RE: PIX and OSPF

[Louie Belt]

Using the "neighbor x.x.x.x command changes the multicast to a unicast -
problem solved.

neighbor ip-address [priority number] [poll-interval seconds] [cost number]



Louie


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Subject: Re: PIX and OSPF




But what about the routing updates that needs to be multi casted between the
two
OSPF routers.




"John Kaberna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/20/2000 02:57:47 AM

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Subject:  Re: PIX and OSPF




Don't pass any info from the ISP inside.  Use the PIX as your default
gateway
for outbound traffic and on the PIX point the default to the inside ethernet
of
your Internet router.  On the Internet router point to your ISP.  Very
standard
practice.

John

Lorenzo Montezemolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> How would this work if NAT were in place?  We're thinking about doing
> something similar where we have our ISP-managed router passing
> default-network information from outside, through the PIX, and to the
> inside.  Any thoughts?
>
> Lorenzo
>
>
>
> ""Omar Baceski"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> | you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to avoid using
> | multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf
passtrough.
> |
> |
> |
> | > -Mensaje original-
> | > De: Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM
> | > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > Asunto: PIX and OSPF
> | >
> | > Greetings,
> | >
> | > I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning OSPF.  I'll
> be
> | > installing a PIX between 2 7XXX router:
> | >
> | > Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2
> | > OSPF   OSPF
> | >
> | >
> | > Do I've to do anything special on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any help is
great.
> | >
> | >
> | > thanks,
> | >
> | > Nabil
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CA in IPSec

[Jim Bond]

Hello,

Is there a way to enroll a PC to CA so we can make
sure users only use this system to get into corporate
network from Internet?

Thanks in advance.


Jim

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Re: PIX and OSPF

[Abdul_Mateen]

But what about the routing updates that needs to be multi casted between the two
OSPF routers.




"John Kaberna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/20/2000 02:57:47 AM

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Subject:  Re: PIX and OSPF




Don't pass any info from the ISP inside.  Use the PIX as your default gateway
for outbound traffic and on the PIX point the default to the inside ethernet of
your Internet router.  On the Internet router point to your ISP.  Very standard
practice.

John

Lorenzo Montezemolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
8q8fjg$t76$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q8fjg$t76$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> How would this work if NAT were in place?  We're thinking about doing
> something similar where we have our ISP-managed router passing
> default-network information from outside, through the PIX, and to the
> inside.  Any thoughts?
>
> Lorenzo
>
>
>
> ""Omar Baceski"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> | you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to avoid using
> | multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf passtrough.
> |
> |
> |
> | > -Mensaje original-
> | > De: Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM
> | > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > Asunto: PIX and OSPF
> | >
> | > Greetings,
> | >
> | > I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning OSPF.  I'll
> be
> | > installing a PIX between 2 7XXX router:
> | >
> | > Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2
> | > OSPF   OSPF
> | >
> | >
> | > Do I've to do anything special on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any help is great.
> | >
> | >
> | > thanks,
> | >
> | > Nabil
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Don't pass any info from the ISP inside.  Use the PIX as your default 
gateway for outbound traffic and on the PIX point the default to the inside 
ethernet of your Internet router.  On the Internet router point to your 
ISP.  Very standard practice.
 
John
 
Lorenzo Montezemolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
message 8q8fjg$t76$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q8fjg$t76$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
How would this work if NAT were in place?  We're thinking about 
doing> something similar where we have our ISP-managed router 
passing> default-network information from outside, through the PIX, and 
to the> inside.  Any thoughts?> > Lorenzo> 
> > > ""Omar Baceski"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
message> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
| you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to avoid using> 
| multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf 
passtrough.> |> |> |> | > -Mensaje 
original-> | > De: Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]> | 
> Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM> | > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > 
Asunto: PIX and OSPF> | >> | > Greetings,> | 
>> | > I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning 
OSPF.  I'll> be> | > installing a PIX between 2 7XXX 
router:> | >> | > 
Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2> | > 
OSPF   
OSPF> | >> | >> | > Do I've to do anything special 
on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any help is great.> | >> | 
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Question about SRT and SR/TLB

[Yongzhi George Zhang]

I know that with SR/TLB, the bridge add and remove RIF according the
direction of the frame.  My question is, with SRT, does the bridge add
and remove RIF?  Thanks.
I am reading two books here.  One book says yes, the other book says
no.  So I am confused.

George Zhang
CCNP+Security

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Re: Internet Routing Architecture

[Jay Hennigan]

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Benny Leong (HTHK - Senior Engineer II - iServices Development, 
NNSD) wrote:

> I am studying Bassam Halabi's Internet Routing Architecture.  I don't
> understand Figure 5-24 on page 173. Can anybody help to explain the detail
> of the diagram ? Thanks.

It's showing the effects of route maps.  At the top is a series of routes
coming from different ASes advertising different networks, six in all.  

The first light-grey line is the "match" clause, referring to an IP address
access-list matching x.y.0.0/16.  Two of the advertisements match, and are 
shown on the right, where they are tested by another match clause, for 
origin in AS3.  

Of these two, one matches, and is permitted with its MED set to 20 by a 
set clause.  The other is denied by implicit deny.

The four advertisements on the left that fail the initial match are then
tested for a match with AS origin of 2 and IP address x.z.0.0/16.  And so
on.  It's a sorting tree where each incoming advertisement is tested in
a yes-no fashion against a rule, and depending on the outcome is either 
passed to another test, allowed unchanged, has an attribute changed, or 
is denied.  

At the end, three advertised routes are denied, two are accepted as-is,
and one is accepted with its MED set to 20. 

For fun and practice, try to write a config snippet that matches the tree.  
Chapter 10 covers the actual configuration statements in detail.

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RE: Report - Global Knowlege BGP class

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

>I'm taking a Global Knowledge course on the BCSN this Monday!
>If the instructor tries leaving early, I would NOT be as calm about it as
>you!  My course is 5 days, but I will have someone's head if ANY of them are
>cut short :-)
>Although my company is flipping the bill for this, it is a lot of money, and
>if any class is cut short, I will expect either a full refund, or another
>course...
>I think you should be complaining to someone in administration!!!
>Get your money back!  That is very unfair!

I have a somewhat midrange feeling in this. If you look at the 
detailed Cisco course specification, you will find that "5 day" 
courses are really 36 hours, 4 day are 28 hours, etc.

The historical reason for this is that traveling Cisco classes 
historically have been given in hotels, which tend to have loading 
docks that close by 5 or 6, and that air freight companies usually 
won't pick up after then anyway.  In the real world, training 
partners can't afford not to have a lab in the new location on Monday 
(assuming "5 day" classes). They MUST get it shipped on Friday. 
Since the instructor typically needs a couple of hours to tear down 
and pack the lab, it's unrealistic for a traveling lab to go later 
than 2 or 3 PM on the last day.

Courses at permanent training centers do have an advantage.

The instructors among you will know that setup can even be worse. 
Hotels, at least, will usually have adequate power, although it may 
not be distributed well. If you ever need to get a hotel to 
understand your electrical power requirements, keep saying "it has 
the electrical requirements of a small rock band."  Hotels understand 
that.

Setting up for onsite courses, however, can be even worse. First, 
it's often hard to get into the facility over the weekend. Second, 
it's rare that there is a proper classroom.  One memorable course 
offering was at MCI's Atlanta training center.  It turned out that 
the room, in which I was teaching a 12-router lab, had one electrical 
outlet. Not one dual outlet.  A single connector, on a 20 amp circuit 
shared somewhere. I had to move all the furniture and then run a maze 
of extension cords just to get everything physically connected, at 
which point the breaker blew.  I then had to run extension cords to 
the single outlets in other classrooms, hoping that the fire marshal 
didn't catch me.

Although see below for my "hotel from hell" story.  Honestly, I don't 
remember if my employer was then PSC or Geotrain, but it was a 
predecessor of GK.

Leaving at noon, however, is not warranted under most circumstances 
with the standard Cisco courses.  Not having taken the GK BGP course, 
which is not an official Cisco course but GK developed, I don't know 
how many hours it is actually designed for.

*** trip report from teaching an ACRC.
I am quite capable of being precise.  There is a distinct
difference between the hotel from hell, and the hotel in hell.
The latter was evidenced at the truck stop outside Tampa,
which gave me fair warning when, on asking for directions
from the airport, was offered use of their free shuttle
cockroach.

Unfortunately, the Milford Plaza last week behaved as the
hotel from hell.  In many cases, it was trying to assimilate
into the non-diabolical culture (if that describes Times
Square), but kept falling back to its origins in Hades.

There were repeated problems in the meeting room, security
for it, and in the general...ambience.  See the evaluations;
most students complained about the site.
The evaluations mention this extensively.

Sunday, July 16
---

Arrived at main entrance.  No doorman, which is a challenge
when luggage cart meets revolving door.

Struggled inside.  Security guard showed up.  I asked directions
to the elevator, and the guard snarled back "we only send that
down for handicapped [sic]."  Pulled out my handicapped parking
placard, and continued getting an argument.  Considered removing
my pants to show scars, since Dr. Guard apparently knew that
my hidden handicap was not a problem.  Bellman showed up and
intervened, getting the elevator.  Guard expressed her view
of the world by physically ejecting an elderly, non-English-speaking
couple who innocently got into the newly arrived elevator.

As a practical note, luggage carts are forbidden from the
escalator from the entrance to lobby level.  There really is no
way to get luggage up the level, in their system, without
either getting the elevator or tipping a bellman.

Arrived in check-in line for usual 10-15 minute wait.

Got to room and rested briefly before starting class setup.
Discovered new meaning to "getting out of bed on the wrong side,"
as I put my feet into 1/2" of ice water that had leaked from the
air conditioner into the rug.  Brrr.  Scream.  Curse.  Change socks.

Tried to check email.  No modular jack in room (which was requested).

Went to training room (Palace, presumably of an impoverished
pretender to a minor throne).  Did partial setup. 

Re: CCNA

[Deepak Sharma]

Cisco CCNA
Exam Certification
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Re: SNMP

[Makarand Yerawadekar]

Hi,

Please take a look at itprc.com



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> detail about it.
> if u know url please forward it to me.
>
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Support 2.0 Exam

[Bruce]

I am taking the Support 2.0 on Thursday. I read the ISDN and Switching
chapters out of Cisco Press's CIT book. I completely read Mcgraw Hill's
Cisco Internetwork Troubleshooting Course Companion by Mason, Thomas and
Newcomb. I did the CD practice questions that came with the Mcgraw Hill book
and also the Boson exams. I would appreciate any last advice that would help
me to prepare for the Support 2.0 exam on Thursday.

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Re: Internet Routing Architecture

[Lam Hay Tak]

You should consider to take BGP, i know GKN of HongKong have this kind of
course..
and the course book is "internet routing architecture" ..!
but you better have routing expereince b4

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> 
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RE: Jobs

[themitmo]

Do we live in the same DC area? I only had my resume
posted for a week and then had to take it down. Too
many responses!! And at the time I had not finished my
CCNP, with no college degrees. I currently work two
jobs with higher than average pay because of the
scarcity of qualified people to fill these positions.
Check out the whole Dulles Tech Corridor. Left and
right big buildings with Sprint, Nextel, Oracle. If
you have no other recourse UUNet will take you to
troubleshoot BGP for 35K a year.

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Re: STOP-----CCNA books------Kill This Thread

[Rod Christie]

How about using a News reader, and for anyone else out there, this will save
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native vlan

[Benny Leong (HTHK - Senior Engineer II - iServices Development, NNSD)]

What is native vlan in the context of IEEE 802.1Q trunk restriction ?


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Internet Routing Architecture

[Benny Leong (HTHK - Senior Engineer II - iServices Development, NNSD)]

Hi,

I am studying Bassam Halabi's Internet Routing Architecture.  I don't
understand Figure 5-24 on page 173. Can anybody help to explain the detail
of the diagram ? Thanks.

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Re: Re :All-in-one CCIE lab, Lab # 65, HSRP

[Brad Ellis]

Try a different IOS Flavor

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> Hi Group,
>
> I tried to configure two standby groups-- Group 1 & Group 2 on e0
interface
> of a 2501 router according to the book.
>
> Configured the first standby group without any problem. Got the following
> error message when I tried to configure the second standby group
:-"Standby:
> Interface hardware cannot support multiple groups."
>
> My 2501 has code version 11.2 <12>, system image file
:c2500-j-1.112-12.bin,
> 16MB memory and 8 MB flash.
>
> Same thing happened when I tried on another 2501.
>
> Any suggestion ?
>
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RE: link down problem

[Yee, Jason]

But a loopback of the interface shows line protocol down as well

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Omar Baceski
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:40 PM
To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
Subject: RE: link down problem


i suspect that the problem is at the FR switch...

if you remember the dlci status are:
active: both ends and switch working
inactive: near end and switch working, remote end dead
deleted: the switch does not recognice the dlci number.

i can see that in one of your routers you have an ACTIVE dlci, so it must be
up with another peer. maybe you have a misconfiguration in the switching
table at the switch...

i hope it helps.


> -Mensaje original-
> De:   Yee, Jason [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el:   Monday, September 18, 2000 11:38 PM
> Para: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
> Asunto:   link down problem
> 
> hi fellow studymates,
> 
> Need your comments on this particular problem
> 
> It seems that one side pvc active the other pvc inactive and LMI down
> 
> I have confirmed the following LMI type correct , could not ping on either
> side 
> 
> Can it be the side that the pvc is down is due to physical layer problem ?
> 
> 
> need your comments on this 
> 
> thanks
> 
> Situation goes this way :
> 
> configuration of router at one end :
> 
> Router#sh run 
> Building configuration... 
> Current configuration: 
> ! 
> version 11.2 
> no service password-encryption 
> no service udp-small-servers 
> no service tcp-small-servers 
> ! 
> hostname Router 
> ! 
> ! 
> ! 
> interface Ethernet0 
> no ip address 
> shutdown 
> ! 
> interface Serial0 
> ip address 202.161.128.158 255.255.255.252 
> encapsulation frame-relay IETF 
> no fair-queue 
> frame-relay interface-dlci 659 
> frame-relay lmi-type ansi 
> ! 
> ip classless 
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 202.161.128.157 
> ! 
> line con 0 
> line vty 0 4 
> login 
> ! 
> end 
> Router#sh int s0 
> Serial0 is up, line protocol is down (looped) 
> Internet address is 202.161.128.158/30 
> MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely 211/255, load 1/255 
> Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec) 
> LMI enq sent 18, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down 
> LMI enq recvd 18, LMI stat sent 0, LMI upd sent 0 
> LMI DLCI 0 LMI type is ANSI Annex D frame relay DTE 
> Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 0 
> Last input 00:00:09, output 00:00:00, output hang never 
> Last clearing of "show interface" counters never 
> Queueing strategy: fifo 
> Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops 
> 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 
> 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 
> 693 packets input, 37348 bytes, 0 no buffer 
> Received 72 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 
> 831 input errors, 1 CRC, 820 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 10 abort 
> 962 packets output, 87013 bytes, 0 underruns 
> 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 2890 interface resets 
> 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 
> 12 carrier transitions 
> DCD=up DSR=up DTR=up RTS=up CTS=up 
> --More-- 
> Router#sh frame-relay pvc 
> PVC Statistics for interface Serial0 (Frame Relay DTE) 
> DLCI = 659, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = INACTIVE, INTERFACE = Serial0
> 
> input pkts 0 output pkts 0 in bytes 0 
> out bytes 0 dropped pkts 0 in FECN pkts 0 
> in BECN pkts 0 out FECN pkts 0 out BECN pkts 0 
> in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0 
> out bcast pkts 0 out bcast bytes 0 
> pvc create time 02:03:22, last time pvc status changed 02:03:22 
> Router# 
> 
> configuration of router at the other end 
> kap-cdr-02>sh frame-relay pvc 659
> 
> PVC Statistics for interface Hssi4/0 (Frame Relay DTE)
> 
> DLCI = 659, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = ACTIVE, INTERFACE =
> Hssi4/0.659
> 
>   input pkts 598   output pkts 120463   in bytes 154900
>   out bytes 42196627   dropped pkts 3   in FECN pkts 0
> 
>   in BECN pkts 0   out FECN pkts 0  out BECN pkts 0
> 
>   in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0 
>   out bcast pkts 8614   out bcast bytes 3101040   
>   pvc create time 1w5d, last time pvc status changed 5d15h
> kap-cdr-02>
> Hssi4/0.659 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 659(0x293,0xA430), broadcast
>   status defined, active
> 
> 
> 
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PIX Firewall manager

[Wibowo Nur Susetio]

Dear Nathan,

Currently i am installing Pix Firewall Manager ver 4.3(2)e, it's not smooth
as i read in a CCO.
We have a problem when loading PIX configuration. It seems that the PIX
cannot send the config to  PFM server.
I have open the telnet for PIX manager. 

