what wrong with the access-list?? [7:1825]

2001-04-24 Thread Sim, CT (Chee Tong)

Hello, 
1)I wanted to create a named IP access-list , then I used the following
command at the first step.  But it prompt me with error.  What's wrong? 

sin-net#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
sin-net(config)#ip access-list extended Binternet
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.


2)Take a look below
sin-net(config)#access-list 201 permit tcp host 100.100.100.100 host
100.100.100.101 eq any

anything wrong with this?  if I want to block every TCP connection from
100.100.100.100 to 100.100.100.101 regardless the port what should I do?

if I want to block every connection 100.100.100.100 to 100.100.100.101
regardless it it tcp, udp and etc What should I do?


3)I have a internet router with one ethernet0 int's IP 100.100.100.101 and a
serial IP unumbered to ethernet0, I have a firewall which connect to
ethernet0 of the router with IP 100.100.100.100. I want to disallow other
from internet cannot ping my router ethernet only 100.100.100.100 can
100.100.100.101(ethernet0) what should I do?  Can I do the the following? As
I know access-list work only for packet passing thru the router but the
destination is the router's ethernet IP. Can it works? and which interface
should I apply the access-list actually serial or ethernet? since serial is
unumbered to ethernet int  

Router(config)#access-list 101 permit icmp 100.100.100.100 100.100.100.101
Router(config)#int eth0
Router(config-if)ip access-group 101 out  

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Re: Cisco Documentation CD [7:1802]

2001-04-24 Thread Alexander Roth

yes try this,

open the search.ini file under CiscoCD dir,
find this line
Browser=C:\Progra~1\INTERN~1\iexplorer.exe
change to
Browser=
then save

open the search.ini file under CiscoCD dir,
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Re: Just Pass CIT and become CCNP certified, but .. [7:1677]

2001-04-24 Thread ryan

Thanks for your reply!!
I totally agree with your options .


Ryan

""Priscilla Oppenheimer""   It takes analytical skills to categorize and
outline topics. It also
> requires an ability to think in a non-linear, hierarchical fashion. (I've
> seen really bad outlines from author wannabes where every topic was at the
> same level.) Cisco appears to have a person who lacks these skills
> categorizing topics for some of the tests, especially CCNA and Support. My
> other theory is that they have a computer doing it. (Or maybe monkeys! ;-)
>
> Just be glad you passed. Congratulations! The key for those of you still
> trying to pass and learn about the tests: Do not use the test outlines.
Use
> the course outline for the instructor-led training.
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 10:54 PM 4/23/01, ryan wrote:
> >Can anyone tell me what is chapter(s) in cisco press book  belonged to
the
> >following categories which appear in my score sheet ? Thanks
> >
> >Category in my score sheet:
> >---
> >Connectionless Models (33%)
> >HDLC (75%)
> >OSI backups (100%)
> >Troubeshooting (71%)
> >
> >
> >Cisco press Chapter:
> >
> >Chapter 1 Support Resources for Troubleshooting
> >Chapter 2 Understanding Troubleshooting Methods
> >Chapter 3 Identifying Troubleshooting Targets
> >Chapter 4 Applying Cisco Troubleshooting Tools
> >Chapter 5 Diagnosing and Correcting Campus TCP/IP Problems
> >Chapter 6 Diagnosing and Correcting Novell Networking Problems
> >Chapter 7 Diagnosing and Correcting AppleTalk Problems
> >Chapter 8 Diagnosing and Correcting Catalyst Problems
> >Chapter 9 Troubleshooting VLANS on Routers and Switches
> >Chapter 10 Diagnosing and Correcting Frame Relay Problems
> >Chapter 11 Diagnosing and Correcting ISDN BRI Problems
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IP routing is enabled by default on Cisco 2600's [7:1821]

2001-04-24 Thread Colin

Hi

I have read in numerous places that IP routing is enabled by default on
Cisco routers.  Is this is true?   The reason I ask is because the last
3 Cisco 2600's I've received (new routers straight from a VAR)  have
had  IP routing disabled?

Thanks

Colin




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Syslogd for Windows 2000 !!! [7:1820]

2001-04-24 Thread Sameh Badros

Where I can get syslogd for windows 2000 ?
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IP-Spoof! [7:1819]

2001-04-24 Thread Jitendra Joshi

Hello Friends,
Here is the attachment.

regrds,
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IP-Spoof! [7:1818]

2001-04-24 Thread Jitendra Joshi

Hello Friends,
I need some help regarding the scenrio in the ppt,
which I am sendiing as an attachement, forgive me for
the attachment. Thank you all in advance.

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Re: Failed CCDA [7:1698]

2001-04-24 Thread Jason J. Roysdon

Study up and I'm sure you'll have it the next time.

Regarding the age thing, experience (not just knowledge) is often a factor.
Plus, what says you're not going to leave them as soon as you're able to
work full time?  More than likely this other employee isn't going to leave
as fast.

Don't worry, in a short while you'll have some years of "experience" under
your belt as well (often "experience" isn't seen just as knowledge or hands
on experience, but as years in the trenches).  Just keep at it, set your
goals and stick to them.  I'd also talk with your manager and see if they
see value to certs, and if so if you can work it into a way to get raises.

But when you think about it, most likely the CCDA doesn't hold that much
value at your current position, whereas a CCNA and CCNP would be seen as an
asset at an ISP (unless you're out selling design solutions to customers
like Howard, where it'd make more sense).

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> I too am only 17 years old and like Priscilla I think this is a
> controversial topic. However, I have a very strong opinion, therefore am
> going to express it. :-) I currently work for an local ISP and have quite
a
> bit of Cisco experience along with very much UNIX (BSDi, Linux, HP-UX,
> Solaris), HTML, JavaScript, ASP, PERL, etc etc. However, I make
> significantly less that a new guy that was hired to work along with me. I
am
> just as qualified, if not more. Of course, there are other issues to
> consider; I am part-time and he is full time, I know that makes a
> difference, that part I understand. But, I feel that a large portion of it
> has to do with my age, not based on my ability to perform my job.
>
> On a Cisco related note, I am going to schedule my CCDA exam within the
next
> month, along with my CCNA. I am very confident that I will do good on my
> CCNA, and have been studying CCDA material and getting some real-life
> experience in my job.
>
> The message I am trying to point out is that just because we may be young
> doesn't mean that we should not be taken seriously. Also, I know that my
age
> also offends some people who have been in the field a long time. I can't
> really speak from expeirence here, but I know that more women have choosen
> careers in the Technology field in the past 10 years. Just as their
> co-workers have come to accept it more, they are going to have to accept
> that us young adults can be capable of doing the same job.
>
> -Russ
>
>
>
>
>
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> Priscilla Oppenheimer
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>
>
> I'm going to say something Very controversial here, which is that I think
> it's a good sign that a 17-year old had a hard time with the CCDA test. It
> validates the test a bit. Design requires experience. Can someone who has
> just learned to drive, design a car? Can someone who has just started
> learning networking, design a network?
>
> Remember that I teach (part-time) at the high school level and I love the
> energy, quick thinking, and creativity of that age group. I strongly
> believe that the inventions that they will develop will be even more
> amazing than the ones our generation came up with. So I do not make this
> comment out of prejudice.
>
> Aaron, it sounds like you know which areas you need to study a bit more in
> order to pass the test, so I'm sure you'll do well next time. Good luck!
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 09:02 AM 4/24/01, you wrote:
> >Hey guys, this is Aaron again.  I failed my CCDA by 37 points.  I made a
> 718
> >and i needed a 755 to pass  Bah, out 100$..  I did rescedule it for a
> >couple of weeks from now, and now that i know what sections i'm weak in,
i
> >think i might be able to make this up.  My worst section was WAN
> >Technologies with a 40%.  My best was Network Management with a 100%.  So
i
> >guess i had quite a range of scores.  Anyways, back to the books and
sample
> >tests for me.  Thanks guys.
> >
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Re: Reverse Telnet [7:1800]

2001-04-24 Thread Circusnuts

Clear line, sho session, IP host ???  Am I on the same page ???

Phil

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To: 
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Subject: Re: Reverse Telnet [7:1800]


> line vty 0 4
> password ???
> login
>
>
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> > Im having a little problem with reverse telnet
> >
> > i have rollover cable from aux0 on router1 to con0 on router2
> >
> > Router1/aux0 has
> > transport input all
> > password cisco
> > login
> >
> > Router2/Con0 has
> > password cisco
> > login
> >
> > loopback 0
> > ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255
> >
> > when i telnet to 1.1.1.1 2001 for a long time it will say that remote
> > refused connection.  then all of the sudden it will work
> >
> > i dont change anything, and its not like  router2 is still coming up or
> > anything, does anyone have any ideas??
> >
> > Thanks,
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Re: Route Summarization [7:1794]

2001-04-24 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>I want to summarize three addresses within an OSPF area:
>
>10.2.1.0/24
>10.2.2.0/24
>10.2.3.0/24
>
>Converting to binary, I see the 15th bit is the highest order bit the three
>addresses have in common.  From that I see the summary address is 10.2.0.0.
>What I don't understand is why the subnet mask is 16bits.  To me it looks
>like it should be 15.
>
>Thanks,
>Steve

There's a widespread and unfortunate belief that "summarization" is 
OK if it includes a list of addresses, even if it picks up addresses 
not included in the list.  True, you can probably get away with that 
in many enterprise situations, but it can be catastrophic in the 
Internet.

As I interpret the problem, the minimum number of addresses that can 
be created from your example are:

10.2.1.0/24
10.2.2.0/23

You can't do the /22, because it would pick up 10.2.0.0/24, which 
isn't part of the list.

/15 or /16 make no sense.  Converting the third octet to binary:


10.2.0.0/2400 00
10.2.1.0/2400 01
10.2.2.0/2400 10
10.2.3.0/2400 11

^^ ^^
111222 22
789012 34




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Cisco ``News for Consultants'' Newsletter Down Since February? [7:1813]

2001-04-24 Thread John Bacalle

I had begun to think that I was dropped from the Cisco ``News for
Consultants'' newsletter, as the last ML message I got from them is from
February. So as I wrote to them a few days ago, and haven't received a
response I went to their site and poked around and found the last issue
of the list archived there dates from February. ?

I had thought that I was dropped unintentionally from the program, but
now it appears that something's amiss Cisco side. Hmmm.

   John

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network originate [7:1812]

2001-04-24 Thread Albert Zosa

Just a question. Where should i use a default originate command. or network
0.0.0.0. in bgp entries.

I have this problem because of the router was configured like that and i dont
know the reason.

thank you,

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mentor tech and global knowledge [7:1811]

2001-04-24 Thread Adam Wang

3rd day into my CID course with Mentor Tech.  The
instructor Bill McInerney, a CCIE, seem to be a
well-rounded knowledgable guy.  Good teaching skills
too.

Took a Nortel VPN class with global knowledge a few
weeks back, the instructor was not very knowledgable,
even in the security aspect (misinterpret/can't answer
a few questions).  Not well-prepared for the class
(can't find an important command because of an OS
version upgrade).

I'm planning on taking a CCIE lab course soon.  I know
the above may not be a good comparion.  Has anyone
taken Global Knowledge's CCIE lab course?  How good is
their instructing quality?  

I'm leaning toward Mentor Tech.  Bruce Caslow is
teaching the ECP1 now, and I heard other known CCIE
book writers are also teaching there.

Can anyone shed some lights on the comparison of both
CCIE lab courses?

