Re: PIX telnet again [7:3003]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

Search the archives.  Yes, it will work, but you're not tunneling traffic
from your internal network to the external IP of the PIX.  You're tunneling
traffic from the inside to the inside.  You also cannot telnet (nor ping)
the inside interface of a far PIX, due to the way it acts as a mid-box.

If you want to telnet to the outside interface via an IPSEC tunnel, you need
to use something like the VPN Client to have your end-point be the PIX
external interface.  The other option would be to get SSHv1 (vulnerable, but
still more secure than open telnet) working on your PIX.

As you already have a tunnel up, can you telnet to some other internal
device and telnet from it back to the inside PIX interface?  A Catalyst or
Win2k server will do.  Since it's in an encrypted tunnel, no big security
risk.

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> Hello,
>
> I have an IPSEC between central office router to site
> office PIX. Central office uses public IP address,
> site office has only 1 public IP address, therefore,
> uses NAT. Everything works fines except I can't telnet
> from central office to PIX (inside or outside). I can
> telnet from central office to servers inside PIX. Is
> there any command I need to add on the PIX? According
> to CCO, if IPSEC is established, telnet to PIX outside
> should work, right?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jim
>
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Re: 2924XL for sale [7:2721]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

eBay
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&Sort
Property=MetaEndSort&query=2924
(mind the line wrap)

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> List on a WS-C2924-XL-EN is $1995, 38% off is about the best discount a
gold
> partner can get.  That puts it at $1235.  Where can you get 'em for $1000?
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
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>
>
> Na- new is closer to a $1000.  I paid something like $950 for mine (new
2924
> XL EN), & have definitely seen new models go for more.
>
> Phil
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Jason Baker
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: 2924XL for sale [7:2721]
>
>
> > Lee,
> >
> > just helping you with selling the switch most of buy from ebay.
> >
> > The exact switch you are selling you can pick up for 500 - 700 US
dollars.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jason Baker
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Lee"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 7:45 PM
> > Subject: 2924XL for sale [7:2721]
> >
> >
> > > For sale:
> > >
> > > Cisco 2924XL EN - $1100US
> > >
> > > This is a brand new Cisco Catalyst 2924 XL EN switch still in the box.
> > > This was intended for a home lab but was never needed.
> > >
> > > Lee
> > > Sydney, Australia
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Howard's other books [7:3008]

2001-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

We all know about Howard's book, Designing Addressing
Architectures for Routing and Switching; but, we rarely hear about his
other books.  I have just finished this book.  It is a very good book,
as most people here know; although, I wouldn't recommend it for
somebody just starting out.  You should have some experience and some
idea of the basic concepts first.  I have over ten years experience
designing, implementing, and maintaining small LAN/WANs using a variety
of technologies and protocols.  I've found networking to be
interesting, so I'm trying to build up my skills.  Right now, I'm
studying for CCDA in a somewhat roundabout way.  I've already read
Top-Down Network Design, as well as Howard's book, and I've started on
Designing Cisco Networks.  What I'm wondering about is Howard's other
books, that we don't hear about very often, such as, Designing Routing
and Switching Architectures.  Is this one that would be good to read
for basic design skills, or should I leave it for CCDP.  Obviously, I'm
not looking to just pass CCDA, but to really nail network design.  I
also have Christian Huitema's IPv6 2ed, which I will probably read
after I finish the MySQL book (besides networking, I do quite a bit of
System Administration and consulting).




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Re: Generic Summarization Planning Question [7:2952]

2001-05-02 Thread EA Louie

geez, that's a lot of questions.

my attempts at answers in-line

- Original Message -
From: Murphy, Brennan 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:48 PM
Subject: Generic Summarization Planning Question [7:2952]


> I am curious about best practices concerning subnetting a class B address
> for a large enterprise network.
>
> If a company had 4 data centers spread throughout the globe, for example:
> SanFran
> Austin
> London
> Sydney
>
> One might chop the class B into 4 parts and if need be, reserve some space
> for growth.  But what if each site also maintained an "Internet Presence"
> and

Divide the class B space into summarizable sections that provided for both
the growth of the data center proper *and* (the tricky part) all of the
spokes that would come off of that data center.  That way, the
interconnections between the data centers could be summarized.  You'd
definitely want to use a RP that allowed for VLSM.  Also reserve a block of
each allocated data center 'summary' to use for small subnets (30 bit masks)
for serial links, and for things like remote access and the WAN backbone and
DMZs and loopback addresses and other miscellanity.

> had 5 or 6 external subnets being advertised via BGP.  Would
> it make sense to re-do the subnetting so that all internal addressing
> was contiguous and all external addressing was contiguous?  This way,

You only get to advertise your public block with one AS, so unless you were
using some other registered address space (which is frowned upon if you
already have a big registered block), you'd set up iBGP internally and
(probably) set the Internet access routers so that you didn't advertise
yourself as a transit area.  If you're using private B addressing, then your
external doesn't matter because you'd have to use NAT anyway.  I suppose
that if you could afford it, you could have both internal and external links
between the data centers so that you could use iBGP on the outside if a
local data center lost its Internet connection you could ride it on the
outside of the firewall, but that is a pretty far-fetched idea.  There are
better solutions than that.

> all internal addressing could be summarized with relatively few
statements,
> and external nets as well. Does this sound reasonable?  I've been

Take a look at some case studies - good address design and allocation is one
of the trickiest but most fulfilling skills that a Network Engineer can
have, especially if it can be done well.  With private address space,
though, that skill has been diminished because we tend to throw caution to
the wind and say "Aww, if I run out of space in 172.16, I can use 172.17"

> browsing the CID book and other documents but havent come across
> anything that seems to address these concerns.  Or would it just be better
> to make sure that all nets both internal/external are contiguous for a
> particular data center? Just wondering if anyone has been through this

Your distinction between internal and external is interesting - I'm assuming
that you mean inside the firewall and outside the firewall.  Most firewalls
don't pass routing protocol, which makes the distinction and the contiguous
part moot.  However, if you did expose your address block to the Internet
(which we did at one company I worked for), it really didn't matter much
that the Internet connection was part of the data center summarizable block.
Actually, the danger there is the "black hole" phenomenon, where the
summarized address 'eats' subnets that are not part of the block but still
being used elsewhere in the enterprise but not behind the data center.  It
happens sometimes by accident, seldom by design.

> situation. Not sure if it would matter if OSPF or EIGRP is the IGP
involved.
>
> I cc'ed Howard Berkowitz on this question -- Im told his first book is
> a great reference for this area. Maybe his response would spur me to
> purchase it. :-)
>

Here's one of the best exercises you could do:
o  generate the scenario
o  start laying out subnets
o  see if you could summarize along major subnet boundaries with just the
major sites.
o  start simple, with one Internet connection, then throw in one other
Internet connection and see if you could figure out how to:

1.  send users to the closest Internet connection
2.  have users directed to the other Internet connection if their primary
connection failed
3.  prevent your network from becoming an Internet transit

test your design for scaleability by
o  adding a 5th and 6th data center (aha! you were going to divide the B
block into 4 parts???)
o  using more than the originally alloted address space for one data center
due to spoke or campus growth (want to hear sysadmins complain?  tell them
that you underallocated address space in their site, and therefore they have
to readdress)
o  create a complex (meshed) WAN behind one or more of the data centers and
see how the addressing holds up.

Hey, I have an idea.. use NAI's global network as your case study!  ;-)

Re: CCDA [7:2971]

2001-05-02 Thread Traceroute

I am enjoying studying for it now after obtaining CCNP. It is required for
CCDP, and is reminding me of how important the basics are in designing. Its
an easy one after the CCNP track but wheeew the case studies. My eyes burn
every night...
- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 6:31 PM
Subject: CCDA [7:2971]


> Dear Group,
>
> I guess I've been sleeping again..
>
> It used to be the case that getting CCDA meant that you have passed CCNA
and
> DCN.
>
> However looking at CCO, it seems that CCDA is now a one exam cert also -
> although:
>
> CCDA Prerequisites
>
> Knowledge and skills to install, configure, and operate small networks.
CCNA
> certification is highly recommended.
> Making it easier to get the junior certs I guess.  Whether that is a good
> thing
>
>
> Kevin Wigle
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Re: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]

2001-05-02 Thread EA Louie

dang, does that mean "The Dukes of Hazzard" is coming back?  (I loved Daisy
Duke in dem dere cutoffs...)

Did Mayor Brown donate his Porsche to the homeless, or did the CHP
confiscate it because he had too many unpaid speeding tickets?

-e-

- Original Message -
From: adam lee 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:40 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]


> You haven't heard?  Willie traded in his expensive sports car for a
classic
> used car, THE GENERAL LEE.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> EA Louie
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:30 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]
>
>
> Jason - I heard that Willie's latest passion is hillbilly music...right
> after filling potholes and tossing the homeless out of GG Park  ;-)
>
> -e-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Jason Roysdon
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 8:30 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]
>
>
> > Heh, interesting.  Of course, my friend is a white oakie who likes his
> > country without all that new-fangled hipness (I say stuff like that to
> tease
> > him).  You know, with a banjo, and no drums!  Somehow I don't think he
has
> > any special connections there.
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
> >
> > ""EA Louie""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > lmao... what timing for that story to come out, just when Jason's
> talking
> > > about his buddy...
> > >
> > > -e-
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: adam lee
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:17 PM
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Are you sure he's not Willie Brown's friend?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2001/04/30/MN165362.DTL
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 6:03 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My friend was hired for the City/County of SF for $96K/year 3 months
> ago
> > > > with just his CNE.  Plus they bought out the rest of his $150K
> contract
> > > with
> > > > his previous employer, and paid for all the training he owned his
> former
> > > > employer (he'd been working exclusively for this customer anyway for
> the
> > > > last 6 mos.)
> > > >
> > > > Granted, he knows ZEN and can image every PC on their entire network
> in
> > 15
> > > > minutes and replaced 5 help-desk folks who used to do what ZEN does
in
> a
> > > few
> > > > clicks of a button (they still kept a few screwdrivers to replace
> > > hardware).
> > > > And that's just the eye-candy stuff that his manager likes to show
> off,
> > > he's
> > > > got a solid years as a CNE under his belt (and not for mom-and-pop
> > > networks,
> > > > but for large enterprise clients) plus a year as an understudy
before.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, this guy is sharp as a TAC (pun-intended).  He'll pick up
> his
> > > > MCSE 2000 by the end of the year if he applies himself (he did the
> CNE5
> > in
> > > 3
> > > > months of self-study and building his own servers, plus hands-on
> > > experience
> > > > as an understudy to some of our ECNE/MCNE's).  That is, if he ever
> goes
> > > > home.  Heh, he even keeps a cot and a change of clothes at the
office
> > for
> > > > those late nights.
> > > >
> > > > The funniest thing is that his house cost less than 10 months of his
> > gross
> > > > salary.  But then he lives out in sticksville (but they do have
> > > > cablemodems).
> > > >
> > > > I dunno, I find it kinda funny because he's the guy that came over
> with
> > > RH5
> > > > one day two years ago and said, "Hey, you wanna install this?" and
we
> > > > proceeded to waste the night away and piss off both of our Wives.
> > Hehee.
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ""Brian""  wrote in message
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Novell certification, let's look at what kind of jobs that gets
you.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1 a job at a company which is migrating from Novell to NT, and
will
> > let
> > > > > you go when the transition is complete.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2 a job at a company that is too cheap to replace its legacy
> mishmash
> > > > > network.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll pass either way.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian "Sonic" Whalen
> > > > > Success = Preparation + Opportunity
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Donald B Johnson jr wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The Grand dad of all certs and now it is sneared at.
> > > > > >

Re: Cisco networking position in NJ [7:2989]

2001-05-02 Thread EA Louie

ohhh i'd love to dig my teeth into this one, but I don't have the energy
after today  ;-)

-e-

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From: Raul F. Fernandez 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 8:38 PM
Subject: RE: Cisco networking position in NJ [7:2989]


> Rut Ro
>
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> Ruihai An
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cisco networking position in NJ [7:2989]
>
>
> ASP company in Parsippany NJ is looking for junior to middle level Cisco
> network enginner.  Contact me if you are interested.
>
> Ruihai
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PIX telnet again [7:3003]

2001-05-02 Thread Jim Bond

Hello,

I have an IPSEC between central office router to site
office PIX. Central office uses public IP address,
site office has only 1 public IP address, therefore,
uses NAT. Everything works fines except I can't telnet
from central office to PIX (inside or outside). I can
telnet from central office to servers inside PIX. Is
there any command I need to add on the PIX? According
to CCO, if IPSEC is established, telnet to PIX outside
should work, right?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: ISDN BRI up but does not ping [7:2712]

2001-05-02 Thread Anees uddin

Check your firewall ip routing table.


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RE: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]

2001-05-02 Thread adam lee

You haven't heard?  Willie traded in his expensive sports car for a classic
used car, THE GENERAL LEE.

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EA Louie
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]


Jason - I heard that Willie's latest passion is hillbilly music...right
after filling potholes and tossing the homeless out of GG Park  ;-)

-e-

- Original Message -
From: Jason Roysdon
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]


> Heh, interesting.  Of course, my friend is a white oakie who likes his
> country without all that new-fangled hipness (I say stuff like that to
tease
> him).  You know, with a banjo, and no drums!  Somehow I don't think he has
> any special connections there.
>
> --
> Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
> List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
>
>
>
> ""EA Louie""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > lmao... what timing for that story to come out, just when Jason's
talking
> > about his buddy...
> >
> > -e-
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: adam lee
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:17 PM
> > Subject: RE: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]
> >
> >
> > > Are you sure he's not Willie Brown's friend?
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2001/04/30/MN165362.DTL
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 6:03 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]
> > >
> > >
> > > My friend was hired for the City/County of SF for $96K/year 3 months
ago
> > > with just his CNE.  Plus they bought out the rest of his $150K
contract
> > with
> > > his previous employer, and paid for all the training he owned his
former
> > > employer (he'd been working exclusively for this customer anyway for
the
> > > last 6 mos.)
> > >
> > > Granted, he knows ZEN and can image every PC on their entire network
in
> 15
> > > minutes and replaced 5 help-desk folks who used to do what ZEN does in
a
> > few
> > > clicks of a button (they still kept a few screwdrivers to replace
> > hardware).
> > > And that's just the eye-candy stuff that his manager likes to show
off,
> > he's
> > > got a solid years as a CNE under his belt (and not for mom-and-pop
> > networks,
> > > but for large enterprise clients) plus a year as an understudy before.
> > >
> > > Of course, this guy is sharp as a TAC (pun-intended).  He'll pick up
his
> > > MCSE 2000 by the end of the year if he applies himself (he did the
CNE5
> in
> > 3
> > > months of self-study and building his own servers, plus hands-on
> > experience
> > > as an understudy to some of our ECNE/MCNE's).  That is, if he ever
goes
> > > home.  Heh, he even keeps a cot and a change of clothes at the office
> for
> > > those late nights.
> > >
> > > The funniest thing is that his house cost less than 10 months of his
> gross
> > > salary.  But then he lives out in sticksville (but they do have
> > > cablemodems).
> > >
> > > I dunno, I find it kinda funny because he's the guy that came over
with
> > RH5
> > > one day two years ago and said, "Hey, you wanna install this?" and we
> > > proceeded to waste the night away and piss off both of our Wives.
> Hehee.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
> > > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Brian""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Novell certification, let's look at what kind of jobs that gets you.
> > > >
> > > > 1 a job at a company which is migrating from Novell to NT, and will
> let
> > > > you go when the transition is complete.
> > > >
> > > > 2 a job at a company that is too cheap to replace its legacy
mishmash
> > > > network.
> > > >
> > > > I'll pass either way.
> > > >
> > > > Brian "Sonic" Whalen
> > > > Success = Preparation + Opportunity
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Donald B Johnson jr wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The Grand dad of all certs and now it is sneared at.
> > > > > I am not working on a novell network so I let that slide at 4.11.
> > never
> > > > up'd
> > > > > to 5
> > > > > Don
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Ronnie Poon"
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:18 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: CCIE depreciation in 2 years [7:1882]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > How about Novell CNE. It also have a same thing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Donald B Johnson jr wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah I got a mcse in 96 and thought the same thing when it
> > happened
> > > to
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > program. OH well I still want to be part of the
swelling
> > > ranks.

Re: Multiple VLAN addressing question [7:2905]

2001-05-02 Thread El Pingu

can you explain why one should not use the supervisor module to trunk

eager to know

PQ

Dwayne Saunders wrote:

> For starters I would not use the supervisor module to trunk use one of your
> fast Ethernet port on module Two for the trunk.
>
> D'Wayne Saunders
> Senior MIS Operator,CCNA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Chang)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2001 2:29
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Multiple VLAN addressing question [7:2905]
>
> Dear CiscoGroupstudy.com
>
>  I am having trouble getting the trunk up between a Cisco 7513 Router
>  and a Cisco Switch 5500 so that VLAN's 10 and 20 can cross it. It may
>  be because I can't set interface sc0 on the 5500 switch correctly.
>
>  Assume VLAN 10 is   10.10.0.0/16 port 2/1 on Cisco 5500 switch
> VLAN 20  is  10.20.0.0/16 port 2/2 on Cisco 5500 switch
>
>  Assume ISL Trunk 1/1 connected between 1/1 on Cisco 5500 switch to
>  FastEthernet 3/0/0 to Cisco 7513 Router
>
>  FastEthernet3/0/0.10 = 10.10.1.1
>  FastEthernet3/0/0.20 = 10.20.1.1
>
>  what should I use for the address for interface sc0 on the Switch?
>
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Re: Incorrect link on groupstudy jobs webpage - Re: NEED [7:2999]

2001-05-02 Thread Kevin Wigle

depends on who you're talking about.

it was a "her" that posted to the wrong list and if you read a little closer
it is not "she" that we're complaining about..

it is the "he" (william ward) that wrote: "Claudette needs to pull her head
out of her ass"

and "Dumb bitch. "

So just who are wanting to cut slack???

However I'm sure Paul will get that link fixed.


Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Curtis Call" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 02 May, 2001 22:57
Subject: Incorrect link on groupstudy jobs webpage - Re: NEED CCIE...
[7:2991]


> FYI if you go to the groupstudy website and click on the Employment
Mailing
> list and scroll down to where it tells you how to post messages, it says
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] but if you put your cursor over it you'll notice that
> it actually links you to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  So, given that there is a
> possibility this was posted in error, I think we should cut him some
slack.
>
>
> At 06:18 PM 5/2/01, you wrote:
> >I wanted to jump in but I also didn't want to become Miss Manners for the
> >list   :-)
> >
> >however, I wondered how that got through Paul's many filters.. ??
> >
> >Kevin Wigle
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Bradley J. Wilson"
> >To:
> >Sent: Wednesday, 02 May, 2001 19:52
> >Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> >
> >
> > > Um...Paul, if you would, please ban this guy. :-)  Thanks.
> > >
> > > Johnny, what parting gifts do we have for our contestant?...
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: william ward
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:26 PM
> > > Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> > >
> > >
> > > Claudette needs to pull her head out of her ass and read a trade rag
once
> > > and awhile or do some form research before trying to recruit somebody.
> >Dumb
> > > bitch. And she wants the CCIE to call HER! Lazy and Stupid
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> > > >Reply-To: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> > > >Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:57:25 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Snag, I'm a Cabletron certified CCIE
> > > >Foiled again
> > > >
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: "Chuck Larrieu"
> > > >To:
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:52 AM
> > > >Subject: RE: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Non Cisco certified CCIE's need not apply :->
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf
> >Of
> > > > > Claudette Graham
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:02 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> > > > >
> > > > > The following is a job description I recently received from my
client
> > > >which
> > > > > needs to be filled immediately.
> > > > >
> > > > > We are looking for a Cisco Certified CCIE, living and working in
West
> > > > > Virginia.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please send resume and rates as soon as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > CCIE
> > > > >
> > > > > DURATION: 1 YEAR (CONTRACT)
> > > > >
> > > > > START DATE: 7/1/01 - 6/30/02
> > > > >
> > > > > LOCATION: WEST VIRGINIA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > NEED TO FILL NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, MAY 4TH 2001
> > > > >
> > > > > DESCRIPTION OF WORK ASSIGNMENT:
> > > > >
> > > > > The vendor and/or his protigies should be authorized to ser vice
> 3Com,
> > > > > Nortel Networks, and Enterasys/Cabletron equipment currently
> installed
> > > >in
> > > > > State agencies.
> > > > > The vendor should provide proof from the manufacturer confirming
this
> > > > > authorization to service the equipment and a list of the products
> > > >covered.
> > > > >
> > > > > PROJECT / ENVIRONMENT DESCRIPTION:
> > > > >
> > > > > What type of work is being done?
> > > > > * Custom Application Development
> > > > > * Application Management Outsourcing
> > > > > * Package Integration
> > > > > * Application Enabling Design
> > > > > * Solutions Consulting & Integration
> > > > > * Other network hardware installation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > LOCALS PLEASE
> > > > >
> > > > > PLEASE FORWARD A COPY OF YOUR RESUME AND CALL ME
> > > >IMMEDIATELY...Thanks
> > > > > (:) )
> > > > >
> > > > > Claudette
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > Claudette Graham
> > > > > Technical Recruiter
> > > > > American Employment Solutions, Inc
> > > > > Phone: 800-995-6858
> > > > > Fax: 888-995-8788
> > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Website: www.amesinc.org
> > > > >
> > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:
> > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
> > > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > FAQ, lis

Re: 2924XL for sale [7:2721]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Baker

you can get enterprise versions of the 2900 series well under 1000 new in
box type stuff.

