Re: IP services, from case study ... [7:73435]

2003-08-03 Thread Groupstudy
b) service hide-telnet-addresses

something like that ? There must be at least one other way to hide telnet
address..but cant recall

rgds,
Hannes Kumari

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Subject: Re: IP services, from case study ... [7:73435]


 a) look at menu command options.
 b) could not get the question
 c) map your local IP to local DLCI
 d) is this back to back, then put the clock rate command where the DCE
cable
 is connected

 Regards

 De
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 From: Shab Hanon
 To:
 Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 12:04 PM
 Subject: IP services, from case study ... [7:73435]


  Hi,
  This is from a case study  Can any one help on these ?
 
 
 
  a)  Setup Rxx such that when a user telnets to it they will receive a
menu
  system that consists of the following options.
 
  Ability to display the IP routing table
  Ability to clear the IP routing table
  Ability to print off a Cisco TAC troubleshooting screen
  Exit to command line interface
 
 
 
  b)  When issuing a telnet session from Rxx ensure that the destination
IP
  address is not shown in the display.
 
 
  c)  R1, R2  R6 are not allowed subinterfaces on the frame-relay network
  that commonly connects them. R1, R2, R5 and R6 should be able to ping
 their
  own interfaces.
 
   how it can be possible to ping it their own interfaces on a serial ???

 
 
  d) Make sure the frame-relay connection between R1 and R2 has a speed of
  128k
 
 
 
  Cheers,
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Re: CCO Owners request [7:64290]

2003-03-03 Thread groupstudy
www.aletoledo.com/modemcap.pdf



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 http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/76/4.html


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Re: CCO Owners request [7:64290]

2003-03-03 Thread groupstudy
ooops sorry

ftp://aletoledo.com/modemcap.pdf


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  Ill be appreciated if someone who has a CCO get this page for me
regarding
  Modemcap and Modem inistazization strings
  http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/76/4.html
 
 
  Regards
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Re: Dropped Packet on 6506 switch [7:63053]

2003-03-01 Thread Groupstudy Spam Test
- Original Message -
From: MADMAN 
To: The Long and Winding Road 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 February, 2003 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: Dropped Packet on 6506 switch [7:63053]




 The Long and Winding Road wrote:
  hey, Dave, request for clarification
 
 
  whenever I run my config tools ( either CCO or NetFormX, which validates
  against Cisco's config server anyway ), the requirement is CAT OS plus
IOS.
  I can go CAT OS only, but I cannot get a validation using IOS only.

I Don't use the config tool, sounds like it is probably just as well:)

 
  So is that an error in the validation engine? or is something else going
on
  that I don't understand.

Send me the URL you use for this tool, I'll take a look at it.


in case anyone is still wondering, I've been doing some more work involving
configuring 65xx switches using the config tools. I think I get it now.

a 65xx switch can run native IOS on a regular old sup with MSFC

OR

it can run Cat OS ( on a regular old supervisor )

OR

it can run hybrid mode, using Cat OS on the sup and an L3 IOS on the MSFC
card


does that match with what you know, Dave?




 
  on a 3550, I can configure all ports as routed ports, or I can configure
all
  ports as switched ports, or any combination.

6500 running native you can do the same.

 
  The 4xxx boxes with sup 3 or better can go IOS only.

6500 in native mode looks like the 4000 with a supIII except the 4000
 with a supIII, all ports are L2 by default and on a 6500 runing native
 they are L3, go figure.  With the introduction of the 4500 switch the
 6500 is the only platform running catOS that is being produced.

 
  The 65xx seems to be the problem child, as anyone who has stumbled
through
  either tool mentioned above can attest to.

Check out this URL:


http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/switches/ps700/products_tech
_note09186a00801350b8.shtml

Dave



 
  any clarifications you can offer?
 
 
 
  MADMAN  wrote in message
  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The Long and Winding Road wrote:
 
 
 65xx without the MSFC card run Cat OS mode. Add the MSCF card, and you
 
  have
 
 hybrid mode. unless somethng has changed recently, you cannot run a
65xx
 
  in
 
 native IOS mode only - it has to be an L2 box alone, or a hybrid box,
 running IOS and Cat OS.
 
Actually you can run a 6500 in native only.  In native mode all ports
 are layer 3 ports.  In fact in order to run most of the OSM cards you
 must run native mode, the inverse is true for most voice modules.
 
Dave
 
 Native6506#sh ver
 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) c6sup2_rp Software (c6sup2_rp-JS-M), Version 12.1(13)E, EARLY
 DEPLOYMEN
 T RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
 TAC Support: http://www.cisco.com/tac
 Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Wed 04-Sep-02 18:45 by eaarmas
 Image text-base: 0x40008C00, data-base: 0x41A68000
 
 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.1(4r)E, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
 BOOTLDR: c6sup2_rp Software (c6sup2_rp-JS-M), Version 12.1(13)E, EARLY
 DEPLOYMEN
 T RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
 
 Native6506 uptime is 6 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours, 24 minutes
 Time since Native6506 switched to active is 6 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours,
 23 minute
 s
 System returned to ROM by power-on (SP by power-on)
 System image file is slot0:c6sup12-js-mz.121-13.E.bin
 
 cisco Catalyst 6000 (R7000) processor with 112640K/18432K bytes of
memory.
 Processor board ID SAD05020HUX
 R7000 CPU at 300Mhz, Implementation 39, Rev 2.1, 256KB L2, 1024KB L3
Cache
 Last reset from power-on
 Bridging software.
 X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
 SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
 TN3270 Emulation software.
 8 Virtual Ethernet/IEEE 802.3  interface(s)
 120 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 4 Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 381K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 
 16384K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
 Standby is up
 Standby has 112640K/18432K bytes of memory.
 
 Configuration register is 0x2102
 
 Native6506#
 
 Native6506#sh conf
 Using 8122 out of 391160 bytes
 !
 version 12.1
 service timestamps debug uptime
 service timestamps log uptime
 no service password-encryption
 !
 hostname Native6506
 !
 boot system flash slot0:c6sup12-js-mz.121-13.E.bin
 boot bootldr bootflash:c6msfc2-boot-mz.121-4.E1
 enable password cisco
 !
 ip subnet-zero
 !
 !
 no ip domain-lookup
 !
 mls flow ip destination
 mls flow ipx destination
 !
 redundancy
   mode rpr-plus
   main-cpu
auto-sync running-config
auto-sync standard
 !
 !
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet1/1
   no ip address
   switchport
   switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
   switchport trunk native vlan 64
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet1/2
   no ip address
   shutdown
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Priscilla
 
 Sam Sneed wrote:
 
 
 I'm not sure what you mean by hybrid mode. I have the sh ver,
 sh mod, sh ver
 for MSFC and  below. I have nothing plugged into at leat 3
 ports which still
 report dropped packets. 

Re: Tonight's Homily - OSPF authenitcation - I didn't know [7:62961]

2003-02-13 Thread Groupstudy Spam Test
- Original Message -
From: Vicuna, Mark 
To: The Long and Winding Road ;

Sent: Thursday, 13 February, 2003 1:13 AM
Subject: RE: Tonight's Homily - OSPF authenitcation - I didn't know
[7:60282]


Hi Chuck,

Just curious to know what ios release you were using with this?  I could not
replicate the same results.


CL: all the routers in question have 12.1.5T10





cheers,
Mark.

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[7:60282]


Eric Rogers  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 For those who don't have the book in question -

 Pg 17 of the Parkhurst OSPF book:

 ...In Cisco IOS Software Release 12.X, the authentication used on an
 interface can be different from the authentication enabled for an area.
When
 using Cisco IOS Software release 12.X, the authentication method used on
 different interfaces in the same area does not need to be the same.
 Authentication can be turned off on selected interfaces using the command
ip
 ospf authentication null (see section 19-1). The key and password do not
 need to be the same on every interface, but both ends of a common link
need
 to use the same key and password. Authentication is enabled by area (Cisco
 IOS Software Release 11.X and earlier) so it is possible to employ
 authentication in other areas...

Eric, I've been re-reading this passage, and thinking about it, and I am not
so sure that the intent was to completely divorce area authentication (
under the ospf process ) from interface authentication.

Consider that you can configure area authentication ( under the ospf
process ) on one side, along with the  approrpiate interface configuration,
and all that the other side needs is interface configuration. And it works!
Somehow that does not seem like an intended consequence.

Is that your understanding of the intent? The passage quoted above appears
to me to be saying that the intent is to allow the interface specific
configuration to be different than the general area configuration. Maybe a
concession to mixed vendor environments?

I just found it fascinating that one now has a number of options, and that
one can now introduce authentication without necessarily enforcing it on all
interfaces.

Anyone know any of the IOS progammer managers? I'm really curious about the
thought behind this.






 CL - Thanks for the heads up the other day about the OSPF Parkhurst
 book...Pulled it from my bookshelf and wiped off the dust just yesterday
and
 I'm currently on page105 going through it with my highlighter. I like the
 way he's formatted it by pounding on the same example building on the
 commands as he goes. After the third or forth example it all just all
clicks
 together with the little nuances he's placed in there. When I first got
this
 book I just thought of it as a command reference nothing more but it's
 really a good book that I would have never delved into without your
comment
 the other day. I'll be finishing OSPF this weekend and moving into my
other
 currently unread Parkhurst book BGP.

 Eric R

 - Original Message -
 From: The Long and Winding Road
 To:
 Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:46 PM
 Subject: Tonight's Homily - OSPF authenitcation - I didn't know that!
 [7:60275]


  As many of you know, I've been reading Parkhurst's OSPF book for a
number
 of
  reasons. So I'm fooling around in the chapter on interface commands,
when
  something hits me over the head.
 
  authentication can be done on an interface by interface basis!
 
  one of those things that I just never noticed before. Maybe because all
 the
  practice labs always instruct you to use area authentication. Maybe
cause
  I'm just a Homer Simpson kind of guy.
 
  So check this out. Topology will look strange, because I'm doing this
over
 a
  vlan tunnel.
 
  router-vlan tunnel-router
 
  each router has 4 subinterfaces, making four point-to-point links
 
  FrameSwitch#o nei
 
  Neighbor ID Pri   State   Dead Time   Address
 Interface
  222.222.222.141   FULL/DR 00:00:33122.1.4.1
  Ethernet0/1.4
  222.222.222.141   FULL/DR 00:00:36122.1.3.1
  Ethernet0/1.3
  222.222.222.141   FULL/DR 00:00:36122.1.2.1
  Ethernet0/1.2
  222.222.222.141   FULL/DR 00:00:33122.1.1.1
  Ethernet0/1.1
  FrameSwitch#
 
  FrameSwitch#ir os
  O197.32.44.0/24 [110/11] via 122.1.4.1, 00:01:21, Ethernet0/1.4
  [110/11] via 122.1.1.1, 00:01:21, Ethernet0/1.1
  [110/11] via 122.1.2.1, 00:01:21, Ethernet0/1.2
  [110/11] via 122.1.3.1, 00:01:21, Ethernet0/1.3
  O195.100.3.0/24 [110/11] via 122.1.4.1, 00:01:21, Ethernet0/1.4
  [110/11] via 122.1.1.1, 00:01:21, Ethernet0/1.1
  [110/11] via 122.1.2.1, 

Secondary Address Solution for OSPF/IGRP? [7:50274]

2002-07-31 Thread Groupstudy Ackount

I have worked through all of the other approaches to the old 
classless--classful problem including tunnels, loopback on the same net, 
and the second ospf process summarization routine.  However, I cannot find a 
working solution to the other suggested approach utilizing secondary 
addresses.  Does anyone have one they might share?  I tried the archives 
first of course, but received a Glimpse Not Found error.  Thanks in 
advance for any help.

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Re: CCIE written passed! [7:2615]

2001-04-30 Thread GroupStudy

Which of the Boson tests do you recommend?

Steve

scott mann  wrote in message
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 Feels Good!

 I just passed the CCIE written. It was not actually all that hard if you
 have all of your CCNP stuff still in your head. Just studied for a couple
of
 weeks after taking 3 months off from CCNP. I would suggest that all
 candidates buy the new Caslow book and buy the Boson tests. Use the Bosons
 not only for the memorization of questions, but also for the
 explanations/references given for each answer. I spent about 4 hours per
day
 studying for these two weeks using just these two guides.

 Thanks to those who helped me by answering my questions...They directly
 helped if you know what I mean...

 On to the LAB...should take about 3-4 months to study intermixed with my
 actual job.

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Re: Router problem

2001-03-26 Thread Groupstudy

Show us your configs.

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Subject: Router problem


 I have a 1720 with a serial wic at a remote site. I see the interface on
my
 side as up/up but I cannot telnet nor ping the remote site successfully. I
 have had the guy on the remote side check the config line by line and
clear
 ip routes , and it does not show all the routes even though the 1720 is
 using eigrp and has ip classless.He can see his side as  up/up as well.

 I think it is a hardware or IOS problem.

 Any suggestions

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Re: Cisco Book, High Availability Networking with Cisco

2001-03-25 Thread Groupstudy

If you frequent the comp.dcom.sys.cisco newsgroup you will be very familiar
with Dr Jones.  He regularly takes time to post solutions to various topics
that interest him.  I have always found his comments very pertinent and
usually insightful.

I am glad to see he has taken the time to share some of his wealth of
knowledge with others in the form of a book.  I anticipate it will be a good
read.

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Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 6:42 AM
Subject: Cisco Book, High Availability Networking with Cisco



I just bought the High Availability Networking with Cisco router and I
 must say it's OUTSTANDING. The author goes into many great topic's, that
 other books don't. I would encourage everyone to at least look at it.

 You can get online or your local book store


  Autor Vincent C. Jones
  ISBN # 0201704552


 Brian

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Re: Password recovery

2001-03-21 Thread Groupstudy

From Rommon, change your config reg to 0x2142.  Reload the router.  Once you
have logged in do a 'COPY START RUN' to merge your old config with the one
running in RAM. Edit your passwords to how you want them and change the
config reg back to 0x2102.  Before you reload the router for the final time,
do a 'copy start tftp' and replace the original startup config with the one
now on your router.   You will now be able to reload the router fine.  Say
YES to the prompts that ask you if you want to save.

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Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:36 PM
Subject: Password recovery



  We have a problem with our 3660 router. We forgot the enable password and
 need to start from scratch and recreate the passwords. The problem is, the
 router has no Flash memory, so the router only boots into Rommon mode...I
 don't believe these routers have bootflash, because you can't use the
"boot
 tftp" command without a BOOTLDR not set error. So even after we manualy
 install the IOS via X-modem and it is run in NVRAM, it loads the startup
 config in memory and that just brings us back to where we were beforeA
 router in which we have no enable password for. What are our options at
this
 point? Thank you.



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Re: A Simple Rip configuration Error

2001-03-20 Thread Groupstudy

Lets see your subnet masks...

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From: Navin Parwal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:03 AM
Subject: A Simple Rip configuration Error


 Hello Everyone ,
   I am facing a problem while configuring RIP on my network , my
network
 is as follows :
 I have two Cisco 2600 series routers which are connected back to back .

