Job for Cisco professionals

2000-09-11 Thread Naveen Sharma

Dear friends,

I am looking for job web sites for Cisco professionals, could any body point
the URL for me.

Thanks in advance.

Warm regards
Naveen

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Re: Job for Cisco professionals

2000-09-11 Thread John Kaberna

What country/countries are you looking to work in?

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 Dear friends,

 I am looking for job web sites for Cisco professionals, could any body
point
 the URL for me.

 Thanks in advance.

 Warm regards
 Naveen

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RE: CVOICE 2.0 Beta passed

2000-09-11 Thread Ibrahim


Cisco VoIP Fundamental book, and VoFR documentation from Cisco is very
usefull. Don't forget to read IP Telephony products.


regards,
Ibam


 Ibam,
 do you have any good resource for the CVOICE exam ? I am
 looking for the
 CVOICE 2.0 notes.


 rgds
 Wallace

 Ibrahim wrote:

  Hi .. I passed it, I thought I'll get failed, because so many
 questions on
  Voice over frame-relay ..
 
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  Cvoice,Cvoice 2.0
 
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ftp linl

2000-09-11 Thread Dost

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Re: Access list

2000-09-11 Thread Seth Wilson

Incidentally, I have read somewhere--possibly this list--that the McGraw
Hill book contains almost all the material necessary to pass the CCNP
Security specialization exam.  The only exam material that isn't covered in
the book is PIX firewall information.  Just what I've heard.

~Seth~
CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I, CNE

 The McGraw-Hill book Bob T mentioned, I have read it and like it a lot.
It
 covers a lot of ground -- access lists and related stuff, and it is
concise
 and readable and has lots of examples in it.  Highly recommended.  About
 $29US.

 Bob W.
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Re: Job for Cisco professionals

2000-09-11 Thread Ben Lovegrove

Have you been to www.lovegrove.co.uk/bgl/

Select Work Cisco!

Rgds
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can pix act as a proxy ???

2000-09-11 Thread Achal Kataria

Hi,

 I just have a simple query. I have PIX firewall and just wanted to
know whether PIX could act as a proxy server for the users for accessing
internet.

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Cisco Express Forwarding

2000-09-11 Thread Bal Sandhu

Guys,

does anyone have any information on CEF ?
How can I measure the improvements upon its implementation ?

cheers,

Bal Sandhu  

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Management VLAN

2000-09-11 Thread Jeroen Timmer

Hi,

I'm having a discussion with some colleage's of mine about the management
VLAN.


One says thaty the management VLAN will let trough broadcasts  I'm
saying that it will not let trough broadcasts. The management VLAN is only
to manage your switches and routers by telnetting etc. and it won't let
trough broadcasts..

Am I right or does my colleage win this one :) ??


JT

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RE: ISDN

2000-09-11 Thread Jeff Wang
Title: RE: ISDN 






Hi Peter,


Looking at the show command, there is no layer 3 call. If your BRI interface gets assigned an IP address by the called router, then you won't be able to pin the BRI IP address until an ISDN call is made (and IP assigned).

Cheers

Jeff


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Subject: ISDN 



I am having problem with ISDN connection. Even though I see active Layer 1  

Layer 2status I am unable to ping my local ISDN interface.

Router#sh isdn stat

Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni

ISDN BRI0/0 interface

 dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni

 Layer 1 Status:

 ACTIVE

 Layer 2 Status:

 TEI = 109, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED

 TEI = 111, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED

 Spid Status:

 TEI 109, ces = 1, state = 8(established)

 spid1 configured, no LDN, spid1 sent, spid1 valid

 Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 70, tid = 0

 TEI 111, ces = 2, state = 8(established)

 spid2 configured, no LDN, spid2 sent, spid2 valid

 Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 71, tid = 0

 Layer 3 Status:

 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)

 Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0

 Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0


Is this any carrier realted problem? What else can I do to troubleshoot 

this.


Thanks...

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Re: Management VLAN

2000-09-11 Thread Aleksander Kocelj

VLAN just devide ports to different different broadcast domains. Broadcast
will go only to ports that are in the same broadcast domain.

So broadcast will go thro but not to all ports.


Aleksander Kocelj
MCP, CCNA

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 Hi,

 I'm having a discussion with some colleage's of mine about the management
 VLAN.


 One says thaty the management VLAN will let trough broadcasts  I'm
 saying that it will not let trough broadcasts. The management VLAN is only
 to manage your switches and routers by telnetting etc. and it won't let
 trough broadcasts..

 Am I right or does my colleage win this one :) ??


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Re: what is wire-speed?

2000-09-11 Thread John lay


What do you mean by interfame gap? is it the address?
What about ingress and egress issue? how do they calculate it?

Thanks a lot

 Bye




On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:41:13 -0700, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

  Wire speed means the switch can pump out packets as fast as the medium
can 
  handle. For example, the maximum packets-per-second rate on 10-Mbps 
  Ethernet with 64-byte packets is 14,880 packets per second. This comes
from
  
  Preamble =   64 bits
  64 Byte frame = 512 bits
  Interframe gap = 96 bits
  
  Total = 672 bits
  
  Max packets per second on 10 Mbps Ethernet = 10,000,000 / 672 = 14,880 
  packets per second. A wire-speed switch, which most are, would have no 
  problem outputting that number of packets per second.
  
  If you were to use 1024 byte packets, the number is 1197 packets per
second 
  on 10Mbps Ethernet.
  
  So, yes, vendors do tend to use 64-byte packets when quoting their
results, 
  because it gives them better numbers.
  
  The other thing vendors do is quote the results when using Gigabit 
  Ethernet. That's where numbers like millions of packets per second come 
  from. In addition, if the vendor's numbers are based on tests that output

  to multiple ports, then you can get astronomical numbers, for example,
1.48 
  million packets per second multiplied by 100 ports. As you can probably 
  guess, this is a rudimentary way of specifying the performance of a
switch 
  that is fraught with the over-zealousness of marketing drones. ;-)
  
  Priscilla
  
  
  At 02:12 PM 9/10/00, Kent wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  Any body knows what they mean by saying "wire-speed"
  forwarding about a switch?
  Also, when Cisco says  a switch can forward at 100
  million pps or something like this, what the size of
  the packets they usually refer to of the PPS(packet
  per second)? 64byte?
  
  Thanks
  
  Kent
  
  
  
  
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RE: Management VLAN

2000-09-11 Thread Ehab Mohamad Abdullah

It wont let the broadcast unless you spevified an IP helper Address, because
you have a router in the middle of the VLAN setup, so if you have five VLANs
, they wont be able to communicate with out a router.
and 
It is very well known that routers do not forward broadcast. Only switches
can do so.
Ehab Abdallah

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Subject: Management VLAN


Hi,

I'm having a discussion with some colleage's of mine about the management
VLAN.


One says thaty the management VLAN will let trough broadcasts  I'm
saying that it will not let trough broadcasts. The management VLAN is only
to manage your switches and routers by telnetting etc. and it won't let
trough broadcasts..

Am I right or does my colleage win this one :) ??


JT

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Management VLAN - 2

2000-09-11 Thread Jeroen Timmer

Hi,

Just to point out to some that replyed to my message...

Management VLAN is something different than a normal VLAN. The management
VLAN is mostly on every trunk port of a VLAN configuration. So if I have
about 6 different VLAN's on different trunk ports, the management VLAN would
also be on the trunkports of every VLAN. That's why I posted the question if
the management VLAN (configured on each VLAN domain) will let trough
broadcasts.


JT

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Re: can pix act as a proxy ???

2000-09-11 Thread Kristopher B. Climie

Depends on your definition of a proxy server.  If by proxy you mean as a
cache  engine, then no, obviously not.  But if you mean as a centralized
point of exit to the internet that is capable of hiding your private
network, then yes.  By using TACACS+ or RADIUS, you can even authenticate
users.  The PIX will prompt the user for a username and password on their
first try at getting to the net, then check that u/p with the authentication
server.  Once the server respondes with that users authorization level the
user is granted/denied access to that service.

If by proxy, you mean as a URL filter, the answer is yes, by only in
conjunction with a third part piece of software like WebSense.  All user
requests are first forwarded to the WebSense server and checked for the
policy of it.  If it is acceptible, the request is then passed to the
Internet, but if it is denied the request is denied and either a custom page
can be returned to the user telling them it is a site that violates your
policy, or my favorite, returns a generic site error, making them believe
that the site is down.

K

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please, no flames*

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  I just have a simple query. I have PIX firewall and just wanted to
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 internet.

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SNMP

2000-09-11 Thread ANIL.YADAV

hi
can u please send me any article on snmp, which gives complete 
detail about it.
if u know url please forward it to me.

thanks in advance!

thanks 
anil

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Re: Management VLAN - 2 [ long ]

2000-09-11 Thread Scott Nelson

There is no big mystery around the "management VLAN", it is just a regular
VLAn that the Sup or similar device needs to made a part of to communicate
with the outside world so that you can communicate and manage it.

By default, the Sup modules are part of VLAN one, which you should use as
you management VLAN and put all other traffic on another VLAN if you really
want to make it easier for troubleshooting and a couple other reasons, but
you don't have to do this if you don't want to. It just makes your network
cleaner. If you only have one VLAN and a small network, just leave it that
way.

I make my management VLAN an rfc1918 network, ( IE 192.168.x.x, etc )
so that I am using IP addresses that are blocked from being routed, for
security reasons and that I am not burning IP addresses that don't need to
go outside my network, IE: accessing the internet for HTTP, FTP, etc.

You can put what VLAN the Sup module attaches to, part of any VLAN so you
could make a management VLAN, any VLAN number if you wish. However, the
default management VLAN by default from Cisco and other vendors is VLAN 1.

I would recommend though that VLAN 1 remain the management VLAN for 1
reason, if you add a new switch to the network, it is by default in VLAN 1
unless it is programmed before it is put on the network. Why take a chance
of it being on the wrong VLAN? There have been cases where some switches
just won't work very well in anything else but VLAN 1 for management. Just a
bug in the code. Some switches won't even let you move management from
working out of anything else than VLAN 1. Mostly the older switches though.

If you have under 200 switches/devices on VLAN 1 that need to be managed and
the router goes down or you start having router issues, all of your devices
are already on the same VLAN, which doesn't require routing at this point
since they are all on the same VLAN, then stick all everything else in
another VLAN. I have had NICs go bad and cause some nasty broadcast storms
but since they were on another VLAN, only that VLAN was really effected.

You can have a port setup to be in VLAN 1 so you can attach a workstation to
it to get to your devices in a pinch as you won't be routing at this point
as you will be on the same subnet.
( Assuming you are not doing secondary addressing or subinterfaces on the
router or running on the VLAN )

I even set aside port 1 on all the switches I manage so that when I am in a
closet, I know I have a port to connect my laptop to, to manage the
switches, routers with. I even host 5 addresses on this net from my DHCP
server so that I don't even have to change my settings on my MAC Powerbook.

Did I miss your question? Did this help?

Scott


 Hi,

 Just to point out to some that replyed to my message...

