[AsburyPark] Re: This is what a tourist would want ....
Lockers would be great for day trippers to use who come in by train. I think it would also help to increase the numbers of tourists per day. No need for parking spaces for these folks either. I really think when Asbury Park starts to build more hotels in the future that they ought to promote coming in by train and leaving your car at home. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
I remember someone suggested it be named The Titania. I believe this was the title created and given by James A. Bradley himself for the winner of the annual pageant held at one time in Asbury Park. Princess of Titania was the winners title. I think The Titania was a great idea in that it had a historical connection to the city and its founder. As a side note I didn't like the MM websites use of Bradley in that way either. In addition, the fuse noise in the beginning almost gave me a heart attack. Mr. Geibel said the project would be given a new name its third. A contest among Asbury Park schoolchildren produced the name Esperanza. It was a great name, Mr. Geibel said, but this is going to be a different building, a building that will fit the market, and the times. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] They Screwed Up Regularly
Because Weldon, Sanders, Bruno, Mallina, and Loffredo did a very poor job in almost all regards concerning the redevelopment of Asbury Park. The creation of the redevelopment plan and the execution of it. sandpiper15 wrote: I haven't read the plan in detail, but I gather from previous posts on this board that the Master Developer has, on several occasions, failed to meet their end of the contract (deadlines, etc). In light of that, I can only wonder why the city would feel compelled to honor the original agreement without demanding amendments to adress the very issues you raise here. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The Beach Camera is Working at the City Website
I found this out from Gilmours' newsletter. By the way, I highly recommend signing up to receive this weekly newsletter about the going ons of Asbury Park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Beach Camera is Working at the City Website
Funny justifiedright wrote: I remember the Save Tillie sillies had a Tillie Cam guarding that giant weirdo, which is why I was never able to use my paint scraper to end the controversy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Beach Camera is Working at the City Website
Also funny that Werner, Oak and Jack are MAC users. I know there are arguments back and forth about MAC, but I thought it funny the three of you are MAC users. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Interfaith Neighbors
Not a bad idea, I do like it. However, I know some people feel these buildings (DPW, Police, City Hall and Fire and EMT Services) should be relocated off Main in order to open up the land to redevelopment. I personally like government institutions such as these on Main Streets. DPW is another matter though. -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This integrates all city operations in a homogeneous strip that makes sense from South to North - DPW, Police, Court, Transportation, City Hall, Post Office. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Pavilion Renovations -- Trading Lavender for Life's Necessities
Plain and simple, one pavilion in between the casino and convention hall should have all the public restrooms, lockers, showers, etc. Another pavilion north of convention hall should have the same. Deal or no deal. In addition, the green acres space is to be open. By law and by Bradley's covenant. The idea was to keep these areas open as to allow for the ocean air to funnel up to Main and beyond. Flared streets at the Ocean Avenue, remember. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Green Acres = waste of valuable space. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia
Something like Woods Drive? dfsavgny.. wrote: Trivia. What was the original name of Deal Lake Drive? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia
Yeah Tom, come on, green acres is the place to be, temporary kiosks they are not for me.. ...Tommie we love you but give us that ocean breeze. wernerapnj@ wrote: Avenue it is - congratulations Tommie - Now if you could only grasp the signiifcance and value of open space (Green Acres) in a completely developed City Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia
For some reason, I think I remember Packard as the maiden name of Bradley's wife. -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo apoojo@ wrote: wont even ask you 2 looking at maps the name of Park ave. before it was changed? Present day Park Ave was originally Grand Avenue. It ran from Oak Bluff Ave and Corlies (now 8th Ave) south to Sunset Ave. The southerly part of Grand Ave from 5th Ave south is in the same place it is now. The northerly part of present day Grand Ave from Sunset to oak Bluff Ave (Deal Lake Drive) was named Packard St. I guess sometime after (when they built the Grand Ave Bridge) they switched the streets so Grand runs as it does now and renamed it to Park and retired the Packard name. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia
Well, I eat right, exercise, and take one a day. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: For some reason, I think I remember Packard as the maiden name of Bradley's wife. You look great for your age. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] E-Bay
Hey Dan, there are some late 1800's early 1900's pictures of Asbury Park on e-bay I saw today. The ones of the boardwalk are terrific. Very clear and versions I have never seen before. And I have seen countless pictures. Is there anyway you can upload some of these for us? By the way, the picture of the Lake House you uploaded was great. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Super Tuesday
Werner It's going to be tough for them to keep politics off the site. I think you should probably come back sometime Friday. Rook Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals
Two stories should be the max on the pavillions. If we want to go this extensive, why not rebuild the ocean side of the casino and put in all these features. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Think bigger... Not just a gym. Picture a four story natatorium that looks like the old one. On the ground floor, a large, heated indoor pool surrounded by lounge chairs. Large windows facing the ocean that have screens for summer and hurricane coverings for storms. Also locker rooms, saunas, whirlpools on first floor. And indoor/outdoor snack bar/juice bar with tables and chairs. On the third and fourth floors picture balconies that go around the entire building/pool. The cardio equipment could be on one floor facing out. The weights and such could be on the other floor. Then on the roof, there could be a roof deck for Yoga. And also, somewhere inside a room for indoor classes. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Coaster Article - Crime Rate Decreassed in 2007 in Asbury Park
Todays Coaster article states that the crime rate has decreased in Asbury Park from 2006. This is good news and I think the police department is finally moving in the right direction. What I found shocking was that in 2006 only 30 people were arrested for selling heroine, cocaine, and pot combined. I realize the number of arrests are up for these three catergories in 2007, but what were the police doing in 2006 and prior years? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Boardwalk Proposals
I hope everyone sees the no diving in sign. Sounds like MM has. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone else think the part about a beach club with an itty bitty pool is strange? 18 inches? Why can't they make a regular pool and then a small kiddie pool? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: First annual carpet bagger
Good idea. Instead of a red carpet outside the event, everyone could carry a piece of their most outlandish carpet and lay it down as they arrive. I can get a hold of a nice burnt orange and brown shag. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there should be an award ceremony for all the carpetbaggers. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Phillips Seafood Buffet
