CCIE Written Question [7:28259]

2001-12-05 Thread Hunt Lee

I want to start studying for the CCIE written exam, just wondering what
books should I buy / read for this?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,
Hunt Lee
IP Solution Analyst
Cable & Wireless




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enquiry on 5505 switch optical fibre port [7:28258]

2001-12-05 Thread Sim, CT (Chee Tong)

Hi... I have a 5505 catalyst switch, there are two supervisor on its
module/slot 1 and 2.  Module 1's is in ok status and module 2 is standby
status.   There are two optical fibre port on each of the supervisor module,
and the two optical fibre port on the module 1 is connected to another 2 X
5505 catalyst switches and another two optical ports on the standby is left
unconnected.  

My question is
1)I want to connect the 5505 switch with another 2X catalyst 3660 switch via
the two optical port on the standy module, is that okay, or we need to buy
another supervisor module?

2)When I type "show module 2", why I can't see the two optical fibre status?


3)If we want to add on more supervisor module, what should we do? Just slot
in??

Thanks in advance



Cat55-L8-1> sh module
Mod Slot Ports Module-Type   Model   Status
---  - - --- 
1   12 1000BaseSX Supervisor WS-X5534ok
2   22 1000BaseSX Supervisor WS-X5534standby
3   32410/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X5225R   ok
4   41 Route Switch  WS-X5302ok
5   52410/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X5225R   ok

Mod Module-Name Serial-Num
--- --- 
1   00012751856
2   00012741455
3   00013370887
4   00013353225
5   00012786062

Mod MAC-Address(es)Hw Fw Sw
--- -- -- --
-
1   00-d0-06-3e-0c-00 to 00-d0-06-3e-0f-ff 3.23.1.2  5.1(1)
2   00-d0-06-3e-0c-00 to 00-d0-06-3e-0f-ff 3.23.1.2  5.1(1)
3   00-50-0f-b7-2e-58 to 00-50-0f-b7-2e-6f 3.14.3(1) 5.1(1)
4   00-e0-1e-92-72-c8 to 00-e0-1e-92-72-c9 7.520.14  12.0(3c)W5(8),
5   00-50-0f-20-f9-a8 to 00-50-0f-20-f9-bf 3.14.3(1) 5.1(1)

Mod Sub-Type Sub-Model Sub-Serial Sub-Hw
---  - -- --
1   EARL 1+  WS-F5520  0012736730 1.1
1   uplink   WS-U5534F 0012779546 1.0
2   EARL 1+  WS-F5520  0011446300 1.1
2   uplink   WS-U5534F 0012779657 1.0
Cat55-L8-1>

Cat55-L8-1> sh module 1
Mod Slot Ports Module-Type   Model   Status
---  - - --- 
1   12 1000BaseSX Supervisor WS-X5534ok

Mod Module-Name Serial-Num
--- --- 
1   00012751856

Mod MAC-Address(es)Hw Fw Sw
--- -- -- --
-
1   00-d0-06-3e-0c-00 to 00-d0-06-3e-0f-ff 3.23.1.2  5.1(1)

Mod Sub-Type Sub-Model Sub-Serial Sub-Hw
---  - -- --
1   EARL 1+  WS-F5520  0012736730 1.1
1   uplink   WS-U5534F 0012779546 1.0

Cat55-L8-1> sh module 2
Mod Slot Ports Module-Type   Model   Status
---  - - --- 
2   22 1000BaseSX Supervisor WS-X5534standby

Mod Module-Name Serial-Num
--- --- 
2   00012741455

Mod MAC-Address(es)Hw Fw Sw
--- -- -- --
-
2   00-d0-06-3e-0c-00 to 00-d0-06-3e-0f-ff 3.23.1.2  5.1(1)

Mod Sub-Type Sub-Model Sub-Serial Sub-Hw
---  - -- --
2   EARL 1+  WS-F5520  0011446300 1.1
2   uplink   WS-U5534F 0012779657 1.0
Cat55-L8-1>

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ISDN DDR Question [7:28257]

2001-12-05 Thread Sam Deckert

hey all,

just wondering if anyone knows how to extend the amount of time it takes
before the second channel comes down after the traffic level drops below the
load threshold, when using multilink isdn with 2 channels?

Any help would be great!!




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Re: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]

2001-12-05 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Hi All,
>This is my first email on groupstudy mailing list! i
>will be giving BCRAN this weekend! i have read the
>book of BCRAN - Cisco Press! also did some practice of
>BOSON! now i need some latest Dumps of BCRAN, if
>available anywhere pls. do let me know!
>B'Rgds,
>SAJ

In networks, braindumps are rather dangerous.  If your brain is 
equipped with a GigE interface, and you only have 32K of RAM, dumping 
the course into it can cause a rather messy explosion.

Understanding, however, takes place in your NVRAM, which, 
surprisingly, has mich more capacity than a Cisco NVRAM. It is far 
wiser to load it with the necessary IOS information.  If you feel you 
need a dump to pass the test AND present yourself as someone 
qualified to get a job in this economy, you had best postpone the 
exam and study some more.




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Any information about Networkforce? [7:28254]

2001-12-05 Thread Mohammed Nabelsi

Hi all,

Does anybody have any experience with NetworkForce?
Appreciate your input!
Thank you




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Re: VPN [7:21120]

2001-12-05 Thread Ramesh c

Hi corness,

Thanks fer your earlier replies



My setup as follows..

  
pvt network-RouterInternet-Pixpvt network

I want to do a VPN between the private networks using ipsec.I am concerned
with router side.The s0 (10.1.0.1/24) of router is connected to pvt network
and e0(210.11.3.1/24) to internet.

I do the following on my router

access-list 101 permit 10.1.0.0 255.255.255.0 172.1.0.0 255.255.255.255
crypto ipsec transform-set set1 esp-des esp-sha-hmac
crypto map vpn 10 ipsec-isakmp
crypto map vpn 10 match-address 101
crypto map vpn set peer 210.14.7.2
crypto map vpn set transform-set set1

isakmp enable e0
isakmp policy 20
isakmp policy 20 encryption des
isakmp policy 20 hash md5
isakmp policy 20 authentication rsa-sig
isakmp policy 20 group 1

interface e0
crypto map vpn

My questions...

1)What kind of static route should I add?(I want only 10.1.0.0 to talk to
172.1.0.0 and vice versa using vpn.Rest all denied)

2)Do I need this if I don`t use nat on my router?
route-map nonat permit 10
  match ip address 130

3)Will this access list help me with security((i.e)except for 172.1.0.0 all
other network cannot reach pvt network)?

access_list 140 permit ip 172.1.0.0 0.0.0.0 any
access_list 140 deny ip any any
acl_group 140 e0 out 

cheers
Ramesh




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VPN/Frame redundant connection(2) [7:28255]

2001-12-05 Thread user true

Hi All...

I have been put into a project where someone else pitched a solution to
implement a redundant connection over a dedicated private line (56K) and a
VPN internet connection (frac T1).  the hardware are 2 cisco 2611 routers
with the 2 ethernet interfaces, 2 watchguard firebox 1000's, and some
equipment for the private frame (already has CSU and RJ45 cable to hook up
directly to ethernet interface on router).  The internet connection is a
fractional T1 on each side and as stated before 2 watchguard firewalls.

The sides would be addressed like 172.16.x.x/16 and 172.17.x.x/16 and they
were given this solution by someone who has since bailed on them after
getting the equipment.

What I am looking for is what is the easiest way to implement a solution
that would allow the VPN connection to be the preferred route, but also
allow the private frame to pick-up if they internet connection should become
latent or go down.  It could grind along slowly, but would function.

I was just curious if anyone has gotten this type of solution to work with a
watchguard in the middle?  I was thinking of using something easy like
EIGRP, but am a little miffed by how exactly to make this work across the
VPN and the Frame at once

-|x|--- private frame (56K)--
|   |
|router|---|watchguard|---(internet)---|watchguard|--|router|
   (switch)   (swtich)   
172.16.x.x/16   172.17.x.x/16

Just tried to show the 2 interfaces and the initial configuration of how the
person before had it setup.

What does anyone see as the best way to make this work reliably?

Thanks,
   


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Re: Channelized E1 termination from MUX [7:28178]

2001-12-05 Thread Vijendra Jaiswal

Hello Mark ,

Your are right abt the framing ,line code and clock .
There are 04 Leds on the card 1) Remote alarm , 2) Local alarm ,3) Local
loopback , 4) Carrier Detect .
Right now i am getting local alarm .My main question was that if  loop is
given on the E1 (physical loop) then should the local alarm led should stop
glowing ?

Thanks & Regards,
Vijendra.



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> Verify Framing, Line Code, and Clock Source parameters with Telco, as it
> looks like you have a mis-match on those settings.
> Loss of Frames indicates that your Framing or Line code parameters don't
> match what the telco has set on their end, but it also might just be the
> Clock Source parameter being incorrectly set.
>
> Let us know if that fixes your problem.
>
> Mark Odette II
> StellarConnection Services
> CCNA, 3/4 CCNP, etc., etc.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Vijendra Jaiswal
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 6:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Channelized E1 terminatin from MUX [7:28178]
>
>
> Hello ,
>
> We are using channelized E1 on a PRI card of cisco3600 , for multiple 64K
> ckts coming from a MUX  which is placed at the TELCO .
>
> 1) Is it possible to get a loop on the channelized PRI controller( show
> controller e1)  by giving a 4 wire physical loop ? I did not get the loop
on
> the E1 controller of cisco router , by giving a four wire loop or by
taking
> a loop from TELCO . Loop is ok if tested on BERT meter .
> 2) All connectivity/media is ok but the TELCO person observes an alarm on
> the MUX when the channelized E1 is terminated at the Cisco PRI card on a
> 3600 router.
> 3) The o/p of the controller is given below :
>
> show controllers e1 1/0
> E1 1/0 is down.
>   Applique type is Channelized E1 - balanced
>   Transmitter is sending remote alarm.
>   Receiver has loss of signal.
>   alarm-trigger is not set
>   Framing is NO-CRC4, Line Code is HDB3, Clock Source is Internal.
>   Data in current interval (29 seconds elapsed):
>  0 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations
>  0 Slip Secs, 29 Fr Loss Secs, 0 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded Mins
>  0 Errored Secs, 0 Bursty Err Secs, 0 Severely Err Secs, 29 Unavail
Secs
>   Data in Interval 1:
>  1 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations
>  0 Slip Secs, 827 Fr Loss Secs, 1 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded Mins
> ...
>
>
> If anyone knows how to resolve this pls help me out.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Vijendra.