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Re: NAT and MS Terminal Server [7:1765]

2001-04-24 Thread Jason J. Roysdon

It's not going to work with port redirection doesn't work with anything
other than tcp and udp.  You need rdp (protocol 27, not a port, but the
protocol), as well as tcp 3389 and tcp 1503.

Try it with this instead and you'll see that it should work (provided no
ACLs or firewall is blocking it):

ip nat inside source static 192.168.1.25 200.200.200.1


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> I have a MS Terminal server (Port 3389) inside a
> private subnet. I am using NAT from the router. I am
> using a Static NAT access list:
>
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.25 3389
> 200.200.200.1 3389
>
> I still can not access to the terminal server from the
> Internet. Can some one tell me what I do wrong.
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Kim.
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RE: LAST REMINDER FOR JIM KONIECKI [7:1805]

2001-04-24 Thread Kim Edward B

Why are you guys broadcasting your message to whole subnet (groupstudy)
while you can use UNICAST or MULTICAST to specific host?
Please take personal stuffs offline and stop using Broadcast.
You are wasting our resources and everyone of us has to process it ( like
broadcast)
Oh, this is going to be a broadcast message too. Sorry everyone.
Thanx.

Edward
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Hello Jim,

I hope that you still keep your promise to send me the CVOICE material as  
the trade-off for MCNS that I have sent U.

I have sent you the soft copy few months ago, but I STILL DIDN'T RECEIVE 
yours.


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Re: Route Summarization [7:1794]

2001-04-24 Thread Ray Goyette

Actually, the 22nd bit is the highest common bit.

10.2.0001.0
10.2.0010.0
10.2.0011.0

The longest summary for this would be 10.2.0.0 /22

Summarizing the range 10.2.0.0 thru 10.2.3.255

Stephen Alston wrote:

> I want to summarize three addresses within an OSPF area:
>
> 10.2.1.0/24
> 10.2.2.0/24
> 10.2.3.0/24
>
> Converting to binary, I see the 15th bit is the highest order bit the three
> addresses have in common.  From that I see the summary address is 10.2.0.0.
> What I don't understand is why the subnet mask is 16bits.  To me it looks
> like it should be 15.
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Re: Pathetic Prometric [7:1746]

2001-04-24 Thread Jason J. Roysdon

You have your stamped Prometric test results, I hope?  Please keep us
informed.  I've taken all my tests at Prometric and never had problems.

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> that my records on the Cisco tracking site did not reflect my passing of
the
> test or failing. I called Prometric today and they said that I was listed
as
> a "no show" for the test. I asked to speak to a manager that could fix
this
> problem and was put on perpetual hold. I'm at work so I can't wait on line
> forever. I got so fed up after waiting so long, I hung up. This company
> always seemed third rate to me. I plan on using VUE for testing in the
> future.
>
>  OK I'm done.
>
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RE: passed CCDA [7:1653]

2001-04-24 Thread Adam Wang

Point taken.  Thought about it again, this frustration
mainly came because I didn't document any scenario at
all.  I just did every one by a quick browse.  The
impatience added up after 30-40 questions here and
there.
Maybe meaningless, just curious what those acronyms
mean?

Adam

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> Why shouldn't they mix them up?
> Are you expecting that, in your job, you will be
> able to concentrate solely
> on one project until it is finished, and then move
> onto the next, with no
> intervening interruptions from people asking you
> basic technical questions?
> Half your luck if you can.  Most people I know work
> on several projects at
> a time, with different requirements, technical
> aspects, and politics for
> each.  And the projects usually have far more
> meaningless acronyms or names
> than the scenarios in the CCDA exam - by the time
> you have COL, COS and
> QOL, what chance have you got? :-)
> 
> JMcL
> -- Forwarded by Jenny
> Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 24/04/2001
> 09:53 am ---
> 
> 
> "Adam Wang" @groupstudy.com on 24/04/2001 08:39:34
> am
> 
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> 
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> 
> Subject:  passed CCDA [7:1653]
> 
> 
> Hi group,
> 
> Passed CCDA today.  72 question, 755 to pass, scored
> 854.  The exam itself is not too hard, but the way
> Cisco presents the scenario questions is very
> annoying.
> 
> 4 scenarios are scattered among the 72 questions.
> What I mean is you got 1 question on case 1, the
> next
> question on case 4, then some non-scenario
> questions.
> Then a case question appears again in the middle/end
> of the exam.
> 
> 
> I guess it's because of the random selections of the
> question pool.  But I feel I have been tested more
> on
> my memory than my skill of design.  I have to
> refresh
> my memory of each senario once in a while during the
> exam.
> I hope Cisco will make some change in the future:
> Randomize each scenarios, but not mix the questions
> among all other questions in the exam.
> 
> Adam
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LAST REMINDER FOR JIM KONIECKI [7:1805]

2001-04-24 Thread Grad Alfons Kanon

Hello Jim,

I hope that you still keep your promise to send me the CVOICE material as  
the trade-off for MCNS that I have sent U.

I have sent you the soft copy few months ago, but I STILL DIDN'T RECEIVE 
yours.


regards

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Re: Reverse Telnet [7:1800]

2001-04-24 Thread Jackey Xie

line vty 0 4
password ???
login


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> Im having a little problem with reverse telnet
>
> i have rollover cable from aux0 on router1 to con0 on router2
>
> Router1/aux0 has
> transport input all
> password cisco
> login
>
> Router2/Con0 has
> password cisco
> login
>
> loopback 0
> ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255
>
> when i telnet to 1.1.1.1 2001 for a long time it will say that remote
> refused connection.  then all of the sudden it will work
>
> i dont change anything, and its not like  router2 is still coming up or
> anything, does anyone have any ideas??
>
> Thanks,
> Justin M. Clark
> MCSE 4.0, MCSE 2000
> CCNA, CCDA
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Re: authentication [7:1697]

2001-04-24 Thread Jason J. Roysdon

syslog out to whatever (3Com's 3CDaemon is my fav Win32 app), and use
WebTrends to make pretty stats for you.  I believe they have a specific
version for firewalls/internet access stats.

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it
> recommended since I'm using Cisco ACS for my router authentication and VPN
> authentication.
>
> Also, what software do you recommend for logging web access on a Cisco
PIX.
> I've used WebTrend in the pass but wanted to get someone else's opinion.
>
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Cisco Documentation CD [7:1802]

2001-04-24 Thread Hoa Ngo

Hi!
I have a documentatin CD( Version April 2000). I have trouble to use it on 
windows 2000. Does anyone have problem? Can you show me the way to fix this? 
Thank you in advance.
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Re: Serial Link is flapping [7:1793]

2001-04-24 Thread Circusnuts

Can you send us the Sho log, if any.  What kind of connection is this ???
Have you checked for carrier resets under the sho interface.  Could it be
the Telco switch... or is this a local connection ???  Is this even
Frame-Relay :o)>

Phil

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:02 PM
Subject: Serial Link is flapping [7:1793]


> Hello Everybody.
>
> In my home network, one link is continuously flapping.
> I changed the cable but no luck ...
>
> I checked clock rate on DCE side and it was 64000.
>
> Please help me to remove this problem
>
> Tariq
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Reverse Telnet [7:1800]

2001-04-24 Thread Justin M. Clark

Im having a little problem with reverse telnet

i have rollover cable from aux0 on router1 to con0 on router2

Router1/aux0 has
transport input all
password cisco
login

Router2/Con0 has
password cisco
login

loopback 0
ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255

when i telnet to 1.1.1.1 2001 for a long time it will say that remote
refused connection.  then all of the sudden it will work

i dont change anything, and its not like  router2 is still coming up or
anything, does anyone have any ideas??

Thanks,
Justin M. Clark
MCSE 4.0, MCSE 2000
CCNA, CCDA
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Re: Failed CCDA [7:1698]

2001-04-24 Thread Circusnuts

When I was 17 years old (1987), I washed chili pots @ the local greasy spoon
for $3 an hour... wondering how I was going to pay for college.  My senior
worked 9 to 4 (I worked 4 to 11, sometimes 12AM), made $5 an hour, only had
the cushy lunch crowd to contend with, & left the tough pots for me.

I feel your pain.

Pay your dues & change things when you get in a position to.

Phil



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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: Failed CCDA [7:1698]


> I too am only 17 years old and like Priscilla I think this is a
> controversial topic. However, I have a very strong opinion, therefore am
> going to express it. :-) I currently work for an local ISP and have quite
a
> bit of Cisco experience along with very much UNIX (BSDi, Linux, HP-UX,
> Solaris), HTML, JavaScript, ASP, PERL, etc etc. However, I make
> significantly less that a new guy that was hired to work along with me. I
am
> just as qualified, if not more. Of course, there are other issues to
> consider; I am part-time and he is full time, I know that makes a
> difference, that part I understand. But, I feel that a large portion of it
> has to do with my age, not based on my ability to perform my job.
>
> On a Cisco related note, I am going to schedule my CCDA exam within the
next
> month, along with my CCNA. I am very confident that I will do good on my
> CCNA, and have been studying CCDA material and getting some real-life
> experience in my job.
>
> The message I am trying to point out is that just because we may be young
> doesn't mean that we should not be taken seriously. Also, I know that my
age
> also offends some people who have been in the field a long time. I can't
> really speak from expeirence here, but I know that more women have choosen
> careers in the Technology field in the past 10 years. Just as their
> co-workers have come to accept it more, they are going to have to accept
> that us young adults can be capable of doing the same job.
>
> -Russ
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Failed CCDA [7:1698]
>
>
> I'm going to say something Very controversial here, which is that I think
> it's a good sign that a 17-year old had a hard time with the CCDA test. It
> validates the test a bit. Design requires experience. Can someone who has
> just learned to drive, design a car? Can someone who has just started
> learning networking, design a network?
>
> Remember that I teach (part-time) at the high school level and I love the
> energy, quick thinking, and creativity of that age group. I strongly
> believe that the inventions that they will develop will be even more
> amazing than the ones our generation came up with. So I do not make this
> comment out of prejudice.
>
> Aaron, it sounds like you know which areas you need to study a bit more in
> order to pass the test, so I'm sure you'll do well next time. Good luck!
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 09:02 AM 4/24/01, you wrote:
> >Hey guys, this is Aaron again.  I failed my CCDA by 37 points.  I made a
> 718
> >and i needed a 755 to pass  Bah, out 100$..  I did rescedule it for a
> >couple of weeks from now, and now that i know what sections i'm weak in,
i
> >think i might be able to make this up.  My worst section was WAN
> >Technologies with a 40%.  My best was Network Management with a 100%.  So
i
> >guess i had quite a range of scores.  Anyways, back to the books and
sample
> >tests for me.  Thanks guys.
> >
> >~Aaron Vose
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Re: Route Summarization [7:1794]

2001-04-24 Thread Stephen Alston

Thanks Chuck,

I think the number of bits in the mask equals the number of highest order
bits the addresses have in common.

By "highest order" bit, does that mean a bit set to 1?

As for the mask being 16, that's what the approved solution for a virtual
lab says.  It is possible the solution is wrong.  At any rate, it has me
confused.

Steve
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>
> Do you really want to summarize at the /15 boundary? 10.0.0.0/15 might be
> it.
>
> Chuck
>
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> Subject: Route Summarization [7:1794]
>
> I want to summarize three addresses within an OSPF area:
>
> 10.2.1.0/24
> 10.2.2.0/24
> 10.2.3.0/24
>
> Converting to binary, I see the 15th bit is the highest order bit the
three
> addresses have in common.  From that I see the summary address is
10.2.0.0.
> What I don't understand is why the subnet mask is 16bits.  To me it looks
> like it should be 15.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: Just Pass CIT and become CCNP certified, but .. [7:1677]

2001-04-24 Thread Jason J. Roysdon

Congrats!