While the pros and cons of a good retail or food chain can be argued, I think back to when the public, Duany, Asbury Partners, Clark Hintz, etc., had all those public meetings on what the redevolpment should look like. I think the vast majority didn't want chains, the reason, we should make Asbury Park unique. I think more than three of one place should make it officially a chain. The one caveat could be if the place chains out after it is in Asbury Park, then it is grandfathered in. This would make a lot of good start ups start here. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Went to Phillips Seafood Buffet in Washington DC over the weekend for the second time. I forgot about my diet. Any chance we could get the restaurant on the boardwalk http://www.phillipsseafood.com __ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $
I wonder if the kids are aware of how much a year is spent on each of them? It would be an interesting survey a teacher could conduct with his or her class. Maybe the school district should spend a day showing them how much that money would buy in the real word, compare it to other schools, the median household income in Asbury Park vs other towns, etc. Why don't we ask them to compete in grades and rank with the other schools? Like you are all on the same team against Red Bank. -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It makes me angry. All that money they are spending, not to mention my property taxes are $7200 for a tiny house, and the scores are horrible... And if I have kids in the relatively near future, I cannot send them to school here. So I would either pay super high property taxes plus private school tuition or move. Jees, with the money they are spending, they could almost hire a teacher for every 2 kids! New Jersey schools Asbury Park schools Asbury Park School District HSPA Results Scale: % at or above proficient Grade 11 Language Arts Literacy 40% (2006) 33% (2005) 44% (2004) 33% (2003) The state average for Language Arts Literacy was 84% in 2006. Math 25% (2006) 23% (2005) 26% (2004) 13% (2003) The state average for Math was 76% in 2006. Source: NJ Dept. of Education, 2005-2006 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, FleurDeLis sharon_b283@ wrote: The amount they're spending is sinful, because it isn't being funneled down to the kids! Does the Administrators present the expenses at Board Meetings? Who decides how tax dollars are being spent and for what? If the test scores aren't measuring up, who is called on the carpet, for doing a lousy job? Does AP District have an oversight, person? The teacher who isn't teaching, should be canned! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Tommy is closer to the number then I was I think AP is somewhere around $57m in state aid - down from around $80m in state aid. Add to that what the taxpayers pay in school taxes and you have a nice budget. heavy in admin, legal costs. One of the highest per student costs in the nation. Only an avg of $11 per month increase. June 10, 2007 EDUCATION Abbott School Districts Among the Top Spenders By FORD FESSENDEN NEW JERSEY'S Abbott districts, the urban school systems that sued the state 26 years ago to gain equal footing with affluent districts, are now among the highest-spending school districts in the country, according to newly released data from the United States Census Bureau. The districts spent more money per student than most rich districts in New Jersey in 2004-5, the census data show. Among the 30 kindergarten-to-12th-grade districts of 500 or more students that spent the most, 22 were Abbotts, including the top three Asbury Park, Hoboken and Newark. There are 31 Abbott districts. Asbury Park spent $23,572 per student, according to the census, while the highest- ranking non-Abbott district, Wildwood City, spent $19,912. The state average was $13,613, and the national average was $8,315. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Election Methods
Thank you Mario. I have one more favor to ask. In the introduction of the document, it mentions a companion booklet, City Council Election Methods. That's the one that ranks the nineteen election types around the world. Could you provide a link? For those that look at the second link, look at the election method CHA. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/17/2008 3:53:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Again, could someone go to The Center for Democracy and Voting website and provide an easy link to City Council Election Methods? It's very informative about all the election methods out there throughout the world (nineteen evaluated) and what is deemed best. So far I like the one called CHA. _http://www.fairvote.org/media/documents/Mayor_Manual.pdf_ (http://www.fairvote.org/media/documents/Mayor_Manual.pdf) (http://www.fairvote.org/media/documents/Mayor_Manual.pdf) **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp0030002489 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Since You Brought It Up Gary
Again, could someone go to The Center for Democracy and Voting website and provide an easy link to City Council Election Methods? It's very informative about all the election methods out there throughout the world(nineteen evaluated) and what is deemed best. So far I like the one called CHA. -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an extension of the conversation of whether AP should have partisan elections, so it's AP related and an apporoved topic for discussion. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!
Bizzarro world. The nice AsburySteve probably wonders why people are sometimes mean to him. Maybe we need to have an AsburySteve off. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there are two AsburySteves. AsburySteve2001 who used to post here back in 2006 is the guy who's always comments at the Press's site. The other guy whom I have met, seems relatively apolitical. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!
No, if anything, parties are loosing power. The rise of the independent candidates will continue to grow. I'd say in about twenty years the Republican and Democratic parties will be gone. I think Asbury Park is actually ahead of the rest in this area, keep it non-partisan. There is a city who had the same problem with too many candidates and developed a way to elect the most preferred top five candidates out of a field of many running. It might have been San Francisco. I'll try and find something on it later. And lastly, about weeding out nuts. Your point is not without debate. I think we'd all agree many nuts get elected in the two party system currently in place. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you folks think of having AP go to a party-system of election, rather than non-partisan. There would be primaries to weed out the nuts. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Googled San Francisco Election Method
I was right, it was San Francisco that has the top rated way to hold a mayoral election. The second found item in the search explains the method in a PDF file, It's a booklet published by The Center for Voting and Democracy entitled Mayoral Election Methods . Can someone link it to our site so we and the lurkers could view it more easily? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The APP story about MM
I'm one of the biggest critics of the council, but one area of credit I give them is that they show up for a lot of extra events. Many during work hours. This is one area where I truly repect their dedication(their time). Remember they have jobs and personal lives too. Maybe a day time press conference was difficult for them to attend. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: Yes, the lack of any Council representation is pretty disapointing and boarderline shocking. This is the biggest public announcement since the original agreement five years ago, and maybe bigger. The fact that they weren't there has to make you wonder whether we have the right people on the Council... The real questions is why? Is it because MM is aggressive and has a timetable they want to keep. Lots of work planned for summer 2008. More for summer 2009. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: smart growth...
