accounts
> billing
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the 
> team.
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already 

Re: [AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account

[Josh Luthman]

Maybe, I am in beta...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 7, 2016 11:37 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> I can add, just cant edit or delete
>
> I have a ticket open on it, I guess in the transition that didnt get
> relayed this is purposefully disabled?
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Disabled for editing and adding I thought?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 7, 2016 11:29 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> thats what im working with is packages, theyre all screwed up, you cant
>>> delete anything.
>>>
>>> Are they broken completely? I dont like that you cant limit view able
>>> packages by customer group like you can with services
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Maybe wait until packages comes back then?  Also whip them kids into
 shape.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jan 7, 2016 11:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> trained monkeys josh, theyre not reliable, everytime a customer
> changes a tier they would have to remember to add back the price override,
> Half the time they cant even get customer paperwork completed before they
> schedule things
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> I think you're saying you have a rate plan for monthly and another
>> for annually?
>>
>> Just do one and use price override.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 7, 2016 11:01 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yeah, thats what we are currently doing, but it generates 2X the
>>> number of rate plans and we are modifying our tiers to usage only but 
>>> need
>>> to control the speed based on the capability of the equipment and 
>>> quality
>>> of the install, it ultimately requires 36 standard rate plans to choose
>>> from to keep that component centralized rather than per each device or 
>>> site
>>> mikrotik. 18 is easier to manage and input since powercode doesnt have a
>>> way to import rate plans.
>>>
>>> Annual billing with discounts has been a powercode PITA since day
>>> one, it doesnt seem all that complicated a thing
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 I don't have a bunch of prepay accounts like that, but there ones I
 do I simply negotiate a different rate (like 10% off) and then change 
 the
 monthly.  Since it's 12 month billing cycle when it runs it does 
 12xMRC.
 Then the customers card gets charged or the invoice tells them the 
 annual
 cost.

 I can't say it's had any flaws and I can think of a handful of
 accounts where it's worked, but YMMV.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jan 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> yes. I even tried clicking on generate initial bill on the new
> account
>
> What we have is a 10 dollar discount per month for annual payments
> that equates to 120 bucks a year
> I have the monthly service set to 39 and a monthly discount set to
> 10 so the initial bill should be 29x12 with prepay set to 12, but its 
> just
> not happening
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> 3 and 4 for billing then 10:30 for delinquency.
>>
>> Was the one for the 7th active?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 7, 2016 10:40 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I did I had a new account i created and activated that was set
>>> for the 6th, and another test account set for the 7th, neither 
>>> processed
>>> this morning, it happens at like 3 am doesnt it?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

[Ken Hohhof]

Just going by the spec sheet, that sector is 120 degrees at the 6 dB points 
(109 degrees HPOL).  Plus it is V/H not dual slant.  Plus there is no F/B spec.

If you already have one on the tower, it makes sense to try and use it.  But 
for a new installation, is the difference between 90 and 109 degrees enough to 
worry about?  Or maybe ring up KPP and see if they have something in the 
pipeline that would be 120 degrees at 3 dB, dual slant, good F/B, and maybe 
even with N connectors and a mounting bracket for the 450i AP?


From: Wireless Administrator 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

I’m with you on that.  I spent about 2 weeks in denial before I finally gave 
up.  Maybe someone else here will comment on possibilities.

 

Steve

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:45 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

 

Interesting, I don't have anything to compare the sector we have to (there 
hasn't ever been any other 900mhz on the tower), and the clients are all NLOS, 
so calculations aren't useful, so I can't say that ours is actually working as 
well as it should... but there's no reason why it should work any differently 
with a Canopy radio attached to it than it does with a UBNT radio (unless 
there's a problem with the adapter, of course).

 

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Wireless Administrator  wrote:

Calculated levels and comparison to integrated AP performance.  All three 
sectors had the same issues.  We tried every possible combination even slant 
holding stinger on a 45deg angle.  I was just hoping to hear from someone who 
could explain why or perhaps from someone who got it working.

 

Steve

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 1:57 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

 

6db off compared to what? another sector, or calculated signal levels?

