Re: erased flash

2001-03-23 Thread Anthony Awatefe

Hi

Basically you have erased your main Cisco IOS, and you router is in Rom
Monitor mode (its alive but not as we know it!!)  if you type the '?' key
you'll get a list of processor specific commands  that will help you get the
router booted properly...

There is the default IOS that resides in the ROM that you should be able to
invoke this IOS is normally an early version and may not have all the
feature set you require... but its a start...


Good Luck
Anthony Awatefe
CCNA CCNP
- Original Message -
From: "Ganesh Chintalapati" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 6:05 AM
Subject: erased flash


>
> Dear group,
>
> I recently was configuring ISDN on 1750 router.  But accidently I have gi=
> ven
> #erase flash command from the prompt.  And once I rebooted the router I g=
> ot
> the message "not able to find some number" and "not able to locate file f=
> lash"
> and I am getting rommon 1> prompt.  Pls let me know how do I restore my r=
> outer
> to its normal working condition.
>
> This is very urgent, I would be most thankful if someone gives me the sol=
> ution
> at the earliest.
>
> Bye group,
>
> Ganesh.Ch
>
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client unable to browse but able to ping

2001-03-23 Thread Indy

Hi all,

I am figuring ISDN dialout using cisco 805. I am able to ping IP and DNS
from client side, but can't browse by using either explorer or netscape
browser. The script workin well on modem analog but not ISDN.  Any idea?.

Andri


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RE: Cisco support for VRRP any platform ?

2001-03-23 Thread Sumeet Gohri

Thanks Kevin...in fact Henry Rollins sent following link which I found very
informative regarding port tracking feature of HSRP. Thanks for the help

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/6.html


Sumeet

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Subject: Re: Cisco support for VRRP any platform ?


Sumeet,

It all depends on what you mean by "fancy" tracking features.

Cisco HSRP can indeed track interfaces.  I have configured that many times.

Kevin Wigle

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> Well I have worked on number of products from different vendors supporting
> VRRP and I have worked with HSRP also. I feel that both have strengths and
> weaknesses however I think VRRP and its variations are slightly more
mature
> as it allows some fancy port tracking features. I might be wrong but I
don't
> HSRP has such features. Please if someone has more detailed info on the
> subject...please enlighten us.
>
> Sumeet
>
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> Subject: RE: Cisco support for VRRP any platform ?
>
>
> > Does anyone know if any IOS version supports VRRP on any of
> > the standard platforms?
>
> > Not yet.  We are working on a VRRP implementation though.
>
> I think you meant to write 'Not yet on the routers'. I'm sure
> some of the boxes you've bought recently  (such as the CSS /
> ArrowPoint switches) does support VRRP.
>
> > HSRP offers much more functionality than VRRP, but of course
> > it is limited to usage with other Cisco devices.
>
> Actually, since HSRP is documented in RFC2281, other companies
> could have implemented it if they wanted to. I guess they don't
> feel VRRP lacking in functionality, since they haven't.
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erased flash

2001-03-23 Thread Ganesh Chintalapati


Dear group,

I recently was configuring ISDN on 1750 router.  But accidently I have gi=
ven
#erase flash command from the prompt.  And once I rebooted the router I g=
ot
the message "not able to find some number" and "not able to locate file f=
lash"
and I am getting rommon 1> prompt.  Pls let me know how do I restore my r=
outer
to its normal working condition.

This is very urgent, I would be most thankful if someone gives me the sol=
ution
at the earliest.

Bye group,

Ganesh.Ch

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Re: Performance Comparision between Linux OS Firewall and CiscoPIX 525

2001-03-23 Thread Brian

In the enterprise scenario, I would go so far as to say that 1 device is
not enough, and that each device is part of an overall security
policy.  Perhaps access list/firewall protection, and a user/pass
authorization, and nat for the more secure info.

Brian

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Moe Tavakoli wrote:

> It was assumed that the question was a result of an
> implementation in an enterpise system.  Of course in a
> school or a small comapny where uptime does not = $
> there is no issue, use Linux, use MS Proxy for all
> that matters.  But in an enterprise where uptime is
> Essentail, there is money at stake and information has
> lots of value, I would sleep easier at night knowing
> that I have an enterprise level platform with a solid
> proven track record, backed by a company who is
> focused on producing and supporting systems to enable
> me to focus on doing what I'm good at...
>
> Moe.
>
> --- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How about if the customer is strapped for money. I
> > work at a school.
> > Luckily our students haven't gotten sophisticated
> > enough to break into the
> > Linux firewall but I don't the think that day is too
> > far away. Some of them
> > are very smart and they are learning Linux and
> > networking in their classes.
> > But PIX is too expensive, I think??
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 09:24 AM 3/23/01, Rik wrote:
> > >I have seen way too many Linux firewalls hacked as
> > a result of
> > >mis-administration.  Now, I'm not assuming anything
> > about your abilities as
> > >the last confirmed hack that I was notified about
> > was a Linux FW setup by 2
> > >guys that I know to be excellent Linux admins.  The
> > problem is the inherent
> > >nature of the beast.  A PIX is totally secure right
> > out of the box.  The
> > >last Linux hack I speak of was hacked based on an
> > exploit within BIND and
> > >had nothing to do with the FW policy.
> > >
> > >I also find the PIX to be MUCH easier to configure
> > and setup.  I can do in
> > >only a few lines of code what could possibly take
> > pages and pages of code in
> > >Linux.  When talking about firewalls, simplicity is
> > a critically important
> > >concern.  One compromise could easily remove any
> > upfront cost advantage
> > >Linux has over Cisco.  Also, you don't have to be
> > concerned with shutting
> > >down unused services on a PIX as you would on
> > Linux.
> > >
> > >Go with the PIX.  It was designed from the ground
> > up to do just what it
> > >does: protect your network.  Cisco claims that a
> > properly configured PIX has
> > >never been compromised.  I believe them.
> > >
> > >Rik
> > >
> > >
> > >""Sean Young"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > message
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > My company is putting me in charge in
> > implementing a Firewall for our
> > > > company.  One guy in my networking group is
> > recommending PIX Firewall.
> > > > Furthermore, he also recommends a Cisco
> > Web-caching engine.  His reason
> > > > is that not only Cisco is good Firewall but it
> > also provides VPN
> > > > connectivity to our remote sites.  Myself, on
> > the other hand, would
> > > > like to implement Linux-based OS firewall along
> > with FreeS/WAN VPN
> > > > features set.  My reason is that a linux
> > firewall can provide everything
> > > > a Cisco PIX does and even more.  In term of
> > hardware, the linux Firewall/
> > > > VPN/IPSec box will be running a dual-processor
> > (800MHz) with 1GB of RAM.
> > > > I just feel that I can get a lot more for the
> > amount that we are going
> > > > to spend with linux than with Cisco PIX.  I also
> > feel that I tweak the
> > > > source code on the LINUX kernel to increase the
> > performance and security.
> > > > Also, instead of purchasing the Cisco
> > web-caching engine, I am thinking
> > > > of building another linux box that will be
> > running squid (web-caching)
> > > > server.  Don't get me wrong, I think Cisco has a
> > lot of good products
> > > > in the area of routing; however, I just don't
> > think it is necessary to
> > > > throw away money at Cisco when I know that Linux
> > or BSD can do the same
> > > > job that PIX and Cisco web-caching engine do but
> > for much less and also
> > > > I can control the source code.  Has anyone has
> > experiences with both
> > > > the Linux/BSD, Squid and Cisco PIX, Cisco
> > web-caching engine so that
> > > > you can give advice on what I should do.  I am
> > open to your suggestions.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks.
> > > > Sean
> > > >
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Re: Autonomous Systems

2001-03-23 Thread Brian

Why would you want to, I mean if you're connected to 2 ases, isn't the
point that from any prospective source, the best path to you should be
taken?

Bri

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Circusnuts wrote:

> I don't believe you can successfully load balance too two separate AS's
> (ISP's), from a single AS (say your domain).  BGP does not work that'a way.
> You'd have to have separate gateway AS's coming from the two ISP's & have
> IBGP make the decisions within the domain (bellow the two gateways).
>
> Does this make sense ???  Am I on target :-)
>
> Phil
>
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> Subject: RE: Autonomous Systems
>
>
> > over time, a planned migration would likely be advantageous, from a
> > management perspective.
> >
> > Bri
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alassar, Sonia wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, I am speaking about routing on the internet with BGP-4. If I am a
> > > carrier that has 1 AS and I purchase another network (that has multiple
> > > ASes) from another carrier, should I integrate them into a single AS, or
> > > keep them as multiple AS? It is not that I want to have multiple AS,
> > > however, I will have them via the acquisition. The question is should I
> keep
> > > them separate, or migrate them into one. What added benefit do I get if
> I
> > > have one? A second question is if 1 AS is so great, why do Sprint,
> WorldCom,
> > > AT&T,  and Genuity all have multiple AS?
> > >
> > > Sonia
> > >
> > >
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Re: multilink PPP

2001-03-23 Thread Brian

You could do this with a computer with 2 modems, or netopia makes a dual
56k router that is a little pricey but nice.

Bri

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Alec Smiths wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My customer wants to make multilink PPP to SP using 2
> analog dial-up lines. What sort of CPE device does he
> need ? And do you have any idea about the prices ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Alec
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Re: What's the benefits of using cluster between CAT3500 switches?

2001-03-23 Thread Joe Johonness

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/smbiz/multimedia/download.html

Check out this link.
JJ

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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Mick Vollmer

I had this problem and moved the ip ospf demand-circuit statement to the
other router and the problem went away.  I was using 11.2 code on one end
and 12.something on the other.

Mick


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Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines for efficiency.
>
> Leah
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jay Chandradas
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
> To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
>
>
> I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
> permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
> debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.
>
> my 0.02
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay Chandradas"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Bob Boone
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> > To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
> > restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
> > statement and then explisit deny all.
> > still not working.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > > 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
> > >
> > > 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
> the
> > > IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > when u r redistributing into
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> > > Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > > > flapping.
> > > > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > > > thing
> > > > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > > > here's the key configs:
> > > > > interface BRI0/0
> > > > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > > > >  encapsulation ppp
> > > > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > > > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > > > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > > > >  dialer-group 1
> > > > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > > > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > > > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > > > >  ppp authentication chap
> > > > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > > > >  ppp multilink
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > router ospf 1
> > > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > > > >  area 0 authentication message-digest
> > > > >  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
> > > > >  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
> > > > >  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> > > > > stuff
> > > > >  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
> > > > >  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
> > > > >  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
> > > > >  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
> > > > >  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
> > > > >  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > > > > access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> > > > > route-map stuff deny 5
> > > > >  match ip address 15
> > > > > !
> > > > > route-map stuff permit 10
> > > > >  set tag 4
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Re: What's the benefits of using cluster between CAT3500 switches?

2001-03-23 Thread gregkane

Cost - I know that in a few sites that I have where I usually use 6500s (for
floors with 200+ clients per closet), I can get away with a stack of 2 or 3
3500s (for 100 or so clients) if the lack of  backplane capacity is not an
issue. This way I still have the gig uplinks and I'm delivering the access
switching at a significant reduction over the 6500s.


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99h10e$4vv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99h10e$4vv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi All - I know that it's possible to create cluster for a stack of CAT
3500
> switch.  This way, one can use only one IP address for the whole stack.
> Beside this benefit, what else can I gain from creating the cluster?
> redundancy?  Thanks All!
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RE: CCIE written pass score

2001-03-23 Thread SAM Meng Wai

Just taken my wriitten paper last month. Passing score is 700/1000.

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RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Ya Wen

Try remove the "log" from the access-list 15 associated with the route-map
stuff. Also, you do not need the summary-address under OSPF.

-Ya

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Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Also check the BRI interface and see if you see IPCDP, it should disapper
when you no cdp en!

Patrick

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Bob Boone'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines for efficiency.
>
> Leah
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jay Chandradas
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
> To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
>
>
> I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
> permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
> debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.
>
> my 0.02
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay Chandradas"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Bob Boone
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> > To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
> > restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
> > statement and then explisit deny all.
> > still not working.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > > 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
> > >
> > > 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
> the
> > > IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > when u r redistributing into
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> > > Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > > > flapping.
> > > > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > > > thing
> > > > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > > > here's the key configs:
> > > > > interface BRI0/0
> > > > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > > > >  encapsulation ppp
> > > > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > > > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > > > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > > > >  dialer-group 1
> > > > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > > > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > > > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > > > >  ppp authentication chap
> > > > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > > > >  ppp multilink
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > router ospf 1
> > > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > > > >  area 0 authentication message-digest
> > > > >  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
> > > > >  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
> > > > >  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> > > > > stuff
> > > > >  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
> > > > >  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
> > > > >  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
> > > > >  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
> > > > >  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
> > > > >  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > > > > access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> > > > > route-map stuff deny 5
> > > > >  match ip address 15
> > > > > !
> > > > > route-map stuff permit 10
> > > > >  set tag 4
> > > > >
> >

What's the benefits of using cluster between CAT3500 switches?

2001-03-23 Thread Thomas

Hi All - I know that it's possible to create cluster for a stack of CAT 3500
switch.  This way, one can use only one IP address for the whole stack.
Beside this benefit, what else can I gain from creating the cluster?
redundancy?  Thanks All!


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"Routing on a stick" with 3Com Switch?

2001-03-23 Thread Thomas

Hi All - I wonder if it is possible to implement the "Routing on a stick"
method using Cisco 3620 router (with 1 fast ethernet port) and the 3Com
CoreBuilder 5000 switch?  Thanks in advance!!!


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Re: trunking

2001-03-23 Thread Thomas

Hi All - My question relates to the trunking topic so I hope you would help.

If I have a Cisco 3620 with 1 fast ethernet port, can I implement "routing
on a stick" method with my 3Com CoreBuilder 5000 Switch?  I assume I have to
use "do1q" enscapsulation.  If possible, how should I do it?  Thanks in
advance!

Thomas


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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Patrick Murphy

Also check the BRI interface and see if you see IPCDP, it should disapper
when you no cdp en!

Patrick

- Original Message -
From: "Leah Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Jay Chandradas'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris Larson'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Bob Boone'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines for efficiency.
>
> Leah
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jay Chandradas
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:57 PM
> To: Chris Larson; Bob Boone; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
>
>
> I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
> permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
> debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.
>
> my 0.02
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay Chandradas"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
> Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Bob Boone
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> > To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
> > restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
> > statement and then explisit deny all.
> > still not working.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > > 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
> > >
> > > 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
> the
> > > IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > when u r redistributing into
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> > > Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > > > flapping.
> > > > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > > > thing
> > > > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > > > here's the key configs:
> > > > > interface BRI0/0
> > > > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > > > >  encapsulation ppp
> > > > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > > > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > > > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > > > >  dialer-group 1
> > > > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > > > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > > > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > > > >  ppp authentication chap
> > > > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > > > >  ppp multilink
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > router ospf 1
> > > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > > > >  area 0 authentication message-digest
> > > > >  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
> > > > >  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
> > > > >  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> > > > > stuff
> > > > >  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
> > > > >  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
> > > > >  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
> > > > >  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
> > > > >  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
> > > > >  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > > > > access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> > > > > route-map stuff deny 5
> > > > >  match ip address 15
> > > > > !
> > > > > route-map stuff permit 10
> > > > >  set tag 4
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Re: 2610 Serial Interface Puzzler

2001-03-23 Thread Kevin Wigle

this link says it - NO!

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/mxne__p1.htm

We had a similar discussion not long ago about FE modules and  2600s and it
was interesting because there were people that said they had it working but
then Cisco didn't "support" it in any of their literature.

Might be the same here.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "John Neiberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, 23 March, 2001 18:05
Subject: RE: 2610 Serial Interface Puzzler


> Hmmm, you appear to be correct.  I'm looking through the quick reference
> guide and I don't see the NM-1E2W as an option on the 2600 series.  That
> might be a problem. I wonder if it's actually working.
>
> >>> "Jim Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 3:53:34 PM >>>
> I don't think that module is even supported in the 2600's. Someone
> correct
> me if I'm wrong, but can't you only use the NM-1E or NM-2W, not a
> NM-1E2W in
> the 2600's
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 2610 Serial Interface Puzzler
>
>
> Those modules are numbered from right to left, but only includes
> installed modules, I believe.  If you had two installed, they would
> be--from left to right--1/1 and 1/0.
>
> >>> "Gareth Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 2:50:43 PM
> >>>
> Hi All,
>
> Can anybody please explain the following:
>
> I've been messing with a 2600 with an NM1E2W running 12.1(5)T
> I put a WIC1T in to slot W0, so this understandably became Serial 1/0.
> Powered down, removed WIC1T and restarted then WR MEM so any config
> for
> S1/0
> is gone.
> Powered down. Inserted WIC1T into slot W1.
> This also came up as S1/0 as opposed to what I would have expected
> (S1/1).
> I had successful connections on S1/0 while WIC1T was in either slot.
>
> I'd be interested to see what happens with two WIC1T's in but had to
> get the
> router on line before I could get hold of another WIC1T.
>
> Anyone know the reason for this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gareth
>
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Re: Cisco support for VRRP any platform ?