 Management VLAN is something different than a normal VLAN. The management
 VLAN is mostly on every trunk port of a VLAN configuration. So if I have
 about 6 different VLAN's on different trunk ports, the management VLAN would
 also be on the trunkports of every VLAN. That's why I posted the question if
 the management VLAN (configured on each VLAN domain) will let trough
 broadcasts.


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Network Usage policy

2000-09-11 Thread Albert Ip

Hello everyone,

I need to define a network usage policy at work and need your input.

We had someone use a port scanner here a few weeks ago and the same person
just did some large FTP download and upload during the weekend. (he is
either being fire or we are locking down his user profile.)
My boss want me to have a policy spell out to all the staff to what is
acceptable.  I am just starting off and would welcome any ideas.  I will
post what I put together once it is done.

Thanks
Albert

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written CCIE Exam

2000-09-11 Thread Marcio Pilotto
Title: written CCIE  Exam





Hi all,


is there any good written CCIE simulator? Suggestions?


Thanks,


Marcio 





RE: SNMP

2000-09-11 Thread Steve Smith

Try,
http://whatis.techtarget.com/WhatIs_Definition_Page/0,4152,214221,00.html

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hi
can u please send me any article on snmp, which gives complete 
detail about it.
if u know url please forward it to me.

thanks in advance!

thanks 
anil

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configuring 3524 lan switch

2000-09-11 Thread Colin Byelong

Hi, we have a number of 3524 cisco lan switches and i can't seem to find
a command to configure muliple ports to a vlan at the same time in cat
os the command is set vlan vlan number port number or range eg.
5/1-24, 6/1-1
The only way i can do this on a 3500 series is through the web interface
unless you know better.

cheers

colin

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Re: bcsn

2000-09-11 Thread Ariel Banzon

If you look around, people who have taken the BSCN mention 30% consist of
BGP.  I missed the ACRC by 3 questions, I guess I did not know it.  However,
it only had 1 question at the time on BGP.  I would look into purchasing a
new BSCN book.

I've recently learned from my publisher that the CISCO version of BSCN book
is delayed for release.   Try Examcram.com.  I'm not sure how good their
book is.  If it is as good as their Windows NT stuff, I'd bank on it.  Here
are the books I've ordered for this test.  Keep in touch if you want to pal
around for the BSCN test.  I can be reached at
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Best wishes

http://www.examcram.com/ecstore/product.asp?sku=1047
CCNP Routing Exam Cram  ISBN 1576106330

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Re: BSCN--Exan640-503 books

2000-09-11 Thread Ariel Banzon

These are the books I've been told are good.  Decide for yourself.  Cisco
version is delayed 'again' till end of month.

http://www.examcram.com/ecstore/product.asp?sku=1047
CCNP Routing Exam Cram  ISBN 1576106330

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RE: Router models?

2000-09-11 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Yes that would help.

If you write them down on a piece of paper, I'm sure it will show you a
pattern that will help you memorize it.

The 700:

If the number is even, it has both an S/T and a U port - else it only has an
S/T port.

If the middle number is 6 it only has 1 Ethernet ports, if 7 it has 4.

If the last number is 1 or 2 is has no POTS ports, if 5 or 6 it has 2.


The 1600:

There's not really a pattern, but there are only 5 models.


The 3600:

The third number shows you how many modules slots it has : 3640 has 4.


Hth,

Ole

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hi guys and gals

For the Remote Access 2.0 exam , does one need to memorise the different
types of routers ranging from 700, 1600 , 3600 series how many serial ports
they have , how many BRI interfaces they have etc.?

thanks b4 hand
Jason

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Hello

2000-09-11 Thread kaushal Bhatt



Friends

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Re: what is wire-speed?

2000-09-11 Thread Kent

Thanks guys!

Kent



--- Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wire speed means the switch can pump out packets as
 fast as the medium can 
 handle. For example, the maximum packets-per-second
 rate on 10-Mbps 
 Ethernet with 64-byte packets is 14,880 packets per
 second. This comes from
 
 Preamble =   64 bits
 64 Byte frame = 512 bits
 Interframe gap = 96 bits
 
 Total = 672 bits
 
 Max packets per second on 10 Mbps Ethernet =
 10,000,000 / 672 = 14,880 
 packets per second. A wire-speed switch, which most
 are, would have no 
 problem outputting that number of packets per
 second.
 
 If you were to use 1024 byte packets, the number is
 1197 packets per second 
 on 10Mbps Ethernet.
 
 So, yes, vendors do tend to use 64-byte packets when
 quoting their results, 
 because it gives them better numbers.
 
 The other thing vendors do is quote the results when
 using Gigabit 
 Ethernet. That's where numbers like millions of
 packets per second come 
 from. In addition, if the vendor's numbers are based
 on tests that output 
 to multiple ports, then you can get astronomical
 numbers, for example, 1.48 
 million packets per second multiplied by 100 ports.
 As you can probably 
 guess, this is a rudimentary way of specifying the
 performance of a switch 
 that is fraught with the over-zealousness of
 marketing drones. ;-)
 
 Priscilla
 
 
 At 02:12 PM 9/10/00, Kent wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Any body knows what they mean by saying
 "wire-speed"
 forwarding about a switch?
 Also, when Cisco says  a switch can forward at 100
 million pps or something like this, what the size
 of
 the packets they usually refer to of the PPS(packet
 per second)? 64byte?
 
 Thanks
 
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static route question ??

2000-09-11 Thread jeongwoo park

HI all.
Situation:
There is a central site in San Francisco, and four
branches around Bay area.
Since static route gives us faster traffic
transmission, would it be the most desirable way to
configure static route on all routers, regardless
whether it is a central site router or branch office
router?
If not, why not?

Thanks in adv.

jeongwoo


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Re: How does cisco router load-balancing?

2000-09-11 Thread Darren House

I thought you could only get per packet load sharing by using CEF.  All
other switching methods allowed for per destination/session load sharing.

I also think (I could be wrong) that if you have E0 process switched and
E1 Fast Switched, the first packet would be process switched, the route
processor would look up the destination in the route table.  The first
entry in the table would be used for the first session, whether that's E0
or E1.  If it's E0, then the 2nd session for the same destination network
would choose E1, because there are 2 equal cost destinations in the 
routing table.  From that point, when the fast cache is initialized on
E1, the router will use E1 for any subsequent session to the same
destination address, as long as that address is still in the fast cache.

If the route table had E1 first, then I don't think E0 would even be used,
because the route table would not be referenced again until the fast cache
entry was removed. 

But once again, these are per destination scenarios, not per packet.

Let me know your thoughts,

Thanks,
Darren

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On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Rodgers Moore wrote:

 Interesting question!
 
 Let's go through how it works and see "In Theory" what we might expect to
 happen.
 
 The first packet to a destination is always process switched, so first
 packets should be evenly distributed between the interfaces.  But the E1 has
 fast caching so all subsequent packets will traverse E1.  What I suspect is
 that the second packet of a stream, which took E0 for the first packet, will
 traverse E1 which will cache the destination and all subsequent packets will
 traverse E1.
 
 So even though E0 is used for first packets to a destination, E1 will get
 the second packet and will add it to the cache and ALL streams will end up
 using E1 effectively stealing everything from E0.  The second packet on
 would traverse E1. E0 will barely be used.
 
 No, that's not 100 % correct.  The process engine doesn't care about
 destination, it switches the queue.  A stream (let's call it Bob) could stay
 on E0, but as the packets are dequeued every packet prior to a Bob packet
 would have to be sent to E1. You've got a 50/50 chance of that happening.
 So this becomes a straight forward Prob  Stat exercise:  flipping a coin.
 While the odds are 50/50 to the individual packet, the stream has a
 probability of the aggregation of all preceding packets.  Can you flip a
 coin and come up heads 100 times in a row? Yes, but is unlikely.  The more
 streams, the more coins that are flipped, and the more likely _a_ stream
 will be sent to E1.
 
 I think what we would see if there were 256 streams something similar to:
 1st packet:  128 go to E0, 128 go to E1
 2nd packet: 64 go to E0,  192 to E1 (128 1st + 64 2nd)
 3rd packet: 32 go to E0,  224 to E1 (128 1st + 64 2nd + 32 3rd)
 4th packet: 16 go to E0, 240 to E1 (128 1st + 64 2nd + 32 3rd + 16 4th)
 
 So the probability a stream would traverse and stay on E0 to it's completion
 would be computed as: p = 100/(2^n) where "p" is the percentage probability
 (how many out of 100), "n" is the number of packets in the stream (ie, the
 length).  This doesn't take into account when the stream count is 0.
 
 Of course that's my theory.  Anyone have time to bench and test it?
 
 Rodgers Moore, CCDP, CCNP-Security
 Design and Security Consultant
 Data Processing Sciences, Corp.
 
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  I have question quite confused about. I learnt that per-packet
  load-balancing is used when process-switching is enabled and
  per-destination load-balancing is used when fast-switching is enabled.
 
  My question is, If there are two equal-cost routes between RouterA and
  RouterB, let's say the interfaces are E0 and E1. If I enable
  process-switching on E0 and fast-switching on E1, which load-balancing
  is used in this situation?
 
  Hope can get some answer.
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Telephony switches

2000-09-11 Thread Erik Mintz

Hello All, can I get some suggestions on good books and/or resources to help
me get familiarized with telephony switching, in particular, the
Cisco/summafour telephony switches? I found cisco's online docs for the
VCO/4k, but I am light in experience with telephony switching and need some
more fundamental info.

Thanks,

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Re: Network Usage policy

2000-09-11 Thread Dale Holmes

What you need is an Acceptable Use Policy Statement. Here is a link with 
many examples...

http://www.avana.net/~jtruitt/ferret/auplinks.html

You might also consider developing an information security policy that 
specifically states the things that are absolutely forbidden (port scanning, 
mp3's or other huge bandwidth hogs, adult material, ethnic slander, etc. 
Some of the examples at the above link have this information contained 
within the Acceptable use statement, but others have seperated them. One 
reason to do so is that the Acceptable Use policy statement usually is owned 
(and enforced) by Human Resources, while the Information Security policy is 
owned by IS. The Acceptable Use policy points to the IS policy, allowing HR 
to enforce what you put in your policy statement, but you retain full 
control over the contents of the IS policy and can amend it as you see fit.

I hope this helps (I just finished one for a client of mine).

Dale
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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:31:01 -0700

Hello everyone,

I need to define a network usage policy at work and need your input.

We had someone use a port scanner here a few weeks ago and the same person
just did some large FTP download and upload during the weekend. (he is
either being fire or we are locking down his user profile.)
My boss want me to have a policy spell out to all the staff to what is
acceptable.  I am just starting off and would welcome any ideas.  I will
post what I put together once it is done.