 1) On the fisrst Router Cisco2610 my configuration is as follows :
 Ethernet0/0 11.100.10.1
 Serial0/0   200.100.10.1

 2) On the second Router Cisco2620 my configuration is as follows :
Ethernet0/0 192.168.1.1
Serial0/0   200.100.10.2


   I am able to ping from one end of the ethernet of one router to another
 when I configure the routing table statically , but when I am giving the
 following commands for dynamic routing on both of the router :

 1)  on 2610  config) router rip
  network 200.100.10.0

 2)  on 2620   config) router rip
   network 200.100.10.0

I am not able to view the RIP (R) entries when I give the command show
ip
 route , it shows me only all the directory connected interfaces and gives
me
 a message that gateway not set.
When I give the command show ip Protocols , it shows me that RIP is
 running .
  I have even changes the network address to the other interfaces
 addresses , that the ethernet interface address of the other side of the
 other router , but still does not display R on the show ip route command
What could be the error I am making , please let me know .
   I am new on routers and switches .
 thanks,

 Navin Parwal





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Re: Windows NT station to join the domain through a PIX firewall

2001-03-19 Thread Groupstudy

NT uses ports 135/136/137 for its RPC's.

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From: Udo Konstantin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Ehab Mohamad Abdullah' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 6:47 AM
Subject: AW: Windows NT station to join the domain through a PIX firewall


 First:
 If you want behind a FW you must authorized.
 Second:
 That is only a udp broadcast for dhcp

 udo

 -Ursprungliche Nachricht-
 Von: Ehab Mohamad Abdullah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Montag, 19. Marz 2001 15:38
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff: Windows NT station to join the domain through a PIX firewall


 Any body has an idea on the following?
 How can windows NT workstation login to the domain while the NT server is
 behind a Firewall (PIX) ?
 Is it a port or another kind of traffic?

 Ehab


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Re: Different between routers using access-list and routers with FW feature set

2001-03-19 Thread Groupstudy

If you use a router with the FFS and use CBAC, you can build yourself a
pretty decent firewall.  The router though has far less throughput than a
PIX and will only be good  for under 100 users.  The PIX can handle
thousands of users.

The way to think about them is in the design philosophy.  The PIX starts
life completely locked down and 100% secure.  You need to open holes in it
to allow traffic to flow.  On the other hand, a router begins life just the
opposite by being completely open and you need to lock it down to secure it,
which is no simple feat for the inexperienced.

I will warn you though both are not cheap. A new PIX will set you back
$1.00 -14000.00.   The FFS on top of a decent 3620 will cost you $5000
but you can buy a used PIX 520 for that kind of cash.

Another thing, think about scaleability.  If you go for the FFS now and
spend 5K, how long will it be before you outgrow it and have to spring for
the PIX anyway.  Buy the PIX, set it up then forget about things for a
while...

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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:46 PM
Subject: Different between routers using access-list and routers with FW
feature set


 Hi,

 Can anyone tell me in security point of view, what is the different
between
 router using access-list and routers with FW feature set? For example, if
my
 network need to connect to an external company, is Cisco routers using
 access-list can provide enough security? What is the benefit if I use a
 router with FW feature set? What about if I use PIX?

 Thanks.
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Re: A design problem of switched network

2001-03-18 Thread Groupstudy

Good point!

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Groupstudy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: A design problem of switched network


 At 09:17 AM 3/18/01, Groupstudy wrote:
 How on earth can you make recommendations without knowing more about the
 network you are working on?   We have no idea of the quantitly of users,
the
 traffic patterns, whether the company is hosting its own DMZ, how fast
their
 links are, what routing protocol(s) they run, their addressing
scheme...need
 I go on?
 
 Sounds like you just read the DCN book and are spouting textbook

 The DCN book would say to gather all that information you mentioned first.
 It sounds like you are spouting the textbook, and that's a good thing.
;-)

 generalities.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Santosh Koshy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 5:20 AM
 Subject: Re: A design problem of switched network
 
 
   I am going to make a few assumptions here based on your request
  
   400340034003
  
   65096509
  
 PIX
  
   WWW
  
   1) Dont run any kind of routing at the core layer leave that job
for
 the
   distribution layer
   2) Now since there is no L3 routing taking place at the core, it means
 that
   there are going to be 2 subnets from the distribution switches to the
core
   switches. All the links to the first 6509 will be on one VLAN and all
the
   wires going to the 2nd switch will belong to the second VLAN.
   3) Get a Pix with 3 interfaces. Use 1 as an external interface (to
www),
 and
   use the other two as internal interfaces (one going to each of the 2
 VLAN's
   the 4003's) are connected to.
  
   With the above setup your traffic will be load balanced and both
 subnets
   will be in use...
  
   Hope that helps,
   Santosh Koshy
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   ""frank"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
   992dnf$jd9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:992dnf$jd9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Now I want to design a lan for a company, i want to use 2 6509s as
core
switches for redundancy ,several 4003 as distribution switches .Each
 4003
connect to 6509 seperately ,2 6509 connect to a  pix  which  links
to
internet.
What puzzled me is how to deal with these 2 6509s.Do they need to be
connected with GEC technology and apply HSRP on them ?If they don't
have
links ,which link should a 4003 choose to visit internet?
   
   
Thanks,
   
Frank
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!!

2001-03-18 Thread Groupstudy

Well done Lou.

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Subject: Thanks to all in the group!!! Passed my lab!!


 I just wanted to say thanks to all of the participants of this group.  The
 knowledge, insight and even occasionally the opinions gleaned from this
 group have been an invaluable tool in the quest for my CCIE.

 As of today that quest has come to a successful conclusion.  Thanks to
all!!

 Louie A. Belt
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Re: ISL VLANS between routers

2001-03-18 Thread Groupstudy

Go take another look at your setup...

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From: Gareth Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: ISL  VLANS between routers


 You sure it can't be done at 10Mb?

 Pretty sure I've done it at 10Mb.

 ""Groupstudy"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Trunking requires at least 100mb speed.
 
 
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  From: Mike Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 4:07 PM
  Subject: Re: ISL  VLANS between routers
 
 
   All,
   From the experience I have had in the campus networks,
   I have done both ISL/802.1Q over single fiber between
   buildings. I have always used a MLS with gigabit
   technology for this design. The use of vlans, from my
   understanding, is based on broadcast and the use of
   being able to centralize manage IDF wire closets
   without having to go to each one physically, and also
   not having to worry about where people are physically.
   By using a MLS, you can assign port users to vlans and
   do management by software. You dont have to worry
   about acct being in 3 different vlans and can
   control/support the areas and users better.
   Well, thats my spill, and I have only done this on
   Cisco equipment. Also, based on Cisco equipment, from
   what I understand you can not do this over a T1 or
   fram relay? Please let me know if this is wrong.
  
   Thanks!
  
  
   --- Peter Van Oene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Juniper supports a feature called CCC (circuit cross
connect) which essentially enables layer two
technologies to span across WAN backbones via MPLS.
This works with many layer two encapsulations
including ppp, frame, ethernet/802.1q etc.  This
technique can provide the type of functionality you
require, however likely at a price point that won't
mate with the revenue stream it would support.
   
Pete
   
   
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On 3/13/2001 at 11:29 AM Jack wrote:
   
Anyone know of a way to route Vlans over a WAN
other than using Cisco ISL?

I have customer with two sites, a 7204 on each site
connected with a DS3
but
Cisco says that  his VLAN info can only be passed
over Ethernet interfaces.
He has a 6509 behind each router and the VLAN's are
defined in those
switches.

Anyone had any experience with GIGAMAN from PacBell
or Yipes.com ?


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Re: A design problem of switched network

2001-03-18 Thread Groupstudy

How on earth can you make recommendations without knowing more about the
network you are working on?   We have no idea of the quantitly of users, the
traffic patterns, whether the company is hosting its own DMZ, how fast their
links are, what routing protocol(s) they run, their addressing scheme...need
I go on?

Sounds like you just read the DCN book and are spouting textbook
generalities.


- Original Message -
From: Santosh Koshy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 5:20 AM
Subject: Re: A design problem of switched network


 I am going to make a few assumptions here based on your request

 400340034003

 65096509

   PIX

 WWW

 1) Dont run any kind of routing at the core layer leave that job for
the
 distribution layer
 2) Now since there is no L3 routing taking place at the core, it means
that
 there are going to be 2 subnets from the distribution switches to the core
 switches. All the links to the first 6509 will be on one VLAN and all the
 wires going to the 2nd switch will belong to the second VLAN.
 3) Get a Pix with 3 interfaces. Use 1 as an external interface (to www),
and
 use the other two as internal interfaces (one going to each of the 2
VLAN's
 the 4003's) are connected to.

 With the above setup your traffic will be load balanced and both
subnets
 will be in use...

 Hope that helps,
 Santosh Koshy










 ""frank"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 992dnf$jd9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:992dnf$jd9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Now I want to design a lan for a company, i want to use 2 6509s as core
  switches for redundancy ,several 4003 as distribution switches .Each
4003
  connect to 6509 seperately ,2 6509 connect to a  pix  which  links to
  internet.
  What puzzled me is how to deal with these 2 6509s.Do they need to be
  connected with GEC technology and apply HSRP on them ?If they don't have
  links ,which link should a 4003 choose to visit internet?
 
 
  Thanks,
 
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Re: show process results.

2001-03-18 Thread Groupstudy

Although your suggestions are certainly potential problem candidates, don't
you think you ought to find out what kind of link he has to the Internet,
how many users are hitting it, and in what fashion, any firewalls or proxy
servers involved and by what comparison he thinks it is slow before you go
telling him to reboot boxes?

A look at his configs wouldn't hurt either!

P.S Debugs are only fatal when not filtered through an access list.


- Original Message -
From: Circusnuts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Moahzam Durrani [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: show process results.


 Wow- your utilization doesn't look high @ all.  From your intro I expected
 70 or 80%.  If you are truly there during down-time, you could begin to
use
 the otherwise fatal Debug commands.  What is the bandwidth you are trouble
 shooting ???  This could me a proxy setting or DNS issue if you Pings to
the
 ISP are good.  Pull each one out of the equation.  You could schedule
reload
 of the router.  Restarting boxes in far from the technical approach, but
it
 gives the code time to recompile  buffers time to free up trapped memory
 ( line cards to fail :-)

 Let us know how you make out
 Phil

 - Original Message -
 From: "Moahzam Durrani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:52 PM
 Subject: show process results.


 
 
 
  I am noticing that our connection to the internet is really slow.
However
  when I do tracroutes and extended pings I dont see unusuall results.
Doing
 a
  sh process I see High CPU utiliztion.Shouldnt be as Its Sat and hardly
any
  one is at work. I checked my fire wall and did not see any unusaul
stuff,
  just http traffic . I was wondering if any would could suggest what I S
  should be loking at in my result below. I am trying to also get in touch
  with our ISP to see if they are having some probs, .
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   #  sh process
  CPU utilization for five seconds: 5%/4%; one minute: 6%; five minutes:
6%
 
   PID QTy   PC Runtime (ms)Invoked   uSecsStacks TTY Process
 1 Csp 802CC11C  2681123059   0 2640/3000   0 Load
Meter
 2 Mwe 80446AC40  2   023572/24000  0 PPP auth
 3 Lst 802B5B00  2342020 5710464101 5740/6000   0 Check
 heaps
 4 Cwe 802ACF040  1   0 5604/6000   0 Chunk
  Manager
 5 Cwe 802BB450  132 961375 5636/6000   0 Pool
 Manager
 6 Mst 802389D00  2   0 5596/6000   0 Timers
 7 Mwe 8001B8FC0  2   0 5612/6000   0 Serial
  Backgroun
 8 Msi 80301938 5920 187128  31 5600/6000   0
  Environmental mo
 9 Lwe 80316478 6488 102440  63 5304/6000   0 ARP
Input
10 Mwe 8048B2680  3   0 5596/6000   0 DDR
Timers
11 Mwe 804A36500  2   011608/12000  0 Dialer
 event
12 Lwe 806194CC8  24000 5644/6000   0 Entity
MIB
  API
13 Mwe 8001FCE40  1   0 5640/6000   0 SERIAL
  A'detect
14 Cwe 802C0BF00  1   0 5632/6000   0 Critical
  Bkgnd
15 Mwe 8028AFC0   183116 786435 23210604/12000  0 Net
  Background
16 Lwe 8022DC200 35   011248/12000  0 Logger
17 Msp 8024C238 83445613789   1 5540/6000   0 TTY
  Background
18 Msp 8028A600 26285613795   0 5828/6000   0
Per-Second
  Jobs
19 Mwe 800A78600  2   0 5552/6000   0 Hawkeye
  Backgrou
20 Hwe 8028A838   1916161611492 118 5628/6000   0 Net
Input
21 Csp 80291CC4  3361123060   0 5624/6000   0 Compute
 load
  avg
   PID QTy   PC Runtime (ms)Invoked   uSecsStacks TTY Process
22 Msp 8028A650  1503576  93564   16070 5736/6000   0
Per-minute
  Jobs
23 Msp 80159144 3844   22282300   0 4632/6000   0 Framer
  backgroun
24 Mwe 8033EA18  26083883461262 75311024/12000  0 IP Input
25 Mwe 803E105C   210948 658709 320 5452/6000   0 CDP
 Protocol
26 Lwe 806D02B00  1   0 5324/6000   0 X.25
 Encaps
  Mana
27 Mwe 8012F2340  2   0 5600/6000   0 Emulator
28 Hwe 804541EC0  1   0 5736/6000   0 Asy FS
  Helper
29 Mwe 8042F8B04  31333 4940/6000   0 PPP IP
Add
  Route
30 Mwe 8039F5D4   360416  936213849 8368/9000   0 IP
  Background
31 Mwe 801E6B0444960  93586 480 5604/6000   0 Adj
 Manager
32 Mst 80327A444   2198   111392/12000  0 TCP
Timer
33 Lwe 8032C82C  252175144011268/12000  0 TCP
  Protocols
34 Lwe 80377ACC0  1   0 5644/6000   0 Probe
 Input
35 Mwe 80378D280  1   0 5644/6000   0 

Re: Paper CCXX ...LONG

2001-03-18 Thread Groupstudy

Very well said Craig.

- Original Message -
From: Craig Columbus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mike Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: Paper CCXX ...LONG


 Ok...before I even begin addressing this point, let me state that I think
 that there's value in obtaining certification and that I certainly admire
 everyone who's taken the time and money to better himself, or herself,
 through the certification process.  However, as someone who hires network
 people, I have a problem with paper certs and in this post, I'll explain
 why.  If you're going to flame me, at least read through the entire post
 first.  With that much said:

 I think most of you are missing the point.  Let me rephrase this in the
 form of a question:

 What is the point of becoming certified?

