RE: IOS image.... [7:73481]
Probably anything 12.2(x) would be a good place to start ;-) Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP Suite 325 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Rosemont, Il 60018 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Knowledge Behind The Network -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shab Hanon Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IOS image [7:73481] Hello everybody... Which IOS image is the best to work on once doing preparations for the RS lab I am working with IP Plus and there is no ISIS... Can any one put his or her experience...? Cheers, Shab. **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73483t=73481 -- **Please support GroupStudy by purchasing from the GroupStudy Store: http://shop.groupstudy.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
RE: CCIE required in UAE. [7:72879]
I was waiting to see what the US dollar conversion was. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP Suite 325 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Rosemont, Il 60018 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Knowledge Behind The Network -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walker, James - Is Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE required in UAE. [7:72879] That is only $2118.51 a month? -Original Message- From: afshin mehrpouya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 1:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE required in UAE. [7:72879] CCIE required in UAE-Dubai for an international solution provider company. Min salary 2 derhems/month. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72937t=72879 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MCNS EXAM - any pointers? besides the Book!!! [7:72760]
Yes, make sure you know EZVPN. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP Suite 325 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Rosemont, Il 60018 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Knowledge Behind The Network -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of thartman Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 8:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MCNS EXAM - any pointers? besides the Book!!! [7:72760] I am taking the exam in approx 1 week and have read the MCNS book - any other pointers to hit hard for the exam. Thanx, tlh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72769t=72760 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Switching exam tomorrow. 1 question. [7:72485]
I'd imagine a fair amount Dave. I recently took the MCNS exam and it had a pretty fair amount of simulations. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP Suite 325 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Rosemont, Il 60018 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Knowledge Behind The Network -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Switching exam tomorrow. 1 question. [7:72485] I'm taking the 640-604 BCMSN test tomorrow. Without divulging anything that might get anyone in trouble, I'm trying to find out what sort of simulations I can expect.I havn't really been able to find anything that would give me an idea of what they will be. Thanks, David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72493t=72485 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Network Security [7:70841]
SAFE is Cisco's new (well not that new), Security Architectural Model that fits quite nicely into the more grandiose AVVID architecture. HTH, Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP Suite 325 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Rosemont, Il 60018 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Knowledge Behind The Network -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DeVoe, Charles (PKI) Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Network Security [7:70841] What is SAFE??? -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network Security [7:70841] At 3:18 PM + 6/20/03, annlee wrote: SAFE does start out with the explicit assumption that a Security Policy is already in place. A valid observation. Still, with this specific post, there doesn't seem to be either a threat assessment or a security policy, just a request for mechanisms (not even in an architecture like SAFE). To coin a phrase, what problem is the original poster trying to solve? FWIW, there is an example Security Polcy in the MCNS course book from Cisco Press -- Mike Wenstrom's book -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1578701031/qid=1056122196/sr= 1-21/ref=sr_1_21/104-7746290-9333516?v=glances=books There are places where I disagree with how it's put together, but they really are more differeneces of style rather than substance. Annlee Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] As you've reminded me many times, Annlee, one really needs a security policy and a threat assessment before going into the details of the security architecture solution. SAFE doesn't give much guidance on policy formulation. I'm concerned with the goal statement of the original poster, Want to go for network security, e.g., protect against virus attack, when virus attack isn't even a network security issue -- it's a host issue. Arguably, worm, as opposed to virus attacks, are both host and network, because they can affect bandwidth. At 1:40 PM + 6/19/03, annlee wrote: Here's a good place to start -- http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns110/ns170/ns171/ns128/networking_solut i ons_package.html Pick a blueprint appropriate to your organization's size and the type of networking you do. SAFE is a mental architecture, as much as anything -- it's a think about the whole problem but solve it in increments kind of approach, I think. HTH Annlee milind tare wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear All, i hv following setup;- 2 6506 core switches having redundancy. 10 Nos. 3508 Distribution Switches. and 3500 series access's switches. in whole plant i hv 140 switches. want to go for network security. e.g. protect from virus attact , hacking so can anyone sugest me cisco product. please give me the URL also so i can study. Thanks Regards, milind Tare Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72339t=70841 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: how about ccie salary in US? [7:71143]
I'd say diversity is the key. I know several CCIEs who, outside of R/S don't have much to offer in the way of skillset and they are not commanding as high of salaries as guys without a number but deeper and more diverse expertise. It totally depends on the individual, the need, the location and the experiences (which are unique to and every one of us). Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP Suite 325 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Rosemont, Il 60018 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Knowledge Behind The Network -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n rf Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how about ccie salary in US? [7:71143] - jvd wrote: I wonder if anybody is going to have anything positive to say about this post? So basically, you want us to lie, eh? ;-. Seriously, CCIE salaries have been down for awhile and any honest discussion about salaries is going to be necessarily negative. When something's black, it would be a lie to call it white. As far as the original question, so much depends on your experience level, the geographical location, things like holding a degree (or not). Strong candidates that have lots of experience, are well educated, and are in places can still pull nice salaries. But I'm also aware of CCIE's applying for positions that pay less than 30k - and not getting them. The point is that the CCIE by itself guarantees nothing. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=71207t=71143 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349]
Check out WTI. They've got several products that may be of interest to you for OOB management and will likely be less expensive. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP Suite 325 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Rosemont, Il 60018 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Knowledge Behind The Network -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: remote management of routers? [7:70349] (AS2509-RJ-CH) we would be looking at $1600 each a bit high to manage one router but a nice setup if I have more then one. We are looking at offering a manageed router service for some ISP's in the states. Ryan - Original Message - From: Nathan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 6:39 PM Subject: RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349] What you can use is what's called a OOB switch. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/iad/ps492/index.html I think that's what you might be looking for. -Nate -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: remote management of routers? [7:70349] I am looking to manage routers when the DS1 or DS3 goes down so the only away I can get to the router is a POTTS line. -Original Message- From: Andrew Dorsett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 6/8/2003 1:38 PM To: Ryan Finnesey Cc: Subject: Re: remote management of routers? [7:70349] On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Can anyone recommend a unit that I can rack mount and that would let me dial into a router via the AUX port? Are you looking for just one or more ports? Perle makes a greatone that has SSH support for remote access. If you are looking for modem access just plug up an external modem to the port using the cisco adapters and console cable. Then configure the router to init the modem and answer it. Andrew --- http://www.andrewsworld.net/ ICQ: 2895251 Cisco Certified Network Associate Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all of them yourself. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70378t=70349 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Qual Exam Question ... [7:70162]
They retire your number but they also reserve it so that you have the opportunity to re-take the lab et al and receive your original number. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP Suite 325 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Rosemont, Il 60018 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Knowledge Behind The Network -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Brunner Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE Qual Exam Question ... [7:70162] Most of those are not re-certified. I would like to know of the 11,000+ ccie's how many are still active ? I guess they retire your number even if you become inactive. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=70218t=70162 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Info about cisco IDS [7:66238]
Cisco is replacing all of the older Entercept models that you are referencing with the recently acquired OKENA line. OKENA (we were partners with them prior to the Cisco acquisition), was in the process of developing products for use on Unix/Linux platforms. Currently they only support W2K/NT. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sales Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Info about cisco IDS [7:66238] The Cisco IDS uses Solaris Unix and has an interface that listens to traffic (promiscuous mode) but does not have an IP address assigned to it. The traffic is then compared to signatures for pattern matching. www.ccie4u.com Rack Rentals and Lab Scenarios -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ritul Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Info about cisco IDS [7:66238] Hi ! I want to know is Snort used with CISCO IDS ? Ritul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66331t=66238 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Info about cisco IDS [7:66238]
And now it's OKENA as they are swapping out the OEM'd Entercept solution. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kent Hundley Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Info about cisco IDS [7:66238] AFAIK, no. Cisco IDS was purchased from the Wheel Group and previously went by the name Netranger. Regards, Kent On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 07:12, ritul wrote: Hi ! I want to know is Snort used with CISCO IDS ? Ritul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66265t=66238 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Convert from Custome Queue to CBWFQ [7:65700]
Are you asking or responding to a post? I may have missed the first portion Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Convert from Custome Queue to CBWFQ [7:65700] Within your CQ queue 1 = 500/3000= 16% queue 2 = 1500/3000 = 50% queue 3 = 1000/3000 = 33% So, with CBWQ you would use bandwidth 16 for the traffic that was destinated to queue1 in CQ, and so on. Does it make sense? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65842t=65700 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 9E0-541 Exam trobules [7:65162]
Take a deep breath and relax Arni. They are just more tests, don't let them get the better of you. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 9E0-541 Exam trobules [7:65162] Damm routing and switching Spec. exam 9E0-541, I have taken It two times in two weeks, and failed both times the first time I got 819 need 825, today I got 777, I am s pissed, at myself for the mostpart but this exam is rather hard, atleast the version I got to day, the one I got last week was ok, but I just did not know anything about the SOHO products, so that failed me, but today totaly diffrent, anyone here that has passed this exam ? I have CCNA/DA CCNP/DP and passed all of them in the first try. are the specilazition exams this much harder ??? well, just letting of some steem, I guess I wait for two weeks now and the try It again... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=65199t=65162 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Security News Groups [7:64907]
Check out www.infosyssec.com Steve, you'll find links to several there. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Aiello Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Security News Groups [7:64907] Hello all, I saw a post a little bit ago about security news groups. I'll ask again because I also have been looking for one. Any one know of a good security news group? If so please share. Steve Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64920t=64907 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Slighlty Off Topic .... IP Phone Ring Tones [7:64461]
Well, in theory you should be able to take any sound (saved as a WAV) and add it to the lists. I've heard some very odd wavs saved and used for rings. As far as quality goes there are downloadable freeware tools for editing the sound quality of .wav files that you may wish to look into. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Slighlty Off Topic IP Phone Ring Tones [7:64461] I have converted some mp3 sounds to RAW. I copy these to the call manager, and my 7940 can select the new ring tone. However, the quality is really poor !!! I was wondering if anyone has done this, how they resolved it, and if anyone knows where I can download RAW sound files from. Kind regards Paul ... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64523t=64461 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP Telephony SIP [7:64433]
Do you want to know why SIP is better than H.323 perhaps? CCM stands for Cisco Call Manager where as SIP stands for Session Initiation Protocol; two totally different animals where as one is a call management (aka pbx) platform and the other a suite of protocols used in VoIP communications. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of supernet Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP Telephony SIP [7:64433] Can anyone kindly enough tell me why SIP is better than CCM? What's the main difference between this two? Is there any SIP in production? Thanks. Yoshi Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64527t=64433 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Slighlty Off Topic .... IP Phone Ring Tones [7:64461]
Well, in theory you should be able to take any sound (saved as a WAV) and add it to the lists. I've heard some very odd wavs saved and used for rings. As far as quality goes there are downloadable freeware tools for editing the sound quality of .wav files that you may wish to look into. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Slighlty Off Topic IP Phone Ring Tones [7:64461] I have converted some mp3 sounds to RAW. I copy these to the call manager, and my 7940 can select the new ring tone. However, the quality is really poor !!! I was wondering if anyone has done this, how they resolved it, and if anyone knows where I can download RAW sound files from. Kind regards Paul ... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64522t=64461 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IP Telephony SIP [7:64433]
Do you want to know why SIP is better than H.323 perhaps? CCM stands for Cisco Call Manager where as SIP stands for Session Initiation Protocol; two totally different animals where as one is a call management (aka pbx) platform and the other a suite of protocols used in VoIP communications. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of supernet Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP Telephony SIP [7:64433] Can anyone kindly enough tell me why SIP is better than CCM? What's the main difference between this two? Is there any SIP in production? Thanks. Yoshi Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64526t=64433 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Veterans Benefits [7:64425]
I am not sure but if so, I'd be curious to know as well. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The guy in Sunny Southwest Florida Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Veterans Benefits [7:64425] Can Veterans receive assistance for CCIE lab training programs? I hope you guys have the answer. Best regards, Randy Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64525t=64425 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Veterans Benefits [7:64425]
