Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations
ShutterShock wrote: Any powered speaker recommendations for direct connection from a SB Classic? I've been using the AudioEngine A2s on my desktop and am blown away by their accuracy. Just wondering about room-filling alternatives. Are the AudioEngine 5 series worth considering? Any other recommendations? Thanks. http://www.krksys.com/krk-studio-monitor-speakers/rokit/rokit-8.html I saw these a while back when searching for active monitors for my friends kid and thought they might have some potential mashley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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i want to add a bolster to Yamaha HS80m , and KH 0300D.. man, they are so amazing TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Phileas wrote: Can I add AVI ADM40s to the list? I've just bought a pair and they're extraordinary (I had the ADM9Ts already). I'd love to hear what you think of them, I've fancied a pair of the ADM9T's with a Sub, but now having seen these, I'm really intrested in them. They are a big price hike, so they would have to be a quantum improvement for me to justify the extra cost. I see that at the moment, they are made to order, but you can go to ADM to audition them. If you could post some pictures of these speakers, it would be very helpful in seeing the quality of finish. RussellMrgn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29655 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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RussellMrgn wrote: I'd love to hear what you think of them, I've fancied a pair of the ADM9T's with a Sub, but now having seen these, I'm really intrested in them. They are a big price hike, so they would have to be a quantum improvement for me to justify the extra cost. I see that at the moment, they are made to order, but you can go to ADM to audition them. If you could post some pictures of these speakers, it would be very helpful in seeing the quality of finish. Russell, if you go to the AVI forum, there's a review section where you'll find reviews by me and several owners including some pictures. The AVI website also has a nice picture of one with cherry veneer. In my opinion, these are a very significant advance over the ADM9T+sub. However, there is also a new and improved version of the ADM9T available (with a new woofer design) which I haven't heard but by all accounts is also a worthwhile improvement. Phileas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20367 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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TheOctavist wrote: Sure, why not. although Ash's marketing isnt too popular That's alright - I'm not Ash. :p Phileas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20367 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Phileas wrote: Can I add AVI ADM40s to the list. I've just bought a pair and they're extraordinary (I had the ADM9Ts already). Sure, why not. although Ash's marketing isnt too popular TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Can I add AVI ADM40s to the list. I've just bought a pair and they're extraordinary (I had the ADM9Ts already). Phileas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20367 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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jean2;695771 Wrote: I have been using the old A5 connected to a Touch for more than one year, but I have no experience with new A5+. My old A5 does the auto sleep, after something like 5 min of inactivity, you hear the speaker pop as the amp switches off. From memory, they still consume 1 or 2 W after going in auto-sleep. The annoying thing with the A5 is that the blue led still stay on solid after going in auto-sleep. The A5 has two 3.5mm jack input, I would have preferred the RCA input of the A5+. I find incredible that auto-sleep is no longer listed as a feature of the A5+. Good eye catching that, I would have assumed that they would have carried over this essential function. I would send an e-mail to AudioEngine themselves to verify the availability of that feature. Just to let you know what Audioengine replied about the A5+: Here's some power consumption and sleep function info for the A5+; Idle: 10W Mute: 6W Sleep: 4W The idle mode would be automatic when no music is playing, the lights will remain on and solid and nothing needs to be done to resume audio playback. The mute and sleep mode can be initiated with the remote control and will reduce power consumption even more when not in use, these each have there own way of blinking the indicator light to let you know they are in a deep sleep mode, you would need to use the remote, or the front panel volume control to bring the set out of these deep sleep modes to resume playback. It's perfectly fine however to simply let them Idle when not in use. -- mhaas mhaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40657 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Mnyb;695874 Wrote: if you could read Swedish I would direct you to some nutty swedes that have suggested an anti ns10 filter to make productions tainted by it more pleasing ;) Please do post the link. Du väckte min nyfikenhet, og jag läser svenska bättre än jag skriver det. :D -- Soulkeeper Noise Music Silence Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Mnyb;695874 Wrote: The NS10 ? Has it not some well understod flaws it is not neutral if you could read Swedish I would direct you to some nutty swedes that have suggested an anti ns10 filter to make productions tainted by it more pleasing ;) The NS1000 was very ubiquitous here for a while as SR got them in the radio studios ( some childhood memory of visiting SR studios and seing those beryllium domes for midrange and treble ) I can read swedish ok, please direct me to it!! yes, the NS10 has some flaws(like any loudspeaker) but millions of albums that we all love were mixed using them! the HS80 is a very, very good performer!! -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Soulkeeper;695911 Wrote: Please do post the link. Du väckte min nyfikenhet, og jag läser svenska bättre än jag skriver det. :D mine too, ive never heard of such a thing -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Soulkeeper;695911 Wrote: Please do post the link. Du väckte min nyfikenhet, og jag läser svenska bättre än jag skriver det. :D yes i did not find all old links http://www.lts.a.se/pub/artiklar/ns10/YamahaNS10.pdf it's from LTS There was a whole line of forum post I just can't find the relevant ones anymore sorry . The dividing line is that some believes that a sound engineer can use this speaker anyway because they are familiar with it's flaws . And of-course check with larger main monitors etc. Btw They have an compression analyzer for assesing loudness war records. http://www.lts.a.se/lts/masvis +---+ |Filename: NS10 measurment.