Comments inline

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> Can anyone tell me what is chapter(s) in cisco press book  belonged to the
> following categories which appear in my score sheet ? Thanks
>
> Category in my score sheet:
> ---
> Connectionless Models (33%)
tcp/ip's udp, Novell's spx are both connectionless protocols.
> HDLC (75%)
encapsulation method (vs. ppp or frame relay, etc.), not sure what chapter
that'd be on in your list.
> OSI backups (100%)
> Troubeshooting (71%)
>
>
> Cisco press Chapter:
> 
> Chapter 1 Support Resources for Troubleshooting
> Chapter 2 Understanding Troubleshooting Methods
> Chapter 3 Identifying Troubleshooting Targets
> Chapter 4 Applying Cisco Troubleshooting Tools
> Chapter 5 Diagnosing and Correcting Campus TCP/IP Problems
> Chapter 6 Diagnosing and Correcting Novell Networking Problems
> Chapter 7 Diagnosing and Correcting AppleTalk Problems
> Chapter 8 Diagnosing and Correcting Catalyst Problems
> Chapter 9 Troubleshooting VLANS on Routers and Switches
> Chapter 10 Diagnosing and Correcting Frame Relay Problems
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Route Summarization [7:1794]

2001-04-24 Thread Stephen Alston

I want to summarize three addresses within an OSPF area:

10.2.1.0/24
10.2.2.0/24
10.2.3.0/24

Converting to binary, I see the 15th bit is the highest order bit the three
addresses have in common.  From that I see the summary address is 10.2.0.0.
What I don't understand is why the subnet mask is 16bits.  To me it looks
like it should be 15.

Thanks,
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RE: Route Summarization [7:1794]

2001-04-24 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I would think your mask would be more like /22 than /15

Do you really want to summarize at the /15 boundary? 10.0.0.0/15 might be
it.

Chuck

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Route Summarization [7:1794]

I want to summarize three addresses within an OSPF area:

10.2.1.0/24
10.2.2.0/24
10.2.3.0/24

Converting to binary, I see the 15th bit is the highest order bit the three
addresses have in common.  From that I see the summary address is 10.2.0.0.
What I don't understand is why the subnet mask is 16bits.  To me it looks
like it should be 15.

Thanks,
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RE: Serial Link is flapping [7:1793]

2001-04-24 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Tariq, you don't get away so easily :->

When you say "flapping" what is the specific symptom? Sh ip int brie shows
up down? Down down?

Is it that you are losing routes?

Debug fram pack for frame relay links, debug ppp for ppp links, debug hdlc
 I think? Don't have a router handy. ) shows what?

You are sitting there minding your own business and the link goes down, then
comes back up? Or are you doing something, like reloading the router, and
the link appears up for a moment, then goes down?

In a situation where you are connecting routers back to back, in general I
have found that if a serial link is not operating properly, it is a config
problem. Knock on wood.

Chuck

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Subject:Serial Link is flapping [7:1793]

Hello Everybody.

In my home network, one link is continuously flapping.
I changed the cable but no luck ...

I checked clock rate on DCE side and it was 64000.

Please help me to remove this problem

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Serial Link is flapping [7:1793]

2001-04-24 Thread Tariq

Hello Everybody.

In my home network, one link is continuously flapping.
I changed the cable but no luck ...

I checked clock rate on DCE side and it was 64000.

Please help me to remove this problem

Tariq




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Re: Tacacs Server Example [7:1788]

2001-04-24 Thread Sean Young

Rico,
I need to know how familiar you are with Unix platform.  I run my tacacs
server on a linux platform.  The setup and configuration is quite simple.
Before I go on, I need to know the following the information:

1) How familiar are you with Unix?  by that, I mean you don't have to
be familiar with Unix, just enough to compile the source code,

2) are you familiar with either vi editor or emacs?

3) are you familiar with compiling the source code?

You can find the TACACS+ source code at: http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/
If you say "YES" to the above questions, then I will be glad to help you.

Sean
>From: "Washington Rico" 
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>Subject: Tacacs Server Example [7:1788]
>Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:02:16 -0400
>
>If anyone can help me,  I need to how to setup a tacacs+ on the unix
>side.  The router side is fairly simple , but the real trouble is on the
>Unix server side.  Anyone know where I could go on the internet to get an
>good example of a configuration file on the Tacacs+ Daemon
>
>Need Help
>
>Many Thank in Advance.
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RE: Failed CCDA [7:1698]

2001-04-24 Thread Russ Kreigh

I too am only 17 years old and like Priscilla I think this is a
controversial topic. However, I have a very strong opinion, therefore am
going to express it. :-) I currently work for an local ISP and have quite a
bit of Cisco experience along with very much UNIX (BSDi, Linux, HP-UX,
Solaris), HTML, JavaScript, ASP, PERL, etc etc. However, I make
significantly less that a new guy that was hired to work along with me. I am
just as qualified, if not more. Of course, there are other issues to
consider; I am part-time and he is full time, I know that makes a
difference, that part I understand. But, I feel that a large portion of it
has to do with my age, not based on my ability to perform my job.

On a Cisco related note, I am going to schedule my CCDA exam within the next
month, along with my CCNA. I am very confident that I will do good on my
CCNA, and have been studying CCDA material and getting some real-life
experience in my job.

The message I am trying to point out is that just because we may be young
doesn't mean that we should not be taken seriously. Also, I know that my age
also offends some people who have been in the field a long time. I can't
really speak from expeirence here, but I know that more women have choosen
careers in the Technology field in the past 10 years. Just as their
co-workers have come to accept it more, they are going to have to accept
that us young adults can be capable of doing the same job.

-Russ





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I'm going to say something Very controversial here, which is that I think
it's a good sign that a 17-year old had a hard time with the CCDA test. It
validates the test a bit. Design requires experience. Can someone who has
just learned to drive, design a car? Can someone who has just started
learning networking, design a network?

Remember that I teach (part-time) at the high school level and I love the
energy, quick thinking, and creativity of that age group. I strongly
believe that the inventions that they will develop will be even more
amazing than the ones our generation came up with. So I do not make this
comment out of prejudice.

Aaron, it sounds like you know which areas you need to study a bit more in
order to pass the test, so I'm sure you'll do well next time. Good luck!

Priscilla

At 09:02 AM 4/24/01, you wrote:
>Hey guys, this is Aaron again.  I failed my CCDA by 37 points.  I made a
718
>and i needed a 755 to pass  Bah, out 100$..  I did rescedule it for a
>couple of weeks from now, and now that i know what sections i'm weak in, i
>think i might be able to make this up.  My worst section was WAN
>Technologies with a 40%.  My best was Network Management with a 100%.  So i
>guess i had quite a range of scores.  Anyways, back to the books and sample
>tests for me.  Thanks guys.
>
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RE: Tacacs Server Example [7:1788]

2001-04-24 Thread Keyur Lavingia

try the list at www.unix.com. Its good too.

Sincerely,

KEYUR LAVINGIA
Network Engineer

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If anyone can help me,  I need to how to setup a tacacs+ on the unix
side.  The router side is fairly simple , but the real trouble is on the
Unix server side.  Anyone know where I could go on the internet to get an
good example of a configuration file on the Tacacs+ Daemon

Need Help

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RE: TTL [7:1700]

2001-04-24 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I'm not sure I understand the question, or the need.

The TTL field is 8 bits, which gives a max value of  255.

At this point, I believe that one's only options for manipulating TTL would
be in terms of changing default hop count maximum for IGRP and EIGRP routing
protocols. I.e. the default distance for an (E)IGRP network is 100 ( 100
hops ) and this can be changed to a max of 255

RFC 1812 specifies that all packets be dropped after the TTL is expired.
This is to keep packets from floating around forever. The process is
specifically described in terms of router behaviour.

I suppose that various applications may manipulate the TTL value in various
ways, but the fact is that the max value is still 255, and router stacks are
generally not configurable in the way you suggest.

Am I understanding your question correctly?

Chuck

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If I wanted to increase the TTL on a Cisco router, how can I do that?

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Tacacs Server Example [7:1788]

2001-04-24 Thread Washington Rico

If anyone can help me,  I need to how to setup a tacacs+ on the unix 
side.  The router side is fairly simple , but the real trouble is on the 
Unix server side.  Anyone know where I could go on the internet to get an 
good example of a configuration file on the Tacacs+ Daemon

Need Help

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Re: AFTER CCNP??? [7:1782]

2001-04-24 Thread Circusnuts

Congrats !!!

>

Work for a while, try to get some projects under your belt, & start kicking
around thoughts of the CCIE.  I would say the former being the most
important, to answer the "what should I be doing right now" question.
Cert's mean something, but the first comment a perspective employer makes to
his or her self after reading "CCNP" on a resume is... ya, but what do they
know.  Documented experience puts serious weight behind your CCNP, not to
mention a confidence @ your level.

@ least that's what I'm doing :o)
Phil


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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 6:00 PM
Subject: AFTER CCNP??? [7:1782]


> All,
> Just wanted to say a quick THANK YOU for all the help
> this list has been over the past 12 months. I passed the CIT on mmonday
and
> now am a CCNP. I actually put this list on the test survey
> as a "other" study method.
> My next bit of help is in what specialization gives me the best career
> opportunity??. I am going to get the DP over the summer because I think it
> is good to have,but what after that?
> Again thanks to everyone on the list. I hope my confidence builds to the
> point that I will start to answer and not just ask.
> Thanks again
>
> Tim Sullivan,CCNP,MCSE,A+
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Certification Plaque [7:1786]

2001-04-24 Thread Kevin Wigle

Dear Group,

Got a present delivered by FedEx today.

I can remember a thread a long while back about not getting a decent plaque
when you certified to CCDP or CCNP.

Well, Cisco Canada has started a program that does send out a neat plaque.
It reminds me of the laser cut wooden plaque I got when I certified for CBE
(Certified Banyan Engineer).

The plaque is 9" by 11", wooden and has a metal Cisco Bridge on it with
"Cisco Systems" embossed.

Your name is cut into the wood as well as the sentence: "Recognized as Cisco
Certified"

Then in a little bag are brass plates with all the certs you have earned.
CCNA, CCDA, CCNP and CCDP (in my case).  You peel off the sticky tape and
place them on the plaque.  A letter suggests you may want to place them in
consideration of earning more certs!

I know the idea is the knowledge (or the journey) and not the certs (or the
trinkets/certificates) but I have to admit that this looks cool and somehow
suggests a more substantial achievement than a piece of paper might
indicate. (in the industry cert arena anyways)

However, I guess you get the plaque even if you've just passed CCNA.
so I don't know.  Perhaps they should restrict it for the NP/DP.  I'm not
sure I would agree that any one exam cert deserves this kind of
recognition... (easy to say since I've got more I guess)

Don't know if Cisco (US) will start this but I think that it would be
welcomed if they did.