 I think we can all agree that the point of becoming certified is so that
an
 independent third party "certifies" our competency,  or level of
 understanding, in a field of study.  We desire this third-party
 acknowledgement so that peers and employers will understand, at a glance,
 that we have at least the minimum level of understanding to pass
 examinations of a certain difficulty.
 So, given this set of parameters, what happens when those obtaining
 certification do not have the minimum skills, as defined by the
 certification process?  We must conclude that the certification process is
 not reliable, not valid, or both not reliable and not valid.  Is it the
 fault of those obtaining, or seeking to obtain, certification?  No.  It's
 the fault of the third-party certifier.  When this situation occurs, the
 certification process should be revised so that it's both reliable and
 valid, reducing the number of certified individuals who are incompetent as
 defined by the minimum standards of the level of certification in
 question.  It's at this point that we're faced with a reality
 check:  vendors don't particularly care that some of the certified
 individuals don't meet at least minimum standards.  Why?  They have a pool
 of individuals who have staked time and money on the certification process
 and won't readily abandon the desire to keep working.  To keep working,
 they have to make sure that their employer keeps the product on which
 they're certified in stock.  With little effort,  besides offering someone
 the satisfaction of obtaining the letters of certification, the vendor has
 gained a massive "indentured" sales force.

 When hiring someone for an open position, I used to look at experience,
 certifications, formal education, and references, in that order.  I did
 this because experience showed what the candidate had done, certifications
 showed at least a certain amount of direct competency in a study area,
 formal education showed at least a certain broad level of knowledge, and
 references verified the experience.  Today I look at experience, formal
 education, references, and finally, certifications.  Why the
 change?  Because anymore, the certifications don't really tell me what a
 candidate knows; they're not a valid or reliable indicator of competency.

 Who's to blame for the devaluation of certain certifications?  Certainly
 not the paper certs themselves.  While some argument could be made that
 those only in it for the money are at fault, I acknowledge that we're all
 looking for a better life and the paper certs see an opportunity and are
 taking it in an effort to better their lives.  Personally, I blame the
 vendors and the training centers.  Vendors need a certain "critical mass"
 of certified individuals to meet marketing objectives and have thus
lowered
 the barrier to entry.  Training centers only care about making a buck off
 the current hot certification.  You've all heard the ads..."Get CCNA
 certified in 2 weeks and join the ranks of those making $70k a year!".
The
 training centers know the realities, but aren't about to advertise them
 since few people would enroll in a course if they realized that two weeks
 of training and a CCNA will get you only a foot in the door at a very low
 salary.

 So, why bother with the certification at all?  A few reasons:
 1) Given that all else is equal on two resumes, most employers generally
 bring in the certified person for an interview before the non-certified.
 2) The market still looks for certifications, irrespective of knowledge,
 for some positions.  You've all seen the ads...CCNP required, CCNA
 preferred.  Some companies don't understand the process and don't want to
 understand the process.  All that matters is that the VP wants someone
with
 a certification on the network team.
 3)  The partner program is going to put more emphasis on having x number
of
 certified individuals, at all levels of certification.

 Bottom line?  Paper certs aren't going away.  I think they'll decline a
bit
 as the economy slows and dumps more experienced people into the job
market,
 but overall I think they're going to continue to 

Re: email service set up

2001-03-18 Thread Groupstudy

This is obviously a very small network if they do not already have
established email service.

Install an Exchange server locally and make sure you have a modem on it.
With MS Exchange you can set it up to use a dial up connection in the event
that it needs to forward queued email.  Your ISP has probably given you a
dialup profile as well as your DSL, so their SMTP relay services will be
configured to accept your email from whatever server is comes in on.

Setup your Exchange to use the DSL as its primary mail forwarding link.   I
don't recall if there is a way to tell the server to automatically use the
modem if the primary link is down, you may have to manually switch it but it
will be very simple to do so.

Rather than setting up an Email server you may be better off using a SMTP
relay service and simply forwarding your email to your ISP for them to
route.  You could do this easily with a PC which has both the DSL router and
a modem on it, and still get your redundency should the DSL go down.   The
downside to this is that email needs to be stored locally on your users hard
drives.   Having your own email server gives you that nice archive, and lets
you monitor what email comes and goes if need be.  The downside to that is
needing to back it up and maintain it etc.

If you do decide to go with a local mail server, don't skimp on the
hardware.  Buy yourself a decent server which has Raid5 capability and keep
a hot spare drive around.  Make sure it has a decent backup system on it
too.

For right now I would just download a free SMTP relay agent from
Winfiles.com or Download.com etc, throw it on a PC, set all your mail
clients (built in email client in WWW browser) to use it, and give yourself
time to think about what you ultimately want.

HTH


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From: Jim Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:23 PM
Subject: OT: email service set up


 Hello,

 Sorry for this OT question. I'm setting up a network
 for a small company, they've got a DSL Internet
 connection. What's the best way to handel email
 service? If I set up an exchange server locally, what
 happens if there is something wrong with DSL
 connection?

 Thanks in advance.

 Jim

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Re: using cisco cd without network , why cant i?

2001-03-17 Thread Groupstudy

Sounds like it was installed on a network drive.  Get a hold of the first
disk in the two disk documentation set and reinstall it to your local hard
drive.   It does not matter if you are connected to the Internet or not.
There are a few links on the disk that do point to CCO though, just avoid
them.  99.9% of the docs will be available directly from the CD.

- Original Message -
From: beth shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:54 AM
Subject: using cisco cd without network , why cant i?


 I know this is a silly question and im  too
 embarrassed to ask the guys at the office... buy every
 time i try to user my doc cd it gives me a blank page
 unless im connected to a network how do i look at this
 if im on a plane or something. I know this is simple
 and pray no one from my office ever sees this! :)
 can anyone discreetly help? hahaha
 Thanks
 Bethy

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Re: VLSM, OSPF, and redistribution into IGRP

2001-03-17 Thread Groupstudy

Need to see the remainder of your configs.  I don't think you are using the
correct area range summary but without knowing your addressing scheme, I
cannot say for sure.


- Original Message -
From: John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 2:59 PM
Subject: VLSM, OSPF, and redistribution into IGRP


 I'm working through a scenario in the new Sybex CCIE study guide and I
can't
 get it to work, even using their suggested workaround.  Here's the
scenario:

 RouterA --OSPF-- RouterB --IGRP-- RouterC

 RouterA has two different /27 links, one of which is connected to RouterB.
 The connecting link is 10.1.2.0/27 and its other link is 10.1.1.32/27.

 The link between RouterB and RouterC is a /24, 10.1.3.0.  The purpose of
the
 scenario is to demonstrate that the /27 networks will not be redistributed
 in IGRP because the masks are different on each side of RouterB.  To
remedy
 this problem, the book suggests summarizing the /27 networks as /24 which
 would allow them to be redistributed into a classful protocol.  Following
 the instructions, on RouterB I added:

 router ospf 1
  area 0 range 10.1.1.0 255.255.255.0

 Supposedly, this would work but it does not.  Closer to their example, I
 even tried "area 0 range 10.1.1.32 255.255.255.0".  Am I doing it
 incorrectly or is their suggestion wrong?  I worked around this problem by
 creating a summarized static route on RouterB and then redistributing
 static, but I wanted to make it work like in their example.

 So, redistribution gurus, what's the story?  I quickly looked through
 Doyle's book and I haven't seen this specific example yet.

 Any ideas?

 Many thanks,
 John





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Re: ISL VLANS between routers

2001-03-17 Thread Groupstudy

Trunking requires at least 100mb speed.


- Original Message -
From: Mike Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: ISL  VLANS between routers


 All,
 From the experience I have had in the campus networks,
 I have done both ISL/802.1Q over single fiber between
 buildings. I have always used a MLS with gigabit
 technology for this design. The use of vlans, from my
 understanding, is based on broadcast and the use of
 being able to centralize manage IDF wire closets
 without having to go to each one physically, and also
 not having to worry about where people are physically.
 By using a MLS, you can assign port users to vlans and
 do management by software. You dont have to worry
 about acct being in 3 different vlans and can
 control/support the areas and users better.
 Well, thats my spill, and I have only done this on
 Cisco equipment. Also, based on Cisco equipment, from
 what I understand you can not do this over a T1 or
 fram relay? Please let me know if this is wrong.

 Thanks!


 --- Peter Van Oene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Juniper supports a feature called CCC (circuit cross
  connect) which essentially enables layer two
  technologies to span across WAN backbones via MPLS.
  This works with many layer two encapsulations
  including ppp, frame, ethernet/802.1q etc.  This
  technique can provide the type of functionality you
  require, however likely at a price point that won't
  mate with the revenue stream it would support.
 
  Pete
 
 
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  On 3/13/2001 at 11:29 AM Jack wrote:
 
  Anyone know of a way to route Vlans over a WAN
  other than using Cisco ISL?
  
  I have customer with two sites, a 7204 on each site
  connected with a DS3
  but
  Cisco says that  his VLAN info can only be passed
  over Ethernet interfaces.
  He has a 6509 behind each router and the VLAN's are
  defined in those
  switches.
  
  Anyone had any experience with GIGAMAN from PacBell
  or Yipes.com ?
  
  
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Re: VLSM, OSPF, and redistribution into IGRP

2001-03-17 Thread Groupstudy

OK, your only using one area for the whole OSPF network.  This means that
both routerA and routerC are not ABR (border different areas).  The area
range command only works on ABR's.  This now leaves you with a couple of
choices.  RouterB is the ASBR (redistributes from OSPF into a different
protocol on the same router) and can use the 'summary address' command under
the OSPF process to summarize the area into a /24.Rather than trying to
get your OSPF routes into IGRP, use the default-netowork command on the IGRP
router to give it a default route out of the IGRP domain without knowing
where it is sending routes.  You will need to enable 'IP classless' on the
IGRP router and you will need a network injected into IGRP that is not one
of the networks it has routes for.   You could do this by adding a static
route to null0 which you probably won't want to do, or you could add a
network to routerB (try a loopback with a /24 so it gets redistributed) and
once it can be seen in the IGRP router route-table, the default-network
command will add a candidate default route to your route-table.

When using the IGRP default-network command, only use a classfull address.
If you use a subnetted address a static route will be injected into your
config that only a reboot will remove!!

HTH


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From: John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Groupstudy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: VLSM, OSPF, and redistribution into IGRP


 Ok, here are the relevant portions of the configs.

 Router A:

 ip subnet-zero
 !
 interface Ethernet0
  ip address 10.1.1.33 255.255.255.224
  no keepalive
 !
 interface Serial0
  ip address 10.1.2.2 255.255.255.224
  no fair-queue
 !
 router ospf 1
  network 10.1.2.0 0.0.0.31 area 0
  network 10.1.1.32 0.0.0.31 area 0
 !
 ip classless

 Router B:

 ip subnet-zero
 !
 interface Serial0
  ip address 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.224
  clockrate 50
 !
 interface Serial1
  ip address 10.1.3.1 255.255.255.0
 !
 router ospf 1
  network 10.1.2.0 0.0.0.31 area 0
  area 0 range 10.1.1.0 255.255.255.0
  area 0 range 10.1.2.0 255.255.255.0
 !
 router igrp 1
  redistribute ospf 1 metric 1 1000 255 1 1500
  passive-interface Serial0
  network 10.0.0.0
  default-metric 1 1000 255 1 1500
 !
 ip classless

 Here is the routing table for Router B:

 RouterB#sho ip route
 Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
 default

 Gateway of last resort is not set

  10.0.0.0 is variably subnetted, 3 subnets, 2 masks
 C   10.1.3.0 255.255.255.0 is directly connected, Serial1
 C   10.1.2.0 255.255.255.224 is directly connected, Serial0
 O   10.1.1.32 255.255.255.224 [110/74] via 10.1.2.2, 00:09:01, Serial0

 And finally, Router C:

 ip subnet-zero
 !
 interface Serial1
  ip address 10.1.3.2 255.255.255.0
  clockrate 50
 !
 router igrp 1
  network 10.0.0.0
 !
 ip classless

 As I understand it, Router B would summarize 10.1.1.32/27 as 10.1.1.0/24
so
 that it can be redistributed into IGRP.  As you can see, 10.1.1.32/27 is
in
 the routing table, yet from debugging I can see that the summarized route
is
 not being added to the IGRP update, and therefore RouterC is never seeing
 the route.  I found a different way to make this work, but I wanted to
 figure it out using the method in the book.  So far, no luck.

 Another oddity that I noticed that I need to check into:  on RouterA, I
had
 to add a network statement for the 10.1.1.32/27 network or it wouldn't be
 advertised.  Why is this?  I thought that the OSPF network statement
 specified which interfaces were to participate in the OSPF process, not
the
 actual networks to be advertised (like in BGP.)  It seems to me that the
 10.1.1.32/27 network would be part of the Router LSA, with or without a
 specific network statement.

 Thanks,
 John

   Need to see the remainder of your configs.  I don't think you are using
 the
   correct area range summary but without knowing your addressing scheme,
I
   cannot say for sure.
 
 
   - Original Message -
   From: John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 2:59 PM
   Subject: VLSM, OSPF, and redistribution into IGRP
 
 
I'm working through a scenario in the new Sybex CCIE study guide and
I
   can't
get it to work, even using their suggested workaround.  Here's the
   scenario:
   
RouterA --OSPF-- RouterB --IGRP-- RouterC
   
RouterA has two different /27 links, one of which is connected to
 RouterB.
The connecting link is 10.1.2.0/27 and its other link is
10.1.1.32/27.
   
The link between RouterB and RouterC is a /24, 10.1.3.0.  The purpose
 of
   the
scenario is to demonstrate that the /27 networks

Re: classless behaviour

2001-03-17 Thread Groupstudy

Unfortunately, Doyle gives about the best description I have thus read.   If
I recall, Bruce Caslow hits this a little in his book too.

I have just posted an answer to a thread that gives one use of IP classless.

Once you begin your quest of CCIE, you will encounter this in such a way it
is unavoidable.  Until then, forget about it unless you are running an old
DV routing protocol at work.

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From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:22 PM
Subject: classless behaviour


 Hi,

 To configure classless behaviour, we use "ip subnet-zero" and "ip
classless".
 I never understand them, even after reading Doyle's bible.

 *  When do we need them ?
 *  If we don't use them, what will happen ?
 *  Is there good example to show their effect ?

 Thank you in advance.

 Bill

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Re: TCPmag.com Salary Survey

2001-03-16 Thread Groupstudy

What a joke.  According  to their chart an 18 year old kid right out of high
school who lives in Detriot could spend 81 hours of studying and then land
themselves a job paying $73K per year.

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Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 3:42 AM
Subject: TCPmag.com Salary Survey


 Hi,

 See how much CCIE, CCNP and CCNA's are paid 

  http://tcpmag.com/salarysurvey/2001/default.asp?id=3DSALARY01cid=3D89


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Re: CCIE token ring..

2001-03-16 Thread Groupstudy

DLSW is big on the lab and you will need to know all the various bridging
functionality.   Fortunately used Token-Ring equipment is cheap on eBay.
You should get a hold of 2 MAU's and a half dozen cables.  If you really
want to test them though get a couple of Token-Ring NIC's and put them in
two PC's and run Netbeui over them.

Make sure you have a 2513 or two (preferably) in your lab.

