Re: Sniffers [7:49712]

2002-07-25 Thread dre

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> What is everyone using for monitoring their network?

SnifferPro (from NAI) is popular, but limited in function IMO due to it's
lack of stability.
The Distributed SnifferPro is overpriced, but may fit what you need.
However, it's more
built for small, legacy Enterprise networks.  It lacks scalability and
stability for most of today's
networks.  I believe NAI is charging too much for their buggy products, but
YMMV.  Most
people understand that NAI products run primarily on Microsoft Windows
products, and
therefore, are not as stable and high-performance as Unix alternatives.

I would suggest at least trying to use Ethereal along with tcpdump or
libpcap (Ethereal
is very cool since it opens gzipped pcap-formatted files).  A newish x86
machine running
FreeBSD with libpcap and tcpdump installed can work really well.  It's best
combined with
dual Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100 NIC's in a full-duplex fast ethernet
environment (Cisco
or Foundry switches would be nice).  Connect fxp0 to your management network
and fxp1
to a mirrored port (e.g. using Cisco SPAN).  Then run `tcpdump -n -X -s
65535 -i fxp1 -l | tee '
and scp the file to your computer.  You can then run Ethereal or SnifferPro
on the capture file.

Niksun also makes a product called NetVCR which is very interesting, however
I would like other
suggestions of *BSD machines running web-interfaces to high-performance
sniffers or anything
similar.  You might also be able to load-balance sniffers using products
from companies like
Radware or TopLayer.  They have products that do "IDS Load-Balancing", I
haven't seen this
done with Cisco products lately, but you might be able to accomplish the
same thing with similar
products.  There is also a very cool product made by Unispeed, the
Netlogger, but it is overpriced
more than any product I've ever seen in the whole networking world.

There was also an interesting thread on building high-performance sniffers
recently on nanog-l.

-dre




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Re: Check this new command out [7:49717]

2002-07-25 Thread Peter van Oene

wonder where they got that idea? :)


At 10:00 PM 7/25/2002 +, you wrote:
>Thought this was pretty cool!!
>
>c7304(config)#do sh ver
>Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
>IOS (tm) 7300 Software (C7300-JS-M), Version 12.1(1.23.020716.), CISCO
>DEVELOPME
>NT TEST VERSION
>Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc.
>Compiled Tue 16-Jul-02 03:26 by
>Image text-base: 0x40008970, data-base: 0x41B32000...
>
>   Dave
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Re: Sniffers [7:49712]

2002-07-25 Thread Peter van Oene

For packet capture I use ethereal (www.ethereal.com) They keep about the 
most updated decodes on the market.

At 09:43 PM 7/25/2002 +, Johnson, Richard (NY Int) wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>What is everyone using for monitoring their network?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rich




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Eigrp Summarizing [7:49730]

2002-07-25 Thread JohnZ

I have a 3640 as hub and 20 1604s as spokes. Eigrp is the routing protocol
in use. Internet access is through the 3640. How can summrize in Eigrp so
all the spokes have a single route to the Hub router.
Thanks,




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Re: Static NAT Problem [7:49714]

2002-07-25 Thread Don Claybrook

Thanks, Johnny, but I know the protocol around here and I note with irony
that in your misguided attempt to keep me from being rude, you were more
than a little rude yourself.  I checked the website (as opposed to the email
feed) and it hadn't shown up after about 45 minutes or so, and so I assumed
that the first one just didn't make it for whatever reason.  I apologize for
making the mistake, detracting from the quality of your day, and forcing you
to publicly admonish me when I'm sure you had better things to do.

BTW, the "extendable" keyword adds itself to the configuration.  How would
you suggest I remove this, Mr. Routen?


Don Claybrook
CCNP, CCDP, CSS1


- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Static NAT Problem [7:49714]


> BTW, only post once... we'll see you and we'll get to it.  If you post the
> same thing multiple times you'll be ignored for being rude.
>
>
> JR
> --
> Johnny Routin
>
>
>
>
> ""Don Claybrook""  wrote in message
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> > I have a customer using a single address for port forwarding.  The
> > translation
> > for 192.168.1.2 to
> > 12.13.14.15 using port 5631 works fine.  When I issue the command show
ip
> nat
> > translations, I get
> > the output as shown on the last line.  The inside global and inside
local
> are
> > both listed on
> > port 5631.
> >
> > However, the translation for 192.168.1.3 to 12.13.14.15, both using port
> > 5993,
> > does not work.
> > This shows up on the inside global as 12.13.14.15:1062 and on the inside
> > local
> > as 192.168.1.3:5993.
> >
> > Both translations are configured the same.  Can anyone tell me what it
is
> I'm
> > doing wrong?
> >
> > The nat configuration, along with the show ip nat translation, is listed
> > below.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> >
> > ip nat translation timeout 300
> > ip nat inside source list 1 interface Serial0.1 overload
> > ip nat inside source list 18 interface Serial0.1 overload
> > ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.3 5993 12.13.14.15 5993
> extendable
> > ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 22 12.13.14.15 22 extendable
> > ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 5631 12.13.14.15 5631
> extendable
> > ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 5632 12.13.14.15 5632
> extendable
> > ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 65301 12.13.14.15 65301
> > extendable
> > ip nat inside source static udp 192.168.1.2 5632 12.13.14.15 5632
> extendable
> >
> >
> >
> > Router#sh ip nat trans
> > Pro Inside global  Inside local   Outside local  Outside
> global
> >
> > tcp 12.13.14.15:5631  192.168.1.2:5631   ------
> > tcp 12.13.14.15:5632  192.168.1.2:5632   ------
> > udp 12.13.14.15:5632  192.168.1.2:5632   ------
> > tcp 12.13.14.15:1062  192.168.1.3:5993   21.22.23.24:2282
> 21.22.23.24:2282
> > tcp 12.13.14.15:65301 192.168.1.2:65301  ------
> > tcp 12.13.14.15:5993  192.168.1.3:5993   ------
> > tcp 12.13.14.15:22192.168.1.2:22 ------
> > tcp 12.13.14.15:5631  192.168.1.2:5631   21.22.23.24:2281
> 21.22.23.24:2281




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IOS Upgrade ROMMON [7:49728]

2002-07-25 Thread John Brandis

Hi All

Thanks for the reply on my DCE/DTE question. Resolved now. Have a new IOS
image that I wish to apply to my 2503. However I dont have a spare AUI for
it, thus no ethernet activity at the moment. I know you can upload new IOS
via ROMMON, because I did it once before. Last time I did it, because my
TFTP failed and I went straight to ROMMON. How does one, delete the current
IOS and be able to get back into ROMMON ? Is it as simple as a ctrl-break
upon boot ? 

Thanks all

John


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RE: Network size [7:49704]

2002-07-25 Thread Dan Penn

The official Cisco answer is 200 for AppleTalk, 300 for IPX, and 500 for
IP.

Dan

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Subject: Re: Network size [7:49704]

This has been bantered around before and the answer is..  It
depends.  When I worked at Cray Research we kept a segment at around 30
users.  They were supercomputer software developers and compilers, heavy
users.  If you have 1000 people doing simple data entry you would
probably be fine.

 Dave

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> I can't for the life of me remember what the recommended maximum
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> clients on one segment is, I think it was either 300 or 500.
> 
> Can anyone confirm ?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham.
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Re: Static NAT Problem [7:49714]

2002-07-25 Thread Johnny Routin

BTW, only post once... we'll see you and we'll get to it.  If you post the
same thing multiple times you'll be ignored for being rude.


JR
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""Don Claybrook""  wrote in message
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> I have a customer using a single address for port forwarding.  The
> translation
> for 192.168.1.2 to
> 12.13.14.15 using port 5631 works fine.  When I issue the command show ip
nat
> translations, I get
> the output as shown on the last line.  The inside global and inside local
are
> both listed on
> port 5631.
>
> However, the translation for 192.168.1.3 to 12.13.14.15, both using port
> 5993,
> does not work.
> This shows up on the inside global as 12.13.14.15:1062 and on the inside
> local
> as 192.168.1.3:5993.
>
> Both translations are configured the same.  Can anyone tell me what it is
I'm
> doing wrong?
>
> The nat configuration, along with the show ip nat translation, is listed
> below.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> ip nat translation timeout 300
> ip nat inside source list 1 interface Serial0.1 overload
> ip nat inside source list 18 interface Serial0.1 overload
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.3 5993 12.13.14.15 5993
extendable
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 22 12.13.14.15 22 extendable
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 5631 12.13.14.15 5631
extendable
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 5632 12.13.14.15 5632
extendable
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 65301 12.13.14.15 65301
> extendable
> ip nat inside source static udp 192.168.1.2 5632 12.13.14.15 5632
extendable
>
>
>
> Router#sh ip nat trans
> Pro Inside global  Inside local   Outside local  Outside
global
>
> tcp 12.13.14.15:5631  192.168.1.2:5631   ------
> tcp 12.13.14.15:5632  192.168.1.2:5632   ------
> udp 12.13.14.15:5632  192.168.1.2:5632   ------
> tcp 12.13.14.15:1062  192.168.1.3:5993   21.22.23.24:2282
21.22.23.24:2282
> tcp 12.13.14.15:65301 192.168.1.2:65301  ------
> tcp 12.13.14.15:5993  192.168.1.3:5993   ------
> tcp 12.13.14.15:22192.168.1.2:22 ------
> tcp 12.13.14.15:5631  192.168.1.2:5631   21.22.23.24:2281
21.22.23.24:2281




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Re: Static NAT Problem [7:49714]

2002-07-25 Thread Johnny Routin

I would take off the extendable keyword.


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""Don Claybrook""  wrote in message
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> I have a customer using a single address for port forwarding.  The
> translation
> for 192.168.1.2 to
> 12.13.14.15 using port 5631 works fine.  When I issue the command show ip
nat
> translations, I get
> the output as shown on the last line.  The inside global and inside local
are
> both listed on
> port 5631.
>
> However, the translation for 192.168.1.3 to 12.13.14.15, both using port
> 5993,
> does not work.
> This shows up on the inside global as 12.13.14.15:1062 and on the inside
> local
> as 192.168.1.3:5993.
>
> Both translations are configured the same.  Can anyone tell me what it is
I'm
> doing wrong?
>
> The nat configuration, along with the show ip nat translation, is listed
> below.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> ip nat translation timeout 300
> ip nat inside source list 1 interface Serial0.1 overload
> ip nat inside source list 18 interface Serial0.1 overload
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.3 5993 12.13.14.15 5993
extendable
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 22 12.13.14.15 22 extendable
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 5631 12.13.14.15 5631
extendable
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 5632 12.13.14.15 5632
extendable
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 65301 12.13.14.15 65301
> extendable
> ip nat inside source static udp 192.168.1.2 5632 12.13.14.15 5632
extendable
>
>
>
> Router#sh ip nat trans
> Pro Inside global  Inside local   Outside local  Outside
global
>
> tcp 12.13.14.15:5631  192.168.1.2:5631   ------
> tcp 12.13.14.15:5632  192.168.1.2:5632   ------
> udp 12.13.14.15:5632  192.168.1.2:5632   ------
> tcp 12.13.14.15:1062  192.168.1.3:5993   21.22.23.24:2282
21.22.23.24:2282
> tcp 12.13.14.15:65301 192.168.1.2:65301  ------
> tcp 12.13.14.15:5993  192.168.1.3:5993   ------
> tcp 12.13.14.15:22192.168.1.2:22 ------
> tcp 12.13.14.15:5631  192.168.1.2:5631   21.22.23.24:2281
21.22.23.24:2281




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RE: DCE or DTE [7:49625]

2002-07-25 Thread Walker, James - Is

The one you can add the clocking statement is the DCE end.

You can use 'show controllers serial 0' to verify.

JW



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> The command is show controllers..or show controllers serial 0..or
> show controllers serial 1
> It will tell you a the beging if your end is a DTE or a DCE


FYI:

Router_1#show controllers s 1
HD unit 1, idb = 0x1B3274, driver structure at 0x1B95E8
buffer size 1524  HD unit 1, V.35 DCE cable, clockrate 100

DCE end attached.


>
> JB
>
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> Subject: DCE or DTE [7:49625]
>
>
> Been away from routers for a while
>
> whats the command to figure out which serial in in a back to abck config
is
> DCE/DTE ?
>
> Reason is I have 2 back to back 2503's. My serial cable is going to S0 in
> each router. IN the configs, I have
>
> Bris Router#
> int s0
> ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
> encapsulation ppp
> bandwidth 64
> clock rate 64000
> no shut
>
> Melb Router#
> int s0
> ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
> encapsulation ppp
> bandwidth 64
> no shut
>
> What am I missing as I have the int face is up, line proto down. I really
> should be able to figure this one out, however its late afternoon in
> Australia and I want to sleep after a big night of watching Buffy repeats.
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Re: Sniffers [7:49712]

2002-07-25 Thread Johnny Routin

What do you want to monitor?


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> What is everyone using for monitoring their network?
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> Thanks,
>
> Rich




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Re: How to allow outside user to browse the inside web [7:49720]

2002-07-25 Thread Gaz

Looks fine.
Clear xlate on the pix.
Failing that - reboot the pix if you have that luxury.
Troubleshoot your connectivity.
Can you browse to the web server internally?
Can you browse to internet from the web server?
Allow icmp through the pix and check connectivity.

Put some logging on while you try to connect:

logging on
logging console 4 (or 5)

Let us know results.

Gaz


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> Hi all,
> I have PIX firewall with 6.0(1) and I am running my mail server behind it
> and it works find till now...
> these days I need to run a web server "apatche" behind it..
> I tried to configure it to allow the oursiders to access the inside web
bage
> by usning the following commands:
> static (inside,outside) xx.xx.60.21 10.0.0.20 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0
> conduit permit tcp host xx.xx.60.21 eq www any
>
> I failed to run this web sites installed on the apatche server...
> Is there extra commands I have to add to my PIX to allaow outsider to
access
> that web server???
> Please help me to fix this issue ASAP
>
> Thanx in advance
>
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RE: Check this new command out [7:49717]

2002-07-25 Thread Erich Kuehn

All I can say is KEWL.. I love that. I hate jumping in and out of config
mode to look at my Runnning Config.

Thanks for the insight.

Erich

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Thought this was pretty cool!!

c7304(config)#do sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 7300 Software (C7300-JS-M), Version 12.1(1.23.020716.), CISCO
DEVELOPME NT TEST VERSION Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 16-Jul-02 03:26 by Image text-base: 0x40008970, data-base:
0x41B32000...

  Dave

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Check this new command out [7:49717]

2002-07-25 Thread MADMAN

Thought this was pretty cool!!

c7304(config)#do sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 7300 Software (C7300-JS-M), Version 12.1(1.23.020716.), CISCO
DEVELOPME
NT TEST VERSION
Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 16-Jul-02 03:26 by
Image text-base: 0x40008970, data-base: 0x41B32000...

  Dave

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RE: TCP sequence numbers question [7:49535]

2002-07-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Evans, TJ wrote:
> 
> Is it also relevant/correct that in a case like this, just
> under normal TCP
> operation, HostB would assumes HostA did not receive the ACK,
> which resulted
> in HostA restransmitting the original packet ... and HostB
> re-ACK'ing it ...
> etc. etc.  ?
> 

I don't think Host B is that smart actually. It doesn't know or care if its
ACK got there. It doesn't try to figure out why it's getting a duplicate.
Instead, it just does its normal job of recognizing and dropping the
duplicate.

On the other hand, a troublehsooter (as in a human), should recognize the
situation you describe. This comes up rather often. You'll be looking at a
protocol analyzer, for example, and you'll see that data got ACKed but that
the sending host is sending it again anway. What you have to realize is that
just because you see the ACK on the analzyer doesn't mean that the host saw
it. The ACK got dropped somwehere en route to the host or possibly at the
host. Then you start your "troubleshooting outward" approach, as Cisco calls
it, to determine why ACKs are getting dropped.