Was this site (Wesley Grove) approved by the Architectural Review Committeee? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what was built at wesley I don't recall looking like wha Clark Caton Hint envisioned nor for that matter Minno http://www.clarkecatonhintz.com/project_128/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MM
A nice plaza by the lake. Wesley Plaza --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rethink (Im sure they have) that whole project - and look at some of the ORIGINAL Concepts shown for those blocks - nice architecture, brick work etc. This will also open the door for them (MM) to build out a great link from the BW to Cookman and which will lead into main st and springwood.. USe Wesley lake as the destination center - into cookman. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Post Dated
Is it just my computer or do the messages we post not have the correct time and/or date at times? In addition, some posts get side tracked under the next topic catergory. Are people intentionally doing this or do we need them to stop doing something to prevent the occurence? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: On-topic posts vs off-topic posts
The wizard is still alive. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Pete Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, why don't we call a halt to the off-topic posts and bring on some on-topic posts? If anyone needs a refresher on what this group is meant to be aimed at, check out Andrew's original mission statement (which is still the mission statement of this group) at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.9/1198 - Release Date: 12/26/2007 5:26 PM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: My hope for 2008
If I remember correctly, the part in Ocean Avenue is not the main plant and can be flipped to the other side. It would reopen Ocean Avenue. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The worst decision ever made I think was the decision to put the sewer plant smack on top of Ocean Ave. Who was mayor then, or who was responsible for that literally crappy decision? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Senior Center at Atkins and Springwood
I just read at Restoreradio.com that this is the new location the city has decided to put the senior center. I still think a location closer to the beach and downtown is much better. I have suggested before that the property directly west of the library is ideal, a senior/community center. The seniors could then go to the library, stroll in the park, get something to eat on Cookman or wander down to the boardwalk. It's a great centralized location to maximize exercizing the brain and the body. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Mallina's December 20th Coaster Article Posted at asburypark.net
There is a lot to comment on, but just like her other articles, she tends to leave out a great deal when it suits her. I like how the piece is ment to jab at Keady for the most part, but she easily forgets to mention the other unnamed council member(Loffredo)she disagrees with. Also, she goes on to criticize some of Keady's campaign contributors because they are the old Asbury Park power brokers according to her, yet she avoids the fact that ten of thousands of dollars to the Sanders, Bruno, Loffredo and Johnson ticket came from New York. Those donations more reflect outside influences. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Circuit lives...almost - Metro...
Todays version of Springsteins song My Home Town? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like my son asked are they now jsut going to leave the rest of this looking like shit? Told him to look around and remember what cookman was like just a couple years ago. He said yea but... told him to shut-up and watch. There's good people in town who are making a difference. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Sweatshops
Mr. Keady I think your on Mr. Vail(ed)'s hailing frequency. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The retailers are correct. The Asian ecomies are the fastest growing in the world because of America's appetite for inexpensive Asian made products. True slave labor exists in countries like Burma and North Korea, not in free Asia. This is where the gutsy human rights activists focus their energies. The psuedo activisists that go around pointing fingers at succesful American Companies often have an agenda that has little to do with improving the lives of factory workers. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stumbling toward Communisn, High Land Prices andS Segregation
And biodiversity, who needs it. Let's populate the earth with more and more humans and build over every last piece of the globe. And on the way, lets kill each other over it. Because we can, it is our God given right. In the United States there are about 3000 Rite Aids, that look exactly the same. Is that what we need? It is just an unnessary repeat at this point. Lastly, conservatives should be conservationists. Remember that blow hard Teddy Roosevelt. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right. Who wants to preserve open space. Trees suck. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: House full of stolen bikes
I saw a story on TV about five years ago, some bikes are stolen, put on boats and shipped to island countries to sell to locals who can't afford cars. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lindagriggsartist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It took me till the next morning to realize what I'd seen. I always wondered why you never saw your stolen bike locked up somewhere else in your town. They were taking them far, far away for resale, I guess. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A big fan of Pivinski here!
Very Funny. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If he doesn't like it, as long as he plagiarizes my writing, as we used to say in the old days, he can kiss my ass in Steinbach's window for all the world to see. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: $2,200 in jewelry stolen from Asbury Park shop
Good luck trying to pawn this stuff. What a bunch of morons. the duo fled the store with three gold chains and a cross Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: That is why I never fight with Dan. Why, so I won't put you on the couch or that we won't have to make up? I love sleeping on couches. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: to the point
I always said before the movie Dogma came out, that God plays in Asbury Park. I was blown away, when in the movie, they said he played Skee Ball on the boardwalk. The begining of the end as portrayed in the movie starts in Asbury Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right about that. Given all the inner city problems AP had (maybe worse then today..?) AP has what no other oceanfront resort has - magic. Either the place is haunted or magical. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown
Asbury Park use to have a circuit and does have Asbury Partners. Are we the sowers? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Eighth Circle of Hell (Bolgia 9) is reserved for Sowers of Discord (28) The poets come to the edge of the ninth ditch, and look down at a parade of hideously mutilated souls. These are the SOWERS OF DISCORD, and just as their sin was to rend asunder what God had meant to be united, so are they hacked and torn through all eternity by a great demon with a bloody sword. After each mutilation the souls are compelled to drag their broken bodies around the pit and to return to the demon, for in the course of the circuit their wounds heal in time to be inflicted anew. - Dante Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article on Esperanza Shutdown
That is why I never fight with Dan. - In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talk like that builds up defenses. One of the worst things in fighting with a spouse or partner is to go sleep on the couch. Make up sex is wonderful. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MM is the most important part of this
No. I was implying that Deputy Bruno and Vice President Cheney really run the show. So, I was implying that you need your puppet. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: How about Dan S. for Deputy Mayor/ Like Bush/Cheney or Sanders/Bruno. Anyone want to guess what I'm implying? That I would be a bigger prick than Guiliani. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: my last.. On The Tipping Point
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, evosap gabrielleobre@ wrote: .when you love someone, do you care what they look like? Yes, even more so. No, but I do appreciate when they shave their legs and pits. Call me shallow. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Esperanza means Hope
Like, I hope Asbury Partners goes away. It is amazing that they are trying to get $30 million out of the C-8 site. I don't fault someone for trying to make a nice profit, but this is excessive greed. Especially with so little down on their part. I just hope that city council does not buy into another poor Raspbury Partners Fishman story. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember, metro paid $17.2 M for the site and is on the hook for another 7% of sales to Partners,which was estimated at another $11+M. Then there was $4.5 for infrastructure and the costs to demolish C-8 and the loss of using that steel. Cancel the tax abatements. Stand in the way of Partners reselling the site to another subdeveloper. Get tough and hold them in technical default. The city cannot give an inch. Get a new lawyer. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A Hiccup
I'll second that. A full scale protest is long long overdue. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone has to plead with the city to do whatever it can to get rid of partners. It will NEVER work with them here. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Esperanza
I'll second that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being a member of the Asbury Park city council has to be one of the toughest jobs going. Most of these guys have full time jobs and families to support on top of their council responsibilities. They need all the help and support they can get. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MM is the most important part of this
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I liked your suggestion of Dan for mayortoo bad he didn't bite! John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MM is the most important part of this
How about Dan S. for Deputy Mayor/ Like Bush/Cheney or Sanders/Bruno. Anyone want to guess what I'm implying? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I liked your suggestion of Dan for mayortoo bad he didn't bite! John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tonight
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call The Asbury Park Zone.' Werner That's funny! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What should replace the Metropolitan Hotel?