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To: 'Cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 6:29 AM
Subject: CCIE token ring..


 currently i am setting up a Cisco lab at home for CCIE preparation.. I
like
 to know whether is token ring is tested hard in the Lab exam??   it is in
 the CCIE blueprint but nowadays i seldom see companies using token ring
 networks..   like to make sure so that i don't buy the wrong
 equipments.



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Re: EIGRP Updates

2001-03-15 Thread Groupstudy

EIGRP does not make regular table updates, and it only sends partial routes
when there is a topology change.  It does send hellos every 5 seconds
(changeable default parameter) though to allow for rapid reconvergence.   It
acts a lot like BGP when it comes to table updates.


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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:54 PM
Subject: EIGRP Updates




  Hello all,
 
  I'm trying to tweak out a bit more bandwidth across our WAN.  We have a
  3660 core router here in the main office and about 30 2509s and a few
  2612s at all the remotes.
  We are running EIGRP on all routers.  We have this debate going on about
  how often the tables are being updated.  I seem to recall that they
update
  about every 3 minutes regardless of changes in topology.
  What is the default??
 
  Thank you, in advance, for any input!!
 

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Re: IBGP multihop?

2001-03-15 Thread Groupstudy

Look at the name of the command, it sums up where you can use it 'EBGP
multihop'...you can only use this command to reference neighbors in a
different AS than the router originating the command.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: IBGP multihop?


 1. I did have "update-source" command...
 2. loopback interfaces are pinging on both routers...

 I also wish that it is true that there is no limitation for ibgp
multihop...

 However, based on my following test, the only conclusion I came up with is
 that either I missed something that's really obvious or Cisco does not
 support ibgp multihop.

 R2:
 interface Loopback0
  ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
  no ip directed-broadcast

 router bgp 65001
  no synchronization
  bgp confederation identifier 100
  neighbor 3.3.3.3 remote-as 65001
  neighbor 3.3.3.3 update-source Loopback0

 R2#ping 3.3.3.3

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 3.3.3.3, timeout is 2 seconds:
 !

 R2#show ip bgp summ
 BGP router identifier 2.2.2.2, local AS number 65001
 BGP table version is 1, main routing table version 1

 NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down
 State/PfxRcd
 3.3.3.3 4 65001   0   0000 neverActive

 R3:
 interface Loopback0
  ip address 3.3.3.3 255.255.255.0
  no ip directed-broadcast

 router bgp 65001
  no synchronization
  bgp confederation identifier 100
  neighbor 2.2.2.2 remote-as 65001
  neighbor 2.2.2.2 update-source Loopback0

 R3#ping 2.2.2.2

 Type escape sequence to abort.
 Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 2.2.2.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
 !

 "Raul Camacho" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 98pha2$fop$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:98pha2$fop$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  There is no requirement for IBGP neigbors to be directly connected.
Make
  sure that you have the routes for all of the intermediate links and the
  loopbacks in your routing table first.
 
  ""Richard Chang"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
  98p8ls$chl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:98p8ls$chl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   For EBGP, you can use the ebgp-multihop command when the neighbors are
 not
   directly-connected. I was just wondering whether there is a similar
   work-around that anyone know of for IBGP.
  
   Basically, I am using loopback interfaces on these two routers and
they
  have
   to go through another hop before hitting each other. I configured IBGP
 on
   these two routers with those loopback addresses and found out that the
 BGP
   session can't be formed...
  
   Thanks
  
   Richard
  
  
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Re: IOS DHCP vs NT DHCP

2001-03-15 Thread Groupstudy

I beg to differ a little here.  If you have ever monitored the DHCP servers
utilization, you will have noted it barely creeps over a percent or
two...ever.  You certainly don't need it running on a high performance
computer.  It is also very simple to setup and in the event your DHCP server
took a dump, you could have another one up and running in about 10 minutes
provided you wisely documented your original server parameters.   The beauty
of DHCP is also in the fact that is leases IP addresses.  When a DHCP server
crashes it does not affect many clients until their leases expire.  In the
case of NT, the default lease period is three days I believe.  This means
you can essentially live without it for quite a few hours, more than enough
time to configure and install a new one.

Case in point, I once got a call from a IT manager who had his DHCP server
take a dive right in front of him.  He was managing a 2000 node network and
using NT for is DHCP services.  He was frantic that his users would start
calling him any time to complain about their not being able to get on the
network.   I told him to calm down and I would be there in about an hour.
When I got there I was able to retrieve the old DHCP server config files off
the crashed server and rebuild a new DHCP server on a nearby NT workstation
(pentium 133 with 32 mb RAM!) and have it up and running in about 45 minutes
including the newly installed NT Server OS.   There were a couple of users
who called in bacause their leases were obviously renewable at that time.  I
had desktop support reboot their PC's and they were happy.   99% of the
users didn't even blink.  They went about their business as usual and their
PC's happily re-leased their IP addresses from the new DHCP server after
their daily shutdowns!   Total downtime about 2 hours.

I agree with Pricilla to a certain extent in that I would not condone adding
DHCP services to a router that performs any kind of routing.  I do think it
would be a good idea to dedicate an old 2500 for it though.  Just make sure
you have a spare one around though in case it takes a dive.



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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Eric Waguespack [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: ElephantChild [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: IOS DHCP vs NT DHCP


 At 01:52 PM 3/15/01, Eric Waguespack wrote:
 does anyone have any links to documentation comparing
 the two? or opinions / personal experience to draw
 from?
 
 i really dig the idea of yanking an nt dhcp server out
 and replacing it with a 2600/3500 ios router running
 dhcp

 That seems risky to me. A 2600 router has a 68000 CPU of some sort (I
 think). The same CPU on old Macintoshes. It doesn't have a whole lot of
 memory. And most importantly it's optimized to do one job: routing.
Routing
 is mission-critical. I wouldn't want to take away resources from that
 essential job.

 An NT server could be installed on a machine with 512 MB of memory, a 1
GHz
 P4 processor, a speedy and large hard drive, etc.

 Since DHCP is mission critical to most networks, I would want it running
on
 a high-performance system that isn't also doing routing.

 Priscilla



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Re: ISDN Simulator

2001-03-15 Thread Groupstudy

OK lets see, using your prices here is a price comparison of renting two
ISDN lines or buying a ISDN simulator for the typical 4 month study period
required to get your CCIE certification.

Two line ISDN rental:  $300 setup fee's and $100.00 per month rental fee's

Purchase 1 Teltone ISDN Demonstrator: (has two ISDN line capability)
$1700.00

OK you are now in for $700.00 in rental fees or $1700.00 ownership costs.
Here is where the buying pays off, most CCIE candidates fail their first
attempt and a retest is now a seven month waiting period which equates to
$700 more in rental fees bringing your total to $1400.00. Still cheaper than
owning an ISDN sim though huh?  Not quite...

You can now turn around and sell your ISDN simulator for close to what you
paid for it say $1500.00 bringing you total cost of ISDN practice to
$200.00.   I would love to see you trying to resell your used rental fees to
another CCIE candidate :-) ...You eat $1400.00.


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To: Groupstudy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: ISDN Simulator


 Bell Atlantic- $149 for the installation, $49 a month for 20 hours, 
 waiting on the slow connection- priceless :o)

 Phil

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 Subject: Re: ISDN Simulator


  Unfortunately those terms are not synonymous.
 
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  Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:01 PM
  Subject: ISDN Simulator
 
 
  
   If someone could recommend a good-cheap ISDN simulator it would be
 greatly
   appreciated.
  
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Re: PIX Performance

2001-03-15 Thread Groupstudy

Bottlenecks almost always end up being the smallest pipe on a network.  In
your case you have a possible 4 T1's which even when all are fully utilized
will only pass around 6mb of traffic per second.   Even your darn 10 baseT
ethernet pipes could handle that.  The PIX can handle up to 170mb per second
and won't even blink at 4 fully loaded T1's.  I suggest you give the client
the numbers and let them do the math.  After they have done their own math,
and if they are still not convinced your right, may I suggest you ask them
why they need your help, they obviously know more about the matter at hand
than you do :-)


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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:33 PM
Subject: PIX Performance


 Hello everyone.  Here is the situation.  A client of mine plans on setting
up
 some DMZs off either a PIX 515 or 525.  Servers will consist of smtp
relay,
 ftp,  2 to 4 web servers, 2 OWA servers, and 5 to 10 web app servers.
Inside
 (the internal LAN), there are about 10 servers, some database, which dmz
 servers will need to access.  They currently have 2 T1s for external
access
 to these DMZ based servers (no internally initiated web traffic), and do
not
 plan to upgrade to more that 4 T1s anytime soon.  To the point, the client
 claims that the PIX will be unable to handle all the traffic from the
front
 end and the access to the back end and that it will become a performance
 bottleneck with an extremely complicated, long rule set.  My experience
and
 opinion tell me that the PIX will do just fine and could probably handle a
 hell of a lot more.  It is doing static NAT also but not any VPN stuff.
If
 anything, with about 6000 remote clients accessing certain servers
throughout
 the day, the potential bottleneck with be the 2 T1s or the 2610 router in
 front of the PIX, not the PIX itself - but he won't believe me!  I have
 plenty of performance test results and have implemented multiple PIXs and
 some Check Point Firewalls.  Am I missing something?  How do I convince
him?
 Since this may not be perceived as a certification issue, you should
probably
 answer me directly and not clog up the list.  Thank-you in advance...

 David Raker CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, MCP + Internet

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Re: Configuring Dial on a Serial Interface

2001-03-13 Thread Groupstudy

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Nigel is absolutely right.  You need to use ports that are
Synchronous/Asynchronous.  You cannot turn a physically synchronous port
into a asynchronous port by merely adding a command like you can to a combo
port.  Thus you need to get your hands on a 2520/2521/2522/2523 router to do
what you want.   I seem to recall reading that the 4 port interface modules
for the 4000 series are combo ports, but I could be mistaken.


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Subject: Configuring Dial on a Serial Interface


 I have (2) 2500 with RS-232's running from the Serial ports to =
 USRobotics/3Com modems, which in tern are connected to a Teltone Telco =
 simulator.  I thought the hard part was over, when I finished the =
 cabling the thing out.  I cannot get the very basic "first things first" =
 command to take- Physical-layer async. =20

 Any ideas ???=20

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Re: Max Vty's

2001-03-12 Thread Groupstudy

I wanted to configure some additional vty's a while back and couldn't find
the answer.  I posted a question to the CCIE lab mailing list and someone
told me this.  I haven't checked it first hand on an Enterprise-running
router yet though!

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Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Max Vty's


 I like getting answers to my posts  :-)  but I was wondering - did you
find
 that in a CCO document or is it through your experience?

 I'm really trying to get good - very good at sifting CCO and the doc CD in
 preparation of the eventual CCIE lab someday.

 thanks

 Kevin Wigle


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 Subject: Re: Max Vty's


  You need Enterprise IOS to get more than 5 vty's.
 
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  To: Cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 12:20 PM
  Subject: Max Vty's
 
 
   Group,
  
   Glad to see the list back up and running!
  
   This topic was discussed a while ago and I found 2 posts in the
archives
  but
   they didn't say much.
  
   When I look at CCO docs, it says that 200 vtys are allowed on a 2600,
 but
  I
   can only get the original 5 to work.
  
   Somebody mentioned that perhaps enterprise IOS is required.  I can't
 seem
  to
   find where it states that ver x allows more vtys than version y.
  
   Does anyone got a better reference on this?
  
   Kevin Wigle
  
  
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Re: Have a problem

2001-03-11 Thread Groupstudy

Go to CCO and get the password recovery procedures for your model.  Make
sure your configuration-register is set to 0x2102.


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Subject: Re: Have a problem


 I was trying to do the password recovery where you change the  config
 register. I figure i typed something in wrong. You think that replacing
the
 boot chips would work? I had planned on doing this anyway. Especially if
 this fixes the problem

 "John Neiberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  It looks like you might have changed the console port baud rate.  At
least
 I
  think that's possible with the config register.  I just woke up and I'm
a
  little sluggish.  g
 
  Anyway, try changing the connection speed in your terminal software to
 other
  settings to see if something else works.
 
  Good luck!
 
  John
 
I was trying to reset a password on router and i guess I fat fingered
 the
entry and mistyped the entry for the configuration register. Now all
i
  get
is a bunch of " CCC's" on boot up. Does anyone know how I can fix
this?
  
  
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Re: Max Vty's

2001-03-11 Thread Groupstudy

You need Enterprise IOS to get more than 5 vty's.

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Wigle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 12:20 PM
Subject: Max Vty's


 Group,

 Glad to see the list back up and running!

 This topic was discussed a while ago and I found 2 posts in the archives
but
 they didn't say much.

 When I look at CCO docs, it says that 200 vtys are allowed on a 2600, but
I
 can only get the original 5 to work.

 Somebody mentioned that perhaps enterprise IOS is required.  I can't seem
to
 find where it states that ver x allows more vtys than version y.

 Does anyone got a better reference on this?

 Kevin Wigle


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Re: Load Balancing Across Multiple PIX

2001-03-08 Thread Groupstudy

You would be far better off manipulating the routes (routing protocol) in
your network with the routers on the inside of the PIX, and then just
letting the the traffic flow through the PIX as usual.  You will find this
solution much easier to implement and far more forgiving on your pocketbook!
Of course if your using RIP this is not an option.


- Original Message -
From: Rossetti, Stan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:01 AM
Subject: Load Balancing Across Multiple PIX


 Hello Everyone,

 Does anybody know if it is possible to load balance across multiple PIX
 firewalls?  I have looked at numerous Cisco web pages, but never any
mention
 of load balancing.  I have talked to a sales engineer and he has said that
 to get 1GB of throughput from a PIX firewall, you need to install 3 PIX
 firewalls and do load balancing across them.  The max throughput from one
 PIX is 370MBps.  Of course, I can't get the sales engineer to return my
call
 now.  Doe anyone know if this is true?  Do you have to have 3 PIX to do
load
 balancing?  I would like to just do load balancing across 2 PIX firewalls.
 Is this possible?

 Thanks in advance.




 Thanks

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Re: Simulated dial-tone

2001-03-08 Thread Groupstudy

Go to Ebay and search on Teltone TLS .  They make a few telco simulators
which would be perfect for you.  You can get a TLS5 for about $300-$400
($800.00 new).  They have four analog ports.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 2:20 PM
Subject: Simulated dial-tone


 Anyone know of an inexpensive way to create dial-tone in a home lab.  I
 would like to be able to setup 3 or 4 analog ports (but if only two can be
 done that would works too) that can dial each without having to leave the
 lab - no outside phone lines.  We are able to achieve this at work through
 our Lucent switches, but I doubt I am going to pay a million dollars for a
 phone switch (LOL).  This would be great for simulating dialup scenarios.
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks again,

 Jeffrey M. Anderson
 MCSE / MCSE+I / CCNA
 SAFECO System Support Unit
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Re: RE:ports/ Master Browser elections

2001-03-08 Thread Groupstudy

I am pretty sure Windows uses RPC's to make their browsing functionality
work.  This gives the service the ability to work over all their supported
protocols, ie Netbeui, NWlink and TCP/IP.

