Re: MAC Address [7:62251]

2003-02-03 Thread s vermill
Larry Letterman wrote:
> 
> In most cases you will only re-write the source mac address
> when traversing
> across a L3 device. 

I don't think that's so.  A host will have an ARP cache entry for its
gateway.  That would be the destination MAC.  The source MAC would be that
of the sending host itself.  Using its own ARP cache, the gateway would
re-write both the source and destination MAC if the destination was, in
fact, directly attached to (or reachable via) another Ethernet interface. 
If not, and the packet needed to cross some serial WAN link, both MACs would
simply be stripped off.  Every L3 device strips off source and dest. MAC at
ingress.  Whether or not a new source and dest. MAC is encapsulated around
the IP packet depends on whether or not the destination is reachable via
another Ethernet interface.

> If you go across a layer 2 network, all
> the mac address's
> would typically be part of the same broadcast domain and not
> need to be changed.
> 
> If you go across a T1 or Frame it will still be mapped to or
> have an assigned IP Address
> that constitutes a layer 3 hop and write its mac address in
> the frame.
> 
> However if I am wrong here, Priscilla or Howard or Chuck
> will let me know...:)
> 
> Larry Letterman
> Network Engineer
> Cisco Systems
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cisco Newbie" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:42 AM
> Subject: RE: MAC Address [7:62251]
> 
> 
> > First, thanks for all that responded.  One clarification
> that I need address
> > is the following:
> >
> > If I cross a L3 router and the outgoing interface is
> something other than
> > Ethernet, will the L2 frame show a new MAC address?  In
> other words, if my
> > outgoing interface is say T1 PPP or even a dial-up, should
> I be seeing a new
> > MAC address?
> >
> > Is it only when I cross a L3 device AND my outgoing
> interface is a share
> > medium like Ethernet that a new MAC address will be placed
> on the frame?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
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difference between Connection trunk, Connection Tie-Line [7:62355]

2003-02-03 Thread neil K.
Hi Folks,

Can anyone please explain the difference between using Connection Trunk and
Connection Tie-Line as applied to a FXO to FXS connection between two
routers.Any good Cisco Links explaining the differences will be great.

Thanks,

Neil I.




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Aux port to Console, Console to Aux [7:62356]

2003-02-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is it possible to setup a Auxiliary to Console port or Console to Auxiliary
port configuration?

Thanx,
mkj




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CCIE Self-Employment [7:62357]

2003-02-03 Thread Jay Greenberg
Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves?  What's the money
like, what sort of companies do you work for?  Do you do short-term or
long term contracts?  Hourly work? 

Thanks,

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Re: 3640 and 2 NM-2FE-2W? [7:62346]

2003-02-03 Thread NECATI ERTUGRUL
Try 12.2T releases, maybe that can solve your problem. These kind of things
can always happen when
dealing with new IOS releases,  new softwares always mean new bugs.


   
 
   
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respond
to
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According to this table you should be able to install 4!

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/routers/ps274/products_data_sheet09186a00800921cb.html


   Dave

Ben Hockenhull wrote:
> I've got a 3640 running 12.2.x software and currently have one NM-2FE-2W
> installed, with 2 WICs in it.  I tried to install another NM-2FE-2W and
> use the WIC slots in that NM as well, but none of the interfaces show up.
>
> I can't find any documentation one way or another about support for
> multiple NM2-FE-2Ws in a 3640.  Anyone know if this is supported?
>
> I'm not concerned about overutilizing the backplane with 4 FE interfaces,
> as I won't use all 4.
>
> Ben
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VPN Gateway and Firewall [7:62358]

2003-02-03 Thread Paulo Roque
Hi all,



A have a Checkpoint FW-1 and a VPN concentrator in a new design.

Where is the best place to put the VPN  concentrator related   to firewall?



a) before the firewall (in the outside network)

b) after the firewall(in the inside network)

c) in parallel with the firewall

d) in a separated firewall interface





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Re: VPN Gateway and Firewall [7:62358]

2003-02-03 Thread Sam Sneed
Inside the firewall. I haven;t worked with the concentrators before, but
have used Cisco rotuer for RAS VPN. All it needs is one interface for this
fucntion, real nice. Putting it behind FW ensures only stateful TCP sessions
are used and protects it from outsiders.
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>
>
>
> A have a Checkpoint FW-1 and a VPN concentrator in a new design.
>
> Where is the best place to put the VPN  concentrator related   to
firewall?
>
>
>
> a) before the firewall (in the outside network)
>
> b) after the firewall(in the inside network)
>
> c) in parallel with the firewall
>
> d) in a separated firewall interface
>
>
>
>
>
> Paulo
>
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Re: VPN Gateway and Firewall [7:62358]

2003-02-03 Thread BJ Rice
You may want to consider the concentrator in a dual DMZ scenario.  The
benefit of putting it in a dual DMZ scenario is not only can you control the
outside access, you can also control the resources a remote can see in the
inside once a tunnel is established.  If you place it behind the firewall,
once the remote has a tunnel they have complete access to your inside network.


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bridging over WAN link [7:62362]

2003-02-03 Thread Sam Sneed
Lets say I have 1 office that I will be connecting to another via t1 link. I
want to use only 1 subnet so basically I want the 2 offices to behave as if
they are switched not routed. Is this possible with Cisco routers?




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Thanks Gary [7:62364]

2003-02-03 Thread Sam Sneed
In case anyone didn't hear yet, Gary's gonna be out of the office for
another week.




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Re: bridging over WAN link [7:62362]

2003-02-03 Thread M.C. van den Bovenkamp
Sam Sneed wrote:

> Lets say I have 1 office that I will be connecting to another via t1 link.
I
> want to use only 1 subnet so basically I want the 2 offices to behave as if
> they are switched not routed. Is this possible with Cisco routers?

Sure. Look at 
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fibm_c/bcfpart1/bcftb.htm

(Transparent Bridging).

Regards,

Marco.




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List Problem [7:62366]

2003-02-03 Thread Richard Burdette
On groupstudy.com I can post via the website but not via email or a
newsreader.  Even when I send a directed email to Paul or any other address
@grouptudy.com, I get an access denied message.  Paul, if you see this can
you tell me why?

Richard Burdette


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AS5300 Error Message [7:62361]

2003-02-03 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G
I'm configuring an AS5300 and receiving the following message:
 
02:00:35: %SHELF-3-DISCOVER_SOCKET_OPEN: socket open failed
-Process= "Shelf Hello Proc", ipl= 0, pid= 35
-Traceback= 607D4C2C 602D4374 602D4360
 
 
 
Cisco's website states:
 
%SHELF-3-DISCOVER_SOCKET_OPEN: socket open failed 
Explanation:   An internal software error has occurred.
Recommended Action:   Copy the error message exactly as it appears on the
console or in the system log, contact your Cisco technical support
representative, and provide the representative with the gathered
information.
 
I have initiated a TAC case with Cisco, but was wondering if any of you have
received this message before and what you found out.
 
Thanks,
Shawn G. Kaminski
EDS - GTO Capability Center
Dow Chemical Test Facilities - Network Support




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Re: MAC Address [7:62251]

2003-02-03 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
s vermill wrote:
> 
> Larry Letterman wrote:
> > 
> > In most cases you will only re-write the source mac address
> > when traversing
> > across a L3 device. 
> 
> I don't think that's so.  

Did you misplace your comment? I think his first comment is correct, but
then a following one is strangely worded. See below.

> A host will have an ARP cache entry
> for its gateway.  That would be the destination MAC.  The
> source MAC would be that of the sending host itself.  Using its
> own ARP cache, the gateway would re-write both the source and
> destination MAC if the destination was, in fact, directly
> attached to (or reachable via) another Ethernet interface. 
> If
> not, and the packet needed to cross some serial WAN link, both
> MACs would simply be stripped off.  Every L3 device strips off
> source and dest. MAC at ingress.  Whether or not a new source
> and dest. MAC is encapsulated around the IP packet depends on
> whether or not the destination is reachable via another
> Ethernet interface.

Or Token Ring, FDDI, LocalTalk. :-)

> 
> > If you go across a layer 2 network, all
> > the mac address's
> > would typically be part of the same broadcast domain and not
> > need to be changed.
> > 
> > If you go across a T1 or Frame it will still be mapped to or
> > have an assigned IP Address
> > that constitutes a layer 3 hop and write its mac address in
> > the frame.

Here's where he went astray. As I mentioned earlier, a serial interface
doesn't have a MAC address and the data-link-layer protocols used across
serial interfaces don't have MAC addresses in them.

The sentence isn't parsable, (sorry Larry!) but may indicate some additional
misunderstanding.  The fact that the next hop has a Layer 3 address isn't of
major significance when talking about forwarding traffic and the addresses
that end up in the forwarded packet. The IP addresses don't change
end-to-end. MAC addresses on LANs change, hop by hop. WANs don't have MAC
addresses.

Yes, routing protocols exchange next hop info using IP addresses. So, if
we're considering Ethernet, at some point the source router must have found
out the MAC address of the destination router using ARP. The router will put
its own MAC address in the source field and the destination (next hop)
router's MAC address in the destination field.

In the case of a T1 point-to-point link, a MAC address isn't necessary since
it's not a shared medium and there's no need to identify which station
should receive the frame. There is only one other station!

Now, Frame Relay is shared "in the cloud." The DLCI would help the L2
switches in the cloud forward the frame correctly. Inverse ARP would help
the router map a L3 next hop address to a DLCI, if I understand it correctly.

Priscilla



> > 
> > However if I am wrong here, Priscilla or Howard or Chuck
> > will let me know...:)
> > 
> > Larry Letterman
> > Network Engineer
> > Cisco Systems
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Cisco Newbie" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:42 AM
> > Subject: RE: MAC Address [7:62251]
> > 
> > 
> > > First, thanks for all that responded.  One clarification
> > that I need address
> > > is the following:
> > >
> > > If I cross a L3 router and the outgoing interface is
> > something other than
> > > Ethernet, will the L2 frame show a new MAC address?  In
> > other words, if my
> > > outgoing interface is say T1 PPP or even a dial-up, should
> > I be seeing a new
> > > MAC address?
> > >
> > > Is it only when I cross a L3 device AND my outgoing
> > interface is a share
> > > medium like Ethernet that a new MAC address will be placed
> > on the frame?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -
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OT: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62367]

2003-02-03 Thread Chuck Church
Yes.  Money will depend on your skill level with both Cisco and other
products as well, such as Unix, NW, MS, etc.  It could be $30/hour, could be
$100.  Location is probably almost as important.  NYC pays pretty well, but
it cost's $50 to park a car for 4 hours!  The thing about consulting like
this is you need be a salesperson at times.  Personally, I hate salespeople,
and therefore don't make a good one myself.  There's also more
responsibility, as far as finding your own insurance, paying taxes, etc.  If
you can find a headhunter who will place you as a 1099 employee, that's
usually pretty good, but I haven't heard from my headhunter in months
:(I was on an indefinite project for a year, but that ended when they
outsourced.  Since then it's all been small projects, mostly complicated
installs involving layer 3 switching.  It's a tough market, and getting a
name for yourself can be difficult.  Personally, I'm looking for a full time
position now.