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VPN/Frame redundant connection? [7:28252]

2001-12-05 Thread user true

Hi All...

I have been put into a project where someone else pitched a solution to
implement a redundant connection over a dedicated private line (56K) and a
VPN internet connection (frac T1).  the hardware are 2 cisco 2611 routers
with the 2 ethernet interfaces, 2 watchguard firebox 1000's, and some
equipment for the private frame (already has CSU and RJ45 cable to hook up
directly to ethernet interface on router).  The internet connection is a
fractional T1 on each side and as stated before 2 watchguard firewalls.

The sides would be addressed like 172.16.x.x/16 and 172.17.x.x/16 and they
were given this solution by someone who has since bailed on them after
getting the equipment.

What I am looking for is what is the easiest way to implement a solution
that would allow the VPN connection to be the preferred route, but also
allow the private frame to pick-up if they internet connection should become
latent or go down.  It could grind along slowly, but would function.

I was just curious if anyone has gotten this type of solution to work with a
watchguard in the middle?  I was thinking of using something easy like
EIGRP, but am a little miffed by how exactly to make this work across the
VPN and the Frame at once

|router|---|watchguard|---internet---|watchguard|---|router|
|



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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-05 Thread PacketEXPERTS

What's up and what is the DEAL?
  Jason  wrote: I would toss out names but I believe that the groupstudy
server filter any
messages with the seller name... They still owe me more than US$1000 and has
refuse to answer my calls cliaming that I slander them and that their
lawyers will contact me. I'm still waiting and I'm still going to continue
to "slander" them until their pay me back the money. It has been a good 8
months since they agree to return the money. I don't expect to see it soon
and I'm still waiting for the lawyers call and in fact, left my contact
number , etc a couple of times in case they don't have it...

Feel free to email me offline and I'll be glad to provide the details. I'm
just sooo busy at the moment, else I'll "slander" them further on all the
related usenet groups. Maybe I'll get around to doing it this Christmas as a
present. Oh yeah, they do sell under a lot of different names in eBay. I
got about a dozen of emails cliaming similar type of fraud, complaints to
BBB doesn't do anything except a promise from BBB to file up the complaints
on them for record. In case anybody is wondering , it is GStore or
www.iq.com .


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> Why not start posting names of sellers that are good to work with? I would
> imagine it would get away from the possible slander threats. I will toss
out
> three names that I deal with on a regular basis and have zero complaints.
> All have gone a bit beyond the normal in several cases.
>
> Quadrasource ( bigpeach) in Tustin CA.. they also do walk up sales..
Classic
> store front with stuff spilling out of the back ;)
>
> Comstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I gave him a call to pay for a Cat5000 and
> mentioned it was for my lab. The pic showed empty slots.. no covers except
> for the filled slots. The cat showed up 2 days later with ALL covers in
> place. Nice guy :)
>
> Lassongdl I have bought three times from him and each has been trouble
free.
> And he is responsive to email even after the sale. I had a problem with a
> card that ended up being a dirty connector but he was willing right away
to
> help or replace the card if needed.
>
> Now- I have NO stake in any of these companies aside from the money I send
> them for more cisco parts :) I've just had very good luck with them on MY
> purchases.. no claims are made beyond that.
>
> MikeS
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RE: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]

2001-12-05 Thread Buck Langley

(entering the pearly gates of flame)

You know, I rarely post on this board for one main reason. I exhaust all my
resources beforehand, which includes seaching the forum board.
What really makes you think that I would want you to just go get the
"answers" to the test when so many people, including myself, work so hard to
truly understand network technology? What really gets me is why you would
post asking for braindumps here? Can you use a search engine? I would think
it would be that tuff to find them.

Maybe I'm being harsh and taking the wrong attitude, Alex was very
professional in his statement and made his point. I just feel that if people
are passing certifications without understanding what is happening in what
they are studying and just using braindumps, it degrades the cert for all
others. I take pride in being able to go into an interview and asking, "what
kind of issues are you having on your network?,do you have a test lab that I
could perform some taks for you?"
I am more than willing to setup, configure or troubleshoot for an interview.
I don't know everything, in fact far from it(real far :o)). But if I don't
have the answer, I would like my possible employer to see how I utilize my
resources to find the answer, find it efficiently and my thought process in
seeking solutions and troubleshooting problems that arise.
BrainDumps will not give you that confidence. Only, good hard studying and
hands on hacking experience (and a little patience with your studies. (END
RANT)

B.


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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-05 Thread PacketEXPERTS

What's up and what is the DEAL?
  Jason  wrote: I would toss out names but I believe that the groupstudy
server filter any
messages with the seller name... They still owe me more than US$1000 and has
refuse to answer my calls cliaming that I slander them and that their
lawyers will contact me. I'm still waiting and I'm still going to continue
to "slander" them until their pay me back the money. It has been a good 8
months since they agree to return the money. I don't expect to see it soon
and I'm still waiting for the lawyers call and in fact, left my contact
number , etc a couple of times in case they don't have it...

Feel free to email me offline and I'll be glad to provide the details. I'm
just sooo busy at the moment, else I'll "slander" them further on all the
related usenet groups. Maybe I'll get around to doing it this Christmas as a
present. Oh yeah, they do sell under a lot of different names in eBay. I
got about a dozen of emails cliaming similar type of fraud, complaints to
BBB doesn't do anything except a promise from BBB to file up the complaints
on them for record. In case anybody is wondering , it is GStore or
www.iq.com .


""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Why not start posting names of sellers that are good to work with? I would
> imagine it would get away from the possible slander threats. I will toss
out
> three names that I deal with on a regular basis and have zero complaints.
> All have gone a bit beyond the normal in several cases.
>
> Quadrasource ( bigpeach) in Tustin CA.. they also do walk up sales..
Classic
> store front with stuff spilling out of the back ;)
>
> Comstar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I gave him a call to pay for a Cat5000 and
> mentioned it was for my lab. The pic showed empty slots.. no covers except
> for the filled slots. The cat showed up 2 days later with ALL covers in
> place. Nice guy :)
>
> Lassongdl I have bought three times from him and each has been trouble
free.
> And he is responsive to email even after the sale. I had a problem with a
> card that ended up being a dirty connector but he was willing right away
to
> help or replace the card if needed.
>
> Now- I have NO stake in any of these companies aside from the money I send
> them for more cisco parts :) I've just had very good luck with them on MY
> purchases.. no claims are made beyond that.
>
> MikeS
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RE: Re[6]: VPN is a Backdoor !!! [7:27725]

2001-12-05 Thread Chuck Larrieu

it is always fun to watch customers' eyes glaze over as you talk to them
about exactly this kind of stuff. it is far easier for management to fire
their CTO for a security breach than it is to enforce policy violated by
their big producers and powerful cronies in the management suite.

alas, the problem is indeed insoluble. for obvious reasons, VPN's are
growing like crazy. I probably talk to two or three customers a week who
want to set one up. hell, I wish my employer would set one up, because ISDN
RAS is such a pain.

one interesting solution I heard was to require two partitions on the hard
drive. One partition boots to the VPN, the other to normal use. completely
separate OS installations on both, so that if the non VPN partition is
compromised, it still does not effect the other. anyone heard of this or
doing it now? any comments?

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Kent Hundley
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 7:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Re[6]: VPN is a Backdoor !!! [7:27725]


Right, but this again assumes that the user is not going to do something
silly like, oh, use their own ISP some of the time because you are blocking
and/or logging all the "interesting" sites on the Internet they want to use.
They connect through a local ISP, go to the chat rooms, get some new
software and presto, their machine has a nasty virus/worm/trojan.  That
nicely designed, expensive VPN cannot stop this.

I understand perfectly that there are VPN technologies that can pretty
sucessfully ensure that an uncompromised machine stays uncompromised, _just
as long as the user does what they are supposed to do_. (i.e. only connect
to the Internet through the methods you have setup)  However, I say again
the problem is that users behave in silly, erratic and unsafe ways and this
is the problem that VPN's cannot solve in and of themselves.

You can mitigate this through policies, procedures and various lockdown
mechanisms on the machines used to access your VPN, but the issue is still
going to be there. (what one person designs, another person can circumvent)
Securing the endpoints is difficult because of the humans that use them.
Getting the VPN built is the easy part.  Getting humans to use it
"correctly" is where the problems arise.

-Kent



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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:44 AM
To: Kent Hundley
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[6]: VPN is a Backdoor !!! [7:27725]



I try to explain what I mean :

You have a mobile user who uses your VPN. You have an L2TP or Layer 3
transport agreement some of the ISPs (exp : AT&T)
Now if your user call ISP which has an agreement with you, this user
transported to you. And you authenticate again (if you want) than give
him/her an IP. At this point they don't have any internet connection.
After authenticate (or not) your mobile user, you give some
restrictions to their. ( they can use some of your servers or not;
they can access internet via you or not, etc.)
Now if you give them "internet connection access permit", they have to
access internet over your main gateway. This mean; if any hacker want
to put Backdoor ob your mobile users via the internet, they must
bypass your main gateway. If they can bypass your main gateway, there is
another problem, but this is not a VPN problem.

Monday, December 03, 2001, 8:29:59 PM, you wrote:

KH> Not sure what you mean by this.  The VPN technology used is irrelevant.
If
KH> I have a home user who uses their laptop to access the Internet, there
are
KH> various ways that machine could become compromised.  If that user then
KH> attaches to the VPN, I have a machine on my VPN that is compromised.  It
KH> doesn't matter what the method of VPN is (L2TP with IPsec, PPTP, etc),
it's
KH> not going to keep a compromised machine from continuing to be
compromised.

KH> All the VPN can do is keep a non-compromised machine from becoming
KH> compromised through the VPN.  If the machine is compromised before it
KH> connects to the VPN, no amount of VPN technology is going to help.

KH> This issue is not solvable through VPN technology because it isn't a VPN
KH> problem.  It's an end-station access control problem.  At the end of the
KH> day, if your users are allowed to completely control their own machines,
the
KH> liklihood that someones machine will be compromised approaches 1.0. (in
KH> other words, certainty)  This risk can be mitigated through various
software
KH> and poliices, but it cannot be eliminated.
KH> -Kent

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RE: Can Pix support Email spamming [7:28163]

2001-12-05 Thread Chuck Larrieu

perhaps you should be looking at patching the holes in your mail server
application? it seems to me that if you have become a relay for some
spammer, that looking to your firewall to solve the problem is a bit naive.
the fortress has been breached, so to speak.