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Subject: RE:ports/ Master Browser elections


 All:

 Does anyone know what port the master browser election, on Windows NT 4.0
 server uses?  Thank you

 Raymond


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 Anyone know of a site that would list all ports?  Or a
 specific link on the cisco site?  I've looked through
 pages upon pages with no luck.
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Re: Load Balancing Across Multiple PIX

2001-03-08 Thread Groupstudy

That is a rediculously overpriced solution to the problem at hand!

- Original Message -
From: Wayne  Therese Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: Load Balancing Across Multiple PIX


 If you're looking for optimal load balancing across firewalls look
 at the CSS product line (Cisco of course).  You're going to want
 to take advantage of the multiple "sticky session" options and
 the performance advantage over the LD.

 - Wayne, CCIE # 5244,
 CCNA, CCDA, Nortel NCSE,
 MCSE, CNE, CNX Ethernet


 ""Howard C. Berkowitz"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  You may need a combination of devices to get optimal load balancing,
  and the solution may very well depend on the protocols involved.  One
  of the problems in our industry is to try to get a single box, with a
  single processor, to do everything well.
 
  It may be appropriate to treat the PIXen (informal plural I just
  invented, after the plural of DEC VAX being VAXen) as a cluster (boy,
  am I sounding VAX-ish).  The actual load balancing would be done on
  Local Directors (or similar TCP session level load distributors)
  between the PIXen and the routers, potentially both on the inside and
  outside.
 
  If your management demands that everything be done on the PIX, you
  might quote Samuel Johnson to them:  "the important thing about a dog
  walking on his hind legs is not how well he does it, but that he does
  it at all."
 
 
  They won't load balance natively.  The problem with getting a load
 balancer
  before the PIX is that you either have it on the inside balancing
 outbound
  traffic or outside balancing inbound traffic.  The PIX needs a static
 route
  for traffic going the other direction and you can't have multiple
default
  routes on a PIX.  The interface without the load balancer would have to
 have
  some kind of rigged BGP or something like that to distribute coming to
 the
  pixes or you'll have routing issues.
 
  Remember that the finest granularity of which BGP is aware is a
  subnet, ignoring global prefix length issues. As soon as you start to
  deal with things on a server level, you are talking about things that
  operate at Layer 4 or 7, and that standard routing doesn't understand
  (ignoring the ill-defined term content routing, which simply injects
  layer 7 information into the routing system).
 
  
  I could be wrong...just my first thougth on the situationwithout
 COFFEE.
  
  I don't think there's any easy way to do this...
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "Rossetti, Stan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:01 AM
  Subject: Load Balancing Across Multiple PIX
  
  
Hello Everyone,
  
Does anybody know if it is possible to load balance across multiple
 PIX
firewalls?  I have looked at numerous Cisco web pages, but never any
  mention
of load balancing.  I have talked to a sales engineer and he has
said
 that
to get 1GB of throughput from a PIX firewall, you need to install 3
 PIX
firewalls and do load balancing across them.  The max throughput
from
 one
PIX is 370MBps.  Of course, I can't get the sales engineer to return
 my
  call
now.  Doe anyone know if this is true?  Do you have to have 3 PIX to
 do
  load
balancing?  I would like to just do load balancing across 2 PIX
 firewalls.
Is this possible?
  
Thanks in advance.
  
  
  
  
Thanks
  
Stan Rossetti
  
  
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Re: IS-IS on Lab Exam

2001-03-05 Thread Groupstudy

Alas CLNS and IS-IS are not one and the same.   Thus you may well find IS-IS
on your lab!

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 All,
 Since ISO CLNS has been removed from the lab exam does this include
 Integrated IS-IS in an IP environment?


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Re: EBGP multihop question

2001-02-25 Thread Groupstudy

There would not be an IGP running between F and D or F and E.  F only has a
neighbor statement to D to allow it to establish a peering relationship with
it.  The neighbor 192.168.12.1 ebgp-multihop statement in F's BGP routing
process allows this to work.  There would not be a 192.168.12.0 network in
F's routing table unless D has the statement 'network 192.168.12.0' in its
own BGP routing process allowing it to advertise that network to other As'.


- Original Message -
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To: cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chris Williams
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jim Coyne [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Victor Alba
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Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 10:40 AM
Subject: EBGP multihop question


 Take a look at Halabi (First Edition) p. 300, and riddle me this regarding
 Figure 10-1:

 How does network 192.68.12.0 get into RTF's routing table?  The EBGP
session
 needs to be established before RTF can accept any routes from RTD.  But
how
 can the session be established before RTF knows how to route packets to
RTD?

 The only thing I can think of would be a static route.  There really is no
 feasible way to run an IGP between RTF and that network.  However, Halabi
 doesn't include a static route in his configuration.

 (And if someone wants to post which page this is in the Second Edition,
 please do.  I'm thinking about buying it, but I'm too cheap at this point.
 ;-)

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Re: EBGP multihop question

2001-02-25 Thread Groupstudy

I see what your saying now.  All three routers (F,D,E) are running OSPF on
the 192.168.0.0 network!  This is a poor scenario because that would never
happen in the real world.

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From: Bradley J. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: EBGP multihop question


 I agree with everything you say.  But it doesn't answer my question. ;-)
 Think in terms of basic routing: how does RTF ping RTD?  There's no entry
in
 its routing table for 192.68.12.0.  As you say, there wouldn't be an IGP
 running between RTF and RTD.  No way to ping between them, therefore no
BGP
 relationship will be established, even though there's a neighbor statement
 in both routers' configurations.  Therefore, a static route would have to
be
 in RTF and RTD's config, right?



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 Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 2:55 PM
 Subject: Re: EBGP multihop question


 There would not be an IGP running between F and D or F and E.  F only has
a
 neighbor statement to D to allow it to establish a peering relationship
with
 it.  The neighbor 192.168.12.1 ebgp-multihop statement in F's BGP routing
 process allows this to work.  There would not be a 192.168.12.0 network in
 F's routing table unless D has the statement 'network 192.168.12.0' in its
 own BGP routing process allowing it to advertise that network to other
As'.


 - Original Message -
 From: Bradley J. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chris Williams
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Neil Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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 Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 10:40 AM
 Subject: EBGP multihop question


  Take a look at Halabi (First Edition) p. 300, and riddle me this
regarding
  Figure 10-1:
 
  How does network 192.68.12.0 get into RTF's routing table?  The EBGP
 session
  needs to be established before RTF can accept any routes from RTD.  But
 how
  can the session be established before RTF knows how to route packets to
 RTD?
 
  The only thing I can think of would be a static route.  There really is
no
  feasible way to run an IGP between RTF and that network.  However,
Halabi
  doesn't include a static route in his configuration.
 
  (And if someone wants to post which page this is in the Second Edition,
  please do.  I'm thinking about buying it, but I'm too cheap at this
point.
  ;-)
 
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Re: 4 Ethernet Int

2001-02-22 Thread Groupstudy

I don't believe Cisco makes a 4 port FE module for either the 2600 or 3600
series routers.

The 3640 could support 4 * 1 port FE modules.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: 4 Ethernet Int


 nope FE modules are not supported by the 2600 range...

 go ahead try it.

 It is to do with the architecture of the router.

 Regards,

 Jason Baker
 Network Engineer
 MCSE, CCNA



 -Original Message-
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 Subject: Re: 4 Ethernet Int


 How about a 2621 with two FE WIC's?



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  Does anyone know what the smallest Cisco router I can place 4 routable
 fast
  ethernet interfaces might be?
 
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Re: Routing loops with ibgp and ospf running Backbones

2001-02-22 Thread Groupstudy

Use distribute lists on each router to restrict the networks they advertise.
Jeff Doyles book and CCO have some good examples to help you understand.

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Subject: Routing loops with ibgp and ospf running Backbones


 Hi !

 I have the following network setup running ospf, ibgp within the Domain
and ebgp beween AS.

 GW: Gateway router BB: Backbone Router






 Note: BB and GW router is connected directly (cross-connect) and the Area0
is extended from BB to GW router.

 Pre-requisite: LAN on Area 11 shud able to access both the routers for
redundancy.

 Implementation : Implemented HSRP between BB and GW and extended the Area
0 using cross ethernet back to back cable between BB and GW.

 Route-reflectors are confgured on IBGP routers and EBGP on GW routers.
Both the GW routers are connected to the same ISP.

 Preoblem : sometimes I am getting routing loop between BB and GW routers
when trying from Area 11 LAN( default Gateway for all the machines is GW).

 Action taken: Checked the ip route and gound that the defualt gateway on
GW is pointing to Internet interface and for BB it is pointing to GW. The
looping occured between the back to back connected interface.

 Can any body suggests the way to troubleshoot the problem





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Re: Good book on Catalyst Switches

2001-02-22 Thread Groupstudy

Cisco Press: 'Cisco LAN switching' by Kennedy Clark is heads above
everything else.  It is a little dated now though so it doesn't cover the
newest technologies.

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Subject: Good book on Catalyst Switches


 Hi All!

 I am looking for your recommendations on a(some) good book(s) on Catalyst
 switches. I have several 4000 and 5000 switches and want to get to know
them
 better, in addition to preparing for exams. All input greatly appreciated.

 Jon

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Re: Equal cost switching

2001-02-18 Thread Groupstudy

Spanning Tree's job is to eliminate multiple paths to a single destination.
If it finds more than one path it will put one of them into blocking mode to
ensure a loop free path.   Remember, Spanning Tree runs at layer two and has
no concept bandwidth.  If you need to setup equal cost paths to a certain
destination, you will need to do it at layers above layer two.

Pick up a copy of Radia Perlmans 'Interconnections' second edition.  Radia
is the primary authority on the Spanning Tree algorithm, she will enlighten
you.  This is also good solid study for deeper networking knowledge.

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 Spanning tree is supposed to choose the one best switched path.  But if
you
 set up two equal cost paths, will it use both?  Is there a way to force it
 to use the bandwidth from both paths?

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Re: Equal cost switching

2001-02-18 Thread Groupstudy

Give me an example of a network where layer two has no broadcasts please...

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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Equal cost switching


 Actually, the main reason to eliminate multiple paths is because of
 broadcast at layer 2. Lay 2 devices have to this forward broadcast, and
 multiple paths to a single destination will cause broadcast storm. Layer 3
 devices do not have this problem only because they do not forward
broadcast,
 they either read it or drop it. So if there is a network with no layer 2
 broadcast, you do not need spanning tree at all. Of course, you can also
 disable it when you are sure there is no duplicated path exists.

 Regards,
 Jack




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  Spanning Tree's job is to eliminate multiple paths to a single
 destination.
  If it finds more than one path it will put one of them into blocking
mode
 to
  ensure a loop free path.   Remember, Spanning Tree runs at layer two and
 has
  no concept bandwidth.  If you need to setup equal cost paths to a
certain
  destination, you will need to do it at layers above layer two.
 
  Pick up a copy of Radia Perlmans 'Interconnections' second edition.
Radia
  is the primary authority on the Spanning Tree algorithm, she will
 enlighten
  you.  This is also good solid study for deeper networking knowledge.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: AndyD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 8:58 AM
  Subject: Equal cost switching
 
 
   Spanning tree is supposed to choose the one best switched path.  But
if
  you
   set up two equal cost paths, will it use both?  Is there a way to
force
 it
   to use the bandwidth from both paths?
  
   Thanks!
  
  
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Re: PIX and NAT with VPN

2001-02-16 Thread Groupstudy

The PIX does not route. Period.

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Subject: Re: PIX and NAT with VPN


 I'm totally foreign to PIX but I'm just wondering, maybe it's possible to
 use policy-based routing on PIX?

 "Rick Holden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  I have a PIX firewall that is being used for a VPN as well. The problem
is
  all the inside addresses are being translated to public addresses even
 when
  the traffic is destine for the VPN tunnel. I tried the following
commands
  but this seems to block all translations.
  (real IPs have been replaced for security)
 
  access-list nonat permit ip 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.0
  255.255.255.0
  nat (inside) 0 access-list nonat
  global (outside) 1 172.16.10.1 net 255.255.255.255
 
  I also tried using DENY in the access list
  access-list nonat deny ip 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.0
  255.255.255.0
  This didn't work either.
 
  How can I can the traffic destined for the Internet to be translated and
 the
  traffic destined for the VPN not be translated?
 
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Re: Lad scheduling question

2001-02-16 Thread Groupstudy

Hi

So what you are saying is that when I schedule the lab I am not just given
the next available, but have the option to schedule any free date?

Sorry I just want to be prefectly clear as to the options.

John Hardman CCNP MCSE+I

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 You can schedule the date up to one year after the written exam.

 www.cisco.com

 John Hardman wrote:

  Hi All
 
  With a little more study I will pass the written this month, and I am
  starting to wonder more about the process of scheduling the lab.
 
  I plan to use the SJ lab... So here is the question. Can I schedule the
lab
  for a specific date? Yes I know there is a back log till August or
later,
  but I more interested in a longer date, I am thinking 10 or 11 months
after
  the written. I have quite a few big projects coming up at work, and it
will
  be hard to keep my "study" mind set and energy, so the extended time
will
  benefit me.
 
  TIA
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Re: Subnet questions

2001-02-05 Thread Groupstudy

It did not say you had to summarize into one route.  Answer C means you
would need two routes, but  it is better than advertising networks which do
not originate from your domain...

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: Subnet questions



 
   Ok, I looked into the resources that you've referred to, and put a
little
   more thought into this question.

 Make sure the resources cover supernetting and not just subnetting. The
 goal of supernetting is to group routes together so that a router reduces
 the number of routes it tells other routers about. That's very different
 from subnetting where the goal is to subdivide the network number assigned
 to you by your ISP or ARIN.


   So, we're given the networks,
  
   192.168.9.0  (192.168. 1001. )
   192.168.10.0 (192.168. 1010. )
   192.168.11.0 (192.168. 1011. ) and
   192.168.12.0 (192.168. 1100. ).

 The question was, "When using classless supernetting, which route best
 summarizes the following networks?"

 So we're looking for one route that will let us tell other routers about
 our four networks. The possible answers were:

 A)192.168.0.9 / 20 obviously wrong because of the .9 at the end

 B)192.168.0.0 / 16 this could work, but it's less specific than answer
D

 C)192.168.9.0 / 22 this doesn't work because it leaves out
 192.168.12.0, plus it would be stupid to use .9 when the one bit isn't
even
 referred to with a /22. The one bit is in the node ID (suffix) part of the
 addresses.

 D)192.168.8.0 / 21 this works


  
   Keeping in mind that the question asks for the "best" summarization...
 since
   192.168.8.0/21 would include additional networks not mentioned in the
   problem (i.e. 192.168.13.0, 192.168.14.0, etc.), I can see how this
might
   not be the best answer.

 With a /21, the one bit and two bit don't matter so 13 and 14 don't
matter.
 Those bits are in the node part when we use /21.

  
   192.168.9.0/22, on the other hand, is the "best" summarization for the
 first
   three networks.  The last network has no other networks to be
summarized
   with, therefore can be left out of the summarization.

 The goal is to group all four networks. Leaving out one would cause you
not
 to meet that goal. I think D is the right answer.