Chuck Church
CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE


- Original Message -
From: "Jay Greenberg" 
To: ; 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: CCIE Self-Employment


> Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves?  What's the money
> like, what sort of companies do you work for?  Do you do short-term or
> long term contracts?  Hourly work?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
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> 
> .




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specific MIBs on Cat 6509 [7:62370]

2003-02-03 Thread Jeff Smith
I am looking for some snmp OIDs or MIBs that I can incorporate into my 
network management that will give me specific port counters - errors, 
overall throughput per port and things like that.  I have tried Cisco's site 
but cannot seem to find them.  Any ideas?  Thanks.

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Re: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62367]

2003-02-03 Thread Sam Sneed
The 1099 is an easy way to go but you lose out on a lot of tax breaks. I'm a
1099 now and am kicking myself in the ass for not setting up as small
business.
I'm working in NYC now. $6 just to take the bridge into NYC from jersey and
$25 day parking. Never mind 40 minutes each way traffic to commute 10 miles.
If you're set up as a small business you have more flexiblity in writing off
expenses like these.

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> Yes.  Money will depend on your skill level with both Cisco and other
> products as well, such as Unix, NW, MS, etc.  It could be $30/hour, could
be
> $100.  Location is probably almost as important.  NYC pays pretty well,
but
> it cost's $50 to park a car for 4 hours!  The thing about consulting like
> this is you need be a salesperson at times.  Personally, I hate
salespeople,
> and therefore don't make a good one myself.  There's also more
> responsibility, as far as finding your own insurance, paying taxes, etc.
If
> you can find a headhunter who will place you as a 1099 employee, that's
> usually pretty good, but I haven't heard from my headhunter in months
> :(I was on an indefinite project for a year, but that ended when they
> outsourced.  Since then it's all been small projects, mostly complicated
> installs involving layer 3 switching.  It's a tough market, and getting a
> name for yourself can be difficult.  Personally, I'm looking for a full
time
> position now.
>
> Chuck Church
> CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jay Greenberg"
> To: ;
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM
> Subject: CCIE Self-Employment
>
>
> > Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves?  What's the money
> > like, what sort of companies do you work for?  Do you do short-term or
> > long term contracts?  Hourly work?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Jason Greenberg, CCIE #11021
> >
> > .




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Re: MAC Address [7:62251]

2003-02-03 Thread s vermill
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> s vermill wrote:
> > 
> > Larry Letterman wrote:
> > > 
> > > In most cases you will only re-write the source mac address
> > > when traversing
> > > across a L3 device. 
> > 
> > I don't think that's so.  
> 
> Did you misplace your comment? 

No.  I disagree that a source MAC re-write would be all that takes place
when crossing a L3 device.  Host A, sending to an off-subnet Host B, would
use its own MAC as the source and the L3 device interface MAC as the
destination.  The L3 device strips both at ingress.  If, in fact, the
destination is on a directly attached shared medium, the source MAC is
re-writen to that of the egress interface.  The destination MAC is whatever
the L3 device has in the ARP cache for Host B.  Both source and destination
MACs change when crossing a L3 device.  Doesn't it sound like Larry is
saying that the source MAC is all that changes and not the destination MAC? 
Or maybe I just took that wrong?

I think his first comment is
> correct, but then a following one is strangely worded. See below
> 
> > A host will have an ARP cache entry
> > for its gateway.  That would be the destination MAC.  The
> > source MAC would be that of the sending host itself.  Using
> its
> > own ARP cache, the gateway would re-write both the source and
> > destination MAC if the destination was, in fact, directly
> > attached to (or reachable via) another Ethernet interface. 
> > If
> > not, and the packet needed to cross some serial WAN link, both
> > MACs would simply be stripped off.  Every L3 device strips off
> > source and dest. MAC at ingress.  Whether or not a new source
> > and dest. MAC is encapsulated around the IP packet depends on
> > whether or not the destination is reachable via another
> > Ethernet interface.
> 
> Or Token Ring, FDDI, LocalTalk. :-)
> 
> > 
> > > If you go across a layer 2 network, all
> > > the mac address's
> > > would typically be part of the same broadcast domain and not
> > > need to be changed.
> > > 
> > > If you go across a T1 or Frame it will still be mapped to or
> > > have an assigned IP Address
> > > that constitutes a layer 3 hop and write its mac address in
> > > the frame.
> 
> Here's where he went astray. As I mentioned earlier, a serial
> interface doesn't have a MAC address and the data-link-layer
> protocols used across serial interfaces don't have MAC
> addresses in them.
> 
> The sentence isn't parsable, (sorry Larry!) but may indicate
> some additional misunderstanding.  The fact that the next hop
> has a Layer 3 address isn't of major significance when talking
> about forwarding traffic and the addresses that end up in the
> forwarded packet. The IP addresses don't change end-to-end. MAC
> addresses on LANs change, hop by hop. WANs don't have MAC
> addresses.
> 
> Yes, routing protocols exchange next hop info using IP
> addresses. So, if we're considering Ethernet, at some point the
> source router must have found out the MAC address of the
> destination router using ARP. The router will put its own MAC
> address in the source field and the destination (next hop)
> router's MAC address in the destination field.
> 
> In the case of a T1 point-to-point link, a MAC address isn't
> necessary since it's not a shared medium and there's no need to
> identify which station should receive the frame. There is only
> one other station!
> 
> Now, Frame Relay is shared "in the cloud." The DLCI would help
> the L2 switches in the cloud forward the frame correctly.
> Inverse ARP would help the router map a L3 next hop address to
> a DLCI, if I understand it correctly.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> 
> 
> > > 
> > > However if I am wrong here, Priscilla or Howard or Chuck
> > > will let me know...:)
> > > 
> > > Larry Letterman
> > > Network Engineer
> > > Cisco Systems
> > > 
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Cisco Newbie" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:42 AM
> > > Subject: RE: MAC Address [7:62251]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > First, thanks for all that responded.  One clarification
> > > that I need address
> > > > is the following:
> > > >
> > > > If I cross a L3 router and the outgoing interface is
> > > something other than
> > > > Ethernet, will the L2 frame show a new MAC address?  In
> > > other words, if my
> > > > outgoing interface is say T1 PPP or even a dial-up, should
> > > I be seeing a new
> > > > MAC address?
> > > >
> > > > Is it only when I cross a L3 device AND my outgoing
> > > interface is a share
> > > > medium like Ethernet that a new MAC address will be placed
> > > on the frame?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
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Cisco IPSec Tunnel Lifetime [7:62374]

2003-02-03 Thread Leo Song
Hi,

Is it possible to configure the IPSec tunnel never expired on Cisco PIX?
A little bit weird, and we got such interesting request. Thanks.

Leo




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Possibly duable with NAT? [7:62373]

2003-02-03 Thread Cisco Newbie
I would like to know if is possible to do the following:

I have a router that is currently doing NAT.  I have a client who is trying
to access an inside routable IP address of x.x.x.80 on a specific port.  I
need to be able to redirect the clients request to a different IP that sits
behind a firewall on my LAN.  Is this possible via NAT?

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Re: MAC Address [7:62251]

2003-02-03 Thread s vermill
s vermill wrote:
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > 
> > s vermill wrote:
> > > 
> > > Larry Letterman wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > In most cases you will only re-write the source mac
> address
> > > > when traversing
> > > > across a L3 device. 
> > > 
> > > I don't think that's so.  
> > 
> > Did you misplace your comment? 
> 
> No.  I disagree that a source MAC re-write would be all that
> takes place when crossing a L3 device.  Host A, sending to an
> off-subnet Host B, would use its own MAC as the source and the
> L3 device interface MAC as the destination.  The L3 device
> strips both at ingress.  If, in fact, the destination is on a
> directly attached shared medium, the source MAC is re-writen to
> that of the egress interface.  The destination MAC is whatever
> the L3 device has in the ARP cache for Host B.  Both source and
> destination MACs change when crossing a L3 device.  Doesn't it
> sound like Larry is saying that the source MAC is all that
> changes and not the destination MAC?  Or maybe I just took that
> wrong?

I think that maybe Larry was saying that the only time it would be
*necessary* to change the source MAC is when traversing a L3 device.  He
isn't necessarily saying that only the source MAC would change when crossing
one.  Sorry Larry.  I think that was a mis-read on my part.

> 
> I think his first comment is
> > correct, but then a following one is strangely worded. See
> below
> > 
> > > A host will have an ARP cache entry
> > > for its gateway.  That would be the destination MAC.  The
> > > source MAC would be that of the sending host itself.  Using
> > its
> > > own ARP cache, the gateway would re-write both the source
> and
> > > destination MAC if the destination was, in fact, directly
> > > attached to (or reachable via) another Ethernet interface. 
> > > If
> > > not, and the packet needed to cross some serial WAN link,
> both
> > > MACs would simply be stripped off.  Every L3 device strips
> off
> > > source and dest. MAC at ingress.  Whether or not a new
> source
> > > and dest. MAC is encapsulated around the IP packet depends
> on
> > > whether or not the destination is reachable via another
> > > Ethernet interface.
> > 
> > Or Token Ring, FDDI, LocalTalk. :-)
> > 
> > > 
> > > > If you go across a layer 2 network, all
> > > > the mac address's
> > > > would typically be part of the same broadcast domain and
> not
> > > > need to be changed.
> > > > 
> > > > If you go across a T1 or Frame it will still be mapped to
> or
> > > > have an assigned IP Address
> > > > that constitutes a layer 3 hop and write its mac address
> in
> > > > the frame.
> > 
> > Here's where he went astray. As I mentioned earlier, a serial
> > interface doesn't have a MAC address and the data-link-layer
> > protocols used across serial interfaces don't have MAC
> > addresses in them.
> > 
> > The sentence isn't parsable, (sorry Larry!) but may indicate
> > some additional misunderstanding.  The fact that the next hop
> > has a Layer 3 address isn't of major significance when talking
> > about forwarding traffic and the addresses that end up in the
> > forwarded packet. The IP addresses don't change end-to-end.
> MAC
> > addresses on LANs change, hop by hop. WANs don't have MAC
> > addresses.
> > 
> > Yes, routing protocols exchange next hop info using IP
> > addresses. So, if we're considering Ethernet, at some point
> the
> > source router must have found out the MAC address of the
> > destination router using ARP. The router will put its own MAC
> > address in the source field and the destination (next hop)
> > router's MAC address in the destination field.
> > 
> > In the case of a T1 point-to-point link, a MAC address isn't
> > necessary since it's not a shared medium and there's no need
> to
> > identify which station should receive the frame. There is only
> > one other station!
> > 
> > Now, Frame Relay is shared "in the cloud." The DLCI would help
> > the L2 switches in the cloud forward the frame correctly.
> > Inverse ARP would help the router map a L3 next hop address to
> > a DLCI, if I understand it correctly.
> > 
> > Priscilla
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > However if I am wrong here, Priscilla or Howard or Chuck
> > > > will let me know...:)
> > > > 
> > > > Larry Letterman
> > > > Network Engineer
> > > > Cisco Systems
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Cisco Newbie" 
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:42 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: MAC Address [7:62251]
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > First, thanks for all that responded.  One clarification
> > > > that I need address
> > > > > is the following:
> > > > >
> > > > > If I cross a L3 router and the outgoing interface is
> > > > something other than
> > > > > Ethernet, will the L2 frame show a new MAC address?  In
> > > > other words, if my
> > > > > outgoing interface is say T1 PPP or even a dial-up,
> should
> > > > I be seeing a new
> > > > > MAC address?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it o

Re: specific MIBs on Cat 6509 [7:62370]

2003-02-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaj J. Niemi)
In mail.net.groupstudy.pro, you wrote:

>  I am looking for some snmp OIDs or MIBs that I can incorporate into my 
>  network management that will give me specific port counters - errors, 
>  overall throughput per port and things like that.  I have tried Cisco's
site
>  but cannot seem to find them.  Any ideas?  Thanks.