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2000-09-11 Thread J K

Hello I'll keep this shirt since this is off topic but what are some of the 
analyzers that the pro's recomend . Is their a web site that does 
comparisions to hardware/software analyzers . Pros's picks ?  I am looking 
for ideas . Please let me know if you can help




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Re: configuring 3524 lan switch

2000-09-11 Thread Phil Barker

Colin,

I normally cut and paste for 2924 and 3524 switches.
i.e do one port by hand in notepad or whatever and
then build up your config via cut and paste editing
the interface number along the way. Then go to "conf
t" on the target switch and cut and paste the lot.

Regards,

Phil.

--- Colin Byelong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi,
we have a number of 3524 cisco lan switches and
 i can't seem to find
 a command to configure muliple ports to a vlan at
 the same time in cat
 os the command is set vlan vlan number port number
 or range eg.
 5/1-24, 6/1-1
 The only way i can do this on a 3500 series is
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 unless you know better.
 
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2000-09-11 Thread Stephen Kerekes

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Re: Modem question

2000-09-11 Thread Vern Stitt

Hey Mari,

You will never see a 56000 bps connection!  I think the fastest allowed by
telco due to line parameters is 53300.  I usually get 48000 or 51000.  But
after a sustained heavy rain, I only get 16000 or 28000 and once only got
9600.  Must have a crack in the insulation on my line between my home and
the CO.  If you consistently get a low connection speed, you probably also
get noisy voice connections!

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When you use a 56K modem to connect to internet,
you never achieve 56K. For example, sometimes it
shows that the bytes sent at 48000 bps, sometimes
45000 bps, everytime it's different. So, where has
those "bandwidth" gone to?? (--please correct if
I'm wrong on this) So, can I conclude that a 56K
modem is only theoretically 56K???

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Re: configuring 3524 lan switch

2000-09-11 Thread Colin Byelong

Phil,

Thanks for the info, so you don't know if there is a command to change speed, duplex, 
vlan membership etc, in the ios 6500 there is a command interface range interface 
number to do this and you can specify ranges in the catos, why not in the 3500. 

cheers

Colin



At 04:03 PM 9/11/00 +0100, Phil Barker wrote:
Colin,

I normally cut and paste for 2924 and 3524 switches.
i.e do one port by hand in notepad or whatever and
then build up your config via cut and paste editing
the interface number along the way. Then go to "conf
t" on the target switch and cut and paste the lot.

Regards,

Phil.

--- Colin Byelong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi,
we have a number of 3524 cisco lan switches and
 i can't seem to find
 a command to configure muliple ports to a vlan at
 the same time in cat
 os the command is set vlan vlan number port number
 or range eg.
 5/1-24, 6/1-1
 The only way i can do this on a 3500 series is
 through the web interface
 unless you know better.
 
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Re: Management vlan and the IP address

2000-09-11 Thread Karen . Young


http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/28201900/1928v8x/eecli8x/clipart1.htm#14309

the "ip mgmt-vlan vlan #" command

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Hello,

Is it possible to associsate the switch ip address with a vlan other than
the vlan 1, in 1900 switches?

I know in 6000 series switches you can associate the switch ip address with
the vlan you line and make it management vlan.



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Re: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-11 Thread CiscoDiety

Dark fiber is fiber that is not being used. ie, no light is passed through
it, hence the term "dark"




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 I think dark fibre means a OC3 or OC12 link

 Jason

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 hi.
 what is dark fiber?
 i found some sites that says dark fiber means unused fiber.
 is it so?
 i think dark fiber must be different then unused fiber.
 i mean for example. 10gigabit ethernet runs on dark fiber.
 dark must be something related to bandwidth or wavelength.

 if someone knows dark fiber definition i ll be happy.
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Re: [Re: Modem question]

2000-09-11 Thread Petra Hofmann

Some additional information is required here.

First, the maximum limit is 53K (US) imposed by the line voltage restriction
place upon telcos in the U.S.  The speed reported is for only the instant it
was measured as the connection changes dynamically over lifetime of
connection.  There can be only one A-D conversion in the line which terminates
at the telco switch with a trunk side T-1.


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  Hi Group
  
  When you use a 56K modem to connect to internet,
  you never achieve 56K. For example, sometimes it
  shows that the bytes sent at 48000 bps, sometimes
  45000 bps, everytime it's different. So, where has
  those "bandwidth" gone to?? (--please correct if
  I'm wrong on this) So, can I conclude that a 56K
  modem is only theoretically 56K???
 
 Marketing.  It's gone to the same place as the extra miles on the MPG 
 estimates, the extra minutes of runtime on cellular batteries, etc.
 
 During the lengthy "song of modems mating" heard when the call connects, 
 both ends test the ability of the analog line to handle various
combinations
 of level, phase, and frequency, and negotiate the highest speed at which 
 data can be passed at that particular time over that particular connection,
 with a resonable and correctible error rate.  During the process of the
call,
 the top speed may be renegotiated.  And, anything over 33.6 only occurs if
 one end is a digital (ISDN or T-1) connection, and only in the direction
 from the digital side to the analog side.  
 
 Your mileage may vary.  Batteries not included.  This 56K modem was full
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auto-negotiate not reliable

2000-09-11 Thread Doug Laing

Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a
NIC is not always reliable.

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Re: configuring 3524 lan switch

2000-09-11 Thread Phil Barker

Colin,
I'd hedge my bets that their isn't one. The 6500's
IOS is obviously non 11.xx IOS. I'm using version
12.0(5) onthe 3524's and the inference is to use a Web
interface to configure multiple ports, which I suspect
is cut-and-paste at the end of the day.

Regards,

Phil.

--- Colin Byelong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Phil,
 
 Thanks for the info, so you don't know if there is a
 command to change speed, duplex, vlan membership
 etc, in the ios 6500 there is a command interface
 range interface number to do this and you can
 specify ranges in the catos, why not in the 3500. 
 
 cheers
 
 Colin
 
 
 
 At 04:03 PM 9/11/00 +0100, Phil Barker wrote:
 Colin,
 
 I normally cut and paste for 2924 and 3524
 switches.
 i.e do one port by hand in notepad or whatever and
 then build up your config via cut and paste editing
 the interface number along the way. Then go to
 "conf
 t" on the target switch and cut and paste the lot.
 
 Regards,
 
 Phil.
 
 --- Colin Byelong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hi,
 we have a number of 3524 cisco lan switches and
  i can't seem to find
  a command to configure muliple ports to a vlan at
  the same time in cat
  os the command is set vlan vlan number port
 number
  or range eg.
  5/1-24, 6/1-1
  The only way i can do this on a 3500 series is
  through the web interface
  unless you know better.
  
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Re: auto-negotiate not reliable

2000-09-11 Thread Patrick Bass

It can't determine the condition of the cable.  What else?...anyone help?

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Re: Router models?

2000-09-11 Thread Stephen Skinner

not really they don`t ask to many question`s on the 7000
but you better give it a quick look incase..


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Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:51:48 -0500

hi guys and gals

For the Remote Access 2.0 exam , does one need to memorise the different
types of routers ranging from 700, 1600 , 3600 series how many serial ports
they have , how many BRI interfaces they have etc.?

thanks b4 hand
Jason

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OT: Life expectancy of Fiber Optic Cable

2000-09-11 Thread mike delp

I have been in a discussion with a telco about fiber backbones, and they
heard something about the life expectancy of a fiber cable.  I have reviewed
the manufacturers specs, and I can't find any mention of this.  Has anyone
heard anything about this??

TIA

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Re: auto-negotiate not reliable

2000-09-11 Thread Dale Holmes

Different vendors implement auto-negotiate in different ways, and sometimes 
those ways are at odds... There is no way to tell whether the firmware in a 
given vendor's NIC is going to respond and react as Cisco expects it too in 
an autonegotiation process. As a general rule of thumb, regardless of 
vendor, when it really matters - explicitly set it... don't do 
auto-negotiation.

Dale
[=`)


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Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a
NIC is not always reliable.

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Re: Ip helper address

2000-09-11 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

I don't understand this, wouldn't the client accept the second offer by
sending the seconds servers siaddr in the request packet. also DHCP standard
says that nowhere must a client accept the first offer and then stop
broadcasting. All servers will answer the clients DHCPDISCOVER broadcast
with any help it can or can not offer. The first server does not tell the
second server to shutup so as soon as the (second or 1nanosecond slower
server) receives the broadcast it will it will send a DHCPOFFER packet and
the client will reply with an DHCPREQUEST packet to the second server
(using the siaddr field) that will be ack'd by the second server with an
DHCPACK packet. This is all made quite clear in RFC 1541. So you can have
two DHCP servers on the same segment you just don't know which one will
serve the address to the client but both will try independent of each other
and the client will ot stop trying after receiving after a nack from a
server.
Duck
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 You have 2 DHCP servers on the same subnet??? This is probably not a good
 idea... it does not really provide redundancy or load balancing.
 The DHCP client will issue a request and accept the first response that it
 gets.

 If you split your scope such that half of your available addresses are on
 one server and half are on the other, you will *NOT* see that half of your
 clients use one server while half use the other. If for some reason one
 server always replies a nanosecond earlier than the other, then all
clients
 will accept the response from that server. Once that server is out of
 addresses, it will start sending nack's. The clients will start accepting
 those nack's and will not request an address again, even though the other
 DHCP server may have dozens of free addresses to offer.

 SO - in answer to your question, the ip helper address of 10.10.10.0 will
 allow your client's requests to reach all DHCP servers on that subnet,
 HOWEVER they will only accept leases from the first server from which they
 receive a response. Chances are that server will be the same one all the
 time, even after it runs out of addresses to offer...

 You *could* set up your DHCP servers such that the scope on EACH ONE is
 sufficient to offer leases to ALL of you clients, but that is probably a
 less than efficient use of your address space.

 I hope that this helps...

 Dale
 [=`)

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 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:10:44 -0500
 
 I am trying to put a statement on the remote router to allow the clients
to
 obtain an IP address accross the WAN.  I have used the ip helper-address
 command successfully.  My problem is that i would like any of the DHCP
 servers at the central site to be able to service DHCP requests from the
 remote site.  Do I have to use mutilple ip helper-address statements ?  I
 have tried  a helper address pointing to the subnet, but that does not
seem
 to work. EX. i have DHCP servers at 10.10.10.10 and 10.10.10.11 do i have
 to
 use two seperate ip helper address statements or can i use ip
 helper-address
 10.10.10.0 ?
 
 
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Re: *****Philadelphia , PA Lab Study Partner******

2000-09-11 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

Yeah what kind of equipment do you have to swap
Duck
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 I am looking for I guess a Mid-Level CCNP Study partner (or hands on job
 :) ) I have yet to take any tests, but am aiming for Fundamentals in the
 Same Philadelphia/ South Jersey Area. Maybe if not study at least a
 borrow/swap/rent equipment partner.