Priscilla


> 
> Thanks!
> TJ
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: TCP sequence numbers question [7:49535]
> 
> I already explained that, as does Stevens. (You have his book,
> I think. It's
> great.) The RFCs may not explain it. The creators or TCP don't
> approve of
> keeaplives.
> 
> Anyway, the sender purposely keeps the sequence number the same
> when
> implementing the keepalive process. That causes the recipient
> to trash the
> garbage byte instead of giving it to the application. Remember
> there's an
> application running above all this (identified by the port
> number). The
> transport layer does not pass the garbage byte to the
> application because it
> appears to be a byte it already received. That's a basic TCP
> task.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> sam sneed wrote:
> > 
> > > > So using the example below (host A 192.168.133.21, B
> > > > 10.10.10.12), A sends 1
> > > > byte of data, last successful sent byte is 2653258021,
> > >
> > > No, the last successful byte is 2653258020. That's Host A's
> > sequence
> > number.
> > > Host A sends only one byte, the byte numbered 2653258020.
> > > The analyer you're using (is it TCPdump?) doesn't do a good
> > job of making
> > > this clear. I think it's trying to help you see what the
> > expected ACK
> > should
> > > be. Don't read the second number as the sequence number of
> > the last byte
> > > sent. You'll be off by one if you do that.
> > 
> > 
> > > A common mistake people make (and your analyzer may be
> > making) is to add
> > the
> > > length of the data to the sequence number to get the
> sequence
> > number of
> > the
> > > final byte of data in the segment. That's doesn't work.
> > You're mixing
> > apples
> > > and oranges. Actually, you're mixing cardinal numbers (how
> > many, length)
> > > with ordinnal numbers (order, rank, sequence). You'll be off
> > by one. I
> > > explain this in detail in my new book, Troubleshooting
> Campus
> > Networks, in
> > > the TCP chapter. ;-)
> > >
> > > > shouldn't Host B ack
> > > > (2653258021)+1 ?
> > >
> > > No, Host B's ACK should be 2653258021. Host B is saying I
> got
> > 2653258020
> > and
> > > I'm expecting 2653258021 next. Once again, I think your
> > analyzer's method
> > of
> > > display is confusing.
> > >
> > 
> > Yes, the analyzer is tcpdump and now I understand the error in
> > my
> > intrepretation. There is still one thing bothering me.
> > Host A is a sending a keepalive with 1 garbage as in my
> > previous post
> > 2653258020, B acks 2653258021 the next SN its expects to see.
> > But in my
> > example host A sends 2653258020 with 1 byte of garbage again.
> > Wouldn't this
> > look a duplicate or at least an out of sequence frame since
> > host B is
> > expecting 2653258021 and has already ack'd 2653258020? There
> > are no other ID
> > fields in the TCP header so how would it not ignore it as a
> > duplicate frame
> > when its [src IP dest IP] [src port dest port] and sequence
> #'s
> > are
> > identical?
> > I imported the raw packets into Ethereal so I could see all
> > fields, even the
> > 1 byte of garbage data is the same (00 in hex) and the header
> > checksum are
> > equal.
> > I hate to beat this to death,  but this stuff is a science and
> > based on
> > RFC's, so it kills me not to be able to interpret this exactly
> > and
> > correctly. There should be no mysteries behind this stuff.
> After
> > troubleshooting my network problem for awhile, I've become
> more
> > interested
> > in understanding the exact workings of TCP than solving the
> > original
> > problem.
> > 
> > Thanks alot for your insight.
>
*
> The information in this email is confidential and may be
> legally privileged.
> It is intended s

Re: New CCIE Written is here. He afraid, be very afraid... [7:49715]

2002-07-25 Thread Gaz

I think a CCIE candidate should have some knowledge of the older stuff. The
knowledge needed isn't too deep at all. It's always good to have at least a
little knowledge of the more obscure subjects.
We;re doing a large TR migration at the moment, and it's not the only one
we've seen recently.

Hopefully the exam is a little harder. I think it was only intended in the
past to weed out the absolute no hopers before they block up lab slots, not
to be added to the signature blocks of blaggers as a qualification in its
self.

Although even if it's no harder, as long as people realise that it's not a
qualification, just a basic test to prove you might be worthy of starting
the long path to CCIE.

My two penneth.


Gaz


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> This is a good thing.  Although, why add things like MPLS, wireless, SS7
> when you still have token ring and x.25?  Seems kinda stupid.
>
> Scott
> CCIE #9340
>
> ""Dennis Laganiere""  wrote in message
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> > "The CCIE Program is proud to announce the upcoming release of the
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> > CCIE Routing and Switching Written Exam (350-001). The new version of
the
> > exam will go live, and replace the current exam, on August 7th, 2002.
> Note:
> > The revised exam will consist of 150 questions and be 180 minutes in
> > duration. To prepare for this exam, candidates may wish to review the
exam
> > blueprint and study suggestions."
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#5
> >
> > If this is anything like the beta, things just got quite a bit harder...
> > --- Dennis




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Static NAT Problem [7:49714]

2002-07-25 Thread Don Claybrook

I have a customer using a single address for port forwarding.  The
translation
for 192.168.1.2 to
12.13.14.15 using port 5631 works fine.  When I issue the command show ip nat
translations, I get
the output as shown on the last line.  The inside global and inside local are
both listed on
port 5631.

However, the translation for 192.168.1.3 to 12.13.14.15, both using port
5993,
does not work.
This shows up on the inside global as 12.13.14.15:1062 and on the inside
local
as 192.168.1.3:5993.

Both translations are configured the same.  Can anyone tell me what it is I'm
doing wrong?

The nat configuration, along with the show ip nat translation, is listed
below.

Thanks for your help.



ip nat translation timeout 300
ip nat inside source list 1 interface Serial0.1 overload
ip nat inside source list 18 interface Serial0.1 overload
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.3 5993 12.13.14.15 5993 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 22 12.13.14.15 22 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 5631 12.13.14.15 5631 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 5632 12.13.14.15 5632 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 65301 12.13.14.15 65301
extendable
ip nat inside source static udp 192.168.1.2 5632 12.13.14.15 5632 extendable



Router#sh ip nat trans
Pro Inside global  Inside local   Outside local  Outside global

tcp 12.13.14.15:5631  192.168.1.2:5631   ------
tcp 12.13.14.15:5632  192.168.1.2:5632   ------
udp 12.13.14.15:5632  192.168.1.2:5632   ------
tcp 12.13.14.15:1062  192.168.1.3:5993   21.22.23.24:2282  21.22.23.24:2282
tcp 12.13.14.15:65301 192.168.1.2:65301  ------
tcp 12.13.14.15:5993  192.168.1.3:5993   ------
tcp 12.13.14.15:22192.168.1.2:22 ------
tcp 12.13.14.15:5631  192.168.1.2:5631   21.22.23.24:2281  21.22.23.24:2281




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Re: Network size [7:49704]

2002-07-25 Thread Chuck

""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I can't for the life of me remember what the recommended
> > maximum number of clients on one segment is, I think it was
> > either 300 or 500.
>
> It depends. Cisco has some guidelines on this that are based mostly on a
> concern for broadcast traffic. Although broadcast traffic doesn't tend to
> eat a lot of bandwidth (they are often short packets), each broadcast
packet
> interrupts the CPU on all devices in the broadcast domain. So Cisco
> recomendations are based on the protocols in use and how much broadcast
> traffic they tend to use. (Cisco also icludes multicast traffic in the
> equation because when they made the guidelines, a lot NICs were stupid
about
> multicasts and passed them to the host CPU, even if they weren't relevant,
> and the driver had not registered to receive them.)
>
> IP is 500
> IPX is 300
> AppleTalk is 200
> NetBIOS is 200
> Mixed is 200


Every time this discussion comes up, I'm reminded of my interview at Major
Well Known Bank a couple of years back. They told me they had shared
segments of as many as 1200 stations. The engineering staff was EXPERT in
sniffer analysis and broadcast suppression. They could track down a NIC that
was sending out more than what they determined to be "acceptable"
keepalives, and replace it within minutes All stations used only one
app - an internal privately developed app for banking transactions. IP
based, but client server in nature. I didn't know then, but I presume now
that ARP traffic was at a minimum because of this situation.




>
> So memorize those numbers for the CCDA test ;-), but, of course also do
some
> real analysis of your actual network.
>
> I have seen real-world evidence of broadcast traffic causing older PCs to
> slow down. But if your netework has GHz processor PCs, it may not matter
one
> bit that they get disturbed by a lot by broadcasts!?
>
> Also, those numbers from Cisco are pretty dated. These days switches with
> full-duplex ports are so cheap, you can have most of your LAN "segments"
> with just two nodes on them! (The PC and the switch port)
>
> In addition to considering broadcast traffic, you should also consider how
> much load each device is going to generate and the devices' sending
> patterns, as someone else mentioned. On shared Ethernet, it gets pretty
ugly
> if a lot of stations are sending very frequently. A significant portion of
> the bandwidth gets wasted on frames that don't go anywhere. Instead they
> collide with other frames.
>
> Priscilla
>
>
>
> >
> > Can anyone confirm ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Graham.




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Sniffers [7:49712]

2002-07-25 Thread Johnson, Richard (NY Int)

Hi all,

What is everyone using for monitoring their network?

Thanks,

Rich




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RE: Network size [7:49704]

2002-07-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I can't for the life of me remember what the recommended
> maximum number of clients on one segment is, I think it was
> either 300 or 500.

It depends. Cisco has some guidelines on this that are based mostly on a
concern for broadcast traffic. Although broadcast traffic doesn't tend to
eat a lot of bandwidth (they are often short packets), each broadcast packet
interrupts the CPU on all devices in the broadcast domain. So Cisco
recomendations are based on the protocols in use and how much broadcast
traffic they tend to use. (Cisco also icludes multicast traffic in the
equation because when they made the guidelines, a lot NICs were stupid about
multicasts and passed them to the host CPU, even if they weren't relevant,
and the driver had not registered to receive them.)

IP is 500
IPX is 300
AppleTalk is 200
NetBIOS is 200
Mixed is 200

So memorize those numbers for the CCDA test ;-), but, of course also do some
real analysis of your actual network.

I have seen real-world evidence of broadcast traffic causing older PCs to
slow down. But if your netework has GHz processor PCs, it may not matter one
bit that they get disturbed by a lot by broadcasts!?

Also, those numbers from Cisco are pretty dated. These days switches with
full-duplex ports are so cheap, you can have most of your LAN "segments"
with just two nodes on them! (The PC and the switch port)

In addition to considering broadcast traffic, you should also consider how
much load each device is going to generate and the devices' sending
patterns, as someone else mentioned. On shared Ethernet, it gets pretty ugly
if a lot of stations are sending very frequently. A significant portion of
the bandwidth gets wasted on frames that don't go anywhere. Instead they
collide with other frames.

Priscilla



> 
> Can anyone confirm ?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham.
> 
> 




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RE: Network size [7:49704]

2002-07-25 Thread Robert Cluett

Than answer has nothing to do with users, but to do with how much they will
utilize the segment.  No more than 30% utilization is the standard threshold
on an ethernet segment.   Utilization on a WAN link should be no higher than
70%.

Rob Cluett, CCNA


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Re: Any beginners books about BGP. [7:49695]

2002-07-25 Thread Peter van Oene

Halabi's book provides a pretty basic overview.

Pete


At 06:36 PM 7/25/2002 +, sam sneed wrote:
>I am mostly a LAN administrator and my network isn't large enough for me to
>get any dynamic routing experience. I am interseted in learning BGP. I've
>got the Cisco Press and Sybex CCNP routing books but I didn't like the BGP
>coverage, it seemed inadequate. Could anyone recommend a BGP book that is
>thorough but would let a beginner understand it initially?
>Anyone think you need to learn OSPF or EIGRP before BGP?
>
>Thanks for the opinions in advance.




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Re: Network size [7:49704]

2002-07-25 Thread MADMAN

This has been bantered around before and the answer is..  It
depends.  When I worked at Cray Research we kept a segment at around 30
users.  They were supercomputer software developers and compilers, heavy
users.  If you have 1000 people doing simple data entry you would
probably be fine.

 Dave

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I can't for the life of me remember what the recommended maximum number of
> clients on one segment is, I think it was either 300 or 500.
> 
> Can anyone confirm ?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham.
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Re: PIX 501 and enabling DES [7:49705]

2002-07-25 Thread Brad Ellis

Yes, re-install the same version of the OS, and enter a new activiation key.
That's all ya got to do.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I received my PIX 501 this afternoon! Hoowever I can not access it via
PDM.
> I got the 56bit DES key from Cisco, but I can't figure out how to activate
> the thing. The documentation just goes through upgrading the FW IOS and at
> the end it will prompt you for the key. I don't want to upgrade the IOS,
> just install the key. Any ideas? Please note my versions (no command
> activate-key). Thanks
>
> show version:
> Cisco PIX Firewall Version 6.1(3)
> Cisco PIX Device Manager Version 1.1(2)
>
> Compiled on Fri 22-Feb-02 08:15 by morlee
>
> pixfirewall up 45 mins 40 secs
>
> Hardware:   PIX-501, 16 MB RAM, CPU Am5x86 133 MHz
> Flash E28F640J3 @ 0x300, 8MB
> BIOS Flash E28F640J3 @ 0xfffd8000, 128KB
>
> 0: ethernet0: address is 000a.411e.f696, irq 9
> 1: ethernet1: address is 000a.411e.f697, irq 10
>
> Licensed Features:
> Failover:   Disabled
> VPN-DES:Disabled
> VPN-3DES:   Disabled
> Maximum Interfaces: 2




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RE: New CCIE Written is here. Be afraid, be very [7:49615]

2002-07-25 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

I'm getting asked this question a lot from people at work: If someone
registers for the CCIE Written before August 7th but plans to take the exam
on August 8th, will they take the old exam or the new exam? The way Cisco
makes it sound, they'll replace the old exam with the new exam on August
7th. However, in the past they've had a "grandfather" period where both the
exams are active at the same time and they fade out the old exam eventually.
If anyone has found out the answer to this, please post. Otherwise, I will
contact Cisco to find out. Thanks!

Shawn K.

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What date are you taking your test?

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
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""Jason Viera""  wrote in message
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> I just registered today what exam version will I be taking? Thanks in 
> advance, Jason ""Dennis Laganiere""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "The CCIE Program is proud to announce the upcoming release of the
revised
> > CCIE Routing and Switching Written Exam (350-001). The new version 
> > of
the
> > exam will go live, and replace the current exam, on August 7th, 
> > 2002.
> Note:
> > The revised exam will consist of 150 questions and be 180 minutes in 
> > duration. To prepare for this exam, candidates may wish to review 
> > the
exam
> > blueprint and study suggestions." 
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html
> > #5
> >
> > If this is anything like the beta, things just got quite a bit 
> > harder...
> > --- Dennis




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Re: mpls-l2 vpn vs. vlan [7:49346]

2002-07-25 Thread Kent Yu

Peter,

> To me, its LANE all
> over again, ie lets take a scalable, robust, intelligent technology and
try
> and bridge with it.   As far as building MANs with Spanning Tree as your
> control protocol, I might suggest that it will give you a real headache
> from a scaling and provisioning standpoint.  You might want to find
someone
> who worked at Yipes to give you some ideas.

I agree that STP should not be beyond the campus, anything up from better be
ip based.
I think the original question was about how to separate vpns on lower end
devices,
either label or vlan tag, ie configuring l2vpn on many access level devices
vs. configuring vlans, I guess vlans are easy to configure and manage in
this case.
For our discussion, IMHO, LANE is too complicated for the subscribers and
l3vpn is not easy for the providers, l2vpn is, relatively speaking, simple
for both .

>
> I will say that I am fully behind replacing legacy frame/atm vpn networks
> with IP/MPLS networks in order to reduce the number of networks supported
> by a single provider.  There are definite efficiencies to be gained here.
>

I would like to know how people are using IP/MPLS network to integrate voice
and data?

Thanks
Kent

>
>
>
>
>
> At 08:12 PM 7/21/2002 +, bbfaye wrote:
> >we are handling a case of a MAN project now.
> >We plan to use mpls-l2 vpn to connect the business subscribers.That means
we
> >have to place some mpls-enabled machines on the access
nodes(expensive...).
> >Another choice is using vlan.And the users' vlan are trunked to the
> >aggressive
> >nodes.I think it's not so good to do this,but not so sure about the
> >disadvantage.
> >Does anyone have experience or suggestion about using vlan and l2-mpls
vpn
> in
> >the man?
> >thanks a lot.




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PIX 501 and enabling DES [7:49705]

2002-07-25 Thread NetEng

I received my PIX 501 this afternoon! Hoowever I can not access it via PDM.
I got the 56bit DES key from Cisco, but I can't figure out how to activate
the thing. The documentation just goes through upgrading the FW IOS and at
the end it will prompt you for the key. I don't want to upgrade the IOS,
just install the key. Any ideas? Please note my versions (no command
activate-key). Thanks

show version:
Cisco PIX Firewall Version 6.1(3)
Cisco PIX Device Manager Version 1.1(2)

Compiled on Fri 22-Feb-02 08:15 by morlee

pixfirewall up 45 mins 40 secs

Hardware:   PIX-501, 16 MB RAM, CPU Am5x86 133 MHz
Flash E28F640J3 @ 0x300, 8MB
BIOS Flash E28F640J3 @ 0xfffd8000, 128KB

0: ethernet0: address is 000a.411e.f696, irq 9
1: ethernet1: address is 000a.411e.f697, irq 10

Licensed Features:
Failover:   Disabled
VPN-DES:Disabled
VPN-3DES:   Disabled
Maximum Interfaces: 2




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Network size [7:49704]

2002-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all,

I can't for the life of me remember what the recommended maximum number of
clients on one segment is, I think it was either 300 or 500.

