design issues [7:14454]
i have acase and i want some1 to help me to solve it a company has two sites they want to have dedicated line with 128 kbps on site 1 and to make an ISDN dial backup to the ISP then site 2 is connected to site 1 with dedicated line of 128kbps and they have ISDN line their but they face sometimes problems with their line in site 1 so they need in case of failure of the ddicated liune betwenn their site 1 and the ISP and the failure of site 1 ISDN backup to dial the ISP they want the ISDN line of site 2 to dial to the ISP and will be in this case the gateway of two sites the question now how can i trigger dial on ISDN line in site 2 in case of failure of dedicated then failure of ISDNline of site 1 with the caution that the bri interface always up up spoofing Mohammed Saro Network Engineer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14454&t=14454 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
question about DEFAULT command... [7:14455]
hi all, i have two more cisco routers, and have a question about them. here is our routers and server. eth0: 10.1.1.1e0: 1.1.1.1e0: 1.1.1.2 eth0: 20.1.1.1 -+-- Router A -- Router B -- | | 10.1.1.2 +--- Server A | | Question. how can i set a default routing to bring all forgin IP peacages to the server A (10.1.1.2)? EIGRP routing protocol is used with router A an B. thx adv. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14455&t=14455 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Foundation Exam Opinion [7:14353]
When I wrote for my CCNP I took the Foundation Exam plus the CIT Exam. The Foundation Exam was divided into four sections!? One section for each one of the "normal" single tests and one with mixed questions. You don't get any referens to which section your in, but I thought this was pretty clear just reading the first question. The test is longer and has more questions than one individual test, but on the other hand, it's shorter and has fewer questions than the three tests alltogether. Johan Hjalmarsson ABB Communications AB Malmö, Sweden CCNP, CCDP, MCP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14453&t=14353 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two CPA2503 questions... [7:14445]
I did replace the boot rom for the CPA 2505 and was able to load IOS 12.1 on the box.. ""James Willard"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello, > > I recently convinced my employer to give me a Cisco CPA2503 (the white box > CiscoPro router) whose power supply died. I have two questions. > > First of all, before I check into finding a replacement power supply, I read > on this list a long way back (probably 1999ish) about someone who had made > an outboard 2500 series power supply from a PC power supply. Unfortunately, > I can't get a search of the archives to turn up that post that I remembered. > Does anyone happen to have that link, or perhaps is the original poster > still lurking? > > Secondly, is it true that you can order a replacement boot ROM for the > CPA2500 series and make them able to load standard 2500 series images? If > so, does Cisco charge for these boot ROMs, or are they like the other > routers where you pay for shipping only? > > Thanks, > > James Willard, CCNA > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14452&t=14445 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VoIP Traffic Shaping Config [7:14451]
Hi folks, Hope this newsgroup does not make me lazy!!! hehehehehe I have a problem guys. I have a Cisco 3640 configured with an FXS voice module (2 voice ports). I am contending with a 28.8k link to my head office. I do voice and data on that link. However, i need to restrict my voice calls to one at a time. I have done some QOS on that link. In addition, i want the two voice ports on the FXS VIC to be operational. Is there a command which i can use to disable one voice port automatically when i am using the second port? What i really mean is to have one port disabled as soon as i pick up the handset attached to the other port. You get what i mean? Well the reason behind this is that i don't want my colleagues (who think 28.8k is a heaven)to use more than one handset at a time to call the head office. But i want port 3/1/0 and port 3/1/1 to be active so that any can be used at any time (not simultaenously). Regards!!! Oletu Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14451&t=14451 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Two CPA2503 questions... [7:14445]
fyi see http://www.spc.org.nc/it/TechHead/cisco.html re power supply story -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Willard Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Two CPA2503 questions... [7:14445] Hello, I recently convinced my employer to give me a Cisco CPA2503 (the white box CiscoPro router) whose power supply died. I have two questions. First of all, before I check into finding a replacement power supply, I read on this list a long way back (probably 1999ish) about someone who had made an outboard 2500 series power supply from a PC power supply. Unfortunately, I can't get a search of the archives to turn up that post that I remembered. Does anyone happen to have that link, or perhaps is the original poster still lurking? Secondly, is it true that you can order a replacement boot ROM for the CPA2500 series and make them able to load standard 2500 series images? If so, does Cisco charge for these boot ROMs, or are they like the other routers where you pay for shipping only? Thanks, James Willard, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14450&t=14445 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DHCP SERVERS [7:14444]
fyi see http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/rtrmgmt/ciscoasu/nr/nr50/nru g/11failov.htm#41357 (watch the wrap) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of RAJESH AGNIHOTRI Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DHCP SERVERS [7:1] Greetings , I have a basic doubt about DHCP server. can we have two dhcp server in the same physical network i do how does it work... _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14448&t=1 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2900 trafic [7:14449]
Hi, Is there a way in cisco 2900 series switch to check if the netwrok respose has been poor due to excess trafic. Thanks Uttam [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of umajumdar.vcf] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14449&t=14449 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Security Specialization enq ?? [7:14447]
Hi , I wanted to know what is the difference between the two following PIX Firewall 500 series 1) PIX 515 Failover PIX 515 Failover (Chassis, software, two 10/100 and 2) PIX 515 Restricted Bund PIX 515R Bundle (Chassis, restricted SW, 2 FE port I want to prepare for the Security Specialization track , could anyone guide me what is the hardware/s ware I should go for and how I should pursue my training . I am planning to attend the course for MCNS as well by September . -- Navin Parwal Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14447&t=14447 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Intermittent connectivity loss [7:14416]
Hi Daniel, We had a similar situation few days back. Users connected on One of our switches were complaining of intermittent loss in connectivity. We had a problem with the GBIC port on one of our Catalyst switch. Regds Amit -Original Message- From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Intermittent connectivity loss [7:14416] I understand you to say that there are two 5505s on each floor. Half of the users on each floor connect to each 5505 through a single vlan. Each 5505 connects to a 6509. Has anyone changed the config of any of the switches lately? Any hardware changes? Thinking intermittant hardware failure. Do all the users on a floor who loose connectivity connect to the same 5505? Does the aggregate of all users on all floors who loose connectivity connect to the 6509 through the same blade via their 5505s? Any error messages on the 6509? What's the uptime? What does a show log provide? What is the bandwidth of the links between the 5505s and the 6509? If gig, do you have any spare GBICs? I have heard reports of failing units. Any construction in the building? How about lots of dust in the wiring closets? Any commonality to the electrical feeds for the switches? UPS or not? Can you log error messages to a syslog server? > -Original Message- > From: Don Oxman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Intermittent connectivity loss [7:14416] > > > I must admit this is my first question posted to the group, > though I've been > a lurker for a long time. Here it is: > > We have workstations on 10 different floors (each floor > divided in half, > each half a different subnet), all connected to 5505's (20 in > total). From > the 5505's fiber goes to a 6509, then ultimately to the WAN > via ATM. The > servers all plug into the 6509. So far, so good. > > For the past 3 days we have had workstations (not all, but > about 50%)on > every floor lose connectivity to the network, whereby all of > our NT and > NetWare servers are unavailable and web browsing is gone. > This has happened > a total of 6 times, and there doesn't appear to be a pattern > to the time or > network utilization. Most times the users have to reboot, > though sometimes > they can reconnect without a reboot. > > Can anyone help steer me in the right direction? Our WAN > guys can't help, > and I have a feeling that it's going to be up to me to figure > this one out. > > Thanks a lot. > > --Don > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14446&t=14416 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DHCP SERVERS [7:14444]
Greetings , I have a basic doubt about DHCP server. can we have two dhcp server in the same physical network i do how does it work... _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1&t=1 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Two CPA2503 questions... [7:14445]
Hello, I recently convinced my employer to give me a Cisco CPA2503 (the white box CiscoPro router) whose power supply died. I have two questions. First of all, before I check into finding a replacement power supply, I read on this list a long way back (probably 1999ish) about someone who had made an outboard 2500 series power supply from a PC power supply. Unfortunately, I can't get a search of the archives to turn up that post that I remembered. Does anyone happen to have that link, or perhaps is the original poster still lurking? Secondly, is it true that you can order a replacement boot ROM for the CPA2500 series and make them able to load standard 2500 series images? If so, does Cisco charge for these boot ROMs, or are they like the other routers where you pay for shipping only? Thanks, James Willard, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14445&t=14445 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 32MB flash for 2620, 2621 ? True or false? [7:14357]
what is the purpose for 32 meg flash in 2600 ? The largest IOS i have seen fits easily on 16. I mean the enterprise + with FW et al feature set is only 12 Meg, plenty of space left. the only reason that comes to mind is so store multiple IOS images in flash, which seems pointless anyway because if the flash chip has problems you loose both of them anyway seeing they are on one chip, not like the 2500 and 3600 series. my 5c worth > -Original Message- > From: Mark Odette II [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2001 1:58 pm > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: 32MB flash for 2620, 2621 ? True or false? [7:14357] > > You can get 32MB chips for the 2600's > > See the following > Specifications > Hardware Table 18-86: Technical Specifications for Cisco 2600 Series > Processor = > > Motorola MPC860 80 MHz RISC (Cisco 265x); 50 MHz RISC (Cisco 262x); 40 MHz > RISC (Cisco 261x) > > DRAM Memory = > > Two DIMM slots supporting, 32 to 64MB (Cisco 261x and Cisco 262x, uses > DRAM); 32 to 128MB (Cisco 265x only, uses SDRAM) > > Flash Memory = > > One SIMM slot supporting, 8 to 16MB (Cisco 261x); 8 to 32MB (Cisco 262x1 > and > Cisco 265x ) > > - Mark Odette II > > - Original Message - > From: "anyong" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:44 AM > Subject: 32MB flash for 2620, 2621 ? True or false? [7:14357] > > > > Hi, > > > > Just take a look at ebay, and a seller is selling 32MB flash for 2620 > and > > 2621. Did anyone try this before? Cisco mentioned 16MB is the Maximum! > > If it does, I can run ISP IOS pack : ) > > Anyone know about this? > > Thanks. > > > > anyong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14439&t=14357 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Doc3 [7:14443]
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Doc3 [7:14442]
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RE: GRE and routing protocols [7:14432]
post your configs. in the abstract what is happening is that the tunnel endpoints are referencing an address that can only be known via the dynamic routing protocol. works fine with statics because the static destination is always "there" if you do a debug ip routing you will see the reports of what exactly is happening. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GRE and routing protocols [7:14432] I've configured a point-to-point GRE tunnel between two routers. Works fine with static routes, however, once I turn on RIP I get the following in about 30 seconds. %TUN-5-RECURDOWN: Tunnel0 temporarily disabled due to recursive routing 1d01h: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Tunnel0, changed state to down I've read about the recursive routing problem with IP in IP, can someone explain exactly why this is happening? Also, what is the solution. thanks, Mike Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14440&t=14432 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Frame-Relay Switch intf-type DCE/DTE [7:14434]
common misunderstanding. clock rate should be configured on the router where the DCE end of the cable resides. this can be different than the port that is the frame relay interface-type DCE a frame switch is a DCE device with respect to a router. It can be a DTE type with regard to another frame switch. different animals, osi layers, logical versus physical connections, whatever. HTH Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Sohn Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Frame-Relay Switch intf-type DCE/DTE [7:14434] I have a hub and spoke combination going without any problems. But the only weird thing happening is that on my Frame-Relay switch (2522), I have to set the "frame-relay intf-type" to DCE for all the serial interfaces I'm using, otherwise the layer 2 connections won't come up on the hub and spoke routers. Should this be happening? I have 3 DTE ends and 1 DCE end of cables plugging into my switch. I thought if I had the DTE side of the cable plugged into my S0 of my frame relay switch, then on the interface configuration mode for "S0", I would specify the intf-type to be DTE. And vice versa if the DCE side of the cable is plugged into my switch. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14441&t=14434 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 32MB flash for 2620, 2621 ? True or false? [7:14357]
16MB is the maximum flash for a 2620 or 2621. If you have a 2650 or 2651, the maximum is 32MB. John >>> "anyong" 7/31/01 8:44:08 AM >>> Hi, Just take a look at ebay, and a seller is selling 32MB flash for 2620 and 2621. Did anyone try this before? Cisco mentioned 16MB is the Maximum! If it does, I can run ISP IOS pack : ) Anyone know about this? Thanks. anyong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14370&t=14357 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problema de groupstudy.com [7:14438]