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 I could also join you in Philly area




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 I replied to you before J K. I live in Philly. I am about to take my last
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a
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Re: auto-negotiate not reliable

2000-09-11 Thread ROUTHIER, YVES

hello

the reason why is ,

when they come out with the standar of auto-sense they got some hole in
the standar and some equipment manufacture complete those hole as they
thing is good for them

hope I'm clear

Yves Routhier

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1 down, 3 to go!!! (question) ;)

2000-09-11 Thread NeoLink2000

Hey Group,
I just passed the BCMSN this morning with a decent score of 803/1000. I only 
studied for this test for a month and a week. I was scared that I was going to fail it 
because this was the first time I scheduled a test before even finishing a book. I 
guess I gave myself a deadline, which I am not going to do again. I need to relax ;)  
I have a question now. I want to go for my BSCN but it's still not out (cisco press). 
I know I can read the ACRC and a couple others but I just feel better when I have the 
new stuff. I did a search and found this book. I have seen them around and have the 
CCIE all in one study guide by them but I don't know how their credibility is. Here is 
the info "McGraw Hill Text; ISBN: 0072124776" This is a BSCN book but if it's not good 
I will just go with the BCRAN and wait for the big one to come out. Please, any insite 
on this publisher/book will be appreciated. Thanks group,

Mark Z ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP

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RE: auto-negotiate not reliable

2000-09-11 Thread Healis, Jim

I have seen problems like this with certain NIC cards, in particular my
experience has been poor with 3Com PC Cards.  Also, auto-negotiation seems
to be problematic between Sun machines and Cisco equipment.  The best I can
tell is when both sides are set to "auto" they never are able to decide on
one setting or the other and eventually fail due to the numerous errors on
the interface that accrue while trying to negotiate.
I have always played with the settings on the switch port until I see no
errors.

Jim Healis, CCDP, CCNP
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Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a
NIC is not always reliable.

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RE: auto-negotiate not reliable

2000-09-11 Thread Roan, Wayne

That is correct.  The cards and the switch will continue to "negotiate" for
every tranmission.  You need to change one of them to a certain speed.  They
are both trying to figure out which speed to run at.  If you make one run at
a certain speed, this problem will go away.  I always set the NIC to a
certain speed 10 or 100.

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I have seen problems like this with certain NIC cards, in particular my
experience has been poor with 3Com PC Cards.  Also, auto-negotiation seems
to be problematic between Sun machines and Cisco equipment.  The best I can
tell is when both sides are set to "auto" they never are able to decide on
one setting or the other and eventually fail due to the numerous errors on
the interface that accrue while trying to negotiate.
I have always played with the settings on the switch port until I see no
errors.

Jim Healis, CCDP, CCNP
Senior Network Administrator
Virata
p: 408/566-1004
c: 408/210-8122

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Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a
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RE: what is dark fiber?

2000-09-11 Thread Stanfield Hilman B(Brad) CONT NSSG

The obvious answer here is... "It Depends"
If you search on Dark Fiber, you will get a number of answers.

Dark fiber refers to unused fiber-optic cable. Often times companies lay
more lines than what's needed in order to curb costs of having to do it
again and again. The dark strands can be leased to individuals or other
companies who want to establish optical connections among their own
locations. 

In this case, the fiber is neither controlled by nor connected to the owning
company. Instead, the  leasing company or individual provides the necessary
components to make it functional. 


Please let this thread die... The last 20 posts have done nothing to further
the knowledge gained, only repeat the explanations over and over and
ultimately waste bandwidth.
 


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To: Yee, Jason; 'bahadir korkmaz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what is dark fiber?


Dark fiber is fiber that is not being used. ie, no light is passed through
it, hence the term "dark"




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 I think dark fibre means a OC3 or OC12 link

 Jason

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 hi.
 what is dark fiber?
 i found some sites that says dark fiber means unused fiber.
 is it so?
 i think dark fiber must be different then unused fiber.
 i mean for example. 10gigabit ethernet runs on dark fiber.
 dark must be something related to bandwidth or wavelength.

 if someone knows dark fiber definition i ll be happy.
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Re: Ip helper address

2000-09-11 Thread Dale Holmes

Perhaps I should be more clear about this and say that this is the behaviour 
of MICROSOFT DHCP clients. Here is the info from the Windows NT Resource 
kit:

"Note:   The client accepts the first offer it receives, regardless of 
whether the offer came from a DHCP server on the local subnet or from a DHCP 
server on a different subnet. ... In the case where the DHCP server is 
unavailable or there is no available IP addressing information to lease to a 
client computer, the client is unable to bind to TCP/IP."

An MS DHCP client may receive many DHCPOFFER's for its DHCPDISCOVER 
broadcast. It will accept the first offer it receives (actually, the first 
response it gets), and NACK all others. If the first response it gets is 
negative, it will settle for that, and NACK anything from the other servers. 
I have seen this (and sniffer traced it) in production. MS was unwilling to 
call it a bug, and said the behaviour was by design and was RFC compliant. 
Case was closed...

This was NT 4.0 Service pack 4 with Win98 clients. I dunno if they have 
changed things since, but I doubt it.

Dale
[=`)




From: "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Dale Holmes" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
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Subject: Re: Ip helper address
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:36:49 -0700

I don't understand this, wouldn't the client accept the second offer by
sending the seconds servers siaddr in the request packet. also DHCP 
standard
says that nowhere must a client accept the first offer and then stop
broadcasting. All servers will answer the clients DHCPDISCOVER broadcast
with any help it can or can not offer. The first server does not tell the
second server to shutup so as soon as the (second or 1nanosecond slower
server) receives the broadcast it will it will send a DHCPOFFER packet and
the client will reply with an DHCPREQUEST packet to the second server
(using the siaddr field) that will be ack'd by the second server with an
DHCPACK packet. This is all made quite clear in RFC 1541. So you can have
two DHCP servers on the same segment you just don't know which one will
serve the address to the client but both will try independent of each other
and the client will ot stop trying after receiving after a nack from a
server.
Duck
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Subject: Re: Ip helper address


 
  You have 2 DHCP servers on the same subnet??? This is probably not a 
good
  idea... it does not really provide redundancy or load balancing.
  The DHCP client will issue a request and accept the first response that 
it
  gets.
 
  If you split your scope such that half of your available addresses are 
on
  one server and half are on the other, you will *NOT* see that half of 
your
  clients use one server while half use the other. If for some reason one
  server always replies a nanosecond earlier than the other, then all
clients
  will accept the response from that server. Once that server is out of
  addresses, it will start sending nack's. The clients will start 
accepting
  those nack's and will not request an address again, even though the 
other
  DHCP server may have dozens of free addresses to offer.
 
  SO - in answer to your question, the ip helper address of 10.10.10.0 
will
  allow your client's requests to reach all DHCP servers on that subnet,
  HOWEVER they will only accept leases from the first server from which 
they
  receive a response. Chances are that server will be the same one all the
  time, even after it runs out of addresses to offer...
 
  You *could* set up your DHCP servers such that the scope on EACH ONE is
  sufficient to offer leases to ALL of you clients, but that is probably a
  less than efficient use of your address space.
 
  I hope that this helps...
 
  Dale
  [=`)
 
  From: "Dennis Bates" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Ip helper address
  Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:10:44 -0500
  
  I am trying to put a statement on the remote router to allow the 
clients
to
  obtain an IP address accross the WAN.  I have used the ip 
helper-address
  command successfully.  My problem is that i would like any of the DHCP
  servers at the central site to be able to service DHCP requests from 
the
  remote site.  Do I have to use mutilple ip helper-address statements ?  
I
  have tried  a helper address pointing to the subnet, but that does not
seem
  to work. EX. i have DHCP servers at 10.10.10.10 and 10.10.10.11 do i 
have
  to
  use two seperate ip helper address statements or can i use ip
  helper-address
  10.10.10.0 ?
  
  
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Re: ccnp 2.0

2000-09-11 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

You will be a CCNP 1 unless you update your switching exam. You don't need
to update your CCAN.
Duc
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 hi guys and gals,

 Anyone knows what track will I be ie 2.0 or 1.0 if I took all the 2.0
exams
 except my ccna is 1.0 and my clsc is 1.0


 what track will I be in 2.0 or 1.0 or I have to retake my ccna again and
 clsc again to gain 2.0 certification

 thanks


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Re: can pix act as a proxy ???

2000-09-11 Thread Kenneth

I don't think that it works as a proxy server but you can enable NAT to let
people access the internet using a private ip address.

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Re: Core Layer Design

2000-09-11 Thread Gabriel

The only thing "between" the core equipment and the distribution equipment
is cabling... network equipment is either a part of the distribution layer,
or a part of the core layer. (Or a part of the access layer.)

Cisco's recommended model is that the core consist strictly of layer-2
devices in order to maximize throughput; with high-performance layer-3
switches reaching the market, that's a less pressing consideration than it
used to be. For most applications, having your distribution-layer equipment
route to a layer-2 core is a good way to do things; however, multicast or
other advanced applications can benefit from a layer-3 core.

Most small-to-medium networks are not going to fully realize Cisco's Access/
Distribution/ Core model anyway; it's far more of an enterprise-network
design model than a universal paradigm.

Perhaps if you gave more concrete examples of what you're trying to do or
what your environment is?

-Gabriel McCall, CCDP/CCNP+Sec

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 I am looking for real life examples of layer 2 only switches connecting
the core layer to the distribution layer.  I've seen white papers
recommending to use and not use layer 2 only switches between the two
layers.

 If you have installed a layer 2 switch between the core and distribution
layer, please let me know the results.  If it caused problems, what were
they.  Did it solve problems?

 If you have URLs or other documentation that addresses this issues, we
would appreciate your input.

 Thank you in advance for your assistance.




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Fast Ethernet on 2612

2000-09-11 Thread Alex

Can I add a Fast Ethernet module to a 2612 router?
Thank you for your help.
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RE: auto-negotiate not reliable

2000-09-11 Thread Ledwidge, Feargal

As far as I'm aware - auto-sense is not a "standard", there sren't defined
specifcations for each vendor to follow.

Feargal

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hello

the reason why is ,

when they come out with the standar of auto-sense they got some hole in
the standar and some equipment manufacture complete those hole as they
thing is good for them

hope I'm clear

Yves Routhier

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Re: Access list

2000-09-11 Thread Ejay Hire

If you can Get a copy of the Cisco Press "Advanced Cisco Router 
Configuration", Chapter 3 (IP) and 4 (IPX) deals with Access lists, and 
helped me understand writing them and also how to apply them with maximum 
efficiency.

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hello,

can some one explain the appropriate procedure of both writing an extended
and standard access-list
eventually, i will be responsible for applying acl's on ourproduction
(cisco) routers.

here's what i do know standard acl's reference source addresses and
extended acl's refence source and destination
transport protocols and application protocols are used. Now im ready for an
educational journey into acl's.

thanks

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vsat svcs

2000-09-11 Thread atif-sat

acc to ccna book wan services are categorized as circuit switching(isdn)
packet switching(fr)...
how would one categorize vsat services

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Re: BGP on 2600?

2000-09-11 Thread Gabriel

I agree with all the below- in fact, my introduction ot the Cisco networking
world was through that configurator tool; I've built my networking knowledge
from product configurations back to theory instead of the more usual
reverse. It is occasionally flaky, and infrequesntly broken, but it by and
large is an excellent tool.

It doesn't let you configure an NM-1FE into a 26xx, though, even though it's
a working configuration.