Regards,

Jason Baker

- Original Message -
From: "Tom" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: 2924XL for sale [7:2721]


> List on a WS-C2924-XL-EN is $1995, 38% off is about the best discount a
gold
> partner can get.  That puts it at $1235.  Where can you get 'em for $1000?
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Circusnuts
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 7:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 2924XL for sale [7:2721]
>
>
> Na- new is closer to a $1000.  I paid something like $950 for mine (new
2924
> XL EN), & have definitely seen new models go for more.
>
> Phil
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Jason Baker
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: 2924XL for sale [7:2721]
>
>
> > Lee,
> >
> > just helping you with selling the switch most of buy from ebay.
> >
> > The exact switch you are selling you can pick up for 500 - 700 US
dollars.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jason Baker
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Lee"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 7:45 PM
> > Subject: 2924XL for sale [7:2721]
> >
> >
> > > For sale:
> > >
> > > Cisco 2924XL EN - $1100US
> > >
> > > This is a brand new Cisco Catalyst 2924 XL EN switch still in the box.
> > > This was intended for a home lab but was never needed.
> > >
> > > Lee
> > > Sydney, Australia
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Interpretation of some BGP commands [7:2997]

2001-05-02 Thread suaveguru

hi ,

can anyone tell me what the command below summarises
the address to be ?

network 202.161.128.0 mask 255.255.224.0
 aggregate-address 202.161.128.0 255.255.224.0
summary-only


regards,

suaveguru

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Re: ISIS Routing [7:2977]

2001-05-02 Thread Erick B.

Hi,

ISIS works on broadcast and point-to-point networks
only. On Frame relay, it has to be a point-to-point
subinterface. Try moving your R5/R6 configs to a
point-to-point subinterface and let us know the
results.

Erick

--- Hareish Rane  wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
>  I am bit new to ISIS and working on Mark's Lab 11
> (excluding the ATM LANE).
> When configuring ISIS routing over Framne Relay, I
> cannot get the ISIS to
> form adjacences to with other peer router over Frame
> Relay. I tried all that
> I can think about, searched CCO for references and
> also the group study
> archive. But I can't still figure out what is wroung
> below
> 
>  The R1 is the Frame Relay hub router and R5 and R6
> are spoke routers:
> 
> 
> R1:
> 
> clns routing
> !
> !
> interface Ethernet0/0
>  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip router isis 11
>  no keepalive
> !
> interface Serial0/0
>  no ip address
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  no fair-queue
> !
> interface Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
>  ip address 10.16.1.1 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip router isis 11
>  frame-relay interface-dlci 600
> !
> interface Serial0/0.2 point-to-point
>  ip address 10.13.1.1 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip router isis 11
>  frame-relay interface-dlci 300
> !
> interface Serial0/0.3 point-to-point
>  ip address 10.15.1.1 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip router isis 11
>  frame-relay interface-dlci 500
> !
> router isis 11
>  net 00.0002..0c00..00
> !
> ip classless
> 
> 
> R5:
> 
> clns routing
> !
> !
> !
> !
> !
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 150.10.10.1 255.255.255.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip ospf message-digest-key 1 md5 CCIE
>  ip ospf interface-retry 0
>  ip ospf priority 200
> !
> interface Serial0
>  ip address 10.15.1.2 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  no fair-queue
>  isis circuit-type level-1
>  frame-relay map clns 500 broadcast
>  frame-relay map ip 10.15.1.1 500 broadcast
> !
> !
> router ospf 11
>  area 0 authentication message-digest
>  network 150.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> !
> router isis 11
>  net 00.0002..0c00..00
> !
> ip classless
> !
> 
> R6:
> 
> clns routing
> !
> !
> !
> !
> !
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 10.2.1.1 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip router isis 11
>  no keepalive
> !
> interface Serial0
>  ip address 10.16.1.2 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip router isis 11
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  frame-relay map clns 600 broadcast
>  frame-relay map ip 10.16.1.1 600 broadcast
> !
> interface Serial1
>  no ip address
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  shutdown
> !
> interface BRI0
>  no ip address
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  shutdown
> !
> router isis 11
>  net 00.0002..0c00..00
> !
> ip classless
> !
> 
> 
> Thanking you in advance
> 
> Harish


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Re: ISIS Routing [7:2977]

2001-05-02 Thread Erick B.

Hi,

ISIS works on broadcast and point-to-point networks
only. On Frame relay, it has to be a point-to-point
subinterface. Try moving your R5/R6 configs to a
point-to-point subinterface and let us know the
results.

Erick

--- Hareish Rane  wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
>  I am bit new to ISIS and working on Mark's Lab 11
> (excluding the ATM LANE).
> When configuring ISIS routing over Framne Relay, I
> cannot get the ISIS to
> form adjacences to with other peer router over Frame
> Relay. I tried all that
> I can think about, searched CCO for references and
> also the group study
> archive. But I can't still figure out what is wroung
> below
> 
>  The R1 is the Frame Relay hub router and R5 and R6
> are spoke routers:
> 
> 
> R1:
> 
> clns routing
> !
> !
> interface Ethernet0/0
>  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip router isis 11
>  no keepalive
> !
> interface Serial0/0
>  no ip address
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  no fair-queue
> !
> interface Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
>  ip address 10.16.1.1 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip router isis 11
>  frame-relay interface-dlci 600
> !
> interface Serial0/0.2 point-to-point
>  ip address 10.13.1.1 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip router isis 11
>  frame-relay interface-dlci 300
> !
> interface Serial0/0.3 point-to-point
>  ip address 10.15.1.1 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip router isis 11
>  frame-relay interface-dlci 500
> !
> router isis 11
>  net 00.0002..0c00..00
> !
> ip classless
> 
> 
> R5:
> 
> clns routing
> !
> !
> !
> !
> !
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 150.10.10.1 255.255.255.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip ospf message-digest-key 1 md5 CCIE
>  ip ospf interface-retry 0
>  ip ospf priority 200
> !
> interface Serial0
>  ip address 10.15.1.2 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  no fair-queue
>  isis circuit-type level-1
>  frame-relay map clns 500 broadcast
>  frame-relay map ip 10.15.1.1 500 broadcast
> !
> !
> router ospf 11
>  area 0 authentication message-digest
>  network 150.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> !
> router isis 11
>  net 00.0002..0c00..00
> !
> ip classless
> !
> 
> R6:
> 
> clns routing
> !
> !
> !
> !
> !
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 10.2.1.1 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip router isis 11
>  no keepalive
> !
> interface Serial0
>  ip address 10.16.1.2 255.255.0.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  ip router isis 11
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  frame-relay map clns 600 broadcast
>  frame-relay map ip 10.16.1.1 600 broadcast
> !
> interface Serial1
>  no ip address
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  shutdown
> !
> interface BRI0
>  no ip address
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  shutdown
> !
> router isis 11
>  net 00.0002..0c00..00
> !
> ip classless
> !
> 
> 
> Thanking you in advance
> 
> Harish



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RE: Cisco networking position in NJ [7:2989]

2001-05-02 Thread Raul F. Fernandez

Rut Ro

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ruihai An
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cisco networking position in NJ [7:2989]


ASP company in Parsippany NJ is looking for junior to middle level Cisco
network enginner.  Contact me if you are interested.

Ruihai
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please help me set up multiple VLANs [7:2993]

2001-05-02 Thread Rich Chang

Dear CiscoGroupstudy.com

 I am having trouble getting the trunk up between a Cisco 7513 Router
 and a Cisco Switch 5500 so that VLAN's 10 and 20 can cross it. It may
 be because I can't set interface sc0 on the 5500 switch correctly.

 Assume VLAN 10 is   10.10.0.0/16 port 2/1 on Cisco 5500 switch
VLAN 20  is  10.20.0.0/16 port 2/2 on Cisco 5500 switch

 Assume ISL Trunk 1/1 connected between 1/1 on Cisco 5500 switch to
 FastEthernet 3/0/0 to Cisco 7513 Router

 FastEthernet3/0/0.10 = 10.10.1.1
 FastEthernet3/0/0.20 = 10.20.1.1

 what should I use for the address for interface sc0 on the Switch?

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what is ecp-1 [7:2992]

2001-05-02 Thread Dar

Hi,
I was wondering wots ECP1. And i would like to know if there are some
recommended courses that should really help in the lab prep. Plz let me know
the URL's as well.
Thankyou.




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Incorrect link on groupstudy jobs webpage - Re: NEED CCIE... [7:2991]

2001-05-02 Thread Curtis Call

FYI if you go to the groupstudy website and click on the Employment Mailing 
list and scroll down to where it tells you how to post messages, it says 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] but if you put your cursor over it you'll notice that 
it actually links you to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  So, given that there is a 
possibility this was posted in error, I think we should cut him some slack.


At 06:18 PM 5/2/01, you wrote:
>I wanted to jump in but I also didn't want to become Miss Manners for the
>list   :-)
>
>however, I wondered how that got through Paul's many filters.. ??
>
>Kevin Wigle
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Bradley J. Wilson"
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, 02 May, 2001 19:52
>Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
>
>
> > Um...Paul, if you would, please ban this guy. :-)  Thanks.
> >
> > Johnny, what parting gifts do we have for our contestant?...
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: william ward
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> >
> >
> > Claudette needs to pull her head out of her ass and read a trade rag once
> > and awhile or do some form research before trying to recruit somebody.
>Dumb
> > bitch. And she wants the CCIE to call HER! Lazy and Stupid
> >
> >
> > >From: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> > >Reply-To: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> > >Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:57:25 -0400
> > >
> > >Snag, I'm a Cabletron certified CCIE
> > >Foiled again
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Chuck Larrieu"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:52 AM
> > >Subject: RE: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Non Cisco certified CCIE's need not apply :->
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
>Of
> > > > Claudette Graham
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:02 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> > > >
> > > > The following is a job description I recently received from my client
> > >which
> > > > needs to be filled immediately.
> > > >
> > > > We are looking for a Cisco Certified CCIE, living and working in West
> > > > Virginia.
> > > >
> > > > Please send resume and rates as soon as possible.
> > > >
> > > > CCIE
> > > >
> > > > DURATION: 1 YEAR (CONTRACT)
> > > >
> > > > START DATE: 7/1/01 - 6/30/02
> > > >
> > > > LOCATION: WEST VIRGINIA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NEED TO FILL NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, MAY 4TH 2001
> > > >
> > > > DESCRIPTION OF WORK ASSIGNMENT:
> > > >
> > > > The vendor and/or his protigies should be authorized to ser vice
3Com,
> > > > Nortel Networks, and Enterasys/Cabletron equipment currently
installed
> > >in
> > > > State agencies.
> > > > The vendor should provide proof from the manufacturer confirming this
> > > > authorization to service the equipment and a list of the products
> > >covered.
> > > >
> > > > PROJECT / ENVIRONMENT DESCRIPTION:
> > > >
> > > > What type of work is being done?
> > > > * Custom Application Development
> > > > * Application Management Outsourcing
> > > > * Package Integration
> > > > * Application Enabling Design
> > > > * Solutions Consulting & Integration
> > > > * Other network hardware installation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > LOCALS PLEASE
> > > >
> > > > PLEASE FORWARD A COPY OF YOUR RESUME AND CALL ME
> > >IMMEDIATELY...Thanks
> > > > (:) )
> > > >
> > > > Claudette
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > Claudette Graham
> > > > Technical Recruiter
> > > > American Employment Solutions, Inc
> > > > Phone: 800-995-6858
> > > > Fax: 888-995-8788
> > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Website: www.amesinc.org
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Cisco networking position in NJ [7:2989]

2001-05-02 Thread Ruihai An

ASP company in Parsippany NJ is looking for junior to middle level Cisco
network enginner.  Contact me if you are interested.

Ruihai




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RE: 2924XL for sale [7:2721]

2001-05-02 Thread Tom

List on a WS-C2924-XL-EN is $1995, 38% off is about the best discount a gold
partner can get.  That puts it at $1235.  Where can you get 'em for $1000?



Tom



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Na- new is closer to a $1000.  I paid something like $950 for mine (new 2924
XL EN), & have definitely seen new models go for more.

Phil

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From: Jason Baker
To:
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: 2924XL for sale [7:2721]


> Lee,
>
> just helping you with selling the switch most of buy from ebay.
>
> The exact switch you are selling you can pick up for 500 - 700 US dollars.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jason Baker
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lee"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 7:45 PM
> Subject: 2924XL for sale [7:2721]
>
>
> > For sale:
> >
> > Cisco 2924XL EN - $1100US
> >
> > This is a brand new Cisco Catalyst 2924 XL EN switch still in the box.
> > This was intended for a home lab but was never needed.
> >
> > Lee
> > Sydney, Australia
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switching [7:2987]

2001-05-02 Thread Arumugam Sundarum

Hi Ciscoians,
I am now preparing for BCMSN paper.
Anybody know what is passing points for this and how many question will be
asked ? Time allocated for this exam ??
Any questions that requires typing of CLI ??
Area of important focus ?

rgds.




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Re: NEED CCIE in WEST VIRGINA AREA [7:2986]

2001-05-02 Thread Joe Harris

Claudette,

Please never again send a job posting to a technical news server. There is a
news server set up at groupstudy  specifically for job
postings. The mail sever you sent your job post to is for technical knowledge
sharing and not for head hunting. Thank you for your cooperation with this
matter.

-Joe Harris
CCIE# 6200, Security, Voice
AIM Management
11 Greenway Plaza, Suite 100
Houston, TX.




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RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Medley, Tim

Unfortunately turning off appletalk isn;t as easy as it sounds. It really
depends on the environment.

Mac's can use IP for filesharing, however Appletalk needs to be enabled for
this to work. There are printing issues that arise from disabling appletalk
as well.

tim

I hear and I forget
I see and I believe
I do and I understand
 -Confucius


Tim Medley - CCNA, CCDA
VoIP Engineer
704-943-3615 - Phone
704-525-9119 - Fax
877-6-iReady - Helpdesk



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Chuck Larrieu
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 4:59 PM
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Subject: RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]


The other way to solve the problem would be to delete AppleTalk and use
native IP on your Mac's ;->

( can't wait for PO's response to this one! )

chuck


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Sent:   Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:39 PM
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Subject:Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

It took me 10 times to get the thing to allow me to create a new account
(each time, it would time out when I hit Continue, and when I'd go back all
the form would be blank).  Anyway, from the Knowledgebase at
http://www.apple.com/support/ it appears that portfast or tuning the
spanning tree learning->forwarding time down would solve the problem instead
of just disabling spanning tree.  Also, it appears to not affect TCP/IP
services at all, only AppleTalk (which does it's little song-and-dance at
boot to get a unique address):

http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n30922

TITLE
Spanning Tree Protocol: AppleTalk Issues
Article ID: 30922
Created: 3/10/99
Modified:3/22/01

TOPIC
When the Spanning Tree Protocol is enabled on an Ethernet bridge or switch
port to which a Macintosh computer is directly connected the computer may be
unable to use AppleTalk services.

Enable Fast Convergence

Several switch manufacturers have extended the Spanning Tree Protocol to
allow the convergence time to be reduced. One of the enhancements usually
available is the ability to safely and quickly move the port from the
blocked state (listening and learning) to the forwarding state. For example,
if the bridge detects a single device attached to a port it can quickly
assume that no other bridges are attached to that port and move the port to
the forwarding state almost immediately. Check the manufacturer's
documentation for specific information on how to configure this option for
your switch. For example, Cisco has an option called 'portfast' that can be
enabled on most of their switches. For additional information on this
feature, see: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/12.html

Tune the Forward Delay Timer

The Forward Delay timer can be tuned down to the minimum value. This value
can usually be tuned down to a few seconds, which would give the switch
enough time to move to the forwarding state before the address allocation
packets were sent by the computer. If you choose to use this solution you
must set these timers in the root bridge. The root bridge is the bridge that
transmits these timer settings to all other designated bridges. Although you
can set these timers on any bridge only the root bridge can effect the
overall environment.


Products affected

AppleTalk services
Macintosh computers ranging from the PowerBook 3400 to the latest Power Mac
G4 computers.
Note: TCP/IP based services are not affected.


Question: Why does this only affect later Macintosh computers?

Answer: Later computers start up faster causing the packets used for
AppleTalk address assignment to be sent while the port is still in the
blocked state.

Question: Is Apple planning to change the way AppleTalk addresses are
allocated to fix the problem?

Answer: Apple has no plans to change the algorithms used for AppleTalk
address assignment.


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> There is an Apple knowledgebase article about this issue.
>
> It is Doc#30922.
>
> Ejay Hire
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
>
>
> Believe it or not it's true!  We did some test/research on it and we had
to
> modify some of our login processes to allow the switch to go the  STP
> process for login, it appeared we were requesting to quickly for the
switch.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
>
>
> If it really takes 15-30 seconds for a switch to forward even when
portfast
> is enabled, I can see why AppleTalk nodes would hate this. An AppleTalk
> node sends messages right away to make sure 

Re: Cannot browse Some Website: Try this: www.sitemeter.com [7:2984]

2001-05-02 Thread Will Klein

A couple of things come to mind:
1) Check the NAT translation timeout period. If it's too short, that can
cause problems.
2) Looking at the source code of the site, they are using Java. Is there
anything on the PIX blocking Java?

Let us know.

Will

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> Try with static NAT.Still didn't work. Which version of PIX IOS your
> running?
>
> We are running 5.1
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 4:30 PM
> To: 'Ken Yeo'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Cannot browse Some Website: Try this: www.sitemeter.com
> [7:22 95]
>
>
> We've had that issue going to certain sites. I do know that if you have a
> static NAT in your PIX for the inside host that you will connect. Those
> using dynamic translations won't.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Yeo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:11 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: PIX: Cannot browse Some Website: Try this: www.sitemeter.com
> > [7:2295]
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are having problem to browse this website:
> >
> > www.sitemeter.com
> >
> > Internet explorer will say "Opening page
> > http://www.sitemeter.com"; in the
> > status bar on the bottom and
> > the page never came up. It came back with
> > error:
> >
> > The page cannot be displayed
> > We are able to browse the site using dialup to Netzero and
> > some other dial
> > up ISP.
> > I wonder those of you who use PIX try this site?
> > Our first thought was reserve DNS was not setup so we setup
> > reserve DNS for
> > the NATed IP on the PIX, but still cannot browse the site. Any ideas?
> > Thanks,
> > Ken Yeo
> > Network Engineer,
> > Aurum Technology
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Re: BCRAN exam [7:2890]

2001-05-02 Thread Circusnuts

For certain- know your 700's & a few common commands.

Phil

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: BCRAN exam [7:2890]


> It's not worth your time.  If you know the other areas, 1-3 questions on
it
> won't hurt you (if that, I've heard rumors of 0 questions).
>
> When is Cisco going to EOL those piece of junks?  Sure, sure, they're
great
> cheap desktop routers (ip & ipx), but the 800 line isn't that much more.
>
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> """[EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael (CAP, AFS, Contractor)"""
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> > If this has been asked already forgive me but how much of the Series 700
> is
> > covered on the BCRAN examI'm guessing not that much...
> >
> > thanks in advance,
> >
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ANY ONE ATTENDED CISCO PIX COURSE [7:2982]

2001-05-02 Thread Shibu Pillai

Hello,
I would  appreciate if  any one  could help me  in this .
For  a   cisco pix firewall course  , how  would be  the classroom
setup and  which  book should be followed ( other than the official
curriculum ) .
 Regards,
 Shibu




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Filtering - WAS RE: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2981]

2001-05-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu

As an aside, I was involved in testing an e-mail filtering application that
my boss and his cohort had the bright idea to try to develop back at the
brokerage firm.

The problem for brokers and e-mail was the SEC regulation requiring
supervision of all correspondence - electronic and paper.

Any case, the compliance officer began work developing the lexicon that
would be the basis for flagging messages of interest to supervisors. He
ended up with some several thousand words and phrases. It turned into a
nightmare project for a lot of reasons. But it was interesting to learn
first hand the issues surrounding filter triggers based on words.

The trade off is speed versus thoroughness.  Want messages to take hours to
post, be thorough in your filters. Want reasonable posting times, cut back
on what is filtered. Happy medium? Respond to complaints individually and
make adjustments as things arise.

Chuck

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Subject:Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]

I wanted to jump in but I also didn't want to become Miss Manners for the
list   :-)

however, I wondered how that got through Paul's many filters.. ??

Kevin Wigle

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To:
Sent: Wednesday, 02 May, 2001 19:52
Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]


> Um...Paul, if you would, please ban this guy. :-)  Thanks.
>
> Johnny, what parting gifts do we have for our contestant?...
>
>
> - Original Message -
snip




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RE: Specializations MCNS-Response from Cisco [7:1959]

2001-05-02 Thread Greg Macaulay

No -- the security specialization (with one exam) ended in January sometime.
Now it's four exams.  There are other CCNP specializations like VOIP, and
ATM that require only one exam that are still obtainable until May 14.

Good luck.

Greg Macaulay
oldest CCNP/DP on earth
lifetime member of AARP
retired attorney/law professor

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I also got this "template" answer twice when I contacted Cisco through the
Certification Tracking System. They ignored my specific question and sent me
the same prewritten answer.

So I still do not know CCNP+MCNS before May 14th is CCNP+Security or what?

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Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]

2001-05-02 Thread EA Louie

A decrease in his inbound and outbound email volume.  That would be a pretty
lovely parting gift, wouldn't you say?

Oh, and a partridge in a pear tree.