I am not sure but if so, I'd be curious to know as well. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The guy in Sunny Southwest Florida Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Veterans Benefits [7:64425] Can Veterans receive assistance for CCIE lab training programs? I hope you guys have the answer. Best regards, Randy Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=64524t=64425 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Snort versus Cisco IDS [7:62939]
Exactly! Great points Paul, SNORT truly is top drawer. There are so many good reasons to use it (price, continual updates etc.). I would advise anyone interested in IDS though to consider using two variants (signature based, anomaly based, application behavior based et al). This will provide a sanity check and help mitigate false positives. Cheers, Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Borghese Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Snort versus Cisco IDS [7:62939] The thing that makes SNORT so powerful is the attack rules which are updated almost daily. Also, you can not beat the price. Simply find an unused PC, install Linux and install Snort. The software and OS is free! You will need some sort of parsing software to read the snort logs. Check out ACID (http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/) or SnortSnarf. Paul Borghese -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Will Gragido Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Snort versus Cisco IDS [7:62939] Not to mention the fact that Cisco Systems bought Okena Software www.okena.com, last month specifically for their Intrusion Prevention software. SNORT is a great tool, I don't think that anyone would or can argue that. I think that being that it's driven by the open source community it comes (and has come since it became the 'SHADOW'), under a great deal of scrutiny; however, I have yet to see instances where it fails. I agree with Kent in regards to Cisco System's proudly recommending their solution (which when you look under the hood is really an OEM licensed version of Entercept's product, hence the purchase of OKENA). Furthermore, I can't see ANY Cisco Systems SE staying employed for any amount of time if they openly discouraged existing as well as potential clients from purchasing their solutions. Cheers, Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kent Hundley Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Snort versus Cisco IDS [7:62939] On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 00:06, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Someone told me in an authoritative voice today that Cisco doesn't recommend their IDS. They recommend Snort. Is this really true? Isn't Cisco's IDS a big part of SAFE? Whomever told you this: 1) Is extremely naiive (one Cisco engineer told them something and they took it as gospel) 2) Has never talked to any of the Cisco teams that manage large global accounts I can tell you for a 100% fact that Cisco recommends their IDS very actively to their large global customers, I'm working on a Fortune 5 account right now and the Cisco team is heavily pushing a Cisco IDS deployment. If one of their engineers recommended snort, the AM would have them bound and gagged and thrown in a very dark basement. ;-) Of course, the person who said this doesn't understand that Cisco is a huge, chaotic organism, and that saying Cisco does something based on what one person does, doesn't make sense. But I'm just curious, what do you all recommend for intrusion detection? How do Snort and Cisco IDS compare? I guess Cisco's solution is a bit more complicated, requiring appliances or IDS cards in a switch and a console: Cisco IDS is a commercial, fully baked product in the sense that it has a lot of bells and whistles for the end-user market. Cisco is also developing custom hardware such as blades that slide into a Cat 6500, making for easy deployment and the ability to capture and process traffic at Gigabit speeds. Snort is much more of a tech geeks solution, although there are a lot of talented people writing code to increase its ease of use such. (things like ACID and Demarc) The bottom line is that snort will do the job in a lot of environments, but your going to need to have some very technical people to handle the care and feeding of the system. It is an open source solution and doesn't come with built-in support other than what you get through mailing lists. The Cisco IDS comes with TAC behind it. You pay more for more support baked into the process and a large amount of dedicated resources working on your issues. (it's the same old open source vs commercial product argument) For small environments where funds are very limited or for environments with highly technical but cheap labor (such as universities), snort is probably the better solution. For large enterprises, Cisco would probably be the better choice. Of course, YMMV, a lot depends on the environment, , that's my opinion, take it with a grain of salt, yada, yada, yada, etc
RE: Snort versus Cisco IDS [7:62939]
I love NESSUS, again, not that commercial products aren't or can't be as good, but it seems to me that open source tools (for reasons we've mentioned often here), win out in the end. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Borghese Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Snort versus Cisco IDS [7:62939] Do not forget about the open source scanner Nessus (www.nessus.org) for penetration testing. One of the best around! Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Vicky Mair Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Snort versus Cisco IDS [7:62939] comments in-line: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Snort versus Cisco IDS [7:62939] Someone told me in an authoritative voice today that Cisco doesn't recommend their IDS. They recommend Snort. Is this really true? Isn't Cisco's IDS a big part of SAFE? i'm not at all surprised (mean no dis-respect to anyone).the same reason cisco don't use ciscoworks for managing their internal production devicesthe same reason m$ doesn't use their own source control software for coding.in my opinion open source rules. linux, mrtg and snort are perfect examples. Of course, the person who said this doesn't understand that Cisco is a huge, chaotic organism, and that saying Cisco does something based on what one person does, doesn't make sense. it depends whose talking ;-) But I'm just curious, what do you all recommend for intrusion detection? How do Snort and Cisco IDS compare? I guess Cisco's solution is a bit more complicated, requiring appliances or IDS cards in a switch and a console: oh boy, this is a loaded question.but since you asked, in my opinion i'm simply impressed by the rule sets that are being generated for snort as compared to cisco ids...perfect example was slammer worm virus. snort community had the rule set out in matter of couple hours. if need be you can even get commercial support for snort similar to linux and mrtg. one could argue between hardware and software ids solutions similar to hardware and software ipsec encryption solutions. we can talk about this all day ;-) ultimately its upto you to make that decision, weighing pros and cons of a product before making the investment (time/money/support/roi...etc). as you know, there's 10 different ways to skin a catthere's no silver bullet ;-) rule #1: perfection is a myth, there's no perfect network. regards, /vicky Cisco Secure IDS DirectorHP OpenView Network Node Manager plug-in that runs on UNIX (Solaris and HP-UX) Cisco Secure Policy Manager (v2.2+)Windows NT-based package Thanks. Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63047t=62939 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Snort versus Cisco IDS [7:62939]
Not to mention the fact that Cisco Systems bought Okena Software www.okena.com, last month specifically for their Intrusion Prevention software. SNORT is a great tool, I don't think that anyone would or can argue that. I think that being that it's driven by the open source community it comes (and has come since it became the 'SHADOW'), under a great deal of scrutiny; however, I have yet to see instances where it fails. I agree with Kent in regards to Cisco System's proudly recommending their solution (which when you look under the hood is really an OEM licensed version of Entercept's product, hence the purchase of OKENA). Furthermore, I can't see ANY Cisco Systems SE staying employed for any amount of time if they openly discouraged existing as well as potential clients from purchasing their solutions. Cheers, Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kent Hundley Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Snort versus Cisco IDS [7:62939] On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 00:06, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Someone told me in an authoritative voice today that Cisco doesn't recommend their IDS. They recommend Snort. Is this really true? Isn't Cisco's IDS a big part of SAFE? Whomever told you this: 1) Is extremely naiive (one Cisco engineer told them something and they took it as gospel) 2) Has never talked to any of the Cisco teams that manage large global accounts I can tell you for a 100% fact that Cisco recommends their IDS very actively to their large global customers, I'm working on a Fortune 5 account right now and the Cisco team is heavily pushing a Cisco IDS deployment. If one of their engineers recommended snort, the AM would have them bound and gagged and thrown in a very dark basement. ;-) Of course, the person who said this doesn't understand that Cisco is a huge, chaotic organism, and that saying Cisco does something based on what one person does, doesn't make sense. But I'm just curious, what do you all recommend for intrusion detection? How do Snort and Cisco IDS compare? I guess Cisco's solution is a bit more complicated, requiring appliances or IDS cards in a switch and a console: Cisco IDS is a commercial, fully baked product in the sense that it has a lot of bells and whistles for the end-user market. Cisco is also developing custom hardware such as blades that slide into a Cat 6500, making for easy deployment and the ability to capture and process traffic at Gigabit speeds. Snort is much more of a tech geeks solution, although there are a lot of talented people writing code to increase its ease of use such. (things like ACID and Demarc) The bottom line is that snort will do the job in a lot of environments, but your going to need to have some very technical people to handle the care and feeding of the system. It is an open source solution and doesn't come with built-in support other than what you get through mailing lists. The Cisco IDS comes with TAC behind it. You pay more for more support baked into the process and a large amount of dedicated resources working on your issues. (it's the same old open source vs commercial product argument) For small environments where funds are very limited or for environments with highly technical but cheap labor (such as universities), snort is probably the better solution. For large enterprises, Cisco would probably be the better choice. Of course, YMMV, a lot depends on the environment, , that's my opinion, take it with a grain of salt, yada, yada, yada, etc. etc. disclaimer, disclaimer... Regards, Kent Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63003t=62939 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Easy question [7:63002]
You're booting up in ROM MON mode, have you recently broken into this device or is this the first time the device has been configured? What model is it? Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP 9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave. Suite 325 Rosemont, Il 60018 www.ins.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Johnson, Richard (NY Int) Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Easy question [7:63002] Hi all, Every time I boot my router, it asks if I want to configure my router. I know I have to type some sort of confreg line in. Can someone tell me which one so I can boot my router correctly, without having to reconfigure it each time. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=63005t=63002 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Confusion on CISSP requirements [7:60997]
Not necessarily Scott. You've got to be able to prove (in others words have documentable proof), that you've worked for a cumulative total of 4 years in the security field. Now, the caveat is that your work can be spread amongst the ten domains or relegated to one as long as your total time meets the minimum criteria. Then you are eligible to test. Once you test and pass, you must then be sponsored by a CISSP in good standing. Shoot me a note with any questions, Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCNA CCDA MCP blah blah blah NSC www.ins.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 6:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Confusion on CISSP requirements [7:60997] I'm a CCIE with over 4 years of experience in networking and a college degree. Each position I have had required a small percentage of security related work. Does that satisfy the requirements or are they asking for 100% security work? Any help greatly appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=61035t=60997 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VoIP from behind PIX [7:60796]
What sorts of performance issues are you noticing on the telephony side of the house? You said it was acceptable so on a MOS scale, whats the voice quality like? Thanks. Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 6:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VoIP from behind PIX [7:60796] We have several DSL sites that are composed of a PIX 501 and one or two IP phones. Voice quality is acceptable but not great. Scott --- On Fri 01/10, Simer Mayo wrote:From: Simer Mayo [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 07:35:17 GMTSubject: VoIP from behind PIX [7:60796]1. Will PIX 515 handle VoIP traffic?2. Will PIX 501 handle VoIP traffic?3. Can we VPN between 2 (site-to-site) and pass VoIP traffice thru theVPN Thanks SimerMessage Posted at:http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60796t=60796-- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.htmlReport misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=60828t=60796 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hello (long response) [7:58824]
LMAO. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter van Oene Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 2:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hello (long response) [7:58824] I brought these issues to my boss attention last wednesday and on thursay he ordered me to 'clean' house. The first thing I did was to send pink slips to all 4 CCIEs in the group and told them that they are fired because they don't know anything other than RS. They were making $130k/year and sucking almost all of So essentially, you started on 11/25 and after 8 days of work you were making 500k/year headcount reductions? Is wine coming out of the tap there yet or did you wake up? I don't disagree with your points and have never been one to judge an individuals quality on the basis of a vendor exam, but I think there are more credible ways to make this point. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58976t=58824 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DQoS exam - review [7:55603]
No,I am speaking of Deploying Quality of Service 9E0601 Cisco QoS. Its a mandatory exam for the CIPTS specialization. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kim Graham Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: DQoS exam - review [7:55603] Is this the QoS/Mcast exam you are speaking of? I am looking at writing it sometime mid December as preparation for the CCIE and as part of the CCIP track. Kim / Zukee Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55718t=55603 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DQoS exam - review [7:55603]
CIPT is a tough exam. I took and failed it and am scheduled to hit again in the next week. I thought that DQoS was much easier than CIPT. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: DQoS exam - review [7:55603] CIPT 5 times with your lab getting so close!?! Sounds like alot of energy put into that single test. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55665t=55603 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BCRAN Passed. [7:54732]
Congrats, I passed DQoS today! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jimmy Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 8:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BCRAN Passed. [7:54732] How is the simulation question? Easy? How many simulation question altogether? Amir Tahir wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... HI, I used Cisco certification guid, Sybex exam notes and amother book named Remote access for cisco networks by bill burton. exam was ok but i had problems in simulation Question. I could not perform the command copy run start i was keep geeting wrror. then i tried wr command to cave running configuration but could not save it. so i let that Question go without that. rest was ok not that bad I spent almost 6-10 hrs a day to review stuff finish cisco book almost 4 times, coz i m not working in cisco networks yet so thanks for your mail if U have any Q please feel free to ask. regards Amir Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54843t=54732 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Period to take ccnp tests [7:54848]
