[AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
Oak it looks like we ended up agreeing in the end. I have no problm with choices people make. Go to private school, move to a good public district, etc. I support all of it. I do have a problem with government screwing things up by injecting themselves into it, which is what wrecked APHS - not parental choices. When buying a house, I absolutely avoided Asbury Park and the sending district because the High School is now segregated. I know that many, many other people did the same. That wasn't the case before the RBR ruling. I went to APHS with the sons of doctors, lawyers and millinaire businessmen. Yes, having that demographic was helpful to the poorer kids. That's gone thanks to the ruling. Look at real estate listings. Many of them list private schools on the listing so as not to list APHS. I laugh and cry everytime I see it. Since Avon no longer goes to APHS, their real estate has skyrocketed, now topping $1 Million on the MEDIAN house sale, and holding steady in this downturn. Everything changed when the Commissioner ruled that RBR having a better music program than Asbury Park is more important than whether a black kid goes to a segregated school. Read the decision that Mario linked. That was the ruling. It's the most bigoted, racist piece of government work I've seen in my lifetime, and it is shamelessly ignored. It's ignored because those with the political power in the area benefit from the ruling (like Avon); those without the power suffer from it (Asbury). Just imagine the classic busing issue: If a primarily white school in the area was suddenly going to be filled with poor black kids from Asbury, people would go berserk. There would be all sorts of lawsuits to stop it, with claims of government interference, social engineering, and claims that the school's natural demographic should be preserved. That ruling by the Commissioner is exactly the same thing with the colors reversed. The NATURAL DEMOGRAPHIC of APHS was racially and economically diversified, just as Ocean Township is now. The ruling destroyed that by busing the white kids past Asbury Park to another public school in Little Silver. Who is going to file the the Federal Civil Rights lawsuit claiming de facto segregation (can anyone claim that wasn't the result of the ruling with a straight face)? Are the white parents who are avoiding APHS going to do it? No. The poor black parents? I don't think so. AP Board of Ed? No, too busy gossiping and in fighting to tackle something so serious and important. If APHS was naturally segregated by race, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me. Since it is racially segregateed by the government with busing to another public school, I'm confident my objection is on the moral high ground, even if I stand alone. Standing alone though, I'm starting to feel like I don't care anymore either. The state can keep the school segregated, Asbury Park Board of Ed (Bored of Ed?) can keep taking the Abbott hush money and not challenge the segregation ruling, and none of it is going to hurt me. So why should I care? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TD, You and I can both stop, take residence in AP, and stick our kids there. but we haven't. I'd take a gamble on those beers that Deal, Allenhurst, Belmar have LESS HS age kids eligible to go to AP. Then you have determine why those parents CHOOSE to send their kids to a private school, parochial school or to a county speciality school. IT's choice. You and I have made it as well, by choosing to live in towns other then AP with a schools that are well diversified in race and incomes - that being Howell and OT. OT and Howell are not the same as in 1996 nor in are they in our era of the late 70's either. In '75 my class (8th grade) had 3 african american students - and I can name them. In '79 I could still name a few more african american students. And I;m saying I can name them as a good thing casue we were all friends. I can say today the make-up of the the student body, at least in OT, is about as diversified as it can be on all levels - race, incomes, family status etc. As such, in my view, the teaching methods have changed dramatically. I wish I could convince my son to go to CBA, and I'd be willing to pay. It's school. Not a playground. They'll kick your ass out as fast as they cashed your check. As for qualifying to go to a speciality school, you shouldnt have to. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
[AsburyPark] Re: 10 hours on I-95
Dennis I agree on the government holding up the works on development. I wrote a column years ago about it (then several follow-ups)with reference to the waterfront. Developers had to get the Cafra permit, and appear before the City at the Planning Board, Techinical Review Committee and City Council, and then get bounced back and forth between the various boards. Then there is the permit and inspection process. The beachfront would have been developed much faster without all of that, if we let the people with the expertise in building, build. Carter Sackman once told me that when his company re-developed Journal Square in Jersey City, they had to appear before the government - once. But alas, Asbury Park is a City where the idea of more and more government controls on business was embraced instead of shunned. What sort of political background allows for that again? Also, AP wanted folks who were not investing to have a say over the money of people who were investing. That's why people like you Dennis were forced to bring your plans and genuflect before people sitting on boards who never hammered a nail in their life. The end result is what you got Dennis - government delay, delay delay, until we ran headfirst into the wall of a national real estate collapse. But at least the government got to maintain control of it all. That was important. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gives you many minutes to ponder. RE: AP needs money: All the ideas presented were execellent. Here is one that, because of the new people in the building dept., is underway. It is, become much, much, much more developer friendly. When we undertook the makeover of the 300 block of 4th Ave, possibly the worst block in the city, the city cost us at least 12 months. Between fighting for permits, getting harassed by zoning, and zero help from anyone in city hall, 2 condo projects that could have meant over 90 new tax paying homeowners, the delays caused our sales to start right when the market started to turn. Instead of welcoming the developers, Fasano, Sigmund and Gifford, they were treated as if they were thieves in the night. City officials should have celebrated the projects and got behind them. The end result, 304 4th ave ended up in auctions and, sadly, the building is reverting to the mess that it was prior to our cleaning in up. I am a very big fan of Terry Reidy, but I put the bulk of the blame on him. Despite our constant begging of him to step in and assist us, he did not. Yes, we deserve a portion of the blame. Stupid