Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
Peter M. Jansson said: >> Compatibility with common apache features would go a long way >> towards wider adoption of AS > > Unless it would speed migration away from AOLserver. I don't see how it would speed the migration.. in fact it would have kept me from moving my stuff away...by adding functionality, especially as an add on module, it increases the likelyhood that someone will not migrate away to -get- that functionality... I love aolserver, I think it is a very stable (for me), fast, powerful server.. I love the tcl being built in.. I love how stuff works with it... but it isn't a "fit" any more... I have grown in my needs to other directions... I still help maintain it at work, most of our work servers run it.. but for some things it doesn't work out.. which is depressing to be honest. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 12:08:38PM +0200, Zoran Vasiljevic wrote: > > Funny that your putting this out :) > > Some years (1, 2?) ago, I was tinkering with the idea of how > to bring DAV (faster) to AS and one of the considerations > was to snap-in Apache-layer and use mod_dav as-is. Musea Technologies has been working on a port of mod_dav to AOLserver. > The fact that Apache is now also going MT would mean > that many mod_x modules will have to be made MT-safe > which could simplify the work. > I'm afraid that we'd need to make some internal changes > in AS C-API, but it would be worth the effort. It would be a good selling point, no doubt. -Roberto -- +|Roberto Mello -http://www.brasileiro.net/ |--+ + Computer Science Graduate Student, Utah State University + + USU Free Software & GNU/Linux Club - http://fslc.usu.edu/ + "Please return stewardess to original upright position" -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
> Compatibility with common apache features would go a long way > towards wider adoption of AS Unless it would speed migration away from AOLserver. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
not that I remember - but most of it (if not all of it is Tcl based so it'd fairly easy to add that) > -Original Message- > From: AOLserver Discussion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Patrick Spence > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 4:04 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead? > > > Does it work using instructions in a .htaccess file? > > - Original Message - > From: "Tim Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:14 AM > Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead? > > > > > > > > > 2: full emulation of mod_rewrite and .htaccess files > > > > > > I know this isn't what you want to hear, but ... if you want Apache, > > > then run Apache. :-) > > > > > > > And the nsrewrite module worked last time I tried! > > > > > > Tim Moss > > SiteSpeed Ltd > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Website:http://www.site-speed.co.uk > > > > This email contains information from SiteSpeed Ltd, which may be > privileged > > or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, be > aware that any > > disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this > information > > is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, > please > > notify us immediately. > > > > > > -- > > AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ > > > > To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the > > body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the > Subject: field of your email blank. > > > -- > AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ > > To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the > body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave > the Subject: field of your email blank. > -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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I am familiar with the concept, I use one Daniel Stasinski wrote.. though when I used AS for my personal site I used the functionality of AS to do the same... but for this particular use (the gallery software), and for similar functionality in other third party software I really need something that is compatible with how Apache does it...rather than having to manually go in and create the URLs each time something changes, or write a filter that processes it all first using Regexp (not my strong suit of programming to say the least)... Compatibility with common apache features would go a long way towards wider adoption of AS - Original Message - From: "Mat Kovach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead? > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:18:01PM -0700, Patrick Spence wrote: > } the main one I am concerned with is a script for subscriptions that > } handles via .htaccess entries.. the next most used set is the rewrite > } stuff done by Gallery (gallery.menalto.com) which is primarily just > } rewrite commands to make friendly URLs out of url encoded ones.. > > I have a tinyurl.com clone written using AOLserver and Postgres > (shouldn't be very hard to port to use about any DB) which does > make "nice" urls (http://myturl.com/software/dist/). I'm working > it into OpenACS ( to provide nice 'Email This Link' for pages). > > The basic functionlity is fairly generic and should be easy to move > into other projects. > > Mat Kovach > > > -- > AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ > > To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the > body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
