[arr] Re: NORTH AMERICAN LEG OF JAI HO TOUR RESCHEDULED

[kaissiom]

No!

What a bummmer! I moved my vacation dates to India to be able to attend this 
concert. :(

Thank God, AR and team is fine.  Inshallah, it will happen when it's supposed 
to happen.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "A.R.Rajib"  wrote:
>
> *NORTH AMERICAN LEG OF JAI HO TOUR RESCHEDULED*
> 
> 
> *Statement from A. R. Rahman:*
> 
> Dear friends, fans and well-wishers,
> 
> As you may know, members of our tour miraculously escaped a big disaster in
> Detroit this past Saturday, when part of the Pontiac Silverdome
> infrastructure collapsed on our set. All the artists, singers, musicians,
> dancers, technicians (myself included) have been almost given a second
> life.
> 
> We are working to recoup all that has been lost (the lights, the sets) which
> will take us over three weeks to complete. The vision for the show includes
> beautiful choreography and circus acts and it feels less than, not to
> include them. All the world over, the show has received a very positive
> response from those who have seen it, which makes it absolutely necessary
> for us to present a complete show and feature all the components that were
> lost due to the incident.
> 
> With that, we have decided to postpone the remaining dates of the North
> American leg of this tour and will reschedule them at a later date. We will
> go ahead with the concerts scheduled in Europe and UK. That is the best
> option we have, considering the circumstances.
> 
> 
> While I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused our friends in
> the U.S. and Canada, maybe it's a blessing in disguise, as we will have the
> opportunity to perform for you with even more energy and perfection.
> 
> Once again, let us all pray that we are alive and thank you in advance for
> your understanding, love and cooperation.
> 
> With deep respect and love,
> 
> A. R. Rahman
> JAI HO to everyone
> 
> Update on AR Rahman U.S. Tour Dates:
> 
> 
> AR Rahman was forced to cancel his June 19th show in Detroit due to an
> infrastructure collapse at The Pontiac Silverdome which damaged the set. The
> incident occurred during stage construction. No one was seriously injured.
> All remaining dates for the North American leg will be rescheduled due to
> the incident. The tour will resume on July 16th in Zurich. Mr. Rahman
> regrets any inconvenience this causes his fans and is deeply grateful no one
> from his team or the local Detroit stage crew was seriously injured.
> 
> *FAQs*
> 
> *Q: What U.S./ Canada dates have been postponed and will be rescheduled?*
> 
> 
> June 19, 2010, Saturday: Detroit, MI (Pontiac Silverdome)
> June 20, 2010, Sunday: Toronto, ON (Air Canada Centre)
> June 26, 2010, Saturday: San Francisco, CA (Oracle Arena)
> June 27, 2010, Sunday: Los Angeles, CA (The Forum)
> June 30, 2010, Wednesday: Vancouver, BC (PNE Collesium)
> July 3, 2010, Saturday: Houston, TX (Toyota Center)
> July 4, 2010, Sunday: Dallas, TX (American Airlines Center)
> July 9, 2010, Friday: Boston, MA (Tsongas Center)
> July 10, 2010, Saturday: Trenton, NJ (Sun National Bank Center)
> July 11, 2010, Sunday: Raleigh, NC (RBC Center)
> 
> *Q: When will the tour resume?*
> The tour will resume in Zurich on July 16th.
> 
> *Q: Have the European dates been affected?*
> No European dates will be affected by this incident. They will remain as
> scheduled.
> 
> 
> *Q: When will new dates be announced?*
> We are still in the process of rescheduling the tour, but we hope to
> announce the new dates in the coming weeks. The dates will be rescheduled
> for after the European leg of the tour.
> 
> *Q: Where can I refund my tickets?*
> This information will be announced soon. Please check back for details.
> 
> 
> http://www.arrahman.com/v2/news/news-198.html
> -- 
> - Regards
> 
> ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
>

[arr] Chupke Se - Karaoke

[kaissiom]

I keep getting requests for this song, seems like the old link is dead..
here's a new one...
   

   
 
<%20http://www.filedropper.com/saathiya-karaoke-chupkese>
http://www.filedropper.com/saathiya-karaoke-chupkese 

[arr] Here's an interesting find...

[kaissiom]

Play this game.. up to Level 3.  Make sure your speakers are on.

http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/hamu

[arr] Re: Right headphones holds the key!

[kaissiom]

This was discussed a few months ago:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/message/125880


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, anvesh  wrote:
>
> I wouldnt say they are worth the money, atleast thats the general
opinion of
> people.
> But there is no denying that they are awesome.
>
> you might probably get better headphones with the same money. but the
reason
> i opted for bose is that, you find a service center everywhere these
days.
> may not be the same case with the other stuff. And with headphones you
never
> know, it would hurt to see them just lying there after spending so
much.
>
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:08 AM, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 5/4/2010 1:48 AM India Time, _anvesh_ wrote:
> >
> > > refused to listen to raavan until i had my bose on ear headphones.
> > > bought the cd. bought the headphones. its been magical since then.
been
> > > visiting all the oldies as well.
> >
> > I have heard that Bose costs kings ransom.
> >
> > how much lighter it made you?
> >
> > --
> > Rawat
> >
> >
>

[arr] Re: Non ARR: general software query

[kaissiom]

If you really like Winamp and want to stick to it, then get yourself Winamp 5 
or higher... I believe it has a 3 option toggle for Repeat button:
1st click - repeat all
2nd click - repeat one
3rd click - repeat off

Also, you can select a song and press 'Q' to queue songs from the playlist.. 
this will play song in the order you like.

Regards


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat  wrote:
>
> I have winamp 2.8, that repeats entire playlist. Sometimes I would 
> like to repeat only a single song instead of 5-6 songs of an ARR album 
> that I had put in the playlist, but winamp doesn't allow me to do so. 
> I have to delete all other songs from the playlist and again load them 
> when i want them all to get played.
> 
> Any free music player software you know about, that allows me to 
> repeat the entire playment sometime as well allow to repeat a single 
> song in a playlist. I have GOM player also as someone had suggested in 
> this group, and vlc also, but haven't explored whether they have this 
> feature that I need.
> 
> Thanks.
> --
> Rawatt
>

[arr] Re: Jai Ho concert - Los Angeles - Jun 27th 2010

[kaissiom]

Count me in! Would be great to meet some group members...

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "badrie"  wrote:
>
> Is anyone from the group attending, I have booked the tickets..would be nice 
> to see some fellow members.
>

[arr] Interludes of Thok De Killi

[kaissiom]

Hooked on Thok De Killi... the two interludes of this song are just 
"WOW"...Rahman signature

[arr] Re: Usual sequence of events just prior to a new ARR release

[kaissiom]

Spot on AJ! lol :) Also add the part where people ask for good quality mp3 
download links.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "AJ"  wrote:
>
> I think this is the order of things before a new ARR album:
> 
> 1) Tentative date of music release appears online in the media. everyone 
> is excited, yippee, hooray, can't waitetc. etc.
> 
> 2) First promo is released.  ARR fans download the audio portion 
> everywhere..play it in their ipods, their cars, their super stereos, even if 
> the clip is 20 seconds in bad sound..but it's new ARR music...  
> Discussions abound.is it good?  ARR skeptics and naysayers chime 
> in.."I'm very disappointedalbum will be badwhat is ARR 
> thinking"  
> 
> 3) Some funny person named Gopal in this group releases a fake track list and 
> half of all ARR fans everywhere believe it.
> 
> 4) Music release date comes.people go to the stores to ask about the 
> CD...but no CD and store people give them funny lookseven claiming 
> never having heard of the film.disappointing trip back home.  Where's the 
> CD?  I thought it was going to release today!  Huh?  What's going on???  
> Chaos, questions, uncertainty..
> 
> 5) New music date announced in media!  Is it true?  What's the source?  Can 
> we trust it???  Yes, this time it's for real!  
> 
> 4) THE REAL track listing is provided by Gopal and posted on the official AR 
> websiteexcitement builds, tensions mountAR fans starting to 
> drool..
> 
> 5) New music release date comes.people flock to stores, wait anxiously on 
> the computers searching download sites...but.where's the music?  
> Where's the CD?  What's going on?  ARREY YAAR...KYA HORA HAI??? 
> "Music was supposed to release today"  Realization sets in that the 
> launch function was set for the day, but CDs will take time to come out, 
> another 2 weeks, due to T-series screwing up something.  
> 
> 6) Another music release date comes out by T-series.AR fans everywhere 
> very apprehensive...but willing to wait..wait...wait.waitthe 
> waiting gets harder everyday.. Will T series deliver?
> 
> 7)Another promo is releaseda new songsomething to chew on while we 
> wait for the feast...more discussions, more analyses, more 
> downloads.more doubts."this doesn't sound like ARR...album will 
> flop..I don't have a good feeling about this...etc. etc."  People on this 
> group tell these people to shut up and not judge a whole album just by the 
> clips (but inside, they're worried)
> 
> 8) T series release date is changed again the day before the expected release 
> date due to problems in packaging and distribution.AR fans everywhere 
> curse T series, calling it bad names, asking why AR albums releases are 
> always botched up and why always with T series...  Notable AR fans start to 
> make calls to T series people demanding an explanation and a true release 
> date.  Multiple release dates are subsequently announced and mass confusion, 
> frustration, chaos among AR fans developswhich is the real date?  Huh?  
> Should I go to the music store that morning or not??   
> 
> 9) Out of the blue, the album releases unexpectedly while people are 
> frustrated and confused.  Downloading begins everywhere while AR fans urge 
> other AR fans to not download and wait to buy the CD.
> 
> 10) Discussions, reviews, analyses, opinions all come flooding out after 
> hearing the album with at least one person saying the music is a complete 
> disappointment. 
> 
> .and a whole other chapter within the AR Rahman journey begins
>

[arr] Re: Who are all attending LA concert?

[kaissiom]

That's the weekend I will be leaving for India.  
ARR vs. Trip to India?  
I may have to change the dates for my trip now :(

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Satheesh Punniamurthy  
wrote:
>
> Friends,
> I booked my tickets for ARR Jai Ho concert @ The Forum, Los Angeles, CA. Who 
> are all from is here is attending at that venue? Let's get together and have 
> a great time. :)
> 
> Thanks
> Satheesh 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>

[arr] Re: It's a quarter century

[kaissiom]

Congratulations to Rahman for yet another award!  He must be so used to it by 
now :)

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan  wrote:
>
> ARR wins Best Music for Delhi 6 at the Filmfare Awards -
> - Live from Vijay at the ceremony
>

[arr] Re: Filmfare Awards 2010 Nominations (Music)

[kaissiom]

When is Rahman going to win the Best Playback Singer category?

We had our best bet with Khwaja Ji last year, which I thought Rahman truly 
deserved to win.  I hoped he would at least get nominated for Rehna Tu, but 
Alas! Maybe in future.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Rivjot"  wrote:
>
> Best Music
> 
> A R Rahman - Delhi-6
> Amit Trivedi - Dev D
> Pritam Chakraborty - Ajab Prem Ki Ghazab Kahani
> Pritam Chakraborty - Love Aaj Kal
> Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy - Wake Up Sid
> Vishal Bharadwaj - Kaminey
> 
> Best Lyrics
> 
> Gulzar - Kaminey - (Kaminey)
> Gulzar - Dhan Te Nan - (Kaminey)
> Irshad Kamil - Aaj Din Candya - (Love Aaj Kal)
> Javed Akhtar - Iktara - (Wake Up Sid)
> Prasoon Joshi - Masakali - (Delhi-6)
> Prasoon Joshi - Rehna Tu - (Delhi-6)
> 
> Best Playback Singer - Male
> 
> Atif Aslam - Tu Jaane Na - (Ajab Prem Ki Ghazab Kahani)
> Javed Ali-Kailash Kher - Arziyan - (Delhi-6)
> Mohit Chauhan - Masakali - (Delhi-6)
> Rahat Fateh Ali Khan - Aaj Din Chadheya - (Love Aaj Kal)
> Sonu Niigaan-Salim Merchant - Shukran Allah - (Kurbaan)
> Sukhwinder Singh-Vishal Dadlani - Dhan Te Nan - (Kaminey)
> 
> Best Playback Singer - Female
> 
> Alisha Chinoy - Tera Hone Laga - (Ajab Prem Ki Ghazab Kahani)
> Kavita Seth - Iktara - (Wake Up Sid)
> Rekha Bhardwaj - Genda Phool - (Delhi-6)
> Shilpa Rao - Mudi Mudi - (Paa)
> Shreya Ghoshal - Zoobi Doobi - (3 Idiots)
> Sunidhi Chauhan - Chor Bazaari - (Love Aaj Kal)
> 
> This one is official - 
> http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/features/2010/02/11/5949/index.html
> 
> Go Delhi-6!!! Sweep every category!!
>

[arr] Re: Double double-bill?

[kaissiom]

Uparwala jab bhi deta hai to chappar phaad ke deta hai!  Rahman is a blessed 
soul!

I'm glad I no longer have to explain to people why I'm a Rahmaniac.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan  wrote:
>
> Has any one else won two Grammys and two Oscars each?
>

[arr] Happy Birthday Rahman sir!

[kaissiom]

Many happy returns of the day.. may Allah bless you in health, wealth and 
Imaan, may Allah bless you with peace, prosperity and happiness.  Ameen!

[arr] Re: "'Jai Ho' is from Ramayan to Rahman; I will take no credit for it" - Gulzar

[kaissiom]

Wait, I thought it was Subhash Ghai who had come with the "Jai Ho" hook for 
Yuvraaj(may be for Shano), but it wasn't used for Yuvraaj.  And then Rahman 
used it for Slumdog and even gave credit to Subhash Ghai for the two words "Jai 
Ho".  This was all in Rahman interviews, post Oscars.  If this Subash Ghai 
involvement is true then it makes sense for Gulzar sahab to not take credit for 
"Jai Ho", but for the rest of the song lyrics.  Credit where it belongs...

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur  wrote:
>
> "'Jai Ho' is from Ramayan to Rahman; I will take no credit for it" -
> Gulzar [image:
> Click here to add this article to My
> Clips]
> 
> From the Ramayan to Rahman, that's the journey that according to Gulzar
> saab, the phrase '*Jai
> Ho*'
> has made. "It's not as if I coined it on the spot for *Slumdog Millionaire*,"
> says Gulzar saab after hearing that '*Jai Ho*' has been nominated on
> Thursday in prestigious category of 'Best Song Written For A Motion Picture'
> at the Grammys.
> 
> "'*Jai Ho*' is a term that is as ancient as it is sacrosanct. I would sound
> extremely foolish if I took any credit for that phrase or for the success of
> that song. The entire credit must go to Rahman and Rahman alone. He has
> taken our popular sounds to an international level."
> 
> On hearing of his song '*Jai Ho*' being nominated for the coveted Grammy,
> the song's writer Gulzar saab makes a startling observation and suggestion.
> "Both me and Rahman have done work that has been like before. What makes '*Jai
> Ho*' special was that it was part of a non-Indian film. *Slumdog Millionaire
> * is not an Indian film. Just like *Gandhi* was not. We need to understand
> that international recognition comes to us when India is packaged into a
> non-Indian vehicle. Slumdog Millionaire could vie for mainstream American
> and European awards because it was an international film. Otherwise our
> films like *Neecha Nagar, Mother India, Do Beegha Zameen* and the films of
> Mrinal Sen and Satyajit Ray have been nominated in the 'foreign'
> categories." Gulzar saab has a suggestion. "Let's have a category for best
> foreign cinema in our National awards so that we too have a chance to
> recognize films made outside India."
> 
> As for '*Jai Ho*' acquiring a life much longer than the film, Gulzar saab
> says, "When I wrote '*Jai Ho*' I was looking for a phrase that would best
> represent Indian sentiments. That it's now gone from the Oscars where movies
> are honoured, to the Grammys where music gets recognized, is an amazing
> journey for '*Jai Ho*'. Like I said it's from the Ramayan to Rahman. I will
> take no credit for it."
> http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/features/2009/12/07/5753/
> -- 
> regards,
> Vithur
>

[arr] Re: [non arr] - Imogen Heap anyone??

[kaissiom]

Yep, listen to her 'Mic Check', you'll be amazed!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, || V i s h w e s h ||  
wrote:
>
> Sorry for the lengthy 'non-arr' mail... I don't know how many of you know abt 
> her, but I really felt like sharing this here so that those who don't know 
> about her should get to know & hear this amazing artist! I also found quiet a 
> few similarities between her & AR's musical styles! Just like AR, she is 
> quiet a innovator in using different instruments & sounds & mixing various 
> genres. She owns a very unique & emotive voice. She is a whiz in using 
> technology & I personally found her songs & music very personal, emotional, 
> rich, elegant, complex, catchy, crisp, rocking, melodious, fresh, haunting, 
> beautiful etc etc... all those very things which we've been saying abt AR's 
> music for years n years...
> 
> So here I go... A
> month ago, while watching one Heroes episode, I heard something very 
> interesting & quiet catchy, which they used as a BGM, & I had to find out 
> what it was & who was responsible for it!! After some
> googling, I found out that the song is called Bad Body Double & it's by 
> someone named Imogen Heap! What strange name
> I though! But when I found out more about her & listened to some more
> of her music, I immediately became a fan!
> She is one amazingly talented lady I must say! & quiet a weirdo too! She 
> sings, she composes, she
> writes her own lyrics, she plays all kind of musical instruments & by 
> combining
> all that, she records almost all her songs by herself, in her own little 
> studio! The way she uses herunique voice with various instruments & sounds is 
> simply brilliant & the outcome is very very addictive! I'm so hooked to her 
> songs from these last few weeks that even AR's songs are finding it hard to 
> get into my playlist! :-)Here are few of my favs of her: listen in HQ pls!
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXj0dF7LAyE
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cpSv2mNhhc
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0-LC2vyge4
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR_heGRfwe0
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MYa0_3Py6U
> 
> & here you can watch her, recreating her own composition in a live show! 
> Watching her creating it on the fly is just amazing to watch!
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dJ1VhXj9IM
> 
> Thanx & regards,
> Vishwesh.
> 
> 
> 
> " The search is more important than the destination "
> - a r rahman -
> 
> 
>  The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage.
> 
> 
>   Yahoo! India has a new look. Take a sneak peek 
> http://in.yahoo.com/trynew
>

[arr] Just watched Couples Retreat!

[kaissiom]

So, I went to the local theatres at the earliest convenience to catch this 
flick.

The movie: It's okay, I had a few good laughs, but nothing great.  The content 
is for mature audience really.  I'm surprised this movie is PG-13, it should 
really be R.

The music: Well, given that this is a comedy movie, the music should not be 
taken too seriously.  Music in these comedy movies just plays in the 
background, without getting too involved in the movie.  And that is exactly the 
treatment it's received here.  Although, Rahman's tracks have been used 
throughout the movie, the movie contains various other tracks not featured on 
the Soundtrack.

The good:
-Rahman's first Hollywood venture :)
-Music used at some prominent places

The bad:
-Rahman's music is not the only music in the movie
-Movie doesn't start with Rahman's music
-Sajna, the song, is not featured in the movie, although, the theme can be heard
-Kurukuru is not featured in the movie, bits can be heard here and there
-Nana is featured in the movie, and also for the end credits

Sure, from above, you can see that there's more bad than good, but I'm not 
disappointed.  I'm glad I'm finally able to walk into any records store here in 
LA and pick up a soundtrack by Rahman and that I can hear Rahman's music in a 
Hollywood movie. 

Looking forward to more Hollywood ventures and some amazing soundtracks by 
Rahman in the future!

Regards,
Wasim

Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group?

[kaissiom]

Great info WB,

And if I may add my 2 cents:

Don't ever buy those MonsterCables - it's a scam!

I have been collecting quality headphones/audio equipment, and from my
personal experience I can say that in my opinion Bose is overrated. I
have couple of Bose headphones (+ Bose HomeTheater) and they are great
at reproducing bass, but they really compromise in reproducing mids &
highs. So, if I really want to emphasize on bass, I listen to it on
Bose, but my $70 Aiwa HP-AK100, which I have for regular use,
outperforms Bose in other areas.

I also prefer Sennheiser over Bose. Just the fact that Bose doesn't
even disclose their frequency ranges/specification is really
frustrating because you can't compare Bose with other headphones based
on specs.

But it really comes down to personal preference and your "ear for
detail".

If you are really in the market to buy Bose headphones, I recommend
you consider these as well:

1. Bang & Olufson A8 earphones:
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=46


2. Sennheiser HD 595:
   

http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/05343


3. Etymotic ER.4:
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er4.aspx


And if you can shell out more money for the headphones...then these:

1. Shure E500:
http://www.shure.com/PersonalAudio/Products/Earphones/SEModels/us_pa_se5\
30_conte\
nt


2. Denon AH-D5000:
http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3456.asp



Also remember, if the source is not high quality, these headphones won't
help much.

Regards


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "wiredbeats ." 
wrote:
>
>
> hey!
> i don't know about all that. Just that i am a huge fan of headphones
and i try and collect some rare or some sorta expensive ones. But in
audio stuff expensive does not mean good!..there are some basic ipod
headphones for even 1000 rupees by sennheiser that are damn cool, esply
the bass response. Try it or try 'JBL reference' headphones i think it
costs 2500 rupees, an absolute stunner.
> OK, here is the little i know and it works
> Home Theatre
> Dont go by the number of speakers. Some sony models come with 5 center
button speakers and woofer of 4 channels thats like 11 speakers!! - 
Farce. Just take any 850RMS above home theatre with auto/manual
calibration. Use manual calibration for rear right and rear left and
notch it by say 1.5 dB. treble sounds crispper then. Works for ALL
RAHMAN DISCS.
> Don't go by the size of the woofer. As long as its in a wooden box its
fine.However, don't ever push the woofer into a corner of the room. It
booms and the bass reproduction is wrong. You are looking for a rumble
not windows rattling. Move your woofer about half feet away from walls.
Test it by playing Maula Maula track from Delhi 6 ( a suble bass line
that sounds so great!!)
> If you have some cash to blow try these
> Jamo S 606 home speaker systemsHarmom Kardon HKTS series
> And yes, i agree Bose is over rated. Its great but lot of other guys
have caught on and now theres very little difference. Go right ahead and
by anything nice thats has packed speakers in wood. Not plastic.
> And if you get a DVD/CD player with the package but it. Normally u
only get an AMP. In that case PLEASE do not compromise on your DVD
player. Don't fit local ones.
> Play CDs and not MP3s in these systems to judge the output.
> Sometimes we might feel the bass or treble is low while playing a CD.
But the sonic range is usually very rich and if you just change your
seat it might sound better.
> CD players
> I sometimes think standlone systems sound way better. When you buy a
HiFI or a mini HiFi, try and locate one with a manual EQ. This feature
is becoming quite rare and i hate it. I found a pair from Wharfedale
quite stunning. But then don't break your head!, but any neat wooden
bookshelf speakers with system of about 150 RMS will be just fine for a
small room. Like a Hostel room.
> Headphones
> Firstly, throw your iPOD headphones into the trash. The device works
fine, but pathetic headphones.For your regular use like running,GYMing
etc buy the Sennheiser that comes in a green box ( don't know the model
number). Costs about 1500 rupees. It takes your iPOD audio to a
different level. However, i found HD 595 Senheisser the awesomest one!
Bose also works, but dont pay that much seriously. MP3 is MP3, you wont
get some magic extra sounds and most of today's bollywood music is
compressed and fedility is missing ( this included BLUE also,sorry ...).
Blue sounds bad even in good headphones. Seriously, whats with that?
> Audiophiles thingy
> Well, investing on sound is not a bad idea only if you are listening
to that kind of

[arr] Re: Couples Retreat Tracklisting

[kaissiom]

C'mon guys, (Afro Nisha) is not a singer!  It's really funny to read all the 
comments about the voice being 'suspiciously' similar to Rahman.  Well, that's 
because it is Rahman.

I don't think Afro Nisha is even a person.  If anything, it could be the 
English title of the Tamil 'Kurukuru Kan' or it could even be a new genre.