Hosts spec are:
Windows NT server with service pack 4
96 Mb Ram
IE browser  4.0 version 4.72.3110.8 updated version:SP1
Static IP address in inside PIX interface

After typing username and password to logon, there are several IO error

  -- IO exception error:This file,adm_admc.txt may not exist

There are about 10 or more txt file error notification that may not exist.

and when loading the configuration we have also error reported by PIX and
sent to PIX  manager (file Attached)

So due to this error the PIX configuration cannot be loaded by PFM.

Has anybody install PFM???

Please advise!!

1: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Interface (cmdCode = 1903).
2: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Global (cmdCode = 103).
3: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show NAT (cmdCode = 203).
4: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show No AT (cmdCode = 503).
5: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Static (cmdCode = 303).
6: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Conduit (cmdCode = 403).
7: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Outbound (cmdCode = 603).
8: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Apply (cmdCode = 703).
9: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Alias (cmdCode = 4803).
10: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Telnet (cmdCode = 1503).
11: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Telnet (cmdCode = 1503).
12: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Logging Message (cmdCode = 908).
13: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show ARP (cmdCode = 1003).
14: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show ARP Duration (cmdCode = 1103).
15: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show AAA Authentication (cmdCode = 3203).
16: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show AAA Accounting (cmdCode = 5803).
17: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show AAA Authorization (cmdCode = 3903).
18: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Static Route (cmdCode = 1303).
19: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Default Route (cmdCode = 1203).
20: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show SNMP Community (cmdCode = 5503).
21: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show SNMP Host (cmdCode = 1603).
22: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show SNMP Contact (cmdCode = 1703).
23: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show SNMP Location (cmdCode = 1803).
24: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show SNMP Traps (cmdCode = 6503).
25: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Syslog Output (cmdCode = 903).
26: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Syslog Output (cmdCode = 903).
27: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Url Filter Server (cmdCode = 6203).
28: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Filter (cmdCode = 6603).
29: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show established (cmdCode = 4703).
30: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show RIP (cmdCode = 2003).
31: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Failover (cmdCode = 2103).
32: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Fixup Protocol (cmdCode = 6003).
33: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show RADIUS Server (cmdCode = 4003).
34: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show TACACS Server (cmdCode = 4103).
35: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Timeout (cmdCode = 4903).
36: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Link (cmdCode = 4203).
37: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Linkpath (cmdCode = 4303).
38: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Uauth (cmdCode = 5003).
39: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Age Duration (cmdCode = 4403).
40: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show TFTP Server (cmdCode = 6303).
41: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Virtual Server (cmdCode = 6103).
42: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Blocks (cmdCode = 2603).
43: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Memory (cmdCode = 2903).
44: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Connection (cmdCode = 2703).
45: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Checksum (cmdCode = 5903).
46: 10.10.1.1: Unable to Show Url Cache Stat (cmdCode = 6803).







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RE: link down problem

[Yee, Jason]

thank you I suspect it is the other side , not my side that is causing the
problem. Since a loop back test indicates that the line protocol is down as
well

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Peter Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 5:51 PM
To: Yee, Jason; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: link down problem


Jason,

I would suspect a FR service provider fault then. The status of "inactive"
for the PVC indicates the problem lies downstream/upstream of this router.

>From Internetworking Troubleshooting Handbook p533 (Cisco Press)

Frame Relay: Cannot ping Remote Router
DLCI Inactive or deleted:

Step 2: If the output from Step 1 (SHOW FRAME-RELAY PVC command) shows that
the PVC is deleted or inactive, there is a problem along the path to the
remote router. Check the remote router or contact your carrier to check the
status ofthe PVC.

Hope this helps

Regards

Pete S.

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-Original Message-
From: Yee, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Peter Simmons' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 September 2000 10:19
Subject: RE: link down problem


>This is the hangover from testing not the cause after loop back is disabled
>the line protocol still show down
>
>Jason
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Peter Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:27 PM
>To: Yee, Jason; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: link down problem
>
>
>
>Jason,
>
>(Lots of stuff snipped)
>
>The output from "show int s0"
>
>>Router#sh int s0
>>Serial0 is up, line protocol is down (looped)
>>Internet address is 202.161.128.158/30
>
>shows the interface is looped at the CSU/DSU, doesn't it?
>
>Is this just a hangover from testing, or is this the cause?
>
>Regards
>
>Pete S.
>
>/DISCLAIMER
>All the ususal legal rubbish means that if If your house burns down after
>reading this, it's NOT my fault, OK!
>/DISCLAIMER OFF
>
>
>

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Re :All-in-one CCIE lab, Lab # 65, HSRP

[Alex Lee]

Hi Group,

I tried to configure two standby groups-- Group 1 & Group 2 on e0 interface
of a 2501 router according to the book.

Configured the first standby group without any problem. Got the following
error message when I tried to configure the second standby group :-"Standby:
Interface hardware cannot support multiple groups."

My 2501 has code version 11.2 <12>, system image file :c2500-j-1.112-12.bin,
16MB memory and 8 MB flash.

Same thing happened when I tried on another 2501.

Any suggestion ?


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RE: link down problem

[Yee, Jason]

ok will try that out , thanks  a lot

Jason

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Simon
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 10:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: link down problem


If you check the output from the router:

LMI enq sent 18, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down

this shows that the router is making LMI enquires of the switch [LMI enq
sent 18], but is not receiving replies [LMI stat recvd 0] - ie. the LMI has
not been activated on the local link.

At the opposite end things will appear OK as the router has the LMI
activated at that end.  Use show fr map to see if dlci 659 has mapped to a
different IP address.  Remember that the dlci number only has local
significance, they do not have to match at both ends.  I agree with Omar
that it is likely that the pvc's are misconfigured if you are active on one
end and not the other.

Get the service provider to confirm that LMI is activated, if your interface
does not go up and up, get them to put a loopback to you, and sh int to see
if it loops.  If it does not, it is likely that they have not cabled the
opposite end of your line in the exchange.  Once the interface goes up and
up, the LMI stat recvd will increment with the LMI enq sent.  This will
confirm that the router is talking to the switch.  Then you can use sh fr
pvc to see which pvcs have been built, and sh fr map to see what they can
see at the opposite end.

Cheers,

Si

"Omar Baceski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i suspect that the problem is at the FR switch...
>
> if you remember the dlci status are:
> active: both ends and switch working
> inactive: near end and switch working, remote end dead
> deleted: the switch does not recognice the dlci number.
>
> i can see that in one of your routers you have an ACTIVE dlci, so it must
be
> up with another peer. maybe you have a misconfiguration in the switching
> table at the switch...
>
> i hope it helps.
>
>
> > -Mensaje original-
> > De: Yee, Jason [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Enviado el: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:38 PM
> > Para: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
> > Asunto: link down problem
> >
> > hi fellow studymates,
> >
> > Need your comments on this particular problem
> >
> > It seems that one side pvc active the other pvc inactive and LMI down
> >
> > I have confirmed the following LMI type correct , could not ping on
either
> > side
> >
> > Can it be the side that the pvc is down is due to physical layer problem
?
> >
> >
> > need your comments on this
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Situation goes this way :
> >
> > configuration of router at one end :
> >
> > Router#sh run
> > Building configuration...
> > Current configuration:
> > !
> > version 11.2
> > no service password-encryption
> > no service udp-small-servers
> > no service tcp-small-servers
> > !
> > hostname Router
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > interface Ethernet0
> > no ip address
> > shutdown
> > !
> > interface Serial0
> > ip address 202.161.128.158 255.255.255.252
> > encapsulation frame-relay IETF
> > no fair-queue
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 659
> > frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> > !
> > ip classless
> > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 202.161.128.157
> > !
> > line con 0
> > line vty 0 4
> > login
> > !
> > end
> > Router#sh int s0
> > Serial0 is up, line protocol is down (looped)
> > Internet address is 202.161.128.158/30
> > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely 211/255, load 1/255
> > Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec)
> > LMI enq sent 18, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
> > LMI enq recvd 18, LMI stat sent 0, LMI upd sent 0
> > LMI DLCI 0 LMI type is ANSI Annex D frame relay DTE
> > Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts
0
> > Last input 00:00:09, output 00:00:00, output hang never
> > Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
> > Queueing strategy: fifo
> > Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
> > 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> > 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> > 693 packets input, 37348 bytes, 0 no buffer
> > Received 72 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
> > 831 input errors, 1 CRC, 820 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 10 abort
> > 962 packets output, 87013 bytes, 0 underruns
> > 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 2890 interface resets
> > 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> > 12 carrier transitions
> > DCD=up DSR=up DTR=up RTS=up CTS=up
> > --More--
> > Router#sh frame-relay pvc
> > PVC Statistics for interface Serial0 (Frame Relay DTE)
> > DLCI = 659, DLCI USAGE = LOCAL, PVC STATUS = INACTIVE, INTERFACE =
Serial0
> >
> > input pkts 0 output pkts 0 in bytes 0
> > out bytes 0 dropped pkts 0 in FECN pkts 0
> > in BECN pkts 0 out FECN pkts 0 out BECN pkts 0
> > in DE pkts 0 out DE pkts 0
> > out bcast pkts 0 out bcast bytes 0
> > pvc create time 02:03:22, last time pvc status

Re: PIX and OSPF

[John Kaberna]

Ah yes Omar.  Hey Fares we cannot do your work for you.  Care to enlighten
us why you would want to do this?

John

- Original Message -
From: Omar Baceski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: PIX and OSPF


> this is not my scenario.
> maybe there are no internet routers, and both are internals. just ask
Nabil
> Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>
>
> > -Mensaje original-
> > De: John Kaberna [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:40 PM
> > Para: Omar Baceski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Asunto: Re: PIX and OSPF
> >
> > You are still not making any sense at all.  Why do you want your
internal
> > network to share routing info with your Internet router?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Omar Baceski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:10 PM
> > Subject: RE: PIX and OSPF
> >
> >
> > > because the pix will see the multicast traffic as broadcast, then
> > dropiing
> > > it, then not getting any adjacency on the routers. I had have the same
> > > problem 2 weeks ago. exactly the same issue if you work with EIGRP.
> > >
> > > > -Mensaje original-
> > > > De: John Kaberna [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 7:35 PM
> > > > Para: Omar Baceski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Asunto: Re: PIX and OSPF
> > > >
> > > > Like Howard mentioned early.   Why would you do this?
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: Omar Baceski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 3:05 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: PIX and OSPF
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > let me explain
> > > > > you must make a conduit that let pass the ospf unicast traffic
from
> > JUST
> > > > one
> > > > > router to the other. and if you are really paranoid you can put
md5
> > auth
> > > > on
> > > > > both routers too.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Mensaje original-
> > > > > > De: Howard C. Berkowitz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 6:13 PM
> > > > > > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Asunto: RE: PIX and OSPF
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to
avoid
> > > > using
> > > > > > >multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf
> > > > > > passtrough.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But why do you want to pass through?  It seems counter to good
> > > > > > security practice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  > -Mensaje original-
> > > > > > >  > De: Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > >  > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM
> > > > > > >  > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >  > Asunto: PIX and OSPF
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > Greetings,
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning
> > OSPF.
> > > > > > I'll be
> > > > > > >  > installing a PIX between 2 7XXX router:
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2
> > > > > > >  > OSPF   OSPF
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > Do I've to do anything special on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any
help
> > is
> > > > > > great.
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > thanks,
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > Nabil
> > > > > > >  >
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Re: PIX and OSPF

[John Kaberna]

You are still not making any sense at all.  Why do you want your internal
network to share routing info with your Internet router?

- Original Message -
From: Omar Baceski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: PIX and OSPF


> because the pix will see the multicast traffic as broadcast, then dropiing
> it, then not getting any adjacency on the routers. I had have the same
> problem 2 weeks ago. exactly the same issue if you work with EIGRP.
>
> > -Mensaje original-
> > De: John Kaberna [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 7:35 PM
> > Para: Omar Baceski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Asunto: Re: PIX and OSPF
> >
> > Like Howard mentioned early.   Why would you do this?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Omar Baceski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 3:05 PM
> > Subject: RE: PIX and OSPF
> >
> >
> > > let me explain
> > > you must make a conduit that let pass the ospf unicast traffic from
JUST
> > one
> > > router to the other. and if you are really paranoid you can put md5
auth
> > on
> > > both routers too.
> > >
> > > > -Mensaje original-
> > > > De: Howard C. Berkowitz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 6:13 PM
> > > > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Asunto: RE: PIX and OSPF
> > > >
> > > > >you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to avoid
> > using
> > > > >multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf
> > > > passtrough.
> > > >
> > > > But why do you want to pass through?  It seems counter to good
> > > > security practice.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  > -Mensaje original-
> > > > >  > De: Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > >  > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM
> > > > >  > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >  > Asunto: PIX and OSPF
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > Greetings,
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning
OSPF.
> > > > I'll be
> > > > >  > installing a PIX between 2 7XXX router:
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2
> > > > >  > OSPF   OSPF
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > Do I've to do anything special on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any help
is
> > > > great.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > thanks,
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > Nabil
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RE: PIX and OSPF

[Omar Baceski]

this is not my scenario.
maybe there are no internet routers, and both are internals. just ask Nabil
Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]



> -Mensaje original-
> De:   John Kaberna [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el:   Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:40 PM
> Para: Omar Baceski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Asunto:   Re: PIX and OSPF
> 
> You are still not making any sense at all.  Why do you want your internal
> network to share routing info with your Internet router?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Omar Baceski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:10 PM
> Subject: RE: PIX and OSPF
> 
> 
> > because the pix will see the multicast traffic as broadcast, then
> dropiing
> > it, then not getting any adjacency on the routers. I had have the same
> > problem 2 weeks ago. exactly the same issue if you work with EIGRP.
> >
> > > -Mensaje original-
> > > De: John Kaberna [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 7:35 PM
> > > Para: Omar Baceski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Asunto: Re: PIX and OSPF
> > >
> > > Like Howard mentioned early.   Why would you do this?
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: Omar Baceski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 3:05 PM
> > > Subject: RE: PIX and OSPF
> > >
> > >
> > > > let me explain
> > > > you must make a conduit that let pass the ospf unicast traffic from
> JUST
> > > one
> > > > router to the other. and if you are really paranoid you can put md5
> auth
> > > on
> > > > both routers too.
> > > >
> > > > > -Mensaje original-
> > > > > De: Howard C. Berkowitz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 6:13 PM
> > > > > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Asunto: RE: PIX and OSPF
> > > > >
> > > > > >you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to avoid
> > > using
> > > > > >multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf
> > > > > passtrough.
> > > > >
> > > > > But why do you want to pass through?  It seems counter to good
> > > > > security practice.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  > -Mensaje original-
> > > > > >  > De: Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > >  > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM
> > > > > >  > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >  > Asunto: PIX and OSPF
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > Greetings,
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning
> OSPF.
> > > > > I'll be
> > > > > >  > installing a PIX between 2 7XXX router:
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2
> > > > > >  > OSPF   OSPF
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > Do I've to do anything special on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any help
> is
> > > > > great.
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > thanks,
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > Nabil
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RE: CCIE Questions...

