RE: Yahoo Messanger--Forming a troubleshooting network...???

2000-07-19 Thread Brandon Carroll
 I just set mine up. I hope it's okay to join the network. My Id is CCNP2BE
Brandon Carroll
CCNA, Specialist-ADSL
Verison Communications, formerly GTE

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Re: Post upgrade question...revised

2000-07-19 Thread Henrique Issamu Terada

remove the command service config from your configuration

Henrique Issamu Terada
CPM Comunicações - Brazil
CCNA Certified
- Original Message -
From: Mohamed Abubakkar Siddiqu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: whatshakin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Post upgrade question...revised




 Restart the Router. while booting give a break and goto the ROM monitor
 mode and lode the basic IOS. Check ur configuration.


 regards

 --
 T. Mohamed Abubakkar Siddiqu CCNA





  "whatshakin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello folks,
  I just did an IOS upgrade on a 25xx series router and after it completed
  successfully I get this message on the console.  It looks like the
  IOS is looking for a configuration file of sorts and cannot find it.
   Please explain what it is looking for, and how to make it stop.
 
  Loading network-confg ... [timed out]
 
  Loading cisconet.cfg ... [timed out]
 
  Loading 2520t-confg ... [timed out]
 
  Loading 2520t.cfg ... [timed out]
 
  TIA
 

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Re: Implementing VAN's in production environment.

2000-07-19 Thread Tony Olzak

Jeff,

The best way to do it would be to set up a VTP domain on all the switches
with ISL trunks in between each switch. Set up the routing module or MSFC to
do the inter-VLAN routing on the 6506. When you set up DHCP, you'll need a
helper address on the 6506 routing module that forwards the requests to the
DHCP server. The DHCP server will need a scope for each subnet you plan to
implement. It will lease the proper addresses for each range as long as you
have one subnet per VLAN.

I have done these kinds of setups with 6500s and 4000smany times. If you
need any specific help, or something more in-depth, email me and we'll set
up a phone call.

Tony Olzak, CCNP, MCSE


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 Good morning. Wanted some info on implementing VLAN's from someone who has
 experienced this first hand...

 We currently have Cabletron switches in our network with a couple of Cisco
 routers. We're going to be upgrading to an all Cisco shop with a 6506 at
our
 Core/Distribution (30 NT Servers, 7 subnets in a mixed student faculty
 environment throughout the building) and 4006's in all of our closets (7
 total between 2 floors). We have about 1500 users, with about 500 of those
 being faculty.

 We want to do VLAN's with the 6506 routing between them all. My question
 is what's the easiest way to do this? There will be 2 of us and I'd
like
 to know if I'm going to need to bring another person in temporarily who
has
 done this before. We will be getting the Cisco LMS for NT package as well,
 which I would think has the balls to do this through the browser
interface?
 And I'm assuming we'll have to do this after hours?

 Any input would be much appreciated. I am getting some demo stuff from
Cisco
 to practice on to make sure things roll smoothly. I've also entertained
the
 idea of going from static IP to DHCP but am not to sure how that works
with
 VLAN's.

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RE:

2000-07-19 Thread Roger Wang

Bridge is a layer 2 device.  They will not show up as a "hop" when doing a
traceroute, hence they can't be ping'ed.  Same with ATM switches, or LAN
switches like a Cat5.

HTH,

Rog

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 I am using Bridging between 2 routers connected through T1 but I am unable
 to ping from either side..any ideas ?


 Thanks in advance,

 Sameh



 
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Re: Routers and VLAN

2000-07-19 Thread Tony Olzak

It really comes down to how many hosts you have and the amount of inter-VLAN
traffic you expect. There are also many options to use in increasing
performance, such as:

etherchannel with ISL trunking
multi-layer switching (if the switch and router support it)
sending various VLANs to different routers

It all depends on what you want to do, how your network is set up, what kind
of equipment you have, and how much money you're willing to spend.

Tony Olzak, CCNP, MCSE

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 How many VLAN/sub-int can I effectivly put on an interface. I would like
to
 buy a dedicated router and run my VLAN's off of it. Any suggestions on the
 router or my thinking? Does the DCN class cover these design issues? I'm a
 CCNA, but I have a lot of design ?'s.  Thanks for your help.


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Re: Encapsulation ISL on Ethernet??

2000-07-19 Thread Tony Olzak



It has to be a Fastethernet port.


Tony Olzak, CCNP, MCSE

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  It will be located under the subinterface of a Fast Ethernet 
  Port... I don't have that book, does it say that Ethernet supports 
  ISL?
  
  Johnny
  
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From: 
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Flood 
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 12:21 
PM
Subject: Encapsulation ISL on 
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All,

I am trying to 
configure lab #78: ISL Trunk with Routing between VLAN's, in the "All in one 
CCIE Lab Study Guide" and am unable to find an encapsulation isl command 
available under int e0/0? Can this be done? Or is it more of the errata that 
I have heard about this book?
Thanks, Glenn  
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Re: CCNA 2.0 passing score?

2000-07-19 Thread Hartmut Opfermann

Passing Score is 822
65 Questions
105 Minutes 



On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Tricia Wang wrote:

 Hi,
 Can anyone who had taken the CCNA 2.0 test please tell me what the passing
 score(also time, # of Questions) is? I'm going to write the test in two days
 and would like to know that information.
 
 thanks in advance!
 
 Tricia.
 
 
 
 
 
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CCNP Transcenders ...

2000-07-19 Thread Chris Haller

Any one know of any good Trancender or CBT's for CCNP
2.0 yet ???

=
Chris from Chicago
MasterCNE, 5.x CNE, ICNE, 4.x CNE, CCNA, MCP

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RE:

2000-07-19 Thread Vijay Ramcharan

Not so.  Assign an IP address to an interface and they're perfectly
pingable.

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Bridge is a layer 2 device.  They will not show up as a "hop" when doing a
traceroute, hence they can't be ping'ed.  Same with ATM switches, or LAN
switches like a Cat5.

HTH,

Rog

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 Sameh Badros
 Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 2:19 PM
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 Subject:





 I am using Bridging between 2 routers connected through T1 but I am unable
 to ping from either side..any ideas ?


 Thanks in advance,

 Sameh



 
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RE:

2000-07-19 Thread Roger Wang

That's because you do that intentionally.  You can also assign an IP address
to sc0 on a CAT so you can telnet to it, but it will not show up as a hop as
you ping across the switch to a host on a VLAN connected to that switch.

Rog


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 Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 6:42 PM
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 Not so.  Assign an IP address to an interface and they're perfectly
 pingable.

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 5:24 PM
 To: Sameh Badros; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE:


 Bridge is a layer 2 device.  They will not show up as a "hop" when doing a
 traceroute, hence they can't be ping'ed.  Same with ATM switches, or LAN
 switches like a Cat5.

 HTH,

 Rog

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  I am using Bridging between 2 routers connected through T1 but
 I am unable
  to ping from either side..any ideas ?
 
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Sameh
 
 
 
  
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Re: CCNA passed

2000-07-19 Thread Douglas James Howe

I scored a 934/1000 for the CCNA 2.0 exam...my reward is that I get to take
it again before I graduate since I have over 2 years of college left and
need to keep the certification currentboo hiss.Taking Cisco 3
and 4 at college and by the time I am done with that they will be offering
Cisco 5 through 8 to prepare for the new CCNP exams.  Personally I am still
worried that I won't be able to find a job when I graduate...by then I will
have gone almost 10 years without employment with no networking experience
in my background.


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Re: CCNP Transcenders ...

2000-07-19 Thread kikpasa

www.boson.com

Chris Haller wrote:
 
 Any one know of any good Trancender or CBT's for CCNP
 2.0 yet ???
 
 =
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 MasterCNE, 5.x CNE, ICNE, 4.x CNE, CCNA, MCP
 
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Re: CCNP Transcenders ...

2000-07-19 Thread kikpasa

Go to http://www.boson.com

Chris Haller wrote:
 
 Any one know of any good Trancender or CBT's for CCNP
 2.0 yet ???
 
 =
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Re: CCNP Transcenders ...

2000-07-19 Thread kikpasa

Go to http://www.boson.com

Chris Haller wrote:
 
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 2.0 yet ???
 
 =
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RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit

2000-07-19 Thread jenny . mcleod



If we go right back to the question of 'what problem are you trying to solve' (I
think this has become the official groupstudy motto :-), everything is working
fine except that the dialup link is triggering when it's not supposed to.
So, following the other useful principle of KISS (Keep It Simple, S*), we
shouldn't need to muck around with the routing protocols themselves.  Passive
interfaces and snapshot routing protocols are both (probably) overkill.

How do you specify what brings up the link?  A dialer-list statement.  The
original post didn't show what dialer-list is configured, and I haven't seen any
posts stating the outcome of a 'dialer debug' or 'show dialer' (show dialer when
the call is up will show what triggered the call), but OSPF updates do sound
like a likely candidate for what is triggering the link.

So, assuming that investigation shows that it really is OSPF that's causing the
ISDN to dial, we want the solution that will cause the least side effects -
don't forget that everything else is working fine now.

Making a passive interface or introducing snapshot routing will stop (or at
least change) routing across the dialup link, which could cause other problems.
But if the dialer-list statement excludes OSPF, it won't stop OSPF across the
link, it'll just stop it triggering dialup.

Something like the following should help.  It may need changes depending on what
the existing dialer-list is.

access-list 101 deny   ospf any any
access-list 101 permit ip any any
dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 101

JMcL

-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 20/07/2000 08:49
---


"Ruslan S Tchinyakov" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 19/07/2000 19:12:04

Please respond to "Ruslan S Tchinyakov" [EMAIL PROTECTED]


To:   "'McCallum, Robert'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  "'Ruslan S Tchinyakov'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  "'Olden Pieterse'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  "'Evan You'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:  RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit



Shapshot Routing is for DV protocols only!!
It breaks OSPF and others LS protocols.

Ruslan Tchinyakov,
CCNP+Security, CCDP, MCSE


-Original Message-
From: McCallum, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 12:47 PM
To: 'Ruslan S Tchinyakov'; 'Olden Pieterse'; 'Evan You'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit


Also if you make your interface a passive interface then you will NOT pass
routing updates across the link.  What you should do is Snapshot Routing.
Put in a static route across this line and give it a higher admin distance
i.e. 180.  Then when the primary link fails the static route will takeover
and your backup timers will bring up the link.