-Gabriel McCall, CCDP/CCNP+Sec

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 Hey, Aaron, when's that lab scheduled?

 I wanted to add that one reason for keeping the Cisco configuration tool
 link handy is that Cisco appears to be committed to it, in terms of
keeping
 it current. There is information there, for example, that cannot be found
 within the regular product information pages on CCO.

 So, for example, there is nary a word about the 2650 and 2651 in the
product
 documentation or catalogue, but the configuration tool has the product,
DRAM
 and flash maximums and minimums, as well as all the modules available.

 The reseller's version of the page also includes information on expected
 lead time between ordering and shipping.

 I haven't fooled around with it too much, but among the tools offered to
 members of the consultant's program is a handy little matrix that allows
one
 to specify technologies, ports, etc and then come up with a list of
products
 matching those requirements.

 Cisco continues to make every effort to offer first rate tools and support
 to interested parties. Having recently visited a couple of Cisco
competitor
 web sites to find things, I can say that the competition is in general a
bit
 behind in this area.

 Yes there are some shortcomings. The information provided about the CVPN
 line, for example, borders on pathetic. But situations like this appear to
 be the rare exception, not the general rule.

 Here's the link one more time. Check it out. It can be a valuable part of
 your study and professional arsenal.

 http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/config_root.pl

 Chuck


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 If you get one of the 2600 models with the 80MHz processor you can run 128
 MB RAM.  The 40 and 50 MHz processors only support 64 MB of RAM.

 The 80 MHz processor only comes in the 265x models.

 Regards,
 Aaron K. Dixon

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 I read a few weeks back that someone has a 2600 series router with 128mb
RAM
 in in.

 Can someone confirm, or deny that you can put 128mb RAM in a 2600?

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RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.

2000-09-11 Thread Sam Adams

I thought H1-B were suppose to be paid at market rate?

BTW, it takes about 3 months to transfer a H1-B so if the foreign workers do
not like their jobs then they have no recourse but work until it is
transferred.  Or not work until it is transferred.  They don't have it easy
either.

IMHO, it seems that the only winners are the companies who hire them.


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Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


/
A thought that occurred to me is.how do all the H-1Bs get experience
when supposedly the U.S. is so much more technically advanced than most
other countries?

Maybe U.S. corporations do not require H-1Bs to have experience because they
work for so much less.

As I said,  just a thought.
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To: ElephantChild [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


It's not on topic for [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is about getting
certifications, not jobs.

ElephantChild, I say it has alot to do " ... about getting certifications,
..."  If you have a Certification, but no experience, what is it called or
what is the state, status of your certification - you are a PAPER .
At least, that is what is advocated by some; therefore, at least, in part,
this is applicable whether you are a CCNA, CCDA, CCxx, CCIE, xNx, MSxx,
etc. [Extended to Novell, Micrsoft, ...]

At least with Cisco devices, at the lower end, it is hard for people to
beg, borrow or steal an entry level position.  And then, to paraphrase,
they must pay there dues and proceed with their career.  At the upper end,
sacrifice and hard work, money, prestige, status and on going work to stay
current.

In that it follows the path of least resistance, Capitalism starts to
acquire the properties of electricity.  Capitalism is a predicated on the
ability to produce and sell a product [or service] at the least expense
for the highest margin possible.  If your type of services are needed and
you are a bono fide, card carrying CCxx, MSxx, xNx, you have expectations
about market value, time in industry, what you know, who you know, how
much you know, etc.  To repeat, you have expectations of what you are
worth.

What happens, since you want x money and you can't get any work because
you are just a PAPER  at your new expertise level because joe/jane doe
will do the work for a fraction of what you have come to expect, probably
deserve and the market used to bear.  [Union shops come to mind.]

Suddenly, H1B and Certification are entwined - up to your and my neck.
Then, to take it a step further, what happens when an H1B starts under
cutting another H1B.  At that point, we are all on a downward spiral - if
not already.

Other than,  "It's not on topic ...", please explain your position
ElephantChild.






ElephantChild wrote:

 On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, cryptobyte wrote:

  Given this venue, H1-B seems on topic.  Just sharing from
  Greenspun.com:LUSENET:{GICC)

 It's not on topic for [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is about getting
 certifications, not jobs. And as for [EMAIL PROTECTED], any archive
 search would've shown that this was discussed before, generating much
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Re: Excessive collisions

2000-09-11 Thread John Neiberger

What are the stats?  "Excessive" is highly relative.  You may be seeing a
lot of collisions, but that would be expected if you have a lot of traffic
through that port. If there is no setting in the 4500 for speed or duplex,
then it is running 10 Mbps/half duplex.  In half duplex world, collisions
happen by design.

  I have a 4500 with a two port Ethernet module. Each port on the module
  connects to a different 2924 switch and is in a different subnet. I keep
  getting excessive collisions on the Ethernet interfaces, no runts, no
  giants, no CRC errors, just collisions. Any thoughts? There is no command
to
  set the duplex or speed on the module.
  
  Thanks,
  
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Re: Excessive collisions

2000-09-11 Thread Lonnie Paschall

Thank you. I verified that the module that I have is only half duplex /
10BaseT and the collisions are not as excessive as I first thought.

Lonnie
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 What are the stats?  "Excessive" is highly relative.  You may be seeing a
 lot of collisions, but that would be expected if you have a lot of traffic
 through that port. If there is no setting in the 4500 for speed or duplex,
 then it is running 10 Mbps/half duplex.  In half duplex world, collisions
 happen by design.

   I have a 4500 with a two port Ethernet module. Each port on the module
   connects to a different 2924 switch and is in a different subnet. I
keep
   getting excessive collisions on the Ethernet interfaces, no runts, no
   giants, no CRC errors, just collisions. Any thoughts? There is no
command
 to
   set the duplex or speed on the module.
 
   Thanks,
 
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Re: 1 down, 3 to go!!! (question) ;)

2000-09-11 Thread Mark Patrick

The book from McGraw Hill is fuul of errors. Starting
on page one. The second edition had fixed some errors
but still there are too many to list here.

That's my .02$ Good luck... R/ Mark

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going to fail it because this was the first time I scheduled a test before
even finishing a book. I guess I gave myself a deadline, which I am not
going to do again. I need to relax ;)  I have a question now. I want to go
for my BSCN but it's still not out (cisco press). I know I can read the ACRC
and a couple others but I just feel better when I have the new stuff. I did
a search and found this book. I have seen them around and have the CCIE all
in one study guide by them but I don't know how their credibility is. Here
is the info "McGraw Hill Text; ISBN: 0072124776" This is a BSCN book but if
it's not good I will just go with the BCRAN and wait for the big one to come
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Re: password and enblepass commands on catalyst 6509

2000-09-11 Thread Gabriel

When you get a "Usage: blahblah" response to a command, it means that your
syntax was not correct, and that you need to use the 'blahblah' syntax
instead of whatever you did. IF you had correctly set the password, it would
have said "Password changed" or some such thing.

You should have done something like this:

6509-1 (enable) set password consolepass
 Usage: set password
6509-1 (enable) set password
 Enter old password:
etc.

Hope this helps...

Gabriel McCall, CCDP/CCNP+Sec


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 I have a problem getting new passwords to work on the Catalyst 6509 switch
 that i have on the job. I logged to the switch from the network using
 tacacs+ account. I pasted what I did below. Please help me figure out what
 the problem is.


 Thanks

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 6509-1 (enable) set password consolepass
 Usage: set password
 6509-1 (enable) set enablepass enable
 Usage: set enablepass
 6509-1 (enable) disable
 6509-1 enable
 Password:new password

 % Authentication failed.
 Password:new password

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Fixed Wireless Internet MMDS

2000-09-11 Thread Darly Coupet

Two-way internet data and work in the bands between 2.4 GHz and 2.6GHz.

Please provide comments on the usage, performance, bandwith, reliability, etc.

All comments will be greatly appreciated.

Darly 

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Re: static route question ??

2000-09-11 Thread Gabriel

In a static topology, there's no need for a dynamic routing protocol. Only
when the lack of flexibility and slow (manual) reconfiguration become issues
do you need to think about routing protocols. For a simple, stable network,
use static routes.

-Gabriel McCall, CCDP/CCNP+Sec

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 HI all.
 Situation:
 There is a central site in San Francisco, and four
 branches around Bay area.
 Since static route gives us faster traffic
 transmission, would it be the most desirable way to
 configure static route on all routers, regardless
 whether it is a central site router or branch office
 router?
 If not, why not?

 Thanks in adv.

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Re: static route question ??

2000-09-11 Thread Ejay Hire

If there are no redundant links, then static routing will be faster.
If there is a redundant link, Dynamic routing will give the benefit of fault 
tolerance.


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Subject: static route question ??
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:54:54 -0700 (PDT)

HI all.
Situation:
There is a central site in San Francisco, and four
branches around Bay area.
Since static route gives us faster traffic
transmission, would it be the most desirable way to
configure static route on all routers, regardless
whether it is a central site router or branch office
router?
If not, why not?

Thanks in adv.

jeongwoo


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Re: Fast Ethernet on 2612

2000-09-11 Thread Gabriel

You can, and it does work, but it's not a Cisco-supported configuration. I'm
guessing because of backplane/ throughput issues, but I've never heard any
official explanation.

I've verified this with NM-1FE's... haven't tried with the new FE/WIC
modules.

-Gabriel McCall, CCDP/CCNP+Sec

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Re: Excessive collisions

2000-09-11 Thread Gabriel


If you have the old NP-2E, your ports are 10mbps half duplex. If you have
the newer NP-2E-FDX, you have the option to set port duplex on the RJ-45
ports (not the AUIs) with the commands HALF-DUPLEX or FULL-DUPLEX at the
config-if prompt.

You can't set speed on a 10mbps module. The NP-1FE does support the SPEED
command, but if you have a 2-port ethernet module it's definitely just
10mbps.

-Gabriel McCall, CCDP/CCNP+Sec

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 I have a 4500 with a two port Ethernet module. Each port on the module
 connects to a different 2924 switch and is in a different subnet. I keep
 getting excessive collisions on the Ethernet interfaces, no runts, no
 giants, no CRC errors, just collisions. Any thoughts? There is no command
to
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 Thanks,

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Re: Excessive collisions

2000-09-11 Thread Kevin Wigle

Older models of the two port ethernet module for the 45xx series do not do
full duplex.  Newer models (last year or so) can do full duplex. (I think)

No models do 100 meg, you need a FastEthernet module for that so you can't
config speed.

So I would wager that you have 2 ports of 10 meg half duplex.  Configure
your switches accordingly.

Kevin Wigle


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From: "John Neiberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: Excessive collisions


 What are the stats?  "Excessive" is highly relative.  You may be seeing a
 lot of collisions, but that would be expected if you have a lot of traffic
 through that port. If there is no setting in the 4500 for speed or duplex,
 then it is running 10 Mbps/half duplex.  In half duplex world, collisions
 happen by design.