How about worlds longest redevelopment project. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anything that can use the name World's Largest in the title. I love kitchy stuff like that when I go away. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 10 hours on I-95
Great Post Traderdube. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gives you many minutes to ponder. RE: AP needs money: All the ideas presented were execellent. Here is one that, because of the new people in the building dept., is underway. It is, become much, much, much more developer friendly. When we undertook the makeover of the 300 block of 4th Ave, possibly the worst block in the city, the city cost us at least 12 months. Between fighting for permits, getting harassed by zoning, and zero help from anyone in city hall, 2 condo projects that could have meant over 90 new tax paying homeowners, the delays caused our sales to start right when the market started to turn. Instead of welcoming the developers, Fasano, Sigmund and Gifford, they were treated as if they were thieves in the night. City officials should have celebrated the projects and got behind them. The end result, 304 4th ave ended up in auctions and, sadly, the building is reverting to the mess that it was prior to our cleaning in up. I am a very big fan of Terry Reidy, but I put the bulk of the blame on him. Despite our constant begging of him to step in and assist us, he did not. Yes, we deserve a portion of the blame. Stupid arrogance did get in the way. But when you venture millions of your own money, albeit to make money, there should be some give and take. Again, I believe if we started this project under the new building department personnel, the project would have evolved the way we imagined. RE: Hamilton and the drfiveway. I had the same thing happen to me. Gypsy pavers offered to pave my driveway(in Oceanport) for $700. Once they got started it became $3200. I threw them off my property and have enjoyed the hald a driveway they paved. RE: House of Blues. I ask you, is there anyone more connected than our very own Dan S? RE: Moving city hall to the west side. How is this not a no brainer? The West Side of AP has been neglected since day 1. The people who live there have earned and deserve this. Get the project moving and eff the whole idea of a redevelopment poroject. Make the vacant land available, make it available to minority buyers t incredible incentives and get the governing ding bats out of the way and allow captalism, you all remember good old American capitalism, to take over. within a very short period of time, Springwood Ave and the West Side will be transformed into a vibrant, money making community. The nicest people live on the west side, again, they deserve this. RE:The Baronet. Fishman bought the theater promisin(at council meetings) and to the seller, Fasano, that he would keep the Baronet going. He chased us away and the theater is quickly falling into the state it was in when we bought it. I tried to discuss the logical idea of developing the Baronet, Fast Lane and Asbury Lanes, along with the Pryor Pavillion, into what it is. Agenuine Historical Arts District that would be a great tourist draw for the entire city. Larry Fishman refuse my calls, never returned a acall, and when I did finally get to speak with him, he continued his lying ways. The most important thing that can happen is for thsi lying, no account piece fo garbage to be ridden out of Asbury on a rail. He has done the city immeasurable harm. Thankfully, we were able to broach the idea to Gary Mottolla and he was morfe than receptive. Again, Fishman remains in the way. RE: The Blue Bishop football team. Get behind them. These guys, despite the overwhelming odds, are the epitome of champions. While we're at it, we should embrace APHS's glorious sports tradition. The men and woman who excelled are all getting old, there should be something done to preserve the unbelievalble APHS sports tradition. Happy Thanksgiving, I hope the dog finds his way home. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 10 hours on I-95
I hope Asbury Park finds its way home too. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy Thanksgiving, I hope the dog finds his way home. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Van Zandt's School Music - We're a bit late
Also a very very good post. Tom I think that if you ever wanted to do the one thing in your life that could truly help Asbury Park, this might be the answer. I think many would support you in this endeavor. And kinda knowing you, you would not care what the opposition thought. How much money would something like this cost to have a case like this fought and won? I know this would be just an estimate. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oak it looks like we ended up agreeing in the end. I have no problm with choices people make. Go to private school, move to a good public district, etc. I support all of it. I do have a problem with government screwing things up by injecting themselves into it, which is what wrecked APHS - not parental choices. When buying a house, I absolutely avoided Asbury Park and the sending district because the High School is now segregated. I know that many, many other people did the same. That wasn't the case before the RBR ruling. I went to APHS with the sons of doctors, lawyers and millinaire businessmen. Yes, having that demographic was helpful to the poorer kids. That's gone thanks to the ruling. Look at real estate listings. Many of them list private schools on the listing so as not to list APHS. I laugh and cry everytime I see it. Since Avon no longer goes to APHS, their real estate has skyrocketed, now topping $1 Million on the MEDIAN house sale, and holding steady in this downturn. Everything changed when the Commissioner ruled that RBR having a better music program than Asbury Park is more important than whether a black kid goes to a segregated school. Read the decision that Mario linked. That was the ruling. It's the most bigoted, racist piece of government work I've seen in my lifetime, and it is shamelessly ignored. It's ignored because those with the political power in the area benefit from the ruling (like Avon); those without the power suffer from it (Asbury). Just imagine the classic busing issue: If a primarily white school in the area was suddenly going to be filled with poor black kids from Asbury, people would go berserk. There would be all sorts of lawsuits to stop it, with claims of government interference, social engineering, and claims that the school's natural demographic should be preserved. That ruling by the Commissioner is exactly the same thing with the colors reversed. The NATURAL DEMOGRAPHIC of APHS was racially and economically diversified, just as Ocean Township is now. The ruling destroyed that by busing the white kids past Asbury Park to another public school in Little Silver. Who is going to file the the Federal Civil Rights lawsuit claiming de facto segregation (can anyone claim that wasn't the result of the ruling with a straight face)? Are the white parents who are avoiding APHS going to do it? No. The poor black parents? I don't think so. AP Board of Ed? No, too busy gossiping and in fighting to tackle something so serious and important. If APHS was naturally segregated by race, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me. Since it is racially segregateed by the government with busing to another public school, I'm confident my objection is on the moral high ground, even if I stand alone. Standing alone though, I'm starting to feel like I don't care anymore either. The state can keep the school segregated, Asbury Park Board of Ed (Bored of Ed?) can keep taking the Abbott hush money and not challenge the segregation ruling, and none of it is going to hurt me. So why should I care? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: TD, You and I can both stop, take residence in AP, and stick our kids there. but we haven't. I'd take a gamble on those beers that Deal, Allenhurst, Belmar have LESS HS age kids eligible to go to AP. Then you have determine why those parents CHOOSE to send their kids to a private school, parochial school or to a county speciality school. IT's choice. You and I have made it as well, by choosing to live in towns other then AP with a schools that are well diversified in race and incomes - that being Howell and OT. OT and Howell are not the same as in 1996 nor in are they in our era of the late 70's either. In '75 my class (8th grade) had 3 african american students - and I can name them. In '79 I could still name a few more african american students. And I;m saying I can name them as a good thing casue we were all friends. I can say today the make-up of the the student body, at least in OT, is about as diversified as it can be on all levels - race, incomes, family status etc. As such, in my view, the teaching methods have changed dramatically. I wish I could convince my son to go to CBA, and I'd be willing to pay. It's