2001-03-23 Thread Erick B.

VRRP has Critical IP feature which is similar but I
think HSRPs interface tracking gives you more
flexibility in your config/design.

Additionally, ESRP (Extremes version) keeps track of #
of active ports on a device in a VLAN and can watch
the routing table to adjust whos active, priority,
etc. HSRP or VRRP does neither so I guess it depends
on what you need and how much control you want on what
box has the Shared Virtual IP addresses active. 

--- Clayton Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can track interfaces with HSRP
> 
> ""Sumeet Gohri"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
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> > Well I have worked on number of products from
> different vendors supporting
> > VRRP and I have worked with HSRP also. I feel that
> both have strengths and
> > weaknesses however I think VRRP and its variations
> are slightly more
> mature
> > as it allows some fancy port tracking features. I
> might be wrong but I
> don't
> > HSRP has such features. Please if someone has more
> detailed info on the
> > subject...please enlighten us.
> >
> > Sumeet
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >
> > > Does anyone know if any IOS version supports
> VRRP on any of
> > > the standard platforms?
> >
> > > Not yet.  We are working on a VRRP
> implementation though.
> >
> > I think you meant to write 'Not yet on the
> routers'. I'm sure
> > some of the boxes you've bought recently  (such as
> the CSS /
> > ArrowPoint switches) does support VRRP.
> >
> > > HSRP offers much more functionality than VRRP,
> but of course
> > > it is limited to usage with other Cisco devices.
> >
> > Actually, since HSRP is documented in RFC2281,
> other companies
> > could have implemented it if they wanted to. I
> guess they don't
> > feel VRRP lacking in functionality, since they
> haven't.
> >
> > -A
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Re: IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC NETWORK (INSIDE LOCAL NETWORK)(INSIDE GLOBAL NETWORK) SUBMASK????

2001-03-23 Thread John Neiberger

Okay, I've searched every nook and cranny I could think of and could
find no mention of the existence of the "network" keyword in that
command.  Weird.  You'd think it would be mentioned at least once
somewhere!   Or maybe *I* should learn to search CCO better.  

I even looked through the Open Forum Q&A lists and didn't see anything
there.  That's a tough one.  Maybe you should post that question on that
forum and see if someone answers.  That's assuming they even get to
those questions this year.  They seem to be pretty slow about answering
those.

Good luck,
John the Still Slightly Embarrassed

>>> "John Neiberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 4:14:32 PM
>>>
See what happens when my smart a** side gets the best of me??  This
always happens!

Hmm...  I'll send myself into a corner with the Doc CD to research
that
one.  For some reason it's ringing a bell, but that's probably only
because the "static" form of the command is familiar.   I'll let you
know if I discover anything.

Thanks,
John the Gently Reprimanded

>>> "Michael Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 3:57:00 PM >>>
Might want to backup there John,  Even try it on your router, IP NAT
INSIDE
SOURCE STATIC "NETWORK" is a real command, but it's not on the master
index.
IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC A.B.C.D is.

Try again.



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> If I were you I'd learn to use the documentation CD better before
you
> attempt the lab!  
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121mindx/ind


ex.htm
>
>
> I'm teasing, but I'm serious.  I haven't taken it but I've heard
that
> the ability to quickly find information such as this will save your
hide
> during the lab exam.  When you're pressed for time that irritating
> search feature is even more useless than it usually is.
>
> HTH,
> John
>
> p.s.  Sorry if I came across as a smart a**.  That's not
intentional,
> it's just my nature.  ;-)
>
> >>> "Michael Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 2:53:44 PM >>>
> Anyone know what 'IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC NETWORK (INSIDE LOCAL
> NETWORK)
> (INSIDE GLOBAL NETWORK) SUBMASk' does?
>
> There's no documentation on CCO to how to use it.
>
> I was trying to map a 8.0.0.0/8 network (one to one, both
directions)
> to a
> 9.0.0.0/8 network via Nat.
>
>
> For example, ping 9.0.0.1 and 8.0.0.1 replies.
>
> Any idea on a easy way to do this?  I tried the ip nat pool match
host,
> but
> the mappings seem to only to be active one way.
>
> Any sample configs will  appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Performance Comparision between Linux OS Firewall and Cisco PIX 525

2001-03-23 Thread Moe Tavakoli

It was assumed that the question was a result of an
implementation in an enterpise system.  Of course in a
school or a small comapny where uptime does not = $
there is no issue, use Linux, use MS Proxy for all
that matters.  But in an enterprise where uptime is
Essentail, there is money at stake and information has
lots of value, I would sleep easier at night knowing
that I have an enterprise level platform with a solid
proven track record, backed by a company who is
focused on producing and supporting systems to enable
me to focus on doing what I'm good at...

Moe.

--- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about if the customer is strapped for money. I
> work at a school. 
> Luckily our students haven't gotten sophisticated
> enough to break into the 
> Linux firewall but I don't the think that day is too
> far away. Some of them 
> are very smart and they are learning Linux and
> networking in their classes. 
> But PIX is too expensive, I think??
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> At 09:24 AM 3/23/01, Rik wrote:
> >I have seen way too many Linux firewalls hacked as
> a result of
> >mis-administration.  Now, I'm not assuming anything
> about your abilities as
> >the last confirmed hack that I was notified about
> was a Linux FW setup by 2
> >guys that I know to be excellent Linux admins.  The
> problem is the inherent
> >nature of the beast.  A PIX is totally secure right
> out of the box.  The
> >last Linux hack I speak of was hacked based on an
> exploit within BIND and
> >had nothing to do with the FW policy.
> >
> >I also find the PIX to be MUCH easier to configure
> and setup.  I can do in
> >only a few lines of code what could possibly take
> pages and pages of code in
> >Linux.  When talking about firewalls, simplicity is
> a critically important
> >concern.  One compromise could easily remove any
> upfront cost advantage
> >Linux has over Cisco.  Also, you don't have to be
> concerned with shutting
> >down unused services on a PIX as you would on
> Linux.
> >
> >Go with the PIX.  It was designed from the ground
> up to do just what it
> >does: protect your network.  Cisco claims that a
> properly configured PIX has
> >never been compromised.  I believe them.
> >
> >Rik
> >
> >
> >""Sean Young"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
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> > > Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > > My company is putting me in charge in
> implementing a Firewall for our
> > > company.  One guy in my networking group is
> recommending PIX Firewall.
> > > Furthermore, he also recommends a Cisco
> Web-caching engine.  His reason
> > > is that not only Cisco is good Firewall but it
> also provides VPN
> > > connectivity to our remote sites.  Myself, on
> the other hand, would
> > > like to implement Linux-based OS firewall along
> with FreeS/WAN VPN
> > > features set.  My reason is that a linux
> firewall can provide everything
> > > a Cisco PIX does and even more.  In term of
> hardware, the linux Firewall/
> > > VPN/IPSec box will be running a dual-processor
> (800MHz) with 1GB of RAM.
> > > I just feel that I can get a lot more for the
> amount that we are going
> > > to spend with linux than with Cisco PIX.  I also
> feel that I tweak the
> > > source code on the LINUX kernel to increase the
> performance and security.
> > > Also, instead of purchasing the Cisco
> web-caching engine, I am thinking
> > > of building another linux box that will be
> running squid (web-caching)
> > > server.  Don't get me wrong, I think Cisco has a
> lot of good products
> > > in the area of routing; however, I just don't
> think it is necessary to
> > > throw away money at Cisco when I know that Linux
> or BSD can do the same
> > > job that PIX and Cisco web-caching engine do but
> for much less and also
> > > I can control the source code.  Has anyone has
> experiences with both
> > > the Linux/BSD, Squid and Cisco PIX, Cisco
> web-caching engine so that
> > > you can give advice on what I should do.  I am
> open to your suggestions.
> > >
> > > Many thanks.
> > > Sean
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Re: Fast-switched policy routing forwarding table entries..

2001-03-23 Thread David Kurnik

Curtis,

For fast switching a hash table is stored in the cache that consists of the
hashed network destination and the next hop MAC header.  CEF is a great
improvement over fast switching but even that caches only the destination,
and not the source.  For source destination cache your have to go to Netflow
which is only available in the high end platforms, 72xx or better.  This is
why access lists and process switching can tank your router performance.

Check out Phill Harris'  'Router Switching Performance Characteristics'
session that he gives at Networkers--I pasted the link to the presentation
below.  It is easily one of the best sessions you can take at Networkers,
and the only place I know to get no-nonsense Cisco Architecture info
including information that Cisco will _never_ document.

http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw00/pres/2203.pdf

If you can't attend Networkers you can buy the tape of the session.


--David


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Subject: Fast-switched policy routing forwarding table entries..


> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know if source-based policy-routing entries are entered
> in the cache in the form of   or  or ?
>
> What I am trying to establish is whether a seperate route table look up is
performed for every unique source-destination pair, or whether since it is
source-base policy routed, is simply does a single route table look up
> and uses the cached entry for every packet initiated from the same source?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Curtis
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flashing 3620 Please help!

2001-03-23 Thread Justin Lofton

I'm trying to flash a 3620 but when I use the copy tftp flash command it
tells me that destination filesystem is read-only.  What the hell am I doing
wrong?

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Re: 2610 Serial Interface Puzzler

2001-03-23 Thread Gareth Hinton

John, Jim,

You're absolutely right, sorry, it was an NM2W, the ethernet was in the
chassis.
Gave me a heart attack and a few manic chuckles for a few minutes, as the
kit got shipped a few thousand miles today.

Cheers,

Gareth

""John Neiberger"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hmmm, you appear to be correct.  I'm looking through the quick reference
> guide and I don't see the NM-1E2W as an option on the 2600 series.  That
> might be a problem. I wonder if it's actually working.
>
> >>> "Jim Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 3:53:34 PM >>>
> I don't think that module is even supported in the 2600's. Someone
> correct
> me if I'm wrong, but can't you only use the NM-1E or NM-2W, not a
> NM-1E2W in
> the 2600's
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 2610 Serial Interface Puzzler
>
>
> Those modules are numbered from right to left, but only includes
> installed modules, I believe.  If you had two installed, they would
> be--from left to right--1/1 and 1/0.
>
> >>> "Gareth Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 2:50:43 PM
> >>>
> Hi All,
>
> Can anybody please explain the following:
>
> I've been messing with a 2600 with an NM1E2W running 12.1(5)T
> I put a WIC1T in to slot W0, so this understandably became Serial 1/0.
> Powered down, removed WIC1T and restarted then WR MEM so any config
> for
> S1/0
> is gone.
> Powered down. Inserted WIC1T into slot W1.
> This also came up as S1/0 as opposed to what I would have expected
> (S1/1).
> I had successful connections on S1/0 while WIC1T was in either slot.
>
> I'd be interested to see what happens with two WIC1T's in but had to
> get the
> router on line before I could get hold of another WIC1T.
>
> Anyone know the reason for this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gareth
>
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Re: IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC NETWORK (INSIDE LOCAL NETWORK)(INSIDE GLOBAL NETWORK) SUBMASK????

2001-03-23 Thread John Neiberger

See what happens when my smart a** side gets the best of me??  This
always happens!

Hmm...  I'll send myself into a corner with the Doc CD to research that
one.  For some reason it's ringing a bell, but that's probably only
because the "static" form of the command is familiar.   I'll let you
know if I discover anything.

Thanks,
John the Gently Reprimanded

>>> "Michael Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 3:57:00 PM >>>
Might want to backup there John,  Even try it on your router, IP NAT
INSIDE
SOURCE STATIC "NETWORK" is a real command, but it's not on the master
index.
IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC A.B.C.D is.

Try again.



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> If I were you I'd learn to use the documentation CD better before
you
> attempt the lab!  
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121mindx/ind

ex.htm
>
>
> I'm teasing, but I'm serious.  I haven't taken it but I've heard
that
> the ability to quickly find information such as this will save your
hide
> during the lab exam.  When you're pressed for time that irritating
> search feature is even more useless than it usually is.
>
> HTH,
> John
>
> p.s.  Sorry if I came across as a smart a**.  That's not
intentional,
> it's just my nature.  ;-)
>
> >>> "Michael Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 2:53:44 PM >>>
> Anyone know what 'IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC NETWORK (INSIDE LOCAL
> NETWORK)
> (INSIDE GLOBAL NETWORK) SUBMASk' does?
>
> There's no documentation on CCO to how to use it.
>
> I was trying to map a 8.0.0.0/8 network (one to one, both
directions)
> to a
> 9.0.0.0/8 network via Nat.
>
>
> For example, ping 9.0.0.1 and 8.0.0.1 replies.
>
> Any idea on a easy way to do this?  I tried the ip nat pool match
host,
> but
> the mappings seem to only to be active one way.
>
> Any sample configs will  appreciated.
>
>
>
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RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Leah Lynch

I think you normally disable CDP in dialup lines for efficiency.

Leah

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I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.

my 0.02

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> Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Bob Boone
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
> restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
> statement and then explisit deny all.
> still not working.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
> >
> > 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
the
> > IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > when u r redistributing into
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> > Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > > flapping.
> > > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > > thing
> > > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > > here's the key configs:
> > > > interface BRI0/0
> > > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > > >  encapsulation ppp
> > > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > > >  dialer-group 1
> > > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > > >  ppp authentication chap
> > > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > > >  ppp multilink
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > router ospf 1
> > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > > >  area 0 authentication message-digest
> > > >  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
> > > >  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
> > > >  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> > > > stuff
> > > >  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
> > > >  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
> > > >  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
> > > >  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
> > > >  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
> > > >  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > > > access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> > > > route-map stuff deny 5
> > > >  match ip address 15
> > > > !
> > > > route-map stuff permit 10
> > > >  set tag 4
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RE: print config

2001-03-23 Thread Steve Watermolen

You could also use SecureCRT from http://www.vandyke.com/

Steve

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Subject: RE: print config


If you are using Windows telnet.exe, you can log it via the terminal menu
command and select "Start Logging"

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How can I capture my router configuration for a printed copy?  I know I can
highlight and copy as I page down in a telnet session, but, there must be an
easier way to get it into a .txt file all at once.  Thanks for any help,
Dave

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VLSM and CIDR

2001-03-23 Thread Dennis Laganiere

In response to a previous e-mail I was asked to define the difference VLSM
and CIDR, which I think is a fairly common question.  The quick and dirty
answer I gave is that CIDR is for external protocols like BGP, while VLSM is
for IGPs.  Here are some links to the groupstudy archives with the more
detailed answers...

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/23/msg00796.html

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/199909/msg00485.html

I hope there are some who find this useful...

--- Dennis


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RE: 2610 Serial Interface Puzzler

2001-03-23 Thread John Neiberger

Hmmm, you appear to be correct.  I'm looking through the quick reference
guide and I don't see the NM-1E2W as an option on the 2600 series.  That
might be a problem. I wonder if it's actually working.  

>>> "Jim Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 3:53:34 PM >>>
I don't think that module is even supported in the 2600's. Someone
correct
me if I'm wrong, but can't you only use the NM-1E or NM-2W, not a
NM-1E2W in
the 2600's

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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: 2610 Serial Interface Puzzler


Those modules are numbered from right to left, but only includes
installed modules, I believe.  If you had two installed, they would
be--from left to right--1/1 and 1/0.

>>> "Gareth Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 2:50:43 PM
>>>
Hi All,

Can anybody please explain the following:

I've been messing with a 2600 with an NM1E2W running 12.1(5)T
I put a WIC1T in to slot W0, so this understandably became Serial 1/0.
Powered down, removed WIC1T and restarted then WR MEM so any config
for
S1/0
is gone.
Powered down. Inserted WIC1T into slot W1.
This also came up as S1/0 as opposed to what I would have expected
(S1/1).
I had successful connections on S1/0 while WIC1T was in either slot.

I'd be interested to see what happens with two WIC1T's in but had to
get the
router on line before I could get hold of another WIC1T.