[Louie Belt]

John, I know exactly what the CCIE lab is.  I sit for it in RTP October 30th
and 31st.  I also know how hard I've worked to get to this point and I don't
want anyone devaluing my efforts.  You seem to think it's ok to cheat or
violate NDA's.  You missed the idea entirely of my post - that it won't
create more CCIE's, but that cheating on the written will allow more
"non-qualified" people to sit for the lab, thereby creating an even greater
backlog (currently at 4 months) of people waiting to get in.  It does not in
any way mean that more will pass, but it does mean that someone who is
qualified may have to wait even longer, because someone who doesn't deserve
a shat at the lab cheated their way ahead of those who put in the effort.


As for John Galt, it's simply a tag line that goes with my sig.  Who is John
Galt? - is a rhetorical question from a book and was never intended to
elicit an answer.


Louie



When I disagree with a rational man, I let reality be our final arbiter; If
I am right, he will learn, If I am wrong, I will; one of us will win, but
both of us will profit.

- John Galt


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
John Kaberna
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:53 PM
To: Miller, Nathan (AZ15)
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


No one is going to pass just because of a few questions they can memorize
the answers to.  I also don't know where you think we will be diluted with
CCIE's because of this.  The CCIE is a lab.  I guess your referring to the
paper test which, once again, doesn't mean squat.

The pool is not going to be diluted because of NDA violations.  Just like
any other certification the combination of books geared directly for the
exam and testing software that is very accurate will dilute the pool.  The
few people that violate the NDA will be of little consequence.  As long as
Cisco uses a large enough question database and changes the test frequently
enough this won't be an issue.  You people love to beat a dead horse don't
you.

John

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From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John Kaberna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Lori S Carter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:28 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...


> John,
> Perhaps you have not grasped the idea that systematic violation of the
NDAs
> devalues the certs that we are all (yourself included - I assume) working
to
> earn.  I for one, do not want the pool of CCNPs and CCIEs diluted by those
> who are incapable of passing the exams without memorizing the answers to a
> few specific questions.  A significant part of the value of these certs
> comes from the perception (justified or not) that more than memorization
is
> required to attain them.
> Regards,
>
> Nathan Miller
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:18 PM
> To: Lori S Carter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bradley J. Wilson
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> You people spend way too much time snitching.  I bet a lot of you got beat
> up and teased frequently in high school.  Let Cisco worry about its NDA.
It
> doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course)
doing
> its job for them.  Geez people some of you need to get a life.
>
> John
>
> PS.  You can report me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you want to whine
about
> what I have to say.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> > Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big
names"
> in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
> lawyers who represent Cisco.
> > Lori
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
> >  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> > >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> > >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
> Heck,
> > >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
> long...
> > >
> > >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> > >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring
Cisco-related
> > >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not -
what
> a
> > >job from hell that would be.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: Louie Belt
> > >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> > >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
> needs
> > >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> > >
> > >
> > >LAB
> > >
> > >Who is John Galt?
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> >

they want us in England!!

[Sam Fraser]

I got a job!!
This is Sam the CCNA with a 946 score and couldn't get even an interview
never mind a job!  I decided to start looking for jobs in the South of
England.  Got an interview straight away, ... and, got the job straight
away!  They were aghast! at my knowledge.  I knew I had the job before I
left the interview room.  You see, experience isn't everything.  Global
Crossing will not regret taking me on, I will prove my worth!!
A BIG THANK YOU to all those from this newsgroup that helped me during my
studies.
Bye
>From Sam


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Re: Just Passed Routing 2.0 --Which exam Next

[Patrick Bass]

I did not use a book.  I used documentation from the Cisco Web site.  I got
the exam objectives from cisco.com/go/certifications and then studied all
the subjects they mentioned.  Everything you need is in the cisco web site,
if you are willing to look for it and read it.


"kikpasa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Which book did you use for the Switching exam
>
> Patrick Bass wrote:
>
> > I did switching for my cert track.  Now I'm on remote access, finally
> > troubleshooting.
> >
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> > > Hello People,
> > >   I just passed my routing exam, thanks for the site, what I would
like
> > > is to know what exam to sit next in the CCNP group
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Kerry
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Re: CCIE Questions...

[NeoLink2000]

Oh now that's professional...nice to see the list is still running great. Think I'll 
switch to the NA/DA list. There are probably more intelligent posts there than there 
are here...

Re: CCIE Questions...

[Wojtek Zlobicki]

The CCIE is a great certification.  These people are simply trying to ensure
that it retains its integrity.  I look forward to taking a test that 70% of
people fail the first time.  If and when I pass, it will mean a lot to me.

Wojtek

- Original Message -
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To: "Lori S Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


> You people spend way too much time snitching.  I bet a lot of you got beat
> up and teased frequently in high school.  Let Cisco worry about its NDA.
It
> doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course)
doing
> its job for them.  Geez people some of you need to get a life.
>
> John
>
> PS.  You can report me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you want to whine
about
> what I have to say.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> > Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big
names"
> in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
> lawyers who represent Cisco.
> > Lori
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
> >  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> > >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> > >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
> Heck,
> > >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
> long...
> > >
> > >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> > >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring
Cisco-related
> > >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not -
what
> a
> > >job from hell that would be.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: Louie Belt
> > >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> > >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
> needs
> > >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> > >
> > >
> > >LAB
> > >
> > >Who is John Galt?
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >FRS
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> > >
> > >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> Question 1:
> > >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> > >serial
> > >> line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is connected to
Router
> B.
> > >A
> > >> packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the serial line causes
> an
> > >> error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> > >>
> > >> Question 2:
> > >> During the middle of a TCP conversion across a routed backbone, the
> > >network
> > >> receives a voltage spike and several of the packets are damaged.
Where
> are
> > >> the packets retransmitted from?
> > >>
> > >> Question 3:
> > >> Computer1 [Segment
> > >>
> >
>
>A]---RouterA--RouterB--[SegmentB]--Comp
> u
> > >> ter2
> > >> A packet is sent to Computer 2 from Computer 1. A collision occurs on
> > >> Segment B. Which device will retransmit the frame and what will the
> source
> > >> MAC address be (when the packet actually reaches Segment B)?
> > >>
> > >> Question 4:
> > >> When computer A sends a frame to computer B across many routers, how
> will
> > >> the source and destination layer 3 addresses change? How will the
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RE: PIX and OSPF

[Omar Baceski]

because the pix will see the multicast traffic as broadcast, then dropiing
it, then not getting any adjacency on the routers. I had have the same
problem 2 weeks ago. exactly the same issue if you work with EIGRP.

> -Mensaje original-
> De:   John Kaberna [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el:   Tuesday, September 19, 2000 7:35 PM
> Para: Omar Baceski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Asunto:   Re: PIX and OSPF
> 
> Like Howard mentioned early.   Why would you do this?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Omar Baceski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 3:05 PM
> Subject: RE: PIX and OSPF
> 
> 
> > let me explain
> > you must make a conduit that let pass the ospf unicast traffic from JUST
> one
> > router to the other. and if you are really paranoid you can put md5 auth
> on
> > both routers too.
> >
> > > -Mensaje original-
> > > De: Howard C. Berkowitz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 6:13 PM
> > > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Asunto: RE: PIX and OSPF
> > >
> > > >you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to avoid
> using
> > > >multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf
> > > passtrough.
> > >
> > > But why do you want to pass through?  It seems counter to good
> > > security practice.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  > -Mensaje original-
> > > >  > De: Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >  > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM
> > > >  > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >  > Asunto: PIX and OSPF
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Greetings,
> > > >  >
> > > >  > I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning OSPF.
> > > I'll be
> > > >  > installing a PIX between 2 7XXX router:
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2
> > > >  > OSPF   OSPF
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Do I've to do anything special on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any help is
> > > great.
> > > >  >
> > > >  >
> > > >  > thanks,
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Re: Crazy 2611

[Ejay Hire]

I'm not sure if this is the best fix it, but one you can show running-config 
and log it to a text file.  Erase the nvram, reboot, and the reenter the 
commands from the text file.

This works, but I would be interested to learn the _proper_ fix for it.


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From: Charles Nunie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Charles Nunie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Crazy 2611
Date: 19 Sep 00 11:21:36 MDT

Hi everyone,

We have two Cisco 2611 routers which we intend to use for VoIP for a client.
It has the 11.3(2) XA4 version of bootstrap and an 11.3T IOS which we 
replaced
with 12.0(7) XK1.

Each time we issue commands like copy run start or write mem, it says:

Attempting to overwrite an NVRAM configuration previously written by a
different version of the system image and then asks for confirmation after
which it reboots without making any permanent changes.  It also says system
received a segV exception.

Other confirguration commands like dial-peer voice. pots, show run,
more system: running - config etc. also causes the system to reboot in which
situation all configurations are lost.


What could be wrong please.


Regards,
Francis Amanor




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RE: PIX and OSPF

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

>let me explain
>you must make a conduit that let pass the ospf unicast traffic from JUST one
>router to the other. and if you are really paranoid you can put md5 auth on
>both routers too.

I understand how to pass routing traffic. The question is -- why? 
What good does it do for the DMZ to know the internal structure, and 
vice versa?  There's only one path between both sides of the 
firewall. What problem does having OSPF information solve?

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Re: CCIE Questions...

[John Kaberna]

Don't blame me cause your not too bright.  Blame your parents.  They
conceived you.


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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


> Anyone else rofl over this line? :-)
>
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>
> Once again you are one of the many that fails to see my point.
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Re: PIX and OSPF

[John Kaberna]

Like Howard mentioned early.   Why would you do this?

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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: PIX and OSPF


> let me explain
> you must make a conduit that let pass the ospf unicast traffic from JUST
one
> router to the other. and if you are really paranoid you can put md5 auth
on
> both routers too.
>
> > -Mensaje original-
> > De: Howard C. Berkowitz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 6:13 PM
> > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Asunto: RE: PIX and OSPF
> >
> > >you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to avoid using
> > >multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf
> > passtrough.
> >
> > But why do you want to pass through?  It seems counter to good
> > security practice.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  > -Mensaje original-
> > >  > De: Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >  > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM
> > >  > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >  > Asunto: PIX and OSPF
> > >  >
> > >  > Greetings,
> > >  >
> > >  > I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning OSPF.
> > I'll be
> > >  > installing a PIX between 2 7XXX router:
> > >  >
> > >  > Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2
> > >  > OSPF   OSPF
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > Do I've to do anything special on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any help is
> > great.
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > thanks,
> > >  >
> > >  > Nabil
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RE: Pass-thru DMZ?

[Kedar Deshpande]

Hi,

I think Thats not true..!!DMZ is a region which is which a seperate
network.In our secured network we need that some servers like web servres r
to be accessed from outside .So we keep them in seperate network..normally
connected on seperate interface on FW.but that zone is also very well
proteected by firewall..but less secured than internal interface..

regards,




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Subject: Re: Pass-thru DMZ?


DMZ stands for demilitarized zone.  It usually means that you are can put a
machine or server outside of your firewall.  This means that this particular
machine will not be protected by the firewall.

 -Jay

Dave Malik wrote:

> I wanted to find out what would be the correct setup/definition of a
> "pass-thru DMZ". I think the PIX experts would probably know this.
>
> Any comments are appreciated.
>
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> Dave
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OSI Test

[Mark Rose]

Recently I was on a site that had an online test on the OSI model, I cannot
find the link. Does anyone know of this site?

TIA
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Re: CCIE Questions...

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Anyone else rofl over this line? :-)

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Once again you are one of the many that fails to see my point.  

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RE: PIX and OSPF

[Omar Baceski]

let me explain
you must make a conduit that let pass the ospf unicast traffic from JUST one
router to the other. and if you are really paranoid you can put md5 auth on
both routers too.

> -Mensaje original-
> De:   Howard C. Berkowitz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el:   Tuesday, September 19, 2000 6:13 PM
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Asunto:   RE: PIX and OSPF
> 
> >you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to avoid using
> >multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf
> passtrough.
> 
> But why do you want to pass through?  It seems counter to good 
> security practice.
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >  > -Mensaje original-
> >  > De:  Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >  > Enviado el:  Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM
> >  > Para:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  > Asunto:  PIX and OSPF
> >  >
> >  > Greetings,
> >  >
> >  > I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning OSPF.
> I'll be
> >  > installing a PIX between 2 7XXX router:
> >  >
> >  > Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2
> >  > OSPF   OSPF
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Do I've to do anything special on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any help is
> great.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > thanks,
> >  >
> >  > Nabil
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RE: ACRC Objective question.

[Omar Baceski]

i think  dest addr., dest mac, next hop addr.

> -Mensaje original-
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> Enviado el:   Tuesday, September 19, 2000 6:26 PM
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> Asunto:   ACRC Objective question.
> 
> Here's a question that was in a study guide I couldn't answer.
> 
> What 3 things does a router need to know to be able to send packet to
> their 
> destination?
> 
> I was thinking...
> 
> Next-Hop address
> Next-Hop interface
> ???
> 
> 
> The answers weren't in the book, so I'm passing it on to the group.
> 
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Re: Router Bootup Problem

[John Neiberger]

Actually, I had this exact message this morning on a 2620.  This is what it
reports when there is no IOS present in FLASH.  In my case, I had just
upgraded from 8 to 16 MB of FLASH so, of course, there was no software
present.  Also, a 2600 has only one slot for FLASH.

>  Unfortunatley, this won't work. The router is not saying there is no IOS
it
>  is saying that either the flash is bad or that
>  it has not been partitioned. If you have an older flash for same router,
put
>  it back into
>  the router in the first slot and the new flash into the second slot. When
>  the router finds the IOS on the old flash and boots, go into config mode
and
>  partition the flash.
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "Evan Francen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "'Peter Gray'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:25 PM
>  Subject: RE: Router Bootup Problem
>  
>  
>  > Have you ever opened the case on this router before.  Try reseating the
>  > flash memory module and copying an new flash image from tftp.
>  >
>  > Evan
>  >
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: Peter Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 6:59 PM
>  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > Subject: Router Bootup Problem
>  >
>  >
>  > I have got a corrupt flash on my router. It goes to ROMMON after
starting.
>  > IP doesn't start and it goes to same mood even if I change config-reg
to
>  > 0x2101 . Its a 2600. See the startup message.
>  >
>  > System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
>  > Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
>  > TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
>  > C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>  >
>  > device does not contain a valid magic number
>  > boot: cannot open "flash:"
>  > boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"
>  >
>  > System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
>  > Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
>  > TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
>  > C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>  >
>  > device does not contain a valid magic number
>  > boot: cannot open "flash:"
>  > boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"
>  >
>  > System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
>  > Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
>  > TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
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Re: User change passwords

[Kent]

Hi all,

We have a tacacs server and we configure users for
different priviledge. My problem is how I can make
these users to change their passwords by themselves, I
guess I do not need to do this from the tacacs myself,
right?

Thanks

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Re: CCIE Questions...

[John Kaberna]

No one is going to pass just because of a few questions they can memorize
the answers to.  I also don't know where you think we will be diluted with
CCIE's because of this.  The CCIE is a lab.  I guess your referring to the
paper test which, once again, doesn't mean squat.