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13185| +---+ -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Thank you. For those of you who don't read Swedish well, I found out that it's possible to 'run it through Google Translate' (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=nprev=_tie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lts.a.se%2Fpub%2Fartiklar%2Fns10%2FYamahaNS10.pdfact=url) for your enjoyment(?). The English translation is kind of broken, but if you throw enough time goodwill at it, I reckon you'll get the gist of it. -- Soulkeeper Noise Music Silence Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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it was a bit tongue in cheek too :) Engineers can sometimes use weird speakers , Auratones anyone ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Mnyb;695948 Wrote: it was a bit tongue in cheek too :) Engineers can sometimes use weird speakers , Auratones anyone ? auratones are used for a couple of purposes. often run as a single speaker, in mono... the reason being if your mixes sound amazing in mono, they will sound INCREDIBLE when mixed to stereo. so often we check things in mono just to see. getting things mono compatible is crucial for a good mix. also... auratones are very good at mimicing the sound/response of consumer equipment.. so if we get things sounding great on these..again, they are gonna be superb on real speakers -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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TheOctavist;695953 Wrote: also... auratones are very good at mimicing the sound/response of consumer equipment.. so if we get things sounding great on these..again, they are gonna be superb on real speakers :-/ why not make it soud as good as it can, to present the music as good as possible ? My acoustic is a bit daft , but I rarely owned such speakers looks like what comes with a 70's compact stereo. me thinks the lowest common demeanour have moved a bit . And btw it is a bit like the loudness war ? Why adapt the sound for consumers that don't care for sound quality at all a very weird practice ? Make it sound better on crap stereo owned by people who could not care less ? If mixed to sound good on more able speakers we audiophiles would be happier :) and the others won't notice ( maybe when their cones fall out of thier speakers ) But mono is needed otherwise nothing would sound good in Radio or similar equipment -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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My requirements for powered speakers for my SBT apart from good SQ are: 1. remote control 2. auto power on/off when (no) sound Audioengine A5 have 2 but not 1 and A5+ have 1 but not 2, am I right, A5 owners? Anybody knows of an alternative? -- mhaas mhaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40657 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Why the RC requirement? -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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The speakers are out of reach in the bedroom/kitchen and I keep the volume on 100% on the SBT. -- mhaas mhaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40657 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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OK, but it its because of SQ, my opinion is that the A5s are not really good enough to make it worth the effort - unless you turn it all the way down. For normal use, I'd say the usable volume range on the Touch allows for quite some flexibility. But it is nice to be able to physically adjust roughly for low/medium/high volumes, so if they are totally out of reach, I can see the point. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Check the newest model of the AudioEngine A5 + s. The newly updated model has remote. http://audioengineusa.com/Store/Audioengine-5-Plus#features I keep a set of A5's in my traveling system...with the SB Touch as a source, it's a fine little speaker. Lot's of bang for the buck. -- Curt962 Life is precious. I've been to the edge, and learned that God is my friend. Praise Him at every opportunity, and Celebrate every day! Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Curt962;695761 Wrote: Check the newest model of the AudioEngine A5 + s. The newly updated model has remote. http://audioengineusa.com/Store/Audioengine-5-Plus#features I keep a set of A5's in my traveling system...with the SB Touch as a source, it's a fine little speaker. Lot's of bang for the buck. I know, but they don't have the auto-sleep/wake up feature, am I correct? -- mhaas mhaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40657 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Go the features sheet on the website. Yes they DO have the auto energy save mode...or whatever it's called. -- Curt962 Life is precious. I've been to the edge, and learned that God is my friend. Praise Him at every opportunity, and Celebrate every day! Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Curt962;695764 Wrote: Go the features sheet on the website. Yes they DO have the auto energy save mode...or whatever it's called. I stand corrected. The Sleep feature is controlled from the remote. There MAY be an auto sleep mode also, but I don't see it at glance. Seems like a small matter.You needed a Remote. Use it to put 'em to sleep! :) The website is not clear about the auto feature, that's why I'd prefer some owner confirmed how the sleep mode works. As to the manual sleep on the remote - I don't want to look for a second remote to put the speakers on or off whilst controlling the touch from my android. Or remember to put them off when I finish. The remote is needed for occasional volume adjustment. Seems petty but that's the convenient way I'm used to do it (with my crappy JBL speakers) -- mhaas mhaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40657 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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mhaas;695763 Wrote: I know, but they don't have the auto-sleep/wake up feature, am I correct? I have been using the old A5 connected to a Touch for more than one year, but I have no experience with new A5+. My old A5 does the auto sleep, after something like 5 min of inactivity, you hear the speaker pop as the amp switches off. From memory, they still consume 1 or 2 W after going in auto-sleep. The annoying thing with the A5 is that the blue led still stay on solid after going in auto-sleep. The A5 has two 3.5mm jack input, I would have preferred the RCA input of the A5+. I find incredible that auto-sleep is no longer listed as a feature of the A5+. Good eye catching that, I would have assumed that they would have carried over this essential function. I would send an e-mail to AudioEngine themselves to verify the availability of that feature. -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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Check it out. Yamaha HS80m. Superb Speakers. Just superb. Replacements for the long revered NS10s that are ubiquitous in recording studios. if you dont love the SOBs, ill buy the damn things from you -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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jean2;695771 Wrote: I have been using the old A5 connected to a Touch for more than one year, but I have no experience with new A5+. My old A5 does the auto sleep, after something like 5 min of inactivity, you hear the speaker pop as the amp switches off. From memory, they still consume 1 or 2 W after going in auto-sleep. The annoying thing with the A5 is that the blue led still stay on solid after going in auto-sleep. The A5 has two 3.5mm jack input, I would have preferred the RCA input of the A5+. I find incredible that auto-sleep is no longer listed as a feature of the A5+. Good eye catching that, I would have assumed that they would have carried over this essential function. I would send an e-mail to AudioEngine themselves to verify the availability of that feature. If the Auto Sleep function were in fact, no longer a part of the new A5+...I'd wager that it was because people were alarmed by the POP you'd hear when the speakers snoozed off... To me, it seems like small potatoes. Six of one...Half-Dozen of the other. Idle current consumption (it IS specified) is menial, and probably about the same as a Kid's nightlight. Probably a lot less than the sum total of all the wall-warts that we have plugged in around the house idly sipping electricity. I thought the A5's were an extraordinarly good value, and mostly found the Auto Sleep to be a nuisance.When I'm done listeningI just turn everything off.Been doing it that way with things for years. :) Get yourself some A5+s. Audioengine has a very liberal Money Back guarantee (30 days, so there's nothing to lose! Spend an evening or two getting 'em set up just-so in your room...same as you would do with a $1000 speaker, and you will likely get $1000 speaker sound! The low price tag, and PC speaker moniker undersells these little gems.They're beautifully made, and packaged in a way that many supposed Hi-end manufacturers could take notes from. Yes...my old A5's have traveled with me for 3 years, and I could recommend them to anyone! They really impress me. -- Curt962 Life is precious. I've been to the edge, and learned that God is my friend. Praise Him at every opportunity, and Celebrate every day! Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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TheOctavist;695773 Wrote: Check it out. Yamaha HS80m. Superb Speakers. Just superb. Replacements for the long revered NS10s that are ubiquitous in recording studios. if you dont love the SOBs, ill buy the damn things from you The NS10 ? Has it not some well understod flaws it is not neutral if you could read Swedish I would direct you to some nutty swedes that have suggested an anti ns10 filter to make productions tainted by it more pleasing ;) The NS1000 was very ubiquitous here for a while as SR got them in the radio studios ( some childhood memory of visiting SR studios and seing those beryllium domes for midrange and treble ) -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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the Yamaha HS80m are very, very nice. never been a fan of genelec(too toppy /bright for me) I use the HS80m actives in my living room. I love them. dont give up much to my klein and hummel 0300D at all. -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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cbemoore;357124 Wrote: I'm amazed no-one's mentioned Mackie monitors yet. I've got a set of HR624's, and they're absolutely fantastic. Alternatively, Genelec monitors are almost universally acclaimed, so they've got to be worth an audition Genelec's are unreal . -- jhonsber...@msn.com jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
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active;391421 Wrote: I think the AVI derives from the same school as ATC. My Googling shows up many ATC speaker / AVI amp combinations, and I think the AVI owner is ex-ATC, or vice-versa. Ashley James, one of AVI's directors, was once the sales director for ATC. Some time back, before ATC started producing their own preamps, they routinely recommended AVI preamps and CD players to partner their active speakers (and AVI power amps for their passive speakers) in domestic installations. It was a little bit like the old Linn/Naim partnership. The thing that the two companies seem to have in common is that they are driven by real engineering - there is little or no audiophile marketing spin in their activities. As a result their products, although fairly expensive, are actually superb value for money. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I think the AVI derives from the same school as ATC. My Googling shows up many ATC speaker / AVI amp combinations, and I think the AVI owner is ex-ATC, or vice-versa. The main appeal seems to be that they have the benefit of active technology but in a domestically-acceptable product. All of the others I look at have a very studio finish. Grey and drab. -- active active's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23648 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Thanks for sharing! My vote goes to the Adam A5 for small powered speakers. Class above the Audio Note. -- tricka Transporter +/- Lavry DA 10 - LFD Zero - Harbeth C7 es3's Harbethed and lovin it tricka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11614 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Hi All. First post here.. I have recently replaced my MF XRay CD player BW CDN1T, Audio Lab 8000 pre/power combo and gone the SB/FLACS/Active speaker route. That's my calibration point. I have also enjoyed NAIM of late and was so, so close to going the SuperNait/BW 805s route, also with Squeeze box. (only my wifes prudence, and the thought of our two year old with little cone crunching fingers prevented this) All of a sudden running modestly priced active speakers with minimal wiring/additional remotes/ancilary boxes, became far more appealing. So instead I now run a Tranquil WHS feeding mixture of FLACs and 320s to an SB classic into A2s in kitchen; and a SB Duet into A5s plus a new Velodyne SPL 800 Ultra sub in my lounge. Audiophile quality? Depends on your definition. The sound is very pleasing to most who have auditioned and praised in comparison with my previous set ups. I am experimenting with A5 positioning, toe-in and tilt, but they punch and charm well above their price band in my lounge with a mixture of music genres. The velodyne sub, with built in EQ has integrated very well and 'disappeared' into the music at saem time really adding punch and timbre when appropriate (this box is worth a post on it's own). But, I (plus wife) have been really enjoying listening to music again and rediscovering loads of old stuff, plus new stuff too. 'No-Man' Schoolyard Ghosts, stuns; Led Zepp rocks; Grieg soars; Sinatra croons. Isn't that what it is about? For wife factor, the simple minimal installation of active speakers is a winner - we have cable tidy Q stands, two white A5s, one power lead, and that's it. The Velodyne is sort of discreet, and all leads drop down into celler below through floor boards. The A2s are as described elsewhere -actually very sweet sounding and pleasing. Exceptional value too. Upgrade bug will doubtless call and the AVI 9is seem worth auditioning as do the Dynaudio MC15 active speakers. I may experiment with other DACs. Powered speakers are deffo not just for the near field listening experience or computer games. Audiophile or not, I think they can give many 'true HiFi' component multi-box systems a very good run for the money. And for £200 the Audioengine A5s offer an amazing price/performance proposition that the press reviews hinted at. Thanks for reading. -- turbot fiend turbot fiend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22691 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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swhite58;375061 Wrote: Aren't pro audio powered speakers mostly designed for near field use? They may not work as well in your living room. That has certainly been my experience with them too. -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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swhite58;375061 Wrote: Aren't pro audio powered speakers mostly designed for near field use? Not necessarily. Pro active speakers come in all shapes and sizes. Cheap ones tend to be nearfield, of course - accurate speakers that can fill a room cost proper money. The aforementioned ATC is fundamentally a pro audio company - they were in studios for ages before they branched out into the domestic market. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I second the suggestions for the AVI ADM9.1. Here's an online review: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/avi-adm-9-1-review. Another good option is the Acoustic Energy AE22-04 actives. See here: http://www.acoustic-energy-pro.com/professional-speaker-range/index.asp. I haven't heard them myself, but they've been receiving good reviews in numerous hi-fi magazines. If you are willing the DIY route I can highly recommend the Linkwitz Lab's fully active speakers (see http://www.linkwitzlab.com/). I've built both the Pluto+ and the Orion+ speakers. The Orion+ speakers are the best sounding speakers I've heard in my system so far. -- Jaco Jaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10726 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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There have been a couple of Pro Audio suggestions already - Mackie, DynAudio - and I'd like to second them. I have found that Pro Audio gear provides quality construction, great value, and superb sound (and as a bonus, you get to hear the song just as the recording and mastering engineers heard it). In the value range (comparable to the A2 price) you can consider the Edirol MA-15D powered speakers. At higher prices, consider both the DynAudio and Mackies. If you head over to GearSluts, you'll find a lot of pro recording engineers really like the Adam Audio and Genelec lines, although they are more expensive