 Priscilla

  
   Is this the right reasoning for the correct answer being C?
  
  
  
   Regards,
  
   Han-Song Kim
   Network Engineer, CCNP/ MCSE/ MCDBA
   Planetary Networks
   (W)408.745.3065 (C)408.910.7907
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Re: commands, please help

2001-02-05 Thread Groupstudy

Follies are for Friday's please...  You gotta be kidding right?

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 10:55 PM
Subject: commands, please help


 ---Sorry for asking this question, if it's been asked before---
 Anyone know of a good site that publicizes Cisco commands? If so, please
 help.
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Re: Merging two companies

2001-02-05 Thread Groupstudy

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/556/3.html

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From: Rodney Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 6:35 PM
Subject: Merging two companies


 Guys,

 We are merging with another company and plan to connect the two networks
via
 DS3 but in the short term VPN.  The problem is we both use the same
private
 IP ranges.  Is there anyone out there that has gone through this before
and
 would you provide tips or information where I can get a white paper.


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Re: Subnet questions

2001-02-04 Thread Groupstudy

You are exactly right.  Well done.

- Original Message -
From: Han-Song Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Groupstudy' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 1:38 AM
Subject: RE: Subnet questions


 Ok, I looked into the resources that you've referred to, and put a little
 more thought into this question.  I think I can see why the answer could
be
 C on this problem, which makes this question a little tricky.

 If you could bare with me, let me just go through my logic and you can
just
 tell me if I'm on the right track or not.

 So, we're given the networks,

 192.168.9.0  (192.168. 1001. )
 192.168.10.0 (192.168. 1010. )
 192.168.11.0 (192.168. 1011. ) and
 192.168.12.0 (192.168. 1100. ).

 Keeping in mind that the question asks for the "best" summarization...
since
 192.168.8.0/21 would include additional networks not mentioned in the
 problem (i.e. 192.168.13.0, 192.168.14.0, etc.), I can see how this might
 not be the best answer.

 192.168.9.0/22, on the other hand, is the "best" summarization for the
first
 three networks.  The last network has no other networks to be summarized
 with, therefore can be left out of the summarization.

 Is this the right reasoning for the correct answer being C?



 Regards,

 Han-Song Kim
 Network Engineer, CCNP/ MCSE/ MCDBA
 Planetary Networks
 (W)408.745.3065 (C)408.910.7907
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




 -Original Message-----
 From: Groupstudy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Subnet questions


 I don't want to explain, it will take me too long.  There have been a
number
 of threads regarding subnet addressing lately and they had some good
 examples to examine.  Search the archives.

 Be patient, learning to subnet and summarize off the top of your head
 requires some time and practice.  The best way to learn is to just sit
down
 and play with binary.

 Take a look at the following URL's for complete discussions on this topic.
 I think you will get what you need from them:

 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/nd20a.htm

 http://www.3com.com/nsc/501302.html


 - Original Message -
 From: Han-Song Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Groupstudy' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 8:10 PM
 Subject: RE: Subnet questions


  Sorry about the previous response.  I thought you're responding back to
my
  earlier e-mail.  Still, why is the answer to Q3 C, not D?
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Groupstudy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 7:31 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Subnet questions
 
 
  B is the correct answer.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Hunt Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:40 AM
  Subject: Re: Subnet questions
 
 
  
  
   On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Hunt Lee wrote:
  
I have three subnet / route summarization questions but I don't
understand the answer, any help would be greatly appreciated.
   
Q1) Choose the appropriate classless network address and broadcast
address for the IP address 10.6.38.50 with a subnet mask of
255.255.240.0
   
A) 10.6.38.49 and 10.6.38.62
   
B) 10.6.32.0 and 10.6.47.255
   
C) 10.6.38.0 and 10.6.38.255
   
D) 10.0.0.0 and 10.255.255.255
   
Answer is B.
  
   No its not. The answer is 10.6.38.48 and 10.6.38.63. It probably meant
 to
   say classful.
  
Q2) Given a classless route summarization of 72.8.0.0 /13. Which IP
address fall into this scope?
   
A) 72.15.36.8
   
B) 72.13.1.1
   
C) 72.8.20.10
   
D) 72.7.200.100
   
E) 72.16.7.4
   
F) 72.40.1.8
   
Answer is A, B  C - why isn't E the ansewr as well?
  
   The range of 72.8.0.0/13 is 72.8.0.0 - 72.15.255.255. Its 8 Class B's.
  
Q3) When using classless supernetting, which route best summarizes
the following networks?
   
192.168.9.0
192.168.10.0
192.168.11.0
192.168.12.0
   
A) 192.168.0.9 / 20
   
B) 192.168.0.0 / 16
   
C) 192.168.9.0 / 22
   
D) 192.168.8.0 / 21
   
I thought D is the answer, but the answer is C.
  
   A /22 is 4 Class C's, a /21 is 8. I recommand finding or making (to
   actually learn it) a subnet table and just keeping referencing it
until
   you don't need to anymore.
  
   andy
  
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Re: Subnet questions

2001-02-04 Thread Groupstudy

My pleasure.

Now that you have a handle on the subnetting business, take a look at this
thread and see if you can tell this guy what is wrong with his setup, and
why he cannot ping the 10.1.1.1 address.


 Thread:   Frame relay ppoint vs. multi:

What's difference? Why can you not ping my own multipoint interface but
if it is a point to point is does work? See below

interface Serial1
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
!
interface Serial1.1 multipoint
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
 frame-relay interface-dlci 110
!
router igrp 10
 network 10.0.0.0
1
commserver#ping 10.1.1.1

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
.
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
=

--
interface Serial0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no fair-queue
!
interface Serial0.1 point-to-point
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
 frame-relay interface-dlci 110  =20
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 shutdown
!
router igrp 10
 network 10.0.0.0
!
=20
commserver#ping 10.1.1.1
=20
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max =3D =
112/116/128
ms





- Original Message -
From: Han-Song Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Groupstudy' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 2:25 AM
Subject: RE: Subnet questions


 Thank you bunch for helping me realize my mistakes!!  :)

 regards,
 Han-Song



 -Original Message-
 From: Groupstudy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 1:48 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Subnet questions


 You are exactly right.  Well done.

 - Original Message -
 From: Han-Song Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Groupstudy' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 1:38 AM
 Subject: RE: Subnet questions


  Ok, I looked into the resources that you've referred to, and put a
little
  more thought into this question.  I think I can see why the answer could
 be
  C on this problem, which makes this question a little tricky.
 
  If you could bare with me, let me just go through my logic and you can
 just
  tell me if I'm on the right track or not.
 
  So, we're given the networks,
 
  192.168.9.0  (192.168. 1001. )
  192.168.10.0 (192.168. 1010. )
  192.168.11.0 (192.168. 1011. ) and
  192.168.12.0 (192.168. 1100. ).
 
  Keeping in mind that the question asks for the "best" summarization...
 since
  192.168.8.0/21 would include additional networks not mentioned in the
  problem (i.e. 192.168.13.0, 192.168.14.0, etc.), I can see how this
might
  not be the best answer.
 
  192.168.9.0/22, on the other hand, is the "best" summarization for the
 first
  three networks.  The last network has no other networks to be summarized
  with, therefore can be left out of the summarization.
 
  Is this the right reasoning for the correct answer being C?
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Han-Song Kim
  Network Engineer, CCNP/ MCSE/ MCDBA
  Planetary Networks
  (W)408.745.3065 (C)408.910.7907
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Groupstudy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:51 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Subnet questions
 
 
  I don't want to explain, it will take me too long.  There have been a
 number
  of threads regarding subnet addressing lately and they had some good
  examples to examine.  Search the archives.
 
  Be patient, learning to subnet and summarize off the top of your head
  requires some time and practice.  The best way to learn is to just sit
 down
  and play with binary.
 
  Take a look at the following URL's for complete discussions on this
topic.
  I think you will get what you need from them:
 
  http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/nd20a.htm
 
  http://www.3com.com/nsc/501302.html
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Han-Song Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'Groupstudy' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 8:10 PM
  Subject: RE: Subnet questions
 
 
   Sorry about the previous response.  I thought you're responding back
to
 my
   earlier e-mail.  Still, why is the answer to Q3 C, not D?
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Groupstudy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 7:31 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Subnet questions
  
  
   B is the correct answer.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Hunt Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:40 AM
   Subject: Re: Subnet questions
  
  
   
   
On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Hunt Lee wrote:
   
 I have three subnet / route summarization questions but I don't
 understand the answer, any help would be greatly appre

Re: Help me Urgent all CCIES please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2001-02-03 Thread Groupstudy

Dude, the answers to all your questions are not hard to find.  Break out
your UniverCD and get searching.  If you start now you will have all your
answers in a couple of hours.

- Original Message -
From: Ravi N Varma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:52 AM
Subject: Help me Urgent all CCIES please !!!


 Hi there ,

 I am having trouble getting answers for these questions could you please
help me planing to take exam day after
 please help me out

 1.ip datagram contain which of the following
   a,arp packet
   b,bits
   icmp messages
   udp,tcp data



 2. difference between tacas  tacas+

 3.in dlsw environment  when all route explorer sent between dlsw peers how
it will be sent
  a directed broadcast
  b explorer frame
 etc
 4 in x.25 environment if frame error occurs  which one will reset
connection
 There is diagram two routers separated by serial link both ends one host
at each end

 A, Router or Host

 5 same as above but protocol is HDLC in this situation what will happen
 6 what is result of sending a loop up signal to csu/dsu?
 7 what lane resolution protocol do
   all nw protocols address to nsap
 ip address to nsap
 etc
8  nlsp  is-is link sate or distance vector
 9 when bridge receive a frame how it will be forwarded
  to all ports or except disabled ports it will forward to all ports
 10 when tacas does not contain user account what it wiil do
 11 frames are unable to transmit from router though serial link what
happen
   output error
  connection reset etc
 12 characteristics of 4B/5B encoding in fddi
 13 what is meant by tcp slow start
 14 tacas+ has what advantages over tacas?

  waitning for your reply

 Regards,

 sun

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Re: Subnet questions

2001-02-03 Thread Groupstudy

B is the correct answer.

- Original Message -
From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Hunt Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Subnet questions




 On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Hunt Lee wrote:

  I have three subnet / route summarization questions but I don't
  understand the answer, any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Q1) Choose the appropriate classless network address and broadcast
  address for the IP address 10.6.38.50 with a subnet mask of
  255.255.240.0
 
  A) 10.6.38.49 and 10.6.38.62
 
  B) 10.6.32.0 and 10.6.47.255
 
  C) 10.6.38.0 and 10.6.38.255
 
  D) 10.0.0.0 and 10.255.255.255
 
  Answer is B.

 No its not. The answer is 10.6.38.48 and 10.6.38.63. It probably meant to
 say classful.

  Q2) Given a classless route summarization of 72.8.0.0 /13. Which IP
  address fall into this scope?
 
  A) 72.15.36.8
 
  B) 72.13.1.1
 
  C) 72.8.20.10
 
  D) 72.7.200.100
 
  E) 72.16.7.4
 
  F) 72.40.1.8
 
  Answer is A, B  C - why isn't E the ansewr as well?

 The range of 72.8.0.0/13 is 72.8.0.0 - 72.15.255.255. Its 8 Class B's.

  Q3) When using classless supernetting, which route best summarizes
  the following networks?
 
  192.168.9.0
  192.168.10.0
  192.168.11.0
  192.168.12.0
 
  A) 192.168.0.9 / 20
 
  B) 192.168.0.0 / 16
 
  C) 192.168.9.0 / 22
 
  D) 192.168.8.0 / 21
 
  I thought D is the answer, but the answer is C.

 A /22 is 4 Class C's, a /21 is 8. I recommand finding or making (to
 actually learn it) a subnet table and just keeping referencing it until
 you don't need to anymore.

 andy

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Re: Subnet questions

2001-02-03 Thread Groupstudy

I don't want to explain, it will take me too long.  There have been a number
of threads regarding subnet addressing lately and they had some good
examples to examine.  Search the archives.

Be patient, learning to subnet and summarize off the top of your head
requires some time and practice.  The best way to learn is to just sit down
and play with binary.

Take a look at the following URL's for complete discussions on this topic.
I think you will get what you need from them:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/nd20a.htm

http://www.3com.com/nsc/501302.html


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From: Han-Song Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Groupstudy' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 8:10 PM
Subject: RE: Subnet questions


 Sorry about the previous response.  I thought you're responding back to my
 earlier e-mail.  Still, why is the answer to Q3 C, not D?



 -Original Message-
 From: Groupstudy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 7:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Subnet questions


 B is the correct answer.

 - Original Message -
 From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Hunt Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:40 AM
 Subject: Re: Subnet questions


 
 
  On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Hunt Lee wrote:
 
   I have three subnet / route summarization questions but I don't
   understand the answer, any help would be greatly appreciated.
  
   Q1) Choose the appropriate classless network address and broadcast
   address for the IP address 10.6.38.50 with a subnet mask of
   255.255.240.0
  
   A) 10.6.38.49 and 10.6.38.62
  
   B) 10.6.32.0 and 10.6.47.255
  
   C) 10.6.38.0 and 10.6.38.255
  
   D) 10.0.0.0 and 10.255.255.255
  
   Answer is B.
 
  No its not. The answer is 10.6.38.48 and 10.6.38.63. It probably meant
to
  say classful.
 
   Q2) Given a classless route summarization of 72.8.0.0 /13. Which IP
   address fall into this scope?
  
   A) 72.15.36.8
  
   B) 72.13.1.1
  
   C) 72.8.20.10
  
   D) 72.7.200.100
  
   E) 72.16.7.4
  
   F) 72.40.1.8
  
   Answer is A, B  C - why isn't E the ansewr as well?
 
  The range of 72.8.0.0/13 is 72.8.0.0 - 72.15.255.255. Its 8 Class B's.
 
   Q3) When using classless supernetting, which route best summarizes
   the following networks?
  
   192.168.9.0
   192.168.10.0
   192.168.11.0
   192.168.12.0
  
   A) 192.168.0.9 / 20
  
   B) 192.168.0.0 / 16
  
   C) 192.168.9.0 / 22
  
   D) 192.168.8.0 / 21
  
   I thought D is the answer, but the answer is C.
 
  A /22 is 4 Class C's, a /21 is 8. I recommand finding or making (to
  actually learn it) a subnet table and just keeping referencing it until
  you don't need to anymore.
 
  andy
 
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Re: VLAN routing on 2600

2001-02-03 Thread Groupstudy

The 2620 and 2621 have fast ethernet ports and support trunking with IP Plus
IOS.

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To: Daniel Cotts [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'kz' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: VLAN routing on 2600


 except 2600's don't do the fe thing..


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 Sent: Friday, 02 February, 2001 10:26
 Subject: RE: VLAN routing on 2600


  Those with 100Mbs ports.
 
