Re: Static route load balancing? [7:31715]

2002-01-13 Thread Cisco Breaker

So you are actually saying that some packets will be lost. Can we avoid this
with policy-maps or something else?

Best regards,


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> doesn't matter.
>
> Serial1/0  100.100.100.1   YES manual up
> up
>
> Serial1/1  100.100.13.1YES manual up
> up
>
> r1#ping 10.1.1.1
>
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
> .!.!.
> Success rate is 40 percent (2/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 20/20/20 ms
> r1#ping 10.1.1.1
>
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
> !.!.!
> Success rate is 60 percent (3/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 20/20/20 ms
> r1#
>
> as long as your side of the link is up, this is what happens
>
> can't do further testing, as my frame setup would take too long to change.
I
> presume, though, that if your side of the link is down then all packets
> would go out the one interface that is still up.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ""Brian Whalen""  wrote in message
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> > Doesnt that depend on whether you route to the local interface or the
> > remote ip?
> >
> > Brian "Sonic" Whalen
> > Success = Preparation + Opportunity
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Bill Carter wrote:
> >
> > > If the static routes have the save metric, the router will load
balance
> > > traffic it sends out according to the routes.  I don't like this
option
> > > because if one path goes down every other packet will fail.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Cisco Breaker
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 6:05 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Static route loacd balancing? [7:31715]
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > My customer wants load balancing solution to a branch office. He heard
> that
> > > it can be done with static routes, but as I know load balancing can't
be
> > > done by deploying static routes. Any help about this? Can it be done
or
> how
> > > effective will it be?
> > >
> > > Best regards,




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Re: Hike In CCNP Exam Fee ????? [7:31827]

2002-01-13 Thread Mr piyush shah

Hello Guys,
I am preparing for Cisco Exams I heard that the exam
Fees for Cisco CCNP exam is going to rise. Can I know
whether w.e.f when isit going to rise and how much ?
Currently it is Rs. 7000/- Approx.  Since I am from
India ,I would like to know whether will it be
applicable in India ?


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Re: OT: Gawd I hate my life ;-> [7:31817]

2002-01-13 Thread Chewy Gravy

At 11:39 PM 1/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:

  sigh. have not run into this before, not in two trips through the
  lab, not
  on any number of routers and IOS versions, both at home and in
  customer
  installations.

  Anyone got any clue what show IP protocol-discovery does?

Google has a cached page on this:

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:adIy4mIe-I0C:www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fqos_c/fqcprt1/qcfnbar.htm+show+IP+protocol-discovery&hl=en

Mind the wrap. But the closest they get to that command is:
Router# show ip nbar protocol-discovery
Displays the statistics for all interfaces on which Protocol Discovery is
enabled.

I don't know if this helps, but there ya go.

BTW - For the life of me, I couldn't figure out why you hated your wife
because of this issue. I really need to read the subject lines better.

Doug
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Re: Gawd I hate my life ;-> [7:31817]

2002-01-13 Thread Ken Diliberto

You could always call TAC.  Maybe they can find out for you.  Either that,
or tell you "I don't know".

:-)

Ken

>>> "Tony Medeiros"  01/13/02 11:44PM >>>
My router has that command too.
Can't get to show any output or find anything to turn it on
with..And no reference to it all, even in 12.2.
Must be one of the "features" that never made it
Tony

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: OT: Gawd I hate my life ;-> [7:31817]


> OK, so I've been doing rack testing for some people who are going to be
> going public Real Soon Now.
>
> Got some things mocked up. Some of which relate to topics discussed on
this
> forum yesterday and today. I need to check something and issue the command
> "show ip prot" enter.
>
> r2#sh ip prot
> % Ambiguous command:  "sh ip prot"
> r2#
>
> well, now...
>
> r2#show ip prot?
> protocol-discovery  protocols
>
> r2#show ip prot
>
> so what is "show ip protocol-discovery?
>
> r2#sh ip protocol-discovery ?
>   interface  Show for a specific interface
>   protocol   Show stats about a pariticula protocol
>   stats  Show Stats
>   top-n  Show Top-N protocols by bytes
>   |  Output modifiers
>
>
> OK. so a command I've been using since 11.2 is no longer valid. except
that
> it is on other routers.
>
> but look - still good on other routers:
>
> r3#sh ip prot?
> protocols
>
> r3#sh ip prot
>
>
> OK, check CCO, no record of any such command as show ip protocol-discovery
> in any command reference I check. A search of CCO for the phrase reveals
> nothing.
>
> now what?
>
> the IOS version in question is:
>
> r2#sh ver
> Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-JS56I-M), Version 12.1(5)T10,  RELEASE
> SOFTWARE (f
> c2)
>
> sigh. have not run into this before, not in two trips through the lab, not
> on any number of routers and IOS versions, both at home and in customer
> installations.
>
> Anyone got any clue what show IP protocol-discovery does?
>
> sheesh.. another good shortcut down the tubes.
>
> Chuck




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Re: EIGRP 'default network' Rehash [7:31799]

2002-01-13 Thread Murtaza Syed

Following is some info from Cisco's site:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/103/eigrp8.html

Default Routing

There are two ways to inject a default route into EIGRP: redistribute a
static route or summarize to 0.0.0.0/0. Use the first method when
you want to draw all traffic to unknown destinations to a default route at
the core of the network. This method is effective for advertising
connections to the Internet. For example:

 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 x.x.x.x (next hop to the internet)
 !
 router eigrp 100
  redistribute static
  default-metric 1 1 255 1 1500

The static route that is redistributed into EIGRP does not have to be to
network 0.0.0.0. If you use another network, you must use the ip
default-network command to mark the network as a default network. Please
refer to Configuring a Gateway of Last Resort for further
information.

Summarizing to a default route is effective only when you want to provide
remote sites with a default route. Since summaries are configured
per interface, you don't need to worry about using distribute-lists or other
mechanisms to prevent the default route from being propagated
toward the core of your network. Note that a summary to 0.0.0.0/0 overrides
a default route learned from any other routing protocol. The
only way to configure a default route on a router using this method is to
configure a static route to 0.0.0.0/0. (Beginning in Cisco IOS
Software 12.0(4)T, you can also configure an administrative distance on the
end of the summary-address command, so the local summary
doesn't override the 0.0.0.0/0 route).

 router eigrp 100
  network 10.0.0.0
 !
 interface serial 0
  encapsulation frame-relay
  no ip address
 !
 interface serial 0.1 point-to-point
  ip address 10.1.1.1
  frame-relay interface-dlci 10
  ip summary-address eigrp 100 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0

Regards,

Murtaza

- Original Message -
From: "s vermill" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 4:33 PM
Subject: EIGRP 'default network' Rehash [7:31799]


> Sorry to bring this up again but apparently, for at least some of us, it
> needs to be.  I chimed in the other day and offered a way to get EIGRP to
> distribute a default route.  That basically amounted to simply defining a
> static to 0.0.0.0 and redistributing static into EIGRP (whoever corrected
me
> by pointing out that the 'network 0.0.0.0' command isn't necessary, I
thank
> you (it was in BSCN)).
>
> Wayne jumped in and explained some problems with EIGRP and the 'ip
> default-network' command.  I thought it all sounded quite reasonable.  So
I
> tried this in the lab for several hours today (no "get a life" remarks
> please).  I must be really dense, because nothing I try works quite the
way
> (that I thought) it was described.  It seems that the only way to
> sucessfully use the default-network is to configure it on every single
> router in the AS (I tried this with RIP just as a sanity check and it
worked
> just fine).
>
> If that is the case, can a good argument be made in favor of this approach
> over redistributing static?  Or summarizing to 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 on an
> interface?  Both of those, at least, propogate throughout the AS after
> configuration on just one router.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Scott




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Re: Gawd I hate my life ;-> [7:31817]

2002-01-13 Thread Tony Medeiros

My router has that command too.
Can't get to show any output or find anything to turn it on
with..And no reference to it all, even in 12.2.
Must be one of the "features" that never made it
Tony

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: OT: Gawd I hate my life ;-> [7:31817]


> OK, so I've been doing rack testing for some people who are going to be
> going public Real Soon Now.
>
> Got some things mocked up. Some of which relate to topics discussed on
this
> forum yesterday and today. I need to check something and issue the command
> "show ip prot" enter.
>
> r2#sh ip prot
> % Ambiguous command:  "sh ip prot"
> r2#
>
> well, now...
>
> r2#show ip prot?
> protocol-discovery  protocols
>
> r2#show ip prot
>
> so what is "show ip protocol-discovery?
>
> r2#sh ip protocol-discovery ?
>   interface  Show for a specific interface
>   protocol   Show stats about a pariticula protocol
>   stats  Show Stats
>   top-n  Show Top-N protocols by bytes
>   |  Output modifiers
>
>
> OK. so a command I've been using since 11.2 is no longer valid. except
that
> it is on other routers.
>
> but look - still good on other routers:
>
> r3#sh ip prot?
> protocols
>
> r3#sh ip prot
>
>
> OK, check CCO, no record of any such command as show ip protocol-discovery
> in any command reference I check. A search of CCO for the phrase reveals
> nothing.
>
> now what?
>
> the IOS version in question is:
>
> r2#sh ver
> Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-JS56I-M), Version 12.1(5)T10,  RELEASE
> SOFTWARE (f
> c2)
>
> sigh. have not run into this before, not in two trips through the lab, not
> on any number of routers and IOS versions, both at home and in customer
> installations.
>
> Anyone got any clue what show IP protocol-discovery does?
>
> sheesh.. another good shortcut down the tubes.
>
> Chuck




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Re: Gawd I hate my life ;-> [7:31817]

2002-01-13 Thread Murtaza Syed

Hopefully the following is of some help:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fqos
_r/qrfcmd3.htm#xtocid1
Quality of Service Commands

ip nbar protocol-discovery

QR-62
Cisco IOS Quality of Service Solutions Command Reference
ip nbar protocol-discovery
To configure Networked-Based Application Recognition (NBAR) to discover
traffic for all protocols
known to NBAR on a particular interface, use the ip nbar protocol-discovery
interface configuration
command. To disable traffic discovery, use the no form of this command.

ip nbar protocol-discovery
no ip nbar protocol-discovery

Syntax Description This command has no arguments or keywords.
Defaults This command has no default behavior or values.
Command Modes Interface configuration
Command History
Usage Guidelines Use the ip nbar protocol-discovery command to configure
NBAR to keep traffic statistics for all
protocols known to NBAR. Protocol discovery provides an easy way to discover
application protocols
transiting an interface so that QoS policies can be developed and applied.
The Protocol Discovery feature
discovers any protocol traffic supported by NBAR. Protocol discovery can be
used to monitor both input
and output traffic and may be applied with or without a service policy
enabled.
Examples The following example configures protocol discovery on an Ethernet
interface:
interface ethernet 1/3
ip nbar protocol-discovery
Related Commands
Release Modification
12.0(5)XE2 This command was introduced.
12.1(5)T This command was integrated into Cisco IOS Release 12.1(5)T.
Command Description

show ip nbar protocol-discovery

Displays the statistics gathered by the NBAR Protocol
Discovery feature.