arrogance did get in the way. But when you venture millions of your own money, albeit to make money, there should be some give and take. Again, I believe if we started this project under the new building department personnel, the project would have evolved the way we imagined. RE: Hamilton and the drfiveway. I had the same thing happen to me. Gypsy pavers offered to pave my driveway(in Oceanport) for $700. Once they got started it became $3200. I threw them off my property and have enjoyed the hald a driveway they paved. RE: House of Blues. I ask you, is there anyone more connected than our very own Dan S? RE: Moving city hall to the west side. How is this not a no brainer? The West Side of AP has been neglected since day 1. The people who live there have earned and deserve this. Get the project moving and eff the whole idea of a redevelopment poroject. Make the vacant land available, make it available to minority buyers t incredible incentives and get the governing ding bats out of the way and allow captalism, you all remember good old American capitalism, to take over. within a very short period of time, Springwood Ave and the West Side will be transformed into a vibrant, money making community. The nicest people live on the west side, again, they deserve this. RE:The Baronet. Fishman bought the theater promisin(at council meetings) and to the seller, Fasano, that he would keep the Baronet going. He chased us away and the theater is quickly falling into the state it was in when we bought it. I tried to discuss the logical idea of developing the Baronet, Fast Lane and Asbury Lanes, along with the Pryor Pavillion, into what it is. Agenuine Historical Arts District that would be a great tourist draw for the entire city. Larry Fishman refuse my calls, never returned a acall, and when I did finally get to speak with him, he continued his lying ways. The most important thing that can happen is for thsi lying, no account piece fo garbage to be ridden out of Asbury on a rail. He has done the city immeasurable harm. Thankfully, we were able to broach the idea to Gary Mottolla and he was morfe than receptive. Again, Fishman remains in the way. RE: The Blue Bishop football team. Get behind them. These guys,
[AsburyPark] Re: E Street's Van Zandt has Drawn Up a High School Music Curriculum
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: house of blues would mean live nation in town..that would be HUGE! In July 2006 Live Nation announced it has entered into a definitive merger agreement to acquire HOB Entertainment, Inc., the operator of the House of Blues chain of music halls and restaurants. Madison M. are in heavy negotiations with live nation, heres hopeing --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: something along the lines of a House of Blues. You must have ESP. I hear rumors Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 10 hours on I-95
Great Post Traderdube. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gives you many minutes to ponder. RE: AP needs money: All the ideas presented were execellent. Here is one that, because of the new people in the building dept., is underway. It is, become much, much, much more developer friendly. When we undertook the makeover of the 300 block of 4th Ave, possibly the worst block in the city, the city cost us at least 12 months. Between fighting for permits, getting harassed by zoning, and zero help from anyone in city hall, 2 condo projects that could have meant over 90 new tax paying homeowners, the delays caused our sales to start right when the market started to turn. Instead of welcoming the developers, Fasano, Sigmund and Gifford, they were treated as if they were thieves in the night. City officials should have celebrated the projects and got behind them. The end result, 304 4th ave ended up in auctions and, sadly, the building is reverting to the mess that it was prior to our cleaning in up. I am a very big fan of Terry Reidy, but I put the bulk of the blame on him. Despite our constant begging of him to step in and assist us, he did not. Yes, we deserve a portion of the blame. Stupid arrogance did get in the way. But when you venture millions of your own money, albeit to make money, there should be some give and take. Again, I believe if we started this project under the new building department personnel, the project would have evolved the way we imagined. RE: Hamilton and the drfiveway. I had the same thing happen to me. Gypsy pavers offered to pave my driveway(in Oceanport) for $700. Once they got started it became $3200. I threw them off my property and have enjoyed the hald a driveway they paved. RE: House of Blues. I ask you, is there anyone more connected than our very own Dan S? RE: Moving city hall to the west side. How is this not a no brainer? The West Side of AP has been neglected since day 1. The people who live there have earned and deserve this. Get the project moving and eff the whole idea of a redevelopment poroject. Make the vacant land available, make it available to minority buyers t incredible incentives and get the governing ding bats out of the way and allow captalism, you all remember good old American capitalism, to take over. within a very short period of time, Springwood Ave and the West Side will be transformed into a vibrant, money making community. The nicest people live on the west side, again, they deserve this. RE:The Baronet. Fishman bought the theater promisin(at council meetings) and to the seller, Fasano, that he would keep the Baronet going. He chased us away and the theater is quickly falling into the state it was in when we bought it. I tried to discuss the logical idea of developing the Baronet, Fast Lane and Asbury Lanes, along with the Pryor Pavillion, into what it is. Agenuine Historical Arts District that would be a great tourist draw for the entire city. Larry Fishman refuse my calls, never returned a acall, and when I did finally get to speak with him, he continued his lying ways. The most important thing that can happen is for thsi lying, no account piece fo garbage to be ridden out of Asbury on a rail. He has done the city immeasurable harm. Thankfully, we were able to broach the idea to Gary Mottolla and he was morfe than receptive. Again, Fishman remains in the way. RE: The Blue Bishop football team. Get behind them. These guys, despite the overwhelming odds, are the epitome of champions. While we're at it, we should embrace APHS's glorious sports tradition. The men and woman who excelled are all getting old, there should be something done to preserve the unbelievalble APHS sports tradition. Happy Thanksgiving, I hope the dog finds his way home. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 10 hours on I-95
I hope Asbury Park finds its way home too. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy Thanksgiving, I hope the dog finds his way home. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