I'm a little concerned about using V/H as well, which is why I opted to go with 
a Cambium sector for our first AP, rather than doing this project now. 
Apparently it does work to mix V/H and slant antennas with PMP450 - Cambium 
confirmed that is the case with 3.65 (the new high gain SM is V/H and the 
sectors are slant), so I'm assuming it will work fine with the 900mhz 450i as 
well... and the Cambium dual slant yagis can easily be converted to V/H as 
well... whether or not it will work as well as slant, probably largely depends 
on the environment it's deployed in.

 

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Wireless Administrator  
wrote:

Mathew,

 

We tried PMP100 and even with one sector and one AP performance was 6db  off 
the expected level.

 

We haven’t implemented 450i-900 yet but would be concerned about V/H vs Dual 
Slant.

 

Steve

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:45 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

 

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work with either setup. If there are 
multiple sectors on a tower, you may run into some issues doing frequency 
re-use, since I don't think the F/B ratio is as good as the Cambium sectors, 
but if you're talking about a single sector, I don't see that there would be 
any issues. 

I am actually planning to upgrade the Ubiquiti 900mhz sector we have to a 450i 
this spring, and re-use the UBNT antenna. 

 

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Wireless Administrator  wrote:

Does anyone have experience trying to use the following antenna with Cambium 
access points?

 

Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

 

Would it work with either a pair of PMP100 AP’s to provide v/h coverage or with 
the new 450 gear in a V/H implementation?

 

Thanks,

Steve

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Procera competitors ?

[Simon Westlake]

Ipoque is another DPI appliance vendor

On 1/7/2016 2:30 PM, Tushar Patel wrote:


Hi,

Who are the procera competitors?

Saisei

Allot,

Sandvine

Anybody else?

People who have deployed other than procera, can you share your 
experience?


Thanks,

Tushar



--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

[AFMUG] American Tower Rep

[Matt Mangriotis]

Hey guys – I am looking to get some answers on tower twist and sway 
specifications and measurements.  Does anyone talk to American Tower or any 
other tower folks regularly?

If you can shoot me an email with contact information (or just reply here), it 
would help me out a great deal.

Appreciate the help.

Matt

Re: [AFMUG] Blocking Tech Savvy person from Porn

[Glen Waldrop]

Works for me.



-Original Message- 
From: Tim Reichhart

Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 1:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Blocking Tech Savvy person from Porn


Rory
that page is 404 :(

-Original Message- 

From: "Rory McCann" 
To: af@afmug.com
Date: 01/07/16 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Blocking Tech Savvy person from Porn

Doesn't have to run on their computer
(https://support.opendns.com/entries/69688114-Mikrotik-WinBox-Dynamic-Update-Script).

You'll want to make sure you have some rules in place to prevent them
from simply inputting alternate DNS servers (ie dst-nat all port 53 to
OpenDNS). OpenDNS only works when you're actually routing queries TO them.

Rory McCann
MKAP Technology Solutions
Web: www.mkap.net

On 1/5/2016 9:50 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
> Philip I know what program your talking about and it only takes one 
> smart kid to remove it.

>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Blocking Tech Savvy person from Porn
> From: "Philip Rankin" 
> To: af 
> Date: 01/06/16 04:33:16am
>
> Not really.  There is a little program that open dns supplies that keeps 
> the network info current with them.  It all works very well.
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Tim Reichhart 
>  wrote:

> Philip that requires an static IP for one customer fyi.
>
> Tim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Philip Rankin" 
> To: af 
> Date: 01/05/16 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Blocking Tech Savvy person from Porn
>
> I have used open dns pretty successfully.
>   On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Josh Luthman 
>  wrote:

> Upsidedownternet :)Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 5, 2016 9:40 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" 
>  wrote:Google 'obfsproxy' , it can be used with a 
> self hosted tor relay or openvpn. Make all your net traffic look like 
> http (not HTTPS) cat jpegs. On Jan 5, 2016 5:30 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
>  wrote:Yup. If you really want to get around VPN 
> blockers, proxies, and things like ssh tunnels... It's really hard when 
> the person you want to block controls both ends of the tunnel. On Jan 4, 
> 2016 3:00 PM, "Eric Kuhnke"  wrote:It takes some 
> fairly deep packet inspection to 'block' an openvpn server running in 
> TCP mode (not the default UDP) on port 443. I have an openvpn instance 
> for just this purpose, in case I get stuck somewhere like a wifi captive 
> portal in an airport lounge behind an overly restrictive firewall.