Regards,

Murtaza

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: OT: Gawd I hate my life ;-> [7:31817]


> OK, so I've been doing rack testing for some people who are going to be
> going public Real Soon Now.
>
> Got some things mocked up. Some of which relate to topics discussed on
this
> forum yesterday and today. I need to check something and issue the command
> "show ip prot" enter.
>
> r2#sh ip prot
> % Ambiguous command:  "sh ip prot"
> r2#
>
> well, now...
>
> r2#show ip prot?
> protocol-discovery  protocols
>
> r2#show ip prot
>
> so what is "show ip protocol-discovery?
>
> r2#sh ip protocol-discovery ?
>   interface  Show for a specific interface
>   protocol   Show stats about a pariticula protocol
>   stats  Show Stats
>   top-n  Show Top-N protocols by bytes
>   |  Output modifiers
>
>
> OK. so a command I've been using since 11.2 is no longer valid. except
that
> it is on other routers.
>
> but look - still good on other routers:
>
> r3#sh ip prot?
> protocols
>
> r3#sh ip prot
>
>
> OK, check CCO, no record of any such command as show ip protocol-discovery
> in any command reference I check. A search of CCO for the phrase reveals
> nothing.
>
> now what?
>
> the IOS version in question is:
>
> r2#sh ver
> Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-JS56I-M), Version 12.1(5)T10,  RELEASE
> SOFTWARE (f
> c2)
>
> sigh. have not run into this before, not in two trips through the lab, not
> on any number of routers and IOS versions, both at home and in customer
> installations.
>
> Anyone got any clue what show IP protocol-discovery does?
>
> sheesh.. another good shortcut down the tubes.
>
> Chuck




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Re: Gawd I hate my life ;-> [7:31817]

2002-01-13 Thread Murtaza Syed

Hopefully the following is of some help:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fqos
_r/qrfcmd3.htm#xtocid1
Quality of Service Commands

ip nbar protocol-discovery

QR-62
Cisco IOS Quality of Service Solutions Command Reference
ip nbar protocol-discovery
To configure Networked-Based Application Recognition (NBAR) to discover
traffic for all protocols
known to NBAR on a particular interface, use the ip nbar protocol-discovery
interface configuration
command. To disable traffic discovery, use the no form of this command.

ip nbar protocol-discovery
no ip nbar protocol-discovery

Syntax Description This command has no arguments or keywords.
Defaults This command has no default behavior or values.
Command Modes Interface configuration
Command History
Usage Guidelines Use the ip nbar protocol-discovery command to configure
NBAR to keep traffic statistics for all
protocols known to NBAR. Protocol discovery provides an easy way to discover
application protocols
transiting an interface so that QoS policies can be developed and applied.
The Protocol Discovery feature
discovers any protocol traffic supported by NBAR. Protocol discovery can be
used to monitor both input
and output traffic and may be applied with or without a service policy
enabled.
Examples The following example configures protocol discovery on an Ethernet
interface:
interface ethernet 1/3
ip nbar protocol-discovery
Related Commands
Release Modification
12.0(5)XE2 This command was introduced.
12.1(5)T This command was integrated into Cisco IOS Release 12.1(5)T.
Command Description

show ip nbar protocol-discovery

Displays the statistics gathered by the NBAR Protocol
Discovery feature.



Regards,

Murtaza

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: OT: Gawd I hate my life ;-> [7:31817]


> OK, so I've been doing rack testing for some people who are going to be
> going public Real Soon Now.
>
> Got some things mocked up. Some of which relate to topics discussed on
this
> forum yesterday and today. I need to check something and issue the command
> "show ip prot" enter.
>
> r2#sh ip prot
> % Ambiguous command:  "sh ip prot"
> r2#
>
> well, now...
>
> r2#show ip prot?
> protocol-discovery  protocols
>
> r2#show ip prot
>
> so what is "show ip protocol-discovery?
>
> r2#sh ip protocol-discovery ?
>   interface  Show for a specific interface
>   protocol   Show stats about a pariticula protocol
>   stats  Show Stats
>   top-n  Show Top-N protocols by bytes
>   |  Output modifiers
>
>
> OK. so a command I've been using since 11.2 is no longer valid. except
that
> it is on other routers.
>
> but look - still good on other routers:
>
> r3#sh ip prot?
> protocols
>
> r3#sh ip prot
>
>
> OK, check CCO, no record of any such command as show ip protocol-discovery
> in any command reference I check. A search of CCO for the phrase reveals
> nothing.
>
> now what?
>
> the IOS version in question is:
>
> r2#sh ver
> Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-JS56I-M), Version 12.1(5)T10,  RELEASE
> SOFTWARE (f
> c2)
>
> sigh. have not run into this before, not in two trips through the lab, not
> on any number of routers and IOS versions, both at home and in customer
> installations.
>
> Anyone got any clue what show IP protocol-discovery does?
>
> sheesh.. another good shortcut down the tubes.
>
> Chuck




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Re: OT: Gawd I hate my life ;-> [7:31817]

2002-01-13 Thread John Neiberger

Chuck,

If it helps, I have read about that command at one point.  It 
seems to me that it has something to do with NBAR or CBAC.  ;-
)  At least it has something to do with some technology that is 
a four letter acronym.  heh heh...

John



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 On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Chuck Larrieu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> OK, so I've been doing rack testing for some people who are 
going to be
> going public Real Soon Now.
> 
> Got some things mocked up. Some of which relate to topics 
discussed on
> this
> forum yesterday and today. I need to check something and 
issue the
> command
> "show ip prot" enter.
> 
> r2#sh ip prot
> % Ambiguous command:  "sh ip prot"
> r2#
> 
> well, now...
> 
> r2#show ip prot?
> protocol-discovery  protocols
> 
> r2#show ip prot
> 
> so what is "show ip protocol-discovery?
> 
> r2#sh ip protocol-discovery ?
>   interface  Show for a specific interface
>   protocol   Show stats about a pariticula protocol
>   stats  Show Stats
>   top-n  Show Top-N protocols by bytes
>   |  Output modifiers
>   
> 
> OK. so a command I've been using since 11.2 is no longer 
valid. except
> that
> it is on other routers.
> 
> but look - still good on other routers:
> 
> r3#sh ip prot?
> protocols
> 
> r3#sh ip prot
> 
> 
> OK, check CCO, no record of any such command as show ip
> protocol-discovery
> in any command reference I check. A search of CCO for the 
phrase reveals
> nothing.
> 
> now what?
> 
> the IOS version in question is:
> 
> r2#sh ver
> Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-JS56I-M), Version 12.1(5)T10,  
RELEASE
> SOFTWARE (f
> c2)
> 
> sigh. have not run into this before, not in two trips through 
the lab,
> not
> on any number of routers and IOS versions, both at home and 
in customer
> installations.
> 
> Anyone got any clue what show IP protocol-discovery does?
> 
> sheesh.. another good shortcut down the tubes.
> 
> Chuck
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RE: Help with access server [7:31801]

2002-01-13 Thread Stephane Wantou Siantou

Yes, my octal cable has RJG-45 ens, with each end numbered.  I
connected end #1 to RouterA, end #2 to RouterB and so forth.  When I do "sh
sessions" on the access server, I get "No connections open".  When I try
to connect to any of the routers through the access server, it says,  
"Trying RouterXA (172.16.1.1, 2001)... Open" and it hangs there
indefinitely, even when I press "enter".  It never connects to RouterX.

2509# RouterA
Trying RouterA (172.16.1.1, 2001)... Open

Do you have any idea what the problem could be?
Thanks,
Stephane

On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Daniel Cotts wrote:

> Config look ok.
> Your octal cable has RJ-45 ends? Is each end numbered?
> Is end #1 going to the console port of RouterA, end#2 going to RouterB,
etc?
> Do a "show sessions". If you are not connected to any router you should
get:
> 2509#sh sess
> % No connections open
> If you do have open sessions then disconnect them one at a time:
> 2509#disc 1
> Closing connection to RouterA [confirm]
> 2509#disc 2
> Closing connection to RouterB [confirm]
> Another way to check for busy lines is to do a "show line"
> If you see asterisks in front of the lines - then do a disconnect line #. 
> When you type in "RouterA" what sort of response do you get?
> 2509#RouterA
> Trying RouterA (172.16.1.1, 2001)... Open
> If you get the above then hit "enter" once or twice.
> That should get you to the prompt of the console port of RouterA.
> Let us know if this doesn't work.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Stephane Wantou Siantou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:13 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Help with access server [7:31801]
> > 
> > 
> > Hi everybody,
> > I am trying to configure a Cisco 2509 access server to access 
> > my 3 routers
> > RouterA, RouterB,and RouterC so that I don't have to use the 
> > console cable
> > to access each
> > router.  But it doesn't
> > w work.  I am using an octal cable.  3 cables from the octal cable are
> > connected to RouterA, RouterB, and RouterC and the terminal server is
> > accessed with a console cable.  What am I doing wrong can 
> > anyone help?  Do
> > I need to configure anything on RouterA, RouterB, and RouterC to be
> > accessed from the access server? This is the configuration of the 
> > access server.
> > Thanks,
> > Stephane
> > 
> > Current configuration:
> > !
> > version 12.0
> > service timestamps debug uptime
> > service timestamps log uptime
> > no service password-encryption
> > !
> > hostname terminal_server
> > !
> > !
> > ip subnet-zero
> > ip host RouterA 2001 172.16.1.1
> > ip host RouterB 2002 172.16.1.1
> > ip host RouterC 2003 172.16.1.1
> > !
> > !
> > !
> > interface Loopback0
> >  ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.255
> >  no ip directed-broadcast
> > !
> > ip classless
> > !
> > line con 0
> >  transport input none
> > line 1 8
> >  no exec
> >  transport input all
> > line aux 0
> > line vty 0 4
> >  login
> > !
> > end




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Re: VLAN info [7:31816]

2002-01-13 Thread John Neiberger

There's a huge difference between the two.  In fact, they are 
unrelated.