Also a very very good post. Tom I think that if you ever wanted to do the one thing in your life that could truly help Asbury Park, this might be the answer. I think many would support you in this endeavor. And kinda knowing you, you would not care what the opposition thought. How much money would something like this cost to have a case like this fought and won? I know this would be just an estimate. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oak it looks like we ended up agreeing in the end. I have no problm with choices people make. Go to private school, move to a good public district, etc. I support all of it. I do have a problem with government screwing things up by injecting themselves into it, which is what wrecked APHS - not parental choices. When buying a house, I absolutely avoided Asbury Park and the sending district because the High School is now segregated. I know that many, many other people did the same. That wasn't the case before the RBR ruling. I went to APHS with the sons of doctors, lawyers and millinaire businessmen. Yes, having that demographic was helpful to the poorer kids. That's gone thanks to the ruling. Look at real estate listings. Many of them list private schools on the listing so as not to list APHS. I laugh and cry everytime I see it. Since Avon no longer goes to APHS, their real estate has skyrocketed, now topping $1 Million on the MEDIAN house sale, and holding steady in this downturn. Everything changed when the Commissioner ruled that RBR having a better music program than Asbury Park is more important than whether a black kid goes to a segregated school. Read the decision that Mario linked. That was the ruling. It's the most bigoted, racist piece of government work I've seen in my lifetime, and it is shamelessly ignored. It's ignored because those with the political power in the area benefit from the ruling (like Avon); those without the power suffer from it (Asbury). Just imagine the classic busing issue: If a primarily white school in the area was suddenly going to be filled with poor black kids from Asbury, people would go berserk. There would be all sorts of lawsuits to stop it, with claims of government interference, social engineering, and claims that the school's natural demographic should be preserved. That ruling by the Commissioner is exactly the same thing with the colors reversed. The NATURAL DEMOGRAPHIC of APHS was racially and economically diversified, just as Ocean Township is now. The ruling destroyed that by busing the white kids past Asbury Park to another public school in Little Silver. Who is going to file the the Federal Civil Rights lawsuit claiming de facto segregation (can anyone claim that wasn't the result of the ruling with a straight face)? Are the white parents who are avoiding APHS going to do it? No. The poor black parents? I don't think so. AP Board of Ed? No, too busy gossiping and in fighting to tackle something so serious and important. If APHS was naturally segregated by race, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me. Since it is racially segregateed by the government with busing to another public school, I'm confident my objection is on the moral high ground, even if I stand alone. Standing alone though, I'm starting to feel like I don't care anymore either. The state can keep the school segregated, Asbury Park Board of Ed (Bored of Ed?) can keep taking the Abbott hush money and not challenge the segregation ruling, and none of it is going to hurt me. So why should I care? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: TD, You and I can both stop, take residence in AP, and stick our kids there. but we haven't. I'd take a gamble on those beers that Deal, Allenhurst, Belmar have LESS HS age kids eligible to go to AP. Then you have determine why those parents CHOOSE to send their kids to a private school, parochial school or to a county speciality school. IT's choice. You and I have made it as well, by choosing to live in towns other then AP with a schools that are well diversified in race and incomes - that being Howell and OT. OT and Howell are not the same as in 1996 nor in are they in our era of the late 70's either. In '75 my class (8th grade) had 3 african american students - and I can name them. In '79 I could still name a few more african american students. And I;m saying I can name them as a good thing casue we were all friends. I can say today the make-up of the the student body, at least in OT, is about as diversified as it can be on all levels - race, incomes, family status etc. As such, in my view, the teaching methods have changed dramatically. I wish I could convince my son to go to CBA, and I'd be willing to pay. It's
[AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
-TD, we care because we've seen blow by for 40 years and have SOME common sense. We've lived it, seen it, heard it. Today after milllons and millons tossed around AP by the state and feds, its the private $ making the bigger difference. We want to see to money used wiesly, not stolen for those it was intended. You call it hush money or opayback or equality. Give a great CEO $100m to run a company or be creative. AP BOE has to run like a great company with a $100m budget. The output - kids educated and groomed for the future. Bring in a great leader, a visionary a proven educator. Be creative. Build a great Music program, science program - it can become the best school in the nation - or the best african american school in the nation. It could turn out doctors, lawyers, educators, scientists - you name it. Pick 1, 2 or 3 or more and excel. You like RBR or CBA - then model a program after that. It's called discipline. It might be a school where those white parents WANT to send their kids - and the kids can't get in. You got the $, now dream it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
Gentlemen I agree with you when it comes to this issue. I also agree it would be a good long drawn out trial ---the problem I have at this point is I live in AP and would not send my child to AP public schools at this time. We really need to be taking on the task of fixing the problems in the schools that we have now -getting the state out of our public schools, changing the dropout rates and pulling up the grades of our children. My child is presently in the third grade at Hope Academy Charter and I am researching Charter and private schools at this time because when she graduates the 8th grade (5 years from now) I will not be sending her to AP public schools and that is basically the concensus of parents in HACS. I have even spoken to several parents who have children in Thurgood and Bradley who would love to find a way out of sending their child to the middle or high school. So even though it is morally wrong for the commissioner to segregate the schools I don't know how many people would stand with you and fight the issue knowing the problems we have in AP schools. - Original Message From: rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:19:43 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late Also a very very good post. Tom I think that if you ever wanted to do the one thing in your life that could truly help Asbury Park, this might be the answer. I think many would support you in this endeavor. And kinda knowing you, you would not care what the opposition thought. How much money would something like this cost to have a case like this fought and won? I know this would be just an estimate. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ ... wrote: Oak it looks like we ended up agreeing in the end. I have no problm with choices people make. Go to private school, move to a good public district, etc. I support all of it. I do have a problem with government screwing things up by injecting themselves into it, which is what wrecked APHS - not parental choices. When buying a house, I absolutely avoided Asbury Park and the sending district because the High School is now segregated. I know that many, many other people did the same. That wasn't the case before the RBR ruling. I went to APHS with the sons of doctors, lawyers and millinaire businessmen. Yes, having that demographic was helpful to the poorer kids. That's gone thanks to the ruling. Look at real estate listings. Many of them list private schools on the listing so as not to list APHS. I laugh and cry everytime I see it. Since Avon no longer goes to APHS, their real estate has skyrocketed, now topping $1 Million on the MEDIAN house sale, and holding steady in this downturn. Everything changed when the Commissioner ruled that RBR having a better music program than Asbury Park is more important than whether a black kid goes to a segregated school. Read the decision that Mario linked. That was the ruling. It's the most bigoted, racist piece of government work I've seen in my lifetime, and it is shamelessly ignored. It's ignored because those with the political power in the area benefit from the ruling (like Avon); those without the power suffer from it (Asbury). Just imagine the classic busing issue: If a primarily white school in the area was suddenly going to be filled with poor black kids from Asbury, people would go berserk. There would be all sorts of lawsuits to stop it, with claims of government interference, social engineering, and claims that the school's natural demographic should be preserved. That ruling by the Commissioner is exactly the same thing with the colors reversed. The NATURAL DEMOGRAPHIC of APHS was racially and economically diversified, just as Ocean Township is now. The ruling destroyed that by busing the white kids past Asbury Park to another public school in Little Silver. Who is going to file the the Federal Civil Rights lawsuit claiming de facto segregation (can anyone claim that wasn't the result of the ruling with a straight face)? Are the white parents who are avoiding APHS going to do it? No. The poor black parents? I don't think so. AP Board of Ed? No, too busy gossiping and in fighting to tackle something so serious and important. If APHS was naturally segregated by race, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me. Since it is racially segregateed by the government with busing to another public school, I'm confident my objection is on the moral high ground, even if I stand alone. Standing alone though, I'm starting to feel like I don't care anymore either. The state can keep the school segregated, Asbury Park Board of Ed (Bored of Ed?) can keep taking the Abbott hush money and not challenge the segregation ruling, and none of it is going to hurt me. So why
[AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
. My child is presently in the third grade at Hope Academy Charter and I am researching Charter and private schools at this time because when she graduates the 8th grade (5 years from now) I will not be sending her to AP public schools a,,, you and the others have made a statement. So what is the next step today and in 5 years - which will be tomorrow. Right now you have this curious little mind (not yours, your childs) who hears and sees a ton of things and has to sort them out. Luckily, she has you as a concerned parent trying to guide her along an ugly trail and to do her right. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] APHS
1. School of Political Science 2. Sports Academy/Sports Management/Sport Medicine/Television Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
Research has shown that when Black middle class parents pull their children out of the school system, it is doomed to failure.? Look at the Birmingham school system.? That is exactly what is going on there.? Black middle class parents need to be reassured that their children will receive the best possible education at the existing schools.? -Original Message- From: oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:11 am Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late . My child is presently in the third grade at Hope Academy Charter and I am researching Charter and private schools at this time because when she graduates the 8th grade (5 years from now) I will not be sending her to AP public schools a,,, you and the others have made a statement. So what is the next step today and in 5 years - which will be tomorrow. Right now you have this curious little mind (not yours, your childs) who hears and sees a ton of things and has to sort them out. Luckily, she has you as a concerned parent trying to guide her along an ugly trail and to do her right. Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
[AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Research has shown that when Black middle class parents pull their children out of the school system, it is doomed to failure.? Look at the Birmingham school system.? That is exactly what is going on there.? Black middle class parents need to be reassured that their children will receive the best possible education at the existing schools.? Good note. You can't blame it on the lack of white students. But today, we all want the best for our kids and we expect the school to provide the base 8 hours/day or longer. So we blame the school and the teachers. My daughter wants to continue coasting through the rest of her senior year and college. My son is determined in his frehsmen year to be a student and go on to Harvard Medical school (his idea..). Should I keep him in Ocean Twp...ship him off to private school...I'm going to sit tight for the next few years and hope the public school system works - and Discovery Channel, webmd and any little lab work I find him do him justice. Enjoy the holidays. Going web free for a while. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Hamilton Jury In and Deadlocked