Anyone know the reason for this?

Thanks,

Gareth


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Re: 2610 Serial Interface Puzzler

2001-03-23 Thread Gareth Hinton

I installed one module in the left (labelled W1) and it became S1/0.
So if I put a second module in the right (W0), would the original change to
S1/1 and the new one be S1/0?
Make a right mess of my config.
Sort of wish I'd hung on and tried it now. I'll have to try and dig another
2600 out of spares.

Gaz


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> Those modules are numbered from right to left, but only includes
> installed modules, I believe.  If you had two installed, they would
> be--from left to right--1/1 and 1/0.
>
> >>> "Gareth Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 2:50:43 PM
> >>>
> Hi All,
>
> Can anybody please explain the following:
>
> I've been messing with a 2600 with an NM1E2W running 12.1(5)T
> I put a WIC1T in to slot W0, so this understandably became Serial 1/0.
> Powered down, removed WIC1T and restarted then WR MEM so any config for
> S1/0
> is gone.
> Powered down. Inserted WIC1T into slot W1.
> This also came up as S1/0 as opposed to what I would have expected
> (S1/1).
> I had successful connections on S1/0 while WIC1T was in either slot.
>
> I'd be interested to see what happens with two WIC1T's in but had to
> get the
> router on line before I could get hold of another WIC1T.
>
> Anyone know the reason for this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gareth
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Re: IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC NETWORK (INSIDE LOCAL NETWORK) (INSIDE GLOBAL NETWORK) SUBMASK????

2001-03-23 Thread Michael Snyder

Might want to backup there John,  Even try it on your router, IP NAT INSIDE
SOURCE STATIC "NETWORK" is a real command, but it's not on the master index.
IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC A.B.C.D is.

Try again.



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> If I were you I'd learn to use the documentation CD better before you
> attempt the lab!  
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121mindx/ind
ex.htm
>
>
> I'm teasing, but I'm serious.  I haven't taken it but I've heard that
> the ability to quickly find information such as this will save your hide
> during the lab exam.  When you're pressed for time that irritating
> search feature is even more useless than it usually is.
>
> HTH,
> John
>
> p.s.  Sorry if I came across as a smart a**.  That's not intentional,
> it's just my nature.  ;-)
>
> >>> "Michael Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 2:53:44 PM >>>
> Anyone know what 'IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC NETWORK (INSIDE LOCAL
> NETWORK)
> (INSIDE GLOBAL NETWORK) SUBMASk' does?
>
> There's no documentation on CCO to how to use it.
>
> I was trying to map a 8.0.0.0/8 network (one to one, both directions)
> to a
> 9.0.0.0/8 network via Nat.
>
>
> For example, ping 9.0.0.1 and 8.0.0.1 replies.
>
> Any idea on a easy way to do this?  I tried the ip nat pool match host,
> but
> the mappings seem to only to be active one way.
>
> Any sample configs will  appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: 2610 Serial Interface Puzzler

2001-03-23 Thread Jim Brown

I don't think that module is even supported in the 2600's. Someone correct
me if I'm wrong, but can't you only use the NM-1E or NM-2W, not a NM-1E2W in
the 2600's

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2610 Serial Interface Puzzler


Those modules are numbered from right to left, but only includes
installed modules, I believe.  If you had two installed, they would
be--from left to right--1/1 and 1/0.

>>> "Gareth Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 2:50:43 PM
>>>
Hi All,

Can anybody please explain the following:

I've been messing with a 2600 with an NM1E2W running 12.1(5)T
I put a WIC1T in to slot W0, so this understandably became Serial 1/0.
Powered down, removed WIC1T and restarted then WR MEM so any config for
S1/0
is gone.
Powered down. Inserted WIC1T into slot W1.
This also came up as S1/0 as opposed to what I would have expected
(S1/1).
I had successful connections on S1/0 while WIC1T was in either slot.

I'd be interested to see what happens with two WIC1T's in but had to
get the
router on line before I could get hold of another WIC1T.

Anyone know the reason for this?

Thanks,

Gareth


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Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Jay Chandradas



I am not sure CDP will keep the line up ? And ur interesting traffic is
permit ip any any . I dont think CDP will keep the line up. When u do a
debug ip pack.. u can nvr see CDP.. CDP is layer 2.

my 0.02

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From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bob Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Bob Boone
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
> To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
> restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
> statement and then explisit deny all.
> still not working.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
> >
> > 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only
the
> > IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > when u r redistributing into
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> > Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
> >
> >
> > > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > > flapping.
> > > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > > thing
> > > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > > here's the key configs:
> > > > interface BRI0/0
> > > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > > >  encapsulation ppp
> > > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > > >  dialer-group 1
> > > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > > >  ppp authentication chap
> > > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > > >  ppp multilink
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > router ospf 1
> > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > > >  area 0 authentication message-digest
> > > >  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
> > > >  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
> > > >  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> > > > stuff
> > > >  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
> > > >  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
> > > >  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
> > > >  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
> > > >  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
> > > >  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > > > access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> > > > route-map stuff deny 5
> > > >  match ip address 15
> > > > !
> > > > route-map stuff permit 10
> > > >  set tag 4
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FIGURED IT OUT!!!

2001-03-23 Thread Brent Ulfig

After many hours of trying to get the ISP to send me the configuration...and
they never did...rat bastards won't let anyone else into it...
I ended up having to shut off their router, and turn it back on...to see if
it was an arp issue on the router...i knew it wasn't an issue on the pix...
THAT fixed it...
all the commands and everything else i did was a waste of time more or less
(cept i learned more about a pix 515...so i guess it wasn't a complete
waste)...

Thanks for tha help guys!!!

Brent
CCNP, CCDA, MCSE, MCP+I, ETC.


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> DO you have statics for these hosts you are pinging
> from or a blanket global (outside) ?   Your internal
> hosts will need to be translated to routable IPs.
> That is unless youa re using NAT 0 and have a Internet
> routable IP assigned to all your internal hosts.  In
> which case you'll need a staic (inside, outside)
> mapping your IPs to them selves (this can be done with
> a mapping of a network range to itself, inplace of /32
> mappings per host.)
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> --- Brent Ulfig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've got an unusual problem with my PIX 515.
> >
> > I've configured the inside interface correctly, and
> > can ping hosts on the
> > internal network.  I've configured the outside
> > interface correctly (as far
> > as ip addresses go) and can ping anywhere on the
> > internet.
> >
> > I've configured the router (to the internet) as the
> > default route of the
> > pix...and the pix as the default gateway of the
> > hosts on the internal
> > network.
> >
> > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> > command so that i can ping in and out of the
> > firewall...
> >
> > When I try to ping anywhere on the internet from the
> > firewall it
> > works...also when i try to ping the internal network
> > it works...
> >
> > When i try to ping the pix from a host it
> > works...when i try to ping the
> > router (to the internet) from a host it
> > works...(meaning it goes through the
> > pix to the router fine)
> >
> > however, when i try to ping anywhere on the internet
> > (including the next hop
> > from the router) it doesn't work...i can't get
> > passed the router...it just
> > dead ends there...
> >
> > i checked to make sure that the subnet mask on the
> > pix is right...and its
> > fine...
> >
> > any ideas?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brent
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Re: back-to-back serial interfaces

2001-03-23 Thread Richard Wilson

Sorry

I forgot to say that the link works just fine with the
DCE on the IOS 12.0 end.  It doesn't work with the DCE
on the IOS 11.0 end.  The 12.0 end always comes up and
the 11.0 end works just fine as a DTE.

Richard

--- Jason Kolevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you sure you don't have a marginal cable, or
> does it do this with other
> cables as well?  They're shouldn't be a
> compatibility issue between IOS
> versions.
> 
> Jason.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 7:15 PM
> Subject: back-to-back serial interfaces
> 
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > I hate to revisit the old back-to-back serial
> problem
> > but I think I have a new twist.  I've researched
> the
> > archives including Pamela's excellent March 15
> > response and can't seem to find anything that
> fits.  I
> > think my problem is slightly different and I would
> > appreciate any insight the group can provide.
> >
> > I'm running two 2500s with a DCE/DTE cable between
> > serial ports.  "Show Controller" correctly
> identifies
> > the DCE and DTE ends.
> >
> > One end is running IOS 11.0(17) and the other end
> IOS
> > 12.0(9).  I can switch cable ends and in either
> case
> > the router on the DCE end accepts the "Clock Rate"
> > command with no problem.
> >
> > The twist is that the IOS 12 router accepts the
> "No
> > Shutdown" command and comes up.  The 11.0 router
> > accepts the command but the line protocol stays
> down.
> > The "Show Interface" command identifies identical
> > configurations on both ends including HDLC
> > encapsulation.
> >
> > I'm assuming the difference is the IOS version and
> I
> > can certainly upgrade.  Should I encounter this
> > problem in the field, however, I would like to
> > understand what's going on.  Is there an IOS
> command
> > required in the earlier version that isn't
> required in
> > 12?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Richard
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Re: 2610 Serial Interface Puzzler

2001-03-23 Thread John Neiberger

Those modules are numbered from right to left, but only includes
installed modules, I believe.  If you had two installed, they would
be--from left to right--1/1 and 1/0.

>>> "Gareth Hinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 2:50:43 PM
>>>
Hi All,

Can anybody please explain the following:

I've been messing with a 2600 with an NM1E2W running 12.1(5)T
I put a WIC1T in to slot W0, so this understandably became Serial 1/0.
Powered down, removed WIC1T and restarted then WR MEM so any config for
S1/0
is gone.
Powered down. Inserted WIC1T into slot W1.
This also came up as S1/0 as opposed to what I would have expected
(S1/1).
I had successful connections on S1/0 while WIC1T was in either slot.

I'd be interested to see what happens with two WIC1T's in but had to
get the
router on line before I could get hold of another WIC1T.

Anyone know the reason for this?

Thanks,

Gareth


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Re: IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC NETWORK (INSIDE LOCAL NETWORK)(INSIDE GLOBAL NETWORK) SUBMASK????

2001-03-23 Thread John Neiberger

If I were you I'd learn to use the documentation CD better before you
attempt the lab!  

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121mindx/index.htm


I'm teasing, but I'm serious.  I haven't taken it but I've heard that
the ability to quickly find information such as this will save your hide
during the lab exam.  When you're pressed for time that irritating
search feature is even more useless than it usually is.

HTH,
John 

p.s.  Sorry if I came across as a smart a**.  That's not intentional,
it's just my nature.  ;-)

>>> "Michael Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 2:53:44 PM >>>
Anyone know what 'IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC NETWORK (INSIDE LOCAL
NETWORK)
(INSIDE GLOBAL NETWORK) SUBMASk' does?

There's no documentation on CCO to how to use it.

I was trying to map a 8.0.0.0/8 network (one to one, both directions)
to a
9.0.0.0/8 network via Nat.


For example, ping 9.0.0.1 and 8.0.0.1 replies.

Any idea on a easy way to do this?  I tried the ip nat pool match host,
but
the mappings seem to only to be active one way.

Any sample configs will  appreciated.





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RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution

2001-03-23 Thread Chris Larson

Will CDP keep the line up? Turn off CDP.

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Bob Boone
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:30 PM
To: Jay Chandradas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


Yes i do have passive BRI on IGRP, and also, the way it is done now, it
restricts ALL networks, if you look at the access-list 15 it has one
statement and then explisit deny all.
still not working.

- Original Message -
From: "Jay Chandradas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution


> 1. DO u have a passive interface on bri0 under router IGRP
>
> 2. I wud do this way !! when u r redisributing into OSPG .. allow only the
> IGRP networks ( including the network conneted with is running IGRP )
>
> Jay
>
> when u r redistributing into
> - Original Message -
> From: "Netguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 12:01 PM
> Subject: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
>
>
> > > Hello all you happy people.
> > > Router A has ospf/igrp mutual redistribution and bri
> > > int dialing elsewhere with demand circuit. it keeps
> > > flapping.
> > > i followed someone's advice and created a route/map
> > > filter to filter out bri network from igrp
> > > redistributing back into ospf.
> > > what the hell am i doing wrong? i know its a big
> > > thing
> > > that lots of people had problems with.
> > > here's the key configs:
> > > interface BRI0/0
> > >  ip address 173.5.8.1 255.255.255.252
> > >  encapsulation ppp
> > >  ip ospf demand-circuit
> > >  dialer idle-timeout 15
> > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667007
> > >  dialer map ip 173.5.8.2 name R5 broadcast 8667008
> > >  dialer load-threshold 128 outbound
> > >  dialer-group 1
> > >  isdn switch-type basic-dms100
> > >  isdn spid1 9258667005
> > >  isdn spid2 9258667006
> > >  ppp authentication chap
> > >  ppp chap hostname CCIE
> > >  ppp multilink
> > >
> > >
> > > router ospf 1
> > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > >  area 0 authentication message-digest
> > >  area 0 range 173.5.1.0 255.255.255.0
> > >  summary-address 173.5.10.0 255.255.255.0
> > >  redistribute igrp 100 metric 100 subnets route-map
> > > stuff
> > >  network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.3 area 0
> > >  network 173.5.1.0 0.0.0.15 area 0
> > >  network 173.5.7.0 0.0.0.7 area 3
> > >  network 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 area 3
> > >  network 173.5.10.0 0.0.0.127 area 3
> > >  network 173.5.17.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > > access-list 15 permit 173.5.8.0 0.0.0.3 log
> > > route-map stuff deny 5
> > >  match ip address 15
> > > !
> > > route-map stuff permit 10
> > >  set tag 4
> > >
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OT: VeriSign tricked into giving a certificate for MicroSoft

2001-03-23 Thread Paul Borghese

Check out the following article:

http://news.excite.com/news/ap/010322/17/microsoft-impostor

Verisign was tricked into giving a digital certificate that will allow an
imposter to represent themselves as Microsoft. Do browsers check a
Certificate Revocation List?

Paul Borghese

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2610 Serial Interface Puzzler

2001-03-23 Thread Gareth Hinton

Hi All,

Can anybody please explain the following:

I've been messing with a 2600 with an NM1E2W running 12.1(5)T
I put a WIC1T in to slot W0, so this understandably became Serial 1/0.
Powered down, removed WIC1T and restarted then WR MEM so any config for S1/0
is gone.
Powered down. Inserted WIC1T into slot W1.
This also came up as S1/0 as opposed to what I would have expected (S1/1).
I had successful connections on S1/0 while WIC1T was in either slot.

I'd be interested to see what happens with two WIC1T's in but had to get the
router on line before I could get hold of another WIC1T.

Anyone know the reason for this?

Thanks,

Gareth


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IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC NETWORK (INSIDE LOCAL NETWORK) (INSIDE GLOBAL NETWORK) SUBMASK????

2001-03-23 Thread Michael Snyder

Anyone know what 'IP NAT INSIDE SOURCE STATIC NETWORK (INSIDE LOCAL NETWORK)
(INSIDE GLOBAL NETWORK) SUBMASk' does?

There's no documentation on CCO to how to use it.

I was trying to map a 8.0.0.0/8 network (one to one, both directions) to a
9.0.0.0/8 network via Nat.


For example, ping 9.0.0.1 and 8.0.0.1 replies.

Any idea on a easy way to do this?  I tried the ip nat pool match host, but
the mappings seem to only to be active one way.

Any sample configs will  appreciated.





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Re: RJ45 ethernet to cisco Serial conversion?

2001-03-23 Thread Dom

Think about devices such as  HP Jet Directs or Intel Netports (bidirectional
serial or parallel to
Ethernet) which allow you to connect legacy printers to Ethernet LANs.

These devices are not big or expensive so it IS possible  - OK firmware
reprograming req.



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Re: CIT/Support passing score? Still around 692?

2001-03-23 Thread Circusnuts

Got my sheet right here- 692

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> Anyone taken it recently and care to share? I saw several postings in
> the archives that mention 692, but they were from last year.
>
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Re: Books for BCMSN

2001-03-23 Thread Circusnuts

Cisco press & follow up any questions that you might have with the latest
Exam Cram.  Stay away from the NetCert's book.  It is way too light in
content.  I read the NetCert's & then skimmed the Exam Cram.  I thought they
were written for 2 different tests.  In defense of the NetCert book, it was
the first BCMSN book out when the exams changed.