Does it work using instructions in a .htaccess file? - Original Message - From: "Tim Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead? > > > > > 2: full emulation of mod_rewrite and .htaccess files > > > > I know this isn't what you want to hear, but ... if you want Apache, > > then run Apache. :-) > > > > And the nsrewrite module worked last time I tried! > > > Tim Moss > SiteSpeed Ltd > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Website:http://www.site-speed.co.uk > > This email contains information from SiteSpeed Ltd, which may be privileged > or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any > disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information > is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please > notify us immediately. > > > -- > AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ > > To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the > body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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> I have a tinyurl.com clone written using AOLserver and > Postgres (shouldn't be very hard to port to use about > any DB) which does make "nice" urls Spiffy, I did the same at http://oneweek.org a while back. Never advertised it though, just gave it friends and people here on the list. Daniel P. Stasinski Software Engineer Mayor Pharmaceutical Laboratories [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 10:18:01PM -0700, Patrick Spence wrote: } the main one I am concerned with is a script for subscriptions that } handles via .htaccess entries.. the next most used set is the rewrite } stuff done by Gallery (gallery.menalto.com) which is primarily just } rewrite commands to make friendly URLs out of url encoded ones.. I have a tinyurl.com clone written using AOLserver and Postgres (shouldn't be very hard to port to use about any DB) which does make "nice" urls (http://myturl.com/software/dist/). I'm working it into OpenACS ( to provide nice 'Email This Link' for pages). The basic functionlity is fairly generic and should be easy to move into other projects. Mat Kovach -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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Yes, I am able and willing to do this. I was also taking over as moderator for the core team meetings starting next week, but it appears you and/or Mark now have the time to devote to that role and you have a set of agenda items so I'll step back from that role. /s. On Friday, August 1, 2003, at 09:36 AM, Nathan Folkman wrote: we need an owners for the webdav module and the rest of the modules as well. scott, are you still able and willing to coordinate this effort? it would be nice to have one point person for each module who would coordinate feature requests, track bugs, review code, ect. Dossy wrote: Yes, yes yes! I was thinking of using tDOM as well, that's awesome. That, and David Walker (grax) has also done some work on the nsdav code as well. Perhaps at some point I'll merge everything together, and we'll have something decent. Hey, someone else also announced a WebDAV module on the AOLserver mailing list -- I wonder how far they got with theirs ... -- Nathan Folkman Technical Mgr., AOLserver/NPE/NES Web Services and Publishing -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
we need an owners for the webdav module and the rest of the modules as well. scott, are you still able and willing to coordinate this effort? it would be nice to have one point person for each module who would coordinate feature requests, track bugs, review code, ect. Dossy wrote: > > Yes, yes yes! I was thinking of using tDOM as well, that's awesome. > That, and David Walker (grax) has also done some work on the nsdav code > as well. Perhaps at some point I'll merge everything together, and > we'll have something decent. > > Hey, someone else also announced a WebDAV module on the AOLserver > mailing list -- I wonder how far they got with theirs ... -- Nathan Folkman Technical Mgr., AOLserver/NPE/NES Web Services and Publishing -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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In a message dated 8/1/2003 1:55:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Roberto Mello wrote:> - Readline support for nscp.That would be quite hard, since readline also has to guess the terminaltype and so on.Wouldn't it be much better to write nscp client in Tcl+readline or evenTk. I have a pretty generic ztelnet module, which I use to connect.It's pretty old and nasty, but proved that writing a quite simplesocket/ssl connecting tool is pretty easy. Then adding command history... and things would start working pretty well.Tk could also allow editing multiline commands - using [info complete].I often do nested foreach loops so checking completeness helps me a lot. Yes -- direct readline would be too hard. In fact, it was in there once long ago and was very messy and hard to maintain. A separate app, perhaps a Tk thingy, which communicates with nscp makes a lot of sense. -Jim -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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On 2003.08.01, Nathan Folkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In a message dated 8/1/03 6:08:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I was tinkering with the idea of how > > to bring DAV (faster) to AS > > > which reminds me... ;-) jay and i took dossy's orginal nsdav code and > modified it to use tdom for xml creation and parsing. we'll be > releasing it as soon as we find a few minutes to check the code in. it > doesn't have everything, locking for example, but is very simple and > fast. Yes, yes yes! I was thinking of using tDOM as well, that's awesome. That, and David Walker (grax) has also done some work on the nsdav code as well. Perhaps at some point I'll merge everything together, and we'll have something decent. Hey, someone else also announced a WebDAV module on the AOLserver mailing list -- I wonder how far they got with theirs ... -- Dossy -- Dossy Shiobara mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Panoptic Computer Network web: http://www.panoptic.com/ "He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on." (p. 70) -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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On Friday 01 August 2003 13:19, you wrote: > In a message dated 8/1/03 6:08:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I was tinkering with the idea of how > > to bring DAV (faster) to AS > > which reminds me... ;-) jay and i took dossy's orginal nsdav code and > modified it to use tdom for xml creation and parsing. we'll be releasing it > as soon as we find a few minutes to check the code in. it doesn't have > everything, locking for example, but is very simple and fast. Heh, this news is good news :) Many roads lead to Rome! Zoran -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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In a message dated 8/1/03 6:08:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was tinkering with the idea of how to bring DAV (faster) to AS which reminds me... ;-) jay and i took dossy's orginal nsdav code and modified it to use tdom for xml creation and parsing. we'll be releasing it as soon as we find a few minutes to check the code in. it doesn't have everything, locking for example, but is very simple and fast. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
On Friday 01 August 2003 07:19, you wrote: > Nathan Folkman said: > > perhaps its time to look at what it would take to provide a simple apache > > compatibility layer that would allow apache modules to be used > > (unmodified) > > within aolserver. i've not had time to fully investigate, so this could > > be the > > wrong approach, and maybe wouldn't even be possible or feasible. > Funny that your putting this out :) Some years (1, 2?) ago, I was tinkering with the idea of how to bring DAV (faster) to AS and one of the considerations was to snap-in Apache-layer and use mod_dav as-is. The fact that Apache is now also going MT would mean that many mod_x modules will have to be made MT-safe which could simplify the work. I'm afraid that we'd need to make some internal changes in AS C-API, but it would be worth the effort. Cheers Zoran -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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> > > 2: full emulation of mod_rewrite and .htaccess files > > I know this isn't what you want to hear, but ... if you want Apache, > then run Apache. :-) > And the nsrewrite module worked last time I tried! Tim Moss SiteSpeed Ltd Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:http://www.site-speed.co.uk This email contains information from SiteSpeed Ltd, which may be privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify us immediately. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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Roberto Mello wrote: - Readline support for nscp. That would be quite hard, since readline also has to guess the terminal type and so on. Wouldn't it be much better to write nscp client in Tcl+readline or even Tk. I have a pretty generic ztelnet module, which I use to connect. It's pretty old and nasty, but proved that writing a quite simple socket/ssl connecting tool is pretty easy. Then adding command history ... and things would start working pretty well. Tk could also allow editing multiline commands - using [info complete]. I often do nested foreach loops so checking completeness helps me a lot. -- WK -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
Nathan Folkman said: > perhaps its time to look at what it would take to provide a simple apache > compatibility layer that would allow apache modules to be used > (unmodified) > within aolserver. i've not had time to fully investigate, so this could be > the > wrong approach, and maybe wouldn't even be possible or feasible. > Assuming it isn't too much of a nightmare, I think a compatibility layer/module would go a long way towards getting people using ASthey could experiment with minimal risk or learning curve.. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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Peter M. Jansson said: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Patrick Spence wrote: > >> Using filters is easy enough, I did it when I ran AS.. but I am running >> some third party stuff that is made more capable/powerful with >> mod_rewrite >> and .htaccess... and some other software that requires .htaccess so it >> makes it easier to work with... in other words its not the >> functionality >> that is already there in other ways, but the compatibility that I need. > > Fair enough. I think it's possible to write a mod_rewrite emulation > layer, but I'm very skeptical about .htaccess, unless it's a limited > subset. What .htaccess directives are used? As I wrote earlier, > completely supporting every possible .htaccess directive would require a > lot of work and would fundamentally change the way AOLserver works. the main one I am concerned with is a script for subscriptions that handles via .htaccess entries.. the next most used set is the rewrite stuff done by Gallery (gallery.menalto.com) which is primarily just rewrite commands to make friendly URLs out of url encoded ones.. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