again. The great thing about Pro Audio is you are paying for sound quality and durability - not aesthetics and voodoo marketing. -- TooSteep TooSteep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16066 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Aren't pro audio powered speakers mostly designed for near field use? They may not work as well in your living room. -- swhite58 Clark Connect Linux file server-Various boxes with flashing lights-SB3-Zhaolu D3 DAC-NAD C320BEE-Usher S-520/Sennheiser headphones swhite58's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5038 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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A common problem -- they sound great on the meter bridge but not in the living room ... you'd usually want at least midfield monitors for that. -- Moonbase Moonbase: 'The Problem Solver' (http://www.kaufen-ist-toll.de/moonbase) Moonbase's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21594 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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pablolie;356146 Wrote: Since we are in a Logitech forum, I'd also like to put a good word in for the http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/home_pc_speakers/devices/231cl=us,en Audiopjile they aren't, but they are very musical PC speakers that sound amazing for their below $200 price tag, and provide very clear sound if one sets the subwoo up right. Logitech is doing very disruptive things. I for one predict that in less than 10 years we will get better sound quality out of DSP controlled power 2.1 systems than we have from our beloved traditional stereo setups, at a fraction of the price. I look at it with a tear in one eye, and great expectations on the other side. It is an exciting time to love music and its delivery through a balanced audio system. Okay now you lost all your credibility. I would never buy a sub/sat POS and expect it to match powered monitors. -- sxr71 sxr71's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Overture (basied in Michigan) do have some US dealers but you have to contact Overture directly for a list -- Mike69 Mike69's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7507 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Since this thread is not specific to a particular price level, I'll add something at the high-end. ATC has been making powered speakers for a long time. Not cheap. They are known for their dome mid-range driver. Low distortion, high power handling without compression. bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I think the fact that Paradigm bailed on this market niche says a lot. They have clearly figured out a way to manufacture quality equipment in North America at a variety of price points. Perhaps they made the push toward active speakers prematurely, but it still really hurts not to have a market leader putting product on the shelves to see, hear and touch. I'm glad someone mentioned ATC here. It would be nice to see them offer some more affordable products (and something a bit smaller in scale) - but as with AVI they're not the easiest things to find for an audition in many parts of North America. -- esbrewer Server: 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac running MacOS 10.5.5 Plugins: Inguz DRC, Sirius Radio, Album Review, SqueezeScrobbler, iPeng Sources: SB3 (2), SB Boom, NAD C542, NAD T515 Amplification: NAD C720BEE Loudspeakers: Paradigm Studio 20 (v.1) Headphones: Grado SR60, Etymotic ER4P http://www.last.fm/user/esbrewer esbrewer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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In best audiophile fashion, the price bracket has been going up. But those AVI ADM look fantastic. I have not been able to find a dealer here in the USA, though? I'd take mine in white. :-) -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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esbrewer;358258 Wrote: It appears AVI will sell direct from the UK worldwide, but I would be reluctant to spend that amount of cash an active system that I can't audition or get serviced easily from here in New England. A very tempting option though. That's my thinking too. I would love to listen to them, and I am quite confident that based on the opinions expressed in here I would get a pair. But I am old fashioned like that - I would like to listen to them somewhere in a shop first, it is part of the ritual. :-) -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I understand that Tom from Overture Imports Imports ADM9.1'S to the US www.overtureimports.com Also AVI would ship them direct -- Mike69 Mike69's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7507 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Many people seem to happy with the performance of these products - but why do so many of them have to be eyesores? I understand that many of them are designed for near-field studio use - but one would think that having attractive products would make the studio a more pleasant place to work. The Audioengine A2s in my daughter's room have beautifully designed and constructed cabinets - but they would be much less conspicuous with grilles - which aren't even offered as an option to the best of by knowledge. I would love to see more loudspeaker manufacturers bring traditional looking, affordable active monitors to the market. I know Paradigm produced an active line years ago that critics seemed to love, but they dropped the line shortly thereafter - presumably due to lackluster sales. Can anyone recommend a line of traditional looking small active monitors - with quality cabinetry and no gaudy lights, switches, etc on the front panel? Couldn't they expand their market a bit by simply offering optional grilles? -- esbrewer Server: 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac running MacOS 10.5.5 Plugins: Inguz DRC, Sirius Radio, Album Review, SqueezeScrobbler, iPeng Sources: SB3 (2), SB Boom, NAD C542, NAD T515 Amplification: NAD C720BEE Loudspeakers: Paradigm Studio 20 (v.1) Headphones: Grado SR60, Etymotic ER4P http://www.last.fm/user/esbrewer esbrewer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Just looked up those AVI ADM9.1s - they seem to be exactly what I'm looking for. Any others that anyone can recommend? -- esbrewer Server: 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac running MacOS 10.5.5 Plugins: Inguz DRC, Sirius Radio, Album Review, SqueezeScrobbler, iPeng Sources: SB3 (2), SB Boom, NAD C542, NAD T515 Amplification: NAD C720BEE Loudspeakers: Paradigm Studio 20 (v.1) Headphones: Grado SR60, Etymotic ER4P http://www.last.fm/user/esbrewer esbrewer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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The small Fostex PM04 is surprisingly good i have them in my kitchen. There are larger models. Look is ok but not more, black box high gloss front with curved edges small green led in front (not a blue one yes ! ). No grilles sorry, I remove these on all speakers i own anyway. Separate power cord to each speaker even in the smallest model ! not the PC speaker variant with amp in one speaker, there is a real psu in each speaker no wallwart or brick very good indeed. http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/music_products/pm_series_mkII.shtml Personally i would like to have Meridian active speakers, i'm saving... -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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pfarrell;357131 Wrote: cbemoore wrote: I'm amazed no-one's mentioned Mackie monitors yet. I've got a set of HR624's, and they're absolutely fantastic. I have a paid of HR828 and they are fantastic. But, they are not cheap, mine were about $1200 for the pair. They are pretty ugly, they are fine for my recording studio, but way too ugly for my wife's approval. And the big thing: they are studio monitors. They aim to reveal what the music sounds like. They do not hide anything with warmth. So its like watching HD TV with an older news anchor, where the age lines and wrinkles that you never saw on regular TV are now clear and easy to see. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ I paid $600.00 (+$250.00 to ship them) for a pair of Meridian DSP-5000's MK-I's and they include internal DACs so you connect the speakers with the digital output of the squeezebox. They have digital crossovers and are internally tri-amped and they look nice to boot :) I didn't pay $600.00 for the pair below but this is similar to what they look like and sound like. http://softronix.com/pictures/dsp5000/IMG_1691.JPG -- mswlogo XP Cat5 Transporter SPDIF Meridian G68 DSP 6000, 5500HC, 33 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian DSP 5000 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian G91 DSP 5000 'Hitch Hikers Guide to Meridian' (http://www.meridianunplugged.com) mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I'm amazed no-one's mentioned Mackie monitors yet. I've got a set of HR624's, and they're absolutely fantastic. Alternatively, Genelec monitors are almost universally acclaimed, so they've got to be worth an audition -- cbemoore cbemoore's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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cbemoore wrote: I'm amazed no-one's mentioned Mackie monitors yet. I've got a set of HR624's, and they're absolutely fantastic. I have a paid of HR828 and they are fantastic. But, they are not cheap, mine were about $1200 for the pair. They are pretty ugly, they are fine for my recording studio, but way too ugly for my wife's approval. And the big thing: they are studio monitors. They aim to reveal what the music sounds like. They do not hide anything with warmth. So its like watching HD TV with an older news anchor, where the age lines and wrinkles that you never saw on regular TV are now clear and easy to see. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I also have a pair of Swans M-200's (based on a recommendation from this forum some time ago). They're serving as bedroom speakers right now, hooked up to a Tivo and an SB2. Sound quality is (IMHO) excellent for the price, and the build quality is also pretty amazing. Highly recommended if you can find a pair (I think they've been discontinued for a while). http://www.swanspeaker.com/product/htm/view.asp?id=3 -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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pfarrell;357131 Wrote: cbemoore wrote: I'm amazed no-one's mentioned Mackie monitors yet. I've got a set of HR624's, and they're absolutely fantastic. I have a paid of HR828 and they are fantastic. ... Original poster: check them out... I have learned over the years to place great trust in Mr Farrell's opinions. *I* am going to check out those speakers, you can count on that. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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bhaagensen;356534 Wrote: might I then attract your attention to e.g. these threads (mixture of A5 and A2 comments): http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54016highlight=audioengine+boom http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51604highlight=audioengine+boom QUOTE] Both threads talk about the A2. The only person to own a pair of A5s was far more inconclusive, his opinion being Compared to the A5s, it comes down to the room size and how much separation is available in the listening position and how far away one is from the listening position. In a small to medium room with a close listening position, the Boom beats the A5s fairly easily. Add a sub-woofer in a medium to large room and the Boom will give the A5s a good run for the money. The key there is close listening position, and in the inlukely case you want to hold your head 2 feet in front of the Boom for extended listening sessions. I also would say that the message above was written with some overenthusiasm around the launch of the Boom, which also saw threads in this very forum stating the Boom was audiophile - in which case the A5 can make easily the same claim. I love the 2 Booms I own, but one -which I unfairly located in a medium sized room, our homegym- benefitted from hooking up a subwoofer (and I am not fan of bass, the subwoofer's volume dial is turned to 1 on a 10-scale) - but there is no way I would have ever considerd the Boom an alternative when I had to move away to an apartment for 1 year and *had* to put together a good system, because I can not live without good music. An SB3 with a pair of A5s kep me company for that year and allowed me to truly thoroughly enjoy my music collection far away from home. It never failed to impress people that lstened to it and allowed them to fully immerse themselves in music. It is true the A5s are a tad boomy with the bass if one does not position them right, but a little too much is always better than decidedly too little, which would the the Booms problem for any serious listening when it comes to bass. As the poster that wrote the one and only comparison with A5s in the 2 threads you provided stated: .. I think it comes down to better sound for less total dollars .. Or let us hear another A5 opinion from a satisfied owner: .. I paid 170 EURO for the set. And at that price I think that it would be, at least difficult, to find a match (active or passive w. amp). Sound quality wise I'd recommend them for all kinds of background music. .. So in the end I'm keeping mine based on a combination of price, planned usage, sound quality. .. Oh, that was you in http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35170 You even went as far as providing a commercial link to a pair of A5s as a tip in the past: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34810 Hm. Obviously something sored you on Audioengines. I find your analysis of the past balanced, by the way - but what you have written in this thread shows that you are indeed irrationally negatively biased for whatever reason. Your personal history with whatever brand is your right, I guess. Back to the original poster: I, and many -included the person that in this thread attacks the A5 solution- can recommend the A5s as a great solution at the price. It is not audiophile, but it comes very close at a price that not too long ago would have been unthinkable. And the Boom does not change that. The Boom is great as a sattelite that sounds clean - but it lacks the depth, stereo separation and bass to provide for long lsitening sessions in front of it, in my opinion. It is great for backgound music, but far more limited for serious dedicated listening than an SB3 with a pair of A5s would be. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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pablolie;356490 Wrote: I own 2 Booms and love them. I frequent the Boom forum. But I have not read one person make such a claim, and truly find it ludicrous. might I then attract your attention to e.g. these threads (mixture of A5 and A2 comments): http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54016highlight=audioengine+boom http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51604highlight=audioengine+boom Now I know you are overstating for effect, I have no idea what AudioEngine has done to you, They used to beat me up with their bass when I was in high-school... but come on, it starts with the stereo separation aspect... I'm not claiming to know the details of how the boom sounds; I do find that the opinions expressed in threads such as those above appear reasonable, especially since I don't find the A5's stereo separation aspect to work particularly well; obviously excepted and included for is the fact that the one can places them further apart. you are clearly biased, sorry. in what direction would that be? -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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pablolie;356621 Wrote: boom blablabla /boom I haven't heard the boom and can only go by what others, including you, are saying. .. I paid 170 EURO for the set. And at that price I think that it would be, at least difficult, to find a