Can anyone confirm ?

Cheers,

Graham.




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Re: Can't console 4000 router [7:49692]

2002-07-25 Thread alain faure

Hi,

Have you try the Auxiliary port ?

Best regards

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RE: Anyone tried Huawei Routers ? [7:49670]

2002-07-25 Thread Mark W. Odette II

Where does one go to buy these units??  I did a search on Google and
Ingram Micro, but couldn't find a reseller or price list for anything.

I even checked the company website (datacomm.huawei.com), and it looked
like the company is set up in similar fashion to Cisco - No direct
purchase.

Just idle curiosity of their retail pricing structure.

mark

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From: cebuano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:20 PM
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Subject: RE: Anyone tried Huawei Routers ? [7:49670]

Yeah, this company even has its own stack of certs starting with
HCNE, HCSE, and last but not least, HCIE!!! Yikes, some more paper
Certs to hang on the wall :->
But on the serious note, if I can get this 3640 for $500 and load a
Cisco IOS, who cares?? Heck, buy the 3680.

Elmer

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Ron Tan
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:16 PM
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Subject: OT: Anyone tried Huawei Routers ? [7:49670]

Hi group,

A piece of Huawei 3640 router just came in the office for evaluation.
The
whole box seems like a complete duplicate of Cisco's routers, even the
CLI
looks and feels like home.

Heard that the Huawei box has the ability to run EIGRP and HSRP together
with Cisco. Anyone tried running the 2 boxes parallel together ?

Comments welcome.

Regards,

Ron Tan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: Any beginners books about BGP. [7:49695]

2002-07-25 Thread John Neiberger

I would highly recommend two books:

BGP4: Interdomain Routing in the Internet, by John W. Stewart III

Internet Routing Architectures, 2nd Edition by Basaam (Sam) Halabi

The first book is deceptively short.  It may be small but I found it to
have excellent descriptions and examples.

HTH,
John

>>> "sam sneed"  7/25/02 12:36:58 PM >>>
I am mostly a LAN administrator and my network isn't large enough for
me to
get any dynamic routing experience. I am interseted in learning BGP.
I've
got the Cisco Press and Sybex CCNP routing books but I didn't like the
BGP
coverage, it seemed inadequate. Could anyone recommend a BGP book that
is
thorough but would let a beginner understand it initially?
Anyone think you need to learn OSPF or EIGRP before BGP?

Thanks for the opinions in advance.




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RE: ip default-network [7:49619]

2002-07-25 Thread Oleg Oz

Here is a helpfull link.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/default.html


 Oleg Oz.


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Re: Any beginners books about BGP. [7:49695]

2002-07-25 Thread Chuck

as Howard likes to say, it's rocket science, not BGP

meaning that BGP can be difficult at first. Along with the usual
recommendations of the Cisco Press BGP book by Halabi, you might want to
take a look through BGP4 by John W. Stewart III.  And maybe the RFC. Only
don't get bogged down in the programmers' details. Just the overview.

basic BGP is very simple, really. where it gets difficult to understand and
configure is when you want to do anything interesting and useful. :->



""sam sneed""  wrote in message
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> I am mostly a LAN administrator and my network isn't large enough for me
to
> get any dynamic routing experience. I am interseted in learning BGP. I've
> got the Cisco Press and Sybex CCNP routing books but I didn't like the BGP
> coverage, it seemed inadequate. Could anyone recommend a BGP book that is
> thorough but would let a beginner understand it initially?
> Anyone think you need to learn OSPF or EIGRP before BGP?
>
> Thanks for the opinions in advance.




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Re: Any beginners books about BGP. [7:49695]

2002-07-25 Thread Scott

Routing TCP/IP Vol. II by Doyle is a good start.  For more advanced info.,
check out Halabi's Internet Routing Architecture.  Parkhurst also has a book
called BGP4 Config. and Command Handbook that is good.

HTH,
Scott
CCIE #9340

""sam sneed""  wrote in message
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> I am mostly a LAN administrator and my network isn't large enough for me
to
> get any dynamic routing experience. I am interseted in learning BGP. I've
> got the Cisco Press and Sybex CCNP routing books but I didn't like the BGP
> coverage, it seemed inadequate. Could anyone recommend a BGP book that is
> thorough but would let a beginner understand it initially?
> Anyone think you need to learn OSPF or EIGRP before BGP?
>
> Thanks for the opinions in advance.




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Re: Anyone tried Huawei Routers ? [7:49670]

2002-07-25 Thread Thomas E. Lawrence

See what happens when American companies send their manufacturing to China?
All those products sure look like their Cisco counterparts. Why pay Cisco's
price when you can buy the Chinese knock off and save a ton of money?

What was it Lenin said? When it comes time to hang the Capitalists, they
will cut eachother's throats to sell us the rope?

BTW, I find no mention of EIGRP on the website.
http://datacomm.huawei.com/english/

Tom


""cebuano""  wrote in message
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> Yeah, this company even has its own stack of certs starting with
> HCNE, HCSE, and last but not least, HCIE!!! Yikes, some more paper
> Certs to hang on the wall :->
> But on the serious note, if I can get this 3640 for $500 and load a
> Cisco IOS, who cares?? Heck, buy the 3680.
>
> Elmer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Ron Tan
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT: Anyone tried Huawei Routers ? [7:49670]
>
> Hi group,
>
> A piece of Huawei 3640 router just came in the office for evaluation.
> The
> whole box seems like a complete duplicate of Cisco's routers, even the
> CLI
> looks and feels like home.
>
> Heard that the Huawei box has the ability to run EIGRP and HSRP together
> with Cisco. Anyone tried running the 2 boxes parallel together ?
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ron Tan
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Any beginners books about BGP. [7:49695]

2002-07-25 Thread sam sneed

I am mostly a LAN administrator and my network isn't large enough for me to
get any dynamic routing experience. I am interseted in learning BGP. I've
got the Cisco Press and Sybex CCNP routing books but I didn't like the BGP
coverage, it seemed inadequate. Could anyone recommend a BGP book that is
thorough but would let a beginner understand it initially?
Anyone think you need to learn OSPF or EIGRP before BGP?

Thanks for the opinions in advance.




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RE: TCP sequence numbers question [7:49535]

2002-07-25 Thread Evans, TJ

Is it also relevant/correct that in a case like this, just under normal TCP
operation, HostB would assumes HostA did not receive the ACK, which resulted
in HostA restransmitting the original packet ... and HostB re-ACK'ing it ...
etc. etc.  ?


Thanks!
TJ


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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TCP sequence numbers question [7:49535]

I already explained that, as does Stevens. (You have his book, I think. It's
great.) The RFCs may not explain it. The creators or TCP don't approve of
keeaplives.

Anyway, the sender purposely keeps the sequence number the same when
implementing the keepalive process. That causes the recipient to trash the
garbage byte instead of giving it to the application. Remember there's an
application running above all this (identified by the port number). The
transport layer does not pass the garbage byte to the application because it
appears to be a byte it already received. That's a basic TCP task.

Priscilla

sam sneed wrote:
> 
> > > So using the example below (host A 192.168.133.21, B
> > > 10.10.10.12), A sends 1
> > > byte of data, last successful sent byte is 2653258021,
> >
> > No, the last successful byte is 2653258020. That's Host A's
> sequence
> number.
> > Host A sends only one byte, the byte numbered 2653258020.
> > The analyer you're using (is it TCPdump?) doesn't do a good
> job of making
> > this clear. I think it's trying to help you see what the
> expected ACK
> should
> > be. Don't read the second number as the sequence number of
> the last byte
> > sent. You'll be off by one if you do that.
> 
> 
> > A common mistake people make (and your analyzer may be
> making) is to add
> the
> > length of the data to the sequence number to get the sequence
> number of
> the
> > final byte of data in the segment. That's doesn't work.
> You're mixing
> apples
> > and oranges. Actually, you're mixing cardinal numbers (how
> many, length)
> > with ordinnal numbers (order, rank, sequence). You'll be off
> by one. I
> > explain this in detail in my new book, Troubleshooting Campus
> Networks, in
> > the TCP chapter. ;-)
> >
> > > shouldn't Host B ack
> > > (2653258021)+1 ?
> >
> > No, Host B's ACK should be 2653258021. Host B is saying I got
> 2653258020
> and
> > I'm expecting 2653258021 next. Once again, I think your
> analyzer's method
> of
> > display is confusing.
> >
> 
> Yes, the analyzer is tcpdump and now I understand the error in
> my
> intrepretation. There is still one thing bothering me.
> Host A is a sending a keepalive with 1 garbage as in my
> previous post
> 2653258020, B acks 2653258021 the next SN its expects to see.
> But in my
> example host A sends 2653258020 with 1 byte of garbage again.
> Wouldn't this
> look a duplicate or at least an out of sequence frame since
> host B is
> expecting 2653258021 and has already ack'd 2653258020? There
> are no other ID
> fields in the TCP header so how would it not ignore it as a
> duplicate frame
> when its [src IP dest IP] [src port dest port] and sequence #'s
> are
> identical?
> I imported the raw packets into Ethereal so I could see all
> fields, even the
> 1 byte of garbage data is the same (00 in hex) and the header
> checksum are
> equal.
> I hate to beat this to death,  but this stuff is a science and
> based on
> RFC's, so it kills me not to be able to interpret this exactly
> and
> correctly. There should be no mysteries behind this stuff. After
> troubleshooting my network problem for awhile, I've become more
> interested
> in understanding the exact workings of TCP than solving the
> original
> problem.
> 
> Thanks alot for your insight.
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Re: TCP sequence numbers question [7:49535]

2002-07-25 Thread sam sneed

Oops, sorry about that. I re-read your original post I missed that
paragraph. Staring at those damned tcpdumps all day made me cross-eyed not
to mention the headache.

Thanks for your help.

""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I already explained that, as does Stevens. (You have his book, I think.
It's
> great.) The RFCs may not explain it. The creators or TCP don't approve of
> keeaplives.
>
> Anyway, the sender purposely keeps the sequence number the same when
> implementing the keepalive process. That causes the recipient to trash the
> garbage byte instead of giving it to the application. Remember there's an
> application running above all this (identified by the port number). The
> transport layer does not pass the garbage byte to the application because
it
> appears to be a byte it already received. That's a basic TCP task.
>
> Priscilla
>
> sam sneed wrote:
> >
> > > > So using the example below (host A 192.168.133.21, B
> > > > 10.10.10.12), A sends 1
> > > > byte of data, last successful sent byte is 2653258021,
> > >
> > > No, the last successful byte is 2653258020. That's Host A's
> > sequence
> > number.
> > > Host A sends only one byte, the byte numbered 2653258020.
> > > The analyer you're using (is it TCPdump?) doesn't do a good
> > job of making
> > > this clear. I think it's trying to help you see what the
> > expected ACK
> > should
> > > be. Don't read the second number as the sequence number of
> > the last byte
> > > sent. You'll be off by one if you do that.
> >
> >
> > > A common mistake people make (and your analyzer may be
> > making) is to add
> > the
> > > length of the data to the sequence number to get the sequence
> > number of
> > the
> > > final byte of data in the segment. That's doesn't work.
> > You're mixing
> > apples
> > > and oranges. Actually, you're mixing cardinal numbers (how
> > many, length)
> > > with ordinnal numbers (order, rank, sequence). You'll be off
> > by one. I
> > > explain this in detail in my new book, Troubleshooting Campus
> > Networks, in
> > > the TCP chapter. ;-)
> > >
> > > > shouldn't Host B ack
> > > > (2653258021)+1 ?
> > >
> > > No, Host B's ACK should be 2653258021. Host B is saying I got
> > 2653258020
> > and
> > > I'm expecting 2653258021 next. Once again, I think your
> > analyzer's method
> > of
> > > display is confusing.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, the analyzer is tcpdump and now I understand the error in
> > my
> > intrepretation. There is still one thing bothering me.
> > Host A is a sending a keepalive with 1 garbage as in my
> > previous post
> > 2653258020, B acks 2653258021 the next SN its expects to see.
> > But in my
> > example host A sends 2653258020 with 1 byte of garbage again.
> > Wouldn't this
> > look a duplicate or at least an out of sequence frame since
> > host B is
> > expecting 2653258021 and has already ack'd 2653258020? There
> > are no other ID
> > fields in the TCP header so how would it not ignore it as a
> > duplicate frame
> > when its [src IP dest IP] [src port dest port] and sequence #'s
> > are
> > identical?
> > I imported the raw packets into Ethereal so I could see all
> > fields, even the
> > 1 byte of garbage data is the same (00 in hex) and the header
> > checksum are
> > equal.
> > I hate to beat this to death,  but this stuff is a science and
> > based on
> > RFC's, so it kills me not to be able to interpret this exactly
> > and
> > correctly. There should be no mysteries behind this stuff. After
> > troubleshooting my network problem for awhile, I've become more
> > interested
> > in understanding the exact workings of TCP than solving the
> > original
> > problem.
> >
> > Thanks alot for your insight.




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Can't console 4000 router [7:49692]

2002-07-25 Thread McHugh Randy

I did a write erase and reload on a 4000 router and now cant access it via
the console. Just get a blinking prompt. Any suggestions? All the terminal
settings are correct.
thx


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RE: Anyone tried Huawei Routers ? [7:49670]

2002-07-25 Thread cebuano

Yeah, this company even has its own stack of certs starting with
HCNE, HCSE, and last but not least, HCIE!!! Yikes, some more paper
Certs to hang on the wall :->
But on the serious note, if I can get this 3640 for $500 and load a
Cisco IOS, who cares?? Heck, buy the 3680.

Elmer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Ron Tan
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Anyone tried Huawei Routers ? [7:49670]

Hi group,

A piece of Huawei 3640 router just came in the office for evaluation.
The
whole box seems like a complete duplicate of Cisco's routers, even the
CLI
looks and feels like home.

Heard that the Huawei box has the ability to run EIGRP and HSRP together
with Cisco. Anyone tried running the 2 boxes parallel together ?

Comments welcome.

Regards,

Ron Tan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: OSPF Advertisments [7:49659]

2002-07-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Why would you WANT to do it?? ;-) Seriously, I must be missing something.
There's no need to advertise a default gateway in IP. It's configured on the
end hosts. Can someone tell me what problem we're trying to solve? Thanks.
Sorry if I'm being dense.

Priscilla

cebuano wrote:
> 
> Okay...
> For the CCIE Lab, since static routes are almost always
> prohibited, what
> other options do you have to accomplish this requirement?
> 
> Elmer
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
> Behalf Of
> Dagoski Sam
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: OSPF Advertisments [7:49659]
> 
> Gil Shulman wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Does know how and if I can advertise via OSPF an HSRP IP
> > address as a
> > defualt gateway.
> > 
> 
> Setup a static route with a /0 mask pointing to the HSRP
> interface and
> redistribute into OSPF.
> 
> -Sam
> 
> 




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Re: TCP sequence numbers question [7:49535]

2002-07-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I already explained that, as does Stevens. (You have his book, I think. It's
great.) The RFCs may not explain it. The creators or TCP don't approve of
keeaplives.

Anyway, the sender purposely keeps the sequence number the same when
implementing the keepalive process. That causes the recipient to trash the
garbage byte instead of giving it to the application. Remember there's an
application running above all this (identified by the port number). The
transport layer does not pass the garbage byte to the application because it
appears to be a byte it already received. That's a basic TCP task.