There are only two other exams for the CIPTS bro, CVOICE and CIPT. no no time limit -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leonardo Rocha Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Period to take ccnp tests [7:54848] Guys, if one take a ccnp exam today, is there a time limit to take the other 3 exams or else the exam gets invalid? Can someone help me? tks a lot, leo Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54849t=54848 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]
In Ciscoland FXS provides line voltage, ring etc., where as FXO is leading you out to the PSTN or to a PBX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Mellone Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331] That sounds great and makes more sense now! I always like reading your posts :-) I always confuse which device plugs into which port. I remember it like this: Plug phone or Station into FXS (where Station=S) Plug PBX/CO into FXO (where Office=0) - Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54339t=54331 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Deploying Quality of Service Exam 9E0-601 [7:54111]
The best materials are the Cisco Courseware, and Cisco IOS Quality of Service Solutions Configuration Guide Release 2.2, I'd also recommend taking a look at the DQoS Boson's, they are pretty close to the materials from what I've seen. I'm taking this exam on Saturday, so I'll let you know how good I think they truly are then :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Huston Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Deploying Quality of Service Exam 9E0-601 [7:54111] I would appreciate it if someone would recommend the best self study or otherwise material for the subject. Thank you in advance for your help. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54166t=54111 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IDS Appliance [7:52308]
Are the Cisco sensors signature based or anomaly based? At what data rate (realized), do they max out and in effect, stop reading signatures? Just curious since I've not worked with their offerings. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven A. Ridder Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDS Appliance [7:52308] so far so good. I installed one for a client, and it worked awesome. I even dropped it 10 feet, and it still worked! Brian Wilkins wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I was wondering if anyone else has been experiencing problems with Cisco's IDS sensor appliance (formerly Netranger). Almost every time I load a service pack or new signature file I end up rebuilding the device from scratch using the install CD's. I've filed multiple cases with TAC, with little help recieved. I've even spoken to the product manager for the devices and still can't seem to stabilize these things. Anyone else using Cisco IDS appliances? If so, how's your luck with them? Thanks, Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52334t=52308 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146]
Its been a long time coming folks. In the grand scheme of things, I'd say that the 5 digit is right about on time considering that other elite industry certs that have been around for approximately the same amount of time are either or already there or way past that. I don't think that it will hurt the value of the cert because once again at the end of the day, its the engineer/consultant/analyst et al, that makes the cert not the other way around. Will Gragido CISSP CCNP MCP Waiting in written la la land for the lab -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Borghese Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] This is it! The thing that will turn the industry around. Let's start asking people if their network is C1k compatable. Explain how most networks were designed for four digit CCIE's and they will need to hire us for a complete overhall of the network. Yea sure it will cost a lot, but look at the consequences of not upgrading your network to C1k compatability! Paul - Original Message - From: MADMAN To: Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:56 PM Subject: Re: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] CCIE 1040 sits next to me and I asked him if Imran (sp?) was his proctor and it was. Imran designed the orgianal program and it's our guess he was the proctor for the 1st CCIE. Imran was pretty tough, I remember talking to him at networkers in Denver when the CCIE recert first came out and about 100 of us took the test and only 2 passed. He chuckled stating his intention was to make it difficult so as to require studying. Dave Chuck's Long Road wrote: this topic of fascination for many often leads to a bit of confusion as well http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html shows the number of CCIE's world wide as of 7/31/02 The first CCIE number issued was 1025. Over the years, some have retired, some have neglected to recertify ( including Jeff Doyle, last time I looked ) So according to Cisco's numbers, on July 31 2002 there were 8031 active CCIE's. As a sidebar, Terry Slattery, CCIE 1026, tells how he was tested by CCIE 1025 ( sorry, I can't remember the name ) The theory was / remains that only CCIE's should test candidates. No one seems to know who tested #1025, nor the criteria used. Chuck -- www.chuckslongroad.info still a work in progress, but on line for your enjoyment z Jim Brown wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... First number assigned to a candidate was 1025. When we hit 11025 their will be 10,000 candidates not including people who didn't recertify. -Original Message- From: Reza Sharifi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: No longer 4 digits [7:52146] Is that because there are more than 1 CCIE,s?. Reza -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. --Winston Churchill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52167t=52146 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIP vs CCNP vs CCIE - not very close at all [7:45893]
You know its funny. These conversations are about as fruitful as kicking a dead horse. The CCIP is geared more towards the same arena as Junipers certs, Lucent's certs, and certainly some of Nortels certs. The R/S CCIE is an ENTERPRISE, lets say it again kids, ENTERPRISE centric certification. You are endeavoring to make the assertion that apples are the same as oranges when in fact they are not, and really share little in the way of commonalities. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JohnZ Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIP vs CCNP vs CCIE - not very close at all [7:45893] CCIP...Sure it smells like a new car. But if it doesnot require a hands on lab then it is just a few months away from turning into a paper cert. Perhaps you haven't looked at CCIE R/S closely but it does have Multicast on it and you can be sure you will be tested on it. But anyways I will stick to first comment without a vigrous lab it's worth will decrease with time as cramsites catch on to the test questions. Chris Parker wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Neal, I agree with you 100% the the CCIP is more relevent than the CCIE in the service provider sphere. However I think the CCIP has yet to attain the credability and recognition of the CCIE. I think the reason Cisco probably introduced the CCIP is to address the shortcomings of the CCIE in the service provider area. However, since the CCIE is so coveted and since some many people have invested so much in their CCIE's , i think Cisco probably didn't want to superceed the CCIE with the CCIP. Utimately, it will be up to the market to decide which certification is more relevent in the future. Perhaps CCIE will become associated more with the Enterpise arena and CCIP with the serivce provider arena. Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46054t=45893 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIP vs CCNP vs CCIE - not very close at all [7:45893]
I don't know that its harder more so than its just very different than what most people who've not worked within the SP realm are accustomed to. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Bernico Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIP vs CCNP vs CCIE - not very close at all [7:45893] The CCIP isn't supposed to be a replacement for CCIE. CCIP is a professional level exam for service providers that don't need to know enterprise(read boring) things like bridging and dial and instead focuses on service provider technologies. That being said, I've completed two CCIP electives (MPLS and metro optical) and I'm here to tell you they are way harder than the CCNP stuff. At any rate, if you want a service provider replacement for CCIE RS it is CCIE CS, not CCIP. --- Mike Bernico [EMAIL PROTECTED] Illinois Century Network http://www.illinois.net (217) 557-6555 -Original Message- From: JohnZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIP vs CCNP vs CCIE - not very close at all [7:45893] CCIP...Sure it smells like a new car. But if it doesnot require a hands on lab then it is just a few months away from turning into a paper cert. Perhaps you haven't looked at CCIE R/S closely but it does have Multicast on it and you can be sure you will be tested on it. But anyways I will stick to first comment without a vigrous lab it's worth will decrease with time as cramsites catch on to the test questions. Chris Parker wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Neal, I agree with you 100% the the CCIP is more relevent than the CCIE in the service provider sphere. However I think the CCIP has yet to attain the credability and recognition of the CCIE. I think the reason Cisco probably introduced the CCIP is to address the shortcomings of the CCIE in the service provider area. However, since the CCIE is so coveted and since some many people have invested so much in their CCIE's , i think Cisco probably didn't want to superceed the CCIE with the CCIP. Utimately, it will be up to the market to decide which certification is more relevent in the future. Perhaps CCIE will become associated more with the Enterpise arena and CCIP with the serivce provider arena. Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46060t=45893 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Anniversary [7:45937]
Well, being that the whole process of being 'made' is a NY Mafia thing, I think that its geographically centric ;-) In other cities, that was not the case. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anniversary [7:45937] At 10:33 AM -0400 6/6/02, Kenneth R. Snell wrote: Exactly one year as a made man. Time to start studying for the recert. So, I'm back! Ken #7544 I'm not sure I like the examplewhat if the Mafia required you to recertify in making your bones? :-) Might be useful for Noo Yawk CCIEs Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45955t=45937 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Anniversary [7:45937]
LOL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lupi, Guy Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anniversary [7:45937] I know when I got mine they made me burn the saint. ;) *-Original Message- *From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:47 AM *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject: Re: Anniversary [7:45937] * * *At 10:33 AM -0400 6/6/02, Kenneth R. Snell wrote: *Exactly one year as a made man. Time to start studying for *the recert. So, *I'm back! * *Ken *#7544 * * *I'm not sure I like the examplewhat if the Mafia required you to *recertify in making your bones? * *:-) * *Might be useful for Noo Yawk CCIEs * * * * *Report misconduct *and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45964t=45937 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: dual-homed hosts problems [7:43677]
LOL. OSPF is a wonderful thing, remember that life has a funny way of punishing those who can't recognize its little gifts, you could be working with IS-IS . -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: dual-homed hosts problems [7:43677] Sob as in cry! OSPF makes me cry. ;-) At 07:15 PM 5/10/02, Rah Hussain wrote: Priscilla, That's not very lady like ;-) Just kidding too :-) Rah -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 May 2002 17:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: dual-homed hosts problems [7:43677] At 12:35 PM 5/10/02, Maximus wrote: Sorry list members, the spell-checker changed OSPF to SOP. I think OSPF should be SOB. Just kidding! :-) Priscilla - Original Message - From: Maximus To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:40 PM Subject: Re: dual-homed hosts problems [7:43677] I may be wrong but your friend is using a routing protocol and therefore the below would not apply to the scenario. As for running SOP on the server IMHO it would be overkill for this specific situation. Keep it simple. Would I run SOP on a server? Depends on why I had the server built in the first place. Have a nice day! - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Reed To: Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 8:27 AM Subject: RE: dual-homed hosts problems [7:43677] I just talked to someone yesterday who said they are running OSPF on the WIN2000 servers and using dual NICs effectively. Is this a better way to dual home servers? Jeffrey Reed Classic Networking, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Galo Villacis Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 7:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: dual-homed hosts problems [7:43677] I believe your issue may relate to the single IP stack on 2000. Try defaulting traffic to the internet and adding a static route to the internal network opposed to specifying the gateway on the internal IP interface. Also I would go as far as disabling any NETBIOS on the external interface for security. cmd would be: route add -p Network Mask Gateway - Original Message - From: Henrique Duarte To: Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 5:48 PM Subject: Re: dual-homed hosts problems [7:43677] Bulent, Thank you for the reply. I am afraid you may have misunderstood this problem. Allow me to be more clear: 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.150 - Host A - 128.59.39.3 | (dual homed server) | | | | | 128.59.39.2 router A router C Internet | 192.168.1.1 | | T1 | | 192.168.1.2 | router B | 192.168.2.1 The problem happens on Host A. Host A is a WebServer with 2 interfaces: a public (which goes out to the internet) and a private (which talks to the database). The private interface has IP 192.168.0.150 and default GW 192.168.0.1. The public has ip 128.59.39.3 and default GW 128.59.39.2. Everything works fine if I leave the private interface's default GW blank. If I put Router C's address as the private interface's default gateway, after some time I cannot ping anywhere from Host A, even though I can ping it from the outside world. I need to have the private interface configured with 192.168.0.1 as the default GW because remote users need to be able to connect to that server via the back-end T1. Any light would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -H - Original Message - From: B|lent ^ahin To: Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:17 AM Subject: RE: dual-homed hosts problems [7:43677] When configuring ethernet interfaces on MS environment, you have three blank spaces to fill: IP_address, Subnet_mask and Default_gateway. So the people start to think every ethernet interface as a router: This interface will route IP packets to the other interface, so the default gateway of the first interface should be same as the IP address of the second interface., but there is one router on the PC: CPU. Try to configure only one default gateway. You can use the command route print to see what happens when you configure two or more default gateways. Bulent -Original Message- From: Henrique Duarte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:39 AM To: [EMAIL
RE: CCIE in 3-6 Months from cisco Interesting [7:43306]
Its getting kind of hot in here.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason Forrester Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 4:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE in 3-6 Months from cisco Interesting [7:43306] Becareful with the kid comment. I passed my CCIE at 20, dang near 19. Jason CCIE 8748 Michael L. Williams wrote: nrf wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Bullshi*. There are a significant number of guys lately who've passed the lab who I wouldn't hesitate to call paper (heck, even they have honestly referred to themselves as paper, usually after getting a few drinks into them). Significant? Help me understand the extent to which you use that word? If you're a proctor for CCIE labs and saw people day in and day out, then I would take your word for it. I have yet to take the lab, but I'm trying to understand how someone could make it through the lab and still be considered paper. Is the lab that big of a joke? Consider it's very high fail rate, I can't see it being so easy that people can't pass without understanding what they're doing? At least to the same level that anyone else who ever passed the lab did Personally I use paper to mean someone with a cert that doesn't have any hands-on to match it like paper MSCE.. I worked with this kid who was 19, has his MSCE, CNE, and Master CNE, but had zero hands on definitely paper... but we're talking the CCIE lab here. it's simply not possible (IMHO) to pass the lab without at least a minimum of hands-on (whether in a job or on practice equipment) to give one the skills to pass. But I do agree with the premise that the main reason for the devaluing of the cert is the bad economy, and the lab-rats are a lesser consideration (still important, but lesser). But on the other hand, I think it is the case that the CCIE will probably never attain the status that it once did, simply because the we will probably never see another huge network buildout orgy like the dotcom boom again in our lifetime. So while I believe the networking industry will get better, people who thinks it's going to get back to, say, 1999, are just deluding themselves. Agreed I don't thik we'll see things back like there were a couple of years ago. But I'm trying to draw a fine distinction between the devaluing of a cert (due to shoddy cert process) -vs- the salary that one pulls in with the cert. The CCIEs now (in general) don't make and probably in the future won't make what CCIEs of two years ago did. Is this a devaluation of the cert. Certainly not. That's the market that's the economy I don't believe that has much to do with whether employers and network professionals value the certification (i.e. consider someone with CCIE to be a true expert in networking). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=43521t=43306 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE in 3-6 Months from cisco Interesting [7:43306]