-Original Message-
From: Ruslan S Tchinyakov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2000 09:00
To: 'Olden Pieterse'; 'Evan You'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit


In OSPF unlike DV protocols (including EIGRP) the router should have
COMPLETE vision of the network. So distribute-lists and passive interfaces
can breake all routing at once.

Regards, Ruslan Tchinyakov,
CCNP, CCDP,MCSE

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Olden
Pieterse
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:55 PM
To: 'Evan You'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit


Hi there
My 2 cents ...
Try and put passive interface on your bri0 so it doesnt send out routing
updates .
Some updates (routing ???) is bringing up that line .

Hope it helps
Cheers
Olden

-Original Message-
From: Evan You [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 5:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OSPF On Demand Circuit


Hey all,

I have two routers in OSPF Area 0 that have ISDN backup connections from one
to the other.

The ISDN config is working great. When the primary FR link goes down, the
ISDN kicks in instantly and it dies when the primary link goes back up. My
dilemma is that even though the primary FR link is up, the ISDN link goes up
every few minutes.

I've configured EIGRP DDR scenarios and had to use Access-list to control
EIGRP traffic over the BRI interface. Is it the same with OSPF?  What can be
causing the ISDN BRI to go up every few minutes?

The routers are currently running:
OSPF
IP
Frame Relay
And nothing else!

interface BRI0
 ip address 212.1.22.34 255.255.255.240
 encapsulation ppp
 ip ospf cost 200
 ip ospf demand-circuit
 bandwidth 64000
 isdn spid1 x x
 dialer idle-timeout 180
 dialer map ip 212.1.22.33 name R2 broadcast xxx
 dialer hold-queue 75
 dialer-group 1
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap


Thanks,

Evan You - CCNA

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Switch Limitations?

2000-07-19 Thread Felice Russell

Hi I have a question about switch configuration limits- what i have are four
standalone cat 3500xl  with gbic uplinks and one cabletrom MMAC acting as a
backbone. There are two routers- one connected to one network and the MMAC
and the other connecting to one of the cats. There are several hubs hanging
off of the cat 3500 but none of them have hubs daiseychained out- and there
are late collisions showing up on the catalyst. I considered making the
catsa cluster but there are all sorts of crazy protocols running aorund the
network as one of the routers is bridiging things like dec and sna.
ANy ideas? Please help
Thanks
Felice

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Next time you'll get it! WAS: CID Exam Fail

2000-07-19 Thread Chuck Larrieu

First of all, let me say that I feel your pain.

Secondly, let me suggest that now you know. As should everyone on this list.
Do not take this exam for granted. It is not that CID is hard. Or
necessarily tricky. It does require concentration on the LAN and WAN
sections ( half the test ) and how those protocols effect design
considerations. A quarter of the test is TCP. Again., one should review. The
rest of the test is broken up among several areas. It is no wise, in my
opinion, to concede any of them. SNA. Stratacom, Cisco design methodology.

Either the Padjen book or the Birkner book is a good place to start. Each
has weaknesses. Each has strengths. Neither alone is enough to pass, in my
estimation. Print out the exam objectives and use those to fill in the
holes.

Best wishes in your studies.

Chuck


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Subject:CID Exam Fail

I don't know if anyone feels the same regarding this exam but this is quite
simply the hardest exam I have sat so far.  That bad, that I am going on a
course, which will hopefully let me find what I am most obviously lacking.
I failed with 56% (pass mark 65%).  Although only 9% I'm not too comfortable
about only knowing 56% of the material required.

A note to anyone who has sat this exam and the CCIE written, how do they
compare in hardness etc.

Chuck, I know how you feel now.  You really have to give this exam the
utmost of respect.

Cheers

Robert McCallum
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Re: Technical Question

2000-07-19 Thread Xiaoyu Zeng

You can assign those two IP address to the single NIC in the PC, without
adding another NIC.

"Bruce" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 I need some technical advice. We connect customers to our internet service
 over 100 Mbs Ethernet. We assign the customer private IP addresses which
our
 router translates to a public IP. We configure the customer PC's with
these
 private IP addresses. This one particular customer has one PC that
accesses
 a Lotus Notes Server in NY over a point-to-point frame relay connection.
 This connection is provided by ATT and they have a router attached to the
 customers Ethernet hub whichserves as the gateway to this service. The
 router has an IP address of 32.82.221.33  mask 255.255.255.240 and the IP
 address of the one PC that accesses it is 32.82.221.37 mask
255.255.255.240.
 Our router is also attached to their Ethernet hub but it has an IP address
 of 172.16.228.1 mask 255.255.255.0. The customer wants this PC to access
 both routers. If we change the IP address to be in our network it wont be
 able to communicate with ATT's router. I considered using two network
cards
 in the PC, one with the ATT IP address and one with ours. I would have to
 install NT Workstation to make the PC support two network cards. First,
will
 that work and Second, is there another solution besides changing IP
 addresses of the routers.

 Any help would be appreciated.


 Bruce
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ITM CD-ROM

2000-07-19 Thread Dick Silva

Does anyone know how much the cost is for "CISCO's INTERNETWORKING
MULTIMEDIA" CD-ROM ?
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CCNA 2.0 EXAM

2000-07-19 Thread chacko

Hi,

I am planning to take CCNA 2.0 Exam.
Can some one help me.
Which is the best book available in the market?
What  types of questions will be asked and based on which subjects ?
I believe the scoring % is 82.2 for non cisco employees and there will
be
65 questions to be answered in 105 minutes.

Thanks for the help in advance.

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Help!: Lost passwords on a 2621,2501

2000-07-19 Thread rtc

Dear Sirs and Madams:

 We were given a 2621 and 2501 after a Company reorganization. We didn't get
thier passwords,and I am too weary to go through the politics to get
them.I'm not that good at he p word anyway. I would rather hack them for the
entire weekend on my own time.

1. THE CISCO 2621:  The Cisco 2621 was last set up as a Radius/Tactas router
and when it finishes booting, it shows this:

User:

The original owner erased thier division's passwords and we can't get in.


2. THE CISCO 2501  The 2501 finishes the boot process with "Router" on
screen. I can't get ahold of a Flash RAM card/chip until next week. Is there
a way to make it Boot TFTP, and where could I find the procedure?


3. My hope is to configure them to use them in a CCNP type testbed. They
aren't for business use since we use highe end 7513's

Thank you,
Respectfully

Ronald Chou

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Technical Question

2000-07-19 Thread Bruce


I need some technical advice. We connect customers to our internet service
over 100 Mbs Ethernet. We assign the customer private IP addresses which our
router translates to a public IP. We configure the customer PC's with these
private IP addresses. This one particular customer has one PC that accesses
a Lotus Notes Server in NY over a point-to-point frame relay connection.
This connection is provided by ATT and they have a router attached to the
customers Ethernet hub whichserves as the gateway to this service. The
router has an IP address of 32.82.221.33  mask 255.255.255.240 and the IP
address of the one PC that accesses it is 32.82.221.37 mask 255.255.255.240.
Our router is also attached to their Ethernet hub but it has an IP address
of 172.16.228.1 mask 255.255.255.0. The customer wants this PC to access
both routers. If we change the IP address to be in our network it wont be
able to communicate with ATT's router. I considered using two network cards
in the PC, one with the ATT IP address and one with ours. I would have to
install NT Workstation to make the PC support two network cards. First, will
that work and Second, is there another solution besides changing IP
addresses of the routers.

Any help would be appreciated.


Bruce
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What the... Part 3

2000-07-19 Thread Kevin Wigle



well Collin, at least you apologized to list, that 
is something.

for my part, glad I could help you make that 
apology.

Kevin Wigle
the family is fine


Re: What the... Part 3

2000-07-19 Thread Kevin Wigle



as you can tell, I sent this to the wrong 
list.

my apologies

Kevin

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin 
  Wigle 
  To: Cisco 
  Sent: Wednesday, 19 July, 2000 
20:36
  Subject: What the... Part 3
  
  well Collin, at least you apologized to list, 
  that is something.
  
  for my part, glad I could help you make that 
  apology.
  
  Kevin Wigle
  the family is 
fine


Re : Swapping module on a 4500 router

2000-07-19 Thread Alex Lee

Hello group,

My weekend project is to swap out the NP-2T network processor module on my
4500 rotuer with a NP-4T.

Since I Have not done that before, I downloaded the 'Cisco 4500 Hardware
Installation and Maintenance' manual for my reference.

Would the group be kind enough to offer a 'Best Practice' recommendation on
how to proceed ?


Regards,



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Re: ITM CD-ROM

2000-07-19 Thread Brian



I believe it is $50
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Dick Silva wrote:

 Does anyone know how much the cost is for "CISCO's INTERNETWORKING
 MULTIMEDIA" CD-ROM ?
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CCNP BOOKS

2000-07-19 Thread Shivdeep Singh

hi guys
   i passed my CCNA last week,i m bit confused should i
start CCNP2 or CCDA and any tips for finding  an entry level job,can u
name good books for CCNP2

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Re: Help!: Lost passwords on a 2621,2501

2000-07-19 Thread Tony Olzak

Connect to the console port and open the program Hyperterminal Private
Edition. If you do not have this, you can get it at http://www.hilgraeve.com

Reset the 2501 and hit CTRL-BREAK during the boot. Type this at the prompt:

o/r 0x2142
i

The router will now reboot. When the setup dialog box comes up, you can
either accept (which will reconfigure the entire router), or type "no" if
you want to recover the config. If you hit no, type this:

en
config t
config-reg 0x2102
enable secret (whatever password you want goes here)
CTRL-Z
copy start run
copy run start
reload

The router will now restart and you will have the config with your new
password.

The 2621 is a little different. Instead of the o/r command, just use the
config-reg command instead (with the same parameters).


Tony Olzak, CCNP, MCSE


"rtc" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Dear Sirs and Madams:

  We were given a 2621 and 2501 after a Company reorganization. We didn't
get
 thier passwords,and I am too weary to go through the politics to get
 them.I'm not that good at he p word anyway. I would rather hack them for
the
 entire weekend on my own time.

 1. THE CISCO 2621:  The Cisco 2621 was last set up as a Radius/Tactas
router
 and when it finishes booting, it shows this:

 User:

 The original owner erased thier division's passwords and we can't get in.


 2. THE CISCO 2501  The 2501 finishes the boot process with "Router" on
 screen. I can't get ahold of a Flash RAM card/chip until next week. Is
there
 a way to make it Boot TFTP, and where could I find the procedure?