You'll find what's supported at .
Walk around in ../oid and ../v2 to get a look at the schemas and the oids.




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kismet [7:62376]

2003-02-03 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sitting in a class. It would be very cool if someone answered this before
the class got out!? :-)

Is it really true that Kismet can sniff packets on an 802.11 wireless
network, even if you have the access point set up to require
login/authentication. (assume the hacker doesn't know a login)

>From what I know about access points, the hacker would fail to associate
with the access point, and hence could not see traffic.

Thanks,

Priscilla


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Re: MAC Address [7:62251]

2003-02-03 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
s vermill wrote:
> 
> s vermill wrote:
> > 
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > 
> > > s vermill wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Larry Letterman wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > In most cases you will only re-write the source mac
> > address
> > > > > when traversing
> > > > > across a L3 device. 
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think that's so.  
> > > 
> > > Did you misplace your comment? 
> > 
> > No.  I disagree that a source MAC re-write would be all that
> > takes place when crossing a L3 device.  Host A, sending to an
> > off-subnet Host B, would use its own MAC as the source and the
> > L3 device interface MAC as the destination.  The L3 device
> > strips both at ingress.  If, in fact, the destination is on a
> > directly attached shared medium, the source MAC is re-writen
> to
> > that of the egress interface.  The destination MAC is whatever
> > the L3 device has in the ARP cache for Host B.  Both source
> and
> > destination MACs change when crossing a L3 device.  Doesn't it
> > sound like Larry is saying that the source MAC is all that
> > changes and not the destination MAC?  Or maybe I just took
> that
> > wrong?
> 
> I think that maybe Larry was saying that the only time it would
> be *necessary* to change the source MAC is when traversing a L3
> device.  

That's how I read it. (He was comparing it to a L2 device.) The word "only"
is an evil word that editors hate. :-)

P.

> He isn't necessarily saying that only the source MAC
> would change when crossing one.  Sorry Larry.  I think that was
> a mis-read on my part.
> 
> > 
> > I think his first comment is
> > > correct, but then a following one is strangely worded. See
> > below
> > > 
> > > > A host will have an ARP cache entry
> > > > for its gateway.  That would be the destination MAC.  The
> > > > source MAC would be that of the sending host itself. 
> Using
> > > its
> > > > own ARP cache, the gateway would re-write both the source
> > and
> > > > destination MAC if the destination was, in fact, directly
> > > > attached to (or reachable via) another Ethernet
> interface.
> > > > If
> > > > not, and the packet needed to cross some serial WAN link,
> > both
> > > > MACs would simply be stripped off.  Every L3 device strips
> > off
> > > > source and dest. MAC at ingress.  Whether or not a new
> > source
> > > > and dest. MAC is encapsulated around the IP packet depends
> > on
> > > > whether or not the destination is reachable via another
> > > > Ethernet interface.
> > > 
> > > Or Token Ring, FDDI, LocalTalk. :-)
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > If you go across a layer 2 network, all
> > > > > the mac address's
> > > > > would typically be part of the same broadcast domain and
> > not
> > > > > need to be changed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you go across a T1 or Frame it will still be mapped
> to
> > or
> > > > > have an assigned IP Address
> > > > > that constitutes a layer 3 hop and write its mac address
> > in
> > > > > the frame.
> > > 
> > > Here's where he went astray. As I mentioned earlier, a
> serial
> > > interface doesn't have a MAC address and the data-link-layer
> > > protocols used across serial interfaces don't have MAC
> > > addresses in them.
> > > 
> > > The sentence isn't parsable, (sorry Larry!) but may indicate
> > > some additional misunderstanding.  The fact that the next
> hop
> > > has a Layer 3 address isn't of major significance when
> talking
> > > about forwarding traffic and the addresses that end up in
> the
> > > forwarded packet. The IP addresses don't change end-to-end.
> > MAC
> > > addresses on LANs change, hop by hop. WANs don't have MAC
> > > addresses.
> > > 
> > > Yes, routing protocols exchange next hop info using IP
> > > addresses. So, if we're considering Ethernet, at some point
> > the
> > > source router must have found out the MAC address of the
> > > destination router using ARP. The router will put its own
> MAC
> > > address in the source field and the destination (next hop)
> > > router's MAC address in the destination field.
> > > 
> > > In the case of a T1 point-to-point link, a MAC address isn't
> > > necessary since it's not a shared medium and there's no need
> > to
> > > identify which station should receive the frame. There is
> only
> > > one other station!
> > > 
> > > Now, Frame Relay is shared "in the cloud." The DLCI would
> help
> > > the L2 switches in the cloud forward the frame correctly.
> > > Inverse ARP would help the router map a L3 next hop address
> to
> > > a DLCI, if I understand it correctly.
> > > 
> > > Priscilla
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > However if I am wrong here, Priscilla or Howard or Chuck
> > > > > will let me know...:)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Larry Letterman
> > > > > Network Engineer
> > > > > Cisco Systems
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Cisco Newbie" 
> > > > > To: 
> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:42 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: MAC Address [7:62251]
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > First, thanks for all 

Nat question [7:62379]

2003-02-03 Thread Robert Perez
Hi all,
I have the following config and want to know if there will be a problem
since two route-maps point to the same pool?  If I get a successful FTP
connection and then try the HTTP connection the router drops the packet.
Can a pool only be used by one nat statement?


ip nat pool to-home 208.248.24.37 208.248.24.37 prefix-length 24

ip nat inside source route-map map1 pool to-home overload
ip nat inside source route-map map2 pool to-home overload

access-list 108 permit tcp 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 host 68.46.102.299 eq ftp
access-list 125 permit tcp 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 host 68.46.102.299 eq www

route-map map1 permit 10
match ip address 108
!
route-map map2 permit 10
match ip address 125

 
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|  :|||:   :|||:  |
|  ..:|||:...:|||:..  |
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RE: Cisco IPSec Tunnel Lifetime [7:62374]

2003-02-03 Thread mjans001
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The 

isakmp policy 10 lifetime XXX

lifetime seconds
 Specify how many seconds each security association should exist before
expiring. Use an integer from 120 to 86,400 seconds (one day).
 
Acording to doccd


Martijn


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Hi,

Is it possible to configure the IPSec tunnel never expired on Cisco PIX? A
little bit weird, and we got such interesting request. Thanks.

Leo
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RE: kismet [7:62376]

2003-02-03 Thread s vermill
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> Sitting in a class. It would be very cool if someone answered
> this before the class got out!? :-)
> 
> Is it really true that Kismet can sniff packets on an 802.11
> wireless network, even if you have the access point set up to
> require login/authentication. (assume the hacker doesn't know a
> login)
> 
> From what I know about access points, the hacker would fail to
> associate with the access point, and hence could not see traffic.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Priscilla

If I understand the question, I don't see why a wireless sniffer would need
to associate to an AP.  It's pulling data off the airways similar to a NIC
in promiscuous mode on a hard-wired network.  Unless the data is encrypted,
it's available to any wireless sniffer.  Sort of like a police scanner.  But
I sense there is more to the question...






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RE: Possibly duable with NAT? [7:62373]

2003-02-03 Thread mjans001
See my old post.

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Does not work. Pls state the tcp port you want map per internal ip As in
(off the top of m hat)

ip nat inside source static tcp 10.22.5.4 25  209.10.248.134 25
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.22.5.5 80  209.10.248.134 80

Can also use interface ethernet1 or dialer1 as in

ip nat inside source static tcp 10.22.5.4 25  interface dialer1
25

Ofcourse introduced after somewhere 11.2???

Martijn


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Onderwerp: NAT QUESTION [7:62313]


Please can someone tell me if multiple Private Static IPs can be NAT'ed
to one Public IP address. when i try to did that it gave me an error "

Router(config)#ip nat inside source static 10.22.5.5 209.10.248.x %
209.10.248.x already mapped (10.22.5.4 -> 209.10.248.x)

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This is what i am trying to acheive.

ip nat inside source static 10.22.5.4 209.10.248.134
ip nat inside source static 10.22.5.5 209.10.248.134 (want to add this
entry)

Thanks in Advance!
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I would like to know if is possible to do the following:

I have a router that is currently doing NAT.  I have a client who is
trying to access an inside routable IP address of x.x.x.80 on a specific
port.  I need to be able to redirect the clients request to a different
IP that sits behind a firewall on my LAN.  Is this possible via NAT?

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PIX and Trunk [7:62383]

2003-02-03 Thread Paulo Roque
Hi all,

Does PIX support VLAN trunk?

Paulo


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Re: PIX and Trunk [7:62383]

2003-02-03 Thread Sam Sneed
No, PIX doesn't support subinterfaces or secondary interfaces either.
Subinterfaces are required for trunking on routers.
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>
> Does PIX support VLAN trunk?
>
> Paulo
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Re: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62367]

2003-02-03 Thread Bob Sinclair
I found links below helpful in considering forms of self-employment.