The begining of wisdom is the realization that you know nothingsomeone important said that once and I believe that its meaning is as pertinent today as it was when it was originally stated. To suggest that a CCIE possess god like qualities is a disservice to the CCIE and God if one stops to think about it. CCIEs are people and are capable of major goof ups just as much as the lowliest desktop technician. We live in an imperfect world, I think that its time that we all re-evaluate our conceptual understanding of the CCIE certification and realize that its merely another step in the never ending progression of learning. :-) My 2 Cents, Will Gragido CCNP CCNA CCDA MCP and SoB ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of TALBOT, WILLIAM P (SWBT) Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 5:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE in 3-6 Months from cisco Interesting [7:43306] I agree, there is a perception of CCIE's as arrogant know-it-alls. Some of this is surely warranted, and some surely stems from envy. Which is why I can laugh at this joke you may have already heard: Q:What's the difference between a CCIE and God? A:God doesn't think he is a CCIE... Pat (Set to incur the wrath of the aforementioned God at the RS Lab in RTP on May 18) -Original Message- From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 7:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE in 3-6 Months from cisco Interesting [7:43306] I also agree with you on many points. But anyway, inline I see your point about people not skipping the tech interview because of CCIE. And I also agree that it's a good thing. After all, when 'lab rats' (as you call them) are applying for jobs, it just makes sense that one would give a tough interview to weed them out. However, one must ask themselves What is the purpose of the cert? Just like a college degree in, say Computer Science. The BS in CS doesn't guarantee an employer that the person has experience, say, with PERL. However, the degree indicates that this person can learn and understand the logic of programming, etc. I don't think the purpose of the CCIE (or any Cisco cert) is to guarentee knowledge of absolutely everything in networking. That's not possible. However, I believe that it does indicate an advanced level of understanding of network principles as well as knowledge of specific technologies (EIGRP, HSRP, DLSw+, etc). So, as in your example of the person that didn't learn BGP because it wasn't required for the cert, I have to say So what. That wasn't the point of the CCIE. The CCNP cert doesn't cover IS-IS, for example, but I would hope anyone with CCNP could sit down, read about IS-IS, know how to look up IS-IS related commands on Cisco's site, and then implement what needs to be implemented. That's, IMHO, the purpose of obtaining the cert. This is absolutely true, nobody can know everything, and the CCIE was never designed to do that. On the other hand, there is a major difference between somebody who admits he doesn't know the answer, but can probably look it up, and somebody who boldly states something that is flatly wrong. For example, with that guy I interviewed who claimed that CEF can only be run on a GSR, clearly this was a case where he was trying to snow me. Now I admit, I was trying to trick him (I deliberately pretended that I knew nothing about networks because I wanted to see what kinds of things he would say if he didn't think I was a networking guy myself), and boy, was he tricked. It's certainly not a big joke, it's just that yes you really can pass the lab without experience. Granted, you need dedication and you need money to buy a home lab. Exactly - you need practice equipment. So you don't need a real job that provides hands-on equipment. You just need a lab, a lot of time, and a lot of money for exam attempts (or a willingness to go into debt). But a networking job? Not really, not to pass the lab. I understand your differentiation between real-world hands-on and practice lab (lab rat) hands-on. I truly do. But, again, it's like the college degree thing. If a company wants someone who has experience, they'll interview and ask questions that only seasoned professionals could answer. But, if they want someone with a certain level of knowledge, demonstrated ability to learn new things, and the ability to find resources and answer questions, then that could be a seasoned professional or someone that's certified (or someone with both). On the flip side of your argument, I've met people that are trying to get into networking from the telco side, and could explain in great detail how a T1 works, but couldn't explain HSRP (a very simple thing to understand and setup) to save their life. Doesn't mean their stupid, just not exposed to it. And the cert provides exposure to these things, whether real world or lab rat
RE: Pix load balance? [7:42974]
The best way to load balance is to use an application layer (layer 4-7) switch. I am not too familiar with Cisco's offering of this technology (sadly), but have worked extensively with Foundry's ServerIrons and they are excellent devices! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zeitz Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pix load balance? [7:42974] Load balancing is supposed to be done on content switches according to what I am reading. I cannot be done on the firewall withing the site, nor can it be done with different ISPs. Brian Zeitz MCSE, CCNP -Original Message- From: Gaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 6:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pix load balance? [7:42974] What's the reason? I'm not disputing the fact, just wondering what the limitation is. I take it that the limitation is only that it cannot do stateful failover with two active PIXes? Cheers, Gaz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Yeah, I asked the same questions last month. They can not. If you really need firewall and Load balancing, FW-1 is the way to go. Theo CSS1, CCNP, CCSE Patrick Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/06/2002 06:28 AM Please respond to Patrick To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Pix load balance? [7:42974] No. GEORGE wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can you load balance to pix firewalls? Has anyone done this? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=43525t=42974 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Urgent help Please! [7:43084]
Members, This is a problem. I feel that is not only inappropriate for someone to solicit the aide of this board and its subscribers in order to crack passwords, its unethical and potentially illegal. No offense Ravi, but this is unacceptable given to current state of legislation regarding Information Security. Paul, its your call and as such, I will leave it to your discretion, however there are clear problems with this. Regards, Will Gragido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Urgent help Please! [7:43084] Hi ! All, Can any one please break this password? enable secret 5 $1$rMrT$blzJIo4ZyCBfJkvu2CP/Z1 Thanks in advance. === WARNING This message may contain information that is confidential and may be subject to the provisions of section 61A of the Police Act 1958, which creates an offence to have unlawful possession of Police documents. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or have received this message in error, you must not peruse, use, pass or copy this message or any of its contents. Also note, the views expressed in this message may not necessarily reflect those of the New Zealand Police. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=43118t=43084 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Secret Clearance [7:42499]
LOL. Actually the policies are quite similar, Gaz however its all discretionary. People will talk regardless. If someone is inclined to talk then they are inclined to ramble on about clearances et al. For what its with, its not as though when a clearance is issued they hand you a plac and throw confetti in the air, its usually quietly done..or is it? ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gaz Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 4:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Secret Clearance [7:42499] The policies seem more lax in the US than in UK. I'm of the understanding that it is frowned upon to advertise the fact that you have any specific level of security clearance, particularly TS to avoid being targetted for any reason. I'm just guessing obviously, but seems like common sense. Can you tell me any more about yourself ;-) Gaz Paul Jin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Was this for Secret or TS? thanks, Paul EMW_Tech wrote: I shouldn't respond to a OT thread, but FYI, I had my persoanl interview by a DSS agent back in Decemberstill waiting. Oh, the process began in May 2000. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42641t=42499 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: mpls exam [7:42225]
Foundry's MPLS is a completely solid, end-to-end solution Theodore. Its extrmely robust and well thought out. I believe that I have a whitepaper from Foundry on their solution from one of the seminars I attended, I will be happy to forward it if you would like. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mpls exam [7:42225] I passed it. Just read the 2 Cicso books, know ATM well, and use every other source you have. I hear that Foundry's MPLS is better though Dave Dunbar Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/22/2002 11:35 PM Please respond to Dave Dunbar To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:mpls exam [7:42225] Does anyone out there have any advice on what to study for the exam. Has anyone found a site where there are any practice exams. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42322t=42225 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Security advice - opening ports other than 80 and 443 in[7: [7:42356]
Do you load balance traffic to your fire wall(s)? If so, what methodology and more importantly, whose technology are you using. For example, if you were utilizing Foundry Networks ServerIronXLs and are employing a sandwich architecture, you could not only switch based on the protocol and in effect load balance all port 80 and 443 traffic to different devices respectively, you could also provide nimda/code red (sic Trojan) mitigation. I believe that Cisco's CSS switches will allow you the same functionality but am not quite up to speed on that gear. Security Policies gain legitimacy through actions. Your Security Policy and Procedures should act as a point of reference to for your Rulesets, however it will be up to you as the administrator, working with your ITSEC team and business units to define and streamline your identify the types of traffic you will need to allow entry and exit from your network in order to maintain normal business conditions. Remember the more complex a solution is, the greater the risk due to learning curve, configuration etc. you are concerned about Worms and viruses infiltrating hosts within or past a zone/dmz you may wish to explore not only Network Based Intrusion Detection, but Host Based as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Patrick Ramsey Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Security advice - opening ports other than 80 and 443 in[7: [7:42347] a good security policy would have had this matetr taken care of as soon as it sprouted! :) (not directed to you Sam, just replying to thread) :) that aside, 1) opening up every port on the firewall is not danegrous unless you have something accesible via the firewall listening on a specific port. 2) it only takes one server to be hacked to bring a network to a stop 3) 1 should never happen because it is highly insecure.. :) sam sneed 04/23/02 12:41PM They can do more than just bring the server down. They can gain control of the server and have it attack other servers on your network or outside network. ex. the IIS code red worm only needed port 80 to be open on Winblows servers to spread across the internet. Brown, M wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Certain application requires port other than 80 or 443 opened in the firewall for inbound and outbound traffic. The firewall was configured to allow traffic to that specific server ip address. The software vendor argues that the worst scenario could be that hackers could bring the server down. No other significant would be possible. Is that true ? How risky is that to my network ? I would like to secure that connection using CA from the company and IPSec. The software vendor argues that is not necessary. Confidentiality Disclaimer This email and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and /or proprietary information in the possession of WellStar Health System, Inc. (WellStar) and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom addressed. This email may contain information that is held to be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized access, dissemination, distribution or copying of any information from this email is strictly prohibited, and may subject you to criminal and/or civil liability. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and then delete this email and its attachments from your computer. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42356t=42356 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
Thats not necessarily true. Bill Gates is an excellent example of someone with limited education, who went on to be a force to be reckoned with in the business world. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of nrf Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809] I understand. But on the other hand, if you have ambitions to be the CxO, a CCIE isn't going to cut it. Like you said, it's a case of what you want out of life. However, what I will definitely say is this. If you work for a company that is willing to finance your degree at night school, you're a fool not to take it. If you're not the one paying for it, you should get as many degrees as you can, because you never know what's going to happen in the future. Wes Stevens wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A lot of it is what you want out of life. I will be 50 in 5 years and am perfectly happy playing with cisco's. I make more money then my boss with the mba does and have more job security. What happens if you get laid off at 45 or 50 with a middle to upper management job? If you are not way up there in the corner office area you are going to have a hard time finding a job. I work for a company in the fortune top 5 that is very stable. Yet this economy is hitting us also. They are going to cut my office way back from 500 people to 200 by the end of the year. They will offer me a job in Houston as they can always find a spot for a cisco network engineer. My boss and a lot of other are really scrambling. There are no jobs in the local market and less chances of them finding a place in another part of the company as they are cutting back everywhere. Just some food for thought. From: nrf Reply-To: nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809] Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:37:51 -0400 Drew wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sean Knox wrote: I was actually heading towards my CCIE, but after getting my CCNP, I am content with that for now and and getting more experience (fortunately I am not some new wide-eyed kid in the field and have been doing this awhile). Congrats on your decision to pursue your MBA and I wish you luck. I made a similar decision myself within the last few weeks. I had planned on pursuing my CCIE-Security, but realize that I don't work enough with Cisco products on a daily basis, and certainly not with routing in a complex way, to feel that I would deserve the cert, even if I attained it. I'm going back to school for my MS in CS, starting classes in June. I think in the long run, an advanced degree is more of a benefit than an advanced vendor cert. But thats just me. Exactly. Especially later in your life. Fiddling with Cisco boxes might be cool now, but do you still want to be doing that when you're 50? Probably not, you probably want to be sitting in a director's chair ordering other young guys to set up the systems. It's hard to win promotion to that chair without an advanced education. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=42008t=41809 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]
No, we upgraded it ourselves Rico, I was there throughout the ninetieswe
went from Banyan environments to IP (Unix/NT).
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Rico Ortiz
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 6:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]
When I was in the Marines (about 10 yrs ago) the used Banyard Vines for
there networks. I believe EDS has been hired to upgrade there current
network to an IP setup.. Rico
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]
And I've heard that the US side in Desert Storm used Banyan for their
networking systems, not TCP/IP!?
Priscilla
At 12:05 PM 3/28/02, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
Thats what the DoD taught in their DataCommunications Schools. Sorry
Dom.