 3. My hope is to configure them to use them in a CCNP type testbed. They
 aren't for business use since we use highe end 7513's

 Thank you,
 Respectfully

 Ronald Chou

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Re: Technical Question

2000-07-19 Thread Tony Olzak

Win9x will support multiple NICs also. I've got two in my machine right
now--one for the cable modem and one to my internal net.


Tony Olzak, CCNP, MCSE


"Bruce" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
8l5ioh$pj9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8l5ioh$pj9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

 I need some technical advice. We connect customers to our internet service
 over 100 Mbs Ethernet. We assign the customer private IP addresses which
our
 router translates to a public IP. We configure the customer PC's with
these
 private IP addresses. This one particular customer has one PC that
accesses
 a Lotus Notes Server in NY over a point-to-point frame relay connection.
 This connection is provided by ATT and they have a router attached to the
 customers Ethernet hub whichserves as the gateway to this service. The
 router has an IP address of 32.82.221.33  mask 255.255.255.240 and the IP
 address of the one PC that accesses it is 32.82.221.37 mask
255.255.255.240.
 Our router is also attached to their Ethernet hub but it has an IP address
 of 172.16.228.1 mask 255.255.255.0. The customer wants this PC to access
 both routers. If we change the IP address to be in our network it wont be
 able to communicate with ATT's router. I considered using two network
cards
 in the PC, one with the ATT IP address and one with ours. I would have to
 install NT Workstation to make the PC support two network cards. First,
will
 that work and Second, is there another solution besides changing IP
 addresses of the routers.

 Any help would be appreciated.


 Bruce
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Re: Switches and VLANs

2000-07-19 Thread Tony Olzak

This one will depend on the model of switch you have. The newer 2900XL and
3500XL have what's called "multi-VLAN" on a port. All broadcast traffic from
every VLAN configured on the interface will flood that port. However, if you
are only using one switch (say in a small implementation), you can use this
config to separate traffic at layer 2 while using a flat layer 3 scheme. For
example, say you have a small company with two departments. One is
engineering and the other is office workers. The engineering department is
VLAN 2 and the other is VLAN 3. Everyone has an IP address in the
192.168.1.XXX range. Using the multi-VLAN function, you can set each port
that has a server to VLANs 2 and 3. This way, each department can
communicate with the servers, but the broadcast traffic is not propagated to
the PCs in each department. You do not need routing to reach the server. To
further segment, you could put all printers in VLAN  4 (with every host
printing to a queue on the server) and include each server in that VLAN as
well. This way, any garbage traffic from print servers (i.e. Jetdirects)
won't get to the rest of your net also. You cannot use "multi-VLAN" and VLAN
trunks on the same switch. Also, spanning-tree has problems if you try to
set up "multi-VLAN" on inter-switch links instead of a trunk.

Multiple VLANs can also exist when using VLAN trunks. These can be either
ISL, 802.1Q, or 802.10. Intel makes a server card that will do ISL so you
don't need to hit the router to get to each server also.


Tony Olzak, CCNP, MCSE


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 We have 24 port switch with 3 VLANs. Can a port exist on 2 VLANs at the
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Re: Technical Question

2000-07-19 Thread Bruce

Please tell me how to assign two IP addresses to a single NIC.



""Xiaoyu Zeng"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 You can assign those two IP address to the single NIC in the PC, without
 adding another NIC.

 "Bruce" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 8l5ioh$pj9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8l5ioh$pj9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 
  I need some technical advice. We connect customers to our internet
service
  over 100 Mbs Ethernet. We assign the customer private IP addresses which
 our
  router translates to a public IP. We configure the customer PC's with
 these
  private IP addresses. This one particular customer has one PC that
 accesses
  a Lotus Notes Server in NY over a point-to-point frame relay connection.
  This connection is provided by ATT and they have a router attached to
the
  customers Ethernet hub whichserves as the gateway to this service.
The
  router has an IP address of 32.82.221.33  mask 255.255.255.240 and the
IP
  address of the one PC that accesses it is 32.82.221.37 mask
 255.255.255.240.
  Our router is also attached to their Ethernet hub but it has an IP
address
  of 172.16.228.1 mask 255.255.255.0. The customer wants this PC to access
  both routers. If we change the IP address to be in our network it wont
be
  able to communicate with ATT's router. I considered using two network
 cards
  in the PC, one with the ATT IP address and one with ours. I would have
to
  install NT Workstation to make the PC support two network cards. First,
 will
  that work and Second, is there another solution besides changing IP
  addresses of the routers.
 
  Any help would be appreciated.
 
 
  Bruce
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: Internet Access

2000-07-19 Thread Oz

Just have  about 50 users all hitting the internet at the same time they
will get the idea.. ( grin)
 if you do the math  128 K  divided by 500 aint ,much at all .
 But
 How many folks DO use the internet,
 how much time per day  do they surf ?
 How much stuff do you cache with a proxy server /
What are they doing on the internet ?
Corp to corp data transfer, email ,  ???
 the easiest way  if the net is part of their job  is to show how much time
is wasted waiting  to access pages   etc
this can create a good  ROI argument .
 I guess one way would be to random sample  10 users,
 Dump their  browser cache  and monitor it for size at the end of each day.
 then if each user get say 2 meg of temp files on the cache  you can make
some projections from that.
 Sure thats not really super accurate  but it will give you an idea ..
Also you may want to look into local caching if they hit  a lot of the same
sites all the time..
 Also if you have proxy server that can give you a lot of info too.
the magic #  really depends on what kind of performance .
if you want a deal like everyone can get average performance at any given
time Guaranteed then use say 5k per user.
this way you would have  close to 56k modem dialup speed.
And if less people are on the performance will increase guess you need the
corp to define a QOS level and go from there.
 I can tell you that I have been on site with 40 users and 56 k lease line
and it's pretty ugly surfing the net.,  heh
Oz
http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm
I would like to get some ideas on how to tackle one customer. One
company having 500 users accessing to the internet with 128K bandwidth.
Is this sufficient enough or if it is not how to come out with good
answer to convince the customer

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Re: Internet Access

2000-07-19 Thread Brian


Is that 500 simultaneous users or just 500 users?  Whats important is how
many are able to be on at a time, and the bandwidth/services these
customers use.  With only 128k, this doesn't sound good any way you slice
it.

On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Saravanan Belusami wrote:

 Hai,
 
 I would like to get some ideas on how to tackle one customer. One
 company having 500 users accessing to the internet with 128K bandwidth.
 Is this sufficient enough or if it is not how to come out with good
 answer to convince the customer.
 
 --
 Regards
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   Network Engineer2nd Floor Kelana Parkview
   COINS ProjectNo.1 Jalan SS6/2
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Re: Looking for a used ACRC book

2000-07-19 Thread sean lynch

Try the half.com web site, I bought a used cisco press CCDA book today for
half price (sometimes you can even go cheaper..  and sell off what you no
longer need)


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Thanks !!!
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Another cisco gold partner!

2000-07-19 Thread rucha

Hi:
 Congratulations!Our company has become cisco's fifth gold partner in
 China mainland!
 company name:Shanghai Perfectway Tech Ltd
 Address:18F,138# Huaihai zhong Road shanghai
 Tel:086-021-63756111

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RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN

2000-07-19 Thread cv . perez



I passed it also last WE. Add with it VLSM which takes 3/4 of the last one.

Any feedbacks about the Switching 2.0 exam?

cvp




Dennis Laganiere [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/19/2000 03:04:55 AM

Please respond to Dennis Laganiere [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   "'Eddie O Leary (EEI)'" [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Subject:  RE: ACRC Vs. BSCN



Bridging, IPX, Appletalk, remote access and ISDN have been dropped.  Focus
on BGP, OSPF, EIGRP for three quarters of the test.  I passed it last week,
so I know you can do it.  :-)
 - Dennis

-Original Message-
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To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: ACRC Vs. BSCN


A Chairde,
  Are there big differences in these exams , or are based on
same lines I.E OSPF,EIGRP,ISDN Etc.


  Slan / Ed

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Re: documentation CD on windows 2000

2000-07-19 Thread Bharat Suneja

Welcome to the Club!! I did not get mine working even after using
information posted on this group - the changes in Registry hopefully
Cisco should be working on it... but it's really amazing to find that Cisco
documentation CDs are not Windows 2000 / IE5 compatible.. :-)

Bharat Suneja

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 Does anyone have problems with documentation CD on
 windows 2000? It doesn't work on my computers.
 Thanks in advance.

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Re: Multichannel E1 PA for 7206VXR

2000-07-19 Thread UFUK YASIBEYLI




Hello,

"channel-group 0 unframed" command allows E1 PA
to work at 2Mbps clear-channel.
If your link is connected to a TDM device at the Telco side,
you need to use "time-slots" command. In this case, you
can use a maximum of 31 ds0 channels and 31x64K=1984Kbps.
(timeslot 0 is reserved for framing and I assume ts16 is used for data
communication and CCS or CAS is not used)

If your link is connected to an SDH (or PDH) device (or more specifically
a G.703 interface device) at the Telco side, then you can use "unframed" command
and utilize all available 2048Kbps link.

To visualize, I would consider SDH, a lower level transmission network, and TDM,
a transmission
network on top of SDH which adds a value (like ds0 multiplexing).
"unframed" is a G.703 only transmission and "timeslotted" or "framed" is a G.704
transmission on top of G.703. ( And to extend, DWDM is a lower level
transmission than SDH )

I hope this info will clarify a bit .

Best regards,

Ufuk Yasibeyli







"lee" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 18.07.2000 19:18:24

Department:

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Subject:  Multichannel E1 PA for 7206VXR




Hi all, has anyone configure Multichannel E1 PA for 7200 VXR before ??? I
have some question for the configuration, basically I have done an
implementation of this PA for a customer. I managed to make it work, my
customer has a E1 leased line to an upstream ISP. I configure the controller
with 'channel-group 0 timeslots 1-31'. Then, the link is up and running. Can
someone tell me what is 'channel-group 0 unframed' doing ??? what is the
different between my existing command line  'channel-group 0 unframed' ???

Thanks in advance.

regards,
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CCIE PREP SCHOOL

2000-07-19 Thread olubunmi Isinkaye

Good morning All!

A friend who hasjust passed his last paper As CCNP wants a
good school where he can learn  practice and prepare for
the ccie exams extensively abroad (preferrably US, Canada
orEurope and at least for  3--5 months). 

currently he is in Nigeria . He has little practical
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RE: Windows based sniffer

2000-07-19 Thread Dinesh_Kakkar

Try LanGuard its available here 

http://nww1.com/go/1454550a.html 

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 12:54 PM
 To:   Oscar Rau; Cisco GroupStudy
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 On Dec 5,  3:23am, Oscar Rau wrote:
 } 
 } I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about Network
 Generals
 } sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the URL, would
 you please
 } pass it on to me? If there other good sniffer products please let me
 know.
 