The pool is not going to be diluted because of NDA violations.  Just like
any other certification the combination of books geared directly for the
exam and testing software that is very accurate will dilute the pool.  The
few people that violate the NDA will be of little consequence.  As long as
Cisco uses a large enough question database and changes the test frequently
enough this won't be an issue.  You people love to beat a dead horse don't
you.

John

- Original Message -
From: Miller, Nathan (AZ15) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John Kaberna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Lori S Carter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:28 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...


> John,
> Perhaps you have not grasped the idea that systematic violation of the
NDAs
> devalues the certs that we are all (yourself included - I assume) working
to
> earn.  I for one, do not want the pool of CCNPs and CCIEs diluted by those
> who are incapable of passing the exams without memorizing the answers to a
> few specific questions.  A significant part of the value of these certs
> comes from the perception (justified or not) that more than memorization
is
> required to attain them.
> Regards,
>
> Nathan Miller
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:18 PM
> To: Lori S Carter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bradley J. Wilson
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> You people spend way too much time snitching.  I bet a lot of you got beat
> up and teased frequently in high school.  Let Cisco worry about its NDA.
It
> doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course)
doing
> its job for them.  Geez people some of you need to get a life.
>
> John
>
> PS.  You can report me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you want to whine
about
> what I have to say.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> > Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big
names"
> in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
> lawyers who represent Cisco.
> > Lori
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
> >  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> > >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> > >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
> Heck,
> > >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
> long...
> > >
> > >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> > >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring
Cisco-related
> > >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not -
what
> a
> > >job from hell that would be.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: Louie Belt
> > >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> > >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
> needs
> > >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> > >
> > >
> > >LAB
> > >
> > >Who is John Galt?
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >FRS
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> > >
> > >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> Question 1:
> > >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> > >serial
> > >> line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is connected to
Router
> B.
> > >A
> > >> packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the serial line causes
> an
> > >> error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> > >>
> > >> Question 2:
> > >> During the middle of a TCP conversion across a routed backbone, the
> > >network
> > >> receives a voltage spike and several of the packets are damaged.
Where
> are
> > >> the packets retransmitted from?
> > >>
> > >> Question 3:
> > >> Computer1 [Segment
> > >>
> >
>
>A]---RouterA--RouterB--[SegmentB]--Comp
> u
> > >> ter2
> > >> A packet is sent to Computer 2 from Computer 1. A collision occurs on
> > >> Segment B. Which device will retransmit the frame and what will the
> source
> > >> MAC address be (when the pack

Re: Purchase of Cisco Routers/Switches for CCIE Lab

[Brad Ellis]

John,

Ive got lots of gear.  What are you looking for?

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>
> I'm trying to build my own small CCIE lab at home and just want to start
> with maybe 4 or 5 routers. Can anyone recommend where I could possibly get
> some routers and possibly switches at a reasonable price? Appreciate any
> input.
>
>
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Support questions

[Tim Roberts]

I read somewhere that the support exam has the old style fill in the
blanks from memeory questions, not the drop down box.  Is this correct?
If so, how many of these should I expect to see?
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FECNs and BECNs and DE's too!

[jenny . mcleod]

Umm.. I think so.  I've never played around with that, though.

Have a look at commands 'frame-relay de-group' and 'frame-relay de-list'.  I
think they do what you want.

However, the reason I haven't bothered playing with this is because our carrier
told us that as packets enter their frame relay network, *all* packets count
towards working out whether you've hit the CIR, regardless of whether they
already have the DE bit set.  So if you set the DE bit on some packets, that
doesn't affect whether your higher-priority packets will get the DE bit set if
you're transmitting over your CIR - you're lowering the priority of some packets
without actually raising the priority of any others.

This probably varies from carrier to carrier, so talk to your carrier before
getting all excited about setting DE bits.

JMcL
-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 20/09/2000 08:28 am
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"Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 20/09/2000 02:19:52 am


To:   JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA@NOTES
cc:
Subject:  FECNs and BECNs and DE's too!



Question:

I know that the router cannot set the Becn's and Fecn's, but can it extend
QOS policies to set the DE bits on certain types of traffic?

What commands do you use for this?




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Subject: More on FECNs and BECNs
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:22:33 +1100



I think your instructor was thinking of the DE bit.
Have a look at http://www.frforum.com/basicguide/chap3.html#basictrail - the
basic guide to frame relay networking.
Excerpt (this refers to a diagram but you can probably work out what they're
saying without the diagram)...

"Let's suppose Node B is approaching a congestion condition. This could be
caused by a temporary peak in traffic coming into the node from various
sources
or by a peak in the amount of traffic on the link between B and C. Here is
how
forward congestion notification would occur:

Node B would detect the onset of congestion based on internal measures such
as
memory buffer usage or queue length.
Node B would signal Node C (the downstream node, toward the destination) of
the
congestion by changing the forward ECN (FECN) contained within the frames
destined for Node C from 0 to 1.
All interim downstream nodes, as well as the attached user device, would
thus
learn that congestion is occurring on the DLCI(s) affected. "

There is a similar description of BECNs.

JMcL

-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 19/09/2000
09:18 am
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"Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 19/09/2000 01:44:36
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Please respond to "Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA)
Subject:  More on FECNs and BECNs



I have received conflicting answers to this question from a number of
sources to include a Cisco Certified Instructor in a CIT course, so I am
posting the question here with hope that someone "out there" can clear this
up.  I have been told that when a frame enters a router with the BECN or
FECN bit high is this an indicator that there is congestion on a port on a
frame switch that the frame has traversed (I don't question this).  The
piece of the instructor's explanation that I have a problem with is that the
only frames that get the bit flipped are those that are part of a PVC that
is running outside its CIR.  He stated that the traffic moving through the
same congested port on other PVCs (those running under CIR) will not be
tagged even though they are moving through a congested port.  I thought that
every frame traversing the congested port gets the FECN or BECN bit flipped
(depending on direction).  I have found support for this in a couple of
books, but I have seen nothing that says definitively that ALL frames
through the congested port get tagged.
Many thanks in advance!

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RE:John Galt is that your final answer?

[dsilva]

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John Galt is a character in the Ann Ryn (sp?) novels.
\



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> I'll bite..   John Galt is that guy who shot that guy?   Never mind.. He
> only has two names so he can't be an assassin.  Is he a former president?
>  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: 'Ed'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> 
> I prefer to memorize the entire config and then type it in to the second
> router from memory - but that's just me. 
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Re: Router Bootup Problem

[Chris Larson]

Unfortunatley, this won't work. The router is not saying there is no IOS it
is saying that either the flash is bad or that
it has not been partitioned. If you have an older flash for same router, put
it back into
the router in the first slot and the new flash into the second slot. When
the router finds the IOS on the old flash and boots, go into config mode and
partition the flash.
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Subject: RE: Router Bootup Problem


> Have you ever opened the case on this router before.  Try reseating the
> flash memory module and copying an new flash image from tftp.
>
> Evan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 6:59 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Router Bootup Problem
>
>
> I have got a corrupt flash on my router. It goes to ROMMON after starting.
> IP doesn't start and it goes to same mood even if I change config-reg to
> 0x2101 . Its a 2600. See the startup message.
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
> C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>
> device does not contain a valid magic number
> boot: cannot open "flash:"
> boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
> C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>
> device does not contain a valid magic number
> boot: cannot open "flash:"
> boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
> C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>
> rommon 1 >
>
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Re: what does this configuration mean?

[Jason Centrella]

The configuration is the first step in making the bri 0 a backup interface
to the serial 0.  However the configuration is incomplete.  You can use
the bri 0 to backup the serial if it goes down, therefore it will be
replacing the serial.  You can also have the bri 0 assist the serial if a
specified load is exceededon the serial.  This load would be set by you,
the administrator.  Therefore the bri 0 could replace the serial, if it
were to go down or it can assist the serial if there is too much traffic
on the line.  These are choices for you to make.  Hope I helped.

-Jay

jeongwoo park wrote:

> HI all
> what does this configuration mean?
>
> Router(config)#interface S0
> Router(config-if)#backup interface bri0
>
> Does it mean that if S0 as a primary link fails, then
> this So interface will become bri0 interface as an
> backup link?
> or
> it means that another physical interface (here,bri0)
> will be activated while S0 is down?
>
> Which one is a correct interpretation?
>
> Thanks in adv.
>
> jeongwoo
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Re: Pass-thru DMZ?

[Jason Centrella]

DMZ stands for demilitarized zone.  It usually means that you are can put a
machine or server outside of your firewall.  This means that this particular
machine will not be protected by the firewall.

 -Jay

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> I wanted to find out what would be the correct setup/definition of a
> "pass-thru DMZ". I think the PIX experts would probably know this.
>
> Any comments are appreciated.
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Re: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?

[John Kaberna]

Thanks for finally contributing something useful to this thread.  About time
you offered some useful info.  As far as your whining about me I don't think
the group really cares.  I certainly do not.

John


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Subject: RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?


> Something I always liked on the groupstudy was the fact that unlikelly
other
> lists there weren't people like. I leave the list for 3 months when I come
> back I met a person like you.
>
> Anyway, I was not sure if you have something against me (I doubt it), or
> against the company that I work for (possible) or if you just have an
> attitude problem (most likelly). I didn't have to read many messages from
> the archive to find out that the you definetly have match the 3rd
category.
> In fact, your post about the CCIE written just confirmed that.
>
> If you look over the archive you'll find out that I've been countributing
to
> the list for a long time and always treated people with respect.
>
> Said that, let's go back to the original topic. I collected some
information
> from the routers and hopefully that's going to help us all understand
things
> a little better.
>
> On the router that is receiveing full routing from 3 different sources +
> some minor BGP tables from another source, I have:
>
> routername#sh proc mem
> Total: 113040320, Used: 81450168, Free: 31590152
>99   0  743336460   75256748   71727808  0  0 BGP
Router
>   101   0  59012  588774148   6796  31752  0 BGP I/O
>   102   0  08125308   6796  0  0 BGP
Scanner
>   81427968 Total
>
> routername#sh mem
> Head   Total(b)Used(b)Free(b)  Lowest(b)
Largest(b)
> Processor  61432440   113040320   81444248   31596072   27977536
27615736
>   Fast  61412440 131072 128728   2344   2344
2300
>
>
> routername#sh ip bgp sum
> BGP router identifier xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, local AS number 
> BGP table version is 23908473, main routing table version 23908473
> 87354 network entries and 66 paths using 16474914 bytes of memory
> 61018 BGP path attribute entries using 3175172 bytes of memory
> 27894 BGP AS-PATH entries using 721048 bytes of memory
> 1 BGP community entries using 24 bytes of memory
> 34880 BGP route-map cache entries using 558080 bytes of memory
> 0 BGP filter-list cache entries using 0 bytes of memory
> BGP activity 1483983/5039870 prefixes, 22873788/22651522 paths
>
> NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ
> Up/Down  State/PfxRcd
> x.x.x.x 4   xxx 9336739  130266 23908431 00 1w6d86890
> y.y.y.y 4   5879226 5971108 23908431 00 1w5d
> 47810
> z.z.z.z 4   1440681  130395 23908431 00 1w5d
> 306
> w.w.w.w 4   10460589 5988755 2390843100 2d23h
> 87256
>
> As you can see on this router, the output from sh ip bgp sum shows that
the
> BGP tables are really only 16Mb large, but the sh proc mem shows that the
> BGP process overall uses about 71Mb.
>
> I hope this post helps the rest of the members of the list.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 3:21 PM
> To: Spolidoro, Guilherme; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
>
>
> First of all I've never heard of an "as is" or "summarized" version.  It's
> either full routes or partial routes.   Second, you shouldn't say
something
> if your not prepared to explain what you mean.  I have received full
routes
> from several providers and the table has never taken up more than 20MB.  I
> have always requested full routes.
>
> John
> - Original Message -
> From: Spolidoro, Guilherme
> To: Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:01 PM
> Subject: RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
>
>
> Some ISPs offer full routing in two flavors: "as is" or a "summarized"
> version (maybe that's the case). Please don't ask any additional details
> because that was long long time ago...
> -Original Message-
> From: Guyler, Rik [EESUS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:06 PM
> To: John Kaberna; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
>
>
> I don't know the nuances involved, but he stated that the Internet routing
> table a year ago was over 70,000 routes and is probably closer to 90,000
> routes right now.  Maybe you did not see the complete table when you saw
> 20MB?  I don't know...  Like I said, however, he is a 3xxx CCIE and a
Cisco
> SE, so I find it hard to refute his word.  Not that I'm saying you are
> wrong, just that I find him to be extremely cre

Re: what does this configuration mean?

[Team RouterGod]

It means that if your serial link goes down,
the router will want to bring up the ISDN.

The commands are here (frame relay using the bri0 to back up):
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_mod/1600/1600swcf
/frmrelay.htm#xtocid563825

Watch the word wrap and this is one of those links with an anchor so scroll
up to the top of the page for the full nitty gritty.

A serial interface can not "become" a BRI interface.

HTH




> HI all
> what does this configuration mean?
>
> Router(config)#interface S0
> Router(config-if)#backup interface bri0
>
> Does it mean that if S0 as a primary link fails, then
> this So interface will become bri0 interface as an
> backup link?
> or
> it means that another physical interface (here,bri0)
> will be activated while S0 is down?
>
> Which one is a correct interpretation?
>
> Thanks in adv.
>
> jeongwoo
>
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ACRC Objective question.

[Ejay Hire]

Here's a question that was in a study guide I couldn't answer.

What 3 things does a router need to know to be able to send packet to their 
destination?

I was thinking...

Next-Hop address
Next-Hop interface
???


The answers weren't in the book, so I'm passing it on to the group.



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STOP THIS..: Bring equipments in and out of US]

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> convincing them that the gear would leave when i did ( 6 weeks time
> period ), they noted the serial numbers on my passport and let me on my
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> I left the country...
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> > bring them back again. What can I do to avoid any inport and export taxes
> > since I plan to bring the same equipments in and out for personal use.
But
> > I'm sure I'll have a hard time convincing them that I have 6 routers for
> > personal use !! :-P
> >
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BGP - Internet Routing Architectures, Second Edition

[John Deatherage]

Group...

I was asking a lot of BGP questions on here until I bought this book
Internet Routing Architectures (Cisco Press: ISBN1-57870-233-X, by Sam
Halabi) - the second edition just came out, and it is one of the best Cisco
press books I have read, if not the best.  It really tackles the complexties
and nuances of BGP and wraps them into one concise book...  Our company is
multihomed to different providers, and the book answers my questions like it
knew what I was looking for.  I would recommend this to *anyone* thinking of
using BGP.

The only thing I think the book is missing is a few case studies, but those
can be found elsewhere.  The book is only $55, but I gladly would have paid
$110 ;)

As for the minimum reqs. for BGP, I would say a 3660 if you are going to be
receiving full routes from your upsteam provider.  (256mb max).  Yes, it
will work on a 3640 with 128mb, but you aren't leaving yourself much room
for expansion on the box, traffic, or size of the routing table.  One of our
downstream customers couldn't even run BGP on their 3660 with 256mb because
it had several active E1 links and voice ports.   Your mileage may vary.  If
you can't afford better than a 3640, you seriously need to evaluate why you
want to do full BGP anyway.

John

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Re: what does this configuration mean?

[Ejay Hire]

Tt means that another physical interface (here,bri0)
will be activated while S0 is down.

It can alos be used with Dialer interfaces, so that if you have multiple 
BRI, it can bring up multiple channels.

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Subject: what does this configuration mean?
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:55:30 -0700 (PDT)

HI all
what does this configuration mean?

Router(config)#interface S0
Router(config-if)#backup interface bri0

Does it mean that if S0 as a primary link fails, then
this So interface will become bri0 interface as an
backup link?
or
it means that another physical interface (here,bri0)
will be activated while S0 is down?

Which one is a correct interpretation?