I can only say one thing for sure, the singer in 'Kurukuru Kan(Afro Nisha)' is 
Rahman.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sreekrishnan R  wrote:
>
> `Afro Nisha` ~ may be a genre ?
> 
> Music experts.. please throw some light...
> 
> 
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:39 IST Rivjot wrote:
> 
> >If song is sung by Rahman, do you think it could have been composed by 
> >someone else? Google goes no result for person named Afro Nisha.. so 
> >probably the words in the song. 
> >
> >--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "ichord"  wrote:
> >>
> >> So, is the Tamil song Kurukuru composed by ARR or AFro Nisha???
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ramesh R  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the heads up!
> >> > Any idea who Afro Nisha is?
> >> > 
> >> > Before ARR got on the project, it was John O'Brien who was listed as the 
> >> > composer so there's one track from him too. Nice! He's also listed now 
> >> > in IMDB as having composed additional music.
> >> > 
> >> > So all the talk about Vince Vaughn and Jean Reno lending vocals might 
> >> > have just been talk eh!
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > From: shashptl 
> >> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:57:49 AM
> >> > Subject: [arr] Couples Retreat Tracklisting
> >> > 
> >> > I know you guys are all eagerly awaiting this album. Hope this will help 
> >> > until we hear it all. Here is the track list : 
> >> > 
> >> > 1.Sajna
> >> > 2.Kurukuru Kan (Afro Nisha)
> >> > 3.Jason & Cynthia Suite
> >> > 4.NaNa
> >> > 5.Tour Of The Villas
> >> > 6.Meeting Marcel
> >> > 7.Itinerary
> >> > 8.Undress
> >> > 9.Sharks
> >> > 10.Luau by John O'Brien
> >> > 11.Salvadore
> >> > 12.Intervention
> >> > 13.The Waterfall
> >> > 14.Jason & Cynthia Piano Theme
> >> > 15.Animal Spirits
> >> > 
> >> > Source : 
> >> > http://b2b.ada-music.com/genericq.asp?module_map_id=1234&view=albumprofile&item_number=RMS%20500131
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Are you searching for a reason, to be kind?
> >> > 
> >> > Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.
> >> > Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.
> >> > 
> >> > Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com
> >> > Admin: admin@
> >> > To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
> >> > To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@! Groups Links
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 
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>

[arr] Re: "Produced" by - What does it mean

[kaissiom]

A music producer can do anything from making coffee to just sitting back and 
listening. That sounds like an easy job, and it can be. When you have a great 
recording engineer doing the recording, and great artists and musicians around 
you creating great music a producer's job becomes very easy. But when you are 
on a budget with very limit studio time, a busy schedule, a singer that keeps 
messing up the vocal track because he/she is nervous, the drummer that can't 
get the groove right, a recording engineer who can't get the computer to record 
the next track your job as a producer becomes a lot more challenging. And this 
is what being a good producer is being about. At these moments a producer needs 
to be a problem solver and make decisions. Every producer does it differently, 
but the result is the same, a recorded and well produced song.

To be able to make it work a producer may have to get involved with the 
technical stuff and help the recording engineer out. Or you may have to get the 
singer to make the vocal track work with the song by changing the lyrics, 
changing the melody or give some vocal pointers. It may also involve rewriting 
part of the music by changing chords, adding samples and sound effects and 
creating a complete new drum rhythm from scratch. And there are a lot of other 
situations where a good producer needs to take charge and show why he (or she) 
is the producer.

Being a producer can involve

Getting into the music (music theory)
Getting into the songwriting process and learning about songwriting and 
sequencing
Knowing some things about recording
Being able to work with musicians and artist and get the best out of them
Working with a recording engineer and other studio owners
Using sound effects, samples and other techniques to make song sound different 
and unique
Mixing and editing the song
Mastering the song

In today's music the producer is usually also a songwriter, a musician and 
recording engineer. This makes the job both easier and more difficult.

source: http://www.musiciansnews.com/61/what_does_a_music_producer_do.shtml

Here's a good explanation as well: 
http://www.ehow.com/video_4951096_what-does-music-producer-do.html

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pradeepan R  wrote:
>
> General Question:
> Who is a Music Producer ?
> Ever since ARR became global in the last 5/6 years, there is more & more
> reference to him being called "Composer & Producer"..
> I know there are guys who don't compose at all - yet they are Producers..
>  So ??
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Pradeepan.
> 
> "All you need to do is, decide what to do with the time that is given to you
> !"
>

[arr] Re: My Thougtts on Couples Retreat - It Doesn't Get Sweeter Than This!!!

[kaissiom]

I think, I know what you are saying!!  :)


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "ichord"  wrote:
>
> Alright, for the first time, I don't know where to begin or what to say.  
> Nothing I say will do justice to the type of divine music that I have been 
> hearing all day today in AR's new soundtrack, Couple's Retreat.  Well, 
> anyway, here's an attempt.
> 
> First of all, when I got wind that ARR would be doing this soundtrack for 
> this movie, I didn't really know what to expect.  I knew that AR would likely 
> compose light hearted tunes, since this was romantic comedy.  In fact, 
> there's lots of music in this album of the kind that I expected to hear.  
> However, what I didn't so much expect and what has completely blown me over 
> are 2 things:
> 
> 1) The range and sweetness of sounds in this soundtrack and the almost 
> exclusively acoustic nature of the soundtrack, something I have been craving 
> for from ARR.  Didn't expect this in Couple's Retreat, but that's ARR for 
> youexpected the unexpected!  I expected more of a typical hollywoodish 
> score with some hip hop and spanish type of music consistent with a comedy, 
> but no way did I expect thistotally and completely blown away!!!
> 
> 2) The enormous range of global sounds including some very Asian and Indian 
> percussion, styles, instrumentation, alaaps, etc.  Now, that was a big 
> surprise, but not really surprising, if you know what I mean!!!  After 
> hearing Rahman say that there would be "a touch of Indian-ness in this 
> soundtrack", I knew we would be hearing some influences, but to the extent 
> and depth and beauty of the range of sounds, instrumentation, the craftiness 
> of each composition, the unpredictability within the compositions, this I 
> never predicted!!! 
> 
> And you know what?  Despite all the range and variety that we're hearing in 
> this album from a sound and genre perspective, the whole album sounds 
> coherent to methere is a strong thread largely bound by the sweet melody 
> from John and Cynthia's Suite that weaves in and out of the whole soundtrack 
> in various avatars.  
> 
> Mindblowingamazing.beautiful...glorious.enchanting 
> ...scintillating..I'm trying to find the right word, but nothing 
> will match up to what I feel about this music...
> 
> I just can't believe the amount of acoustic instruments he has used for this 
> soundtrack from both East and West genres..I could go into detail about 
> this now, but I think you understand what I'm saying.  Listen to this 
> soundtrack on headphones and you will know what I mean  
> 
> Ok, you wanna talk about sound quality?  Here we are listening to only 192 
> kbps an we're still loving it all.  The overall light treatment of the 
> soundtrack gives a lot of breathing room in the music with beautiful 
> dynamics, both loud and soft shades bowing in and out like a true artiste 
> would create a painting or a sculpture with various shades and hues.  
> 
> Finally, I'm thinking that the music is quite serious in parts for a romantic 
> comedy!!!  Will be interesting to see how these gorgeous sound sculptures are 
> used in the film.
> 
> I tell you what, traditional, conservative hollywood snobs may scoff at such 
> an album...those who only appreciate Stephen Speilberg type symphonic scores, 
> but any open minded lover of global music and instrumentation from both East 
> and West will absolutely adore this soundtrack.  Don't be surprised to hear 
> bad reviews of this soundtrack from traditional hollywood people who only 
> appreciate symphonic type or Western oriented scores.
> 
> Never expected such a large representation of the orient in this soundtrack, 
> so beautifully and seamlessly carved and crafted within the backdrop of sweet 
> symphonies and melodies.  
> 
> Sorry for the long winded post, but I was just gushing with excitement and 
> happiness after listening to Couple's Retreat.  This album is an absolute 
> highlight of ARR's career and what a way to smash into hollywood with this.  
> 
> In all honesty, I have never heard in my life as beautiful a musically global 
> album as this one.  ARR, you are unbelievableyour legend continues and 
> continues to get bigger..I BOW TO 
> THEEE
>

[arr] Re: Congratulations to AR - Unveiling the soundtrack of Couples Retreat

[kaissiom]

Hearty Congratulations to AR for the first mainstream Hollywood
soundtrack.  If there is one thing constant in my life, it's the pure
unexpectedly experimental, intellectually soul stirring, addictive,
quality music you deliver with every release.

I have been awe-struck and surprised time and again with your new
releases.  I have seen you conquer the hearts of first hundreds, then
thousands, then millions and then the hearts of at least a billion
people of India.  I will not be surprised if you go on and conquer the
hearts of the people in rest of the World.

I'm very fortunate to not only live in the same era as you but to be
born in the same country as you and then being exposed to your
universally appealing music at very young age and then becoming your
lifelong fan.

Always dearly cherishing what you have produced and looking forward to
what you have in store for us next.

May Allah bless you like He always has.

Proud to be a Rahman fan (pic:
http://picasaweb.google.com/kaissiom/Rahmaniac#slideshow/538293524481585\
6930
<http://picasaweb.google.com/kaissiom/Rahmaniac#slideshow/53829352448158\
56930>  )

Thanks Gopal!
Wasim.
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan 
wrote:
>
> http://www.couplesretreatsoundtrack.com/
>

[arr] Re: Fwd:

[kaissiom]

Eid Mubarak to AR and his family and everyone in the group!
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan  wrote:
>
> Fowarding Eid wishes from ARR to the group.
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: A *R*
> Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:46
> Subject:
> To: Gopal Srinivasan 
> 
> 
> Eid mubarak...wishall the group ..
>

[arr] Proud to be a Rahman fan!

[kaissiom]

http://picasaweb.google.com/kaissiom/Rahmaniac#slideshow/538293524481585\
6930
<http://picasaweb.google.com/kaissiom/Rahmaniac#slideshow/53829352448158\
56930>

[arr] Re: 'Blue' Sound/Audio Quality - "Dissapointed"

[kaissiom]

I don't know about you guys but I'm hearing a low clicking sound throughout the 
album.  I do not have the original CD yet (it hasn't crossed the BLUE oceans to 
the States side yet).  But the mp3's I have are of 320k quality, the sound is 
loud and vibrant.  But before I could comment on the sound, I can't help but 
notice the clicking sound in the songs. The instruments are drowning the 
clicking, but it's there. Anybody else have this experience?

I really really hope it's the ripper induced sound.  I'm going to be really 
disappointed if it's there in the original CD.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arun KB Ganesh  wrote:
>
> One of the reasons for me to appreciate AR's music *was* the superb quality
> his songs had - i am referring to the 'sound' quality.
> Off late, I have felt that his songs were lacking the clarity it had. One of
> the most beautiful songs in a major album this year had an error, which was
> pointed out in this forum & was acknowledged by his team too (not in this
> forum). I am not sure if it is the Sound Engineers or the programmers.
> 
> The 'sound'  of Blue in the *CD* is, in fact, pathetic. It more sounds like
> a studio version (work in progress) - unclear vocals, boomy sounds for
> chiggy wiggy (which is muffling the instrument before Sonu starts singing).
> The vocals are extremely bad
> 
> Not sure if it is a problem in the final mix/mastering or a problem @
> T-Series.
> 
> I am disturbed because of this trend, and more worried coz things are not
> being set right. With every album, I have hoped the sound would be 'better'.
> but it has never been.
> Is ARR not looking into the final product? I dont think so, 'coz the beauty
> of the sound is compromised on.
> 
> And I am not in for a debate here.
>

Re: [arr] voiceless songs for karoake

[kaissiom]

Enjoy!  :

http://www.filedropper.com/saathiya-karaoke-chupkese



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "K. Kumar"  wrote:
>
> ya peeps have been searching for them too pls help.!
>
> HARDCORE RAHMANIAC TILL DA VERY END!!!
>
> --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Krishna Kanth Kristam krishna.kris...@... wrote:
>
> From: Krishna Kanth Kristam krishna.kris...@...
> Subject: [arr] voiceless songs for karoake
> To: "arrahmanfans" arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 2:01 AM
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my system now..!! can someone please give me a link..to those songs..or
please upload them for me..??
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[arr] Re: En Swasa Katre title song is pure bliss

[kaissiom]

Yeah, truly, absolute brilliance.  And I was thinking the same thing, the 
ending is like that of Rehna Tu - out of the world.  The female voice enhances 
the song to another level.  It's one of those songs I never bothered to look up 
the translations for.  The music is so divine and captivating that I didn't 
feel I needed anything more to song.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord"  wrote:
>
> Great pleasure to revisit the classics and I love to share it here.  One of 
> the most soothing numbers by our man.  The beautiful bass with ride cymbal 
> and the haunting electric piano loop makes it so haunting.  The best part is 
> the ending when ARR uses the veena along with the female carnatic vocal 
> alaapsgives me chills each time!!!  One of the most beautiful and 
> haunting outro portions in any ARR song, similar in beauty to the outro of 
> Rehna Tu. I know there are other beauties in the album too.
>

[arr] Just coming from the Jay Leno Show

[kaissiom]

So I ran to the NBC studios early this morning and was grab a couple
of tickets for the Tonight Show.  

Even though I live 2 minutes away from these studios, I have never
been to any show.  So, it was my first time and it was a great
experience.  Jay Leno was great, he did the whole show live(no edits).
 However, I'm disappointed that Rahman only came towards the end of
the show and only performed music from SDM.

I was expecting him to be interviewed or something.  But alas, not a
single word from Rahman.  Most of the show was just Jay Leno and
comedian/radio host Dennis Miller.  Frieda Pinto and ARR were probably
there for the last 15 minutes.  If you are planning to watch the show
just for Rahman, tune into the very end portion.

Frieda was cute, with her British accent and funny incidents from
childhood and her crush on Leonardo DiCaprio.  

And finally, it was Rahman's performance - the last 5 mintues.

They had decorated the stage with colorful "Indian" theme.  A small
group of American musicians and singers joined Rahman as he played the
piano on Stage.  They started with Latika's theme and then switched to
Jai Ho.  Rahman sang some parts of it, but it was mostly sung by an
American girl.  They also had some colorfully dressed dancers perform
to Jai Ho.  And that was it.

It was a good experience, but I wish there was more of Rahman.

Regards,
Wasim.

[arr] Re: Rahman's top 12 personal favorites... including 3 of his own compositions

[kaissiom]

This is a very recent list from itunes. They have created a Slumdog
music room in itunes... which lists top favorites of the Slumdog team.
 These are Rahman's top 12 favorites.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "ramakrisha laxmana subramanian
siva gopala acharya iyer .aiyooo amma idli wada dosa sambar chatni ."
 wrote:
>
> Did Rahman rate the song recently, or was it awhile back?!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "kaissiom"  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Rahmaniacs,
> > 
> > Here's the top 12 favorite list of ARR from itunes, along with his
> > comments:
> > 
> > I can understand Bombay Theme and Pray for Me Brother, but 
> interesting
> > to see Ghoomparani in the list:
> > 
> > 1. 'Cinema Paradiso Love Theme' - "The piano never fails to haunt
> > me... makes me feel that Italy is the most romantic place in the 
> World."
> > 
> > 2. 'Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft (The Recognized Anthem
> > of World Contact Day)' - "If I ever missed working with any singer
> > from the past, it would be Karen Carpenter... what a voice!"
> > 
> > 3. 'Frozen' - Became a fan of this song after I heard Craig
> > Armstrong's serene and wonderful string arrangement."
> > 
> > 4. 'Bombay Theme' - Originally one of my own compositions for my
> > mentor Mani Ratnam's film Bombay... one of my favorites of my own 
> work."
> > 
> > 5. 'My Heart, My Life' - "His voice never ceases to amaze me... even
> > after he is gone."
> > 
> > 6. 'I Cried for You' - "One of my current favorites."
> > 
> > 7. 'Sandman' - "This is the first song I learned and it introduced 
> me
> > to the world of rock... I was pulled in by some of my seniors to
> > accompany them on keyboard in the 9th grade.  Hearing it brings in a
> > nostalgic moment."
> > 
> > 8. 'Ghoomparani' - "Though my own composition, it takes me into the
> > world of the freedom fighter S.C.Bose."
> > 
> > 9. 'Pray for Me Brother' - "Intentionally simplictic version of this
> > song, it is also my first English song!  Compared to many of my 
> other
> > songs, it moves me because of the title when I perform this for my
> > fans and audience."
> > 
> > 10. 'Letter from Home' - "If jazz had a heart it is Pat's guitar and
> > his tone... very captivating."
> > 
> > 11. 'Send In the Clowns'(from "A Little Night Music") - "Ever green
> > Barbara Streisand..."
> > 
> > 12. 'Don't Give Up' - "Great writing from Peter! No one expected him
> > to write such a great song about a loser!"
> > 
> > regards,
> > Wasim.
> >
>

[arr] Swades BGM in Slumdog Millionaire?

[kaissiom]

Did anybody notice the Swades BGM as the cell phone ring tone in
Slumdog Millionaire?

Re: [arr] JAI HO! - Just watched Slumdog Millionaire

[kaissiom]

The cheering or clapping from audience does not equate to them being
fans.  When you go watch a performance or a show and you enjoy it, you
express your appreciation by cheering/clapping for whoever the artist
or the performer is, regardless of whether you know them or not.

I never said they are Rahman fans, they enjoyed the entire movie; the
direction, the acting, the music..etc.  Music was an essential
component of this movie. When they showed "Original Music Composed by
A.R. Rahman"... people cheered and clapped... to express they like the
music.. whoever had made it.  I'm sure many of them had not heard of
that name before, nevertheless they appreciated the movie/music and
hence cheered and clapped for the composer.

You are right, Americans are not used to or don't appreciate much
music in their movies... they call them musicals.  But this is an
Indian movie, and Indian movies here are infamous for being "all
musical" with dance sequences involving hundreds of people.  So, the
music in this Indian movie is expected.  In fact, the Jai Ho song is a
pun or a stereotypical joke intended to make people laugh.. because
the entire movie goes without any song-dance sequence and THEN at the
very end when the movie is done.. "The End" the actors start sing and
dancing.. the whole theater started laughing, including me.. so
stereotypical of a Bollywood movie.. that's why people stay and watch
the end credits and then cheer and clap for the composer - Go Rahman!

FYI: M.I.A is a Sri Lankan artist brought up in U.K.  I like her
music; she uses some wicked Afro-Indian rhythms and beats, although
most of her lyrics are gibberish.  Check out her "Galang" and "Bucky
Done Gun", those are my favorite.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Sylenthira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Even I cannot believe it. Does our ARR sir have number of fans from
> U.S? If it is true...no words to describe. 
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sanku Mohan  wrote:
> >
> > "And when they showed Music composed by A.R. Rahman towards the end...
> > 
> > people cheered and clapped!  Well, that made my day."Â  i cant
> believe this... pls someone confirm...  OOO God u r great
> > 
> > Sanku
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 4/11/08, kaissiom  wrote:
> > From: kaissiom 
> > Subject: [arr] JAI HO! - Just watched Slumdog Millionaire
> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, 4 November, 2008, 12:33 PM
> > 
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> > 
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Just coming from the pre-screening of Slumdog Millionaire.  It's a
> > 
> > great movie, very different... very realistic.  I would recommend
> > 
> > everyone to watch it.  I was lucky enough to get two seats for the
> > 
> > pre-screening in Los Angeles.  I went with my friend, I was not
> > 
> > expecting the theater to be full since it's not a mainstream American
> > 
> > movie.  But to my surprise there was a huge line just to get in, and
> > 
> > we barely saw any Indians... It was an all American audience.  The
> > 
> > direction and storytelling is awesome, along with some brilliant
> > 
> > acting.  Now coming to the BGM... Rahman has given an excellent score
> > 
> > for the movie.  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The background music really compliments the movie well.  M.I.A was
> > 
> > featured at least a couple or more times throughout the movie.  There
> > 
> > are many fantastic BGM pieces used throughout the movie apart from
> > 
> > what is played in the trailers.  The romantic piece played on Jamal
> > 
> > and Latika is simply awesome, it's a female voice humming.. I couldn't
> > 
> > figure out who.  I had a big wrestler type dude crying next to me
> > 
> > during one of these scenes. The music was truly moving and added a lot
> > 
> > of emotions to the scenes.  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regarding what the reviewers and critics had said about the ending...
> > 
> > it's true.. about 97% of people stayed glued to their seats as the End
> > 
> > credits started rolling.. with the Jai Ho song by Sukhwinder and some
> > 
> > dance sequence with a huge crowd. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The song... well, I was not too impressed by it... it's an average
> > 
> > song by Rahman standard but not very good or best.. may be because I
> > 
> > was hearing it the first time?  But hey, the people seemed to love
it.  
> >

[arr] JAI HO! - Just watched Slumdog Millionaire

[kaissiom]

Hi guys,

Just coming from the pre-screening of Slumdog Millionaire.  It's a
great movie, very different... very realistic.  I would recommend
everyone to watch it.  I was lucky enough to get two seats for the
pre-screening in Los Angeles.  I went with my friend, I was not
expecting the theater to be full since it's not a mainstream American
movie.  But to my surprise there was a huge line just to get in, and
we barely saw any Indians... It was an all American audience.  The
direction and storytelling is awesome, along with some brilliant
acting.  Now coming to the BGM... Rahman has given an excellent score
for the movie.  

The background music really compliments the movie well.  M.I.A was
featured at least a couple or more times throughout the movie.  There
are many fantastic BGM pieces used throughout the movie apart from
what is played in the trailers.  The romantic piece played on Jamal
and Latika is simply awesome, it's a female voice humming.. I couldn't
figure out who.  I had a big wrestler type dude crying next to me
during one of these scenes. The music was truly moving and added a lot
of emotions to the scenes.  

Regarding what the reviewers and critics had said about the ending...
it's true.. about 97% of people stayed glued to their seats as the End
credits started rolling.. with the Jai Ho song by Sukhwinder and some
dance sequence with a huge crowd. 

The song... well, I was not too impressed by it... it's an average
song by Rahman standard but not very good or best.. may be because I
was hearing it the first time?  But hey, the people seemed to love it.  

And when they showed Music composed by A.R. Rahman towards the end...
people cheered and clapped!  Well, that made my day. We can expect
more high profile international projects from Rahman, thanks to this
movie.  Let's hope it bags the Oscars for music.

Go watch the movie and let's hope Fox Searchlight decides to release
the soundtrack of the movie.

[arr] Re: Simple Solution........Just Release the BGMs legally!

[kaissiom]

Would be a dream come true.  Gops/Vijay please let Rahman know about
our passion for his BGMs.  He may be able to convince producers or
whoever the stakeholders are to release BGM CDs as well.  May be not
for the older ones, but at least BGM CDs for the future releases would
be a great offering. Rahman is definitely a trendsetter, please
request him to release BGM CDs.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, karthik subramanian
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Agree with that. The best way to LEGALLY enjoy the masterly BGMs is
for the producers to release the BGMs.
> I hope Aamir does it for Ghajini like he has for Taare Zameen Par.
> He is a trendsetter and I hope others will follow soon.
> 
> Karthik
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:54:48 AM
> Subject: [arr] Simple SolutionJust Release the BGMs legally!
> 
> 
> You know, a lot of this would be put to rest IF THE MUSIC COMPANIES
> WOULD ONLY RELEASE THE BGM SCORES LEGALLY SO THAT MUSIC LOVERS WORLD
> OVER CAN ENJOY AWARD WINNING BGM SCORES BY ARR WITHOUT INFRINGING
> COPYRIGHT LAWS!!! Like what Aamir did for Taare Zameen Par, why can't
> ARR's BGMS be released along with the DVD as a separate CD? ARR is
> the master of BGMS! Come on!
> 
> My dream is that someday, someone, somehow, will release all of ARR's
> BGMS as a box set package for people to enjoy. Yeah, I know, keep
> dreaming ...
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "Amith Chandhran"
>  wrote:
> >
> > In my humble opinion, the copyright laws about the recorded work
on any
> > recordable media are very well defined in the legal system.
> > 
> > Copyright recognizes the exclusive right of a creator to gain the
> commercial
> > advantage out of his own creation. It is essential to encourage the
> artists
> > and composers to invest their creative inputs in the original works.*
> > 
> > *Copyright is a bundle of rights which deals with works like:
Literary,
> > Dramatic, Musical, Artistic, Cinematographic films, and Sound
> recordings. A
> > musical work means any combination of (instrumental or vocal) melody,
> > harmony, singing, or either of them, printed, reduced to writing or
> > otherwise graphically produced or reproduced.
> > 
> > Where the musical work is comprising a part of the cinematographic
> film, the
> > assignees of the copyrights for the cinematographic film will by
> default own
> > copyrights in the musical work. Please refer to my earlier email
on the
> > copyright issues here:
> > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/arrahmanfa ns/message/ 88353
> > 
> > The BGMs with which we are concerned as of now, are the part of a
> movie, and
> > are intended to be heard/seen/enjoyed as a part of movie, and not
> otherwise.
> > Even if we extract them for our own pleasure, in any form
> (voiceless, with
> > voice / with or without musical instruments) the copyrights will still
> > remain with the original assignee. Since copyright is a bundle of
> rights,
> > the assignee who has the copyrights for the movie, will essentially
> own the
> > copyrights in the BGMs as well. (*Remember: "All rights of the DVD
> are owned
> > by the producer"*) And extracting BGMs will violate the copyright
laws.
> > 
> > * *
> > Where both a CD and a DVD are copyrighted, the copyright laws will be
> > applicable to all the work that they contain.
> > 
> > And unfortunately, the contention
> > 'we-are-innocent- because-we- are-die-hard- fans-of-Mr. Rahman' is not
> going to
> > sustain in any courts in this world. And I am not being sarcastic
> here, its
> > the fact.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:42 AM, kaissiom  wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear Aravind,
> > >
> > > Now you feel the dilemma I have been facing for at least a year or
> > > two... ever since I heard my BGM on Radio. I have numerous BGMs and
> > > other High Quality rips from DVDs that I can't share :(
> > >
> > > The fact is... we trust our brothers and sisters on this group here.
> > > We are all here for the same purpose... to share and celebrate
Rahman.
> > > And it is with this spirit that we share these rare and generally
> > > unavailable bits and pieces. But once we share something in the
> > > public space like this group, whatever we share becomes available to
> > > the public, who doesn't necessarily ha

[arr] Re: The dilemma about extracts from DVD!

[kaissiom]

Thank You Amith!