;-)

-e-

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]


> Um...Paul, if you would, please ban this guy. :-)  Thanks.
>
> Johnny, what parting gifts do we have for our contestant?...
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: william ward
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
>
>
> Claudette needs to pull her head out of her ass and read a trade rag once
> and awhile or do some form research before trying to recruit somebody.
Dumb
> bitch. And she wants the CCIE to call HER! Lazy and Stupid
>
>
> >From: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> >Reply-To: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> >Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:57:25 -0400
> >
> >Snag, I'm a Cabletron certified CCIE
> >Foiled again
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Chuck Larrieu"
> >To:
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:52 AM
> >Subject: RE: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> >
> >
> > > Non Cisco certified CCIE's need not apply :->
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
> > > Claudette Graham
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:02 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> > >
> > > The following is a job description I recently received from my client
> >which
> > > needs to be filled immediately.
> > >
> > > We are looking for a Cisco Certified CCIE, living and working in West
> > > Virginia.
> > >
> > > Please send resume and rates as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > CCIE
> > >
> > > DURATION: 1 YEAR (CONTRACT)
> > >
> > > START DATE: 7/1/01 - 6/30/02
> > >
> > > LOCATION: WEST VIRGINIA
> > >
> > >
> > > NEED TO FILL NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, MAY 4TH 2001
> > >
> > > DESCRIPTION OF WORK ASSIGNMENT:
> > >
> > > The vendor and/or his protigies should be authorized to ser vice 3Com,
> > > Nortel Networks, and Enterasys/Cabletron equipment currently installed
> >in
> > > State agencies.
> > > The vendor should provide proof from the manufacturer confirming this
> > > authorization to service the equipment and a list of the products
> >covered.
> > >
> > > PROJECT / ENVIRONMENT DESCRIPTION:
> > >
> > > What type of work is being done?
> > > * Custom Application Development
> > > * Application Management Outsourcing
> > > * Package Integration
> > > * Application Enabling Design
> > > * Solutions Consulting & Integration
> > > * Other network hardware installation
> > >
> > >
> > > LOCALS PLEASE
> > >
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> >IMMEDIATELY...Thanks
> > > (:) )
> > >
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> > >
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Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]

2001-05-02 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

Bigotry and tiny-mindedness are often hard for a computer to spot.


- Original Message -
From: Kevin Wigle
To: Bradley J. Wilson ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]


I wanted to jump in but I also didn't want to become Miss Manners for the
list   :-)

however, I wondered how that got through Paul's many filters.. ??

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Bradley J. Wilson" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 02 May, 2001 19:52
Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]


> Um...Paul, if you would, please ban this guy. :-)  Thanks.
>
> Johnny, what parting gifts do we have for our contestant?...
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: william ward
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
>
>
> Claudette needs to pull her head out of her ass and read a trade rag once
> and awhile or do some form research before trying to recruit somebody.
Dumb
> bitch. And she wants the CCIE to call HER! Lazy and Stupid
>
>
> >From: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> >Reply-To: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> >Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:57:25 -0400
> >
> >Snag, I'm a Cabletron certified CCIE
> >Foiled again
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Chuck Larrieu"
> >To:
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:52 AM
> >Subject: RE: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> >
> >
> > > Non Cisco certified CCIE's need not apply :->
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
> > > Claudette Graham
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:02 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> > >
> > > The following is a job description I recently received from my client
> >which
> > > needs to be filled immediately.
> > >
> > > We are looking for a Cisco Certified CCIE, living and working in West
> > > Virginia.
> > >
> > > Please send resume and rates as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > CCIE
> > >
> > > DURATION: 1 YEAR (CONTRACT)
> > >
> > > START DATE: 7/1/01 - 6/30/02
> > >
> > > LOCATION: WEST VIRGINIA
> > >
> > >
> > > NEED TO FILL NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, MAY 4TH 2001
> > >
> > > DESCRIPTION OF WORK ASSIGNMENT:
> > >
> > > The vendor and/or his protigies should be authorized to ser vice 3Com,
> > > Nortel Networks, and Enterasys/Cabletron equipment currently installed
> >in
> > > State agencies.
> > > The vendor should provide proof from the manufacturer confirming this
> > > authorization to service the equipment and a list of the products
> >covered.
> > >
> > > PROJECT / ENVIRONMENT DESCRIPTION:
> > >
> > > What type of work is being done?
> > > * Custom Application Development
> > > * Application Management Outsourcing
> > > * Package Integration
> > > * Application Enabling Design
> > > * Solutions Consulting & Integration
> > > * Other network hardware installation
> > >
> > >
> > > LOCALS PLEASE
> > >
> > > PLEASE FORWARD A COPY OF YOUR RESUME AND CALL ME
> >IMMEDIATELY...Thanks
> > > (:) )
> > >
> > > Claudette
> > >
> > >
> > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > Claudette Graham
> > > Technical Recruiter
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ISIS Routing [7:2977]

2001-05-02 Thread Hareish Rane

Hi Folks,

 I am bit new to ISIS and working on Mark's Lab 11 (excluding the ATM LANE).
When configuring ISIS routing over Framne Relay, I cannot get the ISIS to
form adjacences to with other peer router over Frame Relay. I tried all that
I can think about, searched CCO for references and also the group study
archive. But I can't still figure out what is wroung below

 The R1 is the Frame Relay hub router and R5 and R6 are spoke routers:


R1:

clns routing
!
!
interface Ethernet0/0
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip router isis 11
 no keepalive
!
interface Serial0/0
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no ip mroute-cache
 no fair-queue
!
interface Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
 ip address 10.16.1.1 255.255.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip router isis 11
 frame-relay interface-dlci 600
!
interface Serial0/0.2 point-to-point
 ip address 10.13.1.1 255.255.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip router isis 11
 frame-relay interface-dlci 300
!
interface Serial0/0.3 point-to-point
 ip address 10.15.1.1 255.255.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip router isis 11
 frame-relay interface-dlci 500
!
router isis 11
 net 00.0002..0c00..00
!
ip classless


R5:

clns routing
!
!
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 150.10.10.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip ospf message-digest-key 1 md5 CCIE
 ip ospf interface-retry 0
 ip ospf priority 200
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 10.15.1.2 255.255.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no ip mroute-cache
 no fair-queue
 isis circuit-type level-1
 frame-relay map clns 500 broadcast
 frame-relay map ip 10.15.1.1 500 broadcast
!
!
router ospf 11
 area 0 authentication message-digest
 network 150.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
!
router isis 11
 net 00.0002..0c00..00
!
ip classless
!

R6:

clns routing
!
!
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 10.2.1.1 255.255.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip router isis 11
 no keepalive
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 10.16.1.2 255.255.0.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip router isis 11
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no ip mroute-cache
 frame-relay map clns 600 broadcast
 frame-relay map ip 10.16.1.1 600 broadcast
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface BRI0
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
router isis 11
 net 00.0002..0c00..00
!
ip classless
!


Thanking you in advance

Harish




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Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]

2001-05-02 Thread Kevin Wigle

I wanted to jump in but I also didn't want to become Miss Manners for the
list   :-)

however, I wondered how that got through Paul's many filters.. ??

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Bradley J. Wilson" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 02 May, 2001 19:52
Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]


> Um...Paul, if you would, please ban this guy. :-)  Thanks.
>
> Johnny, what parting gifts do we have for our contestant?...
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: william ward
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
>
>
> Claudette needs to pull her head out of her ass and read a trade rag once
> and awhile or do some form research before trying to recruit somebody.
Dumb
> bitch. And she wants the CCIE to call HER! Lazy and Stupid
>
>
> >From: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> >Reply-To: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> >Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:57:25 -0400
> >
> >Snag, I'm a Cabletron certified CCIE
> >Foiled again
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Chuck Larrieu"
> >To:
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:52 AM
> >Subject: RE: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> >
> >
> > > Non Cisco certified CCIE's need not apply :->
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
> > > Claudette Graham
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:02 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> > >
> > > The following is a job description I recently received from my client
> >which
> > > needs to be filled immediately.
> > >
> > > We are looking for a Cisco Certified CCIE, living and working in West
> > > Virginia.
> > >
> > > Please send resume and rates as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > CCIE
> > >
> > > DURATION: 1 YEAR (CONTRACT)
> > >
> > > START DATE: 7/1/01 - 6/30/02
> > >
> > > LOCATION: WEST VIRGINIA
> > >
> > >
> > > NEED TO FILL NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, MAY 4TH 2001
> > >
> > > DESCRIPTION OF WORK ASSIGNMENT:
> > >
> > > The vendor and/or his protigies should be authorized to ser vice 3Com,
> > > Nortel Networks, and Enterasys/Cabletron equipment currently installed
> >in
> > > State agencies.
> > > The vendor should provide proof from the manufacturer confirming this
> > > authorization to service the equipment and a list of the products
> >covered.
> > >
> > > PROJECT / ENVIRONMENT DESCRIPTION:
> > >
> > > What type of work is being done?
> > > * Custom Application Development
> > > * Application Management Outsourcing
> > > * Package Integration
> > > * Application Enabling Design
> > > * Solutions Consulting & Integration
> > > * Other network hardware installation
> > >
> > >
> > > LOCALS PLEASE
> > >
> > > PLEASE FORWARD A COPY OF YOUR RESUME AND CALL ME
> >IMMEDIATELY...Thanks
> > > (:) )
> > >
> > > Claudette
> > >
> > >
> > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > Claudette Graham
> > > Technical Recruiter
> > > American Employment Solutions, Inc
> > > Phone: 800-995-6858
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Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Hey, it's fine with me. IP has finally caught up to the 1984 features of 
AppleTalk (dynamic addressing, service location protocol). ;-)

At 06:25 PM 5/2/01, Tom Lisa wrote:
>Chuck, you do like living dangerously, don't you?!! :)
>
>Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
>Community College of Southern Nevada
>Cisco Regional Networking Academy
>
>Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>
> > The other way to solve the problem would be to delete AppleTalk and use
> > native IP on your Mac's ;->
> >
> > ( can't wait for PO's response to this one! )
> >
> > chuck
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:39 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
> >
> > It took me 10 times to get the thing to allow me to create a new account
> > (each time, it would time out when I hit Continue, and when I'd go back
all
> > the form would be blank).  Anyway, from the Knowledgebase at
> > http://www.apple.com/support/ it appears that portfast or tuning the
> > spanning tree learning->forwarding time down would solve the problem
>instead
> > of just disabling spanning tree.  Also, it appears to not affect TCP/IP
> > services at all, only AppleTalk (which does it's little song-and-dance at
> > boot to get a unique address):
> >
> > http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n30922
> >
> > TITLE
> > Spanning Tree Protocol: AppleTalk Issues
> > Article ID: 30922
> > Created: 3/10/99
> > Modified:3/22/01
> >
> > TOPIC
> > When the Spanning Tree Protocol is enabled on an Ethernet bridge or
switch
> > port to which a Macintosh computer is directly connected the computer may
>be
> > unable to use AppleTalk services.
> >
> > Enable Fast Convergence
> >
> > Several switch manufacturers have extended the Spanning Tree Protocol to
> > allow the convergence time to be reduced. One of the enhancements usually
> > available is the ability to safely and quickly move the port from the
> > blocked state (listening and learning) to the forwarding state. For
>example,
> > if the bridge detects a single device attached to a port it can quickly
> > assume that no other bridges are attached to that port and move the port
to
> > the forwarding state almost immediately. Check the manufacturer's
> > documentation for specific information on how to configure this option
for
> > your switch. For example, Cisco has an option called 'portfast' that can
be
> > enabled on most of their switches. For additional information on this
> > feature, see: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/12.html
> >
> > Tune the Forward Delay Timer
> >
> > The Forward Delay timer can be tuned down to the minimum value. This
value
> > can usually be tuned down to a few seconds, which would give the switch
> > enough time to move to the forwarding state before the address allocation
> > packets were sent by the computer. If you choose to use this solution you
> > must set these timers in the root bridge. The root bridge is the bridge
>that
> > transmits these timer settings to all other designated bridges. Although
>you
> > can set these timers on any bridge only the root bridge can effect the
> > overall environment.
> >
> > Products affected
> >
> > AppleTalk services
> > Macintosh computers ranging from the PowerBook 3400 to the latest Power
Mac
> > G4 computers.
> > Note: TCP/IP based services are not affected.
> >
> > Question: Why does this only affect later Macintosh computers?
> >
> > Answer: Later computers start up faster causing the packets used for
> > AppleTalk address assignment to be sent while the port is still in the
> > blocked state.
> >
> > Question: Is Apple planning to change the way AppleTalk addresses are
> > allocated to fix the problem?
> >
> > Answer: Apple has no plans to change the algorithms used for AppleTalk
> > address assignment.
> >
> > --
> > Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
> > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
> >
> > ""Hire, Ejay""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > There is an Apple knowledgebase article about this issue.
> > >
> > > It is Doc#30922.
> > >
> > > Ejay Hire
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:01 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
> > >
> > >
> > > Believe it or not it's true!  We did some test/research on it and we
had
> > to
> > > modify some of our login processes to allow the switch to go the  STP
> > > process for login, it appeared we were requesting to quickly for the
> > switch.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:42 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
> > >
> > >
> > > If it really takes 15-30 seconds for a switch to forward even when
> > po

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 06:12 PM 5/2/01, Jason Roysdon wrote:
>True about that being a long time, but I think that's just a matter of how
>fast did I plug it in, and how long did it take for my NIC to see it (and
>which is a good 1 second delay from when I plug it in and when the NIC LED
>goes green).

Yes, I see what you're saying. I think as long as portfast is enabled, 
AppleTalk devices should be OK. That's the bottom line. Thanks for all your 
testing!

Priscilla


>The one thing I forgot to test was without spanning tree enabled.  I tested
>the switch with 'no spanning-tree' for 10 times, and 10 times with it
>optimally configured with spanning tree on (portfast, full duplex, 100mbit,
>power inline never).  The hardest thing to test is that Win2k will generate
>"Destination host unreachable." when no TCP/IP interfaces are up.  It seemed
>that if instead of letting a constant ping run and watch pagefulls of those
>messages go by, I would instead hit enter as soon as I saw the NIC LED go
>green.  This definately produces faster results (since the stack isn't being
>accessed, perhaps it initilizes faster?).
>
>Anyway, at first I forgot I had DHCP running and was wondering why it was
>taking so long (5-7 seconds).  It acted the same with spanning tree
>disabled, and optimized as stated above.  When I configured a static
>address, it dropped to 3-4 seconds for both, just as before.
>
>Of course, this isn't scientific, and Win2k doesn't really let you test the
>way you could with Win9x or even NT4 (where you could leave it pinging, and
>it would just sit there and respond with normal timeouts).  Oh, growl, I
>just remembered I have Win98SE on this laptop.  I'll save this post and go
>try it out.
>
>Ok, so I just rebooted to Win98.  I must say, it handles lose of
>connectivity much better than Win2k, IMHO.  I guess it all depends on what
>you want it to do:  If it's a server/router, then you want the IP stack to
>know right away when there is a lost connection and drop it; if it's a
>desktop, you don't want to concern the user too fast (so long as the NIC
>gets plugged back in rather fast, or they're not generating IP traffic, no
>big deal).
>
>What I dislike on Win2k is that the second you lose your connection, you
>lose your DHCP lease (it remembers it and will try to renegotiate for it,
>but that IP/NIC is gone from the stack).  With Win98, you still have it, so
>no need to re-negotiate for it when your connection comes back.  That
>explains why DHCP was taking 2 extra seconds with Win2k (my DHCP server
>pings twice to make sure it's not in use before giving it back out).  Win98
>never checks the DHCP lease due to cable loss, so long as the lease is still
>valid.
>
>Anyway, the results seemed to show no discernable different between
>optimized spanning tree, and diabled spanning tree.  I also tested with
>using 'shutdown' and 'no shutdown' instead of physically removing the cable.
>Much easier, but the results were the same (my NIC couldn't tell the
>difference).  3-4 seconds after bringing the the switch interface up,
>pinging would start.  The biggest thing I ran into with Win98 is that I
>couldn't shut/no shut or unplug/plug too fast, or it would never bring the
>stack back up no matter how long I left it (even though the NIC LED was on).
>I needed to let it have a good 1-2 seconds of disconnect for it to work.
>
>Perhaps Apple can tell the difference, but 3-4 seconds seemed constant with
>or without spanning tree.  Perhaps some of the other Cisco switches or OS
>bases do things differently, but I don't have access to anything else at the
>moment.  Anyone else want to post some results with other gear?  I was using
>'debug spanning events' and 'debug interface f0/6' to see the original
>content I was posting.
>
>--
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>List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
>
>
>
>""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> > Thanks for the testing! I have bad news for you. ;-) Three or 4 seconds
is
> > a lot of time.
> >
> > An AppleTalk device sends its AARP frame to see if its address is unique
>10
> > times, with only 1/5 of a second between tries. Then it sends a
> > ZIPGetNetInfo. It tries that 3 times, I think with the same timeout. This
> > could happen before the switch is forwarding, even with portfast enabled
>it
> > seems. (These timeout values may be dated. I haven't looked at AppleTalk
>in
> > a while! But I bet it's still really fast, perhaps even faster on a G4?
>;-)
> >
> > My guess is that IPX and DHCP are really fast too. ARGH.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 03:15 PM 5/2/01, Jason Roysdon wrote:
> > >I wonder what switch and software version you were running at the time?
>I'm
> > >trying this on a Catalyst 3524 XL Inline Power running 12.0(5.2)XU (I
> > >haven't upgraded it, so that's whatever it shipped with).
> > >
> > >I did a number of tests (but not enough samples to make it 100% accurat

Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]

2001-05-02 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

Um...Paul, if you would, please ban this guy. :-)  Thanks.

Johnny, what parting gifts do we have for our contestant?...


- Original Message -
From: william ward
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]


Claudette needs to pull her head out of her ass and read a trade rag once
and awhile or do some form research before trying to recruit somebody. Dumb
bitch. And she wants the CCIE to call HER! Lazy and Stupid


>From: "Donald B Johnson jr"
>Reply-To: "Donald B Johnson jr"
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
>Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:57:25 -0400
>
>Snag, I'm a Cabletron certified CCIE
>Foiled again
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Chuck Larrieu"
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:52 AM
>Subject: RE: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
>
>
> > Non Cisco certified CCIE's need not apply :->
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > Claudette Graham
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:02 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> >
> > The following is a job description I recently received from my client
>which
> > needs to be filled immediately.
> >
> > We are looking for a Cisco Certified CCIE, living and working in West
> > Virginia.
> >
> > Please send resume and rates as soon as possible.
> >
> > CCIE
> >
> > DURATION: 1 YEAR (CONTRACT)
> >
> > START DATE: 7/1/01 - 6/30/02
> >
> > LOCATION: WEST VIRGINIA
> >
> >
> > NEED TO FILL NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, MAY 4TH 2001
> >
> > DESCRIPTION OF WORK ASSIGNMENT:
> >
> > The vendor and/or his protigies should be authorized to ser vice 3Com,
> > Nortel Networks, and Enterasys/Cabletron equipment currently installed
>in
> > State agencies.
> > The vendor should provide proof from the manufacturer confirming this
> > authorization to service the equipment and a list of the products
>covered.
> >
> > PROJECT / ENVIRONMENT DESCRIPTION:
> >
> > What type of work is being done?
> > * Custom Application Development
> > * Application Management Outsourcing
> > * Package Integration
> > * Application Enabling Design
> > * Solutions Consulting & Integration
> > * Other network hardware installation
> >
> >
> > LOCALS PLEASE
> >
> > PLEASE FORWARD A COPY OF YOUR RESUME AND CALL ME
>IMMEDIATELY...Thanks
> > (:) )
> >
> > Claudette
> >
> >
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > Claudette Graham
> > Technical Recruiter
> > American Employment Solutions, Inc
> > Phone: 800-995-6858
> > Fax: 888-995-8788
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Website: www.amesinc.org
> >
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Re: OFF TOPIC -Job Offer without Interview?? [7:2369]

2001-05-02 Thread william ward

I used to work for Ingram Micro and I managed a number of the Cisco VAR 
accounts. They have to have a certain number of cisco certified engineers on 
staff to qualify for the various partner levels with Cisco. Cisco also gives 
them deep pocket discounts depending on that level (somewhere in the 
neighborhood of 25-33 percent off list. Sorry to say but your just a number 
and a discount coupon to this shop. I say that because they don't really 
seem to care what kind of experience you have or what kind of appearance you 
make, only that you have a cert number with the vendor that either maintains 
or upgrades their partner status.