   I have a 4500 with a two port Ethernet module. Each port on the module
   connects to a different 2924 switch and is in a different subnet. I
keep
   getting excessive collisions on the Ethernet interfaces, no runts, no
   giants, no CRC errors, just collisions. Any thoughts? There is no
command
 to
   set the duplex or speed on the module.
 
   Thanks,
 
   Lonnie
 
 
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Re: Excessive collisions

2000-09-11 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

You may want to set your switch speed to 10Mbits an match up your duplex
too.
Duck
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Subject: Excessive collisions


 I have a 4500 with a two port Ethernet module. Each port on the module
 connects to a different 2924 switch and is in a different subnet. I keep
 getting excessive collisions on the Ethernet interfaces, no runts, no
 giants, no CRC errors, just collisions. Any thoughts? There is no command
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Cisco's site??? Is it down?

2000-09-11 Thread g_study

I have been trying to go to http://www.cisco.com for about 4 days an it
apears to be down. Is anyone else having any problems?

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Where can I find ERRATA for Andrew Caslow's book?

2000-09-11 Thread George Zhang

Where can I find ERRATA for Andrew Caslow's book?

This question is probably asked and answered before.  I tried to do an
archive search at www.groupstudy.com.  However, it seems that the search
engine is down again.  So I have to ask it here again.  I apologize for
that.

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Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.

2000-09-11 Thread Dick Silva

/
H-1Bs are not paid at market rate even though it is federal law.

In Clearwater, FL there is a company that recruits only H-1Bs from other
countries.
One of their salesman was being interviewed by the local newspaper, St
Petersburg Times, and he was naming off the advantages of hiring foreign
workers, and I quote, "We just placed one man in Boston for $55k/yr if it
had been an American they would have had to pay $85K/yr".
I keep wondering about that level playing field George Bush Sr was always
talking about.

Like the man said...The H-1B program is a fraud.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


I thought H1-B were suppose to be paid at market rate?

BTW, it takes about 3 months to transfer a H1-B so if the foreign workers
do
not like their jobs then they have no recourse but work until it is
transferred.  Or not work until it is transferred.  They don't have it easy
either.

IMHO, it seems that the only winners are the companies who hire them.


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Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


/
A thought that occurred to me is.how do all the H-1Bs get experience
when supposedly the U.S. is so much more technically advanced than most
other countries?

Maybe U.S. corporations do not require H-1Bs to have experience because
they
work for so much less.

As I said,  just a thought.
\
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To: ElephantChild [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


It's not on topic for [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is about getting
certifications, not jobs.

ElephantChild, I say it has alot to do " ... about getting certifications,
..."  If you have a Certification, but no experience, what is it called or
what is the state, status of your certification - you are a PAPER .
At least, that is what is advocated by some; therefore, at least, in part,
this is applicable whether you are a CCNA, CCDA, CCxx, CCIE, xNx, MSxx,
etc. [Extended to Novell, Micrsoft, ...]

At least with Cisco devices, at the lower end, it is hard for people to
beg, borrow or steal an entry level position.  And then, to paraphrase,
they must pay there dues and proceed with their career.  At the upper end,
sacrifice and hard work, money, prestige, status and on going work to stay
current.

In that it follows the path of least resistance, Capitalism starts to
acquire the properties of electricity.  Capitalism is a predicated on the
ability to produce and sell a product [or service] at the least expense
for the highest margin possible.  If your type of services are needed and
you are a bono fide, card carrying CCxx, MSxx, xNx, you have expectations
about market value, time in industry, what you know, who you know, how
much you know, etc.  To repeat, you have expectations of what you are
worth.

What happens, since you want x money and you can't get any work because
you are just a PAPER  at your new expertise level because joe/jane doe
will do the work for a fraction of what you have come to expect, probably
deserve and the market used to bear.  [Union shops come to mind.]

Suddenly, H1B and Certification are entwined - up to your and my neck.
Then, to take it a step further, what happens when an H1B starts under
cutting another H1B.  At that point, we are all on a downward spiral - if
not already.

Other than,  "It's not on topic ...", please explain your position
ElephantChild.






ElephantChild wrote:

 On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, cryptobyte wrote:

  Given this venue, H1-B seems on topic.  Just sharing from
  Greenspun.com:LUSENET:{GICC)

 It's not on topic for [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is about getting
 certifications, not jobs. And as for [EMAIL PROTECTED], any archive
 search would've shown that this was discussed before, generating much
 heat, little light, and no discernible change of position on either
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Looking for CCIE lab study partner in Toronto

2000-09-11 Thread Richard

Hello,

I'm looking for CCIE lab study partner in Toronto area to build a lab
If anyone living in that area interested, please reply :)

Thanks



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Re: static route question ??

2000-09-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Just being picky, but I can't see how static routing would give you faster 
traffic transmission than dynamic routing. The router still looks into the 
routing table and finds a route for the first process-switched packet. From 
then on it uses the fast-switching cache, (unless configured not to do so.) 
But just because it's a static route instead of a dynamic route doesn't 
make it any faster.

Static routing uses less bandwidth because no routing updates are sent, but 
that's a different concern. Also, dynamic routing protocols can be slow to 
converge when problems occur, but fast-converging protocols such as EIGRP 
and OSPF wouldn't have this problem. Also, if you just have single links 
and no redundancy, there's nothing to converge to anyway.

Static routes will work but could get cumbersome to configure and maintain 
as your network grows. Also, do the branch offices just need to get to the 
central office, or do the branches talk to each other? If so, a default 
route or a routing protocol might be a better option to avoid having to 
specify each network.

Priscilla

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Subject: static route question ??
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:54:54 -0700 (PDT)

HI all.
Situation:
There is a central site in San Francisco, and four
branches around Bay area.
Since static route gives us faster traffic
transmission, would it be the most desirable way to
configure static route on all routers, regardless
whether it is a central site router or branch office
router?
If not, why not?

Thanks in adv.

jeongwoo





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Re: Cisco's site??? Is it down?

2000-09-11 Thread Gabriel

No problems here. Problem's on your side.

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 I have been trying to go to http://www.cisco.com for about 4 days an it
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Re: static route question ??

2000-09-11 Thread willy george

Static routes does seem the best way to go in your situation. If it is a hub and spoke 
arrangment as i believe it to be in your case then static routes must be configured on 
the central router pointing to the networks on the remote locations and static routes 
must also be configured on the remote routers pointing to the networks on the central 
location.
There is definitely a performance advantage using static routes in this case.
Hope i have been of some help
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PIX to access inside server

2000-09-11 Thread SH Wesson

I am using a Cisco PIX 520 with an inside interface and an outside 
interface.  I have
the following scenario:

Internal server has an address of 10.10.1.150, the external server has an ip 
address
of 128.200.111.100.  The external server is in the dmz zone.  The internal 
server has
been assigned a global address 0f 128.200.111.150 that maps to the inside 
server
of ip address 10.10.1.150.  I want the external server of 128.200.111.100 to 
be able to
communicate with the inside server only through port 135.

I assigned a static ip address to the inside host with the following 
command:

static (inside,outside) 128.200.111.150 10.10.1.150 netmask 255.255.255.255 
0 0


I assigned the permission for the external server to be able to access the 
inside
server only via port 135 using the following command.

conduit permit tcp host 128.200.111.100 eq 135 host 128.200.111.150 eq 135


Is this the right way of doing it?  If I'm doing it wrong, can someone show 
me how to do this.

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pix

2000-09-11 Thread SH Wesson

I am using a Cisco PIX 520 with an inside interface and an outside 
interface.  I have
the following scenario:

Internal server has an address of 10.10.1.150, the external server has an ip 
address
of 128.200.111.100.  The external server is in the dmz zone.  The internal 
server has
been assigned a global address 0f 128.200.111.150 that maps to the inside 
server
of ip address 10.10.1.150.  I want the external server of 128.200.111.100 to 
be able to
communicate with the inside server only through port 135.

I assigned a static ip address to the inside host with the following 
command:

static (inside,outside) 128.200.111.150 10.10.1.150 netmask 255.255.255.255 
0 0


I assigned the permission for the external server to be able to access the 
inside
server only via port 135 using the following command.

conduit permit tcp host 128.200.111.100 eq 135 host 128.200.111.150 eq 135


Is this the right way of doing it?  If I'm doing it wrong, can someone show 
me how to do this.

Thanks.
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Re: what is wire-speed?

2000-09-11 Thread Paul Werner

 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:41:13 -0700
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is wire-speed?
 
 Wire speed means the switch can pump out packets as fast as 
the medium can handle. For example, the maximum packets-per-
second rate on 10-Mbps Ethernet with 64-byte packets is 14,880 
packets per second. This comes from
 
 Preamble =   64 bits
 64 Byte frame =  512 bits
 Interframe gap = 96 bits
 
 Total = 672 bits

 Max packets per second on 10 Mbps Ethernet = 10,000,000 / 672 
= 14,880  packets per second. A wire-speed switch, which most 
are, would have no  problem outputting that number of packets 
per second.
 
 If you were to use 1024 byte packets, the number is 1197 
packets per second  on 10Mbps Ethernet.
 
 So, yes, vendors do tend to use 64-byte packets when quoting 
their results,  because it gives them better numbers.
 
 The other thing vendors do is quote the results when using 
Gigabit  Ethernet. That's where numbers like millions of 
packets per second come  from. In addition, if the vendor's 
numbers are based on tests that output  to multiple ports, then 
you can get astronomical numbers, for example, 1.48 million 
packets per second multiplied by 100 ports. As you can probably 
 guess, this is a rudimentary way of specifying the 
performance of a switch  that is fraught with the over-
zealousness of marketing drones. ;-)
 
 Priscilla

Priscilla Makes some excellent points about switch performance 
and performance benchmarks.  A couple of extra notes on the 
subject.  There are actually some RFCs that cover this topic, 
namely RFC 1944 (somehwat relevant), RFC 2285 (relevant), RFC 
2289 (adds to RFC 2285).  Both of the 2200 series RFCs are 
titled, "Benchmarking Methodology for LAN Switching Devices."  
Please keep in mind, they are informational, and as such do not 
represent an Internet Standard.  Additionally, there was an 
excellent Networkers brief that covered this very topic from 
the bowels of Cisco's testing labs :-)  It was pretty 
informative and if anybody is interested, I can dig up the URL 
for the presentation.

HTH,

Paul Werner

p.s.  The definition of a 64 byte packet?- Ethernet 
marketing packet :-)
 



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Re: Job for Cisco professionals

2000-09-11 Thread mohd misba

Hi,

try dice.com

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 Dear friends,
 
 I am looking for job web sites for Cisco
 professionals, could any body point
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 Thanks in advance.
 
 Warm regards
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free Cisco VPN Book

2000-09-11 Thread Kenneth Lorenzo

Deploying Secure, Scaleable and Manageable Virtual Private Networks
If it ask you for the Unique Response Number, just enter whatever (na,
123, etc..)
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/3/emea/ent/vpn-7100/intro.html




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IGS or CGS ... Useful to have, or doorstops.