* In a message originally to All, Alejandro Pelaez said: > Hola All! > Hubo un problema entre esta area, y otra red, pido disculpas por las > molestias. > Alejandro > --- GoldED+/W32 snapshot-2001.02.24 > * Origin: Ratas & Angeles (13:5401/1) Que paso? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14438&t=14438 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 32MB flash for 2620, 2621 ? True or false? [7:14357]
You can get 32MB chips for the 2600's See the following Specifications Hardware Table 18-86: Technical Specifications for Cisco 2600 Series Processor = Motorola MPC860 80 MHz RISC (Cisco 265x); 50 MHz RISC (Cisco 262x); 40 MHz RISC (Cisco 261x) DRAM Memory = Two DIMM slots supporting, 32 to 64MB (Cisco 261x and Cisco 262x, uses DRAM); 32 to 128MB (Cisco 265x only, uses SDRAM) Flash Memory = One SIMM slot supporting, 8 to 16MB (Cisco 261x); 8 to 32MB (Cisco 262x1 and Cisco 265x ) - Mark Odette II - Original Message - From: "anyong" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: 32MB flash for 2620, 2621 ? True or false? [7:14357] > Hi, > > Just take a look at ebay, and a seller is selling 32MB flash for 2620 and > 2621. Did anyone try this before? Cisco mentioned 16MB is the Maximum! > If it does, I can run ISP IOS pack : ) > Anyone know about this? > Thanks. > > anyong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14372&t=14357 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 32MB flash for 2620, 2621 ? True or false? [7:14357]
Thanks everybody! Mark and Glenn specially !! anyong ""anyong"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi, > > Just take a look at ebay, and a seller is selling 32MB flash for 2620 and > 2621. Did anyone try this before? Cisco mentioned 16MB is the Maximum! > If it does, I can run ISP IOS pack : ) > Anyone know about this? > Thanks. > > anyong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14373&t=14357 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RAM [7:14404]
Anyone know if I can use a 32MB SIMM for a Catalyst supervisor II engine (WS-X5506) that isnt a cisco part. Ive had the worst time looking for this RAM. I dont see any on ebay and I have actually found it elsewhere for about $350-just too much. Im hoping I can use some other typical SIMM. Thanks for any help. - Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14404&t=14404 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: GRE and routing protocols [7:14432]
fyi see http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios102/em/48049.htm #xtocid200671 (watch the wrap) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Baker, Jason Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: GRE and routing protocols [7:14432] hi mike, if you posted some configs i could plug it into lab and check it out. Jason > -Original Message- > From: Mike [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2001 12:03 pm > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: GRE and routing protocols [7:14432] > > I've configured a point-to-point GRE tunnel between two routers. Works > fine > with static routes, however, once I turn on RIP I get the following in > about > 30 seconds. > > %TUN-5-RECURDOWN: Tunnel0 temporarily disabled due to recursive routing > 1d01h: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Tunnel0, changed > state to > down > > I've read about the recursive routing problem with IP in IP, can someone > explain exactly why this is happening? Also, what is the solution. > > thanks, > Mike Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14437&t=14432 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: CCIE Written [7:14429]
[demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] Can anyone say "stampede" ? Sincerely, Future CCIE #50,000 (est Jan 2002) Hey, Has anyone else heard the rumor that the CCIE written will not be required for CCNP's to schedule a lab date after September 1st? Christopher Supino CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNA5, ASE Senior System Engineer This email was sent through the free email service at http://www.anonymous.to/ To report misuse of this service, please contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14436&t=14429 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: GRE and routing protocols [7:14432]
hi mike, if you posted some configs i could plug it into lab and check it out. Jason > -Original Message- > From: Mike [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2001 12:03 pm > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: GRE and routing protocols [7:14432] > > I've configured a point-to-point GRE tunnel between two routers. Works > fine > with static routes, however, once I turn on RIP I get the following in > about > 30 seconds. > > %TUN-5-RECURDOWN: Tunnel0 temporarily disabled due to recursive routing > 1d01h: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Tunnel0, changed > state to > down > > I've read about the recursive routing problem with IP in IP, can someone > explain exactly why this is happening? Also, what is the solution. > > thanks, > Mike Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14435&t=14432 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE vLab Assessor -- vLab CCIE ReadyNow! [7:14430]
Hear, hear. I agree. Why should we pay to be Beta testers? Cisco's certifacation program is beggining to look eerily like Microsoft's. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David L. Blair Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE vLab Assessor -- vLab CCIE ReadyNow! [7:14430] I have two issues with your e-mail. First, your company wants ME to pay $250.00 to beta test your product. I think not!!! I am not saying it has to be free, but $250.00 is WAY to MUCH!!! Maybe $50.00 to $75.00. Basically, you expect me to provide you with VALUABLE feedback on your product and you want to charge me "an arm and a leg" for providing with VALUABLE beta testing feedback. I normally charge customers for the service you expect ME to pay for. Second, the e-mail did not have an e-mail address in the To: field. I normally regard e-mails like this as SPAM e-mail. I suggest you use a did way to hide receipants of future e-mails from your company. My $0.02 worth "Through Complexity there is Simplicity, Through Simplicity there is Complexity" David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 3Wizard - Original Message - From: "Glinke, Julie" Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:48 PM Subject: CCIE vLab Assessor -- vLab CCIE ReadyNow! Greetings, Thank you for your interest CCIE vLab. Assessor Pilot Program -- vLab. CCIE ReadyNow! The Pilot Program includes: * Directions on how to use the vLab. Assessor exercises * Two practice vLab. Assessor exercises * One CCIE vLab. Assessor exercise * One Survey to provide us with your feedback. The pilot will be launched by September 1st and all participants will be expected to complete the program by September 15th. If you are interested in participating please call or e-mail either of the contacts below: Cher Kephart Nikki Snyder 888-638-7275 888-638-7285 (International) +1 + 240-568-7275 (International) +1 + 240-568-7285 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The fee for the Pilot Program is a one-time fee of $250.00 to be paid in full by credit card. Julie Glinke Program Manager Mentor Technologies Group, Inc. (240)568-6693 Office (443)994-9253 Cell Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14433&t=14430 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Frame-Relay Switch intf-type DCE/DTE [7:14434]
I have a hub and spoke combination going without any problems. But the only weird thing happening is that on my Frame-Relay switch (2522), I have to set the "frame-relay intf-type" to DCE for all the serial interfaces I'm using, otherwise the layer 2 connections won't come up on the hub and spoke routers. Should this be happening? I have 3 DTE ends and 1 DCE end of cables plugging into my switch. I thought if I had the DTE side of the cable plugged into my S0 of my frame relay switch, then on the interface configuration mode for "S0", I would specify the intf-type to be DTE. And vice versa if the DCE side of the cable is plugged into my switch. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14434&t=14434 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GRE and routing protocols [7:14432]
I've configured a point-to-point GRE tunnel between two routers. Works fine with static routes, however, once I turn on RIP I get the following in about 30 seconds. %TUN-5-RECURDOWN: Tunnel0 temporarily disabled due to recursive routing 1d01h: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Tunnel0, changed state to down I've read about the recursive routing problem with IP in IP, can someone explain exactly why this is happening? Also, what is the solution. thanks, Mike Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14432&t=14432 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE [7:14417]
Jason is ABSOLUTELY correct! I went into the BIOS specifically the CMOS setup and just under the video card option, there is a halt option. I set it to "halt on: no errors". After that, I unplugged both the keyboard and mouse on my x86 clone. Guess what, the Unix box boot up just fine. On a side note, how did Jason know how to do this? Man, he is good. >From: "Baker, Jason" >To: Sean Young , [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE [7:14417] >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:29:18 +1000 > >nothing to do with the operating system on intel boxes. > >If you set your BIOS to stop on all errors if no keyboard is plugged in your >box will not boot whether it is NT or linux. > >If you set BIOS to ignore these errors the system will boot. > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Sean Young [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2001 10:38 am > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE > > [7:14417] > > > > I run RedHat 7.1 with kernel 2.4.7 on a Dell Optiplex 700 MHz with no > > keyboard and mouse. Didn't have to do anything unusual like disabling it > > in the BIOS. By the way, I control the Unix/Linux box via Terminal > > server. > > > > >From: "Jonathan Hays" >Reply-To: "Jonathan Hays" >To: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and > > Passed CCIE [7:14417] >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:51:31 -0400 > >Not > > always possible. > >"Roberts, Timothy" wrote: > > > Disable it in the > > bios. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jonathan Hays > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:20 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home > > Use? and Passed CCIE written > > [7:14413] > > > > No keyboard? It > > depends. > > > > While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, > > etc.) will run > > "headless", most > > Intel x86 boxes I have > > encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the > > machine > > > > won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this > > I > > don't know > > about? > > --- > > Jonathan > > > > Symon Thurlow > > wrote: > > > > > I agree with Carroll, I have been predominantly MS and > > Novell, but have > > > started to learn Linux. It isn't hard if you have > > a good grounding in > > > Networking/IP/Network OS's. It is just a matter > > of finding/learning the > > > commands. > > > > > > Another beauty of a > > *nix box; you only need two cables for it, power and > > > network. > > Forget screen, keyboard, mouse... > > > > > > Symon > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > Carroll Kong > > > Sent: > > 31 July 2001 00:32 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: > > Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today > > > [7:14288] > > > > > > > > At 06:40 PM 7/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) > > wrote: > > > >Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was > > not as > > > >difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if > > that's > > > >possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long > > journey to > > > >complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home > > lab and I was > > > >wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out > > there? I know > > > >cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run > > Unix here at home > > > >(win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone > > could help. Thanks > > > >for your time! > > > > > > > >Tim > > > > > > > > Congratulations on passing the CCIE Written! > > > > > > I guess you > > might be out of luck. Here are some of your options > > > > > > a) > > continue searching for a free version of TACACS+ for Windows. > > > b) > > Buy Cisco Secure ACS. > > > c) Get an old machine and install Linux, > > Solaris x86, FreeBSD, NetBSD, >or > > > OpenBSD and grab tacacs+ from > > > > > http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/ > > > d) Port the code yourself from > > Unix to Windows. > > > > > > Obviously there is a certain time host > > inherent to the last three > > > options. You should certainly weigh out > > the costs, as ALL of the options > > > have an inherent cost to it, even > > a). Personally, I think learning Unix > > is > > > not so bad (maybe I am > > biased after all of these years) and may only take > > > perhaps a week > > of your time (if you are a fast learner, one day) if you > > > want to > > just get TACACS+ on it. You can consider multi-booting, but then > > > > > you will have to take out more time to make sure you do not fry your > > > > > machine. I hope you do know a lot about partitioning on x86 > > > > > hardware. :) It honestly is not that bad, win2k's bootloader is quite > > > > > friendly with booting the unices. On the side, I do not think TACACS+ > > is > > a > > > requirement for the lab. Not that it is a good reason to > > not learn > > > TACACS+. Ev
Re: CCIE vLab Assessor -- vLab CCIE ReadyNow! [7:14430]
I have two issues with your e-mail. First, your company wants ME to pay $250.00 to beta test your product. I think not!!! I am not saying it has to be free, but $250.00 is WAY to MUCH!!! Maybe $50.00 to $75.00. Basically, you expect me to provide you with VALUABLE feedback on your product and you want to charge me "an arm and a leg" for providing with VALUABLE beta testing feedback. I normally charge customers for the service you expect ME to pay for. Second, the e-mail did not have an e-mail address in the To: field. I normally regard e-mails like this as SPAM e-mail. I suggest you use a did way to hide receipants of future e-mails from your company. My $0.02 worth "Through Complexity there is Simplicity, Through Simplicity there is Complexity" David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 3Wizard - Original Message - From: "Glinke, Julie" Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:48 PM Subject: CCIE vLab Assessor -- vLab CCIE ReadyNow! Greetings, Thank you for your interest CCIE vLab. Assessor Pilot Program -- vLab. CCIE ReadyNow! The Pilot Program includes: * Directions on how to use the vLab. Assessor exercises * Two practice vLab. Assessor exercises * One CCIE vLab. Assessor exercise * One Survey to provide us with your feedback. The pilot will be launched by September 1st and all participants will be expected to complete the program by September 15th. If you are interested in participating please call or e-mail either of the contacts below: Cher Kephart Nikki Snyder 888-638-7275 888-638-7285 (International) +1 + 240-568-7275 (International) +1 + 240-568-7285 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The fee for the Pilot Program is a one-time fee of $250.00 to be paid in full by credit card. Julie Glinke Program Manager Mentor Technologies Group, Inc. (240)568-6693 Office (443)994-9253 Cell Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14430&t=14430 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Written [7:14429]