Absolutely, positively wrong, though. That's an urban legend that has
been disavowed by every early developer I can think of, including the
DARPA people. It developed out of pure DARPA sponsored research in
networking.
I'm hard-pressed to think of any nuclear command control
communications system, before the mid-80's or so, that used TCP/IP,
and at one time I knew pretty much every system that was deployed.
Among the ones I can talk about, they were circuit-switched or radio.
Some of the circuit-switched networks were computer controlled,
including AUTODIN I and a variety of intelligent networks.
Without detailed research, I'd tend to say the first military TCP/IP
applications were in tactical, not strategic, nets.
Actually, the first demonstration that packet switched networks were
resilient to massive attack came from the Iraqi air defense system in
Desert Storm.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Chuck
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]
the real reason being.?
wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Sorry, the
be resilient to Global Thermal Nuclear attacks
is a myth.
Dom Stocqueler
William
Gragido To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TCP/IP and DOD
[7:39657]
Sent
by:
nobody@groups
tudy.com
27/03/2002
20:17
Please
respond
to
William
Gragido
The DoD adopted TCP/IP as its native protocol for communications in
1983.
DARPA lead the charge for a communications system that would be
resilient
to
Global Thermal Nuclear attacks (therein allowing for continued,
uninterrupted comm), and would allow for common connectivity of
multi-vendor
solutions. This of course did yield 'ARPA NET' which, by a decision
of
the
DCA (Defense Communications Agency), in 1983 was split in two yielding
a
smaller version of 'ARPA NET' and 'MILNET'. The evolution of the
modern
internet can followed done the line from 'ARPA NET' and as we all know
by
virtue of adding new networks to the mix, 'ARPA NET' was de-regulated
in
1991 ushering the age of the modern internet.
Hope that helps,
Will Gragido
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Michael Williams
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]
It's kinda fuzzy. I myself just got through doing a tech review of a
book
covering this topic as well as have written my own materials for
training,
etc covering this topic. IMHO, DoD is credited with creating the
internet
even though at the time it wasn't called the internet and didn't use
the
same protocols we do now. Although the DoD started the whole mess,
from
what I've read DoD commisioned ARPANET to research this. I'm sure
that
peoples are various universities and colleges were in on the actual
deveopment evidenced by the fact that in 1971 there were 15 nodes
(with a
total of 23 hosts), namely UCLA, SRI, UCSB, U of Utah, BBN, MIT, RAND,
SDC,
Harvard, Lincoln Lab, Stanford, UIU(C), CWRU, CMU, and NASA/Ames.
Note
most
of those listed are colleges/universities. I've read some about BBN,
however
it seems to me their main role was to supply the first computers
(Honeywell 516 mini computers with 12K of memory) that acted as
Information
Message Processors (IMPs) (routers?).
However, I would humbly suggest that Howard B. or Priscilla O. throw
their
2
cents in here.
Also, since your doing a technical edit, be careful of the words you
choose
as well. For example you use the word written over and over above,
but
I
don't think the conversation is really about which pro
RE: Intusion Detection and IT Security [7:40337]
thats a great book, there are also some good docs on www.infosyssec.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Borghese Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Intusion Detection and IT Security [7:40337] Check out Network Intrusion Detection an Analyst Handbook by Stephen Northcutt. Paul Borghese - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:53 AM Subject: Intusion Detection and IT Security [7:40337] Does anyone have a suggestion on good books for learning about Intrusion Detection and IT Security for a beginner? The books don't necesarily have to be Cisco based, but more on the basics of Intrusion Detection and IT Security concepts and tools used. Thanks in advance _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40396t=40337 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
Here is my list for the CID: DCN Padjen book Top Down -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] At 10:03 PM 4/1/02, Robert Padjen wrote: Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine ( ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. I'm sure you'll get flamed for advertising your own book, but I'm going to give you a hard time also for lack of accuracy. ;-) Top-Down Network Design is not a certification book, but it is based on the work I did on both the Designing Cisco Networks (DCN) and the Cisco Internetwork Design (CID) training classes when I worked for Cisco. I have heard that Cisco has made CID match my Top-Down Network Design book even more closely than before. I know for a fact that the description of the CID course is taken from my Top-Down Network Design book. I did a double-take when I read the following text from the description of the CID class here: http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours eDescCOURSE_ID=321 Good internetwork design recognizes a customer's requirements embody many business and technical goals, including requirements for availability, scalability, affordability, security, and manageability. Difficult internetwork design choices and tradeoffs must be made when designing the internetwork before any physical devices or media are selected. CID covers typical internetwork design business and technical goals and constraints. CID details the top-down design process and the importance of using systematic methods for internetwork design. Using systematic methods helps you, the internetwork designer, to keep pace with changing technologies and customer requirements. I said to myself, Hey I wrote that. Oh yeah, I should have had a lawyer look at my book contract. Cisco can use anything I wrote in the book. Bummer. or maybe not?? ;-] Priscilla To save a buck, if you feel comfortable with the material, you may want to forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books are out there too). The new test might focus on multicast more than the books reflect, and they may have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough. 640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still the current version. Good luck. --- Andy Barkl wrote: The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID exam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40199t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
I have that book, it is great! Robert does an excellent job outlining the intricacies of the CID. I am taking soon, (probably in May after the CISSP). Thanks for the great book Robert! Regards, Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Padjen Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 9:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine ( ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. To save a buck, if you feel comfortable with the material, you may want to forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books are out there too). The new test might focus on multicast more than the books reflect, and they may have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough. 640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still the current version. Good luck. --- Andy Barkl wrote: The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID exam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40198t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]
Yes, thats true, we ran Banyon Vines, the USMC that is in addition to
various Unix variants.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]
And I've heard that the US side in Desert Storm used Banyan for their
networking systems, not TCP/IP!?
Priscilla
At 12:05 PM 3/28/02, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
Thats what the DoD taught in their DataCommunications Schools. Sorry
Dom.
Absolutely, positively wrong, though. That's an urban legend that has
been disavowed by every early developer I can think of, including the
DARPA people. It developed out of pure DARPA sponsored research in
networking.
I'm hard-pressed to think of any nuclear command control
communications system, before the mid-80's or so, that used TCP/IP,
and at one time I knew pretty much every system that was deployed.
Among the ones I can talk about, they were circuit-switched or radio.
Some of the circuit-switched networks were computer controlled,
including AUTODIN I and a variety of intelligent networks.
Without detailed research, I'd tend to say the first military TCP/IP
applications were in tactical, not strategic, nets.
Actually, the first demonstration that packet switched networks were
resilient to massive attack came from the Iraqi air defense system in
Desert Storm.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Chuck
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]
the real reason being.?
wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Sorry, the
be resilient to Global Thermal Nuclear attacks
is a myth.
Dom Stocqueler
William
Gragido To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TCP/IP and DOD
[7:39657]
Sent
by:
nobody@groups
tudy.com
27/03/2002
20:17
Please
respond
to
William
Gragido
The DoD adopted TCP/IP as its native protocol for communications in
1983.
DARPA lead the charge for a communications system that would be
resilient
to
Global Thermal Nuclear attacks (therein allowing for continued,
uninterrupted comm), and would allow for common connectivity of
multi-vendor
solutions. This of course did yield 'ARPA NET' which, by a decision
of
the
DCA (Defense Communications Agency), in 1983 was split in two yielding
a
smaller version of 'ARPA NET' and 'MILNET'. The evolution of the
modern
internet can followed done the line from 'ARPA NET' and as we all know
by
virtue of adding new networks to the mix, 'ARPA NET' was de-regulated
in
1991 ushering the age of the modern internet.
Hope that helps,
Will Gragido
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Michael Williams
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]
It's kinda fuzzy. I myself just got through doing a tech review of a
book
covering this topic as well as have written my own materials for
training,
etc covering this topic. IMHO, DoD is credited with creating the
internet
even though at the time it wasn't called the internet and didn't use
the
same protocols we do now. Although the DoD started the whole mess,
from
what I've read DoD commisioned ARPANET to research this. I'm sure
that
peoples are various universities and colleges were in on the actual
deveopment evidenced by the fact that in 1971 there were 15 nodes
(with a
total of 23 hosts), namely UCLA, SRI, UCSB, U of Utah, BBN, MIT, RAND,
SDC,
Harvard, Lincoln Lab, Stanford, UIU(C), CWRU, CMU, and NASA/Ames.
Note
most
of those listed are colleges/universities. I've read some about BBN,
however
it seems to me their main role was to supply the first computers
(Honeywell 516 mini computers with 12K of memory) that acted as
Information
Message Processors (IMPs) (routers?).
However, I would humbly suggest that Howard B. or Priscilla O. throw
their
2
cents in here.
Also, since your doing a technical edit, be careful of the words you
choose
as well. For example you use the word written over and over above,
but
I
don't think the conversation is really about which programmers
actually
wrote the code it's more about who either spearheaded or caused the
evolution of the *standards* we call TCP/IP in which case I don't
think
crediting the DoD is incorrect.
My 2 cents =)
Mike W.
Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com
Message Posted at:
http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=3983
RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657]
The DoD adopted TCP/IP as its native protocol for communications in 1983. DARPA lead the charge for a communications system that would be resilient to Global Thermal Nuclear attacks (therein allowing for continued, uninterrupted comm), and would allow for common connectivity of multi-vendor solutions. This of course did yield 'ARPA NET' which, by a decision of the DCA (Defense Communications Agency), in 1983 was split in two yielding a smaller version of 'ARPA NET' and 'MILNET'. The evolution of the modern internet can followed done the line from 'ARPA NET' and as we all know by virtue of adding new networks to the mix, 'ARPA NET' was de-regulated in 1991 ushering the age of the modern internet. Hope that helps, Will Gragido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Williams Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: TCP/IP and DOD [7:39657] It's kinda fuzzy. I myself just got through doing a tech review of a book covering this topic as well as have written my own materials for training, etc covering this topic. IMHO, DoD is credited with creating the internet even though at the time it wasn't called the internet and didn't use the same protocols we do now. Although the DoD started the whole mess, from what I've read DoD commisioned ARPANET to research this. I'm sure that peoples are various universities and colleges were in on the actual deveopment evidenced by the fact that in 1971 there were 15 nodes (with a total of 23 hosts), namely UCLA, SRI, UCSB, U of Utah, BBN, MIT, RAND, SDC, Harvard, Lincoln Lab, Stanford, UIU(C), CWRU, CMU, and NASA/Ames. Note most of those listed are colleges/universities. I've read some about BBN, however it seems to me their main role was to supply the first computers (Honeywell 516 mini computers with 12K of memory) that acted as Information Message Processors (IMPs) (routers?). However, I would humbly suggest that Howard B. or Priscilla O. throw their 2 cents in here. Also, since your doing a technical edit, be careful of the words you choose as well. For example you use the word written over and over above, but I don't think the conversation is really about which programmers actually wrote the code it's more about who either spearheaded or caused the evolution of the *standards* we call TCP/IP in which case I don't think crediting the DoD is incorrect. My 2 cents =) Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=39677t=39657 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Who is Priscilla Oppenheimer ? [7:38662]
LOL. Hey Priscilla, who are you anyways ;-) What was the name of that book you authored? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of dk Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Who is Priscilla Oppenheimer ? [7:38662] Who is this mystery woman .. who seems to know everything ! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38677t=38662 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: you American need to think [7:38323]
That is an excellent point! As if that diet coke will really help! Pleaase! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of QOSMAN Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: you American need to think [7:38323] Correctonly in America we order a double-cheese burger, large fries and a Diet Coke :) Mike Sweeney wrote: I think you folks are missing a valuable point and lesson here. The real point has nothing to do with if *Jim* is correct, a flame baiter, a pond scum commie or my best friend.. it does have everything to do with something that America is pretty unique about having for US living here. THe ablility to say virtually ANYTHING you want without fear of the jackboot crowd coming to visit you and inform you of the error of your ways. Unintentionly *Jim* has reminded us.. or should remind us that America for all it's faults is still the one place that people to this day DIE to try to get to. Why? because Americans come close to being free in the true sense of the word. You can buy what you want, pick and choose what you want, sponge off your neighbors, have 8 SUVs, and SAY pretty much what you want. Oh, there may be repercussions of saying things.. but most times the police are not going to shoot you down in the street(Kent State excepted) or have you *disappear*(watch of the unmarked black helicopters) So *Jim*.. bad mouth us all you want and personally I will enjoy the fact that I live in a place where I can read your rants, reply to them or delete them without fear. Long live the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. May we remember why they exist and people die for those beliefs. MikeS www.packetattack.com PS-- for those that seem to care.. I am neither Right or Left.. I happen to Libertarian which puts me outside of the box :) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38680t=38323 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Who is Priscilla Oppenheimer ? [7:38662]
Top Down Network DesignNo worries Larry, we still love you man! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry Letterman Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Who is Priscilla Oppenheimer ? [7:38662] check out her book cisco press book, top down networking..Sorry if the title is not exactly correct, its not in front of me... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of dk Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Who is Priscilla Oppenheimer ? [7:38662] Who is this mystery woman .. who seems to know everything ! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38689t=38662 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: you American need to think [7:38323]
What in hell's bells does this have to do with studying Internetworking technologies? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott H. Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: you American need to think [7:38323] Crawl back into that hole you came out of. Nobody wants to listen to your B.S. Jim Bond wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sorry for wasting your bandwidth, but I have to say this. Being rich is good; being smart is good. But if you treat others like sxxt, others will treat you like sxxt too. Think about this: if you are a CCNA and your CCIE co-worker say your stupid or dumb, will you respect him? There are so many knowledgeable and friendly people on this list, but there are some rude and arrogant people too. I agree that Bin Laden is a murderer, an evil, but you American need to think why he only attacks US, not Germany or Russia or Japan or others. Show some respect to others, it won't make you poor. Also remember that there are always someone richer and smarter than you. Over. Dismiss. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38413t=38323 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Recommending Books for CCIE [7:38295]
I would recommend having them all in your arsenal. They are great refernce tools and it has just been brought to my attention that Brad Ellis and Co., have a new one out that I will be checking out soon as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of norco Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Recommending Books for CCIE [7:38295] For the written i probably wouldn;t go with either of Doyles books - save those for the lab!! :) The best book is the Caslow book, followed by either the Exam Cram or the Sybex book (neither of these books are particularly brilliant in their own write - pardon the pun!but are tailored to the exam and are good as a revision). norco wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Would anyone recommend book(s) to study fo CCIE writen exam? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38414t=38295 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: another CCNP [7:38269]
Welcome to the club! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael J. Doherty Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another CCNP [7:38269] Congratulations!! - Original Message - From: King, Ty To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:57 PM Subject: another CCNP [7:38269] Just passed my last test today. Ty King _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38283t=38269 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Recommending Books for CCIE [7:38295]
I have heard good things about the Exam Cram. If you don't have them already, i would pick up the Caslow and Doyle books as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recommending Books for CCIE [7:38295] Would anyone recommend book(s) to study fo CCIE writen exam? Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38303t=38295 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
A fellow that I work with just took the CCNA today, it is currently still testing at the 507 level. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of VanHaaren, Nicole Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] A friend of mine just scheduled hers today, but is still taking the 640-507 test. Nicole VanHaaren, CCNP, CCSE Systems Consultant Broadwing Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I think this is a great idea. However, I'm halfway thru my CCNP certification. Is it going to be necessary or advisable to recert in the 600 track? Please advise. Jeff +++The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document.+++ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37993t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Appletalk in CIT beta ? [7:37650]
You will want to know and understand the fundamentals of Appletalk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Constantin Tivig Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 6:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Appletalk in CIT beta ? [7:37650] Well, it's time for me to take the CIT beta. Question: how much AppleTalk is in there ? Are there many q on this topic? Unfortunately I have 0 experience w/ AppleTalk, so I am very concerned. All the best, Costin Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37660t=37650 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE program will be dropping token ring! [7:37422]
AWESOME -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven A. Ridder Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE program will be dropping token ring! [7:37422] I'm in a meeting with the CCIE program manager and they will be removing Token-ring soon! -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Scott H. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Not that bad. A bunch of dates open in March and April in San Jose--if you can't do that, you are screwed until August. The one thing that I have noticed is that when people get within their 28 day window, they drop their date. This opens up dates for the more serious contenders. Best of luck! Scott AMR wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... What's the wait time like nowadays? -A Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37436t=37422 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID exam has changed [7:37074]
WOO WHOOO I am taking in it two weeks, I hate SNA!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID exam has changed [7:37074] The CID exam was recently updated. The new objectives are on the web site. The SNA and extensive ATM coverage is gone. Also Appletalk, IPX, DLSW, are gone as well. The exam is 90 minutes long with 75 questions and the passing score is 755. The Cisco Press CID study guide is OK but the CID exam guide is terrible. They both have extensive SNA coverage, but like I said, is not part of the exam any longer. I highly recommend the Top-Down Network Design book as the new CID guide. Besides being a great book, it has all that you'll need for the CID exam provided you are a CCNP. In my opinion, the new CID exam is not anymore difficult than the CCNP exams. Good luck to you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37077t=37074 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Security Design - PIX or Whatever [7:36677]
The only difference is that those organizations (physicians as well), will held accountable for violation of HIPPA and face fines and potentially jail time :-( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Security Design - PIX or Whatever [7:36677] Lets not forget politcal concerns when trying do a reasonable level of security. I worked a healthcare provider and boy, you should have heard the Docs squawk about passwords and pin codes for access to the primary LAN/WAN... to the point that admin overruled the IS dept and special *permission* not to use the security procedures... happens every day.. MikeS ' Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36684t=36677 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Security Design - PIX or Whatever [7:36677]
The standards are constantly being revised. Reality is, however, that for those involved in any facit of the medical/healthcare industry there is no escaping it. Bad practices or negligence will only result in the additional issues (both financial and otherwise), for failure to comply. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Security Design - PIX or Whatever [7:36677] don't even get me started on this. I work for an organization that uses employee SSN numbers for validation purposes in a lot of instances. So when I call the Help Desk to complain about e-mail ( an ongoing problem ) I am asked to provide my SSN to the folks there. In these days of rampant and easy identity theft, how smart is it to allow access to a large database of valid SSN's to practically everyone who asks? HIPAA??? isn't that on hold for review? You know, I was reading through one of the drafts and I thought I saw something that floored me - the regulators were stating that multiplexed links such as frame relay and ATM were considered unsecure because different organizations were sharing circuits. The implication was that healthcare organizations would have to move to point to point technologies - most of which end up passing through ATM backbones anyway. Sheesh. Longer term I believe that security solutions will involve end to end encryption - server to host, on the LAN as well as the WAN, in addition to what is already done on VPN's. I always liked the HIPAA provision about management responsibility and management fines and jail time for failure to comply. Wish that were so in a lot of other industries where I have worked. ;- Chuck William Gragido wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The only difference is that those organizations (physicians as well), will held accountable for violation of HIPPA and face fines and potentially jail time :-( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Security Design - PIX or Whatever [7:36677] Lets not forget politcal concerns when trying do a reasonable level of security. I worked a healthcare provider and boy, you should have heard the Docs squawk about passwords and pin codes for access to the primary LAN/WAN... to the point that admin overruled the IS dept and special *permission* not to use the security procedures... happens every day.. MikeS ' Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36695t=36677 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cissps [7:36391]
The answer is yes provided that you are qualified and meet the expecatations of the ISC2. I am sitting for the exam in May, here in Chicago, and I would say in my humble opinion that its a great field of study. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Sweeting Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cissps [7:36391] Is Cissp worth getting? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=36552t=36391 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Network Security [7:35783]
Rodney, War Dialers are used to identify analog modems and isdn modems that may be a point of concern within an organization, specifically if they are not monitored or accounted for. Unless you have a ton of them out on your network, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Its a good idea to conduct an assessment though and evaluate where your organization is from a security perspective and see if change is warranted. Later, Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rodney Jackson Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Network Security [7:35783] Has anyone ever used a war dialer and if so would you please give me some feed back? I'm concerned about the free ware having back doors do you think that a legitimate concern? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35795t=35783 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Network Security [7:35783]
They are not out of style per se. We use them when performing security assessments of client environments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven A. Ridder Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Network Security [7:35783] Perhaps. A war dialer is a phreaking tool used on the old days to dial number to try and discover modems. My friends used to use them. Rodney Jackson wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Has anyone ever used a war dialer and if so would you please give me some feed back? I'm concerned about the free ware having back doors do you think that a legitimate concern? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35797t=35783 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Secret Clearance? [7:4152]
Well, since this is obviously a never ending thread I'll add my 2 cents. I have a Top Secret SCI that is still valid from my active duty period in the USMC. In regards to joining the service just to get a clearance, I'd say thats some of the most low brow thinking that I've ever heard. There are no guarantees that you'll get one. It all depends on the investigation and what they unearth, so don't be fooled into thinking that simply by selecting an MOS that requires a clearance you'll automatically qualify. Its not the case. I saw Marines go through schools only to be turned down for clearances. I was lucky and had nothing in my background that would prohibit my from obtaining one, but again, it all depends on what one's civilian life is compromised of that helps dictates whehter or not a person rates one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Faubion Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 10:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Secret Clearance? [7:4152] Ohh that's a good idea, then when you get orders to Bosnia, Somalia, Kuwait, or Afghanistan, you can be like the whiners of Desert Storm that cried about joining to get an education, not to go to war. Only this time it will be about getting a security clearance instead of going to war! While you can get a security clearance in the military, it is not valid after leaving the military unless it is documented correctly. However the reinstatement cost can be drastically reduced since the previous leg work has already been done. John - Original Message - From: Steven A. Ridder To: Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 7:52 PM Subject: Re: Secret Clearance? [7:4152] 80K!!! You could always do what I did and join the Army. If you pick a good MOS, you'll get a secret clearance for free while you are in Basic or AIT. Some jobs I'm sure will give you a top secret if needed. I bet just joining the reserves would get you a secret if the MOS called for it. Julian Eccli wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A secret clearance can cost somewhere between $50K-$80K to get all the proper paper work and verifications done, hence why they want you to have it already :) -Julian Patrick Ramsey wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... not to mention that if they say it is required they probably do not want to pay the $$$ to have it done...hence the required portion of the job description. - Patrick Craig Columbus 02/09/02 15:38 PM Check the archives of the list. This has been discussed many, many times. Craig At 11:04 AM 2/9/2002 -0500, you wrote: So how does one gain Secret Clearance? --- Jeff D wrote: The contractor has no say in it. If the government says you need a clearance to enter the building, then you have to have one, period. Why waste your time if you don't? Jeff wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... this Clearance thing is kind of funny. I think they should screen someone who is qulaified for the position even if they dont have the Clearance. = Paul M. Immo CCDP, CCNP, CCIE Written, MCSE (248)634-3362 Home (248)343-0440 Cell View my Resume online: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/paulimmo Imagination is more important than knowledge Albert Einstein __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com Confidentiality DisclaimerThis email and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and /or proprietary information in the possession of WellStar Health System, Inc. (WellStar) and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom addressed. This email may contain information that is held to be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized access, dissemination, distribution or copying of any information from this email is strictly prohibited, and may subject you to criminal and/or civil liability. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and then delete this email and its attachments from your computer. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=35097t=4152 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CIT Test [7:34856]