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Yes, people using my mail server to spam other people or sending bulk or
continuous messages to my outlook clients.

fahim
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> Hi group,
> I have a exchange server residing on the inside interface, How can i
protect
> spamming on pix. Does pix protect email spamming, I know that there is a
> command in Cisco IOS firewall feature set its
> ip audit smtp spam.. but to what extent it protects. any inputs, I have
> searched cisco.com, there is no page giving me the answer.
> thanks
> fahim
> ccna, ccda, css1




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RE: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :-< [7:28142]

2001-12-05 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Let me clarify a bit here. I am quite impressed with the new format. I was
not impressed by my performance, but I believe the one day lab is a more
comprehensive and more difficult test than the two day.

I look forward to my next encounter, set for June 16, 2002. I see from the
scheduling tool that a lot of dates seem to open up at the last minute, and
I want to get back in no later than the end of April.

Chuck


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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 7:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :-< [7:28142]


Chuck, I can read the frustration in your post...I feel your pain.  I have
to say I am surprised to hear that your experience with the new lab was not
a good one.  If there is anybody I would say that about, it is you.

I hope you are planning a vacation from Cisco.  Certainly you are tired.  A
rested mind will make the choice to take the lab again (and take no
prisoners).  A rested mind will identify the objectives more clearly.  And
of course a rested mind will focus, comprehend and retain the required
information more completely.

Keep up the good work dude!

Rik

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :-< [7:28142]


I wish I could say it took so long to get my results back because my
excruciatingly sophisticated solutions to the problems presented required
detailed and intimate analysis. Alas, that was not the case.

For those ninnies who complain that the one day lab devalues the process,
all I can say is WRONG! The lab I saw was far more difficult than I remember
from my previous attempt, and my previous attempt was NOT easy. In my first
attempt, I did not see anything I couldn't do. This time, although FAR
better prepared, I saw LOTS of things I couldn't do. IMHO, the one day
format, with the elimination of the monkey tasks, allows Cisco to demand a
lot more. The 26 points previously allocated to terminal server setup,
cabling, and troubleshooting all go someplace. WOW! The places they went!
Previous topics that were glossed over appeared in depth. Cisco continues to
up the ante, and not always in ways one might expect. Some things I wouldn't
have expected were there in spades. Probably THE major factor continues to
be reachability. If you don't understand the implications of the given
network topology, and given interactions, you will be screwed.

The topology presented was interesting. Amazing what one can do on a six
router / two switch pod to wreak havoc and let you know what an idiot you
are. Devious doesn't begin to describe it. Bootcamp and IPExpert - it ain't
the number of routers, boys!

The e-mail feedback is amusing, but not particularly informative. I failed
with a score greater than 20, meaning I can go back in 30 days for more
humiliation, if I so desire. the breakdown percentages ( not scores ) would
be of more interest if I were sitting with the proctor discussing the whys
and the expectations. Otherwise it does me no god at all. for example, I
solved a particular problem doing something a particular way. It worked just
fine in terms of the results. Yet on that section I scored very poorly. What
were they looking for?

Fat fingers are still the major enemy for me, at least. It's no fun fat
fingering on a Cat 5K. Not by any means. It also helps to be certain layer
two stuff is done correctly.

Well, debriefing will be fun. I have the topology duplicated in my home lab,
and I will "enjoy" analyzing the problems I saw in the real lab. No you
can't telnet in to look. DON'T ASK!

In terms of seating, it appears to me that there are now more racks in the
lab, in San Jose, anyway. Half the seats are taken by those testing. The
other half seem to be those used the previous day. the proctors crank
through the idle racks, grading the previous day's results.

One last thing. I know what CCO says, and I know what IOS I saw on my rack.
Rats. The advertised IOS would have gone a long way towards eliminating a
particular problem I had. Not complaining, because any CCIE should have been
able to solve the particular puzzle no matter what the IOS involved. Just
observing that some things are still in the process of change.

The proctors are still the good folks I remember from last time. Too bad we
are not given the opportunity for more interaction afterwards. I would
really have enjoyed discussing my results.

Whelp, another time.

Chuck




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RE: IOS ver 12.1(7) or higher [7:28241]

2001-12-05 Thread Feargal Ledwidge

Try www.cisco.com

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Appreciate if anyone could show me where can I find & download the Cisco IOS
12.1(7) or higher release version.

I need it urgently for the use of configuring Dialer Watch feature.
I am using Cisco 2620 router.

Thks.
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Re: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]

2001-12-05 Thread Alex

I have taken the BCRAN on last week.  I have got questions which ask you to
select the router, Wan method for a situation--most ambigous part !.  Select
the correct command from a pool of commands - more than 10 questions, one
question requires me to type the correct command from memory.  Others are
just the theories, Wan standard. You will know them if  you understand
the whole book since I also used ciscopress book to study
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> will be giving BCRAN this weekend! i have read the
> book of BCRAN - Cisco Press! also did some practice of
> BOSON! now i need some latest Dumps of BCRAN, if
> available anywhere pls. do let me know!
> B'Rgds,
> SAJ
>
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RE: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :-< [7:28142]

2001-12-05 Thread Rik Guyler

Chuck, I can read the frustration in your post...I feel your pain.  I have
to say I am surprised to hear that your experience with the new lab was not
a good one.  If there is anybody I would say that about, it is you.  

I hope you are planning a vacation from Cisco.  Certainly you are tired.  A
rested mind will make the choice to take the lab again (and take no
prisoners).  A rested mind will identify the objectives more clearly.  And
of course a rested mind will focus, comprehend and retain the required
information more completely.

Keep up the good work dude!

Rik

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :-< [7:28142]


I wish I could say it took so long to get my results back because my
excruciatingly sophisticated solutions to the problems presented required
detailed and intimate analysis. Alas, that was not the case.

For those ninnies who complain that the one day lab devalues the process,
all I can say is WRONG! The lab I saw was far more difficult than I remember
from my previous attempt, and my previous attempt was NOT easy. In my first
attempt, I did not see anything I couldn't do. This time, although FAR
better prepared, I saw LOTS of things I couldn't do. IMHO, the one day
format, with the elimination of the monkey tasks, allows Cisco to demand a
lot more. The 26 points previously allocated to terminal server setup,
cabling, and troubleshooting all go someplace. WOW! The places they went!
Previous topics that were glossed over appeared in depth. Cisco continues to
up the ante, and not always in ways one might expect. Some things I wouldn't
have expected were there in spades. Probably THE major factor continues to
be reachability. If you don't understand the implications of the given
network topology, and given interactions, you will be screwed.

The topology presented was interesting. Amazing what one can do on a six
router / two switch pod to wreak havoc and let you know what an idiot you
are. Devious doesn't begin to describe it. Bootcamp and IPExpert - it ain't
the number of routers, boys!

The e-mail feedback is amusing, but not particularly informative. I failed
with a score greater than 20, meaning I can go back in 30 days for more
humiliation, if I so desire. the breakdown percentages ( not scores ) would
be of more interest if I were sitting with the proctor discussing the whys
and the expectations. Otherwise it does me no god at all. for example, I
solved a particular problem doing something a particular way. It worked just
fine in terms of the results. Yet on that section I scored very poorly. What
were they looking for?

Fat fingers are still the major enemy for me, at least. It's no fun fat
fingering on a Cat 5K. Not by any means. It also helps to be certain layer
two stuff is done correctly.

Well, debriefing will be fun. I have the topology duplicated in my home lab,
and I will "enjoy" analyzing the problems I saw in the real lab. No you
can't telnet in to look. DON'T ASK!

In terms of seating, it appears to me that there are now more racks in the
lab, in San Jose, anyway. Half the seats are taken by those testing. The
other half seem to be those used the previous day. the proctors crank
through the idle racks, grading the previous day's results.

One last thing. I know what CCO says, and I know what IOS I saw on my rack.
Rats. The advertised IOS would have gone a long way towards eliminating a
particular problem I had. Not complaining, because any CCIE should have been
able to solve the particular puzzle no matter what the IOS involved. Just
observing that some things are still in the process of change.

The proctors are still the good folks I remember from last time. Too bad we
are not given the opportunity for more interaction afterwards. I would
really have enjoyed discussing my results.

Whelp, another time.

Chuck




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EMC Experience-clearance a plus [7:28243]

2001-12-05 Thread Margareth Babbington

System Engineer

Integrated Data Corporation (IDC) was founded in 1986.  The company's goal
is to provide clientele with technical expertise in the analysis, design and
implementation of large, mission critical advanced information systems.



Currently, we are seeking a full time Systems Engineers experienced with HP,
SUN, IBM, EMC and networking.



Position Requirements / Description

Experienced Systems Engineer with strong background in system architecture,
systems integration, networking. Ability to communicate effectively with
customers is mandatory.  This position requires the candidate to do the
following:
7 Utilize strong customer interface skills to gather requirements, architect
an appropriate solution, and establish an implementation plan

7 Perform technical hands-on integration of various products mentioned
below.
7 Produce documentation and provide knowledge transfers to customers.
7 Top Secret Security Clearance is a huge plus

7 Ability to travel nationally and internationally a definite
plus




A minimum of 3 years experience with one or two of the following computing
platforms is required:

7 Sun/Solaris

7 HP / HP-UX

7 IBM / AIX

7 Windows NT

7 Oracle

7 Exchange



Experience with other technologies include:

7 EMC Symmetrix, Connectrix, or CLARiiON
o SRDF
o Timefinder
o Powerpath
o Control Center
o SDDR
o Navisphere


7 High Availability, Backup and recovery solutions including;
o Veritas Netbackup, and /or
o Disaster Recovery experience
o Shell Scripting
o Storage Area Networking experience (Fibre Channel switches, hubs, etc.)
o Enterprise class data center operations experience (procedures,
management, reporting, etc.)
o Database skills





Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
Please, no phone calls about this job!
Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or
commercial interests.

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IOS ver 12.1(7) or higher [7:28241]

2001-12-05 Thread Anthony Toh

Appreciate if anyone could show me where can I find & download the Cisco IOS
12.1(7) or higher release version.

I need it urgently for the use of configuring Dialer Watch feature.
I am using Cisco 2620 router.

Thks.


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Boson CCDA test? [7:28240]

2001-12-05 Thread Jim Newton

I have a friend getting ready to test for this, which test do people
recommend these days?