Hey, Has anyone else heard the rumor that the CCIE written will not be required for CCNP's to schedule a lab date after September 1st? Christopher Supino CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNA5, ASE Senior System Engineer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14429&t=14429 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14428]
At 07:20 PM 7/31/01 -0400, Jonathan Hays wrote: >No keyboard? It depends. > >While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, etc.) will run >"headless", most >Intel x86 boxes I have encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the >machine >won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this I >don't know >about? >--- >Jonathan Ah, good point. Now why would it not care which OS? The bios. Crapola bios which give you very little flexibility (enter most commercial packaged PCs with their crap bios) have this problem. If you get a good Asus Motherboard (actually a LOT of vendors give you this flexibility), their bios have this option called Halt On Error: All Error Change it to "No Errors" Your PC will easy POST without the need for a keyboard after this change. For FreeBSD, you probably want to modify the kernel to "always force on" the keyboard. You can also recompile the kernel to enable a serial console so it works like the bad-boy Unix Workstations. (need a null serial modem cable and you are ready to rock and console :) ) Reason why you want FreeBSD to "always force on" the keyboard. If you do not plug in the keyboard, let the box boot, and then plug the keyboard back in, you cannot type anything in. With "always force on", it will work afterwards. Of course, this is only the case if you really messed up the box (kernel panic, ip misconfiguration, firewall rules that kick you off) and your boss forgot to buy that access console server. Linux also has a serial console capability IIRC. If anyone here learns basic FreeBSD on their own and needs help for doing some of these more advanced features, I will easily lend a hand. -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14428&t=14428 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Intermittent connectivity loss [7:14416]
I understand you to say that there are two 5505s on each floor. Half of the users on each floor connect to each 5505 through a single vlan. Each 5505 connects to a 6509. Has anyone changed the config of any of the switches lately? Any hardware changes? Thinking intermittant hardware failure. Do all the users on a floor who loose connectivity connect to the same 5505? Does the aggregate of all users on all floors who loose connectivity connect to the 6509 through the same blade via their 5505s? Any error messages on the 6509? What's the uptime? What does a show log provide? What is the bandwidth of the links between the 5505s and the 6509? If gig, do you have any spare GBICs? I have heard reports of failing units. Any construction in the building? How about lots of dust in the wiring closets? Any commonality to the electrical feeds for the switches? UPS or not? Can you log error messages to a syslog server? > -Original Message- > From: Don Oxman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Intermittent connectivity loss [7:14416] > > > I must admit this is my first question posted to the group, > though I've been > a lurker for a long time. Here it is: > > We have workstations on 10 different floors (each floor > divided in half, > each half a different subnet), all connected to 5505's (20 in > total). From > the 5505's fiber goes to a 6509, then ultimately to the WAN > via ATM. The > servers all plug into the 6509. So far, so good. > > For the past 3 days we have had workstations (not all, but > about 50%)on > every floor lose connectivity to the network, whereby all of > our NT and > NetWare servers are unavailable and web browsing is gone. > This has happened > a total of 6 times, and there doesn't appear to be a pattern > to the time or > network utilization. Most times the users have to reboot, > though sometimes > they can reconnect without a reboot. > > Can anyone help steer me in the right direction? Our WAN > guys can't help, > and I have a feeling that it's going to be up to me to figure > this one out. > > Thanks a lot. > > --Don > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14426&t=14416 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE [7:14417]
Great! Unfortunately my Linux box has an Intel AL440LX motherboard and I can't find any place in the BIOS to disable the keyboard (or "halt on error, except keyboard" which is another popular BIOS option). Disabling the keyboard is simply not possible on EVERY x86 clone. Sean Young wrote: > I run RedHat 7.1 with kernel 2.4.7 on a Dell Optiplex 700 MHz with no > keyboard and mouse. Didn't have to do anything unusual like disabling it > in the BIOS. By the way, I control the Unix/Linux box via Terminal > server. > > >From: "Jonathan Hays" >Reply-To: "Jonathan Hays" >To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and > Passed CCIE [7:14417] >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:51:31 -0400 > >Not > always possible. > >"Roberts, Timothy" wrote: > > > Disable it in the > bios. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jonathan Hays > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:20 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home > Use? and Passed CCIE written > > [7:14413] > > > > No keyboard? It > depends. > > > > While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, > etc.) will run > > "headless", most > > Intel x86 boxes I have > encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the > > machine > > > won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this > I > > don't know > > about? > > --- > > Jonathan > > > > Symon Thurlow > wrote: > > > > > I agree with Carroll, I have been predominantly MS and > Novell, but have > > > started to learn Linux. It isn't hard if you have > a good grounding in > > > Networking/IP/Network OS's. It is just a matter > of finding/learning the > > > commands. > > > > > > Another beauty of a > *nix box; you only need two cables for it, power and > > > network. > Forget screen, keyboard, mouse... > > > > > > Symon > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > Carroll Kong > > > Sent: > 31 July 2001 00:32 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: > Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today > > > [7:14288] > > > > > > > At 06:40 PM 7/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) > wrote: > > > >Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was > not as > > > >difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if > that's > > > >possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long > journey to > > > >complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home > lab and I was > > > >wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out > there? I know > > > >cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run > Unix here at home > > > >(win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone > could help. Thanks > > > >for your time! > > > > > > > >Tim > > > > > > > Congratulations on passing the CCIE Written! > > > > > > I guess you > might be out of luck. Here are some of your options > > > > > > a) > continue searching for a free version of TACACS+ for Windows. > > > b) > Buy Cisco Secure ACS. > > > c) Get an old machine and install Linux, > Solaris x86, FreeBSD, NetBSD, >or > > > OpenBSD and grab tacacs+ from > > > > http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/ > > > d) Port the code yourself from > Unix to Windows. > > > > > > Obviously there is a certain time host > inherent to the last three > > > options. You should certainly weigh out > the costs, as ALL of the options > > > have an inherent cost to it, even > a). Personally, I think learning Unix > > is > > > not so bad (maybe I am > biased after all of these years) and may only take > > > perhaps a week > of your time (if you are a fast learner, one day) if you > > > want to > just get TACACS+ on it. You can consider multi-booting, but then > > > > you will have to take out more time to make sure you do not fry your > > > > machine. I hope you do know a lot about partitioning on x86 > > > > hardware. :) It honestly is not that bad, win2k's bootloader is quite > > > > friendly with booting the unices. On the side, I do not think TACACS+ > is > > a > > > requirement for the lab. Not that it is a good reason to > not learn > > > TACACS+. Every CCIE should learn that eventually, on at > least one > > platform. > > > > > > If you install FreeBSD, you may run > into issues compiling the code, I > > > patched it so it can work on it. > (not as hard as it sounds, only a small > > > line change). If you choose > that route, I can help you patch the code so > > > it will compile on > FreeBSD. Good luck! > > > > > > -Carroll Kong >-- >Jonathan Hays > > > > > misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14427&t=14417 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.
RE: PEC CIMs [7:14291]
On Dec 20, 4:44pm, "Greg Macaulay" wrote: } } I opened a case with the PECsupport folks and they told me that there are } evidently an "old" "outdated version" of the CIMs and a "new" version. The } old version of (all) the CIMs is what is causing problems. So go to edit } your progress and delete all the CIMs you signed up for. Then on the PEC } page -- click on SEARCH and put in CIM. You should get a page with the 5 } CIMs which you can sign up for today. I tried this and it didn't work. Here is a sample of what I've been seeing: -- Not Found The requested URL /cmn/pec/cim/ipr-dv_v2r4/content/module1/quizData.js was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/1.3.9 Server at cisco-elearning-sjdc.digisle.net Port 80 --- This problem is sprinkled throughout all five CIMs. Given that Leigh-Ann said she doesn't have problems, and the "sjdc" (San Jose?) in the server name, I suspect that there may be mirrors and Cisco Distributed Director (or something similar) is in use. Anyways, PEC support has finally acknowledged the problem and said they are looking into it. } As far as what happens at midnight tomorrow -- whether Cinderella's carriage } turns into a pumkin or not, etc. I don't know the answer. I (hope) and } suspect that if you are already signed up for the CIM, then it will still be } available -- but I don't know that for sure! PEC support said they would try to get me an extension. }-- End of excerpt from "Greg Macaulay" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14425&t=14291 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LMI question [7:14206]
With Frame Relay, even though you can configure sub interfaces to help with routing protocol issues and bandwidth allotment, there is still only one physical connection between your router and your frame provider. The LMI is configured only for that physical connection, not sub-interfaces. Mike W. "Wright, Jeremy" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I am trying to configure a specific sub-interface lmi type as ansi and I am > not finding it on the sub-interface but on the physical interface itself. Is > there something im missing? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14424&t=14206 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE [7:14417]
nothing to do with the operating system on intel boxes. If you set your BIOS to stop on all errors if no keyboard is plugged in your box will not boot whether it is NT or linux. If you set BIOS to ignore these errors the system will boot. > -Original Message- > From: Sean Young [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2001 10:38 am > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE > [7:14417] > > I run RedHat 7.1 with kernel 2.4.7 on a Dell Optiplex 700 MHz with no > keyboard and mouse. Didn't have to do anything unusual like disabling it > in the BIOS. By the way, I control the Unix/Linux box via Terminal > server. > > >From: "Jonathan Hays" >Reply-To: "Jonathan Hays" >To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and > Passed CCIE [7:14417] >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:51:31 -0400 > >Not > always possible. > >"Roberts, Timothy" wrote: > > > Disable it in the > bios. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jonathan Hays > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:20 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home > Use? and Passed CCIE written > > [7:14413] > > > > No keyboard? It > depends. > > > > While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, > etc.) will run > > "headless", most > > Intel x86 boxes I have > encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the > > machine > > > won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this > I > > don't know > > about? > > --- > > Jonathan > > > > Symon Thurlow > wrote: > > > > > I agree with Carroll, I have been predominantly MS and > Novell, but have > > > started to learn Linux. It isn't hard if you have > a good grounding in > > > Networking/IP/Network OS's. It is just a matter > of finding/learning the > > > commands. > > > > > > Another beauty of a > *nix box; you only need two cables for it, power and > > > network. > Forget screen, keyboard, mouse... > > > > > > Symon > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > Carroll Kong > > > Sent: > 31 July 2001 00:32 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: > Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today > > > [7:14288] > > > > > > > At 06:40 PM 7/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) > wrote: > > > >Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was > not as > > > >difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if > that's > > > >possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long > journey to > > > >complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home > lab and I was > > > >wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out > there? I know > > > >cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run > Unix here at home > > > >(win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone > could help. Thanks > > > >for your time! > > > > > > > >Tim > > > > > > > Congratulations on passing the CCIE Written! > > > > > > I guess you > might be out of luck. Here are some of your options > > > > > > a) > continue searching for a free version of TACACS+ for Windows. > > > b) > Buy Cisco Secure ACS. > > > c) Get an old machine and install Linux, > Solaris x86, FreeBSD, NetBSD, >or > > > OpenBSD and grab tacacs+ from > > > > http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/ > > > d) Port the code yourself from > Unix to Windows. > > > > > > Obviously there is a certain time host > inherent to the last three > > > options. You should certainly weigh out > the costs, as ALL of the options > > > have an inherent cost to it, even > a). Personally, I think learning Unix > > is > > > not so bad (maybe I am > biased after all of these years) and may only take > > > perhaps a week > of your time (if you are a fast learner, one day) if you > > > want to > just get TACACS+ on it. You can consider multi-booting, but then > > > > you will have to take out more time to make sure you do not fry your > > > > machine. I hope you do know a lot about partitioning on x86 > > > > hardware. :) It honestly is not that bad, win2k's bootloader is quite > > > > friendly with booting the unices. On the side, I do not think TACACS+ > is > > a > > > requirement for the lab. Not that it is a good reason to > not learn > > > TACACS+. Every CCIE should learn that eventually, on at > least one > > platform. > > > > > > If you install FreeBSD, you may run > into issues compiling the code, I > > > patched it so it can work on it. > (not as hard as it sounds, only a small > > > line change). If you choose > that route, I can help you patch the code so > > > it will compile on > FreeBSD. Good luck! > > > > > > -Carroll Kong >-- >Jonathan Hays > > > > > misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://ww