Every switch has its own IP address for management purposes, 
which obviously must reside in some VLAN.  By default, the 
management VLAN is VLAN1.  In your first example, you made 
VLAN4 the management VLAN, which is why VLAN1 shutdown.  You 
can only have one active *management* VLAN interface.

In your second example, you are simply creating a local VLAN.  
Big difference!

HTH,
John



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> Hi All ,
>I was just working around on my Cisco Catalyst 2512XL 
switch , I
> was
> going thru the VLAN commands , I wanted to know the 
difference between
> creating the VLAN thru these two commands :
> 
> Switch(config)#int vlan4
> Switch(config-subif)#management
> Switch(config-subif)#^Z
> 
> the second way is by going to the vlan database mode  and 
giving the
> command
> 
> (vlan)#vlan 201 name cisco
> 
> both of them create vlan on the switch , as I understand that 
the first
> coammand makes vlan4 as the active vlan and vlan 1 shuts 
down , in the
> second mode , we can  assign the name to the vlan as well , 
is there any
> other differnce betwen them , please guide me .
> 
> thanks ,
> 
> Navin Parwal
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OT: Gawd I hate my life ;-> [7:31817]

2002-01-13 Thread Chuck Larrieu

OK, so I've been doing rack testing for some people who are going to be
going public Real Soon Now.

Got some things mocked up. Some of which relate to topics discussed on this
forum yesterday and today. I need to check something and issue the command
"show ip prot" enter.

r2#sh ip prot
% Ambiguous command:  "sh ip prot"
r2#

well, now...

r2#show ip prot?
protocol-discovery  protocols

r2#show ip prot

so what is "show ip protocol-discovery?

r2#sh ip protocol-discovery ?
  interface  Show for a specific interface
  protocol   Show stats about a pariticula protocol
  stats  Show Stats
  top-n  Show Top-N protocols by bytes
  |  Output modifiers
  

OK. so a command I've been using since 11.2 is no longer valid. except that
it is on other routers.

but look - still good on other routers:

r3#sh ip prot?
protocols

r3#sh ip prot


OK, check CCO, no record of any such command as show ip protocol-discovery
in any command reference I check. A search of CCO for the phrase reveals
nothing.

now what?

the IOS version in question is:

r2#sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-JS56I-M), Version 12.1(5)T10,  RELEASE
SOFTWARE (f
c2)

sigh. have not run into this before, not in two trips through the lab, not
on any number of routers and IOS versions, both at home and in customer
installations.

Anyone got any clue what show IP protocol-discovery does?

sheesh.. another good shortcut down the tubes.

Chuck




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VLAN info [7:31816]

2002-01-13 Thread NKP

Hi All ,
   I was just working around on my Cisco Catalyst 2512XL switch , I was
going thru the VLAN commands , I wanted to know the difference between
creating the VLAN thru these two commands :

Switch(config)#int vlan4
Switch(config-subif)#management
Switch(config-subif)#^Z

the second way is by going to the vlan database mode  and giving the command

(vlan)#vlan 201 name cisco

both of them create vlan on the switch , as I understand that the first
coammand makes vlan4 as the active vlan and vlan 1 shuts down , in the
second mode , we can  assign the name to the vlan as well , is there any
other differnce betwen them , please guide me .

thanks ,

Navin Parwal




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Quick Eagle Products [7:31815]

2002-01-13 Thread Andras Bellak

I'm looking for anyone with experience with Quick Eagle or Digital Isle
DL5400 MUX products. If anyone has anything good or bad to say, or
information on using their Fast Forward feature, please contact me
off-list.

Thanks,
Andras




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Re: EIGRP 'default network' Rehash [7:31799]

2002-01-13 Thread Chuck Larrieu

without knowing your configs, I can't say for sure, but in fooling with this
a bit after reading this post, I believe you may have run into a classful
issue on the default-network.

in a simple linear setup R5R1-R3 observe the R3 routing table:


 *   100.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
D   100.1.25.0 [90/304128] via 172.10.15.5, 00:09:32, TokenRing0/0
 172.10.0.0/29 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   172.10.15.0 is directly connected, TokenRing0/0
D*   199.1.1.0/24 [90/304128] via 172.10.15.5, 00:09:32, TokenRing0/0
 181.37.0.0/27 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   181.37.13.0 is directly connected, Serial1/1
r1#

note that the 100.0.0.0 classfull network is flagged as a candidate default,
as is the classful 199.1.1.1 network. but the EIGRP route that has been
learned is a subnet of the 100 net - 100.1.25.0/24 to be precise.

now check the R3 routing table:


 100.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
D   100.1.25.0 [90/20656128] via 181.37.13.1, 00:10:45, Serial1/1
 172.10.0.0/29 is subnetted, 1 subnets
D   172.10.15.0 [90/20528128] via 181.37.13.1, 00:10:45, Serial1/1
D*   199.1.1.0/24 [90/20656128] via 181.37.13.1, 00:10:45, Serial1/1
 181.37.0.0/27 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   181.37.13.0 is directly connected, Serial1/1

note that the 100 network is not flagged, but the 199.1.1.0/24 network is.

as a sanity check, I added another router into the line, set up two
loopbacks - one using 135.35.1.1/24 and the other using 155.55.1.1/16
not from the following that there are two candidate defaults on R2: ( plus
the 199 advertised from the other end of the line. note the similar issue
with the classful versus non classfull breakdown of the two candidates.

 100.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
D   100.1.25.0 [90/21168128] via 192.200.23.3, 00:02:09, Serial1/1
C*   155.55.0.0/16 is directly connected, Loopback102
 172.10.0.0/29 is subnetted, 1 subnets
D   172.10.15.0 [90/21040128] via 192.200.23.3, 00:02:09, Serial1/1
D*   199.1.1.0/24 [90/21168128] via 192.200.23.3, 00:02:09, Serial1/1
C192.200.23.0/24 is directly connected, Serial1/1
 181.37.0.0/27 is subnetted, 1 subnets
D   181.37.13.0 [90/21024000] via 192.200.23.3, 00:02:09, Serial1/1
 *   135.35.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   135.35.1.0 is directly connected, Loopback101
r2#


now check the R3 table again - note that the classful default only shows up:

 100.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
D   100.1.25.0 [90/20656128] via 181.37.13.1, 00:42:38, Serial1/1
D*   155.55.0.0/16 [90/2064] via 192.200.23.2, 00:03:40, Serial1/2
 172.10.0.0/29 is subnetted, 1 subnets
D   172.10.15.0 [90/20528128] via 181.37.13.1, 00:42:38, Serial1/1
D*   199.1.1.0/24 [90/20656128] via 181.37.13.1, 00:42:38, Serial1/1
C192.200.23.0/24 is directly connected, Serial1/2
 181.37.0.0/27 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   181.37.13.0 is directly connected, Serial1/1
 135.35.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
D   135.35.1.0 [90/2064] via 192.200.23.2, 00:04:05, Serial1/2
r3#

So to summarize ( so to speak ) EIGRP does indeed advertise the default
network throughout the domain. But there are still things to be aware of.

Chuck



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> Sorry to bring this up again but apparently, for at least some of us, it
> needs to be.  I chimed in the other day and offered a way to get EIGRP to
> distribute a default route.  That basically amounted to simply defining a
> static to 0.0.0.0 and redistributing static into EIGRP (whoever corrected
me
> by pointing out that the 'network 0.0.0.0' command isn't necessary, I
thank
> you (it was in BSCN)).
>
> Wayne jumped in and explained some problems with EIGRP and the 'ip
> default-network' command.  I thought it all sounded quite reasonable.  So
I
> tried this in the lab for several hours today (no "get a life" remarks
> please).  I must be really dense, because nothing I try works quite the
way
> (that I thought) it was described.  It seems that the only way to
> sucessfully use the default-network is to configure it on every single
> router in the AS (I tried this with RIP just as a sanity check and it
worked
> just fine).
>
> If that is the case, can a good argument be made in favor of this approach
> over redistributing static?  Or summarizing to 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 on an
> interface?  Both of those, at least, propogate throughout the AS after
> configuration on just one router.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Scott




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RE: ISDN dialer watch VS floating static routes [7:31609]

2002-01-13 Thread Charlie Wehner

Thanks for the advice Benjamin and Jenny.

It sounds like you have to be careful when implementing dialer watch. 
(Especially, if you only want to bring up the link for 'interesting
traffic'.  I guess since 'dialer watch' is fairly new most people have
'floating static routes' in place.


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RE: Help with access server [7:31801]

2002-01-13 Thread Daniel Cotts

Config look ok.
Your octal cable has RJ-45 ends? Is each end numbered?
Is end #1 going to the console port of RouterA, end#2 going to RouterB, etc?
Do a "show sessions". If you are not connected to any router you should get:
2509#sh sess
% No connections open
If you do have open sessions then disconnect them one at a time:
2509#disc 1
Closing connection to RouterA [confirm]
2509#disc 2
Closing connection to RouterB [confirm]
Another way to check for busy lines is to do a "show line"
If you see asterisks in front of the lines - then do a disconnect line #. 
When you type in "RouterA" what sort of response do you get?
2509#RouterA
Trying RouterA (172.16.1.1, 2001)... Open
If you get the above then hit "enter" once or twice.
That should get you to the prompt of the console port of RouterA.
Let us know if this doesn't work.

> -Original Message-
> From: Stephane Wantou Siantou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Help with access server [7:31801]
> 
> 
> Hi everybody,
> I am trying to configure a Cisco 2509 access server to access 
> my 3 routers
> RouterA, RouterB,and RouterC so that I don't have to use the 
> console cable
> to access each
> router.  But it doesn't
> w work.  I am using an octal cable.  3 cables from the octal cable are
> connected to RouterA, RouterB, and RouterC and the terminal server is
> accessed with a console cable.  What am I doing wrong can 
> anyone help?  Do
> I need to configure anything on RouterA, RouterB, and RouterC to be
> accessed from the access server? This is the configuration of the 
> access server.
> Thanks,
> Stephane
> 
> Current configuration:
> !
> version 12.0
> service timestamps debug uptime
> service timestamps log uptime
> no service password-encryption
> !
> hostname terminal_server
> !
> !
> ip subnet-zero
> ip host RouterA 2001 172.16.1.1
> ip host RouterB 2002 172.16.1.1
> ip host RouterC 2003 172.16.1.1
> !
> !
> !
> interface Loopback0
>  ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.255
>  no ip directed-broadcast
> !
> ip classless
> !
> line con 0
>  transport input none
> line 1 8
>  no exec
>  transport input all
> line aux 0
> line vty 0 4
>  login
> !
> end




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Re: router cannot see host [7:31800]

2002-01-13 Thread Router Man

enable "debug ip packet detail" on the router to see if the router is even
making an attempt to send the packet out.  Also, Do you have more than one
NIC on your workstation?