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Amith Chandhran"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In my humble opinion, the copyright laws about the recorded work on any
> recordable media are very well defined in the legal system.
> 
> Copyright recognizes the exclusive right of a creator to gain the
commercial
> advantage out of his own creation. It is essential to encourage the
artists
> and composers to invest their creative inputs in the original works.*
> 
> *Copyright is a bundle of rights which deals with works like: Literary,
> Dramatic, Musical, Artistic, Cinematographic films, and Sound
recordings. A
> musical work means any combination of (instrumental or vocal) melody,
> harmony, singing, or either of them, printed, reduced to writing or
> otherwise graphically produced or reproduced.
> 
> Where the musical work is comprising a part of the cinematographic
film, the
> assignees of the copyrights for the cinematographic film will by
default own
> copyrights in the musical work. Please refer to my earlier email on the
> copyright issues here:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/message/88353
> 
> The BGMs with which we are concerned as of now, are the part of a
movie, and
> are intended to be heard/seen/enjoyed as a part of movie, and not
otherwise.
> Even if we extract them for our own pleasure, in any form
(voiceless, with
> voice / with or without musical instruments) the copyrights will still
> remain with the original assignee. Since copyright is a bundle of
rights,
> the assignee who has the copyrights for the movie, will essentially
own the
> copyrights in the BGMs as well. (*Remember: "All rights of the DVD
are owned
> by the producer"*) And extracting BGMs will violate the copyright laws.
> 
> * *
> Where both a CD and a DVD are copyrighted, the copyright laws will be
> applicable to all the work that they contain.
> 
> And unfortunately, the contention
> 'we-are-innocent-because-we-are-die-hard-fans-of-Mr.Rahman' is not
going to
> sustain in any courts in this world. And I am not being sarcastic
here, its
> the fact.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:42 AM, kaissiom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >   Dear Aravind,
> >
> > Now you feel the dilemma I have been facing for at least a year or
> > two... ever since I heard my BGM on Radio. I have numerous BGMs and
> > other High Quality rips from DVDs that I can't share :(
> >
> > The fact is... we trust our brothers and sisters on this group here.
> > We are all here for the same purpose... to share and celebrate Rahman.
> > And it is with this spirit that we share these rare and generally
> > unavailable bits and pieces. But once we share something in the
> > public space like this group, whatever we share becomes available to
> > the public, who doesn't necessarily have to be a true, devoted,
> > dedicated Rahman fan.
> >
> > You can not imagine the pain I felt when I heard my BGM on the Radio.
> > And I knew it was my BGM because it was edited.. I had edited it. I
> > felt like I had somehow betrayed Rahman... his hard work. That's when
> > I made the conscious decision to stop sharing BGMs.. it was right
> > after RDB bgms.
> >
> > Anyhow... I would definitely like to point out one major thing...
> > namely the difference between a)BGMs and b)Vocals from DVD
> >
> > I'm not aware of the copyright laws about the soundtrack on DVDs, but
> > it would be great if someone(Amith Chandran?) could shed some light on
> > that. But please notice the difference between the above mentioned
> > musical bits from DVD:
> >
> > a)BGM (Background Music) bits:
> > 1. Available commercially: NO.. unless released as a soundtrack like
> > some of the tracks in BOSE.
> > 2. Rights owned by: Producer/Composer, don't know?
> > 3. Violations of copyright laws: Maybe, don't know?
> >
> > b)Vocals (extracted from DVD):
> > 1. Available commercially: YES.. in the form of original CD. We are
> > extracting the music(vocals) from the DVD, but the same exact music is
> > available in the commercial form in original CD. Commercial here
> > implies money can be made from it. And technically it shouldn't
> > matter if you extract vocals from a CD or a DVD... because it's the
> > same song and the same vocals. Therefore, you are tampering with a
> > commercially available product.. which definitely implies violation of
> > copyright laws.
> > 2. Rights owned by: same right-holders as the original CD
> > 3. Violated of copyright: Definitely YES.
>

Re: [arr] Sangamam BGMs - With Disclaimer

[kaissiom]

Thanks Amith, much appreciated!

That was the least I could have done.. when I used to share.  I have
stopped sharing all together.

Could you then show us the right way and guide us please, we need your
expert advice?

Thanks,
Wasim.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Amith Chandhran"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Though it is nicely drafted - the disclaimer, from a legal point of
view,
> does not relax the customers from the applicable legal provisions. The
> interest in the copyrights will still remain with the original
assignees.
> You pay and buy the original copyrighted material, but your act of
buying it
> won't transfer the copyrights to you. And the laws of the State will
prevail
> over any such disclaimers.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:26 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wats the legal sanctity to that disclaimer mate ? Amith wld you knw ?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> 
> >>   The Legal sanctity from my side is that I rip the BGMs only for
sheer
> >>> enjoyment and happiness, that I derive out of lisening them, and
I dont
> >>> intend to tamper with the same, or copy the same, and put my
name to it in
> >>> anyway.
> >>>
> >>> All credits go to ARR, and I have bought the DVD out of which  I am
> >>> ripping all of these... I have paid money, and done the needful.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>

[arr] Re: The dilemma about extracts from DVD!

[kaissiom]

I don't think ARR can be approached regarding this matter, that would be
very irresponsible of us.  Gops/Vijay will be  in the same boat as us in
this matter... confused.  We really need some expert assistance here.

Regarding the disclaimer... I had started posting the disclaimer for
only one reason:
1. Primarily to cover my own behind
And that was when I was actually sharing full BGMs, I have stopped doing
so for a while now.

When I buy a DVD or a CD, I'm paying for it, I have the right to watch
it or listen to it where-ever I like, when ever I like as long as I'm
not violating any copyright laws.  I'm not an expert on copyright
laws... but I have studied business law to a certain extent.
Copyright/patent laws are there to protect the intellectual/artistic
property of the right holder.  It actually is all about money, and if
not money then some other kind of compensation.  These laws are there to
make sure that "someone" other than the "rightholder" is not taking
advantage or benefiting in anyway from the property of the rightholder
whithout the rightholder's consent or permission.  Backup of something
you have purchases is allowed.

BGMs are nothing but backups of music in the DVD.  As long as I own the
DVD, I can create backups of it.  As long as I'm not making any money
from the backups or broadcasting it in anyway or claiming it as my
"creation", I'm not violating any rules.

Let me try to explain my disclaimer here:
By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you
currently own the original copy of . The content provided to you
for downloading is
strictly for backup purposes. I, Kaissiom, certify that I own the
original content and make duplicates for backup purposes only. By
downloading the content, you certify that you currently own the
original content and want to protect it from possible damage.
-Here I'm requiring the downloader to certify that he/she owns the
original DVD/CD.  If you own it and I own it, then there's no problem in
us sharing a backup.

This is a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music,
I'm
only providing backups of the music you already own.
-Here I'm explicitly indicating that nobody is benefiting from this
exhange or in other words... it's not causing any "loss" to the
rightholder.

  I, Kaissiom, will not be held accountable for the downloader's use of
my backups.
-Here I'm explicitly indicating that I'm responsible for my actions, but
what the downloader does with it after he/she downloads it is not my
responsibility.  They are liable for their actions... legal or illegal.

  If you sell, trade, or forfeit your ownership of your original
software, you
agree to destroy the CDR or any digital backups of that title.
-If you sell or trade or forfeit your ownership of original work, you
automatically lose ownership of your backups... that is what these lines
are explaining.

You take full responsibility for your own actions when using these
back-ups and release Kaissiom from all liabilities, which may arise -
expressed, written, or implied.
-Here I'm releasing myself of any liability and again enforcing the
burdern of responsibilty with the downloader after he/she downloads.

By downloading the content, you are
complying with these regulations.
-Basically... If you do not like my conditions above... DO NOT download.

This allows me (Kaissiom) to
duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my
backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective
third parties."
-Again... I can only share these items with you as backups given we both
own the originals, we won't profit from it and or broadcast it, you will
destroy the backups if you lose ownership of the orignal, you are
responsible for what you do with it after you download it, and last but
not the least, I'm not claiming these to be my creations... all rights
are owned by the respective third parties.

Therefore, once someone downloads it, they can not further share it with
someone or host it somewhere or do anything illegal with it.  But if
they do, they are responsible for all their actions and the consequences
thereof.

I don't know... I hope we all find some solution to this dilemma.

One thing is for certain... We CAN NOT share full length vocals
extracted from the DVDs - They are commercially avaialbe in form of
audio CD... as opposed to BGMs which are not commercially available.

Sigh!
Wasim

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Bharath Venkatesan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> By his contracts with the producers and music/ video rights holder
> >> companies, ARR is BOUND not to allow it, not to let it be allowed,
not
> >> to say a word that might encourage sharing of bgm.
>
> That exactly is my understanding too. I once mentioned to somebody
that I a

[arr] Re: The dilemma about extracts from DVD!

[kaissiom]

Dear Aravind, 

Now you feel the dilemma I have been facing for at least a year or
two... ever since I heard my BGM on Radio.  I have numerous BGMs and
other High Quality rips from DVDs that I can't share :(

The fact is... we trust our brothers and sisters on this group here. 
We are all here for the same purpose... to share and celebrate Rahman.
 And it is with this spirit that we share these rare and generally
unavailable bits and pieces.  But once we share something in the
public space like this group, whatever we share becomes available to
the public, who doesn't necessarily have to be a true, devoted,
dedicated Rahman fan.

You can not imagine the pain I felt when I heard my BGM on the Radio.
 And I knew it was my BGM because it was edited.. I had edited it.  I
felt like I had somehow betrayed Rahman... his hard work.  That's when
I made the conscious decision to stop sharing BGMs.. it was right
after RDB bgms.  

Anyhow... I would definitely like to point out one major thing...
namely the difference between a)BGMs and b)Vocals from DVD

I'm not aware of the copyright laws about the soundtrack on DVDs, but
it would be great if someone(Amith Chandran?) could shed some light on
that.  But please notice the difference between the above mentioned
musical bits from DVD:

a)BGM (Background Music) bits:
1. Available commercially: NO.. unless released as a soundtrack like
some of the tracks in BOSE.
2. Rights owned by: Producer/Composer, don't know?  
3. Violations of copyright laws: Maybe, don't know?

b)Vocals (extracted from DVD):
1. Available commercially: YES.. in the form of original CD.  We are
extracting the music(vocals) from the DVD, but the same exact music is
available in the commercial form in original CD.  Commercial here
implies money can be made from it.  And technically it shouldn't
matter if you extract vocals from a CD or a DVD... because it's the
same song and the same vocals.  Therefore, you are tampering with a
commercially available product.. which definitely implies violation of
copyright laws.
2. Rights owned by: same right-holders as the original CD
3. Violated of copyright: Definitely YES.

Therefore, to conclude, we must note the obvious difference between
just a BGM(not commercially available) vs. Vocals(Commercially
available in form of CD).  

The copyright laws regarding BGMs are not very clear and may not be
very well defined in the legal system.. it may be something like...
"All rights of the DVD are owned by the producer"? But we can still
argue that BGMs are by themselves not available to the public in
commercial form.  If there is demand for it then maybe these
producers/composers should start making BGMs commercially available...
that way we don't have to go through the process of ripping and
sharing these BGMS.  It could be a market they are overlooking and
while they do something about it, we are filling up the void for the
die-hard fans and that too for "free".  The "free" part is a big deal
because nobody is making money from these BGMs and that is what it
boils down to.. how much money did the copyright holders lose?  

On the other hand, copyright laws of Audio CD are very well defined. 
Either the Record Company owns it(most of the times) or the producer
owns it or the composer owns it or they own it partially( Rahman is
working on it).  
I believe full length vocals of any song should not be shared..for the
very same reason we do not share full length audio songs from Rahman's
CDs.  

Rahman is an excellent corporate citizen and he is our role model.  We
should learn from him and follow him in his ideals as true fans.  We
as a group and as true Rahman fans are against piracy and plagiarism.
 Not just Rahman's... please buy original CDs and DVDs of all the
Artists you like!

Make Rahman Proud,
Wasim.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> 
> I have extracted voice only tracks of songs in Taal and Dil-Se...
But, now I'm having second thoughts on uploading it to the group.
> 
> After seeing this series of mails on whether or not sharing this
mail, I'm now thoroughly confused.  On reading kaissiom's mail, I
could truly empathise with his argument. Whatever he has mentioned in
his mail makes a lot of sense, and he is totally justified! 
> 
> Now, I'm torn between the two  - joy of sharing and
ethics/copyright issues. 
> 
> Gopal and Vijay, It would be great if you could give your views on
the same!!
> 
> 
> Aravind
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com
> 
>  Download Rahmania show interviews at http://rahmania.4shared.com
> 
> 
>   Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to
http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
>

Re: [arr] Rahmaniac

[kaissiom]

Thanks Fani, 

Also, if you have winamp, you can just drag and drop the file in
winamp without modifying the file and it will play the mp3 part of the
file while your reading the document in Word. Enjoy!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, fani kalyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> go to view--options..select the show file extension name
option--rename da file name to xyz.mp3
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Vijay Anand  wrote:
> 
> vithur,
> 
> please tell me how to play the hidden mp3
> i'm not able to save the file as mp3, it is getting saved as doc
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:
> 
> There was a hidden MP3, in the Word doc , which was earlier given by
Kaissiom Bhai  regarding who is a true Rahmaniac. 
>  
> Check this link 
>  
> http://briefcase. yahoo.com/ bc/kaissiom/ lst?.dir= /AR+Rahman&.view=l  
>  
> There is a word doc by name Rahmaniac there. When you download it
and save... save it as an MP3. 
>  
> Kaissiom Bhai is the most high level techie in this groups His
BGM rippings are one of the best. 
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Mohamed Hashir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
com> wrote:
> 
> hidden mp3? cn u pls explain pawan??
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:29 PM, $ Pavan Kumar $  wrote:
> 
> Chk tht word file..It has an hidden mp3 too..
>  
> Amazing work Kaissom.. :)
> 
> --- On Thu, 10/23/08, light4_u <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.in> wrote:
> 
> From: light4_u <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.in>
> Subject: [arr] Rahmaniac
> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 6:58 AM
> 
> 
> You know you are a Rahman fan when…
> 
> 1. You have a peculiar taste in music, which does not 
> necessarily have to match the taste of the "masses".
> 
> 2. You have a good sense of melody and rhythm and can tell good 
> music from average. You appreciate good music, regardless of who it 
> comes from.
> 
> 3. You can go on for hours talking about Rahman when someone 
> makes a mistake of asking you about your favorite music.
> 
> 4. You are never content and are always hungry and thirsty for 
> more from Rahman.
> 
> 5. You have had many euphoric moments in your life.. connected 
> with Rahman's music.
> 
> 6. You agree that an average Rahman song is better than the best 
> most of the other can churn out.
> 
> 7. Regardless of how the World finds Rahman music, you think 
> Rahman makes music just for your ears. You genuinely believe that 
> Rahman somehow knows what kind of music you unconsciously crave and 
> then magically delivers that to you.
> 
> 8. Your most prized collection in your entire music collection 
> is your Rahman collection, whether it's in form of cassettes, CD's or 
> hard-disk space on computer or ipods.
> 
> 9. You sometimes feel this bliss, a kind of feeling that you are 
> in heaven, when listening to Rahman's music.
> 
> 10. If the World was to go back to using the barter system again, 
> you wouldn't mind trading a 1000 non-Rahman songs for a single Rahman 
> song.
> 
> 11. You share this special bond with Rahman which is impossible 
> to describe in words, let alone explain it to others.
> 
> 12. Your friends/family fail to understand why you listen to 
> music in a language that makes no sense to you, whatsoever. But, a 
> few weeks later, you totally understand why your friends/family are 
> humming/singing the very song they don't understand and were puzzled 
> about you listening to it.
> 
> 13. You are part of the Rahman Yahoo! group and visit it at least 
> once a day.
> 
> 14. You take pleasure in new group members arguing with likes of 
> Gops and Vijay, when they come out with some Rahman info/news.
> 
> 15. You are tired of new member joining the group and inquiring 
> about and referring to the fake "Ekyam Satyam". You too hope to 
> listen to the real one someday, if it exists somewhere.
> 16. You can talk to any other Rahman fan and connect with them 
> instantly. 
> 
> 17. You have a deep desire to meet Rahman in person, and know 
> deep in your heart that one day your dream will come true.
> 
> 18. You have thought of it many a times and tried to come up with 
> a plan of what you would do? How would you react? when you actually 
> meet Rahman.
> 
> 19. You can find the challenging task of solving a complex 
> problem rather easy compared to the daunting and difficult task of 
> coming up with your absolute top-10 Rahman favorites.
> 
> 20. Any criticism of Rahman is hard for you to digest, because 
> most of the time it comes 

[arr] kaissiom - Pls share the complete Khwaja mere

[kaissiom]

Hi guys,

I totally understand and share your excitement about this unplugged
versions.  I'm not that selfish to keep these musical gems of Rahman
to myself, that is why I share.  Although, you have to understand that
my decision to not share something like "Khwaja-unplugged" in its
entirety stems from multiple other reasons and issues beyond my control. 

Someone close to Rahman has expressed to me that Rahman doesn't really
like us ripping bits from DVDs and sharing with everyone.  There are
legal, copyright and other issues involved there, along with the fact
that his hard work easily becomes available to all these copycats that
use his music in TV serials and even some movies.  Plus, Rahman
doesn't solely own the rights of his music, I believe the producer
owns the partial rights, if not all rights. I guess what I'm trying to
get to is that sometimes we love someone so much that we end up
hurting them without intending it.  Rahman opposes remixes, especially
remixing of his songs(without this consent).  Imagine, if something
like Khwaja's vocals were out in the public domain, it could spur
remixes.  A DJ or someone who wants to remix tries hard to eliminate
or isolate the voices in the song.  Therefore, finding just the vocals
of a song is like a dream come true for the remixer.  If I was to
shared the complete version of Khwaja, it would be available in the
public domain for anyone to use.  They can try infinite number of
beats and templates on Khwaja.  They don't need Rahman, they will have
his original singing and would simply need to add beats.  Now, all
this may sound far fetched, but we have to recognize the possibility
of this occuring.  One of the BGMs I extracted had ended up on a Radio
channel.  After that I had decided to limit my BGMs and other work.  I
do not want to be an accomplice to copycats and certainly do not want
to hurt Rahman.  

Imagine the dedication, passion and divinity Rahman has put in Khwaja.
 And also imagine the layers of music and hours or days of hard work
gone into making the music and beats etc. of Khwaja.  And then imagine
how well it's come out and how well it's layered.  The vocals of
Rahman are supposed to be hidden in the layers, never to be extracted
the way I have extracted them.  As I have expressed before, my talent
or whatever you want to call it is an accident. I wish I had never
discovered this accident.  But now I know how to do it and I love it,
but imagine my dilemma, I can not share it.  But I can not resist
sharing  a small part of it.  That way I feel I'm doing justice to
both Rahman and the fellow Rahmaniacs. 

Bottom line, we all love Rahman and do not want to hurt him.  Sharing
Khwaja - unplugged - complete version will be like hurting Rahman.  

I hope I have explained some of the reasons behind my decision.  I
hope you understand the reasons and see the logic behind those.  And
if you don't agree with me then, I certainly hope you are able to
forgive me.

Although my methods are different, there are other simpler ways of
extracting vocals which are already being discussed on the group. 
Sooner or later someone is going to post these unplugged versions
online.  I personally do not want to be that person.  Now, I am not
saying everyone should stop sharing BGMs and other musical bits.  One
can never dictate what other people can do or not do.  Therefore, all
we can do is... do what we think is RIGHT because at the end of it we
are all responsible for our own individual actions and not those of
others.

With that said, I'm really looking forward to Yuvvraaj and Slumdog
Millionaire and Ghajini!  Expecting amazing Background Score for each
of these.

Regards,
Wasim.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Lalisingh,
> 
> sorry Bhai... I dont have the same.. and moreover, I dont think that
can be
> shared for piracy issues...
> 
> ripping it like that without the instruments is so tough. I really
dont know
> how Wasim Bhai did it..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:36 AM, lalisingh20 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >   Hi kaissiom,
> >
> > Can you pls pls pls share the complete Khwaja unplugged version? We
> > know you work hard on whatever you share and we also understand that
> > you don't always want to share everything. But the 1 minute of Khwaja
> > is killing me, I just cannot get enough of it its always on repeat,its
> > so divine. Pls don't tease us like that. I'm sure others will want
> > the same. I have heard it hundreds of times and everytime I want it
> > continue more then the 1:08 secs. I feel like something is missing in
> > my life just the way the song ends. Pls pls pls I'm even willing to
> > compensate you for this.
> >
> > am i the only one feeling like this?
> >
> > Vithur bhai if you have it pls share it, please.
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> regards,
> Vithur
> 
> ARR in my Heart;
> His Music in my Blood;
>

[arr] Re: Diwali Special - JODHA AKBAR BGMs - Voiceless

[kaissiom]

Thanks a lot Vithur for taking time ripping and sharing all these
amazing BGMs.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> 
> Enjoy High Quality Voiceless DVD rip BGMs from Jodhaa Akbar. All
possible
> sounds have been extracted. Just mind blowing, and simply one of the
best of
> ARRs. BGMs.
> 
> I am sure he is going to get lots of awards for the BGMs of this movie.
> Ameen. Ameeen.,
> 
> http://www.mediafire.com/?jnyuzthmybd
> 
> http://www.mediafire.com/?3jj3y3dqmkt
> 
> http://www.mediafire.com/?rui2y3zj0mk
> 
> All the BGMs are a treasure to have... and enjoy.
> 
> -- 
> regards,
> Vithur
> 
> ARR in my Heart;
> His Music in my Blood;
>

[arr] [Translation] - Zindagi Zindagi

[kaissiom]

Hi Guys,

Here's my attempt at translating Zindagi.  I have not checked out the
rest of the album yet.  This song is on 'repeat' and I'm unable to skip
it as of yet.  [:D]   The lyrics and underlying beats are reminiscent of
Zindagi from Meenaxi, albeit a little faster.

* As the lyrics happen to be by Gulzar, it's needless to say that they
are open to interpretation.  Remember "Naram naram ujlaa dhuan" from
Saathiya? So, please forgive me if the translation doesn't fit your
interpretation.

Here goes:

Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
-[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
Aankh ki kor mein...
-[Corner of the eye...]
Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
-[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]

Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
-[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
-[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]
Tu kahan kho gayi?
-[Where did you get lost?]
Tu kahan kho gayi?
-[Where did you get lost?]
Koi aaya nahin
-[Nobody came!]
Do-peher ho gayi
-[Half of the day(life) has passed]
Koi aaya nahin
-[And nobody came!]
Zindagi Zindagi
-[Life O' Life]

Din aaye, din jaaye
-[Days come, days go]
Sadiyaan bhi gin aaye
-[Eons have goneby counting]
Sadiyaan re...
-[Eons...]
Tanhayee lipti hai...
-[Engulfed in loneliness...]
Lipti hai saansoun ki
-[Engulfed in the loneliness of breathing]
Rasiya re...
-[O dear one (lover)...]
Tere bina badi pyasi hai
-[Without you, they're very thirsty]
Tere bina hai pyasi re
-[Without you, they're thirsty]
Nainoun ki do saakhiyan re
-[The two; pair of eyes]
Tanha re...
-[Lonely...]
Main tanha re
-[I am lonely]

Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
-[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
-[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]
Zindagi Zindagi
-[Life O' Life]

Subah ka kohra hai
-[There is the fog of morning]
Sham ki dhool hai
-[There is the dust of evening]
Tanhayee hai
-[There is the loneliness]
Raat bhi sard hai
-[The night is also cold]
Dard hi dard hai
-[There is the continuous pain]
Ruswayee hai
-[There is the separation/humiliation]
Kaise katein?
-[How will this pass?]
Saansein uljhi hain
-[Breathing is complicated]
Raatein badi jhulsi jhulsi hain
-[The nights are very slow]
Naina, kori sadiyaan re
-[Eyes- empty for eons]
Tanha re...
-[Lonely...]
Main tanha re
-[I am lonely]

Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
-[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
-[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]

Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
-[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
-[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]
Tu kahan kho gayi?
-[Where did you get lost?]
Koi aaya nahin
-[Nobody came!]
Do-peher ho gayi
-[Half of the day(life) has passed)]
Koi aaya nahin
-[And nobody came!]

Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
-[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
-[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]


regards,
Waism.

[arr] Eid Mubarak! + Another BGM uploaded.

[kaissiom]

Eid Mubarak! to Rahman sir and all the fellow Rahmaniacs.  May this Eid
bring peace, happiness and prosperity in all of our lives, Inshallah.

Uploaded:
BGM - Mohabbat Hai Khudaa

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kaissiom
<http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kaissiom>
-Click on the link above
-Click on 'AR Rahman' folder
-Enjoy!

As always,
Wasim.

Re: [arr] Khwaja Ji (Unplugged) - Listen to that voice!

[kaissiom]

I wish I had a secret friend at Panchatan :)
Gomzy is right, I ripped it from the DVD.  The process is the opposite
of ripping the BGMs and plus 3 or 4 additional steps.  It's difficult,
but it's not impossible.  I'm glad my efforts paid off, I'm glad you
guys liked the piece.  The singing is just so soulful that it is hard
not to like it.