Re: Doubt... [7:14233]
I'm totally speculating here Please let me wrong if this doesn't jive... it seems to me that the number of packets in the queue (outgoing) wouldn't be anymore for 50% or 99% until there are more packets attempting to go over the wire than is allowed (i.e. there won't be any use for the queue except in passing as the packets are sent out as fast as they are coming to the interface to be sent out)... I read Jenny's post and I agree with her that utilization is = packets/some amount of time..and that things tend to get bursty, etc. so if depends on if you're looking at a 1 sec avg. or a 1 minute avg. utilization as to whether a ping at any given moment would actually go through as fast as any other time. Mike W. "Priscilla Oppenheimer" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The number of packets in a queue on a packet-switching device increases > exponentially as utilization on the output port increases. > > Queue depth = utilization/(1 - utilization) > > So, do the math. If utilization is 90%, there will be more packets in the > queue than if utilization if 50%. > > That's how I learned it, but it's probably more complex than this > > Comments, anyone else? > > Thanks > > Priscilla > > At 10:41 AM 7/30/01, anil.philip wrote: > > >Dear Priscilla, > > > >I have a small doubt. I think you are the best person to ask about. May be > >you think this as a stupid question. but this is making me crazy. > > > >If there is a serial link b/w two sites, at what point of % utilisation > >the response start degrading??? > > > >Ideally if I have a T1 link, i shud get the same ping response time > >till the load on that link is 100%??? > > > >When I say a T1, it is 1.55 M packets /s. So if the link is utilised for > >99% (say 1.50Mb..) still I have > >0.05 Mb left on that link and I shud be able to get a ping (32byte) > >response time, equivalent to 0% utilisation. Why the response time start > >degrading at some point of % utilisation?? > >Let us assume there is no packet drop, memmory prob, enough buffer space > >etc > > > >Request to do a REPLY ALL this email. > > > > > >Regds, > >Anil Philip > >AT&T Solutions. > >anil.philip > >e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14422&t=14233 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]
This is possible with 2 sups in the same chassis, however, if you have two separate chassis with their own Sups, then I don't think it's possible to have one act as a "mirror" for the other. You could configure the RSMs (MSFC's, whatever) with HSRP, but that wouldn't do what you said you wanted. Even with HSRP, the "other" interfaces on each RSM would need to be configured with their own IPs, etc, thus not satisfying your requirement to have "a second switch with a copy of the primary's configuration". Unless you have the end devices connected to both switches, your screwed anyway if a sup dies (unless you have a redundant sup installed in which case you're not utilizing the "other" switch). I do not believe that what you're looking for is possible with to completely separate switches like that. Mike W. "Jason Kinney" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I want to protect from a total failure in the switch such as sup, loss of > power (if UPS and redundant PS is not present), etc. > > I am not trying to failover an interface (spanning tree) > > I want to have a second switch with a copy of the primary's configuration > and take over automatically once the primary fails. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Patrick Ramsey > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 8:09 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164] > > > Maybe I am confused > > If yo uwant redundant switches, you would implement spanning tree... This is > at layer two...not three, where routing takes place. > > Now if you mean using it on say a cat 6509 with a routing module, then yes > you can implement it. But it would still be at layer three and not two. > You would not create redundant switches. Again, this is where spanning tree > comes into play. > > -Patrick > > >>> "Spencer Plantier" 07/30/01 10:39AM >>> > yes you can > > --- Jason Kinney wrote: > > Can you use HSRP to backup a switch as you would a > > router? > > > > Jason Kinney > > 925-961-0223 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = > Spencer Plantier > Internet Solutions Engineer > Voice 919-949-9993 > Cell 919-696-8848 > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14421&t=14164 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE [7:14417]
I run RedHat 7.1 with kernel 2.4.7 on a Dell Optiplex 700 MHz with no keyboard and mouse. Didn't have to do anything unusual like disabling it in the BIOS. By the way, I control the Unix/Linux box via Terminal server. >From: "Jonathan Hays" >Reply-To: "Jonathan Hays" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE [7:14417] >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:51:31 -0400 > >Not always possible. > >"Roberts, Timothy" wrote: > > > Disable it in the bios. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jonathan Hays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:20 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written > > [7:14413] > > > > No keyboard? It depends. > > > > While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, etc.) will run > > "headless", most > > Intel x86 boxes I have encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the > > machine > > won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this I > > don't know > > about? > > --- > > Jonathan > > > > Symon Thurlow wrote: > > > > > I agree with Carroll, I have been predominantly MS and Novell, but have > > > started to learn Linux. It isn't hard if you have a good grounding in > > > Networking/IP/Network OS's. It is just a matter of finding/learning the > > > commands. > > > > > > Another beauty of a *nix box; you only need two cables for it, power and > > > network. Forget screen, keyboard, mouse... > > > > > > Symon > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > Carroll Kong > > > Sent: 31 July 2001 00:32 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today > > > [7:14288] > > > > > > At 06:40 PM 7/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) wrote: > > > >Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was not as > > > >difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if that's > > > >possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long journey to > > > >complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home lab and I was > > > >wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out there? I know > > > >cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run Unix here at home > > > >(win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone could help. Thanks > > > >for your time! > > > > > > > >Tim > > > > > > Congratulations on passing the CCIE Written! > > > > > > I guess you might be out of luck. Here are some of your options > > > > > > a) continue searching for a free version of TACACS+ for Windows. > > > b) Buy Cisco Secure ACS. > > > c) Get an old machine and install Linux, Solaris x86, FreeBSD, NetBSD, >or > > > OpenBSD and grab tacacs+ from > > > http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/ > > > d) Port the code yourself from Unix to Windows. > > > > > > Obviously there is a certain time host inherent to the last three > > > options. You should certainly weigh out the costs, as ALL of the options > > > have an inherent cost to it, even a). Personally, I think learning Unix > > is > > > not so bad (maybe I am biased after all of these years) and may only take > > > perhaps a week of your time (if you are a fast learner, one day) if you > > > want to just get TACACS+ on it. You can consider multi-booting, but then > > > you will have to take out more time to make sure you do not fry your > > > machine. I hope you do know a lot about partitioning on x86 > > > hardware. :) It honestly is not that bad, win2k's bootloader is quite > > > friendly with booting the unices. On the side, I do not think TACACS+ is > > a > > > requirement for the lab. Not that it is a good reason to not learn > > > TACACS+. Every CCIE should learn that eventually, on at least one > > platform. > > > > > > If you install FreeBSD, you may run into issues compiling the code, I > > > patched it so it can work on it. (not as hard as it sounds, only a small > > > line change). If you choose that route, I can help you patch the code so > > > it will compile on FreeBSD. Good luck! > > > > > > -Carroll Kong >-- >Jonathan Hays > > > > misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14420&t=14417 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intermittent connectivity loss [7:14416]
> For the past 3 days we have had workstations (not all, but about 50%)on > every floor lose connectivity to the network, whereby all of our NT and > NetWare servers are unavailable and web browsing is gone. This has happened > a total of 6 times, and there doesn't appear to be a pattern to the time or > network utilization. Most times the users have to reboot, though sometimes > they can reconnect without a reboot. > > Can anyone help steer me in the right direction? Our WAN guys can't help, > and I have a feeling that it's going to be up to me to figure this one out. > > Thanks a lot. > > --Don You will need to do troubleshooting at two levels here(Network and Datalink. When these users loose connectivity, what is the furthest that they can reach (traceroute out to the NET, see how far they got, from the workstation). You can also do some datalink layer troubleshooting by having a console logging one of the 5505's for example. This could be spanning tree pruning. Has any new equipment been added, any new ports turned up in the past 3 days ? Can the users ping one another, can they ping the switch. Can you reach the switch? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14419&t=14416 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
>Sounds like something from the CID test. ;-) > >Seriously, remember that you are picking the BEST answer. All answers but B >are clearly made up. Remember that the author has to come up with 4 or 5 >feasible wrong answers. This is the hardest part of writing an exam. As an >exam-taker, you can sometimes see this process at work and easily recognize >which answers are the made-up wrong ones, as we can with this example. I didn't write it...I think I know who did, but I'm not certain -- I don't pick the challenge questions. If it's the author I think, he's very well qualified but not a regular on this list. As Priscilla points out, writing good questions is not simple. The CertZone questions have a slightly different slant than the CCIE written exam, as many people have pointed out that they sometimes seem harder than the actual exam. Our questions are meant to be part of an overall CCIE preparation experience, not just for the written but for the lab as well, and to be used along with the practice scenarios and the white papers. In my experience, the hardest part of writing good CertZone questions is writing the explanation, which is meant to teach. The actual CCIE written questions don't have the requirement to coordinate with an explanation. > >As far as B being absolutely right, I'm thinking aloud here STP is >definitely dynamic. It helps a switch or bridge dynamically work around >loops in a network topology by creating a spanning tree. Perhaps that's >what they meant by "best path." Also, path selection is based on cost, >which is based on the bandwidth of a link, isn't it? > >Priscilla > >At 03:00 PM 7/31/01, Donald B Johnson jr wrote: >>Question >>Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: >> >>a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding >>packets between layer two devices. >> >>b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. >> >>c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, >>enabling network redundancy. >> >>d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth by >>multiples of the trunk paths. >> >>e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. >> >>Answer >>b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. > > >Priscilla Oppenheimer >http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14418&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE [7:14417]
Not always possible. "Roberts, Timothy" wrote: > Disable it in the bios. > > -Original Message- > From: Jonathan Hays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written > [7:14413] > > No keyboard? It depends. > > While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, etc.) will run > "headless", most > Intel x86 boxes I have encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the > machine > won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this I > don't know > about? > --- > Jonathan > > Symon Thurlow wrote: > > > I agree with Carroll, I have been predominantly MS and Novell, but have > > started to learn Linux. It isn't hard if you have a good grounding in > > Networking/IP/Network OS's. It is just a matter of finding/learning the > > commands. > > > > Another beauty of a *nix box; you only need two cables for it, power and > > network. Forget screen, keyboard, mouse... > > > > Symon > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Carroll Kong > > Sent: 31 July 2001 00:32 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today > > [7:14288] > > > > At 06:40 PM 7/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) wrote: > > >Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was not as > > >difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if that's > > >possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long journey to > > >complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home lab and I was > > >wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out there? I know > > >cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run Unix here at home > > >(win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone could help. Thanks > > >for your time! > > > > > >Tim > > > > Congratulations on passing the CCIE Written! > > > > I guess you might be out of luck. Here are some of your options > > > > a) continue searching for a free version of TACACS+ for Windows. > > b) Buy Cisco Secure ACS. > > c) Get an old machine and install Linux, Solaris x86, FreeBSD, NetBSD, or > > OpenBSD and grab tacacs+ from > > http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/ > > d) Port the code yourself from Unix to Windows. > > > > Obviously there is a certain time host inherent to the last three > > options. You should certainly weigh out the costs, as ALL of the options > > have an inherent cost to it, even a). Personally, I think learning Unix > is > > not so bad (maybe I am biased after all of these years) and may only take > > perhaps a week of your time (if you are a fast learner, one day) if you > > want to just get TACACS+ on it. You can consider multi-booting, but then > > you will have to take out more time to make sure you do not fry your > > machine. I hope you do know a lot about partitioning on x86 > > hardware. :) It honestly is not that bad, win2k's bootloader is quite > > friendly with booting the unices. On the side, I do not think TACACS+ is > a > > requirement for the lab. Not that it is a good reason to not learn > > TACACS+. Every CCIE should learn that eventually, on at least one > platform. > > > > If you install FreeBSD, you may run into issues compiling the code, I > > patched it so it can work on it. (not as hard as it sounds, only a small > > line change). If you choose that route, I can help you patch the code so > > it will compile on FreeBSD. Good luck! > > > > -Carroll Kong -- Jonathan Hays Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14417&t=14417 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intermittent connectivity loss [7:14416]