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Someone want to have a second [7:28238]

2001-12-05 Thread xihan Wang

Is there anyone here want to have Recert or Second CCIE test ? i am
interesting in CCIE security.
contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]

2001-12-05 Thread Sean Knox

(opens Flame Gates)

-Original Message-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]


Hi All,
This is my first email on groupstudy mailing list! i
will be giving BCRAN this weekend! i have read the
book of BCRAN - Cisco Press! also did some practice of
BOSON! now i need some latest Dumps of BCRAN, if
available anywhere pls. do let me know!
B'Rgds,
SAJ

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RE: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]

2001-12-05 Thread Mensah, James

www.cisco.com

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]


Hi All,
This is my first email on groupstudy mailing list! i
will be giving BCRAN this weekend! i have read the
book of BCRAN - Cisco Press! also did some practice of
BOSON! now i need some latest Dumps of BCRAN, if
available anywhere pls. do let me know!
B'Rgds,
SAJ

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Need BCRAN latest Dumps! [7:28236]

2001-12-05 Thread SA J

Hi All,
This is my first email on groupstudy mailing list! i
will be giving BCRAN this weekend! i have read the
book of BCRAN - Cisco Press! also did some practice of
BOSON! now i need some latest Dumps of BCRAN, if
available anywhere pls. do let me know!
B'Rgds,
SAJ

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Queue counters and fast cache [7:28235]

2001-12-05 Thread Steve Ridder

I have also been told that you cannot view your queue when fast-switching is
turned on, and only can when process-switching is on.  I highly doubt it,
but maybe it's true.  Is it?  I can't see a relationship between the two,
but maybe it's true.

Steve




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Re: 2 priority queues [7:28227]

2001-12-05 Thread Steve Ridder

It definitly works, but I've always been told to use 1 priority queue for
voice, then CBQ the SNA and video and WFQ with WRED on the rest.

They say voice is most important because it has the highest human
perception, and humans will notice bad voice before bad video.

Steve


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> I can immediately think of one example.  Let's say you have a T-1 access
> link with multiple data types that include VoIP and video conferencing.
> You want to make sure that VoIP traffic gets its own priority queue, so
> let's say you give it 384k.  You then want to give the video
> conferencing traffic another priority queue because it's such a
> high-visibility technology, so you allow it to use another 384k.
>
> This would leave roughly half of the link available for other data
> types during periods of congestion while making sure your high priority
> applications (pun intended) do not drop packets and have the lowest
> latency possible on that link.
>
> I will be attempting exactly this sometime next year when we roll out
> VoIP to a branch that already has video conferencing.  To make matters
> more interesting, this is on a frame relay link, not a point-to-point
> link.  Lotsa fun!
>
> I had heard, though, that only one priority statement was possible.
> You're saying that you successfully used two?  That's good news for me,
> I was starting to get worried.  I'd be interested to find out if it
> truly behaved as expected when experiencing congestion.  If you test
> this out, please let us know what you find.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> >>> "VoIP Guy"  12/5/01 1:51:13 PM >>>
> Has anyone ever seen 2 priority queue's in LLQ?  What would be the
> reason
> and how would those 2 get serviced?  Round Robin?  FIFO?  It does work
> beucasue I just saw it on a config and tried it myself, but can't
> figure out
> why they did it.
>
> Steve




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RE: AS2511 Configuration [7:28152]

2001-12-05 Thread Nahshon Makajil

Thanks Mikes


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Re: Can Pix support Email spamming [7:28163]

2001-12-05 Thread fahim

Yes, people using my mail server to spam other people or sending bulk or
continuous messages to my outlook clients.

fahim
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> Hi group,
> I have a exchange server residing on the inside interface, How can i
protect
> spamming on pix. Does pix protect email spamming, I know that there is a
> command in Cisco IOS firewall feature set its
> ip audit smtp spam.. but to what extent it protects. any inputs, I have
> searched cisco.com, there is no page giving me the answer.
> thanks
> fahim
> ccna, ccda, css1




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Re: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread nettable_walker

12/5/2001   5:20pm  Wednesday


IT  IS A THING OF BEAUTY

Easy E,  Did you see this ?


Richard

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> StarWars episode IV in text mode:
>
>  telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl




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RE: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread Tel Khan

Pretty cool


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Re: 2 priority queues [7:28227]

2001-12-05 Thread John Neiberger

I can immediately think of one example.  Let's say you have a T-1 access
link with multiple data types that include VoIP and video conferencing. 
You want to make sure that VoIP traffic gets its own priority queue, so
let's say you give it 384k.  You then want to give the video
conferencing traffic another priority queue because it's such a
high-visibility technology, so you allow it to use another 384k.  

This would leave roughly half of the link available for other data
types during periods of congestion while making sure your high priority
applications (pun intended) do not drop packets and have the lowest
latency possible on that link.

I will be attempting exactly this sometime next year when we roll out
VoIP to a branch that already has video conferencing.  To make matters
more interesting, this is on a frame relay link, not a point-to-point
link.  Lotsa fun!

I had heard, though, that only one priority statement was possible. 
You're saying that you successfully used two?  That's good news for me,
I was starting to get worried.  I'd be interested to find out if it
truly behaved as expected when experiencing congestion.  If you test
this out, please let us know what you find.

Regards,
John

>>> "VoIP Guy"  12/5/01 1:51:13 PM >>>
Has anyone ever seen 2 priority queue's in LLQ?  What would be the
reason
and how would those 2 get serviced?  Round Robin?  FIFO?  It does work
beucasue I just saw it on a config and tried it myself, but can't
figure out
why they did it.

Steve




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Re: eigrp and isdn routing question? [7:28219]

2001-12-05 Thread MADMAN

I'm guessing you want EIGRP routing to occur over this link when it is
up but you do not want to define EIGRP as interesting.  Get rid of the
passive and add something like:

interface BRI0/0
dialer-group 1
!
access-list 101 deny eigrp any any
access-list 101 permit ip any any
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 101
 
  Dave

Bob Perez wrote:
> 
> Is ther a way that I can stop all eigrp traffic from passing on the ISDN
> when it is down and then to pass when the ISDN comes up?  I have an access
> list that denies eigrp on the BRI and the interface is set as passive in
the
> eigrp config.  But I am having routing problems when I lose my serial line
> and the ISDN comes up.  Nothing will route unless there is a hardcoded next
> hop for an address "ip route ** ** *"  I would like to somehow
> pass eigrp info over the isdn when it comes up but not when it is down? 
Can
> this be done.  I also do not want to do redistribute static because of
> default gateway issues.  Thanks.
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2 priority queues [7:28227]

2001-12-05 Thread VoIP Guy

Has anyone ever seen 2 priority queue's in LLQ?  What would be the reason
and how would those 2 get serviced?  Round Robin?  FIFO?  It does work
beucasue I just saw it on a config and tried it myself, but can't figure out
why they did it.

Steve




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RE: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread Wright, Jeremy

i personally like:
router(config)# no route-flap

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Subject: Re: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]


Yes and I found another helpful global command this morning

Router(config)#service do as i think not as i type

Dave

Bill Carter wrote:
> 
> I don't want anyone to break the NDA, but is this on the CCIE lab??  The
> trick is, you would have to use
> 
> service compress-config
> 
> ip route 1.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 R2D2
> ip route 2.2.2.0 255.255.255.0 C3PO
> 
> Router bgp 4
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 5
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 ebgp-multihop GalaxyFarFarAway
> 
> Router ospf 1
> redistribute static subnets subgalaxies
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Sasa Milic
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:51 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]
> 
> StarWars episode IV in text mode:
> 
>  telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl
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Re: Content Switches [7:28157]

2001-12-05 Thread Brant Stevens

As Howard would say, "What problem are you trying to solve?"  Trunking 
(frame-tagging, whatever...) between these switches may not be in your 
best interest...  The CSS does provide that functionality, but in my 
experience, it is buggy, and not worth implementing.  You may want to 
consider changing the design to provide a better solution...

You most certainly can use trunking (cisco-term) between a Catalyst and 
a non-Cisco switch by employing 802.1Q VLAN tagging, as opposed to ISL. 
 On the CSS, the term trunking does not refer to frame tagging. Rather, 
it is in reference to port aggregation.  I do not know if the CSS uses 
GVRP, but that is the mechanism that provides a similar function that a 
VTP domain does.

There are also several other things to consider when doing this; if you 
are using ISL or 802.1Q, by default, there is a separate instance of STP 
running for each VLAN.  There are 2 other modes of STP to consider as 
well, dependent on the code version, MISTP+, and PVST-MISTP mode.  I am 
not familiar with the latter, but I am with the former.
 
When dealing with the CSS, I believe it only supports one spanning tree 
for all the VLANs, so be aware of that when doing your planning.




Matthew Crane wrote:

>You final conclusion is correct, you cannot using VLAN tunks between a
>catalyst & other Cisco switches.
>CCB wrote:
>
>>I have a quick question about the Cisco 11000 series of content
>>switches,
>>does anyone know if the content switch is supposed to be able
>>to trunk a
>>link between the 11000 and a switch (5500,6500).  The reason
>>why I am asking
>>is I have been working with a 11000 trying to setup a trunk
>>link to provide
>>our current VLAN's in the VTP domain to the content switch and
>>I am unable
>>to get the switch (Cat6509) to recognize the trunk link, when I
>>do a "show
>>trunk detail" on the switch it shows the port as trunking, but
>>it does not
>>recognize the trunk link.  Both the Content Switch and the
>>Cat6509 are set
>>to use 802.1Q as the trunking type.  I may be mislead but from
>>everything I
>>have tried I have come to the conclusion that the interface can
>>only be
>>trunked between two content switches and not a content switch
>>to a L2/L3
>>switch.  Any information would be helpful.
>>
>>Chris




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Re: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread Sasa Milic

It's not on CCIE lab, it's on  SWIE lab. It looks that you have
to configure either:

1.
   line vty 0 4
 terminal-type ansi

or

2.
   line vty 0 4
 terminal-type xterm


I'm using xterm, working fine, but some people couldn't see it
with vt100.