In a message dated 7/31/03 8:30:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm in strong agreement. There's a lot in .htaccess that's fundamental Apache architecture (AddHandler in a .htaccess file, for example -- that just won't work with AOLserver as it stands, and the changes would go a long way toward turning it into Apache). Now, if all you really want is perms stuff, that's more manageable, but still requires a new perms module in AOLserver. mod_rewrite I imagine could be done, but could probably be done as easily in a filter. perhaps its time to look at what it would take to provide a simple apache compatibility layer that would allow apache modules to be used (unmodified) within aolserver. i've not had time to fully investigate, so this could be the wrong approach, and maybe wouldn't even be possible or feasible. in other news... stay tuned for updates from us on: - new additions to my team - status of aolserver 4.0 gm - status of aolserver docs - aolserver/tomcat integration roadmap - aolserver and nss/nspr - open sourcing of art blaster code - aolserver 4.x roadmap sorry i haven't been around in the last month. lots of good things happening! expect to see more of me now that we are almost finished with aol 9.0 optimized. - nathan -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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In a message dated 7/31/03 8:28:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, I don't think we really need full readline/ncurses in nscp. I think just line editing capabilities (cursor forward, backwards, start of line, end of line) would be a big win at this point. Considering how "standard" VT100 is these days, we could just support that and pretend like all other terminal types don't really exist ... ;-) -- Dossy suggest you approach this as a new nscp++ module that could include all of these great ideas and more. goal going forward for aolserver core code is to keep as tight and simple as possible. no reason someone couldn't write a new nscp module that others could load in instead of the standard aolserver nscp. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Patrick Spence wrote: > Using filters is easy enough, I did it when I ran AS.. but I am running > some third party stuff that is made more capable/powerful with mod_rewrite > and .htaccess... and some other software that requires .htaccess so it > makes it easier to work with... in other words its not the functionality > that is already there in other ways, but the compatibility that I need. Fair enough. I think it's possible to write a mod_rewrite emulation layer, but I'm very skeptical about .htaccess, unless it's a limited subset. What .htaccess directives are used? As I wrote earlier, completely supporting every possible .htaccess directive would require a lot of work and would fundamentally change the way AOLserver works. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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Peter M. Jansson said: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Dossy wrote: > >> > 2: full emulation of mod_rewrite and .htaccess files >> >> I know this isn't what you want to hear, but ... if you want Apache, >> then run Apache. :-) > > I'm in strong agreement. There's a lot in .htaccess that's fundamental > Apache architecture (AddHandler in a .htaccess file, for example -- that > just won't work with AOLserver as it stands, and the changes would go a > long way toward turning it into Apache). Now, if all you really want is > perms stuff, that's more manageable, but still requires a new perms module > in AOLserver. mod_rewrite I imagine could be done, but could probably be > done as easily in a filter. Using filters is easy enough, I did it when I ran AS.. but I am running some third party stuff that is made more capable/powerful with mod_rewrite and .htaccess... and some other software that requires .htaccess so it makes it easier to work with... in other words its not the functionality that is already there in other ways, but the compatibility that I need. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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Dossy said: >> 1: A better solution for virtual hosting >> a: I don't have to run multiple instances of aolserver >> b: the Pageroot variable is updated correctly so scripting >> in languages like php can handle virtual hosting >> c: logging to seperate files for each virtual server > > Have you tried virtual servers in AOLserver 4.0 yet? Not yet, I haven't had the time to set up another machine to play with yet.. ;) >> 2: full emulation of mod_rewrite and .htaccess files > > I know this isn't what you want to hear, but ... if you want Apache, > then run Apache. :-) Guess what I am running? :) Apache.. I stopped running AOLserver on my personal machine a few months back... for those two requirements.. it makes it easier for me.. though I will play with AS4 sometime soon to see if it can do the virtual server stuff as well for me.. ;) It was using Apache that gave me exposure to the htaccess and mod_rewrite.. and they are very nice tools.. But I would rather have Aolserver for the speed and inbuit tcl.. :) -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Dossy wrote: > > 2: full emulation of mod_rewrite and .htaccess files > > I know this isn't what you want to hear, but ... if you want Apache, > then run Apache. :-) I'm in strong agreement. There's a lot in .htaccess that's fundamental Apache architecture (AddHandler in a .htaccess file, for example -- that just won't work with AOLserver as it stands, and the changes would go a long way toward turning it into Apache). Now, if all you really want is perms stuff, that's more manageable, but still requires a new perms module in AOLserver. mod_rewrite I imagine could be done, but could probably be done as easily in a filter. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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On 2003.07.31, Brett Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is already a tclreadline binding. > http://tclreadline.sourceforge.net It'd be great except TclReadlineCmd calls Tcl_CreateFileHandler(0, ...) for stdin. If you could pass it the input and output fd's, that'd be perfect ... Maybe I'll submit a patch ... or, (read below) > I think there was another lib similar to readline, but > not GPL that someone was going to work on as well, but > I forget who it was Yeah, I don't think we really need full readline/ncurses in nscp. I think just line editing capabilities (cursor forward, backwards, start of line, end of line) would be a big win at this point. Considering how "standard" VT100 is these days, we could just support that and pretend like all other terminal types don't really exist ... ;-) -- Dossy -- Dossy Shiobara mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Panoptic Computer Network web: http://www.panoptic.com/ "He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on." (p. 70) -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
On 2003.07.31, Patrick Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Dossy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > - What's your single biggest gripe about AOLserver? If you could have > > one thing changed or fixed, what would it be? > > There ya go, limiting it to ONE thing.. :) but I am difficult, and never > listen anyways... > > 1: A better solution for virtual hosting > a: I don't have to run multiple instances of aolserver > b: the Pageroot variable is updated correctly so scripting > in languages like php can handle virtual hosting > c: logging to seperate files for each virtual server Have you tried virtual servers in AOLserver 4.0 yet? > 2: full emulation of mod_rewrite and .htaccess files I know this isn't what you want to hear, but ... if you want Apache, then run Apache. :-) -- Dossy -- Dossy Shiobara mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Panoptic Computer Network web: http://www.panoptic.com/ "He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on." (p. 70) -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
> Lately, I've been thinking of switching to tclsh as > my login shell (yes, > I'm a nut) and I've heard from other folks that > they'd like readline > support in nscp ... so, I wonder ... what might it > take for something > like "package require readline" to work. So, if you > really want > readline support in nscp, you'd just connect, then > issue "package > require readline" and off you go. > > Okay, so maybe that idea is half-baked. But, if > people don't mind > linking nscp against libreadline, I'd be happy to > work on putting > readline support into nscp since I know almost > everybody wants it. > There is already a tclreadline binding. http://tclreadline.sourceforge.net I think there was another lib similar to readline, but not GPL that someone was going to work on as well, but I forget who it was --brett __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
On 2003.07.31, Roberto Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - What's your single biggest gripe about AOLserver? If you could have
> > one thing changed or fixed, what would it be?
>
> - Readline support for nscp.
Lately, I've been thinking of switching to tclsh as my login shell (yes,
I'm a nut) and I've heard from other folks that they'd like readline
support in nscp ... so, I wonder ... what might it take for something
like "package require readline" to work. So, if you really want
readline support in nscp, you'd just connect, then issue "package
require readline" and off you go.
Okay, so maybe that idea is half-baked. But, if people don't mind
linking nscp against libreadline, I'd be happy to work on putting
readline support into nscp since I know almost everybody wants it.
> - Examples of how to setup virtual servers.
Have you looked at the following URL:
http://panoptic.com/wiki/aolserver/VirtualHosting
Criticisms? Shortcomings? Confusing parts?
(I'd love to gradually evolve the content on that page into something
that satisfies most people's desire for "virtual server/virtual hosting
documentation" but I can't do it without the necessary feedback from the
audience ...)
> - Good Debian packages with nice start/stop scripts (working on it)
This isn't too hard. Has the aolserver packages officially been
orphaned yet, or is Brian (or was it Bryan) still maintainer?
> - How to use libnsd to embed AOLserver in my own projects.
Is this more complicated than embedding Tcl and then Tcl_Eval("load
libnsd.so") ... ? Or am I misunderstanding what you're asking for,
here?
> - An SQLite driver (hopefully I'll get that working soon).
Isn't Zoran working on this?