>From: "Jonathan Hays" 
>Reply-To: "Jonathan Hays" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC -Job Offer without Interview?? [7:2369]
>Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:10:25 -0400
>
>The reseller may be desperate for certified people which means they WILL
>take any warm
>body. But another aspect of this situation is that you need to take charge
>of your part
>of the interview - remember it's a two-party transaction. My advice  - 
>Never
>take a job
>or promise to take a job without seeing the working environment and meeting
>your boss
>and coworkers. In fact if the employer doesn't want to go through the whole
>normal
>process you should politely insist on it - ask all the questions, etc. I
>speak from
>experience. I had a very lucrative and firm contract offer and start date
>over the phone
>about 3 years ago and I demanded a face-to-face plus a tour of the working
>environment.
>The interview was very disappointing and I turned down the offer.
>
>Jonathan
>
>"Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, you are running into something endemic to the DC area,
> > especially the Federal government. Agencies have head count
> > restrictions, but still need staffing.  So, there have evolved a
> > class of brokers that rent out people to the using organizations.
> > The brokers often mark up your rate by 100% or more, although they do
> > have to float receivables for 60 days or more.
> >
> > Becoming a Cisco partner just needs the right certificated people,
> > which, at the lower level, could be the principals.  As I remember,
> > though, continued partner status also means a certain level of sales.
> > A pure body shop won't have equipment sales.  Unfortunately again,
> > it's often easier for government agencies to deal with a small
> > business reseller, perhaps under minority business 8(a) setasides --
> > they can just go make small purchases without complex procurement.
> >
> > Don't expect any real support from your direct employer, but keep an
> > open mind about the client.  I spent three good solid years at the US
> > Labor Department as an ostensibly "temporary contractor," which is
> > where I really broke into system programming and networking. Some
> > clients exploit the system, but others recognize that it's really
> > their job to motivate the contractors and can be quite decent to
> > them.  Good clients may find loopholes for such things as training --
> > they can't pay your salary to attend an offsite class, but they may
> > have in-house classes and let you "drop in" -- even with credit.
> >
> > >Hey Group,
> > >
> > >Thanks for all the input -- I really do appreciate it.
> > >
> > >Just to add a few facts to this -- the company that called me -- is a
>Cisco
> > >SILVER partner -- not simply a pure unadulterated head-hunter -- sort 
>of a
> > >hybrid (like EIGRP!! ).
> > >
> > >Of course it goes without saying that -- as one person said -- it's an
> > >on-the-job-interview. If I -- or any of the others who report on day 1
> > >aren't acceptable -- then we simply are not there on Day 2.  But what 
>does
> > >it say about the Silver Partner?? Is this guy honest?? If he fails to
> > >properly screen the people he sends to the client -- isn't he -- at the
>very
> > >least -- intellectually dishonest?? And if that's true -- how would he
>treat
> > >his employees?? Would he promise the moon (e.g. oh yeah, paychecks 
>every
>two
> > >weeks) and then not come through??
> > >
> > >Who is our loyalty to go towars?? The client -- who we know is being 
>given
> > >less than bargained for -- or the guy who's paying for our salary?? I
> > >already know the practical answer -- but somewhere in those Cisco books 
>we
> > >all study -- I'm sure it also says that we are to have honesty and
>integrity
> > >in our dealings with clients. Doesn't it?? Oh well. . . .
> > >
> > >Thanks again to all of you for your time in answering.
> > >
> > >Gerg Macaulay
> > >Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth (really!!!)
> > >Lifetime member of AARP
> > >Retired Attorney/Law Professor
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > >Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 2:38 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC -Job Offer without Interview?? [7:2369]
> > >
> > >
> > >I think it would 

CCDA [7:2971]

2001-05-02 Thread Kevin Wigle

Dear Group,

I guess I've been sleeping again..

It used to be the case that getting CCDA meant that you have passed CCNA and
DCN.

However looking at CCO, it seems that CCDA is now a one exam cert also -
although:

CCDA Prerequisites

Knowledge and skills to install, configure, and operate small networks. CCNA
certification is highly recommended.<- But not required!!

Making it easier to get the junior certs I guess.  Whether that is a good
thing


Kevin Wigle




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Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]

2001-05-02 Thread william ward

Claudette needs to pull her head out of her ass and read a trade rag once 
and awhile or do some form research before trying to recruit somebody. Dumb 
bitch. And she wants the CCIE to call HER! Lazy and Stupid


>From: "Donald B Johnson jr" 
>Reply-To: "Donald B Johnson jr" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
>Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:57:25 -0400
>
>Snag, I'm a Cabletron certified CCIE
>Foiled again
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Chuck Larrieu"
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:52 AM
>Subject: RE: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
>
>
> > Non Cisco certified CCIE's need not apply :->
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > Claudette Graham
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:02 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
> >
> > The following is a job description I recently received from my client
>which
> > needs to be filled immediately.
> >
> > We are looking for a Cisco Certified CCIE, living and working in West
> > Virginia.
> >
> > Please send resume and rates as soon as possible.
> >
> > CCIE
> >
> > DURATION: 1 YEAR (CONTRACT)
> >
> > START DATE: 7/1/01 - 6/30/02
> >
> > LOCATION: WEST VIRGINIA
> >
> >
> > NEED TO FILL NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, MAY 4TH 2001
> >
> > DESCRIPTION OF WORK ASSIGNMENT:
> >
> > The vendor and/or his protigies should be authorized to ser vice 3Com,
> > Nortel Networks, and Enterasys/Cabletron equipment currently installed 
>in
> > State agencies.
> > The vendor should provide proof from the manufacturer confirming this
> > authorization to service the equipment and a list of the products 
>covered.
> >
> > PROJECT / ENVIRONMENT DESCRIPTION:
> >
> > What type of work is being done?
> > * Custom Application Development
> > * Application Management Outsourcing
> > * Package Integration
> > * Application Enabling Design
> > * Solutions Consulting & Integration
> > * Other network hardware installation
> >
> >
> > LOCALS PLEASE
> >
> > PLEASE FORWARD A COPY OF YOUR RESUME AND CALL ME 
>IMMEDIATELY...Thanks
> > (:) )
> >
> > Claudette
> >
> >
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > Claudette Graham
> > Technical Recruiter
> > American Employment Solutions, Inc
> > Phone: 800-995-6858
> > Fax: 888-995-8788
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Website: www.amesinc.org
> >
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Re: **LAB SWAP = SAN JOSE** [7:2968]

2001-05-02 Thread Al Walter

Please don't respond to the "Jim Redford" address. I was at a friends
computer.

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just
> that learned that I'm getting shipped off on a one month contract ... far
> away from my practice lab.
>
> I would be willing to trade for a July/August (maybe even early Sept.)
date
> in San Jose.
>
> Please respond offline
>
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**LAB SWAP = SAN JOSE** [7:2968]

2001-05-02 Thread Jim Redford

I have a seat in the R/S lab in San Jose scheduled for May 31st. I also just
that learned that I'm getting shipped off on a one month contract ... far
away from my practice lab.

I would be willing to trade for a July/August (maybe even early Sept.) date
in San Jose.

Please respond offline


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Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Tom Lisa

Chuck, you do like living dangerously, don't you?!! :)

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy

Chuck Larrieu wrote:

> The other way to solve the problem would be to delete AppleTalk and use
> native IP on your Mac's ;->
>
> ( can't wait for PO's response to this one! )
>
> chuck
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:   Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
>
> It took me 10 times to get the thing to allow me to create a new account
> (each time, it would time out when I hit Continue, and when I'd go back all
> the form would be blank).  Anyway, from the Knowledgebase at
> http://www.apple.com/support/ it appears that portfast or tuning the
> spanning tree learning->forwarding time down would solve the problem
instead
> of just disabling spanning tree.  Also, it appears to not affect TCP/IP
> services at all, only AppleTalk (which does it's little song-and-dance at
> boot to get a unique address):
>
> http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n30922
>
> TITLE
> Spanning Tree Protocol: AppleTalk Issues
> Article ID: 30922
> Created: 3/10/99
> Modified:3/22/01
>
> TOPIC
> When the Spanning Tree Protocol is enabled on an Ethernet bridge or switch
> port to which a Macintosh computer is directly connected the computer may
be
> unable to use AppleTalk services.
>
> Enable Fast Convergence
>
> Several switch manufacturers have extended the Spanning Tree Protocol to
> allow the convergence time to be reduced. One of the enhancements usually
> available is the ability to safely and quickly move the port from the
> blocked state (listening and learning) to the forwarding state. For
example,
> if the bridge detects a single device attached to a port it can quickly
> assume that no other bridges are attached to that port and move the port to
> the forwarding state almost immediately. Check the manufacturer's
> documentation for specific information on how to configure this option for
> your switch. For example, Cisco has an option called 'portfast' that can be
> enabled on most of their switches. For additional information on this
> feature, see: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/12.html
>
> Tune the Forward Delay Timer
>
> The Forward Delay timer can be tuned down to the minimum value. This value
> can usually be tuned down to a few seconds, which would give the switch
> enough time to move to the forwarding state before the address allocation
> packets were sent by the computer. If you choose to use this solution you
> must set these timers in the root bridge. The root bridge is the bridge
that
> transmits these timer settings to all other designated bridges. Although
you
> can set these timers on any bridge only the root bridge can effect the
> overall environment.
>
> Products affected
>
> AppleTalk services
> Macintosh computers ranging from the PowerBook 3400 to the latest Power Mac
> G4 computers.
> Note: TCP/IP based services are not affected.
>
> Question: Why does this only affect later Macintosh computers?
>
> Answer: Later computers start up faster causing the packets used for
> AppleTalk address assignment to be sent while the port is still in the
> blocked state.
>
> Question: Is Apple planning to change the way AppleTalk addresses are
> allocated to fix the problem?
>
> Answer: Apple has no plans to change the algorithms used for AppleTalk
> address assignment.
>
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>
> ""Hire, Ejay""  wrote in message
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> > There is an Apple knowledgebase article about this issue.
> >
> > It is Doc#30922.
> >
> > Ejay Hire
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:01 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
> >
> >
> > Believe it or not it's true!  We did some test/research on it and we had
> to
> > modify some of our login processes to allow the switch to go the  STP
> > process for login, it appeared we were requesting to quickly for the
> switch.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:42 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
> >
> >
> > If it really takes 15-30 seconds for a switch to forward even when
> portfast
> > is enabled, I can see why AppleTalk nodes would hate this. An AppleTalk
> > node sends messages right away to make sure its own address is unique,
and
> > to find the nearest router, and verify the network number(s) and zone
> > name(s) for its local network. If the switch isn't forwarding these
> frames,
> > the Mac will think it's on a non-routed single network, when it probably
> > isn't. Worst of al

RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Christopher Supino

Seen it first hand. Similar environment. Large private school. Spanning tree
on a MacIntosh Network. Seemed to hose everything nicely. Not to mention the
fact that there were 600 AT nodes on the ethernet network(thats a no-no).

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Oh, speaking of AppleTalk.  We've got a customer (not mine, but one of the
engineers working the account bounced this off me):  They claim their new
Macs can't access the network if Spanning Tree is enabled.  Supposedly this
has been verified by Apple and TAC (but we've never had a customer lie to
us, so that must be gospel, right.  Heh, not).  I don't know what exactly
the details are, but basically it just doesn't function.  The simple
solution is to kill spanning-tree on all the switches, but this is at a
number of public schools, and I can't wait to hear about a kid bringing in
his Linksys 8 port 10/100 switch and melting their network.

Anyone else hear such rumors?

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> At 11:08 AM 4/30/01, Phil Barker wrote:
> >Strongly in favour,
> >
> >A similar problem occurs in an IPX environment.
> >Make sure all Servers/Clients are 'portfast' and
> >switch/switch disable 'portfast'.
>
> A similar problem happens with AppleTalk too. That's what we get for
> expecting switches to replace hubs in a topology. ;-) They were designed
as
> bridges and to talk to other bridges. Despite switches being the
> new-fangled thing (well, sort of new), a lot of their functionality is
> vintage 1980s.
>
> Priscilla
>
>
> >Regards,
> >
> >Phil.
> >--- John Gotti  wrote: > Hey
> >all...we are having a problem where workstations
> > > sporatically will not
> > > be able to obtain an IP address from our DHCP
> > > server. After about 4 minutes,
> > > you can perform a manual renew from WINIPCFG and you
> > > get your IP address.
> > > This has baffled me for quite some time and I have
> > > recently been told it is
> > > our Cisco 2924 Switch to blame. The story I was told
> > > is below. I welcome any
> > > comments for or against this opinion. Thank you for
> > > your time.
> > >
> > >
> > > "It appears the problem is connected to the
> > > spanning tree algorithm used
> > > by the CISCO switches. By default, ports on the
> > > switch block as they are
> > > initialised; during this phase the port is in its
> > > spanning tree algorithm
> > > learning and listening state - it is not
> > > forwarding. This is specifically
> > > aimed at ports that will be used to connect to other
> > > switches/routers in a
> > > stack. After a default time (4 mins?) they switch to
> > > the standard forwarding
> > > mode and everything seems normal, the problem is
> > > that you have missed all
> > > the important DHCP broadcast and acknowledgment from
> > > client to DHCP server
> > > during this period.
> > >
> > > You can change this default state by changing the
> > > PORT-FAST setting on
> > > each port. The port is then immediately in the
> > > FORWARDING mode as it is
> > > initialised. By default this setting is DISABLED,
> > > I have ENABLED all
> > > ports except the ports doing the linking to other
> > > switches"
> > >
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Re: ACL [7:2882]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

Define some networks and type up the ACLs and we'll show you how to combine
them (or you'll probably see it as you flesh them out).

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> How about having a VPN and "other" server access from the internet users?
> You'd need an acl for VPN and one for non-encrypted traffic that doesn't
> need the same permissions that VPN did.  VPN users would be internal and
> have access to ftp, telnet, etc on the same boxes external users should
only
> have port 80, etc.
>
> I haven't thought this whole thing through yet so bear with me.  No coffee
> this morning ;)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chuck Larrieu"
> To: "Allen May" ;
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 4:03 PM
> Subject: RE: ACL [7:2882]
>
>
> >
> >  Construct three access-lists, each doing what you specify. Then
consider
> > what would be gained or lost if you combined them into a single
> access-list.
> >
> > In the end, the router would have to process each line anyway.
> >
> > It may be that there are architectural reasons for the limitation of the
> > number of lists per protocol. I have heard it said that in major shops,
> > access-lists might contain hundreds of lines. Imagine troubleshooting
one
> of
> > those suckers!
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > Allen May
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:56 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: ACL [7:2882]
> >
> > 1 reason would be to separate acl's per internal IP address you're
> > permitting/denying access to.  101=specific IP allowing ftp and http,
> > 102=different IP allowing http only, etc.  It would look cleaner
> anyway
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: ACL [7:2882]
> >
> >
> > > Why
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "BASSOLE Rock"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:24 AM
> > > Subject: ACL [7:2882]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Can we apply more then one ACL per interface?..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Example:
> > > >
> > > > Interface Serial1
> > > > ip access-group 102 in
> > > > ip access-group 103 out
> > > > ip access-group 104 in
> > > > ip access-group 105 out
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Rock BASSOLE
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Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

True about that being a long time, but I think that's just a matter of how
fast did I plug it in, and how long did it take for my NIC to see it (and
which is a good 1 second delay from when I plug it in and when the NIC LED
goes green).

The one thing I forgot to test was without spanning tree enabled.  I tested
the switch with 'no spanning-tree' for 10 times, and 10 times with it
optimally configured with spanning tree on (portfast, full duplex, 100mbit,
power inline never).  The hardest thing to test is that Win2k will generate
"Destination host unreachable." when no TCP/IP interfaces are up.  It seemed
that if instead of letting a constant ping run and watch pagefulls of those
messages go by, I would instead hit enter as soon as I saw the NIC LED go
green.  This definately produces faster results (since the stack isn't being
accessed, perhaps it initilizes faster?).

Anyway, at first I forgot I had DHCP running and was wondering why it was
taking so long (5-7 seconds).  It acted the same with spanning tree
disabled, and optimized as stated above.  When I configured a static
address, it dropped to 3-4 seconds for both, just as before.

Of course, this isn't scientific, and Win2k doesn't really let you test the
way you could with Win9x or even NT4 (where you could leave it pinging, and
it would just sit there and respond with normal timeouts).  Oh, growl, I
just remembered I have Win98SE on this laptop.  I'll save this post and go
try it out.

Ok, so I just rebooted to Win98.  I must say, it handles lose of
connectivity much better than Win2k, IMHO.  I guess it all depends on what
you want it to do:  If it's a server/router, then you want the IP stack to
know right away when there is a lost connection and drop it; if it's a
desktop, you don't want to concern the user too fast (so long as the NIC
gets plugged back in rather fast, or they're not generating IP traffic, no
big deal).

What I dislike on Win2k is that the second you lose your connection, you
lose your DHCP lease (it remembers it and will try to renegotiate for it,
but that IP/NIC is gone from the stack).  With Win98, you still have it, so
no need to re-negotiate for it when your connection comes back.  That
explains why DHCP was taking 2 extra seconds with Win2k (my DHCP server
pings twice to make sure it's not in use before giving it back out).  Win98
never checks the DHCP lease due to cable loss, so long as the lease is still
valid.

Anyway, the results seemed to show no discernable different between
optimized spanning tree, and diabled spanning tree.  I also tested with
using 'shutdown' and 'no shutdown' instead of physically removing the cable.
Much easier, but the results were the same (my NIC couldn't tell the
difference).  3-4 seconds after bringing the the switch interface up,
pinging would start.  The biggest thing I ran into with Win98 is that I
couldn't shut/no shut or unplug/plug too fast, or it would never bring the
stack back up no matter how long I left it (even though the NIC LED was on).
I needed to let it have a good 1-2 seconds of disconnect for it to work.

Perhaps Apple can tell the difference, but 3-4 seconds seemed constant with
or without spanning tree.  Perhaps some of the other Cisco switches or OS
bases do things differently, but I don't have access to anything else at the
moment.  Anyone else want to post some results with other gear?  I was using
'debug spanning events' and 'debug interface f0/6' to see the original
content I was posting.

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> Thanks for the testing! I have bad news for you. ;-) Three or 4 seconds is
> a lot of time.
>
> An AppleTalk device sends its AARP frame to see if its address is unique
10
> times, with only 1/5 of a second between tries. Then it sends a
> ZIPGetNetInfo. It tries that 3 times, I think with the same timeout. This
> could happen before the switch is forwarding, even with portfast enabled
it
> seems. (These timeout values may be dated. I haven't looked at AppleTalk
in
> a while! But I bet it's still really fast, perhaps even faster on a G4?
;-)
>
> My guess is that IPX and DHCP are really fast too. ARGH.
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 03:15 PM 5/2/01, Jason Roysdon wrote:
> >I wonder what switch and software version you were running at the time?
I'm
> >trying this on a Catalyst 3524 XL Inline Power running 12.0(5.2)XU (I
> >haven't upgraded it, so that's whatever it shipped with).
> >
> >I did a number of tests (but not enough samples to make it 100% accurate
on
> >the timing, but a general idea +/- 2 seconds).  The digits "00:16:47,"
are
> >time since boot, while the dated timestamps are accurate GMT.  For each
of
> >my tests, I would attempt to physically plug in the patch cable at :00
> >seconds based on the clock on my laptop, and both the laptop and switch
are
> >accurate

Re: VLAN's and Routers [7:2891]

2001-05-02 Thread Sam

I would suggest the 2621 - don't forget you'll need the IP plus software
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> Thanks all, for the advice.
> Looks like I should go with a router, am looking at 2600 and 3600
> series.
> I will have no more than 6 VLAN's, more likely 4.
> Any suggestions on which model to purchase?
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Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

Odd.  Especially even Apple says this doesn't affect TCP/IP services, just
AppleTalk.

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> I have been silently listening to this thread with interest.  But after he
> noted his IOS version I just had to pipe in.  I have the exact same
version
> 12.0(5.2)XU running on a 2924XL.  My Macs are also having issues.
However,
> my issue is slightly different since I have portfast enabled on some ports
> and I have a hub on another.  The macs all have the same problem of
getting
> poor response times (very, very, very slow) from SSL sites.  However if I
> move it from the Cisco switch and plug it into a Fore Systems Ethernet
> switch (PS I do not advocate Fore/Marconi switches) they zoom.  On the
flip
> side of this I have a few PCs plugged into a separate VLAN on this switch
> and they Zoom.
>
> Tim LeBrun
> CCNA, CCDA
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Roysdon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
>
>
> I wonder what switch and software version you were running at the time?
I'm
> trying this on a Catalyst 3524 XL Inline Power running 12.0(5.2)XU (I
> haven't upgraded it, so that's whatever it shipped with).
>
> I did a number of tests (but not enough samples to make it 100% accurate
on
> the timing, but a general idea +/- 2 seconds).  The digits "00:16:47," are
> time since boot, while the dated timestamps are accurate GMT.  For each of
> my tests, I would attempt to physically plug in the patch cable at :00
> seconds based on the clock on my laptop, and both the laptop and switch
are
> accurate from ntp (the log is not timestamped at :00 seconds, but just for
> your reference).
>
> The first with the port in the "out of the box" state with it left at
> defaults:
> 00:16:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> listening
> May  2 11:33:02.985 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6,
changed
> state to up
> May  2 11:33:03.986 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
> FastEthernet0/6,
> changed state to up
> 00:17:09: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> learning
> 00:17:24: ST: sent Topology Change Notice on Port Group 1  vlan 1
> 00:17:24: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> forwarding
> ! 32 seconds
>
> At 32 seconds I had ping replies at my desktop (using a static address, as
> DHCP wouldn't be accurate to see how fast it comes up).
>
> Next, I wanted to see if the inline power slowed bringing the power up.
It
> doesn't appear to (of course, thinking about it, the only time it applies
> power is if it sees a certain loop/load between a pair of wires, the
details
> I don't recall):
>
> Cat3524(config-if)#power inline never
> 00:18:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> listening
> May  2 11:35:02.497 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6,
changed
> state to up
> May  2 11:35:03.498 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
> FastEthernet0/6,
> changed state to up
> 00:19:09: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> learning
> 00:19:24: ST: sent Topology Change Notice on Port Group 1  vlan 1
> 00:19:24: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> forwarding
> !32 seconds
>
> Again, 32 seconds with spanning tree left to the defaults.  30 seconds as
> far as the switch was concerned.
>
> Now lets enable portfast:
>
> Cat3524(config-if)#span portfast
> 00:20:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 ->jump to forwarding from blocking
> May  2 11:37:02.483 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6,
changed
> state to up
> May  2 11:37:03.485 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
> FastEthernet0/6,
> changed state to up
> ! 3 seconds
>
> In 3 seconds my PC was pinging with portfast set.
>
> My final test, I wanted to see if locking to speed and duplex would
increase
> the time at all:
>
> interface FastEthernet0/6
>  duplex full
>  speed 100
>  power inline never
>  spanning-tree portfast
>
> Cat3524#
> 00:22:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 ->jump to forwarding from blocking
> May  2 11:39:03.165 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6,
changed
> state to up
> May  2 11:39:04.166 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
> FastEthernet0/6,
> changed state to up
> May  2 11:39:06.622 PDT: %RTD-1-LINK_FLAP: FastEthernet0/6 link down/up 5
> times per minsh
> int
>
> Oops, the switch doesn't like all the flapping of my tests and left it in
an
> down/up state (good thing to know though!).
>
> Ok, give it a moment without the cable connected and try again:
>
> Cat3524#
> 00:26:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 ->jump to forwarding from blocking
> May  2 11:43:03.200 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6,
changed
> state to up
> May  2 11:43:04.201 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
> FastEthernet0/6,
> changed state to up
> !4 seconds
>
> I think thi

Decnet to SNA [7:2961]

2001-05-02 Thread Puckett, Larry (TIFPC)

Hi all, I have a challenge that I could use some good advice to design.