match (active or passive w. amp). Sound quality wise I'd recommend them for all kinds of background music. .. So in the end I'm keeping mine based on a combination of price, planned usage, sound quality. .. Oh, that was you in http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35170 In that review I state that they are not even comparable to entry level stereo systems NAD, Denon, BW etc. which is exactly the kind of stuff that the A5 price will get you on the 2. hand marked. In fact I classify them as computer speakers-like stuff, and use wording like mediocre, not up to par, mess up etc. In fact everything I said in that post, almost word by word, is exactly what I've been trying to get thru in this thread. The only thing that's changed is that I have now heard the Fostex 0.4 and they sound better. This proves that its possible to do better; even if you don't believe in getting used gear sold by, in many cases, people just like ourselves. As I stated I paid only 170 euro and kept them based on several parameters, only one of which had to do with sound quality. In other words, a compromise as far as the sound quality parameter is concerned. This would be the kind of compromise I spoke of in my first post in this thread. You even went as far as providing a commercial link to a pair of A5s as a tip in the past: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34810 ... and so what? Hm. Obviously something sored you on Audioengines. I find your analysis of the past balanced, by the way - but what you have written in this thread shows that you are indeed irrationally negatively biased for whatever reason. Your personal history with whatever brand is your right, I guess. If you agree on the stuff I said in that thread, how can you now disagree when I'm saying exactly the same things? I'm not trying to be negative. I'm providing complementary and additional comments to the merits of the A5's. The pros certainly seems well covered, and my posts reflects the cons. That's it. My recommendation on the A5, then and now, is to be interpreted modulo other parameters than sound quality. Anyway, OP I urge you to post if you have questions or opinions that haven't been covered in this thread. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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gsawdy;356467 Wrote: I have two pair of the BM5a's and no hiss at all. Maybe you should check further up the line toward the source or return the speakers. I am curious to know how the Quads compare to the Dyna BM5a's. Can you supply any experiences?...Georg Hi George, Yes I returned the Dynaudios after both the retailer and then Dynaudio themselves, told me the hiss from the tweeters was normal. Apparently it results from having no volume control on the speaker unit (according to Dynaudio). Certainly not happening from anything further up the signal chain. This result was very disappointing to me, as I enjoyed the sound of the Dynaudios very much - but in the end I just cannot stand hiss, it just drives me nuts over time. The Quads have no hiss, and sound very nice indeed - different from the Dynaudios (and much better looking). But neither the Quads nor the Dynaudios can hold a candle to the sound quality of a good set of audiophile speakers with a good separate amp - not even close. Keep the powered monitors when their convenience outweighs the sound quality difference - this is my advice to anybody considering them! :) -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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325xi;356147 Wrote: While I agree on your A5 assessment, I'm not entirely sure that integrated amp you'll be able to get on what's left after Fostex will result in any better sound then of A5. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I was referring to the active Fostex's. The smallest ones are called sometimi like Fostex 0.4 I think. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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bhaagensen;356189 Wrote: The point is that it is a piece of cake to find much better stuff at the same price. ... It took me 5 min. to find the following. A pair of Dali 450 (which are excelent, I have owned a pair), here listed at ~86USD http://www.dba.dk/asp/soegning/detail.asp?annonceid=57302491 .. This is orders of magnitutes better than the A5's, there is no discussing that. Edit: OK so these are big floorstandres, but you can easily find bookshelf format speakers and also a physically smaller amp. We touched a nerve for bhaagensen. We seemed to have blasphemed by using the word audiophile in vain. A pair of big floorstanders for $ 86 is not likely to have rigid cabinets free of audible resonances. If your budget is quite limited, stick with physically small speakers; it is much easier to get an acceptably rigid cabinet when the walls are not large in size. The A5s have very well built cabinets. When you rap them with your knuckles, you don't hear ringing or any flexing in the side walls of the cabinet. That is the sort of thing you pay real money to get in stand mounted monitors. I have 3-way speakers with active crossovers and 6 channels of amplification in my library. They are clearly better than the A5s in most respects but the A5s are still very enjoyable to listen to. ShutterShock, if you like what the A2s provide, you should find the A5s to be even better. If on the other hand, you found the A2s fatally lacking in clarity, imaging, centering, precision, frequency response, tightness in bass etc., then you should definitely consider bhaagensen's $ 86 audiophile speakers. There can be no discussion. If you are willing to spend $ 600 or $ 1000 on speaker + amp (together or separately), you can probably do better than A5s. But not every combination in that price range will be better. Bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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muski;356180 Wrote: What about something from dynaudio accoustics? These are near to mid-field -- maybe big enough to fill a small room: http://www.dynaudioacoustics.com/Default.asp?Id=279 (I am considering a pair of BM 6A MkII for my desktop.) muski I thought the Dynaudio BM5A / BM6A MKII's sounded *great*, but they have no volume control. Ithe end I couldn't live with the hiss they made when powered on (and which unfortunately is audible in the near/mid-field when no music is playing)... -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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NewBuyer;356218 Wrote: I thought the Dynaudio BM5A / BM6A MKII's sounded *great*, but they have no volume control. Ithe end I couldn't live with the hiss they made when powered on (and which unfortunately is audible in the near/mid-field when no music is playing)... Interesting. I was going to connect them to my Transporter/Headphone amp combination. My headphone amp has a balanced preamp out connector, so I could control the volume of the powered speakers (rather than using the Transporter's digital volume control). I have not heard them, but I will keep a critical ear out for the hissing -- that would be a deal-breaker! Thanks for your comment. -- muski Transporter via XLR-Bryston BP26DA-Bryston 4B SST-Wilson Watt Puppy 7s Transporter via XLR-Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp-Balanced AKG701s muski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3670 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Listener;356210 Wrote: We touched a nerve for bhaagensen. We seemed to have blasphemed by using the word audiophile in vain. Not at all, I'm just trying to provide some advice for the OP who wants good room filling speakers in the price range of the A5. If that is the goal, the A5's are not best choice. A pair of big floorstanders for $ 86 is not likely to have rigid cabinets free of audible resonances. If your budget is quite limited, stick with physically small speakers; it is much easier to get an acceptably rigid cabinet when the walls are not large in size. No arguing that. I guess if you're not familiar with Dali, then there