Priscilla

sam sneed wrote:
> 
> > > So using the example below (host A 192.168.133.21, B
> > > 10.10.10.12), A sends 1
> > > byte of data, last successful sent byte is 2653258021,
> >
> > No, the last successful byte is 2653258020. That's Host A's
> sequence
> number.
> > Host A sends only one byte, the byte numbered 2653258020.
> > The analyer you're using (is it TCPdump?) doesn't do a good
> job of making
> > this clear. I think it's trying to help you see what the
> expected ACK
> should
> > be. Don't read the second number as the sequence number of
> the last byte
> > sent. You'll be off by one if you do that.
> 
> 
> > A common mistake people make (and your analyzer may be
> making) is to add
> the
> > length of the data to the sequence number to get the sequence
> number of
> the
> > final byte of data in the segment. That's doesn't work.
> You're mixing
> apples
> > and oranges. Actually, you're mixing cardinal numbers (how
> many, length)
> > with ordinnal numbers (order, rank, sequence). You'll be off
> by one. I
> > explain this in detail in my new book, Troubleshooting Campus
> Networks, in
> > the TCP chapter. ;-)
> >
> > > shouldn't Host B ack
> > > (2653258021)+1 ?
> >
> > No, Host B's ACK should be 2653258021. Host B is saying I got
> 2653258020
> and
> > I'm expecting 2653258021 next. Once again, I think your
> analyzer's method
> of
> > display is confusing.
> >
> 
> Yes, the analyzer is tcpdump and now I understand the error in
> my
> intrepretation. There is still one thing bothering me.
> Host A is a sending a keepalive with 1 garbage as in my
> previous post
> 2653258020, B acks 2653258021 the next SN its expects to see.
> But in my
> example host A sends 2653258020 with 1 byte of garbage again.
> Wouldn't this
> look a duplicate or at least an out of sequence frame since
> host B is
> expecting 2653258021 and has already ack'd 2653258020? There
> are no other ID
> fields in the TCP header so how would it not ignore it as a
> duplicate frame
> when its [src IP dest IP] [src port dest port] and sequence #'s
> are
> identical?
> I imported the raw packets into Ethereal so I could see all
> fields, even the
> 1 byte of garbage data is the same (00 in hex) and the header
> checksum are
> equal.
> I hate to beat this to death,  but this stuff is a science and
> based on
> RFC's, so it kills me not to be able to interpret this exactly
> and
> correctly. There should be no mysteries behind this stuff. After
> troubleshooting my network problem for awhile, I've become more
> interested
> in understanding the exact workings of TCP than solving the
> original
> problem.
> 
> Thanks alot for your insight.
> 
> 




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Re: EIGRP [7:49678]

2002-07-25 Thread Oleg Oz

I had a conversation with a cisco engineer about why there are so many
undocumented commands. He basically told me that before a command is
documented it needs to be documented (no pun intended) by the engineer, this
as it turns out is not as easy as it would sounds. There is a process that
needs to be completed on the engineers side that documents all possible
output, provides debugs and command syntax in all possible compinations. The
fact that this is so time consuming many engineers avoid doing it!

 Oleg Oz.




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RE: OSPF Advertisments [7:49659]

2002-07-25 Thread cebuano

Okay...
For the CCIE Lab, since static routes are almost always prohibited, what
other options do you have to accomplish this requirement?

Elmer

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Dagoski Sam
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OSPF Advertisments [7:49659]

Gil Shulman wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does know how and if I can advertise via OSPF an HSRP IP
> address as a
> defualt gateway.
> 

Setup a static route with a /0 mask pointing to the HSRP interface and
redistribute into OSPF.

-Sam




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OT: Who's out BC - Canada way? [7:49686]

2002-07-25 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

I'm trying to remember who it is/was on this list that worked for a stock
quote (or perhaps online stock trading) company in BC.  For some reason I
thought it was Kevin Wiggle but he's out Ontario-way.

If you're out there, whoever you are, or if you know who I'm thinking about,
could you let me know please?  I seem to be having a memory lapse.  There's
just been too many great people I've conversed with on this list for me to
keep you all straight in my head.




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Static NAT Problem [7:49685]

2002-07-25 Thread Don Claybrook

I have a customer using a single address for port forwarding.  The
translation
for 192.168.1.2 to
12.13.14.15 using port 5631 works fine.  When I issue the command show ip nat
translations, I get
the output as shown on the last line.  The inside global and inside local are
both listed on
port 5631.

However, the translation for 192.168.1.3 to 12.13.14.15, both using port
5993,
does not work.
This shows up on the inside global as 12.13.14.15:1062 and on the inside
local
as 192.168.1.3:5993.

Both translations are configured the same.  Can anyone tell me what it is I'm
doing wrong?

The nat configuration, along with the show ip nat translation, is listed
below.

Thanks for your help.



ip nat translation timeout 300
ip nat inside source list 1 interface Serial0.1 overload
ip nat inside source list 18 interface Serial0.1 overload
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.3 5993 12.13.14.15 5993 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 22 12.13.14.15 22 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 5631 12.13.14.15 5631 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 5632 12.13.14.15 5632 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.2 65301 12.13.14.15 65301
extendable
ip nat inside source static udp 192.168.1.2 5632 12.13.14.15 5632 extendable



Router#sh ip nat trans
Pro Inside global  Inside local   Outside local  Outside global

tcp 12.13.14.15:5631  192.168.1.2:5631   ------
tcp 12.13.14.15:5632  192.168.1.2:5632   ------
udp 12.13.14.15:5632  192.168.1.2:5632   ------
tcp 12.13.14.15:1062  192.168.1.3:5993   21.22.23.24:2282  21.22.23.24:2282
tcp 12.13.14.15:65301 192.168.1.2:65301  ------
tcp 12.13.14.15:5993  192.168.1.3:5993   ------
tcp 12.13.14.15:22192.168.1.2:22 ------
tcp 12.13.14.15:5631  192.168.1.2:5631   21.22.23.24:2281  21.22.23.24:2281




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Re: EIGRP [7:49678]

2002-07-25 Thread Richard Tufaro

i know its the event command but why not document in the IOS?

>>> "Richard Tufaro"  07/25 1:04 PM >>>
Anyone tried the 

show ip eigrp e

command on a router running (of course) eigrp and 12.2(10a)? Seems like its
not in the command sequence.




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RE: EIGRP [7:49678]

2002-07-25 Thread David j

I've had quite problems with that version in my 3620, it seems that atm
interfaces aren't working with older releases, like c3620-is56i-mz.121-5.T10
or even c3620-ik8s-mz.122-8.T5.bin, so I won't be surprised if it has more
mistakes
Richard Tufaro wrote:
> 
> Anyone tried the 
> 
> show ip eigrp e
> 
> command on a router running (of course) eigrp and 12.2(10a)?
> Seems like its not in the command sequence.
> 
> 




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Re: TCP sequence numbers question [7:49535]

2002-07-25 Thread sam sneed

> > So using the example below (host A 192.168.133.21, B
> > 10.10.10.12), A sends 1
> > byte of data, last successful sent byte is 2653258021,
>
> No, the last successful byte is 2653258020. That's Host A's sequence
number.
> Host A sends only one byte, the byte numbered 2653258020.
> The analyer you're using (is it TCPdump?) doesn't do a good job of making
> this clear. I think it's trying to help you see what the expected ACK
should
> be. Don't read the second number as the sequence number of the last byte
> sent. You'll be off by one if you do that.


> A common mistake people make (and your analyzer may be making) is to add
the
> length of the data to the sequence number to get the sequence number of
the
> final byte of data in the segment. That's doesn't work. You're mixing
apples
> and oranges. Actually, you're mixing cardinal numbers (how many, length)
> with ordinnal numbers (order, rank, sequence). You'll be off by one. I
> explain this in detail in my new book, Troubleshooting Campus Networks, in
> the TCP chapter. ;-)
>
> > shouldn't Host B ack
> > (2653258021)+1 ?
>
> No, Host B's ACK should be 2653258021. Host B is saying I got 2653258020
and
> I'm expecting 2653258021 next. Once again, I think your analyzer's method
of
> display is confusing.
>

Yes, the analyzer is tcpdump and now I understand the error in my
intrepretation. There is still one thing bothering me.
Host A is a sending a keepalive with 1 garbage as in my previous post
2653258020, B acks 2653258021 the next SN its expects to see. But in my
example host A sends 2653258020 with 1 byte of garbage again. Wouldn't this
look a duplicate or at least an out of sequence frame since host B is
expecting 2653258021 and has already ack'd 2653258020? There are no other ID
fields in the TCP header so how would it not ignore it as a duplicate frame
when its [src IP dest IP] [src port dest port] and sequence #'s are
identical?
I imported the raw packets into Ethereal so I could see all fields, even the
1 byte of garbage data is the same (00 in hex) and the header checksum are
equal.
I hate to beat this to death,  but this stuff is a science and based on
RFC's, so it kills me not to be able to interpret this exactly and
correctly. There should be no mysteries behind this stuff. After
troubleshooting my network problem for awhile, I've become more interested
in understanding the exact workings of TCP than solving the original
problem.

Thanks alot for your insight.




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Re: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]

2002-07-25 Thread Henry D.

sorry, just couldn't resist - hahaha

besides, if you're capable of doing all these multiple things with and on
the networks,
you're not just an NT guy even though your work title might say that :-)

""Kevin O'Gilvie""  wrote in message
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> Hey,
>
> No flames aginst NT admins.
> In these tuff times Network Admins need to know all
> FW's, Servers, PC's, Mac's, Switches, Routers, even Cabling..
> In order to survive.
> Like myself!!
>
>
> >From: Juan Blanco
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: 'Kevin O'Gilvie' , [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
> >Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:14:08 -0400
> >
> >Team,
> >The way I see it, dhcp on the firewall is only for small number of users,
> >when it comes to mid-size-up network you don't want to use a firewall for
a
> >DHCPCan you see an NT administrator making changes in your firewall
> >because he/she is having problems with DHCP(This network will be
> >available to hackers in the Theater near You)
> >
> >My two cents.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Kevin O'Gilvie
> >Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:27 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
> >
> >
> >I wouldnt put dhcp on the firewall for 300 users.
> >But for 10 or 15 I would.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >-Kevin
> >
> >
> > >From: "Gaz"
> > >Reply-To: "Gaz"
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
> > >Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:37:12 GMT
> > >
> > >What's everybody's view on using the Pix as a DHCP server?
> > >
> > >I used it once, only because after arriving on site to install the Pix
> >the
> > >customer mentioned that his old Firewall was doing DHCP and he had no
> >plans
> > >to do it on anything else.
> > >Seemed to go fine, but would like to know if people have come across
> > >limitations/issues.
> > >
> > >I tend to agree with the view "Right box for the job", i.e. don't make
> >the
> > >Pix do things it's not made for, but if pushed into the situation, how
> >does
> > >it compare.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >
> > >Gaz
> > >
> > >""Kevin O'Gilvie""  wrote in message
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Hi Kelly,
> > > >
> > > > You are absolutely right, and I love your strategy.
> > > > That is the way I did it 2 years ago, but the only thing now is
> >finding
> > >a
> > > > vpn solution for the Macs. I used Pix for the PC's last time round
but
> > >never
> > > > had to do this for the Mac's. Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Kelly Cobean"
> > > > >Reply-To: "Kelly Cobean"
> > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >Subject: RE: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
> > > > >Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 02:18:38 GMT
> > > > >
> > > > >Man, you aren't asking much, are you? ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >Ok, here's the order I'd do things in...
> > > > >
> > > > >First things first, get that firewall in place.  You don't list
what
> > >their
> > > > >internet connectivity is, but if they bought a PIX, it's safe to
> >assume
> > > > >that
> > > > >they have a persistent connection, and that being true, they're
> >really
> > > > >hanging it out there for someone to cut off, so to speak.  Network
> > >security
> > > > >is always a primary concern, and the firewall won't take alot of
time
> > >to
> > > > >set
> > > > >up.  Not setting it up could be very costly.  If they already have
a
> > > > >light(er)-weight firewall like a Linux host running IP chains or IP
> > >tables,
> > > > >replacing this first will save your users down-time later because
you
> > >can
> > > > >pre-configure your internet rulebase/access in preparation for your
> > >private
> > > > >addressing.
> > > > >
> > > > >Next, I'd do the DHCP and Private Addressing.  These go hand in
hand,
> > >and
> > > > >since your firewall is now in place, you can do the NAT/PAT
> > >translations
> > >as
> > > > >needed and not have to rethink these later.
> > > > >
> > > > >Third, get Exchange up and running.  If it's going on a different
> > >system
> > > > >than Quick mail is running on, great!  Now you can get them running
> >in
> > > > >parallel, and move users accounts over one at a time or in batches.
> > >There
> > > > >are probably tools out there to do the mailbox format conversion.
> >Now
> > >that
> > > > >your network is secure at layer3/4, you can focus on the
nitty-gritty
> > >of
> > > > >the
> > > > >user data. (Oh yeah, don't forget that backup!!!)
> > > > >
> > > > >It's a 10,000 foot view, but that's how I'd do it.  I'm not really
a
> > >MAC
> > > > >guy, but I'd venture a guess that most or all of your MAC's run
> >TCP/IP
> > >and
> > > > >support DHCP, so from an L3/4 standpoint, they're really no
different
> > >than
> > > > >your PC's.
> > > > >
> > > > >When doing multiple projects like this, I tend to work along the
OSI
> > >model.
> > > > >If the wiring is horrible, or the NIC's are al

RE: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]

2002-07-25 Thread Juan Blanco

Team,
The way I see it, dhcp on the firewall is only for small number of users,
when it comes to mid-size-up network you don't want to use a firewall for a
DHCPCan you see an NT administrator making changes in your firewall
because he/she is having problems with DHCP(This network will be
available to hackers in the Theater near You)

My two cents.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Kevin O'Gilvie
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]


I wouldnt put dhcp on the firewall for 300 users.
But for 10 or 15 I would.

Thanks,

-Kevin


>From: "Gaz"
>Reply-To: "Gaz"
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
>Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:37:12 GMT
>
>What's everybody's view on using the Pix as a DHCP server?
>
>I used it once, only because after arriving on site to install the Pix the
>customer mentioned that his old Firewall was doing DHCP and he had no plans
>to do it on anything else.
>Seemed to go fine, but would like to know if people have come across
>limitations/issues.
>
>I tend to agree with the view "Right box for the job", i.e. don't make the
>Pix do things it's not made for, but if pushed into the situation, how does
>it compare.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Gaz
>
>""Kevin O'Gilvie""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi Kelly,
> >
> > You are absolutely right, and I love your strategy.
> > That is the way I did it 2 years ago, but the only thing now is finding
>a
> > vpn solution for the Macs. I used Pix for the PC's last time round but
>never
> > had to do this for the Mac's. Any ideas?
> >
> >
> > >From: "Kelly Cobean"
> > >Reply-To: "Kelly Cobean"
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
> > >Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 02:18:38 GMT
> > >
> > >Man, you aren't asking much, are you? ;-)
> > >
> > >Ok, here's the order I'd do things in...
> > >
> > >First things first, get that firewall in place.  You don't list what
>their
> > >internet connectivity is, but if they bought a PIX, it's safe to assume
> > >that
> > >they have a persistent connection, and that being true, they're really
> > >hanging it out there for someone to cut off, so to speak.  Network
>security
> > >is always a primary concern, and the firewall won't take alot of time
>to
> > >set
> > >up.  Not setting it up could be very costly.  If they already have a
> > >light(er)-weight firewall like a Linux host running IP chains or IP
>tables,
> > >replacing this first will save your users down-time later because you
>can
> > >pre-configure your internet rulebase/access in preparation for your
>private
> > >addressing.
> > >
> > >Next, I'd do the DHCP and Private Addressing.  These go hand in hand,
>and
> > >since your firewall is now in place, you can do the NAT/PAT
>translations
>as
> > >needed and not have to rethink these later.
> > >
> > >Third, get Exchange up and running.  If it's going on a different
>system
> > >than Quick mail is running on, great!  Now you can get them running in
> > >parallel, and move users accounts over one at a time or in batches.
>There
> > >are probably tools out there to do the mailbox format conversion.  Now
>that
> > >your network is secure at layer3/4, you can focus on the nitty-gritty
>of
> > >the
> > >user data. (Oh yeah, don't forget that backup!!!)
> > >
> > >It's a 10,000 foot view, but that's how I'd do it.  I'm not really a
>MAC
> > >guy, but I'd venture a guess that most or all of your MAC's run TCP/IP
>and
> > >support DHCP, so from an L3/4 standpoint, they're really no different
>than
> > >your PC's.
> > >
> > >When doing multiple projects like this, I tend to work along the OSI
>model.
> > >If the wiring is horrible, or the NIC's are all old 10Base2 nics and
>have
> > >transceivers to hook them to your BaseT network, take care of the layer
>1
> > >stuff first.  Next, if the network is all unmanaged hubs, and your
>network
> > >is one gigantic broadcast domain, start installing switches to quiet
>down
> > >the network.  Next, get VLANs/routing/security in place for Layer3/4.
> > >Next,
> > >work on the "upper layers" where all of your apps and data live and
>talk.
> > >Just my $0.02 worth.
> > >
> > >HTH,
> > >Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I
> > >Network Engineer
> > >AT&T Government Solutions, Inc.
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Kevin O'Gilvie
> > >Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:07 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
> > >
> > >
> > >Dear All,
> > >
> > >I am jumping into a similar mess as when I started at my current
>company,
> > >but this time the Macs out number the PC's. Well here is the scoop:
> > >180 Macs
> > >50 PC's
> > >Static Ip's
> > >No DHCP
> > >No FW
> > >Quick Mail Server
> > >and a whole bunch of other nasty thing

Modem dial-up speed problem? PLEASE [7:49679]