Sasa



Bill Carter wrote:
> 
> I don't want anyone to break the NDA, but is this on the CCIE lab??  The
> trick is, you would have to use
> 
> service compress-config
> 
> ip route 1.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 R2D2
> ip route 2.2.2.0 255.255.255.0 C3PO
> 
> Router bgp 4
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 5
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 ebgp-multihop GalaxyFarFarAway
> 
> Router ospf 1
> redistribute static subnets subgalaxies
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Sasa Milic
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:51 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]
> 
> StarWars episode IV in text mode:
> 
>  telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl




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Re: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread MADMAN

I mean I'm not a wary, star warrior, star gazer, sci fi aficionado,
hell I don't know, I know I sometimes get cofnsued ;)

  Dave

MADMAN wrote:
> 
> I'm not in any way a trekky but was curious from all the questions.  I
> telneted to the site via teraterm and it, whatever it is, worked!!!
> 
>   Somebody has to much time...
> 
>   Dave
> 
> DAGENHARDT Frank wrote:
> >
> > Is there a certain terminal setting you need to have?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sasa Milic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:51 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]
> >
> > StarWars episode IV in text mode:
> >
> >  telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl
> --
> David Madland
> Sr. Network Engineer
> CCIE# 2016
> Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 612-664-3367
> 
> "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it"
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RE: eigrp and isdn routing question? [7:28219]

2001-12-05 Thread Jim Brown

If you deny EIGRP multicasts in the dialer-list it will prevent them from
initiating a call or keeping the line up. They will be uninteresting. and
will not cause the line to dial.

Once the line is up, all packets are fair game regardless of whether or not
they match the dialer-list. Any packet is passed over the ISDN circuit. The
dialer-list only signifies what traffic is interesting and will force a
call. 

I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for. In other words, neighbors
would only be formed when the link was up due to some other traffic defined
interesting by the dialer-list. No more interesting traffic and the link
comes down, but EIGRP will not keep the circuit up or cause a call to be
initiated..

You should probably look at the dialer-watch command for dial backup over
EIGRP. I think dialer-watch might be just what the doctor ordered.


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Subject: eigrp and isdn routing question? [7:28219]


Is ther a way that I can stop all eigrp traffic from passing on the ISDN
when it is down and then to pass when the ISDN comes up?  I have an access
list that denies eigrp on the BRI and the interface is set as passive in the
eigrp config.  But I am having routing problems when I lose my serial line
and the ISDN comes up.  Nothing will route unless there is a hardcoded next
hop for an address "ip route ** ** *"  I would like to somehow
pass eigrp info over the isdn when it comes up but not when it is down?  Can
this be done.  I also do not want to do redistribute static because of
default gateway issues.  Thanks.




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Re: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread MADMAN

Yes and I found another helpful global command this morning

Router(config)#service do as i think not as i type

Dave

Bill Carter wrote:
> 
> I don't want anyone to break the NDA, but is this on the CCIE lab??  The
> trick is, you would have to use
> 
> service compress-config
> 
> ip route 1.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 R2D2
> ip route 2.2.2.0 255.255.255.0 C3PO
> 
> Router bgp 4
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 5
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 ebgp-multihop GalaxyFarFarAway
> 
> Router ospf 1
> redistribute static subnets subgalaxies
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Sasa Milic
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:51 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]
> 
> StarWars episode IV in text mode:
> 
>  telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl
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Re: OT: Route Registries [7:28220]

2001-12-05 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>I am having a little trouble understanding route registries and their
>operation, does anyone know of a link or book that explains this in plain
>english?  Thanks.
>
>Guy H. Lupi
>NOC Engineer
>Eureka GGN
>39 Broadway, 19th Floor
>NY, NY 10006

Start with www.radb.net.

I do get into them in my WAN Survival Guide, but much more in my 
Building Service Provider Networks book coming out next year.

Also look for the Using RPSL in Practice RFC.




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Re: network simulator [7:27658]

2001-12-05 Thread Thomas Reisinger

I have never seen any commands in the IOS that can simulate an BRI ISDN
switch. Please can you submit an example config, cisco URL or a command
which can do this?

Regards

Thomas



""EA Louie""  schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> > Is there any router simulation software that I can configure to run in a
> > Frame Relay and ISDN network ?
>
> cisco routers have the ability to simulate Frame Relay switches.  The
> archives are full of examples, but www.cisco.com also has the
configurations
> in a number of places.  try searching for "frame relay switch"
>
> ISDN is a little different.  There are a few different solutions.  One
> solution is a device that has 2 ISDN BRI ports.  This is known as an ISDN
> Simulator, or ISDN Emulator.  These usually have S/T and U interfaces, and
> the cost is typically $1500, less if you shop around.  Others have had
> success in using a PBX with ISDN interfaces.  The 2600/3600 series cisco
> routers running 12.1 code has the ability to simulate ISDN BRI switching -
> note that this is a more expensive solution than the ISDN Simulator
> solution.  see
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=john+paul+morrison&hl=en&rnum=8&selm=0ZEk7
> .131740%24B37.2967002%40news1.rdc1.bc.home.com (watch the URL wrap)
>
> Depending on where you live, it may also be economical for you to just
order
> two ISDN lines for the time that you need to study ISDN.
>
> good luck in your studies
> -e-
> "That which does not kill us only makes us stronger" - Nietzsche
>
>
> _
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> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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eigrp and isdn routing question? [7:28219]

2001-12-05 Thread Bob Perez

Is ther a way that I can stop all eigrp traffic from passing on the ISDN
when it is down and then to pass when the ISDN comes up?  I have an access
list that denies eigrp on the BRI and the interface is set as passive in the
eigrp config.  But I am having routing problems when I lose my serial line
and the ISDN comes up.  Nothing will route unless there is a hardcoded next
hop for an address "ip route ** ** *"  I would like to somehow
pass eigrp info over the isdn when it comes up but not when it is down?  Can
this be done.  I also do not want to do redistribute static because of
default gateway issues.  Thanks.




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Re: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread MADMAN

I'm not in any way a trekky but was curious from all the questions.  I
telneted to the site via teraterm and it, whatever it is, worked!!!

  Somebody has to much time...

  Dave

DAGENHARDT Frank wrote:
> 
> Is there a certain terminal setting you need to have?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sasa Milic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]
> 
> StarWars episode IV in text mode:
> 
>  telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl
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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Insured by Smith & Wesson works for me :)




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RE: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread Ouellette, Tim

And the fact that I spent the couple of moments reading that makes me have
what?

probably less brain cells..

*grin*



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Someone has
way
ttoo mmuuucchhh
iiimm 
ttt
hhhnnddd
sss.

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StarWars episode IV in text mode:

 telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl




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RE: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread Bill Carter

I don't want anyone to break the NDA, but is this on the CCIE lab??  The
trick is, you would have to use

service compress-config

ip route 1.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 R2D2
ip route 2.2.2.0 255.255.255.0 C3PO

Router bgp 4
neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 5
neighbor 1.1.1.1 ebgp-multihop GalaxyFarFarAway

Router ospf 1
redistribute static subnets subgalaxies


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StarWars episode IV in text mode:

 telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl




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RE: OSPF inter-area routes calc (doyle and rfc 2328) [7:28198]

2001-12-05 Thread Elmer Deloso

By Distance-vector he means that the router receiving Type3 LSA
>From the ABR simply accepts this route advertisement by taking
Into account only the cost ( i.e. distance) to this route and the direction
(i.e.Vector via this ABR) to reach it, instead of running the SPF algorithm
As it should being a "link-state" router. Recall that this is exactly
RIP and IGRP's behaviour when it receives routing information from
It's neighbor(s).
HTH,
Elmer




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RE: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread Bill Carter

Someone has
way
ttoo mmuuucchhh
iiimm 
ttt
hhhnnddd
sss.

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StarWars episode IV in text mode:

 telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl




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RE: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread DAGENHARDT Frank

Is there a certain terminal setting you need to have?

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StarWars episode IV in text mode:

 telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl




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RE: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread Lupi, Guy

Worked fine with SecureCRT.

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Did you get it to work properly?  I tried with telnet/putty/xterm and got a
buncha gibberish maybe I'll try hyperterm.

>>> "Lupi, Guy"  12/05/01 01:20PM >>>
That's pretty cool, time consuming too I bet.

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StarWars episode IV in text mode:

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RE: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Did you get it to work properly?  I tried with telnet/putty/xterm and got a
buncha gibberish maybe I'll try hyperterm.

>>> "Lupi, Guy"  12/05/01 01:20PM >>>
That's pretty cool, time consuming too I bet.

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StarWars episode IV in text mode:

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RE: Access-list [7:28188]

2001-12-05 Thread Kent Hundley

Ramesh,

Access-lists are processed from the point of view of the router, "in" means
"in my interface" and "out" means "out my interface", so it's the opposite
of the way your viewing it.

The PIX has a default behavior of allowing all packets from a higher
security interface to a lower security interface and only allowing return
traffic from a lower security interface to a higher security interface.  You
only need access-lists if you want to change this behavior, so the
access-lists only need to be applied "in" on a higher security interface (to
_block_ inside initiated traffic that would normally be allowed) or "in" on
a lower security interface (to _allow_ outside initiated traffic that would
normally be blocked).  Routers have a default behavior of allowing all
traffic, so you may need both "in" and "out" acls that you would not need on
the PIX.

HTH,
Kent

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Subject: Access-list [7:28188]


Folx,

A)I got 2 networks connected by a router.I apply access-group for both in
and out of the interface.

Is my assumption correct?

1)The access list for "in" would be processed when the packet leaves that
interface to diff network?

2)The access list for "out" would be processed when the packet arrives from
different network?

But in case of Pix..why there is only "in"?

cheers




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Re: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]

2001-12-05 Thread Brian

You use a credit card, if so charge back time??

Bri

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Subject: OT:Advise on Auction fraud [7:28004]


> Sorry for off topic
> I recentley bcame the victim of the Auction fraud the guy took my $1000
for
> 2621 router and now not replying for my emails and also I came to know
that
> thi s guy is a fraud and  done similiar thing to at least 4 other people
,Now
> what are the options I have to get my money back from him
>
> Thanks for all your advise
> Kaamvi




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RE: Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread Lupi, Guy

That's pretty cool, time consuming too I bet.

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StarWars episode IV in text mode:

 telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl




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Completely OT: StarWars [7:28204]

2001-12-05 Thread Sasa Milic

StarWars episode IV in text mode:

 telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl




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RE: AS2511 Configuration [7:28152]

2001-12-05 Thread Mike Sweeney

I have a very good link on one of my pages..