Jury in Hamilton trial says it is deadlocked Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/21/07 BY CHARLES WEBSTER I NEWARK The jury in the corruption trial of former Asbury Park councilman John Hamilton has told the judge it is unable to reach a verdict. We have decided that will will not come to a unanimous decision on any of the counts, said a note delivered from the jury to U.S. District Court Judge Jose Linares. An earlier note to Linares asked what would be the case if the jury came to an agreement on some, but not all, of the charges. The second note, however, said they were deadlocked. The panel of six men and six women began deliberating shortly before 10 a.m. Tuesday and finished the day without a verdict. Hamilton has been charged with offering public, no-bid contracts to a demolition contractor a role played by FBI informant Robert Duke Steffer in return for having a driveway installed at his home. Steffer was working for the FBI as an undercover informant, and his conversations with Hamilton were recorded. Steffer played a pivotal role in the investigation, culminating in the arrests in 2005 of more than a dozen public officials and vendors in the Monmouth County political corruption probe dubbed Operation Bid Rig. Authorities had Steffer pose as a corrupt contractor and loan shark in dealings with public officials in Monmouth County and several towns between 2001 and 2004. Hamilton is accused of accepting a bribe and bartering to get a driveway installed at his home in 2001; in exchange, authorities say, Hamilton was to steer municipal contracts to Steffer's fictitious company. Hamilton pleaded not guilty to the charges Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
In a message dated 11/21/2007 11:31:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Research has shown that when Black middle class parents pull their children out of the school system, it is doomed to failure.? Look at the Birmingham school system.? That is exactly what is going on there.? Black middle class parents need to be reassured that their children will receive the best possible education at the existing schools.? Good note. You can't blame it on the lack of white students. But today, we all want the best for our kids and we expect the school to provide the base 8 hours/day or longer. So we blame the school and the teachers. I sympathize with parents wanting the best for their children, especially since the information out there can be confusing. I don't know the answers, but the following caught my attention a while back: _Ohio Goes After Charter Schools That Are Failing - New York Times_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/08/us/08charter.html?hp) Ohio became a test tube for the nation’s charter school movement during a decade...when a wide-open authorization system and plenty of government seed money led to the schools’ explosive proliferation. But their record has been spotty. This year, the state’s school report card gave more than half of Ohio’s 328 charter schools a D or an F. == _http://www.nypost.com/seven/11072007/news/regionalnews/charter_schools_going_ uncharted_872824.htm_ (http://www.nypost.com/seven/11072007/news/regionalnews/charter_schools_going_uncharted_872824.htm) _Click here: Charter Schools Lag, Study Finds - washingtonpost.com_ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/22/AR2006082201030.html) _Click here: charter schools - Google News_ (http://news.google.com/news?as_q=svnum=10as_scoring=rned=tusrec=0btnG=Google+Searchas_epq=charter+scho olsas_oq=as_eq=as_drrb=qas_qdr=as_mind=9as_minm=10as_maxd=8as_maxm=11 as_nsrc=as_nloc=as_occt=any) Seems that if firemer's research is right, (Research has shown that when Black middle class parents pull their children out of the school system, it is doomed to failure. ), then we have a lose/lose situation. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
In a message dated 11/21/2007 10:16:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: we care because we've seen blow by for 40 years Wow...In my experience, right on the money with 40 years, 1967. A college student who accepted a job teaching in Asbury Park was entitled to a 10% reduction on their federal college loans for each year they remained there up to 50%. Under the Higher Education Act of 1965, Asbury Park was, even then, considered a special inner-city district requiring special incentives to attract teachers. The starting salary in the late 60s, $5,200, was about 25% lower than surrounding districts. Additionally, I was hired under a separate federal grant which the BOE got at the last minute for additional English teachers to teach remedial reading to its high school students. The need was so great, and the regular English Department so overwhelmed by the non-college tract, that a separate department under a Mr. Cernanski was set up just for the remedial reading program. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
[AsburyPark] re: 10 hours on I-95
This would shorten your contemplation time while waiting on I-95. Here is a recording that would have been broadcast in the 50's and 60's if we came under a nuclear attack. It is a scripted warning from the old Conelrad system. Listen to it till the very end. By today's standards it wouldn't be politically correct. http://home.comcast.net/~george_allen/attack-warning-3.mp3 Mike Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Charter Schools
It's a national problem. This from Virginia, but could be anywhere. The primary public support for charter schools is in large measure based on a lack of confidence that public schools provide the best education possible for our children. With that in mind, it is easy to appreciate the allure of alternate forms of public education — whether private schools, vouchers or charter schools. However, regardless of the funding formula established for a charter school, it will have a disproportionate negative impact on the public education budget. Any lessening in the budget will have a serious impact on the delivery of educational services. Because the majority of charter schools do not serve students with significant mental, emotional or physical challenges, the percentage of students with those needs would increase in the public schools. Depending upon the demographics of the area, charter schools would selectively remove more academically oriented students and students with actively involved parents. In the event charter schools are widely established, the reality is that without additional funding the public school system will suffer. Charter schools will cost the taxpayer more money to maintain even the current standard of educational services in the public schools. _Charter schools impact funding -- dailypress.com_ (http://www.dailypress.com/news/opinion/dp-ed_wedtopletter_1121nov21,0,4419983.story) **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
[AsburyPark] New file uploaded to AsburyPark
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the AsburyPark group. File: /MISSING Maxie2.pdf Uploaded by : nferreira2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : Missing Maxie Flyer. Please Post You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/files/MISSING%20Maxie2.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, nferreira2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Charter Schools
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a national problem. This from Virginia, but could be anywhere. Some Charter Schools have failed in NJ as well. So have some students, parents and teachers. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Heaven Help you!!!