is nothing I can do to convince you that they way better than the A5's. But I urge you to check out the second hand market for speakers you might now and like with 5-10 years on their back. You might be surprised at what you can get: Whardales, BW, Dynaudio, Dali, etc. are dirt cheap. The A5s have very well built cabinets. When you rap them with your knuckles, you don't hear ringing or any flexing in the side walls of the cabinet. That's a flawed argument. Yes, if they do shake and rattle they're probably pretty bad. However the opposite case does not give any guarentees about the sound. Of course the manufacturers are aware of this pseudo argument and can easily build cabinents which are sturdy and passes the knuckle test; even I can (almost) do that. the A5s are still very enjoyable to listen to. I never said they weren' t. I think I used the wording pleasant though. bhaagensen's $ 86 audiophile speakers. I never mentioned the word audiophile in relation to the Dali's. And FYI they retailed at ~600USD 6 years ago. OP: If you go ahead and get the A5's I'm sure you might be happy with them. However if you are willing to spend some time and energy listening to systems consisting of an integrated amp + speakers with about 5-10 years on their back, then I am convinced that you can find something that sounds much better than the A5. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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bhaagensen;356231 Wrote: That's a flawed argument. Yes, if they do shake and rattle they're probably pretty bad. However the opposite case does not give any guarentees about the sound. Of course the manufacturers are aware of this pseudo argument and can easily build cabinents which are sturdy and passes the knuckle test; even I can (almost) do that. Your logic is what's flawed. You don't seem to understand the difference between a necessary condition and a sufficient condition. I described one aspect of a speaker' design where the A5s were well done. I did not make a statement that that was the only measure of a good speaker. You never want a cabinet to produce sound separate from what the drivers and ports produce. Making rigid cabinets is the usual way to minimize colorations from cabinets. Minimizing colorations is a necessary condition if you want stuff like clarity, imaging, centering, precision, freqnency response, tightness in bass. Your essential point about the dali speakers and a NAD amp seems to be that you can buy used components for less than they cost new and get more value. A valid point. Bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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NewBuyer;356218 Wrote: Ithe end I couldn't live with the hiss they made when powered on (and which unfortunately is audible in the near/mid-field when no music is playing)... I have two pair of the BM5a's and no hiss at all. Maybe you should check further up the line toward the source or return the speakers. On another note I have listened for a week to the BM6a MkII and I'd suggest if you are going to spend the extra $ over the BM5a that you check out the BM12a. I have not heard them but I was underwhelmed by the BM6a MkII for the extra money--very subtly better than the BM5a but not nearly enough to justify the extra expense. As always, YMMV George -- gsawdy gsawdy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14330 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Pair of these would be nice. http://www.meridian-audio.com/media/13960/dsp5200_c_ds_scr.pdf -- mswlogo XP Cat5 Transporter SPDIF Meridian G68 DSP 6000, 5500HC, 33 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian DSP 5000 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian G91 DSP 5000 'Hitch Hikers Guide to Meridian' (http://www.meridianunplugged.com) 'Thank you Readers digest' (http://www.rd.com/your-america-inspiring-people-and-stories/global-poll-how-the-world-sees-the-2008-election/article102257.html) 'Thank you SNL' (http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/update-thursday-bush-endorsement/783981/) 'Thank you Ron Howard' (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/cc65ed650d) mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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bhaagensen;356189 Wrote: It's not about the A5's being cheap. The point is that it is a piece of cake to find much better stuff at the same price. You might have to go with used stuff, but if sound-quality is the target, then that will be the best solution. ... QUOTE] I agree you can find fantastic audiophile deals in the second hand market. It being a piece of make is a different matter: there are the usual buyer beware's with used equipment, and finding true excellent sounding gear in prime condition is *not* that easy. The A5s provide what the person that posted the original question seems to look for: a simple, straighforward, minimalist solution that provides amazing sound quality for the price. As someone that has sunk a rather silly amount of money into gear, I maintain that back in the days where I was saving my student wages to buy a Denon 1290 or a used Luxman amp - great as that equipment was, I have my doubts the total sound of the solution matched the SB3 + A5 combo, and I had probably paid far more... It is a great time to be an aspiring audiophile - I for one will nod approvingly at anyone that goes for the SB3 + A5 combo, because it sounds better and is a smarter buy than what 95% of people have in their homes... As to used gear - heck yes. But there is also real risk in buying audio gear used... I for one would not spend even $80-something on those Dalis merely based on your word that they ar ein fantastic condition, nor would I trust them to sound better than the A5s without listening to them - which you seem more than willing to do. I am not saying it is not possible, it is probable with the right amp... *if* they are both in very good condition. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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bhaagensen;356192 Wrote: Also search on these very forums for comparisons of the audioengines and the boom. I think you will find that most grade the boom as sounding better. ... I won 2 Booms and love them. I frequent the Boom forum. But I have not read one person make such a claim, and truly find it ludicrous. The Boom is a miracle for packing the typre of ound it does into its price-size-performance package, but anyone that claims it sound sbetter than the SB3+A5 combo needs their ears revoked. Come on, it starts with the stereo separation aspect... -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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as stated often before, the A5s represent one of the most unique audiophile level price-value propositions out there. the sound quality is beyond amazing for a $400 speaker. there are some others out there that are potentially just as great, but they all seem to cost a bit more. the nht M00 wiyth the matching NYT subqoofer also sound very sweep, but the combo runs over $600 and i find it decidedly less musical. and i am not sure what happened to acoustic energey, they had a set called the Aego M that was also mindblwoing at the price, i have it at work. but people who tried buying it these days tell me it's become impossible to find. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I use in my home office driven by a good quality PCI audio card. I mostly listen in the near field (3' away from the speakers.) I sometimes listen from farther away or from the next room. I think they are very enjoyable and a great bargain. Some suggestions: - A5s have a rear port. They need to be at least 4 away from the wall behind them. (More distance might be better. Right now, placing mine 4 from the rear wall is convenient.) Bass will be too heavy and boomy if they are too close to the rear wall. - The left A5 has a volume control on the front and the on-off switch on the back. It is convenient to leave the A5s on and to control volume with the knob on the left A5. - A5s have auto-sensing to let them go into a low power mode after they have been idle for a few minutes. The auto-sensing works better if the input level is high. So set the volume in the source to a high level and use the A5 volume control to reduce the level. - The auto-sensing doesn't work instantly. A fraction of a second of music is not audible when the A5s wait up after being in low-power mode. If this is a show-stopper for you, the A5s may not be the right choice. - Like most speakers, the A5s frequency response varies depending on your position relative to the tweeter axis. be prepared to place them higher or lower to get best results. (or tilt them.) Bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Thanks for your insight and affirmation. Tim -- ShutterShock ShutterShock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Well, since we're in the audiophile forum here we go... The A5's are not audiophile, and not so by far. Why so? Because they don't possess any audiophile characteristics. They fail miserably on stuff like clarity, imaging, centering, precision, freqnency response, tightness in bass etc. Well OK, they can play loud, but only for short periods of time before the thermal protection kicks in. What they are is a competitive compromise. They relatively pleasant to listen to, being a one, OK two box, solution they are quite compact, they're not that ugly, they're not that expensive, and they can play loud and in doing so poor out plenty of bass. However if your going for audiophile you can certainly get better stuff for about the same money. One way to do this is to sacrifice some of the ompf and pure spl. That will put you in the marked for something like the smallest Fostex which are more audiophile, but in many ways not as impressive. Or you could go for something used. For that kind of money you could get some OK bookshelf speakers and an integrated amp which would easily dance around the table with the A5's. Of course its not as compact and used gear in that price range may have some bumps and scratches, but it'll sound better for sure. Or you could get some used active speakers, but where I live those don't seem to come up very often. My 2c etc. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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bhaagensen;356117 Wrote: Well, since we're in the audiophile forum here we go... The A5's are not audiophile, and not so by far. Why so? Because they don't possess any audiophile characteristics. They fail miserably on stuff like clarity, imaging, centering, precision, freqnency response, tightness in bass etc. Well OK, they can play loud, but only for short periods of time before the thermal protection kicks in. QUOTE] I totally disagree. If there is one thing the A5s do NOT do well is to play very loud. They are NOT designed for boy rocker types. I do have an audiophile main system. I can still totally enjoy lsitening to usic on the A5s - they undoubteldy do deliver true audiophile qualities. They do provide good staguing and depth, and very good clarity and transparency. I truly think you are merely allowing their price tag to prevent you from lsitening to them with an open mind. You can obviously not expect to listen to the same quality levels you'd get out of a $7,000-plus and well matched system (heavens know I have listened to more expensive systems that are actually less audiophule than an SB3 hooked up to a pair of A5s, unfortunately). But you are utterly overstating the limitations of the A5, the simply fact is that they do sound like something that 5 years ago would have commanded over 5 times their price tag in an audiophile shop. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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pablolie;355980 Wrote: as stated often before, the A5s represent one of the most unique audiophile level price-value propositions out there. the sound quality is beyond amazing for a $400 speaker. there are some others out there that are potentially just as great, but they all seem to cost a bit more. the nht M00 wiyth the matching NYT subqoofer also sound very sweep, but the combo runs over $600 and i find it decidedly less musical. and i am not sure what happened to acoustic energey, they had a set called the Aego M that was also mindblwoing at the price, i have it at work. but people who tried buying it these days tell me it's become impossible to find. Since we are in a Logitech forum, I'd also like to put a good word in for the http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/home_pc_speakers/devices/231cl=us,en Audiopjile they aren't, but they are very musical PC speakers that sound amazing for their below $200 price tag, and provide very clear sound if one sets the subwoo up right. Logitech is doing very disruptive things. I for one predict that in less than 10 years we will get better sound quality out of DSP controlled power 2.1 systems than we have from our beloved traditional stereo setups, at a fraction of the price. I look at it with a tear in one eye, and great expectations on the other side. It is an exciting time to love music and its delivery through a balanced audio system. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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ShutterShock;355974 Wrote: Any powered speaker recommendations for direct connection from a SB Classic?... Just wondering about room-filling alternatives... For a room filling alternative, you might try a pair of Quad 12L2 Active speakers - 'Here's an audiogon link to a good priced new pair of them.' (http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrmoni1230596425/Quad-12L-Active-monitor-New-bi) I personally haven't found any active monitors yet that are as audiophile as a separate amp/speakers set, but these particular Quads are closer than most IMO... -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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What about something from dynaudio accoustics? These are near to mid-field -- maybe big enough to fill a small room: http://www.dynaudioacoustics.com/Default.asp?Id=279 (I am considering a pair of BM 6A MkII for my desktop.) muski -- muski Transporter via XLR-Bryston BP26DA-Bryston 4B SST-Wilson Watt Puppy 7s Transporter via XLR-Headroom Max Balanced Headphone Amp-Balanced AKG701s muski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3670 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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pablolie;356145 Wrote: I do have an audiophile main system. I can still totally enjoy lsitening to usic on the A5s - they undoubteldy do deliver true audiophile qualities. They do provide good staguing and depth, and very good clarity and transparency. I truly think you are merely allowing their price tag to prevent you from lsitening to them with an open mind. You can obviously not expect to listen to the same quality levels you'd get out of a $7,000-plus and well matched system It's not about the A5's being cheap. The point is that it is a piece of cake to find much better stuff at the same price. You might have to go with used stuff, but if sound-quality is the target, then that will be the best solution. It took me 5 min. to find the following. A pair of Dali 450 (which are excelent, I have owned a pair), here listed at ~86USD http://www.dba.dk/asp/soegning/detail.asp?annonceid=57302491 Pair it with e.g. this NAD 317 here availble at ~170USD and it WILL most certainly beat the crap out of the A5's. http://www.dba.dk/asp/soegning/detail.asp?annonceid=57076692 This is orders of magnitutes better than the A5's, there is no discussing that. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Also search on these very forums for comparisons of the audioengines and the boom. I think you will find that most grade the boom as sounding better. And Its about the same price and does a whole lot more. The audioengines are not anything special sound quality wise. They are nice and competitive as such, but thats it. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