Regards,
Wasim.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No one actually. Wasim in all probabiltiy has used the song from the DVD
> from which one can get
> dedicated center output. But again its not not easy to get such an
> output(from a song that is) and thats where he is an expert :)
> 
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:07 PM, fani kalyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 
> >So whos da secret friend at panchatan???:P
> > neways thanks so much for da share :)
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:50 AM, kaissiom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
com<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>   Hello Rahmaniacs,
> >>>
> >>> I have uploaded Khwaja Ji, unplugged version - a part of it at
least.  I
> >>> can not upload the entire song for obvious reasons.
> >>>
> >>> Listen to that divine voice! He does not need any music, you
won't even
> >>> notice that the music is not there.
> >>>
> >>> I'm uploading this bit especially for Vithur and all other
Rahmaniacs who
> >>> make this group so special and worthwhile.  Keep up the good work.
> >>>
> >>> http://briefcase. yahoo.com/ kaissiom
> >>> - Click on the link above
> >>> - Click on the 'AR Rahman' folder
> >>> - Enjoy!
> >>>
> >>> As always,
> >>> Wasim.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> regards,
> >> Vithur
> >>
> >> ARR in my Heart;
> >> His Music in my Blood;
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes?
> >> Yahoo!
Movies<http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/movies/*http://sg.movies.yahoo.com/Showtimes/cinemas/>is
all you need
> >>
> >>
> >
> > 
> >
>

[arr] Khwaja Ji (Unplugged) - Listen to that voice!

[kaissiom]

Hello Rahmaniacs,

I have uploaded Khwaja Ji, unplugged version - a part of it at least.  I
can not upload the entire song for obvious reasons.

Listen to that divine voice! He does not need any music, you won't even
notice that the music is not there.

I'm uploading this bit especially for Vithur and all other Rahmaniacs
who make this group so special and worthwhile.  Keep up the good work.

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/kaissiom
  <%20http://briefcase.yahoo.com/kaissiom%20> - Click on the link above
- Click on the 'AR Rahman' folder
- Enjoy!

As always,
Wasim.

[arr] I Miss You Da - Extraordinary programming.

[kaissiom]

I did something yesterday which I have not done in a long time; put
the headphones on, turn the lights off, close my eyes and listen to
few Rahman songs before going to sleep. 

I usually try that routine with some very soothing songs like Ishwar
Allah, Anbai Sugama, Do Kadam, etc. to clear my head of all of the
day's chores.  But this time I went for Sakkarakatti because I have
not got a chance to listen to it on headphones.  

First was Taxi Taxi.  Even though I was very tired, I found myself
energized, enough to tap my feet on the ground, rock the chair and bob
my head to the hip reggaeton beat.

Next was I Miss You Da(shuffle mode).  There I was... totally
captivated by the first few seconds of the song.  Even though I had
heard it multiple times in my car, the effect on the headphones was
astounding.  As the song progressed, I found myself completely
immersed in the sound and indulging myself in the details of the song.
 "Wow" is the only way to describe it.  The precisely calculated
panning and fading effects on different instruments and vocals along
with the finetuned adjustment of the ambiance and texture of the sound
gave this, sort of, "life" to the song.  I felt as if I was encircled
by the Song, with Rahman hitting me from all directions; left, right,
center, front and back.  Surround like experience from a stereo song.
 The detailed programming that has gone into this song are nothing
short of extraordinary.  I couldn't go on to another song, listened to
it a couple more times.

As it was getting late at night, I took the headphone off after
listening to this masterpiece a few times... shaking my head in
disbelief of what I had just heard.  As I found myself exclaiming
"Unbelievable!" as I went to sleep, a part of my brain spoke to me, in
reassurance, and reminded me: 
"This is why You are a Rahman fan!"


p.s. Sorry, it may be irrelevant, but I thought I should share my
Rahmaniac experience.

regards,
Wasim.

[arr] Another awesome BGM from JA

[kaissiom]

Hello Rahmaniacs,

I had posted a BGM from JA earlier.   Here's another one of my
favorites.  Easily sounds like it could have been out of WOHE.

>>Click on the link below and then click on the 'AR Rahman' folder.

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kaissiom
<http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kaissiom>


Enjoy!,
Wasim.

[arr] Hindi vs. Tamil Chinnamma

[kaissiom]

Hi friends,

It's really refreshing to hear Chinnamma in a voice other than
Sukhwinder's.  Even though I don't understand the Tamil lyrics(the
Hindi lyrics by Sukhwinder didn't make any sense anyway), the Tamil
song in both male/female voice is a great welcome.   

However, it's missing the punch Hindi Chinnamma has towards the end-
around the 5:00 minute mark.  The, what sounds like Taiko, drums
towards the 5:00 minute mark onward and especially at around 5:11 is
definitely one of the highlights of the Hindi version.  

I always wonder if Rahman stores all the templates for all of his
songs, anticipating the he may have to use it again. He must be adding
the vocals of the singers as a very last layer, which can replaced by
other singers(different language), if necessary.  Whatever the logic,
I'm sure he had to develop it early on in his career when Roja, Bombay
and others were being dubbed in so many languages.  It's always
interesting to listen to Rahman's dubbed or remade songs because he
may modify the song in some way.  I try hard to identify these
changes, and there are definitely some changes in the Tamil Chinnama,
noticeably;
- The echo effect with the chorus in the beginning
- The sound is better, more crisper
- Missing the punch towards the end.
- Sukwinder's voice seems to be have been retained for the very last
"shara rara rara" 
- Missing the footsteps at the end.

I can't decide if I like the Hindi one better or the Tamil one, I
enjoy them both thoroughly.

regards,
Wasim.

[arr] Re: Aayutha Ezhuthu/Yuva voice track removed BGM

[kaissiom]

Hey Vithur, this is brilliant stuff, awesome quality- much better than
anything I have ripped!

While you are working with Yuva, you should rip "Lallan's theme" -
"Hey Dholna".  It's a haunting BGM.  I think the vocals are by Rahman,
but I'm not too sure because there is too much ambient noise with it.

Looking forward to some amazing voiceless pieces from you and Murali.

Thanks,
wasim.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Aayutha Ezhuthu/Yuva voice track removed BGM Hey guys 
> check out these BGM..s...Extracted from DTS audio
> 
> 
> I have removed the voice track and separated the BGM alone from the
> movie
> 
> Check out these ..They are in HQ audio with 3D stereo winding...
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
http://www.4shared.com/file/57270227/8c83eccb/ARRBGMAEArjun_calls_Meera.html
> 
> http://www.4shared.com/file/57272427/220758f2/ARRBGMAEFilm_Title.html
> 
> http://www.4shared.com/file/57272613/dc31b46/ARRBGMAEFrench_Class.html
> 
>
http://www.4shared.com/file/57273411/58f5c961/ARRBGMAEInba_meets_Michael.html
> 
>
http://www.4shared.com/file/57273416/c6915cc2/ARRBGMAEMichael_and_friends_in_village.html
> 
> http://www.4shared.com/file/57273695/94c5531e/ARRBGMAEMichael_Intro.html
> 
> http://www.4shared.com/file/57273694/e3c26388/ARRBGMAEStudents_Wins.html
> 
> Posted by  MURALI Freak ( Orkut)
> 
> 
> -- 
> regards,
> Vithur
> 
> ARR -- The Sweet Cube always
>

Re: [arr] Kaissiom's Stolen Treasure! Sorry !

[kaissiom]

Hello friends,

hi Sahel, [tujhko to main baadhmein dekhoonga]

I have tried to rip a few older songs from Rahman's DVDs in higher
quality. And this song is one of the DVD-quality songs I have.  Newer
songs, especially post year 2000 are already available in brilliant
quality.  But I have a few old albums in cassette-format, and it's
impossible to find CD's of these albums.  I have listened to these
cassettes tapes so many times that the quality/crispness of the audio
is faded and songs sound bland.  If I'm lucky to find a DVD of any of
these movies, I try to rip from the DVD, hence the DVD-quality.

I'm not sure if this quality sounds better than original CD, but this
is the best I have.  For those of you who downloaded it and enjoyed
it, you're welcome and Thank you!  

regards,
wasim.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "SURESH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, ethics apart!
> I just couldn't resist myself to listen to it.
> It's really really awesome clarity.
> Even, I can clearly distinguish the difference when I listen with high
> standard earphones. even small beats which never observed when I am
> listening with normal 256 or 320kbps.
> 
> I recommend everyone to buy original and rip at this quality (as per
> the DRM laws..uff...) when they are listening in their PC/laptop etc
> FEEL the NEW in ARR Songs...
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Dinesh Vaidya" 
> wrote:
> >
> > I find many of you going GA GA over a song which is NOT shared by the
> > creator ( even if it is a prank by his relative ) and nobody is
> > marking any token protest ? 
> > 
> > Its ok if I am in the minority here but I will prefer not to download
> > this song till Wassim himself releases it.
> > 
> > Best regards
> > Dinesh Vaidya
> > Pune 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "lalisingh20" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow,wow,wow! Simply no words to express my feelings. Thanks a
million
> > > for posting this amazing number,listening to it in such a crystal
> > > clear quality sound gave me goosebumps. It's hard enough to find the
> > > original hindi CD of Chor Chor, and listening to it in this
quality is
> > > only a dream come true. Thanks You Kaissiom for ripping and
Thank you
> > > Syed for sharing. One more addition to my "kaissiom" folder! I
simply
> > > don't understand how wasim rips these songs and BGMs, even with all
> > > the software and things.
> > > 
> > > I second Thulasi here, I wish I had wasim's external HD :)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Thulasi Ram" 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hello syed..this is such an amazing share and i havent heard thee
> > > thee song
> > > > with a crystal clear recording. m surprised with the audio
> quality.. m
> > > > wondering how the recordings in 90s is able to give such output.
> > really
> > > > great..
> > > > 
> > > > thiruda thiruda is a mindblowing album.. i hope ARR comes up with
> > > another
> > > > thee thee song in the near future.. possibly in Ghajini?!
> > > > 
> > > > thanx Wasim for the rip.. i wish i have ur external HD!!!
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:37 AM, syed.sahel  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >   Hi friends,
> > > > >
> > > > > My cousin, wasim, is on vacation, roaming around somwhere in
Inida
> > > and I
> > > > > have access to his external drive on which he stores his entire
> > > back-up of
> > > > > Rahman collection.  Wasim is really cool with me, we keep
playing
> > > pranks on
> > > > > each other so I thought why not play a prank on him and at the
> > > same time
> > > > > help all the rahmaniacs out.  He used to share a lot of pieces
> > > before, but
> > > > > he has stopped doing so in the past year or so for personal
> reasons.
> > > > >
> > > > > So as a prank, I have decided to share one of the rare gems
> from his
> > > > > library.  I know he will be mad at me, but I can deal with
that. 
> > > It was
> > > > > difficult to decide what to share; BGMs, rare pieces or
> > > DVD-Quality songs.
> > > > > After thinking for a long time, I decided to share just one
song.
> > >  One song
> > > > > can be taken as prank but more than one can get me 

[arr] Re: Voiceless BGMs - we are spoiled

[kaissiom]

Since you asked for my input: I believe everyone in this group
contributes to the group in their capacity and capability.. be it Gopal,
Vijay, me, Vithur, You(lalisingh) or any other member, including someone
who joined yesterday.  Together, we all make this group a worthwhile and
meaning place for all Rahman fans worldwide.  Let's not deviate from our
goal and let's celebrate Rahman's music in whatever way we can.. be it
truly voiceless or partially voiceless.

Let me also share a secret with you,  Vithur is a good friend of mine,
we have respect for each other and we learn from each other.  I think
it's best to take these topics off-line and contact the concerned
individuals directly with your feedback, suggestions and criticism, in
this case.. me and Vithur.  Trust me, I have received many emails of
appreciation, suggestions, and criticisms.  Every single one of them has
helped me improve my work.  Together, we all can work for the benefit of
the group.

I recently lost a very beloved pet to rare viral
disease,http://picasaweb.google.com/kaissiom/RumiSAssortedPics
<http://picasaweb.google.com/kaissiom/RumiSAssortedPics>  
<http://picasaweb.google.com/kaissiom/RumiFromABabyToAYearOld>  ,and  it
only reminded me that life is short... don't regret the past, cherish
the present and hope the best for the future.

Peace,
Wasim
p.s. I can't get the Kabhi Kabhi Aditi song out of my mind... it's on an
involuntary Repeat mode  :)

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "lalisingh20" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Obviously, I can't help it if you can't understand a simple point I
> was trying to make, and instead you decided take it in a negative
> direction.  Don't worry, no offense taken.  The other problem is
> people are way too sentimental and sensitive on this group.  Any time
> anyone criticizes... "Oh no, the world falls apart"..  be realistic
> and objective, grow up people.
>
> If someone makes a point, be objected and FIRST try to understand what
> they are saying... then comment. I never claimed to be better than
> anyone here.  I never claimed to know how to rip BGMs.  I'm not taking
> anyone's side or putting anyone down here.  Vithur's or Kaissiom they
> have both done a great job providing us with countless BGMs, it's
> people like them who make this group lively.
>
> My point was.. when you have two collections of Swades BGM.. 1)
> completely voiceless (kaissiom) and 2) partially voiceless (vithur).
> Which one would you keep?
>
> The point I was trying to make..AGAIN.. was just that I, and maybe
> other people as well, prefer completely voiceless over partially
> voiceless.  And then I stated that we are so spoiled because of that.
>we are so spoiled with completely voiceless BGM that we do not
> fully appreciate partially voiceless BGMs.  Do I not like Vithur's
> work or can I do better than him? NO.  I grab everything Vithur or
> Kaissiom post on here.. but when I listen to partially voiceless
> BGMs.. I wish they were completely voiceless.  Don't tell me you know
> wish that either.  We are here's for Rahman's music, not to listen to
> an incomplete dialogue from a movie.
>
> Anyway, you tried to take this comment in a negative way, so I had to
> clarify my point again.  Let's keep it at that.
>
> Let's see what the other two gentlemen (vithur and Kaissiom) have to
> say about this.
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Kumaresh-n kumaresh.n86@ wrote:
> >
> > Dats a good 1 Gomzy
> >
> >
> > 2008/5/10 Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@:
> >
> > >   I would appreciate if you could try your hand in ripping any one
> BGM of
> > > any movie. And oh, no offense!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:45 AM, lalisingh20 lalisingh20@
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>   Thanks to kaissiom and Aj, I think we are spoiled in this group
> with
> > >> wonderful voiceless BGMs. Honestly, no offense to Vithur or
anyone
> > >> who is putting in effort to rip BGMs, I only like the BGMs posted
by
> > >> kaissiom now, since AJ is not posting for a long time. Only
because
> > >> of quality and the fact that they are truly voiceless.
> > >>
> > >> Although it is great to collect all the BGMs Vithur and others
are
> > >> posting, they are not as enjoyable as the one kaissiom posts,
because
> > >> they still have some voice in the background... which at least
kills
> > >> my mood. I want to be able to put the BGM CD in the stereo, just
like
> > >> how I put in a music CD, and enjoy the music. Sometime the ones
with
> > >> the voi

Re: [ARR] Times of India writes about us!

[kaissiom]

Congratulations to everyone for making the group proud!!


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The times of India, Blore edition. page 21
> 
> Mad about Rahman, dil se These fans live and breathe A R Rahman's music,
> finds
> Sharmishta Koushik
> 
> It was the year 1992. The film Roja was released and with it, a new
> music sensation blossomed in the Indian film industry, attracting
droves of
> fans, mesmerized by his melodies. Their chotti si asha is simply to
have the
> pleasure of listening to A R Rahman's music and perhaps, watching him
> perform live, and if they were really lucky, say a few words to the
musical
> genius in person. Meet the A R Rahman Fans.
> What started off as an e-group, set up by Gopal Srinivasan, a
> Bangalore-based consultant, is, today, a veritable database of all
things
> Rahman. From several media interviews to rare recordings of his
tracks and
> the inside information on when a new album will be released, these
die-hard
> fans are truly connoisseurs of Rahman's art. "The intent behind
establishing
> this group was straightforward — to use the power of the internet to
network
> with Rahman's fans around the world so that we could share the joy of
> listening to his music. In many ways, it is Rahman himself who is
> responsible for the popularity of this group — his music and his appeal
> cutting across barriers. I am guilty of initially under-estimating the
> global reach of his music — little did we realize that we would have
people
> from so many countries across the world joining in," says Gopal
Srinivasan. And
> indeed, today, the e-group has over 13,000 members.
> On a rather sultry Sunday evening, a few members of the group in
> Bangalore gathered in front of the rose garden in Cubbon Park to
talk about
> their passion. Quite befitting, considering that for most of them, their
> love affair with A R Rahman's music began with the film Roja (rose), and
> like his music, their devotion to his talent has only increased from
> strength to strength. Says Kangan Upadhyay, who works in a software
company,
> "We heard the songs of Roja before they were officially released. And
> although I didn't know the language, I could relate to those songs.''
> And she gives credit to the music director for her superb scores
in her
> II PU exam. "At that time, the music of Alaipayuthe was released,
and I kept
> listening to it all the time while studying. I scored 99% in Maths.
I kept
> humming the songs in my mind even as I was writing the paper,'' she
recalls
> with excitement.
> The way Rahman's compositions revolutionized Indian film music is
> something the fans immensely respect. "He brought in a whiff of
freshness,''
> says Balaji Rajagopal, a chartered accountant. "He brought to Indian
films a
> sound which was, until then, only heard in jingles,'' says
Chandrashekhar
> Ganesh, a techie. "Earlier, viewers would walk
> out of the theatre for a smoke when the songs would come on.
Rahman's music
> changed all that,'' says Gomtesh Upadhyay aka Gomzy, a techie.
> "He's even a good singer,'' says Vithun Kumar, a BE student. Adds
> Shahnawaz Gaffoor, a techie, "His music is international.''
> Not surprisingly, Rahman's concerts are always a grand event,
akin to
> international acts performing in India. And these fans ensure they
are there
> to watch Rahman live. Most of them took off to Chennai recently,
when Rahman
> performed there for a concert organized by The Times of India. In
fact, it
> was during the 2005 concert in Bangalore when the city's fans met
each other
> in person. They volunteered backstage and even had T-shirts created
> especially for the event.
> Rehearsals are when they get to interact with the maestro. Some
of the
> members have even met him at his residence in Chennai. "Once, I went
to meet
> him at his place. As he was busy he told me to come the next day. He
asked
> me if I was a non-vegetarian. Since I wasn't, he ensured that vegetarian
> food was ordered for me,'' says Prabhu Krishnamurthy, a techie.
> During the 2005 concert, they even gifted Rahman a montage of
all his
> album covers, about 94 — both film and non-film scores. It now
adorns a wall
> in his studio. And needless to say, if a fan wants to meet him at the
> studio, those from this e-group are allowed right in. Rahman has even
> dedicated a colouring book for children, released during the Pray For Me
> Brother tour, to the e-group in November, 2007.
> The members definitely deserve such a token of appreciation,
considering
> they have taken pains to count the number of musical genres he has
explored.
> According to them, his music spans about 36-38 genres.
> The Bangalore-based fans meet up from time to time, if someone
gets hold
> of the latest copy of Rahman's album or a rare DVD of his work. They
> recently met to watch a behind-the-scenes DVD of the musical Bombay
Dreams,
> which shows Rahman actually composing som

[arr] Re: Voiceless BGMs - Explained!

[kaissiom]

You are on the right 'track' Prashanth, no pun intended.  AC3 is the
way to go.  And I have also used doom9 in the past.

To add to the software, may I suggest: Nero Editor & if you can get it
, Adobe Audition, DVD to AC3 Ripper.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "prashanth.palanisamy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hi,
> gr8 writeup dude ...would like to add something 
> about the software(the hardware thing u said was greek and latin 4
> me...and gr8 u had the guts to cut the wires of your system :0)
> when i did the voiceless bgms for some(Alaipayuthey,Tenali,Rhythm(was
> just 2 good!!!),Padiyaapa ,Minsara Kanavu) 
> the basic funda as u said was to find a dvd ripper to convert it to a
> audio format ...more specifically i converted the dvd vobs to ac3
> files (which can store all the channels of the movie and the software
> i used is now in the dumps..)and then use an ac3 to mp3
> converter(i used a software called headac3h...i think!!!) by choosing
> which channels i wanted to downmix(either surround or front
> channels)the downmixing was a trial and error thing...
> and i used the resources from this site to get me going...
> http://www.doom9.org/
> 
> its been sometime since this site was updated but nevertheless it has
>  good stuff about this thing...
> 
> hope i helped !!!
> :)
> 
> thnaks and regards,
> prashanth
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, just me!  wrote:
> >
> > GREAT STUFF! thanks alot but those who use software can u guys pls
> tell us wat softwares u use?
> > 
> > Thulasi Ram  wrote:  
> knowledge showcased! brilliant!!
> > 
> > appreaciate ur effort to share this to us Wasim!
> > 
> > 
> > On Feb 19, 2008 7:49 PM, kaissiom  wrote:
> >  Voiceless BGMs - Explained!
> > 
> > I'm not much of any expert on this topic, as I happened to
> accidentally or unintentionally discover the process of ripping
> voiceless BGMs.  There may be members on this group who have expertise
> in this area who may be able to shed some more light on this topic. 
> Following article is my limited understanding of this subject, please
> correct me if I am wrong.
> >   
> > First, some definitions:
> > * For the sake of discussion L refers to Left and R refers to Right
> (speakers)
> > 
> > Mono: Single channel (no difference in L or R speaker, both
> reproduce one sound)
> >   L speaker = R speaker = One sound from both.
> > [Note]: Rahman has been very disappointed that 'Kabhi Na Kabhi' was
> recorded in stereo, but released in Mono.
> > 
> > Stereo: Two or more channels (generally two channel, separate
> recording/reproduction of sound, L and R)
> >   L speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > + R speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > = 3 different sounds possible: L sound + Shared L/R sound + R sound
> > [Note]: Think of it as a Venn diagram: Both L and R speakers
> reproduce same sound most of the time, but will also have variations
> of their own.  Quite evident in 'Daud' - Title track, the entire track
> has variations in Left and Right channel.
> >   
> > Stereo Surround: 5.1 or higher (5 channels plus 1 LFE;
> Dolby-Digital,dts)
> > L Front speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > +R Front speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > +C Center speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> >   +L Rear speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > +R Rear speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > +LFE Low-Frequency Effects(sub-woofer)
> > = Surround Sound experience.
> > [Note]: Most, but not all, DVD-Videos have 5.1 surround sound.  And
> also the rare, but dying, DVD-Audio format falls in this category.
> >   
> > There's no limitation on the number of channels, I find some English
> movies with 7.1 surround sound , you can also buy a 10.1 sound
> systems, if you can find source to utilize those channels.
> > 
> > Almost all Media formats can reproduce mono and stereo, but not
> surround:
> >   Cassette tapes: Stereo and Mono
> > CD: Stereo and Mono
> > VCD: Stereo and Mono
> > DVD: Surround, Stereo and Mono
> > 
> > How does this relate to voiceless BGMs?
> > Voiceless BGMs are only possible from surround sound, given that
> they were recorded and reproduce as surround.  So, that leaves us with
> DVD-Audio, which I won't get into, and DVD-Video, by which we mean
> regular DVD movies.
> >   
> > How are BGMs recorded on DVDs?
> > I don't know exactly, but that's up to the composer and the sound
>

Re: [arr] Voiceless BGMs - Explained!

[kaissiom]

Thanks for the compliments Vithur, but your work is no less
commendable than mine.  Your contribution to the BGM count is greatly
appreciated.  Hope to see some voiceless BGMs from you soon.

Regards,
Wasim.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear Kaissiom Bhai
> 
> Thanks for the excellent write up. I will archive your mail for my
guidance
> always.
> 
> Your collection of BGMs are the best , and no second thoughts on that. I
> will strive to come somewhere close to you..
> 
> 
> On 2/20/08, kaissiom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Voiceless BGMs - Explained!
> >
> > I'm not much of any expert on this topic, as I happened to
accidentally or
> > unintentionally discover the process of ripping voiceless BGMs. 
There may
> > be members on this group who have expertise in this area who may
be able to
> > shed some more light on this topic.  Following article is my limited
> > understanding of this subject, please correct me if I am wrong.
> >
> > First, some definitions:
> > * For the sake of discussion *L* refers to *Left* and *R* refers
to *Right
> > * (speakers)
> >
> > *Mono*: Single channel (no difference in L or R speaker, both
reproduce
> > one sound)
> > *L speaker = R speaker = One sound from both.*
> > *[Note]: Rahman has been very disappointed that 'Kabhi Na Kabhi' was
> > recorded in stereo, but released in Mono.*
> >
> > *Stereo:* Two or more channels (generally two channel, separate
> > recording/reproduction of sound, L and R)
> > *L speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > + R speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > = 3 different sounds possible: L sound + Shared L/R sound + R sound*
> > *[Note]: Think of it as a Venn diagram: Both L and R speakers
reproduce
> > same sound most of the time, but will also have variations of
their own.
> > Quite evident in 'Daud' - Title track, the entire track has
variations in
> > Left and Right channel.*
> >
> > *Stereo Surround*: 5.1 or higher (5 channels plus 1 LFE;
> > Dolby-Digital,dts)
> > *L Front speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > +R Front speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > +C Center speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > +L Rear speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > +R Rear speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
> > +LFE Low-Frequency Effects(sub-woofer)
> > = Surround Sound experience.*
> > *[Note]: Most, but not all, DVD-Videos have 5.1 surround sound. 
And also
> > the rare, but dying, DVD-Audio format falls in this category.*
> >
> > There's no limitation on the number of channels, I find some English
> > movies with 7.1 surround sound , you can also buy a 10.1 sound
systems, if
> > you can find source to utilize those channels.
> >
> > Almost all Media formats can reproduce mono and stereo, but not
surround:
> > Cassette tapes: Stereo and Mono
> > CD: Stereo and Mono
> > VCD: Stereo and Mono
> > *DVD: Surround*, Stereo and Mono
> >
> > *How does this relate to voiceless BGMs?*
> > Voiceless BGMs are only possible from surround sound, given that
they were
> > recorded and reproduce as surround.  So, that leaves us with
DVD-Audio,
> > which I won't get into, and DVD-Video, by which we mean regular
DVD movies.
> > *
> > How are BGMs recorded on DVDs?*
> > I don't know exactly, but that's up to the composer and the sound
> > engineer.  But in order to qualify as surround sound, they have to
record
> > different sounds for different channels. For example they may
record actors'
> > voices for the CENTER channel and the background score for the
two-REAR
> > speakers and a combination of both voices and score on the two-FRONT
> > speakers  (this is hypothetical, simple and straightforward example):
> > *L/R Front* speakers: Combination/layers of both voices and background
> > score
> > *CENTER* speaker: Only voices
> > *L/R Rear** *speakers: *Only background score*
> >
> > You can imagine watching a movie and an extra sound effect from
back, or
> > someone yelling from behind you or a car whooshing by.  And
remember, they
> > can try many different combinations with 5 different channels.
> >
> > *How to extract voiceless BGMs?*
> > Simply put, you have to tap into the  channels that only contain the
> > 'Background Score'.   In the simple example given above, it would
be the
> > 'L/R Rear Speaker/Channel'.
> >
> > *How do kaissiom and AJ extract voiceless BGMs?*
> > Well, I can't sp

[arr] My favorite BGM in Jodhaa Akbar

[kaissiom]

Hi guys,

I've uploaded my favorite BGM in Jodhaa Akbar, when Akbar goes to Amer. 
Coincidently it comes in seconds after the BGM Thulasi had uploaded. 
That BGM had touched him, and this is the one that stood out for me. 
It's 'Naghmein hi naghmein  hain' part from In Lamhoun Ke... played fast
on sitar.