""LaRoy Slaughter""  wrote in message
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> I know this is a RTFM type question but for the life of me I cannot
> figure out why the router cannot ping the work station, but the
> workstation can ping and telnet to the router




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Re: Help with access server [7:31801]

2002-01-13 Thread Router Man

When you say that "it doesn't work", what exactly are the symptoms?

""Stephane Wantou Siantou""  wrote in message
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> Hi everybody,
> I am trying to configure a Cisco 2509 access server to access my 3 routers
> RouterA, RouterB,and RouterC so that I don't have to use the console cable
> to access each
> router.  But it doesn't
> w work.  I am using an octal cable.  3 cables from the octal cable are
> connected to RouterA, RouterB, and RouterC and the terminal server is
> accessed with a console cable.  What am I doing wrong can anyone help?  Do
> I need to configure anything on RouterA, RouterB, and RouterC to be
> accessed from the access server? This is the configuration of the
> access server.
> Thanks,
> Stephane
>
> Current configuration:
> !
> version 12.0
> service timestamps debug uptime
> service timestamps log uptime
> no service password-encryption
> !
> hostname terminal_server
> !
> !
> ip subnet-zero
> ip host RouterA 2001 172.16.1.1
> ip host RouterB 2002 172.16.1.1
> ip host RouterC 2003 172.16.1.1
> !
> !
> !
> interface Loopback0
>  ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.255
>  no ip directed-broadcast
> !
> ip classless
> !
> line con 0
>  transport input none
> line 1 8
>  no exec
>  transport input all
> line aux 0
> line vty 0 4
>  login
> !
> end




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RE: ISDN dialer watch VS floating static routes [7:31609]

2002-01-13 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler

I agree with Jenny's comments.  I've also used floating-statics for quite
some time to backup frame links.  I was playing around with dialer watch in
the lab this weekend and it does some 'interesting' things...

For one, it seems to do away with the "interesting traffic" requirement.  If
the main link goes down and any of the routes in the watch list disappear,
the backup link will be brought on-line.

I can think of a couple of reasons why this would be attractive but by the
same token, it could get rather expensive especially if you have large
blocks of time where nothing is going across the line - nights/weekends -
but it's still up.

With the floating static method, you can utilize time-based ACLs to specify
your interesting traffic thus minimizing the impact of a circuit outage over
a weekend for example.

Definitely try them both out in a lab though; I intend to kick the tires of
dialer watch a bit more myself.

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Subject: Re: ISDN dialer watch VS floating static routes [7:31609]


I have always used floating statics to back up a frame relay network.
Why?
Easy - we're only just migrating to IOS 12.1.  And anyway, this particular
network has been using floating static routes for the last several years
(since *long* before dialer watch was available) - they are flexible, suit
the network topology and design, and they work.  And our support mob are
familiar with them, which is also a useful reason to keep using them.
I'd look more closely at dialer watch for a brand new network or major
redesign, but right now I personally have no good reasons for changing.
YMMV.
JMcL




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nobody@groups

tudy.com



11/01/2002
12:49
pm

Please
respond
to

"Charlie

Wehner"






When configuring an ISDN backup for a frame relay circuit do most people
typically use "dialer watch" or "floating static routes".  In my scenerio,
it's for an eigrp network and a single router.

I've seen the following article on Cisco's website:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/123/backup-main.html

However, all things being equal, which one would you use?

Thanks in advance,
Charlie




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Re: exams needed for the CCDP [7:31795]

2002-01-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

While both these exams are required for the CCDP, and it is usually
sensible to do them in the order given by Gaz, you do not need to have done
the DCN before sitting the CID.  You can do them in either order.  But you
won't be a CCDP until you do both.

JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 14/01/2002 02:04 pm -
   

   
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14/01/2002
10:44
am
   
Please
respond
to
   
"Gaz"
   

   





640-441 DCN to make you a CCDA (pre-requisite for CCDP)

then,

640-025 CID


Gaz

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>
> Ko Haag




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Re: router cannot see host [7:31800]

2002-01-13 Thread LaRoy Slaughter

when I do a sh arp I can see a layer 2 connection > The router sees the host
both as a
MaC and by IP. when I do a sh ip route it identifies the path to the host

Craig Columbus wrote:

> I think we need more info.  In the meantime, here's a possibility:
>
> When pinging from the workstation to the router, you're hitting a locally
> attached interface on the router (one on the same subnet).
> When pinging from the router to the workstation, the ping is originating
> from an interface other than the one that is local to the workstation.
> Try an extended ping from the router, specifying the locally attached
> interface as the source and see if the pings succeed.
> If so, verify that both the subnet mask and the default gateway on the
> workstation are set correctly.
>
> Craig
>
> At 07:43 PM 1/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >I know this is a RTFM type question but for the life of me I cannot
> >figure out why the router cannot ping the work station, but the
> >workstation can ping and telnet to the router




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Re: router cannot see host [7:31800]

2002-01-13 Thread LaRoy Slaughter

the sh arp comes back with the mac and ip of the workstation

Zeke Gibson wrote:

> Are you running some type of software firewall on the workstation?
>
> What does the ARP cache on the router look like?
>
> -Zeke
>
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, LaRoy Slaughter wrote:
>
> > I know this is a RTFM type question but for the life of me I cannot
> > figure out why the router cannot ping the work station, but the
> > workstation can ping and telnet to the router




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RE: Help with access server [7:31801]

2002-01-13 Thread s vermill

Stephane,

I would start by adding 'modem inout' on lines 1 - 8.  As for the octal
cable, that may be a problem too.  You might need a rollover in the mix? 
Not sure off hand.

Regards,

Scott


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Re: router cannot see host [7:31800]

2002-01-13 Thread Zeke Gibson

Are you running some type of software firewall on the workstation?

What does the ARP cache on the router look like?

-Zeke

On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, LaRoy Slaughter wrote:

> I know this is a RTFM type question but for the life of me I cannot
> figure out why the router cannot ping the work station, but the
> workstation can ping and telnet to the router




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Re: router cannot see host [7:31800]

2002-01-13 Thread Craig Columbus

I think we need more info.  In the meantime, here's a possibility:

When pinging from the workstation to the router, you're hitting a locally 
attached interface on the router (one on the same subnet).
When pinging from the router to the workstation, the ping is originating 
from an interface other than the one that is local to the workstation.
Try an extended ping from the router, specifying the locally attached 
interface as the source and see if the pings succeed.
If so, verify that both the subnet mask and the default gateway on the 
workstation are set correctly.

Craig

At 07:43 PM 1/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I know this is a RTFM type question but for the life of me I cannot
>figure out why the router cannot ping the work station, but the
>workstation can ping and telnet to the router




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RE: exams needed for the CCDP [7:31795]

2002-01-13 Thread Juan Blanco

Ko,
You need to take the CCDA and then the CID...take it in that order it will
help...
Good luck.
JB

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I have passed the CCNP and was wondering what exam are needed to get the
CCDP?  Anyone know?

Ko Haag




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Help with access server [7:31801]

2002-01-13 Thread Stephane Wantou Siantou

Hi everybody,
I am trying to configure a Cisco 2509 access server to access my 3 routers
RouterA, RouterB,and RouterC so that I don't have to use the console cable
to access each
router.  But it doesn't
w work.  I am using an octal cable.  3 cables from the octal cable are
connected to RouterA, RouterB, and RouterC and the terminal server is
accessed with a console cable.  What am I doing wrong can anyone help?  Do
I need to configure anything on RouterA, RouterB, and RouterC to be
accessed from the access server? This is the configuration of the 
access server.
Thanks,
Stephane

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname terminal_server
!
!
ip subnet-zero
ip host RouterA 2001 172.16.1.1
ip host RouterB 2002 172.16.1.1
ip host RouterC 2003 172.16.1.1
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
 ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.255
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
ip classless
!
line con 0
 transport input none
line 1 8
 no exec
 transport input all
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 login
!
end




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router cannot see host [7:31800]

2002-01-13 Thread LaRoy Slaughter

I know this is a RTFM type question but for the life of me I cannot
figure out why the router cannot ping the work station, but the
workstation can ping and telnet to the router




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EIGRP 'default network' Rehash [7:31799]

2002-01-13 Thread s vermill

Sorry to bring this up again but apparently, for at least some of us, it
needs to be.  I chimed in the other day and offered a way to get EIGRP to
distribute a default route.  That basically amounted to simply defining a
static to 0.0.0.0 and redistributing static into EIGRP (whoever corrected me
by pointing out that the 'network 0.0.0.0' command isn't necessary, I thank
you (it was in BSCN)).

Wayne jumped in and explained some problems with EIGRP and the 'ip
default-network' command.  I thought it all sounded quite reasonable.  So I
tried this in the lab for several hours today (no "get a life" remarks
please).  I must be really dense, because nothing I try works quite the way
(that I thought) it was described.  It seems that the only way to
sucessfully use the default-network is to configure it on every single
router in the AS (I tried this with RIP just as a sanity check and it worked
just fine).

If that is the case, can a good argument be made in favor of this approach
over redistributing static?  Or summarizing to 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 on an
interface?  Both of those, at least, propogate throughout the AS after
configuration on just one router.

Thanks in advance,

Scott


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Re: ISDN dialer watch VS floating static routes [7:31609]

2002-01-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have always used floating statics to back up a frame relay network.
Why?
Easy - we're only just migrating to IOS 12.1.  And anyway, this particular
network has been using floating static routes for the last several years
(since *long* before dialer watch was available) - they are flexible, suit
the network topology and design, and they work.  And our support mob are
familiar with them, which is also a useful reason to keep using them.
I'd look more closely at dialer watch for a brand new network or major
redesign, but right now I personally have no good reasons for changing.
YMMV.
JMcL


   

   
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When configuring an ISDN backup for a frame relay circuit do most people
typically use "dialer watch" or "floating static routes".  In my scenerio,
it's for an eigrp network and a single router.

I've seen the following article on Cisco's website:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/123/backup-main.html

However, all things being equal, which one would you use?