I must admit this is my first question posted to the group, though I've been a lurker for a long time. Here it is: We have workstations on 10 different floors (each floor divided in half, each half a different subnet), all connected to 5505's (20 in total). From the 5505's fiber goes to a 6509, then ultimately to the WAN via ATM. The servers all plug into the 6509. So far, so good. For the past 3 days we have had workstations (not all, but about 50%)on every floor lose connectivity to the network, whereby all of our NT and NetWare servers are unavailable and web browsing is gone. This has happened a total of 6 times, and there doesn't appear to be a pattern to the time or network utilization. Most times the users have to reboot, though sometimes they can reconnect without a reboot. Can anyone help steer me in the right direction? Our WAN guys can't help, and I have a feeling that it's going to be up to me to figure this one out. Thanks a lot. --Don _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14416&t=14416 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14415]
Disable it in the bios. -Original Message- From: Jonathan Hays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14413] No keyboard? It depends. While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, etc.) will run "headless", most Intel x86 boxes I have encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the machine won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this I don't know about? --- Jonathan Symon Thurlow wrote: > I agree with Carroll, I have been predominantly MS and Novell, but have > started to learn Linux. It isn't hard if you have a good grounding in > Networking/IP/Network OS's. It is just a matter of finding/learning the > commands. > > Another beauty of a *nix box; you only need two cables for it, power and > network. Forget screen, keyboard, mouse... > > Symon > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Carroll Kong > Sent: 31 July 2001 00:32 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today > [7:14288] > > At 06:40 PM 7/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) wrote: > >Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was not as > >difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if that's > >possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long journey to > >complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home lab and I was > >wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out there? I know > >cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run Unix here at home > >(win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone could help. Thanks > >for your time! > > > >Tim > > Congratulations on passing the CCIE Written! > > I guess you might be out of luck. Here are some of your options > > a) continue searching for a free version of TACACS+ for Windows. > b) Buy Cisco Secure ACS. > c) Get an old machine and install Linux, Solaris x86, FreeBSD, NetBSD, or > OpenBSD and grab tacacs+ from > http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/ > d) Port the code yourself from Unix to Windows. > > Obviously there is a certain time host inherent to the last three > options. You should certainly weigh out the costs, as ALL of the options > have an inherent cost to it, even a). Personally, I think learning Unix is > not so bad (maybe I am biased after all of these years) and may only take > perhaps a week of your time (if you are a fast learner, one day) if you > want to just get TACACS+ on it. You can consider multi-booting, but then > you will have to take out more time to make sure you do not fry your > machine. I hope you do know a lot about partitioning on x86 > hardware. :) It honestly is not that bad, win2k's bootloader is quite > friendly with booting the unices. On the side, I do not think TACACS+ is a > requirement for the lab. Not that it is a good reason to not learn > TACACS+. Every CCIE should learn that eventually, on at least one platform. > > If you install FreeBSD, you may run into issues compiling the code, I > patched it so it can work on it. (not as hard as it sounds, only a small > line change). If you choose that route, I can help you patch the code so > it will compile on FreeBSD. Good luck! > > -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14415&t=14415 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco VPN client and IPX [7:14410]
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Re: OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14413]
No keyboard? It depends. While it's true that native UNIX workstations (Sun, HP, etc.) will run "headless", most Intel x86 boxes I have encountered require you to plug in a keyboard or the machine won't boot, regardless of the OS installed. Or is there a way around this I don't know about? --- Jonathan Symon Thurlow wrote: > I agree with Carroll, I have been predominantly MS and Novell, but have > started to learn Linux. It isn't hard if you have a good grounding in > Networking/IP/Network OS's. It is just a matter of finding/learning the > commands. > > Another beauty of a *nix box; you only need two cables for it, power and > network. Forget screen, keyboard, mouse... > > Symon > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Carroll Kong > Sent: 31 July 2001 00:32 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today > [7:14288] > > At 06:40 PM 7/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) wrote: > >Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was not as > >difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if that's > >possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long journey to > >complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home lab and I was > >wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out there? I know > >cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run Unix here at home > >(win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone could help. Thanks > >for your time! > > > >Tim > > Congratulations on passing the CCIE Written! > > I guess you might be out of luck. Here are some of your options > > a) continue searching for a free version of TACACS+ for Windows. > b) Buy Cisco Secure ACS. > c) Get an old machine and install Linux, Solaris x86, FreeBSD, NetBSD, or > OpenBSD and grab tacacs+ from > http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/ > d) Port the code yourself from Unix to Windows. > > Obviously there is a certain time host inherent to the last three > options. You should certainly weigh out the costs, as ALL of the options > have an inherent cost to it, even a). Personally, I think learning Unix is > not so bad (maybe I am biased after all of these years) and may only take > perhaps a week of your time (if you are a fast learner, one day) if you > want to just get TACACS+ on it. You can consider multi-booting, but then > you will have to take out more time to make sure you do not fry your > machine. I hope you do know a lot about partitioning on x86 > hardware. :) It honestly is not that bad, win2k's bootloader is quite > friendly with booting the unices. On the side, I do not think TACACS+ is a > requirement for the lab. Not that it is a good reason to not learn > TACACS+. Every CCIE should learn that eventually, on at least one platform. > > If you install FreeBSD, you may run into issues compiling the code, I > patched it so it can work on it. (not as hard as it sounds, only a small > line change). If you choose that route, I can help you patch the code so > it will compile on FreeBSD. Good luck! > > -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14413&t=14413 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problema de groupstudy.com [7:14412]
Hola All! Hubo un problema entre esta area, y otra red, pido disculpas por las molestias. Alejandro Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14412&t=14412 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco VPN client and IPX [7:14410]
Does anybody know if the Cisco VPN client supports tunneling IPX? thanks, Mike Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14410&t=14410 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
Ooops. I meant to do reply, not reply all. ;-) No offence to Robert Padjen. His answers are straight-forward too except when he is purposely trying to emulate CID answers! Leigh Anne, your VLAN paper was excellent, by the way. I almost don't want to see an "enhancement" to it. But I'm sure it will be good. The suspense is killing me... Priscilla At 04:15 PM 7/31/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: >No, it wasn't one of my questions. Since there's a new CCNA paper on VLANs >going online at CertificationZone tomorrow, I'd expect that it's a question >from whomever authored that paper. I don't know who that is. I guess we'll >have to wait and see tomorrow! > > > -- Leigh Anne > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Priscilla Oppenheimer >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:00 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] > > >I wonder who the author is? I thought it might be you, but your answers are >more straight-forward. > >It's a mystery. ;-) It really does read a lot like a CID question. Maybe >it's Robert Padjen? > >Talk to you later, > >Priscilla > >At 04:14 PM 7/31/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: > >Actually, Spanning Tree Protocol can give a worst-possible-case path > >depending on the design of the network. All Spanning Tree Protocol does in > >terms of best path selection is determines the best path to the root >bridge, > >not to any layer 2 end-host. > > > > > > -- Leigh Anne > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >Donald B Johnson jr > >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:00 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] > > > > > >Question > >Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: > > > >a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding > >packets between layer two devices. > > > >b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. > > > >c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, > >enabling network redundancy. > > > >d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth >by > >multiples of the trunk paths. > > > >e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. > > > >Answer > >b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. > > >Priscilla Oppenheimer >http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14409&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
No, it wasn't one of my questions. Since there's a new CCNA paper on VLANs going online at CertificationZone tomorrow, I'd expect that it's a question from whomever authored that paper. I don't know who that is. I guess we'll have to wait and see tomorrow! -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] I wonder who the author is? I thought it might be you, but your answers are more straight-forward. It's a mystery. ;-) It really does read a lot like a CID question. Maybe it's Robert Padjen? Talk to you later, Priscilla At 04:14 PM 7/31/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: >Actually, Spanning Tree Protocol can give a worst-possible-case path >depending on the design of the network. All Spanning Tree Protocol does in >terms of best path selection is determines the best path to the root bridge, >not to any layer 2 end-host. > > > -- Leigh Anne > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Donald B Johnson jr >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:00 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] > > >Question >Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: > >a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding >packets between layer two devices. > >b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. > >c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, >enabling network redundancy. > >d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth by >multiples of the trunk paths. > >e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. > >Answer >b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14408&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT, was RE: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written [7:14407]
I agree with Carroll, I have been predominantly MS and Novell, but have started to learn Linux. It isn't hard if you have a good grounding in Networking/IP/Network OS's. It is just a matter of finding/learning the commands. Another beauty of a *nix box; you only need two cables for it, power and network. Forget screen, keyboard, mouse... Symon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carroll Kong Sent: 31 July 2001 00:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tacacs+ for home Use? and Passed CCIE written today [7:14288] At 06:40 PM 7/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) wrote: >Hello all. I just passed my CCIE today (very happy). I was not as >difficult as I expected (possibly over studied for it, if that's >possible). Anyways, I am about to embark on the long journey to >complete the CCIE by taking the lab. I have my own home lab and I was >wondering if there is a free version of Tacacs+ out there? I know >cisco has a Unix version they supply but I don't run Unix here at home >(win2k for my lab) and I was wondering if anyone could help. Thanks >for your time! > >Tim Congratulations on passing the CCIE Written! I guess you might be out of luck. Here are some of your options a) continue searching for a free version of TACACS+ for Windows. b) Buy Cisco Secure ACS. c) Get an old machine and install Linux, Solaris x86, FreeBSD, NetBSD, or OpenBSD and grab tacacs+ from http://www.gazi.edu.tr/tacacs/ d) Port the code yourself from Unix to Windows. Obviously there is a certain time host inherent to the last three options. You should certainly weigh out the costs, as ALL of the options have an inherent cost to it, even a). Personally, I think learning Unix is not so bad (maybe I am biased after all of these years) and may only take perhaps a week of your time (if you are a fast learner, one day) if you want to just get TACACS+ on it. You can consider multi-booting, but then you will have to take out more time to make sure you do not fry your machine. I hope you do know a lot about partitioning on x86 hardware. :) It honestly is not that bad, win2k's bootloader is quite friendly with booting the unices. On the side, I do not think TACACS+ is a requirement for the lab. Not that it is a good reason to not learn TACACS+. Every CCIE should learn that eventually, on at least one platform. If you install FreeBSD, you may run into issues compiling the code, I patched it so it can work on it. (not as hard as it sounds, only a small line change). If you choose that route, I can help you patch the code so it will compile on FreeBSD. Good luck! -Carroll Kong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14407&t=14407 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T1 [7:14397]