2000-09-11 Thread Ejay Hire

Does anyone know if the IGS runs IOS, and would it be owrth it to pick up a 
couple of these at a cheap price ($40).  Ditto for the CGS ($20)

Thanks,
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RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.

2000-09-11 Thread Sam Adams

I don't know what controls are in place to enforce the law.  But I would
think that someone tooting his horn about cheap foreign workers is asking
for trouble.  Perhaps, you should show the article to the INS or the
appropriate agency to put these guys out of business.  Not only are they
exploiting the system and the American people but exploiting the foreign
workers as well.

-Original Message-
From: Dick Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 12:43 PM
To: Sam Adams; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


/
H-1Bs are not paid at market rate even though it is federal law.

In Clearwater, FL there is a company that recruits only H-1Bs from other
countries.
One of their salesman was being interviewed by the local newspaper, St
Petersburg Times, and he was naming off the advantages of hiring foreign
workers, and I quote, "We just placed one man in Boston for $55k/yr if it
had been an American they would have had to pay $85K/yr".
I keep wondering about that level playing field George Bush Sr was always
talking about.

Like the man said...The H-1B program is a fraud.

-Original Message-
From: Sam Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


I thought H1-B were suppose to be paid at market rate?

BTW, it takes about 3 months to transfer a H1-B so if the foreign workers
do
not like their jobs then they have no recourse but work until it is
transferred.  Or not work until it is transferred.  They don't have it easy
either.

IMHO, it seems that the only winners are the companies who hire them.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Dick Silva
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:58 AM
To: cryptobyte; ElephantChild; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


/
A thought that occurred to me is.how do all the H-1Bs get experience
when supposedly the U.S. is so much more technically advanced than most
other countries?

Maybe U.S. corporations do not require H-1Bs to have experience because
they
work for so much less.

As I said,  just a thought.
\
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From: cryptobyte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ElephantChild [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


It's not on topic for [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is about getting
certifications, not jobs.

ElephantChild, I say it has alot to do " ... about getting certifications,
..."  If you have a Certification, but no experience, what is it called or
what is the state, status of your certification - you are a PAPER .
At least, that is what is advocated by some; therefore, at least, in part,
this is applicable whether you are a CCNA, CCDA, CCxx, CCIE, xNx, MSxx,
etc. [Extended to Novell, Micrsoft, ...]

At least with Cisco devices, at the lower end, it is hard for people to
beg, borrow or steal an entry level position.  And then, to paraphrase,
they must pay there dues and proceed with their career.  At the upper end,
sacrifice and hard work, money, prestige, status and on going work to stay
current.

In that it follows the path of least resistance, Capitalism starts to
acquire the properties of electricity.  Capitalism is a predicated on the
ability to produce and sell a product [or service] at the least expense
for the highest margin possible.  If your type of services are needed and
you are a bono fide, card carrying CCxx, MSxx, xNx, you have expectations
about market value, time in industry, what you know, who you know, how
much you know, etc.  To repeat, you have expectations of what you are
worth.

What happens, since you want x money and you can't get any work because
you are just a PAPER  at your new expertise level because joe/jane doe
will do the work for a fraction of what you have come to expect, probably
deserve and the market used to bear.  [Union shops come to mind.]

Suddenly, H1B and Certification are entwined - up to your and my neck.
Then, to take it a step further, what happens when an H1B starts under
cutting another H1B.  At that point, we are all on a downward spiral - if
not already.

Other than,  "It's not on topic ...", please explain your position
ElephantChild.






ElephantChild wrote:

 On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, cryptobyte wrote:

  Given this venue, H1-B seems on topic.  Just sharing from
  Greenspun.com:LUSENET:{GICC)

 It's not on topic for [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is about getting
 certifications, not jobs. And as for [EMAIL PROTECTED], any archive
 search would've shown that this was discussed before, generating much
 heat, little light, and no discernible change of position on either
 side.

 --
 Bungee jumping and skydiving are for wimps. If you want to 

ATM on CCIE LAB and CATM 2.1

2000-09-11 Thread Craig Henriques

Hello,

What is the best book or books to use for ATM on the CCIE Lab and to study
for CATM 2.1.

Thanks,

Craig


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Re: static route question ??

2000-09-11 Thread jeongwoo park

Thanks for your reply
Just want to clarify what I meant.
When I said that static route gives us faster traffic
transmission, it meant that static route's
administrative distance is 1, which is lower than
other dynamic routing protocols' administrative
distance.
Can I say this?
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks in adv.

jeongwoo


--- Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just being picky, but I can't see how static routing
 would give you faster 
 traffic transmission than dynamic routing. The
 router still looks into the 
 routing table and finds a route for the first
 process-switched packet. From 
 then on it uses the fast-switching cache, (unless
 configured not to do so.) 
 But just because it's a static route instead of a
 dynamic route doesn't 
 make it any faster.
 
 Static routing uses less bandwidth because no
 routing updates are sent, but 
 that's a different concern. Also, dynamic routing
 protocols can be slow to 
 converge when problems occur, but fast-converging
 protocols such as EIGRP 
 and OSPF wouldn't have this problem. Also, if you
 just have single links 
 and no redundancy, there's nothing to converge to
 anyway.
 
 Static routes will work but could get cumbersome to
 configure and maintain 
 as your network grows. Also, do the branch offices
 just need to get to the 
 central office, or do the branches talk to each
 other? If so, a default 
 route or a routing protocol might be a better option
 to avoid having to 
 specify each network.
 
 Priscilla
 
 Original Message Follows
 From: jeongwoo park [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: jeongwoo park [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: static route question ??
 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:54:54 -0700 (PDT)
 
 HI all.
 Situation:
 There is a central site in San Francisco, and four
 branches around Bay area.
 Since static route gives us faster traffic
 transmission, would it be the most desirable way to
 configure static route on all routers, regardless
 whether it is a central site router or branch
 office
 router?
 If not, why not?
 
 Thanks in adv.
 
 jeongwoo
 
 
 
 
 
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 http://www.priscilla.com
 
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Re: static route question ??

2000-09-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

That's correct, and having a lower administrative distance means that a 
static route is "preferred" over a dynamic route, but not "faster." If the 
router has more than one way to get to a network in its routing table, it 
selects the path with the lowest administrative distance, which would be a 
static route by default.

Sorry, if it seems like I'm being picky, but it sounded like maybe someone 
had told you the static route would be faster. It's probably just a 
language thing. We Americans expect everyone to understand our strange 
wordings! ;-)

Priscilla

At 03:09 PM 9/11/00, jeongwoo park wrote:
Thanks for your reply
Just want to clarify what I meant.
When I said that static route gives us faster traffic
transmission, it meant that static route's
administrative distance is 1, which is lower than
other dynamic routing protocols' administrative
distance.
Can I say this?
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks in adv.

jeongwoo


--- Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just being picky, but I can't see how static routing
  would give you faster
  traffic transmission than dynamic routing. The
  router still looks into the
  routing table and finds a route for the first
  process-switched packet. From
  then on it uses the fast-switching cache, (unless
  configured not to do so.)
  But just because it's a static route instead of a
  dynamic route doesn't
  make it any faster.
 
  Static routing uses less bandwidth because no
  routing updates are sent, but
  that's a different concern. Also, dynamic routing
  protocols can be slow to
  converge when problems occur, but fast-converging
  protocols such as EIGRP
  and OSPF wouldn't have this problem. Also, if you
  just have single links
  and no redundancy, there's nothing to converge to
  anyway.
 
  Static routes will work but could get cumbersome to
  configure and maintain
  as your network grows. Also, do the branch offices
  just need to get to the
  central office, or do the branches talk to each
  other? If so, a default
  route or a routing protocol might be a better option
  to avoid having to
  specify each network.
 
  Priscilla
 
  Original Message Follows
  From: jeongwoo park [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: jeongwoo park [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: static route question ??
  Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:54:54 -0700 (PDT)
  
  HI all.
  Situation:
  There is a central site in San Francisco, and four
  branches around Bay area.
  Since static route gives us faster traffic
  transmission, would it be the most desirable way to
  configure static route on all routers, regardless
  whether it is a central site router or branch
  office
  router?
  If not, why not?
  
  Thanks in adv.
  
  jeongwoo
  
 
 
  
 
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Tampa CCNP ( CCIE ? )Study Group

2000-09-11 Thread George H. York

Are there any around?  If not lets see if there are enough people around
to start one.

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RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.

2000-09-11 Thread Matt C. Lange

Hey just remember they are willing to take the pay cut to get citizenship.
Also, 50,000 grand is like 1 millions over there so I have been told by a
Consultant from India.   They come here take away american jobs and  make
there nest egg and go back as kings.
Just my two cents, Oh and I am not racist I would feel the same if it were
someone form Germany as well.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Sam Adams
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:12 PM
To: 'Dick Silva'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


I don't know what controls are in place to enforce the law.  But I would
think that someone tooting his horn about cheap foreign workers is asking
for trouble.  Perhaps, you should show the article to the INS or the
appropriate agency to put these guys out of business.  Not only are they
exploiting the system and the American people but exploiting the foreign
workers as well.

-Original Message-
From: Dick Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 12:43 PM
To: Sam Adams; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


/
H-1Bs are not paid at market rate even though it is federal law.

In Clearwater, FL there is a company that recruits only H-1Bs from other
countries.
One of their salesman was being interviewed by the local newspaper, St
Petersburg Times, and he was naming off the advantages of hiring foreign
workers, and I quote, "We just placed one man in Boston for $55k/yr if it
had been an American they would have had to pay $85K/yr".
I keep wondering about that level playing field George Bush Sr was always
talking about.

Like the man said...The H-1B program is a fraud.

-Original Message-
From: Sam Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


I thought H1-B were suppose to be paid at market rate?

BTW, it takes about 3 months to transfer a H1-B so if the foreign workers
do
not like their jobs then they have no recourse but work until it is
transferred.  Or not work until it is transferred.  They don't have it easy
either.

IMHO, it seems that the only winners are the companies who hire them.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Dick Silva
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:58 AM
To: cryptobyte; ElephantChild; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


/
A thought that occurred to me is.how do all the H-1Bs get experience
when supposedly the U.S. is so much more technically advanced than most
other countries?

Maybe U.S. corporations do not require H-1Bs to have experience because
they
work for so much less.

As I said,  just a thought.
\
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From: cryptobyte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ElephantChild [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


It's not on topic for [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is about getting
certifications, not jobs.

ElephantChild, I say it has alot to do " ... about getting certifications,
..."  If you have a Certification, but no experience, what is it called or
what is the state, status of your certification - you are a PAPER .
At least, that is what is advocated by some; therefore, at least, in part,
this is applicable whether you are a CCNA, CCDA, CCxx, CCIE, xNx, MSxx,
etc. [Extended to Novell, Micrsoft, ...]

At least with Cisco devices, at the lower end, it is hard for people to
beg, borrow or steal an entry level position.  And then, to paraphrase,
they must pay there dues and proceed with their career.  At the upper end,
sacrifice and hard work, money, prestige, status and on going work to stay
current.