Check it out:

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/kaissiom
<http://briefcase.yahoo.com/kaissiom>

Regards,
Wasim.

[arr] Voiceless BGMs - Explained!

[kaissiom]

Voiceless BGMs - Explained!

I'm not much of any expert on this topic, as I happened to accidentally
or unintentionally discover the process of ripping voiceless BGMs. 
There may be members on this group who have expertise in this area who
may be able to shed some more light on this topic.  Following article is
my limited understanding of this subject, please correct me if I am
wrong.

First, some definitions:
* For the sake of discussion L refers to Left and R refers to Right
(speakers)

Mono: Single channel (no difference in L or R speaker, both reproduce
one sound)
L speaker = R speaker = One sound from both.
[Note]: Rahman has been very disappointed that 'Kabhi Na Kabhi' was
recorded in stereo, but released in Mono.

Stereo: Two or more channels (generally two channel, separate
recording/reproduction of sound, L and R)
L speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
+ R speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
= 3 different sounds possible: L sound + Shared L/R sound + R sound
[Note]: Think of it as a Venn diagram: Both L and R speakers reproduce
same sound most of the time, but will also have variations of their own.
Quite evident in 'Daud' - Title track, the entire track has variations
in Left and Right channel.

Stereo Surround: 5.1 or higher (5 channels plus 1 LFE;
Dolby-Digital,dts)
L Front speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
+R Front speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
+C Center speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
+L Rear speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
+R Rear speaker: recorded/reproduced separately
+LFE Low-Frequency Effects(sub-woofer)
= Surround Sound experience.
[Note]: Most, but not all, DVD-Videos have 5.1 surround sound.  And also
the rare, but dying, DVD-Audio format falls in this category.

There's no limitation on the number of channels, I find some English
movies with 7.1 surround sound , you can also buy a 10.1 sound systems,
if you can find source to utilize those channels.

Almost all Media formats can reproduce mono and stereo, but not
surround:
Cassette tapes: Stereo and Mono
CD: Stereo and Mono
VCD: Stereo and Mono
DVD: Surround, Stereo and Mono

How does this relate to voiceless BGMs?
Voiceless BGMs are only possible from surround sound, given that they
were recorded and reproduce as surround.  So, that leaves us with
DVD-Audio, which I won't get into, and DVD-Video, by which we mean
regular DVD movies.

How are BGMs recorded on DVDs?
I don't know exactly, but that's up to the composer and the sound
engineer.  But in order to qualify as surround sound, they have to
record different sounds for different channels. For example they may
record actors' voices for the CENTER channel and the background score
for the two-REAR speakers and a combination of both voices and score on
the two-FRONT speakers  (this is hypothetical, simple and
straightforward example):
L/R Front speakers: Combination/layers of both voices and background
score
CENTER speaker: Only voices
L/R Rear speakers: Only background score

You can imagine watching a movie and an extra sound effect from back, or
someone yelling from behind you or a car whooshing by.  And remember,
they can try many different combinations with 5 different channels.

How to extract voiceless BGMs?
Simply put, you have to tap into the  channels that only contain the
'Background Score'.   In the simple example given above, it would be the
'L/R Rear Speaker/Channel'.

How do kaissiom and AJ extract voiceless BGMs?
Well, I can't speak for AJ, but I know he uses some software.  And as
far as I'm concerned, I can write a longer post than this one trying to
explain how I accidentally did it.  My method is not all software- it's
combination of hardware and software.   I was fixing my computer and my
home-theater system set-up, such that I can play the music from my
computer on my surround sound system.  This required additional cables,
adapters, etc.. but I accidentally cut one wire and attached it in the
wrong place somewhere on the soundcard and amplifier.  And when I played
a movie on my computer, all I could hear was voices, no BGM.  When I
switched some wires.. I got BGM, no voices... hence, voiceless BGMs.  I
still have to switch these wires... every time I have to extract
voiceless BGMs  ;-)

How can one extract voiceless BGMs?
-[Software]- Easiest way to do it: Find a DVD-ripping software that not
only rips audio from DVD, but rips audio as separate channels.  Once you
have all the audio in different channels, keep the channel with BGM,
discard the rest.
-[Hardware]- Complicated way of doing it: Cut some wires from the
surround sound system and record it from the amplifier - this is how I
do it.  It takes me about 5 to 6 hours to do a movie because I perform
additional editing using software to enhance the quality.  I use
hardware(amplifier/soundcard) to extract the audio and then use
software(SoundForge) to enhance it.

Are there any caveats

[arr] Re: Jodha Akbar is another Mangal Pandey

[kaissiom]

This has turned out to be one of the longest threads in recent memory.
 It all comes down to personal opinions, but I look at it this way.. 
Would you rather had Rahman not make any music for 'Parasuram' or
'Mangal Pandey' or 'Dil Se' or ''?

I cherish Parasuram and Mangal Pandey, but since people have picked on
these... let's see... would you have rather not have Main Vari Vari,
Rasiya, Muppatha Nimidham, Mangal Mangal, Kathakali, Holi Re, Kadhal
Vettukilli?

I don't know about you but if I were to lose these two albums, God
forbid, or any ARR album for that matter, I would be desperate to find
and buy these albums as soon as possible.

I guess something is always better than nothing, and too much
expectations leads to disappointment.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Subramanian H K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> 
> enjoy ATM till the next album releases..
>

[arr] Re: Inlamhoke Instrumental

[kaissiom]

One word man: Awesome!  

This is great, keep 'em coming.  And you are right about softwares
when it comes to removing vocals, there is NO way you can actually
completely remove vocals.  I've tried it with many softwares,
including Sonic Sound Forge, and this is as good as it gets.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Thineshan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> there you all go, I've done an isntrumental of one of my favs in JA.
> The BG is intact, while the vocal is gone, so an instrument (you guys
> can guess what it is) is replaced with the voice portions. 
> 
> http://www.sendspace.com/file/zfr8jp
>

[arr] TRANSLATION: Marhaba Mustapha (Al-Risalah)

[kaissiom]

Hi Guys,

So, I got hold of Al-Risalah.  It has a total of 6 tracks.  One by
Rahman, 'Marhaba Mustapha'.  There is one by some Liyakat Ajmeri, and
the rest are by some Raj Verma.

One correction... this track is not exactly a Naat, it's a Nasheed. 
Naat is generally referred to any religious poems/shayari/verses. 
Whether a Naat contains music or not is completely up to the producer of
Naat, it doesn't have to be one way or other.  Usually Naats praise the
God, but when they are specifically meant for prophet Muhammed(PBUH),
they are called Nasheeds.  Therefore, this album has all Nasheeds.

Marhaba Mustafa is an awesome Nasheed, very simple yet spiritual.  The
one thing different about it is the arabic rhythm/singing layered with
guitar/strings, and it has the regular harmonium and claps.  It's a
soul-stirring song, as soon as I heard it, it kept on repeating it my
head, it has that effect.  Soulful singing by Rahman!!

Again, I've attempted to translate this piece as requested by some of
you.  Please forgive me and change it, if deemed necessary.


Album: Al-Risalah(2008)
Track: Marhaba Mustapha
Composer: A.R. Rahman
Lyrics: Hazrat Khaja Syed Shah Ameenullah Hussainy (R.A)



Marhaba, Ya Mustafa
-[Pleasant Greetings! O Mustafa (prophet Muhammed)]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him (prophet Muhammed)]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]

Aye Habib-e-Khuda
-[O, beloved of the God]
Ahmad-e-Mujtaba
-[Praiseworthy of being the Chosen One]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]


Sooraj ka uthna, Chand chamakana
-[The rising of the Sun, the light of the Moon]
Hai aap se
-[Is all due to you]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]

Fiza mein thandak, Phool mehekna
-[The coolness in the breeze, the fragrance in the flower]
Hai aap se
-[Is all due to you]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]



Saara sadhkha aap ka, Saara sadhkha aap ka
-[All the blessing are due to you, All the blessings are due to you]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]


Marhaba, Ya Mustafa
-[Pleasant Greetings! O Mustafa]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]


Mutmayeen hai qhalb mera, Zikr se aapke
[My mind/body/soul finds peace/satisfaction by `remembering'
you]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]


Dil nahin chahata nazar hataoun, Roze se aapke
-[My heart does not want me to see any other sight, except your shrine]
Kuch bhi nahin mujhse raha, Kuch bhi nahin mujhse raja
-[I'm incapable of doing anything, I'm incapable of doing
anything]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]


Marhaba, Ya Mustafa
-[Pleasant Greetings! O Mustafa]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]
Salallahu-alaihi-wa-sallam
-[Peace be upon him]

[arr] Huge confusion with JA audio.

[kaissiom]

One of my friends called me and we were talking about JA.  He said he
liked the Azeem-O-Shaan song, he then continued on with how he doesn't
like the dialogues within the song, and also he didn't like the
quality of other songs... short..and unclear.

Upon further inquiry I found that he downloaded JA audio from 
website online.  He pointed me to that website and what they actually
have is the rips from the JA theatrical promo and the promos running
on TV.  Someone, somewhere, uploaded a package of JA audio... which
includes these rips and also the one Hindi song from WOHE.

Upon doing a google search for JA audio, I found that this very
package is circulating the internet as the official, exclusive JA
audio.  Given that a lot of people are going to download and listen to
songs before buying the CD, I'm concerned that they may call off JA
audio as 'below-average' without even listening to the real thing.  My
friend was confident that he had downloaded the real thing.  I told
him to go by the CD as it's very well worth it.

So, it could be a good thing or a bad thing...I'm not sure how it
could effect the audio sales, it could go either way.

[arr] Mulitple singers in Khwaja?

[kaissiom]

Hi all,

I keep reading in reviews about "Rahman and the other singers in Khwaja"..

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's all Rahman.  I believe he's singing
in different pitches and what not, and with the layering and effects
used, it sounds like different singers.  I think some people will be
really surprised to listen to it closely and find Rahman hi Rahman in
the song.  I think Rahman has touched new heights with the qawalli, as
far as singing goes.

[arr] TRANSLATION - Khwaja Mere Khwaja

[kaissiom]

Hi all, I have made a sincere attempt to translate this Sufi piece.  As
it is, it's quite difficult to literally translate pure Urdu words, and
add Sufi words to that and the task becomes even more challenging,
simply because it's impossible to find english words with the same
literal meaning.  I've tried to capture the essence of the qawalli by
keeping the lyrics simple.  Please feel free to correct it, if
necessary.

Here's a little background to help you understand..

Hazrat Khwaja Ghareeb-un-Nawaaz was born in Iran and later migrated to
India.  He was the supporter of the weak, helper of the poor and gained
much love and respect from all people.  He is a descendant of Hazrat
Ali(R.A), who was the son-in-law of Hazrat prophet Muhammed(PBUH.)  Find
more info here.. http://www.gharibnawaz.com/g_teachings.htm


Khwaja ji.. Khwaja
-[Khwaja, O Khwaja]
Khwaja ji.. Khwajaji
-[Khwaja, O Khwaja]

Ya Ghareeb-un-Nawaaz
-[O supporter of the poor]
Ya Ghareeb-un-Nawaaz
-[O supporter of the poor]
Ya Ghareeb-un-Nawaaz
-[O supporter of the poor]

Ya Moin-ud-deen
-[O helper/assistant of the Faith]
Ya Moin-ud-deen
-[O helper/assistant of the Faith]

Ya Khwajaji, ya Khwajaji
-[O Khwaja, O Khwaja]
Ya Khwajaji, ya Khwajaji
-[O Khwaja, O Khwaja]

Khawaja mere Khawaja, Dil me samaja
-[Khawaja, O Khawaja, come reside in my heart.]
Shahoun ka shah tu, Ali ka dulaara
-[You are the king of the kings, you are the beloved of Ali(R.A).]

Khawaja mere Khawaja, Dil me samajaa
-[Khawaja, 0 Khawaja, come reside in my heart.]
Shahoun ka shah tu, Ali ka dulaara
-[You are the king of the kings, your are the beloved of Ali(R.A).]

Khawaja mere Khawaja, Dil me samajaa
-[Khawaja, O Khawaja, come reside in my heart.]
Khawaja mere Khawaja, Dil me samajaa
-[Khawaja, O Khawaja, come reside in my heart.]


Bekassoun ki taqhdeer, Tune hai sawaari
-[The fate of helpless/needy/poor, you have changed]
Bekassoun ki taqhdeer, Tune hai sawaari
-[The fate of helpless/needy/poor, you have changed]

Khwaja, mere Khwaja
-[Kwaja O my Kwhaja]


Tere darbaar mein Khawaja, Noor to hai dekha
-[In your court Khwaja, we have seen the spiritual light(aura)]
Tere darbaar mein Khawaja, Sarr jhukate hain auliyaa
-[In your court Kwaja, you are held high by all other
Valiees(Saitns/Mystics)]

Tu hai Mutawwalli Khawaja, rutbaa hai pyaara
-[You are the Caretaker Khwaja, you have a beautiful title]

Chahane se tujhko Khwajaji, Mustafa(PBUH) ko paaya
-[If we love you(also), we may get the love of Mustafa(prophet Muhammed
PBUH)]


Khawaja mere Khawaja, Dil me samajaa
-[Khawaja, 0 Khawaja, come reside in my heart.]
Shahoun ka shah tu, Ali ka dulaara
-[You are the king of the kings, the beloved of Ali(R.A).]


Mere peer ka sadkha, Mere peer ka sadkha
-[Thanks to my Peer(saint/priest), Thanks to my Peer(saint)]

Hai mere peer ka sadhka, Tera daaman hai thaama
-[Thanks to my Peer(saint/priest), through whom, I have come to know
about you]

Kwajaji..
-[O Khwaja]

Talli har balaa hamari, chaaya hai qhumaar tera
-[All our worries/bad omens are gone, we are under your euphoria]

Jitna bhi rashque karein beshaq, to kamm hai aye mere Khwaja
-[No matter how much we envy you, it will be little]

Tere khadmoun ko mere rahnumaa, nahin choddna gawaara
-[It doesn't feel right to leave your side, you are our guide]

Khawaja mere Khawaja, Dil me samaja
-[Khawaja, O my Khawaja, come reside in my heart.]
Shahoun ka shah tu, Ali ka dulaara
-[You are the king of the kings, the beloved of Ali(R.A).]

Khawaja mere Khawaja, Dil me samaja
-[Khawaja, O my Khawaja, come reside in my heart.]
Shahoun ka shah tu, Ali ka dulaara
-[You are the king of the kings, the beloved of Ali(R.A).]

Khawaja mere Khawaja, Dil me samaja
-[Khawaja, O my Khawaja, come reside in my heart.]
Khawaja mere Khawaja, Dil me samaja
-[Khawaja, O my Khawaja, come reside in my heart.]

Bekassoun ki taqhdeer, Tune hai sawaari
-[The fate of helpless/needy/poor, you have changed]
Bekassoun ki taqhdeer, Tune hai sawaari
-[The fate of helpless/needy/poor, you have changed]

Khawaja mere Khawaja, Dil me samaja
-[Khawaja, O my Khawaja, come reside in my heart.]
Shahoun ka shah tu, Ali ka dulaara
-[You are the king of the kings, the beloved of Ali(R.A).]

[arr] TRANSLATION - In Lamhoun Ke Daaman Mein

[kaissiom]

I have attempted to translate this beautiful song here.  Feel free to
correct it if necessary.


Inn lamhoun ke daaman mein, paakeezah se risthey hain
-[Within the passage of these moments, reside some pure relations]

Koi kalima mohabbat ka, dohraate farishtey hain
-[The angels are repeating the prayers of love]

Khamosh si hai zameen, hairaan sa falaq hai
-[The Earth is silent, the sky is amazed]

Ek noor hi noor sa ab aasmaan talak hai
-[A kind of aura fills the sky]

Naghmein hi naghmein hain jaagti soti fizaaoun mein
-[There are poems in the ups and downs of the wind]

Husn hai saari adaaoun mein, ishq hai jaise hawaaon mein
-[There is beauty in every gesture, love is in the air]

Naghmein hi naghmein hain jaagti soti fizaaoun mein
-[There are poems in the ups and downs of the wind]

Husn hai saari adaaoun mein, ishq hai jaise hawaaon mein
-[There is beauty in every gesture, love is in the air]



Kaisa yeh ishq hia, kaisa yeh Khwaab hai
-[What kind of love is this? What kind of dream is this?]

Kaise jazbaat ka ummda sailaab hai
-[What kind of emotions have brought about this flood(of emotions)?]

Kaisa yeh ishq hia, kaisa yeh Khwaab hai
-[What kind of love is this? What kind of dream is this?]

Kaise jazbaat ka ummda sailaab hai
-[What kind of emotions have brought about this flood(of emotions)?]

Din badle, raatein badli, baatien badli
-[Days have changed, nights have changed, conversations have changed]

Jeene ke andaaz hi badle hai
-[The whole lifestyle has changed]



Inn lamhoun ke daaman mein, paakeezah se risthey hain
-[Within the passage of these moments, reside some pure relations]

Koi kalima mohabbat ka, dohraate farishtey hain
-[The angels are repeating the prayers of love]



Samay ne yeh kya kiya, badal di hai kaya
-[What has the time done, it has changed everything]

Tumhe maine paa liya, mujhe tumne paaya
-[I found(accepted) you, you found(accepted) me]

Mile dekho aise hain hum, ke do sur ho jaise maddham
-[We have come together in such a way, like two inter-twined melodies]

Koi zyada na koi kam kisi raag mein
-[Melodies that are not higher or lower(than each other) on any note]

Ke prem aag mein, jalte dono hi ke tan bhi hai man bhi
-[In the fire of love, burn both body and heart]

Mann bhi hai tann bhi, tann bhi hai mann bhi, mann bhi hai tann bhi
-[Both heart and body, body and heart, heart and body]



Mere khwaboun ke is gulistaan mein, tumse hi to bahaar chaayee hai
-[In my garden of dream, flowers have blossomed because of you]

Phooloun mein rang mere the lekin, inn mein khushboo tumhise aayi hai.
-[The flowers had my colors, but they have fragnance because of you]



Kyun hai yeh arzoo, kyun hai yeh joostujuu
-[Why do I have this desire? Why do I have this drive(motivation)?]

Kyun dil bechain hai, kyun dil betaab hai
-[Why is my heart restless? Why is my heart unpeaceful?]

Kyun hai yeh arzoo, kyun hai yeh joostujuu
-[Why do I have this desire? Why do I have this drive(motivation)?]

Kyun dil bechain hai, kyun dil betaab hai
-[Why is my heart restless? Why is my heart unpeaceful?]

Din badle, raatein badli, baatien badli
-[Days have changed, nights have changed, conversations have changed]

Jeene ke andaaz hi badle hai
-[The whole lifestyle has changed]



Inn lamhoun ke daaman mein, paakeezah se risthey hain
-[Within the passage of these moments, reside some pure relations]

Koi kalima mohabbat ka, dohraate farishtey hain
-[The angels are repeating the prayers of love]


Naghmein hi naghmein hain jaagti soti fizaaoun mein
-[There are poems in the ups and downs of the wind]

Husn hai saari adaaoun mein, ishq hai jaise hawaaon mein
-[There is beauty in every gesture, love is in the air]

Naghmein hi naghmein hain jaagti soti fizaaoun mein
-[There are poems in the ups and downs of the wind]

Husn hai saari adaaoun mein, ishq hai jaise hawaaon mein
-[There is beauty in every gesture, love is in the air]

Ishq hai jaise hawaaon mein
-[Love is in the air]

[arr] You know you are a Rahman fan when...

[kaissiom]

Hi guys,

The other day, someone accused me of being a  "..typical Rahman fan!"
And my response was "Really? In that case, I stand guilty?"

I then thought about it and wondered what is a "typical" Rahman fan?

What is it that gets us all together here on this group... regardless of
race, religion, gender, age, language, geographical locations ?

Here's my best attempt at defining a "typical" Rahman fan... of course,
it's subjective but let me know if you guys agree with any of it.  These
are my personal opinions and are meant no offense to anyone.

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kaissiom/lst?.dir=/AR+Rahman&.view=l
<http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kaissiom/lst?.dir=/AR+Rahman&.view=l>



p.s.  For anyone who is interested in Windows tricks... you can download
the  Word document and try to find a hidden .mp3 in the document.

Regards,
Wasim.

Re: [arr] BGM Quiz

[kaissiom]

It's from Saathiya/Alaipayuthey - Hospital Scene.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think its for Alaipayudhey... ( Saathiya )
> 
> On 1/11/08, sureshmechnit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   http://backgroundscore.blogspot.com/2008/11/background-score-16.html
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> regards,
> Vithur
> 
> A.R.RAHMAN -  THE ABODE OF DIVINE MUSIC
>

Re: [arr] Partial lyrics of Azeem-O-Shaan Shahenshah

[kaissiom]

Really,

I keep hearing... 
Azeem-O-Shaan Shahenshah, 
A.  R.   Rahman!  :)


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Thulasi Ram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> oh ya dude.. i was thinking it as marhaba too. Javed saab lyrics
seems to be
> amazing
> 
> On Dec 13, 2007 3:24 AM, naztitude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >   Well all of us thought it was "marhabaa" instead of "Farma Ravaa"!
> > Almost all the time after the concert, our entire room was
> > reverbrating with Marhaabaa!! When we actually worked and now we try
> > to change-its really difficult to change considering the three
> > million times we've already hummed it!!
> >
> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
, ali
> > ahad 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > i have asked my mother ... i m a pakistani and urdu
> > > speaker ...although i had some doubt but now they are
> > > clear...farma rava means "hukmraan"king, ..." hukm
> > > jari karne wala"
> > >
> > > --- Gomzy  wrote:
> > >
> > > > No Amith, I think Farma Ravaa makes sense, Also you
> > > > can see
> > > > rabba would have sounded diff, rather it would be
> > > > raba (there wud have been
> > > > a stress 'ra')
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12/12/07, Tapey3  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought it was "marhabba"
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com

> > > > ,
> > > > > "Amith Chandhran"
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think it should be Farma Rabba or Farma Raba
> > > > (Order of God). But
> > > > > can't say
> > > > > > confidently till it releases.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Dec 11, 2007 8:29 PM, ali ahad
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > FARMA RAVA means " the one who give orders" or
> > > > > > > something like that...yani farman jari karne
> > > > wala
> > > > > > > i hope i m right
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Gopal Srinivasan  > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nazeef took a shot at deciphering the lyrics
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > Marhaba from JA based on what he heard
> > > > during
> > > > > > > > the concert. This is what he came up with
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > azeem o shaan shahenshah!!!
> > > > > > > > Farma ravaa
> > > > > > > > Hamesha Hamesha
> > > > > > > > Salaamath rahe!!
> > > > > > > > Tera ho kya bhayan, tu shaan-e-hindustaan
> > > > > > > > Hindustaan teri jaan, tu jaan-e-hindustaan
> > > > > > > > Marhab O marhab..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dheem-thom-tana na na dheem thom tana na na
> > > > Dheem
> > > > > > > > thom-Dheem thom!!!
> > > > > > > > Thik-da thom tana na na thik-da thom tana na
> > > > na
> > > > > > > > thik-da thom!!!Thik-da thom!!
> > > > > > > > Thinaka-thinaka-thinaka-thinaka dhom!
> > > > > > > > Dhanaka-dhanaka-dhanaka-dhanka dhom!
> > > > > > > > Dhina thom Dhina thom-Jalaaluddin Akbar!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What does farma ravaa mean??
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > __
> > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> > > > > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > __
> > ___
> > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [arr] BGM Trivia.