 I have a present topology of a DEC box that has a SNA gateway installed to
translate Decnet to SNA and the send through a modem eliminator (to provide
clock at 9.6k :~}) to an IBM3745 FEP. Those FEP services are being moved to
our central location in another city but the DEC services are staying put.
There is a Cisco routed network already in place between these two sites
with a 2502 on one end and a 3640 on the other. The 3640 is at the central
data center and has an OSA attachment to the mainframe. As I understand it,
OSA is layer 3 and depends on IP addresses but Decnet's addressing is layer
2 using the MAC address. The DEC box is Ethernet connected but the 2502 at
that site is a Token Ring router. There is existing bridging between Token
Ring and Ethernet segments at that site but I'm not sure if the DEC segment
is already bridged. 

What I think I would like to do is to remove that SNA gateway from that DEC
box and depend on the LAN/WAN to get Decnet to the central site. I'm pretty
sure that the two routers will do this but once we get the information to
the central site, I'm not sure how to get it out of the router and into the
mainframe. We have thought of putting an SNA gateway at the central site and
basically recreating what they had up there but I'm hoping that we can use
the OSA instead. 

I do understand that the configuration of the routers is more than just
enabling Decnet, but I don't see any insurmountable hurdles there. Please
correct me if I'm wrong. 

Any advise will be greatly appreciated!! 

 A point to point leased line is undesirable because of the costs. Telco's
pricing has a full T1 cheaper than a 9.6 circuit but we don't need that
bandwidth and equipment to throttle down seems a waste.

Thank you,
Larry Puckette
Network Analyst CCNA,MCP,LANCP
Temple Inland
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Re: ACL [7:2882]

2001-05-02 Thread Allen May

How about having a VPN and "other" server access from the internet users?
You'd need an acl for VPN and one for non-encrypted traffic that doesn't
need the same permissions that VPN did.  VPN users would be internal and
have access to ftp, telnet, etc on the same boxes external users should only
have port 80, etc.

I haven't thought this whole thing through yet so bear with me.  No coffee
this morning ;)

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" 
To: "Allen May" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: ACL [7:2882]


>
>  Construct three access-lists, each doing what you specify. Then consider
> what would be gained or lost if you combined them into a single
access-list.
>
> In the end, the router would have to process each line anyway.
>
> It may be that there are architectural reasons for the limitation of the
> number of lists per protocol. I have heard it said that in major shops,
> access-lists might contain hundreds of lines. Imagine troubleshooting one
of
> those suckers!
>
> Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Allen May
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ACL [7:2882]
>
> 1 reason would be to separate acl's per internal IP address you're
> permitting/denying access to.  101=specific IP allowing ftp and http,
> 102=different IP allowing http only, etc.  It would look cleaner
anyway
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Donald B Johnson jr"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: ACL [7:2882]
>
>
> > Why
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "BASSOLE Rock"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:24 AM
> > Subject: ACL [7:2882]
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Can we apply more then one ACL per interface?..
> > >
> > >
> > > Example:
> > >
> > > Interface Serial1
> > > ip access-group 102 in
> > > ip access-group 103 out
> > > ip access-group 104 in
> > > ip access-group 105 out
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Rock BASSOLE
> > > Til: +33 (0) 1 45 96 22 03
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RE: ACL [7:2882]

2001-05-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Construct three access-lists, each doing what you specify. Then consider
what would be gained or lost if you combined them into a single access-list.

In the end, the router would have to process each line anyway.

It may be that there are architectural reasons for the limitation of the
number of lists per protocol. I have heard it said that in major shops,
access-lists might contain hundreds of lines. Imagine troubleshooting one of
those suckers!

Chuck

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Allen May
Sent:   Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: ACL [7:2882]

1 reason would be to separate acl's per internal IP address you're
permitting/denying access to.  101=specific IP allowing ftp and http,
102=different IP allowing http only, etc.  It would look cleaner anyway

- Original Message -
From: "Donald B Johnson jr"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: ACL [7:2882]


> Why
> - Original Message -
> From: "BASSOLE Rock"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:24 AM
> Subject: ACL [7:2882]
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can we apply more then one ACL per interface?..
> >
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > Interface Serial1
> > ip access-group 102 in
> > ip access-group 103 out
> > ip access-group 104 in
> > ip access-group 105 out
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Rock BASSOLE
> > Til: +33 (0) 1 45 96 22 03
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RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread LeBrun, Tim

I have been silently listening to this thread with interest.  But after he
noted his IOS version I just had to pipe in.  I have the exact same version
12.0(5.2)XU running on a 2924XL.  My Macs are also having issues.  However,
my issue is slightly different since I have portfast enabled on some ports
and I have a hub on another.  The macs all have the same problem of getting
poor response times (very, very, very slow) from SSL sites.  However if I
move it from the Cisco switch and plug it into a Fore Systems Ethernet
switch (PS I do not advocate Fore/Marconi switches) they zoom.  On the flip
side of this I have a few PCs plugged into a separate VLAN on this switch
and they Zoom. 

Tim LeBrun
CCNA, CCDA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Jason Roysdon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]


I wonder what switch and software version you were running at the time?  I'm
trying this on a Catalyst 3524 XL Inline Power running 12.0(5.2)XU (I
haven't upgraded it, so that's whatever it shipped with).

I did a number of tests (but not enough samples to make it 100% accurate on
the timing, but a general idea +/- 2 seconds).  The digits "00:16:47," are
time since boot, while the dated timestamps are accurate GMT.  For each of
my tests, I would attempt to physically plug in the patch cable at :00
seconds based on the clock on my laptop, and both the laptop and switch are
accurate from ntp (the log is not timestamped at :00 seconds, but just for
your reference).

The first with the port in the "out of the box" state with it left at
defaults:
00:16:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> listening
May  2 11:33:02.985 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
state to up
May  2 11:33:03.986 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/6,
changed state to up
00:17:09: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> learning
00:17:24: ST: sent Topology Change Notice on Port Group 1  vlan 1
00:17:24: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> forwarding
! 32 seconds

At 32 seconds I had ping replies at my desktop (using a static address, as
DHCP wouldn't be accurate to see how fast it comes up).

Next, I wanted to see if the inline power slowed bringing the power up.  It
doesn't appear to (of course, thinking about it, the only time it applies
power is if it sees a certain loop/load between a pair of wires, the details
I don't recall):

Cat3524(config-if)#power inline never
00:18:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> listening
May  2 11:35:02.497 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
state to up
May  2 11:35:03.498 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/6,
changed state to up
00:19:09: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> learning
00:19:24: ST: sent Topology Change Notice on Port Group 1  vlan 1
00:19:24: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> forwarding
!32 seconds

Again, 32 seconds with spanning tree left to the defaults.  30 seconds as
far as the switch was concerned.

Now lets enable portfast:

Cat3524(config-if)#span portfast
00:20:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 ->jump to forwarding from blocking
May  2 11:37:02.483 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
state to up
May  2 11:37:03.485 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/6,
changed state to up
! 3 seconds

In 3 seconds my PC was pinging with portfast set.

My final test, I wanted to see if locking to speed and duplex would increase
the time at all:

interface FastEthernet0/6
 duplex full
 speed 100
 power inline never
 spanning-tree portfast

Cat3524#
00:22:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 ->jump to forwarding from blocking
May  2 11:39:03.165 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
state to up
May  2 11:39:04.166 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/6,
changed state to up
May  2 11:39:06.622 PDT: %RTD-1-LINK_FLAP: FastEthernet0/6 link down/up 5
times per minsh
int

Oops, the switch doesn't like all the flapping of my tests and left it in an
down/up state (good thing to know though!).

Ok, give it a moment without the cable connected and try again:

Cat3524#
00:26:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 ->jump to forwarding from blocking
May  2 11:43:03.200 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
state to up
May  2 11:43:04.201 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/6,
changed state to up
!4 seconds

I think this time I was a little slow getting the cable in, but basically
the same results, 3-4 seconds and the port is up and pinging from my
connected laptop.  That shouldn't be a problem for any network devices, I
wouldn't think.  The only way I could see it affecting is if during boot the
NIC is not activated until the drivers load, and then within 1-2 seconds the
protocol stack gets access to the NIC before the switch takes the port
up/up, but I don't think this would be any different with or without
spanning

Re: Emutel solo ISDN simulator opinions needed [7:2918]

2001-05-02 Thread Ed Dombrowski

Actually i looked into this option. Total cost of install charges for just
the 2 BRI's without any adaptar hardware to go from my ST to U interfaces
was $800. This is without any monthly charges for usage. Add an extra few
hundred for hardware to connect to the telco circuits and i am over $1000
without usage. When i am done i have nothing but a big bill. If i buy an
Emutel or a Teltone unit i can use it for as long as i need it with no
concern for usage charges then sell it on Ebay for a very good percentage of
the original cost. If you ever see these units on Ebay they sell for 80-90%
of original retail. In the long run it will be much cheaper to buy the
Simulator then the real service.

Ed Dombrowski

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> until your done with it. That seems far cheaper than buying a simulator.
>
> Just my .02
>
> Erich
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>
>
> > Does anybody have any opinions on the Emutel solo ISDN simulator from
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> > technologies. I hear great things about the Teltone but at $2800 for the
> > model that handles both ST and U interfaces i started looking for an
> > alternative. It appears the Emutel Solo can be had for a retail of
around
> > $2000 and supports both types of interfaces. If you have experience with
> > this product can you leave a brief review and some pros and cons?
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RE: Cannot browse Some Website: Try this: www.sitemeter.com [7:2956]

2001-05-02 Thread Yeo, Ken

Try with static NAT.Still didn't work. Which version of PIX IOS your
running?

We are running 5.1

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[7:22 95]


We've had that issue going to certain sites. I do know that if you have a
static NAT in your PIX for the inside host that you will connect. Those
using dynamic translations won't. 

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> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: PIX: Cannot browse Some Website: Try this: www.sitemeter.com
> [7:2295]
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We are having problem to browse this website:
> 
> www.sitemeter.com
> 
> Internet explorer will say "Opening page 
> http://www.sitemeter.com"; in the
> status bar on the bottom and 
> the page never came up. It came back with
> error:
> 
> The page cannot be displayed
> We are able to browse the site using dialup to Netzero and 
> some other dial
> up ISP.
> I wonder those of you who use PIX try this site?
> Our first thought was reserve DNS was not setup so we setup 
> reserve DNS for
> the NATed IP on the PIX, but still cannot browse the site. Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Ken Yeo
> Network Engineer,
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Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]

2001-05-02 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Snag, I'm a Cabletron certified CCIE
Foiled again

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From: "Chuck Larrieu" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:52 AM
Subject: RE: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]


> Non Cisco certified CCIE's need not apply :->
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Claudette Graham
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]
>
> The following is a job description I recently received from my client
which
> needs to be filled immediately.
>
> We are looking for a Cisco Certified CCIE, living and working in West
> Virginia.
>
> Please send resume and rates as soon as possible.
>
> CCIE
>
> DURATION: 1 YEAR (CONTRACT)
>
> START DATE: 7/1/01 - 6/30/02
>
> LOCATION: WEST VIRGINIA
>
>
> NEED TO FILL NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, MAY 4TH 2001
>
> DESCRIPTION OF WORK ASSIGNMENT:
>
> The vendor and/or his protigies should be authorized to ser vice 3Com,
> Nortel Networks, and Enterasys/Cabletron equipment currently installed in
> State agencies.
> The vendor should provide proof from the manufacturer confirming this
> authorization to service the equipment and a list of the products covered.
>
> PROJECT / ENVIRONMENT DESCRIPTION:
>
> What type of work is being done?
> * Custom Application Development
> * Application Management Outsourcing
> * Package Integration
> * Application Enabling Design
> * Solutions Consulting & Integration
> * Other network hardware installation
>
>
> LOCALS PLEASE
>
> PLEASE FORWARD A COPY OF YOUR RESUME AND CALL ME IMMEDIATELY...Thanks
> (:) )
>
> Claudette
>
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu

The other way to solve the problem would be to delete AppleTalk and use
native IP on your Mac's ;->

( can't wait for PO's response to this one! )

chuck


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Subject:Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

It took me 10 times to get the thing to allow me to create a new account
(each time, it would time out when I hit Continue, and when I'd go back all
the form would be blank).  Anyway, from the Knowledgebase at
http://www.apple.com/support/ it appears that portfast or tuning the
spanning tree learning->forwarding time down would solve the problem instead
of just disabling spanning tree.  Also, it appears to not affect TCP/IP
services at all, only AppleTalk (which does it's little song-and-dance at
boot to get a unique address):

http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n30922

TITLE
Spanning Tree Protocol: AppleTalk Issues
Article ID: 30922
Created: 3/10/99
Modified:3/22/01

TOPIC
When the Spanning Tree Protocol is enabled on an Ethernet bridge or switch
port to which a Macintosh computer is directly connected the computer may be
unable to use AppleTalk services.

Enable Fast Convergence

Several switch manufacturers have extended the Spanning Tree Protocol to
allow the convergence time to be reduced. One of the enhancements usually
available is the ability to safely and quickly move the port from the
blocked state (listening and learning) to the forwarding state. For example,
if the bridge detects a single device attached to a port it can quickly
assume that no other bridges are attached to that port and move the port to
the forwarding state almost immediately. Check the manufacturer's
documentation for specific information on how to configure this option for
your switch. For example, Cisco has an option called 'portfast' that can be
enabled on most of their switches. For additional information on this
feature, see: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/12.html

Tune the Forward Delay Timer

The Forward Delay timer can be tuned down to the minimum value. This value
can usually be tuned down to a few seconds, which would give the switch
enough time to move to the forwarding state before the address allocation
packets were sent by the computer. If you choose to use this solution you
must set these timers in the root bridge. The root bridge is the bridge that
transmits these timer settings to all other designated bridges. Although you
can set these timers on any bridge only the root bridge can effect the
overall environment.


Products affected

AppleTalk services
Macintosh computers ranging from the PowerBook 3400 to the latest Power Mac
G4 computers.
Note: TCP/IP based services are not affected.


Question: Why does this only affect later Macintosh computers?

Answer: Later computers start up faster causing the packets used for
AppleTalk address assignment to be sent while the port is still in the
blocked state.

Question: Is Apple planning to change the way AppleTalk addresses are
allocated to fix the problem?

Answer: Apple has no plans to change the algorithms used for AppleTalk
address assignment.


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> There is an Apple knowledgebase article about this issue.
>
> It is Doc#30922.
>
> Ejay Hire
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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>
>
> Believe it or not it's true!  We did some test/research on it and we had
to
> modify some of our login processes to allow the switch to go the  STP
> process for login, it appeared we were requesting to quickly for the
switch.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
>
>
> If it really takes 15-30 seconds for a switch to forward even when
portfast
> is enabled, I can see why AppleTalk nodes would hate this. An AppleTalk
> node sends messages right away to make sure its own address is unique, and
> to find the nearest router, and verify the network number(s) and zone
> name(s) for its local network. If the switch isn't forwarding these
frames,
> the Mac will think it's on a non-routed single network, when it probably
> isn't. Worst of all, it might end up with the same address as some other
> AppleTalk device.
>
> However.. I find it hard to believe that even with portfast enabled a
> switch takes 15-30 seconds to forward traffic. Is that really true?
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 01:22 AM 5/2/01, Jim Gillen wrote:
> >I have had plenty of experience with this problem when I updated a token
> ring
> >network to a fully switch

Re: ACL [7:2882]

2001-05-02 Thread Allen May

1 reason would be to separate acl's per internal IP address you're
permitting/denying access to.  101=specific IP allowing ftp and http,
102=different IP allowing http only, etc.  It would look cleaner anyway

- Original Message -
From: "Donald B Johnson jr" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: ACL [7:2882]


> Why
> - Original Message -
> From: "BASSOLE Rock"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:24 AM
> Subject: ACL [7:2882]
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can we apply more then one ACL per interface?..
> >
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > Interface Serial1
> > ip access-group 102 in
> > ip access-group 103 out
> > ip access-group 104 in
> > ip access-group 105 out
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Rock BASSOLE
> > Til: +33 (0) 1 45 96 22 03
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RE: Cisco VPN Client..... [7:2865]

2001-05-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Serves to remind that there are a series of questions one must ask, and
things one must understand, when implementing VPN's. In particular, the
applications being used, and their requirements. For example, suppose the
application is web based, and requires SSL. What needs be done on the
firewall? If that same application is only for the VPN client, and not for
public consumption, then what should or should not be considered? What is or
is not necessary? Why?

Chuck

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Subject:Re: Cisco VPN Client. [7:2865]

And folks get protocols and tcp/udp ports confused.  It's not simply running
on another port, but a different protocol (ESP).

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> You should permit ip protocols 50 and 51 ( IPSec AH and ESP ) on the
> firewall.
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/PSP/psp_view.pl?p=Hardware:PIX&s=Softwa
> re_Configuration#Software_Samples_%26_Tips
> watch the word wrap
>
> you need a CCO login to get here, but there are a lot of configuration and
> troubleshooting examples
>
> HTH
>
> Chuck
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:49 AM
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>
> Is there anyway to force the Cisco VPN client to use port 80 for
> communications?  This would be used to get through firewall's allowing
only
> port 80.
>
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Generic Summarization Planning Question [7:2952]

2001-05-02 Thread Murphy, Brennan

I am curious about best practices concerning subnetting a class B address
for a large enterprise network.

If a company had 4 data centers spread throughout the globe, for example:
SanFran
Austin
London
Sydney

One might chop the class B into 4 parts and if need be, reserve some space
for growth.  But what if each site also maintained an "Internet Presence"
and
had 5 or 6 external subnets being advertised via BGP.  Would
it make sense to re-do the subnetting so that all internal addressing
was contiguous and all external addressing was contiguous?  This way,
all internal addressing could be summarized with relatively few statements,
and external nets as well. Does this sound reasonable?  I've been
browsing the CID book and other documents but havent come across
anything that seems to address these concerns.  Or would it just be better
to make sure that all nets both internal/external are contiguous for a
particular data center? Just wondering if anyone has been through this 
situation. Not sure if it would matter if OSPF or EIGRP is the IGP involved.

I cc'ed Howard Berkowitz on this question -- Im told his first book is
a great reference for this area. Maybe his response would spur me to
purchase it. :-)




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Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

It took me 10 times to get the thing to allow me to create a new account
(each time, it would time out when I hit Continue, and when I'd go back all
the form would be blank).  Anyway, from the Knowledgebase at
http://www.apple.com/support/ it appears that portfast or tuning the
spanning tree learning->forwarding time down would solve the problem instead
of just disabling spanning tree.  Also, it appears to not affect TCP/IP
services at all, only AppleTalk (which does it's little song-and-dance at
boot to get a unique address):

http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n30922

TITLE
Spanning Tree Protocol: AppleTalk Issues
Article ID: 30922
Created: 3/10/99
Modified:3/22/01

TOPIC
When the Spanning Tree Protocol is enabled on an Ethernet bridge or switch
port to which a Macintosh computer is directly connected the computer may be
unable to use AppleTalk services.

Enable Fast Convergence

Several switch manufacturers have extended the Spanning Tree Protocol to
allow the convergence time to be reduced. One of the enhancements usually
available is the ability to safely and quickly move the port from the
blocked state (listening and learning) to the forwarding state. For example,
if the bridge detects a single device attached to a port it can quickly
assume that no other bridges are attached to that port and move the port to
the forwarding state almost immediately. Check the manufacturer's
documentation for specific information on how to configure this option for
your switch. For example, Cisco has an option called 'portfast' that can be
enabled on most of their switches. For additional information on this
feature, see: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/12.html

Tune the Forward Delay Timer

The Forward Delay timer can be tuned down to the minimum value. This value
can usually be tuned down to a few seconds, which would give the switch
enough time to move to the forwarding state before the address allocation
packets were sent by the computer. If you choose to use this solution you
must set these timers in the root bridge. The root bridge is the bridge that
transmits these timer settings to all other designated bridges. Although you
can set these timers on any bridge only the root bridge can effect the
overall environment.


Products affected

AppleTalk services
Macintosh computers ranging from the PowerBook 3400 to the latest Power Mac
G4 computers.
Note: TCP/IP based services are not affected.