Thanks in advance,
Charlie




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RE: Practice Labs [7:31721]

2002-01-13 Thread Rukmal Fernando

The Lab that is designed for Time Zones

Rack start times
1-15th of each month 7 am EST
16-31st of each month 7 am GMT

1st and 15th of each month the 7pm-7am will not be available for the other
time zone due to time zone change.

We will accormodate next day rack rentals on different time zones if
availabe. This will be available unless no users are schueduled the next day.

Thanks


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Re: exams needed for the CCDP [7:31795]

2002-01-13 Thread Gaz

640-441 DCN to make you a CCDA (pre-requisite for CCDP)

then,

640-025 CID


Gaz

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> CCDP?  Anyone know?
>
> Ko Haag




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Re: RE: you bad boys and girls... [7:31777]

2002-01-13 Thread John Neiberger

And I'm sitting here working on a ccbootcamp lab.  Since the 
Broncos aren't in the playoffs I just don't feel like 
watching.  :-)

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> Chuck,
> 
> I wish! I'm configuring MPLS in the EDS lab today for a 
project that is
> due
> tomorrow. 
> 
> Shawn K.
> 
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> Subject: OT: you bad boys and girls... [7:31777]
> 
> 
> to judge from the lack of traffic on the list, I gather you 
bad boys and
> girls are watching football instead of studying.
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> 



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RE: copyright config [7:31774]

2002-01-13 Thread Steven A Ridder

I was listening to an NPR newscast on something to do with copywriting
when I thought of it.  Patents too.  What if you claim to come up with a
novel way of figuring out a routing problem within the IOS, I wonder if
you could patent it?  I've seen business-practices patented
(priceline.com, Amazon's 1-click shopping, etc., even patents for RFC's!




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you know, you have a good point there.  it is something you technically
create.  you bring up an interesting idea.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
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> Can you copyright a config?  Has anyone ever heard of it?
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Re: Can Cisco manuals from CIT class legally sold? [7:31788]

2002-01-13 Thread David L. Blair

It happens all the time. Check out Ebay.  As long as they are the original
copy that should not be a problem.


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exams needed for the CCDP [7:31795]

2002-01-13 Thread ko haag

I have passed the CCNP and was wondering what exam are needed to get the
CCDP?  Anyone know?

Ko Haag




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RE: RE: OSPF and The Disappearing Neighbor Statement [7:31656]

2002-01-13 Thread John Neiberger

That's it!  Wow, very cool.  That's really been bugging me.  I 
posted it to the TAC Open Q&A Forum, so we'll see if they come 
up with the right answer!  :-)

Thanks for letting me know about that, I appreciate it.

John

 On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Stefan Dozier 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> John, I've been following your thread and think I found a 
possible
> answer
> to your question on why the neighbor statement gets ignored 
when entered
> on spoke routers!
> 
> In the OSPF Desig Guide "Section 1" under "Adjacencies on Non-
Broadcast
> Multi-Access (NBMA) Networks" the next to last statement in 
the
> paragraph
> gives us a clue.
> 
> "The neighbor command applies to routers with a potential of 
being DRs
> or
> BDRs
> (interface priority not equal to 0)."
> 
> So to test that theory, I changed the priority on one of my 
spokes to 1
> from 0 and viola, it takes the neighbor statement just fine. 
Prior to
> changing the interface priority I could enter the neighbor 
statement
> under
> the OSPF process, but it didn't show up in the config.
> 
> Spoke Router:
> 
> interface Serial0
>  ip address 192.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
>  no ip directed-broadcast
>  encapsulation frame-relay IETF
>  logging event subif-link-status
>  logging event dlci-status-change
>  frame-relay map ip 192.1.1.2 100 broadcast
>  frame-relay map ip 192.1.1.3 100 broadcast
>  frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> !
> router ospf 64
>  network 192.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>  neighbor 192.1.1.2
> 
> Hub Router:
> 
> interface Serial0
>  ip address 192.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
>  encapsulation frame-relay IETF
>  frame-relay map ip 192.1.1.1 100 broadcast
>  frame-relay map ip 192.1.1.3 200 broadcast
>  frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> !
> router ospf 64
>  log-adjacency-changes
>  network 2.2.2.2 0.0.0.0 area 0
>  network 192.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>  neighbor 192.1.1.3
>  neighbor 192.1.1.1 priority 1  I thought you only need the 
neighbor
> statement on one side of
> the
> > connection?
> >
> > Once a router accepts the hello, adjacencies are formed with
> information
> > from the hello via unicast communication from that point
> forward.
> >
> > Sort of like if I shout over a hill, "Hey Routerman are you
> there, this
> > is
> > Jim." Then you would respond back to me by name.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Router Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 10:28 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: OSPF and The Disappearing Neighbor Statement
> [7:31656]
> >
> >
> > I was able to reproduce your exact scenario.  I had a hub
> with two
> > spokes
> > and the neighbor statements only appeared on the hub. This 
is
> very
> > interesting and I'm not sure what the reason behind it is.  
I
> am glad
> > that
> > this was brought up, because I would love to get to the
> bottom of this
> > situation.  I'll keep you posted ""John Neiberger""  wrote 
in
> message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > The network statement definitely was there, but the
> neighbor
> > > statements would only appear on the hub router.
> Interestingly, I just
> >
> > > saw a sample configuration similar to this on CCO and they
> only had
> > > the neighbor statement on one router, not both.  I think 
as
> long as
> > > one router has a neighbor statement configured, the
> adjacency will
> > > form assuming all other things being equal (network type,
> etc.)
> > >
> > > The adjacencies formed but I had to cycle the interfaces 
to
> get things
> > > started.   Even if the neighbor statement is only required
> on one
> > side,
> > > I still don't understand why the router wouldn't let me 
add
> it.  The
> > > adjacencies would eventually form, however, and routing
> occurred
> > > exactly as I expected it.
> > >
> > > I did notice a minor issue with the neighbor statements on
> the hub.  I
> >
> > > had three of them, and one of them inserted 'priority 1' 
at
> the end,
> > > yet the other two remained as I entered them.
> > >
> > > >>> "Router Man"  1/11/02 3:08:03 PM >>>
> > > The only time that the "neighbor" statement will not show
> up in the
> > > running-config, is if you do not have a "network" 
statement
> under the
> > > "router ospf" process.  I am doubting that the neighbors
> formed an
> > > adjacency without the neigbor or network statements 
showing
> up under
> > > the ospf config.
> > > If the adjacency was actually formed, then it must be a 
bug.
> > >
> > > Another thing that I have noticed is than when trying to
> use the
> > > neighbor statement to set the priority, "neighbor 1.1.1.1
> priority
> > > 255" the priority
> > > will change to something other than what I set it too.  It
> took me a
> > > while
> > > to figure this one out.   The problem is that I have to
> have matching
> > > "ip
> > > ospf priority 255" statements under the interfaces running
> ospf .
> > > ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > It was hot, too hot.  Our detective had been

RE: RE: OSPF and The Disappearing Neighbor Statement [7:31656]

2002-01-13 Thread Stefan Dozier

John, I've been following your thread and think I found a possible answer
to your question on why the neighbor statement gets ignored when entered
on spoke routers!

In the OSPF Desig Guide "Section 1" under "Adjacencies on Non-Broadcast
Multi-Access (NBMA) Networks" the next to last statement in the paragraph
gives us a clue.

"The neighbor command applies to routers with a potential of being DRs or
BDRs
(interface priority not equal to 0)."

So to test that theory, I changed the priority on one of my spokes to 1
from 0 and viola, it takes the neighbor statement just fine. Prior to
changing the interface priority I could enter the neighbor statement under
the OSPF process, but it didn't show up in the config.

Spoke Router:

interface Serial0
 ip address 192.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation frame-relay IETF
 logging event subif-link-status
 logging event dlci-status-change
 frame-relay map ip 192.1.1.2 100 broadcast
 frame-relay map ip 192.1.1.3 100 broadcast
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
!
router ospf 64
 network 192.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 neighbor 192.1.1.2

Hub Router:

interface Serial0
 ip address 192.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation frame-relay IETF
 frame-relay map ip 192.1.1.1 100 broadcast
 frame-relay map ip 192.1.1.3 200 broadcast
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
!
router ospf 64
 log-adjacency-changes
 network 2.2.2.2 0.0.0.0 area 0
 network 192.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 neighbor 192.1.1.3
 neighbor 192.1.1.1 priority 1  I thought you only need the neighbor
statement on one side of
the
> connection?
>
> Once a router accepts the hello, adjacencies are formed with
information
> from the hello via unicast communication from that point
forward.
>
> Sort of like if I shout over a hill, "Hey Routerman are you
there, this
> is
> Jim." Then you would respond back to me by name.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Router Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 10:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OSPF and The Disappearing Neighbor Statement
[7:31656]
>
>
> I was able to reproduce your exact scenario.  I had a hub
with two
> spokes
> and the neighbor statements only appeared on the hub. This is
very
> interesting and I'm not sure what the reason behind it is.  I
am glad
> that
> this was brought up, because I would love to get to the
bottom of this
> situation.  I'll keep you posted ""John Neiberger""  wrote in
message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > The network statement definitely was there, but the
neighbor
> > statements would only appear on the hub router.
Interestingly, I just
>
> > saw a sample configuration similar to this on CCO and they
only had
> > the neighbor statement on one router, not both.  I think as
long as
> > one router has a neighbor statement configured, the
adjacency will
> > form assuming all other things being equal (network type,
etc.)
> >
> > The adjacencies formed but I had to cycle the interfaces to
get things
> > started.   Even if the neighbor statement is only required
on one
> side,
> > I still don't understand why the router wouldn't let me add
it.  The
> > adjacencies would eventually form, however, and routing
occurred
> > exactly as I expected it.
> >
> > I did notice a minor issue with the neighbor statements on
the hub.  I
>
> > had three of them, and one of them inserted 'priority 1' at
the end,
> > yet the other two remained as I entered them.
> >
> > >>> "Router Man"  1/11/02 3:08:03 PM >>>
> > The only time that the "neighbor" statement will not show
up in the
> > running-config, is if you do not have a "network" statement
under the
> > "router ospf" process.  I am doubting that the neighbors
formed an
> > adjacency without the neigbor or network statements showing
up under
> > the ospf config.
> > If the adjacency was actually formed, then it must be a bug.
> >
> > Another thing that I have noticed is than when trying to
use the
> > neighbor statement to set the priority, "neighbor 1.1.1.1
priority
> > 255" the priority
> > will change to something other than what I set it too.  It
took me a
> > while
> > to figure this one out.   The problem is that I have to
have matching
> > "ip
> > ospf priority 255" statements under the interfaces running
ospf .
> > ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > It was hot, too hot.  Our detective had been working
feverishly to
> > > configure OSPF over NBMA without the use of ip ospf
network
> > statements.
> > > He knew that to do this he must explicitly add neighbor
statements
> > or
> > > adjacencies would not form.
> > >
> > > He logs into the hub router and types in his three
neighbor
> > statements.
> > >  All seems well.  It's still too hot, but it's a dry heat.
> > >
> > > He now logs into one of the spoke routers and types in
his neighbor
> > > statement.  He pauses momentarily and then checks the OSPF
> > adjacencies.
> > > Something seems to be wrong, he thinks to himself.  This
ought to

RE: OT: you bad boys and girls... [7:31777]

2002-01-13 Thread Mike Sweeney

Whats football?  the other half is the football nut. Me? I was down at the
hardware store digging up some clips and screws for my new rack I bought
yesterday :)

MikeS
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OT: you bad boys and girls... [7:31777]

2002-01-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Football??
Not a chance.
Cricket!