[kaissiom]

Ok, I have uploaded extended version of this BGM and another BGM. 
That should definitely give the movie away.  Enjoy!

Eagerly waiting for JA, BGM for this movie should be nothing short of
spectacular!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "intelligentstupidfunny" 
> 
> Seems like Kandukondein Kandukondien to me...
>

Re: [arr] BGM Trivia.

[kaissiom]

I have enabled a BGM in the 'Rare' folder.  Please identify the movie,
and I will upload an extended version of this BGM (which easily gives
the movie away). 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Pradeepan R"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Please enable public access until 2007 !!!
> Pls & Thanks.
> 
> On Dec 11, 2007 6:16 AM, neena kochhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > but it is now disabled!
> >
> >
> > kaissiom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm always humbled by the encouragement and support I have
received from the
> > group members over time.  Below, is another one of those I
received form
> > Lali Singh this morning, reminding me of my 'briefcase' share link:
> > http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kaissiom
> >
> > As a community service/announcement:  I would like to let you know
that I'm
> > going to mark my briefcase private soon.  Therefore, help yourself
to any
> > gems that may be missing from your library.  Although, I would
like to add
> > that there's not much in the briefcase, it's some of my older
extracts.  But
> > like they say... "One person's trash is another person's treasure."
> >
> > Speaking of trash, imagine all the music Rahman must have trashed,
thinking
> > it is not "good enough", being the perfectionist he is.  Wow, but also
> > knowing that Rahman is smart, I would imagine he is storing his trash
> > somewhere 'safe'.  Anyways, just a food for thought :)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Wasim.
> >
> > --- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Wow, Lali Singhji, I had completely forgotten about
> > > that link.  Thanks for bringing old memories back.
> > > And it is also a reminder for me to mark those
> > > folders 'private'. I'm glad I'm of any service to
> > > the fan community.  You should really thank the
> > > music of Rahman and the likes of Gops and Vijay and
> > > other who have brought us fans together.
> > >
> > > And for Rahman's birthday, I wasn't planning on
> > > doing anything, but I might just do as you suggest,
> > > we'll see.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wasim.
> > >
> >
> >
> > > Singh Lali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Wasim bhai,
> > >
> > > Where are you these days?  Haven't seen any new BGMs
> > > from you?  I've been a great fan of your work you
> > > have
> > > provided us with great bgm masterpieces from our
> > > boss.
> > >  Thanks a million for that.  Although I have almost
> > > all the things you have provided, I really from the
> > > bottom of my heart thank you for Roja dvd quality
> > > song.  I finally gotto listen to it on bose and wow
> > > man thanks to you and Rahman I was able to listen to
> > > my favorite in pure bliss. I know you have stopped
> > > sharing but please just share one more song with me
> > > -
> > > ANY CHOR CHOR song!!! please.
> > >
> > > Anyways the reason I contacted you is because I was
> > > cleaning up my computer and found some old shared
> > > links form fangroup.  I have your breifcase link
> > > also,
> > > I must have never checked the link... I found a lost
> > > treasure so to say, I downloaded all them... thanks
> > > for the share man.
> > >
> > > Please post a bgm or dvd quality song for Rahman's
> > > b'day.
> > >
> > > best Regards.
> >
> >
> >  
> >  Sent from Yahoo! - a smarter inbox. 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Pradeepan.
> 
> "All you need to do is decide what to do with the time that is given
to you !"
>

[arr] A community service?

[kaissiom]

Hi All,

I'm always humbled by the encouragement and support I have received from
the group members over time.  Below, is another one of those I received
form Lali Singh this morning, reminding me of my 'briefcase' share link:
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kaissiom
<http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kaissiom>

As a community service/announcement:  I would like to let you know that
I'm going to mark my briefcase private soon.  Therefore, help yourself
to any gems that may be missing from your library.  Although, I would
like to add that there's not much in the briefcase, it's some of my
older extracts.  But like they say... "One person's trash is another
person's treasure."

Speaking of trash, imagine all the music Rahman must have trashed,
thinking it is not "good enough", being the perfectionist he is.  Wow,
but also knowing that Rahman is smart, I would imagine he is storing his
trash somewhere 'safe'.  Anyways, just a food for thought :)

Regards,
Wasim.

--- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wow, Lali Singhji, I had completely forgotten about
> that link.  Thanks for bringing old memories back.
> And it is also a reminder for me to mark those
> folders 'private'. I'm glad I'm of any service to
> the fan community.  You should really thank the
> music of Rahman and the likes of Gops and Vijay and
> other who have brought us fans together.
>
> And for Rahman's birthday, I wasn't planning on
> doing anything, but I might just do as you suggest,
> we'll see.
>
> Thanks,
> Wasim.
>

> Singh Lali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Wasim bhai,
>
> Where are you these days?  Haven't seen any new BGMs
> from you?  I've been a great fan of your work you
> have
> provided us with great bgm masterpieces from our
> boss.
>  Thanks a million for that.  Although I have almost
> all the things you have provided, I really from the
> bottom of my heart thank you for Roja dvd quality
> song.  I finally gotto listen to it on bose and wow
> man thanks to you and Rahman I was able to listen to
> my favorite in pure bliss. I know you have stopped
> sharing but please just share one more song with me
> -
> ANY CHOR CHOR song!!! please.
>
> Anyways the reason I contacted you is because I was
> cleaning up my computer and found some old shared
> links form fangroup.  I have your breifcase link
> also,
> I must have never checked the link... I found a lost
> treasure so to say, I downloaded all them... thanks
> for the share man.
>
> Please post a bgm or dvd quality song for Rahman's
> b'day.
>
> best Regards.

Re: [arr] ARR music + Bose Headphones...

[kaissiom]

If I may add my 2 cents:

I have been collecting quality headphones/audio equipment, and from my
personal experience I can say that in my opinion Bose is overrated.  I
have couple of Bose headphones (+ Bose HomeTheater) and they are great
at reproducing bass, but they really compromise in reproducing mids &
highs.  So, if I really want to emphasize on bass, I listen to it on
Bose, but my $70 Aiwa HP-AK100, which I have for regular use, 
outperforms Bose in other areas.  

I also prefer Sennheiser over Bose.  Just the fact that Bose doesn't
even disclose their frequency ranges/specification is really
frustrating because you can't compare Bose with other headphones based
on specs.

But it really comes down to personal preference and your "ear for
detail".  My mom can't tell the difference between Bose and RCA.

If you are really in the market to buy Bose headphones, I recommend
you consider these as well:

1. Bang & Olufson A8 earphones:
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/page.asp?id=46

2. Sennheiser HD 595:
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/05343

3. Etymotic ER.4:
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er4.aspx

And if you want ultimate headphones...then these:

1. Shure E500:
http://www.shure.com/PersonalAudio/Products/Earphones/SEModels/us_pa_se530_content

2. Denon AH-D5000:
http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3456.asp

I'm currently saving up for E500, it has three dedicated drivers to
cater to highs/mids/lows and they have fit them all in a plug, let's see. 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "balaji ramalingam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Yes..Many has different opinion...even i thought BOSE is just waste of
> money, but when i listen ARR music in Bose QC2 and when you compare the
> sound with other head phones...the quality is way ahead of other
headphones
> and ARR music simply rocks!
> but i should say even Sennheiser is beautifully crafted to produce
very good
> music...My friend has this one...ARR music sounds greatly on
> Sennheiser as Gomzy
> said.
> 
> My roommate is a very die hard fan of Ilayaraja... but when he started
> listening ARR music on Bose headphones he undoubtedly accepted
greatness of
> ARR music (i am not trying to create a debate on who is great!
please i dont
> want that). ARR BGM rocks on these headphones. i mean we are all
great fans
> of gifted musician ARR. To understand his great music we should
listen in
> Bose, Sennheiser as far as i know...
> 
> i am not earning that much to offer 300$ for Bose headphones. but i
did a
> lot of research and its worth spending that much amount just for
only one
> reason...and that is to listen ARR music.
> 
> - Balaji
> 
> 
> On 10/27/07, ramanujan melkote krishna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Gomzy.. I donno wether u have tried Bose i.e, Tripod
Technology.its
> > just awesome...140$
> > Bose + ARR   rockss
> >
> > *Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >
> >  Bose headphones suck! Its has noise cancellationso you lose
helluva
> > base.
> > Sennheiser  and bare dynamic rock !
> >
> >
> > On 10/27/07, Arijit Debnath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >I think its $279 (Bestbuy price).
> > >
> > > My uncle has that... really awesome experience... I have Bose
computer
> > > speakers (companion 2 series II) that is also too good, but
headphone's
> > > sound is way ahead...
> > >
> > >
> > > Arijit
> > >
> > >
> > > On 26/10/2007, RAMESH b.j KRISHNAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   Can you please tell me how much it is?
> > > >
> > > > *balaji ramalingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >* wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Hey all,
> > > >
> > > > Want to feel the true quality music of our boss?...listen the
songs in
> > > > Bose QC2 Headphones...His music speaks
> > > > We can hear lots of hidden sounds in his songs...
> > > > Worth buying such costly headphones only to listen ARR music.
> > > > What say you?
> > > >
> > > > - Balaji
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  --
> > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it
now
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
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>

[arr] Re: My ATM review

[kaissiom]

I second that Thulasi, couldn't agree with you more.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Thulasi Ram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I had to dedicate two hours for penning this review. I appreciate
those who
> take time to go through this. Thanks.
> 
> First things first: ARR is doing re-recording/BGM for ATM. It's
confirmed
> from reliable sources. Don't keep on spreading rumors. Rather, start
> spreading this information.
> 
> Understand the reality: You cannot have ATM songs in a movie like
Boys and
> the vice versa is also not possible. ARR has come up with some "working
> numbers" to suit the image of a hero who has the potential to hit
deep. So,
> free your mind and enjoy the songs given by the musical genius.
> 
> A bit of history- The lesson learnt: Till 2001, if an ARR song
doesn't catch
> me instantly, I used to keep rambling like many in this group (!). I
> remember how bad I felt about mudhalvan songs initally. Later I
realized how
> those songs grew in me. Similar case happened with Alaipayuthey. I never
> liked yaaro yaarodi, evano oruvan. But later, I realized how ARRs song
> create a swinging shift thereby making someone to rethink what
he/she has
> thought about it initially. Okay there you go! That's ARR for you. I
made
> something firm in me. i.e. Not to take any quick decisions for ARR
albums.
> This strategy has worked great for me. For example, I never liked tu
bin and
> lukka chuppi from RDB initially but I believed that ARR's song will
grow in
> me. Later I felt that lukka chuppi is a gem of a song and tu bin
bataye a
> golden gift from ARR.
> 
> Bottom line: Accept ARRs songs as it comes and it will definitely strike
> gold in you simply because, music from ARR is not a result of ARRs
work but
> ARRs blood. A man who has dedicated his life to music and a man who
has the
> courage to experiment new sounds and genre of music. A simple
example: When
> did rap become famous in regional movies? Only after ARR bought rap
stuff in
> alai payuthe.
> 
> Okay, lets dive into the subject of this mail.
> 
> ATM Review:
> 
> After Laggan, all songs in an ARR album have caught me instantly
only in ATM
> i.e. m hearing all songs without skipping from day 1.
> 
> My pick of the album: Merlyn Monroe (just a shade sweeter than all
the other
> magnificent songs in the album)
> 
> Album rating: 10/10.
> 
> Bottomline: A versatile Rahman in show. ARR makes music sound easy
but it is
> not easy. ATM has a bunch of complex compositions. Kudos to all
lyricists.
> 
>   *Ellapugazhum*
> 
> Brilliance of ARR
> 
> ARR's voice and rendition; Great and mesmerizing. ARR adds life to
the song
> 
> The use of electric guitar - that's ARR for you
> 
> Magnificent use of chords that pump the adrenalin (sample 4:02 - 4:10)
> 
> The way the song ends.. Scintillating!
> 
> Reverberating chiming section throughout the song - ARRs mind in play
> 
> Constant energy-sprinkling percussion which sounds great in 5.1
> 
> *Merlyn Monroe*
> 
> Brilliance of ARR
> 
> Stylish Stylish Stylish
> 
> The way the song begins is too sexy. LOVE IT!
> 
> Notice that there are *NO* percussion in this song. Just the chiming
sounds
> with bass guitar does the trick for the song. That's ARR for you again
> 
> Amazing additional programming. High-tech sounds embellish the song
> 
> Casual rendition by male singer and female voice getting quite squeaky..
> This balance has worked out great in the song
> 
> Mesmerizing male and female alaaps. A
> 
> complex song to execute.
> 
> *Valayapatti*
> 
> Brilliance of ARR
> 
> Check out different layers in the song. All unique but very tough to
compose
> 
> Raaga and corresponding alaap. Just magnificient! Come on, could anyone
> merge both folk and carnatic genre?? Only ARR can handle it so
> professionally. Result: A magnificient song like this
> 
> Use of nathaswaram.. ARR makes even that instrument sound so pleasant to
> hear.
> 
> The connection between both charanam and pallavi is too good. Folk +
> carnatic + percussion alaap (dheem thanaku dheem)
> 
> Use of bass guitar and making it play all along when the raaga alaap is
> rendered. This is vintage ARR.
> 
> Use of Naresh and madhumitha is commendable
> 
> *Kelamal*
> 
> Brilliance of ARR
> 
> Only ARR can handle melodies like munbae vaa, kaatril(from GF) and a
song
> like this.. All are melodies but fall info different percussion
genre. Just
> awesome.
> 
> Ketu rasitha padal ondrai bit is amazing and  mesmerizing. An alternate
> version of it in the middle of the song is just scintillating
> 
> Singer selection has again worked out beautifully for ARR.
> 
> The song decorated by various versions of chiming sounds
> 
> Kokilam Kokilam bit is very much hummable.
> 
> A simple percussion handled so professionally to suit a melody like this
> 
> *Maduraiku*
> 
> Brilliance of ARR
> 
> Again, the instrument "melam" sounds professional when ARR uses it. This
> aspect as always been very unique for ARR. He does "something" to
make the
> instru

[arr] Query about ATM and Sivaji(Hindi)

[kaissiom]

Hi all,

I had a couple of questions, please chime in if anybody knows.

1. Re: ATM - Couple of songs have been credited to Ujjaini.  Is this
the same Ujjaini from Saregampa Challenge 2005?  Because, if it is
then it's great to know that Rahman is tapping in the talent emerging
from these competitions.  I would love to see Rahman give opportunity
to Mauli, Sumedha or Amanat from SRGMP C2007.

2. Re: Sivaji(Hindi) - Does anybody know who is doing the lyrics in
Hindi?  I seriously hope they rope in Javed Akthar sahab or Prasoon
Joshi for lyrics.  A lot of dubbed albums have suffered the fate of
bad lyrics when translated.

p.s. I have been hooked on ATM.  The album keeps growing on me, all
songs hold their own.  Whoever has done the Remix of Ponmagal, has
done a great job.  But the tortoise of the album, which has slowly and
steadily won the race of winning my heart is Kelamal Kaiyile.  I
didn't like this song in the beginning, I thought it was average, but
wow, it was just my brain trying to understand what is going on in
that song.  It has some serious experimentation - with tamil song and
subtle techo/trans beats.  Only Rahman can think, create and deliver
something like that.  

People talk about expectations from Rahman albums, having too high
expectations etc.. Honestly I do not have any expectations of Rahman.
 I'm a devotee of Rahman, and take whatever he has to offer, as a boon.  

"All that is good and successful comes from God, all that is bad and
failure is because of myself" - Rahman himself (I can't remember the
exact phrase but it was to the same effect.)

Always,
Proud to be a Rahmaniac.

[arr] Re: holi re

[kaissiom]

I know I had posted something about Holi Re a while ago, I found it
after searching:

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/message/53474

Regards.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Nagaraj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Friends,
> Few days back I was listening to Holi re from Mangal Pandey.
> I find this song one of the most of different songs I have ever heard
> from boss. The reason is the way the song changes after 2:20 or the 
> second half of the song. It is like almost a different song with a 
> different tune. Even the humming oh ho oh ho.. at 2:40 is so 
> different.The different beats and rhytm from second part of song.
> It was just amazing. First time when heard it on the music release 
> day i didnt like it becos of its too many twists and turns. Mind 
> doesnt accept a song which is so different immediately. Then after a 
> few times it felt good. After a few years u feel if u listen its a 
> new type of music altogether that has not been explored by MDs over 
> the years.
> The amazing thing of abt this song is if u make someone listen to the 
> first 2 minutes as ask them to predict how the second half of the 
> song  
> i am sure nobody other than our boss can guess it right:) Mostly
> one can guess the way the song would progess after the first 1-2 
> minutes of song. But this one .is just different..infact it is 
> the definition of the word different..I cant imagine how much boss 
> wud have worked for this song becos he had to add so many things to 
> it and also think unconventional..But the song was not well received 
> by public becos it takes time to grow.. But thats ok..  This song i 
> felt was meant for hardcore fans like us :) When I listen to songs 
> like these
> I really really realy.. feel proud to be a fan of rahman. Becos none 
> of the indian mds produce this kind of song. can we expect such a 
> song fm Reshamaiya or HJ? :) Even Rahman of 90's was not trying songs 
> like these.. So i felt it boss gives us so many different things with 
> time...90's had a style.. 2000 had another.. i donno wat he has for 
> 2010..? amazing..
> 
> Can anyone say abt the tech details of the song like what were raagas 
> in which this song has been composed.. wat were names of the rhythm 
> and beats used..etc.. Please share it if u know becos it will help us 
> analyze more and enjoy more..also drop in ur thoughts abt the song..
> 
> Regards,
> S.V.Nagaraj
>

[arr] Style in Hindi... I had fun doing it!

[kaissiom]

Hi Guys,

So moving on from my last rambling on Saawariya, wait...

hmmm I actually didn't ramble on Saawariya, maybe I should.  I like
Saawariya Saawariya from Swades.  Good music, Alka has done a good job?

Anyway, I have uploaded a Hindi version of Style and No this is not a
leaked version of any kind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w13mXrzUhpE


So, I gave it shot.. lyrics, singing and music on FLStudio.

I'm not a singer and I didn't even try to be.  There's so many layers
in the song, I had fun just doing minor layering and of course making
music in FLStudio.  Anyway here's the lyrics, it's pretty cheezy,
don't hate me:

Give me one time sunlight
Oh Give me two time sunlight
OR Give me three time sunset

Chahiye kya sunlight
Chahiye kya moonlight
Pehle tha main kaala
Ab to hoo main white

Aajao sab maidaan main
Kardoonga sab ki chutti main
Jab sab karenge darr ke run
Main bhi karronga piche run

Dekho Dekho 
Isko to dekho
Dekho Dekho
Isko to dekho


Mara mara mara maarne ka style
Pita pita pita peetne ka style
Toda toda toda todhne ka style
Phoda phoda phoda phodne ka style

Marne ka style
Peetne ka sytle
Phodhne ka style

Khaane ka style
Peene ka style
Sone ka style


Mara mara mara maarne ka style
Pita pita pita peetne ka style
Toda toda toda todhne ka style
Phoda phoda phoda phodne ka style
Khana khana khana khaane ka style
Pani pani pani peene ka style
sona sona sona sone ka style
Naya naya naya Apun ka Style


Let me know what you think.

Regards,
Wasim.

[arr] Re: Dil se re - Winning; Poll closing July 6th.

[kaissiom]

Hello Rahmaniacs,

After 66 votes, we have a winner.. Dil Se..

Please read the following before downloading:

By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you
currently own the original copy, CD/Tape of the Song: Dil Se
From: Dil Se(Hindi). The content provided to you for downloading is
strictly for backup purposes. I, Kaissiom, certify that I own the
original content and make duplicates for backup purposes only. By
downloading the content, you certify that you currently own the
original content and want to protect it from possible damage. This is
a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm
only providing backups of the music you already own. I, Kaissiom, will
not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. If you
sell, trade, or forfeit your ownership of your original software, you
agree to destroy the CDR or any digital backups of that title. You
take full responsibility for your own actions when using these
back-ups and release Kaissiom from all liabilities, which may arise -
expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are
complying with these regulations. This allows me (Kaissiom) to
duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my
backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective
third parties.

Link:

http://www.bestsharing.com/f/6T9Gun301160

Enjoy!

Regards,
Wasim.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "kaissiom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Rahmaniacs,
> 
> Here's the results of the poll so far.
> 
> 1. Dil Se - Dil Se Re - #1 with 23% of the votes.
> 2. Boys - Girlfriend and Alai Payuthey - Pachai Nirame "tied" with 17%
> 3. Roja - Yeh Haseen Vadiyan - with 8%
> 
> I will be closing the poll on July 6th.  Make your vote count.
> 
> Only 47 people have voted so far, but it looks like Dil Se is the most
> favorite of the "Fans of Rahman"?
> 
> Regards,
> Wasim.
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "kaissiom"  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Rahmaniacs!!
> > 
> > Well, I knew what I was getting myself into.  So, I'm not surprised. 
> > I know it is like a tease to let you listen to only one, one of my
> > favorite, song in high quality and not to expect to hear from so many
> > of you.
> > 
> > Due to an overwhelming response from so many of you requesting just
> > ONE additional song(favorite)in high quality, I've created a poll.
> > 
> > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/surveys?id=2518276
> > 
> > Please go and vote for your favorite song.  Song with the highest vote
> > will be presented in Highest Quality.  Again, this will definitely be
> > the last time.  So, I hope you find you song on the list and hope that
> > others will concur with you.  I know it's not fair, they are all my
> > favorite songs, but there are 25 of them, you are bound to find at
> > least one.  May be not your most favorite, but close.  
> > 
> > Good luck voting, it's never easy to pick just ONE Rahman song.  But
> > good luck, be true to yourself.  This could be an ultimate test for a
> > fan, or torture I should say.
> > 
> > P.S.: I have not decided when I will be closing the poll, but I'm sure
> > sooner than later we will have at least 2 to 3 "clear winners".  So,
> > may be in a week, I will close the poll, and you will have the Winner.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Wasim.
> >
>

[arr] How many of you remember this Rahman site?

[kaissiom]

I'm not sure if anyone else has used this website before, but this site
was my primary Rahman resources before joining this group.

I was searching for something else when I came across this site, it was
like an instant flashback,  seems like an archived page.

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5715/old/new.html

It was interesting to find my comments and Gops' comments in the
guestbook that are 8 to 9 years old!  lol!  It was funny to look at my
old comment... I managed to mention all the Hindi albums till date, but
no Tamil albums because I had not listened to his Tamil music as of that
time.


"Wasim - 01/27/99 22:09:15

Your favorite ARR album: Roja, Hum Se Hai Mukabla, Bombay, Chor Chor,
Priyanka, Love Birds, Tu Hi Mera Dil, Rangeela, Hindustani, Duniya
Dilwaloun Ki, Sapnay, Khel Khiladi Ka, Daud, Kabhi Na Kabhi,
Vishwavidhata, Vande Mataram, Mr. Romeo, Jeans, Di Se.., Doli Saja Ke
Rakhna!
Your favorite ARR song: All the songs from these albums!!
Why do you like these albulms/songs: They are just different from other
music!!
What do you like best about ARR's music: It has every thing in it and it
is not possible to describe it!!
What would you like to see added to this page: Nothing, It is just
Perfect!"

"Gopal Srinivasan - 10/04/98 04:12:31

Your favorite ARR album: All of them
Your favorite ARR song: All of them
Why do you like these albulms/songs: The music is out of the world
What do you like best about ARR's music: I can't explain. It just sends
a chill and a thrill through me.
What would you like to see added to this page: A bio perhaps
Comments: Your site is very attractive but is short on hard info I
think. A.R.Rhamn is god reborn to enthrall music lovers of this
generation. Have you ever seen a genius like him who inspite of his
extraordinary success is still unbelievably modest. Let's hope and pray
that he outlives all of us and keeps us enslaved to his magical music
forever."

[arr] Re: 320 kbps version of ek mohabbat

[kaissiom]

Sorry, but this is not @ 320kbps.

Saving a low quality, 64kpbs song for example, as a 320kpbs song,
doesn't make it 320kbps.  

Yes, the size will go up. Yes, it will say "320kbps". 
But it's not "320kbps" of the original song.
It's 320kbps of the 64kbps song.  So, you really end up with a very
clear version of a "low quality" song.

No offense intended, Thank you Bala for sharing, it was all in good
spirit.  Me being me, specially when it comes to quality, had to comment.

Regards,
Wasim.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Balakrishnan R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I chanced upon a 320 kbps high quality version of the taj anthemat
> the following link
> 
> http://www.4shared.com/file/18338788/6972f8a2/Taj_Anthem_Audio_.html?s=1
> 
> Might be good enough till we wait for the CD release day after
tomorrow :)
> 
> Balakrishnan
> 
> -- 
> "Only you can hurt yourself"
> - M.K.Gandhi
>

[arr] Re: a few lines abt his music

[kaissiom]

Hi Diya,

I think you are speaking for the most of us here. Short and to the
point.  I find it hard to describe to people why I like Rahman.  For
instance, someone will say, Himesh is good or Ismail is good, they are
coming up with really good music, why don't you like them?  You are a
typical "fan" who doesn't want to hear criticism or you won't even
appreciate good music, just because it's not Rahman's. 