Thanks in adv.

jeongwoo


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Re: Report - Global Knowlege BGP class

[Jim Erickson]

"Marshal Schoener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
D561FA4DFDF0D2119AA900104B1F46AE1AF408@monster">news:D561FA4DFDF0D2119AA900104B1F46AE1AF408@monster...
> I'm taking a Global Knowledge course on the BCSN this Monday!
> If the instructor tries leaving early, I would NOT be as calm about it as
> you!  My course is 5 days, but I will have someone's head if ANY of them
are
> cut short :-)
> Although my company is flipping the bill for this, it is a lot of money,
and
>
> if any class is cut short, I will expect either a full refund, or another
> course...

FYI,

If the GK BSCN course uses the official Cisco materials, the last day is
mainly a "superlab" that, if you've been listening and understanding the
previous four days, you can complete in an hour or two. Its more-or-less a
combination of all of the previous course labs. My lab partner and I were
out of there by 11:00, even having taken quite a bit of time to 'play'.

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RE: PIX and OSPF

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

>you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to avoid using
>multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf passtrough.

But why do you want to pass through?  It seems counter to good 
security practice.

>
>
>
>  > -Mensaje original-
>  > De:Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  > Enviado el:Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM
>  > Para:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > Asunto:PIX and OSPF
>  >
>  > Greetings,
>  >
>  > I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning OSPF.  I'll be
>  > installing a PIX between 2 7XXX router:
>  >
>  > Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2
>  > OSPF   OSPF
>  >
>  >
>  > Do I've to do anything special on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any help is great.
>  >
>  >
>  > thanks,
>  >
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RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?

[Spolidoro, Guilherme]

Something I always liked on the groupstudy was the fact that unlikelly other
lists there weren't people like. I leave the list for 3 months when I come
back I met a person like you.

Anyway, I was not sure if you have something against me (I doubt it), or
against the company that I work for (possible) or if you just have an
attitude problem (most likelly). I didn't have to read many messages from
the archive to find out that the you definetly have match the 3rd category.
In fact, your post about the CCIE written just confirmed that.

If you look over the archive you'll find out that I've been countributing to
the list for a long time and always treated people with respect.

Said that, let's go back to the original topic. I collected some information
from the routers and hopefully that's going to help us all understand things
a little better.

On the router that is receiveing full routing from 3 different sources +
some minor BGP tables from another source, I have:

routername#sh proc mem
Total: 113040320, Used: 81450168, Free: 31590152
   99   0  743336460   75256748   71727808  0  0 BGP Router
  101   0  59012  588774148   6796  31752  0 BGP I/O
  102   0  08125308   6796  0  0 BGP Scanner
  81427968 Total

routername#sh mem
Head   Total(b)Used(b)Free(b)  Lowest(b) Largest(b)
Processor  61432440   113040320   81444248   31596072   27977536   27615736
  Fast  61412440 131072 128728   2344   2344   2300


routername#sh ip bgp sum
BGP router identifier xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, local AS number 
BGP table version is 23908473, main routing table version 23908473
87354 network entries and 66 paths using 16474914 bytes of memory
61018 BGP path attribute entries using 3175172 bytes of memory
27894 BGP AS-PATH entries using 721048 bytes of memory
1 BGP community entries using 24 bytes of memory
34880 BGP route-map cache entries using 558080 bytes of memory
0 BGP filter-list cache entries using 0 bytes of memory
BGP activity 1483983/5039870 prefixes, 22873788/22651522 paths

NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ 
Up/Down  State/PfxRcd
x.x.x.x 4   xxx 9336739  130266 23908431 00 1w6d86890
y.y.y.y 4   5879226 5971108 23908431 00 1w5d
47810
z.z.z.z 4   1440681  130395 23908431 00 1w5d
306
w.w.w.w 4   10460589 5988755 2390843100 2d23h
87256

As you can see on this router, the output from sh ip bgp sum shows that the
BGP tables are really only 16Mb large, but the sh proc mem shows that the
BGP process overall uses about 71Mb.

I hope this post helps the rest of the members of the list. 



-Original Message-
From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 3:21 PM
To: Spolidoro, Guilherme; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?


First of all I've never heard of an "as is" or "summarized" version.  It's
either full routes or partial routes.   Second, you shouldn't say something
if your not prepared to explain what you mean.  I have received full routes
from several providers and the table has never taken up more than 20MB.  I
have always requested full routes.

John
- Original Message - 
From: Spolidoro, Guilherme 
To: Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail) 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:01 PM
Subject: RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?


Some ISPs offer full routing in two flavors: "as is" or a "summarized"
version (maybe that's the case). Please don't ask any additional details
because that was long long time ago...
-Original Message-
From: Guyler, Rik [EESUS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:06 PM
To: John Kaberna; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?


I don't know the nuances involved, but he stated that the Internet routing
table a year ago was over 70,000 routes and is probably closer to 90,000
routes right now.  Maybe you did not see the complete table when you saw
20MB?  I don't know...  Like I said, however, he is a 3xxx CCIE and a Cisco
SE, so I find it hard to refute his word.  Not that I'm saying you are
wrong, just that I find him to be extremely credible.
 
Rik
-Original Message-
From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 4:16 PM
To: Guyler, Rik [EESUS]; Jeff Wang; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?


The BGP routing table itself takes up less than 20MB of memory last time I
checked (only a couple months ago).  I don't have access to a router running
full BGP routes right this moment but someone should verify this.  I am
fairly certain it is less than 20.  So, you can run it just fine on a 3640
with 128mb.  I completely disagree with this "experienced" CCIE.  However,
his routers 

RE: Jobs

[Kuldip Singh]

Title: RE: Jobs





Move to silicon valleyjust kidding..
Have you posted your resume on following?
monster.com
dice.com
jobs.com
hotjobs.com
etc


-Original Message-
From: Stephane Wantou Siantou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 11:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Jobs




    Ho Everyone,
    I am about to become CCNP (by the end of the month).  I live in
the Washington, D.C. area.  I don't have any job opportunity.  Nor do I
get people calling me for interviews.  I am very worried because I spent a
lot of my time studying for this and I wouldn't want it to go down the
drain.  Can anybody help?  I would do anything including Part-time jobs or
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Re: CCIE Questions...

[Donald B Johnson Jr]

Wrong again john some of us beleive in the certification process. We work
hard to acheive the cert and don't want the process tainted more than it is.
Seems to me the only people that don't care about the nda ARE THE PAPER
TYPES and the ones who have no experience in networking but think they
should get a job because they remembered some facts. Thats what we like
about the ccie program, no pretenders just the lab and those standing. when
i pass it will be because I qualified, me "Donald B Johnson Jr" not because
I broke the nda.
hey here is a good question
Any CCIE that passed the lab without any hands on experience please tell us
how you did it not what was on the test?
And actually we did not initiate the certification process we inherited it.
I think from the boy scouts, you know all those badges. god I loved that
handbook.
Duck
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From: John Kaberna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley
J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


> You people spend way too much time snitching.  I bet a lot of you got beat
> up and teased frequently in high school.  Let Cisco worry about its NDA.
It
> doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course)
doing
> its job for them.  Geez people some of you need to get a life.
>
> John
>
> PS.  You can report me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you want to whine
about
> what I have to say.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> > Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big
names"
> in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
> lawyers who represent Cisco.
> > Lori
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
> >  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> > >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> > >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
> Heck,
> > >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
> long...
> > >
> > >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> > >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring
Cisco-related
> > >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not -
what
> a
> > >job from hell that would be.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: Louie Belt
> > >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> > >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
> needs
> > >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> > >
> > >
> > >LAB
> > >
> > >Who is John Galt?
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >FRS
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> > >
> > >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> Question 1:
> > >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> > >serial
> > >> line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is connected to
Router
> B.
> > >A
> > >> packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the serial line causes
> an
> > >> error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> > >>
> > >> Question 2:
> > >> During the middle of a TCP conversion across a routed backbone, the
> > >network
> > >> receives a voltage spike and several of the packets are damaged.
Where
> are
> > >> the packets retransmitted from?
> > >>
> > >> Question 3:
> > >> Computer1 [Segment
> > >>
> >
>
>A]---RouterA--RouterB--[SegmentB]--Comp
> u
> > >> ter2
> > >> A packet is sent to Computer 2 from Computer 1. A collision occurs on
> > >> Segment B. Which device will retransmit the frame and what will the
> source
> > >> MAC address be (when the packet actually reaches Segment B)?
> > >>
> > >> Question 4:
> > >> When computer A sends a frame to computer B across many routers, how
> will
> > >> the source and destination layer 3 addresses change? How will the
> source
> > >and
> > >> destination layer 2 addresses change?
> > >>
> > >>
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RE: Blocking Napster on the PIX

[Omar Baceski]

jeje, all you have to do, is to block the initial connection to the napster
server. this happaens in the tcp port 8875, gnuttella on tcp 6346, icq 2000
tcp 5190, icq tcp and udp 4000. all are dest. ports, of course.

ah, if you want to block the new "Scour exchange", block the connection with
the host  63.251.203.102. thats all.

your internals will hate you, i promisse.  

> -Mensaje original-
> De:   Liwanag, Manolito [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el:   Tuesday, September 19, 2000 5:14 PM
> Para: 'Cisco Group Study'
> Asunto:   Blocking Napster on the PIX
> 
> Can anyone give me a pointer on how to stop our internal users from
> downloading things using Napster.  I have a PIX 520 firewall with 5.03.
> 
> I tried :
> outbound  300 deny 64.124.41.35 255.255.255.240 0 tcp
> outbound  300 deny 208.178.175.128 255.255.255.248 0 tcp
> outbound  300 deny 208.49.239.240 255.255.255.240 0 tcp
> outbound  300 deny 208.49.228.0 255.255.255.0 0 tcp
> outbound  300 deny 208.184.216.0 255.255.255.0 0 tcp
> outbound  300 deny 208.178.163.56 255.255.255.248 0 tcp
> apply (inside) 300 outgoing_dest
> 
> Unfortunately this did not stop users with the Napster client already
> installed from donwloading mp3s.
> 
> Any sound advice is most welcomed.
> 
> rgds,
> Manolito
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RE: copy configs

[Sereno, Patrick]

Title: RE: copy configs





David and Cory,


One more trick on the logging is to set the terminal length to 0 (Command: terminal length 0).  This way you don't get the --More-- prompts.

Patrick


-Original Message-
From: Stull, Cory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 2:14 PM
To: 'David Toalson'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: copy configs



David,


That is a fine way to do it but there is an even easier way...   From telnet
you can use the terminal, start logging,  log the output to a text file
whereever you want and then stop logging.   This eliminates the cut and
paste hassle.


Cory


-Original Message-
From: David Toalson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 1:15 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: FW: copy configs



The simplest way I have found is to either telnet or console into the
first router, then do a sh config.  Highlight the entire config and copy
it to notepad or word processor, make the changes and then copy it to
your 2nd router while in the config t mode.  I also use this method to
save my configs to text files on our network.


Hope this helps.
David Toalson
816-701-4142


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> Reply To:     Provost, Rob
> Sent:     Monday, September 18, 2000 2:25 PM
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:  copy configs
> 
> How can I copy the configs from one router and then copy them to
> another?  Both are 2500s. 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
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> 
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Re: CCIE Questions...

[patric . ozoux]

Thanks John, I think like you, and I am so tired of this garbage that I
leave that study group to "Who is John Galt?" and others of the same kind.
I take the CCIE written next week and I need to focus on Cisco and only
Cisco.
Thank you to all network engineers who provide good information and good
luck to all.
Patrick




"John Kaberna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/19/2000 03:17:54 PM

Please respond to "John Kaberna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To:   "Lori  S Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:(bcc: Patrick Ozoux/CORP/IAME/ICI)

Subject:  Re: CCIE Questions...




You people spend way too much time snitching.  I bet a lot of you got beat
up and teased frequently in high school.  Let Cisco worry about its NDA.
It
doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course) doing
its job for them.  Geez people some of you need to get a life.

John

PS.  You can report me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you want to whine about
what I have to say.

- Original Message -
From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


> Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big
names"
in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
lawyers who represent Cisco.
> Lori
> --
>
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
>  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
Heck,
> >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
long...
> >
> >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring
Cisco-related
> >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not -
what
a
> >job from hell that would be.
> >
> >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Louie Belt
> >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> >
> >
> >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
needs
> >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> >
> >
> >LAB
> >
> >Who is John Galt?
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >FRS
> >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> >
> >
> >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> >
> >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Question 1:
> >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> >serial
> >> line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is connected to
Router
B.
> >A
> >> packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the serial line causes
an
> >> error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> >>
> >> Question 2:
> >> During the middle of a TCP conversion across a routed backbone, the
> >network
> >> receives a voltage spike and several of the packets are damaged. Where
are
> >> the packets retransmitted from?
> >>
> >> Question 3:
> >> Computer1 [Segment
> >>
>
>A]---RouterA--RouterB--[SegmentB]--Com
p
u
> >> ter2
> >> A packet is sent to Computer 2 from Computer 1. A collision occurs on
> >> Segment B. Which device will retransmit the frame and what will the
source
> >> MAC address be (when the packet actually reaches Segment B)?
> >>
> >> Question 4:
> >> When computer A sends a frame to computer B across many routers, how
will
> >> the source and destination layer 3 addresses change? How will the
source
> >and
> >> destination layer 2 addresses change?
> >>
> >>
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RE: CCIE Questions...

[Marshal Schoener]

 The only cert
that means a thing in my opinion is the CCIE lab.
>>

No offense, but that is absolutely ridiculous!
Many people here have worked very hard and studied very hard for their
CCNPs!  You should not insult them by telling them that all their efforts,
"don't mean a thing"!

They damn sure do
The ultimate in education is a PHD, but that doesn't mean that a masters,
"Don't mean a thing"  !!!


-Original Message-
From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Lori S Carter'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
'Bradley J. Wilson'
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


Everyone that uses ANY kind of testing software is assuredly part of
violating the NDA.  Those people that create those tests do it every day and
then we use their material to study.  Where do you think they come up with
the questions that are exact or damn near the real test?  So, unless you
don't use testing software your just as guilty as the guy everyone is
whining about.  Besides, certifications don't mean squat if you can't back
it up.  I've seen plenty of CCNP's that don't know sh!t and they didn't
violate the NDA.  Written tests are all cheap if you ask me.  The only cert
that means a thing in my opinion is the CCIE lab.

John

- Original Message -
From: Louie Belt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'John Kaberna' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Lori S Carter'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Bradley J. Wilson'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...


> John, the reason we despise those who violate the NDA is that they cheapen
> the Cisco certifications for all of those who worked, studied and followed
> the rules to get their certifications.  Why would we let someone lessen
the
> value of what we have achieved?  We do not want Cisco's certifications to
> become worthless and everyone who violates the NDA, cheapens the value of
> our work and effort. Is that your goal?
>
>
>
> Louie
>
> "Thinking is man's only basic virtue, from which all others proceed. And
his
> basic vice, the source of all his evils, is that nameless act which all of
> you practice, but struggle never to admit... the refusal to think; not
> blindness, but the refusal to see; not ignorance, but the refusal to
know."
> - John Galt
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> John Kaberna
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:18 PM
> To: Lori S Carter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bradley J. Wilson
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> You people spend way too much time snitching.  I bet a lot of you got beat
> up and teased frequently in high school.  Let Cisco worry about its NDA.
It
> doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course)
doing
> its job for them.  Geez people some of you need to get a life.
>
> John
>
> PS.  You can report me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you want to whine
about
> what I have to say.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> > Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big
names"
> in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
> lawyers who represent Cisco.
> > Lori
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
> >  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> > >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> > >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
> Heck,
> > >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
> long...
> > >
> > >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> > >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring
Cisco-related
> > >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not -
what
> a
> > >job from hell that would be.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: Louie Belt
> > >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> > >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
> needs
> > >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> > >
> > >
> > >LAB
> > >
> > >Who is John Galt?
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >FRS
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> > >
> > >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> Question 1:
> > >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> > >serial
> > >

Re: viso shapes

[Donald B Johnson Jr]

What
Duck
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Subject: viso shapes


> Is there a source for Visio shapes for some of the newer cisco gear?
Either
> commerical or freeware will work.  Note that I'm not asking for pirated
> copies of anything, just a pointer to where I can purchase them.  Thanks!
>
> Henry Malmgren
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tresholds for Ether and Serial

[Anna Janowska]

Hi

Has anyone, found a treasure chest with recommended
tresholds values for Ethernet and for Serial interface
as well as for cpu, memory and so on.