2002-07-25 Thread Jacques Allison

Hi All,

I have a problem with a 3600 with a nm-8am (8port analog modem card v.34)
for dial-up clients. The speed for the connection is never more than 21.6k
TX and 19.2k RX. Connetction works fine, only slow.
Belief me I read all documention on CCO and now answers for this one. I try
all the modemcaps, and play with the mics init string, with no luck. Does
anyone know what "Call Handle failed for Modem 2/1" means???
Where is my problem??  I exculded the Telco and dial in straight through the
PABX(analog). Same problem...
When I use "debug confmoden" and "debug modem" I get the following:


*Mar  1 03:45:18.303: Modem 2/1 Mcom: in modem state 'Dialing/Answering'
*Mar  1 03:45:18.959: Modem 2/1 Mcom: in modem state 'Incoming ring'
*Mar  1 03:45:21.231: Modem 2/1 Mcom: in modem state 'Waiting for Carrier'
*Mar  1 03:45:33.447: Modem 2/1 Mcom: in modem state 'Connected'
*Mar  1 03:45:34.059: Call Handle failed for Modem 2/1
*Mar  1 03:45:34.059: Modem 2/1 Mcom: CONNECT at 21600/14400(Tx/Rx), V34,
LAPM,
V42bis, Answer
*Mar  1 03:45:34.343: TTY66: DSR came up
*Mar  1 03:45:34.343: tty66: Modem: IDLE->(unknown)
*Mar  1 03:45:34.343: TTY66: EXEC creation
*Mar  1 03:45:34.343: TTY66: set timer type 10, 30 seconds
*Mar  1 03:45:36.435: TTY66: Autoselect(2) sample 7E
*Mar  1 03:45:36.435: TTY66: Autoselect(2) sample 7EFF
*Mar  1 03:45:36.435: TTY66: Autoselect(2) sample 7EFF7D
*Mar  1 03:45:36.435: TTY66: Autoselect(2) sample 7EFF7D23
*Mar  1 03:45:36.435: TTY66 Autoselect cmd:  ppp negotiate
*Mar  1 03:45:36.435: TTY66: EXEC creation
*Mar  1 03:45:36.435: TTY66: create timer type 1, 600 seconds
*Mar  1 03:45:36.567: TTY66: destroy timer type 1
*Mar  1 03:45:36.567: TTY66: no timer type 0 to destroy
*Mar  1 03:45:39.311: Modem 2/1 Mcom: switching to PPP mode
*Mar  1 03:45:39.311: Modem 2/1 Mcom: PPP escape map: Tx map = , Rx
map
= 0
*Mar  1 03:45:39.311: Modem 2/1 Mcom: PPP escape map: Tx map = , Rx
map
= 0
03:45:39: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Async66, changed state to up
*Mar  1 03:45:39.527: Modem 2/1 Mcom: PPP escape map: Tx map = 0, Rx map = 0
*Mar  1 03:46:14.675: Modem 2/1 Mcom: in modem state 'Disconnecting'
*Mar  1 03:46:14.679: Modem 2/1 Mcom: DISCONNECT, duration = 00:00:42,
reason (0
xE) Remote Link Disc
*Mar  1 03:46:15.343: TTY66: DSR was dropped
*Mar  1 03:46:15.343: tty66: Modem: READY->(unknown)
*Mar  1 03:46:16.047: Modem 2/1 Mcom: in modem state 'Idle'
*Mar  1 03:46:16.343: TTY66: dropping DTR, hanging up
*Mar  1 03:46:16.343: TTY66: Async Int reset: Dropping DTR
*Mar  1 03:46:16.343: tty66: Modem: HANGUP->(unknown)
*Mar  1 03:46:16.487: Modem 2/1 Mcom: PPP escape map: Tx map = , Rx
map
= 0
*Mar  1 03:46:17.343: TTY66: cleanup pending. Delaying DTR
*Mar  1 03:46:18.343: TTY66: cleanup pending. Delaying DTR
*Mar  1 03:46:18.487: Modem 2/1 Mcom: PPP escape map: Tx map = , Rx
map
= 0
*Mar  1 03:46:19.343: TTY66: cleanup pending. Delaying DTR
*Mar  1 03:46:20.343: TTY66: cleanup pending. Delaying DTR
*Mar  1 03:46:21.343: Modem 2/1 Mcom: switching to character mode
*Mar  1 03:46:21.343: TTY66: no timer type 0 to destroy
*Mar  1 03:46:21.343: TTY66: no timer type 1 to destroy
*Mar  1 03:46:21.343: TTY66: no timer type 3 to destroy
*Mar  1 03:46:21.343: TTY66: no timer type 4 to destroy
*Mar  1 03:46:21.343: TTY66: no timer type 2 to destroy
*Mar  1 03:46:21.343: Async66: allowing modem_process to continue hangup
*Mar  1 03:46:21.343: TTY66: restoring DTR
*Mar  1 03:46:21.343: TTY66: autoconfigure probe started
*Mar  1 03:46:21.343: TTY66: Modem
ommand:  --AT&F&FS0=1S0=1&C1&D3\Q3\J0\N3%M2%
U2%G1$B38400%B33600--
*Mar  1 03:46:23.919: TTY66: Modem configuration succeeded
*Mar  1 03:46:23.919: TTY66: Detected modem speed 9600
*Mar  1 03:46:23.919: TTY66: Done with modem configuration
03:47:06: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Async66, changed state to down




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EIGRP [7:49678]

2002-07-25 Thread Richard Tufaro

Anyone tried the 

show ip eigrp e

command on a router running (of course) eigrp and 12.2(10a)? Seems like its
not in the command sequence.




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Re: TCP sequence numbers question [7:49535]

2002-07-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

sam sneed wrote:
> 
> How does the other host know its a keepalive? I do not see any
> keepalive
> fields in the TCP packet, perhaps a TCP option?

The recipient host doesn't know that it's a keepalive. There's really no
such thing according to the official TCP RFC (793). The recipient just knows
that it's a byte to be ACKed. The keepalive behavior (such as resending the
same byte over and over again) is controlled by the sending application.

> I think I was more confused by how the sequence #'s are
> incremented and
> ack'd. I read in Stevens book
> " Since every byte that is exchanged is numbered, the
> acknowledgement number
> contains the next sequence number that the sender of the
> acknowledgement
> expects to receive. This is therefore the sequence number plus
> 1 of the last
> successfully received byte of data."

Yes. That's right. When you get a chance, study TCP behavior with an
analyzer when using a protocol such as FTP or HTTP. Studying it with
keepalives won't help you learn because they send either zero or just one
byte, which confuses matters.

> So using the example below (host A 192.168.133.21, B
> 10.10.10.12), A sends 1
> byte of data, last successful sent byte is 2653258021,

No, the last successful byte is 2653258020. That's Host A's sequence number.
Host A sends only one byte, the byte numbered 2653258020.

The analyer you're using (is it TCPdump?) doesn't do a good job of making
this clear. I think it's trying to help you see what the expected ACK should
be. Don't read the second number as the sequence number of the last byte
sent. You'll be off by one if you do that.

A common mistake people make (and your analyzer may be making) is to add the
length of the data to the sequence number to get the sequence number of the
final byte of data in the segment. That's doesn't work. You're mixing apples
and oranges. Actually, you're mixing cardinal numbers (how many, length)
with ordinnal numbers (order, rank, sequence). You'll be off by one. I
explain this in detail in my new book, Troubleshooting Campus Networks, in
the TCP chapter. ;-)

> shouldn't Host B ack
> (2653258021)+1 ?

No, Host B's ACK should be 2653258021. Host B is saying I got 2653258020 and
I'm expecting 2653258021 next. Once again, I think your analyzer's method of
display is confusing.

> 
> The problem I'm trying to solve is a TCP connection that
> unexpectedly
> terminates. Supposedly the client can detect this and reconnect
> to the
> server but there are problems. 

Can you put an anzlyer on both sides? One where the client is and one where
the server is? Maybe the server isn't seeing the keepalives or ACKs to the
keepalives. I wish I could help more. It's sounds like your on the right
track though.

Priscilla

> I started the keepalive thread
> last week
> related to the same issue. I thought our firewall may have
> droppped the
> connection from its state table after its timeout but this is
> not the case
> since it seems keepalives are sent every 30 seconds.
> 
> 17:56:46.563514 O 192.168.133.21.5055 > 10.10.10.12.1617: P
> 2653258020:2653258021(1) ack 808512610 win 8760 (DF)
> 
> 17:56:46.604328 I 10.10.10.12.1617 > 192.168.133.21.5055: . ack
> 2653258021
> win 17520 (DF)
> 
> 17:58:20.327090 O 192.168.133.21.5055 > 10.10.10.12.1617: P
> 2653258020:2653258021(1) ack 808512610 win 8760 (DF)
> 
> 17:58:20.368296 I 10.10.10.12.1617 > 192.168.133.21.5055: . ack
> 2653258021
> win 17520 (DF)
> 
> 17:59:54.090651 O 192.168.133.21.5055 > 10.10.10.12.1617: P
> 2653258020:2653258021(1) ack 808512610 win 8760 (DF)
> 
> 17:59:54.132170 I 10.10.10.12.1617 > 192.168.133.21.5055: . ack
> 2653258021
> win 17520 (DF)
> 
> ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in
> message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > sam sneed wrote:
> > >
> > > I have been troubleshooting a problem and have seen
> something I
> > > don't
> > > understand. If host A sends data to host B and host B acks
> the
> > > data, isn't
> > > host A supposed to increment its seq #. Here is an actual
> > > tcpdump. Host A is
> > > 192.168.133.21 and B is 10.10.10.12.
> > > You'll notice host A is pushing 1 byte of data and Host B is
> > > acking it, yet
> > > host A's seq never increments. Is this normal?
> >
> > It sounds like Host A has gone into a keepalive mode. It
> doesn't have any
> > actual data to send, so it just sits there sending one byte
> at a time.
> >
> > We had a long discussion about TCP keepalives last week
> sometime. You
> might
> > want to check the archives. The TCP RFC (793) doesn't
> actually mention
> > keepalives. With ordinary TCP, when there's no data to send,
> both sides
> are
> > silent. But a lot of implementations send keepalives, and the
> host
> > requirements RFC does say that's OK. (RFC 1122)
> >
> > Theoretically a host should just be able to send an empty TCP
> segment with
> > no data to implement the keepalive function. In that case,
> there's no
> reason
> > to increment the sequence number as sequence numbers coun

Re: OT: Anyone tried Huawei Routers ? [7:49670]

2002-07-25 Thread Tom Scott

Ron Tan wrote:

> A piece of Huawei 3640 router just came in the office for evaluation. The
> whole box seems like a complete duplicate of Cisco's routers, even the CLI
> looks and feels like home.

How does the price compare to cisco?

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anyone looking for a new RSP4 ? [7:49675]

2002-07-25 Thread nettable_walker

7/25/2002   11:33am  Thursday

I have one I would like to trade for some other hardware.




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RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I'm curious about why the Linux box couldn't be configured to do the same
job as the Cisco router also. Let us know if your Linux colleagues tell you.
Wouldn't that be great if they could put the Linux box back and give you the
router for your home lab? ;-)

Thanks for a great discussion.

Priscilla

Frank H wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your explanation - I can understand my setup very
> clearly now. I originally asked this question because I have
> not been exposed to that situation before (I'm at the CCNA
> level). You are correct in saying that the cellular box does
> routing for the 192.168.2.0 network. I was also incorrect to
> call my setup a "router on a stick" as another person pointed
> out - it looks similar though. The network drawing was correct.
> The Linux box that was acting as a router in the original setup
> was replaced with the Cisco router in order to correct the
> problem of only one 192.168.0.0 network host being able to talk
> to cellular hosts on the 192.168.2.0 network. My setup is
> exactly the same as the Chicago/San Francisco/New York
> situation you described. I'm just curious as to why the Linux
> box could not be configured to do the same job as the Cisco
> router (with the added static route). I'll have to talk to our
> network guy to see if he can make the Linux box do the same job
> so I can take my Cisco router back home.
> 
> Thanks to all for your help.
> 
> Frank
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > 
> > Frank H wrote:
> > > 
> > > Proper network design?
> > > 
> > > I have a few questions for the group that maybe someone can
> > > answer. From my studies when I got CCNA certified, I
> > understood
> > > that different networks were ALWAYS separated by a router.
> At
> > > my company we have this equipment that was purchased several
> > > months ago that acts as a digital cellular network. It was
> set
> > > up and was able to operate, but only in a limited way.
> > > Basically, this is the setup - the digital cellular network
> > was
> > > on the 192.168.2.0 subnet (subnet mask 255.255.255.0). The
> > > company development LAN was on the 192.168.0.0 subnet
> (subnet
> > > mask 255.255.255.0). The two small networks (less than 10
> > hosts
> > > in each subnet) were all tied together at a 24 port hub. The
> > > gateway to the Internet was through a Linux box. The digital
> > > cellular network was basically a box (with IP address
> > > 192.168.0.100) that passed packets to network 192.168.2.0
> > > through a low power transmitter to the cellular hosts in the
> > > 192.168.2.0 subnet. With this setup, only one desktop host
> on
> > > the 192.168.0.0 network could communicate to the 192.168.2.0
> > > cellular network (desktop host 192.168.0.20). The problem of
> > > only one desktop host in the 192.168.0.0 network being able
> to
> > > communicate with the 192.168.2.0 network was solved by
> > > replacing the Linux box with a Cisco 2514 router (with two
> > > ethernet interfaces). The configuration for the router was
> > > exactly the same as the Linux box except for one small
> > > addition. The following line was added as a static route:
> > > 
> > > ip route 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.100
> > > 
> > > Now let me ask you, have you ever seen a router that gets a
> > > packet on one interface pass it right back out the SAME
> > > interface back to another host on that same network? 
> > 
> > Sure, it happens all the time. There's nothing non-standard
> > about this. It's quite normal for a router to receive a packet
> > on an interface, look into its routing table, and determine
> > that the packet needs to go back out the same interface it
> came
> > in on.
> > 
> > For example, let's say you have a LAN in Chicago that has two
> > routers on it. One router has a WAN connection to San
> Francisco
> > and the other router has a WAN connection to New York.
> > 
> > Clients on the LAN in Chicago can only be configured with one
> > default gateway. So, let's say that you tell them their
> default
> > gateway is the router that goes to New York.
> > 
> > When the clients send a pcket to San Francisco, the packet
> goes
> > to the router that connects to New York. That router sends the
> > packet back out the LAN to the router that goes to San
> > Francisco. The router can send an ICMP Redirect to the end
> host
> > saying essentially "don't use me, use this other router." The
> > host may or may not follow that advice.
> > 
> > This is sometimes called "the extra hop problem," although
> it's
> > not really a problem.
> > 
> > In your case, since the cellular box is a bit weird (only
> > supports one host talking through it I think you said), you
> > would probably want to disable ICMP Redirects.
> > 
> > 
> > >Our setup
> > > basically ties two DIFFERENT class C subnets together
> through
> > a
> > > hub and the Cisco router makes it all work perfectly.
> > 
> > A hub? Now that part is confusing. Are you referring to the
> > cellular box, which sounds like a router to m

RE: Wireless [7:49667]

2002-07-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Scott wrote:
> 
> Anybody know a good source to learn about wireless?  From
> basics of the
> technology all the way to advanced possibly w/Cisco product
> lines.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 

My new book, Troubleshooting Campus Networks, has a 50-page chapter on
wireless. It was written by my coauthor, so I don't feel like I'm blowing my
own horn my recommending it. ;-) It has a lot of detailed technology
information as well as guidelines for designing and troubleshooting a
wireless network, including doing a site survey to check signal strenght,
etc. It mentions some Cisco products, but doens't have a lot of detail in
that area.

The Amazon page for the book is here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471210137/qid%3D1027613889/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/102-8572510-9596157

I've also heard good things about this book:

Wheat, J., R. Hiser, J. Tucker, A. Neely, and A. McCullough. Designing a
Wireless Network. Berkeley, California: Publishers Group West, 2001.

Priscilla






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OT: Anyone tried Huawei Routers ? [7:49670]

2002-07-25 Thread Ron Tan

Hi group,

A piece of Huawei 3640 router just came in the office for evaluation. The
whole box seems like a complete duplicate of Cisco's routers, even the CLI
looks and feels like home.

Heard that the Huawei box has the ability to run EIGRP and HSRP together
with Cisco. Anyone tried running the 2 boxes parallel together ?

Comments welcome.