All You wanted to know about Console ports:
http://www.packetattack.com/1001_sub_page_6_5.html

Here is a specific link about suns and console ports
www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/serial/ 

MikeS
www.packetattack.com


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Rbe: PRO and CONs [7:28202]

2001-12-05 Thread Teresa Presutto

Dear all,
i'm reading a document downloaded from CCO about router bridged
encapsulation.
It describes advantages and disadvantages of RBE. Ok for pro
(configuration less CPE, support existing CPE, simple implemantation l3
ssg/ssd and so on).
On the other hand, it's not clear for me the cons:
1)no cpe managment access 
2)can not do unnumbered with DHCP today

Can anybody help me?
I didn't understand why I lose the CPE managment and DHCP.
Thanks in advance,
Teresa




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Re: Telephone lines [7:28151]

2001-12-05 Thread Jonathan Hays

John Tafasi wrote:
> 
> Hi group,
> 
> Can some one tell me how many twisted pair there are in a regular telephone
> line.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> John Tafasi
Assuming you are referring to the USA, although the analog
phone or modem itself uses only one pair (usually the red
and green wires) the actual wire bundle to each house is
four (4) wires or two pair: one pair consisting of a green
wire and a red wire, and a second pair consisting of a
yellow wire and a black wire. Even on the cheap extension
cords you buy in the store, there will be two pair of wires.




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RE: Telephone lines [7:28151]

2001-12-05 Thread Scott Nawalaniec

Hi John,

There is one pair of wires for a regular telephone(analog) and our digital
phones only use one pair of wires also...

Scott

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For digital it is two pair

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Okhla Phase III
New Delhi 110020

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> Can some one tell me how many twisted pair there are in a regular
telephone
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> Thanks
>
> John Tafasi




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RE: Access-list [7:28188]

2001-12-05 Thread Scott Nawalaniec

Hey Ramesh,

You actually have those flipped.
1. access-list "in" bound would mean packets coming inbound from other
networkto your network.
2. access-list "out" bound would mean packets going out your router
interface outbound to another network


About the PIX having only "in", don't know...


Scott
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Access-list [7:28188]


Folx,

A)I got 2 networks connected by a router.I apply access-group for both in
and out of the interface.

Is my assumption correct?

1)The access list for "in" would be processed when the packet leaves that
interface to diff network?

2)The access list for "out" would be processed when the packet arrives from
different network?

But in case of Pix..why there is only "in"?

cheers




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OSPF inter-area routes calc (doyle and rfc 2328) [7:28198]

2001-12-05 Thread Kane, Christopher A.

All,

Can someone help shed some light on OSPF's inter-area route calculation?

I have been reading Doyle's TCP/IP Volume 1. It's a great book. But I've
stumbled across something that confuses me and I'm hoping someone can help.
This email is kind of long, but that's because I've included snips from
Doyle's book as well as RFC 2328. I thought I had a good grasp on OSPF. I
understand the 2 level concept of the Areas, router types, network types,
DR/BDR, etc.., but then Doyle threw me for a loop. He explains OSPF in
Chapter 9. Chapter 10 is about IS-IS. As Doyle begins explaining IS-IS he
makes the following statement:
"Recall from Chapter 9, that OSPF runs its SPF algorithm to compute routes
within an area, but that inter-area routes are computed using a distance
vector algorithm." I do not understand this statement. I've reviewed Chapter
9 again and can't find where he explains that inter-area routes are computed
using a distance-vector algorithm. Below are the snips from the RFC. 

RFC 2328 Section 3.2 "Inter-area routing". Here, John Moy and group explain:
"When routing a packet between two non-backbone areas the backbone is used.
The path the packet will travel can be broken up into three contiguous
pieces: an intra-area path from source to an area border router, a backbone
path between the source and destination areas, and then another intra-area
path to the destination. The algorithm finds the set of such paths that have
the smallest cost. Looking at this another way, inter-area routing can be
pictured as forcing a star configuration on the Autonomous System, with the
backbone as hub and each of the non-backbone areas as spokes."

Further, Section 4.1 "Inter-area routing" explains:
"For inter-area routing, no other routing information is pertinent. In order
to be able to route to destinations outside of the area, the area border
routers inject additional routing information into the area. This additional
information is a distillation of the rest of the Autonomous System's
topology. This distillation is accomplished as follows: Each area border
router is by definition connected to the backbone. Each area border router
summarizes the topology of its attached non-backbone areas for transmission
on the backbone, and hence to all other area border routers. An area border
router then has complete topological information concerning the backbone,
and the area summaries from each of the other area border routers. From this
information, the router calculates paths to all inter-area destinations. The
router then advertises these paths into it's attached areas. This enables
the area's internal routers to pick the best exit router when forwarding
traffic to inter-area destinations". 

And finally, Section 16.2 "Calculating the inter-area routes"
The inter-area routes are calculated by examining summary-LSAs. If the
router has active attachments to multiple areas, only backbone summary-LSAs
are examined. Routers attached to a single area examine that area's
summary-LSAs. In either case, the summary-LSAs examined below are all part
of a single area's link state database (call it Area A).Summary-LSAs are
originated by the area border routers. Each summary-LSA in Area A is
considered in turn. Remember that the destination described by a summary-LSA
is either a network (Type 3 summary-LSAs) or an AS boundary router (Type 4
summary-LSAs). For each summary-LSA: 
(1) If the cost specified by the LSA is LSInfinity, or if the LSA's LS age
is equal to MaxAge, then examine the the next LSA. 
(2) If the LSA was originated by the calculating router itself, examine the
next LSA. 
(3) If it is a Type 3 summary-LSA, and the collection of destinations
described by the summary-LSA equals one of the router's configured area
address ranges (see Section 3.5), and the particular area address range is
active, then the summary-LSA should be ignored. "Active" means that there
are one or more reachable (by intra-area paths) networks contained in the
area range. 
(4) Else, call the destination described by the LSA N (for Type 3
summary-LSAs, N's address is obtained by masking the LSA's Link State ID
with the network/subnet mask contained in the body of the LSA), and the area
border originating the LSA BR. Look up the routing table entry for BR having
Area A as its associated area. If no such entry exists for router BR (i.e.,
BR is unreachable in Area A), do nothing with this LSA and consider the next
in the list. Else, this LSA describes an inter-area path to destination N,
whose cost is the distance to BR plus the cost specified in the LSA. Call
the cost of this inter-area path IAC.
(5) Next, look up the routing table entry for the destination N. (If N is an
AS boundary router, look up the "router" routing table entry associated with
Area A). If no entry exists for N or if the entry's path type is "type 1
external" or "type 2 external", then install the inter-area path to N, with
associated area Area A, cost IAC, next hop equal to the list

RE: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :-< [7:28142]

2001-12-05 Thread Kane, Christopher A.

Chuck,

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate your knowledge and the informative
posts. As someone else posted, it's all about learning. I am prepping for my
Written and it's great to have a format to follow. I only hope that the
lab's purpose is to prove CCIE level knowledge to be useful and applicable
to real-world networking.

Good luck on the next one sir.

Chris

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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :-< [7:28142]


I wish I could say it took so long to get my results back because my
excruciatingly sophisticated solutions to the problems presented required
detailed and intimate analysis. Alas, that was not the case.

For those ninnies who complain that the one day lab devalues the process,
all I can say is WRONG!
The lab I saw was far more difficult than I remember from my previous
attempt, and my previous attempt was NOT easy. In my first attempt, I did
not see anything I couldn't do. This time, although FAR better prepared, I
saw LOTS of things I couldn't do. IMHO, the one day format, with the
elimination of the monkey tasks, allows Cisco to demand a lot more. The 26
points previously allocated to terminal server setup, cabling, and
troubleshooting all go someplace. WOW! The places they went! Previous topics
that were glossed over appeared in depth. Cisco continues to up the ante,
and not always in ways one might expect. Some things I wouldn't have
expected were there in spades. Probably THE major factor continues to be
reachability. If you don't understand the implications of the given network
topology, and given interactions, you will be screwed.

The topology presented was interesting. Amazing what one can do on a six
router / two switch pod to wreak havoc and let you know what an idiot you
are. Devious doesn't begin to describe it. Bootcamp and IPExpert - it ain't
the number of routers, boys!

The e-mail feedback is amusing, but not particularly informative. I failed
with a score greater than 20, meaning I can go back in 30 days for more
humiliation, if I so desire. the breakdown percentages ( not scores ) would
be of more interest if I were sitting with the proctor discussing the whys
and the expectations. Otherwise it does me no god at all. for example, I
solved a particular problem doing something a particular way. It worked just
fine in terms of the results. Yet on that section I scored very poorly. What
were they looking for?

Fat fingers are still the major enemy for me, at least. It's no fun fat
fingering on a Cat 5K. Not by any means. It also helps to be certain layer
two stuff is done correctly.

Well, debriefing will be fun. I have the topology duplicated in my home lab,
and I will "enjoy" analyzing the problems I saw in the real lab. No you
can't telnet in to look. DON'T ASK!

In terms of seating, it appears to me that there are now more racks in the
lab, in San Jose, anyway. Half the seats are taken by those testing. The
other half seem to be those used the previous day. the proctors crank
through the idle racks, grading the previous day's results.

One last thing. I know what CCO says, and I know what IOS I saw on my rack.
Rats. The advertised IOS would have gone a long way towards eliminating a
particular problem I had. Not complaining, because any CCIE should have been
able to solve the particular puzzle no matter what the IOS involved. Just
observing that some things are still in the process of change.

The proctors are still the good folks I remember from last time. Too bad we
are not given the opportunity for more interaction afterwards. I would
really have enjoyed discussing my results.

Whelp, another time.

Chuck




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Re: Hi Do you guys open all attachments sent to you! [7:28196]

2001-12-05 Thread netman

God hasn't anyone learned from all the other freaking virus's sent as
attachments?

These people must open every freaking attachment sent to them without even
caring what the hell it is or who sent it.

Come on people WAKE UP!

When is the last time someone sent something usefull to you that ended in
.scr? How about .exe?



Don

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Re: IOS firewall [7:28170]

2001-12-05 Thread VoIP

I think it's OK to let the VPN traffic in on the serial interface through
the access-list.  I haven't been able to get it to wok any other way.