  It would be helpful if you specified the features you needed.
 However, for simple packet capture and decoding, I generally use
 WinDump, which is a port of tcpdump from UNIX.  You can find it at:
 
 http://netgroup-serv.polito.it/windump/
 
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Re: Windows based sniffer

2000-07-19 Thread John Nemeth

On Dec 5,  3:23am, Oscar Rau wrote:
} 
} I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about Network Generals
} sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the URL, would you please
} pass it on to me? If there other good sniffer products please let me know.

 It would be helpful if you specified the features you needed.
However, for simple packet capture and decoding, I generally use
WinDump, which is a port of tcpdump from UNIX.  You can find it at:

http://netgroup-serv.polito.it/windump/

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Anout the VPN Client

2000-07-19 Thread rucha

Hello cisco,

  Can anybody tell me what's means the VPN client License,cisco says
  that the "VPN-SW-DES-100=" can support 100 users.And I don't know
  how to use this license,what's the software can install the licese?
  If I have use the cisco 26XX to build to VPN Network,and I must buy
  the VPN Client softwareLicense?!
  Thanks!


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Remote Dial Scenario

2000-07-19 Thread Mark Vicuna

Hi All,

Wondering if someone can give me some input on a particular remote dial
scenario...

A router is configured as the 2509 in the following Cookbook scenario.  A
terminal adapter (connected to S0) is used to dial out.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/793/access_dial/pppmultilink.html

I did not use ppp direction callout | callin.

The debug dialer output is as follows:

#debug dialer
Dial on demand events debugging is on
#term mon
#
.Jul 19 03:03:41 UTC: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0, changed state to down
.Jul 19 03:03:47 UTC: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0, changed state to up
.Jul 19 03:03:47 UTC: Serial0: Dialer received incoming call from unknown

Can someone please explain the last line in the debug message..  Why s0 sees an
incoming
call coming from the TA?  (when callback is not configured)


Thanks,
Mark


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RE: Frame-relay traffic shaping question

2000-07-19 Thread Ruslan S Tchinyakov

In VoIPoFR (not good implementation- but in my
situation VoFR was much worse)- we tried both,
but finally used FRTS- we needed FRF.12 fragmentation and
some other things. But you should evaluate at your own-
weght all pros and contras- values and restrictions (RSVP, queuenig, your VC
structure and so on).

Regards, Ruslan Tchinyakov.

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Alexandre Eduardo Garcia
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Subject: Re: Frame-relay traffic shaping question


Has anyone used Generic Traffic Shaping for Frame-Relay?

The GTS permits the use of Weigh Fair Queue (the FRTS doesn't).

I would like to know if GTS works as good as FRTS.

Regards,

Alex
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Assunto: Re: Frame-relay traffic shaping question


 The easiest way to do this is to only configure the CIR and Line speeds
and
 let the rest default.

 Example commands -

 int s0
 frame-relay traffic shapping Enable FRTS on the interface
 frame-relay class ExampleClass   Shape as defined in map class

 frame-relay map-class ExampleClass
 frame-relay traffic-rate XXX YYY   ### XXX = CIR, YYY = Max Speed
 traffic-rate adaptive-shaping becn  Use BECNs (not foresight)
  for for thottling


   If you set XXX to 512K and YYY to port speed, he will transmit at port
 speed unless he receives BECNs from the network, and then he will throttle
 down to 512K.
   If you set both XXX and YYY to 512K he will always transmit at 512K

   Depending on your service provider and how congested their network is
you
 may be able to go in and buy a small CIR like 64K and then ignore that and
 have your router set to send at 512K.  If you do that and some time in
 future your SP starts dropping packets (because they are over CIR) you
will
 have to go to them and buy up your contracted CIR, but until then you can
 save some money.  We've been running ATT Frame Relay for a couple of
years
 and have yet to receive a single BECN.

   It is possible to go in and specify mincir, Bc, Be, etc.  But unless you
 are going VOFR or some other application that has specific needs using
 generic FRTS will cover just about everything.

   Hope that helps,
 Mike


 Guys,
 
 What are the parameters that I should configure on the router to control
 the
 bandwidth usage of the user on a frame-relay configuration.
 For instance, the user has T1 line and I need to provide him only 512k.
Is
 it the CIR, BE, BC, MINCIR, and traffic rate only ?
 and how do I calculate them ?
 
 Thanks a lot
 ME

 
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RE: Windows based sniffer

2000-07-19 Thread cv . perez



I don't understand the name of the Web server?!

cvp





Dinesh_Kakkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/19/2000 04:31:23 PM

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Try LanGuard its available here

http://nww1.com/go/1454550a.html

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 }
 } I am looking for a good windows based sniffer. I heard about Network
 Generals
 } sniffer but I could not find the link to it. If you have the URL, would
 you please
 } pass it on to me? If there other good sniffer products please let me
 know.

  It would be helpful if you specified the features you needed.
 However, for simple packet capture and decoding, I generally use
 WinDump, which is a port of tcpdump from UNIX.  You can find it at:

 http://netgroup-serv.polito.it/windump/

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IP SUBNET-ZERO

2000-07-19 Thread Gert Jan

Hi all,

What is the best way to determine if an ip/subnet is an ip subnet-zero
address?

Thanks,
Peter




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Routers for Sale

2000-07-19 Thread Robert de Groot



Have a 2501 and a 2514 for sale. 
IOS 11.3.
DCE/DTE serial cable.
Additional hardware.
Additional copy of IOS 11.3 on original 
CD.
Asking $2500.00 Canadian.

Robert de Groot
MCSE CCNA CNA


RE: Frame-relay multipoint configuration DLCIs

2000-07-19 Thread Ruslan S Tchinyakov

Really bu default both interface and subunterface are multipoint-
so don'be confused with number of DLCIs-
just remember about reachabelity issues- you'd have
SINGLE LIS (logical ip subnet)- so if you use classless aproach or VLSM-
think on yor routing protocol carefully- put attention on split-horizon and
summarization issues!
 Then remember on maps- thay need to establish full mesh
if you have a lot of money to buy VCs and want everything works ok.
So let's read Caslows famous book- one chapter is completely dedicated to
your question-
"To map or not to map".

Ruslan Tchinyakov,
CCNP+Security, CCDP, MCSE


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lay
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Frame-relay multipoint configuration  DLCIs


Guys,

This time I have a question regarding mulipoint FR configuration.
Her is the concern:
int s 0/0.1
ip address 1.1.1.1 255.0.0.0
frame-relay map ip 2.2.2.2 200 broadcast
frame-relay map ip 3.3.3.3 300 broadcast

Is this configuration means that there are two PVCs from this source to two
destinations(2.2.2.2  3.3.3.3)?. How come a single interface (s0/0.1) can
have two DLCIs (200  300)?

Or should I configure it this way

int s 0/0.1
ip address 1.1.1.1 255.0.0.0
frame-relay map ip 2.2.2.2 200 broadcast
int s 0/0.2
ip address 1.1.1.2 255.0.0.0
frame-relay map ip 3.3.3.3 300 broadcast

I am trying to understand the benefit of the multipoint configuration.
Could someone clairfy this

Thanks
I need to finish FR to start ISDN !






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RE: FECN/BECN..

2000-07-19 Thread Ruslan S Tchinyakov



You'll receive it when your nearest FR-switch 
fells itself overloaded.
So in most cases it doesn't regard CIR or 
EIR-
imagine ofet-used oversubscription (here, in 
Russia was a good style to configure
All-Zero CIR for cheap price)- then with high 
probabylity FR switch is overloaded- but you
personally bursting under you CIR in average- 
but you receive BECNs or FECNs.
Then expand situation - so all transit switches 
can initiate BECNs/FECNs- youll never
know the cause- the overall assumpion is "some 
moderate to high traffic somwhere"
This is FR nature- NOTHING 
GUARANTEED.


Ruslan Tchinyakov,
CCNP+Security, CCDP, 
MCSE

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  KachaliaSent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 11:41 PMTo: 
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  Hello Friends..
  
   When will I get FECN/BECN 
  message? will i receive when I crossed my CIR or when I cross my Excess 
  Burst??
  
  thanks
  rahul.


RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit

2000-07-19 Thread McCallum, Robert

Also if you make your interface a passive interface then you will NOT pass
routing updates across the link.  What you should do is Snapshot Routing.
Put in a static route across this line and give it a higher admin distance
i.e. 180.  Then when the primary link fails the static route will takeover
and your backup timers will bring up the link.

-Original Message-
From: Ruslan S Tchinyakov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2000 09:00
To: 'Olden Pieterse'; 'Evan You'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit


In OSPF unlike DV protocols (including EIGRP) the router should have
COMPLETE vision of the network. So distribute-lists and passive interfaces
can breake all routing at once.

Regards, Ruslan Tchinyakov,
CCNP, CCDP,MCSE

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Olden
Pieterse
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:55 PM
To: 'Evan You'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit


Hi there
My 2 cents ...
Try and put passive interface on your bri0 so it doesnt send out routing
updates .
Some updates (routing ???) is bringing up that line .

Hope it helps
Cheers
Olden

-Original Message-
From: Evan You [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 5:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OSPF On Demand Circuit


Hey all,

I have two routers in OSPF Area 0 that have ISDN backup connections from one
to the other.

The ISDN config is working great. When the primary FR link goes down, the
ISDN kicks in instantly and it dies when the primary link goes back up. My
dilemma is that even though the primary FR link is up, the ISDN link goes up
every few minutes.

I've configured EIGRP DDR scenarios and had to use Access-list to control
EIGRP traffic over the BRI interface. Is it the same with OSPF?  What can be
causing the ISDN BRI to go up every few minutes?