I find it difficult to make my point across.  Actually, being a Rahman
fan has exposed me to a level of quality that makes me appreciate good
music, regardless of where it comes from.  But people don't understand
that it's not just his music.  And I can't find words to describe my
connection with Rahman.  It's not just his music, it's everything
about him, it's the persona of Rahman.  People, other than his fans,
will never understand it.  

I guess it's the connection we all fans share here on this group, I
feel like this is my little community.  It's a unique community I
belong to, where everyone speaks the music of Rahman, where everyone
is tied with the strings of Rahman, pun intended :)

Regards,
Wasim.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, diya ganguly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>   Here's a short piece that I wrote recently about my experiences
with the legend's music. Was a bit hesitant to post it here as there
is nothing new in it...it all has probably been already said and
discussed sometime somewhere. 
>   But still wish to share it with you all. Please have a look and
let me know what you think.
>
>   So here it goes...
>
> There is hardly anything that has not been said about the
universal nature of music; of its magical powers to cut across all
barriers- linguistic, cultural and geographic.
>   Words such as these sounded flowery and cliched to me till I got
to experience it all myself.
>   Till I was held captivated by a series of songs sung in a language
unknown to me and the melody in its own way conveyed its meaning.
>   Till the music and the rhythm of the songs in "Indhira",
"Sangamam" and many more brought into my room a whiff of fragrance
from some village so far and yet so near.
>   And made the distant lands and people that I had never even seen,
in a unique way, my own.
>
>   When Rahman's music plays suddenly all the demarcations and
differences in the world seem to disappear, making it one single entity.
>   Where the strains of sound from far and wide gell together in
perfect harmony to create a new essence altogether.
>   Where one can feel the breeze in a sea shore in India sitting
miles away in a different country.
>
>   When he sings "vellai pookal" the space all around is filled with
peace and tranquility.
>   And when he says the words "thanimai thanimayo kodumai kodumayo"
one need not even know their meanings to feel the loneliness.
>
>
>   I have often wondered what is it that makes his music so special,
but of course some questions are best left unanswered.
>   But one thing that makes it different from most other music is
that you cannot just enjoy his music, have a good time and forget
about it.
>   It transforms you forever.
>   It makes you proud of your country and at the same time connects
you to all other places in the world.
>   It makes you want to be a good Indian and a good global citizen.
>   It binds you to the soil and makes you want to reach out to the world.
>   All at once.
>
>   I remember him saying in one of the interviews that he believes
"the soul of every human being is connected". Nothing reflects it
better than his own masterpieces.
>   Where the music often imparts a meaning to the song that goes far
deeper than its words.
>   A meaning that transcends language itself.
>
>
>   It is also interesting that if I am asked to choose my favourite
AR Rahman songs I will have to list down around 70 to 75 percent of
his compositions!
>   Well, each sounds better than the rest.
>   And they all keep sounding better with every passing day.
>   Each time you listen to them you discover something new about
them- like hidden treasures that never cease to unfold.
>   And each time they sound just as fresh as ever!
>
>
>   There is so much more to be said but I will rather keep it short
and let his music say the rest.
>   All I wish to say is I am proud to belong to the same country and
same time as this musical wonder.
>
>   Proud to be a Rahmaniac!!
> 
>
>
> 
>
> -
>  Once upon a time there was 1 GB storage on Yahoo! Mail. Click here
for happy ending!
>

[arr] Dil se re - Winning; Poll closing July 6th.

[kaissiom]

Hello Rahmaniacs,

Here's the results of the poll so far.

1. Dil Se - Dil Se Re - #1 with 23% of the votes.
2. Boys - Girlfriend and Alai Payuthey - Pachai Nirame "tied" with 17%
3. Roja - Yeh Haseen Vadiyan - with 8%

I will be closing the poll on July 6th.  Make your vote count.

Only 47 people have voted so far, but it looks like Dil Se is the most
favorite of the "Fans of Rahman"?

Regards,
Wasim.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "kaissiom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Rahmaniacs!!
> 
> Well, I knew what I was getting myself into.  So, I'm not surprised. 
> I know it is like a tease to let you listen to only one, one of my
> favorite, song in high quality and not to expect to hear from so many
> of you.
> 
> Due to an overwhelming response from so many of you requesting just
> ONE additional song(favorite)in high quality, I've created a poll.
> 
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/surveys?id=2518276
> 
> Please go and vote for your favorite song.  Song with the highest vote
> will be presented in Highest Quality.  Again, this will definitely be
> the last time.  So, I hope you find you song on the list and hope that
> others will concur with you.  I know it's not fair, they are all my
> favorite songs, but there are 25 of them, you are bound to find at
> least one.  May be not your most favorite, but close.  
> 
> Good luck voting, it's never easy to pick just ONE Rahman song.  But
> good luck, be true to yourself.  This could be an ultimate test for a
> fan, or torture I should say.
> 
> P.S.: I have not decided when I will be closing the poll, but I'm sure
> sooner than later we will have at least 2 to 3 "clear winners".  So,
> may be in a week, I will close the poll, and you will have the Winner.
> 
> Regards,
> Wasim.
>

[arr] One More Chance - DVD Quality Audio - Vote to get yours!

[kaissiom]

Hello Rahmaniacs!!

Well, I knew what I was getting myself into.  So, I'm not surprised. 
I know it is like a tease to let you listen to only one, one of my
favorite, song in high quality and not to expect to hear from so many
of you.

Due to an overwhelming response from so many of you requesting just
ONE additional song(favorite)in high quality, I've created a poll.

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/surveys?id=2518276

Please go and vote for your favorite song.  Song with the highest vote
will be presented in Highest Quality.  Again, this will definitely be
the last time.  So, I hope you find you song on the list and hope that
others will concur with you.  I know it's not fair, they are all my
favorite songs, but there are 25 of them, you are bound to find at
least one.  May be not your most favorite, but close.  

Good luck voting, it's never easy to pick just ONE Rahman song.  But
good luck, be true to yourself.  This could be an ultimate test for a
fan, or torture I should say.

P.S.: I have not decided when I will be closing the poll, but I'm sure
sooner than later we will have at least 2 to 3 "clear winners".  So,
may be in a week, I will close the poll, and you will have the Winner.

Regards,
Wasim.

[arr] *Song Uploaded* - DVD Quality: Roja song uploaded!!

[kaissiom]

Hello Rahmaniacs,

I've posted the song online.  Please provide feedback, share the
experience,  and let me know if you agree with me on the quality.

I can not explain in words.. the experience of listening to certain
songs in this quality, the most notable experience of euphoria
occurred while listening to the following songs: 

- Mustafa Mustafa (I had never heard the bass like that)
- Urvashi Urvahsi
- Humma Humma
- Dil hai sanam (Chor Chor)


Tip: Your computer or ipod may not be best equipped to listen to this
format.  If that is the case, I highly recommend burning the song onto
a CD and listening to it on a high end system.  

Some technical details to keep in mind:
- Volume levels on this audio is lower than most other formats, due to
the averaging logic, I don't want to get into details.

- High quality means already high levels of treble and bass.  If you
have an amp, set it to modest settings.  I don't want to get blamed,
if you blow up your speakers :)



Please read before downloading:

By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you
currently own the original copy, CD/Tape of the Song: Chhoti Si Aasha
From: Roja(Hindi).  The content provided to you for downloading is
strictly for backup purposes.  I, Kaissiom, certify that I own the
original content and make duplicates for backup purposes only.  By
downloading the content, you certify that you currently own the
original content and want to protect it from possible damage. This is
a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm
only providing backups of the music you already own. I, Kaissiom, will
not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. If you
sell, trade, or forfeit your ownership of your original software, you
agree to destroy the CDR or any digital backups of that title. You
take full responsibility for your own actions when using these
back-ups and release Kaissiom from all liabilities, which may arise -
expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are
complying with these regulations. This allows me (Kaissiom) to
duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my
backups.  All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective
third parties.

Link:

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/177835/Chhoti-Si-Aasha-Highest-Quality--zip.html


Enjoy!

Regards,
Wasim.

[arr] DVD-Audio: anyone interested?

[kaissiom]

Hello Rahmaniacs,

It was a couple of years back that I accidentally or unintentionally
came across a method of fetching *voiceless* BGMs.  And
co-incidentally, at around the same time our dear friend AJ (where are
you AJ?)  also discovered another way of doing the same thing.  It was
music to the ears and treat for the fans.  We've come a long way
since, many other wonderful people in the group have joined the BGM
frenzy since.  I admit, I have become selfish enough to keep the newer
BGMs to myself for quite some time now, but there are multiple reasons
for that, which could be the subject of a whole another topic.  But
this time around, it's another breakthrough, DVD-Quality music.

In my personal opinion, in this "i-pod" age, there are 3 types of
music listeners in general:
A) People that are size conscious (due to the limitations of the
hard-drive on their i-pod/computer)

B) People that are quality conscious (want the best quality regardless
of size)

C) People that are neither type-A nor type-B and basically have no
preference and could care less about the technical details.

Well, I happen to be a hardcore type-B person.  And if you happen to
be type-B, carry on reading, and if you are not type-B, but still
interested, you are also welcome.

I could care less about the size on my hard-drive, as long as I can
grab hold of the highest quality Rahman music out there.  It is a
pretty straight forward logic, as the size of the song goes down, the
quality goes down.  Although, the 5 MB, 128 kpbs song sounds great and
you can't tell the difference on your ipod, the difference becomes
quite noticeable on a hi-fi system or when playing the music on loud
volume.  I personally store Rahman's music at the highest quality on
my computer or my "ipod" (I actually don't like ipods, I have a
Creative Zen M, if you want quality, I would recommend Creative).  The
huge file sizes do reduce the number of songs I can have, but going
with a bigger HD takes care of that problem.

So, in my pursuit of "high quality" Rahman music, I had yet another
breakthrough… DVD-Quality music.  I have been quietly, one at a time,
ripping DVD music of all of my Rahman DVDs.  Let's not forget that we
already have the highest-quality audio available in the market for
these movies in form of original Audio CDs.  But the DVD audio I'm
ripping is unarguably superior.  I now have 3 x  each of Rahman's
songs.  1) in highest quality mp3 format, 2) in Audio CD format, 3) in
DVD music format.  Yes, call me a Rah-maniac, when I said I'm a
hardcore type-B person, I meant it.

Just based on simple logic of relation between file size and quality
here's how they stack up: Example, Chotti si Aasha from Roja, run
time: Approximately 5 minutes.

1) Highest quality mp3 format, 320 kbps:
File Size(approx.): 11.3 MB

2) Audio CD, wav format:
File Size(approx.): 48.3 MB

3) DVD-Quality audio, wma format:
File Size(approx.): 81.2 MB

Well, does it really make a difference?  You have to listen to it to
believe it.  You can hear all the minute details and all instruments
in back quite clearly.  The highs are sharper and the basses are
lower.  I mean I could talk all about it, but unless you hear it, you
won't know.

Well, assuming that we are all Rahman fans on this group, and assuming
that all of the "fans" should at least have Roja in their collection,
I'm hesitantly willing to sharing ONE song from Roja in DVD quality.  
Why you may ask?  Because I would hate to keep the gem to myself.  It
is an experience every fan should experience.  I can not describe it
in words...the joy of listening to Roja, Chor Chor, Bombay, Sapnay,
Duet, etc. in DVD Quality music.  

What triggered my quest for this High-quality sound was that one post
on this group, where someone posted a Thiruda Thiruda song and claimed
it was DVD audio.  I got excited, downloaded it, listened to it and I
could swear it can not be DVD quality audio, because the sound on the
Audio CD was definitely better.  That was it! I decided to find out
what DVD quality audio would really sound like.  I'm actually very
happy with my discovery, although it means more hard-drive space.  But
I know sooner or later someone in this group will post more of these,
just like the BGMs.  

The other beauty of this DVD-quality music is that it is in wma format
and can be burned on to a regular CD and played on any system that
plays burned CDs. Essentially, you burned CD will have the version of
the song that is better(quality) than the version on original CD.  I
recommend you burn this song and listen to it in a hi-fi system if
possible or using a decent pair of headphones (B&O, Sennheiser, Bose,
SHURE)  And if you can't listen to it on a hi-fi system now, you could
probably keep it for future use.

But before I post anything, I was not even sure if anyone would
actually be interested in this high-quality audio.  I mean I truly
don't know if people care about quality or size for that matter or is
it just me?  Why post some

[arr] Is it me or that snare too loud?

[kaissiom]

Hello Rahmaniacs,

I was listening to Guru again, just like every other day.  I know, I
know, most people have moved on to Sivaji.  I still have the hangover
from Guru as I'm trying to absorb Sivaji.  Wow, every song in Sivaji
is so unique and like always "slow poison".  Well, going back to Guru,
Tere Bina in particular.  

It's definitely one of the best ARR songs, plus him singing it puts it
in another league completely.  But if there is one thing I wish was
different about the song is the snare beat.  Although the use of snare
 itself is great, I find the pitch and volume of the snare a bit out
of place.  I'm not critisizing Rahman, because as a fan I have come to
realize many a times that some of the unusual "sounds" in his songs
are intentional.  Only the master knows his work and all we could do
is try to understand it.  So, whether the snare bit there is
intentional? I don't know.  May be it was Rahman's decision, may be it
was the work of the sound engineers.  I'll never know.  But I do know
that I would have appreciated the song a tab bit more, if the snare
hadn't been that loud.

The song itself has a very hindustani/sufi elements to it, as it is
inspired by "Sajna tera bina" by NFAK.  The singing and instruments
for the most part are also along the same lines, if there is one thing
different about the mood of the song is the snare beat.  The snare
sounds like it is out of a pop/rock/english song.  Again, that is
intentional, I'm not surprised by that, it is Rahman after all, and in
fact I feel it's great fusion.  But I can't ignore the sharpness and
volume of the snare that it sometimes sounds like some kind of timer
ticking.  And its volume level varies throughout the song. I feel as
if it was added "on top" of the song after the whole song was done.

>It sounds great when it starts at 00:20
>All of a sudden there's a sharpness/volume increase at 00:39
>It goes through minor changes in between and gets completely dropped
at 02:06 - The song sounds great without it.
>It re-enters at a moderate level again at 02:47
>It is well-blended with the background beat between 03:00 and 03:58
>Then you can hear it in varying degrees until the song ends.

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I've had to turn the volume down
during certain parts of the song due to the snare.  I know what you
are thinking, "What is he doing complaining about the little things?"

Well, I'm a Rahman fan, and by definition it means that I do pay
attention to and care about minute details in Rahman's songs.  

But another thing I know about myself is that I have very sensitive
ears, I sometimes pick up sounds that most people in the room do not.
 And that could just be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
 So I was just wondering if anyone else felt the same way about the
snare being loud or is it just me after all?

Regards,
Wasim.



  

[arr] Re: It's His Signature - Noise in Start of "Style" Song.

[kaissiom]

Actually Rahman has been using this sound quite extensively.  He has
been using it for a while, if you haven't noticed he tends to stick to
a certain vibe or sounds for a while, before he catches on to
something else.  Like during Tehzeeb time... he was on phone
tones(sounds).

This old record or crackling sound has been evident in a past few
albums.  I believe it's his signature sound which stays for a few
years, before he catches on to something else.

1. Sivaji - Style: during the beginning and the ending.

2. Guru - Ay Hairathe: around 3:05, right when Alka starts singing "Ay
hairathe"

3. Aa Aah - Thigu Thigu: beginning of the song.

4. Meenaxi - Chinamma Chilkamma: beginning of the song. (I believe
this was the start of Rahman's "newfound" trend of adding crackling sound)


Regards,
Wasim.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Pradeepan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Hi Guys.
> Did u notice that there's some noise at the beginning of "Style" song.
> in the first 40 seconds ?
> It comes when I play the Audio CD as well as the ripped Mp3 version.
> 
> What could be the reason ? 
> Surely it can't be that ARR didnt notice this..
>

Re: [arr] I need Rahman's vocals - please help!!! - ATTN: lalisingh20

[kaissiom]

Hello friends,

And Mr. Lali, in regards to your email inquiry:

1. Yes, I have many instrument-less songs of Rahman sir. 
2. Yes, I have many other rare bits, including DVD-Audio of many
movies like Roja, Bombay, etc.. etc.
3. No, I'm afraid I can't tell you how I got them.
4. No, I'm afraid I will not be sharing these with the group, as
mentioned ealier, it is for personal listening pleasure only.

My hobby, or pastime, is to play with Rahman-sir's music, I'm not a
sound engineer or a DJ.  But I'm always working on personal
projects... utilizing Rahman sir's music.  Some of them come out to be
great, some not that great.  Other than myself, only my family members
get to hear most of my projects involving Rahman sir's music.  I have
posted a few of these things on the group over time, of which, the
"medley" remains very popular.  But for obvious reasons, I can't and I
won't share everything I have, sorry, and NO I'm not selfish.  I have
no intentions of selling these or making profits from these, even if
someone was out there to pay me.  It's strictly for personal use.  The
most I can do is share this little sample with you.

http://rapidshare.com/files/18657066/YehJoDesHai_Vocals-sample_.mp3.html

And if you are still wondering how I got them... "Rahman sir himself
came to my house, we had coffee, and he sang all the songs for me,
live & unplugged, while I was recording.  And then I woke up from my
dream, but lo! and behold!, these songs were magically recorded on my
tape-recorder."  ;)

On another note..

I'll have Guru's BGMS in a week or so, but I'm not sure if I'll be
posting that on the group.  There are other people on the group who
can do this now, so that's good.  And even if I post Guru's BGMs, I'm
afraid that will be my last contribution to the group.  As much as I
would love to share joy(Rahman) with you all, I also have to be true
to myself, and do what is right.  I'm sure most of you will
understand.  There's a lot of talent on the group, something or other
will always keep emerging from the group.  

regards,
Wasim.

   

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "lalisingh20" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> It is not impossible.  guys have you heard kaissiom's medley, towards
> the end, he has used just the vocals of three different songs sung by
> Rahman, and they are very clear and good quality and complete
> paragraphs, you don't hear any instruments at all, you don't even hear
> the original beat.  You can clearly hear Aaa Aah, Yeh jo des hai and
> even Luka Chuppi, just Rahman's vocals with some loop in the
> background.  For example in luka chupi, the part kaissiom has used, in
> the original there is some heavy tabla playing but there is no trace
> of tablas in the medley, not even a faint noise.  Kaissiom has these
> and I just want to know where to find these. If you guys have it then
> please share.  And kaissiom if you are reading, please share with us
> where and how you acquired these vocals.  Help a diehard Rahman fan.
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shahi  wrote:
> >
> > hi folks
> > 
> >   its possible to get the vocal part alone by using some
> > filters(midrange) and also the c channel of  5.1 discs will give more
> > emphasis to vocals than musicagain ther will b some
> musiceven i have
> > got small samples wher in we can just hear arr vocals only but
thats
> > some small clippings and clarity is not gud...i believe some one
> close to
> > arr can get u thati dont think that will violate any copyright
> > rules...if it does then forget it..  :)
> > 
> > shahi
> > 
> > 
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Shwetha Signs 
> > Date: Feb 23, 2007 6:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [arr] I need Rahman's vocals - please help!!!
> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > 
> > looking for ^"Rahman's vocals, with no music"^  impossible. then u
> need 2
> > have rahman's audio interviews :-)
> > 
> > 
> > *lalisingh20 * wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >  Friends,
> > 
> > I'm desparately looking for Rahman's vocals, with no music. For songs
> > like Yeh jo des hai, Luka chupi, Anbe ayuire, dilse re, etc.
> > 
> > Some of the above appear in kaissiom's medley towards the end. I was
> > wondering how and where did he get them. I contacted him but no
> > response. Did someone post them on the group and maybe I missed them.
> > 
> > If anybody has them please upload them or let me know where I can get
> > them. I want to listen to boss in complete silence minus any
> > instruments. Is that even possible to do on a CD or maybe a DVD?
> > 
> > Please help..
> > thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo!
> >
>
Answers<http://answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOARfcwMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcx>and
> > get answers from real people who know.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > shaheen a khayoom
> > +91-98959 49464
> >
>

[arr] Re: SWADES BGM RIPPED IN MALAYALAM FILM

[kaissiom]

Thank you. Proves my point.  

Anyone can rip a BGM, but it would be heart-breaking if some imposter
infiltrated into the group and walked away with all the BGMs shared on
the group.  Work done by Rahman, financed by financiers, ripped by
hardcore fans(with no intentions of piracy), and taken advantage of by
who knows who.

At least I would feel particularly guilty if I find out I have
somehow, inadvertently contributed to Rahman's work being copied or
pirated.

Just my opinion. 
-Insist on buying originals.

Regards.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "VijayNarain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Was flipping channels when this trailer on Asianet( wish I knew to
> read Malayalam) cught my attention. The bgm used was the one in swades
> during the reunion scene with kaveriamma in swades.. Just wondering,
> the bgms were an exclusive to the group..how did they get into the
film!!!
>

[arr] Re: Medley - the complete list.

[kaissiom]

I had received some queries about the music bits used in the medley. 
If you knew all the music bits, kudos to you.  And for the rest of us,
here's the complete list.  Hope it cures... "I know it, I know it, I
have it on tip of my tongue, damn it, could you please tell me what
song it is from xx:xx to xx:xx, my mind is going crazy!"

1.1947 Earth - Raat ki daldal
2.Bombay - Ek ho gaye hum aur tum
3.Bose - Durga pooja
4.Chor chor - Theme
5.Daud - Theme
6.Dil hi dil mein - Chand aya hai
7.Dil se - Chaiya chaiya
8.Dilne jise apna kaha - Zindagi hai dua
9.Doli saja ke rakhna - Taram pum
10.Duniya dilwalon ki - Mustafa mustafa
11.Hindustani - Maya machinda
12.Humse hai muqabala - Muqabala muqabala
13.Jeans - Tauba tauba
14.Kabhi na kabhi - Mere yaara dildara
15.Khel khiladi ka - Dil se dil zara
16.Kisna - My dream comes true
17.Lagaan - O rey chori
18.Lakeer - Offo jalta hai
19.Love birds - Samba samba
20.Love you hamesha - Gup chup batein
21.Mangal Pandey - Main vari vari
22.Meenaxi - Dhuan dhuan
23.Mr.Romeo - Pas aaja balam
24.Nayak - Rukhi sukhi roti
25.One 2 ka 4 - I'm sorry
26.Priyanka - Koi yahan roopmati
27.Pukar - Sunta hai mera khuda
28.Rangeela - Tanha tanha
29.Roja - Yeh haseen vadiyan
30.Saathiya - Saathiya
31.Sapnay - Ek bagiya mein
32.Swades - Yuhi chala chal
33.Taal - Ishq bina (sad)
34.Tehzeeb - Na shiqwa hota
35.Thakshak - Boondon se batein
36.The legend of Bhagat Singh - Sarfaroshi ki tammana
37.Tu hi mera dil - Tu hi mera dil
38.Muthu maharaja - Koi samjhade
39.Vishwavidhata - Jaan tum ho
40.Yuva - Kabhi neem neem
41.Zubeidaa - Mehendi hai rachnewali
42.Rang de basanti - Rang de basanti
43.DilNe Jise Apna Kaha - Zindagi hai dua
44.Dil Hi Dil Mein - Swargayi Swargayi
45.Silluno Oru Kadhal - Kummi Adi
46.Gentleman - Ottagatha Katti
47.Alaipayuthey - Yaro Yarodi
48.Roja - Chinna asai
49.Hum Se Hai Muqabala - Premika ne pyar
50.Love Birds - Come on Come on
51.Lagaan - Mitwa
52.Hindustani - Pyare panchi
53.Aa Aah - Thigu thigu
54.Kadhal Keithu Sei - Anarkali
55.Thenali - Alangatti
56.Yodha - Kulu kulu
57.Muthu - Thillana thillana
58.Dil Hi dil Mein - Chand aya hai
59.Doli Sajake Rakhna - Chal kheva re
60.Rageela - Rangeela re
61.Thakshak - Dheem ta da
62.Choreography - Raga Dance
63.Parasuram - Muppada nimidham
64.Lagaan - Radha kaise na jale
65.Godfather - Illamai
66.Doli Sajake Rakhna - Bol sajni
67.Airtel - Airtel Ad
68.Swades - Dhoti (BGM)
69.Aa Aah - Thigu thigu
70.En Suvasakkartrae - Chinna chinna mazhai
71.Love Birds - No Problem
72.Swades - Ayo re (BGM)
73.Rang De Basanti - Ayo (BGM)
74.Tehzeeb - Habibi (BGM)
75.Daud - Bhavre
76.Kandukondein Kandukondein - Kanamoochi
77.Thenali - Thenali
78.Gentleman - Chic buck chic buck
79.Khel Khiladi Ka - Chumma de
80.Bombay - Kuchi kuchi rakma
81.Taal - Kahin aag lage
82.Muthalvan - Azhagana raakshasiye
83.Swades - Pal pal hai bhari (flute)
84.Godfather - Illamai (remix)
85.Aa Aah - Maramkothiye
86.Boys - Secret of success
87.Baba - Baba neeku mukutta
88.Kandukondein Kandukondein - Ismaiyai ismaiyai
89.Bombay - Kehna hi kya
90.Kadhalan - Patti rap
91.Roja - Rukmani Rukmani
92.Thakshak - Rang de
93.Priyanka - Khili chandini
94.Alai Payuthey - Theme (BGM)
95.Tehzeeb - Meherbaan meherbaan
96.Taal - Ramta jogi
97.Bombay Dreams - Bombay Dreams
98.Rang De Basanti - Khalbali
99.New - If you wanna
100.Indian - Telephone manipol
111.Hindustani - Latka
112.Love Birds - Mil gaye mil gaye
113.Anthimanthaarai - Theme2
114.Tu hi mera dil - Ay chandini
115.E18U20 - Azhahinna azhahi
116.En Suvasakkartrae - Theendai
117.Mix - Aah aah
118.Mix - Yeh jo des hai
119.Mix - Luka chupi
120.Guru - Tere bina
121.Yuva - Fanaa

regards,
Wasim.
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "kaissiom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience, hope these links work better.  Thank you 
> all for the encouraging comments.  I just hope to add something to 
> group every once in a while.  Thanks
> 
> 64K:
> http://d.turboupload.com/d/1420710/Mix60_64k.zip.html
> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6OSLGZ42
> 
> 128K:
> http://d.turboupload.com/d/1420747/Mix60_128k.zip.html
> 
> regards,
> Wasim.
> 
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "kaissiom"  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Rahmaniacs,
> > 
> > Upon many requests, my promise to extend the original 20 minutes 
> > medley to 60 minutes is now fulfilled.  After months of work, in 
> and 
> > out of the project, combining some 120+ musical masterpieces, I 
> have 
> > been able to somewhat celebrate Rahman in 60 minutes of this 
> musical 
> > journey called "Mix60 @arrahmanfans."
> > 
> > I was working on two separate projects, the 60 medley and a 
> separate 
> > mix just for his birthday.  At the last minutes I decide to combine 
> > both projects.  The mix that appears towards the last 4 or 5 
> minutes 
> > of the medley was supposed to