Never heard of one. Who is the Service Provider for the T1 in question? Ted Dronen Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14406&t=14397 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
I wonder who the author is? I thought it might be you, but your answers are more straight-forward. It's a mystery. ;-) It really does read a lot like a CID question. Maybe it's Robert Padjen? Talk to you later, Priscilla At 04:14 PM 7/31/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: >Actually, Spanning Tree Protocol can give a worst-possible-case path >depending on the design of the network. All Spanning Tree Protocol does in >terms of best path selection is determines the best path to the root bridge, >not to any layer 2 end-host. > > > -- Leigh Anne > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Donald B Johnson jr >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:00 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] > > >Question >Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: > >a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding >packets between layer two devices. > >b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. > >c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, >enabling network redundancy. > >d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth by >multiples of the trunk paths. > >e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. > >Answer >b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14405&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
Actually, Spanning Tree Protocol can give a worst-possible-case path depending on the design of the network. All Spanning Tree Protocol does in terms of best path selection is determines the best path to the root bridge, not to any layer 2 end-host. -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Donald B Johnson jr Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] Question Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding packets between layer two devices. b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, enabling network redundancy. d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth by multiples of the trunk paths. e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. Answer b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14403&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
Yeah I thought loop-free would be a better selection of words than best. My thinking is why would you set a bridge priority if it was done best and dynamically. I think either Doyle or Caslow or both ( can't remember ) illustrates nicely why you would want to get involved in determining root bridge for optimum path selection. Maybe the author from cert zone could give us his thinking, he may be here. Don - Original Message - From: "Ole Drews Jensen" To: "'Donald B Johnson jr'" ; Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: RE: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] > Of the given answers, I would agree 100% > > Had there been a choice > > f) Avoid routing loops on a LAN / VLAN. > > I would probably have selected that one - but then again, I don't know the > original idea behind the creation of the STP. > > Hth, > > Ole > > ~~~ > Ole Drews Jensen > Systems Network Manager > CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~~~ > http://www.RouterChief.com > ~~~ > NEED A JOB ??? > http://www.oledrews.com/job > ~~~ > > > -Original Message- > From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:00 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] > > > Question > Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: > > a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding > packets between layer two devices. > > b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. > > c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, > enabling network redundancy. > > d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth by > multiples of the trunk paths. > > e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. > > Answer > b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14402&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
yup, i agree >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 07/31/01 03:37PM >>> Sounds like something from the CID test. ;-) Seriously, remember that you are picking the BEST answer. All answers but B are clearly made up. Remember that the author has to come up with 4 or 5 feasible wrong answers. This is the hardest part of writing an exam. As an exam-taker, you can sometimes see this process at work and easily recognize which answers are the made-up wrong ones, as we can with this example. As far as B being absolutely right, I'm thinking aloud here STP is definitely dynamic. It helps a switch or bridge dynamically work around loops in a network topology by creating a spanning tree. Perhaps that's what they meant by "best path." Also, path selection is based on cost, which is based on the bandwidth of a link, isn't it? Priscilla At 03:00 PM 7/31/01, Donald B Johnson jr wrote: >Question >Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: > >a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding >packets between layer two devices. > >b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. > >c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, >enabling network redundancy. > >d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth by >multiples of the trunk paths. > >e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. > >Answer >b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14400&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
STP does not avoid routing loops, it avoids bridging loops. >>> "Ole Drews Jensen" 07/31/01 03:36PM >>> Another day where my brain is not working :-( Let me change my answer f: f) Avoid loops on a LAN / VLAN. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Ole Drews Jensen Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:59 PM To: 'Donald B Johnson jr'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] Of the given answers, I would agree 100% Had there been a choice f) Avoid routing loops on a LAN / VLAN. I would probably have selected that one - but then again, I don't know the original idea behind the creation of the STP. Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] Question Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding packets between layer two devices. b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, enabling network redundancy. d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth by multiples of the trunk paths. e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. Answer b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14401&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
Sounds like something from the CID test. ;-) Seriously, remember that you are picking the BEST answer. All answers but B are clearly made up. Remember that the author has to come up with 4 or 5 feasible wrong answers. This is the hardest part of writing an exam. As an exam-taker, you can sometimes see this process at work and easily recognize which answers are the made-up wrong ones, as we can with this example. As far as B being absolutely right, I'm thinking aloud here STP is definitely dynamic. It helps a switch or bridge dynamically work around loops in a network topology by creating a spanning tree. Perhaps that's what they meant by "best path." Also, path selection is based on cost, which is based on the bandwidth of a link, isn't it? Priscilla At 03:00 PM 7/31/01, Donald B Johnson jr wrote: >Question >Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: > >a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding >packets between layer two devices. > >b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. > >c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, >enabling network redundancy. > >d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth by >multiples of the trunk paths. > >e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. > >Answer >b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14399&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
Another day where my brain is not working :-( Let me change my answer f: f) Avoid loops on a LAN / VLAN. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Ole Drews Jensen Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:59 PM To: 'Donald B Johnson jr'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] Of the given answers, I would agree 100% Had there been a choice f) Avoid routing loops on a LAN / VLAN. I would probably have selected that one - but then again, I don't know the original idea behind the creation of the STP. Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] Question Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding packets between layer two devices. b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, enabling network redundancy. d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth by multiples of the trunk paths. e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. Answer b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14398&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T1 [7:14397]
Can someone please explain what a TDS T1 is, and can these circuits be reprovisioned like a frame circuit??? We are have problems with excessive interface resets at one of our sites, and of couse the telco is saying it is not them. Thanks for any help. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14397&t=14397 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
Of the given answers, I would agree 100% Had there been a choice f) Avoid routing loops on a LAN / VLAN. I would probably have selected that one - but then again, I don't know the original idea behind the creation of the STP. Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394] Question Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding packets between layer two devices. b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, enabling network redundancy. d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth by multiples of the trunk paths. e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. Answer b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14396&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
I would prefer that the answer was phrased a little differently. Perhaps something like "Dynamically enforces a loop-free topology for layer 2 devices." This would be a little more accurate, since STP doesn't provide the best path between any two devices, it just tries to guarantee a loop-free path. My $.011 after taxes, John >>> "Donald B Johnson jr" 7/31/01 1:00:03 PM >>> Question Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding packets between layer two devices. b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, enabling network redundancy. d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth by multiples of the trunk paths. e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. Answer b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14395&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thoughts on this one from cert zone [7:14394]
Question Spanning Tree protocol was designed to: a) Simulate a layer 3 (link-state) routing protocol, efficiently forwarding packets between layer two devices. b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. c) Provide capability for SNA gateways to use duplicate MAC addresses, enabling network redundancy. d) Trunk multiple pathways effectively increasing inter-segment bandwidth by multiples of the trunk paths. e) Provide load balancing between redundant network connections. Answer b) Dynamically determine best path selection for layer 2 devices. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14394&t=14394 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is loading IOS into 2500 with no Flash possible? [7:14375]
Boot from a TFTP server. You don't need Flash! -Rizz -Original Message- From: Scott Lokey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Is loading IOS into 2500 with no Flash possible? [7:14375] Hi, I have 3 2500's that have 16meg RAM but no Flash memory. I had read where you could boot to ROMMON> and issue an XMODEM command and have the IOS transfered to the box. There is also a option to load it into RAM and run it (-r I think). Sounded good but when I boot to ROMMON, the xmodem command is not there. I have the latest boot ROM from Cisco on these as well. What gives? Documentation wrong? Am I doing something wrong? Is this even possible? Thanks for the help, Scott ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14393&t=14375 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is loading IOS into 2500 with no Flash possible? [7:14375]
There are several posts regarding 2500 routers and BIOS/FLASH replacement, upgrades, in the archives, some of which date back to 1999. A quick search in the archives for '2500 boot rom' yeilded 8 hits. (without the quotes) -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is loading IOS into 2500 with no Flash possible? [7:14375] The 2500 have a basic IOS stored on Boot ROMs. If no IOS is present in flash, then the router will boot to Config Helper mode (or boot helper, or something like that) and you can use TFTP to transfer an image to flash. You said your routers have *no* flash. I thought 2500s had some built-in flash, but if they don't and you really don't have any flash then you're hosed. Fortunately, 2500 flash probably isn't too expensive nowdays. Good luck! John >>> "Patrick Ramsey" 7/31/01 11:28:50 AM >>> So how do you put the ios on them? (just curious) I've never had to troubleshoot a 2500. The only 2500 we have ever had, just sits there and routes no problem... >>> "John Neiberger" 07/31/01 12:58PM >>> The 2500 series can not do XMODEM. Also, these are not run-from-RAM devices; they run from flash. The 2600 series can do what you are attempting but not the 2500s. Regards, John >>> "Scott Lokey" 7/31/01 10:17:30 AM >>> Hi, I have 3 2500's that have 16meg RAM but no Flash memory. I had read where you could boot to ROMMON> and issue an XMODEM command and have the IOS transfered to the box. There is also a option to load it into RAM and run it (-r I think). Sounded good but when I boot to ROMMON, the xmodem command is not there. I have the latest boot ROM from Cisco on these as well. What gives? Documentation wrong? Am I doing something wrong? Is this even possible? Thanks for the help, Scott ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14392&t=14375 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MTU on the Internet [7:14380]
It was with the proliferation of Ethernet/Sonet this 576 byte MTU is disappearing. Anyone aware of what equipment actually still has this MTU. ""JoJo Aricat"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I thought the minimum MTU size was 576..! > > -Joe > -Original Message- > From: Nabil Fares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: MTU on the Internet [7:14380] > > > Greetings, > > What's the common/standard mtu on the internet backbone? At one point all > ISPs used 572 size. Any internet resources you guys can point me to? > > Thanks, > > Nabil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14391&t=14380 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Remote logging with Cat5509 [7:14188]