Question: Why does this only affect later Macintosh computers?

Answer: Later computers start up faster causing the packets used for
AppleTalk address assignment to be sent while the port is still in the
blocked state.

Question: Is Apple planning to change the way AppleTalk addresses are
allocated to fix the problem?

Answer: Apple has no plans to change the algorithms used for AppleTalk
address assignment.


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>
> It is Doc#30922.
>
> Ejay Hire
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
>
>
> Believe it or not it's true!  We did some test/research on it and we had
to
> modify some of our login processes to allow the switch to go the  STP
> process for login, it appeared we were requesting to quickly for the
switch.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
>
>
> If it really takes 15-30 seconds for a switch to forward even when
portfast
> is enabled, I can see why AppleTalk nodes would hate this. An AppleTalk
> node sends messages right away to make sure its own address is unique, and
> to find the nearest router, and verify the network number(s) and zone
> name(s) for its local network. If the switch isn't forwarding these
frames,
> the Mac will think it's on a non-routed single network, when it probably
> isn't. Worst of all, it might end up with the same address as some other
> AppleTalk device.
>
> However.. I find it hard to believe that even with portfast enabled a
> switch takes 15-30 seconds to forward traffic. Is that really true?
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 01:22 AM 5/2/01, Jim Gillen wrote:
> >I have had plenty of experience with this problem when I updated a token
> ring
> >network to a fully switched ethernet network.
> >
> >CISCO has a document on spanning tree and these types of problems.
> >
> >Enabling portfast still means that it takes 15-30sec for the port on a
> switch
> >to come up. If you workstation needs to attach to a server (as with the
> >Novell
> >Client) by sending GetNearestServer (or the like packets) and it needs a
> >reply
> >

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Marty Adkins

Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
> 
> It's a symptom of the problem I wrote about earlier in this thread.  When a
> MAC becomes active on the network, the computer isn't able to communicate
for
> the first 50 seconds the port detects the end-system is active.  The port
> begins in blocking mode, then transitions to listening, then learning.
> Finally, once STP determines that a looped topology hasn't occurred, the
port
> is set to forwarding mode.  This creates havoc with any end-system that
> expects to receive over-the-network information within the first 50
seconds.
> IP, IPX, AppleTalk - all face the same issue.
> 
Well, this is picking nits, but the STP forwarding delay is only 30 seconds.
The 50 second delay only occurs if the path to root is lost such that the
root BPDU is not heard for maxage (20) seconds.  A leaf user port only takes
a 30-second hit.

> The simple solution isn't to kill Spanning Tree on all switches - that's
the
> "I don't understand the problem so I'll do whatever works and create a
bigger
> problem" solution.  The real solution is to enable portfast on all switch
> ports that have end-systems directly connected.  The caveat to this is to
> ensure none of the end-systems are capable as acting as a bridge,
forwarding
> packets between LAN segments.  Enabling portfast essentially disables
> Spanning
> Tree on a port - and Spanning Tree is used to ensure a loop-free
environment.
> 
Portfast doesn't disable STP at all.  All it does is cause forwarding to
occur without the conservative delay for listening and learning.  The port
still listens for BPDUs, will detect a topology loop, and will go into
blocking to break that loop.  But I definitely agree with Leigh Anne that
it's a BAD idea to disable STP!

But before STP ever gets a chance to do anything with a port, three other
phases must complete:
1) speed/duplex auto-negotiation -- max of 3 seconds per the standard.
2) negotiation of trunking via DTP
3) negotiation of Etherchannel via PAgP

The last two are typically very fast if the device on the other side
is capable of negotiating.  If not, then the retries for each can add
up to as much as 15-20 seconds, depending on platform and code release.
In CatOS, the macro "set port host" disables both of these and enables
STP fast-forward/portfast.  You can observe the progress by making the
logging a bit more verbose: "set logging level spantree 6".
And while we're at it, enable bpdu-guard so if someone does back-door
and create a loop, the portfast-enabled port will be disabled.
I'd love to see if that makes the Macs happy.

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Passed BCRAN today ... [7:2948]

2001-05-02 Thread Chris Haller

Just sqeaked by, but I passed !!!  1 more to go for
CCNP then the hard stuff begins !! :-)

I found the test to be a bit misleading.  Many of the
questions did not ask "enough" of a question to
actually give a difinitive answer, and 1 question on
x25 mappings  the answer WAS NOT EVEN LISTED 

I commented on that one and moved on.

Luck to all.

CCIE or BUST BABIES 

=
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Re: ACL [7:2882]

2001-05-02 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Why
- Original Message -
From: "BASSOLE Rock" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:24 AM
Subject: ACL [7:2882]


> Hi,
>
> Can we apply more then one ACL per interface?..
>
>
> Example:
>
> Interface Serial1
> ip access-group 102 in
> ip access-group 103 out
> ip access-group 104 in
> ip access-group 105 out
>
> Thank you.
>
> Rock BASSOLE
> Til: +33 (0) 1 45 96 22 03
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Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

What switch and OS?  I'm wondering if Cisco hasn't changed some thing since
you ran into this.  I think on a 6500 install we had it at about 10 seconds
after power-on that a PC would be up (tcp/ip stack loaded) and successfully
requesting a DHCP'd address (and not have any problems once portfast was
set).

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> Believe it or not it's true!  We did some test/research on it and we had
to
> modify some of our login processes to allow the switch to go the  STP
> process for login, it appeared we were requesting to quickly for the
switch.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
>
>
> If it really takes 15-30 seconds for a switch to forward even when
portfast
> is enabled, I can see why AppleTalk nodes would hate this. An AppleTalk
> node sends messages right away to make sure its own address is unique, and
> to find the nearest router, and verify the network number(s) and zone
> name(s) for its local network. If the switch isn't forwarding these
frames,
> the Mac will think it's on a non-routed single network, when it probably
> isn't. Worst of all, it might end up with the same address as some other
> AppleTalk device.
>
> However.. I find it hard to believe that even with portfast enabled a
> switch takes 15-30 seconds to forward traffic. Is that really true?
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 01:22 AM 5/2/01, Jim Gillen wrote:
> >I have had plenty of experience with this problem when I updated a token
> ring
> >network to a fully switched ethernet network.
> >
> >CISCO has a document on spanning tree and these types of problems.
> >
> >Enabling portfast still means that it takes 15-30sec for the port on a
> switch
> >to come up. If you workstation needs to attach to a server (as with the
> >Novell
> >Client) by sending GetNearestServer (or the like packets) and it needs a
> >reply
> >to attach during that 15 - 30 sec then it will fail to connect. There may
> be
> >other problems with the Mac's -???
> >
> >I would read the document on the CISCO site and then if that doesn't help
> let
> >us know what is the nature of the problem.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >>> "Jason Roysdon"  2/05/01 13:30:21 >>>
> >This message has been scanned by MAILSweeper.
> >
> >
> >The customer claims that even with portfast enabled the Macs won't
function
> >due to Spanning tree.  Has anyone else heard any such rumors about this?
> My
> >guess, as you suggested, is that portfast would solve it, but supposedly
it
> >was tried before disabling spanning tree.
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >""Leigh Anne Chisholm""  wrote in message
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> > > It's a symptom of the problem I wrote about earlier in this thread.
> When
> >a
> > > MAC becomes active on the network, the computer isn't able to
> communicate
> >for
> > > the first 50 seconds the port detects the end-system is active.  The
> port
> > > begins in blocking mode, then transitions to listening, then learning.
> > > Finally, once STP determines that a looped topology hasn't occurred,
the
> >port
> > > is set to forwarding mode.  This creates havoc with any end-system
that
> > > expects to receive over-the-network information within the first 50
> >seconds.
> > > IP, IPX, AppleTalk - all face the same issue.
> > >
> > > The simple solution isn't to kill Spanning Tree on all switches -
that's
> >the
> > > "I don't understand the problem so I'll do whatever works and create a
> >bigger
> > > problem" solution.  The real solution is to enable portfast on all
> switch
> > > ports that have end-systems directly connected.  The caveat to this is
> to
> > > ensure none of the end-systems are capable as acting as a bridge,
> >forwarding
> > > packets between LAN segments.  Enabling portfast essentially disables
> > > Spanning
> > > Tree on a port - and Spanning Tree is used to ensure a loop-free
> >environment.
> > >
> > >
> > >   -- Leigh Anne
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: April 30, 2001 7:15 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh, speaking of AppleTalk.  We've got a customer (not mine, but one
of
> >the
> > > > engineers working the account bounced this off me):  They claim
their
> >new
> > > > Macs can't access the network if Spanning Tree is enabled.
Supposedly
> >this
> > > > has been verified by Apple and TAC (but we've never had a customer
lie
> >to
> > > > us, so that must 

Re: BCRAN exam [7:2890]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

It's not worth your time.  If you know the other areas, 1-3 questions on it
won't hurt you (if that, I've heard rumors of 0 questions).

When is Cisco going to EOL those piece of junks?  Sure, sure, they're great
cheap desktop routers (ip & ipx), but the 800 line isn't that much more.

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is
> covered on the BCRAN examI'm guessing not that much...
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> Mike
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Re: FYI- [7:2897]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

I'd love to see further breakouts at skill levels/job duties.  Plus, with
everyone afraid of technology companies right now, the big push for people
to "re-educate" into Microsoft/Cisco jobs will probably slacken and keep
demand up.

Of course, it's all just speculation.  If the US economy continues to fumble
around and even tumble further down, then even though the need is there,
companies won't be hiring and will put more work-load on their current IT
staff.

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> FYI
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  http://www.idc.com/itforecaster/itf20010320.stm
>
>
> Dave Cooper - CCNP, CCDP, NNCSS
> Network Engineer




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Re: Lost Cisco CD [7:2727]

2001-05-02 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Dont Mind Rashid's dumb questions
Don
- Original Message -
From: "Rashid Lohiya" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: Lost Cisco CD [7:2727]


> Uh! Silly question, but what does DMR stand for?
>
> Rashid
>
> ""Kevin Wigle""  wrote in message
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> > ok, my internet email was down for a few hours..
> >
> > You didn't offend me but you should reflect on how your response looks to
> > the potential customers DMR could have from this list.  You are using a
> > corporate email account and therefore everytime you hit that send button,
> > thousands of people have the availability to judge DMR through your
> actions.
> >
> > If you can't see that then I can't help you either.
> >
> > Kevin Wigle
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From:
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: Lost Cisco CD [7:2727]
> >
> >
> > > I am sorry if I have offended anyone but to me a two word reply
> seems
> > > downright ignorant.
> > >
> > > Hence my argument if you do want to help dont
> > >
> > > If you were a customer what would you think of a two word answer to a
> > > solution ??
> > >
> > > Not professional eitheir...
> > >
> > > Regards, Peter.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Kevin Wigle"  on 02/05/2001 15:13:59
> > >
> > > To:   ,
> > > cc:
> > >
> > > Subject:  Re: Lost Cisco CD [7:2727]
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > Just what is the matter with you???
> > >
> > > I'm sure that DMR acceptable use policy for email doesn't include this
> > kind
> > > of abuse.
> > >
> > > Sure Patrick simply stated the obvious - but he didn't do it in an
> > ignorant
> > > way like your response.
> > >
> > > If you don't know that requesting help from your Cisco rep to replace a
> > > lost
> > > CD is obvious then his advice was helpful.
> > >
> > > Otherwise you do yourself and your company a dis-service by going off
> the
> > > deep end here.
> > >
> > > If I were Patrick I would send this thread to hr @ DMR and ask their
> > > opinion
> > > if this is the type of "advertising" that DMR wants on a high traffic,
> > > highly visible and professional mail list.
> > >
> > > Can you guess their probable reply?
> > >
> > > Kevin Wigle
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From:
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Lost Cisco CD [7:2727]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Patrick,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Im sorry... but if you going to bother replying at least try to be
> > > f**king
> > > > helpful...
> > > >
> > > > if you are not... dont bother please !!!
> > > >
> > > > Regards, Peter.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Patrick Bass"  on 01/05/2001 14:15:21
> > > >
> > > > To:
> > > > cc:
> > > >
> > > > Subject:  Re: Lost Cisco CD [7:2727]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your Rep
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From:
> > > > Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 7:02 AM
> > > > Subject: Lost Cisco CD [7:2727]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > We have the Cisco Works 2000 package in work, I wish to re-install
> > this
> > > > > software, but as usual
> > > > > the install CD has gone missing... I only have the
documentation
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone tell me what the best point of contact in Cisco is for
> > > > obtaining
> > > > > a replacement CD ??
> > > > >
> > > > > I am thinking this process could take some time
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your help...
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards, Peter.
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Re: Cisco VPN Client..... [7:2865]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

And folks get protocols and tcp/udp ports confused.  It's not simply running
on another port, but a different protocol (ESP).

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> You should permit ip protocols 50 and 51 ( IPSec AH and ESP ) on the
> firewall.
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/PSP/psp_view.pl?p=Hardware:PIX&s=Softwa
> re_Configuration#Software_Samples_%26_Tips
> watch the word wrap
>
> you need a CCO login to get here, but there are a lot of configuration and
> troubleshooting examples
>
> HTH
>
> Chuck
>
>
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>
> Is there anyway to force the Cisco VPN client to use port 80 for
> communications?  This would be used to get through firewall's allowing
only
> port 80.
>
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Re: Cisco VPN Client..... [7:2865]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

Depending on what you configure, you would require the first, and possible
one or both of the latter:
Protocol 50 (ESP)
Protocol 51 (AH)
Protocol 17 (UDP) Port 500 (ISAKMP)

http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc1700.html

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> hehe...funny.  If you could it'd be a big time security hole!
Besides...it
> requires 2 ports to work.  I think this was the subject of the April fools
> RFC this year too.  Port 80 being used to run tunnels so you don't have to
> bother with the network admin to get your job done.  ;)  I noticed that
> PCAnywhere won't allow you to go down to port 80 either.
>
> Allen May
> - Original Message -
> From: "Greene, Patrick"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 4:48 AM
> Subject: Cisco VPN Client. [7:2865]
>
>
> > Is there anyway to force the Cisco VPN client to use port 80 for
> > communications?  This would be used to get through firewall's allowing
> only
> > port 80.
> >
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Re: Cisco PIX vs Checkpoint FIrewall-1 [7:2878]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

Cisco's CCO has info:
http://cisco.com/go/pix/

Cisco always has links to studies that show them on top:
http://sartryck.idg.se/art/firewall7_eng.html

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> PIX firewall .
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Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Thanks for the testing! I have bad news for you. ;-) Three or 4 seconds is 
a lot of time.

An AppleTalk device sends its AARP frame to see if its address is unique 10 
times, with only 1/5 of a second between tries. Then it sends a 
ZIPGetNetInfo. It tries that 3 times, I think with the same timeout. This 
could happen before the switch is forwarding, even with portfast enabled it 
seems. (These timeout values may be dated. I haven't looked at AppleTalk in 
a while! But I bet it's still really fast, perhaps even faster on a G4? ;-)

My guess is that IPX and DHCP are really fast too. ARGH.

Priscilla

At 03:15 PM 5/2/01, Jason Roysdon wrote:
>I wonder what switch and software version you were running at the time?  I'm
>trying this on a Catalyst 3524 XL Inline Power running 12.0(5.2)XU (I
>haven't upgraded it, so that's whatever it shipped with).
>
>I did a number of tests (but not enough samples to make it 100% accurate on
>the timing, but a general idea +/- 2 seconds).  The digits "00:16:47," are
>time since boot, while the dated timestamps are accurate GMT.  For each of
>my tests, I would attempt to physically plug in the patch cable at :00
>seconds based on the clock on my laptop, and both the laptop and switch are
>accurate from ntp (the log is not timestamped at :00 seconds, but just for
>your reference).
>
>The first with the port in the "out of the box" state with it left at
>defaults:
>00:16:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> listening
>May  2 11:33:02.985 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
>state to up
>May  2 11:33:03.986 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
>FastEthernet0/6,
>changed state to up
>00:17:09: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> learning
>00:17:24: ST: sent Topology Change Notice on Port Group 1  vlan 1
>00:17:24: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> forwarding
>! 32 seconds
>
>At 32 seconds I had ping replies at my desktop (using a static address, as
>DHCP wouldn't be accurate to see how fast it comes up).
>
>Next, I wanted to see if the inline power slowed bringing the power up.  It
>doesn't appear to (of course, thinking about it, the only time it applies
>power is if it sees a certain loop/load between a pair of wires, the details
>I don't recall):
>
>Cat3524(config-if)#power inline never
>00:18:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> listening
>May  2 11:35:02.497 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
>state to up
>May  2 11:35:03.498 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
>FastEthernet0/6,
>changed state to up
>00:19:09: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> learning
>00:19:24: ST: sent Topology Change Notice on Port Group 1  vlan 1
>00:19:24: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> forwarding
>!32 seconds
>
>Again, 32 seconds with spanning tree left to the defaults.  30 seconds as
>far as the switch was concerned.
>
>Now lets enable portfast:
>
>Cat3524(config-if)#span portfast
>00:20:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 ->jump to forwarding from blocking
>May  2 11:37:02.483 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
>state to up
>May  2 11:37:03.485 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
>FastEthernet0/6,
>changed state to up
>! 3 seconds
>
>In 3 seconds my PC was pinging with portfast set.
>
>My final test, I wanted to see if locking to speed and duplex would increase
>the time at all:
>
>interface FastEthernet0/6
>  duplex full
>  speed 100
>  power inline never
>  spanning-tree portfast
>
>Cat3524#
>00:22:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 ->jump to forwarding from blocking
>May  2 11:39:03.165 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
>state to up
>May  2 11:39:04.166 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
>FastEthernet0/6,
>changed state to up
>May  2 11:39:06.622 PDT: %RTD-1-LINK_FLAP: FastEthernet0/6 link down/up 5
>times per minsh
>int
>
>Oops, the switch doesn't like all the flapping of my tests and left it in an
>down/up state (good thing to know though!).
>
>Ok, give it a moment without the cable connected and try again:
>
>Cat3524#
>00:26:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 ->jump to forwarding from blocking
>May  2 11:43:03.200 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
>state to up
>May  2 11:43:04.201 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
>FastEthernet0/6,
>changed state to up
>!4 seconds
>
>I think this time I was a little slow getting the cable in, but basically
>the same results, 3-4 seconds and the port is up and pinging from my
>connected laptop.  That shouldn't be a problem for any network devices, I
>wouldn't think.  The only way I could see it affecting is if during boot the
>NIC is not activated until the drivers load, and then within 1-2 seconds the
>protocol stack gets access to the NIC before the switch takes the port
>up/up, but I don't think this would be any different with or without
>spanning-tree enabled.
>
>
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>
>

OT: Hotmail account members still valid posters [Re: CCNA Test [7:2938]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

No Boson experience, but ditto on the Hotmail.  This list is public (well,
the archive is) and searched by all your favorite search engines and
spam-miners, and one less place to be giving out an email account we care
about.

If anyone really wants my email address, it's the same as my Homepage
domain, just swap the dot for the @.

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> I use a hotmail address, and I have to politely disagree about the Boson
> Tests. I am a Cicso Reseller, and I presonally know CCIE who have told me
> that Boson is good. And they work for Cisco.
>
> Dan Evensen CCNAWS
>
>
> > > I think.  The
> > > Boson test isn't too expensive (30 Dollar range)  can I get
> > > some feedback on
> > > the different tests??
> >
> > from my experience, none of the CCNA practice tests seem that great, and
I
> > often hear comments from people who've taken the exams saying how the
> > questions were very different to the practice tests. I certainly
wouldn't
> > waste money on them - there are plenty of free questions to be found,
plus
> > the study guides normally have a good selection.
> >
> > Practice tests usually sell themselves on being 'real exam simulations'
to
> > prepare you for the real exam situation. Well, even if you've never used
> > exam software before I don't think it will present too many
difficulties!
> >
> > don't pay much attention to testimonials either - we seem to get a lot
of
> > these posted on the list from anonymous/hotmail addresses with glowing
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CVOICE question [7:2937]

2001-05-02 Thread Omer Ehsan Dar

Hi all,
I wanted to know if anybody knows where I can get the cvoice materials
other than the student guide. As I understand it the new exam has all
the previous exam's contents but that they have been updated the rumour
around here is that the new exam is going to be split up into VoIP,
VATM, VoFR. 
If someone can send me the student guid eI would be grateful. Is the
Voice over IP book good for this exam.
Any other materials will be helpful plz send me the links a ny helpful
web sites.
Omer Ehsan Dar




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Re: VLAN's and Routers [7:2891]

2001-05-02 Thread Karen E Young

Sammi,

At my last position I was called in to redesign a smallish corporate
network. They had 23 VLANs running on a 2621 router. The average CPU
utilization was in the range of 30% to 40%. When I dropped it to 4 VLANs the
utilization dropped to between 1% and 3%. While I'm sure that the 3600 could
do the job you want it to do, you really don't need any more than a 2600
series.

Hope this helps,
Karen

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>Thanks all, for the advice.
>Looks like I should go with a router, am looking at 2600 and 3600
>series.
>I will have no more than 6 VLAN's, more likely 4.
>Any suggestions on which model to purchase?
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RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Hire, Ejay

There is an Apple knowledgebase article about this issue.

It is Doc#30922.

Ejay Hire

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Believe it or not it's true!  We did some test/research on it and we had to
modify some of our login processes to allow the switch to go the  STP
process for login, it appeared we were requesting to quickly for the switch.