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   Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 4:33 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: VLAN routing on 2600
  
  
   Hi
  
   Is it possible to perform VLAN routing on 2600 routers?
  
   thanx
   kz
  
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Re: DLSW+ question

2001-01-30 Thread Groupstudy

IRB is used to perform a limited form of Ethernet to Token Ring
routing/bridging.  It was somewhat useful prior to Ciscos implementation of
Source-Route Translational bridging which has a much richer feature set and
capability.  DLSW performs Ethernet to Token-Ring translation automatically
and although possible, it is very unlikely you would need to have both IRB
and DLSW configured on the same router.

Anyway, to answer the original post, your configs look OK but we really need
more info to
troubleshoot.  My immediate thoughts is whether DLSW can operate over PPP
encapsulation. I would try HDLC and see if that helps.  If you have an
access list on either serial port, make sure it opens up the correct tcp
ports to allow DLSW to traverse the wire.  The easiest way is just to
temporarily remove the access list and see how you fare.  I believe the
correct ports are 2065, 1981, 1982 and 1983.  Make sure loopback interfaces
are also in the same routing domain as your peer statements, looks like they
are but...


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From: Richard Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: DLSW+ question


 You are currently on the ethernet interface, try adding the following
command
 on both routers:

 bridge irb
 brigde 1 route ip

 Rich

 On Jan 30,  6:48pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] chatted about:
  Subject:DLSW+ question
 
  I am trying to setup two routers with DLSW+ , when I do with routing ,I
can'=
  t=20
  ping each other loopback interfaces for some reason.=20
 
 
  Hostname DCE_Router
  dlsw local-peer peer-id 10.1.1.1
  dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 10.1.1.2
  dlsw bridge-group 1
 
  Loopback0
  =A0 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 
  interface Ethernet0
  ip address 150.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  bridge-group 1
 
  interface Serial0
  ip address 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0
  encapsulation ppp
  clockrate 64000
 
 
  bridge 1 protocol ieee
 
  router eigrp 100
  network 10.0.0.0
  redistribute connected
 
  ___
 
  Hostname DTE_Router
  dlsw local-peer peer-id 10.1.1.2
  dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 10.1.1.1
  dlsw bridge-group 1
 
  Loopback0
  =A0 ip address 10.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
 
  interface Ethernet0
  ip address 160.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
  bridge-group 1
 
  interface Serial0
  ip address 10.1.2.2 255.255.255.0
  encapsulation ppp
 
 
  bridge 1 protocol ieee
 
 
 
  router eigrp 100
  network 10.0.0.0
  redistribute connected
 
 
 
 
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Re: IS IS

2001-01-26 Thread Groupstudy

Certainly is.

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Subject: IS IS


 Is IS-IS on the R/S lab exam?  Thanks.


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What's up with the CCIE lab newsgroup?

2001-01-26 Thread Groupstudy



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Re: Ip addressing question

2001-01-25 Thread Groupstudy

Yes it is.  The 172.16.4.255 ip address would be the 172.16.4.252 subnet
broadcast address though.
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Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: Ip addressing question


 Ok, so subnet zero is not usable, I understand that.
  Is the last subnet usable even though it contains the 255  portion of the
 address?

 What subnets to we get from this combo?...
 First subnet=  172.16.4.4
 Second subnet= 172.16.4.8
 Third subnet=  172.16.4.12
 ...
 Last subnet=   172.16.4.252



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Re: Certifications on resumes

2001-01-25 Thread Groupstudy

CCNA is a prerequisite to the CCNP, therefore it is implied to those that
know.   My personal opinion is that anyone who needs to append all of their
cert letters to their name is either trying too hard to impress someone or,
very in-confident in their abilities.

You can have CCNA, CCNP, MCSE, CNE, Net+, blah blah blah on the end of your
name, but as soon as you open your mouth, your credibility will be known to
anyone around you that has any idea themselves.

If you want to be 'the man', know your sh**, period.  Save the letters for
your resume.

CCIE still rings a pretty sound though!

- Original Message -
From: Robert Padjen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:27 AM
Subject: Certifications on resumes


 I was asked an interesting question this morning by a
 friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically they
 wanted to know if they should now remove the CCNA from
 their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP.

 I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP implies
 the CCNA, and therefore one would only list their
 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers said
 no, list it all.

 Please chime in with your position - unicast if your
 just sending a vote and multicast if you are raising a
 discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an
 improper use of the board.

 Thanks.

 =
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Re: Token Ring Loopback

2001-01-16 Thread Groupstudy

If you dont need it plugged into anything, why not just create a virtual
token ring interface?

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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 9:15 PM
Subject: Token Ring Loopback


 Any way to fake a Token Ring Interface into thinking it's up when it's =
 not plugged into anything?



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Re: Challenging !

2001-01-12 Thread Groupstudy

According to the first paragraph it should set the priority back to 0.

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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: Challenging !



 I been it on it since 4am. Still can't figure that one out ...

 From Cisco:

 "After the token is claimed and changed to an information frame, only
stations with priority higher than the trasmitting station can reserve the
token for the next pass around the network. When the next token is
generated, it includes the highest priority of the reserving station.
Stations that raise a token's priority level must reinstate the previous
lower priority level after their transmission is complete"

 CASE SCENARIO:

 I have 3 stations: A , B, and C Their resective priorities are 1 , 4, and
5. Station X Y Z have priority 0
 Station A grabs the token (the priority at the time was 0) and and put
data on it. While it goes around the ring, station B reserves the token for
itself. When the token comes back to station A (we assume  X was the
destination), A creates a new token with priority 4 and no reservation set.

 QUESTIONS:

 Question: Is the last statement of my case scenario correct or is it the
other way arround? (A creates a new token ring with the previous priority: 0
and set the reservation to 4).

 DIAGRAM: The ring

 A---W---BCX-
 |Z---Y-|

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Re: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster

2001-01-10 Thread Groupstudy

Unfortunately, anyone that is not getting hands on experience will quickly
forget pretty much everything they learned during their studies -in a matter
of weeks.  This fact quickly turns CCNP's back into CCNA's!

Best of luck to you.

- Original Message -
From: jeongwoo park [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Groupstudy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:55 PM
Subject: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster


 Hi group members!!
 I am the original poster of this thread.
 First of all, I appreciate your encouragements,
 concerns and even criticizing point. I received more
 replies than I expected.

 There were some people who made a point on removing my
 ccnp cert from my resume.
 It was not only thoughtful suggestion, but also scary
 suggestion, because I felt that removing it from my
 resume was like 7 months of ccnp prep going down the
 drain all of a sudden.
 However, I made up my mind not remove it.
 My intension of listing ccnp on my resume was to show
 how much interest I have on networking. I believe that
 there is clear difference between ccna without
 experience and ccnp without experience. If I were
 employer, I would hire ccnp without experience because
 there is obviously difference between these two guys
 in terms of the amount of technical knowledge and
 potential performance that he or she might make.
 As some members mentioned, lots of people consider
 their careers from IT industry because of money. I
 agree with them not only I am partly one of them, but
 also money can be one of strong motivation in
 advancing their living condition. But money doesn't
 give me enough motivation as my interest in networking
 does. I didn't even consider CCNP. I was going to
 start to look for a job after I got MCSE and CCNA
 certifications.
 But I couldn't stop my interest in knowing more on
 network knowledge.

 There might be some people who would say, " none of
 these guys would be hired."
 Well, the biggest irony that I have is that who is
 going to start his or her career in IT industry if
 everyone is looking for only experienced engineer.
 That is why I am looking for entry level of job. I
 wouldn't be able to perform in the beginning as much
 as years of experienced CCNP would do. But I am sure
 that I could learn things faster than most of
 entry-level job applicants.
 If nobody offers me a job, I would go for CCIE without
 any corporation experience. I would buy network
 devices, and take ccie lab classes. I wonder if there
 is anyone who made ccie without any corporation
 experience. I wish there were. If not, I will be the
 first one who becomes ccie without experience. I am
 not talking about home-network or training school
 network experience. I am talking about the experience
 that can be obtained as a network engineer.
 I know it would be harder to become ccie without real
 world experience, but I believe that lots of members
 who showed their concern would be with me.
 When I become CCIE, I will put nothing but CCIE, and
 see if anyone gives me job offer.
 I wonder if people who emphasizes on only experience
 still wouldn't hire me.

 For the people who are already out there and working
 for company without any certification, I respect them
 because they might have had harder time on getting a
 job than I do.

 Since I posted my message, I had some job interviews.
 Well, I will see how it will go.
 Once again, Thanks you for encouragement and advices.
 I will definitely let you know if I got hired.


 jeongwoo



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Re: Disappointed with ccnp!!

2001-01-08 Thread Groupstudy

CCNP level candidates would be expected to perform to a certain level.  Your
lack of experience combined with the CCNP is a red flag.  It is very
unlikely you can perform to the level of most CCNP's.

I recommend dropping the CCNP from your resume right now and aim at landing
an entry level network position anywhere you can to begin accumulating
experience (the most important factor in IT).  Shortly after landing your
position your could then announce your having reached CCNP.   This would
benefit you in a few ways, first you will not be given tasks you cannot
handle which will permit you to hold your job.  Secondly, a CCNA with no
experience is not going to get much less salary than a CCNP without any
experience.   Therefore, after you land your first job and announce your
newly aquired CCNP, you will probably get yourself a decent raise which
would probably put you at or above where you would have entered with CCNP.
Plus you won't have to wait months to find a job.





- Original Message -
From: park jeongwoo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 7:42 PM
Subject: Disappointed with ccnp!!


 Hi group members.
 I need your help.
 I am having a hard time on finding a job.
 I recently got ccnp certification and looking for the
 entry level of job for network engineer.
 I am living in San Francisco, and graduated from
 college less than a year ago.
 I have less than a year of network experience that I
 got from school computer lab.
 I had a harder time finding a job before I became
 ccnp. So I studied hard believing that  ccnp would get
 me somewhere at least as a entry level network
 engineer. Now I am kind of confused and disappointed
 with the fact that I am still having a hard time
 finding a job even with ccnp certification.
 I feel like I need more cisco certifications such as
 ccda, ccdp.
 Would these certification ever help me find job?
 It is really discouraging that cisco certification
 doesn't help me much find a job at this point, because
 I am also pursuing ccie too. I have to ask myself what
 is the point of getting cisco certification.
 Lots of CCNAs are having a job. Why not ccnp?

 Could somebody tell me why it goes like this, and what
 I should do?
 Am I looking for wrong job?

 I will appreiciate your input.

 jeongwoo

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Re: Help wanted from my studymates in Canada

2001-01-01 Thread Groupstudy

Your Visa has expired.

- Original Message -
From: kaushal Bhatt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 9:30 PM
Subject: Help wanted from my studymates in Canada


 Dear Friends,

 Wish u all a very happy new year.

 This help is bit out of way, so pl. bear with me.

 I am from India and I recently got my immigration visa for Canada, my =
 concerns are

 1) How is job prospect for CCNA in Canada=20
 (I have over 3 and half years of exp. in system and network =
 administration of NT, Netware, Linux and Unix. I am also maintaining our =
 company's network)
 I am ccna and mcp. Also I certified Unix admin. from brainbench.

 2)In which area of Canada jobs prospects are more

 3) Can u recommend any placement agencies who can assist me in getting a =
 proper opening.

 4)When is the right time to land in Canada(in terms of weather) My visa =
 is valid upto 6-5-2000


 Thanking u all=20

 Kaushal

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Re: Router 1700 showing Junk

2000-12-31 Thread Groupstudy

There are a couple of things this could be:

1: config-register on router  (most likely)
2: Hyperterminal settings on PC (probably not if you tried multiple PC's)

It is probably the config-register on the router.  Search CCO for 1700
password recovery and use the techniques to change your config-register back
to its default which is probably 0x2102.

Check the settings on your PC terminal emulator.  They should be set to 8
bits, no parity, 1 stop bit and 9600 baud.

- Original Message -
From: Hitesh Pathak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 3:31 AM
Subject: Router 1700 showing Junk


 Dear All,

 I'm having a problem with my 1700 series router. The problem is whenever I
 start my router it shows continously junk characters on the console.
 Nothing seems to be working. i have tried changing diff PC as well as
 console cable. Also I have checked for terminal settings like Baud rate ,
 stop bits , Flow control etceverything is perfect. I am using windows
 98 as a terminal (Hyper Terminal).

 Can anyone help me on this?can it be a DRAM corruption problem. Router
 has 8 mb of DRAM.

 many thanks in advance.



 
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Swap 2520 for a 2522

2000-12-29 Thread Groupstudy

I know this is really not the place to this, and apologize in advance.

I need a Cisco 2522 (Don't care how much memory it has, as long as it =
runs) and would be willing trade 2520 with 16/16 and 12.1 Enterprise/FW =
Plus IPSec 56 IOS for one. I will also pay for all shipping costs so it =
does not cost you anything to trade.  =20

Let me know if interested.

Thank You

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Interface backup

2000-12-27 Thread Groupstudy

Once you make a BRI interface a backup to say a serial interface, does =
it lock it down so that it is not useable for any other purposes?

eg:
interface serial 0
 backup load 60 5
 backup interface bri 0

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Re: Dialup over modem problem

2000-10-02 Thread Groupstudy

hostname Dialer

interface Loopback0
 no ip address

interface Async1
 no ip address
 encapsulation ppp
 async default routing
 async mode dedicated
 dialer in-band
 dialer rotary-group 0
!
interface Dialer0
 ip address 192.168.100.10 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer in-band
 dialer map snapshot 1 name Answer xx7063
 dialer map ip 192.168.100.11 name Answer broadcast xx7063
 dialer-group 1
 snapshot server 5 dialer
 ppp authentication chap
!





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news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].
com...
 Hello all,

 Trying to connect 2 2500 series router over dialup connection. Router will
 dial and connect to other router, but I can't ping the other address. I've
 tried assigning IP's to the Async interfaces, no IP's on loopback, using
 IP's on both, same subnet, different subnets.

 Any ideas? Sample configs welcome. URL's welcome.

 Thanks,
 Ken

 Dialer#sho runn
 Building configuration...

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 11.2
 no service password-encryption
 no service udp-small-servers
 no service tcp-small-servers
 !
 hostname Dialer
 !
 enable secret 5 $1$gZVO$26a.DvC.SKFDAD9HlADo/1
 enable password 
 !
 no ip domain-lookup
 chat-script rstmdm "" "ATFS0=1B1C1D2H1K1M4R2" OK
 chat-script dialnum ABORT ERROR ABORT BUSY "" "ATDT\T" TIMEOUT 60 CONNECT
 !
 interface Loopback0
  ip address 192.168.100.10 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Serial0
  no ip address
  shutdown
 !
 interface Serial1
  no ip address
  shutdown
 !
 interface TokenRing0
  no ip address
  shutdown
 !
 interface BRI0
  no ip address
  shutdown
 !
 interface Async1
  no ip address
  encapsulation ppp
  async default routing
  async mode dedicated
  dialer in-band
  dialer rotary-group 0
 !
 interface Dialer0
  no ip address
  encapsulation ppp
  dialer in-band
  dialer map snapshot 1 name Answer xx7063
  dialer map ip 192.168.100.11 name Answer broadcast xx7063
  dialer-group 1
  snapshot server 5 dialer
  ppp authentication chap
 !
 router rip
  version 2
  network 192.168.100.0
  no auto-summary
 !
 ip classless
 dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
 !
 line con 0
  password xx
  login
 line aux 0
  script dialer dialnum
  script reset rstnum
  modem InOut
  transport input all
  stopbits 1
  rxspeed 38400
  txspeed 38400
  flowcontrol hardware
 line vty 0 4
  password xx
  login
 !
 end

 Answer#sho runn
 Building configuration...