Hi It has been a while since I've touched a 5000 but... Can you ping the syslog server from the Cat? If not, you may need to add a route so that the console knows how to get to the syslog server (set ip route ...) HTH RM Dennis H wrote: > > I'm trying to get remote logging enabled on a Cat5509 and could > use some > advice. I have everything set up according to Cisco's site but > messages do > not make it to the syslog server. The sc0 is configured with > an ip and > gateway and I can ping and telnet to the syslog box. I have > the severity > and facility set up properly. I do receive messages on the > syslog server > from the RSFC but not from the Cat itself. The syslog server > is on a > different subnet and vlan than the Cat management interface and > all I can > figure is syslog messages aren't getting routed for some > reason. But like I > said ping and telnet work... hmmm > > Any ideas??? > > Thanks, > > Dennis > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14390&t=14188 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Switch Access? [7:14388]
Does anyone have a switch that I could have access to for awhile so that I can try some stuff out? Also any pointers to a switch simulator would be appreciated also. Thanks Russ Kreigh, CCDA, CCNA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14388&t=14388 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MTU on the Internet [7:14380]
There was actually some recent debate on this issue within the ISIS wg in the IETF from some notable folks including Tony Li from Procket (ex Juniper/Cisco). In reality, there isn't a standard IP MTU in use which can create some problems. Some of the key issues include the use of private addressing which breaks path MTU discovery and the ever more frequent use of encapsulation strategies (IPSec/MPLS etc). Some harmonization of this value would certainly seem valuable. Most major router vendors support MTU's up to 9180 in size however, you see a lot of the following in the internet: 10/100 Ethernet devices at 1518, POS at 4470, FDDI at 4470 (less and less FDDI) and GigE at >4469, Greetings, > >What's the common/standard mtu on the internet backbone? At one point all >ISPs used 572 size. Any internet resources you guys can point me to? > >Thanks, > >Nabil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14389&t=14380 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MTU on the Internet [7:14380]
I thought the minimum MTU size was 576..! -Joe -Original Message- From: Nabil Fares [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MTU on the Internet [7:14380] Greetings, What's the common/standard mtu on the internet backbone? At one point all ISPs used 572 size. Any internet resources you guys can point me to? Thanks, Nabil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14386&t=14380 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LAB SWAP Ed Kanes [7:14387]
Hi please let me know if you still have it..??? Harith Alkatib CISCO WIRELESS LAN SE & FE, CNX-A, CCDA, CCNA, MCP, MCSE, MCT, CISCO SALES EXPERT > AHSMC NETWORK OPS GM Staging Center http://nios.gm.com Tele# 248-577-1663 Pager# 248-405-6304 Fax# 248-577-1672 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14387&t=14387 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is loading IOS into 2500 with no Flash possible? [7:14375]
The 2500 have a basic IOS stored on Boot ROMs. If no IOS is present in flash, then the router will boot to Config Helper mode (or boot helper, or something like that) and you can use TFTP to transfer an image to flash. You said your routers have *no* flash. I thought 2500s had some built-in flash, but if they don't and you really don't have any flash then you're hosed. Fortunately, 2500 flash probably isn't too expensive nowdays. Good luck! John >>> "Patrick Ramsey" 7/31/01 11:28:50 AM >>> So how do you put the ios on them? (just curious) I've never had to troubleshoot a 2500. The only 2500 we have ever had, just sits there and routes no problem... >>> "John Neiberger" 07/31/01 12:58PM >>> The 2500 series can not do XMODEM. Also, these are not run-from-RAM devices; they run from flash. The 2600 series can do what you are attempting but not the 2500s. Regards, John >>> "Scott Lokey" 7/31/01 10:17:30 AM >>> Hi, I have 3 2500's that have 16meg RAM but no Flash memory. I had read where you could boot to ROMMON> and issue an XMODEM command and have the IOS transfered to the box. There is also a option to load it into RAM and run it (-r I think). Sounded good but when I boot to ROMMON, the xmodem command is not there. I have the latest boot ROM from Cisco on these as well. What gives? Documentation wrong? Am I doing something wrong? Is this even possible? Thanks for the help, Scott ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14385&t=14375 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Looping up remote csu !! [7:14384]
Hi all 3600A--csu-private line-csu--3600B In this environment, I am at 3600A router. I was wondering if I could loop up remote csu(3600B side) by configuring 3600A router instead of having telco do that for me. I remember that I have done this before between 7200 router and 3600 router. I was also wondering if I could do with even lower model of routers, such as 2600s and 2500s. Would it be possible? Thanks JP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14384&t=14384 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MTU on the Internet [7:14380]
SONET interfaces generally use 4470, if that's what you mean by internet backbone. -dre ""Nabil Fares"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Greetings, > > What's the common/standard mtu on the internet backbone? At one point all > ISPs used 572 size. Any internet resources you guys can point me to? > > Thanks, > > Nabil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14382&t=14380 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is loading IOS into 2500 with no Flash possible? [7:14375]
So how do you put the ios on them? (just curious) I've never had to troubleshoot a 2500. The only 2500 we have ever had, just sits there and routes no problem... >>> "John Neiberger" 07/31/01 12:58PM >>> The 2500 series can not do XMODEM. Also, these are not run-from-RAM devices; they run from flash. The 2600 series can do what you are attempting but not the 2500s. Regards, John >>> "Scott Lokey" 7/31/01 10:17:30 AM >>> Hi, I have 3 2500's that have 16meg RAM but no Flash memory. I had read where you could boot to ROMMON> and issue an XMODEM command and have the IOS transfered to the box. There is also a option to load it into RAM and run it (-r I think). Sounded good but when I boot to ROMMON, the xmodem command is not there. I have the latest boot ROM from Cisco on these as well. What gives? Documentation wrong? Am I doing something wrong? Is this even possible? Thanks for the help, Scott ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14383&t=14375 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Keep losing Cisco 3640 startup config [7:14376]
make sure the config register is set to 0x2102 and if not go into config mode and type config-register 0x2102 and do a sh ver and at the bottom it will tell you where the next boot will come from -Original Message- From: W. Alan Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Keep losing Cisco 3640 startup config [7:14376] I would begin by checking my config register... It sounds like it may be set to bypass the stored config. - Original Message - From: "kwock99" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:30 PM Subject: Keep losing Cisco 3640 startup config [7:14376] > Hi, > > I have a Cisco 3640 router and found that everytime I power down the router, > the startup config is missing and restart the "setup". > > I have "copy run start" many times. > > Anyone has the idea to fix it? > > > Best regards > Francis Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14381&t=14376 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MTU on the Internet [7:14380]
Greetings, What's the common/standard mtu on the internet backbone? At one point all ISPs used 572 size. Any internet resources you guys can point me to? Thanks, Nabil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14380&t=14380 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keep losing Cisco 3640 startup config [7:14376]
I would begin by checking my config register... It sounds like it may be set to bypass the stored config. - Original Message - From: "kwock99" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:30 PM Subject: Keep losing Cisco 3640 startup config [7:14376] > Hi, > > I have a Cisco 3640 router and found that everytime I power down the router, > the startup config is missing and restart the "setup". > > I have "copy run start" many times. > > Anyone has the idea to fix it? > > > Best regards > Francis Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14379&t=14376 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is loading IOS into 2500 with no Flash possible? [7:14375]
The 2500 series can not do XMODEM. Also, these are not run-from-RAM devices; they run from flash. The 2600 series can do what you are attempting but not the 2500s. Regards, John >>> "Scott Lokey" 7/31/01 10:17:30 AM >>> Hi, I have 3 2500's that have 16meg RAM but no Flash memory. I had read where you could boot to ROMMON> and issue an XMODEM command and have the IOS transfered to the box. There is also a option to load it into RAM and run it (-r I think). Sounded good but when I boot to ROMMON, the xmodem command is not there. I have the latest boot ROM from Cisco on these as well. What gives? Documentation wrong? Am I doing something wrong? Is this even possible? Thanks for the help, Scott ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14378&t=14375 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Keep losing Cisco 3640 startup config [7:14376]
What is your registry setting? -Original Message- From: kwock99 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Keep losing Cisco 3640 startup config [7:14376] Hi, I have a Cisco 3640 router and found that everytime I power down the router, the startup config is missing and restart the "setup". I have "copy run start" many times. Anyone has the idea to fix it? Best regards Francis Tsui Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14377&t=14376 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNL Blackhole list for GroupStudy [7:14082]
Aloha Paul, The double opt-in or confirmed opt-in is where you send a subscribe message to the list, the list sends a response to the address being subscribed, and the user has to modify and reply to that message before the subscription is processed. Done properly this defeats any automated subscription mechanisms used by spam-ware. Being able to read the mail via the web is great. It is the posting from websites than can be a can of worms to manage, depending on how it is implemented. The main thing is to keep it from being something that can be scripted and abused by spam-ware in combination with auto-enrolling scripts. Spammers are by nature lazy, greedy, and unethical. They believe that whatever is the easiest and cheapest for *them* is what is ok to do. Make it hard for them to spam this site and they will move along to someone elses site which is not as well protected. Making the first post by a new user have to be approved is easy to do with Majordomo. I'm not sure what software you are using, though. An alternative would be a five-day delay of posting permissions. Since spammers tend to have their accounts terminated fairly quickly for abuse, if you require them to do a confirmed subscription and then delay them for a week from posting, the odds are that their account will have been closed down and they won't be able to post. For the 99.9% good people who subscribe, it will basically have them do what is very often recommended by listmanagers: read the list traffic for a few days before you post - get a feel for the audience and typical dialogue and what is appropriate for discussion and what will likely get you flamed. As for the various *BL type lists they have varying levels of success; the MAPS list is no longer an option for those who don't want to pay for it though, as MAPS now requires paid subscriptions. The good ones to use are the ones that block people doing direct MX posting from dialups. These are almost always someone using spamware, and more and more ISP's are actually blocking outbound port 25 from their dialup pools because of it. I'm really glad you are looking at this - of the various lists I'm on, with the exception of the few spam messages sent here yours has the highest SNR and some of the brightest minds in the industry. It does say a lot for our industry that the likes of Priscilla O, Howard B, et al freely give of their time day in and day out. (That includes the many other brilliant CCIE's and CCIE's to be as well.) - James D. Wilson, CCDA, MCP "non sunt multiplicanda entia praeter necessitatem" William of Ockham (1285-1347/49) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Borghese Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 9:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DNL Blackhole list for GroupStudy [7:14082] Hey James, Those are some good idea, but they have a few problems. First, the majority of the users of this list are on a newsfeed or read through the website. These are very popular options I do not want to eliminate. The CCIELAB list does require registered users before allowing the posting. While this has eliminated spam, it has also caused about 10 legitimate messages/day to be rejected - along with the one or two spam messages. I think the solutions is approve all first-time posters. After you have posted a few messages, you will be allowed to post without approval. Of course, this will require substantial rewriting of the software. I also like the idea of hiding the e-mail address from the webfeed. I hate to do it, but it seems to be necessary. What do you mean by "double opt-in" registration? Take care, Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14327&t=14082 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keep losing Cisco 3640 startup config [7:14376]
Hi, I have a Cisco 3640 router and found that everytime I power down the router, the startup config is missing and restart the "setup". I have "copy run start" many times. Anyone has the idea to fix it? Best regards Francis Tsui Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14376&t=14376 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is loading IOS into 2500 with no Flash possible? [7:14375]
Hi, I have 3 2500's that have 16meg RAM but no Flash memory. I had read where you could boot to ROMMON> and issue an XMODEM command and have the IOS transfered to the box. There is also a option to load it into RAM and run it (-r I think). Sounded good but when I boot to ROMMON, the xmodem command is not there. I have the latest boot ROM from Cisco on these as well. What gives? Documentation wrong? Am I doing something wrong? Is this even possible? Thanks for the help, Scott ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14375&t=14375 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Foundation Exam Opinion [7:14353]
I am planning on taking this exam in the next 3weeks.
Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
George
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From: Estes, Timothy R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 July 2001 03:36
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Subject: Foundation Exam Opinion [7:14353]
I'm starting my studies for CCNP and am wondering how many of you CCNPs out
there have taken the Foundation Exam instead of the individual exams.
If you have taken it, would you recommend it to others?