Kevin Wigle




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Exam Cram [7:1785]

2001-04-24 Thread Ruben Arias

I want to say a word in favor of exam cram books, I have all the series for 
CCNP and also the one for CCIE.
As you can notice, english is not my mother's language, but for a long time, 
everything I study comes in english, twice the effort needed to understand 
the subjects. Exam Cram Books are simple, and I read them twice to prepare 
an exam, the first time to know some detail of what am I suppose to know, 
then I use Need to know more section on the books to have extra information, 
I participate reading all groupstudy notes, including Natashas, which I 
considere essential study material, also read Cisco Press Books, which are 
hard to follow,but knowing already a little makes it easy, and finally when 
I think I am prepared for the exam, I read exam cram again and do the sample 
test.
For sure I will not do an exam by only reading exam cram!.
Ruben

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Re: NAT and MS Terminal Server [7:1765]

2001-04-24 Thread Rajeev Karamchand

Kim


what u need is the terminal server client which u  can
download from the microsoft and then access it thru
the web sites also there has been different posting by
jason,m1 and  simonis on 4/23/01

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> I have a MS Terminal server (Port 3389) inside a
> private subnet. I am using NAT from the router. I am
> using a Static NAT access list:
> 
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.25 3389
> 200.200.200.1 3389
> 
> I still can not access to the terminal server from
> the
> Internet. Can some one tell me what I do wrong.
> 
> Many thanks in advance.
> 
> Kim.
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Re: 2503 - Finding Serial Number [7:1777]

2001-04-24 Thread Circusnuts

Nope- no sho diag on the 2500's

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Subject: Re: 2503 - Finding Serial Number [7:1777]


> Thanks, but that didn't do it...syntax error on cli.  I will pop the cover
> and poke around :-)
>
> --perry
>
> - Original Message -
> From:
> To: ;
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:28 PM
> Subject: RE: 2503 - Finding Serial Number [7:1777]
>
>
> > If you have a 7000 router, the command would be: sh c7200
> > For a 2600, the sh c2600 command will tell you a lot of neat things, but
> not
> > the serial number...hopefully this will point you in the right direction
> at
> > least!
> >
> > roger
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have a 2503 without the little serial number sticker on the
outside...I
> > want to get SmartNet, but they need the SN for the router.  Is there any
> way
> > to determine the serial number for the router ?
> >
> > tia
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Re: 2503 - Finding Serial Number [7:1777]

2001-04-24 Thread Circusnuts

I don't have anything on the outside of my 2511 either, unlike the easy to
find & read labels on my 4500's.  I'd say to pop the case & see if their are
stickers on the motherboard.  I believe they're usually orange-ish/ yellow,
much like on the CAM's, PAM's, & Catalyst cards.

Phil

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Subject: 2503 - Finding Serial Number [7:1777]


> Hello all,
>
> I have a 2503 without the little serial number sticker on the outside...I
> want to get SmartNet, but they need the SN for the router.  Is there any
way
> to determine the serial number for the router ?
>
> tia
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AFTER CCNP??? [7:1782]

2001-04-24 Thread tim sullivan

All,
Just wanted to say a quick THANK YOU for all the help
this list has been over the past 12 months. I passed the CIT on mmonday and 
now am a CCNP. I actually put this list on the test survey
as a "other" study method.
My next bit of help is in what specialization gives me the best career
opportunity??. I am going to get the DP over the summer because I think it 
is good to have,but what after that?
Again thanks to everyone on the list. I hope my confidence builds to the
point that I will start to answer and not just ask.
Thanks again

Tim Sullivan,CCNP,MCSE,A+
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Pix 6.0 debut? Anyone know when? Thanks [7:1780]

2001-04-24 Thread Dropped Packet

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Re: 2503 - Finding Serial Number [7:1777]

2001-04-24 Thread perryb

Thanks, but that didn't do it...syntax error on cli.  I will pop the cover
and poke around :-)

--perry

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Subject: RE: 2503 - Finding Serial Number [7:1777]


> If you have a 7000 router, the command would be: sh c7200
> For a 2600, the sh c2600 command will tell you a lot of neat things, but
not
> the serial number...hopefully this will point you in the right direction
at
> least!
>
> roger
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 14:02
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a 2503 without the little serial number sticker on the outside...I
> want to get SmartNet, but they need the SN for the router.  Is there any
way
> to determine the serial number for the router ?
>
> tia
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RE: 2503 - Finding Serial Number [7:1777]

2001-04-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you have a 7000 router, the command would be: sh c7200
For a 2600, the sh c2600 command will tell you a lot of neat things, but not
the serial number...hopefully this will point you in the right direction at
least!

roger

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Hello all,

I have a 2503 without the little serial number sticker on the outside...I
want to get SmartNet, but they need the SN for the router.  Is there any way
to determine the serial number for the router ?

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2503 - Finding Serial Number [7:1777]

2001-04-24 Thread perryb

Hello all,

I have a 2503 without the little serial number sticker on the outside...I
want to get SmartNet, but they need the SN for the router.  Is there any way
to determine the serial number for the router ?

tia




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RE: What is a stack password? [7:1770]

2001-04-24 Thread Daniel Cotts

Just did a search on CCO for stack +password and picked up several good
hits. Here's two:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/113t/113t_
3/multih2.htm

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/793/access_dial/multilink.html
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> 
> 
> What does a Stack password refer to?  Does it have something 
> to do with ISDN
> multipoint?
> 
> Does anyone have a pointer to a white paper that explains 
> what this is, how
> to configure it, and troubleshoot it?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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RE: Visio Icon downloads (???) [7:1769]

2001-04-24 Thread Daniel Cotts

Try this:
http://www.dtool.com/cisco_visio.zip

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> 
> 
> I know we've had this posted to the list before.  I checked 
> the archives, but
> did not see the Cisco link.  The CCO search sends me to a 
> 1999 TAC newsletter
> with expired links.
> http://www.cisco.com/kobayashi/sw-center/netmgmt/visionway.html
> 
> Netcerts is either down or they no longer support the Icon download.
> http://www.netcerts.com/downloads/downloads.htm
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated
> 
> Thanks
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Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1774]

2001-04-24 Thread Jon

Might look at the 827-4v router, as well.  It's an Alcatel-DSL modem, with
an ethernet interface and four FXS interfaces.  Should be able to buy two
of them for what a single 1700 and voice modules cost, and connect them
over your existing lab to perform WAN QoS stuff.

-jon-

""Circusnuts""  wrote:
> Don't forget the 3600's do Voice, ATM, & Fast Ethernet.  You may find
the
> 4500 Fast Ethernet modules cost more than anything for 3600 router. We
> replaced a lot of Government 45's & 4700's with 3600 routers, when 
> pricing modules.  If you have the 4500's already, I would think the 
> 1700's would be the best Voice router for the money.  I would assume- 
> with a reasonable discount, you could outfit 2 complete Voice 1700's for

> around 3,000.

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RE: Visio Icon downloads (???) [7:1769]

2001-04-24 Thread Cooper, David




Lets try that again...

www.ccprep.com/resources/downloads/index.asp




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RE: Visio Icon downloads (???) [7:1769]

2001-04-24 Thread Cooper, David




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What is a stack password? [7:1770]

2001-04-24 Thread Wilbo Waggins

What does a Stack password refer to?  Does it have something to do with ISDN
multipoint?

Does anyone have a pointer to a white paper that explains what this is, how
to configure it, and troubleshoot it?

Thanks

WW




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Visio Icon downloads (???) [7:1769]

2001-04-24 Thread Circusnuts

I know we've had this posted to the list before.  I checked the archives, but
did not see the Cisco link.  The CCO search sends me to a 1999 TAC newsletter
with expired links.
http://www.cisco.com/kobayashi/sw-center/netmgmt/visionway.html

Netcerts is either down or they no longer support the Icon download.
http://www.netcerts.com/downloads/downloads.htm

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks
Phil




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Re: ANSWER: OSPF overrides 'no ip classless' [7:1758]

2001-04-24 Thread John Neiberger

Hey, not a bad idea!  The Cubbies and Sammy Sosa are in town to get
punished by the Rocks.  That would be a nice little getaway. 
Unfortuntelyyou guessedCCIE study group meeting tonight.  ;-)

>>> "James Haynes"  4/24/01 1:30:48 PM >>>
John,

Have you considered going out to a movie, ballgame, or anything else
that
might get you away from your routers for a few hours? :-)

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> I have received results from a TAC case about this familiar issue. 
For
> those coming late to the picnic, the issue was that the presence of
OSPF
> or IS-IS overrides 'no ip classless' in the router configuration and
> would force the router to behave classlessly.  The TAC engineer
> consulted with some Development Engineers and here is what they
said:
>
>
>
> Yes, we do this if the default (or the supernet) route
>  is supplied by OSPF or ISIS (I guess EIGRP should be there,
>  but it is not) and the part of the code that requested
>  the RT lookup didn't not specify to ignore the default
>  route if there's no specific subnet (which is the case
>  for the locally originated and transit packets).
>  The assumption is that it is safe to use a default/supernet
>  route installed by a classless protocol.
>
> So what ever you and me have seen in our testing is correct
behaviour.
>
>
>
> So, our original guesses were correct.  The router assumes that if
> we're running OSPF or IS-IS then we want classless routing even if
we
> didn't specify 'ip classless' in the config.  However, an important
> point is that this applies only if the supernet was installed by the
> classless protocol.  If OSPF or IS-IS is running on a router but the
> supernet was installed by another process, then classful routing
would
> still apply without the addition of 'ip classless' to the config.
>
> I've also discovered that if you add 'ip clueless' to the config,
the
> following occurs:
>
> First, ip classless is overridden but only in cases where no ip
> classless was manually configured previously and was not the default
> setting, unless the router has not had any previous configuration and
is
> running at least 12.1(5F)T12.  This does not apply for any 12.0
images
> except 12.0(6)S but does apply to any 11.2 image after 11.2(26c)P;
>
> Second, the gateway of last resort might be chosen by the RT lookup
> process if the GOLR was set by a classless routing protocol with an
> administrative distance lower than that of any other classless or
> classful routing protocol on the router, except in the case of BGP
or
> EGP in which case the administrative distance must be at least equal
to
> that of the routing protocol which previously installed the GOLR, if
> already present;
>
> Thirdly, if the lowest-weighted routing protocol is OSPF and the
GOLR
> is advertised to neighbor as an E2 route, then the neighbor router
may
> choose to use that route unless another neighbor has advertised the
same
> supernet route as an E1 route.  In which case--but especially when
> utilizing IP over Avian Carriers (with QoS)--the RT lookup will
choose
> the Type 1 External route unless EIGRP is running on this router as
> well.  In that case, the GOLR will be set via EIGRP because Cisco
> prefers EIGRP to OSPF and we should all use that anyway because,
don't
> ya know, OSPF is harder to configure and requires way too much
thought
> to begin with.  IS-IS is just out of the question.  However, if a
router
> learns a supernet route via OSPF and IS-IS *and* EIGRP then you will
be
> severely punished.  Flogging is generally suggested.  As an
alternative,
> only run EIGRP and leave "ip clueless" configured.
>
> Any other configuration will provide ambiguous results.
>
> HTH,
> John
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Re: ANSWER: OSPF overrides 'no ip classless' [7:1758]

2001-04-24 Thread James Haynes

You gotta admire a man with dedication.