Regards,

Ron Tan
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Re: TCP sequence numbers question [7:49535]

2002-07-25 Thread sam sneed

How does the other host know its a keepalive? I do not see any keepalive
fields in the TCP packet, perhaps a TCP option?
I think I was more confused by how the sequence #'s are incremented and
ack'd. I read in Stevens book
" Since every byte that is exchanged is numbered, the acknowledgement number
contains the next sequence number that the sender of the acknowledgement
expects to receive. This is therefore the sequence number plus 1 of the last
successfully received byte of data."
So using the example below (host A 192.168.133.21, B 10.10.10.12), A sends 1
byte of data, last successful sent byte is 2653258021, shouldn't Host B ack
(2653258021)+1 ?

The problem I'm trying to solve is a TCP connection that unexpectedly
terminates. Supposedly the client can detect this and reconnect to the
server but there are problems. I started the keepalive thread last week
related to the same issue. I thought our firewall may have droppped the
connection from its state table after its timeout but this is not the case
since it seems keepalives are sent every 30 seconds.

17:56:46.563514 O 192.168.133.21.5055 > 10.10.10.12.1617: P
2653258020:2653258021(1) ack 808512610 win 8760 (DF)

17:56:46.604328 I 10.10.10.12.1617 > 192.168.133.21.5055: . ack 2653258021
win 17520 (DF)

17:58:20.327090 O 192.168.133.21.5055 > 10.10.10.12.1617: P
2653258020:2653258021(1) ack 808512610 win 8760 (DF)

17:58:20.368296 I 10.10.10.12.1617 > 192.168.133.21.5055: . ack 2653258021
win 17520 (DF)

17:59:54.090651 O 192.168.133.21.5055 > 10.10.10.12.1617: P
2653258020:2653258021(1) ack 808512610 win 8760 (DF)

17:59:54.132170 I 10.10.10.12.1617 > 192.168.133.21.5055: . ack 2653258021
win 17520 (DF)

""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> sam sneed wrote:
> >
> > I have been troubleshooting a problem and have seen something I
> > don't
> > understand. If host A sends data to host B and host B acks the
> > data, isn't
> > host A supposed to increment its seq #. Here is an actual
> > tcpdump. Host A is
> > 192.168.133.21 and B is 10.10.10.12.
> > You'll notice host A is pushing 1 byte of data and Host B is
> > acking it, yet
> > host A's seq never increments. Is this normal?
>
> It sounds like Host A has gone into a keepalive mode. It doesn't have any
> actual data to send, so it just sits there sending one byte at a time.
>
> We had a long discussion about TCP keepalives last week sometime. You
might
> want to check the archives. The TCP RFC (793) doesn't actually mention
> keepalives. With ordinary TCP, when there's no data to send, both sides
are
> silent. But a lot of implementations send keepalives, and the host
> requirements RFC does say that's OK. (RFC 1122)
>
> Theoretically a host should just be able to send an empty TCP segment with
> no data to implement the keepalive function. In that case, there's no
reason
> to increment the sequence number as sequence numbers count payload bytes.
> However, some older implementations based on 4.2 BSD UNIX do not respond
if
> the keepalive contains no data, causing the sender to think its partner
has
> died.
>
> Some systems instead send one garbage byte of data to elicit an ACK. They
> purposely keep the sequence number the same so that the garbage byte can't
> cause any harm. It's not the expected sequence number. It's a sequence
> number that the receiver already received and ACKed, so the byte is thrown
> away before being given to an application (although it is ACKed by TCP.)
>
> Some implementations send a keepalive with no data and if no response is
> received, switch over to the 4.2 BSD style and send a garbage byte.
>
> Anyway, I doubt this is related to the problem you are troubleshooting
since
> it's normal behavior. What is the problem? Can you tell us more about it?
> Thanks.
> 
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com
>
>
> >
> > 17:56:46.563514 O 192.168.133.21.5055 > 10.10.10.12.1617: P
> > 2653258020:2653258021(1) ack 808512610 win 8760 (DF)
> > 17:56:46.604328 I 10.10.10.12.1617 > 192.168.133.21.5055: . ack
> > 2653258021
> > win 17520 (DF)
> > 17:58:20.327090 O 192.168.133.21.5055 > 10.10.10.12.1617: P
> > 2653258020:2653258021(1) ack 808512610 win 8760 (DF)
> > 17:58:20.368296 I 10.10.10.12.1617 > 192.168.133.21.5055: . ack
> > 2653258021
> > win 17520 (DF)
> > 17:59:54.090651 O 192.168.133.21.5055 > 10.10.10.12.1617: P
> > 2653258020:2653258021(1) ack 808512610 win 8760 (DF)
> > 17:59:54.132170 I 10.10.10.12.1617 > 192.168.133.21.5055: . ack
> > 2653258021
> > win 17520 (DF)
> > 18:01:27.854289 O 192.168.133.21.5055 > 10.10.10.12.1617: P
> > 2653258020:2653258021(1) ack 808512610 win 8760 (DF)
> > 18:01:27.895254 I 10.10.10.12.1617 > 192.168.133.21.5055: . ack
> > 2653258021
> > win 17520 (DF)
> > 18:03:01.618100 O 192.168.133.21.5055 > 10.10.10.12.1617: P
> > 2653258020:2653258021(1) ack 808512610 win 8760 (DF)
> > 18:03:01.658892 I 10.10.10.12.1617 > 192.168.133.21.5055: . ack
> > 2653258021

Re: DCE or DTE [7:49625]

2002-07-25 Thread Chuck

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> The command is show controllers..or show controllers serial 0..or
> show controllers serial 1
> It will tell you a the beging if your end is a DTE or a DCE


FYI:

Router_1#show controllers s 1
HD unit 1, idb = 0x1B3274, driver structure at 0x1B95E8
buffer size 1524  HD unit 1, V.35 DCE cable, clockrate 100

DCE end attached.


>
> JB
>
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> John Brandis
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: DCE or DTE [7:49625]
>
>
> Been away from routers for a while
>
> whats the command to figure out which serial in in a back to abck config
is
> DCE/DTE ?
>
> Reason is I have 2 back to back 2503's. My serial cable is going to S0 in
> each router. IN the configs, I have
>
> Bris Router#
> int s0
> ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
> encapsulation ppp
> bandwidth 64
> clock rate 64000
> no shut
>
> Melb Router#
> int s0
> ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
> encapsulation ppp
> bandwidth 64
> no shut
>
> What am I missing as I have the int face is up, line proto down. I really
> should be able to figure this one out, however its late afternoon in
> Australia and I want to sleep after a big night of watching Buffy repeats.
>
> John Brandis
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OT: Testing and Validation [7:49668]

2002-07-25 Thread Kim Graham

Sorry for the off topic question.

I know there are a lot of people on this list that either understand, have a
hand in doing, or can point me to resources concerning Validation and
Testing of Network systems.   If you are none of the above my apologies and 
please delete this email.  If you are one of the above maybe you will have
an answer.

Part of my position is to work with our Validation department in the
documentation, testing and validating of our corporate network.  We are
under the strict regulations of the Canadian and US FDA, as well as several
other regulatory sytems.

My question concerns pointers to resources where we can find (semi-)standard
testing practices and or procedures. We currently have some in place but
would like to ensure we are doing all we can, the best, safest, cost
efficient way to work within the system.

I have found  some resources  in Pricillia's "Top Down  Network Designs",
thank you Pricillia.  Are there any others?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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Wireless [7:49667]

2002-07-25 Thread Scott

Anybody know a good source to learn about wireless?  From basics of the
technology all the way to advanced possibly w/Cisco product lines.

Thanks,

Scott




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RE: DCE or DTE [7:49625]

2002-07-25 Thread Juan Blanco

The command is show controllers..or show controllers serial 0..or
show controllers serial 1
It will tell you a the beging if your end is a DTE or a DCE

JB

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Subject: DCE or DTE [7:49625]


Been away from routers for a while

whats the command to figure out which serial in in a back to abck config is
DCE/DTE ?

Reason is I have 2 back to back 2503's. My serial cable is going to S0 in
each router. IN the configs, I have

Bris Router#
int s0
ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
encapsulation ppp
bandwidth 64
clock rate 64000
no shut

Melb Router#
int s0
ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
encapsulation ppp
bandwidth 64
no shut

What am I missing as I have the int face is up, line proto down. I really
should be able to figure this one out, however its late afternoon in
Australia and I want to sleep after a big night of watching Buffy repeats.

John Brandis

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RE: OSPF Advertisments [7:49659]

2002-07-25 Thread Dagoski Sam

Gil Shulman wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does know how and if I can advertise via OSPF an HSRP IP
> address as a
> defualt gateway.
> 

Setup a static route with a /0 mask pointing to the HSRP interface and
redistribute into OSPF.

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Re: How to use tftp server?? [7:49651]

2002-07-25 Thread Chuck

""Hunt Lee""  wrote in message
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> Hi Group,
>
> Can anyone please explain to me what command syntax to boot up a router
> using TFTP stftp c2500-jk8os-l.122-1d 172.16.0.1erver?
>
> I can do a copy tftp flash, but when I tried to set up a boot system, it
> keeps on failing to boot...
>
> Is this correct??
>
> boot system c2500-jk8os-l.122-1d 172.16.0.1
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Not meant to be a put down, but one thing you might do is make use of the
"?" when you are working on these things:

Router_1(config)#boot ?
  bootstrap  Bootstrap image file
  host   Router-specific config file
  networkNetwork-wide config file
  system System image file

Router_1(config)#boot network ?
  WORD  TFTP filename or URL
  mop   Boot from a Decnet MOP server
  tftp  Boot from a tftp server

Router_1(config)#boot network tftp ?
  WORD  Network-wide configuration filename

Router_1(config)#boot network tftp FILE ?
  Hostname or A.B.C.D  Address from which to download the file
  

Router_1(config)#boot network tftp FILE 1.1.1.1


Another thing you might do is check the command reference on CCO

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/inde
x.htm
watch the wrap


HTH











>
> Best Regards,
> H.




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RE: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]

2002-07-25 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie

Hey,

No flames aginst NT admins.
In these tuff times Network Admins need to know all
FW's, Servers, PC's, Mac's, Switches, Routers, even Cabling..
In order to survive.
Like myself!!


>From: Juan Blanco 
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: 'Kevin O'Gilvie' , [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
>Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:14:08 -0400
>
>Team,
>The way I see it, dhcp on the firewall is only for small number of users,
>when it comes to mid-size-up network you don't want to use a firewall for a
>DHCPCan you see an NT administrator making changes in your firewall
>because he/she is having problems with DHCP(This network will be
>available to hackers in the Theater near You)
>
>My two cents.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Kevin O'Gilvie
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:27 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
>
>
>I wouldnt put dhcp on the firewall for 300 users.
>But for 10 or 15 I would.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Kevin
>
>
> >From: "Gaz"
> >Reply-To: "Gaz"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
> >Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:37:12 GMT
> >
> >What's everybody's view on using the Pix as a DHCP server?
> >
> >I used it once, only because after arriving on site to install the Pix 
>the
> >customer mentioned that his old Firewall was doing DHCP and he had no 
>plans
> >to do it on anything else.
> >Seemed to go fine, but would like to know if people have come across
> >limitations/issues.
> >
> >I tend to agree with the view "Right box for the job", i.e. don't make 
>the
> >Pix do things it's not made for, but if pushed into the situation, how 
>does
> >it compare.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Gaz
> >
> >""Kevin O'Gilvie""  wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi Kelly,
> > >
> > > You are absolutely right, and I love your strategy.
> > > That is the way I did it 2 years ago, but the only thing now is 
>finding
> >a
> > > vpn solution for the Macs. I used Pix for the PC's last time round but
> >never
> > > had to do this for the Mac's. Any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Kelly Cobean"
> > > >Reply-To: "Kelly Cobean"
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: RE: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
> > > >Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 02:18:38 GMT
> > > >
> > > >Man, you aren't asking much, are you? ;-)
> > > >
> > > >Ok, here's the order I'd do things in...
> > > >
> > > >First things first, get that firewall in place.  You don't list what
> >their
> > > >internet connectivity is, but if they bought a PIX, it's safe to 
>assume
> > > >that
> > > >they have a persistent connection, and that being true, they're 
>really
> > > >hanging it out there for someone to cut off, so to speak.  Network
> >security
> > > >is always a primary concern, and the firewall won't take alot of time
> >to
> > > >set
> > > >up.  Not setting it up could be very costly.  If they already have a
> > > >light(er)-weight firewall like a Linux host running IP chains or IP
> >tables,
> > > >replacing this first will save your users down-time later because you
> >can
> > > >pre-configure your internet rulebase/access in preparation for your
> >private
> > > >addressing.
> > > >
> > > >Next, I'd do the DHCP and Private Addressing.  These go hand in hand,
> >and
> > > >since your firewall is now in place, you can do the NAT/PAT
> >translations
> >as
> > > >needed and not have to rethink these later.
> > > >
> > > >Third, get Exchange up and running.  If it's going on a different
> >system
> > > >than Quick mail is running on, great!  Now you can get them running 
>in
> > > >parallel, and move users accounts over one at a time or in batches.
> >There
> > > >are probably tools out there to do the mailbox format conversion.  
>Now
> >that
> > > >your network is secure at layer3/4, you can focus on the nitty-gritty
> >of
> > > >the
> > > >user data. (Oh yeah, don't forget that backup!!!)
> > > >
> > > >It's a 10,000 foot view, but that's how I'd do it.  I'm not really a
> >MAC
> > > >guy, but I'd venture a guess that most or all of your MAC's run 
>TCP/IP
> >and
> > > >support DHCP, so from an L3/4 standpoint, they're really no different
> >than
> > > >your PC's.
> > > >
> > > >When doing multiple projects like this, I tend to work along the OSI
> >model.
> > > >If the wiring is horrible, or the NIC's are all old 10Base2 nics and
> >have
> > > >transceivers to hook them to your BaseT network, take care of the 
>layer
> >1
> > > >stuff first.  Next, if the network is all unmanaged hubs, and your
> >network
> > > >is one gigantic broadcast domain, start installing switches to quiet
> >down
> > > >the network.  Next, get VLANs/routing/security in place for Layer3/4.
> > > >Next,
> > > >work on the "upper layers" where all of your apps and data live and
> >talk.
> > > >Just my $0.02 worth.
> > > >
> > > >HTH,
> > > >Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, 

Re: OSPF Advertisments [7:49659]

2002-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

you can first configure the static route on your border router pointing to
the next hop as HSRP ip address and then use default information originate
command under the ospf process.

Kind Regards /Thangavel

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Hi all,

Does know how and if I can advertise via OSPF an HSRP IP address as a
defualt gateway.

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Re: How to use tftp server?? [7:49651]

2002-07-25 Thread YASSER ALY

boot system tftp  

> >Hi Group, > >Can anyone please explain to me what command syntax to
boot up a router >using TFTP stftp c2500-jk8os-l.122-1d 172.16.0.1erver?
> >I can do a copy tftp flash, but when I tried to set up a boot system,
it >keeps on failing to boot... > >Is this correct?? > >boot system
c2500-jk8os-l.122-1d 172.16.0.1 > >Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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OSPF Advertisments [7:49659]

2002-07-25 Thread Gil Shulman

Hi all,

Does know how and if I can advertise via OSPF an HSRP IP address as a
defualt gateway.

Thank you in advance,

Gil
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Re: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]

2002-07-25 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie

I wouldnt put dhcp on the firewall for 300 users.
But for 10 or 15 I would.