Asbury couple face animal cruelty charges Posted by the _Asbury Park Press_ (http://www.app.com/) on 11/21/07 BY _BILL BOWMAN_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU _Post Comment _ (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20071121Category=NEWSArtNo=71121039SectionCat=Template=printart #comments) ASBURY PARK — An Asbury Park couple faces multiple charges of animal cruelty after two dogs were found dead and two others emaciated in their Bangs Avenue home. Natisha Enalls, 32, and Joseph Dunbar, no age available, face four counts each of failing to provide food, water and sustenance to animals, said Victor Buddy'' Amato, the Monmouth County SPCA's chief enforcement officer. Amato said Enalls called his agency at about 4 p.m. on Nov. 15 to report that when she woke up at about 9:30 that morning, one of the dogs was dead and one was on his way out.'' We sent out animal control, and they found two dead dogs,'' Amato said. He said the SPCA's enforcement agent Scott Gussin was deployed to the house, where he found two more dogs, severly emaciated.'' Those dogs, which Amato said were all Terrier mixes, were removed from the home, Amato said. He said the dead dogs were a male and female, both four months old. The two surviving dogs are both females. One, named Princess, is about a year old, and the second, named Reme, is about four months old, he said. Enalls told authorities that someone dropped the dogs off about a month ago, and they were sick then, Amato said. Amato said Dunbar has taken a major share of the responsibility. He said formal charges will probably be filed in Asbury Park on Monday. The paperwork is being drawn up now,'' he said. The case is similar to one earlier this month when a Neptune woman was charged with animal cruelty after she allegedly allowed two Terrier mixes to starve to death. Two more starving dogs were rescued from the house but recovered and have been placed in foster homes, Amato said. _Post a Comment_ (http://forums.app.com/check_comment.php?articleId=71121039section=Newstitle= Asbury+couple+face+animal+cruelty+charges categoryId=NEWSpubDate=20071121relationValue=BBvalue1=NEWScacheTime=5disp lay=1hideTopic=0)_View All Comments_ (http://forums.app.com/viewtopic.php?t=22917) A HUMAN WITH A BRAIN AND FULLY FUNCTION WITH FAMILY FEELINGS AND SENSE SHOULD NOT SUFFER FOR THE FAIT OF AN ANIMAL ?? THEY WONT KILL DEERS ? SO WE HAVE TO HIT THEM ON THE HWY AND RISK DEATH EVEN VIC , IT WAS DISGUSTING I DONT DENY THAT , BUT A HUMANS LIFE SHOULD NOT END OVER A DOGS LIFE ??? YES HE SHOULD BE FINED AND IN TROUBLE BUT JAIL FOR 10YRS , DO U TINK THE DOG CARES ? DO U THINK THEY EVEN KNOW WHATS GOING ON THEY ARE DOGS PEOPLE IN PHILIPINES THEY ARE BEATEN WITH A BAT AND BROUGHT HOME FOR DINNER HUMANS SHOIULD NOT SUFFER CAUSE OF ANIMALS I SHOULD NOT STEP ON GEESE POOP EVERY DAY , THEY ARE IN MY WAY THEY SHOULD BE KILLED IS IT ANY WORSE TO KILL A CHICKEN CAUSE IM HUNGRY ?? ANIMALS SHOULD **NOT** BE TORTURED HOWEVER IF THEY ARE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT LOOSE THERE LIVES OVER IT , PUNISH THEM WITH FINES PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE ANIMLAS ARE ANIMLASL Posted by: PAYPAL on Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:32 pm I think they should be locked in a cage and starved to death. Just like they starved helpless animals. I am prepared to help anyway that i can! Posted by: SRH30 on Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:45 pm _Post a Comment_ (http://forums.app.com/check_comment.php?articleId=71121039section=Newstitle= Asbury+couple+face+animal+cruelty+charges categoryId=NEWSpubDate=20071121relationValue=BBvalue1=NEWScacheTime=5disp lay=1hideTopic=0)_View All Comments_ (http://forums.app.com/viewtopic.php?t=22917) Copyright © 2007 Asbury Park Press. All rights reserved. Users of this site agree to the _Terms of Service_ (http://www.app.com/terms/) and _Privacy Policy/Your California Privacy Rights_ (http://www.app.com/privacy/) (Terms updated March 2007) Site design by _Asbury Park Press_ (http://www.app.com/) / _Contact us_ (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=CONTACTUS) **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
[AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
Mario and Oakdorf, I agree wholeheartedly, having gone to all Black, albeit, private school. I don't know what the core curriculum is, in the AP school system, or how it's administered. I do know that an awful lot of money is sent into the district, because of the Abbott decision, but it appears, to be going down the drain, instead of into the heads, of our most precious resource; the children! It's obscene the dollar amount being spent and for what? I don't see any physical improvements to the schools facades, to blame it on maintenance. Is it the teachers, the methods, what? It's irksome to not know! Just a guess, but my fear is that a lot of blame goes to the teachers! I've known teachers, with one book and xerox copies, teach and the kids excel! Does this mean the kids are paying attention? I also know that most schools have a breakfast program, similar to the one started in the 60's, by the Black Panthers, emphasizing that if kids, are prepared physically, they will perform better, mentally! I'll bet you, I can walk into a Black Classroom, without any books and with positive reinforcement, the kids, will remember who I am! After a week of this, I'll bet that in 6 weeks, the same kids, will remember me, for the rest of their life! I have a message and the message is, you have to decide who you want to be, white, pink or blue collar, in life. I know it isn't that simple, but if kids go to school knowing that if someone gives a damn, you'll see it, hear about it and know! Just look at AP Pop Warner, no, look at AP varsity, because the same kids were coached by the same Pop Warner Coaches. Kids perform, when taught properly. Kids do better, when they know someone, gives a damn! When you tell kids, do good in school and you can get away from a bad environment, some, not all, will take you up on it. Kids, need life coaches and if you tell a kid how great they are every day, pretty soon, that's how they become! I know, I did it, for 12 years. Not one kid dropped out of school and they ALL graduated, on time! They became teachers, doctors, lawyers, advertising executives, etc. I know; I've attended many a wedding for one of the girls, I coached and told, that no one, was better/greater/smarter/talented/beautiful/, than THEY were! People thought I owned stock in Dunkin Donuts, Kentucky Fried, Tropicana Orange and Hawaiian Punch, for my famous tail-gate parties, after my girls performed! I used positive reinforcement, a smile and lots of hugs! When kids are taught music and dance in school, it prepares them to socialize, in proper company, in a proper setting. I learned the box step and square-dancing, sing a longs, etc. and in health class, we were taught why you wash your hands before and after meals, the rest room protocols, which is why to this day, I carry a pocket package of kleenex! Little things, you never forget, in an uncivilized world! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/20/2007 7:09:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: how about analyzing the population shift in general over that period. ... AP has had the OPPORTUNITY with over 1 billion in state aid to build a superior program but failed for one reason or the other. Skip the race issue. No reason a single race school can't excel. You don't need white kids to make the rest smarter. Good points. ll kids have the SAME opportunity for a HIGHER level of education/programs offered i the speciality schools which, as you pointed out, IS NOT open to all residents. You have to apply and hope your kid didn't f-up along the way. A slippery slope with that one - Doesn't M.A.S.T. also have a application procedure? Entry tests? Otherwise how do you choose? Make all the schools strict and fund more programs and enforce strict policies as to learning and discipline instead of letting kids skate along? Parent responsibility is somewhere in there I hope The issue has nothing to do with race. I It shouldn't. Unfortunately, it does. But I think our country, as a whole, has come a long way. Still a way to go. Happy Thanksgiving **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Project...