""Mark Odette II""  wrote in message
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> Just a small note on your #3 question:
> While reading up on implementing VPN Tunnels terminated between two Cisco
> routers, I came across a blurb from the CCO site stating that Cisco is
> recommending you choose IPSEC for VPN tunnels, as they are moving away
from
> (it's already deemed obsolete) CET based VPNs.  I can't remember if they
> stated that the were even going to REMOVE CET from the IOS after a certain
> version, but it's possible.
>
> I'd go into answering your first two questions, but I just did an
> all-nighter on a VoIP with VPN Tunnels trial, and am way too tired to
> collect the words needed to answer :)
>
> Just remember - IPSEC is the standard, so it probably would be wise (for
the
> future) to implement it, rather than a vendor proprietary solution.
>
> Mark Odette II
> StellarConnection Services
> CCNA, 3/4 CCNP, etc., etc.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Ramesh c
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 5:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: IOS firewall [7:28170]
>
>
> Hi folx,
>
> I got a lease line connected to private network and ethernet port
connected
> to Internet.The router is configured as IOS firewall.I am planning to do a
> VPN to another office.
>
> 1)Can I turn off CBAC and just use the access-list for security purpose?
> 2)As default Outside cannot reach inside,if i just create an access-list
to
> allow packets from VPN to reach inside..is it safe?
>
> 3)Since its  cisco devices..which VPN is good CET or IPSEC?
>
> Cheers
> Ramesh




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RE: Command Lookup Tool [7:28135]

2001-12-05 Thread Angel Leiva

I thought I'd share this useful CCO URL as well:

The ABCs of Cisco IOS. Software
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/732/abc/

Have a great day !

Angel



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Thanks John, I'll pass it along to my students.

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy


John Neiberger wrote:

> I thought I'd pass this along for those of you who haven't seen it yet.
> I just ran across it and I think I'll be using it often.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/support/Cmdlookup/ios-search.html
>
> Regards,
> John




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Re: CPA 25xx Upgrade Tool [7:28018]

2001-12-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Apr 25, 11:25am, "Circusnuts" wrote:
}
} http: //www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Software/Tablebuild/tablebuild.pl/rsl
} 
} Man-o-man !!!  It took me a while to track this down this afternoon.  If
you
} upgrading a CPA router, you'll need this piece of software.

 I don't think it is particularly hard to find.  However, you need
download privileges to get it.  The other way to get it is to buy
CD25-C-12.0= (i.e. 2500 IP feature pack).  The problem there is that
most distributors don't seem to be stocking 2500 stuff anymore (my main
distributor has one 2514 and that's it).  I've had the 2500 IOS on back
order for more then a month now with no sign of it.  I sure wish it
would show up so I could upgrade my CPA2509 (I've already upgraded the
ROMs).

}-- End of excerpt from "Circusnuts"




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RE: Hi [7:28185]

2001-12-05 Thread Hugo M. H. R. Taxa

Watch out! This is a virus!

Hugo

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RE: IOS firewall [7:28170]

2001-12-05 Thread Mark Odette II

Just a small note on your #3 question:
While reading up on implementing VPN Tunnels terminated between two Cisco
routers, I came across a blurb from the CCO site stating that Cisco is
recommending you choose IPSEC for VPN tunnels, as they are moving away from
(it's already deemed obsolete) CET based VPNs.  I can't remember if they
stated that the were even going to REMOVE CET from the IOS after a certain
version, but it's possible.

I'd go into answering your first two questions, but I just did an
all-nighter on a VoIP with VPN Tunnels trial, and am way too tired to
collect the words needed to answer :)

Just remember - IPSEC is the standard, so it probably would be wise (for the
future) to implement it, rather than a vendor proprietary solution.

Mark Odette II
StellarConnection Services
CCNA, 3/4 CCNP, etc., etc.


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Ramesh c
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 5:06 AM
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Subject: IOS firewall [7:28170]


Hi folx,

I got a lease line connected to private network and ethernet port connected
to Internet.The router is configured as IOS firewall.I am planning to do a
VPN to another office.

1)Can I turn off CBAC and just use the access-list for security purpose?
2)As default Outside cannot reach inside,if i just create an access-list to
allow packets from VPN to reach inside..is it safe?

3)Since its  cisco devices..which VPN is good CET or IPSEC?

Cheers
Ramesh




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RE: Channelized E1 termination from MUX [7:28178]

2001-12-05 Thread Mark Odette II

Verify Framing, Line Code, and Clock Source parameters with Telco, as it
looks like you have a mis-match on those settings.
Loss of Frames indicates that your Framing or Line code parameters don't
match what the telco has set on their end, but it also might just be the
Clock Source parameter being incorrectly set.

Let us know if that fixes your problem.

Mark Odette II
StellarConnection Services
CCNA, 3/4 CCNP, etc., etc.


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Subject: Channelized E1 terminatin from MUX [7:28178]


Hello ,

We are using channelized E1 on a PRI card of cisco3600 , for multiple 64K
ckts coming from a MUX  which is placed at the TELCO .

1) Is it possible to get a loop on the channelized PRI controller( show
controller e1)  by giving a 4 wire physical loop ? I did not get the loop on
the E1 controller of cisco router , by giving a four wire loop or by taking
a loop from TELCO . Loop is ok if tested on BERT meter .
2) All connectivity/media is ok but the TELCO person observes an alarm on
the MUX when the channelized E1 is terminated at the Cisco PRI card on a
3600 router.
3) The o/p of the controller is given below :

show controllers e1 1/0
E1 1/0 is down.
  Applique type is Channelized E1 - balanced
  Transmitter is sending remote alarm.
  Receiver has loss of signal.
  alarm-trigger is not set
  Framing is NO-CRC4, Line Code is HDB3, Clock Source is Internal.
  Data in current interval (29 seconds elapsed):
 0 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations
 0 Slip Secs, 29 Fr Loss Secs, 0 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded Mins
 0 Errored Secs, 0 Bursty Err Secs, 0 Severely Err Secs, 29 Unavail Secs
  Data in Interval 1:
 1 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations
 0 Slip Secs, 827 Fr Loss Secs, 1 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded Mins
...


If anyone knows how to resolve this pls help me out.

Thanks & Regards,
Vijendra.




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Access-list [7:28188]

2001-12-05 Thread Ramesh c

Folx,

A)I got 2 networks connected by a router.I apply access-group for both in
and out of the interface.

Is my assumption correct?

1)The access list for "in" would be processed when the packet leaves that
interface to diff network?

2)The access list for "out" would be processed when the packet arrives from
different network?

But in case of Pix..why there is only "in"?

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RE: Re[6]: VPN is a Backdoor !!! [7:27725]

2001-12-05 Thread Kent Hundley

Right, but this again assumes that the user is not going to do something
silly like, oh, use their own ISP some of the time because you are blocking
and/or logging all the "interesting" sites on the Internet they want to use.
They connect through a local ISP, go to the chat rooms, get some new
software and presto, their machine has a nasty virus/worm/trojan.  That
nicely designed, expensive VPN cannot stop this.

I understand perfectly that there are VPN technologies that can pretty
sucessfully ensure that an uncompromised machine stays uncompromised, _just
as long as the user does what they are supposed to do_. (i.e. only connect
to the Internet through the methods you have setup)  However, I say again
the problem is that users behave in silly, erratic and unsafe ways and this
is the problem that VPN's cannot solve in and of themselves.

You can mitigate this through policies, procedures and various lockdown
mechanisms on the machines used to access your VPN, but the issue is still
going to be there. (what one person designs, another person can circumvent)
Securing the endpoints is difficult because of the humans that use them.
Getting the VPN built is the easy part.  Getting humans to use it
"correctly" is where the problems arise.

-Kent



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To: Kent Hundley
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Subject: Re[6]: VPN is a Backdoor !!! [7:27725]



I try to explain what I mean :

You have a mobile user who uses your VPN. You have an L2TP or Layer 3
transport agreement some of the ISPs (exp : AT&T)
Now if your user call ISP which has an agreement with you, this user
transported to you. And you authenticate again (if you want) than give
him/her an IP. At this point they don't have any internet connection.
After authenticate (or not) your mobile user, you give some
restrictions to their. ( they can use some of your servers or not;
they can access internet via you or not, etc.)
Now if you give them "internet connection access permit", they have to
access internet over your main gateway. This mean; if any hacker want
to put Backdoor ob your mobile users via the internet, they must
bypass your main gateway. If they can bypass your main gateway, there is
another problem, but this is not a VPN problem.

Monday, December 03, 2001, 8:29:59 PM, you wrote:

KH> Not sure what you mean by this.  The VPN technology used is irrelevant.
If
KH> I have a home user who uses their laptop to access the Internet, there
are
KH> various ways that machine could become compromised.  If that user then
KH> attaches to the VPN, I have a machine on my VPN that is compromised.  It
KH> doesn't matter what the method of VPN is (L2TP with IPsec, PPTP, etc),
it's
KH> not going to keep a compromised machine from continuing to be
compromised.

KH> All the VPN can do is keep a non-compromised machine from becoming
KH> compromised through the VPN.  If the machine is compromised before it
KH> connects to the VPN, no amount of VPN technology is going to help.

KH> This issue is not solvable through VPN technology because it isn't a VPN
KH> problem.  It's an end-station access control problem.  At the end of the
KH> day, if your users are allowed to completely control their own machines,
the
KH> liklihood that someones machine will be compromised approaches 1.0. (in
KH> other words, certainty)  This risk can be mitigated through various
software
KH> and poliices, but it cannot be eliminated.
KH> -Kent

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Re: Where Can I download GATED 9.0 for testing BGP [7:27496]

2001-12-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

See also

http://www.nexthop.com/

HTH

Dom Stocqueler




   

   
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Nemeth)" Subject: Re: Where Can I
download GATED 9.0 for testing BGP [7:27496]
  Gated is embedded in all Unix platforms.
}
} Are you sure? RouteD, yes. I've always thought I had to install GateD.

 You're right, GateD is commercial software, although there is an
academic licence available.  See http://www.gated.org/ for more
information.

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New Layer 2 framing protocol: IP via USB? [7:28186]

2001-12-05 Thread Elmer Deloso

Hello,
Does anyone have more info on the framing standards or protocols when you
pass
IP traffic via USB interfaces as in Direct Cable Connection (DCC)?
Many cable and DSL modems are now equipped with USB to PC networking
capability
And I can't seem to find anything on CCO that discusses this in detail like
framing with
Well known router/switch interfaces.
 
Thanks for your input.
Elmer Deloso




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2001-12-05 Thread Madalina Ana

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Re: Where Can I download GATED 9.0 for testing BGP [7:27496]

2001-12-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Apr 19,  8:39am, "Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote:
}
} >  Gated is embedded in all Unix platforms.
} 
} Are you sure? RouteD, yes. I've always thought I had to install GateD.

 You're right, GateD is commercial software, although there is an
academic licence available.  See http://www.gated.org/ for more
information.