>
>   On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
> 
> http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2084381/blocking-vpn-students-blocked-websites.html

>
>
> Justin wilsonj...@mtin.net
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEOxISP Solutions- Consulting - Data Centers - 
> Bandwidth

>
>http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman
> On Jan 4, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>   As an ISP why are you wasting your time 'blocking' anything other than 
> standard ACLs like port 139/windows file sharing? It's not your duty or 
> responsibility. If people want to implement their own firewall at their 
> self-owned router/CPE, let them, or if they want to buy some net nanny 
> software for their end point device, that's their responsibility.

>
> An ISP is a pipe.
>
>   On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
> We're dealing with a customer who is trying to block porn from their 
> house. The person who has the 'problem' is tech savvy, and is using VPN 
> Services. Is there any way to block someone like this? I'm guessing any 
> content filtering wouldn't work because the VPN is terminating on the 
> computer behind the router. Any sort of IP or DNS Block they would be 
> able to bypass. Is there any way to stop a tech person from getting what 
> they want? Right now our only thought is to put in like a 10k/s queue on 
> their connection during the overnight hours. Other options?

>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] powercode? force billing to generate on a single account

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

yeah, we had originally cloned the owner so we could edit those down on day
to day management accounts but it turns our powercode clone doesnt full
clone so I have to operate my day to day account as an owner

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Do you have full owners rights?
> On Jan 7, 2016 10:37 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I can add, just cant edit or delete
>>
>> I have a ticket open on it, I guess in the transition that didnt get
>> relayed this is purposefully disabled?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Disabled for editing and adding I thought?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Jan 7, 2016 11:29 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 thats what im working with is packages, theyre all screwed up, you cant
 delete anything.

 Are they broken completely? I dont like that you cant limit view able
 packages by customer group like you can with services

 On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Maybe wait until packages comes back then?  Also whip them kids into
> shape.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 7, 2016 11:10 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> trained monkeys josh, theyre not reliable, everytime a customer
>> changes a tier they would have to remember to add back the price 
>> override,
>> Half the time they cant even get customer paperwork completed before they
>> schedule things
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think you're saying you have a rate plan for monthly and another
>>> for annually?
>>>
>>> Just do one and use price override.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Jan 7, 2016 11:01 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 yeah, thats what we are currently doing, but it generates 2X the
 number of rate plans and we are modifying our tiers to usage only but 
 need
 to control the speed based on the capability of the equipment and 
 quality
 of the install, it ultimately requires 36 standard rate plans to choose
 from to keep that component centralized rather than per each device or 
 site
 mikrotik. 18 is easier to manage and input since powercode doesnt have 
 a
 way to import rate plans.

 Annual billing with discounts has been a powercode PITA since day
 one, it doesnt seem all that complicated a thing

 On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> I don't have a bunch of prepay accounts like that, but there ones
> I do I simply negotiate a different rate (like 10% off) and then 
> change the
> monthly.  Since it's 12 month billing cycle when it runs it does 
> 12xMRC.
> Then the customers card gets charged or the invoice tells them the 
> annual
> cost.
>
> I can't say it's had any flaws and I can think of a handful of
> accounts where it's worked, but YMMV.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 7, 2016 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> yes. I even tried clicking on generate initial bill on the new
>> account
>>
>> What we have is a 10 dollar discount per month for annual
>> payments that equates to 120 bucks a year
>> I have the monthly service set to 39 and a monthly discount set
>> to 10 so the initial bill should be 29x12 with prepay set to 12, but 
>> its
>> just not happening
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 3 and 4 for billing then 10:30 for delinquency.
>>>
>>> Was the one for the 7th active?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Jan 7, 2016 10:40 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I did I had a 

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

[Wireless Administrator]

Calculated levels and comparison to integrated AP performance.  All three 
sectors had the same issues.  We tried every possible combination even slant 
holding stinger on a 45deg angle.  I was just hoping to hear from someone who 
could explain why or perhaps from someone who got it working.