[AsburyPark] Re: Missing Red English Bulldog. Please keep looking
In years, past they contracted out this service. I'm not sure what they do today. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thanks for the info. I'm around town all the time, so will keep a look-out. I know how distressing this is, I'm a 'pet person' also (cats for 30 years of my life). If I see her, I'll scoop her up :-) Does the City still have an Animal Patrol? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Missing Red English Bulldog. Please keep looking
I know it is a little crazy, but the two of you could get a friend to drop you off at the corner of Ridge Avenue and Deal Lake and walk home. Think about how dogs track fugitives. The lake is a perfect barrier. Leave some food, Maxie's blanket or such and maybe a couple of your T-shirts in a pile outside your home. Good Luck. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You all have been so great and understanding. I don't know how we will ever repay you all for everything you all are doing. AnthonyG 600 8th AnthonyN and Rick 510 First Ave. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget Committee
I think renters should qualify, they pay a lot of taxes directly and indirectly through the landlord. And just because someone rents, it does not mean they are not talented to contribute to the committee. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: curious, will you share the names you submitted with us? do you believe all should be taxpayers(ie not renters)? do you believe city employees could serve on said committee? thank you Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget Committee
That comment ought to light up the board for a couple days. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, Does your ego permit you to feel any sense of shame when you attack the council majority in this irresponsible fashion? I was just wondering. Paul Vail --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady james.keady@ wrote: Friends of Asbury Park: At the November 7th City Council Meeting, Terry Reidy, the City Manager, announced that he is seeking citizens to serve on a Budget Committee. I was excited to learn of this because in recent weeks, I have been working on a draft plan for a Committee for Fiscal Responsibility. From his brief explanation of what he has in mind, I believe we are on the same page on this issue. I have included a copy of my draft plan below for your review and have submitted this plan to the City Manager, along with a short list of names of citizens that I feel should serve on this committee. It is important for each of you to know why this committee is so necessary at this point in Asbury Park's development. Because of the failed policies of the Council majority, most specifically in regards to the Waterfront Redevelopment Plan and the Waterfront Redevelopment Agreement, our city is short $8 million dollars in tax revenue to cover our bills for 2007 and it is projected that we will be short $12.5 million dollars in 2008. For those of you who are unaware, by this point in the redevelopment of the waterfront, we should have been close to having 1200 new condominium units (300 each year). To date, we have approximately 40. One cannot blame the most recent market shifts for this lack of performance. This is a matter of incompetence on the part of Asbury Partners and an unwillingness to play hard ball on the part of the Council majority. These are the facts and we must deal with them. What is necessary now is clear leadership and direction to get our fiscal house in order. We must recruit the most qualified citizens to help the city reach the goals and objectives I have outlined below. If you are interested in serving on this committee, please email me at james.keady@ or email the City Manager at terence.reidy@ For your convenience I have posted this information on my blog at www.keadyreport.blogspot.com. If you have comments you would like other citizens to read, please post them there. I hope this finds you well. Peace, Councilman Jim Keady PROPOSAL BY COUNCILMAN JIM KEADY COMMITTEE FOR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY DRAFT: MISSION, GOALS, OBJECTIVES Mission: The Committee for Fiscal Responsibility will advise the CFO, City Manager, and City Council to create an efficient, cost effective, and performance-orientated City government. Goals: 1. To reduce overall spending by 5% for the 2008 fiscal year and 7.5% for fiscal year 2009. 2. To increase revenues by 5% for the 2008 fiscal year and by 7.5% for fiscal year 2009. 3. To establish a five-year strategic plan for the City government. Objectives: 1. City Council will vote on the creation of this committee and appoint its members by December 31, 2007. 2. All City Departments will submit 2008 mission, goals, objectives and budgets by December 31, 2007 and project for their departments the goals and budgets for each fiscal year from 2009 through 2012. 3. The Committee will meet once a week beginning January 2008. 4. The Committee will review proposed 2008 mission, goals, objectives and budgets and recommend spending cuts and income enhancements for each department by February 15, 2008. 5. The Committee will develop a draft five-year strategic plan for revenues and expenditures in collaboration with the CFO and City Manager by March 15, 2008. 6. The City Council will review, revise and adopt a five-year strategic plan by April 15, 2008. 7. The Committee will meet monthly with the CFO and City Manager to review the implementation of the five-year plan to review its adherence to the department budgets and the income projections, and make recommendations for necessary adjustments. Committee Membership: One member from each of the nine voting districts in Asbury Park; two Asbury Park City Council members; two Asbury Park business owners; one member from the NJ Department of Community Affairs, one member from the NJ Treasurer's Office. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL
[AsburyPark] Re: What $2.5M buys
I forget, how many stories is the Esperanza going to be. I know there was a problem with the heights changing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: BTW, the PH purchase in the Esperanza WAS NOT Dean Geibel. It was a REAL third party purchaser. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What $2.5M buys
Like same old situation different story. Ta dah! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its going to be 2 towers like the old Carabetta plan. 16 and 12 stories. However, it will be much taller then originally permitted because todays 'story' is taller then the 'story' of the 1980s. (I'm certain someone can make a quip with that material :-) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box
This is what is needed, I do feel members of this board could get four others elected. Just think about what a powerful force we could be as a campaign committee. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could that meeting be the first step to use emminent domain AGAINST the Partners and to allow MM to take it all over by themselves? Just a thought - and a question for all of you to ponder. Glenn I said this a couple years ago. I called it reverse eminent domain. At least take phase II and III of Wesley Grove, remove the redevelopment zone that covers homes east of kingsley which will enable owners to work on their own properties or remove the cloud. Take the pony block, the lot behind empress, 3rd ave block take it and resell it to INDIVIDUAL, national developers. Reverse eminent domain. There's an excellent recent court decision to support this today. It's called KELO. Kelo - while an area might look good or not be blighted, there is a better public good that will produce more taxes and better the life of the local residents. Get rid of the council except 1. New attorneys. New life. Time to use KELO as the court wants it to be used. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL I'll be Porch Bulb then. More likely Porch Light. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box