I had done some search and found a lot, however,  not 
at one place and not consistent. 

To give an example for Ethernet interface, some refer
1%of collisions is bad, some say 5%is OK that is of
throughput. 

When involved in network monitoring what is the best
place to look for answers.

Help will be greatly appreciated, Anna

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RE: CCIE Questions...

[Miller, Nathan (AZ15)]

John,
Perhaps you have not grasped the idea that systematic violation of the NDAs
devalues the certs that we are all (yourself included - I assume) working to
earn.  I for one, do not want the pool of CCNPs and CCIEs diluted by those
who are incapable of passing the exams without memorizing the answers to a
few specific questions.  A significant part of the value of these certs
comes from the perception (justified or not) that more than memorization is
required to attain them.
Regards,

Nathan Miller
 

-Original Message-
From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:18 PM
To: Lori S Carter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bradley J. Wilson
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


You people spend way too much time snitching.  I bet a lot of you got beat
up and teased frequently in high school.  Let Cisco worry about its NDA.  It
doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course) doing
its job for them.  Geez people some of you need to get a life.

John

PS.  You can report me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you want to whine about
what I have to say.

- Original Message -
From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


> Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big names"
in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
lawyers who represent Cisco.
> Lori
> --
>
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
>  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
Heck,
> >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
long...
> >
> >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring Cisco-related
> >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not - what
a
> >job from hell that would be.
> >
> >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Louie Belt
> >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> >
> >
> >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
needs
> >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> >
> >
> >LAB
> >
> >Who is John Galt?
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >FRS
> >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> >
> >
> >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> >
> >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Question 1:
> >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> >serial
> >> line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is connected to Router
B.
> >A
> >> packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the serial line causes
an
> >> error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> >>
> >> Question 2:
> >> During the middle of a TCP conversion across a routed backbone, the
> >network
> >> receives a voltage spike and several of the packets are damaged. Where
are
> >> the packets retransmitted from?
> >>
> >> Question 3:
> >> Computer1 [Segment
> >>
>
>A]---RouterA--RouterB--[SegmentB]--Comp
u
> >> ter2
> >> A packet is sent to Computer 2 from Computer 1. A collision occurs on
> >> Segment B. Which device will retransmit the frame and what will the
source
> >> MAC address be (when the packet actually reaches Segment B)?
> >>
> >> Question 4:
> >> When computer A sends a frame to computer B across many routers, how
will
> >> the source and destination layer 3 addresses change? How will the
source
> >and
> >> destination layer 2 addresses change?
> >>
> >>
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RE: Router Bootup Problem

[Evan Francen]

Have you ever opened the case on this router before.  Try reseating the
flash memory module and copying an new flash image from tftp.

Evan

-Original Message-
From: Peter Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 6:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Router Bootup Problem


I have got a corrupt flash on my router. It goes to ROMMON after starting. 
IP doesn't start and it goes to same mood even if I change config-reg to 
0x2101 . Its a 2600. See the startup message.

System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory

device does not contain a valid magic number
boot: cannot open "flash:"
boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"

System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory

device does not contain a valid magic number
boot: cannot open "flash:"
boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"

System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory

rommon 1 >

Any comments!

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Recommedations for CCNP

[Steve Roman]

I am a recent CCNP and am currently looking around for area to further my
experience.  My current work environment is a basic Lan and I would really
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Re: Router Bootup Problem

[Rod Christie]

Try the following link to Download a software image to a cisco 2600 via tftp
using the tftpdnld rommon command

hhtp://www.cisco.com/warp/public/471/76.html

""Peter Gray"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have got a corrupt flash on my router. It goes to ROMMON after starting.
> IP doesn't start and it goes to same mood even if I change config-reg to
> 0x2101 . Its a 2600. See the startup message.
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
> C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>
> device does not contain a valid magic number
> boot: cannot open "flash:"
> boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
> C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>
> device does not contain a valid magic number
> boot: cannot open "flash:"
> boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
> C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>
> rommon 1 >
>
> Any comments!
>
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[Fwd: Re: CCIE Questions...]

[Jonathan Hays]

Rather crudely put, but in essence I agree. Please put more time in
studying the Cisco Product Documentation and less time in flamewars and
whining.

See: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/home/home.htm

John Kaberna wrote:
> 
> You people spend way too much time snitching.  I bet a lot of you got beat
> up and teased frequently in high school.  Let Cisco worry about its NDA.  It
> doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course) doing
> its job for them.  Geez people some of you need to get a life.
> 
> John
> 
> PS.  You can report me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you want to whine about
> what I have to say.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> 
> > Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big names"
> in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
> lawyers who represent Cisco.
> > Lori
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
> >  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> > >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> > >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
> Heck,
> > >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
> long...
> > >
> > >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> > >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring Cisco-related
> > >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not - what
> a
> > >job from hell that would be.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: Louie Belt
> > >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> > >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
> needs
> > >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> > >
> > >
> > >LAB
> > >
> > >Who is John Galt?
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >FRS
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> > >
> > >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> Question 1:
> > >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> > >serial
> > >> line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is connected to Router
> B.
> > >A
> > >> packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the serial line causes
> an
> > >> error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> > >>
> > >> Question 2:
> > >> During the middle of a TCP conversion across a routed backbone, the
> > >network
> > >> receives a voltage spike and several of the packets are damaged. Where
> are
> > >> the packets retransmitted from?
> > >>
> > >> Question 3:
> > >> Computer1 [Segment
> > >>
> >
> >A]---RouterA--RouterB--[SegmentB]--Comp
> u
> > >> ter2
> > >> A packet is sent to Computer 2 from Computer 1. A collision occurs on
> > >> Segment B. Which device will retransmit the frame and what will the
> source
> > >> MAC address be (when the packet actually reaches Segment B)?
> > >>
> > >> Question 4:
> > >> When computer A sends a frame to computer B across many routers, how
> will
> > >> the source and destination layer 3 addresses change? How will the
> source
> > >and
> > >> destination layer 2 addresses change?
> > >>
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RE: CCIE Questions...

[Louie Belt]

So I gather that you feel it is perfectly OK, to divulge information that
you have agreed not to disclose.  If that is the case, don't agree to the
NDA and see if Cisco is willing to let you test anyway.

While I agree that the written tests have limited value, they are a measure
of knowledge, in the case if the CCIE written, it is a qualifying exam for
the lab.  As such you need to demonstrate a level of knowledge that shows
you have a credible chance of passing the lab.  If you want people to pass
this test by simply memorizing the questions, then the test serves no
purpose.  You can then look forward to a 2 year wait to get to the lab since
thousands will take it without being qualified.  It is a waste of their time
as well as Cisco's.  It also prevents those who are qualified from being
able to obtain their CCIE in a timely manner.  Is this the result you want
to provide?


Louie

When I disagree with a rational man, I let reality be our final arbiter; If
I am right, he will learn, If I am wrong, I will; one of us will win, but
both of us will profit.

- John Galt


-Original Message-
From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 3:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Lori S Carter'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
'Bradley J. Wilson'
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


Everyone that uses ANY kind of testing software is assuredly part of
violating the NDA.  Those people that create those tests do it every day and
then we use their material to study.  Where do you think they come up with
the questions that are exact or damn near the real test?  So, unless you
don't use testing software your just as guilty as the guy everyone is
whining about.  Besides, certifications don't mean squat if you can't back
it up.  I've seen plenty of CCNP's that don't know sh!t and they didn't
violate the NDA.  Written tests are all cheap if you ask me.  The only cert
that means a thing in my opinion is the CCIE lab.

John

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Re: PIX and OSPF

[John Kaberna]

Don't pass any info from the ISP inside.  Use the PIX as your default 
gateway for outbound traffic and on the PIX point the default to the inside 
ethernet of your Internet router.  On the Internet router point to your 
ISP.  Very standard practice.
 
John
 
Lorenzo Montezemolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
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How would this work if NAT were in place?  We're thinking about 
doing> something similar where we have our ISP-managed router 
passing> default-network information from outside, through the PIX, and 
to the> inside.  Any thoughts?> > Lorenzo> 
> > > ""Omar Baceski"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
message> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
| you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to avoid using> 
| multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf 
passtrough.> |> |> |> | > -Mensaje 
original-> | > De: Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]> | 
> Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM> | > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > 
Asunto: PIX and OSPF> | >> | > Greetings,> | 
>> | > I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning 
OSPF.  I'll> be> | > installing a PIX between 2 7XXX 
router:> | >> | > 
Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2> | > 
OSPF   
OSPF> | >> | >> | > Do I've to do anything special 
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Re: Router Bootup Problem

[Chris Boyd]

In Rommon mode if you type tftpdnld it will give you instructions on how to
download a new IOS to the Flash pat attention to syntax it is case sensitive
and at the end type reset to reload the router!  You should be all set after
that!

Thanks,

Chris Boyd
Network Support
Alex Lee, Inc.
120 4th Street SW
Hickory, NC 28601
(828) 323-4103
http://www.alexlee.com
- Original Message -
From: "Peter Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 7:59 PM
Subject: Router Bootup Problem


> I have got a corrupt flash on my router. It goes to ROMMON after starting.
> IP doesn't start and it goes to same mood even if I change config-reg to
> 0x2101 . Its a 2600. See the startup message.
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
> C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>
> device does not contain a valid magic number
> boot: cannot open "flash:"
> boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
> C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>
> device does not contain a valid magic number
> boot: cannot open "flash:"
> boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
> C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>
> rommon 1 >
>
> Any comments!
>
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Re: CCIE Questions...

[John Kaberna]

Everyone that uses ANY kind of testing software is assuredly part of
violating the NDA.  Those people that create those tests do it every day and
then we use their material to study.  Where do you think they come up with
the questions that are exact or damn near the real test?  So, unless you
don't use testing software your just as guilty as the guy everyone is
whining about.  Besides, certifications don't mean squat if you can't back
it up.  I've seen plenty of CCNP's that don't know sh!t and they didn't
violate the NDA.  Written tests are all cheap if you ask me.  The only cert
that means a thing in my opinion is the CCIE lab.

John

- Original Message -
From: Louie Belt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'John Kaberna' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Lori S Carter'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Bradley J. Wilson'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...


> John, the reason we despise those who violate the NDA is that they cheapen
> the Cisco certifications for all of those who worked, studied and followed
> the rules to get their certifications.  Why would we let someone lessen
the
> value of what we have achieved?  We do not want Cisco's certifications to
> become worthless and everyone who violates the NDA, cheapens the value of
> our work and effort. Is that your goal?
>
>
>
> Louie
>
> "Thinking is man's only basic virtue, from which all others proceed. And
his
> basic vice, the source of all his evils, is that nameless act which all of
> you practice, but struggle never to admit... the refusal to think; not
> blindness, but the refusal to see; not ignorance, but the refusal to
know."
> - John Galt
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> John Kaberna
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:18 PM
> To: Lori S Carter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bradley J. Wilson
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> You people spend way too much time snitching.  I bet a lot of you got beat
> up and teased frequently in high school.  Let Cisco worry about its NDA.
It
> doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course)
doing
> its job for them.  Geez people some of you need to get a life.
>
> John
>
> PS.  You can report me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you want to whine
about
> what I have to say.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
>
>
> > Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big
names"
> in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
> lawyers who represent Cisco.
> > Lori
> > --
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
> >  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> > >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> > >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
> Heck,
> > >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
> long...
> > >
> > >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> > >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring
Cisco-related
> > >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not -
what
> a
> > >job from hell that would be.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: Louie Belt
> > >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> > >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
> needs
> > >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> > >
> > >
> > >LAB
> > >
> > >Who is John Galt?
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >FRS
> > >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> > >
> > >
> > >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> > >
> > >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> Question 1:
> > >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> > >serial
> > >> line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is connected to
Router
> B.
> > >A
> > >> packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the serial line causes
> an
> > >> error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> > >>
> > >> Question 2:
> > >> During the middle of a TCP conversion across a routed backbone, the
> > >network
> > >> receives a voltage spike and several of the packets are damaged.
Where
> are
> > >> the packets retransmitted from?
> > >>
> > >> Question 3:
> > >> Computer1 [Segment
> > >>
> >
>
>A]---RouterA--RouterB--[SegmentB]--Comp
> u
> > >> ter2
> > >> A packet is sen

911....Help Needed "soft error" Token Ring

[Leon Bass]

I have been trying to track down a solution for this error, any suggestions
are appreciated.
I have changed cables.
And in the process of scheduling to switch TokenRing cards.
I have pasted the interface with the erroe as it appears.
TokenRing0/0 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is IBM, address is 1110.12ae.1212 (bia 0180.69ae.1234)
  Internet address is 192.99.29.1/24
  MTU 4464 bytes, BW 16000 Kbit, DLY 630 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload
1/255
  Encapsulation SNAP, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  ARP type: SNAP, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Ring speed: 16 Mbps
  Duplex: half
  Mode: Classic token ring station
  Group Address: 0x, Functional Address: 0x0800
  Ethernet Transit OUI: 0x00
  Last Ring Status 00:32:29  (0x2000)
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 1 bits/sec, 11 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 2000 bits/sec, 3 packets/sec
 2968655 packets input, 416906220 bytes, 0
no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants,
0 throttles
 256 input errors, 2 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun,
0 ignored, 0 abort
 --More--
 

Blocking Napster on the PIX

[Liwanag, Manolito]

Can anyone give me a pointer on how to stop our internal users from
downloading things using Napster.  I have a PIX 520 firewall with 5.03.

I tried :
outbound  300 deny 64.124.41.35 255.255.255.240 0 tcp
outbound  300 deny 208.178.175.128 255.255.255.248 0 tcp
outbound  300 deny 208.49.239.240 255.255.255.240 0 tcp
outbound  300 deny 208.49.228.0 255.255.255.0 0 tcp
outbound  300 deny 208.184.216.0 255.255.255.0 0 tcp
outbound  300 deny 208.178.163.56 255.255.255.248 0 tcp
apply (inside) 300 outgoing_dest

Unfortunately this did not stop users with the Napster client already
installed from donwloading mp3s.

Any sound advice is most welcomed.

rgds,
Manolito

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Re: Just Passed Routing 2.0 --Which exam Next

[kikpasa]

Which book did you use for the Switching exam

Patrick Bass wrote:

> I did switching for my cert track.  Now I'm on remote access, finally
> troubleshooting.
>
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> > is to know what exam to sit next in the CCNP group
> >
> > Cheers
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RE: CCIE Questions...

[Louie Belt]

John, the reason we despise those who violate the NDA is that they cheapen
the Cisco certifications for all of those who worked, studied and followed
the rules to get their certifications.  Why would we let someone lessen the
value of what we have achieved?  We do not want Cisco's certifications to
become worthless and everyone who violates the NDA, cheapens the value of
our work and effort. Is that your goal?