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> Hey, not a bad idea!  The Cubbies and Sammy Sosa are in town to get
> punished by the Rocks.  That would be a nice little getaway.
> Unfortuntelyyou guessedCCIE study group meeting tonight.  ;-)
>
> >>> "James Haynes"  4/24/01 1:30:48 PM >>>
> John,
>
> Have you considered going out to a movie, ballgame, or anything else
> that
> might get you away from your routers for a few hours? :-)
>
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> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> > I have received results from a TAC case about this familiar issue.
> For
> > those coming late to the picnic, the issue was that the presence of
> OSPF
> > or IS-IS overrides 'no ip classless' in the router configuration and
> > would force the router to behave classlessly.  The TAC engineer
> > consulted with some Development Engineers and here is what they
> said:
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, we do this if the default (or the supernet) route
> >  is supplied by OSPF or ISIS (I guess EIGRP should be there,
> >  but it is not) and the part of the code that requested
> >  the RT lookup didn't not specify to ignore the default
> >  route if there's no specific subnet (which is the case
> >  for the locally originated and transit packets).
> >  The assumption is that it is safe to use a default/supernet
> >  route installed by a classless protocol.
> >
> > So what ever you and me have seen in our testing is correct
> behaviour.
> >
> >
> >
> > So, our original guesses were correct.  The router assumes that if
> > we're running OSPF or IS-IS then we want classless routing even if
> we
> > didn't specify 'ip classless' in the config.  However, an important
> > point is that this applies only if the supernet was installed by the
> > classless protocol.  If OSPF or IS-IS is running on a router but the
> > supernet was installed by another process, then classful routing
> would
> > still apply without the addition of 'ip classless' to the config.
> >
> > I've also discovered that if you add 'ip clueless' to the config,
> the
> > following occurs:
> >
> > First, ip classless is overridden but only in cases where no ip
> > classless was manually configured previously and was not the default
> > setting, unless the router has not had any previous configuration and
> is
> > running at least 12.1(5F)T12.  This does not apply for any 12.0
> images
> > except 12.0(6)S but does apply to any 11.2 image after 11.2(26c)P;
> >
> > Second, the gateway of last resort might be chosen by the RT lookup
> > process if the GOLR was set by a classless routing protocol with an
> > administrative distance lower than that of any other classless or
> > classful routing protocol on the router, except in the case of BGP
> or
> > EGP in which case the administrative distance must be at least equal
> to
> > that of the routing protocol which previously installed the GOLR, if
> > already present;
> >
> > Thirdly, if the lowest-weighted routing protocol is OSPF and the
> GOLR
> > is advertised to neighbor as an E2 route, then the neighbor router
> may
> > choose to use that route unless another neighbor has advertised the
> same
> > supernet route as an E1 route.  In which case--but especially when
> > utilizing IP over Avian Carriers (with QoS)--the RT lookup will
> choose
> > the Type 1 External route unless EIGRP is running on this router as
> > well.  In that case, the GOLR will be set via EIGRP because Cisco
> > prefers EIGRP to OSPF and we should all use that anyway because,
> don't
> > ya know, OSPF is harder to configure and requires way too much
> thought
> > to begin with.  IS-IS is just out of the question.  However, if a
> router
> > learns a supernet route via OSPF and IS-IS *and* EIGRP then you will
> be
> > severely punished.  Flogging is generally suggested.  As an
> alternative,
> > only run EIGRP and leave "ip clueless" configured.
> >
> > Any other configuration will provide ambiguous results.
> >
> > HTH,
> > John
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2001-04-24 Thread John McClelland

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NAT and MS Terminal Server [7:1765]

2001-04-24 Thread Kim Seng

I have a MS Terminal server (Port 3389) inside a
private subnet. I am using NAT from the router. I am
using a Static NAT access list:

ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.25 3389
200.200.200.1 3389

I still can not access to the terminal server from the
Internet. Can some one tell me what I do wrong.

Many thanks in advance.

Kim.

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Re: Fed Up With Global Knowledge [7:1595]

2001-04-24 Thread Circusnuts

Sorry Paul- not a lot of compassion from this camp.  Your employer's dolling
out a nice sum of $$$ for your career.  Footing the travel & nights (or
weeks) stay in a nearby city that offers this Global class does not seem too
above & beyond the call of duty.  The odds are very against you staying with
this present employer if you should pass the lab.  I know it's taken 100's
of hours to get myself in the position just to begin to study for CCIE lab,
not to mention families financial commitment of the so far almost $12,000 in
a homelab.

Sorry
Phil
- Original Message -
From: Marc Russell 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Fed Up With Global Knowledge [7:1595]


> You may want to check out our site www.ccbootcamp.com
>
> We will soon be offering a 5-day CCIE Boot Camp class that runs from 9a-9p
> and includes 14 days (5 days during the class) of telnet access back to
the
> rack you used in class. Info will be posted on our site shortly.
>
> Marc Russell
> Network Learning, Inc.
> 1677 W. Hamlin
> Rochester Hills, MI 48309
> Work PH# 248-299-8114
> Fax# 248-299-7975
>
>
>
>
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> > After convincing my company to spend a considerable amount of money
(about
> > $14,000) to Global Knowledge for the CCIE package, it seems that I am
> having
> > problems scheduling classes in the St. Louis area. They have already
> > cancelled two of the classes I was scheduled for and there does not
appear
> > to be any reschedule dates for the other classes I need to take.
Included
> in
> > the package was $700 dollars worth of test vouchers, which become
> worthless
> > after June 2001. I have taken three classes with this company and they
> were
> > excellent.
> >
> > My question to the group is where to spend the remaining $7000, that is
if
> I
> > can get it back from Global Knowledge. Is there another traveling
company
> > that would visit the St. Louis area. I would appreciate some input in
this
> > matter.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Paul Cantagi
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Strange Configuration, Strange Result [7:1763]

2001-04-24 Thread Mr. Oletu Hosea Godswill, CCNA

Am trying to connect two cisco routers each on both side of two speedlan
radios and antenna. In place of the second router was a 3com switch before
now, and with that connection I can browse the internet.

I now replace the switch with a router, the connection from the radio into
the
router was made using a cross connect rj45 cable. After all configuration,
show ip route duplicates all the routes from the first router into the second
router. Everything seem okay. But outside the route I cannot browse the
internet.

Both routers were connected together via the radios through their ethernet
interfaces. The questions now is, 1. Can't I connect two routers via a radio
through their ethernet interfaces? 2. If the answer is NO, why then was 'show
cdp neighbor' showed me the second router, why was the line protocol up, why
was the routing table forwarded to my second router? 3. Is there anything I
am
missingup?

Thanks
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Re: ANSWER: OSPF overrides 'no ip classless' [7:1758]

2001-04-24 Thread James Haynes

John,

Have you considered going out to a movie, ballgame, or anything else that
might get you away from your routers for a few hours? :-)

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""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> I have received results from a TAC case about this familiar issue.  For
> those coming late to the picnic, the issue was that the presence of OSPF
> or IS-IS overrides 'no ip classless' in the router configuration and
> would force the router to behave classlessly.  The TAC engineer
> consulted with some Development Engineers and here is what they said:
>
>
>
> Yes, we do this if the default (or the supernet) route
>  is supplied by OSPF or ISIS (I guess EIGRP should be there,
>  but it is not) and the part of the code that requested
>  the RT lookup didn't not specify to ignore the default
>  route if there's no specific subnet (which is the case
>  for the locally originated and transit packets).
>  The assumption is that it is safe to use a default/supernet
>  route installed by a classless protocol.
>
> So what ever you and me have seen in our testing is correct behaviour.
>
>
>
> So, our original guesses were correct.  The router assumes that if
> we're running OSPF or IS-IS then we want classless routing even if we
> didn't specify 'ip classless' in the config.  However, an important
> point is that this applies only if the supernet was installed by the
> classless protocol.  If OSPF or IS-IS is running on a router but the
> supernet was installed by another process, then classful routing would
> still apply without the addition of 'ip classless' to the config.
>
> I've also discovered that if you add 'ip clueless' to the config, the
> following occurs:
>
> First, ip classless is overridden but only in cases where no ip
> classless was manually configured previously and was not the default
> setting, unless the router has not had any previous configuration and is
> running at least 12.1(5F)T12.  This does not apply for any 12.0 images
> except 12.0(6)S but does apply to any 11.2 image after 11.2(26c)P;
>
> Second, the gateway of last resort might be chosen by the RT lookup
> process if the GOLR was set by a classless routing protocol with an
> administrative distance lower than that of any other classless or
> classful routing protocol on the router, except in the case of BGP or
> EGP in which case the administrative distance must be at least equal to
> that of the routing protocol which previously installed the GOLR, if
> already present;
>
> Thirdly, if the lowest-weighted routing protocol is OSPF and the GOLR
> is advertised to neighbor as an E2 route, then the neighbor router may
> choose to use that route unless another neighbor has advertised the same
> supernet route as an E1 route.  In which case--but especially when
> utilizing IP over Avian Carriers (with QoS)--the RT lookup will choose
> the Type 1 External route unless EIGRP is running on this router as
> well.  In that case, the GOLR will be set via EIGRP because Cisco
> prefers EIGRP to OSPF and we should all use that anyway because, don't
> ya know, OSPF is harder to configure and requires way too much thought
> to begin with.  IS-IS is just out of the question.  However, if a router
> learns a supernet route via OSPF and IS-IS *and* EIGRP then you will be
> severely punished.  Flogging is generally suggested.  As an alternative,
> only run EIGRP and leave "ip clueless" configured.
>
> Any other configuration will provide ambiguous results.
>
> HTH,
> John
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RE: Welcome to Israel!!! [7:1755]

2001-04-24 Thread Jim Dixon

What networking problem are you having
Terry?


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Subject: Welcome to Israel!!! [7:1755]


Please view this link:

http://www.a2zegypt.com/isr_heaven1.swf

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Re: Test is in 2 hours and I'm having difficulties with RIF [7:1760]

2001-04-24 Thread Wilbo Waggins

I believe that the 8 bytes is wrong.  An RD is 12 bits for the ring, and 4
bits for the bridge number.  This is 16 bits which is 2 bytes.  2 bytes for
each ring, bridge combination or RD.  It has to be 6.

No wonder why the CCIE exam is such a pain in the butt.  The documentation
and learning material stinks.


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> I'm having an issue with several different view on RIF decoding.
>
> One place says this:
> If I have a RIF of
> 0610 00A1 00B2 00C0
> This is valid because in binary the RC fields say:
> 000 00110 0 001 
> Which means:
> RC = 6 bytes of information which equates to 3 Ring/Bridge combo's read
from
> left to right and a length of 1500
> RD = Ring 10 to Bridge 1 to Ring 11 to Bridge 2 to Ring 12 to Bridge 0
which
> is always the last bridge
>
> Another place says this:
> If I have a RIF of
> 0810 00A1 00B2 00C3
> RC fields say:
> 000 01000 0 001 
> RC = 8 bytes of information which equates to 3 Ring/Bridge combo's read
from
> left to right with a length of 1500
> RD = Ring 10 to Bridge 1 to Ring 11 to Bridge 2 to Ring 12 to Bridge 0
which
> is always the last bridge
>
> WHICH IS CORRECT?
> 8 bytes = 3 ring/bridge combo's or
> 6 byes = 3 ring/bridge combo's
>
> If I look at the RD it is 6 byes which makes me believe the first example
is
> correct, however at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/100/46.html and the
> CCIEprep token ring it shows the 8 bytes = 3 ring/bridge combo's.
>
> I understand everything else but I will miss every RIF decode question if
I
> don't figure this out.
> Thanks!
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> Phoenix Branch
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Re: what does " no logging console" mean? [7:1708]

2001-04-24 Thread John Neiberger

Good point.  A lot of the really fun debugs would be disastrous on a
production router.  Unfortunately, they have the best chance of
generating cool stuff in the first place.  Home labs just aren't nearly
as much fun!  Besides, that tension from not knowing exactly what's
going to happen and that your network could die at any second just makes
debugging production routers that much more interesting.  