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 11.2
 no service password-encryption
 no service udp-small-servers
 no service tcp-small-servers
 !
 hostname Answer
 !
 enable secret 5 $1$jzAd$DWjQz/2NZm8DHj0roOEMX/
 enable password 
 !
 username Dialer password 0 xx
 no ip domain-lookup
 chat-script rstmdm "" "ATFS0=1B1C1D2H1K1M4R2" OK
 chat-script dialnum ABORT ERROR ABORT BUSY "" "ATDT\T" TIMEOUT 60 CONNECT
 !
 interface Loopback0
  ip address 192.168.100.11 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Ethernet0
  no ip address
  no mop enabled
 !
 interface Serial0
  no ip address
  shutdown
  no fair-queue
 !
 interface Serial1
  no ip address
  shutdown
 !
 interface TokenRing0
  no ip address
  shutdown
 !
 interface Async1
  no ip address
  encapsulation ppp
  async default routing
  async mode dedicated
  dialer in-band
  dialer rotary-group 0
 !
 interface Dialer0
  ip unnumbered TokenRing0
  encapsulation ppp
  dialer in-band
  dialer map snapshot 1 name Dialer xx9548
  dialer map ip 192.168.100.10 name Dialer broadcast xx9548
  dialer-group 1
  snapshot client 5 360 dialer
  ppp authentication chap
 !
 router rip
  version 2
  network 192.168.100.0
  no auto-summary
 !
 ip classless
 dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
 !
 line con 0
  password xx
  login
 line aux 0
  script dialer dialnum
  script reset rstmdm
  modem InOut
  transport input all
  stopbits 1
  rxspeed 38400
  txspeed 38400
  flowcontrol hardware
 line vty 0 4
  password xx
  login
 !
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Have you tried adding the IP address to the dialer interface as below?

Hope this Helps


 Glen


hostname Dialer

interface Loopback0
 no ip address

interface Async1
 no ip address
 encapsulation ppp
 async default routing
 async mode dedicated
 dialer in-band
 dialer rotary-group 0
!
interface Dialer0
 ip address 192.168.100.10 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer in-band
 dialer map snapshot 1 name Answer xx7063
 dialer map ip 192.168.100.11 name Answer broadcast xx7063
 dialer-group 1
 snapshot server 5 dialer
 ppp authentication chap
!




!
hostname Answer
!
interface Loopback0
 no ip address
!
interface Async1
 no ip address
 encapsulation ppp
 async default routing
 async mode dedicated
 dialer 

Which TCP UDP port need to open for Exchange/ Outlook MAPI4 communication

2000-08-16 Thread Groupstudy

Does anybody know which ports are used for Outlook to communicate with MS
Exchange server?

Thanks

Ruihai


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Re: no access to router

2000-07-30 Thread groupstudy

Hi, i am not using flow control on the laptop and i am sure the lap top is
ok ,I can get access to the other 2514 using same cable and same laptop
without problem .
  some people said it is possible to use aux via a null modem cable , can
you specify a little bit more in detail??
Thanks

neal rauhauser wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]...

   Sounds like you have flow control enabled on the PC port you're using to
connect to the router.



groupstudy wrote:

 too bad , i will throw my 2503 out of window ,kiding..,thanks anyway
 ElephantChild wrote in message ...
 On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, groupstudy wrote:
 
 I got a cisco 2503 . I can't get access to the console except that
i
 can
  see the information in the terminal window but can't not type .and
  unfortunately I lost the telnet password and enable password.
 
 Do the same cable and terminal emulator work with other routers? If tey
 do, check that the cable is properly seated and that there isn't dirt in
 the console port on the router. If it still doesn't work, the router
 may be set up for software flow control, or hardware flow control, or
 none at all. Try fiddling with the flow control setup on your terminal
 emulator and see what happens.
 
 If you have a null modem cable, you may also try the aux port.
 
my question is whether doing a password recovery to this router
without
  getting access to the console port is possible ??
 
 No.
 
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its register problem!!

2000-07-30 Thread groupstudy

Hi Group
   I found that the reg was somehow changed to 0x2142 and that 's why i lost
the config every time it reboots.  I used to think it might be a problem of
NVRAM because this is a very old router while didn't check the nvram .
   Now the problem is solved. Thanks for all your help .


"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
I've never actually used the software myself.  I still wonder why he is
loosing the config every time the router reloads.  It sounds like the
config-register is either set wrong or he has a hardware problem.

I'll have to try the software loader one of these days.  Thanks for the
link.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 2:20 AM
To: Aaron K. Dixon; groupstudy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Aaron, I've had pretty good luck doing upgrades through Cisco router
software loader. Recently upped my 2501's using the tool. Perhaps
"groupstudy" might consider the download. It's free at
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/rsl

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Aaron K. Dixon
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 10:37 PM
To: groupstudy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: unable to upgrade image to 2514

Try the method that I listed about booting in boot mode and then doing the
upgrade.  If you're in boot mode a reload won't be necessary.  Are you sure
that you're config-reg is set correctly.  If it's set to 0x2142 the
configuration will be ignored upon reload.  If you do a show start the
config will be there, but not in a show run.  Could you send a show ver?

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
groupstudy
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 12:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Hi Aaron
  Thanks for your reply, but I did the same upgrade to my 2501,and it's
working .
  the tftp server  is connected through the ethernet port while it's not
accessible to tftp server due to the lose of configure after the reload
. Well i found this additional issue ,the router to which i am gonna
give a upgrade is now losing its NVRAM info every time it is reloaded or
power on/off, I think that's why the router is not accessible to the tftp
server anymore after the reload during the upgrade---because my 2514 can
not
'remember' the startup-configuration !!  How am i gonna do now .

"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
On a 2500 you should see reload requested.  You can't put an image with
the
router running unless it's in boot mode or you have your flash
partitioned.
The 2500 runs from flash so it reloads the router in boot mode and tries
to
copy the flash.  Across what medium does the router reach the tftp server?
Some things don't work well in boot mode depending on the version of your
boot rom's.  What version of boot rom's do you have?  Can you send a sh
version?

Try manually putting your router in boot mode. ie change config-reg to
0x2101 and rebooting the router.  Then ensure that you have connectivity
to
your tftp server.  If you do then you can load a new image without the
reload.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
groupstudy
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Hi group
   I am unable to upgrade system software from 10.3 to 12.0(3)to my 2514
for
some reason ,please help.
system memory is :4M main and 8M flash:


2514#copy tftp flash
   NOTICE  
Flash load helper v1.0
This process will accept the copy options and then terminate
the current system image to use the ROM based image for the copy.
Routing functionality will not be available during that time.
If you are logged in via telnet, this connection will terminate.
Users with console access can see the results of the copy operation.
   
Proceed? [confirm]y

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Address or name of remote host [255.255.255.255]? 20.20.20.21
Source file name? c2500-is-l_120-3.bin
Destination file name [c2500-is-l_120-3.bin]?
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21...
Loading c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 (via Ethernet1): ! [OK]

Erase flash device before writing? [confirm]y
Flash contains files. Are you sure you want to erase? [confirm]y

Copy 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' from server
  as 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' into Flash WITH erase? [yes/no]y
=notice below==shouldnot happen ===
%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ...

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes us

no access to router

2000-07-29 Thread groupstudy

Hi group
   I got a cisco 2503 . I can't get access to the console except that i can
see the information in the terminal window but can't not type .and
unfortunately I lost the telnet password and enable password.
  my question is whether doing a password recovery to this router without
getting access to the console port is possible ??
thanks


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Re: no access to router

2000-07-29 Thread groupstudy

too bad , i will throw my 2503 out of window ,kiding..,thanks anyway
ElephantChild wrote in message ...
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, groupstudy wrote:

I got a cisco 2503 . I can't get access to the console except that i
can
 see the information in the terminal window but can't not type .and
 unfortunately I lost the telnet password and enable password.

Do the same cable and terminal emulator work with other routers? If tey
do, check that the cable is properly seated and that there isn't dirt in
the console port on the router. If it still doesn't work, the router
may be set up for software flow control, or hardware flow control, or
none at all. Try fiddling with the flow control setup on your terminal
emulator and see what happens.

If you have a null modem cable, you may also try the aux port.

   my question is whether doing a password recovery to this router without
 getting access to the console port is possible ??

No.

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unable to upgrade image to 2514

2000-07-29 Thread groupstudy

Hi group
   I am unable to upgrade system software from 10.3 to 12.0(3)to my 2514 for
some reason ,please help.
system memory is :4M main and 8M flash:


2514#copy tftp flash
   NOTICE  
Flash load helper v1.0
This process will accept the copy options and then terminate
the current system image to use the ROM based image for the copy.
Routing functionality will not be available during that time.
If you are logged in via telnet, this connection will terminate.
Users with console access can see the results of the copy operation.
   
Proceed? [confirm]y

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Address or name of remote host [255.255.255.255]? 20.20.20.21
Source file name? c2500-is-l_120-3.bin
Destination file name [c2500-is-l_120-3.bin]?
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21...
Loading c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 (via Ethernet1): ! [OK]

Erase flash device before writing? [confirm]y
Flash contains files. Are you sure you want to erase? [confirm]y

Copy 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' from server
  as 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' into Flash WITH erase? [yes/no]y
=notice below==shouldnot happen ===
%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ...

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]

%FLH: retry #1
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ... (retry)

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]

%FLH: Idling for 30 secs before retry #2



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Re: unable to upgrade image to 2514

2000-07-29 Thread groupstudy

Hi Aaron
  Thanks for your reply, but I did the same upgrade to my 2501,and it's
working .
  the tftp server  is connected through the ethernet port while it's not
accessible to tftp server due to the lose of configure after the reload
. Well i found this additional issue ,the router to which i am gonna
give a upgrade is now losing its NVRAM info every time it is reloaded or
power on/off, I think that's why the router is not accessible to the tftp
server anymore after the reload during the upgrade---because my 2514 can not
'remember' the startup-configuration !!  How am i gonna do now .

"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
On a 2500 you should see reload requested.  You can't put an image with the
router running unless it's in boot mode or you have your flash partitioned.
The 2500 runs from flash so it reloads the router in boot mode and tries to
copy the flash.  Across what medium does the router reach the tftp server?
Some things don't work well in boot mode depending on the version of your
boot rom's.  What version of boot rom's do you have?  Can you send a sh
version?

Try manually putting your router in boot mode. ie change config-reg to
0x2101 and rebooting the router.  Then ensure that you have connectivity to
your tftp server.  If you do then you can load a new image without the
reload.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
groupstudy
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Hi group
   I am unable to upgrade system software from 10.3 to 12.0(3)to my 2514
for
some reason ,please help.
system memory is :4M main and 8M flash:


2514#copy tftp flash
   NOTICE  
Flash load helper v1.0
This process will accept the copy options and then terminate
the current system image to use the ROM based image for the copy.
Routing functionality will not be available during that time.
If you are logged in via telnet, this connection will terminate.
Users with console access can see the results of the copy operation.
   
Proceed? [confirm]y

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Address or name of remote host [255.255.255.255]? 20.20.20.21
Source file name? c2500-is-l_120-3.bin
Destination file name [c2500-is-l_120-3.bin]?
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21...
Loading c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 (via Ethernet1): ! [OK]

Erase flash device before writing? [confirm]y
Flash contains files. Are you sure you want to erase? [confirm]y

Copy 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' from server
  as 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' into Flash WITH erase? [yes/no]y
=notice below==shouldnot happen ===
%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ...

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]

%FLH: retry #1
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ... (retry)

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]

%FLH: Idling for 30 secs before retry #2



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Re: 2500 flash and RAM

2000-07-29 Thread groupstudy

  Do you know how many pins are there for a 16M memory for cisco 2501/2514,
coz i was asked this question when in the computer shop .and for a 16M
configuration,according to cisco, it's possible to us proven vendor memory
like Samsun but can any one interpret what the following mean:
  Cisco specified:
16 MB (4 MB x 36, 70 ns DRAM SIMM)
 Hitachi  HB56D436SBR-7AGS
 Hyundai  HYM536410M-70
 Mitsubishi  MH4M36ANXJ-7
 NEC  MC-424000A36BE-70
 Samsung  KMM5364100A-70

above are the approved model of 16M memory ,
what doese 4 MB x 36 mean?


"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
I've always had excellent luck and found good prices at www.memoryx.com.  I
haven't checked their prices in a few months, but they should be worth
taking a look at.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Chuck Church
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 8:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2500 flash and RAM


Does anyone know of a good source for 2500 flash and RAM?  I'm looking for
something cheap for a home lab, so I don't really care if it voids the
Cisco
warranty.

Thanks,
Chuck Church
CCNP, MCNE, MCSE

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help on AUI status toggling

2000-07-28 Thread groupstudy

Hi Group
   My 2501 has a strange problem : the AUI is connected to a laptop computer
which has a 10/100 pcmcia adapter.
the ethernet port on 2501 is configured as follow :
 ip address 10.10.10.10 255.255.255.0
 no keepalive
 the laptop is configured as 10.10.10.11/255.255.255.0

the link light on the transceive and laptop are both up
and the 2501 can ping itself but not laptop,2501 is sending message like
this when debug ethernet  is on.
ANCE-5-LOSTCARR: Unit 0, lost carrier. Transceiver problem?
%LANCE-5-LOSTCARR: Unit 0, lost carrier. Transceiver problem?
 the IOS is 10.3 ,yes it's a little bit old ,but why the ethernet does not
work.
when i turn debug ip packet on ,the debug message is like this ---when ping
the laptop
  Router#ping 10.10.10.11
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.10.10.11, timeout is 2 seconds:

IP: s=10.10.10.10 (local), d=10.10.10.11 (Ethernet0), len 100, sending
%LANCE-5-LOSTCARR: Unit 0, lost carrier. Transceiver problem?
IP: s=10.10.10.10 (local), d=10.10.10.11 (Ethernet0), len 100, encapsulation
failed.
IP: s=10.10.10.10 (local), d=10.10.10.11 (Ethernet0), len 100, sending
IP: s=10.10.10.10 (local), d=10.10.10.11 (Ethernet0), len 100, encapsulation
failed.
  the default arp type on 2501 is ARPAI wonder what that has got to do
with the 'failed encapsulation' when pinging
  Do you think it is a hardware problem of the ethernet port on 2501 or
AUI??
  Thanks for your reply




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Sprint ION Service

2000-06-28 Thread Groupstudy



Has anyone looked into the SprintION service? 
I was wondering is it as good as they are saying it is?

http://www.sprintion.com


Adrianne Ward




ccie design results

2000-05-23 Thread groupstudy

Hi,

Does anyone know when the ccie design beta written results will be appearing
as I am away from home and will not be back until July

Thanks

Andy




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