 

Steve

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 1:57 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

 

6db off compared to what? another sector, or calculated signal levels?

I'm a little concerned about using V/H as well, which is why I opted to go with 
a Cambium sector for our first AP, rather than doing this project now. 
Apparently it does work to mix V/H and slant antennas with PMP450 - Cambium 
confirmed that is the case with 3.65 (the new high gain SM is V/H and the 
sectors are slant), so I'm assuming it will work fine with the 900mhz 450i as 
well... and the Cambium dual slant yagis can easily be converted to V/H as 
well... whether or not it will work as well as slant, probably largely depends 
on the environment it's deployed in.

 

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Wireless Administrator  
wrote:

Mathew,

 

We tried PMP100 and even with one sector and one AP performance was 6db  off 
the expected level.

 

We haven’t implemented 450i-900 yet but would be concerned about V/H vs Dual 
Slant.

 

Steve

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:45 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

 

I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work with either setup. If there are 
multiple sectors on a tower, you may run into some issues doing frequency 
re-use, since I don't think the F/B ratio is as good as the Cambium sectors, 
but if you're talking about a single sector, I don't see that there would be 
any issues. 

I am actually planning to upgrade the Ubiquiti 900mhz sector we have to a 450i 
this spring, and re-use the UBNT antenna. 

 

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Wireless Administrator  wrote:

Does anyone have experience trying to use the following antenna with Cambium 
access points?

 

Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120)

 

Would it work with either a pair of PMP100 AP’s to provide v/h coverage or with 
the new 450 gear in a V/H implementation?

 

Thanks,

Steve

 

 

[AFMUG] Karma unlimited

[Harold Bledsoe]

;-)

[image: Karma]
Neverstop
Update

We launched Neverstop two months ago and the usage has blown our minds.

We couldn’t be more excited about your appetite to be online while on the
go. But we were surprised to learn how many of you are also using it
heavily at home. We've seen lots of you binge watch Netflix in HD all day,
back up your hard drives over the internet, and even connect your Xboxes
through ingenious means. It’s a glimpse of how the internet should be, and
we love it… but it's putting a strain on the service and it’s not what the
product is meant for today.​

So, to make sure that Neverstop continues to work seamlessly for as many
people as possible, we have to make some changes to the service. We began
running tests to optimize the service, including lowering speeds. Our
engineers are working hard to find the right balance of always accessible
worry-free internet, at a fair price, so you'll likely see speeds change
over the next few days while we try to fine-tune that balance.

We will continue to get you online so you can do what’s most important to
you when on-the-go: things like email, streaming, and browsing. But, we
need to reduce the extreme usage cases. If you find that Neverstop doesn’t
fit your needs, use our mobile apps to switch to Refuel
,
or head here

for
a refund.

As we figure this out, we want to take into account what is most important
to you as a Neverstop customer. To get your input, we put together a survey

 so you can help us improve Neverstop.

Ultimately our goal is that you never have to worry about getting online
whether you’re at the office, home or the spaces in between. That’s
Neverstop’s future. Today, we will make Neverstop the right solution for
your on-the-go needs.

Thanks,
Steven van Wel

Re: [AFMUG] Karma unlimited

[Darin Steffl]

Ha that is hilarious! I was wondering how long it would take before they
felt the pain of people racking up the hundreds of GB's of usage every
month and driving up Karma's Sprint bill to the point they don't make
money. Apparently didn't take more than a month to feel the pain.