>>> "Donald B Johnson jr"  4/24/01 12:15:29 PM
>>>
Actually i do both, one to watch things happen in real time when you
change
configs (invaluable for "ccie labbing it") and when a session is over
i
print the full debug to read before i go to sleep hoping i wake up a
ccie. I
aint talking about production.
Thank You,

Don Johnson
Engineering
Adelphia Communications Corp.
P# 814-260-3259 office
P# 814-274-9391 lab
F# 814-260-3227
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: what does " no logging console" mean? [7:1708]


> Even when debugging from the console, I prefer to turn off console
> logging and log the debug output to memory.  This way if there is an
> unexpectedly large amount of output I don't get locked out of the
router
> and there's a lower chance of negative impact on the system.
>
> John
>
> >>> "Donald B Johnson jr"  4/24/01 10:43:48 AM
> >>>
> Not good if you are trying to debug a command either. There won't be
> any
> display.
> You have to turn it back on if you are debugging from the console.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> From: "William E. Gragido"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:44 AM
> Subject: RE: what does " no logging console" mean? [7:1708]
>
>
> > It means that the logging messages are not being displayed to the
> console
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf
> Of
> > beth shriver
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:39 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Subject: what does " no logging console" mean? [7:1708]
> >
> >
> > I noticed this in my main config and curious as to
> > what it is preventing.
> >
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ANSWER: OSPF overrides 'no ip classless' [7:1758]

2001-04-24 Thread John Neiberger

I have received results from a TAC case about this familiar issue.  For
those coming late to the picnic, the issue was that the presence of OSPF
or IS-IS overrides 'no ip classless' in the router configuration and
would force the router to behave classlessly.  The TAC engineer
consulted with some Development Engineers and here is what they said:



Yes, we do this if the default (or the supernet) route
 is supplied by OSPF or ISIS (I guess EIGRP should be there,
 but it is not) and the part of the code that requested
 the RT lookup didn't not specify to ignore the default
 route if there's no specific subnet (which is the case
 for the locally originated and transit packets).
 The assumption is that it is safe to use a default/supernet
 route installed by a classless protocol.

So what ever you and me have seen in our testing is correct behaviour.



So, our original guesses were correct.  The router assumes that if
we're running OSPF or IS-IS then we want classless routing even if we
didn't specify 'ip classless' in the config.  However, an important
point is that this applies only if the supernet was installed by the
classless protocol.  If OSPF or IS-IS is running on a router but the
supernet was installed by another process, then classful routing would
still apply without the addition of 'ip classless' to the config.

I've also discovered that if you add 'ip clueless' to the config, the
following occurs:

First, ip classless is overridden but only in cases where no ip
classless was manually configured previously and was not the default
setting, unless the router has not had any previous configuration and is
running at least 12.1(5F)T12.  This does not apply for any 12.0 images
except 12.0(6)S but does apply to any 11.2 image after 11.2(26c)P;  

Second, the gateway of last resort might be chosen by the RT lookup
process if the GOLR was set by a classless routing protocol with an
administrative distance lower than that of any other classless or
classful routing protocol on the router, except in the case of BGP or
EGP in which case the administrative distance must be at least equal to
that of the routing protocol which previously installed the GOLR, if
already present;  

Thirdly, if the lowest-weighted routing protocol is OSPF and the GOLR
is advertised to neighbor as an E2 route, then the neighbor router may
choose to use that route unless another neighbor has advertised the same
supernet route as an E1 route.  In which case--but especially when
utilizing IP over Avian Carriers (with QoS)--the RT lookup will choose
the Type 1 External route unless EIGRP is running on this router as
well.  In that case, the GOLR will be set via EIGRP because Cisco
prefers EIGRP to OSPF and we should all use that anyway because, don't
ya know, OSPF is harder to configure and requires way too much thought
to begin with.  IS-IS is just out of the question.  However, if a router
learns a supernet route via OSPF and IS-IS *and* EIGRP then you will be
severely punished.  Flogging is generally suggested.  As an alternative,
only run EIGRP and leave "ip clueless" configured.  

Any other configuration will provide ambiguous results.

HTH,
John




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Re: EIGRP in IOS version 11 [7:1750]

2001-04-24 Thread David Chandler

See the "subnet" optional switch for OSPF redistributions:

router ospf 100
redistribute EIGRP 123 SUBNETS
etc..etc...

I can not remember what happens when you leave the "subnet" off the
redistribute command.  I do remember that it was not what I wanted to
happen.. :+}

DaveC


Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS wrote:
> 
> Tuesday, April 24, 2001
> 
> To all:
> Has anyone ever heard of a problem with redistributing EIGRP routes
> to OSPF, specifically the subnets not getting distributed, I had heard that
> there may be an IOS  issue which has been resolved by ver. 12 ? We have had
> to use static routes in the ISP's router for authorized users to reach our
> internal networks.
> 
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Job in the Downtown Detroit area [7:1756]

2001-04-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am looking for a WAN job in the downtown Detroit area? I am a very hard 
worker and have many years in the business. I can send you my resume and 
cover letter upon request.

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Welcome to Israel!!! [7:1755]

2001-04-24 Thread Terry Dumez

Please view this link:

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Pathetic Prometric [7:1746]

2001-04-24 Thread sdonoho

I need to vent.

 I studied and passed(did quite well) the BCRAN test 4/9. I noticed today
that my records on the Cisco tracking site did not reflect my passing of the
test or failing. I called Prometric today and they said that I was listed as
a "no show" for the test. I asked to speak to a manager that could fix this
problem and was put on perpetual hold. I'm at work so I can't wait on line
forever. I got so fed up after waiting so long, I hung up. This company
always seemed third rate to me. I plan on using VUE for testing in the
future.

 OK I'm done.

Scott




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spanning tree [7:1754]

2001-04-24 Thread Lopez, Robert

When using the command "set spantree root (vlan) (dia) (hello)",  should I
include vlan1 in my vlan setting?  Why or why not? Vlan1 is on by default
for management purposes. TIA!!

Robert


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RE: ECP1 or ACCP1,2,3 [7:1710]

2001-04-24 Thread Brian Dennis

The ACPC classes are brand new and haven't been run for the public yet. The
first public ACPC classes will be in June.

I'm the course developer for the ACPC classes and can answer any questions
you have about them. Feel free to call me at (925) 260-2724.

Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
5G Networks

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Has anyone attended the ECP1 or ACCP1,2,3 CCIE lab prep courses? What are
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RE: Failed CCDA [7:1698]

2001-04-24 Thread Steve Smith

Bravo Priscilla. It make your feel a little more comfortable that the
test are actually testing your knowledge and ability. If you have a test
that pools all your resources, not just what you read, it is more likely
to prove your true ability in a real world scenario. I still think there
should be some type of apprentice program, but that may be too much to
ask of people who want to get a cert just to get a decent paying job.

Hang in there Aaron, study hard and work hard. it will all come in time.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Failed CCDA [7:1698]


I'm going to say something Very controversial here, which is that I
think
it's a good sign that a 17-year old had a hard time with the CCDA test.
It
validates the test a bit. Design requires experience. Can someone who
has
just learned to drive, design a car? Can someone who has just started
learning networking, design a network?

Remember that I teach (part-time) at the high school level and I love
the
energy, quick thinking, and creativity of that age group. I strongly
believe that the inventions that they will develop will be even more
amazing than the ones our generation came up with. So I do not make this

comment out of prejudice.

Aaron, it sounds like you know which areas you need to study a bit more
in
order to pass the test, so I'm sure you'll do well next time. Good luck!

Priscilla

At 09:02 AM 4/24/01, you wrote:
>Hey guys, this is Aaron again.  I failed my CCDA by 37 points.  I made
a 718
>and i needed a 755 to pass  Bah, out 100$..  I did rescedule it for
a
>couple of weeks from now, and now that i know what sections i'm weak
in, i
>think i might be able to make this up.  My worst section was WAN
>Technologies with a 40%.  My best was Network Management with a 100%.
So i
>guess i had quite a range of scores.  Anyways, back to the books and
sample
>tests for me.  Thanks guys.
>
>~Aaron Vose
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RE: Status is up and Line Protocol is down. [7:1508]

2001-04-24 Thread Tim Lovelace

Usually this is from something at layer 2 or below. Verify that your
encapsulations are set the same and that you have good/correct cables. I
have had this problem in the past with bad cables connecting an external
DSU. Hope that helps
Tim

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Hello Everybody.

I am getting very strange problem in my home network.
I am getting Status is up and line protocol is down message.

Please check the attached diagram. I am unable to coonect Serial 1 of Router
2 with Serial 1 of router 3

I applied clock rate 64000 command on serial 1 interface of Router 2.
Encapsulation on both ends is HDLC.
I changed keepalive but was no success. Default keepalive is 10.

Cable and interface is is 100% ok thats why status is up. Line Protocol is
down means that there is some problems on datalink layer.

I think that it could be some masking problem. Please see it and let me
know.

Thanks

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EIGRP in IOS version 11 [7:1750]

2001-04-24 Thread Roe Brian M Civ 612 ACOMS/AFETS

Tuesday, April 24, 2001

To all:
Has anyone ever heard of a problem with redistributing EIGRP routes
to OSPF, specifically the subnets not getting distributed, I had heard that
there may be an IOS  issue which has been resolved by ver. 12 ? We have had
to use static routes in the ISP's router for authorized users to reach our
internal networks. 




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12 AF AFETS
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RE: ECP1 or ACCP1,2,3 [7:1710]

2001-04-24 Thread Brian Dennis

Laurel,
You are confusing the ECP1 class from Mentor Technologies with the ANEW
classes from Global Knowledge. The ANEW classes are being retired and
students that signed up for the ANEW classes are being switched over to the
new ACPC classes. If you compare the ANEW class outlines with the ACPC 1, 2
and 3 outlines you'll see that there is a major difference in the course
content which I'm sure the students being switched will appreciate and isn't
leaving them high and dry.

The ANEW classes use to also be part of the ACP program. The replacements
classes are the ACPC 1, 2 and 3. Global Knowledge is offering an ACP program
which consists of the ACPC 1, 2 and 3 plus a mock CCIE lab and mentoring.

As the course developer and course director for the ACP classes and program
I'll personally guarantee that no student will be left high and dry. If you
or anyone has any questions or concerns about the classes or program feel
free to call me at (925) 260-2724.

Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
5G Networks


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Laurel Jones
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Subject: RE: ECP1 or ACCP1,2,3 [7:1710]


I am looking at signing up for the APPC program which includes ACCP1, 2 3, a
mock lab, mentoring, and remote lab access. However, I've been talking over
the last week or so with the rep at Global Knowledge and I'm becoming a
little leery of the program.  He says they are discontinuing the ECP labs
and replacing with the ACCP, but they are still in the midst of making
changes and that he couldn't quote a firm price yet or even tell me exactly
what would be included in the program.  He said they are meeting on
Wednesday of this week to go over the changes in the program and that he
will get back to me after that.  I've also heard some reports that Global
has recently cancelled a lot of scheduled classes including the ECP labs
because not enough students were signing up.  I can understand their need to
do this to stay profitable, but evidently it is leaving some students who
have purchased the courses as a package deal like the APPC program kind of
"high and dry."
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Has anyone attended the ECP1 or ACCP1,2,3 CCIE lab prep courses? What are
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Re: Failed CCDA [7:1698]

2001-04-24 Thread Naveen

Very well said.