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Re: Re[6]: VPN is a Backdoor !!! [7:27725]

2001-12-05 Thread Patrick Ramsey

While that scenario might be possible, very few laptops out there *never*
connect to the internet.  And if they have connected once, then they risk
being hacked.  What's worse is if they have dsl or cable connected directly
to their laptop with no router or firewall between them and the internet.

all is takes is *ONE* machine with BO on it to wreak havoc on a network!

-Patrick

>>> "SentinuS"  12/05/01 04:42AM >>>
I try to explain what I mean :

You have a mobile user who uses your VPN. You have an L2TP or Layer 3
transport agreement some of the ISPs (exp : AT&T)
Now if your user call ISP which has an agreement with you, this user
transported to you. And you authenticate again (if you want) than give
him/her an IP. At this point they don't have any internet connection.
After authenticate (or not) your mobile user, you give some
restrictions to their. ( they can use some of your servers or not;
they can access internet via you or not, etc.)
Now if you give them "internet connection access permit", they have to
access internet over your main gateway. This mean; if any hacker want
to put Backdoor ob your mobile users via the internet, they must
bypass your main gateway. If they can bypass your main gateway, there is
another problem, but this is not a VPN problem.

Monday, December 03, 2001, 8:29:59 PM, you wrote:

KH> Not sure what you mean by this.  The VPN technology used is irrelevant. 
If
KH> I have a home user who uses their laptop to access the Internet, there
are
KH> various ways that machine could become compromised.  If that user then
KH> attaches to the VPN, I have a machine on my VPN that is compromised.  It
KH> doesn't matter what the method of VPN is (L2TP with IPsec, PPTP, etc),
it's
KH> not going to keep a compromised machine from continuing to be
compromised.

KH> All the VPN can do is keep a non-compromised machine from becoming
KH> compromised through the VPN.  If the machine is compromised before it
KH> connects to the VPN, no amount of VPN technology is going to help.

KH> This issue is not solvable through VPN technology because it isn't a VPN
KH> problem.  It's an end-station access control problem.  At the end of the
KH> day, if your users are allowed to completely control their own machines,
the
KH> liklihood that someones machine will be compromised approaches 1.0. (in
KH> other words, certainty)  This risk can be mitigated through various
software
KH> and poliices, but it cannot be eliminated.
KH> -Kent

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Re: Can Pix support Email spamming [7:28163]

2001-12-05 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Do you mean inbound spam from other smtp relays?  Or people using your
server to spam other people?

>>> "fahim"  12/05/01 02:00AM >>>
Hi group,
I have a exchange server residing on the inside interface, How can i protect
spamming on pix. Does pix protect email spamming, I know that there is a
command in Cisco IOS firewall feature set its
ip audit smtp spam.. but to what extent it protects. any inputs, I have
searched cisco.com, there is no page giving me the answer.
thanks
fahim
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RE: Content Switches [7:28157]

2001-12-05 Thread Matthew Crane

You final conclusion is correct, you cannot using VLAN tunks between a
catalyst & other Cisco switches.
CCB wrote:
> 
> I have a quick question about the Cisco 11000 series of content
> switches,
> does anyone know if the content switch is supposed to be able
> to trunk a
> link between the 11000 and a switch (5500,6500).  The reason
> why I am asking
> is I have been working with a 11000 trying to setup a trunk
> link to provide
> our current VLAN's in the VTP domain to the content switch and
> I am unable
> to get the switch (Cat6509) to recognize the trunk link, when I
> do a "show
> trunk detail" on the switch it shows the port as trunking, but
> it does not
> recognize the trunk link.  Both the Content Switch and the
> Cat6509 are set
> to use 802.1Q as the trunking type.  I may be mislead but from
> everything I
> have tried I have come to the conclusion that the interface can
> only be
> trunked between two content switches and not a content switch
> to a L2/L3
> switch.  Any information would be helpful.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 




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Re: Telephone lines [7:28151]

2001-12-05 Thread Mahesh

For digital it is two pair

--
Mahesh Chandra
Tata Internet Services Limited
213-A Okhla Industrial Estates
Okhla Phase III
New Delhi 110020

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>
> Can some one tell me how many twisted pair there are in a regular
telephone
> line.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> John Tafasi




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Re: The Scoop on PIX? [7:26607]

2001-12-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Apr 10,  6:23am, "trammer" wrote:

 I meant to respond to this awhile ago...

} If you feel that the firewall aspect of your network does not require the
} horsepower, functionality, failover, expansion, etc. of a dedicated purpose
} box such as the PIX, then a regular router (2600, 3600, etc.) running the
} IOS firewall code may be the correct step.

 You can get a PIX 501 starting at about $800 CDN retail.  Whereas,
the IP/Firewall Plus IPSEC feature pack for the 2600 is going to set
you back about $2300 CDN retail.  That's a huge difference.  Heck for
that kind of money, you could almost get into a 506 (about $2650 CDN
retail).  When you look at the cost, it doesn't seem to make sense to
use a router as a firewall, unless there is a huge requirement to save
space or use fewer devices.

} Ultimately you may refer to the term "you get what you pay for".

I'm not even sure about that.

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Channelized E1 terminatin from MUX [7:28178]

2001-12-05 Thread Vijendra Jaiswal

Hello ,

We are using channelized E1 on a PRI card of cisco3600 , for multiple 64K
ckts coming from a MUX  which is placed at the TELCO .

1) Is it possible to get a loop on the channelized PRI controller( show
controller e1)  by giving a 4 wire physical loop ? I did not get the loop on
the E1 controller of cisco router , by giving a four wire loop or by taking
a loop from TELCO . Loop is ok if tested on BERT meter .
2) All connectivity/media is ok but the TELCO person observes an alarm on
the MUX when the channelized E1 is terminated at the Cisco PRI card on a
3600 router.
3) The o/p of the controller is given below :

show controllers e1 1/0
E1 1/0 is down.
  Applique type is Channelized E1 - balanced
  Transmitter is sending remote alarm.
  Receiver has loss of signal.
  alarm-trigger is not set
  Framing is NO-CRC4, Line Code is HDB3, Clock Source is Internal.
  Data in current interval (29 seconds elapsed):
 0 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations
 0 Slip Secs, 29 Fr Loss Secs, 0 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded Mins
 0 Errored Secs, 0 Bursty Err Secs, 0 Severely Err Secs, 29 Unavail Secs
  Data in Interval 1:
 1 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations
 0 Slip Secs, 827 Fr Loss Secs, 1 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded Mins
...


If anyone knows how to resolve this pls help me out.

Thanks & Regards,
Vijendra.




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2001-12-05 Thread Goudreault, Wayne

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2001-12-05 Thread Bumbray, John

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Macro [7:28171]

2001-12-05 Thread Pierre-Alex J. Guanel

Does anyone know how to script the reverse telnet Ctl+Shift+6 x key sequence
using Teraterm?

My current script (below), types the x but does not seem to execute the
Ctl+Shift+6. OR maybe something
is happening after the Ctl+Shift+6 is sent and before the line "sendkcode 45
1" is issued. I don't know...

sendkcode 1543 1
sendkcode 45 1

Thanks

Pierre-Alex




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IOS firewall [7:28170]

2001-12-05 Thread Ramesh c

Hi folx,

I got a lease line connected to private network and ethernet port connected
to Internet.The router is configured as IOS firewall.I am planning to do a
VPN to another office.

1)Can I turn off CBAC and just use the access-list for security purpose?
2)As default Outside cannot reach inside,if i just create an access-list to
allow packets from VPN to reach inside..is it safe?

3)Since its  cisco devices..which VPN is good CET or IPSEC?

Cheers
Ramesh




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Reedley in the news [7:28169]

2001-12-05 Thread Thomas O'Toole




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RE: Win2K Browsing Problem [7:28074]

2001-12-05 Thread Tangled Up in Blue

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Nethealth impact on Network [7:28167]

2001-12-05 Thread maamun Murangwa

Hi all,
I'm currenting deploying a few management tools onto
our network. The problem is i'm worried about the kind
of impact this will have on the network performance.
Current tool already installed is  HP Node Manager.
I'm now configuring Nethealth and will have Cisco
works and Vantagepoint deployed soon. I know some
people might be wondering why have all these, but i
would only like advise from someone who has deployed
these tools and what problems if any(on the network
performance) did he/she face. So far  i have had
problems on Router CPU utilization going high, don't
want to make it worse.

Yr help will be highly appreciated
regards
MMK


Nokia 5510 looks weird sounds great. 
Go to http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/nokia/ discover and win it! 
The competition ends 16 th of December 2001.




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Re[6]: VPN is a Backdoor !!! [7:27725]

2001-12-05 Thread SentinuS

I try to explain what I mean :

You have a mobile user who uses your VPN. You have an L2TP or Layer 3
transport agreement some of the ISPs (exp : AT&T)
Now if your user call ISP which has an agreement with you, this user
transported to you. And you authenticate again (if you want) than give
him/her an IP. At this point they don't have any internet connection.
After authenticate (or not) your mobile user, you give some
restrictions to their. ( they can use some of your servers or not;
they can access internet via you or not, etc.)
Now if you give them "internet connection access permit", they have to
access internet over your main gateway. This mean; if any hacker want
to put Backdoor ob your mobile users via the internet, they must
bypass your main gateway. If they can bypass your main gateway, there is
another problem, but this is not a VPN problem.

Monday, December 03, 2001, 8:29:59 PM, you wrote:

KH> Not sure what you mean by this.  The VPN technology used is irrelevant. 
If
KH> I have a home user who uses their laptop to access the Internet, there
are
KH> various ways that machine could become compromised.  If that user then
KH> attaches to the VPN, I have a machine on my VPN that is compromised.  It
KH> doesn't matter what the method of VPN is (L2TP with IPsec, PPTP, etc),
it's
KH> not going to keep a compromised machine from continuing to be
compromised.

KH> All the VPN can do is keep a non-compromised machine from becoming
KH> compromised through the VPN.  If the machine is compromised before it
KH> connects to the VPN, no amount of VPN technology is going to help.

KH> This issue is not solvable through VPN technology because it isn't a VPN
KH> problem.  It's an end-station access control problem.  At the end of the
KH> day, if your users are allowed to completely control their own machines,
the
KH> liklihood that someones machine will be compromised approaches 1.0. (in
KH> other words, certainty)  This risk can be mitigated through various
software
KH> and poliices, but it cannot be eliminated.
KH> -Kent

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CCIE Lab Workbook: ccprep.com [7:28165]

2001-12-05 Thread Kenneth Yeung

Did anyone try the ccprep.com CCIE Lab preparation workbook ?  Please help
to comment on the workbook.  I am planning to buy it.


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