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If it really takes 15-30 seconds for a switch to forward even when portfast 
is enabled, I can see why AppleTalk nodes would hate this. An AppleTalk 
node sends messages right away to make sure its own address is unique, and 
to find the nearest router, and verify the network number(s) and zone 
name(s) for its local network. If the switch isn't forwarding these frames, 
the Mac will think it's on a non-routed single network, when it probably 
isn't. Worst of all, it might end up with the same address as some other 
AppleTalk device.

However.. I find it hard to believe that even with portfast enabled a 
switch takes 15-30 seconds to forward traffic. Is that really true?

Priscilla

At 01:22 AM 5/2/01, Jim Gillen wrote:
>I have had plenty of experience with this problem when I updated a token
ring
>network to a fully switched ethernet network.
>
>CISCO has a document on spanning tree and these types of problems.
>
>Enabling portfast still means that it takes 15-30sec for the port on a
switch
>to come up. If you workstation needs to attach to a server (as with the
>Novell
>Client) by sending GetNearestServer (or the like packets) and it needs a
>reply
>to attach during that 15 - 30 sec then it will fail to connect. There may
be
>other problems with the Mac's -???
>
>I would read the document on the CISCO site and then if that doesn't help
let
>us know what is the nature of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> "Jason Roysdon"  2/05/01 13:30:21 >>>
>This message has been scanned by MAILSweeper.
>
>
>The customer claims that even with portfast enabled the Macs won't function
>due to Spanning tree.  Has anyone else heard any such rumors about this?
My
>guess, as you suggested, is that portfast would solve it, but supposedly it
>was tried before disabling spanning tree.
>
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>
>""Leigh Anne Chisholm""  wrote in message
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> > It's a symptom of the problem I wrote about earlier in this thread.
When
>a
> > MAC becomes active on the network, the computer isn't able to
communicate
>for
> > the first 50 seconds the port detects the end-system is active.  The
port
> > begins in blocking mode, then transitions to listening, then learning.
> > Finally, once STP determines that a looped topology hasn't occurred, the
>port
> > is set to forwarding mode.  This creates havoc with any end-system that
> > expects to receive over-the-network information within the first 50
>seconds.
> > IP, IPX, AppleTalk - all face the same issue.
> >
> > The simple solution isn't to kill Spanning Tree on all switches - that's
>the
> > "I don't understand the problem so I'll do whatever works and create a
>bigger
> > problem" solution.  The real solution is to enable portfast on all
switch
> > ports that have end-systems directly connected.  The caveat to this is
to
> > ensure none of the end-systems are capable as acting as a bridge,
>forwarding
> > packets between LAN segments.  Enabling portfast essentially disables
> > Spanning
> > Tree on a port - and Spanning Tree is used to ensure a loop-free
>environment.
> >
> >
> >   -- Leigh Anne
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: April 30, 2001 7:15 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, speaking of AppleTalk.  We've got a customer (not mine, but one of
>the
> > > engineers working the account bounced this off me):  They claim their
>new
> > > Macs can't access the network if Spanning Tree is enabled.  Supposedly
>this
> > > has been verified by Apple and TAC (but we've never had a customer lie
>to
> > > us, so that must be gospel, right.  Heh, not).  I don't know what
>exactly
> > > the details are, but basically it just doesn't function.  The simple
> > > solution is to kill spanning-tree on all the switches, but this is at
a
> > > number of public schools, and I can't wait to hear about a kid
bringing
>in
> > > his Linksys 8 port 10/100 switch and melting their network.
> > >
> > > Anyone else hear such rumors?
> > >
> > > --
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Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]

2001-05-02 Thread Raul F. Fernandez-IGLOU

Will a CCNA do?

Raul
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:02 PM
Subject: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]


> The following is a job description I recently received from my client
which
> needs to be filled immediately.
>
> We are looking for a Cisco Certified CCIE, living and working in West
> Virginia.
>
> Please send resume and rates as soon as possible.
>
> CCIE
>
> DURATION: 1 YEAR (CONTRACT)
>
> START DATE: 7/1/01 - 6/30/02
>
> LOCATION: WEST VIRGINIA
>
>
> NEED TO FILL NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, MAY 4TH 2001
>
> DESCRIPTION OF WORK ASSIGNMENT:
>
> The vendor and/or his protigies should be authorized to ser vice 3Com,
> Nortel Networks, and Enterasys/Cabletron equipment currently installed in
> State agencies.
> The vendor should provide proof from the manufacturer confirming this
> authorization to service the equipment and a list of the products covered.
>
> PROJECT / ENVIRONMENT DESCRIPTION:
>
> What type of work is being done?
> * Custom Application Development
> * Application Management Outsourcing
> * Package Integration
> * Application Enabling Design
> * Solutions Consulting & Integration
> * Other network hardware installation
>
>
> LOCALS PLEASE
>
> PLEASE FORWARD A COPY OF YOUR RESUME AND CALL ME IMMEDIATELY...Thanks
> (:) )
>
> Claudette
>
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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> Technical Recruiter
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RE: VLAN's and Routers [7:2534]

2001-05-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Sammi, in terms of sizing, the best piece of equipment is the least cost
router that does the job.

Think in these terms - traffic flow, application requirements, etc.

If you were routing between two subnets, using two ethernet ports, and had
75 users per subnet, how would you provision?

The only difference between 150 users on four physical subnets and 150 users
on four logical subnets is the single interface that traffic in and out
uses, versus the four interfaces.

Are your applications such that 150 folks are going to overload that 100
megabits full duplex link?  In practical terms, will there be a lot of
inter-VLAN traffic? I.e do members of each VLAN access the same primary
servers ( which would lead me to wonder why you need VLANs in the first
place ), or do they all access servers specific to their VLAN? All your
routes will be in cache probably 100% of the time. You won't be killing the
CPU with route lookups in any case.

HTH

Chuck

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On 2 May 2001 02:45:45 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Bill Pearch")
wrote:

>This is a Cisco type email list.  There IS a Cisco answer.

And that's what I'm after, was just exploring other possibilities.
Now I need to decide what type of router to purchase; ~150 users split
between 4-6 VLAN's.

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Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon

I wonder what switch and software version you were running at the time?  I'm
trying this on a Catalyst 3524 XL Inline Power running 12.0(5.2)XU (I
haven't upgraded it, so that's whatever it shipped with).

I did a number of tests (but not enough samples to make it 100% accurate on
the timing, but a general idea +/- 2 seconds).  The digits "00:16:47," are
time since boot, while the dated timestamps are accurate GMT.  For each of
my tests, I would attempt to physically plug in the patch cable at :00
seconds based on the clock on my laptop, and both the laptop and switch are
accurate from ntp (the log is not timestamped at :00 seconds, but just for
your reference).

The first with the port in the "out of the box" state with it left at
defaults:
00:16:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> listening
May  2 11:33:02.985 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
state to up
May  2 11:33:03.986 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/6,
changed state to up
00:17:09: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> learning
00:17:24: ST: sent Topology Change Notice on Port Group 1  vlan 1
00:17:24: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> forwarding
! 32 seconds

At 32 seconds I had ping replies at my desktop (using a static address, as
DHCP wouldn't be accurate to see how fast it comes up).

Next, I wanted to see if the inline power slowed bringing the power up.  It
doesn't appear to (of course, thinking about it, the only time it applies
power is if it sees a certain loop/load between a pair of wires, the details
I don't recall):

Cat3524(config-if)#power inline never
00:18:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> listening
May  2 11:35:02.497 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
state to up
May  2 11:35:03.498 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/6,
changed state to up
00:19:09: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> learning
00:19:24: ST: sent Topology Change Notice on Port Group 1  vlan 1
00:19:24: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 -> forwarding
!32 seconds

Again, 32 seconds with spanning tree left to the defaults.  30 seconds as
far as the switch was concerned.

Now lets enable portfast:

Cat3524(config-if)#span portfast
00:20:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 ->jump to forwarding from blocking
May  2 11:37:02.483 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
state to up
May  2 11:37:03.485 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/6,
changed state to up
! 3 seconds

In 3 seconds my PC was pinging with portfast set.

My final test, I wanted to see if locking to speed and duplex would increase
the time at all:

interface FastEthernet0/6
 duplex full
 speed 100
 power inline never
 spanning-tree portfast

Cat3524#
00:22:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 ->jump to forwarding from blocking
May  2 11:39:03.165 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
state to up
May  2 11:39:04.166 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/6,
changed state to up
May  2 11:39:06.622 PDT: %RTD-1-LINK_FLAP: FastEthernet0/6 link down/up 5
times per minsh
int

Oops, the switch doesn't like all the flapping of my tests and left it in an
down/up state (good thing to know though!).

Ok, give it a moment without the cable connected and try again:

Cat3524#
00:26:54: ST: FastEthernet0/6 vlan 1 ->jump to forwarding from blocking
May  2 11:43:03.200 PDT: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface FastEthernet0/6, changed
state to up
May  2 11:43:04.201 PDT: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
FastEthernet0/6,
changed state to up
!4 seconds

I think this time I was a little slow getting the cable in, but basically
the same results, 3-4 seconds and the port is up and pinging from my
connected laptop.  That shouldn't be a problem for any network devices, I
wouldn't think.  The only way I could see it affecting is if during boot the
NIC is not activated until the drivers load, and then within 1-2 seconds the
protocol stack gets access to the NIC before the switch takes the port
up/up, but I don't think this would be any different with or without
spanning-tree enabled.


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""Jim Gillen""  wrote in message
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> I have had plenty of experience with this problem when I updated a token
ring
> network to a fully switched ethernet network.
>
> CISCO has a document on spanning tree and these types of problems.
>
> Enabling portfast still means that it takes 15-30sec for the port on a
switch
> to come up. If you workstation needs to attach to a server (as with the
> Novell
> Client) by sending GetNearestServer (or the like packets) and it needs a
> reply
> to attach during that 15 - 30 sec then it will fail to connect. There may
be
> other problems with the Mac's -???
>
> I would read the document on the CISCO site and then if that doesn't help
let
> us know what is the nature of the problem.

BGP Decision Process [7:2930]

2001-05-02 Thread Brett Johnson

We have two routers connected to two different ISPs through BGP.  We are
using HSRP for internal redundancy.  When the primary
router in our HSRP receives a packet destined for a different ISP then our
two, which way would our router send it
if the length of the AS-Path is equal for both paths.  If I am reading it
right the router should forward out to the
ISP it is connected to because EBGP is preferred over IBGP when the AS-Path
is the same and there is no weight or preference. 
Am I correct?  Also can we prefer one path over another based on the
destination AS number?  For example if we always want
to reach AS 155 through provider A is there a way to do this?


Thank you 


Brett Johnson




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RE: OSPF redistribution [7:2909]

2001-05-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I'm not so sure that it "flushes" the database. LSA's are sent out
advertising the new route. This is true whenever changes to the routing
table are made / detected / updated.

One way to actually see what is going on is to do a debug IP OSPF
LSA-GENERATION

The LSA's are created and sent very quickly. If you have a sniffer on the
wire you will see the new route as part of the packet, and sent out
immediately.

HTH

Chuck

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Subject:OSPF redistribution [7:2909]

Hi all,

I have a question is that

In the existing network all routers are running OSPF and "redistribute
static subnets" are already configured. If I add one more static route
in one of the routers. Am I right that there is change in OSPF database,
then it would trigger to flush the routing table and also the other OSPF
routers in the network?
However, I always need to "clear ip route *" in some routers for quicker
response.

Thanks


Best Regards,
mak
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Re: VLAN's and Routers [7:2534]

2001-05-02 Thread Sammi

On 2 May 2001 02:45:45 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Bill Pearch")
wrote:

>This is a Cisco type email list.  There IS a Cisco answer.

And that's what I'm after, was just exploring other possibilities.
Now I need to decide what type of router to purchase; ~150 users split
between 4-6 VLAN's.

Thanks for the tips!




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RE: Multiple VLAN addressing question [7:2905]

2001-05-02 Thread Lopez, Robert

What's the reason for not using the supervisor module Eth port to provide
the trunk?  TIA!

Robert 

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For starters I would not use the supervisor module to trunk use one of your
fast Ethernet port on module Two for the trunk.

D'Wayne Saunders
Senior MIS Operator,CCNA


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Dear CiscoGroupstudy.com
 
 I am having trouble getting the trunk up between a Cisco 7513 Router   
 and a Cisco Switch 5500 so that VLAN's 10 and 20 can cross it. It may 
 be because I can't set interface sc0 on the 5500 switch correctly.
 
 Assume VLAN 10 is   10.10.0.0/16 port 2/1 on Cisco 5500 switch
VLAN 20  is  10.20.0.0/16 port 2/2 on Cisco 5500 switch
 
 Assume ISL Trunk 1/1 connected between 1/1 on Cisco 5500 switch to 
 FastEthernet 3/0/0 to Cisco 7513 Router  
 
 FastEthernet3/0/0.10 = 10.10.1.1
 FastEthernet3/0/0.20 = 10.20.1.1
 
 what should I use for the address for interface sc0 on the Switch? 
 
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Re: Policy routing [7:2871]

2001-05-02 Thread EA Louie

This would be a good case of making it work before adding the other
commands, and then knowing why you're doing it.  Hence, I'd ask these
questions:

1.  How can 1.1.1.1 and 2.2.2.x/24 be in the same VLAN/subnet unless one is
a secondary off the high-end router? (traceroute 1.1.1.1)
2.  If they are indeed in the same subnet, then does the policy-map really
'route' to 1.1.1.1? (show route-map)
3.  Do you understanding policy routing and the purpose of performing it?
(show ip policy)
4.  Have you checked the status of the ACL used for the route-map? (show
access-list 1)
5.  What happens when the policy route is not implemented?  Is your routing
to 1.1.1.1 working then? (show ip route)
6.  Are you sure your configuration is correct?
(http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/36.html)

-e-

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 4:44 AM
Subject: Policy routing [7:2871]


> Hi,
>
> I am having problem with my policy routing, hope that anyone can help me.
>
> 1) 1.1.1.1 is a low-end router connected to my high-end router (
multihomed,
> running HSRP).
> 2) 1.1.1.1 is in VLAN 154
> 3) 5.5.5.1 is the another neighbour router peering with my high-router
> router.
>
> The problem is whenever I implement "ip policy route-map TEST" on the "int
> fa1/1/0.154", the routing to router 1.1.1.1 will fail and the
policy-routing
> won't work.
>
> Please advise.
>
> Andy
>
>
> Configuration:
>
> interface FastEthernet1/1/0.154
>  encapsulation isl 154
>  ip address 2.2.2.253 255.255.255.0
>  no ip redirects
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  standby 154 priority 120 preempt
>  standby 154 ip 2.2.2.1
>
>
> ip access-list 1 permit 1.1.1.1
>
> route-map TEST permit 1
>  match ip address 1
>  set ip next-hop 5.5.5.1
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Re: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]

2001-05-02 Thread EA Louie

this is a study list.  you can post jobs to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

also, don't you find it interesting that you client wants a CCIE (Cisco
Certified Internetwork Expert)  but has 3Com, Nortel, and Cabletron
requirements in the job description?  You might wish to clarify that with
them before moving on a 6-figure annual CCIE (and CCIE's ask for even more
$$$ for contract work because of the inherent risk)

-e-

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Subject: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]


> The following is a job description I recently received from my client
which
> needs to be filled immediately.
>
> We are looking for a Cisco Certified CCIE, living and working in West
> Virginia.
>
> Please send resume and rates as soon as possible.
>
> CCIE
>
> DURATION: 1 YEAR (CONTRACT)
>
> START DATE: 7/1/01 - 6/30/02
>
> LOCATION: WEST VIRGINIA
>
>
> NEED TO FILL NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, MAY 4TH 2001
>
> DESCRIPTION OF WORK ASSIGNMENT:
>
> The vendor and/or his protigies should be authorized to ser vice 3Com,
> Nortel Networks, and Enterasys/Cabletron equipment currently installed in
> State agencies.
> The vendor should provide proof from the manufacturer confirming this
> authorization to service the equipment and a list of the products covered.
>
> PROJECT / ENVIRONMENT DESCRIPTION:
>
> What type of work is being done?
> * Custom Application Development
> * Application Management Outsourcing
> * Package Integration
> * Application Enabling Design
> * Solutions Consulting & Integration
> * Other network hardware installation
>
>
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RE: NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]

2001-05-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Non Cisco certified CCIE's need not apply :->



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Claudette Graham
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Subject:NEED CCIE in the  WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]

The following is a job description I recently received from my client which
needs to be filled immediately.

We are looking for a Cisco Certified CCIE, living and working in West
Virginia.

Please send resume and rates as soon as possible.

CCIE

DURATION: 1 YEAR (CONTRACT)

START DATE: 7/1/01 - 6/30/02

LOCATION:   WEST VIRGINIA


NEED TO FILL NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, MAY 4TH 2001

DESCRIPTION OF WORK ASSIGNMENT:

The vendor and/or his protigies should be authorized to ser vice 3Com,
Nortel Networks, and Enterasys/Cabletron equipment currently installed in
State agencies.
The vendor should provide proof from the manufacturer confirming this
authorization to service the equipment and a list of the products covered.

PROJECT / ENVIRONMENT DESCRIPTION:

What type of work is being done?
* Custom Application Development
* Application Management Outsourcing
* Package Integration
* Application Enabling Design
* Solutions Consulting & Integration
* Other network hardware installation


LOCALS PLEASE

PLEASE FORWARD A COPY OF YOUR RESUME AND CALL ME IMMEDIATELY...Thanks
(:) )

Claudette


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Re: CCIE written and BOSON tests [7:2840]

2001-05-02 Thread Brant I. Stevens

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Amen.

Personally, I found the tests INVALUABLE in passing the CCIE written
on the first go-round.  I only hope that I can repeat that
performance for the lab in September...  :)

- -Brant

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:39 PM
Subject: CCIE written and BOSON tests [7:2840]


> Pre-CCIE written folks,
> 
> Instead of continually responing to the same question, I will
> answer it  here:
> 
> I passed the CCIE written by using ALL 3 of the BOSON tests. I
> cannot really  say which test had more questions in relation to the
> actual exam, but  suffice it to say that instead of asking me which
> one of the three is the  best, you should plunk down the measly $90
> and buy all three. Isn't the  point of this to gain knowledge and
> become excellent at what you do through  that knowledge? Spend time
> going through all 600+ questions(some are  repetitive) and learn
> not only the answers, but the why; use the referenced  links to
> Cisco's website and/or Caslow book. You can never study too much 
> material as long as it's relevant to your future success. Right?
> 
> Oh, and don't take this to mean that the BOSON's will be enough to
> pass  alone, you need some good fundamentals in networking and a
> couple of the  better books out there. I suggest the new CCIE
> TCP/IP volume II book by  Cisco Press, and Volume II caslow book.
> Read and remember!
> 
> Good Luck
> 
> Scott
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Re: Emutel solo ISDN simulator opinions needed [7:2918]

2001-05-02 Thread Erich Kuehn

This might seem like a strange answer, but (if available) why dont you just
get a couple of BRI installed where you are and pay the monthly charges
until your done with it. That seems far cheaper than buying a simulator.

Just my .02

Erich
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Subject: Emutel solo ISDN simulator opinions needed [7:2918]


> Does anybody have any opinions on the Emutel solo ISDN simulator from Arca
> technologies. I hear great things about the Teltone but at $2800 for the
> model that handles both ST and U interfaces i started looking for an
> alternative. It appears the Emutel Solo can be had for a retail of around
> $2000 and supports both types of interfaces. If you have experience with
> this product can you leave a brief review and some pros and cons?  Thanks.
>
> Ed Dombrowski
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RE: Cisco VPN Client..... [7:2865]

2001-05-02 Thread Evans, TJ

Some remote control software  will allow you to
port-hop to a specific port ... but it is a major security risk :).



Thanks!
TJ

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hehe...funny.  If you could it'd be a big time security hole!  Besides...it
requires 2 ports to work.  I think this was the subject of the April fools
RFC this year too.  Port 80 being used to run tunnels so you don't have to
bother with the network admin to get your job done.  ;)  I noticed that
PCAnywhere won't allow you to go down to port 80 either.

Allen May
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Subject: Cisco VPN Client. [7:2865]


> Is there anyway to force the Cisco VPN client to use port 80 for
> communications?  This would be used to get through firewall's allowing
only
> port 80.
>
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RE: Multiple VLAN addressing question [7:2905]

2001-05-02 Thread Dwayne Saunders

For starters I would not use the supervisor module to trunk use one of your
fast Ethernet port on module Two for the trunk.

D'Wayne Saunders
Senior MIS Operator,CCNA


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Subject: Multiple VLAN addressing question [7:2905]


Dear CiscoGroupstudy.com
 
 I am having trouble getting the trunk up between a Cisco 7513 Router   
 and a Cisco Switch 5500 so that VLAN's 10 and 20 can cross it. It may 
 be because I can't set interface sc0 on the 5500 switch correctly.
 
 Assume VLAN 10 is   10.10.0.0/16 port 2/1 on Cisco 5500 switch
VLAN 20  is  10.20.0.0/16 port 2/2 on Cisco 5500 switch
 
 Assume ISL Trunk 1/1 connected between 1/1 on Cisco 5500 switch to 
 FastEthernet 3/0/0 to Cisco 7513 Router  
 
 FastEthernet3/0/0.10 = 10.10.1.1
 FastEthernet3/0/0.20 = 10.20.1.1
 
 what should I use for the address for interface sc0 on the Switch? 
 
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NEED CCIE in the WEST VIRGINIA AREA [7:2919]

2001-05-02 Thread Claudette Graham

The following is a job description I recently received from my client which
needs to be filled immediately.