Louie

"Thinking is man's only basic virtue, from which all others proceed. And his
basic vice, the source of all his evils, is that nameless act which all of
you practice, but struggle never to admit... the refusal to think; not
blindness, but the refusal to see; not ignorance, but the refusal to know."
– John Galt




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
John Kaberna
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:18 PM
To: Lori S Carter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bradley J. Wilson
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


You people spend way too much time snitching.  I bet a lot of you got beat
up and teased frequently in high school.  Let Cisco worry about its NDA.  It
doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course) doing
its job for them.  Geez people some of you need to get a life.

John

PS.  You can report me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when you want to whine about
what I have to say.

- Original Message -
From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


> Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big names"
in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
lawyers who represent Cisco.
> Lori
> --
>
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
>  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
Heck,
> >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
long...
> >
> >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring Cisco-related
> >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not - what
a
> >job from hell that would be.
> >
> >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Louie Belt
> >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> >
> >
> >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
needs
> >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> >
> >
> >LAB
> >
> >Who is John Galt?
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >FRS
> >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> >
> >
> >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> >
> >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Question 1:
> >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> >serial
> >> line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is connected to Router
B.
> >A
> >> packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the serial line causes
an
> >> error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> >>
> >> Question 2:
> >> During the middle of a TCP conversion across a routed backbone, the
> >network
> >> receives a voltage spike and several of the packets are damaged. Where
are
> >> the packets retransmitted from?
> >>
> >> Question 3:
> >> Computer1 [Segment
> >>
>
>A]---RouterA--RouterB--[SegmentB]--Comp
u
> >> ter2
> >> A packet is sent to Computer 2 from Computer 1. A collision occurs on
> >> Segment B. Which device will retransmit the frame and what will the
source
> >> MAC address be (when the packet actually reaches Segment B)?
> >>
> >> Question 4:
> >> When computer A sends a frame to computer B across many routers, how
will
> >> the source and destination layer 3 addresses change? How will the
source
> >and
> >> destination layer 2 addresses change?
> >>
> >>
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what does this configuration mean?

[jeongwoo park]

HI all
what does this configuration mean?

Router(config)#interface S0
Router(config-if)#backup interface bri0

Does it mean that if S0 as a primary link fails, then
this So interface will become bri0 interface as an
backup link?
or
it means that another physical interface (here,bri0)
will be activated while S0 is down?

Which one is a correct interpretation?

Thanks in adv.

jeongwoo


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Re: PIX and OSPF

[Lorenzo Montezemolo]

How would this work if NAT were in place?  We're thinking about doing
something similar where we have our ISP-managed router passing
default-network information from outside, through the PIX, and to the
inside.  Any thoughts?

Lorenzo



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| you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to avoid using
| multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf passtrough.
|
|
|
| > -Mensaje original-
| > De: Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| > Enviado el: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM
| > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > Asunto: PIX and OSPF
| >
| > Greetings,
| >
| > I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning OSPF.  I'll
be
| > installing a PIX between 2 7XXX router:
| >
| > Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2
| > OSPF   OSPF
| >
| >
| > Do I've to do anything special on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any help is great.
| >
| >
| > thanks,
| >
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Re: Router Bootup Problem

[John Kaberna]

If its new or under warranty call Cisco and get an RMA.  Otherwise you'll
have to buy a new one and xmodem an image on to it.

John

- Original Message -
From: Peter Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:59 PM
Subject: Router Bootup Problem


> I have got a corrupt flash on my router. It goes to ROMMON after starting.
> IP doesn't start and it goes to same mood even if I change config-reg to
> 0x2101 . Its a 2600. See the startup message.
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
> C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>
> device does not contain a valid magic number
> boot: cannot open "flash:"
> boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
> C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>
> device does not contain a valid magic number
> boot: cannot open "flash:"
> boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
> C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory
>
> rommon 1 >
>
> Any comments!
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Re: OT - Password recovery for CDDI/FDDI Workgroup Stack?

[Watson, Rick, , OUSDC]

I have a CDDI/FDDI workgroup stack that I am trying to "get into". The
password is unknown, and am currently trying to find info on CCO, but if
anyone has some pointers it would be appreciated! Thanks..!


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Re: Just Passed Routing 2.0 --Which exam Next

[Patrick Bass]

I did switching for my cert track.  Now I'm on remote access, finally
troubleshooting.

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> Hello People,
>   I just passed my routing exam, thanks for the site, what I would like
> is to know what exam to sit next in the CCNP group
>
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Re: a stupid question but need an answer!!

[Jim Erickson]

I would say you need to set your default metric for EIGRP or it will default
to 0, which will not be redistributed (at least for _into_ EIGRP, I'm not
sure about out of EIGRP).

---JRE---



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> Why is nothing redistributed with the below config
>
>
> router eigrp 1
>  redistribute ospf 1 route-map o2e
>  passive-interface Serial0
>  network 131.10.0.0
>  network 192.168.0.0
>  no auto-summary
> !
> router ospf 1
>  redistribute eigrp 1 route-map e2o
>  network 131.10.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 0
>  network 131.10.3.1 0.0.0.0 area 1
>  network 192.168.0.201 0.0.0.0 area 0
> !
> ip classless
> !
> route-map o2e deny 10
>  match tag 2
> !
> route-map o2e permit 20
>  set tag 1
> !
> route-map e2o deny 10
>  match tag 1
> !
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RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

>last week i installed a router (7200). the full bgp table occupied 11.5 mb.
>that's all. in 128 mb you can put the bgp table of the entire galaxy...


It's really not a simple answer, if, as most providers would, you 
have multiple views of the global routing table.

At the RIPE (European IP network) meeting last week, Phil Smith of 
Cisco presented some new growth statistics on the global routing 
table.  While the introduction of CIDR some years back flattened the 
growth curve, we are back to exponential growth.  Figure 100 K routes 
by December.

>
>  > -Mensaje original-
>  > De:Guyler, Rik [EESUS] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  > Enviado el:Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:06 PM
>  > Para:  John Kaberna; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
>  > Asunto:RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
>  >
>  > I don't know the nuances involved, but he stated that the Internet routing
>  > table a year ago was over 70,000 routes and is probably closer to 90,000
>  > routes right now.  Maybe you did not see the complete table when you saw
>  > 20MB?  I don't know...  Like I said, however, he is a 3xxx CCIE and a
>  > Cisco SE, so I find it hard to refute his word.  Not that I'm saying you
>  > are wrong, just that I find him to be extremely credible.
>  >
>  > Rik
>  >
>  >-Original Message-
>  >From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 4:16 PM
>  >To: Guyler, Rik [EESUS]; Jeff Wang; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
>  >Subject: Re: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
>  >
>  >
>  >The BGP routing table itself takes up less than 20MB of memory last
>  > time I checked (only a couple months ago).  I don't have access to a
>  > router running full BGP routes right this moment but someone should verify
>  > this.  I am fairly certain it is less than 20.  So, you can run it just
>  > fine on a 3640 with 128mb.  I completely disagree with this "experienced"
>  > CCIE.  However, his routers may have several other services running on
>  > them that use a lot of memory.  A 3640 with 128mb used simply as an
>  > Internet router running BGP will have no trouble now or in the near
>  > future.  Does anyone have a 3640 w/BGP that could provide some current
>  > stats?
>  >
>  >John
>  >
>  >- Original Message -
>  >From: Guyler, Rik [EESUS] 
>  >To: Jeff Wang  ; Cisco
>  > Groupstudy (E-mail) 
>  >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:13 AM
>  >Subject: RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
>  >
>  >A CCIE, experienced in the service provider market, just
>  > recently told me that a 3640 *might* be OK at first, but it would really
>  > be a strain to keep the entire routing table.  His reasoning is that 128MB
>  > RAM barely covers the requirements and will allow no room for growth.  He
>  > went on to say that if you can, use 256MB, 512MB, etc. as new routes that
>  > are added in the future will drive your memory requirements beyond 128MB.
>  >
>  >Rik Guyler
>  >
>  >-Original Message-
>  >From: Jeff Wang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:18 AM
>  >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >Subject: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP
>  > routing?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >Hi all,
>  >
>  >Just a quick question regarding 3640 with 128MB
>  > DRAM.  Will it be grunty enough to run full-BGP, talking to two different
>  > providers and getting full routes, with one E1 2Mbps WAN link to each
>  > provider?  What's your minimum configuration from experience?
>  >
>  >TIA,
>  >
>  >Jeff Wang

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Re: CCIE Questions...

[John Kaberna]

You people spend way too much time snitching.  I bet a lot of you got beat
up and teased frequently in high school.  Let Cisco worry about its NDA.  It
doesn't need a bunch of dorky Boy Scouts (and Girls Scouts of course) doing
its job for them.  Geez people some of you need to get a life.

John

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what I have to say.

- Original Message -
From: Lori S Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bradley J. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...


> Go to the site www.brobeck.com. They represent Cisco and other "big names"
in stuff like this. Send an email to Michelle Falkoff. She's one of the
lawyers who represent Cisco.
> Lori
> --
>
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:22:14
>  Bradley J. Wilson wrote:
> >I looked up the original poster's website...in his "Technical
> >Certifications" section he's got "CCIE *pursuing*" [emphasis mine].
Heck,
> >if I put down every cert I'm "pursuing," my rezzy would be 10 pages
long...
> >
> >Anyway, who wants to be the Thought Police on this one?  I'm assuming
> >there's someone from Cisco who's responsible for monitoring Cisco-related
> >newsgroups and mail lists for NDA breaks, but then again maybe not - what
a
> >job from hell that would be.
> >
> >Thanks for the study break. ;-)
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Louie Belt
> >To: 'FRS' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:00 PM
> >Subject: RE: CCIE Questions...
> >
> >
> >If these questions are in fact from 350-001 then the original poster
needs
> >to be turned in to Cisco so that they can "re-evaluate" his status.
> >
> >
> >LAB
> >
> >Who is John Galt?
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >FRS
> >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:32 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: CCIE Questions...
> >
> >
> >These questions are from Exam 350-001. The NDA has been broken.
> >
> >""Derek Chung"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q2d0a$8kk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Question 1:
> >> Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to each other over a
> >serial
> >> line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is connected to Router
B.
> >A
> >> packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the serial line causes
an
> >> error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> >>
> >> Question 2:
> >> During the middle of a TCP conversion across a routed backbone, the
> >network
> >> receives a voltage spike and several of the packets are damaged. Where
are
> >> the packets retransmitted from?
> >>
> >> Question 3:
> >> Computer1 [Segment
> >>
>
>A]---RouterA--RouterB--[SegmentB]--Comp
u
> >> ter2
> >> A packet is sent to Computer 2 from Computer 1. A collision occurs on
> >> Segment B. Which device will retransmit the frame and what will the
source
> >> MAC address be (when the packet actually reaches Segment B)?
> >>
> >> Question 4:
> >> When computer A sends a frame to computer B across many routers, how
will
> >> the source and destination layer 3 addresses change? How will the
source
> >and
> >> destination layer 2 addresses change?
> >>
> >>
> >
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Security using Cisco technologies

[Deloso, Elmer G.]

Title: Security using Cisco technologies





Hi, all.
I need some info on how different Cisco technologies fare in real-world scenarios in implementing
security for the network. For instance, I always come across this advice that access-lists should not be
used as a replacement for other security products. Has anyone used Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding?
What about TCP SYN intercept? Do you use the same existing access-list when you add this command
to the running config? Will this substantially impact throughput, say on a T1 line? Anyone used
Committed Access Rate feature?
I'm considering building my own intrusion detection system with a Linux box hooked up to the main
segment by way of a Fiber Optic tap, say between the Router and the internal-private-ip-assigned
Catalyst. I'm already using SessionWall, but I feel it's not adequate to ward off those pesky
DDOS attacks. Anyone with comments on securing a network tight? Thanks in advance.
BTW - I'm still researching all the info on security in CCO.


Elmer Deloso

Re: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?

[John Kaberna]

So your saying these 2 7513's are identical except one runs BGP and the
other doesnt?  I doubt that.  You cannot compare 2 routers and then deduct
the memory usage from the one that is not using BGP and say that is what BGP
is using.  You need to do a show ip bgp summary.

John


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From: Spolidoro, Guilherme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?


> We use Ciscos 7513 with IOS 12.05T1 and 128Mb.
>
> Today full routing means about 80K bgp entries and it uses (including IOS,
> etc) 80Mb from the 128Mb. I was comparing this with another router that
does
> not receive BGP. The second one uses less than 15Mb, what means that the
BGP
> tables are about 65Mb bigger, take it or leave it.
>
> My recommendation? Buy 128Mb for the 3620 and you'll be fine. It might be
> slow when receiving the tables for the first time, but after 5-10 minutes
> everything will look normal again.
>
> Good luck.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ejay Hire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 10:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
>
>
> About two days ago, I was reading an RFC written in 1996 (RFC 1772 or
> 1773..) and it talked about how the BGP database would fit into 64 mb of
ram
>
> in 1995, and all of it would fit except for sprint in 1996, and all of it
> would fit except for sprint and ...
>
> You cannot fit the entire BGP table into 20 Mb's of RAM.  If you don't
have
> any input filters set up, then your Isp('s) or someone upstream of them is
> filtering.  (Filtering a LOT...Like 80%).
>
> You can connect to a looking glass at www.merit.edu, and see the tables.
> There is even a section you can ftp to to download the whole database.
>
>
> Original Message Follows
> From: "John Kaberna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "John Kaberna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Guyler, Rik [EESUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Jeff Wang"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:15:41 -0700
>
> Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?The BGP routing table itself
> takes up less than 20MB of memory last time I checked (only a couple
months
> ago).  I don't have access to a router running full BGP routes right this
> moment but someone should verify this.  I am fairly certain it is less
than
> 20.  So, you can run it just fine on a 3640 with 128mb.  I completely
> disagree with this "experienced" CCIE.  However, his routers may have
> several other services running on them that use a lot of memory.  A 3640
> with 128mb used simply as an Internet router running BGP will have no
> trouble now or in the near future.  Does anyone have a 3640 w/BGP that
could
>
> provide some current stats?
>
> John
>- Original Message -
>From: Guyler, Rik [EESUS]
>To: Jeff Wang ; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:13 AM
>Subject: RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
>
>
>A CCIE, experienced in the service provider market, just recently told
me
>
> that a 3640 *might* be OK at first, but it would really be a strain to
keep
> the entire routing table.  His reasoning is that 128MB RAM barely covers
the
>
> requirements and will allow no room for growth.  He went on to say that if
> you can, use 256MB, 512MB, etc. as new routes that are added in the future
> will drive your memory requirements beyond 128MB.
>
>Rik Guyler
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Jeff Wang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:18 AM
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
>
>
>  Hi all,
>
>  Just a quick question regarding 3640 with 128MB DRAM.  Will it be
> grunty enough to run full-BGP, talking to two different providers and
> getting full routes, with one E1 2Mbps WAN link to each provider?  What's
> your minimum configuration from experience?
>
>  TIA,
>
>  Jeff Wang
>
>
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Re: Report - Global Knowlege BGP class Training nightmare

[Donald B Johnson Jr]