Probably for Arcman. Creating a project in Google Sketchup, where you can model a city. To do so, photos have to be taken and uploaded and located on Goog earth. The idea is see if outsiders take a look at the existing models (of current buildings) and take a shot at creating.adding models under a set of criteria. Examples may be Wesley Gorve completion, Redev infill, and of course, everything west of main street, including Main st. New Public Housing, schools. Once I finish figuring out to load it all up, I;ll let u know. Something to do in the airport while I ignore everyone. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario and Oakdorf, I agree wholeheartedly, having gone to all Black, albeit, private school. Well I guess that makes it official. I can't seem to make my point sink in no matter how many times I say it. I've never argued Black kids can't learn without white kids. What I have argued is that when a school is naturlly diverse, it's wrong to have government step in and segregate it by race. If its naturally segregated, so be it. But to have the government impose racial segregation was supposedly outlawed with Brown. Unless of course you think government imposed racial sergregation has no bad effect. In that case, feel free to let the government segregate all the schools by race. In fact, lets have someone out there who thinks it is no big deal that Asbury kids have been segregated by race from government, tell me this: Why don't we go ahead and segregate public bathrooms again? I'm serious. I want one of YOU to tell me what would be wrong with that. As long as both bathrooms are available and clean, where is the harm? In fact, lines would be shorter, so that would be good. So I challange one of you to describe for me why segregating public bathrooms is bad. I'm sure at some point as you describe it, the light will go off as to why it was wrong to segregate APHS. HOWEVER - if you don't give a damn about segregated Black kids, then neither do I. Hell they're YOUR kids, not mine. I'm past it. My kids won't be hurt by what you do to the kids there in Asbury. And change the name of Thurgood Marshall school. It's a disgrace to the man to have segregationists flying his flag. And stop calling yourselves liberals. True liberals wouldn't stand for a segregated school. You guys to stand for it. So keep it. I don't care anymore. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Maxie Update
Maxie Update: We had another Maxie sighting today, in the same neighborhood. A 15 year old boy called us around 1 p.m. and said he saw a dog that looked like Maxie being taken into a house at 1617 Heck St. He seemed credible and described the behavior of the dog, which matched Maxie's -- she's on the hyper/jumpy side :) We immediately drove to the house and met with the boy in person and he confirmed he saw a dog that looks like Maxie being taken into that house. Then we actually saw the owner of the house and her daughter outside and asked her about the dog and she said she had not seen any stray dogs. She did not mention being a dog owner. We then went to the Neptune Police Department to see if they could do anything, but the officer behind the desk was not helpful in the least. While we are grateful that Maxie may be warm and dry and being fed, we want her home! We don't want to falsely accuse anyone, but need to follow up on this lead. We have been by the house off and on all day and have posted flyers on poles surrounding the house. The house is on the corner of Heck and Myrtle and has a chain link fence around it, giving a good view into both front and back yards. We plan on continuing to drive by the house and post more flyers around it tomorrow and Friday. We might do a stake out -- the dog has to pee! If anybody can help us by driving by this house at any point in the next couple of days, we would be so grateful. Again we don't know for sure if this is her, or if there is a dog in that house at all, as we haven't seen her first hand. We continue to be amazed at the outpouring of kindness you have all shared with us and appreciate being in your thoughts and prayers. Thank you! AnthonyG 600 8th Ave. AnthonyN and Rick 510 First Ave
[AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
-Tommy, We agreed, it comes to choice. If ALL residents had the means to choose, it seems a majority might not choose AP, just like the old Irish Catholic from Belmar or Avon sent their cute girls who worked at Kohr's or Critierion years ago to St. Rose or to RBC. I don't like sending my kids to Ocean Twp. Why? I just don't think the quality is there. The control isn't there. And honestly, I'm a lazy parent other then to make sure they get out the door in the morning and respect the system and do THEIR best - not mine. I don't listen to their bs when they fail an open note, open notebook test. Why? Because I almost failed one on college that I even cheated on. Imagine my silence when one admin told you can send them to privte school of your choice...but this is a FREE education... Free. Imagine my face. I'm surprised I'm still alive. CBA is a choice for my son Unfortunately, for him he wouldn't come home with girls signing their names on his arm every day if he went there...and I would have to work even more to cover it. So I know dcotors and losers from both cba and Ot. I;ll let u know in 10-12 years. I'll convince him to open an office in AP Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: [AsburyParkGLH] Maxie Update
We forgot to mention that the house is on Heck in Neptune, right past the Asbury border, sorry to keep flooding you with emails, we just want her found!! We hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving!! AnthonyG 600 8th Ave AnthonyN Rick 510 First Ave -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maxie Update: We had another Maxie sighting today, in the same neighborhood. A 15 year old boy called us around 1 p.m. and said he saw a dog that looked like Maxie being taken into a house at 1617 Heck St. He seemed credible and described the behavior of the dog, which matched Maxie's -- she's on the hyper/jumpy side :) We immediately drove to the house and met with the boy in person and he confirmed he saw a dog that looks like Maxie being taken into that house. Then we actually saw the owner of the house and her daughter outside and asked her about the dog and she said she had not seen any stray dogs. She did not mention being a dog owner. We then went to the Neptune Police Department to see if they could do anything, but the officer behind the desk was not helpful in the least. While we are grateful that Maxie may be warm and dry and being fed, we want her home! We don't want to falsely accuse anyone, but need to follow up on this lead. We have been by the house off and on all day and have posted flyers on poles surrounding the house. The house is on the corner of Heck and Myrtle and has a chain link fence around it, giving a good view into both front and back yards. We plan on continuing to drive by the house and post more flyers around it tomorrow and Friday. We might do a stake out -- the dog has to pee! If anybody can help us by driving by this house at any point in the next couple of days, we would be so grateful. Again we don't know for sure if this is her, or if there is a dog in that house at all, as we haven't seen her first hand. We continue to be amazed at the outpouring of kindness you have all shared with us and appreciate being in your thoughts and prayers. Thank you! AnthonyG 600 8th Ave. AnthonyN and Rick 510 First Ave