When I took it, I thought it was not the most difficult one that I had taken. Its broad though, covers a lot of things but not too terrible. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Barnes Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CIT Test [7:34856] I know that folks have asked about this test, but I am taking it Thursday, I would like to know of the people who thought that it was the hardest test, did you also feel it was equally hard to study for? I am studying through the book and BOSON, and quite honestly I think that this part comes natural to me. I certainly don't want to underestimate the test. ( I don't think I will) but I would like some feedback on this. Let me know if you guys remember how you felt. [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34862t=34856 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Access Lists [7:34023]
Thats one of my favorites as well. Its well written and detailed, and most importantly concise. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of kevhed Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Access Lists [7:34023] Tim, IMHO, you can't go wrong with Cisco Access Lists by Gil Held Kent Hundley isbn 0072123354. This is one of the few books I keep close by. Kevin Fermanis Tim G Contr USAFE CSS/SCOG wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm looking to buy a book on Access lists. Any recommendations? TIA Tim Fermanis GCCS System Administrator Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34093t=34023 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899]
LOL. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Carr Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work experience. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33914t=33899 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899]
No, not at all. Here's my take on this. First off: No company in their right minds will take a 'CCIE with no work experience' and pay him/her top dollar or anything even near the perimeter of top dollar. Why might you ask? Due to the impracticality of such an undertaking. There is a possibility that a VAR might do so only to further garnish their relationship with the Vendor, but I still feel that it is unlikely. Secondly, what in your humble/honest opinion do you perceive a CCIE with no work experience is worth? Be honest, be truthful. This may be a difficult concept to face but reality tells me after being in this biz my entire adult life that a person with this certification and no practical experience is an entry level person who shows promise and got lucky. My two cents, Regards, Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott M. Trieste Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Am I not the only one that is insulted by this question?? Joe Carr wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work experience. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33959t=33899 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Recent One-Day Lab Takers?? [7:33592]
INS used to do that as well, hell we used to have free soda, food and BEER! Ah...the glory days -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven A. Ridder Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Recent One-Day Lab Takers?? [7:33592] I love Cisco's free soda's and waters. It's got to be one of the best perks! McCallum, Robert wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Come on mate where's your sense of humour. BTW Jason is right the mouse new it was in for a hard time when it saw me so it bolted. As for Brussels you do not see any equipment, you are just sat in a classroom with keyboard, monitor, mouse (sometimes), pens, pencils, sharpener , rubber (eraser for the Americans) and paper. You can wander off at any time to get yourself a free can of coke or tea / coffee. I would advise this as you may as well bloat yourself with liquid as the lunch is a buffet selection of continental type rolls. For us Brits sweet rolls with some form of strange meat on them doesn't really appeal, in fact they were quite rancid. I couldn't find a decent roll despite my 6 times of trying. Next time I'm going to bring in a packed lunch, with a Capri Sun just for luck. Cat5000,Cat3924,2600's,3600. -Original Message- From: Cisco Nuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 January 2002 04:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Recent One-Day Lab Takers?? [7:33592] I had asked for some honest advice as to what router models I needed to 'simulate' the actual lab at home but alas...some people seem to have wasted their time in replying some irrelevant answers. Sad.. From: Louie Belt Reply-To: Louie Belt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Recent One-Day Lab Takers?? [7:33592] Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:57:21 -0500 You'll go blind if you touch your flux capacitor too much. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of c1sc0k1d Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Recent One-Day Lab Takers?? [7:33592] I saw my gear in RTP as well. Except in RTP they said not to touch the flux capacitor as the proctor already calibrated it before the lab started. Hire, Ejay wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm surprised. In san Jose, they are in big red/orange cabinets next to the cubicle you work in. You have to go over to the rack to check dial tone/ring on your VoIp Phone... and to align the flux capacitor. -Ejay -Original Message- From: McCallum, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 3:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Recent One-Day Lab Takers?? [7:33592] I never actually saw any equipment just a monitor and keyboard. I could hazzard a guess though that most of the equipment was Cisco. ;- -Original Message- From: Cisco Nuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 January 2002 19:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recent One-Day Lab Takers?? [7:33592] Hello, Has anyone is this group taken the new one-day lab recently? Wanted to know what kind of routers did you see, I mean is it now more than 6 routers or still just 6? What models? Is it 2 2513's or 2 2504's etc? And the switch, is it still the Cat5? Just wanted to gather this info. to build a lab and work on it..visualize that I am actually working on the real lab and busting my brains. Thank you Cisco :-) Thanks! _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33715t=33592 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Network Monitoring Tool [7:33544]
Solarwinds works well. But, Cheops is free ;-) -Original Message- From: Bond, Jeffrey T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:01 PM To: 'William Gragido'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Network Monitoring Tool [7:33544] I would say the best bang for your buck is Solarwinds Network Monitoring Tools at solarwinds.net which comes in different flavors depending on your job responsibilities. Jeff -Original Message- From: William Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Network Monitoring Tool [7:33544] How much budget do you have? If you have the budget, I'd say that Openview is stellar and for performance monitoring, VitalSuite is outstanding. If money is tight, Cheops works well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kwame Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Network Monitoring Tool [7:33544] Any recommendation for Network Monitoring Tools? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33597t=33544 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Config Maker Tutorial Error ! [7:33272]
For starters, you may want to check 'Bug Traq' to see if there have been any reports on this. You may also wish to perform a Windows update (depending on which variation you are running), to see if that fixes the issues as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ctopaloglu Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 11:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Config Maker Tutorial Error ! [7:33272] I have just installed Cisco ConfigMaker v2.5.1 It is pretty good software for newbies. But the tutorial part the standalone flash exe file is not working. It gives me an Visual C++ Runtime Library Error every operating system that I tried. What should I do ? Thanks for interested. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33444t=33272 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EtherChannel alternatives(??) [7:33187]
Chuck and C0., The policy may be in place in order to curtail some of the innate security flaws that VLANS allow for in network architectures. I have document (somewhere on this laptop), that explains the pros/cons of utilizing VLANs specifically from a Secure Architecture perspective. If anyone is interested, let me know and I will forward it to you. Regards, Will Gragido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EtherChannel alternatives(??) [7:33187] not commenting on the policy itself, but I'm wondering if you can explain why the anti-vlan policy exists? In all sincerity, I am curious as to the thought process. the why is generally more educational than the what Thanks Chuck John McCartney wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, I have a question regarding EtherChannel. Is there an alternative to EtherChannel that will give aggregation speeds that can be implemented on 6509's. The reason I can't use EtherChannel is that our corp policy forbids VLAN's so hence no EtherChannel. I have a customer who is currently on one 100MB F/E port and soon to be 3 (all using redundancy --HSPR) and they wanted to know if there is a way to aggregate the ports? The first thing I thought of was EtherChannel Any help is appreciated. Have a great weekend and GO EAGLES! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33207t=33187 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sniffers [7:31296]
Ethereal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rodrigues, Mario Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Sniffers [7:31296] What are the free sniffers that you suggest to use ? Regards, Mario Rodrigues -Original Message- From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 4:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sniffers [7:31296] I have experience with all sorts of ones, from Distributed Sniffer Pro 4.5 down to the free ones like ethereal and eEye's one. I like ethereal the best because it's so lightwweight (Sniffer is so taxing on PC's) and can read any prodect's cap files. It does everything you need. The only problem I have is that it dosen't recognize some packets like the LOOP packet on Cisco's ethernet ports. Sniffers DSS can be useful to grab stuff off of remote networks and they sell sniffer PC's with gig fiber cards in them to sniff backbone traffic if needed. Sniffer also has an expert mode that can be helpful with problems. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31306t=31296 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCNP Exams [7:30080]
Doyle's second edition is quite good as well, you may also want to invest in Caslow's book also. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stanton Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 1:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Passed CCNP Exams [7:30080] Thanks guys, those 2 books I memetioned above are 1. Routing TCP/IP Volume I (CCIE Professional Development) by Jeff Doyle 2. Internet Routing Architectures -- by Sam Halabi, Yatou Wu wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... congratulations! would you please tell me the exact titles of the two bibles you mentioned? thanks! Merry chrismas and happy new year! yatou From: Stanton Reply-To: Stanton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCNP Exams [7:30080] Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 11:59:10 -0500 Hi, Passed CIT yesterday with 942 and got my CCNP as a gift of X'mas for myself. I spent about 2 months to pass all the CCNP exams with good scores: Switching 946, Remote 920 and Routing 962. The books I used for preparation are focus on Cisco's Study Guide, and I think Lammle's book for CCNA is perfect, but the others are not good for CCNP. Boson's test questions are very good and cover almost all the topics reauired by the examinations. Furthermore, those 2 bibles from Doyle and Halabi are good for in-depth study. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year ! Shengtao CCNP _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=30193t=30080 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: network simulator [7:27658]
Anthony, Check out www.shunra.com they have a simulator called the 'Storm' that is awesome! It allows you to manipulate latency, jitter and packet loss. Its a hardware solution however I have seen a freeware version of this out on certain linux centrix sites. It works great though, I used it on a VoIP gig in order to perform proof of concept tasks. Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anthony Toh Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: network simulator [7:27658] Is there any router simulation software that I can configure to run in a Frame Relay and ISDN network ? Appreciate if anyone who knows can send me one. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=27829t=27658 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What's it worth... [7:27400]
Thats so truethere has been a real dis-service done to many of the certs and in truth, many of the training centers are responsible for this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What's it worth... [7:27400] I'll agree with that last statement. It used to be CCIE ment you knew your stuff and if all hell broke loose you could hang with the smoke. People are getting their CCIE in an attempt to get big bucks. I always here I need to get my CCIE and/or my MCSE to get into the computer feild. That's what happened to the CNE. People studied their little brains out, past the test but when the server crashed they had no experience to get it back up because as we all know there is a HUGE difference between the controlled lab and a real WAN. This made employers think why should I hire one of these guys if they can not even do what they are certified to do. The same thing happened to the MCSE which is one supposed reason MS has made it a hell of a lot harder to pass. My 2 cents, Steve -Original Message- From: Matthew Crane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 6:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What's it worth... [7:27400] to be a certified Cisco engineer ? Answer these days appears to be 'not a lot' I have been with 3 clients today who are all trying to recruit CCNP or CCIE staff and they had asked for help in the interview process. The followign is just one example of an interview, but it goes for all 3 and more. All goes well until the first CCIE candidate asks about money and was told its 60K (UK Sterling) no frills no overtime, maybe a car, but you only work at one site. This to work in London, where CCIE used to command 100K+ So I did some checking with some friends who work as recruitment consultants and yes 60-70K is topline now for a CCIE, and 30K for CCNP with 5 years experience, its a lot less without experience IF you get a job. The reasons behind this a. Recession - so everyone will run for cover and take a permanent job. b. CCIE's are plentiful and therefore cheap and CCNP's are even worse off Now this is the view from the employer(s). I can print here what the Cisco account manager(s) said to me afterwards as we talked on the train home, but they and some of their associates are taking the message back, 'we have got it wrong' in trying to turen out CCIE's too quickly. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=27481t=27400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Firewall newsgroup [7:27471]
www.greatcircle.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Firewall newsgroup [7:27471] Who know any firewall newsgroup? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=27480t=27471 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HSRP [7:27474]
There is a really great .PDF on Cisco's site regarding HSRP. I would recommend it! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HSRP [7:27474] Go to www.cisco.com and search for HSRP. You'll find more information that you could possibly use. If you still have problems after you've read through the configuration guides, let us know and we'd be glad to help you through it. Regards, john William 11/27/01 9:30:05 AM Pls advise how to config HSRP ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=27495t=27474 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Class C IP range! [7:26814]
I think what Howard is alluding to is that in most cases the push for IPv4 address space conservation has made it, in general , more difficult than it has been in the past to secure entire Class Cs. I agree with Howard that it is more prudent to design an interior IP schema using private addressing and then seek only routable, registered addresses for external Interfaces. My two cents. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of nrf Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Class C IP range! [7:26814] Howard, For the sake of IP address conservation, I would like to believe what you say. Unfortunately I happen to know several small companies that were able to secure entire Class C's with nary a protest from their ISP's, and yes they are all globally routed. The most addresses any one of those companies is using within that class range is 10 of those addresses - waste galore. Apparently many ISP's aren't as vigilant as they should be. Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... where can i get a class C ip address block ? I check everywhere everyone is saying they only provide a block of /19. Anyone can help ? Thanks Shella What do you want to do with it? In the real world, it can be very hard to get a provider-independent /24, and even harder to get it globally routed. Your best solution may be to design your environment to be renumbering-friendly, and get a /24 from your upstream provider. In general, you will have to demonstrate 50% immediate use of a /20 to get your own allocation. Incidentally, don't think Class C in getting assignments, think /24 (if that's what you actually need). Class-based allocation is long obsolete in the public network, regardless of what Cisco teaches in basic courses. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=27012t=26814 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Any security concerns if rsh enabled on Cisco routers [7:26853]
Yes. Anytime you enable any of the 'r' commands on any device you must be aware of the risks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of dovelet Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Any security concerns if rsh enabled on Cisco routers [7:26818] Hi all, I just find that Cisco routers can support rsh so that I can use a UNIX machine to remotely execute command. However, I would like to know is there any security holes if I enable rsh at Cisco routers? If so, how to improve it? Regards, Dovelet Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26853t=26853 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCNA!!!! [7:26759]