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Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
On Friday, August 1, 2003, at 07:54 AM, Rob Mayoff wrote: +-- On Jul 31, Roberto Mello said: | - Readline support for nscp. You could just get a better client program. For example, connecting to nscp from inside Emacs can give you editing and history support. If you have a separate program that puts readline on top of a TCP connection, you can use it for things besides nscp, like testing HTTP and SMTP connections. for this I'd suggest socat (http://www.dest-unreach.org/socat/)... it rocks... example uses here - http://www.dest-unreach.org/socat/doc/socat.html#EXAMPLES -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
+-- On Jul 31, Roberto Mello said: | - Readline support for nscp. You could just get a better client program. For example, connecting to nscp from inside Emacs can give you editing and history support. If you have a separate program that puts readline on top of a TCP connection, you can use it for things besides nscp, like testing HTTP and SMTP connections. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
I am glad to hear someone is working on Debian packages, as I am getting ready to install Aolserver on a Debian server. On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 02:53:36PM -0600, Roberto Mello wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 03:44:12PM -0400, Dossy wrote: > > Are the weekly chats officially dead? I know Nate is extraordinarily > > busy right now (well, aren't we all) but we could still get on the chat > > every week or every other week without him. > > Indeed! > > > Of course, it helps to have something to talk about and something worth > > talking about ... so why don't I throw some suggestions out there: > > > > - Who has tried 4.0 beta? Who is running 4.0 beta in a non-production > > environment? Who is actually running it in production? > > I've been running it in development and I am really pleased. > > > - What's your single biggest gripe about AOLserver? If you could have > > one thing changed or fixed, what would it be? > > - Readline support for nscp. > - Examples of how to setup virtual servers. > - Good Debian packages with nice start/stop scripts (working on it) > - How to use libnsd to embed AOLserver in my own projects. > - An SQLite driver (hopefully I'll get that working soon). > > -Roberto > > -- > +|Roberto Mello -http://www.brasileiro.net/ |--+ > + Computer Science Graduate Student, Utah State University + > + USU Free Software & GNU/Linux Club - http://fslc.usu.edu/ + > If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. > > > -- > AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ > > To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with > the > body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field > of your email blank. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 03:44:12PM -0400, Dossy wrote: > Are the weekly chats officially dead? I know Nate is extraordinarily > busy right now (well, aren't we all) but we could still get on the chat > every week or every other week without him. Indeed! > Of course, it helps to have something to talk about and something worth > talking about ... so why don't I throw some suggestions out there: > > - Who has tried 4.0 beta? Who is running 4.0 beta in a non-production > environment? Who is actually running it in production? I've been running it in development and I am really pleased. > - What's your single biggest gripe about AOLserver? If you could have > one thing changed or fixed, what would it be? - Readline support for nscp. - Examples of how to setup virtual servers. - Good Debian packages with nice start/stop scripts (working on it) - How to use libnsd to embed AOLserver in my own projects. - An SQLite driver (hopefully I'll get that working soon). -Roberto -- +|Roberto Mello -http://www.brasileiro.net/ |--+ + Computer Science Graduate Student, Utah State University + + USU Free Software & GNU/Linux Club - http://fslc.usu.edu/ + If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny. -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
Re: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead?
- Original Message - From: "Dossy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: [AOLSERVER] Are the weekly chats officially dead? > Are the weekly chats officially dead? I know Nate is extraordinarily > busy right now (well, aren't we all) but we could still get on the chat > every week or every other week without him. > > Of course, it helps to have something to talk about and something worth > talking about ... so why don't I throw some suggestions out there: > > - Who has tried 4.0 beta? Who is running 4.0 beta in a non-production > environment? Who is actually running it in production? > > - What's your single biggest gripe about AOLserver? If you could have > one thing changed or fixed, what would it be? There ya go, limiting it to ONE thing.. :) but I am difficult, and never listen anyways... 1: A better solution for virtual hosting a: I don't have to run multiple instances of aolserver b: the Pageroot variable is updated correctly so scripting in languages like php can handle virtual hosting c: logging to seperate files for each virtual server 2: full emulation of mod_rewrite and .htaccess files -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
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- What's your single biggest gripe about AOLserver? If you could haveone thing changed or fixed, what would it be? I discovered this in the last few days. If I instant message someone a URL pointing to an image, it never gets logged in the access log. Perhaps it's something to do with nsvhr/nsunix, I'm not sure, but it is annoying. Daniel P. Stasinski Software Engineer Mayor Pharmaceutical Laboratories [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