Thanks,

-Kevin


>From: "Gaz" 
>Reply-To: "Gaz" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
>Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:37:12 GMT
>
>What's everybody's view on using the Pix as a DHCP server?
>
>I used it once, only because after arriving on site to install the Pix the
>customer mentioned that his old Firewall was doing DHCP and he had no plans
>to do it on anything else.
>Seemed to go fine, but would like to know if people have come across
>limitations/issues.
>
>I tend to agree with the view "Right box for the job", i.e. don't make the
>Pix do things it's not made for, but if pushed into the situation, how does
>it compare.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Gaz
>
>""Kevin O'Gilvie""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi Kelly,
> >
> > You are absolutely right, and I love your strategy.
> > That is the way I did it 2 years ago, but the only thing now is finding 
>a
> > vpn solution for the Macs. I used Pix for the PC's last time round but
>never
> > had to do this for the Mac's. Any ideas?
> >
> >
> > >From: "Kelly Cobean"
> > >Reply-To: "Kelly Cobean"
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
> > >Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 02:18:38 GMT
> > >
> > >Man, you aren't asking much, are you? ;-)
> > >
> > >Ok, here's the order I'd do things in...
> > >
> > >First things first, get that firewall in place.  You don't list what
>their
> > >internet connectivity is, but if they bought a PIX, it's safe to assume
> > >that
> > >they have a persistent connection, and that being true, they're really
> > >hanging it out there for someone to cut off, so to speak.  Network
>security
> > >is always a primary concern, and the firewall won't take alot of time 
>to
> > >set
> > >up.  Not setting it up could be very costly.  If they already have a
> > >light(er)-weight firewall like a Linux host running IP chains or IP
>tables,
> > >replacing this first will save your users down-time later because you 
>can
> > >pre-configure your internet rulebase/access in preparation for your
>private
> > >addressing.
> > >
> > >Next, I'd do the DHCP and Private Addressing.  These go hand in hand, 
>and
> > >since your firewall is now in place, you can do the NAT/PAT 
>translations
>as
> > >needed and not have to rethink these later.
> > >
> > >Third, get Exchange up and running.  If it's going on a different 
>system
> > >than Quick mail is running on, great!  Now you can get them running in
> > >parallel, and move users accounts over one at a time or in batches.
>There
> > >are probably tools out there to do the mailbox format conversion.  Now
>that
> > >your network is secure at layer3/4, you can focus on the nitty-gritty 
>of
> > >the
> > >user data. (Oh yeah, don't forget that backup!!!)
> > >
> > >It's a 10,000 foot view, but that's how I'd do it.  I'm not really a 
>MAC
> > >guy, but I'd venture a guess that most or all of your MAC's run TCP/IP
>and
> > >support DHCP, so from an L3/4 standpoint, they're really no different
>than
> > >your PC's.
> > >
> > >When doing multiple projects like this, I tend to work along the OSI
>model.
> > >If the wiring is horrible, or the NIC's are all old 10Base2 nics and 
>have
> > >transceivers to hook them to your BaseT network, take care of the layer 
>1
> > >stuff first.  Next, if the network is all unmanaged hubs, and your
>network
> > >is one gigantic broadcast domain, start installing switches to quiet 
>down
> > >the network.  Next, get VLANs/routing/security in place for Layer3/4.
> > >Next,
> > >work on the "upper layers" where all of your apps and data live and 
>talk.
> > >Just my $0.02 worth.
> > >
> > >HTH,
> > >Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I
> > >Network Engineer
> > >AT&T Government Solutions, Inc.
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > >Kevin O'Gilvie
> > >Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:07 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Here we go again ( Pix 515) [7:49492]
> > >
> > >
> > >Dear All,
> > >
> > >I am jumping into a similar mess as when I started at my current 
>company,
> > >but this time the Macs out number the PC's. Well here is the scoop:
> > >180 Macs
> > >50 PC's
> > >Static Ip's
> > >No DHCP
> > >No FW
> > >Quick Mail Server
> > >and a whole bunch of other nasty things..
> > >- They just purchases a Pix 515
> > >- They just bought Exchange 5.5
> > >
> > >My projects are:
> > >Set up DHCP
> > >Set up Pix
> > >Set up Private Addressing
> > >Set up Exchange
> > >Migrate them from Quick Mail
> > >etc etc
> > >I have done this before but maybe you guys can help as to how I should 
>go
> > >about this the quickest.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Kevin
> > >
> > >
> > >_
> > >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
> > 

RE: VLAN Trunk Protocol [7:49647]

2002-07-25 Thread Oleg Oz

VTP - is only used to disseminate information among switches in the
same VTP domain - or manage VLAN configurations. Setting a switch as a
server allows you to add/delete/modify VLAN's from that switch for the
entire VTP domain. If the VTP domain server dies :( no problem, your domain
will be fine, however you will not be able to perform your
add/deletes/modifys on that domain. This can be remedied by making another
switch a SERVER.

 Hope that answers you question.


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RE: IS-IS on CCNP routing exam ??? [7:49621]

2002-07-25 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

I took the BSCN 640-603 exam two weeks ago for a client commitment and there
was a simulation question included.

Shawn K.

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> You can find the sample IS-IS chapter from the sybex web site..complete
> chapter on is-is is available.Its pretty good.No the BSCN does not have
> any
> simulation questions.
> 
> ftp://ftp.sybex.com/4095/4095ch06.pdf
> 
> Kind Regards /Thangavel
> 
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> 
> Can anyone let me know whether there will be simulation question on BSCN
> exam.
> Could it be sufficient to have IS-IS preparation by cramming Jeff Doyle
> chapter.Luckily I have it
> It is hard for me to get the chance of having hands on IS-IS with real
> router ?
> 
> I got several unix box to simulate rip,ospf and bgp and running
> routers
> for real connection.
> For igrp and eigrp, I think I had hands-on when I attended the
> training.
> Can you guys and guru give advise how to prepare IS-IS.
> any books, link (beside CCO of course ), ..
> 
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> > You are correct the CCNP track has BSCN which does not cover IS-IS and
> the
> > CCIP track has BSCI which includes the IS-IS prorocol.
> > Also it is true that In future the BSCI is going to replace the BSCN.
> > I have taken the BSCI exam and I have posted my experience few days
> back.
> > The preparation required for BSCI is almost same as BSCN with additional
> > chapter of IS-IS.you can refer Jeff Doyle book  for the IS-IS.
> > The exam pattern for BSCI is different than BSCN.The BSCI exam has
> > simulation question which carries more weight.
> >
> > Kind Regards /Thangavel
> >
> > 186K
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Re: Cat 5000 ram [7:49643]

2002-07-25 Thread Neal Rauhauser

Steal it out of a 2500 you're not using :-) Its the same stuff.



Symon Thurlow wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Anyone have a good source for CAT5K SUP1 Ram?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Symon
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RE: RE: WAKE UP CALL! [7:49649]

2002-07-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Nahhh...it's that Priscilla is an alias for Dagny.


>Simple, the joke is that if you could run off all the candidates, then
>the author of this email below will have a better chance at making the
>kind of money that he's telling everyone else they won't make.
>
>You have to give him credit for creative thinking.  If you can't
>increase the demand, then try to decrease the supply.
>
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>50-60k - Better Read... Re: OT. Any guarantee that the CCIE
>
>Someone with time on their hands, please let me in on
>the joke.
>
>-Bob
>>  Don't you mean "Miracle Metal" :-)
>>
>>  On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:04:13 -0700, "Joseph Ezerski"
>>   wrote :
>>
>>  > All they all said Reardon Metal would never work.
>>  >
>>  > -Original Message-
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>Of
>>  > Darby Weaver
>>  > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 8:57 AM
>>  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  > Subject: WAKE UP CALL! You "only have a CCIE" and you want more than
>>  > 50-60k - Better Read... Re: OT. Any guarantee that the CCIE
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Well said...
>>  >
>>  > The fact of the matter is with many larger corporate ISPs going down
>or
>>  > taking large hits and the sheer number of consolidations, it is
>merely a
>>  > numbers game...
>>  >
>>  > Another fact is the sheer number of career-certified and Cisco
>Academy
>>  > Graduates.
>>  >
>>  > The Cisco Academy had over 297,000 students enrolled a few months
>ago and
>>  > more by now.
>>  >
>>  > Now when I was in high school and $3.25 was the minimum wage, things
>
>>  weren't
>>  > quite so obvious.
>>  >
>>  > But with that many potential job hires - a simple fact comes to
>mind:  You
>>  > do not need a CCIE to get your 1600/1700/2500/2600 connected to the
>>  > Internet.  Period.
>>  >
>>  > Now of there are 7-8,000+ Active CCIE's; 297,000 Cisco Academy
>Graduates,
>>  X
>>  > thousand CCNA's, and X thousand CCNP's, then you will quickly
>understand
>>  > that the demand has diminished.
>>  >
>>  > A lot of the old Microsoft, Novell, Unix Admins are moving over in
>herds.
>>  > Yep, faster than you can wink your eyes.
>>  >
>>  > Remember, the education facilities told them they could make
>70,000.00+
>>  and
>>  > 500,000 - 1,000,000 moved over in just a couple of years or so it
>seems. 
>>  Oh
>>  > yes, and they had to pass 3-7 exams or so...
>>  >
>>  > Now they are being told they can earn a 6-digit salary if they can
>spell
>>  > Cisco.  And it seems they think it can be done with a few months
>study
>>  and a
>>  > passing one test and one puny lab.
>>  >
>>  > Well - Wake up call - They can pass this test much like any other.
>May
>>  take
>>  > them 7-10 tries or more, but guess what some spent 10k+ to earn half
>of
>>  the
>>  > salary of a CCIE.  So you better believe they are coming.  In herds.
>>  >
>>  > Some of them will stay, but even if only 10% stay you are sill going
>to
>>  have
>>  > 50,000-100,000+ new Cisco Certified Professionals.
>>  >
>>  > Good for Cisco, they sell product.  Bad for Consultant or Partner -
>We
>>  sell
>>  > time, and that value will be diminished with the sheer onslaught of
>new
>>  > people who are "qualified" to work with Cisco Products.  I mean they
>did
>>  > just complete a 5-10 Day Bootcamp and have taken the Lab several
>times.
>>  >
>>  > By our own admission, they are now "qualified" to work with the
>product.
>>  > After all the same lab they paid for is the same one we've been
>training
>>  > for, and some of for years.
>>  >
>>  > Now you may argue, that these wannabees may not be as qualified as
>you
>>  are.
>>  > I mean you have years and years of experience.
>  > >
>>  > Yep.  But you are a CCIE.
>>  >
>>  > Yep.  So are they.
>>  >
>>  > And guess what to a simple employer, you are one and the same.  Some
>may
>>  > know the difference and may be willing to pay, but you better
>believe it
>>  > will be at a lower rate than in the boom years.
>>  >
>>  > You want to differentiate yourself from the imposter.  The fact is
>you may
>>  > well be that imposter.
>>  >
>>  > Remember, this is a study group with 10,000+ members.  Guess what -
>You
>>  are
>>  > that guy.  How can you fault him/her for having the same gleam in
>his/her
>>  > eye that you once had.
>>  >
>>  > Even more shocking, the beauty of Cisco is that we can do just about
>>  > everything remotely.  So our counterparts in any country can now
>assume
>>  our
>>  > roles in our country.  They no longer even need an H1-B.
>>  >
>>  > And you better believe they can do it cheaper.
>>  >
>>  > Now evaluate your credentials and remember that your competition is
>as
>>  well
>>  > versed in English as you, has an american sales counterpart, and
>even
>>  holds
>>  > a M

Re: How to allow outside user to browse the inside web [7:49654]

2002-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

Your configuration should work,looks everything fine.If you have an mix of
access-list and conduit then problem might arise.Cisco recommends
access-list.
You can try with access-list,

sample given below

static (inside,outside) xx.xx.60.21 10.0.0.20 netmask 255.255.255.255
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 next hop address
access-list acl-out permit tcp any host  xx.xx.60.21 eq www
access-group acl-out in interface outside


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Hi all,
I have PIX firewall with 6.0(1) and I am running my mail server behind it
and it works find till now...
these days I need to run a web server "apatche" behind it..
I tried to configure it to allow the oursiders to access the inside web
bage
by usning the following commands:
static (inside,outside) xx.xx.60.21 10.0.0.20 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0
conduit permit tcp host xx.xx.60.21 eq www any

I failed to run this web sites installed on the apatche server...
Is there extra commands I have to add to my PIX to allaow outsider to
access
that web server???
Please help me to fix this issue ASAP

Thanx in advance

magdy
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RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-25 Thread Frank H

Thanks for your explanation - I can understand my setup very clearly now. I
originally asked this question because I have not been exposed to that
situation before (I'm at the CCNA level). You are correct in saying that the
cellular box does routing for the 192.168.2.0 network. I was also incorrect
to call my setup a "router on a stick" as another person pointed out - it
looks similar though. The network drawing was correct. The Linux box that
was acting as a router in the original setup was replaced with the Cisco
router in order to correct the problem of only one 192.168.0.0 network host
being able to talk to cellular hosts on the 192.168.2.0 network. My setup is
exactly the same as the Chicago/San Francisco/New York situation you
described. I'm just curious as to why the Linux box could not be configured
to do the same job as the Cisco router (with the added static route). I'll
have to talk to our network guy to see if he can make the Linux box do the
same job so I can take my Cisco router back home.

Thanks to all for your help.

Frank

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> Frank H wrote:
> > 
> > Proper network design?
> > 
> > I have a few questions for the group that maybe someone can
> > answer. From my studies when I got CCNA certified, I
> understood
> > that different networks were ALWAYS separated by a router. At
> > my company we have this equipment that was purchased several
> > months ago that acts as a digital cellular network. It was set
> > up and was able to operate, but only in a limited way.
> > Basically, this is the setup - the digital cellular network
> was
> > on the 192.168.2.0 subnet (subnet mask 255.255.255.0). The
> > company development LAN was on the 192.168.0.0 subnet (subnet
> > mask 255.255.255.0). The two small networks (less than 10
> hosts
> > in each subnet) were all tied together at a 24 port hub. The
> > gateway to the Internet was through a Linux box. The digital
> > cellular network was basically a box (with IP address
> > 192.168.0.100) that passed packets to network 192.168.2.0
> > through a low power transmitter to the cellular hosts in the
> > 192.168.2.0 subnet. With this setup, only one desktop host on
> > the 192.168.0.0 network could communicate to the 192.168.2.0
> > cellular network (desktop host 192.168.0.20). The problem of
> > only one desktop host in the 192.168.0.0 network being able to
> > communicate with the 192.168.2.0 network was solved by
> > replacing the Linux box with a Cisco 2514 router (with two
> > ethernet interfaces). The configuration for the router was
> > exactly the same as the Linux box except for one small
> > addition. The following line was added as a static route:
> > 
> > ip route 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.100
> > 
> > Now let me ask you, have you ever seen a router that gets a
> > packet on one interface pass it right back out the SAME
> > interface back to another host on that same network? 
> 
> Sure, it happens all the time. There's nothing non-standard
> about this. It's quite normal for a router to receive a packet
> on an interface, look into its routing table, and determine
> that the packet needs to go back out the same interface it came
> in on.
> 
> For example, let's say you have a LAN in Chicago that has two
> routers on it. One router has a WAN connection to San Francisco
> and the other router has a WAN connection to New York.
> 
> Clients on the LAN in Chicago can only be configured with one
> default gateway. So, let's say that you tell them their default
> gateway is the router that goes to New York.
> 
> When the clients send a pcket to San Francisco, the packet goes
> to the router that connects to New York. That router sends the
> packet back out the LAN to the router that goes to San
> Francisco. The router can send an ICMP Redirect to the end host
> saying essentially "don't use me, use this other router." The
> host may or may not follow that advice.
> 
> This is sometimes called "the extra hop problem," although it's
> not really a problem.
> 
> In your case, since the cellular box is a bit weird (only
> supports one host talking through it I think you said), you
> would probably want to disable ICMP Redirects.
> 
> 
> >Our setup
> > basically ties two DIFFERENT class C subnets together through
> a
> > hub and the Cisco router makes it all work perfectly.
> 
> A hub? Now that part is confusing. Are you referring to the
> cellular box, which sounds like a router to me. It's on two
> networks, 192.168.0.0 and 192.168.2.0. It's at least a device
> that can do forwarding based on Layer 3.
> 
> > This
> > doesn't sound like standard network design as I've seen it
> > described in any text so far. I'll describe it a little more
> > for clarity. If i'm on a desktop PC (IP address 192.168.0.20)
> > and ping IP address 192.168.2.2, windows will send that packet
> > to the default gateway (configured as 192.168.0.1 in windows
> > network applet - which is the Cisco router) since it lies in a
> > different

RE: Content Switch [7:49633]

2002-07-25 Thread Frank Jimenez

is a good place to start

Frank Jimenez, CCIE #5738
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Hi,

Am once again posting this.I am looking for some PPT's on Content
Switching.If any one knows any links,Pls let me know.

Kind Regards /Thangavel

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How to use tftp server?? [7:49651]

2002-07-25 Thread Hunt Lee

Hi Group,

Can anyone please explain to me what command syntax to boot up a router
using TFTP stftp c2500-jk8os-l.122-1d 172.16.0.1erver?

I can do a copy tftp flash, but when I tried to set up a boot system, it
keeps on failing to boot...

Is this correct??

boot system c2500-jk8os-l.122-1d 172.16.0.1

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,
H.




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RE: Cat 5000 ram [7:49643]

2002-07-25 Thread Arnold, Jamie

www.superpc.com

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Subject: Cat 5000 ram [7:49643]


Hey guys,

Anyone have a good source for CAT5K SUP1 Ram?