On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Harold Bledsoe  wrote:

> ;-)
>
> [image: Karma]
> Neverstop
> Update
>
> We launched Neverstop two months ago and the usage has blown our minds.
>
> We couldn’t be more excited about your appetite to be online while on the
> go. But we were surprised to learn how many of you are also using it
> heavily at home. We've seen lots of you binge watch Netflix in HD all day,
> back up your hard drives over the internet, and even connect your Xboxes
> through ingenious means. It’s a glimpse of how the internet should be, and
> we love it… but it's putting a strain on the service and it’s not what the
> product is meant for today.​
>
> So, to make sure that Neverstop continues to work seamlessly for as many
> people as possible, we have to make some changes to the service. We began
> running tests to optimize the service, including lowering speeds. Our
> engineers are working hard to find the right balance of always accessible
> worry-free internet, at a fair price, so you'll likely see speeds change
> over the next few days while we try to fine-tune that balance.
>
> We will continue to get you online so you can do what’s most important to
> you when on-the-go: things like email, streaming, and browsing. But, we
> need to reduce the extreme usage cases. If you find that Neverstop doesn’t
> fit your needs, use our mobile apps to switch to Refuel
> ,
> or head here
> 
>  for
> a refund.
>
> As we figure this out, we want to take into account what is most important
> to you as a Neverstop customer. To get your input, we put together a
> survey
> 
>  so you can help us improve Neverstop.
>
> Ultimately our goal is that you never have to worry about getting online
> whether you’re at the office, home or the spaces in between. That’s
> Neverstop’s future. Today, we will make Neverstop the right solution for
> your on-the-go needs.
>
> Thanks,
> Steven van Wel
>
>


-- 
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
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Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video surveillance systems.

[Eric Kuhnke]

VDSL2 DSLAM and modems that operate in bridge mode, or a whole ton of
individual VDSL2 point-to-point bridge pairs.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> I imagine a facility fully wired with Cat5/6 would be rare though one
> could charge to have the cables ran.
>
> That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
>> I would absolutely refuse a wireless solution, a fully enclosed housing
>> with no physical access to the controller. Too much liability and too easy
>> to shut down
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Jay Weekley > > wrote:
>>
>> I suspect the family would be allowed to do it provided there was
>> no facility policy against it.  Then again, I'm thinking worst
>> case scenario if a hacker were to gain access to other patients
>> cameras then things would get rough for the nursing home.
>>
>> Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> For the nursing home to do it, as opposed to allowing the
>> family to do it, now I think you would be contending with
>> HIPAA.  They would probably require it to operate via FAX.
>> *From:* Dennis Burgess > >
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:26 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com  > >
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video
>> surveillance systems.
>>
>> Would be kewl, enter the patient name and room number, to view
>> or something on-line, like a holel get on-line use your last
>> name and room number thing..
>>
>> Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
>>
>> den...@linktechs.net 
>> > –
>> 314-735-0270 x103  –
>> www.linktechs.net 
>> 
>>
>> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Jay Weekley
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2016 6:43 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Selling and installing video
>> surveillance systems.
>>
>> Cameras in the patients room to check on the family member?
>>
>> On January 6, 2016 5:28:23 PM CST, That One Guy /sarcasm
>> 
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>> we may have a lucrative opportunity here in illinois,
>> nursing home
>> residents can now install cameras, as i understand it they
>> have to
>> be instelled by the resident or the poa. A leasing option is a
>> moneymaker
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Jaime Solorza
>> > 
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>> I don't install wireless cameras using WiFiused to
>> install
>> 900 and 5GHz long ago...most of the stuff today I wire up
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390  > >
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:03 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>> > 
>> > >>
>> wrote:
>>
>> and FYI, if youre installing these 2.4 wireless
>> security
>> cameras, youre not installing security cameras
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:02 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>> > 
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>> Here you can do it, you just cant turn on any
>> form of
>> devi ce that connects to emergency services,
>> everything but connect it, just cant connect it.
>>
>> The biggest problem is people see they can get
>> 8-16
>> camera dvr systems often wireless for 2-400 bucks
>> online and want to know why youre wanting 1-2k
>>
>> They always get what they pay for, but thats
>> where the
>> money is at, they get the cheap one and have their
>> nephew install it,