We are looking for a Cisco Certified CCIE, living and working in West
Virginia.

Please send resume and rates as soon as possible.

CCIE

DURATION: 1 YEAR (CONTRACT)

START DATE: 7/1/01 - 6/30/02

LOCATION:   WEST VIRGINIA


NEED TO FILL NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, MAY 4TH 2001

DESCRIPTION OF WORK ASSIGNMENT:

The vendor and/or his protigies should be authorized to ser vice 3Com,
Nortel Networks, and Enterasys/Cabletron equipment currently installed in
State agencies.
The vendor should provide proof from the manufacturer confirming this
authorization to service the equipment and a list of the products covered.

PROJECT / ENVIRONMENT DESCRIPTION:

What type of work is being done?
* Custom Application Development
* Application Management Outsourcing
* Package Integration
* Application Enabling Design
* Solutions Consulting & Integration
* Other network hardware installation


LOCALS PLEASE

PLEASE FORWARD A COPY OF YOUR RESUME AND CALL ME IMMEDIATELY...Thanks
(:) )

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RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Believe it or not it's true!  We did some test/research on it and we had to
modify some of our login processes to allow the switch to go the  STP
process for login, it appeared we were requesting to quickly for the switch.


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Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]


If it really takes 15-30 seconds for a switch to forward even when portfast 
is enabled, I can see why AppleTalk nodes would hate this. An AppleTalk 
node sends messages right away to make sure its own address is unique, and 
to find the nearest router, and verify the network number(s) and zone 
name(s) for its local network. If the switch isn't forwarding these frames, 
the Mac will think it's on a non-routed single network, when it probably 
isn't. Worst of all, it might end up with the same address as some other 
AppleTalk device.

However.. I find it hard to believe that even with portfast enabled a 
switch takes 15-30 seconds to forward traffic. Is that really true?

Priscilla

At 01:22 AM 5/2/01, Jim Gillen wrote:
>I have had plenty of experience with this problem when I updated a token
ring
>network to a fully switched ethernet network.
>
>CISCO has a document on spanning tree and these types of problems.
>
>Enabling portfast still means that it takes 15-30sec for the port on a
switch
>to come up. If you workstation needs to attach to a server (as with the
>Novell
>Client) by sending GetNearestServer (or the like packets) and it needs a
>reply
>to attach during that 15 - 30 sec then it will fail to connect. There may
be
>other problems with the Mac's -???
>
>I would read the document on the CISCO site and then if that doesn't help
let
>us know what is the nature of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> "Jason Roysdon"  2/05/01 13:30:21 >>>
>This message has been scanned by MAILSweeper.
>
>
>The customer claims that even with portfast enabled the Macs won't function
>due to Spanning tree.  Has anyone else heard any such rumors about this?
My
>guess, as you suggested, is that portfast would solve it, but supposedly it
>was tried before disabling spanning tree.
>
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>
>
>
>""Leigh Anne Chisholm""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > It's a symptom of the problem I wrote about earlier in this thread.
When
>a
> > MAC becomes active on the network, the computer isn't able to
communicate
>for
> > the first 50 seconds the port detects the end-system is active.  The
port
> > begins in blocking mode, then transitions to listening, then learning.
> > Finally, once STP determines that a looped topology hasn't occurred, the
>port
> > is set to forwarding mode.  This creates havoc with any end-system that
> > expects to receive over-the-network information within the first 50
>seconds.
> > IP, IPX, AppleTalk - all face the same issue.
> >
> > The simple solution isn't to kill Spanning Tree on all switches - that's
>the
> > "I don't understand the problem so I'll do whatever works and create a
>bigger
> > problem" solution.  The real solution is to enable portfast on all
switch
> > ports that have end-systems directly connected.  The caveat to this is
to
> > ensure none of the end-systems are capable as acting as a bridge,
>forwarding
> > packets between LAN segments.  Enabling portfast essentially disables
> > Spanning
> > Tree on a port - and Spanning Tree is used to ensure a loop-free
>environment.
> >
> >
> >   -- Leigh Anne
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: April 30, 2001 7:15 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, speaking of AppleTalk.  We've got a customer (not mine, but one of
>the
> > > engineers working the account bounced this off me):  They claim their
>new
> > > Macs can't access the network if Spanning Tree is enabled.  Supposedly
>this
> > > has been verified by Apple and TAC (but we've never had a customer lie
>to
> > > us, so that must be gospel, right.  Heh, not).  I don't know what
>exactly
> > > the details are, but basically it just doesn't function.  The simple
> > > solution is to kill spanning-tree on all the switches, but this is at
a
> > > number of public schools, and I can't wait to hear about a kid
bringing
>in
> > > his Linksys 8 port 10/100 switch and melting their network.
> > >
> > > Anyone else hear such rumors?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
> > > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> > > > At 11:08 AM 4/30/01, Phil Barker wrote:

Emutel solo ISDN simulator opinions needed [7:2918]

2001-05-02 Thread Ed Dombrowski

Does anybody have any opinions on the Emutel solo ISDN simulator from Arca
technologies. I hear great things about the Teltone but at $2800 for the
model that handles both ST and U interfaces i started looking for an
alternative. It appears the Emutel Solo can be had for a retail of around
$2000 and supports both types of interfaces. If you have experience with
this product can you leave a brief review and some pros and cons?  Thanks.

Ed Dombrowski




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Re: Excessive Retransmissions UPDATE [7:2553]

2001-05-02 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Sniffer's "excessive retransmissions" Expert symptom is for TCP traffic (in 
an IP environment.) So they probably weren't ARPs or broadcasts. I find the 
story intriguing but confusing also. But it sounds like the AS/400 was 
sending responses out the wrong port, so the client kept retransmitting. It 
also sounds like the AS/400 does its own routing and its static routes were 
hosed. Sure would make a good case study!?!

Priscilla

At 03:09 AM 5/2/01, EA Louie wrote:
>That is just the weirdest situation - maybe someone who knows the AS/400
>TCP/IP stack can shed some light on it.
>
>In my experience, the host will build a routing table dynamically, and also
>keep an ARP cache so that it knows how to direct packets to their correct
>destination interface.  As far as I know, those features are default ON when
>a host interface is configured - in fact, it's a pain to turn them OFF if
>you need to.  It's also interesting how we'll give an emotionless CPU an
>emotion (confused)  when it doesn't do what we want/expect it to do.   ;-)
>(We also give them gender - no flames, puh-leeze...)
>
>I would expect the "broadcasts" that were seen to be ARP requests (but you
>saw them as retransmissions?  going out a different interface than where the
>packet was received?).  I'd personally love to see a few of the Sniffer
>traces to see if I could help pinpoint the cause of the problem.  One of the
>wonderful features of Sniffer Pro is the Expert Summary.  Unfortunately, is
>has also caused some of us (like me) to get lazy and not dig into the actual
>traces to recreate the packet flow(s), preferring instead to accept the
>Expert Summary of the conditions.
>
>-e-
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Sites, Bob ;
>To: ;
>Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:50 AM
>Subject: RE: Excessive Retransmissions UPDATE [7:2553]
>
>
> >
> > Our AS400 does have multiple NIC's. Two ether and two token. The biggest
> > problem we could see on our sniffer was that traffic from a workstation
> > would come into the AS400 on one interface, say token2, and instead of
>going
> > out token2 back to the workstation originating the traffic, it would go
>out
> > an ether port, or the opposite token port? It didn't appear to have any
> > rhyme or reason where it passed traffic without the static routes. This
>was
> > sending traffic everywhere. Throughout all our token rings and ether
> > networks. All the retransmit traffic we seen on the sniffer seemed to be
> > from workstations to the AS400. I know very little about the IBM world so
>if
> > you could enlighten me as to why the IBM box seemed to get confused, I
>would
> > love to pass it on to it's sysadmins? BobS
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: EA Louie
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:52 AM
> > To: Sites, Bob; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Excessive Retransmissions UPDATE [7:2553]
> >
> > thanks for sharing and updating us.   Just a few questions if you'd
> > indulge me, otherwise have a great day.
> > I'm kind of curious and very clueless since I don't know your network
> > architecture, but if you have a default gateway set on the AS/400 and IP
> > routing protocol running in your routers (even if it's static routes),
>then
> > unless you're running multiple NICs with multiple paths to the outside,
>why
> > would you need so many static routes in the AS/400 IP stack?  Why (for
> > example) would you not have all your IP routing handled the the router
> > level? I usually look at static routes on a host as a band-aid because I
> > didn't configure my network (read routers) properly - makes it hard for
me
> > to point my finger at the clueless sysadmins for eliminting routes that
>they
> > really
> > shouldn't need if I have a properly configured infrastructure.
> > And at the broadcast storm level, do you know why your routers were not
> > picking those up and routing them for the host?  In other words, was ARP
> > working at the host and router level?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Sites, Bob"
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 5:58 AM
> > Subject: Excessive Retransmissions UPDATE [7:2553]
> >
> > Just wanted to update the list on this matter because I feel that it
> > could very easily happen to anyone of you and it was very difficult to
> > locate the problem. Got to blame this one on Big Blue hardware. Yes, the
> > AS400 was the cause of all our problems here, once again. Apparently
>several
> > days prior to this problem, the AS400 was upgraded and a rollover
software
> > called Visions was added. This is similar in function to HSRP. A third
>party
> > software that allows rollover from one AS400 to another. Anyway, during
>the
> > setup for the rollover testing it was recommended that some static routes
>in
> > the AS400 be cleaned up and deleted. Way to go Visions! Our AS400 folks
> > didn't know any better and just deleted static routes down from about a
> > dozen to 4!!! Our
> > symptoms were major broadcast storms of retransmissions. Got to k

Re: BGP Route Reflector Question. [7:2900]

2001-05-02 Thread Peter Van Oene

Problem here.  RRclient1 is originating the route which means it must be
EBGP connected to another AS.  Hence, it must do the rewrite.  The RR server
never rewrites anything unless told to do so.  Further, Cisco does not
support IBGP next hop re-writes as far as I know.  I have seen and used this
concept in MPLS networks were I needed a specific IBGP only box to terminate
LSP's, but in reality, there are few cases where you want to rewrite
Next_Hop on an IBGP connection (Juniper supports this by the way)

Generally, you rewrite once at the perimeter in order to keep your IGP table
small.

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On 5/2/2001 at 1:09 PM Trey Webb wrote:

>next-hop-self on the route-reflector will work here.
>
>--trey
>- Original Message -
>From: "RAJESH.V.S" 
>To: 
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:26 PM
>Subject: BGP Route Reflector Question. [7:2900]
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Got a Doubt on BGP Route Reflectors. BGP  uses route reflectors to
>simplify
>> the IBGP mesh configuration.
>> Say a RR reflects an IBGP route announced by  RRclient-1   to another RR
>> client say, RRClient-2. The RR keeps the next hop of the IBGP network
>> announced by RRclient-1 un-altered while announcing to RRclient-2. Now if
>> the next hop i.e. RRClient-1 is inaccessible to RRclient-2 , RRClient-2
>> will not advertise that route to its peers ( EBGP/IBGP). And  IBGP peers
>can
>> be many hops away ( i.e. not directly connected/in same subnet). As per
>BGP
>> doc from Cisco , even if you use next-hop-self, only EBGP next hops will
>be
>> altered, not Reflected IBGP next hops.  So in a large IBGP only network
>( no
>> other IGP ), how will you ensure the connectivity to all the links
>between
>> RRClient nexthops?
>>
>> Will they use any IGP  or static route for this purpose ?. Or you have to
>> manipulate the point where you advertise each IBGP networks to contain
>> next-hop subnets also  ?. Or is there any  mistake in my understanding ?.
>>
>> Please advice,
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Regards
>> Rajesh
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RE: OSPF redistribution [7:2909]

2001-05-02 Thread Hire, Ejay

Are all of the routers in one area?  The other routers should see the new
route in the routing table as an E2 route if it is being redistributed
properly.  As for how long it will take the routers to converge on the
addition of a new route, that depends on the diameter of the network,
summarization, and area configuration.  There is an excellent explanation of
how to calculate the OSPF convergence time in the SYBEX CCNP 2.0 routing
book.  

Ejay Hire
... Answers are free.  Explanations will cost you a Diet Pepsi.  



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Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OSPF redistribution [7:2909]


Hi all,

I have a question is that

In the existing network all routers are running OSPF and "redistribute
static subnets" are already configured. If I add one more static route
in one of the routers. Am I right that there is change in OSPF database,
then it would trigger to flush the routing table and also the other OSPF
routers in the network? 
However, I always need to "clear ip route *" in some routers for quicker
response.

Thanks


Best Regards,
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Re: Multiple VLAN addressing question [7:2905]

2001-05-02 Thread Darren Crawford

Your sc0 interface can be in either VLAN you've mentioned or something
different.  The trunk should be configured something like this to allow VLANs
10 and 20 to traverse the cable:

Cat5K  (enable) >
set port enable 1/1
set port duplex 1/1  full
set trunk 1/1  on 10,20

Rtr7513#
!
int fa 3/0/0
 no ip address
 full-duplex
!
interface FastEthernet3/0/0.10
 encapsulation isl 10
 ip address 10.10.1.1 255.255.0.0
 arp timeout 0
!
interface FastEthernet3/0/0.20
 encapsulation isl 20
 ip address 10.20.1.1 255.255.0.0
 arp timeout 0
!

HTH

Darren


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> 
> I am having trouble getting the trunk up between a Cisco 7513 Router   
> and a Cisco Switch 5500 so that VLAN's 10 and 20 can cross it. It may 
> be because I can't set interface sc0 on the 5500 switch correctly.
> 
> Assume VLAN 10 is   10.10.0.0/16 port 2/1 on Cisco 5500 switch
>VLAN 20  is  10.20.0.0/16 port 2/2 on Cisco 5500 switch
> 
> Assume ISL Trunk 1/1 connected between 1/1 on Cisco 5500 switch to 
> FastEthernet 3/0/0 to Cisco 7513 Router  
> 
> FastEthernet3/0/0.10 = 10.10.1.1
> FastEthernet3/0/0.20 = 10.20.1.1
> 
> what should I use for the address for interface sc0 on the Switch? 
> 
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Re: BGP Route Reflector Question. [7:2900]

2001-05-02 Thread Peter Van Oene

Ok, I'll try to clear up some odd thoughts there.

RR's simply allow the mesh to scale more gracefully, they do not modify path
information (ie the Next_hop attribute) anywhere unless explicitly told to
do so.

Hence,

In your example,  RRClient which must be an ASBR (ie ebgp peering to outside
AS) learns a route and posts either the EBGP next hop or its own to the
Next_Hop field.  The RR server (assuming RR client1 and RRclient two are not
peering) will simply send the same info to RRClient2.  Hence, RRClient 2,
the RR server, RRclient1 and every other router in the network, no matter
how many times you reflect, will need reachability to the same Next_Hop. 
IGP's are used for this.

Pete


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On 5/2/2001 at 12:26 PM RAJESH.V.S wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Got a Doubt on BGP Route Reflectors. BGP  uses route reflectors to simplify
>the IBGP mesh configuration.
>Say a RR reflects an IBGP route announced by  RRclient-1   to another RR
>client say, RRClient-2. The RR keeps the next hop of the IBGP network
>announced by RRclient-1 un-altered while announcing to RRclient-2. Now if
>the next hop i.e. RRClient-1 is inaccessible to RRclient-2 , RRClient-2
>will not advertise that route to its peers ( EBGP/IBGP). And  IBGP peers
>can
>be many hops away ( i.e. not directly connected/in same subnet). As per BGP
>doc from Cisco , even if you use next-hop-self, only EBGP next hops will be
>altered, not Reflected IBGP next hops.  So in a large IBGP only network (
>no
>other IGP ), how will you ensure the connectivity to all the links between
>RRClient nexthops? 
>
>Will they use any IGP  or static route for this purpose ?. Or you have to
>manipulate the point where you advertise each IBGP networks to contain
>next-hop subnets also  ?. Or is there any  mistake in my understanding ?.
>
>Please advice,
>
>Thanks in advance
>Regards
>Rajesh
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Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

If it really takes 15-30 seconds for a switch to forward even when portfast 
is enabled, I can see why AppleTalk nodes would hate this. An AppleTalk 
node sends messages right away to make sure its own address is unique, and 
to find the nearest router, and verify the network number(s) and zone 
name(s) for its local network. If the switch isn't forwarding these frames, 
the Mac will think it's on a non-routed single network, when it probably 
isn't. Worst of all, it might end up with the same address as some other 
AppleTalk device.

However.. I find it hard to believe that even with portfast enabled a 
switch takes 15-30 seconds to forward traffic. Is that really true?

Priscilla

At 01:22 AM 5/2/01, Jim Gillen wrote:
>I have had plenty of experience with this problem when I updated a token
ring
>network to a fully switched ethernet network.
>
>CISCO has a document on spanning tree and these types of problems.
>
>Enabling portfast still means that it takes 15-30sec for the port on a
switch
>to come up. If you workstation needs to attach to a server (as with the
>Novell
>Client) by sending GetNearestServer (or the like packets) and it needs a
>reply
>to attach during that 15 - 30 sec then it will fail to connect. There may be
>other problems with the Mac's -???
>
>I would read the document on the CISCO site and then if that doesn't help
let
>us know what is the nature of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> "Jason Roysdon"  2/05/01 13:30:21 >>>
>This message has been scanned by MAILSweeper.
>
>
>The customer claims that even with portfast enabled the Macs won't function
>due to Spanning tree.  Has anyone else heard any such rumors about this?  My
>guess, as you suggested, is that portfast would solve it, but supposedly it
>was tried before disabling spanning tree.
>
>--
>Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
>List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>
>""Leigh Anne Chisholm""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > It's a symptom of the problem I wrote about earlier in this thread.  When
>a
> > MAC becomes active on the network, the computer isn't able to communicate
>for
> > the first 50 seconds the port detects the end-system is active.  The port
> > begins in blocking mode, then transitions to listening, then learning.
> > Finally, once STP determines that a looped topology hasn't occurred, the
>port
> > is set to forwarding mode.  This creates havoc with any end-system that
> > expects to receive over-the-network information within the first 50
>seconds.
> > IP, IPX, AppleTalk - all face the same issue.
> >
> > The simple solution isn't to kill Spanning Tree on all switches - that's
>the
> > "I don't understand the problem so I'll do whatever works and create a
>bigger
> > problem" solution.  The real solution is to enable portfast on all switch
> > ports that have end-systems directly connected.  The caveat to this is to
> > ensure none of the end-systems are capable as acting as a bridge,
>forwarding
> > packets between LAN segments.  Enabling portfast essentially disables
> > Spanning
> > Tree on a port - and Spanning Tree is used to ensure a loop-free
>environment.
> >
> >
> >   -- Leigh Anne
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: April 30, 2001 7:15 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, speaking of AppleTalk.  We've got a customer (not mine, but one of
>the
> > > engineers working the account bounced this off me):  They claim their
>new
> > > Macs can't access the network if Spanning Tree is enabled.  Supposedly
>this
> > > has been verified by Apple and TAC (but we've never had a customer lie
>to
> > > us, so that must be gospel, right.  Heh, not).  I don't know what
>exactly
> > > the details are, but basically it just doesn't function.  The simple
> > > solution is to kill spanning-tree on all the switches, but this is at a
> > > number of public schools, and I can't wait to hear about a kid bringing
>in
> > > his Linksys 8 port 10/100 switch and melting their network.
> > >
> > > Anyone else hear such rumors?
> > >
> > > --
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> > > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> > > > At 11:08 AM 4/30/01, Phil Barker wrote:
> > > > >Strongly in favour,
> > > > >
> > > > >A similar problem occurs in an IPX environment.
> > > > >Make sure all Servers/Clients are 'portfast' and
> > > > >switch/switch disable 'portfast'.
> > > >
> > > > A similar problem happens with AppleTalk too. That's what we get for
> > > > expecting switches to replace hubs in a topology. ;-) They were
>designed
> > > as
> > > > bridges and to talk to other br

RE: CCDP Book Info request [7:1475]

2001-05-02 Thread Greg Macaulay

Rashid,

Sorry to differ, but I thought the CCDA -- as well as the CID -- were
reasonably fair tests. I know you and others have complained -- but
everything that was on my test was contained in the DCN materials -- whether
one used the CD version or the book version -- which were 99% verbatim of
each other.

As for the CID exam -- again everything was in the Cisco Press book --
except StrataCom -- of which there was information contain in the Sybex
book.

DOn't get blown away by others.  Just sit down and read the materials --
twice -- or even three times if necessary -- then go and sit for the exam.
Actually, the CID exam for the most part builds on the knowledge you should
have been accumulating throughout the CCNA/NP study/exam process -- with
questions worded just a bit different.  Good luck.

Greg Macaulay
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Subject: CCDP Book Info request [7:1475]


I have passed the CCNA/DA and NP exams, to avoid having to re-certify for
CCDA, (which was a nightmare), I wish to do the CCDP certification.

Anyone got any recommendations on which would be a good book to read for
CCDP exam.

Thanks

Rashid Lohiya
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OSPF redistribution [7:2909]

2001-05-02 Thread mak

Hi all,

I have a question is that

In the existing network all routers are running OSPF and "redistribute
static subnets" are already configured. If I add one more static route
in one of the routers. Am I right that there is change in OSPF database,
then it would trigger to flush the routing table and also the other OSPF
routers in the network? 
However, I always need to "clear ip route *" in some routers for quicker
response.

Thanks


Best Regards,
mak




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