I agree totally, that instructor should have his feet held to the fire.
I just had a bad experience at some training and I hit the roof. The course
outline was not followed and the portions I really needed were just glossed
over because of time restraints and instructor stupidity. The worst part was
that the organization giving the training had internal people in the class.
It was supposed to be a network boot camp to support a Digital TV headend
which included the OSI, TCP/IP, Cisco routers, Unix Administration, and ATM,
all of which are used to support a Digital headend. Of course these recent
collage grads just hired by this organization had no clue so we spent three
days going over the OSI and IP addressing AGAIN A. Best
part the instructor was dead wrong about some major things but was unwilling
to budge when reasoned with. He said that physical addressing does not
happen at the Data-link layer and then used Frame as an example but then
said the data-link handled error-correction and I said not frame-relay, he
didn't get what I was trying to say. I believe on an Ethernet network
physical addressing happens at the data-link layer. I don't think he
understood the concept of the OSI. It is just a MODEL. So this is how it
went for three days, which in the course outline said was to be about 1 and
1/4 days to end at 10:30 am of the second day, not 8 am of the forth day.
Instead of showing us where the app's loaded and how to configure them for
the system and what processes are loaded and why and when they should be
stopped and where the logs were and what they mean, all good stuff for a
Unix admin supporting the DTV platform, the Unix training consisted of CD,
LS and VI again!!AHH what a moron!!!
I've seen better sales presentations of ATM than his training, unbelievable.
The best part was that I was the only outside customer there and I came with
a solid data background, the internal people, it was the first time through
and they lapped it up like puppies. Nobody talked to me during break cause
they thought I was the bad guy because I could only sit there quietly so
long before I had to call him on his huge errors. Oh another big one was
that he said that OSPF uses STP algorithm and there is a root router. I
tried to reason with him that, that would defeat the purpose of the SPF part
if all routers had to check in with a root, no all routers run their own SPF
tree with themselves as root. I think he was confused with a DR, nothing to
do with each routers path selection just a way of managing the topology
database on multiple access networks (ie. Ethernet). When I tried to explain
this I thought his head was going to pop. Enough for now Thanks for the vent
space. My company paid for this training but I view it as though it is my
money, that is why I have such a good ride here.
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Marshal Schoener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Ledwidge, Feargal' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: Report - Global Knowlege BGP class


> I'm taking a Global Knowledge course on the BCSN this Monday!
> If the instructor tries leaving early, I would NOT be as calm about it as
> you!  My course is 5 days, but I will have someone's head if ANY of them
are
> cut short :-)
> Although my company is flipping the bill for this, it is a lot of money,
and
>
> if any class is cut short, I will expect either a full refund, or another
> course...
> I think you should be complaining to someone in administration!!!
> Get your money back!  That is very unfair!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ledwidge, Feargal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 7:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Report - Global Knowlege BGP class
>
>
> I talked to a GK instructor recently regards some bad experiences with GK.
> He suggested directing specific complaints to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thats Chuck Terrien who is the VP responsible for Cisco training.
> Alternatively - you can call any GK number and do a lookup on the name and
> be tranferred to his office.
>
> Speak your mind 
>
> Feargal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Casey Fahey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 8:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Report - Global Knowlege BGP class
>
>
>
> There is an easy way to deal with the instructor leaving early issue...
Let
>
> GK know that it is NOT acceptable to cut the labs out of the class and
that
> you need to retake the class.
>
> And since you are way too busy to take another week out of work, your ol'
> buddy, ol' pal Casey will be coming in your place.  : D
>
> Have a good one,
>
> Casey
>
> >From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Cisco Mail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Report - Global Knowlege BGP class
> >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:17:13 -0700
> >
> 

Just Passed Routing 2.0 --Which exam Next

[kikpasa]

Hello People,
  I just passed my routing exam, thanks for the site, what I would like
is to know what exam to sit next in the CCNP group

Cheers
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RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?

[Spolidoro, Guilherme]

Title: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?



Some 
ISPs offer full routing in two flavors: "as is" or a "summarized" version 
(maybe that's the case). Please don't ask any additional details because that 
was long long time ago...

  -Original Message-From: Guyler, Rik [EESUS] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 
  1:06 PMTo: John Kaberna; Cisco Groupstudy 
  (E-mail)Subject: RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP 
  routing?
  I 
  don't know the nuances involved, but he stated that the Internet routing table 
  a year ago was over 70,000 routes and is probably closer to 90,000 routes 
  right now.  Maybe you did not see the complete table when you saw 
  20MB?  I don't know...  Like I said, however, he is a 3xxx CCIE and 
  a Cisco SE, so I find it hard to refute his word.  Not that I'm saying 
  you are wrong, just that I find him to be extremely 
  credible.
   
  Rik
  
-Original Message-From: John Kaberna 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 18, 
2000 4:16 PMTo: Guyler, Rik [EESUS]; Jeff Wang; Cisco Groupstudy 
(E-mail)Subject: Re: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP 
routing?
The BGP routing table itself takes up less than 
20MB of memory last time I checked (only a couple months ago).  I don't 
have access to a router running full BGP routes right this moment but 
someone should verify this.  I am fairly certain it is less than 
20.  So, you can run it just fine on a 3640 with 128mb.  I 
completely disagree with this "experienced" CCIE.  However, his routers 
may have several other services running on them that use a lot of 
memory.  A 3640 with 128mb used simply as an Internet router running 
BGP will have no trouble now or in the near future.  Does anyone have a 
3640 w/BGP that could provide some current stats?
 
John

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Guyler, 
  Rik [EESUS] 
  To: Jeff 
  Wang ; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail) 
  Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:13 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough 
  for full-BGP routing?
  
  A CCIE, experienced in the service provider 
  market, just recently told me that a 3640 *might* be OK at 
  first, but it would really be a strain to keep the 
  entire routing table.  His reasoning is that 128MB RAM barely covers 
  the requirements and will allow no room for growth.  He went on to 
  say that if you can, use 256MB, 512MB, etc. as new routes that are added 
  in the future will drive your memory requirements beyond 
  128MB.
   
  Rik Guyler
  
-Original Message-From: Jeff Wang 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 
12:18 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Cisco 
3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
Hi all, 
Just a quick question regarding 3640 
with 128MB DRAM.  Will it be grunty enough to run full-BGP, talking 
to two different providers and getting full routes, with one E1 2Mbps 
WAN link to each provider?  What's your minimum configuration from 
experience?
TIA, 
Jeff Wang 

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hi i am in dallas,

irving - texas. i am looking for a study partner. i have 4 -2500 series
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Router Bootup Problem

[Peter Gray]

I have got a corrupt flash on my router. It goes to ROMMON after starting. 
IP doesn't start and it goes to same mood even if I change config-reg to 
0x2101 . Its a 2600. See the startup message.

System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory

device does not contain a valid magic number
boot: cannot open "flash:"
boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"

System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory

device does not contain a valid magic number
boot: cannot open "flash:"
boot: cannot determine first file name on device "flash:"

System Bootstrap, Version 11.3(2)XA4, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
C2600 platform with 24576 Kbytes of main memory

rommon 1 >

Any comments!

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viso shapes

[hmalmgren]

Is there a source for Visio shapes for some of the newer cisco gear?  Either
commerical or freeware will work.  Note that I'm not asking for pirated
copies of anything, just a pointer to where I can purchase them.  Thanks!

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RE: PIX and OSPF

[Omar Baceski]

you can put an explicit neighboring between the routers to avoid using
multicast. then you need to put a coumple conduits to let ospf passtrough.



> -Mensaje original-
> De:   Nabil Fares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el:   Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:38 PM
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Asunto:   PIX and OSPF
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning OSPF.  I'll be
> installing a PIX between 2 7XXX router:
> 
> Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2
> OSPF   OSPF
> 
> 
> Do I've to do anything special on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any help is great.
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Nabil
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Re: CCIE Questions... Answer to Q3 ???

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

At 07:08 PM 9/19/00, Phil Barker wrote:
>I havn't read this thread so apologies if this has
>been done already.
>
>Computer 1 sends to Computer 2.
>
>Router B relays a valid frame to computer 2.
>Assume no other devices on Segment B for clarity,

Why should we assume that? The question doesn't assume that. Also, it's 
pretty clear that the question is about who retransmits the original frame, 
not who retransmits the frame that collided with it. The answer is 
obviously the router. This is fundamental Ethernet 101 stuff. It's so 
basic, we should move this question to the CCNA list! %-)

Priscilla

>computer 2 must be transmitting a frame on this
>segment in order for the collision to occur.
>
>Therefore router B and computer 2 do a random back-off
>
>before attempting to re-transmit. So shouldn't the
>answer to which device re-transmits be "either"
>depending on which device can respond the fastest ?
>
>i.e Router B's frame is totally independent from
>Computer 2's frame.
>
>Regards,
>
>Phil.
>
>PS : hope thats not a real CCIE question or I think
>I'll be throwing tantrums on the day ...
>
>
>
>
>--- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Where did these questions come from? Please specify
> > the source (book, etc.)
> > so that we know we aren't disobeying the NDA and
> > giving you answers from an
> > actual test. These sure sound like questions from
> > the CCIE written. Also, I
> > think it would be best to limit each e-mail message
> > to one topic. It makes
> > discussions easier to follow.
> >
> > Despite all that, I can't resist giving you my
> > answers! &;-) See below.
> >
> > At 05:18 AM 9/17/00, Derek Chung wrote:
> > >Question 1:
> > >Router A and Router B are configured to route IP to
> > each other over a serial
> > >line. Host A is connected to Router A and Host B is
> > connected to Router B. A
> > >packet is sent from Host A to host B. A hit on the
> > serial line causes an
> > >error in the packet. Retransmission is sent by:
> >
> > Host A retransmits the packet. The data-link layer
> > protocols in use today
> > on serial lines, including PPP, Frame Relay, and
> > Cisco HDLC, detect errors
> > but are not responsible for error correction or
> > retransmission.
> >
> >
> > >Question 2:
> > >During the middle of a TCP conversion across a
> > routed backbone, the network
> > >receives a voltage spike and several of the packets
> > are damaged. Where are
> > >the packets retransmitted from?
> >
> > The TCP sender. This is almost a repeat of the last
> > question.
> >
> >
> > >Question 3:
> > >Computer1 [Segment
> >
> >A]---RouterA--RouterB--[SegmentB]--Compu
> > >ter2
> > >A packet is sent to Computer 2 from Computer 1. A
> > collision occurs on
> > >Segment B. Which device will retransmit the frame
> > and what will the source
> > >MAC address be (when the packet actually reaches
> > Segment B)?
> >
> > Router B senses the collision and retransmits at the
> > MAC layer. The MAC
> > address is Router B's Ethernet address.
> >
> >
> > >Question 4:
> > >When computer A sends a frame to computer B across
> > many routers, how will
> > >the source and destination layer 3 addresses
> > change? How will the source and
> > >destination layer 2 addresses change?
> >
> > Layer 3 addresses won't change (unless you have NAT
> > or tunnelling or
> > something else bizarre.) The Layer 2 addresses
> > change each time a router
> > re-encapsulates the packet in a data-link-layer
> > header than includes
> > layer-2 addresses.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > 
> >
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RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?

[Omar Baceski]

last week i installed a router (7200). the full bgp table occupied 11.5 mb.
that's all. in 128 mb you can put the bgp table of the entire galaxy...

> -Mensaje original-
> De:   Guyler, Rik [EESUS] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el:   Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:06 PM
> Para: John Kaberna; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
> Asunto:   RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
> 
> I don't know the nuances involved, but he stated that the Internet routing
> table a year ago was over 70,000 routes and is probably closer to 90,000
> routes right now.  Maybe you did not see the complete table when you saw
> 20MB?  I don't know...  Like I said, however, he is a 3xxx CCIE and a
> Cisco SE, so I find it hard to refute his word.  Not that I'm saying you
> are wrong, just that I find him to be extremely credible.
>  
> Rik
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 4:16 PM
>   To: Guyler, Rik [EESUS]; Jeff Wang; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)
>   Subject: Re: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
>   
>   
>   The BGP routing table itself takes up less than 20MB of memory last
> time I checked (only a couple months ago).  I don't have access to a
> router running full BGP routes right this moment but someone should verify
> this.  I am fairly certain it is less than 20.  So, you can run it just
> fine on a 3640 with 128mb.  I completely disagree with this "experienced"
> CCIE.  However, his routers may have several other services running on
> them that use a lot of memory.  A 3640 with 128mb used simply as an
> Internet router running BGP will have no trouble now or in the near
> future.  Does anyone have a 3640 w/BGP that could provide some current
> stats?
>
>   John
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Guyler, Rik [EESUS]  
>   To: Jeff Wang  ; Cisco
> Groupstudy (E-mail)  
>   Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:13 AM
>   Subject: RE: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?
> 
>   A CCIE, experienced in the service provider market, just
> recently told me that a 3640 *might* be OK at first, but it would really
> be a strain to keep the entire routing table.  His reasoning is that 128MB
> RAM barely covers the requirements and will allow no room for growth.  He
> went on to say that if you can, use 256MB, 512MB, etc. as new routes that
> are added in the future will drive your memory requirements beyond 128MB.
>
>   Rik Guyler
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: Jeff Wang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:18 AM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP
> routing?
>   
>   
> 
>   Hi all, 
> 
>   Just a quick question regarding 3640 with 128MB
> DRAM.  Will it be grunty enough to run full-BGP, talking to two different
> providers and getting full routes, with one E1 2Mbps WAN link to each
> provider?  What's your minimum configuration from experience?
> 
>   TIA, 
> 
>   Jeff Wang 
> 

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Purchase of Cisco Routers/Switches for CCIE Lab

[Abruzzese, John]

I'm trying to build my own small CCIE lab at home and just want to start
with maybe 4 or 5 routers. Can anyone recommend where I could possibly get
some routers and possibly switches at a reasonable price? Appreciate any
input.


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Re: PIX and OSPF

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

>Greetings,
>
>I'm testing PIX515 and I've couple of questions concerning OSPF.  I'll be
>installing a PIX between 2 7XXX router:
>
>Router-C1>--PIX515-->Router-C2
>OSPF   OSPF
>
>
>Do I've to do anything special on PIX to pass OSPF?  Any help is great.

Coming back to the classical question, what problem are you trying to 
solve?  I've rarely, if ever, seen a security architecture in which 
it was good to pass IGP information from inside to outside of a 
firewall.

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Re: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?

[Ed]

Title: Cisco 3640 grunty enough for full-BGP routing?



I'll repost.  This is the memory and BGP 
summary from a router with the full route table.
The route table takes up less than 20 MB's.  
The BGP router session is @ 39MB.
I'm not sure as to whether or not the table is 
included in the session size I would
think it is...

 
#sho ip bgp sumBGP router identifier 
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, local AS number xBGP table version is 40912247, main 
routing table version 4091224787050 network entries and 87129 paths using 
11580494 bytes of memory26531 BGP path attribute entries using 1380600 bytes 
of memory11347 BGP AS-PATH entries using 286472 bytes of memory0 BGP 
route-map cache entries using 0 bytes of memory50 BGP filter-list cache 
entries using 600 bytes of memoryDampening enabled. 134 history paths, 139 
dampened pathsBGP activity 4499686/10692951 prefixes, 14624309/14537180 
paths
 
#sho proc memTotal: 111299776, Used: 70286204, 
Free: 41013572 PID TTY  Allocated  
Freed    Holding    Getbufs    
Retbufs Process   2   0   
16086660  25628  
75188  
0  0 CEF process  
11   0 4040045016 4040012060  
33632  
0  0 IPC Seat 
Manager  20   0    1155320    
1086196  
13300  
0  0 Net 
Background  38   0  115055424    
1376452  16000  
54540  0 IP Input  
39   0  624368532  624367544  
13848  
0  0 IP SNMP  
56   0  915859704   
4592  
14420  
0  0 TCP 
Protocols  75   0  153157040    
5489060  63376  147585240  148562508 
Per-minute Jobs  76   0    
6916776  
0   
6796  
0  0 TCP Listener  
79   0 3914308612 1073548112   
60835916  
0  0 BGP Router  
80   0 662192 
1005935144   
6796  
0  0 BGP I/O  
81   0  21932  
228366956  
27960  
0  0 BGP 
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  ""Jeff Wang"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
  message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Hi all, 
  Just a quick question regarding 3640 with 
  128MB DRAM.  Will it be grunty enough to run full-BGP, talking to two 
  different providers and getting full routes, with one E1 2Mbps WAN link to 
  each provider?  What's your minimum configuration from 
  experience?
  TIA, 
  Jeff Wang