JMcL
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to judge from the lack of traffic on the list, I gather you bad boys and
girls are watching football instead of studying.




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RE: you bad boys and girls... [7:31777]

2002-01-13 Thread Ed Chuchaisri

Well, I admit I was watching football there and wasted my 3 precious hours
on a brutal sport.  The result, however, didn't come up to be what I wanted
though...

Oh well...  Back to studying..

Ed
A Big Red & Gold Fan


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Can Cisco manuals from CIT class legally sold? [7:31788]

2002-01-13 Thread DL

Does anyone know if the manuals from the authorized CIT class can
legally be sold?  Please note, these are the original manuals (Lab
manual and work books).  Would this violate any rules of the CCNP
agreement?




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RE: Summarization [7:31766]

2002-01-13 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler

I've done it with about 100 interfaces on 7513's and didn't see this
problem.  It may be a limitation of the code on the box, memory (as you
indicated), or something else.  Have you been able to rule-out as many
"something elses" as possible?

What does the network topology look like?  Do you have redundancy in place -
e.g. spoke routers connected to two different hub routers?  Are you getting
a lot of SIAs?  Routes flapping, etc.?  How's the CPU on your RSP's looking?
Free memory?  Buffer misses?

There's a common view that EIGRP works fine and can scale infinitely big
without going through all of the steps that you'd have to go through for a
large-scale OSPF installation.
Obviously, this thought is very wrong.

I'm guessing that you need to do manual summarization on 200 interfaces per
box is because you don't have clearly-defined summarization points in the
network - that's the situation I was in when I had to do it on ~100
interfaces.  For good or ill, EIGRP will work with a bad network design (I'm
speaking from an ideal perspective - please don't be offended, we all have
to things at one time or another that are considered "bad") up until a
point.  Beyond that point, it gets really ugly - quickly.

In the network I was working on we had 140 sites connected without problems.
We started adding more offices and by the time we hit 170 the network was
totally unstable.  After several weeks of P1/CAP cases we met with the guys
who write the code and found out what we were doing wrong - they have since
published several CiscoPress books on EIGRP; none existed four years ago :)

You can "band-aid" a broken network by using a lot of the EIGRP features
(manual summarization, distribute-lists, etc.).  In my case that's exactly
what we did, unfortunately, I was not given the opportunity to correct the
mistakes that required the band-aids.  I have since moved on to new
challenges but that network is still in the same state - four years later.

Anyhow, if you can offer more specifics, I'm sure those of us on the list
would be happy to comment and offer suggestions.  I think that if we can
solve the reason you need to manually summarize on 200 interfaces you'll be
better off down the road.

Ben

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Hello folks,
I'm working in a EIGRP enviroment, and I have some questions for you:

Has anyone tried to do a manual route sumarization per interface with more
or less 200 interfaces in a 7500?
I've tried but I'm having a few problems, the summary routes aren't
advertised sufficiently fast to the routers in branch offices.
The summary routes are sometimes marked as "possibly down" in the routers of
branch offices, sometimes are up and sometimes are down.

Do you know any relationship between memory or cpu (or whatever) of the 7500
and number of interfaces in which you can perform manual summarization?

David




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RE: GBIC ??? [7:31770]

2002-01-13 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler

Actually, both are "fabric-enabled."

In the main 65xx box you have the 32Gb/s backplane (BUS) and now you can
also take advantage of the "Switch Fabric" to bump your capacity up to
256Gb/s.  Regarding the different 16-port GBIC cards you have three options:

6416 - BUS-only (32Gb/s) - SUP handles all packet forwarding
6516 - BUS and fabric (single fabric attachment) (up to 256Gb/s*) - SUP
handles forwarding by default but an optional daughter card can be added to
upgrade to dCEF.
6816 - fabric only (dual fabric attachments) (256Gb/s) - dCEF only;
integrated daughter card.

Here's a link that talks more about the different options:

http://cco.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/prodlit/c60ge_ds.htm

Obviously, to take advantage of the switch fabric you need SFMs (Switch
Fabric Modules) in the chassis (two to be redundant).

* I seem to recall when these products were introduced to me by our local
Cisco team someone said that the 6500-series cards (for the 6500-series
chassis, it's a bit confusing - you'd think they could use another number) -
e.g. 6516 listed above - were only capable of doing 128Gb/s because they
were only attached to a single switch fabric and that to do the full 256Gb/s
you'd need the fabric-only cards (the 6800-series modules).  Just looking
really quick, I don't see any docs on CCO that substantiate my memory so if
it matters to you, you might want to ask Cisco - perhaps my memory is
incorrect or I was given bum scoop from our Cisco reps.

Have fun.

Ben

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kenairs
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Hi Group ,
>From the cisco cd ,

WS-X6816-GBIC
   16-port fabric-enabled Gigabit Ethernet switching
module. The module has integrated distributed
   forwarding and has dual serial connections to the
switch fabric module. The module requires GBICs. GBICs
   are available in three models (SX, LX/LH, and ZX) and
have an SC-type connector for use with either MMF
   and SMF.

What is mean by the " fabric-enable Gigabit Ethernet switching module " ??
Tks

WS-X6516-GBIC
   16-port Gigabit Ethernet switching module. The module
requires GBICs. GBICs are available in three models
   (SX, LX/LH, and ZX) and have an SC-type connector for
use with either MMF and SMF.


What is the difference between " WS-X6816-GBIC ( fabric-enable ) and
WS-X6516-GBIC ?




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Re: PPTP - Conduit - Protocol 47 [7:31748]

2002-01-13 Thread Darrell Newcomb

Usually you can easily convince TAC that they should provide you with an
image which is no longer publicly listed, but which is the logical next
step for you to minimize the amount of changes to your already stable
device.  However in the face of significant bugs such as PSIRTs or what
not your request may(fairly legitimately) be turned down.

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> 
> I found out that version 4.1(7) supports GRE
> 
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/pix_v41/pixrn417.h
> tm#xtocid1224219
> 
> Unfortunately, the image is no longer on CC0 (too old).
> 
> Pierre-Alex
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Paul Lalonde
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 9:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: PPTP - Conduit - Protocol 47 [7:31748]
> 
> Pierre-Alex,
> 
> You might have an issue with that version of PIX OS. On a PIX OS of 4.2 or
> later, you can do:
> 
> conduit permit gre host  any
> conduit permit tcp host  eq 1723 any
> 
> Not sure about 4.0.7... are you not able to update this to at least 4.4 or
> something better?
> 
> Paul
> 
> ""Pierre-Alex J. Guanel""  wrote in message
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> > How do you configure a conduit to let this go through:
> >
> > Source 0.0.0.0 to Protocol Other Protocol Number 47
> >
> > I need to this in order to do PPTP through the firewall to a Windows 2000
> > machine.I am running version 4.0.7 on the PIX and the conduit only have
> > option for tcp or udp. See below from the Cisco documentation:
> >
> > conduit global_ip port[-port] udp|tcp ip_address [netmask]
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Pierre-Alex




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Re: RE: OSPF and The Disappearing Neighbor Statement [7:31656]

2002-01-13 Thread John Neiberger

I think you're correct about that.  What I don't get is why 
some of the routers flat out ignore the neighbor statement.  
Even if it's not absolutely necessary, why--in some cases-would 
they ignore it?

I posted this on the TAC Q&A Forum.  I'm hoping someone will 
have an answer there.

John



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 On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Jim Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> I thought you only need the neighbor statement on one side of 
the
> connection? 
> 
> Once a router accepts the hello, adjacencies are formed with 
information
> from the hello via unicast communication from that point 
forward.
> 
> Sort of like if I shout over a hill, "Hey Routerman are you 
there, this
> is
> Jim." Then you would respond back to me by name.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Router Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 10:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OSPF and The Disappearing Neighbor Statement 
[7:31656]
> 
> 
> I was able to reproduce your exact scenario.  I had a hub 
with two
> spokes
> and the neighbor statements only appeared on the hub. This is 
very
> interesting and I'm not sure what the reason behind it is.  I 
am glad
> that
> this was brought up, because I would love to get to the 
bottom of this
> situation.  I'll keep you posted ""John Neiberger""  wrote in 
message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > The network statement definitely was there, but the 
neighbor 
> > statements would only appear on the hub router.  
Interestingly, I just
> 
> > saw a sample configuration similar to this on CCO and they 
only had 
> > the neighbor statement on one router, not both.  I think as 
long as 
> > one router has a neighbor statement configured, the 
adjacency will 
> > form assuming all other things being equal (network type, 
etc.)
> >
> > The adjacencies formed but I had to cycle the interfaces to 
get things
> > started.   Even if the neighbor statement is only required 
on one
> side,
> > I still don't understand why the router wouldn't let me add 
it.  The 
> > adjacencies would eventually form, however, and routing 
occurred 
> > exactly as I expected it.
> >
> > I did notice a minor issue with the neighbor statements on 
the hub.  I
> 
> > had three of them, and one of them inserted 'priority 1' at 
the end, 
> > yet the other two remained as I entered them.
> >
> > >>> "Router Man"  1/11/02 3:08:03 PM >>>
> > The only time that the "neighbor" statement will not show 
up in the 
> > running-config, is if you do not have a "network" statement 
under the 
> > "router ospf" process.  I am doubting that the neighbors 
formed an 
> > adjacency without the neigbor or network statements showing 
up under 
> > the ospf config.
> > If the adjacency was actually formed, then it must be a bug.
> >
> > Another thing that I have noticed is than when trying to 
use the 
> > neighbor statement to set the priority, "neighbor 1.1.1.1 
priority 
> > 255" the priority
> > will change to something other than what I set it too.  It 
took me a
> > while
> > to figure this one out.   The problem is that I have to 
have matching
> > "ip
> > ospf priority 255" statements under the interfaces running 
ospf .
> > ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > It was hot, too hot.  Our detective had been working 
feverishly to 
> > > configure OSPF over NBMA without the use of ip ospf 
network
> > statements.
> > > He knew that to do this he must explicitly add neighbor 
statements
> > or
> > > adjacencies would not form.
> > >
> > > He logs into the hub router and types in his three 
neighbor
> > statements.
> > >  All seems well.  It's still too hot, but it's a dry heat.
> > >
> > > He now logs into one of the spoke routers and types in 
his neighbor 
> > > statement.  He pauses momentarily and then checks the OSPF
> > adjacencies.
> > > Something seems to be wrong, he thinks to himself.  This 
ought to be
> 
> > > working, but it isn't.  Why not?  He looks through the 
running 
> > > config
> > to
> > > look for any errors and notices the the neighbor 
statement that he
> > just
> > > entered is missing!
> > >
> > > He slowly and deliberately types it in again making sure 
there are
> > no
> > > mistakes but yet it still does not show up in the running
> > configuration.
> > >  Is this an IOS issue?  Operator error?  Some rift in the 
space-time
> 
> > > continuum?
> > >
> > > He jumps to another spoke router running a different IOS 
and tries
> > the
> > > same thing with the same result.  He is frantic now, 
beads of sweat 
> > > pouring down his face.  What if this were the real CCIE 
lab exam?
> > Could
> > > this be a fatal stumbling block?
> > >
> > > He finally notices that adjacencies do eventually form 
after
> > clearing
> > > the relevant interfaces.  This must be because the hub 