Good Luck
Phil

PS- know your set commands

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Subject: Books for BCMSN


>
> HAi john and all,
>
> i have done my BSCN and BCRAN and i am planning to go
> through BCMSN next.can you give some good suggesions?
> which is the best book and topics covered(more)and all
> thanks in advance
> and waiting for your fast reply
> bye SRIHARI
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Re: back-to-back serial interfaces

2001-03-23 Thread Circusnuts

Version 9.x or not, backwards compatibility has never been a given.  I
suppose my reaction is a little knee-jerk, being that the bulk of my
experience is in large enterprise networks.  I can't tell you how many times
I've found old routers acting funky- hours or days after a peer upgrade.
Last week I had a 4500 with 11.2(9) start with a EIGRP memory leak because
it was now communicating with a 7513 upgraded to an RSP4/ 12.1 combination
(previously an RSP2 with 11.1).

OK- back to studying :o)
Phil

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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: back-to-back serial interfaces


> that is very frightening.  Did Cisco release notes show a
non-compatability
> between the versions?  That HDLC 'standard' has been in effect since
version
> 9.x
>
> -e-
> - Original Message -
> From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: back-to-back serial interfaces
>
>
> > I had this exact issue a couple of months ago.  The problem was that the
> > flavor of HDLC in older IOS versions was not playing well with the newer
> > versions.  I upgraded the older version to a 12.x version and all was
> > well.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
> >
> > >>> "Richard Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/22/01 4:06:55 PM >>>
> > Hi
> >
> > I hate to revisit the old back-to-back serial problem
> > but I think I have a new twist.  I've researched the
> > archives including Pamela's excellent March 15
> > response and can't seem to find anything that fits.  I
> > think my problem is slightly different and I would
> > appreciate any insight the group can provide.
> >
> > I'm running two 2500s with a DCE/DTE cable between
> > serial ports.  "Show Controller" correctly identifies
> > the DCE and DTE ends.
> >
> > One end is running IOS 11.0(17) and the other end IOS
> > 12.0(9).  I can switch cable ends and in either case
> > the router on the DCE end accepts the "Clock Rate"
> > command with no problem.
> >
> > The twist is that the IOS 12 router accepts the "No
> > Shutdown" command and comes up.  The 11.0 router
> > accepts the command but the line protocol stays down.
> > The "Show Interface" command identifies identical
> > configurations on both ends including HDLC
> > encapsulation.
> >
> > I'm assuming the difference is the IOS version and I
> > can certainly upgrade.  Should I encounter this
> > problem in the field, however, I would like to
> > understand what's going on.  Is there an IOS command
> > required in the earlier version that isn't required in
> > 12?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
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Re: trunking

2001-03-23 Thread Moe Tavakoli

All my 3548s do.  
And the 4000s also do wehn you add teh L3 mod to it. 
It's just that the lower end (no L3) don't...

--- "The.Rock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the catalyst 3548's don't either.
> 
> ""Rik"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > ISL is Cisco proprietary whereas 802.1Q is an open
> standard.  Cisco is
> > moving away from ISL, however.  In fact, some of
> the newer equipment no
> > longer supports it, such as the Cat4000 switches.
> >
> > Dot1Q adds less bits to the frame, but the way in
> which it adds them makes
> > it somewhat less efficient.  ISL adds several more
> bits to ends of the
> > frame, making it easier to view the trunking info
> bits, but the higher
> > number of bits makes the MTU that much higher as
> well.  Dot1Q doesn't have
> > such a pronounced effect on MTU as does ISL.
> >
> > I typically use Dot1Q these days.  Knowing that
> Cisco is moving away from
> > ISL and the fact that other vendor's equipment
> supports Dot1Q makes it a
> > more sensible choice for future compatibility.
> >
> > Rik
> >
> >
> > ""Lopez, Robert"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
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> >
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> > >
> > > What are the differences between isl and 802.1q
> trunking.  If I'm in a
> > total
> > > cisco switched environment,  should I always use
> isl?  What would be a
> > good
> > > reason to use 802.1q?  Which one is more favored
> over the other?
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert M. Lopez
> > > Network Planning
> > > Ann Arbor Data Center
> > > Pfizer Global Research & Development
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Re: Refurbished/used cisco equipment

2001-03-23 Thread CCIE Wanna BE

http://www.optsys.net/ 

Optimized Systems, Inc. 

(Taken from their web site)
Our top quality kits can be tailored to meet  budget
and certification needs.  We have Cisco 25xx, 26xx,
36xx series routers and Catalyst switches available. 
Kits can include router to router cables, token ring
maus, token ring media filters, ethernet transceivers,
console cable kits, DOC CDs, and anything else needed
to setup a home/company lab.  

We also carry a wide variety of routers and modules
applicable to production environments.

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> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 6:22 AM
> Subject: Refurbished/used cisco equipment
> 
> 
> >
> > I am thinking of buying some used cisco equipment
> (cisco 2514, catalyst
> > 1924 & 2924XL,...). Anybody knows the address of a
> site where they offer
> > such hardware?


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Re: recommended CCNP lab

2001-03-23 Thread Cisco Kidd

I think you could pass the four CCNP tests without any hands on, although it 
would be difficult.  I would try just buying the CCNP library and going from 
there.  You could pass with just those books and no equipment.  :)  Hows 
that for bare minimum requirments ;)  Take care.

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>Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:29:00 -0800
>
>If you could, what would you recommend for a lab setup, very basic, just to
>learn all you need and see what is happening. What equipment would be bare
>minimum requirements? At the most reasonable price.
>
>Brad Shifflett
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Re: Autonomous Systems

2001-03-23 Thread Circusnuts

I don't believe you can successfully load balance too two separate AS's
(ISP's), from a single AS (say your domain).  BGP does not work that'a way.
You'd have to have separate gateway AS's coming from the two ISP's & have
IBGP make the decisions within the domain (bellow the two gateways).

Does this make sense ???  Am I on target :-)

Phil

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Subject: RE: Autonomous Systems


> over time, a planned migration would likely be advantageous, from a
> management perspective.
>
> Bri
>
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alassar, Sonia wrote:
>
> > Yes, I am speaking about routing on the internet with BGP-4. If I am a
> > carrier that has 1 AS and I purchase another network (that has multiple
> > ASes) from another carrier, should I integrate them into a single AS, or
> > keep them as multiple AS? It is not that I want to have multiple AS,
> > however, I will have them via the acquisition. The question is should I
keep
> > them separate, or migrate them into one. What added benefit do I get if
I
> > have one? A second question is if 1 AS is so great, why do Sprint,
WorldCom,
> > AT&T,  and Genuity all have multiple AS?
> >
> > Sonia
> >
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RE: print config

2001-03-23 Thread Buri, Heather H

If you are using Windows telnet.exe, you can log it via the terminal menu
command and select "Start Logging"

Heather Buri   
CSC Technology Services - Houston

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To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: print config


How can I capture my router configuration for a printed copy?  I know I can
highlight and copy as I page down in a telnet session, but, there must be an
easier way to get it into a .txt file all at once.  Thanks for any help,
Dave

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The New CCIE Tracks

2001-03-23 Thread Arthur Stewart

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the major changes to the CCIE program
that the new "Communications and Services" and "Security" tracks will make.
I suppose that many people are pretty far down the Routing and Switching
track.

Looking at the new tracks, the most notable changes seem to be:

1.  There will be 8 different alternative written tests for the
Communications & Services track based on what area of specialization you
pursue.  The half of the written test called "General Knowledge" is similar
to the R&S written test.

2.  The Lab test for the "C&S" track will test only the common parts of the
track and is primarily a subset of the Routing and Switching Lab Exam.  Two
items mentioned in the C&S track but not the R&S track are MPLS/VPN and QoS.
The lab rack is the same for R&S and C&S.  Hopefully, this means the backup
for getting a Lab Exam won't be getting even longer.

3.  The Security written test is much different than any previous CCIE
written, but the lab rack includes the same 6 devices listed in the R&S
track as well as a PIX and other security software.

I wonder how the new tracks will be viewed by R&S CCIEs already out there?

Anybody have any comments, corrections or insights?

References:
CCIE Communications and Services
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/services.html

CCIE Communications and Services Exam Blueprint
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/services_blueprint.
html

CCIE Security
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/security.html

CCIE Security Exam Blueprint
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/security_qual_bluep
rint.html


Arthur Stewart, CCNP-Security


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Re: ccie exam fee

2001-03-23 Thread Eric Fairfield

Cisco has not increased these prices for years. I don't blame Cisco at all.
They just increase the lab significantly also.  It will not lower the demand
or backlog for the lab exam.

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> cisco have any reason for the increase?  economy slow down??  hey, correct
> me if i am wrong . they should make exams more affordable for people to
> learn their equipments... common sense... if more people are familiar with
> cisco products, it'll be more likely they'll advise their managers to
> purchase it if they are worried of excessive CCIEs written...  they'll
> should raise CCIE written exam's standards inline with the lab ...
>
> comparing cisco exams with other exams..  it's high.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Dan
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ccie exam fee
>
>
> yes I paid 300
> ""brain"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> hello=20
>
> i have heard rumors of increase in the ccie qualification exam fee to =
> 300 $. is it true. also would there be any increase in the near future =
> in the passing marks of ccie qualification exam (routing and switching) =
> has anyone heard anything about it?
>
> thanx
> umer
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Re: Router 2513

2001-03-23 Thread Kevin Wigle

send the seller an email asking why he won't ship to Canada.

The default is US only and many don't change it.

In your email explain that you will handle the customs hassles.

Most people I have approached with "US only" usually let me bid on their
stuff.

Kevin Wigle

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Subject: Router 2513


>
> Hello Gang,
>
> I am looking for 2513 with 16R/16F.  There are quite a few at ebay.  Most
of
> the sellers are not interested shipping to Canada.  Anybody on the list
> interested to sell one.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> RamG
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Re: can't ping the internet through pix

2001-03-23 Thread Allen May

Brent & Alex,

Just a shot in the dark here but here's what I would check to start tracking
it down.

When the problem occurs does CLEAR XLATE help?

How many IP's in NAT pool?

Using nat 0?

NAT utilization peaks?

How are the public IP's set up?  ACL, static/conduit, or public IP
physically on the devices with the PIX just firewalling without IP
translation?

Are there ACLs in the config?

Allen

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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: can't ping the internet through pix


> Brent,
>
> I don't know whether your PIX problem is same as ours. But this is what is
> happening to us ..
>
> We have a PIX 515. Our PCs, printers, etc, all uses static public IP
> addresses. Once in a while, one of our PC users cannot point his internet
> browser to any URL, nor can he ping anything outside our subnet. The PC
can
> be running Win 98, Win NT or Win 95. We work around this problem so far by
> changing the PC's ip address to another ip address. On some PCs we don't
> even need a re-boot and the computer can go out to internet with no
problem.
> After a day or so, we change it back to its original ip address and it
works
> with no problem. We have opened at least three cases with TAC and have
> upgraded our PIX software version two times but still cannot find a
> permanent fix. I posted our problem to the group a couple of days ago.
>
> If you are using static ip address on your PC maybe you can try to change
to
> another un-used ip address, or release the current ip address to acquired
a
> new one if you are using DHCP and see if it works.
>
> Alex Lee
>
>
>
> ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 99g29m$jj7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99g29m$jj7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > nope
> >
> >
> > ""Alex Lee"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > 99g1pq$gfe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99g1pq$gfe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Are you able to point your web browser to any URL ?
> > >
> > > Alex Lee
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > 99fuhb$tig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99fuhb$tig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > As i mentioned below
> > > >
> > > > > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> > > > > command so that i can ping in and out of the firewall...
> > > >
> > > > The tricky part is...i can ping from the internal network
192.168.1.x
> to
> > > the
> > > > router (which is through the firewall)...i can't ping anything past
> the
> > > > router...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ""Aidan Manning"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > 99ftm7$og7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99ftm7$og7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Is there firewall software running?
> > > > > If so have you rules that are disabling ICMP?
> > > > >
> > > > > ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > 99fq63$5no$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99fq63$5no$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > I've got an unusual problem with my PIX 515.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've configured the inside interface correctly, and can ping
hosts
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > internal network.  I've configured the outside interface
correctly
> > (as
> > > > far
> > > > > > as ip addresses go) and can ping anywhere on the internet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've configured the router (to the internet) as the default
route
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > pix...and the pix as the default gateway of the hosts on the
> > internal
> > > > > > network.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> > > > > > command so that i can ping in and out of the firewall...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I try to ping anywhere on the internet from the firewall it
> > > > > > works...also when i try to ping the internal network it works...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When i try to ping the pix from a host it works...when i try to
> ping
> > > the
> > > > > > router (to the internet) from a host it works...(meaning it goes
> > > through
> > > > > the
> > > > > > pix to the router fine)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > however, when i try to ping anywhere on the internet (including
> the
> > > next
> > > > > hop
> > > > > > from the router) it doesn't work...i can't get passed the
> > router...it
> > > > just
> > > > > > dead ends there...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i checked to make sure that the subnet mask on the pix is
> > right...and
> > > > its
> > > > > > fine...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brent
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RE: Free Training Materials for CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP and CCIE

2001-03-23 Thread Dennis Laganiere

www.cramsession.com

By the way, I wrote the BCMSN and CCIE Written cramsessions, so if you like
them, post a good comment, if you don't contact me directly... :-)

--- Dennis

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http://www.gdd.net/cisco


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CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP


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Re: Is it CCNA 2.0?

2001-03-23 Thread Jack W. Williams

Yes, ICND goes with CCNA 2.0.  The couse for CCNA 1.0 was called ICRC.


- Original Message -
From: Tuan Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:03 AM
Subject: Is it CCNA 2.0?


> Hi group,
>
> I have a copy of INterconnecting Cisco Network Devices (ICND), Revision =
> 1.0a:Student Guide=20
> Volume 1 and 2 produced by Cisco Systems Inc.
>
> The date stated on the box(comes with Volume 1 and 2 and a CD) is 12 =
> October 2000.
>
> Does anyone have this material and i would like to know whether they are =
> CCNA 2.0 compliant
> materials or do i have to search for others?
>
> Many TIA.
>
> Tuan
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RE: Stable IOS supporting SSH

2001-03-23 Thread David Eitel

Thanks Jeff!

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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:46 PM
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Stable IOS supporting SSH


On a 3662 we use 12.1(3)T with ssh and 3DES.  Here's the image:

c3660-ik2o3s-mz.121-3.T.bin

Jeff

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, David Eitel wrote:

> Can anyone tell me a stable IOS version supporting SSH on a 3640? I've
> experienced problems with some IOS versions not seeing interfaces after
> upgrade, etc.
>
> David Eitel
>
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Re: print config

2001-03-23 Thread Jeff Groman

If your using Unix, you can pipe through the tee command.

Jeff



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On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, David Sanderson wrote:

> How can I capture my router configuration for a printed copy?  I know I can
> highlight and copy as I page down in a telnet session, but, there must be an
> easier way to get it into a .txt file all at once.  Thanks for any help,
> Dave
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Re: can't ping the internet through pix

2001-03-23 Thread Moe Tavakoli

Alex,

Your issue seems to be with an ARP entry somewhere... 
Do you have a loop somewhere?  You may want to look
into clear XLATE command on the PIX, or clear ARP on a
a couple items (routers and PIX) when this accures...
If it is an ARP problem, remeber that the ARP time-out
on Cisco is 4hrs. by defualt.  Atleast look at the ARP
tables along the way and see if you have any
"incomplete" ARP entries anywhere.  As far as Brent's
problem goes, it sounds like his is an "all" not
"some" hosts issue.

Moe.