The problem is also the amount of money the four council members took from Asbury Partners in the last election. Tens of thousands of dollars. And mostly from New York and California people. Go to the New Jersey Election Committee web site and look at the reports. Can anyone upload them to this site? Mario or Dan? You want this to change, elect others. Keep Keady. Not sure on Johnson. The End. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: The Partners have used emminent domain at their will to claim many properties whith wich they do NOTHING with (unless, of course MM presses them to do so.) Could that meeting be the first step to use emminent domain AGAINST the Partners and to allow MM to take it all over by themselves? I have written and spoken about this for a couple of years. I have advised (or tried to) on this matter. The WRA prohibits the City from condemning property in the redevelopment zone without Partner's approval. That is so Partners cannot be forced to take and pay for property before it wants to. It would include Partners properties as well. However, what I told the city, is that it cannot contractually agree to limits its inherent sovereign power. Thus, nothing could stop the city from violating that provision. Only the state legislature can limit a local sovereign's power of eminent domain. However, that being said, while nothing could stop the city from taking property contrary to that provision, Partners might be able to sue for breach of contract. However, another possibility is that the court could find that the provision limiting the city's power of eminent domain was contrary to the public good and thus, the provision is not only unenforceable but void ab initio (never existed). All of this is an invitation to litigation. No one wanted it, especially after being held in purgatory by the bankruptcy court. However, I believe that ultimately a tiger cannot change its stripes and litigation will be necessary. While I wish it did not have to happen, perhaps the city leaders will finally reach the breaking point and decide that we have to tighten our belts and go to the mattresses. That litigation could grease the skids for Partners' exit. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Square Lights Update
I thought someone from the city was to report to JCPL when the light poles are out. This particular situation with the park should have been reported by the police to someone to get them fixed. This is irresponsible and symbolic of public servant apathy. Who else from city government is roaming the streets at night except for the police. They would be the ones to notice what areas of the city are without working light poles. The ball is clearly in their court to report this information up the ladder. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack and Werner, stay off of those ladders. Recent update from Terry below: I know that they are JCPL lamps.and that JCPL was contacted again yesterdayagain, the district manager was our contactas of yesterday we were able to confirm that there are two lights out.and that JCPL committed to fixing them by the end of the week (they were shooting for today, but I would not bank on that). Hope this helps in the battle to keep accurate information alive and well in Asbury Park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: a political rant
I believe it will get better. Much better in time. The world will recover from many of the things that make us so angry and frustrated. It just had to get this bad. In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have really lost our way in America, and I wonder if we will ever recover from our own arrogance and excesses. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: My thoughts on saving the Stone Pony
Just one thought on the Museum. It should be a couple floors up in case of a hurricane or localized flooding. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: LULL
That is the most interesting thing I have seen on the board today. You will have to keep us posted. I have to run errands for a while. This is the second most interesting thing posted on the board. Can anybody top Jack or me. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking the same thing. I do have a bit of news. Greta, the movie filming locally, will be filming tomorrow on my street, 1st Ave, from Bergh to Kingsley. That is all. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: Is there anybody out there? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:Library Park/Senior Center/Library
I always thought a great idea would be to put the senior center next to the Library. The property to the right if you are going up the steps. I'm sure the city could get it for a good price or through eminent domain. What I would do is expand the library and connect via an enclosed passageway to the senior center. That way the two building could cross pollinate uses. The senior could go to the library, volunteer, check out books, baby sit, use computers, etc. and the library could hold seminars at the senior center in the evenings. A win win for all. The other nice thing is that the seniors could use Jacks park and keep an eye on the things. This location is within walking distance to Cookman avenue and the Boardwalk. Let's keep the seniors involved in Asbury Park. It's the right thing to do. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a Senior and have no idea, what's available for seniors, as far as recreation, etc. Seems you have to be 80 and above, to join in. Neptune seniors, have everything, while Asbury's Seniors, have nothing! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
You have a point, but the whole nation has moved or is moving to county based 911. We are not special in Asbury Park to think that we can be different in this capacity. We need to cut costs. This is a place where it should be done. In addition, did you see app.com today? Guy from Neptune served 11 years for killing and sexually mutillating a women is accused again of new murder. How does a guy serve only 11 years for killing someone, especially that way? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: One major crime related problem in Asbury Park is that we have our own private 911 center, instead of merging with the county 911 center. So instead of spending money to put more cops and horses on the streets, we use it to staff an inadequate 24 hour call center with all the fancy equipment that this involves. Redundancy? In addition, being part of the county system puts another set of eyes on what is happening in Asbury Park. It's crime and it's policing as well. i personally think the horses are the biggest waste of money and manpower, oh they will look great on cookman at first saturday and will be nice in parades, but bottomline 2 more officers off the streets,i know its too early but i wonder how many citations they have given out? dog and pony show when we need foot patrols as far as the 911 i totally disagree with you, first of all to continue to be in the county system had serious defects, number one the cost , its not free the number i heard was well over 50 thousand last year, secondly the time factor i call 911 it goes to the county then back to ap fire or police, instead of directly to them, 911 is suppose to be for an emergency if i ever have one i dont want a time lapse while phone calls are being relayed, i would also think local dispatchers are more knowledgable about our streets, then someone sitting behind a switchboard in freehold, which again could be a worth while time factor, thank you Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Oh some level, I agree, but the police aren't doing sureillence, and aren't making arrests. Calvin, who lives across the street, says he's called the PD many times, and he's fed up with their lack of effort. Now, I know the PD already have their hands full, but please. How many phone calls does it take for them to get the message. And, when a concerned for their safety citizen like myself contacts the PD, worried about the kids that I just reported, and they don't even bother to ask my name, that's also a problem. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Council's Health Benefits
I remember about 6 years ago when the state audited the city, they said the council was not legally allowed to get the health benefits. The council as I remember just ignored this finding. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They receive a stipend and I believe health benefits. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] 911 911 911 911...........