RE: you bad boys and girls... [7:31777]

2002-01-13 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Chuck,

I wish! I'm configuring MPLS in the EDS lab today for a project that is due
tomorrow. 

Shawn K.

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to judge from the lack of traffic on the list, I gather you bad boys and
girls are watching football instead of studying.




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multiple radius server [7:31781]

2002-01-13 Thread Mohammed Saro

I want to send accounting packets to multiple radius servers simultaneously
when i add them in sequence it sends to them in a failover order


Mohamed Saro




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Re: Free Router Lab Untill Noon PST. [7:31714]

2002-01-13 Thread Richard Towle

Thanks!

Your setup is very similar to the lab I've setup at home.
It appears that your problematic 2502 has no IOS loaded.
I did a "Show Flash" and didn't see anything there.

---Richard

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> Guys,
>
> I planned to turn it off at 12pm today but what the heck   I'll leave
it
> on for for a few more days.  First come first serve though. :)
>
> Thanks for all the inputs you guys gave me.  It's very valuable.  And yes,
> the ISDN isn't there yet but definitely coming soon..  Now, I am wondering
> how important is the 3920 switch.  Let me know what you guys think of it.
>
> And another question I got is what kind of ISDN switch-type do they test
on
> CCIE lab?  Thanks...
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Ed




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OT: Re: you bad boys and girls... [7:31777]

2002-01-13 Thread Brad Ellis

Chuck,

I think you have officially lost it.

BTW:  What's your new email address?  I was trying to email you the other
day and it was getting returned.  (did you filter me?  i didnt think I was
harassing you that bad)  :)

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
Network Learning Inc
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> to judge from the lack of traffic on the list, I gather you bad boys and
> girls are watching football instead of studying.




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OT: you bad boys and girls... [7:31777]

2002-01-13 Thread Chuck Larrieu

to judge from the lack of traffic on the list, I gather you bad boys and
girls are watching football instead of studying.




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RE: OSPF and The Disappearing Neighbor Statement [7:31656]

2002-01-13 Thread Jim Brown

I thought you only need the neighbor statement on one side of the
connection? 

Once a router accepts the hello, adjacencies are formed with information
from the hello via unicast communication from that point forward.

Sort of like if I shout over a hill, "Hey Routerman are you there, this is
Jim." Then you would respond back to me by name.

-Original Message-
From: Router Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 10:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OSPF and The Disappearing Neighbor Statement [7:31656]


I was able to reproduce your exact scenario.  I had a hub with two spokes
and the neighbor statements only appeared on the hub. This is very
interesting and I'm not sure what the reason behind it is.  I am glad that
this was brought up, because I would love to get to the bottom of this
situation.  I'll keep you posted ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The network statement definitely was there, but the neighbor 
> statements would only appear on the hub router.  Interestingly, I just 
> saw a sample configuration similar to this on CCO and they only had 
> the neighbor statement on one router, not both.  I think as long as 
> one router has a neighbor statement configured, the adjacency will 
> form assuming all other things being equal (network type, etc.)
>
> The adjacencies formed but I had to cycle the interfaces to get things
> started.   Even if the neighbor statement is only required on one side,
> I still don't understand why the router wouldn't let me add it.  The 
> adjacencies would eventually form, however, and routing occurred 
> exactly as I expected it.
>
> I did notice a minor issue with the neighbor statements on the hub.  I 
> had three of them, and one of them inserted 'priority 1' at the end, 
> yet the other two remained as I entered them.
>
> >>> "Router Man"  1/11/02 3:08:03 PM >>>
> The only time that the "neighbor" statement will not show up in the 
> running-config, is if you do not have a "network" statement under the 
> "router ospf" process.  I am doubting that the neighbors formed an 
> adjacency without the neigbor or network statements showing up under 
> the ospf config.
> If the adjacency was actually formed, then it must be a bug.
>
> Another thing that I have noticed is than when trying to use the 
> neighbor statement to set the priority, "neighbor 1.1.1.1 priority 
> 255" the priority
> will change to something other than what I set it too.  It took me a
> while
> to figure this one out.   The problem is that I have to have matching
> "ip
> ospf priority 255" statements under the interfaces running ospf .
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > It was hot, too hot.  Our detective had been working feverishly to 
> > configure OSPF over NBMA without the use of ip ospf network
> statements.
> > He knew that to do this he must explicitly add neighbor statements
> or
> > adjacencies would not form.
> >
> > He logs into the hub router and types in his three neighbor
> statements.
> >  All seems well.  It's still too hot, but it's a dry heat.
> >
> > He now logs into one of the spoke routers and types in his neighbor 
> > statement.  He pauses momentarily and then checks the OSPF
> adjacencies.
> > Something seems to be wrong, he thinks to himself.  This ought to be 
> > working, but it isn't.  Why not?  He looks through the running 
> > config
> to
> > look for any errors and notices the the neighbor statement that he
> just
> > entered is missing!
> >
> > He slowly and deliberately types it in again making sure there are
> no
> > mistakes but yet it still does not show up in the running
> configuration.
> >  Is this an IOS issue?  Operator error?  Some rift in the space-time 
> > continuum?
> >
> > He jumps to another spoke router running a different IOS and tries
> the
> > same thing with the same result.  He is frantic now, beads of sweat 
> > pouring down his face.  What if this were the real CCIE lab exam?
> Could
> > this be a fatal stumbling block?
> >
> > He finally notices that adjacencies do eventually form after
> clearing
> > the relevant interfaces.  This must be because the hub router
> accepted
> > the neighbor statements.  But what if it hadn't, he ponders.  He
> thinks
> > forward into the future when--a day after taking the lab exam--he 
> > receives the dreaded email that says, "We're sorry, it is apparent
> that
> > you have no clue."
> >
> > Back to the real world
> >
> > What was the cause of the missing neighbor statements?  Have any of
> you
> > run into this before?  I've never bothered to explicitly use
> neighbor
> > statements as I'm in the habit of using the ip ospf network command
> to
> > make them unnecessary.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John




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Re: copyright config [7:31774]

2002-01-13 Thread Gerd Thuemmler

Hi,

In article , [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
says...
> Can you copyright a config?  Has anyone ever heard of it?

..oh no, i hope there is no way for that =8-|


Gerd Thuemmler
Berlin, Germany




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copyright config [7:31774]

2002-01-13 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Can you copyright a config?  Has anyone ever heard of it?

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Re: OSPF and The Disappearing Neighbor Statement [7:31656]

2002-01-13 Thread Router Man

I was able to reproduce your exact scenario.  I had a hub with two spokes
and the neighbor statements only appeared on the hub. This is very
interesting and I'm not sure what the reason behind it is.  I am glad that
this was brought up, because I would love to get to the bottom of this
situation.  I'll keep you posted
""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The network statement definitely was there, but the neighbor statements
> would only appear on the hub router.  Interestingly, I just saw a sample
> configuration similar to this on CCO and they only had the neighbor
> statement on one router, not both.  I think as long as one router has a
> neighbor statement configured, the adjacency will form assuming all
> other things being equal (network type, etc.)
>
> The adjacencies formed but I had to cycle the interfaces to get things
> started.   Even if the neighbor statement is only required on one side,
> I still don't understand why the router wouldn't let me add it.  The
> adjacencies would eventually form, however, and routing occurred exactly
> as I expected it.
>
> I did notice a minor issue with the neighbor statements on the hub.  I
> had three of them, and one of them inserted 'priority 1' at the end, yet
> the other two remained as I entered them.
>
> >>> "Router Man"  1/11/02 3:08:03 PM >>>
> The only time that the "neighbor" statement will not show up in the
> running-config, is if you do not have a "network" statement under the
> "router ospf" process.  I am doubting that the neighbors formed an
> adjacency
> without the neigbor or network statements showing up under the ospf
> config.
> If the adjacency was actually formed, then it must be a bug.
>
> Another thing that I have noticed is than when trying to use the
> neighbor
> statement to set the priority, "neighbor 1.1.1.1 priority 255" the
> priority
> will change to something other than what I set it too.  It took me a
> while
> to figure this one out.   The problem is that I have to have matching
> "ip
> ospf priority 255" statements under the interfaces running ospf .
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> > It was hot, too hot.  Our detective had been working feverishly to
> > configure OSPF over NBMA without the use of ip ospf network
> statements.
> > He knew that to do this he must explicitly add neighbor statements
> or
> > adjacencies would not form.
> >
> > He logs into the hub router and types in his three neighbor
> statements.
> >  All seems well.  It's still too hot, but it's a dry heat.
> >
> > He now logs into one of the spoke routers and types in his neighbor
> > statement.  He pauses momentarily and then checks the OSPF
> adjacencies.
> > Something seems to be wrong, he thinks to himself.  This ought to be
> > working, but it isn't.  Why not?  He looks through the running config
> to
> > look for any errors and notices the the neighbor statement that he
> just
> > entered is missing!
> >
> > He slowly and deliberately types it in again making sure there are
> no
> > mistakes but yet it still does not show up in the running
> configuration.
> >  Is this an IOS issue?  Operator error?  Some rift in the space-time
> > continuum?
> >
> > He jumps to another spoke router running a different IOS and tries
> the
> > same thing with the same result.  He is frantic now, beads of sweat
> > pouring down his face.  What if this were the real CCIE lab exam?
> Could
> > this be a fatal stumbling block?
> >
> > He finally notices that adjacencies do eventually form after
> clearing
> > the relevant interfaces.  This must be because the hub router
> accepted
> > the neighbor statements.  But what if it hadn't, he ponders.  He
> thinks
> > forward into the future when--a day after taking the lab exam--he
> > receives the dreaded email that says, "We're sorry, it is apparent
> that
> > you have no clue."
> >
> > Back to the real world
> >
> > What was the cause of the missing neighbor statements?  Have any of
> you
> > run into this before?  I've never bothered to explicitly use
> neighbor
> > statements as I'm in the habit of using the ip ospf network command
> to
> > make them unnecessary.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John