--- Alex Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brent,
> 
> I don't know whether your PIX problem is same as
> ours. But this is what is
> happening to us ..
> 
> We have a PIX 515. Our PCs, printers, etc, all uses
> static public IP
> addresses. Once in a while, one of our PC users
> cannot point his internet
> browser to any URL, nor can he ping anything outside
> our subnet. The PC can
> be running Win 98, Win NT or Win 95. We work around
> this problem so far by
> changing the PC's ip address to another ip address.
> On some PCs we don't
> even need a re-boot and the computer can go out to
> internet with no problem.
> After a day or so, we change it back to its original
> ip address and it works
> with no problem. We have opened at least three cases
> with TAC and have
> upgraded our PIX software version two times but
> still cannot find a
> permanent fix. I posted our problem to the group a
> couple of days ago.
> 
> If you are using static ip address on your PC maybe
> you can try to change to
> another un-used ip address, or release the current
> ip address to acquired a
> new one if you are using DHCP and see if it works.
> 
> Alex Lee
> 
> 
> 
> ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 99g29m$jj7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99g29m$jj7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > nope
> >
> >
> > ""Alex Lee"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> > 99g1pq$gfe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99g1pq$gfe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Are you able to point your web browser to any
> URL ?
> > >
> > > Alex Lee
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> > > 99fuhb$tig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99fuhb$tig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > As i mentioned below
> > > >
> > > > > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any
> any
> > > > > command so that i can ping in and out of the
> firewall...
> > > >
> > > > The tricky part is...i can ping from the
> internal network 192.168.1.x
> to
> > > the
> > > > router (which is through the firewall)...i
> can't ping anything past
> the
> > > > router...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ""Aidan Manning"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote in message
> > > > 99ftm7$og7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99ftm7$og7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Is there firewall software running?
> > > > > If so have you rules that are disabling
> ICMP?
> > > > >
> > > > > ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> > > > > 99fq63$5no$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99fq63$5no$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > I've got an unusual problem with my PIX
> 515.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've configured the inside interface
> correctly, and can ping hosts
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > internal network.  I've configured the
> outside interface correctly
> > (as
> > > > far
> > > > > > as ip addresses go) and can ping anywhere
> on the internet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've configured the router (to the
> internet) as the default route
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > pix...and the pix as the default gateway
> of the hosts on the
> > internal
> > > > > > network.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp
> any any
> > > > > > command so that i can ping in and out of
> the firewall...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I try to ping anywhere on the
> internet from the firewall it
> > > > > > works...also when i try to ping the
> internal network it works...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When i try to ping the pix from a host it
> works...when i try to
> ping
> > > the
> > > > > > router (to the internet) from a host it
> works...(meaning it goes
> > > through
> > > > > the
> > > > > > pix to the router fine)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > however, when i try to ping anywhere on
> the internet (including
> the
> > > next
> > > > > hop
> > > > > > from the router) it doesn't work...i can't
> get passed the
> > router...it
> > > > just
> > > > > > dead ends there...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i checked to make sure that the subnet
> mask on the pix is
> > right...and
> > > > its
> > > > > > fine...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brent
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Re: print config

2001-03-23 Thread Sam

If you are using Microsoft's flavor of Telnet, just select Terminal, then
Start Logging and finally select a file name and location.  It will capture
everything to file until you select Stop Logging.

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> How can I capture my router configuration for a printed copy?  I know I
can
> highlight and copy as I page down in a telnet session, but, there must be
an
> easier way to get it into a .txt file all at once.  Thanks for any help,
> Dave
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Re: Stable IOS supporting SSH

2001-03-23 Thread Jeff Groman

On a 3662 we use 12.1(3)T with ssh and 3DES.  Here's the image:

c3660-ik2o3s-mz.121-3.T.bin

Jeff

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, David Eitel wrote:

> Can anyone tell me a stable IOS version supporting SSH on a 3640? I've
> experienced problems with some IOS versions not seeing interfaces after
> upgrade, etc.
>
> David Eitel
>
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Re: Vlan Question

2001-03-23 Thread The.Rock

LOL... can you say obsessive compulsive

Maybe he was into security but not a DRA plan one without the other
doesn't do much good.

""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> At 03:01 PM 3/22/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >The user is a very high political figure who is real cautious about
security
> >and paranoid. I like the idea of a seperate nic in the server and two
> >subnets. The cost of switches could be a deciding factor. Thanks for the
> >input guys!
> >
> >Brad
>
> It's scary to find someone that's paranoid and demanding about security,
> yet doesn't want to pay for it.  I'd like to assume that such a person, of
> course,
> have done everything they should about making their host secure, including
> encrypting the sensitive files, rather than just obsessing about the
network.
>
> Of course, I've also had a customer that insisted on being BGP multihomed
> to two providers, connected to one provider at two sites and having
> redundant SONET local loops at one of the site, yet only had one physical
> server. Yes, they had a tape backup on the server.  No, they had no spare
> machine to which they could restore the tape.
>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:44 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Vlan Question
> >
> >
> >At 02:01 PM 3/22/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> > >We'll he could be wanting to isolate consultants to their own VLAN but
have
> > >a need to update files on the server. In our case we have auditors come
in
> > >from time to time and so we don't want them in with the rest of the
world
> >so
> > >we isolate them in their own VLAN and then setup an access list. They
are
> > >only here temporary. So I could see how this is a legit question.
> >
> >but if the server isn't on the same VLAN, how do they get to it?  How
does
> >it get to them?
> >
> >Routing between VLANs, and VLAN-aware NICs, are pretty much the
> >only alternatives.  VLANs were introduced to isolate groups, but there's
> >nothing magical about them.
> >
> >If there is sensitive data around, you also want host-level security.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > At 08:26 AM 3/22/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> > > > >Scenario:
> > > > > Got a client who has a person on the network that does not
> >want
> > >to
> > > > >be on the network but wants access to the server.
> > > >
> > > > I'm somewhat confused. First, if he is somehow hidden, how does the
> >server
> > > > send back to the client?
> > > >
> > > > Second, if he is on one VLAN/subnet and the server is on another,
> > > > sounds like a fairly basic routing application.  Another would be to
> > > > have a VLAN-aware NIC on the server.
> > > >
> > > > Without further information, this sounds like a user whim rather
than
> > > > a real requirement.  There's a flavor of the user wanting security
> > > > by obscurity.
> > > >
> > > > >My thought was to install
> > > > >a switch, setup to Vlans, one for all the users (10 or so) and the
> >second
> > > > >Vlan for the 1 user by himself. This way no one can get to his
machine,
> > >then
> > > > >setup an access list to permit his Vlan to access the first Vlan
and
> >deny
> > > > >all the other users to his Vlan. Does this sound right? Anything I
am
> > > > >missing? Seeing if I understand Vlans correctly or not.
> > > > >
> > > > >Brad Shifflett
> > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >Micromenders, Inc.
> > > > >
> > >
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print config

2001-03-23 Thread David Sanderson

How can I capture my router configuration for a printed copy?  I know I can
highlight and copy as I page down in a telnet session, but, there must be an
easier way to get it into a .txt file all at once.  Thanks for any help,
Dave

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Re: trunking

2001-03-23 Thread The.Rock

the catalyst 3548's don't either.

""Rik"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> ISL is Cisco proprietary whereas 802.1Q is an open standard.  Cisco is
> moving away from ISL, however.  In fact, some of the newer equipment no
> longer supports it, such as the Cat4000 switches.
>
> Dot1Q adds less bits to the frame, but the way in which it adds them makes
> it somewhat less efficient.  ISL adds several more bits to ends of the
> frame, making it easier to view the trunking info bits, but the higher
> number of bits makes the MTU that much higher as well.  Dot1Q doesn't have
> such a pronounced effect on MTU as does ISL.
>
> I typically use Dot1Q these days.  Knowing that Cisco is moving away from
> ISL and the fact that other vendor's equipment supports Dot1Q makes it a
> more sensible choice for future compatibility.
>
> Rik
>
>
> ""Lopez, Robert"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >
> > What are the differences between isl and 802.1q trunking.  If I'm in a
> total
> > cisco switched environment,  should I always use isl?  What would be a
> good
> > reason to use 802.1q?  Which one is more favored over the other?
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert M. Lopez
> > Network Planning
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recommended CCNP lab

2001-03-23 Thread Brad Shifflett

If you could, what would you recommend for a lab setup, very basic, just to
learn all you need and see what is happening. What equipment would be bare
minimum requirements? At the most reasonable price.

Brad Shifflett

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Router 2513

2001-03-23 Thread RamG


Hello Gang,

I am looking for 2513 with 16R/16F.  There are quite a few at ebay.  Most of
the sellers are not interested shipping to Canada.  Anybody on the list
interested to sell one.

Thanks


RamG

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RE: Performance Comparision between Linux OS Firewall and Cisco PIX 525

2001-03-23 Thread Chris Lemagie

On the performance front, a Pix 525 will sustain just under 400MB of
throughput, most if any Linux based firewalls will not touch that...  On the
Price front, correct, the Pix 525 is a fairly expensive unit, but you are
able to drop to a 515 which will support 172 MB sustained throughput and 6
interfaces if you purchase the un-restricted version.  The 515 restricted
version comes in at about $5300 with three interfaces and will still support
the same throughput numbers and 65K sessions.

Chris Lemagie

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Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 9:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Performance Comparision between Linux OS Firewall and Cisco
PIX 525


How about if the customer is strapped for money. I work at a school.
Luckily our students haven't gotten sophisticated enough to break into the
Linux firewall but I don't the think that day is too far away. Some of them
are very smart and they are learning Linux and networking in their classes.
But PIX is too expensive, I think??

Priscilla

At 09:24 AM 3/23/01, Rik wrote:
>I have seen way too many Linux firewalls hacked as a result of
>mis-administration.  Now, I'm not assuming anything about your abilities as
>the last confirmed hack that I was notified about was a Linux FW setup by 2
>guys that I know to be excellent Linux admins.  The problem is the inherent
>nature of the beast.  A PIX is totally secure right out of the box.  The
>last Linux hack I speak of was hacked based on an exploit within BIND and
>had nothing to do with the FW policy.
>
>I also find the PIX to be MUCH easier to configure and setup.  I can do in
>only a few lines of code what could possibly take pages and pages of code
in
>Linux.  When talking about firewalls, simplicity is a critically important
>concern.  One compromise could easily remove any upfront cost advantage
>Linux has over Cisco.  Also, you don't have to be concerned with shutting
>down unused services on a PIX as you would on Linux.
>
>Go with the PIX.  It was designed from the ground up to do just what it
>does: protect your network.  Cisco claims that a properly configured PIX
has
>never been compromised.  I believe them.
>
>Rik
>
>
>""Sean Young"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > My company is putting me in charge in implementing a Firewall for our
> > company.  One guy in my networking group is recommending PIX Firewall.
> > Furthermore, he also recommends a Cisco Web-caching engine.  His reason
> > is that not only Cisco is good Firewall but it also provides VPN
> > connectivity to our remote sites.  Myself, on the other hand, would
> > like to implement Linux-based OS firewall along with FreeS/WAN VPN
> > features set.  My reason is that a linux firewall can provide everything
> > a Cisco PIX does and even more.  In term of hardware, the linux
Firewall/
> > VPN/IPSec box will be running a dual-processor (800MHz) with 1GB of RAM.
> > I just feel that I can get a lot more for the amount that we are going
> > to spend with linux than with Cisco PIX.  I also feel that I tweak the
> > source code on the LINUX kernel to increase the performance and
security.
> > Also, instead of purchasing the Cisco web-caching engine, I am thinking
> > of building another linux box that will be running squid (web-caching)
> > server.  Don't get me wrong, I think Cisco has a lot of good products
> > in the area of routing; however, I just don't think it is necessary to
> > throw away money at Cisco when I know that Linux or BSD can do the same
> > job that PIX and Cisco web-caching engine do but for much less and also
> > I can control the source code.  Has anyone has experiences with both
> > the Linux/BSD, Squid and Cisco PIX, Cisco web-caching engine so that
> > you can give advice on what I should do.  I am open to your suggestions.
> >
> > Many thanks.
> > Sean
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Re: can't ping the internet through pix

2001-03-23 Thread Moe Tavakoli

DO you have statics for these hosts you are pinging
from or a blanket global (outside) ?   Your internal
hosts will need to be translated to routable IPs. 
That is unless youa re using NAT 0 and have a Internet
routable IP assigned to all your internal hosts.  In
which case you'll need a staic (inside, outside)
mapping your IPs to them selves (this can be done with
a mapping of a network range to itself, inplace of /32
mappings per host.)

Hope that helps.

--- Brent Ulfig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got an unusual problem with my PIX 515.
> 
> I've configured the inside interface correctly, and
> can ping hosts on the
> internal network.  I've configured the outside
> interface correctly (as far
> as ip addresses go) and can ping anywhere on the
> internet.
> 
> I've configured the router (to the internet) as the
> default route of the
> pix...and the pix as the default gateway of the
> hosts on the internal
> network.
> 
> I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> command so that i can ping in and out of the
> firewall...
> 
> When I try to ping anywhere on the internet from the
> firewall it
> works...also when i try to ping the internal network
> it works...
> 
> When i try to ping the pix from a host it
> works...when i try to ping the
> router (to the internet) from a host it
> works...(meaning it goes through the
> pix to the router fine)
> 
> however, when i try to ping anywhere on the internet
> (including the next hop
> from the router) it doesn't work...i can't get
> passed the router...it just
> dead ends there...
> 
> i checked to make sure that the subnet mask on the
> pix is right...and its
> fine...
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brent
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Re: Pix: intercept and redirect

2001-03-23 Thread Moe Tavakoli

There is no command in the PIX that would allow you to
"redirect" not at Layer two or three.  The only thing
that I can think of is by the fact that you are not
using NAT on this box, so I assme you use NAT0.  NAT 0
us still going throug the NAT process, but ends up
assigning the same IP to the field and it is
trasparant to the user.  The command that comes to
mind in teh static used in NAT0:

static (inside, outside) 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.1

What this is doing is saying for that IP to be
available on the outside and to NAT it to the smae IP
on the inside.  I'm not sure if it will work, but try
to change the first 192.168.1.1 to your "B" Ip address
lets say 192.168.1.2  From a threory level this makes
sense to me but I'm not sure if the PIX will take it
and how it would react.

Just some thoughts.

Moe.

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> I've had a request to have our Pix firewall catch
> inbound traffic headed 
> for host A and redirect it to host B. We do not have
> NAT enabled on the Pix 
> (ver 5.1).
> 
> Am I missing something? I don't see a way to do
> this.
> 
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Re: Ethernet address question

2001-03-23 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 09:53 AM 3/23/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>   I found the answer to your question? what is ..0001 ? it a default
>IPX address that Netware gives it's servers.

That's a network-layer address.

I've never seen ..0001 at the MAC layer, which I'm pretty sure he 
was asking about. Someone else said it was a locally-administered address, 
but I don't think that's true. With a locally-administered address the 
second bit transmitted is a 1. The address would be 02:00:00:00:00:01. We 
have to assume since this is Ethernet that he told us the address in 
canonical form (ugh).

We need more context to help. Where did he see this address?

Priscilla

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Re: Performance Comparision between Linux OS Firewall and Cisco PIX 525

2001-03-23 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

How about if the customer is strapped for money. I work at a school. 
Luckily our students haven't gotten sophisticated enough to break into the 
Linux firewall but I don't the think that day is too far away. Some of them 
are very smart and they are learning Linux and networking in their classes. 
But PIX is too expensive, I think??

Priscilla

At 09:24 AM 3/23/01, Rik wrote:
>I have seen way too many Linux firewalls hacked as a result of
>mis-administration.  Now, I'm not assuming anything about your abilities as
>the last confirmed hack that I was notified about was a Linux FW setup by 2
>guys that I know to be excellent Linux admins.  The problem is the inherent
>nature of the beast.  A PIX is totally secure right out of the box.  The
>last Linux hack I speak of was hacked based on an exploit within BIND and
>had nothing to do with the FW policy.
>
>I also find the PIX to be MUCH easier to configure and setup.  I can do in
>only a few lines of code what could possibly take pages and pages of code in
>Linux.  When talking about firewalls, simplicity is a critically important
>concern.  One compromise could easily remove any upfront cost advantage
>Linux has over Cisco.  Also, you don't have to be concerned with shutting
>down unused services on a PIX as you would on Linux.
>
>Go with the PIX.  It was designed from the ground up to do just what it
>does: protect your network.  Cisco claims that a properly configured PIX has
>never been compromised.  I believe them.
>
>Rik
>
>
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> > My company is putting me in charge in implementing a Firewall for our
> > company.  One guy in my networking group is recommending PIX Firewall.
> > Furthermore, he also recommends a Cisco Web-caching engine.  His reason
> > is that not only Cisco is good Firewall but it also provides VPN
> > connectivity to our remote sites.  Myself, on the other hand, would
> > like to implement Linux-based OS firewall along with FreeS/WAN VPN
> > features set.  My reason is that a linux firewall can provide everything
> > a Cisco PIX does and even more.  In term of hardware, the linux Firewall/
> > VPN/IPSec box will be running a dual-processor (800MHz) with 1GB of RAM.
> > I just feel that I can get a lot more for the amount that we are going
> > to spend with linux than with Cisco PIX.  I also feel that I tweak the
> > source code on the LINUX kernel to increase the performance and security.
> > Also, instead of purchasing the Cisco web-caching engine, I am thinking
> > of building another linux box that will be running squid (web-caching)
> > server.  Don't get me wrong, I think Cisco has a lot of good products
> > in the area of routing; however, I just don't think it is necessary to
> > throw away money at Cisco when I know that Linux or BSD can do the same
> > job that PIX and Cisco web-caching engine do but for much less and also
> > I can control the source code.  Has anyone has experiences with both
> > the Linux/BSD, Squid and Cisco PIX, Cisco web-caching engine so that
> > you can give advice on what I should do.  I am open to your suggestions.
> >
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Re: can't ping the internet through pix

2001-03-23 Thread Brent Ulfig

we are using static internal ips...i'll give changing the ip a try...but i
dunno if it'll work...the internal hosts can still ping the router (which
must go through the pix) just fine...just can't get passed the router...
perhaps its a problem with the version of PIX i'm running...i bought it
brand new...but in the box is version 4.4...didn't get a support contract
with it

your problem sounds almost like an arp timeout problemlike its set too
high...but thats not possible if you are using static public ip
addresses...i suppose you've tried clearing the arp entries in the
router/pix/hosts by now...