The Contract Employee's Handbook
http://www.cehandbook.com/


P.A.C.E. - Professional Association of Contract Employees,
http://www.pacepros.com/


-Bob Sinclair
CCIE #10427, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Networking For Future, Inc.
www.nffinc.com
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To: 
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Subject: Re: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62367]


> The 1099 is an easy way to go but you lose out on a lot of tax breaks. I'm
a
> 1099 now and am kicking myself in the ass for not setting up as small
> business.
> I'm working in NYC now. $6 just to take the bridge into NYC from jersey
and
> $25 day parking. Never mind 40 minutes each way traffic to commute 10
miles.
> If you're set up as a small business you have more flexiblity in writing
off
> expenses like these.
>
> ""Chuck Church""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Yes.  Money will depend on your skill level with both Cisco and other
> > products as well, such as Unix, NW, MS, etc.  It could be $30/hour,
could
> be
> > $100.  Location is probably almost as important.  NYC pays pretty well,
> but
> > it cost's $50 to park a car for 4 hours!  The thing about consulting
like
> > this is you need be a salesperson at times.  Personally, I hate
> salespeople,
> > and therefore don't make a good one myself.  There's also more
> > responsibility, as far as finding your own insurance, paying taxes, etc.
> If
> > you can find a headhunter who will place you as a 1099 employee, that's
> > usually pretty good, but I haven't heard from my headhunter in months
> > :(I was on an indefinite project for a year, but that ended when
they
> > outsourced.  Since then it's all been small projects, mostly complicated
> > installs involving layer 3 switching.  It's a tough market, and getting
a
> > name for yourself can be difficult.  Personally, I'm looking for a full
> time
> > position now.
> >
> > Chuck Church
> > CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jay Greenberg"
> > To: ;
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM
> > Subject: CCIE Self-Employment
> >
> >
> > > Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves?  What's the money
> > > like, what sort of companies do you work for?  Do you do short-term or
> > > long term contracts?  Hourly work?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> > > .




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Re: Cisco VLAN Help-Group Study [7:62293]

2003-02-03 Thread Karen E Young
Emile, 

Since a trunk link carries multiple VLANs, each packet needs to be tagged
with the VLAN it originates from. You need to tell the switch which form of
encapsulation you're using so that it can tag the packets before sending
them to the router over the trunk link. Also, when the router sends the
packets back to the switch it will tag them with their destination VLAN so
that the switch knows which VLAN they should go to. Since both ends of the
link need to understand which form of encapsulation is being used, both ends
need to be configured with that info.

The native VLAN of a trunk port is the VLAN that it reverts to when trunking
goes down. Its usually a good idea to set this to whatever VLAN you need to
use to get to the switch remotely if that happens (generally the management
VLAN). Otherwise you have to hook up to the console port to troubleshoot the
switch. Basically, that that means you should be able to connect to the
switch's IP address via telnet without having to go through a router since
the trunk link can't pass traffic from any other VLAN except the native one
if trunking is down.

One last thing, its not a good idea to enable Portfast on any port that you
KNOW connects to a router, another switch, or a hub. Enable it only on a
port that connects to an end node. Portfast bypasses the usual spanning tree
stuff to speed up the initial connection. Normally, any link to a router,
switch, or hub will be up all the time so spanning tree isn't a problem.
Portfast is designed to overcome the problem that computers have with
connecting when the port is blocked due to spanning tree going through its
paces.

I hope that this helps. Let me know if there's anything else I can help with.

Karen

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On 2/3/2003 at 12:04 AM Emile Harding wrote:

>Ok Karen,Let me make sure I understand you correctly.thank you for your
>help 
>in advanced
>
>This config is what I have on the switch,I have no VLAN attached to it.
>I understand all your point except your second one.I thought ISL was 
>programmed on the router end and not in the switch.I do have trunking 
>enabled on the switch.Could you please correct any configs I may have in
>the 
>switch and the router and let me know what they are
>
>I am assuming the following command lets me know I am using VLAN 3.correct
>
>switchport trunk native 3
>
>
>interface FastEthernet0/16
>>switchport mode trunk
>>spanning-tree portfast
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>>
>>Here's what I see right off hand...
>>
>>1) You aren't trunking. The switch isn't set up for it.
>>
>>Pick a port to connect the switch to the router with and configure it to 
>>trunk. Make sure that it isn't set up with a VLAN as this can interfer 
>>witht eh trunking.
>>Example, if you want FE0/1 to be your trunk and its native VLAN to be
>VLAN 
>>3:
>>
>>interface FastEthernet0/1
>>  switchport trunk encapsulation isl
>>  switchport mode trunk
>>  switchport trunk native 3
>>
>>this set ts the default (non-trunking) vlan of the port to VLAN 3, sets
>the 
>>trunking encfapsulation to ISL, and tells the port to act as a trunk with 
>>the configured encapsulation.
>>
>>2) You're set up up to run each VLAN into the router via separate links. 
>>Kind of negates the idea of using trunking doesn't it? See #1
>>3) Your switch's IP address is on one of your production VLANs. Not a
>good 
>>idea since high traffic can swamp out control and management traffic 
>>between the various switches and the router.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> >I am having a problem getting two VLANS to work.Help, I can't ping
>> >I am using ISL as my trunking protocol.As far as I know you have to 
>>enable
>> >trunking on the switch and use one of the trunking protocols on the
>> >router(which I choose ISL)..Please help me and if I have any configs
>> >wrong,please let me know.
>> >
>> >I have a Cisco Catalyst 2900 XL Switch and a Cisco 2600 router
>> >with two
>> >fastethernet ports.
>> >
>> >I have the configs for the router and the switch below.
>> >I have spanning-tree enabled and I am using VTP i

RE: kismet [7:62376]

2003-02-03 Thread Jim Brown
A completely passive attack can capture data and derive a WEP key
without an association. This is the real issue with WEP encryption and
wireless networks.  A wireless network card and AirSnort or Ethereal
will get you the same result.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: kismet [7:62376]


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> Sitting in a class. It would be very cool if someone answered
> this before the class got out!? :-)
> 
> Is it really true that Kismet can sniff packets on an 802.11
> wireless network, even if you have the access point set up to
> require login/authentication. (assume the hacker doesn't know a
> login)
> 
> From what I know about access points, the hacker would fail to
> associate with the access point, and hence could not see traffic.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Priscilla

If I understand the question, I don't see why a wireless sniffer would
need
to associate to an AP.  It's pulling data off the airways similar to a
NIC
in promiscuous mode on a hard-wired network.  Unless the data is
encrypted,
it's available to any wireless sniffer.  Sort of like a police scanner.
But
I sense there is more to the question...




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RE: kismet [7:62376]

2003-02-03 Thread s vermill
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> Sitting in a class. It would be very cool if someone answered
> this before the class got out!? :-)
> 
> Is it really true that Kismet can sniff packets on an 802.11
> wireless network, even if you have the access point set up to
> require login/authentication. (assume the hacker doesn't know a
> login)
> 
> From what I know about access points, the hacker would fail to
> associate with the access point, and hence could not see traffic.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Priscilla

I got called away just as I was about to send you this.  Sorry for the
delay...

http://www.linuxsecurity.com/feature_stories/wireless-kismet.html




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RE: kismet [7:62376]

2003-02-03 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
s vermill wrote:
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > 
> > Sitting in a class. It would be very cool if someone answered
> > this before the class got out!? :-)
> > 
> > Is it really true that Kismet can sniff packets on an 802.11
> > wireless network, even if you have the access point set up to
> > require login/authentication. (assume the hacker doesn't know
> a
> > login)
> > 
> > From what I know about access points, the hacker would fail to
> > associate with the access point, and hence could not see
> traffic.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Priscilla
> 
> If I understand the question, I don't see why a wireless
> sniffer would need to associate to an AP.  It's pulling data
> off the airways similar to a NIC in promiscuous mode on a
> hard-wired network.  Unless the data is encrypted, it's
> available to any wireless sniffer.  Sort of like a police
> scanner.  But I sense there is more to the question...
> 
> 
> 
> 




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Re: kismet [7:62376]

2003-02-03 Thread Vince Hoang
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 08:41:44PM +, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> Is it really true that Kismet can sniff packets on an 802.11
> wireless network, even if you have the access point set up to
> require login/authentication.

It is sort of like using tcpdump on a hub. In addition, kismet
also makes WEP less useful:

  http://www.kismetwireless.net/documentation.shtml

  "Kismet supports decrypting WEP as packets are captured.
  This enables Kismet to extract clients, IP ranges, and
  alert conditions out of WEP-enabled traffic."

-Vince




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RE: kismet [7:62376]

2003-02-03 Thread s vermill
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> s vermill wrote:
> > 
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > 
> > > Sitting in a class. It would be very cool if someone
> answered
> > > this before the class got out!? :-)
> > > 
> > > Is it really true that Kismet can sniff packets on an 802.11
> > > wireless network, even if you have the access point set up
> to
> > > require login/authentication. (assume the hacker doesn't
> know
> > a
> > > login)
> > > 
> > > From what I know about access points, the hacker would fail
> to
> > > associate with the access point, and hence could not see
> > traffic.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Priscilla
> > 
> > If I understand the question, I don't see why a wireless
> > sniffer would need to associate to an AP.  It's pulling data
> > off the airways similar to a NIC in promiscuous mode on a
> > hard-wired network.  Unless the data is encrypted, it's
> > available to any wireless sniffer.  Sort of like a police
> > scanner.  But I sense there is more to the question...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

Cat got your tongue?


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RE: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62394]

2003-02-03 Thread Mike Schlenger
Really? WHERE DO I SIGN?? :)

Mike
Chicagoland CCIE #7079

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:12 PM
To: steve r; Jay Greenberg; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE Self-Employment


Rate depends on who is paying and how much do they have? :-)

In chicago area $125/Hr is considered normal with 1 way travel time. If you
got a fortune 500 client, you can easily bump it up to $175/Hr. and they
will not argue about it.

Sam


> CCIE self employed,
> well if you find another CCIE to partner with you can get silver partner
> status, (and some other requirements too)
> 
> If you are in the biz you should know...pix...vpn and some other stuff the
> hourly work is great but it depends on the clients locations...and the
> billing rate..
> Good luck in this market it may be better then being out of work like my
> friend is (and he is a CCIE too)
> Bill at what you can get $100 to $200 an hour or more
> or less if its cash..
> 
> Stephen
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jay Greenberg" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM
> Subject: CCIE Self-Employment
> 
> 
> > Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves?  What's the money
> > like, what sort of companies do you work for?  Do you do short-term or
> > long term contracts?  Hourly work?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Jason Greenberg, CCIE #11021
> > 
> > .
> .
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Blown Away By The New CCIE Written [7:62396]

2003-02-03 Thread Panella Todd
Has anyone taken the new format of the written test?  I just got my head
handed to me.  Needed a 58 to pass and got a 47.  I definitely studied the
wrong material.  I thought the test would emphasize OSPF, BGP, WAN and the
basic Routing Protocol interaction.  Boy was I wrong.  75% of the test was
Multicast, IPX, Token Ring and QoS.  I studied QoS pretty well, but slacked
a bit on Multicast and totally wrote off Token Ring or IPX.  Ooops$300
down the drain.  Anyone else have a similiar experience?  As far as what I
used, I thought the "official CCIE R&S Exam Cert. Guide" would be enough. 
Uhh, that's a big NO!  Bruno and clan don't even cover half of what was on
this test.  Anyone else recommend something different for next time?  Should
I just say No to all books and print out all the links on the Exam blueprint
page?  I think that's what I'm going to do this time, oh, that and
concentrate on useless protocols.