The routers are currently running:
OSPF
IP
Frame Relay
And nothing else!

interface BRI0
 ip address 212.1.22.34 255.255.255.240
 encapsulation ppp
 ip ospf cost 200
 ip ospf demand-circuit
 bandwidth 64000
 isdn spid1 x x
 dialer idle-timeout 180
 dialer map ip 212.1.22.33 name R2 broadcast xxx
 dialer hold-queue 75
 dialer-group 1
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap


Thanks,

Evan You - CCNA

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RE: Deferred Packets

2000-07-19 Thread Ruslan S Tchinyakov

Packets are counted to be deferred are due to
15 successive collisions to happen after first send attempt-
the CSMA/CD algorythm version used propose the cut of the back off
algorythm on the 16th attempt (first 10 attempts the timeout (ralli- the RND
function multiplier) is doubled each time-
up to 2^10=1024 times initial, then 5 attempts fixed- then drop the packet
(s)- count them as deferred
and go to start)- so this implies some not well-uderstood  by many readers
Ethernet limitations-
such as summary number of 1024 nodes in collision domain and so on.


Ruslan Tchinyakov,
CCNP+Security, CCDP, MCSE


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Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 5:52 AM
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Subject: Re: Deferred Packets


On Nov 3,  5:28am, Erick wrote:
}
}  On a 10-half ethernet connection between two
}  routers, we are seeing deferred
}  packets happening as well as the normal usual
}  collisions. Are deferred
}  packets just normal as well? Is it expected in
}  ethernet media? Thanks in

 Yes, it is normal and expected.  However, too many, would be an
indication of an overloaded segment.  I'm not totally sure what
constitutes "too many".

} Defered packets occur when the ethernet is too busy
} and the interface can't put the packet out on the
} wire, so the packet is dropped. This is normal. I

 Bzzt, wrong!  The packet isn't dropped, it's held and transmitted
when the wire is free.

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CCNA 2.0 passing score?

2000-07-19 Thread Tricia Wang

Hi,
Can anyone who had taken the CCNA 2.0 test please tell me what the passing
score(also time, # of Questions) is? I'm going to write the test in two days
and would like to know that information.

thanks in advance!

Tricia.





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RE: documentation CD on windows 2000

2000-07-19 Thread Ruslan S Tchinyakov

I think a lot of peole faced thi same problem-
here's the solution-
thanks to those gurus from CCIE-Lab list.

Ruslan Tchinyakov,
CCNP+Security, CCDP, MCSE



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rocketmail
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 8:23 AM
To: Eugene Nestereno; John Garrett
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Subject: Re: OFF Topic: How to get Documentation CD Working with Wind


Start regedit.

Go to key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/IE4/Setup/Path

Change it's value from "%programfiles%\Internet Explorer" to "C:\Program
Files\Internet Explorer" (without the quotes) or wherever you have Internet
Explorer installed.

 reinstall the DocuCD

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Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 3:26 AM
Subject: Re: OFF Topic: How to get Documentation CD Working with Wind


 John,

 If you want to use DOC-CD with Windows 2000 you can do the following.
 Copy all the stuff to some place on the hard disk.
 Expand all the stuff with gzip (in all directories of course).
 Use any browser to read contents.

 BTW, I used that to use documentation on my Portege 300CT without any CD.

 The drawback - no search. For my opinion not so useful anywhere.


 Regards,

   Eugene

 --
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 Fax/VoiceMail: (415) 7043497


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 Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 10:37 PM
 Subject: Re: OFF Topic: How to get Documentation CD Working with Wind


  I opened a TAC case for this awhile back.
 
  The DOC cd does not work with 2000 and they could give me no date as to
 when it
  would work.
 
  If any of the cisco dudes (or dudettes) on the list want to check it
out,
 case
  # is A203099.   According to this case, I will be contacted when it will
 work
  on Win2000, and I have not been contacted yet.
 
  John Garrett
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  Please respond to
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/P=BAYER/A=TELEMAIL/C=US"
 @
  X400
  To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]/P=Internet/A= /C=us"@X400
  cc:
 
  Subject: OFF Topic: How to get Documentation CD Working with Windows
 
  I can not get the Doc CD working with Windows 2000 Server the Verity
 Server
  never seems to start. If I try and browse the HTML I get garbage I guess
 it
  is compressed/indexed via the verity server ?
 
  Regards,
  Kevin
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Bond
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 5:02 AM
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Subject: documentation CD on windows 2000


Hello,

Does anyone have problems with documentation CD on
windows 2000? It doesn't work on my computers.
Thanks in advance.

Jim

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Cisco Passwords !!!

2000-07-19 Thread Raees Ahmed Shaikh
Title: Cisco Passwords !!!






Is there a way to know all the passwords stored on all the routers in an enterprise network from one single console command on the root router.

Thanks in advance.


Shaikh Raees,
MCSE, CCNA, SE
Toyota ALj,
SA





RE: Switching 2.0 module

2000-07-19 Thread Ruslan S Tchinyakov

I passed it-
yes? it enhanced- instead of memorizing a lot of obsolte stuff on
2800 and 3100 series CPUs, memory  other
you'd know on Cisco positioning of new 3500, 4000, 6000 and 8500 series in
the network,
and also study MPLS theory and commands.
Also pay attention for VLANs and especially trunking scenarios-
they can be rether not so simple as you can imagine,

Ruslan Tchinyakov,
CCNP+Security, CCDP, MCSE


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Does anyone have some more detailed information about the Switching 2.0
exam?
seems to be really different from the clsc exam but how much?

cvp
ccna


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Re: IP SUBNET-ZERO

2000-07-19 Thread cv . perez



Strongly discouraged as all ones ip-subnet. Otherwise, you'd refer to the
classfull address.

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RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit

2000-07-19 Thread Ruslan S Tchinyakov

Shapshot Routing is for DV protocols only!!
It breaks OSPF and others LS protocols.

Ruslan Tchinyakov,
CCNP+Security, CCDP, MCSE


-Original Message-
From: McCallum, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 12:47 PM
To: 'Ruslan S Tchinyakov'; 'Olden Pieterse'; 'Evan You'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit


Also if you make your interface a passive interface then you will NOT pass
routing updates across the link.  What you should do is Snapshot Routing.
Put in a static route across this line and give it a higher admin distance
i.e. 180.  Then when the primary link fails the static route will takeover
and your backup timers will bring up the link.

-Original Message-
From: Ruslan S Tchinyakov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2000 09:00
To: 'Olden Pieterse'; 'Evan You'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit


In OSPF unlike DV protocols (including EIGRP) the router should have
COMPLETE vision of the network. So distribute-lists and passive interfaces
can breake all routing at once.

Regards, Ruslan Tchinyakov,
CCNP, CCDP,MCSE

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Olden
Pieterse
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:55 PM
To: 'Evan You'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit


Hi there
My 2 cents ...
Try and put passive interface on your bri0 so it doesnt send out routing
updates .
Some updates (routing ???) is bringing up that line .

Hope it helps
Cheers
Olden

-Original Message-
From: Evan You [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 5:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OSPF On Demand Circuit


Hey all,

I have two routers in OSPF Area 0 that have ISDN backup connections from one
to the other.

The ISDN config is working great. When the primary FR link goes down, the
ISDN kicks in instantly and it dies when the primary link goes back up. My
dilemma is that even though the primary FR link is up, the ISDN link goes up
every few minutes.

I've configured EIGRP DDR scenarios and had to use Access-list to control
EIGRP traffic over the BRI interface. Is it the same with OSPF?  What can be
causing the ISDN BRI to go up every few minutes?

The routers are currently running:
OSPF
IP
Frame Relay
And nothing else!

interface BRI0
 ip address 212.1.22.34 255.255.255.240
 encapsulation ppp
 ip ospf cost 200
 ip ospf demand-circuit
 bandwidth 64000
 isdn spid1 x x
 dialer idle-timeout 180
 dialer map ip 212.1.22.33 name R2 broadcast xxx
 dialer hold-queue 75
 dialer-group 1
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap


Thanks,

Evan You - CCNA

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Does the comp.dcom.sys.cisco down?

2000-07-19 Thread rucha

Hello cisco,

  I can not access this area.Anybody is using it correctly?
  

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Re: IP SUBNET-ZERO

2000-07-19 Thread Mark Vicuna

Check the IP address to see if it falls on a network boundary.. eg.

192.168.1.16 with 28 bit mask
192.168.1.32 with 28 bit mask
150.49.5.136 with 30 bit mask

of course assuming ip subnet-zero command is used.. you will not get the "bad
mask" error..





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Hi all,

What is the best way to determine if an ip/subnet is an ip subnet-zero
address?

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Re: CCNA 2.0 passing score?

2000-07-19 Thread cv . perez



822

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BSCN exam

2000-07-19 Thread Roland Van Mulders

hello,

Does anyone have some more detailed information about the BSCN exam?
it seems to be really different from that ACRC exam but how much?

What are the number of question, passing score, are there lots of fill in
questions, what do it focuse on ?

regards
Roland


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D-channel callback

2000-07-19 Thread Molendijk, Henk

Hello all,

I want to enable D-channel callback (Euro-ISDN = NET2) from a 1600 series to
a 2600 series for using Batched SMTP.
How is Cisco deals with this ?
Does such a config needs additional settings ?

Regards,

Henk Molendijk

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Re: ISDN Simulation via IOS

2000-07-19 Thread Phil Barker

David,

I have heard the same rumours but cannot confirm
unfortunately.

Phil.
--- "Luong, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi
Folks:
 
 I have heard rumours that there is a way or a
 build-in function in IOS 12.1
 release that lets you simulate ISDN calls? Can
 someone confirm this
 information as I just surf CCO and 12.1 does not
 mention anything about
 that..maybe I heard wrong and it's slated for a
 future deployment
 release? Thanks..
 
 David Luong
 CCNP,CCNA,Network+,A+,i-Net+
 Telecommunications Analyst
 Insurance Corporation of B.C.
 Vancouver, B.C CANADA
 
 

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bcran looms

2000-07-19 Thread Patrick Duggan

Sorry for posting yet another exam info queston, but as yet the BCRAN
archive is limited.  
I have this exam Fri, as yet i don't know:- no of questions, duration,
format i.e. marking 
capability etc. Anybody out there help? Also positive i will slip, slide and
sweat on this but that is another story :-) thanks
Pat

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MCIS Mail

2000-07-19 Thread Ref



Dear all,

I'm sorry to bring this subject to this great list. 
Do someone knows about a specialized mailing list that discusses MCIS operation 
thoroughly?

Best regards to you all,

Ref


Re: Translating SNA to TCP/IP

2000-07-19 Thread Paulo Roque

Edward Solomon wrote:
 
   We have here a mainframe that speaks SNA and TCP/IP. We are migrating
   some applications to SUN machines that do not speak SNA. We'd like to
   migrated the existing SNA links to routers. Is it possible to translate
   SNA to TCP/IP and vice versa using a router as a gateway? Has anyone
   ever seem this?
 
  Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not CCIE certified yet.  But yes, Its
  being used all over the world. Mainframes was save from being
  extinct because cisco came up a way to network sna traffic with ethernet
  traffic. Source route translational bridge (SRTB) has to be configure on
  the router.  SRTB is a combination of transparant bridging and source
  routing bridging. Ethernet uses transparant bridging because the
  network is transparant to the end users. Mainframes  run only on
  token-ring networks so it only uses source-route bridging.  So therefore,
  SRTB needs to be in effect.
 
 Firstly, it is possible to migrate networks such that IP clients are able to
 talk to a mainframe talking SNA. The ONLY method of doing this is to use
 TN3270 server, which, in the Cisco world, runs either on the Channel Port
 Adapter (CPA) or the Channel Interface Processor (CIP). There are many other
 benefits to using a CPA or CIP in the 7000 series routers, although nowadays
 both IBM and Cisco are recommending the approach of using OSA Express
 adapters in the S/390 and running TCP/IP directly on the S/390.


Paulo Roque again:

Our problem is: we have a big customer which only use SNA and we must to
connect this customer to a TCP/IP server. We need a solution, preferably
on a cisco router, that connect this SNA customer in a TCP/IP server.

Thanks.
-- 
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CREA/MG 66089/D
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MCIS Mail

2000-07-19 Thread Ref




Dear all,

I'm sorry to bring this subject to this great list. 
Do someone knows about a specialized mailing list that discusses MCIS operation 
thoroughly?

Best regards to you all,

Ref


Re: BSCN

2000-07-19 Thread Roman

There are no 'BSCN' books yet - not until August.  If you want to study for
it now, just start reading anything you can get your hands on in reference
to OSPF, EIGRP, BGP, VLSM, and Routing TCP/IP effectively.  As far
as practice tests, check out www.boson.com.

Roman


At 04:51 PM 7/18/00 +0200, you wrote:

hi guys,

I have just passed my CCNA ver 2.0, last week. Now i am preparing the BSCN
(Building Scalable Cisco Networks) ver 1.0.

Is there somebody who can tell me where I can find some books about BSCN and
some samples
questions in order to learn more easily that exam.

thank you.


Roland Van Mulders


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Re: D-channel callback

2000-07-19 Thread Tapani Heinonen

Here is one good document about ISDN callback feature.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/113ed_cr/dial_c/dcprt8/dccallid.htm

-Tapani-

"Molendijk, Henk" wrote:

 Hello all,

 I want to enable D-channel callback (Euro-ISDN = NET2) from a 1600 series to
 a 2600 series for using Batched SMTP.
 How is Cisco deals with this ?
 Does such a config needs additional settings ?

 Regards,

 Henk Molendijk


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Re: Switching 2.0 module

2000-07-19 Thread swapnil

The Switching (640-504) exam will contain a combination of the following
topics:

1) Bridging/Switching
Trunking
Broadcasts
Multicasts
VTP
Routing
PIM
Multi-Layer Switching
Fast Ethernet
IP Multicast
Quality of Service
Security
TAG Switching
Static VLANS

2) OSI Reference Model  Layered
Communication
Troubleshooting

3) Network Fundamentals
DDR

4) Standards Definitions
IEEE Standards

5)Cisco Fundamentals
Debug
IOS CLI Switch
Cisco TAC/CCO
Troubleshooting
6) OSI Reference Model  Layered Communication
Switch Components
RMON
Policy management
7) Network Protocols
ATM
LANE
Troubleshooting
Switching
Switching modes/methods
Port Configuration
Switching modes/methods
8) Routing
Trunking

this my help you

good luck for your exam

swapnil


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 Does anyone have some more detailed information about the Switching 2.0
exam?
 seems to be really different from the clsc exam but how much?

 cvp
 ccna


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CID Exam Fail

2000-07-19 Thread McCallum, Robert

I don't know if anyone feels the same regarding this exam but this is quite
simply the hardest exam I have sat so far.  That bad, that I am going on a
course, which will hopefully let me find what I am most obviously lacking.
I failed with 56% (pass mark 65%).  Although only 9% I'm not too comfortable
about only knowing 56% of the material required.  

A note to anyone who has sat this exam and the CCIE written, how do they
compare in hardness etc.  

Chuck, I know how you feel now.  You really have to give this exam the
utmost of respect.

Cheers

Robert McCallum
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Re: bcran looms

2000-07-19 Thread Shahir Boshra

Well, here you are:
62 questions, 90 minutes (my exam was 105 minutes, but probably because this
is outside the US), no marking capability, once you answer a question you
can't return back, passing score is 706 on a scale of 300 to 1000 as written
on the score sheet (can anybody explain this scale method to me?)
I had the exam 6 days ago and got 853, it was one of the very few fair
exams.
Good Luck.
Shahir

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Fax: +202-5164659

"Patrick Duggan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Sorry for posting yet another exam info queston, but as yet the BCRAN
 archive is limited.
 I have this exam Fri, as yet i don't know:- no of questions, duration,
 format i.e. marking
 capability etc. Anybody out there help? Also positive i will slip, slide
and
 sweat on this but that is another story :-) thanks
 Pat

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RE: bcran looms

2000-07-19 Thread Tor ZI-P/ Brian Dunbar

If I have it right the method is 300 points automatically for you. You had
553 out of 700 in a percentage it works out to approximately 81%

Hope it helps

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Shahir Boshra
Sent: July 19, 2000 8:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bcran looms


Well, here you are:
62 questions, 90 minutes (my exam was 105 minutes, but probably because this
is outside the US), no marking capability, once you answer a question you
can't return back, passing score is 706 on a scale of 300 to 1000 as written
on the score sheet (can anybody explain this scale method to me?)
I had the exam 6 days ago and got 853, it was one of the very few fair
exams.
Good Luck.
Shahir

--
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Telecommunications Specialist
USAID - Egypt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: +202-5165505 ext. 2436
Fax: +202-5164659

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Sorry for posting yet another exam info queston, but as yet the BCRAN
 archive is limited.
 I have this exam Fri, as yet i don't know:- no of questions, duration,
 format i.e. marking
 capability etc. Anybody out there help? Also positive i will slip, slide
and
 sweat on this but that is another story :-) thanks
 Pat

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Re: OSPF Not So Stuby Area (NSSA)

2000-07-19 Thread Tony Olzak

Omer,

A NSSA is a stub area that has an ASBR attached to it. It is a Cisco feature
that allows this to happen. Instead of flooding type 5 LSAs, the ASBR floods
the area with type 7 LSAs. When these reach the ABR, it will then propagate
to the rest of the network using type 5 LSAs.


Tony Olzak, CCNP, MCSE


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 Hello,

 I get confused by Cisco Official Book "Advanced Cisco
 Router Configuration". Some time it says that No So
 Stubby Area (NSSA) is a regular area that accepts LSA
 type 7, some time it says NSSA is stub area that
 accepts LSA  type 7.

 Can someone please elaborate.


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RE: CID Exam Fail

2000-07-19 Thread Ruslan S Tchinyakov

Really, I got around 80%, but CID make me spent
almost 2 hours (compare with CMTD- 20 minutes and 990 got).
I used Cisco Network design  Case Studies- but during the exam I felt
it is quite weak to give you some conceptual facts on Token Ring and SNA,
in other questions I have had to refres ACRC in depth. But, nevertheless-
I passed, but without especial hapiness on my face.

Ruslan Tchinyakov,
CCNP+Security, CCDP, MCSE


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
McCallum, Robert
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 4:35 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: CID Exam Fail


I don't know if anyone feels the same regarding this exam but this is quite
simply the hardest exam I have sat so far.  That bad, that I am going on a
course, which will hopefully let me find what I am most obviously lacking.
I failed with 56% (pass mark 65%).  Although only 9% I'm not too comfortable
about only knowing 56% of the material required.

A note to anyone who has sat this exam and the CCIE written, how do they
compare in hardness etc.

Chuck, I know how you feel now.  You really have to give this exam the
utmost of respect.

Cheers

Robert McCallum
Ext 730 3448
DDI : 01415663448
Mobile : 07818002241



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Re: Altiga/VPN guru's

2000-07-19 Thread Tony Olzak

If you are using the IPsec client and your ISP is doing NAT, you will have
problems. When the NAT changes the packet, the CRC of the packet gets
screwed up and messes up IPsec. If you NAT through the Altiga box, however,
they supposedly can NAT IPsec with no problem.


Tony Olzak, CCNP, MCSE


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 Group,

 There has to be someone out there having the same problems with the Altiga
 client that I have seen.  I have found that the Altiga client only works
 with a limited number of ISP's such as Mindspring, Earthlink, etc.
However,
 any obscure or off the beaten path type of connection, the client will
time
 out.  My questions:

 1.  Is there a work around, or a newer release of the client revision that
 corrects these problems?

 2.  What other clients (using IPSec) has anyone tested with the Altiga VPN
 concentrator?

 Your comments are appreciated, thanks in advance.

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isdn simulator

2000-07-19 Thread rick

hello all
was anybody able to use the new 0X32 nortel norstar
key system with the isdn station card as an ISDN
simulator. I am curious to hear from the experts.
Thanks 

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Napster

2000-07-19 Thread Steve Smith

Does anyone know what port I neeed to close on my pix to block
napster?

Steve Smith
MCSE, CCNA
Freeliant.com
901-388-4637 ext.106
 Steve Smith.vcf 

 Steve Smith.vcf


Steps to becoming an IP guru (was: TCP/IP book)

2000-07-19 Thread Dale Holmes

What level of understanding do you wish to attain? Over what time frame?

I would suggest buying all 8 books. Yes, 8 books - the comer books come in 3 
volumes, and the Stevens books come in 3 volumes. All are excellent!

Comer's books cover the theory in vol 1, then the nuts and bolts of each 
protocol in vol's 2 and 3. If you have some knowledge of C programming, or 
you ever wish to write applications in C for the TCP/IP suite, then all 3 
volumes are essential.

Steven's books cover the protocols from a more hands-on perspective. It's 
focus is primarily a systems approach, and assumes that you are using a UNIX 
system. It really gives you a great understanding of the behavior of the 
protocols to use them rather than just read about them. All 3 volumes are 
necessary to build a complete understanding of nearly the entire suite.

Perlman's book does not cover TCP/IP per se, but rather the fundamental 
concepts of routing and bridging. There is by association some coverage of 
TCP/IP in there, but I would start with Comer or Stevens and then move in to 
internetworking concepts.