- Original Message -
From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Failed CCDA [7:1698]


> I'm going to say something Very controversial here, which is that I think
> it's a good sign that a 17-year old had a hard time with the CCDA test. It
> validates the test a bit. Design requires experience. Can someone who has
> just learned to drive, design a car? Can someone who has just started
> learning networking, design a network?
>
> Remember that I teach (part-time) at the high school level and I love the
> energy, quick thinking, and creativity of that age group. I strongly
> believe that the inventions that they will develop will be even more
> amazing than the ones our generation came up with. So I do not make this
> comment out of prejudice.
>
> Aaron, it sounds like you know which areas you need to study a bit more in
> order to pass the test, so I'm sure you'll do well next time. Good luck!
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 09:02 AM 4/24/01, you wrote:
> >Hey guys, this is Aaron again.  I failed my CCDA by 37 points.  I made a
718
> >and i needed a 755 to pass  Bah, out 100$..  I did rescedule it for a
> >couple of weeks from now, and now that i know what sections i'm weak in,
i
> >think i might be able to make this up.  My worst section was WAN
> >Technologies with a 40%.  My best was Network Management with a 100%.  So
i
> >guess i had quite a range of scores.  Anyways, back to the books and
sample
> >tests for me.  Thanks guys.
> >
> >~Aaron Vose
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Re: what does " no logging console" mean? [7:1708]

2001-04-24 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Actually i do both, one to watch things happen in real time when you change
configs (invaluable for "ccie labbing it") and when a session is over i
print the full debug to read before i go to sleep hoping i wake up a ccie. I
aint talking about production.
Thank You,

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P# 814-274-9391 lab
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Subject: Re: what does " no logging console" mean? [7:1708]


> Even when debugging from the console, I prefer to turn off console
> logging and log the debug output to memory.  This way if there is an
> unexpectedly large amount of output I don't get locked out of the router
> and there's a lower chance of negative impact on the system.
>
> John
>
> >>> "Donald B Johnson jr"  4/24/01 10:43:48 AM
> >>>
> Not good if you are trying to debug a command either. There won't be
> any
> display.
> You have to turn it back on if you are debugging from the console.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> From: "William E. Gragido"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:44 AM
> Subject: RE: what does " no logging console" mean? [7:1708]
>
>
> > It means that the logging messages are not being displayed to the
> console
> >
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> > Subject: what does " no logging console" mean? [7:1708]
> >
> >
> > I noticed this in my main config and curious as to
> > what it is preventing.
> >
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Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]

2001-04-24 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

What would enterprise give you that you need. Wouldn't that be a low cost
solution for voice. You could learn the enterprise feature set on another
router.
- Original Message -
From: "Brad Ellis" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]


> Phil,
>
> 1700's wont run enterprise IOS.  I really dont recommend them for a lab
> router.
>
> FYI
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796
> cisco gear:  www.optsys.net
>
> ""Circusnuts""  wrote in message
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> > Don't forget the 3600's do Voice, ATM, & Fast Ethernet.  You may find
the
> > 4500 Fast Ethernet modules cost more than anything for 3600 router.  We
> > replaced a lot of Government 45's & 4700's with 3600 routers, when
pricing
> > modules.  If you have the 4500's already, I would think the 1700's would
> be
> > the best Voice router for the money.  I would assume- with a reasonable
> > discount, you could outfit 2 complete Voice 1700's for around 3,000.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Michael Bambic
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:02 PM
> > Subject: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]
> >
> >
> > > I am putting together a document for my company to purchase 5 CCIE
labs
> > and
> > > I need help with the VOIP equip part.
> > > I plan on using
> > > 3 2501's
> > > 1 25011
> > > 3 4000M
> > > 2 4500's
> > > 1 Catalyst 5000
> > > 1 Catalyst 3920 tr switch
> > > 1 Lightstream 100 ATM switch
> > >
> > > The 2 of the 4500's will have ATM interfaces and 1 of those 2 will
have
> an
> > 4
> > > port serial and the other a FastEthernet interface to support trunking
> for
> > > the 5000 switch which will have a Sup II module and the 12 port 10/100
> > > module. This leaves one open slot per 4500, could I implement voice on
> > these
> > > routers and what card would I need? Any other outside equipment
> required?
> > > What memory requirements?
> > > Thanks for helping my laziness as I'm tired of pouring over the CCO
cd.
> > > :)
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Mike Bambic
> > > Lead Mentor
> > > Phoenix Branch
> > > 602-955-5888
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Re: Failed CCDA [7:1698]

2001-04-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I'm going to say something Very controversial here, which is that I think 
it's a good sign that a 17-year old had a hard time with the CCDA test. It 
validates the test a bit. Design requires experience. Can someone who has 
just learned to drive, design a car? Can someone who has just started 
learning networking, design a network?

Remember that I teach (part-time) at the high school level and I love the 
energy, quick thinking, and creativity of that age group. I strongly 
believe that the inventions that they will develop will be even more 
amazing than the ones our generation came up with. So I do not make this 
comment out of prejudice.

Aaron, it sounds like you know which areas you need to study a bit more in 
order to pass the test, so I'm sure you'll do well next time. Good luck!

Priscilla

At 09:02 AM 4/24/01, you wrote:
>Hey guys, this is Aaron again.  I failed my CCDA by 37 points.  I made a 718
>and i needed a 755 to pass  Bah, out 100$..  I did rescedule it for a
>couple of weeks from now, and now that i know what sections i'm weak in, i
>think i might be able to make this up.  My worst section was WAN
>Technologies with a 40%.  My best was Network Management with a 100%.  So i
>guess i had quite a range of scores.  Anyways, back to the books and sample
>tests for me.  Thanks guys.
>
>~Aaron Vose
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OT:TCP/IP Addressing Cisco Books for sale [7:1743]

2001-04-24 Thread Dan Evensen

Free shipping for groupstudy members. If you
are the winning bidder just say you were from Groupstudy.

I am selling Cisco Internet Routing Architectures Book. And a few others 
TCP/IP Addressing, Network Protocol handbook etc. Keep checking back every 
so often for more . Please, view them all at

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Re: Just Pass CIT and become CCNP certified, but .. [7:1677]

2001-04-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

It takes analytical skills to categorize and outline topics. It also 
requires an ability to think in a non-linear, hierarchical fashion. (I've 
seen really bad outlines from author wannabes where every topic was at the 
same level.) Cisco appears to have a person who lacks these skills 
categorizing topics for some of the tests, especially CCNA and Support. My 
other theory is that they have a computer doing it. (Or maybe monkeys! ;-)

Just be glad you passed. Congratulations! The key for those of you still 
trying to pass and learn about the tests: Do not use the test outlines. Use 
the course outline for the instructor-led training.

Priscilla

At 10:54 PM 4/23/01, ryan wrote:
>Can anyone tell me what is chapter(s) in cisco press book  belonged to the
>following categories which appear in my score sheet ? Thanks
>
>Category in my score sheet:
>---
>Connectionless Models (33%)
>HDLC (75%)
>OSI backups (100%)
>Troubeshooting (71%)
>
>
>Cisco press Chapter:
>
>Chapter 1 Support Resources for Troubleshooting
>Chapter 2 Understanding Troubleshooting Methods
>Chapter 3 Identifying Troubleshooting Targets
>Chapter 4 Applying Cisco Troubleshooting Tools
>Chapter 5 Diagnosing and Correcting Campus TCP/IP Problems
>Chapter 6 Diagnosing and Correcting Novell Networking Problems
>Chapter 7 Diagnosing and Correcting AppleTalk Problems
>Chapter 8 Diagnosing and Correcting Catalyst Problems
>Chapter 9 Troubleshooting VLANS on Routers and Switches
>Chapter 10 Diagnosing and Correcting Frame Relay Problems
>Chapter 11 Diagnosing and Correcting ISDN BRI Problems
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Re: Extended access list question [7:1718]

2001-04-24 Thread Micahel L. Lucas

Your first statement is too general, all packets will test successfully
against it and never reach the second line. When you allow ip you allow the
whole stack.


Michael L. Lucas CCSI #22672

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> Hello Everybody,
> I have a segment that I want only established traffic to enter. This has
> become quite confusing. I want ping, telnet, traceroute and DNS replies as
> well as FTP. Heres what I currently have. Any feedback would be
appreciated.
>
> access-list 101 permit ip any 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255 > Allowing IP
> access-list 101 permit tcp any 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255 established --->
> Allowing established TCP traffic
> access-list 101 permit udp any 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255 gt 1023 -->
> Allowing DNS replies
> access-list 101 permit icmp any any echo-reply --> Allow ping reply
>
>
>
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Re: Fed Up With Global Knowledge [7:1595]

2001-04-24 Thread Marc Russell

You may want to check out our site www.ccbootcamp.com

We will soon be offering a 5-day CCIE Boot Camp class that runs from 9a-9p
and includes 14 days (5 days during the class) of telnet access back to the
rack you used in class. Info will be posted on our site shortly.

Marc Russell
Network Learning, Inc.
1677 W. Hamlin
Rochester Hills, MI 48309
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> $14,000) to Global Knowledge for the CCIE package, it seems that I am
having
> problems scheduling classes in the St. Louis area. They have already
> cancelled two of the classes I was scheduled for and there does not appear
> to be any reschedule dates for the other classes I need to take. Included
in
> the package was $700 dollars worth of test vouchers, which become
worthless
> after June 2001. I have taken three classes with this company and they
were
> excellent.
>
> My question to the group is where to spend the remaining $7000, that is if
I
> can get it back from Global Knowledge. Is there another traveling company
> that would visit the St. Louis area. I would appreciate some input in this
> matter.
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Re: what does " no logging console" mean? [7:1708]

2001-04-24 Thread Micahel L. Lucas

It means when you type, you won't be interrupted by router output. This is
enabled using the Logging Synchronous command in line config mode.
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> what it is preventing.
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Re: Status is up and Line Protocol is down. [7:1508]

2001-04-24 Thread Micahel L. Lucas

"Line protocol is down" could have more to do with your IP schemes. change
or reenter ip addressing, verify same subnet. go to global conf. and type IP
routing. This may not be your fault so much as it is the routers code. Also,
down the interface, bring it back up and wait for 120 seconds. Do a sh ip
int brief to verify connectivity.


Michael L. Lucas CCSI# 22672


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>
> I am getting very strange problem in my home network.
> I am getting Status is up and line protocol is down message.
>
> Please check the attached diagram. I am unable to coonect Serial 1 of
Router
> 2 with Serial 1 of router 3
>
> I applied clock rate 64000 command on serial 1 interface of Router 2.
> Encapsulation on both ends is HDLC.
> I changed keepalive but was no success. Default keepalive is 10.
>
> Cable and interface is is 100% ok thats why status is up. Line Protocol is
> down means that there is some problems on datalink layer.
>
> I think that it could be some masking problem. Please see it and let me
> know.
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: what does " no logging console" mean? [7:1708]

2001-04-24 Thread John Neiberger

Even when debugging from the console, I prefer to turn off console
logging and log the debug output to memory.  This way if there is an
unexpectedly large amount of output I don't get locked out of the router
and there's a lower chance of negative impact on the system.

John

>>> "Donald B Johnson jr"  4/24/01 10:43:48 AM
>>>
Not good if you are trying to debug a command either. There won't be
any
display.
You have to turn it back on if you are debugging from the console.
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> It means that the logging messages are not being displayed to the
console
>
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>
>
> I noticed this in my main config and curious as to
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>
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Re: Failed CCDA [7:1698]

2001-04-24 Thread PYF

Good luck for all your coming exams!!!