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RE: The New CCIE Written [7:61507]

2003-02-03 Thread Todd Panella
Raj,

What was that link again?  You might need to send it to my email as it might
be blocked by the moderators.  Send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

Todd


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Time Between CCNP Tests [7:62398]

2003-02-03 Thread Jarred Nicholls
I was wondering how long I have between each CCNP test.  I heard 2 years,
but does that mean I have two years for example, between the routing and
switching, then when I take the switching, I have another 2 years between
either the remote access or support? or is it 2 years to get them all? 
Thanks for the help :-)

Jarred


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Re: MAC Address [7:62251]

2003-02-03 Thread Larry Letterman
Sorry for the confusion. My indication to the original post
was meant to say that the source mac address will change
from hop to hop...and the destination mac address, the
source and dest. ip address's should remain the
same. As Scott says,the routers may change more than the mac
address's when the packet is re-wrote, but I didn't think
that level of detail was asked in the question

My answer about wan issues was incorrect as Priscilla
pointed out...which obviously points out my lack of day to
day knowledge on the wan side.

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


- Original Message -
From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: MAC Address [7:62251]


> s vermill wrote:
> >
> > s vermill wrote:
> > >
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > s vermill wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Larry Letterman wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In most cases you will only re-write the source
mac
> > > address
> > > > > > when traversing
> > > > > > across a L3 device.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think that's so.
> > > >
> > > > Did you misplace your comment?
> > >
> > > No.  I disagree that a source MAC re-write would be
all that
> > > takes place when crossing a L3 device.  Host A,
sending to an
> > > off-subnet Host B, would use its own MAC as the source
and the
> > > L3 device interface MAC as the destination.  The L3
device
> > > strips both at ingress.  If, in fact, the destination
is on a
> > > directly attached shared medium, the source MAC is
re-writen
> > to
> > > that of the egress interface.  The destination MAC is
whatever
> > > the L3 device has in the ARP cache for Host B.  Both
source
> > and
> > > destination MACs change when crossing a L3 device.
Doesn't it
> > > sound like Larry is saying that the source MAC is all
that
> > > changes and not the destination MAC?  Or maybe I just
took
> > that
> > > wrong?
> >
> > I think that maybe Larry was saying that the only time
it would
> > be *necessary* to change the source MAC is when
traversing a L3
> > device.
>
> That's how I read it. (He was comparing it to a L2
device.) The word "only"
> is an evil word that editors hate. :-)
>
> P.
>
> > He isn't necessarily saying that only the source MAC
> > would change when crossing one.  Sorry Larry.  I think
that was
> > a mis-read on my part.
> >
> > >
> > > I think his first comment is
> > > > correct, but then a following one is strangely
worded. See
> > > below
> > > >
> > > > > A host will have an ARP cache entry
> > > > > for its gateway.  That would be the destination
MAC.  The
> > > > > source MAC would be that of the sending host
itself.
> > Using
> > > > its
> > > > > own ARP cache, the gateway would re-write both the
source
> > > and
> > > > > destination MAC if the destination was, in fact,
directly
> > > > > attached to (or reachable via) another Ethernet
> > interface.
> > > > > If
> > > > > not, and the packet needed to cross some serial
WAN link,
> > > both
> > > > > MACs would simply be stripped off.  Every L3
device strips
> > > off
> > > > > source and dest. MAC at ingress.  Whether or not a
new
> > > source
> > > > > and dest. MAC is encapsulated around the IP packet
depends
> > > on
> > > > > whether or not the destination is reachable via
another
> > > > > Ethernet interface.
> > > >
> > > > Or Token Ring, FDDI, LocalTalk. :-)
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you go across a layer 2 network, all
> > > > > > the mac address's
> > > > > > would typically be part of the same broadcast
domain and
> > > not
> > > > > > need to be changed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you go across a T1 or Frame it will still be
mapped
> > to
> > > or
> > > > > > have an assigned IP Address
> > > > > > that constitutes a layer 3 hop and write its mac
address
> > > in
> > > > > > the frame.
> > > >
> > > > Here's where he went astray. As I mentioned earlier,
a
> > serial
> > > > interface doesn't have a MAC address and the
data-link-layer
> > > > protocols used across serial interfaces don't have
MAC
> > > > addresses in them.
> > > >
> > > > The sentence isn't parsable, (sorry Larry!) but may
indicate
> > > > some additional misunderstanding.  The fact that the
next
> > hop
> > > > has a Layer 3 address isn't of major significance
when
> > talking
> > > > about forwarding traffic and the addresses that end
up in
> > the
> > > > forwarded packet. The IP addresses don't change
end-to-end.
> > > MAC
> > > > addresses on LANs change, hop by hop. WANs don't
have MAC
> > > > addresses.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, routing protocols exchange next hop info using
IP
> > > > addresses. So, if we're considering Ethernet, at
some point
> > > the
> > > > source router must have found out the MAC address of
the
> > > > destination router using ARP. The router will put
its own
> > MAC
> > > > address in the source field and the destination
(next hop)
> > > > router's MAC address in the destination field.
> > > >
> > > > In the case of a T1 point-to-point link, a MAC
addre

Re: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62394]

2003-02-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike , he must be dreaming about deerfield...

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Schlenger" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62394]


> Really? WHERE DO I SIGN?? :)
>
> Mike
> Chicagoland CCIE #7079
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Munzani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:12 PM
> To: steve r; Jay Greenberg; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE Self-Employment
>
>
> Rate depends on who is paying and how much do they have? :-)
>
> In chicago area $125/Hr is considered normal with 1 way travel time. If
you
> got a fortune 500 client, you can easily bump it up to $175/Hr. and they
> will not argue about it.
>
> Sam
>
>
> > CCIE self employed,
> > well if you find another CCIE to partner with you can get silver partner
> > status, (and some other requirements too)
> >
> > If you are in the biz you should know...pix...vpn and some other stuff
the
> > hourly work is great but it depends on the clients locations...and the
> > billing rate..
> > Good luck in this market it may be better then being out of work like my
> > friend is (and he is a CCIE too)
> > Bill at what you can get $100 to $200 an hour or more
> > or less if its cash..
> >
> > Stephen
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jay Greenberg"
> > To: ;
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM
> > Subject: CCIE Self-Employment
> >
> >
> > > Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves?  What's the money
> > > like, what sort of companies do you work for?  Do you do short-term or
> > > long term contracts?  Hourly work?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason Greenberg, CCIE #11021
> > >
> > > .
> > .
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Pix Enable Password recovery [7:62401]

2003-02-03 Thread John Brandis
Just purchased a pix 515, however the muppet how sold it to me cant remember
the enable password. Can any one remember the steps to recover ???
 
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VOIP Books and Resources [7:62403]

2003-02-03 Thread Lupi, Guy
Can anyone recommend a good vendor independent book on VOIP, something that
goes into detail on the different protocols, codecs, so on and so forth?  I
am looking for something that takes you through VOIP in detail, not just
basic stuff.  Thanks.

Guy H. Lupi




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Re: GRE Tunnel [7:62235]

2003-02-03 Thread Bruno Fernandes
Hi again,

I already tried to give the command in the tunnel interface but the
bridge-group command simply isn't there, I am doing this in 2600 router,
with an enterprise image.

Any comments

Thanks in advance,
Bruno Fernandes

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> > Is it possible to a Tunnel Interface to belong to a Bridge-Group ?
> 
> 
> yes
> 
> 
> > If yes, how ?
> 
> same as with any other interface - enter the appropriate bridge-group 
> command
> 
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bruno




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Re: Pix Enable Password recovery [7:62401]

2003-02-03 Thread Bruno Fernandes
You will need to boot into monitor mode then tftp the file that you can
get from the TAC and clear de password


EX:


monitor> interface 0
0: i8255X @ PCI(bus:0 dev:13 irq:10)
1: i8255X @ PCI(bus:0 dev:14 irq:7 )
 
Using 0: i82559 @ PCI(bus:0 dev:13 irq:10), MAC: 0050.54ff.82b9
monitor> address 10.21.1.99
address 10.21.1.99
monitor> server 172.18.125.3
server 172.18.125.3
monitor> file np52.bin
file np52.bin
monitor> gateway 10.21.1.1
gateway 10.21.1.1
monitor> ping 172.18.125.3
Sending 5, 100-byte 0xf8d3 ICMP Echoes to 172.18.125.3, timeout is 4
seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5)
monitor> tftp
tftp [EMAIL PROTECTED] via
10.21.1.1...
Received 73728 bytes
 
Cisco Secure PIX Firewall password tool (3.0) #0: Tue Aug 22 23:22:19
PDT 2000
Flash=i28F640J5 @ 0x300
BIOS Flash=AT29C257 @ 0xd8000
 
Do you wish to erase the passwords? [yn] y
Passwords have been erased.
 
Rebooting

Regards
BF

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RE: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62394]

2003-02-03 Thread supernet
Not sure about Chicago area, but in my area, rate is generally above
$150/hr. And guess what, I'm in Silicon Valley.

To configure a router or switch is simple. Worst case, pick up the phone
and call TAC will solve most configuration problems. Customers are
looking for someone that can run the show. CCIE is not enough, you also
need to know how to do project management and very importantly, how to
BS. 

This is based on several interviews I had during the past couple of
weeks.

Yoshi

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Really? WHERE DO I SIGN?? :)

Mike
Chicagoland CCIE #7079

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To: steve r; Jay Greenberg; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE Self-Employment


Rate depends on who is paying and how much do they have? :-)

In chicago area $125/Hr is considered normal with 1 way travel time. If
you
got a fortune 500 client, you can easily bump it up to $175/Hr. and they
will not argue about it.

Sam


> CCIE self employed,
> well if you find another CCIE to partner with you can get silver
partner
> status, (and some other requirements too)
> 
> If you are in the biz you should know...pix...vpn and some other stuff
the
> hourly work is great but it depends on the clients locations...and the
> billing rate..
> Good luck in this market it may be better then being out of work like
my
> friend is (and he is a CCIE too)
> Bill at what you can get $100 to $200 an hour or more
> or less if its cash..
> 
> Stephen
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jay Greenberg" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM
> Subject: CCIE Self-Employment
> 
> 
> > Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves?  What's the money
> > like, what sort of companies do you work for?  Do you do short-term
or
> > long term contracts?  Hourly work?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Jason Greenberg, CCIE #11021
> > 
> > .
> .
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Re: VOIP Books and Resources [7:62403]

2003-02-03 Thread dre
"Lupi, Guy""  wrote in message ...
> Can anyone recommend a good vendor independent book on VOIP,
> something that goes into detail on the different protocols, codecs,
> so on and so forth?  I am looking for something that takes you
> through VOIP in detail, not just basic stuff.  Thanks.