In that it follows the path of least resistance, Capitalism starts to
acquire the properties of electricity.  Capitalism is a predicated on the
ability to produce and sell a product [or service] at the least expense
for the highest margin possible.  If your type of services are needed and
you are a bono fide, card carrying CCxx, MSxx, xNx, you have expectations
about market value, time in industry, what you know, who you know, how
much you know, etc.  To repeat, you have expectations of what you are
worth.

What happens, since you want x money and you can't get any work because
you are just a PAPER  at your new expertise level because joe/jane doe
will do the work for a fraction of what you have come to expect, probably
deserve and the market used to bear.  [Union shops come to mind.]

Suddenly, H1B and Certification are entwined - up to your and my neck.
Then, to take it a step further, what happens when an H1B starts under
cutting another H1B.  At that point, we are all on a downward spiral 

RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.

2000-09-11 Thread JEROME OKOLO

It's amazing how certain people assume that they are the only ones who have 
foreigners employed in their country. There are many good jobs from where i 
come from that are being done by expatriates. Even though there is no 
shortage of qualified citizens. Get over it guys and realize that what gets 
you a job is your intelligence and your skills, not some accident of birth.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Matt C. Lange" [EMAIL PROTECTED],Sam Adams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Dick Silva'" [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 19:08:18 -0400

/
And while they have your job, ie, you're not working, your family is 
hungry,
what is your point?
\



Quoting "Matt C. Lange" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hey just remember they are willing to take the pay cut to get 
citizenship.
  Also, 50,000 grand is like 1 millions over there so I have been told by 
a
  Consultant from India.   They come here take away american jobs and  
make
  there nest egg and go back as kings.
  Just my two cents, Oh and I am not racist I would feel the same if it 
were
  someone form Germany as well.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Sam Adams
  Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:12 PM
  To: 'Dick Silva'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
 
 
  I don't know what controls are in place to enforce the law.  But I would
  think that someone tooting his horn about cheap foreign workers is 
asking
  for trouble.  Perhaps, you should show the article to the INS or the
  appropriate agency to put these guys out of business.  Not only are they
  exploiting the system and the American people but exploiting the foreign
  workers as well.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dick Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 12:43 PM
  To: Sam Adams; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
 
 
  /
  H-1Bs are not paid at market rate even though it is federal law.
 
  In Clearwater, FL there is a company that recruits only H-1Bs from other
  countries.
  One of their salesman was being interviewed by the local newspaper, St
  Petersburg Times, and he was naming off the advantages of hiring foreign
  workers, and I quote, "We just placed one man in Boston for $55k/yr if 
it
  had been an American they would have had to pay $85K/yr".
  I keep wondering about that level playing field George Bush Sr was 
always
  talking about.
 
  Like the man said...The H-1B program is a fraud.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sam Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:29 PM
  Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
 
 
  I thought H1-B were suppose to be paid at market rate?
  
  BTW, it takes about 3 months to transfer a H1-B so if the foreign 
workers
  do
  not like their jobs then they have no recourse but work until it is
  transferred.  Or not work until it is transferred.  They don't have it
  easy
  either.
  
  IMHO, it seems that the only winners are the companies who hire them.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Dick Silva
  Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:58 AM
  To: cryptobyte; ElephantChild; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
  
  
  /
  A thought that occurred to me is.how do all the H-1Bs get 
experience
  when supposedly the U.S. is so much more technically advanced than most
  other countries?
  
  Maybe U.S. corporations do not require H-1Bs to have experience because
  they
  work for so much less.
  
  As I said,  just a thought.
  \
  -Original Message-
  From: cryptobyte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: ElephantChild [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:28 AM
  Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
  
  
  It's not on topic for [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is about getting
  certifications, not jobs.
  
  ElephantChild, I say it has alot to do " ... about getting
  certifications,
  ..."  If you have a Certification, but no experience, what is it 
called
  or
  what is the state, status of your certification - you are a PAPER 
.
  At least, that is what is advocated by some; therefore, at least, in
  part,
  this is applicable whether you are a CCNA, CCDA, CCxx, CCIE, xNx, 
MSxx,
  etc. [Extended to Novell, Micrsoft, ...]
  
  At least with Cisco devices, at the lower end, it is hard for people 
to
  beg, borrow or steal an entry level position.  And then, to 
paraphrase,
  they must pay there dues and proceed with their career.  At the upper
  end,
  sacrifice and hard work, money, prestige, status and 

RE: You have received a George W. Bush Ecard from Matt Lange

2000-09-11 Thread Matt C. Lange

If you like socialism vote for Al Gore!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Erik
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 12:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: You have received a George W. Bush Ecard from Matt Lange


Mr. Matt C. Lange, This is spam, and a very offensive one. before you come
here trying to learn networking, I suggest you learn basic netiquette,
please refer to: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt?number=1855
here is another one for you;
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1594.txt?number=1594

-Erik
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 6:36 PM
Subject: You have received a George W. Bush Ecard from Matt Lange


| [EMAIL PROTECTED], you have received a eCard from Matt Lange at e-mail
address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To pick up your virtual postcard, go to the George W. Bush website at:
| www.donkeyshow.com



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MCMSN

2000-09-11 Thread sanjay Hooda


Hi all
I just passed Routing 2.0. can some one tell me good
links for switching 2.0.
is cisco press book en.. for switching
thanks
sanjay hooda

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Re: Static Route as Default Route on Int. Ethernet 0

2000-09-11 Thread Pedro Quezada

ther shoudl not be collision on a swiched port .by nature each port on a
switch becomes a collison domain.Only one thing That came on to my mind as
I read you statement .

check the connection speed on the switched ports and force them to be the
same on the connection port to r1 to the switch an r2 to the switch.



Kuncoro Wijaya wrote:

 Dear all,

 I have also one problem regarding the a.m matters.

 We have a network conf. as follows :

  INTERNET 
 |
 |
(X) Router from ISP (R1)
 |E0 : 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
 | (a Class C, just for example)
 |
  |Switch|
 |
 |
 |E0 : 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
(X) Our Router (R2)
 |E1
 |
   
   | | | |
  Our Network

 In our router, R2, we have a command line like this:
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1

 The static route (default route) is working, however,
 when we look at the interface E0 of R2 (sh int e0), we
 see a lot of collisions.

 Could the problem be arisen due to the nature of
 ethernet connection (CSMA/CD), although we have used a
 switch to connect to E0 of R1? And how to overcome
 this problem as it is the service given by the ISP ?

 I need your analysis on this.

 Thanks in adv

 Kuncoro

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:23 PM
 To: jeongwoo park; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: static route question ??

 That's correct, and having a lower administrative
 distance means that a
 static route is "preferred" over a dynamic route, but
 not "faster." If the
 router has more than one way to get to a network in
 its routing table, it
 selects the path with the lowest administrative
 distance, which would be a
 static route by default.

 Sorry, if it seems like I'm being picky, but it
 sounded like maybe someone
 had told you the static route would be faster. It's
 probably just a
 language thing. We Americans expect everyone to
 understand our strange
 wordings! ;-)

 Priscilla

 At 03:09 PM 9/11/00, jeongwoo park wrote:
 Thanks for your reply
 Just want to clarify what I meant.
 When I said that static route gives us faster traffic
 transmission, it meant that static route's
 administrative distance is 1, which is lower than
 other dynamic routing protocols' administrative
 distance.
 Can I say this?
 Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
 Thanks in adv.
 
 jeongwoo

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RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.

2000-09-11 Thread William E Gragido

I belive that this topic has a history of being regurgitated on this list.
H1B visas do one thing and that is weaken the economy of the nation by
allowing for a flood of underpriced competition into the market.  Its
unfortunate and although it may seem an abrupt attitude to adopt, I for one
do not believe that by believing this to be the truth makes a person a
xenophobe.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 6:08 PM
 To: Matt C. Lange; Sam Adams; 'Dick Silva'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.


 /
 And while they have your job, ie, you're not working, your family
 is hungry,
 what is your point?
 \



 Quoting "Matt C. Lange" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hey just remember they are willing to take the pay cut to get
 citizenship.
  Also, 50,000 grand is like 1 millions over there so I have been
 told by a
  Consultant from India.   They come here take away american jobs
 and  make
  there nest egg and go back as kings.
  Just my two cents, Oh and I am not racist I would feel the same
 if it were
  someone form Germany as well.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Sam Adams
  Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:12 PM
  To: 'Dick Silva'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
 
 
  I don't know what controls are in place to enforce the law.  But I would
  think that someone tooting his horn about cheap foreign workers
 is asking
  for trouble.  Perhaps, you should show the article to the INS or the
  appropriate agency to put these guys out of business.  Not only are they
  exploiting the system and the American people but exploiting the foreign
  workers as well.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dick Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 12:43 PM
  To: Sam Adams; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
 
 
  /
  H-1Bs are not paid at market rate even though it is federal law.
 
  In Clearwater, FL there is a company that recruits only H-1Bs from other
  countries.
  One of their salesman was being interviewed by the local newspaper, St
  Petersburg Times, and he was naming off the advantages of hiring foreign
  workers, and I quote, "We just placed one man in Boston for
 $55k/yr if it
  had been an American they would have had to pay $85K/yr".
  I keep wondering about that level playing field George Bush Sr
 was always
  talking about.
 
  Like the man said...The H-1B program is a fraud.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sam Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:29 PM
  Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
 
 
  I thought H1-B were suppose to be paid at market rate?
  
  BTW, it takes about 3 months to transfer a H1-B so if the
 foreign workers
  do
  not like their jobs then they have no recourse but work until it is
  transferred.  Or not work until it is transferred.  They don't have it
  easy
  either.
  
  IMHO, it seems that the only winners are the companies who hire them.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Dick Silva
  Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:58 AM
  To: cryptobyte; ElephantChild; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
  
  
  /
  A thought that occurred to me is.how do all the H-1Bs get
 experience
  when supposedly the U.S. is so much more technically advanced than most
  other countries?
  
  Maybe U.S. corporations do not require H-1Bs to have experience because
  they
  work for so much less.
  
  As I said,  just a thought.
  \
  -Original Message-
  From: cryptobyte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: ElephantChild [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:28 AM
  Subject: Re: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
  
  
  It's not on topic for [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is about getting
  certifications, not jobs.
  
  ElephantChild, I say it has alot to do " ... about getting
  certifications,
  ..."  If you have a Certification, but no experience, what is
 it called
  or
  what is the state, status of your certification - you are a
 PAPER .
  At least, that is what is advocated by some; therefore, at least, in
  part,
  this is applicable whether you are a CCNA, CCDA, CCxx, CCIE,
 xNx, MSxx,
  etc. [Extended to Novell, Micrsoft, ...]
  
  At least with Cisco devices, at the lower end, it is hard for
 people to
  beg, borrow or steal an entry level position.  And then, to
 paraphrase,
  they must pay there dues and proceed with their career.  At the upper
  end,
  sacrifice and hard work, money, prestige, status and on 

BCMSN books

2000-09-11 Thread Todd Weedon

Has anyone come across any good BCMSN books yet ?  

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