Congratulations Adrian, well done! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of adrian Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed CCNA [7:26759] Hi all Today I passed CCNA test. Thank you guys for all your advices, specially thanks to Bogdan Ungureanu who helped me a lot. The next step will be MCSE. Thanks again, Adrian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26762t=26759 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed CCIE written! [7:26765]
Me too Stefan, I am planning on taking it in December, but if the boson god's tell me to wait, I am waiting! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stefan Dozier Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Passed CCIE written! [7:26765] Congrats Tim! I'm studying for the written now...but I'm in no big hurry. Got this thing about doing it right, vice doing it twice! Stefan Hello all, I'm happy to report I passed my IE written just today. Whew!! Now on to the lab.. Kind Regards, Tim Booth MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26775t=26765 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Min router model to run BGP , OSPF , rip , eigrp and igrp [7:26480]
BGP on a 1750?? Maybe if it is being used in an internal architecture but if you intend to load the entire Internet Table (ie the thing is in excess of 30MB when loaded), then I'd look for a more robust device. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Min router model to run BGP , OSPF , rip , eigrp and igrp [7:26453] A 17xx would be OK, but also an 25xx. Important is of course that you have an enterprise image. suaveguru schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... hi all anyone has any idea what is the minimum router model I can buy to do BGP , OSPF, RIP ,EIGRP AND IGRP WiLL A 17XX be sufficient? regards, suaveguru __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26480t=26480 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Anybody know any good links for CISCO/IS-IS information? [7:26479]
IS-IS is used quite a bit in the military and oversees as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 8:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anybody know any good links for CISCO/IS-IS information? [7:26430] You might be surprised just how much IS-IS you understand, if you already have OSPF down. I think MCI is the ISP that still uses quite a bit of IS-IS within their network. http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/Support/PSP/psp_view.pl?p=Internetworking:ISIS All the best !!! Phil - Original Message - From: Howard C. Berkowitz To: Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:58 PM Subject: RE: Anybody know any good links for CISCO/IS-IS information? [7:26414] Next month's CertificationZone paper is Part 2 of Peter van Oene's ISIS, which will be available free for one month. Look around www.nanog.org. There are several presentations both by Cisco and Juniper. The Juniper stuff is relevant because Dave Katz wrote both the Cisco and Juniper ISIS code. The Best source of information that I have ever found on IS-IS is in Routing TCP/IP Version 1 by Jeff Doyle. Good resource! Adam Brzyski Design Engineer II CCIE #8082, NNCDE -Original Message- From: Paul Andersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anybody know any good links for CISCO/IS-IS information? Hey gang, Anyone know any good links, or where I can find out more info on using CISCO routers with IS-IS? Paul Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=26479t=26479 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: worst company [7:25033]
Checkout Intrusion.com's products @www.intrusion.com, they have nice Checkpoint FW-1 appliances available for relatively low cost. They are significantly less expensive than Nokia. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marshal Schoener Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: worst company [7:25033] Nokia's boxes are great, but if Checkpoint's prices are too high for you or your clients, how do you think they will feel putting the same license on a 10 thousand dollar Nokia box :-) We just purchased a new Nokia... $14,500... :) -Original Message- From: Jim Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT:RE: worst company [7:25033] All I use are Nokia's. It is a great appliance. Nokia recently changed their fee structure for direct support. I think your eyes might pop out of your head when it comes time to renew. -Original Message- From: Eric Rivard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: worst company [7:25033] I agree Checkpoint's support is terrible, and Cisco provides great support for any of their products. I like Checkpoint because how flexible it is, the features it provides and the great logging features of it. But it is very expensive. Most of my clients run a PIX as a firewall, mainly because of the price, but when my clients need to have a lot of functionality like multiple vpns, e-mail stripping, etc, Checkpoint is the best for that (my biased option. :) ). Although Checkpoint's support is terrible Nokia provides excellent support for Checkpoint. If you buy a Checkpoint firewall, I highly recommend running it on the Nokia IP platform because of how easy it is to set up and Nokia's support is great. They know more about Checkpoint than Checkpoints engineers do. Every time I have called Nokia, an engineer was on the phone resolving my issue in about 60 secs. Not only that but they are friendly too (something you don't see often.). -Original Message- From: root Sent: Fri 11/2/2001 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: worst company [7:25033] Marshal Schoener wrote: Agreed, however there is great 3rd party support available for Checkpoint from many vendors. UUNet has a very good support program for Checkpoint. No matter who is supporting it though, Checkpoint's license procedure is horrible! I once went 6 months from eval license to eval license because we couldn't get a permanent license to work properly. That being said, in my opinion, there is no better firewall. Regards, -Original Message- From: Jim Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: worst company [7:25033] CheckPoint = (great product) - (any support infrastructure). It is without a doubt the least supported product by a manufacturer I have ever seen. I have outstanding TAC cases over a year old! They charge a fortune for support and maintenance, which you must have, and you get nothing for it. The only thing that actually keeps it running are the private boards and mailing lists. It is extremely easy to use though and they own 60% of the market? There are things you can do with CheckPoint that Cisco cannot even begin to emulate. -Original Message- From: Jim Bond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: worst company [7:25033] Hello, I had a very bad experience with Checkpoint and am wondering if anyone had the same problem. One of my clients wanted to try Checkpoint VPN-1 so I filled out online eval form a month ago. A sales rep called me the next day and said a reseller would contact me in 5-10 days (5-10 minutes would make more sense). I didn't hear nothing in 3 weeks so I filled out online eval form again (I lost that rep's phone number) and another sales rep called me said the same thing. Now another week passed and I still didn't hear nothing. My client is very unhappy so he decide to go with Cisco. Is Checkpoint's business so good that they couldn't handle or what? Anyway, Checkpoint lost my client and I would never work with them again. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!?
RE: IP database application [7:24128]
QIP, NetID -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gibb, Jake Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP database application [7:24128] Does anyone have a good app for maintaining IP address information besides excel or notepad? Jake Gibb Kroll Senior Network Engineer 615.345.9880 (Office) 615.394.7887 (Cell) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24146t=24128 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Network utilization levels... [7:21884]
In order to accurately gauge a networks utilization you need to establish a baseline and from there evaluate over time, using tools such as VitalSuite, Concord or MTRG to verify your data. Once this is complete, trend analysis can begin and you can begin to formulate an accurate picture of your networks performance. There are, of course, other methods and tools that can be utilized for the purpose of performance engineering. If you are working with a specific application and its affect on overall network performance check out Optimal's Application Expert. HTH, Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Network utilization levels... [7:21884] what were your recommendations to alleviate the problem? what was the router model that was being overloaded? would route caching have been of value? Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Network utilization levels... [7:21884] One thing to keep in mind.. A percentage can lie about network performance. If you take a network with a low percentage of traffic based on byte count but a high number of small packets ( Citrix), you can easily have an overloaded router/switch but without the gross load on the wire you might expect. The overload comes from trying to process all the dinky packets which need to be checked, read, forwarded, folded etc. this really does happen as I just did an analysis on a Citrix server farm of over 30 servers hooked to a rather overloaded router. Fun traces showed up on that. MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22216t=21884 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written Security Book [7:22239]
Here is the $64,000 though, is it worth the money? Has anyone on the list used it to pass the written? I am interested, very interested in the book if it is truly worth the expense. Thanks, Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wright, Jeremy Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written Security Book [7:22239] Here is the link to the written security book that was floating around early. I'm leaning on going this direction along with some other books: http://www.optsys.net/specials.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22243t=22239 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written Security Book [7:22239]
No, no I am not questioning the source, what I am curious about is whether its really a good source. I am just trying to be cautions with the benjamins Jeremy ;-) I don't have too many of them to spread around so I like to make informed purchases. Thanks though, I am going to do further research on the matter. Will -Original Message- From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 12:55 PM To: 'William Gragido'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE Written Security Book [7:22239] Well, the question came about if there was a security book geared towards the ccie security written. I was just trying to help out a fellow team member with their searching. I have used this company before and have had much success with them, so I'm going in that direction. Thanks, Jeremy -Original Message- From: William Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 12:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: CCIE Written Security Book [7:22239] Here is the $64,000 though, is it worth the money? Has anyone on the list used it to pass the written? I am interested, very interested in the book if it is truly worth the expense. Thanks, Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wright, Jeremy Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written Security Book [7:22239] Here is the link to the written security book that was floating around early. I'm leaning on going this direction along with some other books: http://www.optsys.net/specials.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=22245t=22239 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:20173]
As a former United States Marine and one whom may well soon be called upon to once again ensure the liberty, freedom and safety of the United States I feel that Heather has brought up a valid point. The tragedy that occurred on Tuesday does indeed and will no doubt live on in our memories just as Pearl Harbor did in the memories of an an earlier generation. I feel though that it is not only important but necessary to curtail the hostility that some individuals are projecting towards a mass group. Here, in the United States of America, freedom and courage abound and have done so for generations. If we were to look back upon our nation and its history, I am sure that we would see that those who fought, bled and died for our nation as well as for others, were a splendid reminder of the diversity that is America---in race, creed and religion. My heart and prayers are with the nation and specifically with the families and friends of those individuals who were the victims of this act of cowardice. This being the case I encourage our nation to be strong and to not fall victim to mass hysteria by casting blame for the acts of a few onto a the masses. That being said, good luck and God Speed to all! And to all of my brothers in the United States Marine CorpsSemper Fi! Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Buri, Heather L. Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19845] I really had not intended to post anymore on non-Cisco topics on the list today since I feel I did enough of that yesterday, but I feel this cannot go without a response. Please people, try to contain and direct your anger to the individuals involved in this act. While they may have been of Muslim faith (albeit an extreme sect) PLEASE remember that not all Muslims share the views of a few radicals. I would hate to see hate-crimes against a religious group because of this. Lets take it back to Cisco now. Heather -Original Message- From: hal9001 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19819] Don't you mean the CULT of ALLAH..any so called religion that encourages this mayhem is a one way ticket to hell. Its nothing more than an evil cult! Karl - Original Message - From: John Mairs To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19726] aaammen! Allah be paved! --- ed smith wrote: Respectfully I would say,,, let people blow some steam off! Who the hell cares about CISCO right now? Ed From: Thad Gaston To: ed smith , Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679] Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:59:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [12.109.97.147] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBD69252000344136E8170C6D619313EB0; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:56:49 -0700 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:57:36 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679] Thread-Index: AcE71YI1yqc/7joNR3ugD6ApyYlA6wAAC/Bg All, I would discourage any further post regarding this topic as it becoming more and more useless and distracting. None of our sentiments are going to bring back the lives of those that have passed on nor bring about the justice the we all would like to see. Let's keep the list on track and get back to what this list is intended for. Regards, Thad Gaston -Original Message- From: ed smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679] That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! The people we see dancing in the streets of Palestine are brainwashed! The common person in the middle east would give anything to come and live in the U.S. and get out of their hell hole they call home. Believe me, I did 2 years there, it sucks!!! Nothing worth keeping in that part of the World. I don't see all those God forsaken countries having a problem with people wanting to immigrate there! If they believe they are God's chosen people, why didn't he make them from Hawaii, or Switzerland, or some other nice part of this World? They don't have the open airways or free flow of information to make logical decisions. They only believe what their ignorant and jealous leaders tell them.
RE: CCIP Exams [7:20154]
Shahid, would you mind letting me know what your thoughts on the betas for the CCIP? Thanks, Will -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shahid Muhammad Shafi Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIP Exams [7:20154] I am taking it in its beta form. I think in betas one get relativetly less score but its more fun. The books I am referring are: Deploying IP Multicast Networks by Beau Williamson IP Quality of Service by Srinivas Vegesna Routing TCP/IP Vol2 by Jeff Doyle Hope it helps Shahid Shafi --- Vijendra Jaiswal wrote: Pls let me know the available books for Multicast + QoS (641-905 ) Exam . This exam is in Beta form , is it advisable to take this exam in its present form or should one wait for this exam to included in the regular exam . Thanks Vijendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Shahid Muhammad Shafi Network Engineer Level(3) Communications MCSE+I/MCSE(Win2K),CNA,CCNP,CCDP Please help feed hungry people worldwide http://www.hungersite.com/ A small thing each of us can do to help others less fortunate than ourselves __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=20179t=20154 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Memory [7:19758]
Does Kingston make PIX Flash upgrades as well? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Memory [7:19758] i just recently upgraded the flash on a 2511, i could find flash from ciso , dont know why? so i was recommended a kingston flash, i installed it and it worked fine. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Richs Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 7:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Memory [7:19758] I need to get some feedback on the type of memory to put into a Cisco equipment. Two of the most popular are Cisco memory and Kingston. Of course Cisco is a lot more expensive than Kingston. Which memory do you recommended getting and are there any issues with getting Kingston. By issues I mean are there any known bugs, compatibility, etc. Thanks. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=19784t=19758 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: how to make a router firewall? [7:18268]
The firewall IOS is quite good however, if you do not wish to utilize it you can simply create ACLs that reflect your desires accordingly. ACLs are in laymans terms, the low brow fire wall rule set so have at it! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Bond Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: how to make a router firewall? [7:18268] Hello, I'm trying to make a 1720 router as firewall. What IOS should I use? What ACLs should I put in the router? My understanding on firewall is to allow outgoing traffic and block incoming traffic unless it's originated from inside, is it correct? Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=18650t=18268 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Training [7:16684]
I just got the advertisement from Global Knowledge, sounds like a good time. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Chang Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Training [7:16684] Ultimate Hacking New York, NY 08/28/01 08/31/01 $3995 San Jose, CA 09/11/01 09/14/01 $3995 Boston, MA 09/18/01 09/21/01 $3995 Irvine, CA 10/08/01 10/11/01 $3995 NT/2000 Security New York, NY 09/25/01 09/27/01 $2500 Irvine, CA 12/11/01 12/13/01 $2500 Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 9/17/2001 Irvine, CA Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 9/24/2001 San Jose, CA Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 10/1/2001 Denver, CO Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 10/8/2001 Phoenix, AZ Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 10/15/2001 Seattle-Bellevue, WA Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 10/22/2001 Salt Lake City, UT Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 10/29/2001 Irvine, CA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=16689t=16684 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
