Also a very very good post.
Tom I think that if you ever wanted to do the one thing in your life
that could truly help Asbury Park, this might be the answer. I think
many would support you in this endeavor. And kinda knowing you, you
would not care what the opposition thought. How much money would
something like this cost to have a case like this fought and won? I
know this would be just an estimate.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oak it looks like we ended up agreeing in the end.
>
> I have no problm with choices people make. Go to private school,
> move to a good public district, etc. I support all of it. I do
have
> a problem with government screwing things up by injecting
themselves
> into it, which is what wrecked APHS - not parental choices.
>
> When buying a house, I absolutely avoided Asbury Park and the
> sending district because the High School is now segregated. I
know
> that many, many other people did the same.
>
> That wasn't the case before the RBR ruling. I went to APHS with
the
> sons of doctors, lawyers and millinaire businessmen. Yes, having
> that demographic was helpful to the poorer kids. That's gone
thanks
> to the ruling.
>
> Look at real estate listings. Many of them list private schools
on
> the listing so as not to list APHS. I laugh and cry everytime I
see
> it.
>
> Since Avon no longer goes to APHS, their real estate has
> skyrocketed, now topping $1 Million on the MEDIAN house sale, and
> holding steady in this downturn.
>
> Everything changed when the Commissioner ruled that RBR having a
> better music program than Asbury Park is more important than
whether
> a black kid goes to a segregated school. Read the decision that
> Mario linked. That was the ruling. It's the most bigoted, racist
> piece of government work I've seen in my lifetime, and it is
> shamelessly ignored.
>
> It's ignored because those with the political power in the area
> benefit from the ruling (like Avon); those without the power
suffer
> from it (Asbury).
>
> Just imagine the classic busing issue: If a primarily white
school
> in the area was suddenly going to be filled with poor black kids
> from Asbury, people would go berserk. There would be all sorts of
> lawsuits to stop it, with claims of government interference,
social
> engineering, and claims that the school's natural demographic
should
> be preserved.
>
> That ruling by the Commissioner is exactly the same thing with the
> colors reversed. The NATURAL DEMOGRAPHIC of APHS was racially and
> economically diversified, just as Ocean Township is now. The
ruling
> destroyed that by busing the white kids past Asbury Park to
another
> public school in Little Silver.
>
> Who is going to file the the Federal Civil Rights lawsuit claiming
> de facto segregation (can anyone claim that wasn't the result of
the
> ruling with a straight face)? Are the white parents who are
> avoiding APHS going to do it? No. The poor black parents? I
don't
> think so. AP Board of Ed? No, too busy gossiping and in fighting
> to tackle something so serious and important.
>
> If APHS was naturally segregated by race, you wouldn't hear a peep
> out of me. Since it is racially segregateed by the government
with
> busing to another public school, I'm confident my objection is on
> the moral high ground, even if I stand alone.
>
> Standing alone though, I'm starting to feel like I don't care
> anymore either.
>
> The state can keep the school segregated, Asbury Park Board of Ed
> (Bored of Ed?) can keep taking the Abbott "hush money" and not
> challenge the segregation ruling, and none of it is going to hurt
me.
>
> So why should I care?
>
>
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <oakdorf@> wrote:
> >
> > TD,
> >
> > You and I can both stop, take residence in AP, and stick our kids
> > there. but we haven't.
> >
> > I'd take a gamble on those beers that Deal, Allenhurst, Belmar
have
> > LESS HS age kids eligible to go to AP. Then you have determine
why
> > those parents CHOOSE to send their kids to a private school,
> parochial
> > school or to a county speciality school. IT's choice. You and I
> have
> > made it as well, by choosing to live in towns other then AP with
a
> > schools that are well diversified in race and incomes - that
> being
> > Howell and OT. OT and Howell are not the same as in 1996 nor in
are
> > they in our era of the late 70's either. In '75 my class (8th
> grade)
> > had 3 african american students - and I can name them. In '79 I
> could
> > still name a few more african american students. And I;m saying
I
> can
> > name them as a good thing casue we were all friends. I can say
> today
> > the make-up of the the student body, at least in OT, is about as
> > diversified as it can be on all levels - race, incomes, family
> status etc.
> >
> > As such, in my view, the teaching methods have changed
> dramatically.
> >
> > I wish I could convince my son to go to CBA, and I'd be willing
to
> > pay. It's school. Not a playground. They'll kick your ass out as
> fast
> > as they cashed your check.
> >
> > As for qualifying to go to a speciality school, you shouldnt
have
> to.
> >
>
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