Thanks,

Symon




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How to allow outside user to browse the inside web [7:49648]

2002-07-25 Thread Magdy Ibrahim

Hi all, 
I have PIX firewall with 6.0(1) and I am running my mail server behind it
and it works find till now...
these days I need to run a web server "apatche" behind it.. 
I tried to configure it to allow the oursiders to access the inside web bage
by usning the following commands:
static (inside,outside) xx.xx.60.21 10.0.0.20 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0 
conduit permit tcp host xx.xx.60.21 eq www any 

I failed to run this web sites installed on the apatche server... 
Is there extra commands I have to add to my PIX to allaow outsider to access
that web server???
Please help me to fix this issue ASAP 

Thanx in advance 

magdy  



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VLAN Trunk Protocol [7:49647]

2002-07-25 Thread Cisco_Maniac

Hi,
When I have VLAN configured in my network and I have only one switch in VTP
mode Server. What happens when it goes down? Does another switch take over
or dows my network crumble?
If I have to have more than one switch configured as VTP Server switch, how
does the switch elect themselves to be the primary server switch and how
does the back up server switch upgrade itself to primary position, is it
automatic or is it manually configured.
Regards,
Cisco_Maniac
Not: Forgive me for asking such simple technical doubt (as I can see a lot
of CCIE's and people like Priscilla). I have not hands-on on Cisco's.




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Re: New CCIE Written is here. He afraid, be very [7:49615]

2002-07-25 Thread Brad Ellis

What date are you taking your test?

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
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""Jason Viera""  wrote in message
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> I just registered today what exam version will I be taking?
> Thanks in advance, Jason
> ""Dennis Laganiere""  wrote in message
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> > "The CCIE Program is proud to announce the upcoming release of the
revised
> > CCIE Routing and Switching Written Exam (350-001). The new version of
the
> > exam will go live, and replace the current exam, on August 7th, 2002.
> Note:
> > The revised exam will consist of 150 questions and be 180 minutes in
> > duration. To prepare for this exam, candidates may wish to review the
exam
> > blueprint and study suggestions."
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#5
> >
> > If this is anything like the beta, things just got quite a bit harder...
> > --- Dennis




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Re: DCE or DTE [7:49625]

2002-07-25 Thread Milan Jovancic

the side which gives you the clockrate is DCE side *usually, serial cable
with Female connector*, in your case that is the serial interface on "Bris"
router.

btw:
The command is:

show controllers serial 0

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===8 Been away from routers for a while

JB> whats the command to figure out which serial in in a back to abck config
is
JB> DCE/DTE ?

JB> Reason is I have 2 back to back 2503's. My serial cable is going to S0 in
JB> each router. IN the configs, I have

JB> Bris Router#
JB> int s0
JB> ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
JB> encapsulation ppp
JB> bandwidth 64
JB> clock rate 64000
JB> no shut

JB> Melb Router#
JB> int s0
JB> ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
JB> encapsulation ppp
JB> bandwidth 64
JB> no shut

JB> What am I missing as I have the int face is up, line proto down. I really
JB> should be able to figure this one out, however its late afternoon in
JB> Australia and I want to sleep after a big night of watching Buffy
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port rate limit at catalyst6509 GE [7:49645]

2002-07-25 Thread jackie xu

hi everybody here,
Our customer has one catalyst4006 connected to a catalyst6509 by GE,and they
require to limit the maximum traffic rate at GE to a predetermined number. I
researched it through cco and thought it should be realized via port qos.
And following is the  catalys6509 configuration :

set qos enable
set qos policer aggregate policy1 rate 256 policed-dscp erate 256 drop burst
128
set qos acl ip test trust-ipprec aggregate policy1 ip any  any
set qos acl map test 4/6;(GE PORT)

After this,i tested the download speed via a laptop connected to the
ethernet port of catalyst4006.
I found that the maximum input traffic rate at cat6509 GE port was
restricted,but the output rate restriction didn't work.

Can anyone tell me whether my configuration is wrong or the the port qos is
so, thanks in advance




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Re: IRC server down [7:49616]

2002-07-25 Thread Johnny Routin

It's up... same dns. It was offline for a day a week or so ago.

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>
> is the irc.tacorp.net:6667 server down or has it changed?  If anyone
> knows, please inform me as I like the real-time interaction with others
> studying for the lab.
>
> Thanks...
>
> Tim




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RE: Proper network design? [7:49536]

2002-07-25 Thread Symon Thurlow

Is this what is happening? 

Would it not be looking at it's routing table, seeing that another host
on the same subnet is the next hop, and then sending an ICMP re-direct
message to the originating host, telling it to go directly to the
192.168.0.100 host?

Symon

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This is not the classcial router on a stick model. That model is for
routing between VLANs on a router with 1 interface using trunking. All
this router is doing is taking packets from its eth1 interface,
comparing them to its routing table and forwarding out the same eth1
interface for the gateway which is designated for the 192.168.2.0
network. This is totally legitmate and no secondary or subinterfaces are
needed.



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> The "router on a stick" effect comes from this:
>
> ip route 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.100
>
> All traffic destined to any network not on 192.168.0.0 goes to the 
> gateway
> (192.168.0.1) on interface ethernet 1. The router then re-routes
192.168.2.0
> traffic back on the 192.168.0.0 network to 192.168.0.100 (the "router 
> on a stick" effect).




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Cat 5000 ram [7:49643]

2002-07-25 Thread Symon Thurlow

Hey guys,

Anyone have a good source for CAT5K SUP1 Ram?

Thanks,

Symon




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Re: IS-IS on CCNP routing exam ??? [7:49621]

2002-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can find the sample IS-IS chapter from the sybex web site..complete
chapter on is-is is available.Its pretty good.No the BSCN does not have any
simulation questions.

ftp://ftp.sybex.com/4095/4095ch06.pdf

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Can anyone let me know whether there will be simulation question on BSCN
exam.
Could it be sufficient to have IS-IS preparation by cramming Jeff Doyle
chapter.Luckily I have it
It is hard for me to get the chance of having hands on IS-IS with real
router ?

I got several unix box to simulate rip,ospf and bgp and running routers
for real connection.
For igrp and eigrp, I think I had hands-on when I attended the
training.
Can you guys and guru give advise how to prepare IS-IS.
any books, link (beside CCO of course ), ..

thanks u all,

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> You are correct the CCNP track has BSCN which does not cover IS-IS and
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> CCIP track has BSCI which includes the IS-IS prorocol.
> Also it is true that In future the BSCI is going to replace the BSCN.
> I have taken the BSCI exam and I have posted my experience few days back.
> The preparation required for BSCI is almost same as BSCN with additional
> chapter of IS-IS.you can refer Jeff Doyle book  for the IS-IS.
> The exam pattern for BSCI is different than BSCN.The BSCI exam has
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>
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Re: Cisco 12000 - PPP Bridged Encap [7:49620]

2002-07-25 Thread Ismail M Saeed

I hope the mentioned below answer your Q
Does the Gigabit Switch Router (GSR) support bridging?
  A.  No.  The GSR runs Cisco IOS. Software Releases 12.0S and 11.2GS, which
are designed to provide robust IP routing and enhanced IP services for the
Internet Service Provider (ISP) community.  They do not provide support for
full bridging protocols such as transparent bridging or source route
bridging, nor do they support integrated routing and bridging (IRB).
However, you can use bridged-style permanent virtual circuits (BPVCs) to
allow ATM line cards to connect to a Catalyst switch or to another remote
device that supports bridged-format request for comments

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> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me out with
> this. I send the below e-mail to the Cisco TAC. Any
> pointers would be great.
>
> Thank you!
>
> macsl
>
> TAC:
>
> I'm currently on-site trying to bring up a POS OC-3
> connection.
>
> Here is the topology:
>
> GSR 12000 POS OC-3 L2 Gigabit Ethernet Cloud
>  Gig  Cisco
> 6509
>
> I currently have the GSR set up with a peer address of
> the 6509. The same is
> true for the 6509, the peer is the GSR.
>
> I would like to set up the GSR to send bridged PPP
> packets into the L2
> cloud, so that the cloud would know how to switch the
> packets to the 6509.
>
> I was looking into doing this with BVI's but I wasn't
> able to anything for
> the 12000 under the CCO web page.
>
> Is this possible with a 12000? If so can you refer me
> to some configs?
>
> The current version of code is 12.0(14).
>
>
>
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Re: Can we save the pdf file from CCO web site? [7:49623]

2002-07-25 Thread Monty

no u dont need any thing else. try before you post a query next time.
- monty


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>
> Can I download and save pdf file from CCO web site or do I need either to
> have a diffrent ID and password for that?.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Basar




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Re: CCIE Security Lab [7:17848]

2002-07-25 Thread nrf

You can argue about the technical merits of Windows vs. UNIX all you want,
but you must admit that perception is a powerful force.  Whether something
happens to be reliable or unreliable or whatever, and for whatever reason,
if people in the industry think that something is unreliable and hear from
others that it is unreliable, then for all practical purposes, it is
effectively unreliable.  Perception can often trump reality, particularly on
the sell-side of things.

So the point is, when Cisco says that it has based its soft-PBX on Windows,
that just provides yet another reason for a customer not to buy it (along
with the well-known other reasons not to buy VoIP like poor-quality calls,
expensive phones, etc.)



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> May I ad this little edict that "Buggy/Unreliable OS's" is just a bad
> wrap that the community has labeled to MS "WINDOWS"... without much
> explanation of WHAT was the "unreliability".
>
> Indeed, Security is a different story, and there is plenty of "reliable"
> argument to that topic... but to constantly perpetuate this argument
> that "Windows" is unreliable and buggy makes me ill.
>
> What makes the story of it being buggy/unreliable has always been
> related to device drivers that sloppy-a$$ programmers whip out for
> sub-standard chipsets on the Intel platform running "Windows".  Not to
> mention, the OS's that have been the most unreliable/buggy have been the
> desktop OS's- NOT the Server platform Windows NT.  If you think that you
> should use that Windows 98 box as your company's Server- it's your own
> stupid fault for all the headaches that are derived from therein.
>
> I've worked predominantly in the NT environment for over 8 years, going
> through the NT 3.51, 4.0, and now Windows 2000 version of the server
> platform, and I ONLY have had servers crash when a vendor-specific
> device driver was updated (ahem, Intel ironically was the culprit, and
> they were supposed to be the other half of the "Win-tel" agreement).
> I've also maintained a fair share of different-flavored *nix boxes that
> performed similar functions, for which they suffered the same ailments-
> bad drivers for add-on hardware, whether it be NIC's, RAID Controllers,
> Telephony boards, or power failure.  One thing for sure, the NT box
> didn't spend 30 minutes spewing INODE errors all over the place once
> power was restored... unlike the AT&T Unix brothers did... And yes, I
> know, NT uses a journaling file system as opposed to the file system
> Unix uses.  But for heaven's sake! The DB application on the *nix box
> should have the corruption issues to worry about, NOT the OS!
>
> Most of these Windows NT Servers under my command were Computer
> Telephony systems, a.k.a., IVR's.  They ran like a champ for several
> years without a reboot... the ones that ran for shorter periods were
> maintenance reboots for Service Packs or because of Power Failure to the
> location the box was residing.  These servers were both DEC Alpha's and
> Intel-based OEM and Clone machines.
>
> As I said before, just as much as it is a problem for the *nix platform,
> the "things" that make the OS unreliable is the cheap hardware and
> sloppy device drivers that are applied to the system.  Proper
> installation, and hardening of the OS for the specific purpose it is
> supporting (read don't use the same machine you've set up as your server
> as your desktop too, installing all kinds of non-server related programs
> on it like "free-ware" and demos of programs found in the center or back
> of some periodical you got in the mail), and the Windows NT / 2000
> Server will be just as stable as the next implementation of Solaris on a
> Sparc station.
>
> And again, as Chuck pointed out, if the Applications developed to run on
> the Windows NT / 2000 platform were developed properly, than the servers
> would be reliable in that respect too.  I'm not a programmer by any
> means, but from what I've observed, you can have just as many crashes
> for building crappy DLL's as you can from improper handling/use of C
> library modules on a *nix box.  Not to mention, both types of
> programmers need to know how to program for Memory Address handling.
>
>
> But who am I to argue... the whole slamming of "Windblows" is probably
> just because some bull-headed *nix lackey is just pi$$ed off he can't go
> rebuild the kernel half a dozen times to "tweak" the system on
> "Windows".
>
> And as a final note, I do maintain the argument that ALL of the OS's out
> there have their own place in the industry; there isn't just ONE O.S.
> that addresses all the use/needs of any particular business (keeping
> Support in mind).
>
> Now- Back to our regularly scheduled commentary on Cisco Studies.
>
> -Mark
>
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RE: Content Switch [7:49633]

2002-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi check on this site.
http://www.teledirect.com.sg/cisco/techbytes-content_switch.pdf 
CheerS!!!

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Hi,

Am once again posting this.I am looking for some PPT's on Content
Switching.If any one knows any links,Pls let me know.

Kind Regards /Thangavel

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Re: IS-IS on CCNP routing exam ??? [7:49621]

2002-07-25 Thread hinwoto

Can anyone let me know whether there will be simulation question on BSCN
exam.
Could it be sufficient to have IS-IS preparation by cramming Jeff Doyle
chapter.Luckily I have it
It is hard for me to get the chance of having hands on IS-IS with real
router ?

I got several unix box to simulate rip,ospf and bgp and running routers
for real connection.
For igrp and eigrp, I think I had hands-on when I attended the training.
Can you guys and guru give advise how to prepare IS-IS.
any books, link (beside CCO of course ), ..

thanks u all,

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>
> You are correct the CCNP track has BSCN which does not cover IS-IS and the
> CCIP track has BSCI which includes the IS-IS prorocol.
> Also it is true that In future the BSCI is going to replace the BSCN.
> I have taken the BSCI exam and I have posted my experience few days back.
> The preparation required for BSCI is almost same as BSCN with additional
> chapter of IS-IS.you can refer Jeff Doyle book  for the IS-IS.
> The exam pattern for BSCI is different than BSCN.The BSCI exam has
> simulation question which carries more weight.
>
> Kind Regards /Thangavel
>
> 186K
> Reading,Brkshire
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Re: IS-IS on CCNP routing exam ??? [7:49621]

2002-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

You are correct the CCNP track has BSCN which does not cover IS-IS and the
CCIP track has BSCI which includes the IS-IS prorocol.
Also it is true that In future the BSCI is going to replace the BSCN.
I have taken the BSCI exam and I have posted my experience few days back.
The preparation required for BSCI is almost same as BSCN with additional
chapter of IS-IS.you can refer Jeff Doyle book  for the IS-IS.
The exam pattern for BSCI is different than BSCN.The BSCI exam has
simulation question which carries more weight.

Kind Regards /Thangavel

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Hello guys,

According to CCO, Routing Exam 640-603 does not include IS-IS as exam
material and BSCI exam 640-901 includes it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong that we only need to take just one of them
 either 640-603 or 640-901 ).
Can you guys taken BSCI exam share information about this exam ?
Is BSCI going to replace the Routing exam in the future ??
It is good that Cisco include the IS-IS on the routing exam which will
become tougher for CCNP candidate.

cheers
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RE: Anyone using Cisco ACS? [7:49602]

2002-07-25 Thread Juan Blanco

Well, you can use ACS or a Radius Server, ACS is great, it give you a lot of
options of how to control access to your equipment, you can use it's own
database for users, or you can integrate it with Windows NT... That is what
most ISP use, you can have it in Solaris or NT...I think Cisco can do a
better job with the documentation.You can download a 90 days evaluation
copy which has all the functionalities.

my two cents.

JB

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Is anyone using Cisco Secure Access Control Server and if so, how do you
like it? I am looking for something to work with PIX VPN, RSA SecurID key
fobs, and possibly Cisco Aironet. My Cisco rep recommended ACS but I want to
make sure I'm not rush into something that isn't going to work well. The
main thing I need for VPN is the ability to setup users and give them access
to only certain IP's/Servers. Thanks.




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Content Switch [7:49633]

2002-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

Am once again posting this.I am looking for some PPT's on Content
Switching.If any one knows any links,Pls let me know.

Kind Regards /Thangavel

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RE: ip default-network [7:49619]

2002-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

One can configure a router as a host by executing "no ip routing" and this
point if you want to set a default gateway to your router (acting as a
host) you can do with the command "ip default gateway".Hope this makes  it
more clear.

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the gateway instruction is for a device that is acting as a
host only

The default network command is for a router device...


Larry Letterman
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Can anyone tell me what is the difference between

IP default-network and IP default-gateway

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Lab Swap... [7:49631]

2002-07-25 Thread Edward Sohn

Hey all,
 
Still looking for a August 29th or 30th date in RTP.  If you have one,
and San Jose is actually better/closer for you, I would be willing to
trade my August 29th in SJ.
 
Please let me know ASAP, and reply directly to me, if interested.
 
Thanks!
 
Eddie

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RE: ip default-network [7:49619]

2002-07-25 Thread Larry Letterman

the gateway instruction is for a device that is acting as a
host only

The default network command is for a router device...


Larry Letterman
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Can anyone tell me what is the difference between

IP default-network and IP default-gateway

Regards
kws




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