Doyle's book gives outstanding coverage of IP routing protocols (as opposed 
to rout-ed protocols), and would serve as the final word in this series of 
reading.

Well, almost... The next step might be Bassam Halabi's "Internet Routing 
Architectures" in order to gain an understanding of BGP, as Doyle's book 
does not cover exterior routing protocols.

So, that's really 9 books. Give yourself 18 months to read them, that is a 
conservative pace. Too much money? Too much time? Consider the payback when 
you put that knowledge to work...

SAVE MONEY - the Comer books should be available at your public library - 
certainly at the local University library.

SAVE TIME - read the Comer series and the Steven's series concurrently. 
Likewise with Perlman and Doyle. Not a programmer, never want to be? Skip 
volumes 2 and 3 of Comer's series (this is a sacrifice of knowledge 
though...).

Good Luck, and enjoy!

Dale
[=`)




If you are looking for books that focus strictly on the IP protocol suite
(IP, TCP/UDP, ARP, ICMP, etc), I would not suggest Radia Perlman's
"Interconnections" or Jeff Doyle's "Routing TCP/IP Volume 1".  While
"Interconnections" is an excellent text that addresses a lot of topics
quite well, its coverage of TCP/IP is limited in comparison to the other
books.  And Doyle's book, while great in its own right, has as its primary
focus IP routing protocols.  Therefore, while there is some good
information on IP itself (and associated protocols like ARP), I believe the
title of the book, "Routing TCP/IP", states its focus quite well.

That leaves the books by Stevens and Comer.  Honestly, they are both
excellent books that cover the IP protocol suite very well.  I think it's
really a toss up between the two books.  My personal belief is that while
the Comer book is great, the Steven's book covers the IP suite in a bit
more detail .  That said, if I were purchasing a TCP/IP book today, I might
go with the Comer text strictly because it has been updated
recently.  Again, either way you go, I don't think you will be 
disappointed.

Just my $0.02 (US)


-Marcus

At 06:05 PM 07/18/2000 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello group,

I want to get a very good book on this particular subject..TCP/IP.  I 
checked
reviews on amazon.com for different books, can't decide which one I should
get. They all seem very good.

Douglas Comer book is..Internetworking with TCP/IP
Stevesnts.TCP/IP Illustrated Vol 1
Radia..Interconnections with ...
and there is another one...Jeff Doyle...Routing with TCP/IP (I am waiting 
for
the new edition of this book, not out yet)

  I have taken MCSE TCP/IP exam a year back but that was for Windows NT 
4.0.
I want to learn it at advance level now, for Internetworking.
I am finishing up my CCNP and will be going for CCIE soon.

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CPAW-DC Router Roast Sunday

2000-07-19 Thread Bruce Evry

Dear Friends,

Sorry that we've missed a couple months, but this coming Sunday we
plan to make up for lost time by Roasting a large roast and playing with
lots of routers!

Sunday, July 23rd, starts at Noon - goes til 4 pm. (or so)
Place: Bruce's House (directions at bottom)

We are going to arrange a speaker who has just tried the CCIE Lab,
and will talk about the experience (no non-disclosure of course, eh)

I will give a talk about preparing for the ICP test to become
a Certified Cisco Systems Instructor. (which I'll be taking next week)

Everyone is always welcome to attend, there is no charge - in fact
we haven't even figured out dues. All you need is interest in Cisco stuff.

Bringing snacks and sodas, desserts and side dishes is
 always very appreciated.

Yours Truly - Bruce Evry

  DIRECTIONS TO THE HOUSE

1607 Thomas Road,
   Friendly, MD 20744

From Maryland take I-95 to exit 3a in MD,
From Virginia take Exit 2 in MD
  
   To the Indian Head Highway South.

Go about 3 miles, turn Left on Old Fort Road.

 Go exactly 2 miles on Old Fort Road,
   Turn Right on Thomas Road.
 We are 1607 Thomas Rd, 
almost all the way down the street on the left. 
   
Look for bright signs  a long gravel driveway
 With no House visible from street! 

If lost, our phone # is 301-292-5231, call us!
  

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RE: TCP

2000-07-19 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

The sender assigns a sequence number to each octet transmittet, and the
receiver use these numbers to correctly order segments that are received out
of order and to eliminate duplicates.
Hth,
Ole

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 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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 Subject:  RE: TCP
 
 Pls. elaborate your point of view
 Thanks in advance
 Hitesh
 
 
 
 
 
 Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/18/2000 08:39:06 PM
 
 Please respond to Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 To:   harora, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:
 Subject:  RE: TCP
 
 
 
 
 The receiver will look at the data and see that it has already received it
 and drop it.
 
 Ole
 
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  Subject: TCP
 
  Hi all,
 
  Can anyone resolve my problem? My question is as follows:
 
  In a TCP connection, there is an acknowledgement between the sender and
  the
  reciever. The reciever sends the acknowledgement to the sender after the
  reception of the packets. The sender recieves the packet and further
 sends
  the data. Now suppose the reciever's acknowledgement is dropped in
 between
  i.e. the sender did not recieve any ack. The sender will re-transmit the
  data. But what will happen to the previous data which has been recieved
 by
  the reciever. Suppose this happens for a no. of times, then the reciever
  will have the same data again and again.
 
  Pls. solve the mystery.
 
  Thanks in advance for ur thoughts.
 
  Cordially
  Hitesh
  CCNA
 
 
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Yahoo Messanger--Forming a troubleshooting network...???

2000-07-19 Thread NeoLink2000

Hey group,
I have messenger and my ID is CiscoEssentials. I've tried to add you all 
in but I haven't seen your ID's in your posts. Maybe I'm just blind. 8) Could 
someone send me a list of the others that got in on this. It would be 
appreciated,

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RE: Napster

2000-07-19 Thread Mark Lindon
Title: RE: Napster





6699


8875


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Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:38 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Napster



 Does anyone know what port I neeed to close on my pix to block
napster?


Steve Smith
MCSE, CCNA
Freeliant.com
901-388-4637 ext.106
Steve Smith.vcf 





RE: bcran looms

2000-07-19 Thread Matt C. Lange

That scoring cant make sense, so if I got a 903 i got 120 %

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Tor ZI-P/ Brian Dunbar
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 1:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: bcran looms


If I have it right the method is 300 points automatically for you. You had
553 out of 700 in a percentage it works out to approximately 81%

Hope it helps

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Shahir Boshra
Sent: July 19, 2000 8:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bcran looms


Well, here you are:
62 questions, 90 minutes (my exam was 105 minutes, but probably because this
is outside the US), no marking capability, once you answer a question you
can't return back, passing score is 706 on a scale of 300 to 1000 as written
on the score sheet (can anybody explain this scale method to me?)
I had the exam 6 days ago and got 853, it was one of the very few fair
exams.
Good Luck.
Shahir

--
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Fax: +202-5164659

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 Sorry for posting yet another exam info queston, but as yet the BCRAN
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 I have this exam Fri, as yet i don't know:- no of questions, duration,
 format i.e. marking
 capability etc. Anybody out there help? Also positive i will slip, slide
and
 sweat on this but that is another story :-) thanks
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Re: Router Configuration

2000-07-19 Thread Walker Traylor

Adele,
  Have you considered extended ACLs?  You can make a list for each
interface which denies all except the desired protocols.

--Walker

adele galus wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone:
 
 I would like to get your thoughts as to how I could solve this problem:
 
 One Building with two lines brought in:  ISDN  Frame Relay
 Two Routers:  1601  I don't know the other one
 
 Services received:  Two ISP's  - Email Services with one and the other
 provides www.
 
 Customer wants to use one line for Email/e-commerce software traffic and
 the other line exclusively for www.
 
 How does the router get configured?  Need the professionals here.
 Help..  Thanks a million.
 
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RE: Napster

2000-07-19 Thread Timmons, Robert

Steve,

I observed ports 8875,   1456, but I believe Napster has the ability to
use port 80, so port blocking won't help.  We're doing a simple IP block
here, at the router.  That will stop most users.  There's a proxy function
within Napster, so there may be a small amount of people who will get around
the IP block.  If anyone else has any ideas, I'd like to hear them as well.

Bob

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Steve Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 9:38 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Napster


Does anyone know what port I neeed to close on my pix to block
napster?

Steve Smith
MCSE, CCNA
Freeliant.com
901-388-4637 ext.106
 Steve Smith.vcf 

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ip unnumbered??

2000-07-19 Thread Niraj Palikhey

Hi,
I am trying to understand why a serial connection (s0) is not assigned an ip 
address to connect with the service provider when configured for frame 
relay.
As a configuration example that one of my friends showed me, his serial 0 is 
configured for T1,  with no ip address, serial 0.2 is configured for frame 
relay as a point-to-point subinterface. There is an ip unnumbered 
Ethernet0/0 command for this interface and also the frame relay 
configuration is set (dlci #, lmi type etc)
What does this ip unnumbered do in this case?
Pg. 417 and 418  of the ICRC book from Cisco Press for CCNA 640-407 does not 
explain why the physical interface serial 2 and sub-interface serial 2.2 
point-to-point is not configured with any ip address NOR does it explain the 
use of the ip unnumbered Serial1(in this case).
In this scenario, how does this router talk to the service provider's 
router?
Does it just look at the DLCI number and use the virtual circuit for 
communication to the outside? What is involved?
Please advise.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
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Re: Napster

2000-07-19 Thread Roman

Well... I ran Napster through Sniffer Pro.  I logged on, searched for a song,
and then began a download.  Here were my findings.  The source port is
, with a destination of 1632.  Once you find a song and start to 
download though,
the source port switches to that of the machine that you are downloading from.
In my case it was 1026.  Blocking the server source port of  should 
work however.

I am probably wrong therefore there is no warranty either expressed or 
implied with
this information.  :))

Take care,
Roman

P.S. I also uncovered destination port 6699 being used on my system by napster.

Good luck!

At 08:38 AM 7/19/00 -0500, you wrote:
 Does anyone know what port I neeed to close on my pix to block
napster?

Steve Smith
MCSE, CCNA
Freeliant.com
901-388-4637 ext.106
  Steve Smith.vcf


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Spanish Speaking Cisco Techno-Geeks

2000-07-19 Thread John Diaz

To the whole group:

Please don't flame me for the following survey. But, it is directed to
the(hopefully growing!) Hispanic/Latino Cisco-centric members of this group.