[AsburyPark] Re: [AsburyParkGLH] Maxie Update
The Google Map of Maxie sightings has been updated... http://xrl.us/bbeei --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We forgot to mention that the house is on Heck in Neptune, right past the Asbury border, sorry to keep flooding you with emails, we just want her found!! We hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving!! AnthonyG 600 8th Ave AnthonyN Rick 510 First Ave -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maxie Update: We had another Maxie sighting today, in the same neighborhood. A 15 year old boy called us around 1 p.m. and said he saw a dog that looked like Maxie being taken into a house at 1617 Heck St. He seemed credible and described the behavior of the dog, which matched Maxie's -- she's on the hyper/jumpy side :) We immediately drove to the house and met with the boy in person and he confirmed he saw a dog that looks like Maxie being taken into that house. Then we actually saw the owner of the house and her daughter outside and asked her about the dog and she said she had not seen any stray dogs. She did not mention being a dog owner. We then went to the Neptune Police Department to see if they could do anything, but the officer behind the desk was not helpful in the least. While we are grateful that Maxie may be warm and dry and being fed, we want her home! We don't want to falsely accuse anyone, but need to follow up on this lead. We have been by the house off and on all day and have posted flyers on poles surrounding the house. The house is on the corner of Heck and Myrtle and has a chain link fence around it, giving a good view into both front and back yards. We plan on continuing to drive by the house and post more flyers around it tomorrow and Friday. We might do a stake out -- the dog has to pee! If anybody can help us by driving by this house at any point in the next couple of days, we would be so grateful. Again we don't know for sure if this is her, or if there is a dog in that house at all, as we haven't seen her first hand. We continue to be amazed at the outpouring of kindness you have all shared with us and appreciate being in your thoughts and prayers. Thank you! AnthonyG 600 8th Ave. AnthonyN and Rick 510 First Ave Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: [AsburyParkGLH] Maxie Update
That would be Heck AVENUE. Heck Street is in Asbury Park. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We forgot to mention that the house is on Heck in Neptune, right past the Asbury border, sorry to keep flooding you with emails, we just want her found!! We hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving!! AnthonyG 600 8th Ave AnthonyN Rick 510 First Ave -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maxie Update: We had another Maxie sighting today, in the same neighborhood. A 15 year old boy called us around 1 p.m. and said he saw a dog that looked like Maxie being taken into a house at 1617 Heck St. He seemed credible and described the behavior of the dog, which matched Maxie's -- she's on the hyper/jumpy side :) We immediately drove to the house and met with the boy in person and he confirmed he saw a dog that looks like Maxie being taken into that house. Then we actually saw the owner of the house and her daughter outside and asked her about the dog and she said she had not seen any stray dogs. She did not mention being a dog owner. We then went to the Neptune Police Department to see if they could do anything, but the officer behind the desk was not helpful in the least. While we are grateful that Maxie may be warm and dry and being fed, we want her home! We don't want to falsely accuse anyone, but need to follow up on this lead. We have been by the house off and on all day and have posted flyers on poles surrounding the house. The house is on the corner of Heck and Myrtle and has a chain link fence around it, giving a good view into both front and back yards. We plan on continuing to drive by the house and post more flyers around it tomorrow and Friday. We might do a stake out -- the dog has to pee! If anybody can help us by driving by this house at any point in the next couple of days, we would be so grateful. Again we don't know for sure if this is her, or if there is a dog in that house at all, as we haven't seen her first hand. We continue to be amazed at the outpouring of kindness you have all shared with us and appreciate being in your thoughts and prayers. Thank you! AnthonyG 600 8th Ave. AnthonyN and Rick 510 First Ave Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] FYI - Gutters
Had some work done on my house converting the yankee gutters to conventional gutters, rebuilding the soffits, etc. Work done by Bobby Greenhalgh. Great work. Great guy. However, I want to warn you about Monmouth Gutters who were contracted to do the conventional gutters. I pull up today and see them outside working on the house. I ask if it will be completed today. Very unfriendly he says no, two days. I ask nicely, weren't you supposed to start yesterday? It f#ckin rained all day was the answer I got. Then I ask if they could keep the front gate closed so the dog would not run out. Give me a f#ckin break, keep the dog in the house is the answer. You want me to keep opening and closin the gate he adds, you're asking a lot. I then immediately made up my mind to send them home even though they had cut the materials already, so I ask when you go to the bathroom do you leave your zipper open because you may have to go again later? Pick up your stuff and leave. His parting reply - I knew you were a dick when I first saw you. Bobby Greenhalgh didn't pay the guy and apologized which he did not have to do. Bobby does great work and lives in AP. Momouth Gutters - use at your own risk. Happy Turkey Day to All. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