Brent



""Alex Lee"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
99g4bq$voq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99g4bq$voq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Brent,
>
> I don't know whether your PIX problem is same as ours. But this is what is
> happening to us ..
>
> We have a PIX 515. Our PCs, printers, etc, all uses static public IP
> addresses. Once in a while, one of our PC users cannot point his internet
> browser to any URL, nor can he ping anything outside our subnet. The PC
can
> be running Win 98, Win NT or Win 95. We work around this problem so far by
> changing the PC's ip address to another ip address. On some PCs we don't
> even need a re-boot and the computer can go out to internet with no
problem.
> After a day or so, we change it back to its original ip address and it
works
> with no problem. We have opened at least three cases with TAC and have
> upgraded our PIX software version two times but still cannot find a
> permanent fix. I posted our problem to the group a couple of days ago.
>
> If you are using static ip address on your PC maybe you can try to change
to
> another un-used ip address, or release the current ip address to acquired
a
> new one if you are using DHCP and see if it works.
>
> Alex Lee
>
>
>
> ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 99g29m$jj7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99g29m$jj7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > nope
> >
> >
> > ""Alex Lee"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > 99g1pq$gfe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99g1pq$gfe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Are you able to point your web browser to any URL ?
> > >
> > > Alex Lee
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > 99fuhb$tig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99fuhb$tig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > As i mentioned below
> > > >
> > > > > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> > > > > command so that i can ping in and out of the firewall...
> > > >
> > > > The tricky part is...i can ping from the internal network
192.168.1.x
> to
> > > the
> > > > router (which is through the firewall)...i can't ping anything past
> the
> > > > router...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ""Aidan Manning"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > 99ftm7$og7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99ftm7$og7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Is there firewall software running?
> > > > > If so have you rules that are disabling ICMP?
> > > > >
> > > > > ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > 99fq63$5no$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99fq63$5no$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > I've got an unusual problem with my PIX 515.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've configured the inside interface correctly, and can ping
hosts
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > internal network.  I've configured the outside interface
correctly
> > (as
> > > > far
> > > > > > as ip addresses go) and can ping anywhere on the internet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've configured the router (to the internet) as the default
route
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > pix...and the pix as the default gateway of the hosts on the
> > internal
> > > > > > network.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> > > > > > command so that i can ping in and out of the firewall...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I try to ping anywhere on the internet from the firewall it
> > > > > > works...also when i try to ping the internal network it works...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When i try to ping the pix from a host it works...when i try to
> ping
> > > the
> > > > > > router (to the internet) from a host it works...(meaning it goes
> > > through
> > > > > the
> > > > > > pix to the router fine)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > however, when i try to ping anywhere on the internet (including
> the
> > > next
> > > > > hop
> > > > > > from the router) it doesn't work...i can't get passed the
> > router...it
> > > > just
> > > > > > dead ends there...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i checked to make sure that the subnet mask on the pix is
> > right...and
> > > > its
> > > > > > fine...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brent
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Re: Route filtering - Update

2001-03-23 Thread Curtis Call

Well each additional process will add strain to the CPU of the router, in 
general I would try to avoid it, if there is anyway to limit the number of 
processes (ie only run one EIGRP process or one OSPF process) then I would 
do so.  However, in this case, this might be your best bet.

At 10:08 AM 3/23/01, you wrote:
>ok, tried the 2 OSPF and 2 EIGRP idea and it works and provides the required
>results.  Thanks John and Chris!
>
>But let me ask this of the group.
>
>Are there design questions here with using 4 routing processes??
>
>I don't think I would have come up with this myself although I did do a
>design once that used 2 OSPF processes.
>
>But 4 could be "over the top"??  what do you think?
>
>I can remember a time when it was strenuously considered bad design to use
>OSPF virtual links.  But then came a wave a companies either merging or
>eating each other and then virtual links were used to join two area 0s.
>OSPF virtual links are still (I think) frowned upon but are now more readily
>accepted for certain situations.
>
>This particular scenario I think is for 2 organizations sharing a network.
>They pay for their own upstream circuit but are sharing a router.  My first
>thoughts were - buy a second router, each has only one network on the inside
>and each can control their own upstream routing - but for some reason this
>isn't an option.
>
>Anyway, I'm going to do some load testing to see how hard the cpu is working
>with 4 routing processes vs 2.
>
>But comments on the design "theory" would be welcome.
>
>Also, I'll try to get route-map re-distribution working, that might get it
>down to 2 processes.
>
>thanks again to the group!
>
>Kevin Wigle
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Curtis Call" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 10:54 AM
>Subject: Re: Route filtering - somewhat long
>
>
> > You might want to look into using a route map to specify to only allow
>each
> > network into one particular area.  If you can't get that to work then you
> > could try using different ospf processes on the router one for 1015 and
>one
> > for 1020, and once again use a route-map to specify which networks to
> > allow.  That way area 1015 will only have an LSA 5 for 142.226.20.0 and
> > area 1020 will only have an
> > LSA 5 for 142.226.10.0
> >
> >
> >
> > At 08:25 AM 3/23/01, you wrote:
> > >Dear Group,
> > >
> > >I have an interesting scenario I'm trying to mock up in the lab and
>getting
> > >nowhere fast.
> > >
> > >I'm not good at ascii art so I'll try to describe the setup.
> > >
> > >Imagine a core network with 4 routers, put them in a square, from the top
> > >left clockwise, routerA, routerB, routerC, routerD.
> > >
> > >These routers are connected in a full mesh and OSPF is configured.
> > >
> > >Each router of course is in Area 0 but each router also has another area.
> > >
> > >routerA - 1005
> > >routerB - 1010
> > >routerC - 1015
> > >routerD - 1020
> > >
> > >There is a fifth router at the bottom - routerE, connecting to routerC
>and
> > >routerD with equal cost circuits using point-to-point addresses.
> > >
> > >These transit routes are configured into OSPF, each network into the same
> > >area as the core router where it terminates.
> > >
> > >On a third ( Ethernet ) interface on routerE there are two networks, one
>as
> > >primary and one as secondary. Let's use: primary 142.226.10.0 and
>secondary:
> > >142.226.20.0
> > >
> > >Policy routing has been configured to allow the prime network out the
> > >routerE-routerD circuit and the secondary network has been configured to
>go
> > >out the routerE-routerC circuit.
> > >
> > >EIGRP has been configured for the networks on the inside of routerE and
>is
> > >redistributed into OSPF with no auto-summary.
> > >
> > >Now, when on either routerA or routerB, the inside routes are in the
>routing
> > >table as available through both routers.
> > >
> > >Objective.
> > >
> > >Have 142.226.10.0 only advertised out routerE-routerD
> > >
> > >and 142.226.20.0 only advertised out routerE-routerC
> > >
> > >Discussion.
> > >
> > >I have been reading madly about distribute lists and route-maps.  It all
> > >reads so simply but I think this particular situation is interesting
>because
> > >of the two networks on one interface.
> > >
> > >OSPF cannot use a distribute list and use the interface command (would
>have
> > >been perfect).
> > >
> > >OSPF cannot filter incoming updates (which would have been great on
>routerC
> > >and routerD).
> > >
> > >On the face of it this "seems" so simple - but - I'm stuck.
> > >
> > >Any ideas welcome.
> > >
> > >tia
> > >
> > >Kevin Wigle
> > >
> > >Using access-lists on the egress ports don't seem to do it either.

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Re: can't ping the internet through pix

2001-03-23 Thread Alex Lee

Brent,

I don't know whether your PIX problem is same as ours. But this is what is
happening to us ..

We have a PIX 515. Our PCs, printers, etc, all uses static public IP
addresses. Once in a while, one of our PC users cannot point his internet
browser to any URL, nor can he ping anything outside our subnet. The PC can
be running Win 98, Win NT or Win 95. We work around this problem so far by
changing the PC's ip address to another ip address. On some PCs we don't
even need a re-boot and the computer can go out to internet with no problem.
After a day or so, we change it back to its original ip address and it works
with no problem. We have opened at least three cases with TAC and have
upgraded our PIX software version two times but still cannot find a
permanent fix. I posted our problem to the group a couple of days ago.

If you are using static ip address on your PC maybe you can try to change to
another un-used ip address, or release the current ip address to acquired a
new one if you are using DHCP and see if it works.

Alex Lee



""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> nope
>
>
> ""Alex Lee"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 99g1pq$gfe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99g1pq$gfe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Are you able to point your web browser to any URL ?
> >
> > Alex Lee
> >
> >
> > ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > 99fuhb$tig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99fuhb$tig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > As i mentioned below
> > >
> > > > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> > > > command so that i can ping in and out of the firewall...
> > >
> > > The tricky part is...i can ping from the internal network 192.168.1.x
to
> > the
> > > router (which is through the firewall)...i can't ping anything past
the
> > > router...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Aidan Manning"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > 99ftm7$og7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99ftm7$og7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Is there firewall software running?
> > > > If so have you rules that are disabling ICMP?
> > > >
> > > > ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > 99fq63$5no$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99fq63$5no$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > I've got an unusual problem with my PIX 515.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've configured the inside interface correctly, and can ping hosts
> on
> > > the
> > > > > internal network.  I've configured the outside interface correctly
> (as
> > > far
> > > > > as ip addresses go) and can ping anywhere on the internet.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've configured the router (to the internet) as the default route
of
> > the
> > > > > pix...and the pix as the default gateway of the hosts on the
> internal
> > > > > network.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> > > > > command so that i can ping in and out of the firewall...
> > > > >
> > > > > When I try to ping anywhere on the internet from the firewall it
> > > > > works...also when i try to ping the internal network it works...
> > > > >
> > > > > When i try to ping the pix from a host it works...when i try to
ping
> > the
> > > > > router (to the internet) from a host it works...(meaning it goes
> > through
> > > > the
> > > > > pix to the router fine)
> > > > >
> > > > > however, when i try to ping anywhere on the internet (including
the
> > next
> > > > hop
> > > > > from the router) it doesn't work...i can't get passed the
> router...it
> > > just
> > > > > dead ends there...
> > > > >
> > > > > i checked to make sure that the subnet mask on the pix is
> right...and
> > > its
> > > > > fine...
> > > > >
> > > > > any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Brent
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Re: Route filtering - Update

2001-03-23 Thread Kevin Wigle

ok, tried the 2 OSPF and 2 EIGRP idea and it works and provides the required
results.  Thanks John and Chris!

But let me ask this of the group.

Are there design questions here with using 4 routing processes??

I don't think I would have come up with this myself although I did do a
design once that used 2 OSPF processes.

But 4 could be "over the top"??  what do you think?

I can remember a time when it was strenuously considered bad design to use
OSPF virtual links.  But then came a wave a companies either merging or
eating each other and then virtual links were used to join two area 0s.
OSPF virtual links are still (I think) frowned upon but are now more readily
accepted for certain situations.

This particular scenario I think is for 2 organizations sharing a network.
They pay for their own upstream circuit but are sharing a router.  My first
thoughts were - buy a second router, each has only one network on the inside
and each can control their own upstream routing - but for some reason this
isn't an option.

Anyway, I'm going to do some load testing to see how hard the cpu is working
with 4 routing processes vs 2.

But comments on the design "theory" would be welcome.

Also, I'll try to get route-map re-distribution working, that might get it
down to 2 processes.

thanks again to the group!

Kevin Wigle


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> You might want to look into using a route map to specify to only allow
each
> network into one particular area.  If you can't get that to work then you
> could try using different ospf processes on the router one for 1015 and
one
> for 1020, and once again use a route-map to specify which networks to
> allow.  That way area 1015 will only have an LSA 5 for 142.226.20.0 and
> area 1020 will only have an
> LSA 5 for 142.226.10.0
>
>
>
> At 08:25 AM 3/23/01, you wrote:
> >Dear Group,
> >
> >I have an interesting scenario I'm trying to mock up in the lab and
getting
> >nowhere fast.
> >
> >I'm not good at ascii art so I'll try to describe the setup.
> >
> >Imagine a core network with 4 routers, put them in a square, from the top
> >left clockwise, routerA, routerB, routerC, routerD.
> >
> >These routers are connected in a full mesh and OSPF is configured.
> >
> >Each router of course is in Area 0 but each router also has another area.
> >
> >routerA - 1005
> >routerB - 1010
> >routerC - 1015
> >routerD - 1020
> >
> >There is a fifth router at the bottom - routerE, connecting to routerC
and
> >routerD with equal cost circuits using point-to-point addresses.
> >
> >These transit routes are configured into OSPF, each network into the same
> >area as the core router where it terminates.
> >
> >On a third ( Ethernet ) interface on routerE there are two networks, one
as
> >primary and one as secondary. Let's use: primary 142.226.10.0 and
secondary:
> >142.226.20.0
> >
> >Policy routing has been configured to allow the prime network out the
> >routerE-routerD circuit and the secondary network has been configured to
go
> >out the routerE-routerC circuit.
> >
> >EIGRP has been configured for the networks on the inside of routerE and
is
> >redistributed into OSPF with no auto-summary.
> >
> >Now, when on either routerA or routerB, the inside routes are in the
routing
> >table as available through both routers.
> >
> >Objective.
> >
> >Have 142.226.10.0 only advertised out routerE-routerD
> >
> >and 142.226.20.0 only advertised out routerE-routerC
> >
> >Discussion.
> >
> >I have been reading madly about distribute lists and route-maps.  It all
> >reads so simply but I think this particular situation is interesting
because
> >of the two networks on one interface.
> >
> >OSPF cannot use a distribute list and use the interface command (would
have
> >been perfect).
> >
> >OSPF cannot filter incoming updates (which would have been great on
routerC
> >and routerD).
> >
> >On the face of it this "seems" so simple - but - I'm stuck.
> >
> >Any ideas welcome.
> >
> >tia
> >
> >Kevin Wigle
> >
> >Using access-lists on the egress ports don't seem to do it either.


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Stable IOS supporting SSH

2001-03-23 Thread David Eitel

Can anyone tell me a stable IOS version supporting SSH on a 3640? I've
experienced problems with some IOS versions not seeing interfaces after
upgrade, etc.

David Eitel


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OT: Fridays funnies!

2001-03-23 Thread Natasha

An 80 year old man was having his annual checkup and the doctor asked
him how he was feeling.

"I've never been better!" he boasted. "I've got an eighteen year old
bride who's pregnant and having my child! What do you think about
that?"

The doctor considered this for a moment, then said, "Let me tell you a
story. I knew a guy who was an avid hunter. He never missed a
season.

But one day went out in a bit of a hurry and he accidentally grabbed
his umbrella instead of his gun."

The doctor continued, "So he was in the woods and suddenly a grizzly
bear appeared in front of him! He raised up his umbrella, pointed it
at the bear and squeezed the handle." "And do you know what happened?"
the doctor queried.

Dumbfounded, the old man replied "No".

The doctor continued, "The bear dropped dead in front of him!"

"That's impossible!" exclaimed the old man. "Someone else must have
shot that bear."

"That's kind of what I'm getting at..." replied the doctor.

---

A couple had two little boys, ages 8 and 10, who were excessively
mischievous.  They were always getting into trouble and their
parents could be assured that if any mischief occurred in their town,
their two boys were in some way involved.  They were at
their wits end as to what to do about their sons' behavior. They
heard that a new clergyman in town had been successful in disciplining
children in the past and decided to have him speak to their two
Dennis The Menaces.

The 8-year-old went to meet with him first.

The clergyman sat the boy down and asked him, "Where is God?"

When the boy made no response, the clergyman repeated the question in a
stern tone,
"Where is God?"  Again the boy made no attempt to answer, so the
clergyman raised his voice even more and shook his finger in the boy's
face, "WHERE IS GOD?"  At that the boy bolted from the room and ran
directly home slamming himself in his closet.