Kevin

""Aaron Vose""   Hey guys, this is Aaron again.  I failed my CCDA by 37
points.  I made a
718
> and i needed a 755 to pass  Bah, out 100$..  I did rescedule it for a
> couple of weeks from now, and now that i know what sections i'm weak in, i
> think i might be able to make this up.  My worst section was WAN
> Technologies with a 40%.  My best was Network Management with a 100%.  So
i
> guess i had quite a range of scores.  Anyways, back to the books and
sample
> tests for me.  Thanks guys.
>
> ~Aaron Vose
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Re: Passed CCNP Routing 2.0 [7:1727]

2001-04-24 Thread Traceroute

Congratulations!Great Score!...Tough Test! (to me it was) Good Luck on
your next one...
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To: 
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Subject: Passed CCNP Routing 2.0 [7:1727]


> > Passed CCNP routing 2.0  4-19-01.
> > 61 questions, 1 hour 20 minutes max, 22 minutes actual
> > Passing score 690/1000, Minimum score 300/1000, My score 862/1000
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pptp on cisco 1605 [7:1734]

2001-04-24 Thread Laurent LABATUT

i need help about PPTP on cisco 1605!!
to connect my LAN to internet (With NAT) via Alcatel speed touch home
it need a pptp connection!



LAN 1605ALCATEL
-X--@@@
10.0.1.0/24 10.0.0.0/24 10.0.0.138   
 
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RE: how to implement access-list in the way [7:1730]

2001-04-24 Thread Daniel Cotts

It would seem that you want to apply the access-list to the interface that
connects to the Internet. I assume that is the Serial interface.
You want to block ICMP echoes incoming. (Someone pinging you.)
You want to allow ICMP echo replies incoming. (Replies from others to pings
sent by you.)

Your example allows telnet from the Firewall to the router. However it does
not block telnet from the Internet to any other box other than the router.
Hopefully the Firewall provides that protection. Alternately, you could just
block all telnet at the serial interface.

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> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:09 AM
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> Subject: how to implement access-list in the way [7:1730]
> 
> 
> Hi.. I have a internet gateway router with ethernet ip 
> 200.100.100.101/24 
> and serial ip unumbered and I have a firewall ip 200.100.100.100/24.
> 
> I want people from internet cannot ping and telnet to my 
> router via its 
> ethernet IP, so I implement vty access-list as shown below to 
> allow my 
> firewall to telnet to it but it still cannot prevent people 
> from internet to 
> ping my ethernet ip
> 
> ccess-list 2 permit 200.100.100.100
> 
> line vty 0 4
> access-class 2 in
> 
> What access-list can be implement to prevent other from 
> internet to ping the 
> ethernet ip but still allow LAN user to ping to internet via 
> the internet 
> router? waht is the syntax like ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]

2001-04-24 Thread Brad Ellis

Phil,

1700's wont run enterprise IOS.  I really dont recommend them for a lab
router.

FYI
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
cisco gear:  www.optsys.net

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> Don't forget the 3600's do Voice, ATM, & Fast Ethernet.  You may find the
> 4500 Fast Ethernet modules cost more than anything for 3600 router.  We
> replaced a lot of Government 45's & 4700's with 3600 routers, when pricing
> modules.  If you have the 4500's already, I would think the 1700's would
be
> the best Voice router for the money.  I would assume- with a reasonable
> discount, you could outfit 2 complete Voice 1700's for around 3,000.
>
> Phil
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Michael Bambic
> To:
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:02 PM
> Subject: CCIE lab equipment - VOIP help needed. [7:1614]
>
>
> > I am putting together a document for my company to purchase 5 CCIE labs
> and
> > I need help with the VOIP equip part.
> > I plan on using
> > 3 2501's
> > 1 25011
> > 3 4000M
> > 2 4500's
> > 1 Catalyst 5000
> > 1 Catalyst 3920 tr switch
> > 1 Lightstream 100 ATM switch
> >
> > The 2 of the 4500's will have ATM interfaces and 1 of those 2 will have
an
> 4
> > port serial and the other a FastEthernet interface to support trunking
for
> > the 5000 switch which will have a Sup II module and the 12 port 10/100
> > module. This leaves one open slot per 4500, could I implement voice on
> these
> > routers and what card would I need? Any other outside equipment
required?
> > What memory requirements?
> > Thanks for helping my laziness as I'm tired of pouring over the CCO cd.
> > :)
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Mike Bambic
> > Lead Mentor
> > Phoenix Branch
> > 602-955-5888
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Re: what does " no logging console" mean? [7:1708]

2001-04-24 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Not good if you are trying to debug a command either. There won't be any
display.
You have to turn it back on if you are debugging from the console.
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> It means that the logging messages are not being displayed to the console
>
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> beth shriver
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:39 AM
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>
>
> I noticed this in my main config and curious as to
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>
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how to implement access-list in the way [7:1730]

2001-04-24 Thread David Gollop

Hi.. I have a internet gateway router with ethernet ip 200.100.100.101/24 
and serial ip unumbered and I have a firewall ip 200.100.100.100/24.

I want people from internet cannot ping and telnet to my router via its 
ethernet IP, so I implement vty access-list as shown below to allow my 
firewall to telnet to it but it still cannot prevent people from internet to 
ping my ethernet ip

ccess-list 2 permit 200.100.100.100

line vty 0 4
access-class 2 in

What access-list can be implement to prevent other from internet to ping the 
ethernet ip but still allow LAN user to ping to internet via the internet 
router? waht is the syntax like ?





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RE: ECP1 or ACCP1,2,3 [7:1710]

2001-04-24 Thread Laurel Jones

I am looking at signing up for the APPC program which includes ACCP1, 2 3, a
mock lab, mentoring, and remote lab access. However, I've been talking over
the last week or so with the rep at Global Knowledge and I'm becoming a
little leery of the program.  He says they are discontinuing the ECP labs
and replacing with the ACCP, but they are still in the midst of making
changes and that he couldn't quote a firm price yet or even tell me exactly
what would be included in the program.  He said they are meeting on
Wednesday of this week to go over the changes in the program and that he
will get back to me after that.  I've also heard some reports that Global
has recently cancelled a lot of scheduled classes including the ECP labs
because not enough students were signing up.  I can understand their need to
do this to stay profitable, but evidently it is leaving some students who
have purchased the courses as a package deal like the APPC program kind of
"high and dry."  
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Has anyone attended the ECP1 or ACCP1,2,3 CCIE lab prep courses? What are
your recommendations.
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Re: DDR into a PRI [7:1701]

2001-04-24 Thread David Chandler

Yes; you have to use MICAs.  

The MICAs (modems) are the only thing that will be able to interpret the
modulated then digitized signal coming from the remote locations.

The remote modems create an analog signal which only another modem of
same protocol could read (V.whatever).  The Remote analog signal gets
digitized at the nearest CO, using PCM.  The Pulse Code Modulated
verision of the analog signal is sent all the way thru the PRI and your
central site router redirects it "ISDN INCOMING-VOICE MODEM" to the MICA
modems.  The MICA "modems" look at the PCM data and interpret it as
though it had arived as a analog signal.


Question to ALL: 
##
Does any body know if the MICAs actually convert the PCM data back into
analog.  Then read the V.whatever.
or
Does the MICA do both at the same time.

The first approach would be cheaper from a circuitry stand point; but it
seems kinda crazy to convert the digital signal into an analag signal
for approx 1 cm.
###

DaveC



Robert Fowler wrote:
> 
> Ok here is my question, Say you setup DDR with analog lines back to a
> central location with PRI, would you need to have the MICA modems or is
> there a command that will let the PRI interface card use the lines from the
> t1-PRI? I've search the CCO and I've found a lot of information on DDR but
> nothing on the specifics for coming back into a central PRI.
> 
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Passed CCNP Routing 2.0 [7:1727]

2001-04-24 Thread Hire, Ejay

> Passed CCNP routing 2.0  4-19-01.
> 61 questions, 1 hour 20 minutes max, 22 minutes actual
> Passing score 690/1000, Minimum score 300/1000, My score 862/1000




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RE: Enterprise Plus IOS Image for 12.09/x [7:1685]

2001-04-24 Thread Coleman, Jason

Have you ever had an IOS problem that you have to call into TAC while using
this compressed software?
If so, did they balk at the use of the compressed version?  

I would be worried that I may not get proper support if I am not using the
IOS software as it comes from CCO.

Jason Coleman - CCNP, CCDP
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Network Management Center - Austin
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-Original Message-
From:   Vincent Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Enterprise Plus IOS Image for 12.09/x
[7:1685]

It's my router bootup message, running 12.0.9 for just 8m
flash.
The IOS is compressed by mzmaker.

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-JOS56I-L), Version 12.0(9),
RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 25-Jan-00 02:27 by bettyl
Image text-base: 0x144C, data-base: 0x009FC4C8
ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 5.2(5), RELEASE SOFTWARE
BOOTFLASH: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-RXBOOT), Version
10.2(5), RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)
Router uptime is 2 minutes
System restarted by power-on
System image file is "flash:2.bin"
cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision M) with 14336K/2048K
bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 01767501, with hardware revision 
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology
Corp).
TN3270 Emulation software.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
1 Token Ring/IEEE 802.5 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of processor board System flash partition 1
(Read/Write)
8192K bytes of processor board System flash partition 2
(Read/Write)

Configuration register is 0x2102

""Roger Sohn""   Are my eyes playing tricks on me or has the
size of the
Enterprise Plus
IOS
> image for the 2500 series gone up?
>
> I thought it used to be like around 6 or 7 MB but now
checking it on CCO,
it
> takes up 10MB.
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RE: Extended access list question [7:1718]

2001-04-24 Thread Coleman, Jason

Since the access-list is worked from top down, wouldn't the top line allow
all IP traffic.
I don't think that IP packets are ever going to see the lower lines in your
config.

Also, don't forget the implicit deny at the end, you are setting up to drop
all traffic not on the 192.168.0.X network.

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From:   David Eitel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Extended access list question [7:1718]

Hello Everybody,
I have a segment that I want only established traffic to
enter. This has
become quite confusing. I want ping, telnet, traceroute and
DNS replies as
well as FTP. Heres what I currently have. Any feedback would
be appreciated.

access-list 101 permit ip any 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255 >
Allowing IP 
access-list 101 permit tcp any 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255
established --->
Allowing established TCP traffic
access-list 101 permit udp any 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255 gt 1023
-->
Allowing DNS replies
access-list 101 permit icmp any any echo-reply --> Allow
ping reply



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Re: Extended access list question [7:1718]

2001-04-24 Thread Vincent Chong

You should open standard port 53 for DNS traffic, not port greater than
1023.

Correct me if I'm wrong

Vincent

""David Eitel""   Hello Everybody,
> I have a segment that I want only established traffic to enter. This has
> become quite confusing. I want ping, telnet, traceroute and DNS replies as
> well as FTP. Heres what I currently have. Any feedback would be
appreciated.
>
> access-list 101 permit ip any 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255 > Allowing IP
> access-list 101 permit tcp any 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255 established --->
> Allowing established TCP traffic
> access-list 101 permit udp any 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255 gt 1023 -->
> Allowing DNS replies
> access-list 101 permit icmp any any echo-reply --> Allow ping reply
>
>
>
> David Eitel
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