Voice-over-IP isn't really a technology, it's more of a solution
that has individual technologies surrounding it.  VoIP is more of
a term, primarily in use by Cisco, and possibly Lucent, Sprint, et al,
to describe nothing other than "Voice can be used over TCP/IP
networks, including the Internet".  It's a marketing term.

So you might not be looking for "vendor-specific" VoIP, but I
recommend that you do look for "technology-specific" VoIP.

Another popular term is "IP Telephony" (versus traditional telephony,
or TDM-only telephony), which is comparable to "VoIP".

If you were to ask any member or follower of the Internet Engineering
Task Force (The IETF organization, whose members document the
ever-evolving Internet), they would tell you that two specific
technologies are in the process of standardization and implementation:
RTP/RTSP (Real-Time [Streaming] Protocol) and SIP (Session
Initiation Protocol).  SIP is the bulk of where IP Telephony, or
VoIP, is currently heading.  Other VoIP products and solutions are
available, but they are likely to be not as robust or complete as
SIP, and also are likely to go away in 5-10 years in favor of SIP
technology.

This is the best website I've seen on SIP technology that isn't
quite as dry as reading RFC's:  http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~hgs/sip/

They make some book recommendations here:
http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~hgs/sip/papers.html

The website also includes some details on other technologies in
the VoIP arena (such as H.323) and makes direct comparisons to SIP
as well as states how they can work together.  H.323 also interfaces
to TCP/IP with RTP/RTSP (needs to have glue somewhere), so it does
all go back to the IETF and vendor implementations fall in suit.

Clearly, SIP, MGCP, and H.323 will all still rely on SS7 to access
the PSTN (Public Switched Telephone Network), but SIP (et al) can
also act as standalone networks.  SS7 and the PSTN are likely to
stay the way they are for quite some time, but as an end-user, your
voice equipment and technology can be optimized (cheaper, better,
faster, more scalable) today.

-dre




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Re: 3640 and 2 NM-2FE-2W? [7:62346]

2003-02-03 Thread John Murphy
Ben,

According to CCO you need 12.0(7)XK, 12.1(1)T, 12.2, or 12.2T.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/107/nm-fe2w.shtml

Best Regards,

John

- Original Message -
From: "Ben Hockenhull" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:15 AM
Subject: 3640 and 2 NM-2FE-2W? [7:62346]


> I've got a 3640 running 12.2.x software and currently have one NM-2FE-2W
> installed, with 2 WICs in it.  I tried to install another NM-2FE-2W and
> use the WIC slots in that NM as well, but none of the interfaces show up.
>
> I can't find any documentation one way or another about support for
> multiple NM2-FE-2Ws in a 3640.  Anyone know if this is supported?
>
> I'm not concerned about overutilizing the backplane with 4 FE interfaces,
> as I won't use all 4.
>
> Ben
>
> --
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RE: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62394]

2003-02-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to me ccie is an impressive cert because it is hard to obtain, but so what?
it just means that you know how to configure some routers, switches and
know protocols and etc, to me what is important is how you can apply your
knowledge in a real work situation, how good are you in designing a
network, how good are you in troubleshooting when problems occur, how soon
can you fulfill a request when a project comes thru and you need to be fast
and efficient in fulfilling that request, can you think in an overall
scenario of how to design and build a redundent and functional network for
a company, the core engineers in my company, some have ccies and some dont,
the ones that doesnt have them can probably run circles around some ccies
that are out there in the industry
i am also going after my certs but i am only doing it because of pressure
from upper management and it will make my resume look better

this is just my 2 cents :)



   

 
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Not sure about Chicago area, but in my area, rate is generally above
$150/hr. And guess what, I'm in Silicon Valley.

To configure a router or switch is simple. Worst case, pick up the phone
and call TAC will solve most configuration problems. Customers are
looking for someone that can run the show. CCIE is not enough, you also
need to know how to do project management and very importantly, how to
BS.

This is based on several interviews I had during the past couple of
weeks.

Yoshi

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Mike Schlenger
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:44 PM
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Subject: RE: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62394]

Really? WHERE DO I SIGN?? :)

Mike
Chicagoland CCIE #7079

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:12 PM
To: steve r; Jay Greenberg; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE Self-Employment


Rate depends on who is paying and how much do they have? :-)

In chicago area $125/Hr is considered normal with 1 way travel time. If
you
got a fortune 500 client, you can easily bump it up to $175/Hr. and they
will not argue about it.

Sam


> CCIE self employed,
> well if you find another CCIE to partner with you can get silver
partner
> status, (and some other requirements too)
>
> If you are in the biz you should know...pix...vpn and some other stuff
the
> hourly work is great but it depends on the clients locations...and the
> billing rate..
> Good luck in this market it may be better then being out of work like
my
> friend is (and he is a CCIE too)
> Bill at what you can get $100 to $200 an hour or more
> or less if its cash..
>
> Stephen
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jay Greenberg"
> To: ;
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM
> Subject: CCIE Self-Employment
>
>
> > Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves?  What's the money
> > like, what sort of companies do you work for?  Do you do short-term
or
> > long term contracts?  Hourly work?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Jason Greenberg, CCIE #11021
> >
> > .
> .
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RE: VOIP Books and Resources [7:62403]

2003-02-03 Thread John Wang
Because I'm creating a VoIP course for a community college, I have been
going through several books (mostly from Cisco Press).  One book that really
stood out was "Carrier Grade Voice Over IP" by Daniel Collins, published by
McGraw-Hill.  It is not the most technical (read the specs or RFCs if you
can't fall asleep at night), and the graphics look a bit cheesy.  I like it
because the author digs into all technical areas of VoIP and actually makes
me want to keep on reading.

VoIP crosses over both telco & networking fields.  It is hard to encounter
good writers who knows both fields well.  If I needed to pick a textbook for
my class, this would be it.


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Frame Relay...Serial Int Flapping [7:62411]

2003-02-03 Thread Dain Deutschman
Hi all,

I have a Frame Relay circuit to an adtran ts120 and then v.35 to a
cisco1721. My serial interface keeps flapping

01:11:40: Serial0: attempting to restart
01:11:40: PowerQUICC(0/0): DCD is up.

Line protocol changes to up...then down...and stays down. But debug output
shows the above.

Any ideas?

interface Serial0
 bandwidth 512
 ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x
 encapsulation frame-relay IETF
 frame-relay map ip x.x.x.x 114 IETF
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
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Re: kismet [7:62376]

2003-02-03 Thread d tran
I am not a wireless expert; however, I've setup a few network to know that
sniffer such as airsnort and Kismet are essentially "useless" if one designs 
the network with "PEAP" and "EAP-TTLS".  Furthermore, if you implement
IPSec (AES) over "PEAP" or "EAP-TTLS", then that will make kismet useless.
I welcome anyone to "hack" into my home wireless network because that is 
what I have.
David
 Vince Hoang  wrote:On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 08:41:44PM +, Priscilla
Oppenheimer wrote:
> Is it really true that Kismet can sniff packets on an 802.11
> wireless network, even if you have the access point set up to
> require login/authentication.

It is sort of like using tcpdump on a hub. In addition, kismet
also makes WEP less useful:

http://www.kismetwireless.net/documentation.shtml

"Kismet supports decrypting WEP as packets are captured.
This enables Kismet to extract clients, IP ranges, and
alert conditions out of WEP-enabled traffic."

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Re: Pix Enable Password recovery [7:62401]

2003-02-03 Thread d tran
Depend on the version of Pix OS on the firewall, you need an TFTP server 
so that you can download the npxx.bin to the pix in "monitor" mode from the
TFTP server to erase the password on the pix.  Very simple.  Go to 
www.cisco.com and search for "password recovery"
Good luck.
 John Brandis  wrote:Just purchased a pix 515, however the muppet how sold
it to me cant remember
the enable password. Can any one remember the steps to recover ???

Thanks all.




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RE: Time Between CCNP Tests [7:62398]

2003-02-03 Thread Joshua Barnes
You have 3 years from the time of completion of the last test.  Unless
it's two yearsGod I hope it's not two years.

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Subject: Time Between CCNP Tests [7:62398]

I was wondering how long I have between each CCNP test.  I heard 2
years,
but does that mean I have two years for example, between the routing and
switching, then when I take the switching, I have another 2 years
between
either the remote access or support? or is it 2 years to get them all? 
Thanks for the help :-)

Jarred




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Re: GRE Tunnel [7:62235]

2003-02-03 Thread The Long and Winding Road
--
TANSTAAFL
"there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"

""Bruno Fernandes""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi again,
>
> I already tried to give the command in the tunnel interface but the
> bridge-group command simply isn't there, I am doing this in 2600 router,
> with an enterprise image.
>
> Any comments


OK, let's figure out why I'm an idiot on this one. ( shut up, Ken, Nigel,
Phil, and CN )

Oh never mind - I've been playing with IPX bridging here - a complete waste
of time since there is no IPX on the Lab any longer. Suffice it to say I was
wrong.

sorry.




>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bruno Fernandes
>
> ""The Long and Winding Road""  wrote
> in message news:...
> > ""Bruno Fernandes""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Good morning !!!
> > >
> > > Is it possible to a Tunnel Interface to belong to a Bridge-Group ?
> >
> >
> > yes
> >
> >
> > > If yes, how ?
> >
> > same as with any other interface - enter the appropriate bridge-group
> > command
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Bruno




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Cisco Doc CD Errors [7:62417]

2003-02-03 Thread The Long and Winding Road
Some of you probably know this already, but there appear to be problems with
the June 2002 Documentation CD.

I have had the Doc CD in various flavors running on this poor computer for
many months now. When I bought my 3550 switch, I got a June 2002 Doc CD,
newer than what I had. So I popped it in, turned it on, and got the
"expired" message.   I could work my way around this problem, but for the
documentation for any IOS version 12.1 or earlier, I was sent to the Cisco
public web site, not to the doc CD. 12.2 used the CD. Various network
management and switch and CAT OS documentation versions all used the doc CD.
but not IOS 12.0 or 11.3 or 12.1, all of which pointed me out to the
internet.

Several uninstall-reinstalls later I gave up, opened a TAC case, and was
provided a new version of a vdk20.lic file, which ended the "expired"
problem.

However, the problem remains with certain IOS version pointing me to Cisco's
web site, not to the doc CD.

I've asked TAC to refer this to the doc CD group - probably a failure to
change the url references when converting the web site to the CD.

Just an FYI

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VPN Management and Reporting for Cisco Site-to-site VPN [7:62418]

2003-02-03 Thread Thomas N.
Hi All,

I am deploying Site-to-site VPN using Cisco IOS routers.  I am wondering
what software package offering the management, connectivity monitoring of
tunnels, and content reporting available?  How much it costs?  Thanks!

Thomas




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EIGRP vs. OSPF [7:62419]

2003-02-03 Thread Thomas N.
Hi All,

I have been using EIGRP for our routing protocol for the last couple years,
which is prettly great.  The controversal of selecting the routing protocol
came up again recently.  I would like to have your opinion on EIGRP vs.
OSPF, which one is refered?  What's the weakness and advantage?  Thanks!