[arr] Mix60 - updated links... including a link for better quality version

[kaissiom]

Sorry for the inconvenience, hope these links work better.  Thank you 
all for the encouraging comments.  I just hope to add something to 
group every once in a while.  Thanks

64K:
http://d.turboupload.com/d/1420710/Mix60_64k.zip.html
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6OSLGZ42

128K:
http://d.turboupload.com/d/1420747/Mix60_128k.zip.html

regards,
Wasim.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "kaissiom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Rahmaniacs,
> 
> Upon many requests, my promise to extend the original 20 minutes 
> medley to 60 minutes is now fulfilled.  After months of work, in 
and 
> out of the project, combining some 120+ musical masterpieces, I 
have 
> been able to somewhat celebrate Rahman in 60 minutes of this 
musical 
> journey called "Mix60 @arrahmanfans."
> 
> I was working on two separate projects, the 60 medley and a 
separate 
> mix just for his birthday.  At the last minutes I decide to combine 
> both projects.  The mix that appears towards the last 4 or 5 
minutes 
> of the medley was supposed to be the 2nd project, but there you 
have 
> it, both projects in one.. over 64 minutes of musical journey with 
> Rahman.
> 
> Just like before, test your knowledge of Rahman's music see if 
> you can correctly identify all the musical bits.  And if you can, 
> you certainly deserve a pat or two on the back because only some 
> dedicated fans would know all the music bits, unless you are a new 
> fan.  The 20 minute medley had some logic to it...it was a little 
> easier to identify all the tracks, but you'll find that the rest of 
> the 60 minute medley is all kinds of things mixed together.   So 
the 
> first 20 minutes are somewhat logical but the rest is just a 
mess... 
> I just did whatever I felt like... some parts have come off well.. 
> others.. I just liked doing anyway.  
> 
> 
> So, here's my Birthday wishes to Rahman, I wish him joy and even 
> more success in life and hope he continues to mesmerize us the way 
> he has.  Happy Birthday Rahman.
> 
> 
> Like always, your comments and criticisms are always welcome.  Do 
> let me know how you like it.  I have uploaded a low quality version 
> for space and piracy concerns, please e-mail me if you would like a 
> higher quality version.  Please read the note before downloading.
> 
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> downloading the content, you certify that you currently own the 
> original content and want to protect it from possible damage. This 
> is a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, 
> I'm only providing backups of the music you already own. I, 
> Kaissiom, will not be held accountable for the downloader's use of 
> my backups. If you sell, trade, or forfeit your ownership of your 
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> All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective third 
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> LINK: 
> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6OSLGZ42
> 
> regards,
> Wasim.
>

[arr] Birthday present from Me to Rahman and the Group... Mix60

[kaissiom]

Hello Rahmaniacs,

Upon many requests, my promise to extend the original 20 minutes 
medley to 60 minutes is now fulfilled.  After months of work, in and 
out of the project, combining some 120+ musical masterpieces, I have 
been able to somewhat celebrate Rahman in 60 minutes of this musical 
journey called "Mix60 @arrahmanfans."

I was working on two separate projects, the 60 medley and a separate 
mix just for his birthday.  At the last minutes I decide to combine 
both projects.  The mix that appears towards the last 4 or 5 minutes 
of the medley was supposed to be the 2nd project, but there you have 
it, both projects in one.. over 64 minutes of musical journey with 
Rahman.

Just like before, test your knowledge of Rahman's music see if 
you can correctly identify all the musical bits.  And if you can, 
you certainly deserve a pat or two on the back because only some 
dedicated fans would know all the music bits, unless you are a new 
fan.  The 20 minute medley had some logic to it...it was a little 
easier to identify all the tracks, but you'll find that the rest of 
the 60 minute medley is all kinds of things mixed together.   So the 
first 20 minutes are somewhat logical but the rest is just a mess... 
I just did whatever I felt like... some parts have come off well.. 
others.. I just liked doing anyway.  


So, here's my Birthday wishes to Rahman, I wish him joy and even 
more success in life and hope he continues to mesmerize us the way 
he has.  Happy Birthday Rahman.


Like always, your comments and criticisms are always welcome.  Do 
let me know how you like it.  I have uploaded a low quality version 
for space and piracy concerns, please e-mail me if you would like a 
higher quality version.  Please read the note before downloading.

NOTE: The content provided to you for downloading is strictly for 
backup purposes.  I, Kaissiom, certify that I own the original 
content(CDs/DVDs) and make duplicates for backup purposes only.  By 
downloading the content, you certify that you currently own the 
original content and want to protect it from possible damage. This 
is a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, 
I'm only providing backups of the music you already own. I, 
Kaissiom, will not be held accountable for the downloader's use of 
my backups. If you sell, trade, or forfeit your ownership of your 
original software, you agree to destroy the CDR or any digital 
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liabilities, which may arise - expressed, written, or implied. By 
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All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective third 
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LINK: 
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6OSLGZ42

regards,
Wasim.

[arr] Re: Silllunu Oru Kadhal OST - 256 Kbps VBR [Voiceless] NEW LINKS

[kaissiom]

Hey Dinesh, awesome work man.  Welcome to the club, we have one more
person to add to the BGMs.  Quality is really good, I'm assuming you
are using some software?  Looking forward to more awesome(quality and
quantity) BGMs from you.  Thank you for all your effort. 

regards,
Wasim.

> On 12/6/06, Dinesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   New links guys..
> >
> > SOK Voiceless BGM Part 1 -
> >
> > http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=626acea
> >
> > http://www.uploading.com/files/VNACILBP/Sillunu_Oru_Kadhal_OST_Part1.
> > zip.html
> >
> > SOK Voiceless BGM Part 2 -
> >
> > http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=f4a2e00
> >
> > http://www.uploading.com/files/VYYSNGHH/Sillunu_Oru_Kadhal_OST_Part2.
> > zip.html
> >
> > thanks for all ur support guysabout how i did the voiceless
> > BGM,thanks to all our very own meber right here in the
> > group...Prasanth..his guide on creating such has helped me in
> > creeating this voiceless BGM... here is the link for his guide :
> >
> > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/message/65828
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> regards,
> ranjith
>

[arr] WOHE BGMs - Believe it or Not - Uploaded!

[kaissiom]

Hello Rahmaniacs,

Here I am, doing what I do best... crave for more and more Rahman. 
Believe it or not, I got this crazy idea of ripping WOHE BGMs (why
would one think about that?).  Anyway, I decided to check it out and
to my surprise, I did find some BGMs, about 7 of them, plus one.

Salutes are in order... Mr.Rahman.  He has not used exact same CD
soundtracks in the Movie, he has mixed and matched them.  Listen to it
yourself and see what I mean, although some are entirely new tracks.

Now, I found 7 BGMs, but there is an additional track that was in "The
making of WOHE" which I'm not sure is by Rahman.  It could be, it
could be not, there's some tabla in it  You be the judge.  The
track is called "Belly Dancers".  The BGM in the movie is different
from the BGM in the making of.  We all know Rahman changes stuff until
the last second, so it could be a "work in progress", but it is
completely different in the movie. 

Well, I thought my effort was worth it, but, you guys let me know
what you think.

http://d.turboupload.com/d/511517/WOHE_BGM.zip.html
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8EAAKYBY
http://rapidshare.de/files/17962568/WOHE_BGM.zip.html

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[arr] Ready for a treat?

[kaissiom]

Hello Rahmaniacs!

I don't really know what the occasion is, but I decided to treat you
guys anyways.  I guess we don't really need any reason to celebrate
Rahman, do we?
 
Without wasting anytime,here it is..

RDBBGMs:
17 BGMs
Plus, a bonus Luka Chuppi MIX, which is a mix of 4 different Luka
Chuppis(flute, two voiceless and original). 
 
http://rapidshare.de/files/16448751/RDBBGM.zip.html

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PX3GELBX

Let me know how you like the BGMs and the Mix.

Enjoy,
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[arr] Couple of BGMs - uploaded.

[kaissiom]

Hello fellow Rahmaniacs!

It feels great to post something on the group again.  I'm busy with
studies but I'll post something now and then.  There have been quite a
few requests for the following, so here they are:

1.Bombay-BGM-Aankhoun mein (this is the Hindi counter-part of Malarodu
malar)-This one is just beautiful, a must have!!! for Hindi listeners.

2.Rangeela-BGM-End Credits (faster Rangeela mix)

3.Karen David- Carry Me Home (sample)

Here are couple of links:

http://rapidshare.de/files/16196319/3drops.zip.html

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WZ8EKE16

Enjoy!

I have Carry Me Home here because I wanted to bring this up.  Does
anyone have the complete version of this song and Shillong Shillong? 
These songs are supposed to be out there.  I have the complete version
of the live version of this song, with no instruments, which is
actually a beautiful song but it sounds even more amazing with the
instruments. Then, I have two other 30 seconds samples of Carry Me
Home and Shillong Shillong.  I have looked everywhere online, can't
find a single retailer of these songs.  If anyone knows where we can
buy this CD please let us know.  London fans... please help me buy
this CD.

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[arr] Habibi (Tehzeeb) - uploaded.

[kaissiom]

Hello fellow Rahmaniacs.

I have uploaded the Habibi BGM from Tehzeeb, I'm working on Tehzeeb
right now, but it is going to take a while.  As far as I am concerned,
I've been busy with my studies.  And it looks like it is going to stay
that way for a few months.  I have not forgotten what I had promised:
Tehzeeb, Zubieda and Earth.  It's just going to take some time, sorry
for the delay.

Enjoy!

Rapidshare: 
http://rapidshare.de/files/13587384/Tehzeeb_-_Habibi_256k.mp3.html

Megaupload: 
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0ONA2EQE


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[arr] The Medley - the answers + HQV + the story behind it.

[kaissiom]

First of all, thank you all for the comments.  I was not expecting the
response I got for this medley, it was just overwhelming and positive.

HQV (High Quality Version) - Thanks to Bharath (singingphotons), he
has agreed to host the high quality version of this thing on his
server,  he will post a message once he has it up on his server.

Here are the answers (I told you some of them will not be so obvious):

I forgot to mention, Aa Aah was not supposed to be part of the medley.
 I have just decided that everything I do will start with Anbe Aruyire
intro I made(Rahman sir's voice).

Some of you did come close, it is just all the Hindi movies of Rahman
A-Z, there are a couple of exceptions.

1.1947 Earth - Raat ki daldal
2.Bombay - Ek ho gaye hum aur tum
3.Bose - Durga pooja
4.Chor chor - Theme
5.Daud - Theme
6.Dil hi dil mein - Chand aya hai
7.Dil se - Chaiya chaiya
8.Dilne jise apna kaha - Zindagi hai dua
9.Doli saja ke rakhna - Taram pum
10.Duniya dilwalon ki - Mustafa mustafa
11.Hindustani - Maya machinda
12.Humse hai muqabala - Muqabala muqabala
13.Jeans - Tauba tauba
14.Kabhi na kabhi - Mere yaara dildara
15.Khel khiladi ka - Dil se dil zara
16.Kisna - My dream comes true
17.Lagaan - O rey chori
18.Lakeer - Offo jalta hai
19.Love birds - Samba samba
20.Love you hamesha - Gup chup batein
21.Mangal Pandey - Main vari vari
22.Meenaxi - Dhuan dhuan
23.Mr.Romeo - Pas aaja balam
24.Nayak - Rukhi sukhi roti
25.One 2 ka 4 - I'm sorry
26.Priyanka - Koi yahan roopmati
27.Pukar - Sunta hai mera khuda
28.Rangeela - Tanha tanha
29.Roja - Yeh haseen vadiyan
30.Saathiya - Saathiya
31.Sapnay - Ek bagiya mein
32.Swades - Yuhi chala chal
33.Taal - Ishq bina (sad)
34.Tehzeeb - Na shiqwa hota
35.Thakshak - Boondon se batein
36.The legend of Bhagat Singh - Sarfaroshi ki tammana
37.Tu hi mera dil - Tu hi mera dil
38.Muthu maharaja - Koi samjhade 
39.Vishwavidhata - Jaan tum ho
40.Yuva - Kabhi neem neem
41.Zubeidaa - Mehendi hai rachnewali
42.Rang de basanti - Rang de basanti (Newly added)

So, congratulate yourself if you got them all right, and if you didn't
, I don't blame you, there were some tricky ones.

Exceptions: Fiza is ommited because it did not really have any
interlude, Muthu Maharaja is misplaced because I had it in a different
folder, due to its lyrics.

The story:

I had been planning to do a medley of Rahman songs for a long time,
but I have always been putting if off because his music is so
versatile that it would be impossible to make a clean and smooth
medley.  Finally when I heard Manish's Swades theme, I decided to give
it a try.  Of course, there is the dilemma of deciding what songs to
use.  I decided I was just going to concentrate on the Hindi movies,
since it is a smaller library compared to Tamil.  I decided to use one
song from each movie... so there it is.. some 42 songs.. around 21
minutes and the best part is they came out very well, clean and
smooth.  I have never done so much editing in my life before... over 2
overs of sheer editing.

Insha'allah, I'm planning to extend it to 60 or 80 minutes, that way
it can be burned on a CD - 80 mins of pure bliss.

p.s. It is good to see that RDB is getting a lot of positive reviews,
we need a hit in Hindi.  It is releasing tommorow here, in California,
I'll catch it tommorow.

regards,
Wasim.   
 

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>
> Hello fellow Rahmaniacs.
> 
> I heard Manish's Swades theme yesterday and was inspired by the loops,
> so decided to play with a few songs... and the end product... a medley
> of about 40 songs(each from a different movie), lasting 21 minutes. 
> See if you can identify all the songs and the movie, and tell if it is
> the interlude or the beginning, etc..Some are very obvious, others are
> not, gauge you knowledge of these gems... I hope all the people in
> this group know these songs, unless you are a NEW Rahman fan.
> 
> http://hyperupload.com/download/c8843938/Medley64K.mp3.html
> 
> Do provide comments as I would like to know if you guys liked it or
> not.  I'm posting a low quality version to save space, if you guys
> like I can post a higher quality version later.
> 
> p.s. I'm planning to do the following BGMs
> 1.Meenaxi
> 2.Tehzeeb
> 3.1947 Earth
> 
> p.p.s. Can't wait until I watch Rang De Basanti.
> 
> Regards,
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[arr] A little trivia

[kaissiom]

Hello fellow Rahmaniacs.

I heard Manish's Swades theme yesterday and was inspired by the loops,
so decided to play with a few songs... and the end product... a medley
of about 40 songs(each from a different movie), lasting 21 minutes. 
See if you can identify all the songs and the movie, and tell if it is
the interlude or the beginning, etc..Some are very obvious, others are
not, gauge you knowledge of these gems... I hope all the people in
this group know these songs, unless you are a NEW Rahman fan.

http://hyperupload.com/download/c8843938/Medley64K.mp3.html

Do provide comments as I would like to know if you guys liked it or
not.  I'm posting a low quality version to save space, if you guys
like I can post a higher quality version later.

p.s. I'm planning to do the following BGMs
1.Meenaxi
2.Tehzeeb
3.1947 Earth

p.p.s. Can't wait until I watch Rang De Basanti.

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Re:[arr] Kandukonden Kandukonden BGMs(voiceless)

[kaissiom]

Here's a link to rapidshare:

http://rapidshare.de/files/11578097/KK_BGM.zip.html

megaupload:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZAGCZ56K

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pankaj Kakkar
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> hi kai this is what megaupload says now. "Service temporarily
unavailable due to site maintenance. Please check back in a few
minutes. We apologize for the inconvenience." please send it to some
server or better mozart in gmail. thanks Pankaj :-)?
> 
> kaissiom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hello fellow Rahmaniacs,
> 
> Without any talking, here' the link:
> 
> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZAGCZ56K
> 
> Bharath bhai singingphotons wale, could you please add these to you
> server, thanks.
> 
> And now, thank you Prashanth for Padaiyappa BGMs, and I would like to
> apologize to Prashanth because he is also working on Kandukonden
> Kandukonden, I just found out yesterday.  It takes a lot of time and
> patience to rip these BGMs, so it is better not to have multiple
> people working on same BGMs.  Well, now, since we already have another
> batch of KK BGMs; Prashanth, I may have missed some BGMs, or yours may
> be a better quality, so do upload them.  
> 
> And to avoid futher confusion, anyone who is going to rip BGMs, please
> share you plans in the group.  For now, I'm planning to do 1947 Earth
> and Meenax, and I will let you guys know if for some reason I can't do
> them.
> 
> regards,
> Wasim.
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[arr] Kandukonden Kandukonden BGMs(voiceless)

[kaissiom]

Hello fellow Rahmaniacs,

Without any talking, here' the link:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZAGCZ56K

Bharath bhai singingphotons wale, could you please add these to you
server, thanks.
 
And now, thank you Prashanth for Padaiyappa BGMs, and I would like to
apologize to Prashanth because he is also working on Kandukonden
Kandukonden, I just found out yesterday.  It takes a lot of time and
patience to rip these BGMs, so it is better not to have multiple
people working on same BGMs.  Well, now, since we already have another
batch of KK BGMs; Prashanth, I may have missed some BGMs, or yours may
be a better quality, so do upload them.  

And to avoid futher confusion, anyone who is going to rip BGMs, please
share you plans in the group.  For now, I'm planning to do 1947 Earth
and Meenax, and I will let you guys know if for some reason I can't do
them.

regards,
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[arr] This is interesting...... + update on BGMs.

[kaissiom]

Hey guys, 

I came across this one site and not only found it usefull but very
interesting.  Thought I should share...seem likes Bollywood is pretty
harsh about giving awards.  Rahman sir seems to have most awardsit
actually ends with "and many more awards".  Seems like many composers
had to struggle for years before they could get a chance or they could
score a hit.  I also learned/compared a lot about many other
MD's...did you guys know before becoming a composer Ismail Darbar
played Violin for many MD'sincluding Rahman.  After reviewing many
MDs' bios, I found Naushad saab closest to Rahman.  I didn't know much
about Illayaraja, but now I know he is a genius in his own league, I
guess every composer is... oh, do check out the last paragraph on
Illayaraja (in context to Rahman.) and I insist you check out Himesh
Reshmaiya.  Alright, enough of my rambling... here's the site...

http://www.hindilyrix.com/musicians/

and regarding the BGM's I have a bad news... I was going to do
Rangeela and Daud, turns out that they are not true surround sound
meaning voiceless are not possible.  In the meanwhile, I had got my
hands on Thenaali, ripped some BGMs, it doesn't have too many
BGMs...more like 8 or 9 in total.  I don't know if I should upload
those or not... let me know and I will upload them if you guys want.

p.s. Hey AJ could you also try to rip Rangeela or Daud, who
knows...may be I have fake 5.1s, although I think they are originals.
  And I can't recall if you did Dil se.., I know I played around with
a couple tracks in Dil se, but I didn't do the BGMs.  So, is Dil se
pending? I'm going to do Earth, let's hope it's 5.1 and I will do Dil
se if it not already done.  Let me know, thanks.

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[arr] Re: Jeans BGMs - missing ones

[kaissiom]

Wow, Aravind.  You cought me there.  I respect your eye/ear for
details.  You see I'm like that too.  I know these BGMs and I have
ommitted them on purpose.  You see what happens is when a movie is
done in sync sound, like Lagaan and Swades, we are able to extract
every single BGM, even if it's 10 seconds long, without any problem. 
Jeans is an older movie and is not done in sync sound.  So, the BGMs
have additional sounds in the Background.  It takes an average of 3 to
4 hours to rip the background score from a movie, and maybe additional
hour to edit them.  First I have to watch the entire movie and rip the
selectvie parts, then edit out the beginning and end, and in some
cases like the The Fake BGM it is actually a mixture of 3 BGMs at
different points in the movie. 

So, the BGMs you mentioned could have been ommitted for multiple
reasons.  And I'm picky about that myself.  No matter how beautiful
the BGM is, sometimes the additional sounds are put it in the
background and all you hear is the additional sounds, or your
attention is grabbed by the additional sounds.  The Hospital BGM you
mentioned... I had actually ripped that...but I eventually dropped it
in the editing phase.  It has a lot of beeps from the machine they
were using on her. The BGM where he gets mad at the surgeons was
recorded but was dropped in editing, because it is in a long room and
Rahman sir has used the echo effect so you can hear everything they
are saying, again spoiling the BGM.  I Think I had ripped about 26
BGMs to start with, but I ended  up with only 17, and that is common
with non-sync movies.

I hope you understand... the BGMs themselves are beutiful and can be
enjoyed while watching a movie, but they don't sound right with
additional sounds when you just listen to them on winamp.

regards,
Wasim.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Aravind a.m." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> Hi Wasim,
>   
>  U have done a great job with the Jeans BGMs... thanx a lo...
but, i noticed that some of the very good BGMs - like Grandma admitted
in hospital (before the escape scene), Prashanth argues (when
prashanth argues with the doctors about the mistake), Return to
Chennai etc. - are missing it would be really nice of u if u could
rip these also...
>   
> Regards,
> Aravind
> 
> 
>   
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[arr] Re: Jeans BGMs (voiceless) - try rapidshare.

[kaissiom]

Wow, that was an unexpected response.  There seems to be considerable
amount of dowloads or "attempted" downloads.  But as usual some people
are having problem downloading, I'm uploading the same to rapidshare.
 Hope one of these two work for all of you.  In the mean while, I
request Neil and other who can... to share it on their server.  I'm
planning to have my own dedicated Rahman server pretty soon, where
I'll share all my past and present offerings.

Rapidshare: http://rapidshare.de/files/10801393/Jeans_BGM.zip.html

Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XTC1SNFE

If for some reason you are still unable to download, please e-mail me
and I'll forward you the zip file.


p.s. Neil, haven't heard from you in a while, eagerly waiting for your
site, and the server plans are still pending.

regards.
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "kaissiom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Rahmaniacs,
> 
> I have a feeling not everybody is interested in ALL BGMs.  Was anyone
> waiting for Jeans BGM?  Well, here it is for whoever is interested.  
> 
> I have ripped BGMs for quite a few albums so far, Alhamdulillah.  But
> I was not expecting this from Jeans.  There are not a lot of pieces,
> it's not done in sync sound, he has actually used some of the song
> tunes as BGM, and still the BGMs are just awesome.  It is the first
> time I cried, while ripping a BGM.  The Infants BGM and the Fake BGM
> made me cry.  Overall, Jeans BGM turned out to be quite refreshing. 
> One of the BGMs sounds like Desh Ki Mitti from Bose, just the
> beginning part, for a few seconds.  There is also the song sung by
> Sonu Nigam(sorry, I have Jeans in Hindi)...Zindagi Mujhe Tu, not
> featured in tapes or CDs probably because it's short.   
> 
> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XTC1SNFE
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> regards,
> wasim.
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Re: [arr] Saathiya BGMs (voiceless) -- INDIAN BGM Coming soon..

[kaissiom]

Hey No Problem man, just doing public service.  I'm glad to just be
part of this wonderful group where we can share so much about the SHY
one.  Thanks to all the people involved in this group...even the
silent members.

p.s. Found something interesting while ripping Saathiya... for one of
the market sequences, he used the loop that appears in the beginning
of Bombay Dreams. 

Wasim.   
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "AJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hey Wasim,
> 
> Thanks for the Saathiya Score. Very well done!
> And that's great news that you are going to get voiceless BGM from
"Earth". I do have the movie somewhere but it is in 2.0.
> So, please go ahead with that as we all are eagerly awaiting it! :-)
> 
> AJ
> 
> P.S.: The "Indian"-Score will be online in these days!
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: kaissiom 
>   To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:59 AM
>   Subject: [arr] Saathiya BGMs (voiceless)
> 
> 
>   The Saathiya Theme(Alaipayuthey Theme) is just mindblowing.
> 
>   http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LS8NQRA9
> 
> 
>   Regards,
>   Wasim.
> 
> 
> 
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