For the Hispanic/Latino members:

1- Cuales son los "retos"(challenges) que les ayuda/impide obtener sus
metas?
2- Cuales son las herramientas(tools) que usan/necesitan para mantenerse al
dia con su proceso de certificacion?
3- Estarian dispuestos a establecer una "red" de apoyo y ayuda entre
nosotros?
4- Cuales serian los requerimientos de ustedes para apoyar, mantener,
emplear, contactar y utilizar constantemente?

Por favor dirigan sus respuestas a mi e-mail privado. Gracias de antemano
por su honesta respuesta.

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Re: Napster

2000-07-19 Thread David C Prall

 Does anyone know what port I neeed to close on my pix to block
 napster?
 
Steve,
You'll need to block the servers themselves.

http://www.phoneboy.com/fw1/faq/0386.html

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Re: Announcements

2000-07-19 Thread Walker Traylor

no logging console

"Curly G. Craddlerock" wrote:
 
 I can't remember for the life of me. How do I shut off the announcements?
 Thanks for refreshing my brain.
 
 00:44:04: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
 
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RE: bcran looms

2000-07-19 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

No, a 903 would be a 603 out of 700 plus the 300 you start with, and that
would be 86%

I don't know if that's how they do it, I'm just calculating 8^)

Ole


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 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
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 -Original Message-
 From: Matt C. Lange [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 3:58 AM
 To:   Tor ZI-P/ Brian Dunbar; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: bcran looms
 
 That scoring cant make sense, so if I got a 903 i got 120 %
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Tor ZI-P/ Brian Dunbar
 Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 1:19 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: bcran looms
 
 
 If I have it right the method is 300 points automatically for you. You had
 553 out of 700 in a percentage it works out to approximately 81%
 
 Hope it helps
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Shahir Boshra
 Sent: July 19, 2000 8:42 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: bcran looms
 
 
 Well, here you are:
 62 questions, 90 minutes (my exam was 105 minutes, but probably because
 this
 is outside the US), no marking capability, once you answer a question you
 can't return back, passing score is 706 on a scale of 300 to 1000 as
 written
 on the score sheet (can anybody explain this scale method to me?)
 I had the exam 6 days ago and got 853, it was one of the very few fair
 exams.
 Good Luck.
 Shahir
 
 --
 Shahir Boshra
 Telecommunications Specialist
 USAID - Egypt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Tel: +202-5165505 ext. 2436
 Fax: +202-5164659
 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Sorry for posting yet another exam info queston, but as yet the BCRAN
  archive is limited.
  I have this exam Fri, as yet i don't know:- no of questions, duration,
  format i.e. marking
  capability etc. Anybody out there help? Also positive i will slip, slide
 and
  sweat on this but that is another story :-) thanks
  Pat
 
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RE: Switching 2.0 module

2000-07-19 Thread dacarl4

Can I just add that the test I had this past Friday was heavy on Trunking
and VTP, also Multicast.  Just my observation.  I passed, but the amount of
those type of questions took me by surprise somewhat.  Hope that info helps
someone out there. 

David

 -Original Message-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; groupstudy
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The Switching (640-504) exam will contain a combination of the following
topics:

1) Bridging/Switching
Trunking
Broadcasts
Multicasts
VTP
Routing
PIM
Multi-Layer Switching
Fast Ethernet
IP Multicast
Quality of Service
Security
TAG Switching
Static VLANS

2) OSI Reference Model  Layered
Communication
Troubleshooting

3) Network Fundamentals
DDR

4) Standards Definitions
IEEE Standards

5)Cisco Fundamentals
Debug
IOS CLI Switch
Cisco TAC/CCO
Troubleshooting
6) OSI Reference Model  Layered Communication
Switch Components
RMON
Policy management
7) Network Protocols
ATM
LANE
Troubleshooting
Switching
Switching modes/methods
Port Configuration
Switching modes/methods
8) Routing
Trunking

this my help you

good luck for your exam

swapnil


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 Does anyone have some more detailed information about the Switching 2.0
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 seems to be really different from the clsc exam but how much?

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RE: Router Configuration

2000-07-19 Thread HILVING, JAMES (SBIS)

Adele,
You are going to want to use route-maps for this. You can specify next-hop
rules based on protocol used. Just beware that some protocols may not work
like expected. When the user goes out to a Web site the first packet is a
port 80 request, the rest may look like a general TCP session and bypass
your router-map. So do your homework on Cisco.com or buy an advanced book
that explains all the options when using route-maps..  
James Hilving

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Subject: Re: Router Configuration


Adele,
  Have you considered extended ACLs?  You can make a list for each
interface which denies all except the desired protocols.

--Walker

adele galus wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone:
 
 I would like to get your thoughts as to how I could solve this problem:
 
 One Building with two lines brought in:  ISDN  Frame Relay
 Two Routers:  1601  I don't know the other one
 
 Services received:  Two ISP's  - Email Services with one and the other
 provides www.
 
 Customer wants to use one line for Email/e-commerce software traffic and
 the other line exclusively for www.
 
 How does the router get configured?  Need the professionals here.
 Help..  Thanks a million.
 
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RE: Yahoo Messanger--Forming a troubleshooting network...???

2000-07-19 Thread Marc Giroux (EMC)

Up to know I am only aware of 3
jimk_ccnp
cisco_buster
Marc_giroux

Marc Giroux
Product Manager DWDM  Cable Solutions
Ericsson Canada
905-206-7441
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 Hey group,
 I have messenger and my ID is CiscoEssentials. I've tried to add you
 all 
 in but I haven't seen your ID's in your posts. Maybe I'm just blind. 8)
 Could 
 someone send me a list of the others that got in on this. It would be 
 appreciated,
 
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Re: ip unnumbered??

2000-07-19 Thread Daniel Beynon

Frame-relay providers are not at all concerneted with
your layer 3 addressing (IP). They are strickly involved
with layer2 in this case your DLCI. All routing in their
network is based on the DLCI not the IP. The router in
the customer network will make the IP routing decisions
which in turn are mapped to Frame-relay DLCI's. If using
map commands you can see.

Frame-relay map IP 1.1.1.1 200 broadcast.
(This tells the router that IP address 1.1.1.1/subnet is
mapped to DLCI 200.

The IP unmunbered in this case is taking the same subnet
from E0 and placing it on the frame-circuit (Layer 3). This
cuts down the the number of IP subnets and routing table size
used in a network.

Hope this helps?
Dan



From: "Niraj Palikhey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Niraj Palikhey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ip unnumbered??
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:18:06 EDT

Hi,
I am trying to understand why a serial connection (s0) is not assigned an 
ip
address to connect with the service provider when configured for frame
relay.
As a configuration example that one of my friends showed me, his serial 0 
is
configured for T1,  with no ip address, serial 0.2 is configured for frame
relay as a point-to-point subinterface. There is an ip unnumbered
Ethernet0/0 command for this interface and also the frame relay
configuration is set (dlci #, lmi type etc)
What does this ip unnumbered do in this case?
Pg. 417 and 418  of the ICRC book from Cisco Press for CCNA 640-407 does 
not
explain why the physical interface serial 2 and sub-interface serial 2.2
point-to-point is not configured with any ip address NOR does it explain 
the
use of the ip unnumbered Serial1(in this case).
In this scenario, how does this router talk to the service provider's
router?
Does it just look at the DLCI number and use the virtual circuit for
communication to the outside? What is involved?
Please advise.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
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Re: MCIS Mail

2000-07-19 Thread John Hardman



Hi

Mailing no I do not know of one, but there is 
msnews.microsoft.com which has several news groups for the MCIS product 
line.
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Routers and VLAN

2000-07-19 Thread Curly G. Craddlerock

How many VLAN/sub-int can I effectivly put on an interface. I would like to
buy a dedicated router and run my VLAN's off of it. Any suggestions on the
router or my thinking? Does the DCN class cover these design issues? I'm a
CCNA, but I have a lot of design ?'s.  Thanks for your help.


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Re: ip unnumbered??

2000-07-19 Thread Brian

On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Niraj Palikhey wrote:

 Hi,
 I am trying to understand why a serial connection (s0) is not assigned an ip 
 address to connect with the service provider when configured for frame 
 relay.

Because you don't need to assign a PtP link its own IP address.  The
traffic can really only go one place..the other end of the pipe.
IP Unnumbered can be use.

 As a configuration example that one of my friends showed me, his serial 0 is 
 configured for T1,  with no ip address, serial 0.2 is configured for frame 
 relay as a point-to-point subinterface. There is an ip unnumbered 

Yes.  When you do subinterfaces, you don't have to have an ip address or
even ip unnumbered on the physical interface.  You can think of that sort
of like an Extended hard drive partition, and the subinterfaces are
logicals within the extended (now is that a bad analogy or what!?)

Some people don't like to use the physical interfacelike
s0/0...they prefer to just use the subinterfaces s0/0.1,
s0/0.2..and leave the physical interface just out there.

 Ethernet0/0 command for this interface and also the frame relay 
 configuration is set (dlci #, lmi type etc)
 What does this ip unnumbered do in this case?

IP unnumbered tells the serial interface to use the ip of the interface
you specify.  Its very common to use ip unnumbered to an ethernet
interface...for example.  If you have a router with a single ethernet
and a single serial PtP link.  You can just use ip unnumbered.  Alot of
"consumer" ISDN routers work this wayyou don't number the serial
WAN interface and the ethernet LAN interface, you just assign the router
one ip number and thats used on all interfaces.

This IMHO, is good for stubs who are routed a subnet and thats not going
to change.  I personally prefer to use numbered interfaces, because you
must use numbered interfaces if using a Routing protocol such as OSPF.

Sometimes people make the argument that they don't have the necessary ip
numbers to make /30's for the PtP links.  You can use RFC 1918 speace,
with no translation needed, so long as its on your side of the border
router.  This could break MTU Path Discovery, but you just have to ask
yourself what your needs are.

 Pg. 417 and 418  of the ICRC book from Cisco Press for CCNA 640-407 does not 
 explain why the physical interface serial 2 and sub-interface serial 2.2 
 point-to-point is not configured with any ip address NOR does it explain the 
 use of the ip unnumbered Serial1(in this case).
 In this scenario, how does this router talk to the service provider's 
 router?
 Does it just look at the DLCI number and use the virtual circuit for 
 communication to the outside? What is involved?
 Please advise.
 Thank you.
 Kind regards,
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Visio Icons

2000-07-19 Thread Russ Kreigh

Can someone tell me where to get Visio Icons, specifically for the 2600
Series. I don't have a CCO login so I can't get them from the Cisco site.

Thanks

Russ Kreigh

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