Thomas




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RE: GRE Tunnel [7:62235]

2003-02-03 Thread Juan Blanco
Correct me if I am wrong but according to the CCIE Blue Print IPX is still
on the lab, It is in the
section of Desktop Protocols
IPX (NLSP, IPX-RIP/SAP,IPX-EIGRP, SPX, NCP,IPXWAN,IPX Addressing, GNS)

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""Bruno Fernandes""  wrote in message
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> Hi again,
>
> I already tried to give the command in the tunnel interface but the
> bridge-group command simply isn't there, I am doing this in 2600 router,
> with an enterprise image.
>
> Any comments


OK, let's figure out why I'm an idiot on this one. ( shut up, Ken, Nigel,
Phil, and CN )

Oh never mind - I've been playing with IPX bridging here - a complete waste
of time since there is no IPX on the Lab any longer. Suffice it to say I was
wrong.

sorry.




>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bruno Fernandes
>
> ""The Long and Winding Road""  wrote
> in message news:...
> > ""Bruno Fernandes""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Good morning !!!
> > >
> > > Is it possible to a Tunnel Interface to belong to a Bridge-Group ?
> >
> >
> > yes
> >
> >
> > > If yes, how ?
> >
> > same as with any other interface - enter the appropriate bridge-group
> > command
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Bruno




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Re: GRE Tunnel [7:62235]

2003-02-03 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""Juan Blanco""  wrote in message
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> Correct me if I am wrong but according to the CCIE Blue Print IPX is still
> on the lab, It is in the
> section of Desktop Protocols
> IPX (NLSP, IPX-RIP/SAP,IPX-EIGRP, SPX, NCP,IPXWAN,IPX Addressing, GNS)


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>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> The Long and Winding Road
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: GRE Tunnel [7:62235]
>
>
> --
> TANSTAAFL
> "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"
>
> ""Bruno Fernandes""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi again,
> >
> > I already tried to give the command in the tunnel interface but the
> > bridge-group command simply isn't there, I am doing this in 2600 router,
> > with an enterprise image.
> >
> > Any comments
>
>
> OK, let's figure out why I'm an idiot on this one. ( shut up, Ken, Nigel,
> Phil, and CN )
>
> Oh never mind - I've been playing with IPX bridging here - a complete
waste
> of time since there is no IPX on the Lab any longer. Suffice it to say I
was
> wrong.
>
> sorry.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Bruno Fernandes
> >
> > ""The Long and Winding Road""  wrote
> > in message news:...
> > > ""Bruno Fernandes""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Good morning !!!
> > > >
> > > > Is it possible to a Tunnel Interface to belong to a Bridge-Group ?
> > >
> > >
> > > yes
> > >
> > >
> > > > If yes, how ?
> > >
> > > same as with any other interface - enter the appropriate bridge-group
> > > command
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bruno




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Re: Route Summarization [7:62347]

2003-02-03 Thread Kirankumar Patel
Steve

The missing one if advertised with smaller block will take effect.

Rgds,

Kiran

>From: "Steven Aiello" 
>Reply-To: "Steven Aiello" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Route Summarization [7:62347]
>Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:15:20 GMT
>
>Hello All,
>
> I have a question about route summarization.  I was reading over the
>material from Cisco on the matter, I was wondering; or actually
>assuming.  If you want to have route summarization in place to you need
>continuos network numbers?  I know that the docs. said you would send a
>network address upstream that would reflect the bit that are common to
>all networks thus decreasing the size of the routing tables which is
>great.  But what if someone else owned a network block on the net that
>was randomly missing from your group?  Again, I can only assume that you
>must have all continuous networks.  Is this correct, or am I missing
>something?
>
>Thank you all,
>Steven
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ISDN Dialer Watch on 4500 [7:62423]

2003-02-03 Thread Nelson Herron
Are there any special tricks to getting a dialer watch to work on a 4500
NP-4B?  I have tried the configurations from the web site and from Solie's
book on a 4500 w/4B connecting to a 4000M/4B via a Teltone Demonstrator.  I
cannot get the ISDN to show any dialer event activity when I unplug the
serial cable.  Packet debug shows the dialer conditions appropriately
(primary, secondary down) but no attempt appears to be made to dial out. 
I'm using IOS 12's.  I've tried clearing the int bri's, shut/no shut the bri
on each end, turning off the demonstrator, reloading the router.


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RE: Cisco Doc CD Errors [7:62417]

2003-02-03 Thread Nelson Herron
Thx.  I thought maybe they had gone to the Bill for some advice on how to
make the documentation more user friendly like like certain NOSs.  I have
been frogging around with that damned thing for a week now.  It worked fine
until I left for a Christmas vacation.  Had been using the web site since,
but decided that I should try to use the CD - dummmiieee.


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Re: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62394]

2003-02-03 Thread nrf
>From what I've seen, you can still get very high rates.

The problem is that in order to get those kind of rates, you either have to
be very well connected, have a big name (far beyond what a CCIE could ever
give you - for example, Dr. Vint Cerf could easily command a princely rate,
but of course he "only" invented TCP/IP), or be an excellent salesman, or
usually all of the above.  Furthermore, it is extremely dangerous to assume
that you will be getting that high rate consistently for 40 hours a week, 50
weeks a year.  The Usually the majority of your time will be spent scoping
out clients, marketing yourself, and doing paperwork - things for which you
are making no money.

Also from what I've seen, for true success as a self-employed person, what
is much more important than your technical skills is your business savvy.  I
know a bunch of technically brilliant people who could never run their own
gig, and by the same token, I know guys who, quite frankly, suck
technically, but have the slick salesmanship to be very successful at
running their own business.  You might ask how such people can actually get
jobs done if they aren't technically sharp, and the answer is simple - they
hire others to do it for them.   To digress slightly,this is why at
practically every tech company I know, the top salesmen always make
substantially more than the top engineers - often by a factor of 3 to 5
times.


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> Not sure about Chicago area, but in my area, rate is generally above
> $150/hr. And guess what, I'm in Silicon Valley.
>
> To configure a router or switch is simple. Worst case, pick up the phone
> and call TAC will solve most configuration problems. Customers are
> looking for someone that can run the show. CCIE is not enough, you also
> need to know how to do project management and very importantly, how to
> BS.
>
> This is based on several interviews I had during the past couple of
> weeks.
>
> Yoshi
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Mike Schlenger
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62394]
>
> Really? WHERE DO I SIGN?? :)
>
> Mike
> Chicagoland CCIE #7079
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Munzani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:12 PM
> To: steve r; Jay Greenberg; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE Self-Employment
>
>
> Rate depends on who is paying and how much do they have? :-)
>
> In chicago area $125/Hr is considered normal with 1 way travel time. If
> you
> got a fortune 500 client, you can easily bump it up to $175/Hr. and they
> will not argue about it.
>
> Sam
>
>
> > CCIE self employed,
> > well if you find another CCIE to partner with you can get silver
> partner
> > status, (and some other requirements too)
> >
> > If you are in the biz you should know...pix...vpn and some other stuff
> the
> > hourly work is great but it depends on the clients locations...and the
> > billing rate..
> > Good luck in this market it may be better then being out of work like
> my
> > friend is (and he is a CCIE too)
> > Bill at what you can get $100 to $200 an hour or more
> > or less if its cash..
> >
> > Stephen
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jay Greenberg"
> > To: ;
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM
> > Subject: CCIE Self-Employment
> >
> >
> > > Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves?  What's the money
> > > like, what sort of companies do you work for?  Do you do short-term
> or
> > > long term contracts?  Hourly work?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason Greenberg, CCIE #11021
> > >
> > > .
> > .
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Re: VPN Management and Reporting for Cisco Site-to-site VPN [7:62426]

2003-02-03 Thread dre
""Thomas N.""  wrote in message ...
> I am deploying Site-to-site VPN using Cisco IOS routers.  I am
> wondering what software package offering the management, connectivity
> monitoring of tunnels, and content reporting available?  How much
> it costs?  Thanks!

Most people roll-their-own (i.e. use a home-grown solution).

They often use the following base programming languages to do so: C,
C++, Java, Perl, Python, Tcl, Expect, Ruby, Unix Shell, and similar,
less-powerful Microsoft or IBM languages (NT Shell, Visual Basic,
VBScript, C#, REXX, JCL, COBOL, etc).  Sometimes applications are
written in assembly (x86, m68k, mips), but this is less often the case.

Sometimes the use of libraries, or modules, are used (net-snmp,
libgd, the ANSI/ISO C libraries, C++ STL templates, CPAN Perl
modules) other times, horrific sub-languages are created instead
(Microsoft Foundation Classes) and munged -- but possibly made useful.

Sometimes these are packaged together in the form of commercial
(read: over-priced) or open-source software (e.g. MRTG), but often
these packages do not meet any specific needs, only generic
requirements that often involve complex customization anyways.

However, functionality that meets your criteria is available as a
$20k or thereabouts software package from Cisco, simply search on
their website under Network Management and find a VPN-specific
solution that appears to meet your needs.  In reality, this sort
of package requires more than just "customization", it requires
more time and money in the form of "software application babysitting",
and late-night calls to Cisco for tech support calls that are
followed-up the next day and night by more calls, ad nauseum.
For some reason, other commercial products and even the least
hardened (or worst coded) open-source software packages do
not seem to suffer this "babysitting" complex, while CiscoWorks
does.  I do not have room in this email to further explain this
phenonmenon.

You may find that the easiest route is to collect some Cisco IOS
SNMP MIB OID's (enough acronyms for you there?) and graph
them, while also either using an external application to create
thresholds on the OID values (counter or gauge integer types),
or an internal polling mechanim such as SAA or RMON alarms
and events (and have the thresholds sent to your pager or email
or syslog file or operations center monitor).

This is often very easily accomplished with NET-SNMP or MRTG,
which are open-source and free to download.  Others find it is
best to have it centrally located in some type of overlord system
such as IRCd, or $100M/year software-supported applications made
by the likes of the network management triumvirate - HP, CA, and
IBM/Tivoli.

It is also recommended that you choose one platform/package and
not, for example, 3 (especially when you end up spending $300M per
year).  Often what you hear of as "best-of-breed" is normally just
another way of adding additional complexity, under-utilization, and
exponential interoperability issues between platforms/packages.