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RE: Compresses Cisco IOS to fit onto a smaller fla [7:31729]

2002-01-13 Thread Circusnuts

I was told the case would not close, due to the way Cisco has positioned
the outlet forward of the motherboard.

.02
Phil

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Paul Borghese
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Hey as a side note.  Does anyone know what that PCMCIA slot inside the
25xx
routers are used for?  It looks as if you can add Flash via a PCMCIA
card.
It is not worth it as Flash is so inexpensive, but it would be neat to
try.

Paul
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To: 
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Subject: Re: Compresses Cisco IOS to fit onto a smaller fla [7:31729]


> I would highly recommend AGAINST using it.  We used to use it and had
all
> sorts of strange problems with the newly created compressed IOS.  You
also
> have to have an extra amount of DRAM available for the created image
to be
> decompressed into RAM.
>
> Flash and DRAM are soo cheap these days, you'd be better off upgrading
the
> memory.  Also, MZMaker is only applicable with uncompressed
run-from-flash
> IOS (ie, 2500 series routers and the old 1600 series routers).  Again,
I'd
> highly recommend against it.
>
> thanks,
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> Network Learning Inc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> used Cisco gear:  www.optsys.net
> CCIE Labs, racks, and classes:
http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html
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> > Yes- the program is called MZMaker and can only be applied to IOS
that
> > is run from RAM only.
> >
> > All the best !!!
> > Phil
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
> > Richard
> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:57 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Compresses Cisco IOS to fit onto a smaller flash size.
> > [7:31710]
> >
> > I wonder if anyone has tried to compress a larger Cisco IOS to fit
onto
> > a
> > router with a smaller flash. If so, I'd appreciated for some
pointers.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > _
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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RE: Compresses Cisco IOS to fit onto a smaller fla [7:31729]

2002-01-13 Thread Hire, Ejay

It is an alternate method for performing code upgrades.  You used to be able
to order a single use card that would upgrade the code on a single router
and then self-destruct.  (Not Explode, just self-disable)

-ejay.

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Hey as a side note.  Does anyone know what that PCMCIA slot inside the 25xx
routers are used for?  It looks as if you can add Flash via a PCMCIA card.
It is not worth it as Flash is so inexpensive, but it would be neat to try.

Paul
- Original Message -
From: "Brad Ellis" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Compresses Cisco IOS to fit onto a smaller fla [7:31729]


> I would highly recommend AGAINST using it.  We used to use it and had all
> sorts of strange problems with the newly created compressed IOS.  You also
> have to have an extra amount of DRAM available for the created image to be
> decompressed into RAM.
>
> Flash and DRAM are soo cheap these days, you'd be better off upgrading the
> memory.  Also, MZMaker is only applicable with uncompressed run-from-flash
> IOS (ie, 2500 series routers and the old 1600 series routers).  Again, I'd
> highly recommend against it.
>
> thanks,
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> Network Learning Inc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> used Cisco gear:  www.optsys.net
> CCIE Labs, racks, and classes:  http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html
> ""Circusnuts""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Yes- the program is called MZMaker and can only be applied to IOS that
> > is run from RAM only.
> >
> > All the best !!!
> > Phil
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > Richard
> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:57 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Compresses Cisco IOS to fit onto a smaller flash size.
> > [7:31710]
> >
> > I wonder if anyone has tried to compress a larger Cisco IOS to fit onto
> > a
> > router with a smaller flash. If so, I'd appreciated for some pointers.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > _
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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Re: GBIC ??? [7:31770]

2002-01-13 Thread Chuck Larrieu

there will probably be a ton of posts, but why not? I'm waiting for a
download to complete.

The 65xx series switches come of the shelf with a 32 gig backplane. If you
anticipate needing a bigger backplane, you must purchase a switch fabric
module ( SFM ) which then increases your backplane to 128 gig.

Ah, but here's the deal. In order take advantage of this increased
backplane, your line cards must be "fabric enabled". Otherwise they will be
able to use only the default 32 gig crossbar.

Cisco is the only major vendor that does it this way that I can figure.
Extreme and Foundry certainly don't.

so get our your wallet and get ready to shell out if you require a bigger
backplane on the 65xx product.


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> Hi Group ,
> From the cisco cd ,
>
> WS-X6816-GBIC
>16-port fabric-enabled Gigabit Ethernet switching
> module. The module has integrated distributed
>forwarding and has dual serial connections to the
> switch fabric module. The module requires GBICs. GBICs
>are available in three models (SX, LX/LH, and ZX)
and
> have an SC-type connector for use with either MMF
>and SMF.
>
> What is mean by the " fabric-enable Gigabit Ethernet switching module " ??
> Tks
>
> WS-X6516-GBIC
>16-port Gigabit Ethernet switching module. The
module
> requires GBICs. GBICs are available in three models
>(SX, LX/LH, and ZX) and have an SC-type connector
for
> use with either MMF and SMF.
>
>
> What is the difference between " WS-X6816-GBIC ( fabric-enable ) and
> WS-X6516-GBIC ?




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GBIC ??? [7:31770]

2002-01-13 Thread kenairs

Hi Group ,
>From the cisco cd ,

WS-X6816-GBIC
   16-port fabric-enabled Gigabit Ethernet switching
module. The module has integrated distributed
   forwarding and has dual serial connections to the
switch fabric module. The module requires GBICs. GBICs
   are available in three models (SX, LX/LH, and ZX) and
have an SC-type connector for use with either MMF
   and SMF.

What is mean by the " fabric-enable Gigabit Ethernet switching module " ??
Tks

WS-X6516-GBIC
   16-port Gigabit Ethernet switching module. The module
requires GBICs. GBICs are available in three models
   (SX, LX/LH, and ZX) and have an SC-type connector for
use with either MMF and SMF.


What is the difference between " WS-X6816-GBIC ( fabric-enable ) and
WS-X6516-GBIC ?




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RE: PPTP - Conduit - Protocol 47 [7:31748]

2002-01-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I found out that version 4.1(7) supports GRE

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/pix_v41/pixrn417.h
tm#xtocid1224219

Unfortunately, the image is no longer on CC0 (too old).

Pierre-Alex

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Pierre-Alex,

You might have an issue with that version of PIX OS. On a PIX OS of 4.2 or
later, you can do:

conduit permit gre host  any
conduit permit tcp host  eq 1723 any

Not sure about 4.0.7... are you not able to update this to at least 4.4 or
something better?

Paul

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> How do you configure a conduit to let this go through:
>
> Source 0.0.0.0 to Protocol Other Protocol Number 47
>
> I need to this in order to do PPTP through the firewall to a Windows 2000
> machine.I am running version 4.0.7 on the PIX and the conduit only have
> option for tcp or udp. See below from the Cisco documentation:
>
> conduit global_ip port[-port] udp|tcp ip_address [netmask]
>
> Thank you
>
> Pierre-Alex




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CCIE 350-001 passed [7:31767]

2002-01-13 Thread Gerd Thümmler

Hi,

i have passed the test :-), and now i working for my lab-test on 04/19/2002
in
bruessels.

IMO is the test not so hard. I have  learn the CISCO courses SNAM, BCRAN,
BSCN,
CIT, CVOICE and CATM. The book "CCIE 350-001: Routing and Switching Prep
Kit"
from Bear Wolf was helpful for the latest Test preparation. My other books:

Doyle: TCP/IP Routing vol. I and II
Clark/Hamilton: Cisco Lan Switching

For the lab prep i will by the "Review of CCIE Practical Studies Volume 1"
from
Carl Solie


Gerd Thuemmler
Berlin, Germany

Sorry for my bad english, but is so long that learn it in scool ;-)




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Summarization [7:31766]

2002-01-13 Thread David j

Hello folks,
I'm working in a EIGRP enviroment, and I have some questions for you:

Has anyone tried to do a manual route sumarization per interface with more
or less 200 interfaces in a 7500?
I've tried but I'm having a few problems, the summary routes aren't
advertised sufficiently fast to the routers in branch offices.
The summary routes are sometimes marked as "possibly down" in the routers of
branch offices, sometimes are up and sometimes are down.

Do you know any relationship between memory or cpu (or whatever) of the 7500
and number of interfaces in which you can perform manual summarization?

David


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RE: PPTP - Conduit - Protocol 47 [7:31748]

2002-01-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you!

Pierre-Alex

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Pierre-Alex,

You might have an issue with that version of PIX OS. On a PIX OS of 4.2 or
later, you can do:

conduit permit gre host  any
conduit permit tcp host  eq 1723 any

Not sure about 4.0.7... are you not able to update this to at least 4.4 or
something better?

Paul

""Pierre-Alex J. Guanel""  wrote in message
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> How do you configure a conduit to let this go through:
>
> Source 0.0.0.0 to Protocol Other Protocol Number 47
>
> I need to this in order to do PPTP through the firewall to a Windows 2000
> machine.I am running version 4.0.7 on the PIX and the conduit only have
> option for tcp or udp. See below from the Cisco documentation:
>
> conduit global_ip port[-port] udp|tcp ip_address [netmask]
>
> Thank you
>
> Pierre-Alex




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