One major crime related problem in Asbury Park is that we have our own private 911 center, instead of merging with the county 911 center. So instead of spending money to put more cops and horses on the streets, we use it to staff an inadequate 24 hour call center with all the fancy equipment that this involves. Redundancy? In addition, being part of the county system puts another set of eyes on what is happening in Asbury Park. It's crime and it's policing as well. Just think how these county dispatchers could link crimes that are happening outside of Asbury Park to ones happening inside Asbury Park. I.e. The such and such drug gang did so and so in Neptune at 10:30 p.m. and then did such and such in Asbury Park at midnight. I think it would make it much easier to catch the criminals this way. I always find it such a joke that we are in so much of a financial crisis, yet we maintain the fire department and the police departments in a fashion that no other well heeled town with lots of money to waste would even consider doing. Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh some level, I agree, but the police aren't doing sureillence, and aren't making arrests. Calvin, who lives across the street, says he's called the PD many times, and he's fed up with their lack of effort. Now, I know the PD already have their hands full, but please. How many phone calls does it take for them to get the message. And, when a concerned for their safety citizen like myself contacts the PD, worried about the kids that I just reported, and they don't even bother to ask my name, that's also a problem. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press
Yeah, how much was donated to charity? Anyone attend? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. Where is the mayor? Have you ever seen him give a press conference? I haven't. He was happy to be the host of the Mayor's ball though. How much did that cost the city? Seems to me the best voice in AP, the one that the public hears from the most is Jim Keady. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: AP, shootings, and the Asbury Park Press
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Right. Where is the mayor? Have you ever seen him give a press conference? I haven't. He was happy to be the host of the Mayor's ball though. How much did that cost the city? Seems to me the best voice in AP, the one that the public hears from the most is Jim Keady. Very very good point. That is why in the future, Jim Keady should be the mayor. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Coaster Article About Regionalizing Asbury Park Fire Services With Others
I'm sure we are supplementing these other governmental bodies. I doubt they would bring this up if it wouldn't save some money. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure how this could work. We have the highest costs since our dept is paid. - Original Message From: rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:55:30 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Coaster Article About Regionalizing Asbury Park Fire Services With Others Chief Keddy, Reidy and Bruno favor the move. This is great news. We should all get behind this effort. Consolidating fire services is absolutely necessary for this city to do in order to right itself from the budget deficits. __ __ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New businesses
What the name of the one in Hershey, I go there sometimes? -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That place, along with a German restaurant in Hershey, PA have been my favorites in the states. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Cost of Events
Good Point, I hope we can get these cost figures. Transparency is key to good government in New Jersey. Since we had the past corruption problems, Asbury Park has to double its efforts in its open access to information. I'm curious, as you know, about the Mayor's Ball. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael W. Brim mwbnj@ wrote: FYI: We need funding to help get the funding to have our City covered in this program we need camberas in AP Michael Brim no question about it we need cameras, the uez doesnt have funds? here is a stupid idea, lets have no more bs events, chef puff, no cake,unattended arts festival, apple festival attended because it was on a saturday night on cookman, great event for the kids, not!!! dec 15th winter carnival, what is this going to be 110 santa clauses looking at the lights and trees put up every year? talk about a waste of money this series was the biggest rip off going, one day we should all get an acounting of who made what and what the city actually got for these half ass events, my take without the facts, just made a couple of people tons of money, if im wrong someone please supply this group with the costs etc. and i will apologize, lets stop the crap and use this money for the cameras, if not this year then budget the money were going to save, by not having these events and buy the cameras out of nest years budget, again i wish someone perhaps councilman keady who posts here will ask for and give us the costs of these events, thank you Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Transparency
I went to Jewell Marketings website. I think I found out why the idea of a hundred banjo players was marketed for the Apple Festival. Mr. Jewell teaches banjos. Not only are we paying them for marketing, were paying for them to have a banjo bash. One last note, Jewell Marketing is from Fair Haven. Gilmour is a council member from there or was one. Is that how we pick talent? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here is a stupid idea, lets have no more bs events, chef puff, no cake,unattended arts festival, apple festival attended because it was on a saturday night on cookman, great event for the kids, not!!! dec 15th winter carnival, what is this going to be 110 santa clauses looking at the lights and trees put up every year? talk about a waste of money this series was the biggest rip off going, one day we should all get an acounting of who made what and what the city actually got for these half ass events, my take without the facts, just made a couple of people tons of money, if im wrong someone please supply this group with the costs etc. and i will apologize, lets stop the crap and use this money for the cameras, if not this year then budget the money were going to save, by not having these events and buy the cameras out of nest years budget, again i wish someone perhaps councilman keady who posts here will ask for and give us the costs of these events, thank you Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Downtown Marketing
I always wondered why we don't have any major signs telling people traveling on Main to turn into the downtown district. A lot of tourists going up and down the coast might not even know this area exists and just keep on going straight to somewhere else to spend their money. Really, for a few well placed signs, think how much traffic would be diverted into the district and down along the ocean. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Coaster Article About Regionalizing Asbury Park Fire Services With Others
Chief Keddy, Reidy and Bruno favor the move. This is great news. We should all get behind this effort. Consolidating fire services is absolutely necessary for this city to do in order to right itself from the budget deficits. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
My dog is called Kicking Bird. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dog is named Lakota! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I miss the Kingsley Deli's coffee chat
I do too. Very much. At times the conversations in there could get as frustrating as this boards do, but I miss having a place to go to like that. You could always go down there and sit, get a cup of coffee and talk with so many different people as they past through the place. It was a hub of this community, Come November it will be a year since she closed. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I miss Rita, at the counter with her smile and her remarks. KB ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Water Park
Who was awarded the contract? Was it a competetive bid? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Pavillion North of Convention Hall Rumor
Dan, you can go to map quest and zoom in from an ariel image to see it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: I must be blind. r u sure? yep. It was open all summer with a some little huts around it. Got to trust me on a few things. I saw those huts from the bw but I thought they were garbage or equipment bins. I could not see the pool. Must be tiny. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Troll, Troll, Troll
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one is asking you to read through anything. Just tell me what you think he meant about he Mayor's Ball when he posted a link about money not going where promised. What do you think he meant? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Mayor's Ball