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RE: PIX Licensing [7:62233]

2003-02-03 Thread Claudio Spescha
hi, 

this is a "show version" printout from a 535 PIX with FO license.


with failover license
_

Cisco PIX Firewall Version 6.2(2)
Cisco PIX Device Manager Version 2.0(2)

Compiled on Fri 07-Jun-02 17:49 by morlee

inetpix up 156 days 14 hours

Hardware:   PIX-535, 1024 MB RAM, CPU Pentium III 1000 MHz
Flash i28F640J5 @ 0x300, 16MB
BIOS Flash DA28F320J5 @ 0xfffd8000, 128KB

Encryption hardware device : IRE2141 with 2048KB, HW:1.0, CGXROM:1.9, FW:6.5
0: gb-ethernet0: address is 0003.47e0.0748, irq 10
1: gb-ethernet1: address is 0003.47e0.070d, irq 255
2: ethernet0: address is 00e0.b605.74f7, irq 11
3: ethernet1: address is 00e0.b605.74f6, irq 10
4: ethernet2: address is 00e0.b605.74f5, irq 11
5: ethernet3: address is 00e0.b605.74f4, irq 10
6: ethernet4: address is 0002.b3b2.4a00, irq 12
7: ethernet5: address is 0002.b3b2.49ff, irq 12
8: ethernet6: address is 0002.b3b2.4a02, irq 11
9: ethernet7: address is 0002.b3b2.4a01, irq 255
Licensed Features:
Failover:   Enabled
VPN-DES:Enabled
VPN-3DES:   Enabled
Maximum Interfaces: 10
Cut-through Proxy:  Enabled
Guards: Enabled
URL-filtering:  Enabled
Inside Hosts:   Unlimited
Throughput: Unlimited
IKE peers:  Unlimited

This machine is licensed to run in failover secondary mode only

Serial Number: 406300710 (0x1837a826)
Running Activation Key: 0xba6c104d 0xc375beb0 0x1a8b03e8 0x81cee06a
Configuration last modified by enable_15 at 09:42:24.312 MET Mon Feb 3 2003


with UR-license, primary PIX
_

Cisco PIX Firewall Version 6.2(2)
Cisco PIX Device Manager Version 2.0(2)

Compiled on Fri 07-Jun-02 17:49 by morlee

inetpix up 156 days 14 hours

Hardware:   PIX-535, 1024 MB RAM, CPU Pentium III 1000 MHz
Flash i28F640J5 @ 0x300, 16MB
BIOS Flash DA28F320J5 @ 0xfffd8000, 128KB

Encryption hardware device : IRE2141 with 2048KB, HW:1.0, CGXROM:1.9, FW:6.5
0: gb-ethernet0: address is 0003.47e0.07c6, irq 10
1: gb-ethernet1: address is 0003.47e0.0715, irq 255
2: ethernet0: address is 00e0.b603.4f58, irq 11
3: ethernet1: address is 00e0.b603.4f57, irq 10
4: ethernet2: address is 00e0.b603.4f56, irq 11
5: ethernet3: address is 00e0.b603.4f55, irq 10
6: ethernet4: address is 0002.b3b2.4880, irq 12
7: ethernet5: address is 0002.b3b2.46b3, irq 12
8: ethernet6: address is 0002.b3b2.4a32, irq 11
9: ethernet7: address is 0002.b3b2.475c, irq 255
Licensed Features:
Failover:   Enabled
VPN-DES:Enabled
VPN-3DES:   Enabled
Maximum Interfaces: 10
Cut-through Proxy:  Enabled
Guards: Enabled
URL-filtering:  Enabled
Inside Hosts:   Unlimited
Throughput: Unlimited
IKE peers:  Unlimited

Serial Number: 406300498 (0x1837a752)
Running Activation Key: 0xfb8670f9 0xdc4290f3 0x2e46ca84 0x3c3d8b96
Configuration last modified by enable_15 at 13:37:09.877 MET Fri Jan 31 2003
inetpix>


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Re: BayTech RPC-2 [7:62331]

2003-02-03 Thread Barry Campbell
I had the same problem, so I went to an APC product.


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> Hi Group,
>
> I am using baytech rpc-2 in my home lab but I could not get it to work
with
> a cisoc 2511 terminal server. I am using the correct cable from baytech.
> Could some one with a similar experience show me how to configure the 2511
> to work with baytech?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> John  Tafasi




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Re: VPN with Cisco router and digital certificates [7:62213]

2003-02-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I started once, but could not dedicate more time. The biggest problem was
that Cisco TAC do not support this design, so I could not get help.





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Assunto:Re: VPN with Cisco router and digital certificates [7:62213]


I guess no one has ever set this up before.

""Sam Sneed""  wrote in message
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> I have a 3600 router that current supports PPTP win2K clients using win2K
> client. I do not wnat to use Cisco client for VPN.
> What I am trying to do is authenticate using digital certificates. The
Cert
> server is Win2K certificate server. I used a MS machine as VPN server
with
> certificates and it works. I now need to get the Cisco router to do the
> same. Currently VPN users connecting to 3640 router and are authenticated
> via IAS using domain logons and it works fine this way.
> Has anyone implemented this? The router has certificate and it all looks
OK.
> I'm not sure how to configure the router to use digital certificates to
> authenticate the users instead of username/password.
> When I try to login I get "verifying username and password" and then
error
> 619 : the specifoed port is not connected.
>
> Here is config:
>
> aaa new-model
> aaa authentication login default group tacacs+ local line none
> aaa authentication ppp default group radius
> aaa authorization network default group radius none
> enable secret 5 $1$2MGM$ttPEfWBYGVf.Hc78TEuwn0
>
> vpdn enable
> !
> vpdn-group 1
> ! Default PPTP VPDN group
>  accept-dialin
>   protocol pptp
>   virtual-template 1
> !
> vpdn-group 2
> !
> !
> crypto ca identity mscert
>  enrollment mode ra
>  enrollment url http://99.17.4.20:80/certsrv/mscep/mscep.dll
> crypto ca certificate chain mscert
>  certificate 61285CC90004
> ...
> ...
>   1CAC37AB 61BDC6
>   quit
>  certificate ra-sign 6144F5320002
> ..
>
>   quit
>  certificate ra-encrypt 6144F7EF0003
> .
> .
> certificate ca 1B36F87430D2D4AC47DC9C0E1C4D9320
>
> interface Virtual-Template1
>  ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
>  ip nat inside
>  ip mroute-cache
>  no keepalive
>  peer default ip address pool vpn
>  ppp encrypt mppe 128 required
>  ppp authentication ms-chap
>  ppp timeout authentication 5
> !
> ip local pool vpn 123.17.10.31 123.17.10.254
>
> .




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RE: Upgrade BootROMs [7:62321]

2003-02-03 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G
Just a note: I needed to purchase one of those Programmable Logic Controller
Chip (PLCC) extractor tools to pull out the old Boot ROMS (the tool is shown
in the link that Symon provided). I just couldn't pull them out any other
way without doing some damage! They're inexpensive; I got mine at Radio
Shack for about $8.00 or less a couple of years ago.

Shawn K.

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Subject: RE: Upgrade BootROMs [7:62321]

Yep, you just pull them out and put the new ones in. Be careful to put
the correct one in the correct slot.

Search google or cco for "replace boot roms 2500" there is an excellent
cisco doc

Infact, I just did it, and this was the first hit:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_fix/cis2500/2
500cfig/bootrom.htm

Too easy

Symon

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Subject: Upgrade BootROMs [7:62321]


Hi Gruop,

I want to upgrade my BootROMs for my 2500s routers.  Is it easy to do?

Any comments will be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,
Hunt
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3640 and 2 NM-2FE-2W? [7:62346]

2003-02-03 Thread Ben Hockenhull
I've got a 3640 running 12.2.x software and currently have one NM-2FE-2W
installed, with 2 WICs in it.  I tried to install another NM-2FE-2W and
use the WIC slots in that NM as well, but none of the interfaces show up.

I can't find any documentation one way or another about support for
multiple NM2-FE-2Ws in a 3640.  Anyone know if this is supported?

I'm not concerned about overutilizing the backplane with 4 FE interfaces,
as I won't use all 4.

Ben

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Route Summarization [7:62347]

2003-02-03 Thread Steven Aiello
Hello All,

I have a question about route summarization.  I was reading over the 
material from Cisco on the matter, I was wondering; or actually 
assuming.  If you want to have route summarization in place to you need 
continuos network numbers?  I know that the docs. said you would send a 
network address upstream that would reflect the bit that are common to 
all networks thus decreasing the size of the routing tables which is 
great.  But what if someone else owned a network block on the net that 
was randomly missing from your group?  Again, I can only assume that you 
must have all continuous networks.  Is this correct, or am I missing 
something?

Thank you all,
Steven




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CCIE training in the MD area by Brian (CCIE) - ?? [7:62348]

2003-02-03 Thread Cisco Nuts
Hello,Does anyone know if Brian still offers the CCIE training in the MD
area? Does anyone know of his web-site?Thank you.



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Re: 3640 and 2 NM-2FE-2W? [7:62346]

2003-02-03 Thread MADMAN
According to this table you should be able to install 4!

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/routers/ps274/products_data_sheet09186a00800921cb.html

   Dave

Ben Hockenhull wrote:
> I've got a 3640 running 12.2.x software and currently have one NM-2FE-2W
> installed, with 2 WICs in it.  I tried to install another NM-2FE-2W and
> use the WIC slots in that NM as well, but none of the interfaces show up.
> 
> I can't find any documentation one way or another about support for
> multiple NM2-FE-2Ws in a 3640.  Anyone know if this is supported?
> 
> I'm not concerned about overutilizing the backplane with 4 FE interfaces,
> as I won't use all 4.
> 
> Ben
> 
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RE: Route Summarization [7:62347]

2003-02-03 Thread s vermill
Steven Aiello wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have a question about route summarization.  I was reading
> over the
> material from Cisco on the matter, I was wondering; or actually 
> assuming.  If you want to have route summarization in place to
> you need
> continuos network numbers?  I know that the docs. said you
> would send a
> network address upstream that would reflect the bit that are
> common to
> all networks thus decreasing the size of the routing tables
> which is
> great.  But what if someone else owned a network block on the
> net that
> was randomly missing from your group?  Again, I can only assume
> that you
> must have all continuous networks.  Is this correct, or am I
> missing
> something?
> 
> Thank you all,
> Steven
> 
> 


More or less I think that's true.  But in the example where someone else has
a block of addresses from the middle of an otherwise contiguous block, that
can be accommodated.  In most instances, the most specific match is used. 
So as long as that rouge block was being advertised with a more specific
mask, there shouldn't be any problems.




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QOS Question [7:62351]

2003-02-03 Thread Tony
Using one T1 IP circuit, I need to allocate a certain percentage for VPN and
the rest for generic Internet traffic.   Would CBWFQ be the best solution to
reserve 60% for VPN?  And if it wasn't used for VPN, could it be used for
other?

Thanks




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Burst rate in Routes and Catalyst 6000 [7:62352]

2003-02-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For configuring CAR, normal burst sets a point where traffic is still
allowed. Between normal burst and exceed burst, traffic may be dropped or
transmitted.

http://www.pdaconsulting.com/dospart2.htm





For Catalyst 6000 policing, burst rate should have at least the size of the
maximum packet size or rate*interval.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/102.html

Any thoughts on that?




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