 His 10 year old brother followed the scared and breathless
boy who cried . . .  "We are in BIG trouble this time!

God is missing and they think we did it!"

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Re: remove

2001-03-23 Thread Allen May

You can check out any time you like, but you can never lve.

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Re: can't ping the internet through pix

2001-03-23 Thread Brent Ulfig

nope


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>
> Alex Lee
>
>
> ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > As i mentioned below
> >
> > > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> > > command so that i can ping in and out of the firewall...
> >
> > The tricky part is...i can ping from the internal network 192.168.1.x to
> the
> > router (which is through the firewall)...i can't ping anything past the
> > router...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Aidan Manning"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > 99ftm7$og7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99ftm7$og7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Is there firewall software running?
> > > If so have you rules that are disabling ICMP?
> > >
> > > ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > 99fq63$5no$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99fq63$5no$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I've got an unusual problem with my PIX 515.
> > > >
> > > > I've configured the inside interface correctly, and can ping hosts
on
> > the
> > > > internal network.  I've configured the outside interface correctly
(as
> > far
> > > > as ip addresses go) and can ping anywhere on the internet.
> > > >
> > > > I've configured the router (to the internet) as the default route of
> the
> > > > pix...and the pix as the default gateway of the hosts on the
internal
> > > > network.
> > > >
> > > > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> > > > command so that i can ping in and out of the firewall...
> > > >
> > > > When I try to ping anywhere on the internet from the firewall it
> > > > works...also when i try to ping the internal network it works...
> > > >
> > > > When i try to ping the pix from a host it works...when i try to ping
> the
> > > > router (to the internet) from a host it works...(meaning it goes
> through
> > > the
> > > > pix to the router fine)
> > > >
> > > > however, when i try to ping anywhere on the internet (including the
> next
> > > hop
> > > > from the router) it doesn't work...i can't get passed the
router...it
> > just
> > > > dead ends there...
> > > >
> > > > i checked to make sure that the subnet mask on the pix is
right...and
> > its
> > > > fine...
> > > >
> > > > any ideas?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Brent
> > > > CCNP, CCDA, MCSE, MCP+I, etc.
> > > >
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Re: trunking

2001-03-23 Thread ciscosis

ISL has a number of advantages over dot1q,  for example it supports per vlan
spanning tree (PVST) which allows a separate spantree instance per Vlan
which makes networks more scalable and more stable than dot1q based.

It is Cisco proprietary but it interoperates with dot1q (common spanning
tree) compliant switches (using Cisco protocol PVST+)

 If you are building a large cisco switched network with alot of Vlans and
are worried about issues such as spanning tree convergence/ stability
/reliability .. definately go for  ISL








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Re: CIT/Support passing score? Still around 692?

2001-03-23 Thread Tom

yes - i found the same thing and was surprised to see that I got 0% on HDLC,
and that there were only 4 categories in all
Tom

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> Just did it last week still 692 and the score sheet show HDLC I did not
even
> come across it.
>
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> Subject: CIT/Support passing score? Still around 692?
>
>
> Anyone taken it recently and care to share? I saw several postings in
> the archives that mention 692, but they were from last year.
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Re: intercept and redirect

2001-03-23 Thread Allen May

OK some people are taking this 'PIX doesn't route. period.' thing too far.
No it's not a router, yes it has a routing table.  What does that have to do
with this anyway?

You don't need a router to do this.  It's not adding a new subnet or
anything, just redirecting to an existing host.  If it couldn't permit/deny
or VIP address to specific hosts or subnets, it wouldn't be anything at all
but a boat anchor.

However I just realized something, if host B isn't behind the firewall, you
can't do it with just a PIX.  Best you could do is change the DNS entries in
that scenario.  Where is this host B?  If you're trying to forward a URL,
try setting up a forward page on the existing box perhaps?  Is it ALL
traffic to a specific IP?

Allen

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> PIX, by itself doesn't route. It won't work.
>
> "Doug Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I've had a request to have our Pix firewall catch inbound traffic headed
> > for host A and redirect it to host B. We do not have NAT enabled on the
> Pix
> > (ver 5.1).
> >
> > Am I missing something? I don't see a way to do this.
> >
> >
> > Doug
> > ==
> > "There are a lot of interesting people here, a pretty high concentration
> of
> > creative, interesting, smart people. You just have to make an effort to
> > group them together, because they're interspersed with a lot of morons."
> >
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ISDN: Correlation between SPID and switch type?

2001-03-23 Thread Daniel Cotts

Does anyone know if there is a correlation between the trailing ones and
zeros on a SPID and the ISDN switch type?
Locally we use switch type basic-dms100. SPIDs end with 0101.
I set up a site that used basic-ni1. Its SPIDS ended with 0100.
It may be that I am asking the wrong question. A more generic question is -
what is the meaning of those trailing ones and zeros? If you can cite a
reference, I'd appreciate it. TIA
I've already looked through two BCRAN books, CCIE Lab Study Guide, Giles,
Uyless Black, and others. 

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Re: can't ping the internet through pix

2001-03-23 Thread Alex Lee

Are you able to point your web browser to any URL ?

Alex Lee


""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> As i mentioned below
>
> > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> > command so that i can ping in and out of the firewall...
>
> The tricky part is...i can ping from the internal network 192.168.1.x to
the
> router (which is through the firewall)...i can't ping anything past the
> router...
>
>
>
>
> ""Aidan Manning"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 99ftm7$og7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99ftm7$og7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Is there firewall software running?
> > If so have you rules that are disabling ICMP?
> >
> > ""Brent Ulfig"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > 99fq63$5no$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99fq63$5no$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I've got an unusual problem with my PIX 515.
> > >
> > > I've configured the inside interface correctly, and can ping hosts on
> the
> > > internal network.  I've configured the outside interface correctly (as
> far
> > > as ip addresses go) and can ping anywhere on the internet.
> > >
> > > I've configured the router (to the internet) as the default route of
the
> > > pix...and the pix as the default gateway of the hosts on the internal
> > > network.
> > >
> > > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> > > command so that i can ping in and out of the firewall...
> > >
> > > When I try to ping anywhere on the internet from the firewall it
> > > works...also when i try to ping the internal network it works...
> > >
> > > When i try to ping the pix from a host it works...when i try to ping
the
> > > router (to the internet) from a host it works...(meaning it goes
through
> > the
> > > pix to the router fine)
> > >
> > > however, when i try to ping anywhere on the internet (including the
next
> > hop
> > > from the router) it doesn't work...i can't get passed the router...it
> just
> > > dead ends there...
> > >
> > > i checked to make sure that the subnet mask on the pix is right...and
> its
> > > fine...
> > >
> > > any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Brent
> > > CCNP, CCDA, MCSE, MCP+I, etc.
> > >
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Re: [ARP over Token Ring]

2001-03-23 Thread EA Louie

Thanks, John (and Tim, who sent me the actual PDF file last night)

-e-

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> Yep, here ya go!  It's pretty good.
>
> http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf
>
> >>> "EA LOUIE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/22/01 5:24:31 PM >>>
> John - is that a publicly accessible paper?
>
> -e-
>
> "John Neiberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm reading through Lou Rossi's token ring paper and read something
> that
> > is ponderous.  Over ethernet, an ARP request is broadcast but the
> reply
> > is unicast.   In this paper (p. 4) there is a scenario where two
> hosts
> > are separated by two bridges and a ring.  Host A wants to transmit
> to
> > Host B so it ARPs for B's MAC address.
> >
> > Now, the paper mentions that after the ARP reply, A knows the MAC
> > address of B but not the location.  My question is this:  is an ARP
> > reply over token ring unicast or broadcast?  If it's unicast then
> how
> > did B send the response to A?  Wouldn't it have to send an explorer
> > packet first to find the path to A?
> >
> > It seems to me that this is the process:
> >
> > A wants to say hi to B
> > A sends an ARP request (broadcast) to B
> > B receives request and wants to send unicast response to A
> > B sends a local explorer for A  (no response)
> > B sends an all-routes explorer for A (gets a response)
> > B sends a unicast ARP reply to A
> >
> > Is that right?  If that's the case, then here's what I gather
> happens
> > next:
> >
> > A now has B's MAC address
> > A sends a local explorer for B (no response)
> > A sends an all-routes explorer for B (gets a response)
> > A proceeds to transmit data to B
> >
> > Here's what doesn't make sense to me.  If B had to know the path to
> A
> > to send an ARP reply, why doesn't A just take the data in the RIF
> from
> > that reply to figure out the reverse path back to B?  Why waste time
> > with explorer packets when it was just given the path in the ARP
> > reply??
> >
> > Or, do ARP requests/replies even have RIFs?  If not, are they all
> > broadcast in token ring?
> >
> > Can you tell I'm just starting out studying token ring and SRB?  
> >
> > Thanks as usual!
> >
> > John
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Re: trunking

2001-03-23 Thread Chris Haller

ISL Trunking is Cisco Proprieitary and is the perfered
method if used within a completely Cisco switched
fabric.  802.1q is the IEEE standard trunking
protocol.

The difference between the 2 is this ...

ISL actually encapsulates the frames traversing the
Trunk, which is to say it packages the VLAN
information within another packet extending the frame
size to 1522 and in a Cisco Switched Fabric, reacts
faster than 802.1q because it does not carry the same
load enabling 802.1q to be a standard trunking
protocol.

802.1q simply adds information to the existing frame
as it travels through the trunk.  You would use 802.1q
if you had a mixed vendor switched fabric.

HTH


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> 
> What are the differences between isl and 802.1q
> trunking.  If I'm in a total
> cisco switched environment,  should I always use
> isl?  What would be a good
> reason to use 802.1q?  Which one is more favored
> over the other?
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> 
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CCIE written pass score

2001-03-23 Thread Mantiz

Does anyone know what the current passing score for the CCIE written exam
is?

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Re: Route filtering - somewhat long

2001-03-23 Thread Kevin Wigle

yep, that's a twist on Curtis' post and I will add that to the game! (using
two eigrps as well as two ospf)

thanks

Kevin Wigle

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Subject: Re: Route filtering - somewhat long


> Okay, I'm going to throw out a SWAG here, but it might violate the rules
> of the scenario.
>
> On routerE use two different OSPF processes.  In process 1, add the
> network statement for the D-E link.  In process 2, add the network
> statement for the C-E link.  Do not add a network statement for the two
> networks on the ethernet interface.
>
> If you have a recent IOS version on E,  use two separate eigrp
> processes, one for each network on the ethernet interface, which
> requires the ability to add a mask in the network statement.
>
> Assuming 144.226.10.0 is in eigrp 1, redistribute eigrp 1 to the
> appropriate ospf process and filter out 144.226.20.0.  Redistribute
> eigrp 2 to the other ospf process and filter out 144.226.10.0.
>
> To be honest, I have NO idea if that will even work.  It's still pretty
> early and I didn't really think about it too much.  It's a bummer that I
> don't have five routers lying around or I'd set this up too.
>
> John
>
> >>> "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 8:25:39 AM >>>
> Dear Group,
>
> I have an interesting scenario I'm trying to mock up in the lab and
> getting
> nowhere fast.
>
> I'm not good at ascii art so I'll try to describe the setup.
>
> Imagine a core network with 4 routers, put them in a square, from the
> top
> left clockwise, routerA, routerB, routerC, routerD.
>
> These routers are connected in a full mesh and OSPF is configured.
>
> Each router of course is in Area 0 but each router also has another
> area.
>
> routerA - 1005
> routerB - 1010
> routerC - 1015
> routerD - 1020
>
> There is a fifth router at the bottom - routerE, connecting to routerC
> and
> routerD with equal cost circuits using point-to-point addresses.
>
> These transit routes are configured into OSPF, each network into the
> same
> area as the core router where it terminates.
>
> On a third ( Ethernet ) interface on routerE there are two networks,
> one as
> primary and one as secondary. Let's use: primary 142.226.10.0 and
> secondary:
> 142.226.20.0
>
> Policy routing has been configured to allow the prime network out the
> routerE-routerD circuit and the secondary network has been configured
> to go
> out the routerE-routerC circuit.
>
> EIGRP has been configured for the networks on the inside of routerE and
> is
> redistributed into OSPF with no auto-summary.
>
> Now, when on either routerA or routerB, the inside routes are in the
> routing
> table as available through both routers.
>
> Objective.
>
> Have 142.226.10.0 only advertised out routerE-routerD
>
> and 142.226.20.0 only advertised out routerE-routerC
>
> Discussion.
>
> I have been reading madly about distribute lists and route-maps.  It
> all
> reads so simply but I think this particular situation is interesting
> because
> of the two networks on one interface.
>
> OSPF cannot use a distribute list and use the interface command (would
> have
> been perfect).
>
> OSPF cannot filter incoming updates (which would have been great on
> routerC
> and routerD).
>
> On the face of it this "seems" so simple - but - I'm stuck.
>
> Any ideas welcome.
>
> tia
>
> Kevin Wigle
>
> Using access-lists on the egress ports don't seem to do it either.
>
>
>
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Re: Route filtering - somewhat long

2001-03-23 Thread Kevin Wigle

Yes, I looked into router-maps for the policy routing bit and I'm just
reading more about using them for redistribution...

Two different OSPF process - sounds interesting.. will take that
idea to the lab now.

thanks

Kevin Wigle

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From: "Curtis Call" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Route filtering - somewhat long


> You might want to look into using a route map to specify to only allow
each
> network into one particular area.  If you can't get that to work then you
> could try using different ospf processes on the router one for 1015 and
one
> for 1020, and once again use a route-map to specify which networks to
> allow.  That way area 1015 will only have an LSA 5 for 142.226.20.0 and
> area 1020 will only have an
> LSA 5 for 142.226.10.0
>
>
>
> At 08:25 AM 3/23/01, you wrote:
> >Dear Group,
> >
> >I have an interesting scenario I'm trying to mock up in the lab and
getting
> >nowhere fast.
> >
> >I'm not good at ascii art so I'll try to describe the setup.
> >
> >Imagine a core network with 4 routers, put them in a square, from the top
> >left clockwise, routerA, routerB, routerC, routerD.
> >
> >These routers are connected in a full mesh and OSPF is configured.
> >
> >Each router of course is in Area 0 but each router also has another area.
> >
> >routerA - 1005
> >routerB - 1010
> >routerC - 1015
> >routerD - 1020
> >
> >There is a fifth router at the bottom - routerE, connecting to routerC
and
> >routerD with equal cost circuits using point-to-point addresses.
> >
> >These transit routes are configured into OSPF, each network into the same
> >area as the core router where it terminates.
> >
> >On a third ( Ethernet ) interface on routerE there are two networks, one
as
> >primary and one as secondary. Let's use: primary 142.226.10.0 and
secondary:
> >142.226.20.0
> >
> >Policy routing has been configured to allow the prime network out the
> >routerE-routerD circuit and the secondary network has been configured to
go
> >out the routerE-routerC circuit.
> >
> >EIGRP has been configured for the networks on the inside of routerE and
is
> >redistributed into OSPF with no auto-summary.
> >
> >Now, when on either routerA or routerB, the inside routes are in the
routing
> >table as available through both routers.
> >
> >Objective.
> >
> >Have 142.226.10.0 only advertised out routerE-routerD
> >
> >and 142.226.20.0 only advertised out routerE-routerC
> >
> >Discussion.
> >
> >I have been reading madly about distribute lists and route-maps.  It all
> >reads so simply but I think this particular situation is interesting
because
> >of the two networks on one interface.
> >
> >OSPF cannot use a distribute list and use the interface command (would
have
> >been perfect).
> >
> >OSPF cannot filter incoming updates (which would have been great on
routerC
> >and routerD).
> >
> >On the face of it this "seems" so simple - but - I'm stuck.
> >
> >Any ideas welcome.
> >
> >tia
> >
> >Kevin Wigle
> >
> >Using access-lists on the egress ports don't seem to do it either.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Route filtering - somewhat long

2001-03-23 Thread John Neiberger

Okay, I'm going to throw out a SWAG here, but it might violate the rules
of the scenario.

On routerE use two different OSPF processes.  In process 1, add the
network statement for the D-E link.  In process 2, add the network
statement for the C-E link.  Do not add a network statement for the two
networks on the ethernet interface.

If you have a recent IOS version on E,  use two separate eigrp
processes, one for each network on the ethernet interface, which
requires the ability to add a mask in the network statement.  