Tom D., I will be direct. 1. Can you tell me last years' total dollar amount given to charity from the Mayors' Ball. The reason I ask is I'm curious if the amount of UEZ money or city taxes needed to run the event was greater than the amount given to charity. My Mayors Ball thread started because one day in August the Council decided they were no longer going to take money to help pay for the Mayors' Ball from the developers and attorneys involved in Asbury Park. Then Gilmour is suspended, and now they are going to take money for the Mayors' Ball from said developers and attorneys. Tom,can you answer number 1? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Weldon Sighting -
I know this story is a little old, but if you go look at the last article Mellina wrote for the Coaster posted on August 28th,2007,(Deja Vu all oner Again) on AsburyPark.net, she mentions all the corrupt people who got busted in the FBI raids. She fails to mention Weldon at all. An oversight? This is the one part where I think Mallina is so inconsistant. She cried foul all those years about corruption in Asbury Park and then does all these things with Weldon. The statements at council, the articles, etc asburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blue Swan Diner, Tonight, Oct. 6, 2007 - 10 PM Weldon and wife were eating with former councilperson Kate Mellina and husband Dave Christopher. It was a relief to see how healthy wife Nancy looked. She seemed to be enjoying her food and when it was time to leave, rose from her chair unassisted and walked out of the diner on her own. When Weldon was sentenced on Aug. 27th, his lawyer asked the judge for a reduced sentence because of the wife's medical condition. Although he never named the malady, the lawyer told the judge that it kept Mrs. Weldon home bound, unable to drive, totally dependent on her husband, the defendent, and had affected the whole family. She's not getting any better, was the way the lawyer put it. Maureen Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Va Fa Napole
Facetious - joking, esp. at an inappropriate time. Yes I was. I love the word, never heard of it before. I learn a lot from this board. Legal, historical, land use, real estate, music, english, etc... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Coincidentally, a post about a Ball appeared, facetiously I think, but the questions were answered defensively, and with a touch of hostility. (what in the world is your's and Rooks problem with that? [sic]) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Weldon Sighting -
No, I really don't think she would ever do something wrong like that. I disagree with her on many things and her approach to handling issues, but she is not corrupt. - In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe she has something to hide and feels fortunate that she wasn't caught up in the crossfire? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal restore881FM@ wrote: The letters of clemency... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: I know this story is a little old, but if you go look at the last article Mellina wrote for the Coaster posted on August 28th,2007, (Deja Vu all oner Again) on AsburyPark.net, she mentions all the corrupt people who got busted in the FBI raids. She fails to mention Weldon at all. An oversight? This is the one part where I think Mallina is so inconsistant. She cried foul all those years about corruption in Asbury Park and then does all these things with Weldon. The statements at council, the articles, etc asburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal restore881FM@ wrote: Blue Swan Diner, Tonight, Oct. 6, 2007 - 10 PM Weldon and wife were eating with former councilperson Kate Mellina and husband Dave Christopher. It was a relief to see how healthy wife Nancy looked. She seemed to be enjoying her food and when it was time to leave, rose from her chair unassisted and walked out of the diner on her own. When Weldon was sentenced on Aug. 27th, his lawyer asked the judge for a reduced sentence because of the wife's medical condition. Although he never named the malady, the lawyer told the judge that it kept Mrs. Weldon home bound, unable to drive, totally dependent on her husband, the defendent, and had affected the whole family. She's not getting any better, was the way the lawyer put it. Maureen Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Why Don't You Guys Reinact Sailing Back to Spain, I'l l Come Watch
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry you and others on this board hate America. See everyone who is patriotic at the landing. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Springstein on 60 Minutes tonight. The show started at 7:30 because football
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[AsburyPark] It's It's a Ballroom Blitz
Have any of you attended the Mayors' Balls in the past. I bet Tommy has. If so, what was the count. Besides two. In addition, does anyone know the actual dollar amount donated to charity last year. Maybe, we should go and reserve a table under the asbury park yahoos group. And the man in the back said everyone attack. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Marketing ??
I see the benefits of the Fourth of July parade to the community, but the Mayor's ball? If you can't make a profit off of the tickets what are we doing? Paying for fluffing feathers. And I'm suprised the three knuckle heads did not think it was a little imapproprite to take this money from developers and attorneys in the past. They better not get elected again. Last month, Bruno and some other council members raised concerns over the 110th campaign when funding for certain events, such as the deputy mayor's own Fourth of July Parade and the Mayor's Ball, did not come through as it had in the past. The problem, Bruno said in August, was that he and others agreed not to go to the developers and city attorneys for funding for their traditional events as they had in the past. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Marketing ??
BTW, if the riders giving the percentage were later added they should not be honored. I find it hard to believe that all of this should be laying at Gilmour's feet. He is probably falling on the sword. More like they already have an idea of who is going to replace him. We are just going through a process of elimination. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Historical Society
Isn't it funny that Rawdogalways showed up after the Gilmour article was posted on this site. It quotes Jimmy Bruno. Let sleeping dogs lie, unless they are curious what we are going to say about them. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rawdogalways [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Mayor's Ball Article in Coaster Today
Guess what? We are now taking money from developers again. Attorneys soon to follow. Hooray! And Guy McCombs who chairs the Mayors'(got you by the Balls)Committee is no other than Asbury Partners PR manager. I think we are now officially a Puppet regime. Is the hand making you feel uncomfortable? They bought the election, they bought the city and they have bought the elected officials. Keady and maybe Johnson excluded. I believe more resistance fighters are needed. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Mayor's Ball Article in Coaster Today
Does anyone know how much was raised and donated last year? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Downward Spiral Alert - Again
Mario, I thought you left the site. I thought Justified left the site a while back also. While I agree the Columbus event is relative to the Asbury Park yahoo group, I can't believe you think the two of you aren't going to go at it again. Just don't post fifty times on the subject and try to be a little more brief. This goes for everybody. Sometimes I leave the site for a couple of days because I'm away or something and it takes me forever to read through all the excessive posts. This absolutely frustrates me. Besides, I'm a slow reader and writer as well. I don't know how some of you have all the time to do the research and writing that you do. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MMMAPNJ@ wrote: As long as the tone about AP events remains civil, how can there a downward spiral? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Ida Corrubia
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rook Can you ask Ida Corrubia what she remembers about the destruction of the Mayfair? Thanks. Yes, I plan to visit her soon. Late October. I'll ask her if she remembers you. I'm sure she does, but her mememory is slipping ever so slightly. She is still funny though. I'm sure you remember her laugh. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: An Upward Spiral
Both Columbus and Loffredo in real estate. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I'm very close with the Indians. They're excited to meet Columbus. Proud Americans. I know, they're your kids. Have a good time. Is Big John Columbus again? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