Thanks,
Timothy Estes
CCNA, CCDA
Brainbench MVP for TCP/IP Administration
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RE: Frame Relay - slow link? overutilized? [7:14163]
Hi Herold, Cisco IOS listens to DLCI 1023(Cisco LMI) and to DLCI 0(ANSI) LMI at the same time. Here is a link that may help. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/wan_ r/wrdfrely.htm#xtocid1494040 and another http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/atm/c8540/12_0/13_19/cmd_ref /f.htm and another one http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios11/cbook/cfrelay .htm#xtocid198611 -Original Message- From: Herold Heiko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Frame Relay - slow link? overutilized? [7:14163] I don't know what *should* happen, however I can confirm (from personal experience) it is possible to have a somewhat working link with mismatched lmi type. If all the remote sites have cisco and HQ is ANSI I'd change HQ to cisco for a start, although I think I remember ANSI has less overhead, at last at lo! speed I think there's a significant difference; anyone can confirm this ? I can't reach my stuff just now :(, but I remember a case with IP terminals (like serial terminals but with ethernet, just capable of doing telnet and print with reverse telnet) at 9600, screen refresh was MUCH better with ansi (not counting compression). Heiko -- -- PREVINET S.p.A.[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Via Ferretto, 1ph x39-041-5907073 -- I-31021 Mogliano V.to (TV) fax x39-041-5907087 -- ITALY >-Original Message- >From: Provost, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:39 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Frame Relay - slow link? overutilized? [7:14163] > > >I'm confused. My remote site LMI type is Cisco, HQ is ANSI. >I am passing >LMI and the site is up, just slow. If my LMI type was >mismatched, wouldn't >it not work at all? I cleared the counters and over the last couple of >hours have received no CRCs, FECNs, BECNs, dropped packets, etc. > >Here is some statistics from my Frame Relay provider. Their >reporting also >shows no FECNs, BECNs, discarded packets, etc. > > >PVC Usage to CIR Ratio Exceptions > >Hour Day %Peak 5 Min Crit Thresh >6Thu290.80150.00 >7Wed150.11150.00 >12 Tue150.41150.00 >12 Fri173.33150.00 >15 Mon172.14150.00 >16 Thu150.92150.00 > >Any suggestions? > >TIA, >Rob > > >-Original Message- >From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:40 AM >To: Provost, Robert >Subject: RE: Frame Relay - slow link? overutilized? [7:14163] > > >Robert, > >What kind of router is at HQ? Is it the one below? >What kind is at the remote end? Is IT the one below? >Which end are we looking at in other words? > >Are Both Routers CISCO? Is the Frame Relay Network providing >CISCO LMI? >(that is my FIRST question) > >If so then check cables. CRC's are most often a layer one issue. > >Jim > >-Original Message- >From: Provost, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:22 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Frame Relay - slow link? overutilized? [7:14163] > > >Here is the sh int after cleared counters and 5 minute wait. >We have 320+ >sites. Most sites are 56k lines, some frac T1, some DSL. >Most have one PVC >back to HQ. HQ has three routers on the Frame w/a total of 7 T1s. > >Thanks for your help, > >Rob > > >router#sh int >Ethernet0 is up, line protocol is up > Hardware is QUICC Ethernet, address is 0001.42a5.c6ec (bia >0001.42a5.c6ec) > Internet address is 10.253.X.X/24 > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, rely 255/255, >load 1/255 > Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec) > ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 > Last input 00:00:01, output 00:00:00, output hang never > Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:07:13 > Queueing strategy: fifo > Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops > 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec > 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec > 186 packets input, 19777 bytes, 0 no buffer > Received 177 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles > 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort > 0 input packets with dribble condition detected > 438 packets output, 207446 bytes, 0 underruns > 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets > 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred > 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier > 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out >Serial0 is up, line protocol is up > Hardware is QUICC Serial (with onboard CSU/DSU) > Description: router DLCI 200 > MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely 255/255, >load 1/255 > Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF, loopback not set, keepalive >set (10 sec) > LMI enq sent 44, LMI stat recvd 44, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI up > LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent 0, LMI upd sent 0 > LMI DLCI 1023 LMI type is CISCO frame relay
Re: checkpoint list? [7:14359]
try tis http://news.checkpoint.com/nntp.html >>> "Guy Russell" 07/31/01 10:57AM >>> Great idea.. I would like to know as well... - Original Message - From: Provost, Robert To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: checkpoint list? [7:14359] > Sorry, off topic -- > > Does anyone know of a list like this for Checkpoint? > > Thanks for your help, > Rob Provost Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14371&t=14359 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: checkpoint list? [7:14359]
go to www.greatcircle.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guy Russell Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: checkpoint list? [7:14359] Great idea.. I would like to know as well... - Original Message - From: Provost, Robert To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: checkpoint list? [7:14359] > Sorry, off topic -- > > Does anyone know of a list like this for Checkpoint? > > Thanks for your help, > Rob Provost Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14369&t=14359 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checkpoint list? [7:14359]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- > Great idea.. I would like to know as well... > > > - Original Message - > From: Provost, Robert > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:29 AM > Subject: checkpoint list? [7:14359] > > > > Sorry, off topic -- > > > > Does anyone know of a list like this for Checkpoint? > > > > Thanks for your help, > > Rob Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cheers, Symon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14368&t=14359 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GEIP+ Memory Upgrade [7:14367]
I'm trying to upgrade the memory of a GEIP+ blade - so I've removed two of the memory chips currently on the board (64 megs total) and I'm going to be adding one 256 meg chip - does anyone know which side the chip goes on (which side is bank 0)? I looked on the CCO but only found diagrams for the GEIP. Thanks, John E. Danner, CCNA Network Management & Operations Zoomtown.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14367&t=14367 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
32MB flash for 2620, 2621 ? True or false? [7:14357]
Hi, Just take a look at ebay, and a seller is selling 32MB flash for 2620 and 2621. Did anyone try this before? Cisco mentioned 16MB is the Maximum! If it does, I can run ISP IOS pack : ) Anyone know about this? Thanks. anyong Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14357&t=14357 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccnp bootcamp [7:14356]
I got laid off in April, and was considering a CCNP boot camp. To make a long story short, they guaranteed that I would get a CCNP for about $5,000 (half off). Talking to recruiters, they said that they had candidates with CCNPs with no experience that they just could not place. Salary surveys and word of mouth say that someone like myself with 3 years of hands on router experience is worth about $10,000 a year more with a CCNP. But that assumes you are going to leave your present company and get a new job. Unless your present company rewards certs, you will have to look for another job to get a pay increase. Also, consider that classes may be at inconvient times and places. You may have to wait for a class to come to your town, or pay for travel and hotel to get the time you want. Lastly, you may need a big chunk of prep time. The one I was considering shipped you a big boadload of books to read, and you had to take delivery of the books something like 8 weeks before the class or sign a waiver on the guarantee. So the CCNP is icing on the cake, but you have to have the cake (experience) first. If you look at the stats for CCIEs, they virtually all have 5 or more years of hands on experience. The moral of the story is get the experience. ""Guy Russell"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Typically, I would not advocate any Boot camp... They are good to help you > get to pass a test, but then you only have a paper... Not too useful in a > technical interview... Yes, companies dont trust paper anymore, you have to > prove it now!!! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14366&t=14356 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checkpoint list? [7:14359]
Great idea.. I would like to know as well... - Original Message - From: Provost, Robert To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: checkpoint list? [7:14359] > Sorry, off topic -- > > Does anyone know of a list like this for Checkpoint? > > Thanks for your help, > Rob Provost Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14365&t=14359 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Frame Relay - slow link? overutilized? [7:14163]
Bummer! Reading that manpage I realized I did remember that "fact" wrong :( The lower speed ecc. was a "encapsulation frame-relay" vs. "encapsulation frame-relay IETF" issue, so please ignore my comments. Now I'll return to my regulary scheduled foot-in-mouth. Heiko -- -- PREVINET S.p.A.[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Via Ferretto, 1ph x39-041-5907073 -- I-31021 Mogliano V.to (TV) fax x39-041-5907087 -- ITALY >-Original Message- >From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:27 PM >To: Herold Heiko; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Frame Relay - slow link? overutilized? [7:14163] > > >Hi Herold, > >Cisco IOS listens to DLCI 1023(Cisco LMI) and to DLCI 0(ANSI) >LMI at the >same time. > >Here is a link that may help. >http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121 >/121cgcr/wan_ >r/wrdfrely.htm#xtocid1494040 >and >another >http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/atm/c8540/12_0/ >13_19/cmd_ref >/f.htm >and another one >http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios11/ >cbook/cfrelay >.htm#xtocid198611 > > >-Original Message- >From: Herold Heiko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:58 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Frame Relay - slow link? overutilized? [7:14163] > > >I don't know what *should* happen, however I can confirm (from personal >experience) it is possible to have a somewhat working link with >mismatched lmi type. >If all the remote sites have cisco and HQ is ANSI I'd change >HQ to cisco >for a start, although I think I remember ANSI has less >overhead, at last >at lo! speed I think there's a significant difference; anyone can >confirm this ? I can't reach my stuff just now :(, but I >remember a case >with IP terminals (like serial terminals but with ethernet, >just capable >of doing telnet and print with reverse telnet) at 9600, screen refresh >was MUCH better with ansi (not counting compression). > >Heiko > >-- >-- PREVINET S.p.A.[EMAIL PROTECTED] >-- Via Ferretto, 1ph x39-041-5907073 >-- I-31021 Mogliano V.to (TV) fax x39-041-5907087 >-- ITALY > > > >>-Original Message- >>From: Provost, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:39 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: RE: Frame Relay - slow link? overutilized? [7:14163] >> >> >>I'm confused. My remote site LMI type is Cisco, HQ is ANSI. >>I am passing >>LMI and the site is up, just slow. If my LMI type was >>mismatched, wouldn't >>it not work at all? I cleared the counters and over the last >couple of >>hours have received no CRCs, FECNs, BECNs, dropped packets, etc. >> >>Here is some statistics from my Frame Relay provider. Their >>reporting also >>shows no FECNs, BECNs, discarded packets, etc. >> >> >>PVC Usage to CIR Ratio Exceptions >> >>Hour Day %Peak 5 Min Crit Thresh >>6Thu290.80150.00 >>7Wed150.11150.00 >>12 Tue150.41150.00 >>12 Fri173.33150.00 >>15 Mon172.14150.00 >>16 Thu150.92150.00 >> >>Any suggestions? >> >>TIA, >>Rob >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:40 AM >>To: Provost, Robert >>Subject: RE: Frame Relay - slow link? overutilized? [7:14163] >> >> >>Robert, >> >>What kind of router is at HQ? Is it the one below? >>What kind is at the remote end? Is IT the one below? >>Which end are we looking at in other words? >> >>Are Both Routers CISCO? Is the Frame Relay Network providing >>CISCO LMI? >>(that is my FIRST question) >> >>If so then check cables. CRC's are most often a layer one issue. >> >>Jim >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Provost, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:22 AM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: RE: Frame Relay - slow link? overutilized? [7:14163] >> >> >>Here is the sh int after cleared counters and 5 minute wait. >>We have 320+ >>sites. Most sites are 56k lines, some frac T1, some DSL. >>Most have one PVC >>back to HQ. HQ has three routers on the Frame w/a total of 7 T1s. >> >>Thanks for your help, >> >>Rob >> >> >>router#sh int >>Ethernet0 is up, line protocol is up >> Hardware is QUICC Ethernet, address is 0001.42a5.c6ec (bia >>0001.42a5.c6ec) >> Internet address is 10.253.X.X/24 >> MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, rely 255/255, >>load 1/255 >> Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec) >> ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 >> Last input 00:00:01, output 00:00:00, output hang never >> Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:07:13 >> Queueing strategy: fifo >> Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops >> 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec >> 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec >> 186 packets input, 19777 bytes, 0 no buffer >> Received 177 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles >> 0 input
RE: Suggested changes to the e-mail format of Grou [7:14263]
I second that last part wholeheartedly! Paul does not get thanked enough for this service. Think of the huge numbers of people worldwide who have received certifications and some excellent free education thanks to this list. Of course, the participants should be thanked as well, but without Paul, the list wouldn't even exist in the first place. Thanks, John >>> "Leigh Anne Chisholm" 7/30/01 4:29:25 PM >>> No matter what you do, there will always be someone that's not happy with what you've done. The more you try to accommodate, the more work you undertake--and Rule #1 applies again. Someone out there will not be happy with what you've done. Just let it go... save yourself the headaches. If people are that unhappy, let them unsubscribe. It's that simple--and it requires very little work on your part. You do too much already, keeping this going for how many years now? You're an icon in the Cisco community, just because Groupstudy exists. -- Leigh Anne PS. Thank you for all your efforts. You don't hear that enough I think. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14358&t=14263 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: checkpoint list? [7:14359]
Hi, Checkout groups.yahoo.com and search for checkpoint or CCSA. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Provost, Robert Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: checkpoint list? [7:14359] Sorry, off topic -- Does anyone know of a list like this for Checkpoint? Thanks for your help, Rob Provost Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14361&t=14359 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccnp bootcamp [7:14356]
Typically, I would not advocate any Boot camp... They are good to help you get to pass a test, but then you only have a paper... Not too useful in a technical interview... Yes, companies dont trust paper anymore, you have to prove it now!!! But I can say I did attend a 2 day CCNA bootcamp. My company was going to send me for training, but it had to be on a weekend... thus the boot camp. I basically was going to see what kind of routers I should get for my own lab, and to play with them first hand. Now I was going to give the guy a chance, but wasnt really optimistic on the idea Well, Was I surprised. The knowledge from the instructor was great, and answered alot of questions, he also stayed late each day to let us play on the routers etc...and ask questions as much as we wanted... He also showed up early in case we had more questions after going over everything that night before... I would have to say I would give this guy 2 thumbs up!!! The company was IT Mentor www.itmentor.com now they do have a CCNP bootcamp, but its only held in California, but you have access all day and night to their extensive lab!!! So big bonuses!! Daniel Altbaum was the instructor, (sorry if I butchered the name) he also does tech editing for Cisco press... - Original Message - From: Sites, Bob To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:02 AM Subject: ccnp bootcamp [7:14356] > Does anyone have first hand experience with these bootcamps that could share > their opinion with me? I was looking at ccprep.com's 12 day course seriously > until I called their 877 number and the phone system their doesn't work > properly. I am in the Virginia area and would appreciate any > recommendations. Willing to travel to training. > > Bob Sites > System Engineer > Valley Health System, IS Dept. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Confidentiality Notice: > > This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the > intended recipients and may contain confidential and privileged information. > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If > you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply > e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14360&t=14356 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
checkpoint list? [7:14359]
Sorry, off topic -- Does anyone know of a list like this for Checkpoint? Thanks for your help, Rob Provost Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14359&t=14359 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ccnp bootcamp [7:14356]
Does anyone have first hand experience with these bootcamps that could share their opinion with me? I was looking at ccprep.com's 12 day course seriously until I called their 877 number and the phone system their doesn't work properly. I am in the Virginia area and would appreciate any recommendations. Willing to travel to training. Bob Sites System Engineer Valley Health System, IS Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14356&t=14356 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: about avocent [7:14341]
They specialize with KVM solutions. They were actually Cybex, or bought them. ""gary gary"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > hello folks: > >anyone know the company called avocent.what buinese > field the company focus on? anyone can give me some > tips,thanks!Is it good company? > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14355&t=14341 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