Assuming 144.226.10.0 is in eigrp 1, redistribute eigrp 1 to the
appropriate ospf process and filter out 144.226.20.0.  Redistribute
eigrp 2 to the other ospf process and filter out 144.226.10.0.

To be honest, I have NO idea if that will even work.  It's still pretty
early and I didn't really think about it too much.  It's a bummer that I
don't have five routers lying around or I'd set this up too.

John

>>> "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 8:25:39 AM >>>
Dear Group,

I have an interesting scenario I'm trying to mock up in the lab and
getting
nowhere fast.

I'm not good at ascii art so I'll try to describe the setup.

Imagine a core network with 4 routers, put them in a square, from the
top
left clockwise, routerA, routerB, routerC, routerD.

These routers are connected in a full mesh and OSPF is configured.

Each router of course is in Area 0 but each router also has another
area.

routerA - 1005
routerB - 1010
routerC - 1015
routerD - 1020

There is a fifth router at the bottom - routerE, connecting to routerC
and
routerD with equal cost circuits using point-to-point addresses.

These transit routes are configured into OSPF, each network into the
same
area as the core router where it terminates.

On a third ( Ethernet ) interface on routerE there are two networks,
one as
primary and one as secondary. Let's use: primary 142.226.10.0 and
secondary:
142.226.20.0

Policy routing has been configured to allow the prime network out the
routerE-routerD circuit and the secondary network has been configured
to go
out the routerE-routerC circuit.

EIGRP has been configured for the networks on the inside of routerE and
is
redistributed into OSPF with no auto-summary.

Now, when on either routerA or routerB, the inside routes are in the
routing
table as available through both routers.

Objective.

Have 142.226.10.0 only advertised out routerE-routerD

and 142.226.20.0 only advertised out routerE-routerC

Discussion.

I have been reading madly about distribute lists and route-maps.  It
all
reads so simply but I think this particular situation is interesting
because
of the two networks on one interface.

OSPF cannot use a distribute list and use the interface command (would
have
been perfect).

OSPF cannot filter incoming updates (which would have been great on
routerC
and routerD).

On the face of it this "seems" so simple - but - I'm stuck.

Any ideas welcome.

tia

Kevin Wigle

Using access-lists on the egress ports don't seem to do it either.



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2001-03-23 Thread James Wilson

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Re: [Critical] GBIC over MMF...

2001-03-23 Thread Jeff Groman

I find it interesting that you haven't had luck with MMF and LX GBICs.
We've had no trouble with them here, and we've deployed them in multiple
areas using 6509's.

Jeff


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Well, the 500m limitation is not necessarily true, but there may be other
issues involved.

Here's what I do in this situation:

Typically, you would use SX GBICs with MMF.  The transmitter on an SX GBIC
is an LED, which can energize all of the modes within the MMF, whereas the
transmitter in an LX GBIC is a laser, which is typically only used on SMF.
This works as the laser is concentrated as compared to the spread-out nature
of the LED.  Single-mode pairs with a single (laser) "wave" of light and
multi-mode pairs with distributed (LED) light "waves".  As a result of this
division of technology, the LX (also called a long-haul) GBIC can transmit
data over a much greater distance than an SX version.

Now to the issue:

Despite popular belief, you can use MMF with LX GBICs.  The catch is that
you must use a special cable to connect the MMF to the LX GBIC.  This
special patch cable is called a "conditioning cable".  This cable basically
uses a SMF strand on the transmit side and an MMF strand on the receive
side, and will distribute the laser transmit evenly over the mulitiple modes
of the MMF.  The end result is a much greater transmission distance over
MMF.

Cisco claims that you can directly plug MMF into an LX GBIC, but I have not
had any success doing so without the conditioning cables.  Cisco does sell
this cable, but only with a single connector configuration.  If you need
different connectors, nearly all of the fiber optic cable vendors can supply
these.  Be warned - these cables are expensive, but when compared to
replacing all of your fiber with SMF, the cost is negligible.

Here's a URL describing the cables and why you need them.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/cnfg_nts/etherne
t/5421_01.htm

Rik

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> remote distribution switch over MMF.
>
> But distance is the problem. Distance between Cat 4003 and Cat 2948G-L3 is
> about over 600m using MMF.
>
> I know that distance limitation of MMF is 500m and so I need the solution
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RE: Anyone tried setting up a Linux TFTP Server for Cisco?

2001-03-23 Thread Jeff Groman

We use HP-UX for tftp and it works great.

Jeff



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On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Brian Kimsey-Hickman wrote:

> Re: Anyone tried setting up a Linux TFTP Server for Cisco?Thanks, for
> everyone who replied.  I didn't mean to start a Linux versus Microsoft
> controversy but that is okay.  I think they are valuable discussions.  I did
> read in the Cisco literature that the Windows base tftp servers are limited
> to 16 MB and the Linux/Unix versions are not.  Since flash images are fast
> approaching that size I thought I would start getting prepared.  Whether or
> not that is actually true, I don't know.  Thanks, Alan your suggestions did
> the trick.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>   -Original Message-
>
>From: Elijah Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:17 AM
>   To: W. Alan Robertson; Brian Kimsey-Hickman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: RE: Anyone tried setting up a Linux TFTP Server for Cisco?
>
>
>   I know its off topic, but I hate such narrow minded comments...
>   > If you have ever installed any *ix system, you'd be darn well
>   > aware that the thing isw  i  d  e   open.  There is almost
>   > no security there.  It has to be added and maintained.  Win32
>   > systems are similar.  Very trusting and friendly until they are
>   > properly taken care of.  Is *ix inherently more secure?  no way.
>
>
>   No holy war here either. But I could not resist the reply to this comment.
> Of course it depends on the administrator of the box, but it depends also
> how you install it. I have never installed a linux box with ftp or telnet by
> default(openssh). Because these boxes I setup are usually dns or web servers
> you can install them so that they run in a chrooted environments which tends
> to be a tad bit more secure. This is one reason I like nix over any win
> platform because I can install what I want and how I want it, which usually
> makes a nix box more secure than any win platform. So to me how I stated
> above nix is more secure, but of course you have to know what you are doing.
> You probably will say well this is not a base install. And my reply is well
> if you do a custom install which you can do right out of the box without
> recompiling the kernel or anything fancy nix will me more secure than win32
> platforms out of the box. I would like to see a custom install on win32
> instead of click here to continue.
>
>   I challenge anyone to make a valid, non-ideological based
>   > comparison of a base Win32 and a base Liux install.  If Linux
>   > were so damned secure in its current state, I woulnd't see IDS
>   > logs filling up with folks scanning for obvious Linux vulns, now
>   > would I?  Bottom dollar is, without proper administration, both
>   > Win32 and *ix suck big time.  With proper care and feeding, they
>   > can both become releatively secure.
>   >
>
>   You are seeing IDS logs filling up due to the fact that most script
> kiddies out there are learning nix and what vulnerabilities are associated
> with it. And from my years of experience and dealing with these individuals
> it is more of a challenge for them, like a notch in their belt if they
> compromise a nix box rather than a win32 platform. They will be readily
> accepted by their peers if this is accomplished and shunned away for saying
> hey I cracked a nt server. Due to the fact and the latest security survey (I
> can't remeber right off hand by whom) that show due to the recent influx of
> MCSE certified individuals that lack experience on securing these boxes that
> get broken into its not a challenge to them any more. It showed there were a
> very high number of individuals out there that did not even have the known
> IIS patch applied. I am not knocking MCSE individuals here because I myself
> am a MCSE+I we all have to start some where. But there are more individuals
> out there in the industry with NT boxes than there are with Unix boxes under
> their control.
>   If you ask me this is some of the reason why you see so many entries in
> your log for nix vulnerabilities than you do for the win32 platform.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: W. Alan Robertson
> Sent: Thu 3/22/2001 10:23 AM
> To: Brian Kimsey-Hickman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: Anyone tried setting up a Linux TFTP Server for Cisco?
>
>
> Rather than get into a Holy War about why Linux is better than Windows,
> I
> figured I'd just answer your question.
>
> in.tftpd doesn't constantly run like other processes, like a http
> server, as an
> example.
>
> in.tftpd is typically started as needed, and terminated when finished.
> The
> controlling process is inetd.  The configuration file for inetd can be
> found at
> '/etc/inetd.conf'.
>
> Edit that file...
>
> Scroll down to a line that reads like this (the exact line varies by
> Linux
> distribution)

Re: trunking (fwd)

2001-03-23 Thread Jeff Groman

I believe the main difference is that ISL supports per-VLAN Spanning Tree,
and 802.1q does not.

Jeff



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On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Lopez, Robert wrote:

>
> What are the differences between isl and 802.1q trunking.  If I'm in a total
> cisco switched environment,  should I always use isl?  What would be a good
> reason to use 802.1q?  Which one is more favored over the other?
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> Robert M. Lopez
> Network Planning
> Ann Arbor Data Center
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Re: Route filtering - somewhat long

2001-03-23 Thread Curtis Call

You might want to look into using a route map to specify to only allow each 
network into one particular area.  If you can't get that to work then you 
could try using different ospf processes on the router one for 1015 and one 
for 1020, and once again use a route-map to specify which networks to 
allow.  That way area 1015 will only have an LSA 5 for 142.226.20.0 and 
area 1020 will only have an
LSA 5 for 142.226.10.0



At 08:25 AM 3/23/01, you wrote:
>Dear Group,
>
>I have an interesting scenario I'm trying to mock up in the lab and getting
>nowhere fast.
>
>I'm not good at ascii art so I'll try to describe the setup.
>
>Imagine a core network with 4 routers, put them in a square, from the top
>left clockwise, routerA, routerB, routerC, routerD.
>
>These routers are connected in a full mesh and OSPF is configured.
>
>Each router of course is in Area 0 but each router also has another area.
>
>routerA - 1005
>routerB - 1010
>routerC - 1015
>routerD - 1020
>
>There is a fifth router at the bottom - routerE, connecting to routerC and
>routerD with equal cost circuits using point-to-point addresses.
>
>These transit routes are configured into OSPF, each network into the same
>area as the core router where it terminates.
>
>On a third ( Ethernet ) interface on routerE there are two networks, one as
>primary and one as secondary. Let's use: primary 142.226.10.0 and secondary:
>142.226.20.0
>
>Policy routing has been configured to allow the prime network out the
>routerE-routerD circuit and the secondary network has been configured to go
>out the routerE-routerC circuit.
>
>EIGRP has been configured for the networks on the inside of routerE and is
>redistributed into OSPF with no auto-summary.
>
>Now, when on either routerA or routerB, the inside routes are in the routing
>table as available through both routers.
>
>Objective.
>
>Have 142.226.10.0 only advertised out routerE-routerD
>
>and 142.226.20.0 only advertised out routerE-routerC
>
>Discussion.
>
>I have been reading madly about distribute lists and route-maps.  It all
>reads so simply but I think this particular situation is interesting because
>of the two networks on one interface.
>
>OSPF cannot use a distribute list and use the interface command (would have
>been perfect).
>
>OSPF cannot filter incoming updates (which would have been great on routerC
>and routerD).
>
>On the face of it this "seems" so simple - but - I'm stuck.
>
>Any ideas welcome.
>
>tia
>
>Kevin Wigle
>
>Using access-lists on the egress ports don't seem to do it either.
>
>
>
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Fast-switched policy routing forwarding table entries..

2001-03-23 Thread Curtis Phillips

Hello,

Does anyone know if source-based policy-routing entries are entered
in the cache in the form of   or  or ? 

What I am trying to establish is whether a seperate route table look up is performed 
for every unique source-destination pair, or whether since it is source-base policy 
routed, is simply does a single route table look up 
and uses the cached entry for every packet initiated from the same source?


Thanks,

Curtis

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proxy arp cisco pix 506

2001-03-23 Thread Christopher Kolp

Does the Cisco PIX 506 support Proxy ARP?

Also, does anyone have any experience
with it? Good or bad?

Sincerely,

Chris Kolp, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Neuron Broadcasting Technologies

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Re: can't ping the internet through pix

2001-03-23 Thread Brent Ulfig

As i mentioned below

> I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> command so that i can ping in and out of the firewall...

The tricky part is...i can ping from the internal network 192.168.1.x to the
router (which is through the firewall)...i can't ping anything past the
router...




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> >
> > I've configured the inside interface correctly, and can ping hosts on
the
> > internal network.  I've configured the outside interface correctly (as
far
> > as ip addresses go) and can ping anywhere on the internet.
> >
> > I've configured the router (to the internet) as the default route of the
> > pix...and the pix as the default gateway of the hosts on the internal
> > network.
> >
> > I've also used the  conduit permit icmp any any
> > command so that i can ping in and out of the firewall...
> >
> > When I try to ping anywhere on the internet from the firewall it
> > works...also when i try to ping the internal network it works...
> >
> > When i try to ping the pix from a host it works...when i try to ping the
> > router (to the internet) from a host it works...(meaning it goes through
> the
> > pix to the router fine)
> >
> > however, when i try to ping anywhere on the internet (including the next
> hop
> > from the router) it doesn't work...i can't get passed the router...it
just
> > dead ends there...
> >
> > i checked to make sure that the subnet mask on the pix is right...and
its
> > fine...
> >
> > any ideas?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brent
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RE: trunking

2001-03-23 Thread Lopez, Robert


John,

Thanks for your insight. It looks like I will go ahead and plan a conversion
to 802.1q  I heard that ip telephony will not support isl as well.  thanks
again!

Robert
-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: trunking


As you know, 802.1q is a standard while ISL is proprietary.  If you need
interoperability, go with 802.1q.  Even if you're all Cisco, some of
Cisco's stuff doesn't support ISL.  I say use whatever is available and
works for you, keeping in mind that reconfiguration in the future will
be necessary if you change trunk types.  If that's not a big deal, I
wouldn't worry about it.  If it will cause a horrendous headache to have
those trunks down for a minute or two while you reconfigure, then think
toward the future and pick 802.1q.  

I have noticed a configuration difference between the two.  It was
supposedly fixed in IOS 12.1(2), I think, but I've noticed this in
12.1(5) still.  When using ISL, all of your VLANs are placed on
subinterfaces on the router.  This is because all frames coming across
that trunk have an ISL tag for VLAN determination.

In 802.1q, the native VLAN (VLAN 1 by default) is not tagged so you
have to place the configuration for that VLAN on the major interface. 
All other VLANs would be on subinterfaces.  

Regards,
John

>>> "Lopez, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/23/01 7:57:24 AM >>>

What are the differences between isl and 802.1q trunking.  If I'm in a
total
cisco switched environment,  should I always use isl?  What would be a
good
reason to use 802.1q?  Which one is more favored over the other?

Robert



Robert M. Lopez   
Network Planning
Ann Arbor Data Center
Pfizer Global Research & Development



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Route filtering - somewhat long

2001-03-23 Thread Kevin Wigle

Dear Group,

I have an interesting scenario I'm trying to mock up in the lab and getting
nowhere fast.

I'm not good at ascii art so I'll try to describe the setup.

Imagine a core network with 4 routers, put them in a square, from the top
left clockwise, routerA, routerB, routerC, routerD.

These routers are connected in a full mesh and OSPF is configured.

Each router of course is in Area 0 but each router also has another area.

routerA - 1005
routerB - 1010
routerC - 1015
routerD - 1020

There is a fifth router at the bottom - routerE, connecting to routerC and
routerD with equal cost circuits using point-to-point addresses.

These transit routes are configured into OSPF, each network into the same
area as the core router where it terminates.

On a third ( Ethernet ) interface on routerE there are two networks, one as
primary and one as secondary. Let's use: primary 142.226.10.0 and secondary:
142.226.20.0

Policy routing has been configured to allow the prime network out the
routerE-routerD circuit and the secondary network has been configured to go
out the routerE-routerC circuit.

EIGRP has been configured for the networks on the inside of routerE and is
redistributed into OSPF with no auto-summary.

Now, when on either routerA or routerB, the inside routes are in the routing
table as available through both routers.

Objective.

Have 142.226.10.0 only advertised out routerE-routerD

and 142.226.20.0 only advertised out routerE-routerC

Discussion.

I have been reading madly about distribute lists and route-maps.  It all
reads so simply but I think this particular situation is interesting because
of the two networks on one interface.

OSPF cannot use a distribute list and use the interface command (would have
been perfect).

OSPF cannot filter incoming updates (which would have been great on routerC
and routerD).

On the face of it this "seems" so simple - but - I'm stuck.

Any ideas welcome.

tia

Kevin Wigle

Using access-lists on the egress ports don't seem to do it either.



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